January 9, 2025 • 46 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Getting dark.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Ah. No, I don't want to clap down. I don't
want to cut that part. Fuck it word. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Hey everyone, and welcome to Wayfair and Strangers. It is
twenty twenty five. We haven't podcasted since the last year. Wow, listen,
I have to make myself laugh. My back hurts.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I talked about that over in coffee. I'm not repeating myself.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I hurt my back. I'm old and I hurt my back.
But I still exercised afterwards. And God bless tyl and all. Hallelujah.
So yeah, it's a miracle drug. Well be careful, though,
so be careful with everything. Yes, be careful with everything.
That's the lesson.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Or throw caution to the wind, whatever you want to do.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
God see your as indecisive as I am about No, no, no,
I'm just not.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I'm not here to tell anybody how to live their life.
You know, you want to if the if the recipe
calls for two clothes of garlic and you want to
toss in five or six, do it.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Do it.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
It's what I do.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I do love.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, do it, do it.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I'm gonna one hundred drop in sheave Palpatine just laying
it out for y'all from Star.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Wars right here, do it f YI, I have thank
you Joel.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
There's a Star Wars podcast coming from me and my
cousin at some point. What Yeah, very excited and uh,
more about that in the future. But hello everybody. It's
a little chaotic because we're just coming off of a
really wonderful break and we had a fantastic time together.
We did so many awesome things, and our Christmas was
(02:11):
special and wonderful, and our New Year's was also wonderful
and special. And I stole one of Bella's Christmas gifts
and used it all of New Year's Eve and it
was the mini like inte in stacks in stacks is
that what it is? In SATs the essentially a polaroid camera, Yeah,
(02:32):
but they're mini. Yeah, And I went through fucking two
and a half rolls of film on New Year's even.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It was wonderful.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
So maybe we'll post some of those pictures to the
stories because it was lovely and we were with my
sister and her family and yeah, we just yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Great times. Beat Saber was played. That was awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Now we're back. It's twenty twenty five. It's time to
continue and finish these emails, which overbreak. I finished the
entire master list, and we are caught up to the
most recent email that we've received. Unbelievable, and I am
so excited because that means there's an end of the line.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I see the light, go to the light.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, look for the light.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
It's the end of this document, and then we can
pick up Left Behind and then get into part two.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, it's probably just start Left Behind over again. At
this point, I forgot everything that happened.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Jesus, just go listen to our episode.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Oh yeah, that's good, Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I mean I theoretically I could unpublish that and then
republish it so the flow, like the feed is accurate.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I would unpublish it, but then republish it on the
same day we do the second episode. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, maybe I'll do that, just to have so.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Because people that are behind, people are writing, well, they're
all caught up now, because we get these emails that
are like I'm a little behind. It's like we get so,
you're sure we all caught up right now, right, But
anybody who happens to be behind, they'll just get a
nice they'll be able to go right right into it. Yep,
like that never changed. So there you go. And we're
(04:12):
giving you all the heads up too that that will
be happening. So if you're listening right now, left behind
might have disappeared from your feet. It will magically yea
here later. Don't relisten to it, or do re listen
to it, whatever you want to do.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I might re listen to it just so I can
remember what the fuck we talked about. But and I also,
I mean, I'm in the middle of re listening to
all of our episodes anyway because of the big Instagram
thing that is going to happen now that we're.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Back at it for real, for real. But yes, I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And we saw the trailer for HBO Last of Us
on HBO.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And it said April. Yeah, April is for season two.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Which which might be the problem. It's gonna pose a
little bit of a problem because we have have a
vacation that will take up probably two of those Sundays,
So I'm gonna have to figure out like they're gonna
be delayed episodes obviously, and a shit fucked ton of
work for me when we get do.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
You want to record on the plane. I think that'd
be really fun. No, I could keep microphone.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Kiss or they would join in. I don't know. You
never know with.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
People on planes, Sir, sir, and seventeen B. You look
like you have something to say. It's our first live show,
and it's right. It's on Delta, Delta the fuck out
of here.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
We fly American.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
But I love that you just said seventeen B because
you know that I always choose row eighteen. That yes,
of course, so the person in front of us would
be seventeen Like what are you doing back then?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
So I don't know why, why he's the Duke of Wellington,
But what are you doing backflow? I shay, I declare.
And now it's gone somewhere else. It's gone down to
the Deep South. I don't know what the hell just happened.
In my brain I connected these two very disparate accents.
(06:19):
But here we are. I love it became Colonel Sanders
in like two seconds. Yeah fine, yeah, I was looking
for either way, looking for more pomp.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
But that's all right. So anyway, oh.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
My god, let's get into these emails, all right. So
I'm going to let you wait no, I'm going to
take this one.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Okay, because January eleventh, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, we're in.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I mean, here we go. We're we're only two years off.
We're all just shy.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yes, but twenty twenty four barely had any towards the end.
So trust me when I tell you that there is
a giant gap at one point.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Get oh, there was a giant gap in our show.
So that that tracks. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
All right, I'm gonna go because.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Uh of what it says at the end, Billiam. Yes,
so this is from William, which is s rin. But
this is from January eleventh, from twenty twenty three. Good morning,
starting my typical Wednesday morning at work, listening to your podcast?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Uh, what is Army Dogs evil?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Should you want to read this one?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Shit?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Keep going? No, No, we don't cut, we don't cut
ri dogs is what was written by liel dogs.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I was like regarding dogs, I was like, are we
talking about dogs like Popper?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
No, there's no asterisk or there's no colon. It's not
like regarding in reply to dogs. No, it's resident evil
dogs dogs.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Okay, okay, so sorry William, So Ari Dogs came up
and how infection started. I just want to share that
it depends which virus is being talked about. Been a while,
but if I remember correctly, T virus dogs were infected
by contaminated food, while others were created by a bow
bioorganic weapon or bowel. So just something I wanted to share,
(08:15):
being us as gamers always want to learn new things
about the games that we love.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Have a great day, Jack and Barb.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Who wait a minute, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, but we don't know when William started listening to
the podcast, so he didn't know, like if he.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Were still am I to believe that here's the deal? No,
I don't buy this. I think I'm being trolled by
mister Billy here because there is no way that Barb
talked about resident evil dogs. That's oh no way.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I didn't even think of that. I didn't think of that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, So have a great day to you two, Billiam.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Don't be mean, don't be mean.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, So, uh, Andrew, you can talk more about resident
evil dogs. However, it's interesting that Lern I've never played
these games, so I don't know that. But the T
virus were infected. The dogs were infected by contaminated food,
which turns out to be the provenance of Cordyceps CBI
in the Last of Us on HBO contaminated food, which
(09:26):
it was also contaminated food in the game two because
again referencing the newspaper in Joel's bathroom back on episode
one a million fucking years ago when he talked about
that it talks about food from South America being contaminated.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
They changed a little bit in.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
The show, but still, okay, it was a bigger deal
on the show, which.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Is why I talked about it here.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
So yeah, the this is interesting. I don't remember a
ton of the details about Resident Evil one, and it
gets weird quick when you get into later Resident Evils, Like,
you know, I don't think it's the spoilers say that
like by the eighth Resident Evil, there are like were wolves, right,
just very bizarre but not bad, just different. So the dogs.
(10:11):
So here's what I remember about the dogs in Resident
Evil is that I think what had happened is people
that were infected with the tea virus died, and then
the dogs began eating them because they had no food,
and then the dogs became infected because they ate you know,
(10:33):
infected flesh, whatever. So it could also have been the
food though there you know, there are a million different
ways to get infected by by tea virus. A lot
of the times people will just be infected by it,
you know, they're just like, here's a shot in the arm.
Good luck. It's times tiken away. You got to go
find the antidote or whatever, like, Okay, seems like it'd
(10:55):
be more immediate if it was just an injection versus
a bite. But hey, what the hell do I know.
I'm not a doctor. I am a doctor, but you
know what I'm saying, not a zombie doctor.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, sure, I mean I would say you're closer to
a zombie doctor than a real doctor to be personally
on you.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Know, potato patata.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Sure, sure, sure.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, that's it's interesting though. Yeah, it could be the
It could have been the food.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
And you know, Resident Evil one is a game almost
at this point entirely such a vibe. More than the
details were scant, Right, you could read a book and
you can, like in in game book, you know, you
would get lower through stuff you find, But I don't
know how many like very specific details there were beyond
(11:40):
like them talking about the T virus and the end
goal of that. So pretty interesting, though pretty interesting, right, all.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Right, so this is a little weird.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Weird.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
We did a thing.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
We covered William's first email from January eleventh, but then
he sent a longer email from January January eleventh of
twenty twenty three, talking about the potential future of The
Last of Us beyond Part two, including ideas for Part
three and so on and so forth. Andrew and I
did a literal like forty five minutes about what we
(12:15):
think and my ranting and raving and all that stuff.
And by the end of it, yes, it got very dark.
By the end of it, I felt pretty much on
the verge of tears from like anger to be perfectly honest,
because I do not want to talk about this stuff
until we are in the shit with the game, and
that is like, you know, two hundred hours from now.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So it's fair, William, we did cover your email.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
It's recorded, and it will be released literally in like
a year or two, so.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Hopefully two years late to read it, but it will
be one year from when we respond.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I know it sucks, but it's just like I'm like,
this is not right, Like this isn't the right time
to talk about this stuff. And I you know, I'm
I'm working hard on being authentic without alienating, and I
felt that my authenticity was a little too strong in
that to be perfectly honest.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
So okay, hey, look.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, we put that on the back burner and now
we're going to continue with emails still from twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
For this week's episode.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, and we took a little break and I have
the Tens machine on my back, which is I'm sitting
like Ramrod straight at my desk recording this podcast. So
it'll probably be a little shorter than anticipating anticipated, but yeah,
hopefully it's still good.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Okay, I'm taking over. This one's from Bell B. E. L. Yes,
which is interesting. That's the first person I've ever known
with that name.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
And look at the date jump from January eleventh to
June fifth.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
See, I told you there's gaps. We got gaps, got gaps.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
In the words and the wise words of Balboa. Yeah,
Bell writes, Hi, Jack and Andrew, it's Bell from Edinburgh here,
Thanks so much for reading my email out of the
first Bonus Show. Out on the first Bonus Show, I
meant to reply back about the pronunciation of and we
get the oh so I said it right Edinburgh in Edinburgh,
(14:27):
and about the month long performing arts festival that Andrew
correctly mentioned, but time got away from me. I was
super happy to hear that scottsman Derk had me covered
in the last show. So we are all good. A
lot of Scots. Yes, go y'all have delightful accents, much
like maybe we have delightful accents, but not to each
(14:49):
other and certainly not to our peers in this country.
As for calling our son Jesse, my wife knows that
there's a character called Jesse in The Lest of Us
Part two, but she reckons that we didn't name him
because of that. We just liked the name. I mean,
she could definitely believe that, but we know, yeah, oh yeah.
(15:14):
Also wanted to jump on and send a photo of
my tlue tattoo, which I got last year. How's your
sleeve coming along? Jack, would love to see a photo
when it's finished.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
All right, Well, yes, me too.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Asking you shall receive. I've been listening to Wayfaring Strangers
as well and loving it. You guys are awesome. Really
loved the Jeffrey Pierce episode I think I sent you
guys another email around the end of the TV series,
so you might be hearing from me again soon. I
hope you're both doing great. Keep up the awesome work.
Love Belle in Edinburgh. PS. Jesse says, hi that and
(15:45):
we have a photo little photo here of Jesse, of Jesse.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
He's so cute.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Vest great hat. Yeah, Oh, man's holding there.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Oh he found a good stick. You love when you
find a good stick.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah. And the tattoo. Love the tattoo.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
It's a little bit of a spin on Ellie's moth
and fern. So we have the moth with the firefly
logo in the mothhead.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, which is unique. I like that.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
And then we have the solid We have a solid
fern coming out from one angle and a kind of light,
lightly colored shaded fern from the other with an arrow
cutting through the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
It's it's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, So thank you, yeah, thank you for sharing that,
and thank you for giving us our flowers like it
and from Edinburgh.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I love it so my god.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
We have to get to Scotland, that is, we have
to we have to go to Scotland.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
It's here I mean, here's the deal, you know, hot
take right. Sure, you know people talk about going to
that that air that you know, let's let's call it
the United Kingdom, right, and there are there are are
probably like nine places I would go before I went
(17:04):
to go to London. Oh god.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
And I'm not trying to be mean to our London listeners.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
No, no, no, I just you know, when I see
the photos of like a place like Edinburgh or you know,
people from my from my homeland, my motherland, Ireland, I
see photos of that, I'm like, oh my god, that exists.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, it's done.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And I want to see that. You know, London lovely,
I'm sure, but also a city. I grew up in
a city, you know. Yeah, so I didn't grow up
in a city that old, but I grew up in
an old in a one of the oldest cities in
America at least. Sure that is. That's something. But yeah,
I would you know that sounds it's a beautiful place.
(17:46):
I would love to love to go there, so.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, hopefully sometime soon.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
But from Edinburgh that would be amazing. Oh my god,
let's fucking go.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
S gotjoy, ass gotjoy anyway, So thank you so much Belle,
and yeah, just fantastic pictures or fantastic tattoo and your
son is just so lovely so and now he's two
years older than that now, which is wild.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
So hope everyone's doing well. So after that wonderful email
from Scotland, we're moving to Chris p on June twentieth,
twenty twenty, and Chris says.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I think I figured it out.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Although this may not be news to anyone else, it
amazes me how the uncanny valley in the list of
US two is practically nonexistent, specifically with the main characters
during cutscene and near cutscene situations. Their eyes seem lifelike,
and that is insane. But I noticed that the eyeballs
dart back and forth in minuscule motions, back and forth,
(18:52):
even when focusing on something like a real person's would.
You're looking at something intently, but there is still movement
in your eyes a blank stare. I'm referring specifically to
the scene where Jesse pops up in the middle of
Ellie evading the WLF in Seattle, and he's asking about Dina.
When Ellie's talking to him, you can see her tiny
(19:12):
eye darts. It's amazing stuff, and he included a still
image of this exact moment with Ellie's eyes very wide
and I remember that scene well, continuing it makes her
seem real.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I love her. Wait did I just say that part
out loud?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Forget I said that, but ease, Nope, it's on It's
been immortalized on radio waves forever.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Chris.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yes, future generations will know about it.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Thanks hope all as well. Peace out, Chris.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
So, I mean, I agree. I don't have a ton
to add to this. I just completely agree. This game
is almost five years old. We're talking about Part two
and the Last of Us Part one. The remake is
now in the same class as Part two, and no
other game still looks this good to me.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Like it's just not there yet.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
And I watch you play a lot of games I see.
I mean, you play stuff that literally came out two
months ago, and I'm like, that shit could have been
ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Wow, okay, well, all right, let's not get too ahead
of ourselves. Holy shit, this is this is real war Star Wars.
Rate Outlaws Erasure I think is what you're referring to.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
And Vailguard, I know, two very different styles.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh yeah, but vail Guard is intentionally looks away. That's
an art that's an art direction thing. But here's what
I do. I am inclined to agree with you and
and Chris as well.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Sure that.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You know, there's a reason these games take so so
goddamn long. Yeah, and it's because of those details. Yeah right, yeah,
I'm trying to think of like this is going to
be like an impossible task to try. Well, oh no, no, no, okay,
here it is. We will have a game in twenty
twenty five, you know, knock on wood. Actually, if we're
to believe the reports that hit how the sausage is made,
(21:01):
if we're to believe financial forecasts or whatever, Grand Theft
Auto six will be coming out in four and a
half months, five months, maybe, right. I don't necessarily think,
but you know, you know, it's nice to know.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
It's good to have a goals.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Let's put on our optimism hat. Sure, Grand Theft Auto
six is from a studio that literally has all of
the money they are. Rockstar is constantly at the top
of the list of it's unfathomable how much money that
(21:46):
company makes from a game that's thirteen years old.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Fucking crazy.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
When Grand Theft Auto six comes out from a company
that has billions of dollars to spend. It will not
look this good. You can mark me down. Yeah, same
as that being true, it will look good, it will
not look this good. The only game that I've played
I can actually here's I will say this. The only
(22:14):
game that I've played in recent memory that has come
close to the fidelity of character fidelity of the Last
of Us is Alan Wake two.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Okay, I almost bought that. I almost bought it the
other day.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
That is because Remedy cares deeply about that and they
hire actual actors to do the performances. So much like
the mocap that happens for Naughty Dog games, Remedy is
working with similar technology, and you know, they have partnerships
with Epic for the unreal engine and stuff, so they're
(22:50):
pushing the technology to its limits. But beyond those two examples,
cannot think of another game that has this level of
like detail for characters. So it's it's tough out there.
I agree, So well done, Chris. If you like this, Chris,
(23:10):
you know, if fidelity is what you're going for, I
highly recommend Alan Wake two and you'll be like, well, Andrew,
don't have to play Alan Wake one. You do not.
In fact, it might make the experience worse if you
played Alan Wake one, because it's the character you play
as in the second game is coming in as an outsider,
(23:32):
and so she is finding out the story as if
it's a beautiful narrative device. She is learning the story
that you are learning if you're coming into the second game, okay,
and so all the details are filled in in a
way that makes a lot of sense. She's like, who
the hell where did Alan Wake go? You know, and
she's an FBI agent. So it's great. No spoilies, No,
(23:55):
that's it. That's all I'll say. Great. Main character's name
is Saga, so come on, that's pretty cool. What a
great name. So yeah, okay? On two?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, sure, Last of Us.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
The Last of Us too two?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Two of Us Part one and two. You keep forgetting
the remake.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I'm just saying that this email specifically referenced a scene
from the Last of Us Part two. Okay, all right.
On July twenty third, we get an email from aoin
p who says, hello, my name is Aowin, and then
a helpful pronunciation guide. My co host informs me that
(24:34):
Aoin is a Lord of the Rings character. Yes, but
it's also just a name that people can have.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Hell yeah, our win real life are winds. Not too
many legalists I haven't run.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Outside, well, none that I've met, at least outside of fiction.
I've never met or encountered in Aowin. So this is
this is great. You're you're now my favorite Aoin.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, I love it. Your parents are awesome.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
You're also my only ioin.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
But we get it.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
You set the bar very high. I am a big
t LU fan. I have watched the show, and when
the game finally came to PC, I started the game
as I am too poor for AVS five. Lol. None
of my friends have played the game. It makes me sad.
None of my friends have watched the show yet it
makes me sad. So listening to your podcast makes me happy.
(25:28):
You never talked about Ellie's horse Shimmer in your episodes.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
The fact that they added Shimmer as a fole was
so amazing. I have watched playthroughs of the second and
first game because I was still too poor for a
BS five. I can't wait for the second game to
come out onto PC. Love your podcast xoxo did we
not talk about Shimmer? That seems uncharacteristic of us but
(25:54):
me and a show. Oh that's probably yeah, that's probably right.
I don't know if we mentioned it because because.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Is this another last cast email?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
That's okay. I feel like this goes both ways because
this person Aowen, has played whether they played the game
and then watch the show or whatever, they found.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Us and however you found them? Have you found however
you found us? Thank you so much? And I love
your name like a Win's the goat. I am no man, Sorry,
I had to, but.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I just shimmer.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yes, I promise that when we are back on the
last cast covering season two, we will bring up Shimmer.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I think Shimmer plays a bigger role.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
In Part two.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
In Part two, yes, absolutely, and I don't even think
like there was no again, we are trying very hard
to stay away from Part two talk in this extremely
wonky recording.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Night that we're having.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
You know, the the introduction of Shimmer was kind of
you had to read it through subtext. In Joel's house,
so Shimmer was obviously a horse given to Ellie. I
would assume from Joel because he had that picture in
his hallway, his second floor hallway outside of his bedroom
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where it was him and Sarah on the left to
the picture that we all know, and then the carved eagle,
assuming again that Joel did that because that's what he
was into. And then on the other side of that
was Ellie and Joel and she was petting a horse
like the a horse head, So I'm assuming that that
was when she was gifted Shimmer.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, that seems the track.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, which side note, if anybody ever looks at that
fucking picture, it is so weird. Joel's forearm is like
skinnier than my forearm. It's the strangest shit. And it's
not like, oh that's Ellie's fo No, it's Joel's. Like
it's very bad. It looks like terrible photoshop. Trust me,
(28:07):
trust me.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Trust trust me, trust me.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Please go and look at it. It's fucking hilarious.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Anyways, look at it. Don't notice things, stop noticing things.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I can't help it. It's what I do, all right.
So yeah, yeah, I'm sorry that we didn't mention Shimmer.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
We will though, we will though. That's the thing. Yeah,
here's here's what happened here. Well, this is a great thing.
We can hedge both ways. This is so good. If
we didn't mention something, it's because we weren't ready to
mention it. But if but sure, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
That's a little good bit of a cop out. But
I'll roll with it.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Nope, we weren't ready to mention it. We were saving
it for important We're professionals, God damn it. So sure
Aoin number one Aoin in my heart?
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yes, also number one ao Win. Well can you be
tied with Aoin from Return of the King? Is that
specifically Return to the King because of her awesome hero moment.
I'm just curious, that's all. Okay, she's a bannie, she's
a bandie. I'm just that's all I'm saying. It's a
great name to have. All right, I'm moving forward. So
(29:17):
August twenty fourth of twenty twenty three. See, we're literally
almost at the end of the fucking year already. I
told you it's not gonna be ye.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
My name is Jeff.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
My name from Jeff s Hi, Jack and Andrew, just
checking in, hoping that all is okay with you and yours.
Haven't seen anything for some time on the podcast front,
and just wanted to make sure you're all good Saul.
What's your birthday recently? Jack, welcome to your fifth decade.
It's good, it's good, and I'm halfway through. No pressure
or complaints. Just wanted you to know people are thinking
(29:47):
of you and hoping you are well.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Jeff, thank you.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yes, I turned forty and twenty twenty three. I will
be turning forty two in August of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Five, So.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Honestly, I'm loving my apart from the fact that, again
going back to the beginning of this episode, I opened
a window and hurt my back, So I don't love
that part of the forties where it's just like, if
you sneeze too hard, you could be hobbled for a week.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
You you know what.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
It's you know what did I say to you? You
have twenty two days until you are forty Andrew.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, but it's not a switch that flips, you see,
it's not Keep.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Telling yourself that, keep telling yourself that, Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
We'll see, yeah, we will, you will see, we will We'll.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
See anyway, Thank you so much, Jeff. Yes, we were
in the middle of one of our many hiatuses back there, one.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Of our classic classic breaks. You know, yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
We are no longer in that in any of that nonsense.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
So yeah, just but I do. I do have to
say I appreciate you checking in like that. That is
a very big thing to me when people check in
with me in general, like if you're and it's not
because I'm seeking attention. It's not because I'm like, well,
why isn't nobody wondering where we're at? No, it's not
(31:13):
that at all. It's just it's like people out there
give a shit. That's what it and that's literally what
it is. And that's wonderful because I give a shit.
So thank you very much for that, and I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
You should read the next email I am.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
This is also from Jeff from April seventh, twenty twenty four,
right before our trip, and he says, Hi, Jack and Andrew.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Great to have you back. You were missed. Looking forward
to the next episode. Cheers Jeff.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah, and again we basically, oh this is twenty twenty four, babe.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
By the way, we are in twenty twenty four. We're
out of twenty three.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Well you say that, but if you scroll two emails down,
Oh yeah, beauty.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah again, I put names emails together. I don't do chronologically,
I do, but I don't. Yeah, So thank you, Jeff.
We were happy to be back. And then I know
we did I think two episodes that April, and then
we did one episode of Wayfair and West in the
beginning of May, and then we basically took a fucking
break until September.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
So it again. But I had all those problems and
issues last summer. We don't need to rehash it. We're back.
That's all that matters. So, yes, you guys are great.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
It's Jeff, jefflis one more we're doing, Jeff. We're gonna
finish the Jeff females. Yeah, just go all right here.
It is hi, Jack and Andrew. Once again. Wonderful to
have you back, Jef, Jeff, it's great to be back.
What I'm saying, I just wanted to put my take
out there for you on a point from the most
recent episode, which at that point was twenty five, you
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went through the quote meat Ledger with David's group under
the assumption that it was all or mostly human personally.
I was never under that assumption. I had always thought
it was non human meat e G. Dear. I found
it very interesting that you assumed it was human I
already figured the group relied on deer et cetera, but
(33:05):
supplemented with human where possible. The fact that they were
so happy to get the deer from Ellie in the
first place seems to confirm this in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
The hanging bodies in the cooler that Joel encounters I
had always assumed were casualties from the group from Ellie's
encounter before being captured. I'm skeptical there would be enough
people moving about to support the group or to yield
some of the numbers in that ledger. Let me know
what you think. Cheers Jeff, And as a PostScript, keep
(33:35):
up the great work.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Uh. Yes, one hundred percent. I agree.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
And I remember reading this email back when it came
and I was like.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Oh my god, why did we go to the darkest
possible fucking scenario Because some of the pounds were like
fifty five hundred pounds or something, and I was like,
we were.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Like, that's a lot of fucking people, all people.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
No, And he brings up, Jeff, you bring up a great,
great point here with the the bodies that were hanging
in the meat locker were probably the people that Jolinellie
had killed that they were their men and took them back,
and that's how they treat their own fucking people, which
is just that's also sick.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
But like they honor them by creating a delicious meal
out of them.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
You don't need to string them up by their feet
with a fucking bag over their head, naked essentially, Like
that's just that's serial killer shit. So I fuck you David,
But like, yes, Jeff, this is a great email.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Thank you for one hundred percent correcting us.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
And I'm yeah, I'm not corrected.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Year how that's so many people like it's not a.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Bus tour come through recently.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Fucking bus tour. No, but just the logic, we just
went to the darkest. We were probably so hung up, honestly,
I can tell you right now when I was doing
those notes, I can guarantee you I was so hung
up on just the nastiness of David and his people
and what he wanted to do to Eliot, like the
whole thing, that my brain just went dark a scenario,
(35:14):
and that's where we landed without any room for other theories.
So thank you for thank you for putting that into
our focus again because a.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Little perspective, Yeah, I think. Here's what I yeah, it
makes it makes a lot of sense. What I'll say
is it seems like they're you know, there's a butcher. Clearly,
you know, they had the instruments of creating some sausages.
Let's say. Sure, and if you have a sausage in
real life you go to the supermarket. Right now, Most
of the time it is a mixture. Yeah, it's like
(35:45):
pork and turkey or chicken. You know, it's not all
of one thing. So you know, unless you're specifically seeking out,
like turkey meatballs, even Italian meatballs are not just beef.
You know, there's everything. So they put cost little human
in there. It's like, oh, we got venison and there's
a little human in there.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
The human in there, Jesus, that's I mean, if the
average person weighed two hundred pounds, Yeah, how.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Many people is that? Do the math please for me.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
It's easy. It's five per thousand pounds, So it's twenty
five twenties.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
You know, that's a lot of pies.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
We're talking about twenty seven people were at fifty five
hundred pounds.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
That's so many. That seems like more people than David had.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Now here's the thing also, right, yeah, twenty yeah. That
here's also the thing. You gotta work. You know, a
lot of that's going to be bone right, that's unfortunate.
A lot of it's inenable. So we're talking about fifty
five hundred pounds of meat. That's like fifty people at least.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Now, all right, Oh my god, I'm done. I'm tapping out.
We've had that's that's that's it. That's it.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
We did it, what we've fucking mathed it?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Oh god, ew all right, I gotta move on. Jeff, Jeff,
thank you for making this so dark. Oh, man's getting dark?
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, pretty creepy. Hello, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Okay, so, yes, this show was something fucking else. By
the time you're listening to this show, it might be
forty five minutes long, but we are well over the
two hour mark because of just some fuck ups that
we've had, some emails that we recorded that were not
stop it.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
This was such a hot mess. This whole day for
me was just a hot boss.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
I'm done, I am Dutch. Vanderlyn and I have a
planned okay, Arthur, Arthur, Oh, there's another game that actually
has a pretty high level of fidelity. The reduption.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah, but it's now, it's now seven years old. It'll
be seven years old in October.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Sure, but it's most of us, not last of us,
but good. But not last of us, but good. I
would love that's what GTA six is going to look like,
mark my words, just a little bit better than that.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
I'm so glad. Oh god, this is such a hot take.
I'm sorry for everyone listening. I'm so glad. I don't
know a single fuck about Grand Theft Audio games.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
You've never PLAYID audio.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I know, first of all, you don't even know what.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yes, I did play. I played for hours the first
game or five five.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
I literally I did like two or three missions and
then the one just got stuck and it was like
I did a like a glitch, and I googled it. It
was like, well, you should probably restart the game, and
I was like, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
So I just like playing a Rock Star game.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I ran around and just did ach of dumb shit,
and I was like, this gets boring really quick.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Here's what I'll say. Listen, just as a thing. I know,
we're running along when it comes out. Just you got
to be there on day one. It's different. It hits different.
You played it like ten years after it came it
of course it's not going to be the same. We'll see, look,
you know, we'll see it might not be It might
(39:27):
for you that's going to be. Yeah, maybe maybe it
won't hit the same, you know, maybe it'll just be
like I don't like this, but wait until the Game
of the Year and then be like, well, I guess
I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
I mean, I disagree with the Game of the Year
almost every fucking year, so that means nothing. But like, yeah,
I just again, it was hilarious to run around and
smash cars and trucks and planes and whatever else into shit.
But then I'm like, I just.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I'm bored.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
There is a hilarity to.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
The missions, I understand, but I do.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Couldn't even get that far because it glitched out of me,
and I was like, I don't like this game enough
to replay all this.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
It was the funniest happening when we when I think
it was probably during the COVID when COVID first struck,
we were playing Grand theft Ato five, you know, my
group of people's and you know, online, and my buddy
Tristan decided to join US and the first mission. The
(40:27):
first mission in Grand Theft Auto Online is go buy
a pair of pants, and he simply could not do it,
like the game would not let him do it, and
he logged out, deleted the game, re downloaded the game,
logged back in same mission, couldn't buy pants. So that
(40:47):
is the furthest that Tristan has ever gotten in Grand
Theft Auto five Online, the first mission. It's stupid and
he again, that's just Rockstar. I don't know what to
tell you. Sometimes you're not lucky. Uh but yeah, that
was maybe the worst twenty dollars he's ever spent twenty dollars.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
God, so good, Yeah, so good.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Anyway, moving on, So that's going to be our show
today is chaotic and well by the time everyone listens
to this, it will not be chaotic.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
The smoothest smooth show, so.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Smooth and uh yeah, more more coming next week with
another email show.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
But we are catching up fast.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
We're already in twenty twenty four, so yes, and then
some stuff for the Last of Us on HBO has
been released a trailer. It is confirmed to come out
in April of twenty twenty five. So I think we
not think we are going to do an episode over
on there, so just jumping ahead a little bit.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
If you would like to follow our.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Other show, you can do that just by searching the
last cast on all of your podcast listener, platform provider places. So,
but if you like to follow us on some social media,
I'm mostly active. I'm like infrequently active but sometimes active
over on Instagram, and that is Teelu Podcasts. We do
(42:10):
have a Blue Sky at Telu podcast if you'd like
to be on a future email show. Reminder, once we
do get caught up to all of the emails from
the end of twenty twenty four, we will be just
reading emails at the start of regular shows going forward
with us, or the or the end of the show,
or maybe it'll be a mid show break whatever we
end up doing. All of the emails will be delivered
(42:33):
to y'all on time instead of stockpiled. So if you
want to be a part of that teelupodcast at gmail
dot com, if you like to sign up over on
our coffee to get a shit ton of extra episodes
in the way of pre and post show. Some pictures
of Andrew and I and our family from Christmas, our
adventures to New York, although I think I put them
(42:56):
as public so you could just check them out if
you want. But we have Wayfair and book Club starting
up probably if I had to estimate, in about a month,
and Andrew will be back with a What's Andrew Gaming
slash Wayfaring Gaming and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
We landed on wop uh.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
You can do that over at coffee which is ko
dash Fi dot com slash Telu podcast and yeah, just
hang out with us over there.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Which also gives you access to the Discord.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
And Andrew is on there every day chatting with our
wonderful coffee friends.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Right, I'm terrible, so sorry for now, but now yeah for.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
Now, and some announcements so special, wonderful, but special, wonderful
shout out to those coffee friends that I just mentioned,
and that is, of course the ghost of mister Joel Mari, Kiara,
Dustin t wander On, Brian, Jim Zidra, Kelsey, Kryptoni and
Jedi seventy nine, Ozzie, Ellie Lurk. I'm gonna call you
(43:59):
lurk going for because I've read one of your emails
and it was a variation, So I'm gonna call you
lark a Trey is light nine ten and.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Trust me, Baby Shadow.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I love it so much.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Update on Wayfair and West, so we are traveling at
least twice this year, so we will have although one
is South, the other one is definitely West.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
But what well Halloween Hard Knights.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
We could technically go to Hollywood Halloween Horror Knights, which
would be West, but I don't want to go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
So that's pretty sure. It's on fire right now.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah, it's not doing great like the Palisades.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
It's we're to be careful, Please be careful, say California friends,
be careful.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure it was like human started,
like some dumb shit happened, so that's.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Even more tragic.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
But anyway, yes, so hopefully we will be dropping some
Wayfair and West episodes along.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
With all of the other stuff happening this year.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
But as always, thank you guys to just yeah listening
to this show, given us time off for the holidays.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
And uh so yes, we'll be chatting with y'all next week.
That's all I got. Bye, SA
Getting dark.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Ah. No, I don't want to clap down. I don't
want to cut that part. Fuck it word. Let's go.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Hey everyone, and welcome to Wayfair and Strangers. It is
twenty twenty five. We haven't podcasted since the last year. Wow, listen,
I have to make myself laugh. My back hurts.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I talked about that over in coffee. I'm not repeating myself.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I hurt my back. I'm old and I hurt my back.
But I still exercised afterwards. And God bless tyl and all. Hallelujah.
So yeah, it's a miracle drug. Well be careful, though,
so be careful with everything. Yes, be careful with everything.
That's the lesson.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Or throw caution to the wind, whatever you want to do.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
God see your as indecisive as I am about No, no, no,
I'm just not.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I'm not here to tell anybody how to live their life.
You know, you want to if the if the recipe
calls for two clothes of garlic and you want to
toss in five or six, do it.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Do it.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
It's what I do.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I do love.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, do it, do it.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I'm gonna one hundred drop in sheave Palpatine just laying
it out for y'all from Star.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Wars right here, do it f YI, I have thank
you Joel.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
There's a Star Wars podcast coming from me and my
cousin at some point. What Yeah, very excited and uh,
more about that in the future. But hello everybody. It's
a little chaotic because we're just coming off of a
really wonderful break and we had a fantastic time together.
We did so many awesome things, and our Christmas was
(02:11):
special and wonderful, and our New Year's was also wonderful
and special. And I stole one of Bella's Christmas gifts
and used it all of New Year's Eve and it
was the mini like inte in stacks in stacks is
that what it is? In SATs the essentially a polaroid camera, Yeah,
(02:32):
but they're mini. Yeah, And I went through fucking two
and a half rolls of film on New Year's even.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It was wonderful.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
So maybe we'll post some of those pictures to the
stories because it was lovely and we were with my
sister and her family and yeah, we just yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Great times. Beat Saber was played. That was awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Now we're back. It's twenty twenty five. It's time to
continue and finish these emails, which overbreak. I finished the
entire master list, and we are caught up to the
most recent email that we've received. Unbelievable, and I am
so excited because that means there's an end of the line.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I see the light, go to the light.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, look for the light.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
It's the end of this document, and then we can
pick up Left Behind and then get into part two.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, it's probably just start Left Behind over again. At
this point, I forgot everything that happened.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Jesus, just go listen to our episode.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Oh yeah, that's good, Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I mean I theoretically I could unpublish that and then
republish it so the flow, like the feed is accurate.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I would unpublish it, but then republish it on the
same day we do the second episode. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, maybe I'll do that, just to have so.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Because people that are behind, people are writing, well, they're
all caught up now, because we get these emails that
are like I'm a little behind. It's like we get so,
you're sure we all caught up right now, right, But
anybody who happens to be behind, they'll just get a
nice they'll be able to go right right into it. Yep,
like that never changed. So there you go. And we're
(04:12):
giving you all the heads up too that that will
be happening. So if you're listening right now, left behind
might have disappeared from your feet. It will magically yea
here later. Don't relisten to it, or do re listen
to it, whatever you want to do.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I might re listen to it just so I can
remember what the fuck we talked about. But and I also,
I mean, I'm in the middle of re listening to
all of our episodes anyway because of the big Instagram
thing that is going to happen now that we're.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Back at it for real, for real. But yes, I'm excited.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And we saw the trailer for HBO Last of Us
on HBO.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And it said April. Yeah, April is for season two.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Which which might be the problem. It's gonna pose a
little bit of a problem because we have have a
vacation that will take up probably two of those Sundays,
So I'm gonna have to figure out like they're gonna
be delayed episodes obviously, and a shit fucked ton of
work for me when we get do.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
You want to record on the plane. I think that'd
be really fun. No, I could keep microphone.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Kiss or they would join in. I don't know. You
never know with.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
People on planes, Sir, sir, and seventeen B. You look
like you have something to say. It's our first live show,
and it's right. It's on Delta, Delta the fuck out
of here.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
We fly American.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
But I love that you just said seventeen B because
you know that I always choose row eighteen. That yes,
of course, so the person in front of us would
be seventeen Like what are you doing back then?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
So I don't know why, why he's the Duke of Wellington,
But what are you doing backflow? I shay, I declare.
And now it's gone somewhere else. It's gone down to
the Deep South. I don't know what the hell just happened.
In my brain I connected these two very disparate accents.
(06:19):
But here we are. I love it became Colonel Sanders
in like two seconds. Yeah fine, yeah, I was looking
for either way, looking for more pomp.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
But that's all right. So anyway, oh.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
My god, let's get into these emails, all right. So
I'm going to let you wait no, I'm going to
take this one.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Okay, because January eleventh, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, we're in.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
I mean, here we go. We're we're only two years off.
We're all just shy.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yes, but twenty twenty four barely had any towards the end.
So trust me when I tell you that there is
a giant gap at one point.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Get oh, there was a giant gap in our show.
So that that tracks. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
All right, I'm gonna go because.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Uh of what it says at the end, Billiam. Yes,
so this is from William, which is s rin. But
this is from January eleventh, from twenty twenty three. Good morning,
starting my typical Wednesday morning at work, listening to your podcast?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Uh, what is Army Dogs evil?
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Should you want to read this one?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Shit?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Keep going? No, No, we don't cut, we don't cut
ri dogs is what was written by liel dogs.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I was like regarding dogs, I was like, are we
talking about dogs like Popper?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
No, there's no asterisk or there's no colon. It's not
like regarding in reply to dogs. No, it's resident evil
dogs dogs.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Okay, okay, so sorry William, So Ari Dogs came up
and how infection started. I just want to share that
it depends which virus is being talked about. Been a while,
but if I remember correctly, T virus dogs were infected
by contaminated food, while others were created by a bow
bioorganic weapon or bowel. So just something I wanted to share,
(08:15):
being us as gamers always want to learn new things
about the games that we love.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Have a great day, Jack and Barb.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Who wait a minute, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, but we don't know when William started listening to
the podcast, so he didn't know, like if he.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Were still am I to believe that here's the deal? No,
I don't buy this. I think I'm being trolled by
mister Billy here because there is no way that Barb
talked about resident evil dogs. That's oh no way.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I didn't even think of that. I didn't think of that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, So have a great day to you two, Billiam.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Don't be mean, don't be mean.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, So, uh, Andrew, you can talk more about resident
evil dogs. However, it's interesting that Lern I've never played
these games, so I don't know that. But the T
virus were infected. The dogs were infected by contaminated food,
which turns out to be the provenance of Cordyceps CBI
in the Last of Us on HBO contaminated food, which
(09:26):
it was also contaminated food in the game two because
again referencing the newspaper in Joel's bathroom back on episode
one a million fucking years ago when he talked about
that it talks about food from South America being contaminated.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
They changed a little bit in.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
The show, but still, okay, it was a bigger deal
on the show, which.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Is why I talked about it here.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
So yeah, the this is interesting. I don't remember a
ton of the details about Resident Evil one, and it
gets weird quick when you get into later Resident Evils, Like,
you know, I don't think it's the spoilers say that
like by the eighth Resident Evil, there are like were wolves, right,
just very bizarre but not bad, just different. So the dogs.
(10:11):
So here's what I remember about the dogs in Resident
Evil is that I think what had happened is people
that were infected with the tea virus died, and then
the dogs began eating them because they had no food,
and then the dogs became infected because they ate you know,
(10:33):
infected flesh, whatever. So it could also have been the
food though there you know, there are a million different
ways to get infected by by tea virus. A lot
of the times people will just be infected by it,
you know, they're just like, here's a shot in the arm.
Good luck. It's times tiken away. You got to go
find the antidote or whatever, like, Okay, seems like it'd
(10:55):
be more immediate if it was just an injection versus
a bite. But hey, what the hell do I know.
I'm not a doctor. I am a doctor, but you
know what I'm saying, not a zombie doctor.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, sure, I mean I would say you're closer to
a zombie doctor than a real doctor to be personally
on you.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Know, potato patata.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Sure, sure, sure.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, that's it's interesting though. Yeah, it could be the
It could have been the food.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
And you know, Resident Evil one is a game almost
at this point entirely such a vibe. More than the
details were scant, Right, you could read a book and
you can, like in in game book, you know, you
would get lower through stuff you find, But I don't
know how many like very specific details there were beyond
(11:40):
like them talking about the T virus and the end
goal of that. So pretty interesting, though pretty interesting, right, all.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Right, so this is a little weird.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Weird.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
We did a thing.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
We covered William's first email from January eleventh, but then
he sent a longer email from January January eleventh of
twenty twenty three, talking about the potential future of The
Last of Us beyond Part two, including ideas for Part
three and so on and so forth. Andrew and I
did a literal like forty five minutes about what we
(12:15):
think and my ranting and raving and all that stuff.
And by the end of it, yes, it got very dark.
By the end of it, I felt pretty much on
the verge of tears from like anger to be perfectly honest,
because I do not want to talk about this stuff
until we are in the shit with the game, and
that is like, you know, two hundred hours from now.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So it's fair, William, we did cover your email.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
It's recorded, and it will be released literally in like
a year or two, so.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Hopefully two years late to read it, but it will
be one year from when we respond.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I know it sucks, but it's just like I'm like,
this is not right, Like this isn't the right time
to talk about this stuff. And I you know, I'm
I'm working hard on being authentic without alienating, and I
felt that my authenticity was a little too strong in
that to be perfectly honest.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
So okay, hey, look.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, we put that on the back burner and now
we're going to continue with emails still from twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
For this week's episode.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, and we took a little break and I have
the Tens machine on my back, which is I'm sitting
like Ramrod straight at my desk recording this podcast. So
it'll probably be a little shorter than anticipating anticipated, but yeah,
hopefully it's still good.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Okay, I'm taking over. This one's from Bell B. E. L. Yes,
which is interesting. That's the first person I've ever known
with that name.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
And look at the date jump from January eleventh to
June fifth.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
See, I told you there's gaps. We got gaps, got gaps.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
In the words and the wise words of Balboa. Yeah,
Bell writes, Hi, Jack and Andrew, it's Bell from Edinburgh here,
Thanks so much for reading my email out of the
first Bonus Show. Out on the first Bonus Show, I
meant to reply back about the pronunciation of and we
get the oh so I said it right Edinburgh in Edinburgh,
(14:27):
and about the month long performing arts festival that Andrew
correctly mentioned, but time got away from me. I was
super happy to hear that scottsman Derk had me covered
in the last show. So we are all good. A
lot of Scots. Yes, go y'all have delightful accents, much
like maybe we have delightful accents, but not to each
(14:49):
other and certainly not to our peers in this country.
As for calling our son Jesse, my wife knows that
there's a character called Jesse in The Lest of Us
Part two, but she reckons that we didn't name him
because of that. We just liked the name. I mean,
she could definitely believe that, but we know, yeah, oh yeah.
(15:14):
Also wanted to jump on and send a photo of
my tlue tattoo, which I got last year. How's your
sleeve coming along? Jack, would love to see a photo
when it's finished.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
All right, Well, yes, me too.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Asking you shall receive. I've been listening to Wayfaring Strangers
as well and loving it. You guys are awesome. Really
loved the Jeffrey Pierce episode I think I sent you
guys another email around the end of the TV series,
so you might be hearing from me again soon. I
hope you're both doing great. Keep up the awesome work.
Love Belle in Edinburgh. PS. Jesse says, hi that and
(15:45):
we have a photo little photo here of Jesse, of Jesse.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
He's so cute.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Vest great hat. Yeah, Oh, man's holding there.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Oh he found a good stick. You love when you
find a good stick.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah. And the tattoo. Love the tattoo.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
It's a little bit of a spin on Ellie's moth
and fern. So we have the moth with the firefly
logo in the mothhead.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, which is unique. I like that.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
And then we have the solid We have a solid
fern coming out from one angle and a kind of light,
lightly colored shaded fern from the other with an arrow
cutting through the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
It's it's wonderful.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, So thank you, yeah, thank you for sharing that,
and thank you for giving us our flowers like it
and from Edinburgh.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I love it so my god.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
We have to get to Scotland, that is, we have
to we have to go to Scotland.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
It's here I mean, here's the deal, you know, hot
take right. Sure, you know people talk about going to
that that air that you know, let's let's call it
the United Kingdom, right, and there are there are are
probably like nine places I would go before I went
(17:04):
to go to London. Oh god.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
And I'm not trying to be mean to our London listeners.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
No, no, no, I just you know, when I see
the photos of like a place like Edinburgh or you know,
people from my from my homeland, my motherland, Ireland, I
see photos of that, I'm like, oh my god, that exists.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, it's done.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
And I want to see that. You know, London lovely,
I'm sure, but also a city. I grew up in
a city, you know. Yeah, so I didn't grow up
in a city that old, but I grew up in
an old in a one of the oldest cities in
America at least. Sure that is. That's something. But yeah,
I would you know that sounds it's a beautiful place.
(17:46):
I would love to love to go there, so.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Well, hopefully sometime soon.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
But from Edinburgh that would be amazing. Oh my god,
let's fucking go.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
S gotjoy, ass gotjoy anyway, So thank you so much Belle,
and yeah, just fantastic pictures or fantastic tattoo and your
son is just so lovely so and now he's two
years older than that now, which is wild.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
So hope everyone's doing well. So after that wonderful email
from Scotland, we're moving to Chris p on June twentieth,
twenty twenty, and Chris says.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I think I figured it out.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Although this may not be news to anyone else, it
amazes me how the uncanny valley in the list of
US two is practically nonexistent, specifically with the main characters
during cutscene and near cutscene situations. Their eyes seem lifelike,
and that is insane. But I noticed that the eyeballs
dart back and forth in minuscule motions, back and forth,
(18:52):
even when focusing on something like a real person's would.
You're looking at something intently, but there is still movement
in your eyes a blank stare. I'm referring specifically to
the scene where Jesse pops up in the middle of
Ellie evading the WLF in Seattle, and he's asking about Dina.
When Ellie's talking to him, you can see her tiny
(19:12):
eye darts. It's amazing stuff, and he included a still
image of this exact moment with Ellie's eyes very wide
and I remember that scene well, continuing it makes her
seem real.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I love her. Wait did I just say that part
out loud?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Forget I said that, but ease, Nope, it's on It's
been immortalized on radio waves forever.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Chris.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yes, future generations will know about it.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Thanks hope all as well. Peace out, Chris.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
So, I mean, I agree. I don't have a ton
to add to this. I just completely agree. This game
is almost five years old. We're talking about Part two
and the Last of Us Part one. The remake is
now in the same class as Part two, and no
other game still looks this good to me.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Like it's just not there yet.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
And I watch you play a lot of games I see.
I mean, you play stuff that literally came out two
months ago, and I'm like, that shit could have been
ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Wow, okay, well, all right, let's not get too ahead
of ourselves. Holy shit, this is this is real war Star Wars.
Rate Outlaws Erasure I think is what you're referring to.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
And Vailguard, I know, two very different styles.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh yeah, but vail Guard is intentionally looks away. That's
an art that's an art direction thing. But here's what
I do. I am inclined to agree with you and
and Chris as well.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Sure that.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You know, there's a reason these games take so so
goddamn long. Yeah, and it's because of those details. Yeah right, yeah,
I'm trying to think of like this is going to
be like an impossible task to try. Well, oh no, no, no, okay,
here it is. We will have a game in twenty
twenty five, you know, knock on wood. Actually, if we're
to believe the reports that hit how the sausage is made,
(21:01):
if we're to believe financial forecasts or whatever, Grand Theft
Auto six will be coming out in four and a
half months, five months, maybe, right. I don't necessarily think,
but you know, you know, it's nice to know.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
It's good to have a goals.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Let's put on our optimism hat. Sure, Grand Theft Auto
six is from a studio that literally has all of
the money they are. Rockstar is constantly at the top
of the list of it's unfathomable how much money that
(21:46):
company makes from a game that's thirteen years old.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Fucking crazy.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
When Grand Theft Auto six comes out from a company
that has billions of dollars to spend. It will not
look this good. You can mark me down. Yeah, same
as that being true, it will look good, it will
not look this good. The only game that I've played
I can actually here's I will say this. The only
(22:14):
game that I've played in recent memory that has come
close to the fidelity of character fidelity of the Last
of Us is Alan Wake two.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Okay, I almost bought that. I almost bought it the
other day.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
That is because Remedy cares deeply about that and they
hire actual actors to do the performances. So much like
the mocap that happens for Naughty Dog games, Remedy is
working with similar technology, and you know, they have partnerships
with Epic for the unreal engine and stuff, so they're
(22:50):
pushing the technology to its limits. But beyond those two examples,
cannot think of another game that has this level of
like detail for characters. So it's it's tough out there.
I agree, So well done, Chris. If you like this, Chris,
(23:10):
you know, if fidelity is what you're going for, I
highly recommend Alan Wake two and you'll be like, well, Andrew,
don't have to play Alan Wake one. You do not.
In fact, it might make the experience worse if you
played Alan Wake one, because it's the character you play
as in the second game is coming in as an outsider,
(23:32):
and so she is finding out the story as if
it's a beautiful narrative device. She is learning the story
that you are learning if you're coming into the second game, okay,
and so all the details are filled in in a
way that makes a lot of sense. She's like, who
the hell where did Alan Wake go? You know, and
she's an FBI agent. So it's great. No spoilies, No,
(23:55):
that's it. That's all I'll say. Great. Main character's name
is Saga, so come on, that's pretty cool. What a
great name. So yeah, okay? On two?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, sure, Last of Us.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
The Last of Us too two?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Two of Us Part one and two. You keep forgetting
the remake.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I'm just saying that this email specifically referenced a scene
from the Last of Us Part two. Okay, all right.
On July twenty third, we get an email from aoin
p who says, hello, my name is Aowin, and then
a helpful pronunciation guide. My co host informs me that
(24:34):
Aoin is a Lord of the Rings character. Yes, but
it's also just a name that people can have.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Hell yeah, our win real life are winds. Not too
many legalists I haven't run.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Outside, well, none that I've met, at least outside of fiction.
I've never met or encountered in Aowin. So this is
this is great. You're you're now my favorite Aoin.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Yeah, I love it. Your parents are awesome.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
You're also my only ioin.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
But we get it.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
You set the bar very high. I am a big
t LU fan. I have watched the show, and when
the game finally came to PC, I started the game
as I am too poor for AVS five. Lol. None
of my friends have played the game. It makes me sad.
None of my friends have watched the show yet it
makes me sad. So listening to your podcast makes me happy.
(25:28):
You never talked about Ellie's horse Shimmer in your episodes.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
The fact that they added Shimmer as a fole was
so amazing. I have watched playthroughs of the second and
first game because I was still too poor for a
BS five. I can't wait for the second game to
come out onto PC. Love your podcast xoxo did we
not talk about Shimmer? That seems uncharacteristic of us but
(25:54):
me and a show. Oh that's probably yeah, that's probably right.
I don't know if we mentioned it because because.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Is this another last cast email?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
That's okay. I feel like this goes both ways because
this person Aowen, has played whether they played the game
and then watch the show or whatever, they found.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Us and however you found them? Have you found however
you found us? Thank you so much? And I love
your name like a Win's the goat. I am no man, Sorry,
I had to, but.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I just shimmer.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yes, I promise that when we are back on the
last cast covering season two, we will bring up Shimmer.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
I think Shimmer plays a bigger role.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
In Part two.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
In Part two, yes, absolutely, and I don't even think
like there was no again, we are trying very hard
to stay away from Part two talk in this extremely
wonky recording.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Night that we're having.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
You know, the the introduction of Shimmer was kind of
you had to read it through subtext. In Joel's house,
so Shimmer was obviously a horse given to Ellie. I
would assume from Joel because he had that picture in
his hallway, his second floor hallway outside of his bedroom
(27:22):
where it was him and Sarah on the left to
the picture that we all know, and then the carved eagle,
assuming again that Joel did that because that's what he
was into. And then on the other side of that
was Ellie and Joel and she was petting a horse
like the a horse head, So I'm assuming that that
was when she was gifted Shimmer.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, that seems the track.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, which side note, if anybody ever looks at that
fucking picture, it is so weird. Joel's forearm is like
skinnier than my forearm. It's the strangest shit. And it's
not like, oh that's Ellie's fo No, it's Joel's. Like
it's very bad. It looks like terrible photoshop. Trust me,
(28:07):
trust me.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Trust trust me, trust me.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Please go and look at it. It's fucking hilarious.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Anyways, look at it. Don't notice things, stop noticing things.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I can't help it. It's what I do, all right.
So yeah, yeah, I'm sorry that we didn't mention Shimmer.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
We will though, we will though. That's the thing. Yeah,
here's here's what happened here. Well, this is a great thing.
We can hedge both ways. This is so good. If
we didn't mention something, it's because we weren't ready to
mention it. But if but sure, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
That's a little good bit of a cop out. But
I'll roll with it.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Nope, we weren't ready to mention it. We were saving
it for important We're professionals, God damn it. So sure
Aoin number one Aoin in my heart?
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yes, also number one ao Win. Well can you be
tied with Aoin from Return of the King? Is that
specifically Return to the King because of her awesome hero moment.
I'm just curious, that's all. Okay, she's a bannie, she's
a bandie. I'm just that's all I'm saying. It's a
great name to have. All right, I'm moving forward. So
(29:17):
August twenty fourth of twenty twenty three. See, we're literally
almost at the end of the fucking year already. I
told you it's not gonna be ye.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
My name is Jeff.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
My name from Jeff s Hi, Jack and Andrew, just
checking in, hoping that all is okay with you and yours.
Haven't seen anything for some time on the podcast front,
and just wanted to make sure you're all good Saul.
What's your birthday recently? Jack, welcome to your fifth decade.
It's good, it's good, and I'm halfway through. No pressure
or complaints. Just wanted you to know people are thinking
(29:47):
of you and hoping you are well.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Jeff, thank you.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yes, I turned forty and twenty twenty three. I will
be turning forty two in August of twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Five, So.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Honestly, I'm loving my apart from the fact that, again
going back to the beginning of this episode, I opened
a window and hurt my back, So I don't love
that part of the forties where it's just like, if
you sneeze too hard, you could be hobbled for a week.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
You you know what.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
It's you know what did I say to you? You
have twenty two days until you are forty Andrew.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, but it's not a switch that flips, you see,
it's not Keep.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Telling yourself that, keep telling yourself that, Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
We'll see, yeah, we will, you will see, we will We'll.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
See anyway, Thank you so much, Jeff. Yes, we were
in the middle of one of our many hiatuses back there, one.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
Of our classic classic breaks. You know, yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
We are no longer in that in any of that nonsense.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
So yeah, just but I do. I do have to
say I appreciate you checking in like that. That is
a very big thing to me when people check in
with me in general, like if you're and it's not
because I'm seeking attention. It's not because I'm like, well,
why isn't nobody wondering where we're at? No, it's not
(31:13):
that at all. It's just it's like people out there
give a shit. That's what it and that's literally what
it is. And that's wonderful because I give a shit.
So thank you very much for that, and I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
You should read the next email I am.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
This is also from Jeff from April seventh, twenty twenty four,
right before our trip, and he says, Hi, Jack and Andrew.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Great to have you back. You were missed. Looking forward
to the next episode. Cheers Jeff.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah, and again we basically, oh this is twenty twenty four, babe.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
By the way, we are in twenty twenty four. We're
out of twenty three.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Well you say that, but if you scroll two emails down,
Oh yeah, beauty.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah again, I put names emails together. I don't do chronologically,
I do, but I don't. Yeah, So thank you, Jeff.
We were happy to be back. And then I know
we did I think two episodes that April, and then
we did one episode of Wayfair and West in the
beginning of May, and then we basically took a fucking
break until September.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
So it again. But I had all those problems and
issues last summer. We don't need to rehash it. We're back.
That's all that matters. So, yes, you guys are great.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
It's Jeff, jefflis one more we're doing, Jeff. We're gonna
finish the Jeff females. Yeah, just go all right here.
It is hi, Jack and Andrew. Once again. Wonderful to
have you back, Jef, Jeff, it's great to be back.
What I'm saying, I just wanted to put my take
out there for you on a point from the most
recent episode, which at that point was twenty five, you
(32:45):
went through the quote meat Ledger with David's group under
the assumption that it was all or mostly human personally.
I was never under that assumption. I had always thought
it was non human meat e G. Dear. I found
it very interesting that you assumed it was human I
already figured the group relied on deer et cetera, but
(33:05):
supplemented with human where possible. The fact that they were
so happy to get the deer from Ellie in the
first place seems to confirm this in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
The hanging bodies in the cooler that Joel encounters I
had always assumed were casualties from the group from Ellie's
encounter before being captured. I'm skeptical there would be enough
people moving about to support the group or to yield
some of the numbers in that ledger. Let me know
what you think. Cheers Jeff, And as a PostScript, keep
(33:35):
up the great work.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Uh. Yes, one hundred percent. I agree.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
And I remember reading this email back when it came
and I was like.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Oh my god, why did we go to the darkest
possible fucking scenario Because some of the pounds were like
fifty five hundred pounds or something, and I was like,
we were.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Like, that's a lot of fucking people, all people.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
No, And he brings up, Jeff, you bring up a great,
great point here with the the bodies that were hanging
in the meat locker were probably the people that Jolinellie
had killed that they were their men and took them back,
and that's how they treat their own fucking people, which
is just that's also sick.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
But like they honor them by creating a delicious meal
out of them.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
You don't need to string them up by their feet
with a fucking bag over their head, naked essentially, Like
that's just that's serial killer shit. So I fuck you David,
But like, yes, Jeff, this is a great email.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Thank you for one hundred percent correcting us.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
And I'm yeah, I'm not corrected.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Year how that's so many people like it's not a.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Bus tour come through recently.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Fucking bus tour. No, but just the logic, we just
went to the darkest. We were probably so hung up, honestly,
I can tell you right now when I was doing
those notes, I can guarantee you I was so hung
up on just the nastiness of David and his people
and what he wanted to do to Eliot, like the
whole thing, that my brain just went dark a scenario,
(35:14):
and that's where we landed without any room for other theories.
So thank you for thank you for putting that into
our focus again because a.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Little perspective, Yeah, I think. Here's what I yeah, it
makes it makes a lot of sense. What I'll say
is it seems like they're you know, there's a butcher. Clearly,
you know, they had the instruments of creating some sausages.
Let's say. Sure, and if you have a sausage in
real life you go to the supermarket. Right now, Most
of the time it is a mixture. Yeah, it's like
(35:45):
pork and turkey or chicken. You know, it's not all
of one thing. So you know, unless you're specifically seeking out,
like turkey meatballs, even Italian meatballs are not just beef.
You know, there's everything. So they put cost little human
in there. It's like, oh, we got venison and there's
a little human in there.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
The human in there, Jesus, that's I mean, if the
average person weighed two hundred pounds, Yeah, how.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Many people is that? Do the math please for me.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
It's easy. It's five per thousand pounds, So it's twenty
five twenties.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
You know, that's a lot of pies.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
We're talking about twenty seven people were at fifty five
hundred pounds.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
That's so many. That seems like more people than David had.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Now here's the thing also, right, yeah, twenty yeah. That
here's also the thing. You gotta work. You know, a
lot of that's going to be bone right, that's unfortunate.
A lot of it's inenable. So we're talking about fifty
five hundred pounds of meat. That's like fifty people at least.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Now, all right, Oh my god, I'm done. I'm tapping out.
We've had that's that's that's it. That's it.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
We did it, what we've fucking mathed it?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Oh god, ew all right, I gotta move on. Jeff, Jeff,
thank you for making this so dark. Oh, man's getting dark?
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, pretty creepy. Hello, Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Okay, so, yes, this show was something fucking else. By
the time you're listening to this show, it might be
forty five minutes long, but we are well over the
two hour mark because of just some fuck ups that
we've had, some emails that we recorded that were not
stop it.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
This was such a hot mess. This whole day for
me was just a hot boss.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
I'm done, I am Dutch. Vanderlyn and I have a
planned okay, Arthur, Arthur, Oh, there's another game that actually
has a pretty high level of fidelity. The reduption.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah, but it's now, it's now seven years old. It'll
be seven years old in October.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Sure, but it's most of us, not last of us,
but good. But not last of us, but good. I
would love that's what GTA six is going to look like,
mark my words, just a little bit better than that.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
I'm so glad. Oh god, this is such a hot take.
I'm sorry for everyone listening. I'm so glad. I don't
know a single fuck about Grand Theft Audio games.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
You've never PLAYID audio.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I know, first of all, you don't even know what.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yes, I did play. I played for hours the first
game or five five.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
I literally I did like two or three missions and
then the one just got stuck and it was like
I did a like a glitch, and I googled it. It
was like, well, you should probably restart the game, and
I was like, get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
So I just like playing a Rock Star game.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I ran around and just did ach of dumb shit,
and I was like, this gets boring really quick.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Here's what I'll say. Listen, just as a thing. I know,
we're running along when it comes out. Just you got
to be there on day one. It's different. It hits different.
You played it like ten years after it came it
of course it's not going to be the same. We'll see, look,
you know, we'll see it might not be It might
(39:27):
for you that's going to be. Yeah, maybe maybe it
won't hit the same, you know, maybe it'll just be
like I don't like this, but wait until the Game
of the Year and then be like, well, I guess
I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
I mean, I disagree with the Game of the Year
almost every fucking year, so that means nothing. But like, yeah,
I just again, it was hilarious to run around and
smash cars and trucks and planes and whatever else into shit.
But then I'm like, I just.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I'm bored.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
There is a hilarity to.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
The missions, I understand, but I do.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Couldn't even get that far because it glitched out of me,
and I was like, I don't like this game enough
to replay all this.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
It was the funniest happening when we when I think
it was probably during the COVID when COVID first struck,
we were playing Grand theft Ato five, you know, my
group of people's and you know, online, and my buddy
Tristan decided to join US and the first mission. The
(40:27):
first mission in Grand Theft Auto Online is go buy
a pair of pants, and he simply could not do it,
like the game would not let him do it, and
he logged out, deleted the game, re downloaded the game,
logged back in same mission, couldn't buy pants. So that
(40:47):
is the furthest that Tristan has ever gotten in Grand
Theft Auto five Online, the first mission. It's stupid and
he again, that's just Rockstar. I don't know what to
tell you. Sometimes you're not lucky. Uh but yeah, that
was maybe the worst twenty dollars he's ever spent twenty dollars.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
God, so good, Yeah, so good.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
Anyway, moving on, So that's going to be our show
today is chaotic and well by the time everyone listens
to this, it will not be chaotic.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
The smoothest smooth show, so.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Smooth and uh yeah, more more coming next week with
another email show.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
But we are catching up fast.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
We're already in twenty twenty four, so yes, and then
some stuff for the Last of Us on HBO has
been released a trailer. It is confirmed to come out
in April of twenty twenty five. So I think we
not think we are going to do an episode over
on there, so just jumping ahead a little bit.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
If you would like to follow our.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
Other show, you can do that just by searching the
last cast on all of your podcast listener, platform provider places. So,
but if you like to follow us on some social media,
I'm mostly active. I'm like infrequently active but sometimes active
over on Instagram, and that is Teelu Podcasts. We do
(42:10):
have a Blue Sky at Telu podcast if you'd like
to be on a future email show. Reminder, once we
do get caught up to all of the emails from
the end of twenty twenty four, we will be just
reading emails at the start of regular shows going forward
with us, or the or the end of the show,
or maybe it'll be a mid show break whatever we
end up doing. All of the emails will be delivered
(42:33):
to y'all on time instead of stockpiled. So if you
want to be a part of that teelupodcast at gmail
dot com, if you like to sign up over on
our coffee to get a shit ton of extra episodes
in the way of pre and post show. Some pictures
of Andrew and I and our family from Christmas, our
adventures to New York, although I think I put them
(42:56):
as public so you could just check them out if
you want. But we have Wayfair and book Club starting
up probably if I had to estimate, in about a month,
and Andrew will be back with a What's Andrew Gaming
slash Wayfaring Gaming and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
We landed on wop uh.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
You can do that over at coffee which is ko
dash Fi dot com slash Telu podcast and yeah, just
hang out with us over there.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
Which also gives you access to the Discord.
Speaker 3 (43:27):
And Andrew is on there every day chatting with our
wonderful coffee friends.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Right, I'm terrible, so sorry for now, but now yeah for.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
Now, and some announcements so special, wonderful, but special, wonderful
shout out to those coffee friends that I just mentioned,
and that is, of course the ghost of mister Joel Mari, Kiara,
Dustin t wander On, Brian, Jim Zidra, Kelsey, Kryptoni and
Jedi seventy nine, Ozzie, Ellie Lurk. I'm gonna call you
(43:59):
lurk going for because I've read one of your emails
and it was a variation, So I'm gonna call you
lark a Trey is light nine ten and.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Trust me, Baby Shadow.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I love it so much.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Update on Wayfair and West, so we are traveling at
least twice this year, so we will have although one
is South, the other one is definitely West.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
But what well Halloween Hard Knights.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
We could technically go to Hollywood Halloween Horror Knights, which
would be West, but I don't want to go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
So that's pretty sure. It's on fire right now.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah, it's not doing great like the Palisades.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
It's we're to be careful, Please be careful, say California friends,
be careful.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure it was like human started,
like some dumb shit happened, so that's.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
Even more tragic.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
But anyway, yes, so hopefully we will be dropping some
Wayfair and West episodes along.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
With all of the other stuff happening this year.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
But as always, thank you guys to just yeah listening
to this show, given us time off for the holidays.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
And uh so yes, we'll be chatting with y'all next week.
That's all I got. Bye, SA
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