Episode 115 - Adam of Farr + Swit : A Collector Starts his own Watch Company - Watch Fanatics

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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(00:27):
I was originally going to release this episode a little later. However,
I really wanted to get this out before April fifth
and April sixth, That is the weekend of The Minute
and Hour's Chicago, and at that show you'll have the
opportunity to meet in person Far and Switt. In this episode,

(00:49):
I do interview Adam, He's the man behind Far and Switt,
and hopefully you'll get an idea of what the brand
and the watches are before you go to the show.
If you're more interested in the technical details and the
models of watches that Far and Switt provide, check out
the last episode because in there I have a section

(01:10):
where we just talk about the specs and models of
Far and Switt. But with this interview, and I want
you to listen to all of it if you can,
we do go off topics sometimes, but it is always
circling and getting back to watches, So please listen to
the whole interview, but hopefully you're also going to get

(01:31):
to know who Adam is. And I've met him back
in the Toronto time Piece show and with this interview,
I got to get to know him even more. And
he's going to hate me for this, but I am
going to quote Rodney Mullen on a conversation he had
with Andy Anderson. Rodney Mullen being a skateboard legend, former

(01:53):
Bones Brigade and Andy Anderson, a Canadian skateboarder shutout Canada,
he said something that I think describes Adam, and this
will probably make him uncomfortable. You contribute so much, not
by just what you do, but by who you are.

(02:13):
And once you know who Adam is, this brand makes
even more sense. And he is an amazing person, not
just because of the passion he has for watches, creating
these cool watches, but his mission statement, the drive he
had to create this watch company, by the charities he
attaches himself to and one of his business philosophy, which

(02:37):
is killing them with kindness, and that makes more sense
when you listen to the interview. Enough of this monologue,
let's let Saint Chuck introduce us with his music to
Adam of Fair and Sweat. PS. If you don't know
who Saint Chuck is, ask Adam at minutes in our Chicago.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Hi, my name is Adam farand Hodge because that's kind
of pulls into our brand name, which looks like far
faar r and switt, And I tell people I call
it that all day long on the radio or on
verbal stuff because it's easier to visualize. But like every
really high end watch brand, it has its own unique pronunciation.

(03:33):
So we're officially fair end Switt. And my middle name
is Fairend, so that's where that comes from. I'm the
founder and now president of Fair and Switt watch company.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
I wanted you to clear the air with that because
I've heard far and Switt and fair and switch, and
I've heard it both from your mouth two different ways.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yes, well exactly exactly. So yeah. Usually, like if you're
listening to the podcast, I will call it far and
Sweat because I want you googling fa versus fai r.
I call it whatever. I'm never insulted by somebody calling
it far and Sweat, But if someone comes up to
me at a show and they're like, hey, Fair and Sweat.
I love this brand. I'm like, boom, you get bonus points, buddy,

(04:13):
you've done your homework.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Well. One thing I do know from this podcast is
watch fanatics are very particular to the details. I never
get comments until I screw up. That's the fan base here.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah, it's when I say a reference number wrong, or
if I say a brand name wrong. I think als
and Langhansongen. I said that wrong once and whoa, the
comments never ended. I gave a wrong Omega reference. Oh man,
it doesn't stop. Yeah, I will say fair and Sweat

(04:50):
because if I say far and Sweat, even though you
don't mind, I guarantee you listeners will attack me.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Oh hey, I get it with I call it homage.
Watch it I say it. I say the eight like
I think I have one video where just it's like
thirty percent of the comments are people correcting me, and
I'll just let them know. Hey man, I say the
the K and knife you know whatever, Well.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Maybe I will too, knowing that. Yeah, it gets that
type of reaction for the analytics exactly. Now, poor people
of the podcast, I just want to probably ask you
some questions that you've probably answered one hundred times. I've
seen you answer these on different interviews on YouTube. You

(05:37):
can find these videos on your website, which is a
fantastic website.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
You guys.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
You will learn so much about the company just by
clicking on Fair and Sweat. I highly recommend it. But
first question, and I asked this of a lot of people,
your first watch, you.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
May get a different answer here. So so my first
big watch is my Citizen pro Diver, and I'll loop
back to that. But I was just talking with an
interview with one of my business friends, Todd Fisher of
Saint James, London. He does like colognes and men's grooming
and shaving stuff. One of the videos we were talking
about watches and he had said something about a fifteen
year old son and I was like, oh, you know what.

(06:19):
I had actually remember going to a service merchandise store
and buying this field and stream loom dial on like
a velcro strap and I think it was like fifty bucks,
and it was like, you know, I went to the
store and I saw it and I bought it. And
prior to that, I may have owned a couple of cassios.
Of course, with the stop Watch stuff, because I remember those.

(06:40):
But my first, which I say the introduction, the one
that bit me and got me addicted to watch collecting,
was in nineteen ninety eight. I was on a cruise
with my family, stopped at the port of Saint Thomas.
And if you're ever on cruises, like, they've got tons
of watches everywhere, and these sports selling watches, great deals
and every thing. But I had walked by a jewelry

(07:02):
store and saw that Citizen pro Diver with that case
that looks like a scuba tank and it was a
full loom dial. And I tell people, I did the
like almost cartoon where you like, you walk by, you
look at it, and then you stop and you walk
almost backwards, you know, look at it in the window,
and it just grabbed me. It was two tone, so
like kind of gold plated with the steel, and it

(07:23):
was like three hundred and fifty bucks and I stretched
for me at eighteen and I bought it. And then
since then I started getting comments and kind of just
kept progressing so that you got my actual first watch
that I can remember buying, and my first addiction watch
which got me into watch collecting.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
I'm glad, I asked, because I that very first watch
and then went into the watch collecting journey. Did you
decide to start your own business?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
I always tell people like I have this history of
I call it being a creator, Like I've always from
as far back as I can remember, wanted to make
something and then sell it or give it away or
give it to people. So even in grade school, my
friend Sean Coleman and I we would wrap weird Al
Yankovic style over like vanilla ice. So we had a hit.

(08:20):
It was a big hit. Actually it was called Dork
Dork Baby, and we would record it and then we
would sell the tapes at recess for like two bucks
or something like that. And then in junior high, I
made my last name's Hodge, and I made this joke Hodgware,
which is kind of a parody of No Fear Gear
and Stucy. It was just a joke. People liked them,

(08:40):
and I started selling them in junior high. So I'm
selling shirts in junior highs. I would say I was
started collecting at eighteen, and it wasn't until I was
about maybe twenty eight twenty nine. I had this idea
for that seaplane model. I want a seaplane because it's
the pilot watch combined with the diver and I know
the specs I wanted to hit, and it just it. Basically,

(09:01):
it took me probably a couple of years from there
to actually get the idea to realize I could do this,
like and tell myself like, you can make this happen.
And then yeah, from there on out it was more conversations,
but I mean the idea happened early, and then I
would say probably like twenty fifteen twenty sixteen, I started

(09:21):
really pushing, being like this is going to be real,
and then got my two buddies involved, Andy who's the
and Andy Patesill who's the Jewlie designer. And then Zax
Swatowski basically pulled him in and was like, hey, guys,
let's come up with it with a watch here and
let's make a brand.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
It's funny when I do these interviews, I have a
list of questions and I never stick to the list
because after the two answers I've heard so far, I
have so many more questions.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
So yeah, that's a good interview. Then that's good for
good the questions there as a guide and then let's
just talk right.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, so you know what I think I was gonna
ask about some models, but if we don't get to them,
because there's so many more questions I want to ask you.
I I've done this before where I will talk about
your the watch lineup and the specs separately, and then
we'll segue into this interview. I think that's what I

(10:17):
wanted to do best, because there's just so much to unpack,
starting with your rapper name, your hip hop name. Yeah,
if I bought your cover of Ice Ice.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Baby, yeah yeah. So our name then was Double Trouble,
and we actually had like we do these two silly
voices and we'd have like a radio show and then
we'd like cut to this song. So it was like
we had these two skits, these two guys doing a skit,
and then they'd be like, here's another song from Double Trouble,

(10:51):
and then we'd come on and we did like I'm
trying to remember our other songs. I mean, they were
like really basic. It was like Roland and my tricy
I'm not old enough to ride a bicycle, you know,
it was really but it was it was fun and
like we would beat box. So my friend Sean would
be like and I would like wrap it while he

(11:15):
was doing that to give him a taste, and then
we'd be like, we can buy the cassette, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Oh god, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Playing tapes at recess is what it was.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Did you sell many tapes?

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Oh? Probably like three or four? Maybe maybe five, I
don't know, but that was back when you could buy
like you could buy like I remember a Screamer blank cassette.
It was a forty five lease, so it was like
twenty two and a half minutes on each side for
like fifty cents. You could buy a blank tape, draw
the cover, copy it, and make like a finished tape
for a dollar maybe.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
And I guess that's what behind the inspiration of your
retro digital mixtapes.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Oh yeah, I have a I have a love for
the cassette tape, and I even I've got a boombox
and I've bought new releases of like Beastie Boys. I
got Ill Communication on cassette. I actually just bought There's
an artist who does synth wave. His name is Sunglass Kid,
and he releases stuff in cassette tape. So I actually
just bought a cassetteape. I didn't realize he was selling them cassette.

(12:17):
So I bought that and I bring this little boombox
to the shows now and I have it kind of
sitting around with my retrodigital mixtape watches. But yeah, I
have a love for the cassette tape, even though you
know what, it's funny you got records right, Like vinyl
purists will have the argument like the guitars sound better.
It just sounds. It has a lot more going on
to it. You can pick up a lot of stuff right.

(12:39):
There is no benefit to a cassette tape. Like it
wears out, it can accidentally get recorded over, it can
get unwound, it has horrible sound quality. There is nothing
like performancely good about a cassette tape. But it's just
you know, growing up holding those, being able to toss
them around, top them in and out, you know, making

(13:02):
your own mixtapes. Something about it, even though it's not practical.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
I guess you said it. There's something about folding a
physical copy at a price point. I don't know if
you've heard this, but there's a new resurgence of cassette tapes,
partly led by the independent music scene like sunglass Kid,
but also driven by Taylor.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Swift I had heard she released one.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, so a lot of these kids they're spending or
the parents are spending thousands of dollars to get to
a concert, and then they don't have really an extra
fifty dollars in the budget for a concert shirt, but
they have that twenty dollars for the cassette tape that
she's releasing. Yeah, and part of the problem is the

(13:50):
vinyls can be printed fast enough. So she's releasing cassette
tapes and people are buying them. Thousands and thousands of
people are buying them. And as a reason, real kids
are now hopping onto eBay looking for Walkman's hopping onto Amazon.
There's these new types of cassette players now very affordable,

(14:10):
and they're buying them up.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
It's awesome.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, I think it's great. Because there's a documentary called
Analog Love, and you can find it online but on
to Be it's a free platform. You'll find Analog Love.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Okay, you'll love it.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Because Henry Rowlands is one of the people no Way
on this documentary talking about his love for the cassette tape.
And I got to say, I watched this documentary before
I saw your release of the retro digital, and when
I saw it, I had to have it. I knew

(14:47):
you were coming to Toronto. Went to Toronto try to
buy it. He told me to come back, We'll have plenty.
I came back sold out.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I still had it, just wasn't with me right.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
But that just shows me how the rest of the
world is still in love with these cassettes. By the way,
wearing the watch, I love it.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
It's awesome. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
The colors on the watch remind people of a department
store in Canada, a very famous department store called the
Hudson Bay. Okay, so when I wear it out, and
I wear it out specifically because of the reaction I get.
Now half the people say, is that from Hudson Bay.
The other half is what the hell is that? A

(15:36):
cassette tape watching wrists? And I love it. It's now
a watch I'd probably wear seventy percent of the time,
just because of the conversation it starts.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
You know, Oh, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, and you did that, You did that? You know that?
That's all you?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Thanks geez, that's huge.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Isn't that crazy? I know you you wanted. Part of
the reason for starting barn Switt was to get other
people interested in watches and getting people the casual watch
people at a price point back into watches away from
the cassio. The classic casio, I think is the retro digital.

(16:20):
It's funny. I was with the two other co hosts
of the show last week and awore this. You know,
they're showing off their role like submriners and I'm like, hey,
check this out and they're like, what the hell And
we're taking our pictures. We're taking our pictures and the
server comes up and it's my watch, your watch that

(16:43):
is getting the attention. Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 2 (16:47):
It is? It is. It's funny to me too, because
like we started as the yeah as the specs like
hit the specs get everything that's like the Swiss made movements,
all the stuff that you know, it is great for
a watch. And the launch of this digital has showed
me like to get people in, you just got to
make something fun that connects with them. And I want

(17:10):
to make it affordable where you see it and you go, yeah,
why not, what the heck? And it starts a conversation.
And it is funny because when I first made it,
I was like, you know it looks like a sette.
I'm happy with it, but are people going to see
it on your wrist and recognize what it's supposed to be.
But it's proven to be like an eye catcher, which
was a surprise to me because I didn't know if

(17:31):
it was going to translate visually from you know, like
six feet away even but it has and it's it's
been a blast.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
It definitely has. And what would you say is your
favorite hip hop artists?

Speaker 2 (17:47):
It's the Beastie Boys hands down, all right, those guys,
those yeah, they you know, it's because it had such
a longevity when you with the exception of like you
two right, Like that was another one that I remember
linking in great school. But you know, like the you
like the Beastie Boys in my grade school and then
they kept with me and I'm in college or high
school and I you know, I'm going to see the

(18:08):
concert and it was my first concert ever. Was my
friend's dad, his name is Michael Rubis. His dad took
us to a concert because we were head to have
a chaperone. We were like fourteen years old, so he
took us to see the Beastie Boys for the Ill
Communication Tour. And it was my first official concert with

(18:28):
the ticket you know from ticket Master and buy the
concert t shirt. And yeah, so I just love everything
about them. I think their goofy attitude, their genre crossover
where they can play jazz music, you know, to like
alternative stuff to straight up hip hop. Just is they're
my favorite hip hop artists of all time.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Hey man, I agree totally. I remember first hearing and
falling in love with these boys at a younger age too.
You got a fight for your rights party is, oh yeah,
something that when I'm with my junior high friends we
have to play.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, incredible musicians.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Knowing that you're part of hip hop and hip hop culture.
And this being a watch podcast, What do you think
about watches in the hip hop world? We have like
the bling out ice?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah yeah, are you a fan?

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Not a fan?

Speaker 2 (19:29):
I don't know. I mean, like so most hip hopers,
I mean they think about it. It was you know,
throw your roller side to side and keep your hands high.
You know. It's why it was integrated into hip hop
is because it's a status symbol. I mean, that's why
they pop crystal. That's like what they rap about when
they rap about popping crystal. And wearing Rolexes. It's not
because of their love for watchmaking. For the most part,
it's because of their want to flaunt the status. So yeah,

(19:53):
I mean a lot of the bling, it's it's not
my thing. I like unique pieces. I think it's kind
of cool when you get like you know, hip hop
art who are interested into watches and get deep into
kind of like collecting the grail for them, that's cool, funny,
Like I say, it's hand in hand, but it's not
necessarily because the love of watches. It's the love of status,
you know. That's why you bling, That's why you flex, right,

(20:15):
That's why you have it on. But I like when
they wear something that goes with their style. So even
if they're rocking a crazy uh you know, Richard Meil
and I may be saying that one wrong, and they
wear it with something unique, then you know that they
at least have style in mind and they want to
kind of pull it into to their overall persona. So
it's hit or miss with me. Certain guys, you know

(20:36):
when they you know, when you wear a really horrible
you blow. I mean, I don't hate on Hugh Blow
all the time. They had one of the coolest watches
I'd ever seen. A long time back, I had walked
in Vegas and walked by and it was a strange gray,
like like a very weird material gray, and I was like,
what is this? And it turned out to be pressed magnesium,

(20:58):
and magnesium is like something you can explode. But they
made a magnesium It's called the mag Bang. It's like
the Big Bang, but made with magnesium. And if you
think about that, that's one of the craziest things ever.
I don't hate on you Blow, but they make a
lot of eye.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Sores they do, again, very polarizing as a company. You
either love you Blow or you don't. But again, that's
what makes collecting so much fun.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Yes, one thing I will say that was almost a
laughable offense in my opinions. Are you a fan of
graffiti art at all, like bank Ce and all that
kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yes, okay, I'm always amazed. I'm blown away. I'm not
a connoisseur. I wouldn't know specific artists, but every time
I do see graffiti art, blown away.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Okay. A good documentary watch is called Exit through the
Gift Shop. It's about Banksy and it has this whole
story of this guy called mister brainwash. In the end,
you basically realize, like after you've watched a movie and
you've done some digging around online, you're like, mister brainwash fake,
Like it's Banksy made him up to sell ridiculous art

(22:05):
to people. And then you blow goos and does a
collaboration with mister brainwash, I mean, mister brainwashed. Still it's
like collaborations, And I'm like, this guy's a joke. I
mean it's it's like a Banksy insult to you. But
you still like you didn't get the joke and you
grabbed onto it. So that was one thing I was
found funny. And I remember affording to my buddy is like, look,
what are they doing. You'll understand. You'll understand better when

(22:28):
you watch Exit through the Gift Shop.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
I will. I love docs. I will watch it, and uh,
that's hilarious. They pulled a fast one on everyone.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
I guess, yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Now collaborations. I know you have a collaboration with John
if I'm saying it correctly, John Sarasani.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yes, So the John Sarahsani one is live. That watch
is live. He's just the great dude, very entertaining. He
lives near me. We had synced up and we have
similar personalities, so I did a special. Basically, I took
our seaplane and we used his two thousand percent raise
color on the second's hand and those ones I sold.

(23:11):
The first batch we made like right away, so I've
got the second half coming in and they only made
twenty of them. That's one that just launched live.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Yeah, and that second hands is that real gold? Like,
what's going on?

Speaker 2 (23:22):
No, No, it's just it's just an ore. It's an
ochre color. It's just an okre color that matches his
whole two thousand percent raise persona, oh brand and everything.
He's an entrepreneur who broke off and made his own thing.
He's trying to get people to get into their like, hey,
if you see an opportunity, you know, take the jump,
go start your own thing. So he really helps promote

(23:42):
small business, starting a small business, toughing it out, grinding
it out. And then of course he's been successful, so
he's got a bunch of money and he likes to gamble,
so he's pretty good at blackjack, so he always goes
to high limit tables. Dove's live streams and he gambles
like high amounts of money with big wins big losses,
but his win percentages is quite quite high.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
I'm going to look into him a little more. I
work with a nonprofit for two years, same as John Sarasani.
Their audience was to help the socially economically challenged start
their own business, start their own projects. Yeah, so that's fascinating.
Now starting your brand, starting your company, what would you

(24:28):
say to those entrepreneur hopefuls? What would you say is
the best thing to do? How do you conquer those
demons and start your own company?

Speaker 2 (24:38):
I eased into it. So I had a day job
where I have manufacturers rep company, worked with chemical companies
and did stuff with industrial So I had that going
from almost all the time up until I will say
last year. I eased in, got it moving along, was comfortable,
and then finally was like, Okay, it's time to jump
in the water. You know, really go for this. If

(25:00):
you can do that, it's a nice way to test
it out, see if it works, test things out, because
your first one, I mean, don't expect to hit. That's
and I try not to be negative, but I try
to be real with people, like you know, don't bank
on getting that one video to go viral. Don't bank
on getting your watch on one person's wrist and having
it suddenly be a huge success. Like that's really rare.

(25:21):
That's like the lottery. You're gonna have to go in.
You're gonna have to meet people, You're gonna have to
grind it out. And I think personally, like the stuff
that goes the longest distance is the interaction with people.
Like you interaction with people. It shows having good customer support.
You know, where people you know submit something like hey,
something's not working or hey I broke my watch, can
you help me fix it? And going above and beyond

(25:43):
to help them with that. From my point of view,
like being a person being personable and committing yourself to
the company and letting people know like, look, I want
people to enjoy no matter what, even if they return something.
I want to make sure you make everybody and you
can't make everybody happy, but you know your real customers
do the best you can for them, and even the
haters kill them with kindness. That's like a thing that's

(26:06):
worked very well for me. I tell people, like when
you go run the race, Let's say you go run
a marathon or something like, you're gonna be feeling good
halfway through. You're gonna be feeling you know, I can
do this. This is good, And that's like, that's the
easy part, right, it's fun. There's lots of excitement that's
bounce in, but those last few miles it starts to
thin out. You're feeling the pain. And it's really in

(26:28):
terms of business getting something over those last few inches,
I tell people, is the hardest part. And you're gonna
hit wall after wall problems, issues like when I was
developing our first model, if there's always something we'd be like,
oh my god, this isn't gonna work, or oh wow,
that financial commitment is gonna be huge. You know, you
hit wall after wall and it's you got to break

(26:49):
through so you can do it. I tell people, you
can't do it, and you have to believe in yourself
to do it, and you have to say I'm not
going to give up. I'd say, it's just grit, and
it's just it's persistent, basically, is what it is. Because
there's so many times and I don't mean to ramble
on here, David, but there's so.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Many times, Oh this is great stuff.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Like when you're doing something anything related business or even
sometimes related with life, where it's like so many chances
to give up. There's so many reasons to be like, oh,
you know what, I got to cut my losses here.
This isn't the right idea, and there is times to
cut your losses. I mean, I play poker. You gotta
know when to fold, right. But if this is what
you want, fine fold that hand and come back for

(27:29):
the next one and plan your next target, your next
hand way more strategically and be ready to pounce on
it and be ready to go. So it's basically not
giving up, going for it, and you got to push
and haters, let the haters hate. I love it.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
That's great advice. Killing haters with kindness. I love it.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Oh. I mean, like most of the times when someone
makes a remark on like your social media, like this vest.
Someone was like, what I'm supposed to take information from
a dude wearing a vest like that? And I like
ping them back. I was like this fastest killer man
and he's like, haha, you're right. So it's like, you know,
just goof row. These guys most times are just everyone
wants to have a funny comment get liked, so they
throw out funny comments even if they're mean, and if

(28:12):
you bring them ping them back, like what are you
talking about, dude, put it back on the level playing
field with each other. Yeah. I like that.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Great advice. So listeners out there, John Sarasani, Baron Switt,
you said the first twenty are sold out.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
No, no, we only make it twenty. I already sold.
We already sold ten of them, so we got ten
more of than just getting painted.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Right now, Okay, get on it, guys. The secondhand pops
I love it. I thought was gold. That's how well
popped at least. I was like, what two thousand rays?
It must be gold? Like, what's going on here? It's
gonna be.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Good idea though. I like that. I like that, use
the actual gold material. I like that. Yeah, I'm gonna
bring that up because we've got some other stuff coming.
Maybe that's the next generation. I like that.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Ten left, ten left, folks, buy it, buy it. I
just went to the Detroit AULI Show, and I am
going to the Canadian International Auto Show. I was going
to ask about the Mecca Coarts. I know you're doing
something with the Chicago Auto Club West, so.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Just to I know people hate on me by this,
so it's not officially Mecca Courts. It's got the set
five ticks per second, so it's not a mechanical inside.
It's still solar powered. And I tried it because I
don't know if it shouldn't be on the site. I
tried to make sure it wasn't on the site. I
know a lot of people referred to because it looks
just like the Mecha courts the VK movements. So it's
just a solar power with a quick high beat hand

(29:38):
for the for the Stopwatch. Sorry to deviate there, but
so Chicago Chicago Auto Club West again another great organization.
And the guy who runs it Dean calac Manus. I
hope I said his last name right, Dean. Awesome guy.
He's another one who's a small business pusher. He really
wants to help small businesses. And the way the club

(29:59):
had an actually began, it was during coronavirus. Right, everyone
was kind of we're locked in all these restaurants are,
you know, just hanging on, just trying to survive. So
what they would do is they'd have a club. They
get the club together and they'd be like we're going
to go meet it. You know Antony's pizza, go do.
We're going to do parking the parking lot and the

(30:19):
goal is you're it goes to be there to buy pizza.
That's your That's our jobs as the auto club is
to all show up and support the business. So that's
how it all got started, is they do tours. But
the idea was you go to that local business and
you buy the coffee. Like you don't show up to
coffee and cars with coffee. You show up and you
buy coffee. So it's the whole plan was the car

(30:40):
show is there to support the local business. So when
I saw that, I rang them up and it was
just when we were like finally getting everyone can take
their masks off and go eat lunch and everything. Met
him in person and I was like, hey, I look
for a little opportunities where I can sponsor at low
cost because I don't have tons and tons of ad
budget money. So I was like, I'd love to do

(31:01):
a sponsorship with you guys somehow are set up you know,
booth at your shows, and it just our relationship kept
going and yeah, it's been something I partner with every year.
Dean has all my watches. He loves the brand, like
we support symbiotically, you know, with each other. And we've
got a great relationship and the club is awesome, and
we have a show every year which is so cool.

(31:24):
It's called the Supercar Sunday. And thankfully in our area
we've got you know, the Hamilton Collections in Naperville. I
don't know if you're familiar with him, but we've got
local guys in Chicago. Motor Cars is in the area
and a sponsor. So when we have when and I
say we when when Dean and his team and Jay
and everybody host these car shows, like it's the big

(31:45):
car shows. You'll see Bugatti's, you'll see rare Lamborghinis you've
never seen before, Ferrari f forty's. I mean stuff that
you'd never really see, that you don't even see sometimes
like auto shows even sometimes would all be in the show,
like and you can, you know, touch it and take
pictures in front of it and see the guy driving it.

(32:06):
So it's it's a really cool thing. And a lot
of the people are you know, they're not like snobs.
They want to share their cars with people, Whereas you know,
some car shows you go to with the guys like
got his cloth and if you touch the car, he
wipes it off and he yells at you like this
is more like it's come check out our stuff. Check
We're all here to have fun, you know, and everybody

(32:28):
come in and like all the kids with their video,
you know, equipment and all that catching stuff. It's it's
been a really cool relationship.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
I love that. Hey, seeing you guys like take care
of each other that way. I'm a strong believer that
charity begins at home. Hey, that speaks volumes man. On
your website, you also give back to other local charities.
Do you want to explain how those began?

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Something my dad has always told me is you know,
you've got to give back, you know, regardless of where
you are, you have to help support your community and charities.
And CICW the Chicagoto Club West, they're awesome with kitties,
warriors and everything has like a donation of some type,
you know, with what they support. So I work directly

(33:17):
with like Northern Onined Food Bank ECAF, which is a
local Elmhurst fund where they help take care of families
who have kids with cancer and that kind of stuff,
and they help support people who need to help. But
going back to having it instilled in me that we
have to get back. When we started the company, we
were not profitable at all, and we still said we're

(33:39):
going to give percentages of our earnings to charities. Like
I think when we first started making clothing, it was
basically any profit that was made from the clothing, we're
going to give to Northern Illinois Food Bank. Wow. Yeah,
So now we've turned it out more to percentages. So
at the end of the year, I write checks and
I do stuff with Cubs Charities, which whenever we sell

(34:00):
one of our cubs watches, they get twenty five dollars
for each watch. I just I got to write them
a check at the end of every year, basically to
cover what's been sold. But it's something that I just said.
You know, you have to commit that money. And if
you do it from the start, then you're used to it, right.
It's harder when you have a bottom line and you're
profitable and you're like, oh, now we got to take

(34:20):
a few points off of its top to give the charity.
Oh that's tough, you know. No, it's start from beginning
and it's just rolled into the business plan.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
Oh wow, so much to unpack there. Yeah. I say
that because I'm very impressed inspired inspired, not impressed inspired. Actually,
that's crazy, Adam, this is cool saying that you talked
about the Cubs watch. Is that the wriggly Field that
north Yes.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, so it's the Wayfinder north Side Edition. So what
we did was we basically took the map of Wrigleyville
and that you'll see wriggly Field kind of right above
the center of the dial. It's similar to our way
find her loom dial. It's the Wayfinder north Side Edition.
And even Cubs fans will or non Cubs fans or
non Chicago people will buy that watch because they love
the streetscape. It just looks so cool. And what we

(35:12):
had done with all of with the Wayfinder in the
north Side edition is we take a full loom dial
and then we gently print like a gray either our
topographic map or the street escape. When it lights up
in the dark, it's so contrasting that it's almost like
a hidden image, like it really accentuates the image. It
really cool thing, a really fun thing.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
I love it. I actually at first thought it was
a meteor dial.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Ah. I had bumped into David Ross, who was the
manager of the Cubs at the time, at a charity event,
and I brought business cards with me just in case,
but I was like, you know what, I'm gonna go
talk to him. No one's bothering him, and I'm gonna
talk to him about something not related to baseball, which
I'm sure he's been hearing all day. So I just
come and I'm like, Hey, what watch you're wearing? And

(35:59):
he's got his pan on and I'm like, oh, that's awesome.
I love that model. So we just start bouncing back
and forth on watches and he tells me something I
had not been aware, so I know he had an
IWC that Jake Arietta had bought him when they pitched
a no hitter, So both him and Jake Arietta have
a matching IWC to celebrate. I think they've been graved
in the back the no hitter that Jake aria pitched.

(36:21):
So he and then told me about a U blow
that they were able to buy as winners for Boston,
and I had never seen it before, so he was like,
oh yeah, He's like it was made for us, and
then we were able to go buy this watch he's
like it's crazy. He's like it was expensive, but like
he's like, I bought one and it is so cool.
So then I like did some digging later on to
see a watch I had never seen before, and in

(36:43):
it I had I was wearing my regular Weightfinder and
I had not released my north Side yet, and I
just told him, Hey, I don't want to like speak
to sales here. I was like, but I'm I'm coming
up with a watch that has the map of Wrigleyville
on it. I'd be honored to just, you know, send
you one, no strings attached. And he's like, yeah, dude, yeah,
let me know. So I gave him my business card
and he started following me on Instagram and then it

(37:05):
came out and I just sent it to him and
he's like, dude, that's nice. He's like, send it to
Wrigley Field, address it to me, and I sent it
to him. And then like a week or so later,
he like sends me an image of him in the
locker room, and I'm like at soccer practice with my
daughter and my dad called me. He's like, I think
David Ross is wearing your watch. He's showing it off
to a guy like they actually a video of him

(37:27):
like looking at the watch and the guy next to
him is talking to him. He's like, yeah, check it out, dude,
and he's like, whoa. So that's like, you know, and
then he was he was a real nice guy. I
mean he you know, I just gifted him the watch
and he would wear it game times and he'd sit
every Friday they talk and he'd sit like this, or
he'd sit like this at the press conference. I was
sad to see him going, not only because he had

(37:48):
to watch, but more so because I like him as
a as a person and as a manager. Yeah, it
was great to have it on his wrist. That's nuts that,
you know, and tell you tell me about it. It was surreal.
I'd be in a Cubs game and I'd be watching
him on the screen and I'd be like, I'm wearing
the same watch as the manager. And other guys were,
you know, catching on to that. So when other Cubs
fans who had to watch, they'd be like, wearing the
same watch as the manager. You know.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
It was really cool.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
So the head trainer has one, and a couple of
his other guys have them as well. That are so
there are still Cubs guys in the dugout wearing the
Wavefinder North Side Edition.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Now hopefully many more people after this.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, it's such a cool watch and it's an incredible loom,
incredible loom.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
I actually I remember in Toronto in your watch booth
gathered many times a large crowd. It was like two
or three people thick. Especially when I was trying to
buy the mixtape Volume one.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
I think I remember, because yeah, you were like you
came and you're like, You're like, I'll be back, and
like I didn't see you that day. I think, right,
you came back the next day.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah, yeah, you know, there's gonna be plenty. Don't worry,
don't worry. Like, but I was talking to your father
at that point. I wanted to talk to you, but
it was honestly three people deep to get to your table.
When I was talking to your father, he picked up
the last box of mix tape and he goes, let

(39:17):
me see if we still have one, and then he
pulled out one with the box, and he had one
without the box, and right away, I guess it's now
four people deep. Two people grabbed the box out of
your father's hand and said, I'll buy that, I'm like,
you're kidding me, You're kidding me. But while this was happening,

(39:38):
you were actually talking to someone about Loom. It was
another person. I think they were interested in starting their
own company, their own brand, and you were talking about
the Loom. I didn't eavesdrop because I was too busy
trying to get a digital watch. But what was that process,

(39:59):
Like why this limb, why these colors?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
So I'll tie it all the way back to my
like first watches, right, So my first two watches that
I mentioned my field is Dream full Loom Dial, my
Citizen pro Diver full Loom Dial. There's just something about
having it like glow in the dark. Maybe it's a
nerdy kid thing. I don't know, but it's I love
the glow in the dark, the fact that glows in

(40:23):
the dark. So we did the Seaplane first watch out there,
and we used BGW nine grade A, which as high
as you can get, and because we really wanted to
have the thing glow all night, and it's perfect for that.
It'll glow and it'll it'll jump off your wrist when
you walk inside of a movie theater or something. But
when we did the Wavefinder, when we were designing it.

(40:44):
We were actually doing it off of a black and
blue dial and I hit invert and you know, just
in photoshop, and it went white and I was like,
holy cow, I can do a loom dial. So I
was like, this is perfect. And we had an artist
named Alex asked for who did the topography for us
topography design, which is that's our design. That's basically if
you see it in our logo and everything. So we

(41:06):
wanted a bluish look for the actual base and so
that best loom out there is C three. C three
green has a great bright green glow, which is a
normalst C three, but there's also a C three blue,
so we went with C three blue and we got
the grade X one, which is the highest grade you
can get. Then we put C three green on the
markers so then it had a little bit of a contrast,

(41:28):
and then we use dark orange on the ring. So
basically every paint that's on there is one hundred percent
you know, the powder mixed as paint. It's basically all loom.
And then on the outside ring is BGW nine, which
is a white daytime blue glow. That watch when it launched,
it was winning Loom contests on YouTube left and Right,

(41:49):
getting disqualified before the contest even started. But I love
that watch and it's something that like when you sell
the people sometimes they haven't seen it glow quite yet,
and then when they get home and they have like
a sunny day hit it and they go inside, they're like,
oh my gosh, it's like a flashlight. Yes, it's a blast.
It's a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
You see all over Instagram, you see it on your
website as well with the Loom, but seeing it in
person when you flash that light on it, wow, it
is a different it's a different beast all together. When
you were designing this watch, picking the Loom, picking the colors,
did your partners say, hey, Adam, this is like no,

(42:29):
don't do it.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
So, like Andy's even told me before, he's like, you
know what, man, Sometimes I'll throw in my opinion, like
like maybe the mixtape it's you know, not going to
fit in with our genre, or the you know, Vice
edition it's kind of out there. He's like, I throw
in my opinion, but he's thinking, but you know it,
so he's like, you got to go with your gut.
So both of those guys are great and yeah, with

(42:51):
the wavefinder, we were like, we're trying to keep this
as an entry level piece. We spent all this money
on loom, Like, I'm not a huge fan of the
ticking set, but then we found that sweeping quartz from
Sako that was an automatic snob at that point, and
I was like, oh my god, I love this. It
feels like an automatic, but it's a quartz and I

(43:12):
can put it down. I mean like David Ross and
the Cubs guys, all the trainers, they put it in
their locker and they leave for road games and then
they come back and it's running again. They just put
it on, you know what I mean. So it had
like the timekeeping and the fact that you don't need
to put it on a winder, and then of course
it was able to keep our costs to a point
where we could get this sub four hundred. But the

(43:33):
loom is just like, go for it, and you have
choices when you're making looms. You can be like, what
if we scale back from X one and just go
standard grade. You can save money. But it doesn't glow
as much like I want it to be. O'bscene like
the glow to the point where you're like, whoa, we
need to tell this down. Like my son and I

(43:54):
tell this story and it's real. I read them a book,
so I have a flashlights. I put the flashlight on.
We're done reading, I put the flashlight on watch just
for a little bit, turn it off, and then it's
glowing like crazy, I mean like and he's trying to
go to sleep, and he actually said, Dan, turn off
your watch. It's too bright. I can't sleep. And I
was like, I'm using this, Max. I'm gonna tell everybody
that you said that, because it's awesome.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
If you are a fan of Loom. The wayfinder is
a musk, put that in your cart. It is a musk.
And the details too, of the Loom. When you say
I've seen I want people to understand it's not just
in your face, but there's details, like in the lines
of the topography, like.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah, it really shows up. It's so cool.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Oh my god, is beautiful. I never seen Loom like that.
I think the application, especially with topography like putting in
maps and stuff. Oh man, that's such a creative idea.
I think other industries can borrow from you, you know absolutely.
I'm just trying to think, like when I when I'm hiking,

(45:01):
when I'm camping, when I'm portaging, like to have extra
loom everywhere. That would be fantastic, especially on these maps,
like when you go to these outposts and they give
you these crappy paper maps and they just literally fall
apart soon as it rains, they fall apart, but you're
there with your flashlight at night, like, man, if they
use loom, I think you know, less people would get lost,

(45:27):
less people would get frustrated, that's for sure. And then
went throughout the map, I'd keep it. I would absolutely
keep it. It'd be a great keepsake. And staying on
that topic, define your time your tagline. Also, I read
on your website you said something about we measure time
not by the hands on our watch, but the moments

(45:48):
you make those two things like how deeply is that
a part of the fair and swit philosophy, but also
your own your own self, your philosophy, and maybe a
message you want to give to other people out there.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
I'm glad you brought that up. So if you're out
of the watch world, right, like non watch collectors they're like, oh,
it's just a piece of jewelry. Oh it's useless, you know,
you know, I don't need the status symbol. And I
try to always, you know, convert people be like, look,
the thing with a watch is it's like a memento.
So when you're wearing these watches, like you do something right,

(46:31):
like you you graduate, you get it as a gift,
or you know, you accomplish a big hike to the summit,
or or you know something fun happens while you're doing it,
or a trip. Those all, Like I tell people, it's
like a magnet to the watch, Like it has its memories,
a pand me down piece for my grandpa, you know
what I mean, Like that has its memories to it.

(46:51):
So they all have their mementos. They mean something and
that's what really makes a watch. So when people buy
our watches, I wanted to be like, oh man, I
remember falling in love with this at the Toronto time
Piece show, right, and I got this watch and then
it reminded me, you know, back of the mixtapes I
used to make. So then when you look at your watch,
you're not just like checking the time. You look it

(47:13):
back and you're like, oh, like it'll spark a memory
of something fun. So I tell people it's like a
memory magnet and that's what define your time is. It's
like use your time, do fun stuff with it. It
all ties into the whole idea of you know, I
don't want to hit on smart watches too much, but
the distraction of a smart watch, distraction of a cell phone,
like the group that says I don't need to watch

(47:35):
I can check it on my phone. I always give
the example of you know, if you're talking to someone
at lunch and you check the time on your phone, right,
you pull it out. Suddenly you see you missed the
text message. You boom, you hit it. Now you're reading
the text message. You're scrolling through like you're sucked in
and you've just taken away face to face time with
someone that you shouldn't be and it's just a distraction.
The whole thing like sucks you in. But you got

(47:57):
to watch a regular watch. You check the time. It's
not that much of an insult, you know, to you
we're checking the time, and sometimes you're even talking about
the piece, like watch collectors. It's great when you run
into people, like you said, the waitress or the server
commenting on your watch, to have someone bring up something
that you're wary, you can even tell the story between
It's such a great connection. Like time pieces in general

(48:18):
are just so more than timekeepers and decorations and accessories
and jewelry. They really have a deeper meeting and they
have such a longevity in their life. You can have
them forever, you know what I mean. That's what the
whole define your time, and time isn't just the hands
on the watch. It's everything we're doing while we're wearing
the watch. And that's what I want to be a
part of.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
One of the things that we constantly have to do
is defend our hobby, defend our passion. And this is
another bullet point, another argument for us. So thank you
and people kill them with love. Yes, this tagline, and

(48:58):
it is a memory because I never wear this watch,
I am going to think of Adam blowing me off
at the time piece show. You gotta be.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Quicker, you gotta grab the box. You know, when someone
says there's gonna be plenty left, that's when you say,
you know what, I don't want to take the chance.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
And that sound advice. Definitely a hell of a story.
I am going to be hopping online probably after my
taxes to get Side B again. Those are great bullet
points for people defending their watch against the smart watch.
You know what, when I buy B side, we will
have to get in touch because I want to explore
so much more because there's like the apparel, like selling

(49:41):
shirts and sunglasses. I want to know more about that.
I want to hear more about how the music influenced
these designs, like punk that's crazy. That's awesome, man, I
will ask one thing you did mention in the email.
You have other things down the road that you're I
guess GONN releasing or some projects that you might be

(50:02):
jumping into. Can you elaborate on that?

Speaker 2 (50:05):
So I've got multiple ideas. I've got to figure out
which ones to execute on first. I've actually got a surfer.
His name is Heraldo and he does big wave surfing
out in like Naseare, Portugal. So he's been a great
brand ambassador for us, and we've been trying to get
a watch out specifically for surfing and kind of like
his watch, and we were going to do a tide
hand on it that would give you your local tide.

(50:28):
We may pivot him more too, because I'm gonna I
think I'm gonna do like a thousand foot like a
three hundred meters diver, and I could give it a
steel brace that we shrink it down to a forty.
He likes the loom dial, so we're gonna try and
do a loom dial and maybe make it naseare specific.
With the topography of the water in Portugal. There's this
big wave location and the reason it has such huge

(50:50):
waves is there's like a canyon underneath the water right
in the ocean. There's this huge canyon and when the
water comes in, it creates this formation of like humongous,
humongous waves. If you're on Instagram, look up nazarec Monsters.
That's a guy who does video footage. It's insane. I mean,
like some of these stuff you tow them out there

(51:10):
on a jet ski and then these guys just go
and it's like insane waves. But yeah, so we've got
a surf watch we're gonna bring out. We're gonna do
something with a forged carbon fiber dial, which is kind
of gonna have that fun meteorite look to it. And
I've got some fun colors we're gonna put onto that.
So yeah, I got to decide which diver model we're

(51:31):
gonna do, and I've got this really funky idea. I
can't even get into it until I make sure it's
gonna happen. And then right now I'm working on the
new mixtapes. The Volume two's the Volume two is gonna
have some unique colors in there and may change the
cassette tape visual a little bit, and then the colors
are gonna be a little more funky because people keep

(51:52):
asking like, where's the radical neons? So I'm like, all right,
we'll get some neons out there. Nice.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Yeah. I realized that the digital has been such a
well embraced product and I have so much fun with it,
and you know, it gets people interested in us, and
it's such an easy one and kids are wearing it.
I just that's that's something we're gonna keep really going
hard on because I love it.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
I'm glad. I'm gonna be a fan. I'll probably be
buying every digital that you put out. I swear, you know,
as a collector. I definitely hit my snob phase where
it was automatic only, and then I started getting back
to what I loved, which where the quartz is. I mean,
a few courts would pop in and some solos would

(52:33):
pop in. I'd always keep my eye on the uh automatics.
But one year time X put out a pac Man watch,
the Thad Timex the Digital Yeah, and they kept on
putting out reissues of different THAD digital watch themes, like
one for Coca Cola, one for Space Invaders. And what

(52:55):
I found with digital watches, it's the ease put them on.
You don't have to wind, just go, and they are
usually smaller. So my wife wears them too, So now
she just grabs any of the t eighties, any digital watch.
She's grabbed this cassette watch once. I won't let her
because it's aha, it's a it's a clear bet. I

(53:19):
just don't want it to get dirty. But yeah, I
am going to be buying all your digital watches for sure.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Oh it's so good to hear it. Oh, I didn't
mention it. I got a new vice coming. I have
a new vice that I've been very very quiet on.
So we had the limited edition, which I dipped my
foot in the water to test and thanks to random
Rob for helping push me over the line on that one.
That was the one that had the greenish teal kind
of color. And then we sold out that in a
couple of days, got the bubble gum, sold out of

(53:48):
our batch of bubble gums, got a second badge of
bubble gums. Are almost through with that. Oh no, And
then yeah, and so now I've got I know, and
then so now I've got this new one, which I've
given you a couple people to check. And I'm pumped
about it because it's got neon blues. So I'm like,
really really excited for it. It's called the Electric Blue.
It'll be coming out. We're gonna basically launch it last

(54:10):
week of February before we do the Intersect show in Charlotte,
and then we'll have it available for people who want
to buy it there, and then people can pre order
to get it the next week. I got them in stock.
I have them all, they're ready to go. I've just
been like, oh my gosh, I just can't wait to
release it. It's gonna be so fun. Oh man.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Okay, listeners, you're new to the brand, the Vice Edition,
the Bubblegum Edition, It's got this nostalgic feel. You're gonna
love it. It's gonna remind you of a certain I
don't know, can we can we say that is there.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Like you can say it. I don't call it the tron.
I know people wanted me to call it the Tron.
I was like, I will never print tron and my
watch next to each other because Mickey Mouse will come
after me. But yeah, my inspiration really was like I
remember having like a Lamborghini Kontajh poster and this was
kind of a backdrop. You know, it's just a synth
wave grid with the sun. Nobody makes that stuff, Like,

(55:06):
I haven't seen anybody do anything like that. No, at
least we. I mean like there's been a couple of
copycats out there, but nobody did it before us. I'll
say that, and does it as good as us. And
then it's had the solar power, which is like it's
just a care free watch.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
I love it and again true to the nature of
the time Wartz was king back then.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
That's true, that's right.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Yeah, yeah, anyways, people check it out. It's crazy. It's
a cool, cool, cool watch. I actually saw at Toronto.
I can't remember was the bubblegum I might have held
in my hand. It was like cool. I think everyone
will really like what you did with the colors with
the strap as well as a dial.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
It's just gonna it jumps out. It's awesome.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
I'm looking forward to this electric Neon blue like an
electric Dragon.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
That's good though, that right there, right.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great. Lots of watches in the pipeline,
so we got to surf something along the lines of
the Vice Edition another digital John Sarasani. Another batch of
those coming out right.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Yeah, just the second half the batch because we creately
keep it small. Yeah. But I like your idea, the gold,
the real gold. I like that idea. I'm gonna I'm
gonna next to my talk to like, what if we make,
you know, another limited run for one of our upcoming
editions and make it have real gold. I like that.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Hey man, thank you. I know it must be really
hard with three kids running your company, So thank you
for sitting down and thank you. He gave us some
great bullet points so now we can defend our passion
a little bit better. Thank you. Thank you for making
me popular with waitresses. I like your Retromixedtate Volume one.

(56:59):
I love it, Honest to god, it steals in the spotlight.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
Thank you, David. I appreciate the support. I'm always happy
to be honest. It's great to just chat. You know
the kind words. You're too kind sometimes.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Thank you

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