Episode 31: They Ambushed Me

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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Well, hello everybody, it is. Yeah, it's wayfer and strangers.
You didn't cut me off.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
See, and I forgot.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I can't do it every time.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
That's true. You actually missed a who when I mentioned
Barb last week too, And I was like, when I
was editing, because just in case anyone was like, did
Jack cut the who out? I did not. I mentioned
her in passing. I I did not cut the who out.
But yeah, I said Barb and there was no who.

(01:01):
And I was like, oh, you're slipping.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I'm being I'm being judicious. No, no, you're not. You're
not letting me finish. I'm being silenced. The podcast does
not represent my thoughts anymore. She's cutting out of who's
left and right, no, making it look like I know

(01:25):
who this Barb person is.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, so Barb is wonderful. We all love Barb. Everyone
loves Barb, and that's how it should be. But uh, yeah,
this is the podcast. I'm Jack as always. I am
joined by Andrew.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Hey, hello, Yeah, hi, it's been a week. We're not
going to talk about it a lot, but taking a
stance and making it very clear where we are is important.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah. Well, I think you know if you if you're
a follower, if you if you like this game, if
you like this series, that that comes with certain points
of view that you hopefully align with. If you say
you love this game, then you love this You love
a lot of ideology that this game presents as well.
So yes, it goes hand in glove. It's you know,

(02:15):
it's you can't have one without the other.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
So I agree, Yeah, that's all. I agree. We understand.
What happened this week was devastating, and if you listen
to this podcast and you listen to us, you know
exactly where we stand. We're heartbroken, we're disappointed, but life
goes on and we will continue doing our part. So yeah,
now that we got the red elephant out of the way,

(02:41):
and let's get back to game talk because that's what
we're here for. And I think everyone needs a little
bit of escapism right now, and as do you and I.
So if if you've, if you've not gone over to
Apple Podcasts to like, give us a review or you know,
spread the word or any of that stuff, we would

(03:02):
very much appreciate if you did that, whether it's five
stars or like, hey, you guys are doing a great job.
Or hey, remember when you talked about Joel's tissues in
episode one that was while areas whatever you want to say,
like we.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Was I remember, I wasn't there, but I remember that conversation.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, we would very much appreciate that. So, yeah, that's
a future Thank you for anyone who does that. Our
main segment today we are talking about left Behind for
the first episode. There are I mean there are sections

(03:39):
I guess like we're still in mal rats by the
end of this. Yeah, so I don't want to name
anything essentially, but we're in left Behind. This is the
segment that we are doing. It's a little bit more
muddied because I couldn't find a proper breakdown of it.
So this is this is what's happening.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Look, I did it. I did left Behind?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yes, you did? How the fuck have we not talked
about it?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I did it live on stream? He did? He hung out?
It was great.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, got us a bunch of new followers comment just
people enjoying hanging out with you for almost three hours.
And if anybody listening missed that, please go over to
our YouTube and check it out or check out our Twitch.
The whole entire thing is there. Yeah, of course, I
don't know if you put it over on YouTube just yet.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
No, it is. Yeah, it saved immediately because when you
stream on YouTube, it just turns the VOD right into
a video.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
So I love it. I love it. It was a
good time and I loved your struggle.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Not my best showing because I'm playing a lot of
games right now, so I had this muscle. I had
my weird muscle memory thing going on. By hey, you
know that happens. I had fun.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, a lot of running.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Around, a lot of running from from things, from people,
from creatures.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
I did love the struggle with the puzzle in the
electrified water room.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
What an asshole? What my asshole?

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Your comment was just like Jackie would have been done
this like thirty minutes ago, or.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
What an asshole. I was like, oh, just turn around.
I walked all the way back out. I was like, well,
clearly I missed something.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Nope, nope, I know. To be honest, again, I've only
played that straight through twice, so I might forget.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
To I blame the chat for not helping me.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
I know, I did see I did again. I was
there and I was like, he's struggling. Should I like help?
But then I was like, no, no one helped me.
That's a terrible So anywayball more true, It's true. I
know that's a little vicious. I should help you.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I'm sorry, it's fine. I did it. Eventually, it just
wasted everyone's time.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
No, we loved it. We loved it because again, every time,
whenever anyone has played any game that has puzzles like that,
if you had our if you are watching and you've
already played that, you're like, go here, corner, but like
you were also struggling when you're first played, Like, that's
just how it goes. It's like the it's like the right.

(06:18):
It's a right of passage. Yes, but okay, yeah, anyway,
so we're discussing left Behind. This is the first episode
of question Mark Many and as always we'll have our
emotional toll and would we survive? But before we get
to anything, andrews to corner A.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Left Behind is a game that has many jokes, many
good jokes. Some of them even made it into the show,
so that's kind of cool. I have one, here's one. Sure,
what do you call a beehive without an exit?

Speaker 3 (07:02):
Mmm?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Unbelievable, Oh my god, goddamn right, goddamn right.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I should have got that disappointed in myself.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
It's hard. It's hard to you know, because it's not
it's not be related, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
But unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Sure, I mean kind to leave.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
It's perfect.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I know. It's a great. It's a great. It's a
great pun great pun.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, very good. That's that's wonderful, So listener. Some listener comments,
some reviews. We received two awesome Apple podcast reviews and
uh I mentioned this on our show Late Yes, our
show last week, but I said we were going to
tackle it this week. So let's go, Andrew, if you
could read.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
These, oh man, this is from Skasinator Underscore two three,
Scarsinator Underscore two three. I believe was on the Left
Behind stream at least for a moment.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
M hmm.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
From the amazing intro and outro music to the chemistry
and humor the hosts have, this show is by far
the best telou podcast I have found yet. You get
lore and story deep dives, and the detail is so
good and you can visualize everything from the game in
your head. I found this show after looking for the
last cast. They said they had wayfair and strangers, so
I checked it out and just wow, done, there we go.

(08:31):
I actually he actually wrote Skazenader wrote nicely done. So
I just used the soundboard, which I assume was the
prompt that was required. So there we go.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Thank you so much, Ozzie. You I mean like new
friend slash follower on our socials and part of the
discord and a coffee friend. Like You're just awesome. Thank
you for taking the time to just support us and
believe in this show. I mean, yeah, it keeps us going.

(09:03):
So that was great.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
That truly great. M ah oh, I'm reading the next
one too. Oh, I thought it was Okay, that's great.
All right, this is from Abby. Maybe Abby may be Abby.
Maybe I love it. This podcast is simply wonderful, a
must listen for lovers of Telu. The hosts of this show,

(09:24):
Jack and Andrew, are so delightful and have wonderful banter.
The way they delve deep and dissect the game demonstrates
how much thought and effort they put into this podcast.
From discussing the game's events and how they affect the
characters physically, mentally and in terms of character development, to
every detail and items that can be found in the
world of TELU long Live Baby Shadow. God damn right,

(09:48):
I beg you to do yourself a favor and give
this podcast to listen. While you're at it, listen to
their other podcast, the Last Cast, where they discuss the
HBO Show. It is equally as amazing endure and survive.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Thank you, thank you so much as maybe maybe.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
We are not going to live with Baby Shadow rasure.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
I know, and and there are so many details in
this game like that. Again, prepare yourselves, listeners. The amount
of details we're going to hit you with is immeasurable.
But there are a lot of books at at some
point and still no Baby Shadow.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
They really, they're really trying to pull the wool over
our eyes. You know what I'm saying. I'm not going
to allow it. Moters, motters. This is a call to
arms for the motters out there, for the for the
PC version. Get Baby Shadow back in this bitch, ye Now,
I'll buy this game on Steam deck if I get

(10:54):
a Baby Shadow mond.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Right, Oh my god, Please anybody listen, and if you do,
please reach out to us and email us, because oh
that'll be the fucking best. I can't wait till like see,
I'm like preparing my brain already that I'm like thinking
about it and not talking, so i gotta stop.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
All right, all right, let's go.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Let's jump in to Left Behind. So the game opens
with the end sequence of the last of Us Fall chapter. Now,
I'm not going to rehash all of that. If you
are interested in hearing our thoughts on that again, please
go back to episode twenty three titled Get Up, Get Up,
Get Up for all of those nifty and certainly gritty details. Yes, so,

(11:35):
after the recap happens, the Naughty Dog logo flashes, and
then we are in the past. Now, I'm gonna try
my best, as will you, to meant to reference when
we are in the past during flashbacks versus when we
are in the present.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
With Nelly ooh, you should use a sound effect like.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Like you know, one of those it's funny that like
you bring up like fun little sound like that. Because
for our coffee subscribers kosh Fi dot com Slash t
Lou podcast, we do pre show and post show audio
that's exclusive just for them. And I'm sure people know
this and they're like, Jack, move on. But I do
like in between the pre show and the post show,

(12:18):
I put a little sound, and it's like I can't
I can't do it well, but it exists. I promise
it's there. So again, you and you and I thank
you same same way. But anyway, so real quick, I'm
going to insert the scene audio right heah yeah, Riley Owl.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
I will end it on my hip.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
The hell that I know.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
It was kind of awesome.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
You're not gonna kill me, are you?

Speaker 5 (13:10):
I haven't seen you and I don't even know how long.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Forty five days? Wow, forty six?

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Technically I want to know what I've been up to
all this time.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
I thought you were dead.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Yeah here, look, no way, still no roommate. I had
to sleep under Liz for three years, and.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
You know how bad that girl's smelt. You're a firefly?

Speaker 2 (13:59):
You still have up?

Speaker 3 (14:01):
What what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (14:05):
I'm making sure I don't get caught with a firefly?

Speaker 3 (14:07):
A relax.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
There are no soldiers on the entire floor.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Here.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
Congrats?

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Hey are we cool?

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Are we cool?

Speaker 3 (14:23):
I disappeared and you're mad, and I owe you an explanation.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Let's get out of here and I'll tell you all
about it.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
It's almost morning, and I have military drills, you know,
where we learn how to kill fireflies, put some.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Pants on and let's go.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
It's so dumb.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Come on, when have we ever gotten into trouble?

Speaker 1 (14:51):
All right, So again not going to go through every
single beat by beat second, but you know, we see Ellie.
It's raining outside. This moment where Riley pretends to bite Ellie,
which I thought was a little interesting because that's some
foreshadowing for the end of the game, right right, people
are with me. Then the instant knife grab because Ellie

(15:14):
plays no games, so we can clearly see that Ellie
is annoyed. Riley's been gone for forty six days. That's
a long time to think. I mean, god knows what
you would think. You would think your best friend or
the person that you like or love is dead and
they just pop back like everything is fine and dandy.
How are you supposed to react? You know, But she's

(15:37):
a firefly, it's revealed, and all along Ellie, you know,
was worried. So she's being a little harsh here and
paranoid and doesn't want to get caught now that she
has this information. And they're at the military academy and
Federa's obviously gunning for fireflies, so you know, they're talking

(15:59):
a little bit here, but a definitely not fully cool
yet between the girls, and Ellie talks about her military
drills and as she throws in that line of you know,
to learn how to kill fireflies. So Riley is trying
to entice Ellie to go, and of course Ellie goes.
We knew she was gonna go. And there's another foreshadowing

(16:21):
moment here, so we have the earlier, the earlier one
where Riley pretends to bite her, and then there's some
famous last words with Riley saying, come on, when have
we ever gotten into trouble? And it just it makes
my heart pang because in a few short hours we
know what's gonna happen to both of these girls and
this relationship and these friends, and it's just heartbreaking. So

(16:43):
so we are now back into the present insofar as
like the moment immediately after the fall chapter present, and
I'm gonna put the cutscene audio right here.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
Come on, give me see that.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Fuck Oh, here we go.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
Okay, we'll put you on your side, jesus.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
M M.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
Okay mm hmm, I should I ask some time. I'll
find something to stitch you up. Okay, callous, keep an
eye on him. M.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
Hmmmmmm, I'll be back in a flash, promise.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
So Ellie is frantically searching for anything to save Joel's life,
obviously in God Bless Duc tape. So she uses her
beloved Palm Tree shirt as a bandage for his wound.
That is love, because we all know that girl wore
that shirt pretty much the entire first fucking part of
the game.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, I was wondering what happened in that shirt.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
You know, Yeah, now you know?

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Now I know the shirt backstory.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah, isn't that great? Oh god, I love backstory. But
poor Joel, my god, my heart just seeing him hurt
like this and completely out of it. I mean like
he's like hey, like green, pale, like he's just freezing
and dying and it's terrible, and my heart breaks every

(18:53):
single time that we get this little glimpse, especially of
that gnarly fucking wound. But she is on a mission
to stitch him up up and says she'll be back
in a flash, and then boom, we have the title
sequence and we find out that we are now in
a mall. So Ellie actually locks him in there, and
we're going to discuss that shortly. But that is that
for that cut scene, and now you are Ellie again,

(19:16):
and it's time to figure out where the fuck to go.
But really it's time for you and I to look
around because there's so much. There's so much that's about
to inundate. You mean the listeners like it. Just prepare
gird the loins, folks.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Loins are properly girded. Let's go.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
So I'm going to talk about what I find and where,
but not necessarily how I got there, because we will
literally be here all night and it will confuse people.
So we leave Joel behind in the swirls Frogen.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Frogn Frogen Swirrel's Frogen fro froken gogurt.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
We leave Joel behind in this swirls frogan.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Boom. Let's go for three.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Oh all right, we leave Joel behind in the swirls
frozen yogurt. People are like, why the fuck is she laving?

Speaker 2 (20:18):
No, you're gonna leave it in. It's important that they
know FROGN. I'm not gonna let it go. You gotta
leave it in now. I'll just I'm gonna reference it
later in the show, so you definitely can't take it out, all.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Right, I won't take it out. So that's where we
leave Joel Fyi. And beyond that is a Fletcher and
Clarks since nineteen fifty six, real looking lamps on the
outside of this fancy little store. And the wind is
howling outside and a blizzard is clearly raging and I
absolutely fucking love it. Yeah, And beside the elevators we

(20:51):
see a Colorado Mountain Plaza sign which will be found
everywhere in this mall by the Colorado Experience advertisement, or
it is the Experience advertisement. But there is construction for
a candy shop. It's all like boarded up and roped off,
and it says it's coming spring twenty fourteen. And that did

(21:13):
not age very well unfortunately. Yeah, yeah, a lot was lost,
including the candy shop. But there's a bronze statue in
the center of the area of a Native American warrior
of some sort atop his horse and on the cusp
of throwing a spear. It's badass and I love it.
And it is the first of I believe two or
three more if I'm correct, at least one more that

(21:36):
I know of in the part that I get to today,
so maybe just two total. But anyway, did I mention
that it's snowing right into the mall, and everything is
covered partially, so there's a window. There's quite a few
windows at the top that are opened classic malls. But
looking even higher, we discover that this area used to

(21:56):
be a military slash processing zone, and there's a ration
depot a zone farther up ahead that we will get
to in just a little bit. Now, hopping over the
rations barrier, there's a Colorado Mountain Plaza Code of conduct
and these are everywhere by the escalators, by the elevators

(22:16):
in the corners, Like, I mean, what the fuck happened
in this mall that they need that much? But let's
read some of these. So animals and or pets are
not allowed within the mall. We reserve the rights to
disperse groups of four or more that four really anyway,
but guests must move in an orderly fashion through the

(22:38):
premises and not block walkways or store entrances. No loidering.
All seating is reserved for paying customers within the mall.
Loitering on the property will be grounds for ejection. Loud
boisterous behavior and obscene or offensive language will not be permitted. Spitting, spitting,

(22:58):
sitting in or on planters, leaning on the railings or
throwing objects on the premises will be grounds for ejection. Running, vandalism,
or any unacceptable conduct on the conduct on the premises
will be grounds for ejection. And when conditions contribute to
an overflow of patrons, management reserves the right to disperse

(23:19):
and or eject individuals or groups.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Can I tell you something hilarious real quick? As a
complete no, just as a complete aside. Growing up, I
would spend a lot of time at various malls in
and around the Philadelphia area, and we had one in
the Great Northeast, the Great Great Northeast called Franklin Mills.
I don't believe it's called Franklin Mills anymore, but it's

(23:45):
still there.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
I think it's called the Mills.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
The Oh, that's a terrible name.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Anyway, one of the things that we used to do
when we would go to this mall, we would go
on like a Saturday, right, and it was packed because
that's what you did in the early offs.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yes, it literally was.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Seventeen or eighteen years old. Me, me and one thing
that we would do for funzos when we went there,
Me and this group of about eight or nine people
was nine, we would run at full speed okay, yes,

(24:33):
and then purposely trip and see how far we could
slide in front of easily dozens of people. We would
often do it in front of the food court and
then get up and dust ourselves off. And then now
I get it, this is the dumbest thing in the world.
But just that I've broken nine of the lulls on

(24:54):
this side you are, So I'm just thinking I was
one hundred percent loitering. I was. I'd be dispersed because
I was a group of.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Four or more loud and boisterous.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
I was not moving in an orderly fashion, running running,
you know. Basically if I had spit while falling, I
would have I would have nailed every single thing in
this in this list. So as you were going down
that list, oh yeah, if I was, if I spit
and I was holding a dog, that I would basically
nail it. I would have went like ten for ten.

(25:26):
So yeah, I propos of nothing. I just wanted to say,
like kind of a I mean, I probably wouldn't have
been invited to stay in this mall.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
It's so funny because I like seeing you now, Yeah,
knowing you for almost the past twenty years, like, I've
just never seen you act that way. Sure, but I
met you when you were like twenty one, right, like
almost twenty one.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
I think yeah, yeah, I would say so, yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, and you were just different by that point. But god,
if I would have seen you, because I went to
Franklin Mills too, but I also worked at the mall
closer to my home. Sure, the mini mall is what
we called it, so I was primarily there. But the
few times I did go to Franklin Mills, if I
would have saw you, I've been like, oh my god,

(26:17):
what a fucking idiot.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Oh no, one hundred percent you would have But here's
the deal. You probably would have left. And that's all
I was trying to do.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Wouldn't it be fucking wild if someone listening heard this
podcast had obvious and had seen that yeah, and they
were like, God, there was this group of kids, like
thirty years ago, twenty years ago.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yeah, no, yeah. If you if you were a listener
from locally and you had ever witnessed anything like that,
it was probably me. It would have been from the
years of the Years of Our Lord two thousand to
two thousand and two, so maybe three, maybe early two
thousand and three.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Wow, you you were eighteen years old doing that shit?
Andrew stop?

Speaker 2 (27:03):
When else would you do that shit? I was seventeen
first of all, but also eighteen. Yeah, but seventeen.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
First, you know, yeah, for thirty days and then you
turn out it was seventeen. Oh my god. All right,
this podcast is a hot mess.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Alright, No, it's okay, Yeah, it's important. It's important.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
So throughout this entire mall, we will see a lot
of the following, and I will not repeat it again
after I talk about it right now. And those things
are trash, trash cans, tarps, boxes, bins, lockers, barriers, metal shelves,
empty vendor kiosks, large and small planters that you are
not allowed to spit or sit in, plastic five gallon buckets,

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and random cloth lying about, just like just everywhere, random cloth,
just laying laying around. There's a Federal Incident Security Force
stash secure air dash restricted military zone that is obviously
highly secure and scary looking from the outside, and I
can't even imagine what it would be like on the

(28:07):
fucking inside. It's also contains electronic doors and what was
likely powerful lighting atop these gates. Back in its terrible Aday,
no thanks, so scoop out the scoop. Yeah, I can't
pudet podcast. It's late anymore. Scope out the Great Planes

(28:28):
store for nothing at all but the vibes, and then
go upstairs. But before we do, that must have been
very lucky for Ellie not to have a roommate at
the military boarding school. I'm gonna talk about that first,
and then part two is disappearing in this world is
a very bad idea, and I absolutely believe that Ellie's

(28:49):
anger is justified. But we'll get to that one. So
Ellie talks about where you've been blah blah blah, and
Riley points out that, oh, you're still alone, like you
haven't had a roommate take my place essentially since she's
been gone for forty six days. Sure, which two thoughts
come to mind? One are there so few people and
so few teenagers that are going into the federal training

(29:12):
at this point, twenty years into the apocalypse that Ellie
is able to have her own room? Or Two do
people just not want a room with Ellie?

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Could be a little calm mat, a little calm.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
B Yeah, but I'm pretty sure like she was not
the easiest person. She was rough around the edges, as
I would assume everyone during that particular era would be
rough around the edges. But it just makes me sad.
I think when I think about the potential of part
one of that question, that there are so few teenagers
and kids being born into this world that the rooms

(29:48):
aren't even filling, which is good for Ellie, because my god,
I would very much prefer my own room.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, I think. I think also that rule applies where
if your roommate dies you get an a right or
is that not app p here?

Speaker 1 (30:00):
I don't think that's applicable.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
I don't even know if that's applicable in real life.
I've seen that in so many movies that I'm just like,
I'm like, I don't even know if that's right. I
don't want to even look it up to see me neither.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
I'm just gonna believe it is.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, it's easier to just to be like, oh my god,
what a great rule. I'm for you. You're not your roommate.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Obviously exactly, Well, that's terrible. So, and part two of
the question, disappearing in this world is a very bad thing.
On average? How often do you think, like, what is
the potential to happen to these kids. I mean, you
see Riley and Ellie sneak out. You see where they
go and what happens to them. So it stands to

(30:40):
reason that they are not the only two kids to
do this.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
So how often is this happening? And as strict as
things seem to be with FEDRA, maybe they're not as
strict anymore because Riley disappears, but she comes back, and
she's able to leave with that being seen and come
back without being seen, and then they both fucking leave
again without being seen. Are people willingly leaving? Do you

(31:07):
think because they don't want to be a part of FEDERA?
Like what are I'm kind of asking what is the
percentage of people who stay to complete their training and
be federal soldiers versus people who leave?

Speaker 2 (31:17):
I don't know, yeah, but I think it's very I
think it's just like kids, you know, like, of course
they're going to sneak out, because kids have done that
since the dawn of time, sneak out and get away.
The parents are distracted, I'm gonna go worr or now
you know?

Speaker 1 (31:36):
So, yeah, but this is so, I mean, the circumstances
are so dire.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
I don't think that the circumstances of your life are
dictated by when you were born. Really, So that's dire
for us because I'm like, man, I grew up in
the lap of luxury comparatively, you know, I had all
the video games I wanted. I didn't have to imagine
them at all.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Right, So, did you ever sneak out?

Speaker 2 (32:02):
No? I was an indoor kid.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
You see me too. I never snuck out.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, never, but I you know, I'm like, that's you know,
that's fine. Once I was out, like around these times
where I would go trip and fall in malls on purpose,
I would push the curfew as far as humanly possible,
you know what I'm saying. So that was a thing.
But I'm not sneaking out. I was very Everyone was
always aware of where I was.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Oh God, you just reminded me of a fucking story.
I have to tell this.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Okay, this is the nostalgia episode.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
It really is. This whole series with Left Behind might
be a lot of little nostalgia peeking through. But one
of the worst times, Gosh, I love you, Dad, but
you were something else. This day I slept over one
of my girlfriend's house years ago, and I might have
been like nine or ten years old because we were

(32:55):
still at one house before moving to where my mom
currently lives. And that's when I was like in high school,
so I know I was younger. So all right, and
this is before cell phones. Keep that in mind, people
before cell phones, it was just land live before cell phones. Yeah,
so I slept over my girlfriend's house and my dad

(33:18):
was like, okay, well you need to be home the
following day, no later than five thirty because we're having
dinner later that day because of X y Z, I'm
working like whatever it was. Now, what happened was.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
You don't kind of lie to me.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
No, I swear to God, I'm not lying about anything.
I was not a shady kid. I really was not.
I was a rule abiding, you know, good kid until
whatever hormones really kicked. In my friend's family. They were like, okay,
well we're going to church in the morning from eleven
to twelve, and then afterwards we're gonna go out to lunch.

(33:56):
And I was like, okay, all good, all good, and
then we're going to visit somebody else's family, like somebody
in their family, somebody else's house. And then afterwards we
have to go food shopping, and I was like, that
seems like yeah. I was like, that seems like a
lot of stuff, and I don't know if I'm gonna
get home by five point thirty. But we were already

(34:17):
like in the car going to places, so there was
no way for me to update my parents.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Ooh boy, oh boy.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
I did not get in until like seven o'clock.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
How'd that go?

Speaker 1 (34:29):
When I tell you? Oh god, yeah, you knew my
dad when I tell you, I walked into that house
and they were My dad literally looked at me from
the kitchen, turned and walked away, and he had like
literal murder on his face. And my mom was like,
don't even talk to me. Don't even talk to your dad.

(34:52):
Go to your room. And I was like, oh my god,
I had nothing to fucking do with this. It my
friend's family. Like I will literally grab them out of
the car and tell them to come in here and
tell you, and she was just like, we don't care,
go upstairs, and I.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Was just like what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Like it was? It was, I was at church and
food shopping essentially the most innocent shit, and I had
no way to tell my parents and yeah. I was
like I got the fucking twister, like finger of God.
Like it was just a nightmare. Yeah. It was a

(35:32):
nightmare in my house for many days after that. And
then eventually I was like sitting on the couch that
weekend and I was like, or that middle of the
week because that was the weekend and it was obviously
Sunday because of church. It was like Wednesday when I
could finally talk to my parents again, and they were like,
what do you have to say for yourself? And I

(35:53):
was like, are you actually gonna listen to me or
are you just gonna like punish me without having the
whole story? And they were like, talk essentially before we
get pissed again. And I told them the whole story
and they were like, oh my god, are you serious.
Call the Thompsons.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
You gotta call the Thompsons.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah. I was like, call them. If you don't fucking
believe me, call them, and they were and I'm pretty
sure they did. Like the next time I hung out
with them, they literally talked to her mom and her
mom was like, oh, yeah, we went to church and
then we had to run some errands and then we
visited my mother in law and then we went food
dropping and my mom and dad looked at me and
they were like, maybe we should have heard you out.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
It wasn't me. Yeah, you were there like trust me?

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Yeah, I was like, what the fuck? Trust like, I'm
a good kid. Trust me anyway? Yeah, I was a
good kid. So let's go back to the podcast that
we were on. Jeez, so I know, right, like, are
you surprised though, because you knew, you know, this is.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Why the whole thing is this Why I Left Behind?

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Is going to be nine episodes long or probably?

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Okay, wanted to check.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Yeah again, folks, it's it's late when we're recording this.
We're very tired. It's been a fucking week and.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
At the lifts, no more fucking around.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Let us have the jokes. So all right, Ellie caring
for Joel, and once again I'm asking how the fuck
did this man survive? Because her looking at him quickly
patching him up and then peeking at him from the
doorway to the abandoned store and then taking the key
with her, I can't imagine what was going through Ellie's head.

(37:33):
I really can't. Just like, fear and doubt and worry
out of her fucking mind. But the one thing I
wanted to focus on right now is she took the
key and locked him in that store. Yeah, there was
no other alternative way out of that fucking store. Sure,
so he was literally dead either way. Yeah, And I

(37:56):
don't think I ever really thought about that before when
I played the game, just like, oh, it's time to
go hunt for supplies. You know he'll be fine, No
one's because in her mind, she's like, in case anyone
comes here, I don't want anyone accidentally finding him, or
any infected stumbling upon him or anything.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Perfect.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
And I know her heart was in the right place,
but when you look at it from that other side
of that would have been a tomb. If something happened
to Ellie, that would have been a tomb. And then
I go to Tommy and I'm like, he never ever
would have discovered his brother, never would have known what
happened to him.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Nothing, He was just in a Claire's in a mall, so.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Forever forever, just turning to skeletal remains and then nothing.
Oh I don't That just like haunted me a little
bit when I played it this time. So anyway, Yeah,
so seeing just the beginning part of this mall turned
into something so judicial and governmental and all of that

(38:57):
is uncomfortable to say the least. But it's interesting to
talk about the differences in malls from twenty years ago
to malls today. Now. That said, because there are still malls, sure,
I mean, we have one right near us, but it's
basically abandoned. It really is a ghost down. It's just
for like the old folks just getting their steps in

(39:18):
in the morning, and you know what, get out there
and get your fucking steps in it. Yeah, and you're
safe and air conditioned. I support it, so yes, But
I do think that if something along the lines of
outbreak Day happened today, I feel like a mall would
still be a place that would be utilized for that

(39:38):
in the same way.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Georgia Merow and Zack Snyder did it. And Dawn of
the Dead all movie takes place in a mall.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Yeah, it's great. Yeah, I mean there is a lot
of security. Like I don't think a place like Costco
or Sam's Club or BJ's or things like that, Like,
I don't think that they would They would work well
unfortunately as like a temporary prison or holding facility. But
I don't think a processing center. I don't think it

(40:08):
would work for that, but a mall, damn, yeah, yeah,
because you have the individual stores with locking mechanisms, then
you have separate floors like there's just we might have
to add this to our fortress list. Would this be
a good fortified location of all?

Speaker 2 (40:24):
I've considered it, you know, I've considered it. You know.
The thing that always happens with these malls, right is, uh,
the people inside are the are the weak link. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yeah, you're yeah, you're just entombing the downfall of society essentially.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, I have our I just reached
in and I have our list of if this is
just a little post it note that says list of
places on it, and to anybody walking by my desk
who saw this post it note, they'd be like, what
the fuck is this? It is? I mean, is indeed
a list of places, but there's no other defining characteristics.

(41:06):
We have a prison, a church, a high school, an
aircraft carrier, a lighthouse, and not a coffee shop. So
I would add mall to the list.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Yeah, definitely write that on there. That's important. Okay, So yeah,
but that's that's section one in the bag, which it's
so funny like we're at an hour recording this podcast,
but we're probably real in reality, like thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
We are six minutes into Left Behind.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Let's go not even.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
All right, don't interrupt me. I'm just going to go
through play this at double speed. Everyone, you ready, here
we go. Now, that guest code of conduct we read
earlier is literally everywhere everywhere you look in the mall. Okay,
a bunch of riffraff and as I self identified, yes,
self identified riffraff. We're on the second floor. Now. We

(41:58):
have some stores Staph Bradish, some very nice looking blue
sneakers in the window, very tall, high heeled advertised. On
the other side of the same store, we have clockwise
some quarter machines for the kiddos, Bounty balls and glowsticks, Galore, Rarity,
Nail Salon poster Charles Jones, which I also called out

(42:19):
as a potential golf store at he looked like he
was wearing like a polo type situation. Certainly outdoorsy Jack
Carter also outdoors sounds like an outdoorsy thing, Samsung gym
or equipment, something like that. Mercy Mercy Kiosk Rivers Cafe
and we have been here before. Pumpkin spice latte and

(42:39):
salted caramel coldbrew are advertised and directory by the center
escalators and another by the darker end of the line.
This area right off the top of the steps is
very militarized zones blocked off with mental walls and electronic
gates and such. After running around this circle, you could
proceed onward. Sounds of clickers all right just over yonder

(43:01):
will prompt in oh shit from Ellie. Just a reminder
that we have no ammo or arrows or anything at
this point, just the knife. Am I remembering that correctly?
I think we have the knife and that's it, and
we have a gun, but it is not loaded unless
you toggle those on.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah, you can turn on infinite, AMMO, crafting, infinite all
of that. So that's what I did to make my
life easier for this playthrough.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Yeah, that's true. I didn't even think about doing that,
but I guess you could just have bits like I
have exploding arrows idiots. We have more bookstores, Parker Books,
where Jackie will be for the remainder of the game.
We have journey to the center of the Earth by
Jules Verne, Age of Nature, Guests of Fond Memories, Criminal

(43:49):
without Faith. We've seen all these before. Frankenstein by Mary
Shelley as well. No Baby Shadow, Goldfish Kids. It's back
to schoolwear in the windows, small restrooms, Geraldine's clothing brand.
It looks like so On and so forth. A lot,
a lot of stores. There's an L three prompt for
Ellie Weston's pharmacy that sounds promising. We'll get there soon.

(44:12):
More stores, Oh my god, so many more stores. American
Princess very similar to American Girl Dolls and equally creepy
bend near the base of the door, and Ellie will
try to jiggle a padlock. We need the combination, but
we'll get that pretty soon. We also have a Pixie
Tech camera superstore. After we're finished window shopping, head towards Westons.

(44:32):
It's very CVS right. Maybe if you're from New York,
this is a Dwayne read. I don't know, I don't
know what your life is like. But between write aid
you know whatever adds for everything from the flu shot
to beauty products and back again. Before grabbing anything off
the shelves, let's look at what we can identify Detergent

(44:54):
Naturals Healthy Ends shampoo. It's a shampoo named detergent. That
would you put that on your head? I probably know
if I was eighteen, Yes, but now no, clearly had
made a lot of mistakes when I was eighteen. It's fine.
We got to rolled up partially used tube of toothpaste

(45:15):
named paste. Would not use toothpaste name paste. I'm gonna
be honest with you and everywhere. I never really thought
about that that hard that it's paste.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
For your teeth. Yeah, but I would not. I would
not use.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Two bottles labeled ethanol, which would probably be alcohol, I guess,
although we don't call it that. There's even price labels
with information. We vitamins for ninety nine, and we have
all this other information that I'm not going to.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Read better read that. No, No, it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Is it interesting?

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (45:51):
It's got a number number four five two three seven
e forty six ten slash twelve slash thirteen.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
That's the expiration date.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Then we have energy drink two sixty nine for this
energy drink, which is about on par for energy drinks.
I would imagine that's number four five two three seven
as well. Yes, six and slash twelve, slash thirteen. It
expires the same day as the vitamins. I find that
extremely dubious repeat info, because who's crazy enough to use

(46:19):
different skews and whatnot in a video game? Come on, guys,
come on. Shaven cream made in the USA. Amazed? I
am amazed.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
I know, I don't know that.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
That's a amazing amaked. Nobody knows what that is. Vision
laundry detergent, which is actual detergent, not shampoo. Total loads
to twenty eight for that bottle. Incredible, what a mark.
We have not one, not two, but three bottles of
hands soft antibacterial soap. Amazing that these weren't taken. There

(46:54):
are even rolls of toilet paper laying about paper gold. Okay,
you could sell that at a huge profit. In the Apocalypse,
here we go. Ellie finds an empty bottle of something
and says, what the hell did you just swallow the
pills and leave the bottle? Oh god, it was fun.
Down another aisle, grab the next bottle. But wait, there's

(47:14):
a DVD atop it. You guessed it. Donna the Wolf
Part two. I spent I saw an inordinate amount of
time trying to figure out what that was, I would.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
All I had to do was go in to photo mood.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
And yeah, if somebody told me, maybe it was Ozzy,
I can't remember. Somebody told me just go in a
photo mode. But then I had a problem trying to
get the light fucking light to light it correctly. I
knew it was DNA the wolf.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Just use your flashlight until Ellie up.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Ah, God, it's so much work. Just let me move
the camera to a microscopic level. The other pill bottles
have labels paracetamol, paracetamol. I believe these are aceta metapin overseas.
One tablet by mouth every four to six hours is
need it. The label is definitely a prescription, but it's

(48:00):
just out over the counter. Willy nilly. We're playing fast
and loose here at Weston's. Okay, no wonder the place
shut down, head towards the next prompt and end cap
beside Johnny's Special Dark, which is chocolate, not alcohol. Ellie
rifles through it, but nada. There is a newspaper in
the middle. Tin. Ellie goes through local team Unicorn wins

(48:22):
championship again.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
That's fun.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Successful clinics today, and Norman absher question mark Norman.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Read Norman absher, who do you love to God?

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Damn it strikes again. There are a few supplies on
the ground right for picking, depending on your difficulty level.
Of course, in the back of the store there's an
area with a few gross flies flying around, insect shield
and other insect repellant products. Those very clearly are working. Great,
let's just put it that way. By the front counter,

(48:57):
let's go through some of the impulse buys. We all
get trapped into life Fulfill nutrition, energy bars, Yummy which
is gum, big Fiber, which is just a bar of fiber.
I mentioned Arctic breath mints, Solitary which celerity, Oh Celerity.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
Yeah, I don't know what that is. That just said
Celarty or Solarity. Write in what you think Selarity is?
You know, actually write a review for the fake product Celarity.
But do it on our podcast. Give it as many
stars as you think Celarity deserves.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yes, please God, because these details took for fucking ever.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
And then lots of Johnny's special Dark Hop the counter,
open the drawer, grab what's there by the cashier is
an artifact on the ground. It says, please read pharmacist
went crazy and attacked me. I hit him pretty hard.
He's unconscious. I locked him in the American Princess store
next door. Please get him help combination thirty five thirty
thirty one the pharmacist. Maybe he's got something. Go to

(49:58):
the door and try it. It failed. Go back outside
and over to American Princess and use the combination to
get inside. Unlock the door.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Enter but first, mm hmm, So I told you, And
that's That's one of our talking points is the amount
of detail in this game. And I mentioned on earlier
podcasts during the last of us that this was going
to be heavy on the details. But I always find
the world building so fucking interesting, and obviously especially in

(50:27):
my favorite game. But like, for instance, why did a
developer put that item in the game with that particular
name and even give it a fucking serial number? Sure,
what's the significance to that? What's the significance to even
the padlock combination? That's the shit that I think about.
Does anybody think about this shit? Or is it just me?

(50:50):
Because I'm like, is that someone's birthday? Is that maybe
that's someone like the develop the designer, developer code or whatever,
that's his son's birthday, Like, I love this shit, sure,
and I hope that we're not annoying people with the
amount of details in this game. But one, it's our podcast,
so and two it brings me joy to do this,

(51:11):
even though it's so much work. It really is. But
I love zooming in. And just like the fact that
there was a literal skew number and an expiration date
on fucking made up vitamins.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Like vitamins please, vitamins please.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
It was just yeah anyway, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
No, it's probably probably I would say, a child's birthday
based on the development of this game, or maybe that
was the day they decided to make this DLC. Now
that would be too close. No, that's too much. Yeah,
I imagine it's probably someone's birthday, and then you know,
any other numbers, I'm always like, ooh with that address,

(51:53):
is that also a birthday?

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Yeah, it has to be significant. I can't believe that
these things are just randomly generated. But I also don't
understand how to design and make video games, so they
could very well just be not coded. I don't know.
I know I didn't feel right saying that statement. It
felt these feel very intentional, sure, like detergent shampoo. That's

(52:17):
just because it's so good. It's so good anyway. Yeah,
moving to point number two, a lot of this is
very believable. So these places, these stores ransackeded eight ages ago.
Did I say ransackeded?

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Ransackeded?

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Yeah, so these places were ransacked ages ago, but toilet
paper still being there and even antibacterial, So that's not
plausible in my opinion. But you and I have discussed
this before, and apart from foods medications, what would be
the first and most important item or items you would

(52:58):
go after in end times?

Speaker 2 (53:00):
A sword?

Speaker 1 (53:03):
So weapons, No, just a sword. You have swords. So
let's say, okay, you.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Multiple greeves, greeves grieves. Yeah, that's what they were called
back in the old days. There are these kind of
these there are these protective pieces for kind of like
your forearm, grieves, that's what. That's what when when like

(53:37):
knights of the old knights of the round Table of
the olden times, when they would uh you knows.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
Oh my god. Okay, all right, so.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
I would just I'm basically just looking for a suit
of armor and a sword for the end times.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Which I guess you're going to a fucking museum is
where you're going.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
That works.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
So some some water, toilet paper, and a.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Full suit of armor. Yes, that's correct, a full suit
of medieval armor and chainmail.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
What a journey.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
You'll never be bitten, at least not on my arms.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Oh my gosh. All right, well that answers that foss
Oh my god. So enter this store, the American Princess Store.
There are lots of spores floating about and uh, it's
not a matter for miss Ellie though. And Ellie says,
if you're gonna jump out of me, just go ahead
and fucking do it.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Which that was pretty fun.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Yeah, that was fun. But at the same time, it's
like you're you're definitely giving your position away. I mean,
she gave her a position away by opening the door,
but still yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so as we did before,
let's look around. So there's a teddy bear on the
counter with a pretty purple and red bell. The counter
is also where you'd have been able to quote, create
a doll that matches your style and spirit one treat

(55:01):
your friends like royalty. A whole experience happening here. Now
it gives us the story of American Princess, which is
American Princess is about spreading our princess principles to everyone,
so that all the girls in the land. I feel
like corporate accounts, payable.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
Counts, payable mina speaking just a woman.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Oh my god, that's from Office Space. People. You do
not get that reference yet. I think that was the
first movie you and I ever watched on a day together.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
And doesn't get much better than that, does it.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
I know he got me real quick. So anyway, continuing
so that all the girls in the land can live
up to what it means to be a princess, So
become an American princess and help us spread our message
of love, kindness and girl power to all. I support it.
I support it wholeheartedly. Support There are doll boxes, closed houses,

(55:58):
and all sorts of related eye all over the store.
Other signs near these particular dolls read choose the doll
that's just right for you. There's giraffes stuffies here and there,
which of course we love because it's a very important
facet slash item to the story. And again it's the
same one that Sarah had in her room way back
in the beginning of the Last of Us. There's lots

(56:20):
of infected grossness all over the fucking walls and the
corners and such, which kind of takes away from the vibe.
But it's fine. And along with the teddy bear, which
there are numerous, there's an elephant that's cute as a button,
if only it wasn't daust and sports. There's fake food
for these dolls and carriages and strollers, and there's even
toys for the toys themselves because consumerism and rounding that

(56:43):
out with tea sets, spinners, etc. So there's supplies around
the store that we actually need that Ellie actually needs,
so grab them as you go and approach the infected
that's in the back of the room that is still
part of the growth, and hit the triangle and Ellie says, oh, man,
don't come to life. Don't come to life. And then
she knowses it has he has nothing on him as

(57:06):
she's searching him, and she says, nothing, where is it? Ah?
Key okay. So the clicker's head rolls forward after this
and she says, oh, fuck, God, damn it. All right, key, pharmacy,
let's do it.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
I was ready to be scared at that point. I
embraced I was I was clenching, and it was it
was okay though it was okay.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Yeah, that is always and I do forget that one,
so I always prepare myself with the clench and then
I'm like, ah, all right with together from better days.
And on the back it reads think about me while
I'm off, I'll be missing you, but not too much.
And there's a smiley face that was drawn along with

(57:46):
a heart dash Laura or So it's time to get
up and out of the store and go back to Weston's. Now,
as you approach the exit, a clicker will walk by.
You can either wait for it to piss or you
can just crouch, pull out the gun because you have
the mods on, and fucking shoot and kill it. And
that's the end of it. And I actually turned on
one shot kill, so it was it was dead, like

(58:09):
I hit its toe and it was dead.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
So the death blow fucking knocked his ring toe off.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Boom done. And that was my next line. Actually, I
turned on one shot kill because I ain't trying to
be here all week. So once we are now back
inside Weston's, unlock the door behind the counter and there's
a mini cut scene here that we're not gonna include
because it's so small. But Ellie rushes to the medical
box only to find that it's empty, and she kicks
it and notices out the window that there's a military

(58:39):
helicopter that crashed through the mall's roof, and she says,
that's got to have something hang in there, Joel. Before
leaving the store, go into the office and sift for
a little more goodies around there. There's not really much there,
and you'll ultimately need to exit through the pharmacy's window
anyway to get to the other side of the Feder barrier.
So do that, and once you do, cut across and

(59:02):
go into Pixie Tech, which is a camera superstore. Yes,
outside there's a giant ad for sanwayo Cebe Dashes zero
three n digital Camera. Now we're gonna go through these
products as fast as I possibly can, because this is
a lot so Sanwyo. I would liken that to the
Sony brand, That's what I said.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
And I'm like, why didn't they just use Sony? Yeah,
like this could have been an opportunity for Sony to
advertise some old cameras. Right, it's not even just like
what the fuck is going on? Because she's got a
Sony Walkman. It was like, this is the craziest thing
in the world that they're like, we have to make
up all these fake cameras, but here we are.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Yeah, I know it made it. I don't understand it.
Maybe there's something with PlayStation studios versus Sony. Who the
fuck knows.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Well, it's fine, it's fine. There is something. There is
also something very funny about coming up with a fake
brand and fake logos. It's a good design exercise, I
will say that. But Sanueo objectively terrible name.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Yeah it's not great.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
I'm electronics company.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
No, but yeah, it's like Samsung, Sanueyo, Sony, Like, but
we're so used to those that it's just like ingrain Now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
I guess maybe a lot of maybe a lot of
electronics names were bad. Like I think back and I'm
like Magnavox.

Speaker 7 (01:00:30):
I used to love Magnavox, I know, but I'm like,
is that a good name or is that like a
name that we just have like an affinity for because
we grew up with it, like from Magnavox, Like large
voice is that what that means? I think great, great voice,
Like the Magna Carta is the great Charter and Vox's voice,

(01:00:50):
So Magnavox literally means great voice.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
There you go for a fucking TV for a television.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Right, And I'm like, what the fuck are we talking about?
I'm sorry, Yeah, we keep getting sidetracked.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
We really do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
I'm trying to Sebo three N digital camera.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Yeah, so let's go continuing through the product list. There's
lots of stuff on these shelves. So we have Line
brand camera batteries. We have Aroma with an O Aroma
capture card. You're filming uninterrupted. We have camera cables Finimax
color film with thirty two exposures perrole. Baby. We have

(01:01:28):
data cables Aroma one eight gigabyte memory card. We have
Fina thirty two gigabyte memory card. We have a Fina
point and shoot, a Sanwayo Vixta two camera. Lots of
cameras here, a lot of the repeats. Then we have
an Elite DSLR Sanwayo camera on a megas Ou, tripods,
camera bag scanners, old style video cameras, lots of the

(01:01:52):
same all around the store, on multiple shelves and here,
there and everywhere. Now bash the glass and reveal all
these cameras, which is hilarious. Because they are so fucking large,
these cameras. Literally, trying to hold one, you'd need two
full fucking hands stacked to grab the grip. Look, you know, no,

(01:02:13):
I know, But did anybody notice how big they were?
That's what she said. So crouch and go under. Crouch
and go under the collapsed part of the ceiling. And
on the other side of the store, it's more of
the same gear, but the studio lighting set up for
either portrait sessions or perhaps interactive ads, tutorials, things like that.
Crouch along another path until you're out of the camera

(01:02:35):
store and into the rarity now salon. There's pedicure chairs
with footpaths, cabinets, supplies and such are here and there
and everywhere, which I said before, but I'm saying it again.
There's a nice little supply hall here, which makes sense.
It makes sense to be found in a nail salon
with the alcohol and the supplies and the cloth and

(01:02:56):
the scissors and all that stuff. It makes sense. But
at the other end of the salon is a skeleton.
But grabbed the artifact lying on the ground ahead of
him first. So Andrew, would you like to read what
that artifact says?

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Yeah, I could do that. Chief Warrant Officer Larry Caufield
died bravely this afternoon. We were flying back to the
QZ when our patient turned. It must have been spores
because none of us saw the bite. The patient broke
through the restraints and fell upon our pilot, Wo Sean Brendan.
Even with the helicopter spinning out of control, Officer Cawfield

(01:03:30):
fought the infected patient, saving our lives. We crashed in
a rural Colorado mall. Private Eugene Ellis, Officer Cawfield, and
I were the only survivors. In subduing the affected Officer
Callfield was bitten on the neck. He immediately showed us
the bite and accepted his fate. I executed the infection
protocol before Officer Caufield could turn into an infected May

(01:03:53):
he rest in peace. Captain Reagan Francis, Fourth Infantry.

Speaker 8 (01:03:57):
Division, Denver, QZ, very good, nailed it and scene so
by the body there is an open medkit and Ellie says, ah,
no sutures.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Well, at least I can use this. What she grabbed
essentially was enabling us, as Ellie, to unlock health kits.
So now we can make our own U. But I've
been making my own anyway since the beginning because I
toggled all of that on, so why bother waiting? So
before we exit this store, I had a peek at
the services offered at the Rarity salon because I usually

(01:04:29):
I like to get my nails done and I'm curious
about the price as so some examples. Because there were
way too many, I was not listing that. I actually
had to yell at myself. I was like, don't fucking
write this, jack Manny's and petties range from ten to
fifteen dollars, which is fucking cheap. Nail are three to
ten dollars now that is per nail that is pernaal

(01:04:51):
me and acrylics eight to ninety dollars with many packages
available with all kinds of goodies involved. Okay, when I
get mound nails done, it's about seventy five. That's not terrible.
But hop over the table, pass the nail polish, and

(01:05:12):
leave the store. Go down the steps as far as
you can, and then hop over the railing to the ground.
But before we continue on, let's talk about some things.
So I don't know why this thought came to my brain.
I'm just gonna put it out here because this is
what I was thinking. Imagine being an alien coming to earth.
First of all, just the amount of shit that you
would see would just you'd be like what. But imagine

(01:05:36):
being an alien and explaining toys that people's toys play with.
This felt a little like an al out of body
experience going through the American Princess Dollar store. Yeah, like like, hey,

(01:05:58):
you know, imagine saying that they were like this inanimate
object which does not talk or perform in any way,
shape or form as a functioning member of society. I
had to buy this product for probably eighty dollars because
American Girl and Princess shit is not cheap. And then
on top of that, I bought my toy, a fucking toy.

(01:06:21):
So my doll, which can't move, has toys to play with.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Yeah, I have to have you have to go deeper
my toys toys need.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
It's too much.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
I don't know, maybe it's not enough. We don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
It just it hit me. I was like, we really
do this, Like we really do this all the time,
and it will be so strange clear.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
We don't do this.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
I mean, my books are not reading books, you know,
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
They're just this pile over here. These are the collecting
books that pile over there. That's also the collecting books.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
It's so oh my god, it was like an illness,
but it's wonderful anyway. Sure it could be drugs, babe,
it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
It could be right, could be heroin, but I'm not read.
Not just a lot of words, a lot of paper
products around the house.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Moving forward, the side story of the federal soldiers crashing
into the mall and one sacrificing himself for his infantrymen
and then being executed according to protocol is so heavy hitting.
So despite this moment being easily missed if you don't
care about artifacts and such, which I really do hope
people care about artifacts, especially people listening to our show,

(01:07:41):
it's just more proof of how tragic this story is
expanded beyond the borders of just Joel and Ellie and
even Jackson and I know that this is something that
we're probably going to talk about a lot more when
we start getting into part two, because of seeing things
from other characters which are strangers to us there point
of view and what they've gone through and understanding that

(01:08:03):
level of empathy that Naughty Dog wanted us to feel
and whatever when it comes to part two. But when
it comes to these tiny little bottle scenarios, I feel
like they're almost more sad than anything else, because like
the writing on the walls of the house in the
Last of Us, where it's like, Sarah, if you're reading this,

(01:08:23):
I went to such and such place at such and
such time, please meet me. And you never know if
those people met up. You never know if they made it. Like,
it's just tragedy. The story's so fucking tragic, sure, and
this one just like the heroism and then the sacrifice,
and it's so many examples of this. And it's even

(01:08:44):
more curious that it's heavy hitting because these are Fedra
soldiers whom we're supposed to hate. But it's still fucking sad,
all these human stories.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Yeah, and we get more from these people because it's
over the course of a you know, over the course
of the game, we learn more and more about their fate,
which is kind of a cool parallel thing that's happening.
It's it's what you said, it's missible, it's entirely miscible,
but it is incredibly enriching if you follow it through.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
So yeah, really, I really hope people do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
It's worth it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Yeah. So the detail, I know, the detail in this
game is a lot, and I've said that several times now,
but what I'm going to ask for the first time
ever is how much of this do you enjoy? Listeners?
Please let us know. And I'm just going to leave
it there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
It's getting dark.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
The delay.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
You gotta have a little bit of a pregnant pause.
It's good, all right, I'm gonna take us home. Yep.
Once you jump down to the bottom floor again, Ellie says,
here we go. It cuts to black and we are
now in the past with Riley and Ellie. So there's

(01:10:10):
rustling noises, hurried voices, and the sound of a vehicle
speeding off. Riley tells Ellie she's impressed with how fast
she was back there. Ellie sternly says thanks, and then
it's time we set off. So we have a little
bit of a conversation here, okay, a little bit of
a back and forth between Ellie and Riley. As you're
making your way. Ellie starts, so every time I stop

(01:10:33):
and start and the other person, here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Do you want me to just do Riley's lines.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Sure, Oh, we're gonna play act. Let's do it. Okay,
I gotta get the character here we go. Okay, So
how did you find them?

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Remember that firefly that you bit and stole his gun?

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Yeah, I remember him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
That's Trevor. I saw him walking down the street, so
I tailed his ass. I follow him into this alley
and all these fireflies ambushed me. They took me right
to their to their hideout. To Marlene, were you scared? Terrified?
I thought this time she would actually shoot me, but instead,
she says, it took you so long.

Speaker 8 (01:11:09):
She was expecting me, and she just made you a firefly.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Something like that. The whole almost killing me thing was
a test. She wanted to know that I was committed.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Oh and scene, that's the second time. It looks like
they've dropped into some sort of apartment building that Fedrick
co opted into another quarantine zone. Big warning sign, infectious
materials present. I'm glad Riley thought it was a good
idea to come here, you know, we in light of
the sign and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
So I mean, seriously, you run.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Up a set or two of stairs behind Riley, see
a lot of firefly propaganda all over the place here,
stuff like remember who we were? Fight for? What's yours?
Pass Room two or two? Two? More writing, this time
in purple? How long can they keep us safe? Continuing on,
things get more desperate, all caps out of options. They

(01:12:09):
killed your family and now you're their dog. Passroom two
to three. All of these are boarded up with fence
slash cages blocking off their stairwells. More and more and
more we have fedra, killed my parents. They feed themselves
while feeding us lies, and then finally rise up, fight Pedra.

(01:12:30):
Room two of five is half boarded up. Crouch and
enter beneath the boards. Once inside the apartment, you'll find
all the usual furnitures of a well lived space. So
we have cook closet and tables, lamps, mirrors, paintings on
the walls, an old cordless phone, answering machine, that sort
of thing answering machine if you know, you know, am

(01:12:50):
I right? I won't get into it. Ask your parents' kids.
Pass the entryway, you'll see the kitchens with all of
the kitchen with all of its bells and whistles, the room, bookshelves,
and a fireplace because even a grandfather clock. It's like, oh,
how about that. This is a very large apartment. Just
for the record, what were they paying per month? Yeah,

(01:13:12):
for a fireplace in an apartment? What were they paying?
The kitchen was ransacked the worst, surprising no one. So
they're leaving only some utensils and pans lying around. But
let's check out the books. Okay, okay, we're going to
just focus on the books. A bunch of magazines on
the floor leave issues a plenty. So the magazine is leave.

(01:13:34):
Sure it's a travel magazine. Packed nobody knows what Packed is.
And Rover too. I imagine it's either about dogs or cars.
I couldn't tell you. And we have book time. We
have the Goose Girl Classic Principles of Physiology, a manual

(01:13:55):
of gynecology, clinical anatomy, medical genetics, book of obstetrics. So
we have a little bit of an intellectual on our hands. Sure,
on the other side of the room, we have a
few more. On the other side of the room, we
have a few more Anna Karenina The Helmet of Havar
is what I'm going to go with there, Yeah, Emma, Emma,

(01:14:19):
and lots of the same titles from the other side.
So this person's clearly a hoarder like Jack, many copies
of the same book, just in various places of their.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Hall, and clearly they're of the medical profession.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Sure, but how many copies of the same book? You know?
How many copies of Emma do we need? Really? You know?
There was only one, I know on the floor, a
bunch of papers, some legible like travel itinerary, and then
some sort of submission for him, maybe college, you know,
who knows, grad school or something like that. There are
cans of spray paint with a male centric logo, rons

(01:14:55):
and all lighter fluid specs, lacquer thinner, and paintbrushes strewn
about on the coffee table. There are also felled photo
frames knocked over from the mantle above the fireplace. On
the countertop above the stove, there are opened cans of
food and cooking oil. So the brand is unknown because
you can't pivot the camera enough in photo mode, So

(01:15:17):
you know, I know, I mean, I have my gripes
about photo mode as well, so as they're well documented
earlier in this episode. You could see you can even
see inside the oven, and they haven't cleaned it in
a while, so they might want to just put it
on the self cleaning thing and let that roll leave
the living space, go down the hallway, Riley says, come on,
we're making good time. But before you follow her, obviously

(01:15:40):
you're going to want to check out that bathroom, right
because no apartment tour is complete without the bathroom. There's
not much left in here. We have a wooden shelf
with a few washcloths tossed about, odd lineup of four bottles,
labels unknown in a cascading order of tallest and smallest
decorative baskets, A giant mirror on the wall. An absolutely

(01:16:01):
filthy bathtub. I believe it was a claw bathtub in
this economy? Is this the right room am I thinking of?
Because I definitely saw a claw bathroom, a claw bathtub.
I think this is it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
No, it wasn't. This was just a flat one.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Somewhere in left behind is a claw bathtub, though sure,
I'm unbelievable. There's not much left here. Also a surprise,
so right outside the bathroom door is what looks like
shaving cream on the floor. Colt brand Extra Thick. You know,
got that extra thick shaving cream for.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
I'm an extra thick beard.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
I don't know why, I just I don't know what's happening.
Enter the final room in this place, the bedroom end. Boy,
it is not good. Rain is pouring in and there
is what I would describe to be a sizeable puddle here.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
Yeah, a lot of mold, A lot of mold.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
We're gonna have to call in the cleaners. Okay, way, this,
this whole situation is going to collapse in the very
near future. Let's just put it that way. Nature has
begun the reclamation. Before we follow Riley into the giant
hole in the ceiling, peep the side table or books
Surprise Surprise, Rise Without Time by Ryan Hayes, Guests of

(01:17:20):
Fond Memories by Donald mclofter, Age of Nature by unknown,
and Union of Heaven by Angelica something or other. Interesting
that a woman named angel Ecka would write a book
about heaven, So just you know's not that down in
your copy books everyone, I'm gonna be on the test. Later,

(01:17:44):
Ellie climbs up to meet Riley on the next level,
and this is where we will end for this episode.
But first we have a couple, couple, couple of things,
A couple.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
So walking through the hallways, noticing the cages, the fencing,
the blockades and such. This this must have been an
actual fucking nightmare. And I want to put ourselves in
the residence shoes. So one, I'm going with the assumption
that some of these residents were probably told to stay put.

(01:18:15):
But I mean, because otherwise, why block off access to
floors with only people with the keys able to get through?
If there were not people up there, why would you
need to get up there or go through that to
get to another level? Like what what? What would the
purpose of that be apart from keep the people in

(01:18:36):
their apartments who are unaffected.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Yeah, I don't know. I feel like it's just like a.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
A it's so rash, kind of a sequestering.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
You know, we're going to keep this floor and these
people here, and then this floor and these people here
and so forth and so on. So it's you know,
it reduces transmission potentially, you know, who knows, who knows?

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Oh god, people must have gone in fuckingsane though, Come on, yeah,
it's true, that is true. I mean, yeah, they were.
They were desperate and trying to fight back, and we
all know how that fucking goes. But next note is
hashtag video game ash shit. So we mentioned this with
the cameras I mentioned in the last section, but the size,

(01:19:24):
the size of the doors, the mirrors, the windows, everything
in this apartment makes Ellie look like this tiny little
bean of a teenage girl. Sure, and it is both
endearing but also hilarious. And I know we've talked about
this before where you're like it it is so hard
to make a door in a video game. Yeah, so

(01:19:46):
we don't have to go through that again, but I
just wanted to, like this, emphasized it so much, and
it's so fast. Like I told you when I watched
you playing the the DLC on Saturday, I was like,
you just blew through the entire first episode in the
six minutes that you played the game or whatever, and
you were like, wait, what.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
Yeah, I gotta go. I got stuff. We've got to
move forward, you know. That's the thing. We got to move.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
But there's so much it's densely packed, and I can't
skip over it, Like my completioness is like, no, you
need to. Some of the reviews I.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Have noted that specifically, the details, the details, so lose
your eyes and let us take you there.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
Yeah. And speaking of details, they might, while very fascinating,
they might be my undoing for this DLC.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
They will literally be the thing that drives me insane.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
The nuances of people who and this goes back to
the artifacts and the missible story, the nuances of these
people that have long ago either perished or been turned
or God even knows where they are now. Like this
home clearly belonged, most probably to an obgyn. And it's

(01:21:04):
interesting to me, and I wanted to talk about this,
which is why I left it for last. It's interesting
to me that they picked that particular medical profession because
it could have been a doctor of anything, optymology, brain surgeon,
cardiac surgeon, like it could have been anybody, and they

(01:21:26):
went with obgyn. And one of the books that you
listed was medical genetics. And I'm like, is this a
hint to the unseen storyline in the game that the
show showed us with Ellie's mother and Anna how she

(01:21:48):
was bitten moments before she gave birth to Ellie. Sure,
and I'm like, I know that I'm reaching more than likely.
But at the same time, what they get there, it's
there for a reason. Whatever that reason is, it might
we literally will never know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
My guess is that Craig Mason also noted every book
in the game, just like you did, including Baby Shadow.
Now maybe, Yeah, it's interesting. It's an interesting thing. I wonder,
here's the deal that I'm I'm super curious about. Obviously

(01:22:29):
we're playing what I would describe as the best version
of this game, in the Last of Us Part one. Sure,
I wonder how readable and those books are in the
original you know what I'm saying. If that was something
that they either enhanced or they were there and it
was maybe a little bit more difficult to read, but

(01:22:50):
it was always That's just an interesting thought process as well.
It's like they didn't change much, you know, but it
is always noteworthy to see what they did change.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Yeah, No, I agree. I mean we've seen a lot
of like Guests of Fond Memories and Union of Heaven
and things like that. Like we've seen these books even
back in the remaster. Yeah, and they kept them, but
they purposely got rid of Baby Shadow. And I know
we make I know, we make jokes example right there,
but why.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
A little on the nose, maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
Maybe a parent who loses their child, Like it's it's
just fascinating. So yeah, I just wanted to talk about
the potential link between like obstetrics and gynecology and medical genetics,
and Ellie being immune to this virus and bringing in
a little bit of the last of us on HBO
with Anna and that whole entire heartbreaking scene. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Yeah, kind of neat, kind of neat.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
Yeah. So that is the end of our first episode
of Left Behind, and I feel like, going forward again,
I'm not going to talk about a lot of the
things in the mall anymore because it's all been listed.
So now obviously different stores and things like that we'll
talk about. But I feel like I got a lot

(01:24:10):
of things out of the way in this, so the
detail might not be as heavy continuing forward, which is good.
But all that to be said, the emotional toll where
are you at, Andrew?

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
This is like pretty like this was low. This was
pretty baseline establishing type stuff, so I'd be comfortable at
like a two or three, you know, same somewhere real,
let's say two. This is mostly just like I met Riley.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Yeah, so that was.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
Interesting for me. But for the most part, it's a
lot of table setting right now.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
Yeah, especially with how this episode was broken down by US.
I gave it a three just because it's interesting to
me to see more of Ellie's background.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
I give to three just because three is the lowest
I can physically go.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Probably probably two just like makes me want to. Yeah,
So would you have survived? You know, there was really
only the one clicker.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Yeah, and I snuck by his ass. I didn't even
engage him in the game. So I think I would
have been Okay, I'm gonna say yes, finally, Okay, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Would have survived, clearly. Obviously I survived everything else. Duh.
The confidence is astounding.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Sure, sure, sure, sure.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
Oh my gosh. But that's that's episode one in the bag.
And thank you guys for being a little patient this
week and giving us an extra day to you know,
just process everything that happened and be off of social
media as best as we could and not doing anything
but what we needed to do for our peace of mind.

(01:25:57):
So appreciate it and appreciate you. So some contact details
of where you can find us Twitter, TLU podcast, Instagram,
TLU Podcasts with an S if you like to email
us and be on a future show that again, those
are coming up quick, Those are coming up quick. You
can do that at tlupodcast at gmail dot com if

(01:26:18):
you like to be part of our coffee which again,
this is the last episode that we'll have pre and
post show, which goes out to everyone at both tiers.
Next week starts just you know, people getting their exclusive
perks going forward, so just keep that in mind. But
if you would like to join, it is ko dash
fi dot com, slash t lou podcast, and Andrew will

(01:26:40):
be having a What's Andrew Playing episode shortly especials, so
that'll be fun to hear those updates. And I'm excited
to fall that our website which we'll have our IKI
series if you know, you know shortly it's www dot
dot com. And a reminder that the last cast will

(01:27:03):
return in early twenty twenty five when the show premiere
Season two premieres on HBO slash Max. And next week
we are tackling another episode of Left Behind. I will
probably try to curb some more details.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
We'll calibrate based on your feedback. How that sounds let
us know, and if you say more details, we will
ignore your feedback.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
There are no more details to give right there are now.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
Literally at one hundred and ten percent detail right now.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
Yeah, for the best I can do is one hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
We talked about the thickness of shaving cream. Okay, I
just want to get in there and let you know
that happened.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
Uh, some special announcements, actually, Andrew, how about you take
the special announcements.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
Oh, we want to do the shout outs, you know
for these coffee people, people who love coffee, they love
us and their names are as much the Ghost of
Mister Joel, Mari, Kiara, Dustin t. Wander On, Brian Jim Zydrate,
Kelsey Kryptonian, Jedi, Ozzy, Ellie and of course I don't

(01:28:13):
play favorites, but you know, Baby Shadow. Yeah, thank you
all so much. It's incredible. You know, I just wanted
to want to sometimes I just like, you know, take
a beat, you know, thanks all, thank you for supporting
the show. It's incredible. Thank you for the reviews that
you have left. Also specifically Ozzy calling you out. And uh,

(01:28:35):
and I don't know if maybe Abby Maybe is part
of this group, Maybe Abby Maybe is Baby Shadow. Do
we know who Baby Shadow is or.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
Mister I'm not well, I don't want to reveal that
because I'm just saying I don't know if they're comfortable
with that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
Royal we no, yeah, okay, yeah, right, that's fine, cool,
that's awesome. All right. You know, here's what else I'm
going to say, though too realistically, this is your old
pally Andrew talking just off the record, on the record.
But like you know, this show, we keep getting more
and more friends entering the fray and that is thanks
to you sharing the show with your friends, rating us,

(01:29:15):
recommending us, that sort of thing. So if you have
it in your heart, you haven't done it. You're listening,
You're like, man, this is a lot of detail. I'd
I'd like to thank them. Go ahead on iTunes throw
us a five star and if you're so you know, generous,
you got a little bit of time, write a nice
review and we'll read it and we'll shout you out
on the episode, the next major episode that we do.

(01:29:36):
So sound good, I love it, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
So yeah, you heard Andrew. Y'all. We love you, we
appreciate you, and we'd love to hear from you. So
update on Wayfair and West. We actually did some work
on that future trip west next year. We did some
work and on that tonight actually, and we'll talk about
that more in the coming months before it happens and

(01:30:03):
I'm so excited for that. We're going to do some
things a little differently and it's going to be amazing.
So lots coming and uh yeah, thanks to the wonderful
response to this show. I don't have anything more to say.
Andrew said it perfectly. We love you. Thanks for being
here every week and showing up for us and reaching
out to us and becoming friends. And I mean just
texts that I've received and messages we've received and especially

(01:30:27):
this week have been m We love you very much
and appreciate you even more so.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Yeah, okay, bye, you get back here.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
What you have to you have to you have to
send us all I've done.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
I gotta got it. Okay, fine, here we go until
we're resisting the powers that be and the heavy boot
on our neck next week. This is where we shake
the Kansas spray paint and prep the walls. It's just
thinking of that imagery as a real, real, real depressing
contrasted to the way I read it, real upbeat the.

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
Boot on our neck. Yeah, do you want to read
it again?

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
No, keep this in. It's important.

Speaker 1 (01:31:13):
I'm learning everyone ships hitting the wall. I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
That's a phrase. Ship's really hitting the wall.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
Oh my gosh, thank you guys. We'll see we'll chat
again next week. Bye bye. Stay safe out there. Actually
I want to say that, just stay safe out there,
keep your head and keep going.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
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