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Speaker 5 (07:03):
Oh this is great.

Speaker 11 (07:13):
Where's Rob? I'm here?

Speaker 5 (07:16):
Hello, Hello, Robert, this is Greg.

Speaker 11 (07:21):
Hi Greg. I'm sorry. I'm not in Phoenix, and we
have an internet outage here at this sense, so trying
to try to get into the system was a little different.
So I'm here, We're on the air. I hope it
wasn't so bad at the beginning because I wasn't there.
It just clicked out when when they were going through
the music at the beginning. So I'm connected now, all right, great, great,

(07:42):
thank you. Sorry, I'll hope it wasn't too empty at
the beginning of the show. But I can't help that
technical problem with the Oh that's that's the way things go.
That is so Chris. Then we get today, I don't
know if he's on or not. So we're live on

(08:03):
the air right now and I can't see it. I
don't have the border in front of me because I
can't access it through the computer here at this and
I'm like, I said, the fiber sisters down. So let
me go to christ Austin. Chris, how are you doing
out there in Special Cow.

Speaker 12 (08:16):
Hey, We're doing pretty good out here. It's a it's
a hot day, got some wind, got a little bit
of you know, wildfire red flag alert, but so far
nothing burning, so we're happy for that. Are you getting
hit with the heat out there in Arizona.

Speaker 11 (08:36):
One hundred and fourteen today?

Speaker 12 (08:38):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (08:39):
Well, well, so every the whole the whole section is out.
We can't even we can't even contact century Lin. We've
been trying for an hour and their phones are down everything.
So by luck I could dial into. They kept asking
me for my PIN number and I don't have it
because it's on my computer.

Speaker 13 (08:59):
Can get.

Speaker 11 (09:01):
Anyway. Uh So, what's happening in California? I know that
somebody doesn't want to audit the Delta Tunnel program.

Speaker 12 (09:08):
I guess, well, yeah, it's quite interesting. They had a
committee meeting yesterday.

Speaker 14 (09:16):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (09:16):
Some the tunnel opponents have requested an audit of this
Delta conveyance project because they think that the state is
paying money towards the planning costs. But the Department of
Water Resources maintains that these planning costs are being paid
by the state water contractors. And I have the covered

(09:42):
meetings at Metropolitan when they were when they approved the
millions of dollars for planning. So you know, I do
know at least to some point that that is true.
But who knows what's going on at CWR.

Speaker 11 (09:59):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (10:00):
So they put a they put in a request to
this committee meeting, and there wasn't enough people on hand
to be able to vote for an audit. And the
coverage was very interesting. If you read the article from
Courthouse News, it sounded like it was nothing but people

(10:24):
standing up speaking against the tunnel when they should do
this audit. And then if you read the Sacramento by
they have people saying things like this, Uh, this project
is so under scrutiny that there's no way they could
be doing anything, you know, illegal, because everyone is watching

(10:44):
them and they've we've already audited this project before. So
it was one of those outcomes where like both sides
declared victory. Now apparently because they didn't have enough people
to vote a quorum to vote on this, that they're

(11:05):
going to vote on it at their next meeting, which
would be in a court every quarter or so another
three months then they would vote take a vote on
it at that time. So that has the tunnel opponents
that want the audit saying, yay, we want They're just
going to vote for it, you know, in three months,

(11:26):
and it has the people who are for the tunnel saying, yeah,
they didn't want audit. They didn't say it was worth
worth it to do it. So, you know, we'll see
how it goes. But apparently it's going to be taken
up in the three months, so we'll see another another

(11:47):
round of fun for you know, theo with the Delta
Tunnel project. But so we'll see how it goes. You know,
the conditions, we've had a rapid runoff. You know that
we had a decent snowpack, it got hot, and we've

(12:08):
had a lot of cold water rushing in the streams
and the rivers flowing down, and it so happens that
we're now getting into a mode in California in the
Delta that they call term ninety one, which is this
kind of weird, weird sort of name that they put

(12:33):
this this term in certain people's licenses to divert water.
And what it basically means is that there's not enough
fresh water flow coming naturally to push the salt water
to keep the salt out of the delta, because it's
connected to San Francisco Bay, so we have ties to

(12:54):
push in and out twice a day, so they have
to have fresh water has to be flowing into the
delta to keep the salt water out. So that's all
the rivers and streams, and so when there's not enough
natural runoffs coming in the rivers and streams, then the
water projects, the Central Valley Project, which is the Agriculture

(13:18):
Project for the San Joaquin Valley primarily, and the State
Water Project, they have to release water from their reservoirs
to keep that salt water out. And when they're doing that,
then people that have this term in their licenses cannot
divert water because then they would be diverting previously stored water.

(13:44):
And that's being put in there too, you know, for
water quality standards, and if they started diverting that water,
then the salt water would starting approaching into the delta.
So but what it means is that here we are
in mid June and already we're having a lack of

(14:04):
natural rum off flowing into the delta. We're starting to
have to augment that.

Speaker 11 (14:10):
Well. First, uh you know, we started. I started kind
of a strange jumping in on the call, like I said,
by looking everybody to the water zone. I'm your host,
Rob Star. Mister Chris Baby is off today taking care
of his dad who's just had a surgery today, so
he won't be with us, but our prayers with him.
I heard he came out of surgery okay, and he's

(14:31):
in recovery. And so hopefully Chrys will have a good
evening and we'll be stressed out about that. And we
have this Chris Austin, who is the purveyor of maybe
snowbook on here, and we have a special guest coming up.
Actually maybe two. I can't tell because I have no
access to a computer monitor because all the network is
down out here in Arizona, at least in the Phoenix area.
So Chris, I also thought this point on your on

(14:54):
your news about dunk administration was looking at some water
that they want to more for California. Is that is
that correct? That I leave that right?

Speaker 12 (15:05):
Yeah. They they're trying to figure out, uh you know,
they're they're trying to figure out what to do on
the Colorado River. Which is a which is just a
real mess. What's interesting is that there's a new sort
of idea out there for all the seven states that

(15:26):
take water from the Colorado River for them to kind
of that they're discussing, uh that it's it's an interesting
concept that it's based on what water is flowing into
Lake Powell and how much would flow down the river
if Lake Powell weren't there, and sort of dividing it

(15:48):
up in a different way. And they say this is
a better plan because it's based on actual stream flow
and not you know, hyperbole. So they're so that's one
thing that cropped up this week that's being discussed. And
we now have a commissioner the Bureau Reclamation, and that's

(16:13):
Ted Cook, and he is the guy from Arizona used
to work on the Central Arizona Project, so he's well
versed in the Colorado River issues and so they're trying
to figure out, now what they're going to do. You know,
Arizona has the most to lose on the river because
they have a large chunk of water that they get

(16:35):
from the Colorado River, and Supreme Court decisions back in
nineteen sixty made that Arizona's draw on the river is
junior to Southern California's draw on the river, which means
that if we were to go by the straight law
of the river and the water rights laws that we

(16:57):
have in place, Arizona would take a bit big hit.
So you know, it's trying to but the thing is
everyone's going to be taking a big hit on the
Colorado River. It's just and this is going to be
felt by all any state that takes water from the
Colorado River. And there's no way that this is not

(17:20):
going to not be painful for everybody. It's just a
question of how painful is it going to be for
some people may have more pain than others. I don't know.
So it's a very tricky situation. So there is a
groundwater bank proposed that's out in the Mojave Desert. It's

(17:43):
a very controversial project and it's been around for many
many years, decades actually, and it's the Cadiz Project. And
they they say that there's water there underneath their land
there and they feel they can draw it out and
they draw some of this out and use it for

(18:06):
water supply, and also they think that there could be
a groundwater banking operation there so the Trump administration purportedly
is trying to think if this would be a solution
or some help for Arizona. Now, the only way this
is going to work is if Metropolitan Water District is involved,

(18:29):
because it's going to have to be an exchange. Like
you know, the water that's coming to southern California, they'll say, okay,
let that go to Arizona and we'll take water from
the water bank, right because the water bank can't. You
can't send that water to Arizona from the water bank.

(18:50):
That's it's not hydrologically connected as distant. But what you
used accomplish that through an exchange, so you know, Metro.

Speaker 11 (19:03):
No, it's just say it wasn't there a big deal
about chromium in that water, but I know we had
people on come to East, we had the executive director on.

Speaker 12 (19:14):
But yeah, there's questions about you know, contamination and some
and sometimes things are natural and not just you know,
not just artificial, and there's just been a lot of
questions about uh, this project. Metropolitan Uh was looking at

(19:35):
it decades ago, literally decades ago, like before I even
started covering water news, and they were looking at it
and then they decided no, Uh, Senator Feinstein was was
very much against it, you know. Uh so that that's
how far back it goes. But they have stuck around

(19:58):
and they haven't agreed meant to sell water to I
think it's the Santa Margarita Water District in Orange County.
And but you know, they have to work out the
pipeline too, you know, the actual connection to deliver the
water to uh, you know, to the water district. And

(20:20):
they have a natural gas pipeline that they're thinking about
repurposing for water and I think they're working on trying
to get approval to do that. But it's a very
complicated problem or project. It's very far away from everything.
So you know, conveyance becomes a big deal, right And yeah,

(20:46):
we'll we'll see how well, we'll see what happens. It's
been around for decades, this project.

Speaker 11 (20:53):
Yeah, so I know that. What what other hot topics
you've gotten the next three minutes that we can we
can talk about again, I don't have your sheet in
front of me like that. I just I saw lots
of stuff in there. What what would you say is
the next issue we got to deal with in California?

Speaker 12 (21:11):
Well, let's see, I'm flipping through my troop and through
my my daily digest here. Oh, they brought the they
brought the fish back from that they took when when
they had the fires, they evacuated some endangered fish from
the Palisades fire and took them away and and uh

(21:35):
uh put them in another hatchery. And now they are back.
They brought them back and put them back into the
back into the the river the streams. So then you know,
there's kind of a good news. They're back home now
and will continue. Yeah, budget cuts are gonna affect the well,

(21:56):
they're going to affect a lot of things, uh you know,
bilderness and uh, national parks and stuff, but also going
to be affecting things around Mono Lake. Uh so that's
kind of you know, we'll see what happened there. I'm
just slipping through here to see what we have.

Speaker 11 (22:19):
Anybody make any comments about water for Los Angeles, for
the fires or anything, or any corrections by by by
Los Angeles or any or the county or the states.
You know, the reservoirs that were empty and the valves
that didn't work, And I haven't heard a word about that.

Speaker 12 (22:40):
Well, I think that we all said over and over
again that regulations had nothing to do with it. There was, uh,
the one reservoir was empty for maintenance, and maybe they
should have had it done sooner. You can take that
up with LA ed WP, But it would not have

(23:02):
made much of a difference because the fire systems are
not meant. They're meant to put out a structure fire,
not to face a wall of fire coming into a neighborhood.
So there's just no way, no way that you know
that that that that that we would have had another outcome.

(23:25):
We had super high winds, we couldn't run the aerial fight,
which is key to fighting southern California. So it's really
the wind had nothing to do with regulations, and the
water that got released that Trump thinks went to LA
to put out the fires came nowhere near La and
never that's never happened. Yet he's still he still talks

(23:47):
like he still he still says he turned the big
knob that doesn't exist. So I don't know, I don't
know what to say. We don't talk about it anymore
because we all got tired of saying the same thing
over and over again. And boy, did that story just perpetuate.

Speaker 11 (24:04):
Yes, yes, yes, it's a well of Chris. We thank
you as always. Sorry I was delayed could get onto
the system. And hope our listeners understand that sometimes there
are technical problems beyond our operations and we just have
to risk it out. But we have other ways to
try to get into the connection. So we did that

(24:24):
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Hope you're staying reasonably cool up in Central and we
will talk to you next week.

Speaker 12 (25:02):
You have a good week, all right, All right, good
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Okay, what.

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Right?

Speaker 4 (28:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (28:26):
Right?

Speaker 11 (28:29):
We lost you to So I mean, having a crazy
day here, trying to deal with the trying to get
into the studio in a different way. And so how
are you doing today in southern California?

Speaker 5 (28:42):
Well, I'm doing pretty good. We're we're also uh hit
with a fire alert wind. Uh you know, dry weather,
sant Ana Way kind of thing. So till Monday. My
internet's working in my cell phone signal. I think it's working,
isn't it?

Speaker 11 (28:59):
Yeah? Unclear? So, uh, we've known each other for quite
a few years, but uh, I thought we'd have just
a casual conversation today. And I don't know if the
Festus has joined us because I can't see the control
board from here. Uh festis are you on? He's and

(29:22):
you're in You're in tenure right now? Is that correct?

Speaker 6 (29:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (29:27):
I mean Kenya and what time and what time of
day very night?

Speaker 6 (29:32):
Is it the two?

Speaker 20 (29:37):
But the money.

Speaker 11 (29:41):
We appreciate you, uh saying not and uh so so Greg,
how should we start the conversation? I know this is on.
Maybe we should talk about the project you are doing
in Africa?

Speaker 5 (29:57):
Well, yes, well let me roughly introduce it. Fast found
Global water Works online in search of help for you know,
his his country, his people, and Global water Works. I'm

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part of that and Mary got a hold of me
and we we put together an idea to provide clean,
safe water to keep people from dying in Kenya and
dying of thirst. So we came up with this passive
rainwater harvesting system design and we've been trying to raise

(30:42):
money to fund the products. We've done eleven systems. That
means there's a couple of thousand people that are not
drinking dirty water and don't have to walk for three
or four kilometers and carry the water home. So Fessist
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(31:04):
the the American Rainwater Catchment Association training manual, and we're
moving forward.

Speaker 11 (31:15):
How much rain can you collect? How much or what
this precipitation in Kenya? How much how little wait time?
Can you hear me?

Speaker 5 (31:27):
I'm having a hard time hearing you.

Speaker 21 (31:37):
Yeah, how much?

Speaker 5 (31:37):
Just one thousand?

Speaker 11 (31:40):
Go ahead?

Speaker 20 (31:44):
Yeah, the rain in Bometti one thousands averaged annually, but
we got we get a lot of rain, and that's
why we we decided that haven't rain water would be

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the weakest way to get glint the water.

Speaker 11 (32:15):
Yeah, and and how how did you have to purify
the water after you collected or just take it and
use it? Time? Hearing you? Greg? And you can you
chime in?

Speaker 6 (32:35):
Don't have me.

Speaker 11 (32:40):
Basically light lem you could be at basing that ten
thousand and eight. I'm losing you to Greg. If you're trying,
if you're moving or something like, you're you're coming up
very low to me here hmm. If its seed instantly,

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Hello? Ron, that was a little more. I'll take that question.

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