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April 18, 2025 • 49 mins
HelllOOOOO! We dive headfirst into more TLOU this week via your wonderful emails and tackle not one, not two but three* and have quite the journey (hint: we are exhausted so we hope you revel in the chaos). Listen now to hear snippets that may or may not relate to Part II, The Last of Us on HBO and ...weed? 👀

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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Well, hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of Wayfair
and Strangers. As always you are, you're listening to me
Jack and I'm always joined by Andrew and Joey Pride.
Oh see, we don't have a soundboard with the last cast,

(00:48):
and it shows.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
HBO get angry when you take their sounds and their photos.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Anger ensues.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, I like it. We could, you know, while you're
doing the notes, if you were like I would like
to play this clip, but you'd have to note it
down like timestamp in the show, then I can go
ahead and pull it. You know, it's possible, just a
little little more coordination, but I'm happy to do it.
There no live soundboard. I don't think it doesn't make

(01:21):
a lot of sense. There's not a lot of catchphrases
in the show. These weren't necessarily catchphrases until we made
them into catchphrase.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Say there it is.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
So maybe there's opportunities right in and let us know.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, there's opportunities everywhere for Last of Us stuff and yeah,
so I guess oh I do. But right out of
the gate, I want to just affirm everyone that even
though this episode is coming a little later than anticipated,
like Thursday is always the day that I shoot for

(02:00):
Wayfair and strangers. In my heart of hearts, I'm always
like I can do this, but sometimes it's Friday. And
with the kerfuffle bullshit we dealt with with the last
cast recording and basically, I mean we ended up recording
about seven hours worth of podcasting because half of it
was trash and we had to redo it. It was

(02:21):
a whole thing, and because of that, it just delayed
the wayfar and recording. And thus here we are. But
I'm not We're not disappearing for the the follow of
the next six weeks. We're not taking a break, none
of that stuff. I am balanced. We have this shit
figured out. Yeah, I mean, I mean I'll disappear spiritually,

(02:44):
probably I will go inward, but you know, I'll still
be here every week spiritually. I mean, I'm half awake
right now, and I actually like closed my eyes several
times just like talking, I'm begun nodding off.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
We feared.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Joe Joel anyway, So yeah, that's uh, that's it's been
a it's been a very.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Week. Yes, we I don't know if you recall this
from The Shining, the movie The Shining, do you do
you remember that movie The Shining me. Yes, yeah, okay,
I'm just asking talking.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
To I was like, well, because I love Stephen King,
and I'm like, yeah, the movie The Shining.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
He goes up to the bartender mm hmm, and he's
and the bartender tells him, you've always been at the
Overlook Hotel. Yeah, And then he looks at the photo
on the wall and he and and and he's in it.
He's right up front. I've always talked about the Last
of Us.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yes, that's kind of how it feels a little bit
this we and that's okay. It'll be better. Next week
will be more balanced. It'll be fine. We do have
a concert this weekend and a date over my sister's house,
and then my mom's coming up for Easter, so I
don't think we're going to be able to record until

(04:13):
like Monday, but that's fine.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
I'd like to just.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Get another one in, even if it's a thirty minute episode,
you know, just something something, what's the shortest episode we
can record.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
That's what I want to do. We should release a
two minute episode.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
That's called a teaser trailer.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, we should release trailers for our email episodes. Stop
coming up on an email episode near you. Yeah, we
have a question from Anna Lynn by.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Stay tuned next week.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Done.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
Wow, you pulled that name right out. But we're doing
the January email by Sarah Jay first today.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
I know, I was just scrolling around. I was scrolling around. No,
I was scrolling around for like a fun like anelin
is wow fun. I'm not saying no, no shade from
Sarah Jy. I'm just saying analin b. It's just there's
a flow to that, a very lyrical, comedic flow.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Okay, well, yeah, trust me, I do. Let's let's get
into this. Let's read some emails. So I'm going to
go first. Thank you, Thank you Elly, I needed that.
This email is from Sarah Jay from January twenty fourth,
twenty twenty five, so not even four months ago, look

(05:39):
at all.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Right, Well we're almost in. Okay, let's let's bring it home.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, thank you so much for reading my email on air.
I love your podcast so much. Since I last sorry,
since I last emailed you, I got my last of
us leave done. And of course I still listen while
I work. And also Sarah sent in pictures that are
attached to the end of this email and Sarah, if

(06:04):
you are comfortable with us sharing one of those all
of those, let us know, because I would love to
give people the visual of just how fucking awesome your
sleeve is.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I like the one that is it's Ellie and the
kind of a city scape you know, it's inside of
the arm. That's really cool. I mean this is the
last of Us one and two. It looks like tattoo. Yeah,
it's both. It's both games, which is really really neat.
So that's super cool.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah. I do love infected in I don't love infected tattoos.
Excuse me, that's a totally different thing. We do not
want infected.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Tattoos that has become infected, but of an infected.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yes, that's what we love. Yeah, sure I would probably
get I would get a stalker I think I think
I would get a stalker tattoo on some part of
my arm. Next month is the next edition into my
tat the Last of Us leave, and it will be
an astronaut similar to the one in Ellie's garage. So

(07:07):
I'm doing less. Everybody knows that Ellie loves space and
has that astronaut, but it's not like the firefly symbol
or the moth and fern, which of course I have already,
but like you know what I mean, Like, it's not
you're going obscure, You're going trying to go the deep cuts. Yeah,
I'm trying to go a little obscure for my tattoo.
So some people might be like, I don't really think

(07:30):
that's the last one had hair, but it is.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Anyway they become, they'll become Jennifer Coolers tootoo at all.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Oh look at your arm. That that hat to have hurt, Han,
what have you done? Yeah, So that this is the
vibe that you're you're all are working with because.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
The case I'm going to bed.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
That's Oh my gosh, thank you for listening to us
at work. Sera, let's get back to your email. I
was just about to start reading the second paragraph when
I realized that this is predominantly a Last of Us
Part two email. So, Sarah, if we're going to continue
reading it, because we are too deep into this podcast

(08:19):
to like cut everything, I'm not doing it. I'm not
doing it again after this week.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
No more editing, no more editing, no more editing.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
So we're going to continue, but if there are some
things that we don't touch on in great detail. I'm
going to flag this and put it in the pile
with part two to circle back, just so you know that,
like we don't just like gloss over this and don't
give you the time of day because yeah, you know us,
you know.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
So this is just so you could tell everyone that
you work with they're talking about me. This is about
my email. Guys, gather around, listen, what is the last
of us? Go away, Todd, go back to work, Todd.
You don't get the listd shut up, Todd.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
So there are odds we love you, not that Todd, though.
But there are a couple of things from part two
that I want to comment on. And this is back
to Sarah's email. The note that you get from the
semi before you enter the grocery store had a note
about a guy's sister losing feeling in her feet or
something like that. Like any media I have seen, no

(09:24):
one understands how diabetes works. I only know because I
have been Type one since nineteen ninety seven, so I'm
just going off of my own experience. I would die
from diabetic keto acidosis before I lost feeling in my feet.
I would only last maybe three days. Without insulin, and
the last two days I'd be so weak, I wouldn't

(09:45):
be able to move, and I'd be puking NonStop. Last
time I went through diabetic keto acidosis, I was so
dehydrated they had to use a machine to find my veins.
Once the process starts, without medical intervention, you die. Also,
insulin is only good for roughly two years, and that's
if it's kept refrigerated or at least at room temperature.

(10:08):
I think if it freezes, the vile breaks. If high
blood sugar didn't kill me, my low blood sugar would
all that running and lack of food might get to
me first. Would I survive? Yes, I would die. Listen,
I'm only laughing because of the You threw it back
to a phrase on our show, and I love that

(10:30):
so much. So good, But holy shit, that's terrifying.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, oh boy, wow.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
And these are definitely the this see this. I'm glad
we continued on with this email because while this was
specific the note specific to Part two, I think the
conversations going back to some things we talked about in
the last of Us Part one, specifically about survivability and
like people with glasses, people with chronic illnesses or disabilities,

(11:01):
just things like that. Like that's a conversation that I
think a lot of people just throw the word Darwinism
at and it's just like, oh, well fuck me then,
like you know, and that's a terrible, terrible consideration. Yeah,
but this really is so detrimental. And that's heartbreaking because
I feel like, if you follow the progression of what

(11:22):
Sarah's saying here, the people that fit that same demographic
would not do well.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
I don't. I literally don't know how that how someone
like Sarah could survive in that instance, because again, the
medicine has to be kept cold. If it freezes, the
vile breaks, it's trash, it goes bad after a certain
amount of time. There are no factories still making this stuff. However,

(11:51):
I guess the only glimmer of hope would be a
fedra That would be it can you remember you back?
And now I'm going to throw the last of us
on HBO in here for a brief second. But talking
about in episode one of season one, when Joel is
talking to the federal officer and we find out that
down in Atlanta, the Atlanta Qus, that's where they make

(12:15):
pills and bullets. So it's like there is still some
sort of manufacturing happening. And I would like to believe,
and this might be very just full of a took,
but I would like to believe that somebody, somebody would
be thinking about other somebodies who are born with type

(12:37):
two diabetes or have developed type one. Excuse me, it's.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Probably somebody who has it.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
That's The's the only way, that's the only way that
this would happen. The continuation of and manufacturing of medicines
that will literally keep and keep people alive and save lives.
Because nobody cares about an issue deeper than the person
who experienced is it themselves themselves? And then that's shallow

(13:04):
and selfish and vain to say. But I mean, you know,
I can list a bunch of versions of that to
solidify it, but I think we all know, living in
twenty twenty five, that that is majority the truth.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, so anyway, the yes, I would die definitely. Just
you went from you took me from oh my god,
I'm very scared too. That was funny. That's a good throwback,
so thank you, Sarah. Continuing, I also have some thoughts
on eugenes grow I've probably been thinking too much about it.

(13:40):
I do think it's possible, but he would definitely need
help from the people in charge of the gardens for
nutrients and water. It takes a lot of water to
grow the clones and flower plants need different light times,
which is maybe why he might have had blankets hanging
up to try to block some of the light. The blankets, though,
would not be enough, and Joel Aka, the contractor, could

(14:03):
have built some walls to separate the light.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Better.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Humidity is also needed, which I saw some fans, although
not enough, but nothing. For humidity to dry and cure,
plants need to be in a different room that is
cooler and dark. Maybe he was in the process of
hanging to dry in another room before he passed. Also,
the plants need support while they grow. I've seen buds
get so big that they snap the branch they are on.

(14:29):
Most please send them to us. I'm kind of kidding,
not at all. Most grows use a net to support plants,
but at least a steak with some ties would do.
I'm sure he got supplies while in Denver. Recreational weed
became legal in Colorado in twenty twelve, but places were
doing medical before that. I do wonder why he chose

(14:51):
the library and not his place in Jackson. Weed could
be used to trade and they have alcohol, so why
not weed. I guess the stigma followed, or maybe having
a food shortage and munchies is not a good idea. Man,
You are really good with wrapping up a paragraph and
making me laugh, Sarah.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
That's true, that's true, really good at that.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
I also do not recommend the gas mask bong. It
burns so bad and panic set in when I couldn't
get it off. Oh my god, you fucking tried it?
Do you have pictures? Of course I recommend I recommend
hot boxing, but not with a gas mask. Thank you
guys for the podcast, and I can't wait to hear
part two, Sarah Jay. Part two is a coming. It's

(15:34):
a coming, So let let's talk.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
About Sarah fat Jay am I right, let's go spoke
them if.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
You got them jesus, yeah, I I full transparency. I
have no knowledge about what it takes to grow basically,
even like regular plants. That's that's Andrew takes care of
all the plant babies in our house. You are but when,
but when we are able to listen I have plans.

(16:04):
I have big ass garden plans in a greenhouse that's
built of brick but with a glass. I have the
whole thing, Okay, and then and then I'll grow food.
I want to grow food. That's what I want to grow,
not plants.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Food.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Wow, I'm just I love our plans.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
A lot of our planned listeners out there. I apologize, Okay.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
No, I love plants, but I just don't under.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
It's there's nothing I'm gonna be asked with you plants,
not hard dirt, water and sunshine or not sunshine.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
I know, although we have we have some magic with
our house and our front window that just our plants
kick fucking ass. Like we literally have award winning plants
that people have told us. And my sister and mother
are forever jealous of just held this brag or anything.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
But you know, my ginsing ficus is or will be
or will soon be award winning. So you know, for real,
it's enormous. Quite a little tree.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, in the not so little way. All that to
say thank you for just like breaking down the knowledge
of what it takes to grow marijuana, and yeah, the
just the ins and outs of that. And Sarah actually
attached pictures of marijuana plants being grown and maintained.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
And maybe these are Sarah's who knows if.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
So, I'm pretty sure they are because Sarah's previous email
talked about she worked.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah, no, I'm saying, like her personal status.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
About the one thing that I'll note and again, we're
going to keep a pretty fair separation of church and state.
But we saw on the show that weed is indeed
a bartering mechanism. Yeah, so this was interesting because this
was written in by Sarah months ago, months before the show.

(17:58):
So called it well done, Sarah.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, yeah, give yourself a pat on the back. You
definitely wrote that plot line into existence and you should
feel proud of that. Yeah, because definitely does your email
to Craig So, could you imagine having Craig ma it's
probably Craig Mason at gmail dot com.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
But it's Craig Atmazon dot com.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
You would be shocked how many people's email addresses. Oh,
I know, just as just as a side tangent. I
you know, you know, I have a comedian that I
do some social media posts for. She's an actress and
a comedian, and you know her I won't say I'm
not I'm not here to you know, rat anybody out
or anything. But I have many of her logins and passwords,

(18:46):
and her email address is basically just it's like name,
just full name and then like single number at gmail
dot com. Yeah, so she couldn't even get the first
you know, there was like one in line before her
that got the.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Or that was hers, but she forgot the password.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, situation, one of those situations. That's why my aunt
has nine Facebook accounts, I understand.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Yeah, oh yes, same, same, But Okay, to get off
that and back to Sarah's email. Apart from weed being
used as a barter system on the show, it is
weird that they didn't use it in part two, and
it still kind of was a little tabooy even the
way that Ellie and Dina kind of talk about that
a little bit, like when they're down there. It was

(19:35):
always just kind of like that kind of vibe, which
is a little silly, you know, but I think because
like for example, Andrew and I live in Pennsylvania and
we are one of the archaic states that just fucking
refuses to legalize it.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
God damn Quakers.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
It's so stupid, like the fact that Sarah mentioned here
that Colorado in twenty twelve legalized it twenty two. That's
thirteen fucking years ago, and in Pennsylvania we are still like,
you know, I just think that won't someone think of
the child? Yeah, shut the fun up.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
We're trying. The taxes will go to the schools.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
You fucking dunce exactly.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
It's just it's not going to be a soap bux
here on legalizing it. All I'm gonna say is New
Jersey did it, which is a real pack on Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
So we are literally surrounded on all sides minus I believe,
minus West Virginia. Every state around US has it legalized.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Jersey, Delaware for sure, Merland maybe nuts.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
I don't know about Ohio.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
We have it.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
We haven't met medicinally, right, you can get if you
have a medical card, you can get it. There are
dispensaries even near us. There are many in Philadelphia. But
you can't just walk into a dispensary and just be
like I am just getting something to relax tonight.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
No, yeah, no loud, which is just it's ridiculous. It's
so yeah, it's silly. And this is coming from someone
who was when you and I first started dating. I
was so anti weed that I remember one night you
were having like a party at your house and we
were all hanging out and you like disappeared for like
twenty minutes or whatever, and you came back and I

(21:22):
was like, did you just fucking smoke weed or whatever?
And you were like, well, yeah, you know, so and
so brought and I think I left. I was like,
I did that, Like I was such a dork back then,
and and oh, listen, I'm not trying to alienate anyone.
You are allowed to have obviously, you're allowed to have
your opinions on it. You're not a dork.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
We love. A long part of my life I was
straight edge, so you know, I you know, you.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Know, Oh I was thirty seven the first time I
ever tried it, just CBD and then THHC like six
months after the fact.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
It's never too late, you know, It's never too late
to live your dreams.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
So come on, Pennsylvania, you get your ass in gear.
But Sarah, thank you so much for your email and
writing in and we had a good time with that
and I love your pictures and let us know if
we are allowed to share any part of your tattoo
publicly because I would absolutely love everyone to see that
because it's bad ass.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, actually done? Hell yeah, say that's what I say. Yeah,
what's next? An Yeah, you're goddamn right. All right, Here
we go January twenty, just two days after Sarah, Sarah
writes in here we go. Hello there, that's a fun

(22:43):
way to open an email. Time is a weird soup.
It feels like I blinked in it and then suddenly
had only been lurking for like two years. Whoops. Rest assured.
I've still been enjoying the ride, though. It's always exciting
when I see a new episode pop up. Thanks for
the great conversations. In no particular order, some assorted thoughts.

(23:05):
The Joel sound bites bring me so much joy every time.
I'm so glad they're a regular occurrence.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Nicely done. God, they're the best there is every.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Joel sound bite at once. So there you go, Jack.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
I feel very seen that someone else out there doesn't
love the idea of getting firefly merch. I understand why.
The symbol cool there. Hey, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
I'm cool with the firefly stuff. Okay, guys, I understand
why the symbol is an easy thing to throw on
to make something clearly Telu, but I am way too
critical of the fireflies to make them one way of

(23:46):
publicly showing my tea lou love.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, not happening. Sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I'm reading here. I know in the same vein. I
was a little baffled seeing the seraphyte jacket on the
PlayStation store. I'm sure there's an audience somewhere, but I
sure can't relate to coming away from Part two and
intentionally wanting to model a seraphyte.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Hold on, I gotta talking about this.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
Here's the thing, here's the thing. I completely agree with you,
Adel because who is buying this? Who played the last
And maybe I am passing a little judgment here on it.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Here I've said, who played the last of Us Part
two and went through the whole whistle shit with the seraphyights,
And they're like, you know what, that's that's my shit.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
They're my guys, guys.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
That's where I'm gonna take my stand. I'm a seraphyte.
It's it's it boggles my mind, and I very much
paid ninety dollars for the fucking new controller from the
Last of Us.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Themed tire fly prominently on it.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
It sure does, along with the moth and the WLF Wolfhead.
But like it is, I'm gonna I'm gonna say something
brave yet controversial or controversial.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
People who do those things often announced that they're about
to do it, So let's go.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
This is this episode. But the design is terrible. It
is not good the official merch. There have been maybe
like four or five things where I'm like, oh my god,
I am If I don't get that, I will literally
muck duck someone. But overall I do not like the

(25:43):
merch and it makes me question everything. But really, what
are the restrictions that Sony or Naughty Dog or whoever
has the boot on the heel of these designers. What
restrictions are they working with that these designs are so
fucking boring, Like, what are we doing here? It just

(26:07):
it doesn't make any fucking sense to me. There are
so many directions that they could have gone for a
Last of Us themed controller, and that's what they did.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Well, so going back to this seraphite jacket, I had
never even seen this, so I just did a Google
search for it real quick, and it's like the maroon one,
like the dark red like that one. Yeah, it's just
like a rain that's just like a raincoat. It looks
like it's just like a regular raincoat. But it does
say the lst of US Part two on it, which
is the least interesting thing imaginable. It's the only thing.

(26:40):
It's like, I don't know why they have to. We've
talked about this in great detail in the Merch channel
on our discord, but it's just like, don't put that
on there, like yeah, and like let people who know know, you.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
It's the thing that I love the most about my
Fallout hoodie is that it literally just has the colors
and it says one to eleven and nowhere on it
except the tag on the inside does it say Fallout.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah. There's there's a certain way to brand something without
actually branding the thing with the property's name.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
This is generic this if you didn't if this didn't
say the last of this serifit jacket. Specifically, if this
didn't say the last of US Part two, I wouldn't
look at that and be like, oh my god, that's
what the serophytes were, because frankly, I've forgotten what they've
worn altogether, so they're not meant to stand out. They
wear things in service of blending in.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Do you think so?

Speaker 1 (27:41):
I don't know, it's just boring. It's a it's a
weird idea to merch. Why don't we make rattler merch
while we're at it? Like, what the fuck I'm in
for the rat? I mean I do?

Speaker 3 (27:55):
I like?

Speaker 1 (27:56):
So rock Love is a is a brand that I've
from previously, like you know, fuck it, I don't know,
five to ten years ago, with Star Wars stuff and
things like that. So I really like rock Love's brand.
But they have a pair of firefly earrings absolutely not,
a fucking firefly pendant for one hundred and thirty five dollars,

(28:17):
absolutely not. And then we have Dina's Hamsab bracelet, which
is nice. But I don't understand what we're doing here,
Like do they need submission? Like idea submissions because I
have a lot and I'm not going to give it
away for free, so I'm not gonna say it here.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
But like, yeah, if you're good at something, never do
it free.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, I just it boggles my mind, and I feel
a little disappointed. I mean, I bought the last of
US cassette tape ornament. That is a great fucking merch drop.
It is still it would hung on our tree at Christmas.
I took it off the tree and now it's on
the last of us shelf all year round. That's how
you fucking do merch where you want people to be like,

(28:59):
I want to wear that all the time. I want
to see this all the time. It's a part of
my personality all the time, all the time. Yeah, anyway, okay,
fair enough.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
On a music note related to Part one and the show,
I don't one hundred percent remember how much. Maybe this
already came up, but I'd be interested to hear any
thoughts on what feelings the scenes with all gone parentheses
no escape playing over brought up from my first play
through of Part one. I vividly remember the feeling of

(29:31):
running out of the hospital and a sense of desperation
definitely shared with Joel of Okay, I have Ellie and
now I need to get her out to safety. Layered
on top of how moving and hauntingly beautiful that song
is on replays, it still hits me every time and
even more after realizing it also plays during Sarah's death,

(29:52):
so in the game it intentionally it's intentionally felt full
circle and with the highs and lows of Joel getting
the chance to save his daughter this time. Hence why
it threw me for a little bit when the song
was used over the hospital slaughter in the show and
made me wonder if any of the original intentions of
using All Gone over the hospital run were more to

(30:13):
convey a sense of tragedy in quote unquote dooming the world.
I'm still sticking with my original interpretation for the game,
but did find the different use of the song to
be a fascinating choice. There's more, but let's you know,
we can break this part down.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah, Annalyn, I'm with you. I felt that that was
misplaced too. I'm sure they're trying to go if I
had to guess why they made that change, because I
agree when you think of Sarah's death and then when
you think of Joel saving Ellie, those bookends are perfect,

(30:53):
seamless transition when put together. But with the show, my
only guess is that they were looking far, far ahead
beyond just Joel is removing any and all chance of
a cure to what happens with Abby and then Joel

(31:14):
and then Ellie's quest and Tommy's Like I feel like
they were looking a little bit farther down the road
and trying not to just bookend the beginning and end
of the season.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah, you're typing. I was just looking. I was just
looking something up here.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
I'm wondering if the answer, insofar as how it was
used in the television show is just much more is
just much more of a boring answer, and that being
the way that they charge money to license music for
television and films is so different than video games that

(31:53):
they were like, well, we could, we could do it,
we could do it once. You know, you got to
pay gus X amount of money to do it for television.
And I'm not talking about Gus. You know, it's not
money that goes right into his pocket. It's like label,
his producer, all that people on the top line right
when they're doing it at a video game level versus
a major Hollywood level production. And I would count the

(32:17):
show in that prestige television category. It's just the business
is it's so boring, you know, So maybe it's that
I tend to agree with you with the game interpretation
of it, where it becomes a nice full circle moment.
That makes a lot of sense considering that they probably

(32:40):
had no intention at the time at least of making
a sequel to this game, and so that bookends things
beautifully in my estimation. So it tells a lot about
Joel's story, and then it tells a lot about Joel
and Ellie's story.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, I agree, and I think as much much as
we would have loved to have that same bookend, that's
not like the expectation isn't oh, are we going to
have a season two? It's when the season two come out.
So between licensing rules and the timeline of the TV
show and the money machine that runs everything at the

(33:20):
heart of it, you have to do what is best
for the bottom line.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
That's it more.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Times more often than not, and that sucks.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
I do like thinking about this in a game and
series that have such a high priority on music, I
think that what the television show chose to do was
license some pretty big songs. Yeah, and they were all,
in my opinion, really good. I agree the soundtrack and

(33:52):
obviously the score. It goes without saying the score is incredible,
but the soundtrack to season one really good, Yes, really good.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
So yeah, that's what I think they did.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
They were like, we're gonna we have X amount of
money for music, and this is where we're going to
choose to spend it.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
So there it is.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah, there it is.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Well, there we go.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Speaking of the show, it's not my first rodeo knowing
what comes ahead with an adaptation, but it sure is
a weird feeling of being slightly cursed with knowledge. In
conversation with people who casually got into Tilu from the show,
it's such a debate for whether to diplomatically warn them
to brace themselves or to just let the experience happen.
Thank goodness for Telu fans bases to be around people

(34:37):
who understand what we're in for.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
That's the most difficult thing with the last cast because
and I guess that this is this is like the
last cast after Dark, where I'm going to just kind
of reveal a little bit. Oh no, not that kind
of oh we.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Said after dark we were talking about hard driels earlier.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
God, please go listen to the episode. Want to understand
that joke, please. But the hardest part about the last
Kist is not reacting too in and I we'll leave
it at this to the introduction of Abby, because I
have to pretend like I do not know what the
fuck that bitch is gonna do.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Well, that's the thing is, And if I may, you may,
I think we know what she's going to do. But
the question is how and when? How? When and if
the why has changed? I don't know, Like I.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Don't think the why has changed.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
I think not, but I'm saying, yeah, like how and
in what capacity and why? You know, Like that's that's all.
That's all I'll say. There is like it was. It's
kind of like being a person who read the Walking
Dead trade paperbacks and then watched the show, where you're like,
I'm watching this.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
And I'm like, this is kind of like what I read.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
But Daryl wasn't there at all ever, and that person died,
and that person died, but this person they're still alive,
and this person who's alive died like in the first book.
So you're like, Okay, So I'm not saying that The
Last of Us has deviated that far from the source

(36:34):
material far now, but they have already changed things substantially
enough to give me pause to be like, this is
not the story.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
This is not the story that I'm that I know.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Yeah, so yeah, which is, and I like that I'm
if for nothing else, then I'm not bored, you know
what I'm saying. If they were just telling the same
story that we knew in the same exact way unveiling
and that's sure identically, I'd be like, God damn it.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
That would also be really fucking boring for us, because
we would basically be repeating everything that we're going to
be talking about when we cover part two.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, I'd be like, just wait until we release our
game podcast and then yeah, there.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Would be legitimately no reason to have the last cast.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
If that a marker in for when you should stop
when we get to season two, you know, like, all right,
show listeners, show watchers, you stop this there.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
At forty one minutes into this episode because we don't
know what happens now.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, so it is. It is hard to toe the line,
but I feel like I feel like you and I
are already doing a better job even with episode one
than we did in all of season one.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah, with not trying to ruin enjoyment. I'm just here
to be a fan.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yes, and I'm trying very hard to do that as well, well, So.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Please tell me by recording for thirty seven hours this week.
So sure, Yeah, we'll bring this home from analymbe. Also, coincidentally,
I have another Telu item to recommend from Dean Draws
to use Slash anyone interested. There's a cute comic book
cover style magnet for Telu and there's now an Ellie

(38:19):
Slash Dina pin and sticker design as well. I took
a peek at this. It's amazing. I'm gonna pop it in.
Maybe you could just pop the link in the show notes,
but I'll put it in the merch channel of our
discord as well because it's very cool. It is very cool.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, I'm definitely going to I'm literally going to buy
it tonight, so thank you.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah for There's also a bumper sticker with a very
cute cartoony Ellie that and she's on Shimmer and it
says ride like infected or after you.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
It's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
It actually kind of looks like studio studio ghibli like
kind of the the style of it a little bit
like Castle in the Sky or something.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
It's awesome. I like it. A lot.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
So for the just to end here, wrap it up
from Anelin B. Thank you for all the work you
put into wayfarin. I'm looking forward to all the bonus
conversations and adventures along with Part two discussion.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Sincerely, Aneline. PS.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
I don't think I would have noticed Baby Shadow without
this podcast, so thanks for bringing that to my attention.
Andrew's Baby Shadow voice is always a highlight. Made the
bit live forever.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Well, thank you, It's so good.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
So this is great, this is great.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Unrelated to Telu stuff, and hopefully this isn't weird tomension.
But if your April travels you alluded to in an
episode would happen to be Star Wars celebration related, maybe
a wayfarin meet up somewhere.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Oh, Anelin, how I wish that we could have gone
or would be on the way to Star Wars celebration.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Where's this year?

Speaker 1 (40:00):
It's in Japan?

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Oh damn, that is in Japan West, that's real West.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, so it was just not in the cards, although
we finally received our passports so we could technically.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Go, but go. I'm booking the tickets right now.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
It actually starts tomorrow, all right, on the eighteenth. Sorry, everyone,
but it is the eighteenth already there, so it starts
today for them in Japan, for everyone in Japan. So
what is time? I know it's insane, but I will
say anelin that unfortunately, while we will not be in
Star Wars celebration in twenty twenty five, we know people

(40:40):
who know people who like know people who work for
the people who do Star Wars Alibrjron. I made that
sound way more removed than it is because I want
to be cryptic. But sure they gave a little heads
up that they're like, you know, twenty twenty seven in Orlando, Florida,
and that will be the fiftieth anniversary of a New
Hope and Star Wars itself obviously, so I you will

(41:04):
catch me there the whole mf in time.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Okay, So I'll do a uh, we'll do a unrelated
franchise meetup. Maybe that's what we call.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
It, unrelated franchise meetup. What's the write that out for me?

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Med Star Wars celebration, we will have a meetup of
last of us fans.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
That's oof moo. Unrelated franchise meetup, oof moo.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
That's got it rolls right off the tongue. I gotta
be honest with you. I'm copywriting it right now. I
wrote it down. Oof, that's a that's a shirt. Let's
put it on a shirt. Oof moo. No context, but
definitely put the periods in between each letter so you
know that it's an acronym. Let everyone else try to
figure it out.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Oh my god, I'm so ready. And maybe on the
back like in TD, tiny letters like by the collar.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
It's the last of.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Us part too. She fucking nailed at full circle moment.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Let's go, but in a fucking comic sands or some
dumb shit.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Oh that's a powerful, that's powerful. I'm going to remake
all of our logos with comic sands actually, or Papyrus.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
That would be madness. Madness is We're going to do
one more email.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
It's a it's a short one, so there we go.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
This is a short one from our good old buddy,
old pal.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
Can I do this?

Speaker 2 (42:32):
I'm going to do that while you're I'm going to
just back up for the mic.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
I'm going to go.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Because it's a football it's a football related message, yes
it is.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
And this is from SREN, which is our our buddy
old pal Niners, and it's from February ninth of twenty
twenty five. And if you are an Eagles fan, a
Philadelphia Eagle fan, go birds. That is when we won
the Super Bowl, the superbo So you stop it, so

(43:10):
go Birds. But s friend says, well, hello, nothing too related.
In my latest email to y'all, I just want to
say good luck to you and your team in today's game.
So this was actually before we won. I'm rooting for
the bird the damn it. I can't say it. I'm
rooting for that Alfred Hitchcock team. I'm just getting seriously though,

(43:31):
good luck to your team. Much love is always hope
to hear your voices soon.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Peace.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
There it is so well received, and yeah, there it is.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
And we won and it was wonderful win. We wined,
and uh it was one of the best days of
mine and one of the best weeks of my life.
No not hyperbole at all, No, not even close. So yeah, thanks,
thank you guys so much. S frien Anlin, Sarah. We

(44:05):
appreciate you. We appreciate all of you, everyone who's written in,
everyone who has yet to write in. We look forward
to to all of it. Yes, and I think hold
on I'm trying to scroll to the correct place.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
You already got it.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Four.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
We have four left.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
We have four emails. Well I haven't added one, so
we have five mo We have five emails left before
we get to return to Left Behind and kick off
the Last of Us Part two. So it's gonna be great.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yeah, it's gonna be a couple of weeks of overlap
with some other Last of Us show and uh.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Well yeah, we'll see. It's a lot of it's a
lot of overlap. It's a lot overlap.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
No, but no, as I said in the Big I've
always talked about.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
The least shows.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Sorry, yes, but that is. That's our show for this week.
So thank you guys for hanging out with us before
we go. Here's some ways that you can reach out
and chat with us if you'd love to. We are
over on blue Sky at TLU podcast or Instagram at
Telu podcasts. If you'd like to be featured on an
upcoming email that will be read a couple days after

(45:25):
you actually send the dang thing, you could do that
at tlupodcast at gmail dot com. If you'd like to
join our coffee and you know, buy us a quosan
or just hang out with us and listen to almost
sixty bonus episodes of pre show post show stuff and
pictures and all kinds of just odds and ends. You

(45:46):
can do that by going to ko dash Fi dot
com slash tlu podcast Again, all of these links and
information are always in the show notes every single week,
and the last cast has returned as of today. We
did a bonus episode a few days ago, so feel
free to hop over there if you want more last
of us content from me and Andrew, from Andrew and

(46:09):
I and yeah, next week on this show will be
another bonus episode, another email show catching up always, but yeah,
for now, I would just like to say thank you
so so much to our wonderful coffee friends who have
subscribed to us for so dang long now and stuck
with us through literal thick and thin. We love y'all.

(46:32):
And that is the ghost of mister Joel Mari Kiara,
Dustin T. Wander On, Brian Jim Zidra Kelsey, Kryptonian Jedi
seventy nine, Ozzy Ellie A Lurker, Etreas Light nine ten,
Climatize eighty two, Zombie Tom thirty nine jess our end.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
It's for you, Adeline Baby Shallow.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
So good, so so good. We lost Ada Jader Sonava.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Well we always keep Vaded in our hearts, so.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Yeah, I hope you're doing well, Vaded Jada, whoever you are. Yeah,
so thank you guys so much. And I don't have
an artist to shout out this week, but if you
know what to go, check out Dean Drawls on Etsy.
Go check out the shop. They have some really fun
magnet stickers and just good stuff over there, and uh yeah,

(47:25):
I will be buying that Joel and Elie Magnet as
soon as we're done recording. So thank you for listening
to the show. We hope you guys have a wonderful week.
Go outside and get some sunshine, drink more water, because
I definitely know you haven't what And if there's something
that you've been putting off and it's stressing you out,

(47:47):
just get it done. I promise you you're going to
feel a million times fucking better and it's not going
to take a quarter of the time that you think
it's actually going to. So you got this. We believe
in you, and have a great weekend and we'll chat
next week.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Bye. See y'all
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