Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone 09-17-25 Hour 2

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Warning, the Root, the Root, the Roots on fire.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's time war war. Here's your host.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
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the warrior, Wayne Allen Roots.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
All right, Wayne A Root, the Root is on fire.
If you were just with us.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
For the interview with Naomi Wolf I mentioned this article
Smoking gun study exposes direct evidence linking the COVID vaccines
to turbo cancer and explosive new studies uncovered. What experts
are hailing the first direct evidence that provides exou me
that proves COVID mRNA vaccines was deadly turbo cancers. For years,

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Big Pharma assisted and so did FDA officials, that it
was impossible for mRNA COVID injections to alter human DNA.
Any suggestion otherwise was smeared as misinformation and people who
talked about it were called conspiracy theorists. I always say
every single conspiracy theory I ever talked about on this show.

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Every single one of them has come true. Because I'm careful,
I don't talk about every conspiracy theory in the world.
You know, there's new ones out there now, and I
actually hear right wingers believe them. And it's the stupidest
thing I've ever heard in my life. Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
Israel ordered to hit on Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
You know you're all gonna look like fools on that one.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Israel doesn't kill American Maga stars. Israel gets all their
money from America, all their military from America, all the
guarantee of backup military from America.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
If that ever came.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Out and anybody proved it even somewhat true, Israel would
risk every single bit of support. They would lose all
the money they get from Christian Evangelical Christians who go
to church in America, who are the biggest supporters of Israel.
Israel does not kill Charlie Kirk. Israel gain nothing by
killing Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
See.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
That's a dumb conspiracy theory put out by Candice Owens,
and she already looks like a fool because the billionaire
that was supposedly meeting with him in the Hampton today
just released all of his texts between him and Charlie.
Everyone said there was a meeting and he threatened his
life and Charlie knew he was gonna be killed by Israel,

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and the billionaire released the text after the meeting.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
After the meeting, him and Charlie were.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Like, Hey, great, Senia, when are we getting together with
our wives for dinner?

Speaker 1 (03:11):
I mean, this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever
heard in my life. The COVID vaccine killing people.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
That's not a conspiracy theory, that's a fact. Okay, Israel
killing Charlie Kirk. If you believe in that, you are
the dumbest.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Person in the world.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Anyone who believes in that, anyone who propagates that, who
spreads that, is a complete moron. Israel gains nothing by
killing Charlie Kirk. Israel risks their entire existence by killing
an American MAGA star who Donald Trump thought of as
almost a son. That's the stupidest.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Thing I've ever heard.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
So see, there's the dipsteine having judgment and understanding, which
conspiracies to talk about on TV and which ones to
not talk about on TV. Did Ukraine maybe kill Charlie
Kirk because he talked against you the war in Ukraine?

Speaker 1 (04:00):
It possible.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Did Russia kill Charlie Kirk because I don't know Putin
doesn't like him.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
I don't know. Did China kill him? I'm sure he
said lots of bad things about China.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
All those are possible because their enemies of America, North
Korea's enemy of America, they kill him.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Maybe. I think most.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Likely, Charlie Kirk was unknown by all these countries. He's
only known by American liberals who know that he goes
to colleges and debates college students. So it's very likely
that transgender queer armed revolutionary Marxist nutjobs who trained in
Cuba under communist administration came back to America and plotted

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the death of Charlie Kirk with a little help from
Antifa and maybe the Democrats Socialists of America. I just
saw an article that money was transferred to the Democrats
Socialists of America to the assassin's bank accounts. This is
a communist. The only person Charlie Kirk hurt was American
liberals and Democrats.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
That's it. He had nothing to do with Israel. Israel
didn't kill Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
It was only in the interest of Democrats to get
rid of Charlie Kirk because he was converting college students
to Donald Trump and MAGA and the Republican Party. They
had every reason to do it, and Israel has no
reason to do it. So stop with the Israel talk. Okay,
I just had to get that off my chest. So
I'm this thing I've ever heard. Israel doesn't kill American

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Republican MAGA stars.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
If Israel wanted to kill.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Someone, they would kill three quarters of the people on
the left who hate Israel. And they've never attempted the
assassination of a single left wing anti.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Israel person in America.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
How come no one from Israel's ever tried to kill
elan Omar or Rashida Talib or AOC or Bernie Sanders,
a Jew who hates Israel and wants to stop all
funding of Israel. How come they're all alive? Why would
they want to hit Charlie Kirk? Come on, how stupid
can you be? Stop talk like that? All this is

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part of blood libel Jew hatred. You want to blame
the Jews for everything in the entire world. Everything that
goes wrong on Earth has to be blamed on Jews.
And it's just getting ridiculous. Okay, So there's a dumb conspiracy.
There is no motive for Israel to kill Charlie Kirk.
He was not Israel's biggest critic. No one in Israel

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knew Charlie Kirk was. There are probably five people walking
the streets to Tel Aviv who've.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Ever even heard of Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
But every liberal at every college knew Charlie Kirk. Every
transgender and queer knew Charlie Kirk and.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Didn't like him. Okay, so there's your suspects.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
Wow, there is some weird stuff on the internet that
is really bad evil because you just want to blame
Jews for everything bad in the world, which is ridiculous.
Sh And you want to blame Israel for everything bad
in the world.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Maybe you should blame instead.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Of a nation of six million Jews, it's a nation
surrounded by over a billion Muslims, six million Jews versus
what is it like one point five billion Muslims in
the world. Almost all surrounding Israel. Maybe you should blame them,
not the Jews. How does a nation of six million
Jews get pr out versus nations with oil and the

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oil wealth like Saudi Arabia and countries that have one
point five billion Muslims. But in any case, the new
case report, authored by world renowned experts, documents the first
direct molecular evidence that mRNA vaccine material integrated into the
genome of a young woman who developed aggressive stage four

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bladder cancer within a year of completing a MADERNA three
dose regimen.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Study was co authored by doctor Peter mccull, a.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Great friend of mine, doctor John Catizaro, and Nicholas Hulcher.
These findings published expose what public health authorities long denied
synthetic mRNA can embed itself in human DNA. The patient,
a thirty one year old woman, developed fast moving, deadly

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blad of cancer months after vaccination. The fast developing and
aggressive cancers have been dubbed turbo cancers by leading oncologists.
Comprehensive sequencing reveal a twenty base pair spike gene segment
integrated into chromosome nineteen, aligning with a Pheiser plasmid reference sequence.

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The study links vaccine mRNA material directly to tumor development,
offering a biological mechanism behind the explosion of turbo cancers
reported worldwide. And by the way, a great friend of
mine who I love dearly in California, believe it or not,
just told me that he's got tumors all over his
lungs and they're now trying to figure out if they're

(09:01):
cancerous or not. And of course I said, did you
get the vaccine? Uh huh, yeah, I got the vaccine.
Why Wayne, It just never ends. My friends are dropping
dead left and right, and all of them are vaccinated.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Terrible, Ran Paul dismantles XCDC chief. In a brutal.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Senate showdown, the XCDC director, doctor Susan Monarez, attempted to
smear RFK Junior and build pressure for him to resign,
but things did not go according to plan. After a
bunch of softball questions from Bernie Sanders and other Democrats,
Rand Paul asked if the COVID vaccines actually stop transmission?

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Does the COVID vaccine prevent transmission? And this Monorez Lady
former CDC right CDC or FDA CDC chief She said
the CODE vaccine can reduce viral load in individuals who
are and Paul said, does it prevent transmission? And she said,

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when you have reduced viral load, you will have reduced transmission.
And Paul said, in other words, it doesn't prevent transmission.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
You could still transmit the.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Virus if you've had the vaccine. Paul then turned to children.
He asked Monorez if the COVID vaccine was indicated for children,
sho children have gotten it.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
She repeated the.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Same line, it can reduce hospitalization and death. Paul said,
does the COVID vaccine reduce hospitalization for children? And Monorez
said it can, and Paul fired back, it doesn't. The
statistics are inconclusive. And the reason you can't prove that
it does is there's so few people under eighteen that

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go to the hospital. The numbers are extraordinarily small. When
he pressed further about whether the vaccine reduces death and children,
Monerez again answered it can.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
That's when Paul shut it down.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
You find, Paul said, rand Paul, you find there is
a a micronitis in young men and boys. That's a
significant event heart problems. It's summerching six and eight and
ten thousand. But that's much greater than the risk of
hospitalization or death, which you're not even measurable because they're
so small. In other words, you had zero chance of

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your kid going to a hospital or getting really.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Sick or dying, but you had a real chance.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
That your child would get massive heart problems from a
vaccine that was meant to solve the problem of whether
your child would get sick and go to a hospital
when they had no chance of getting that sick or
going to a hospital.

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Thank you, doctor rand Paul. We'll be right back. I'm
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Good to see you again.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
All right, wait now, Rude, I'm back.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
We live in such a strange world. Look at this
news that's out right now, breaking news. Elon Musk has
dropped a bombshell publicly calling for the arrest of politicians
involved in a massive money laundering scheme of taxpayer money
through non government non governmental organizations NGOs. He calls for
Attorney General Pam Bondi to put the hammer down on
the culprits immediately.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
I guarantee it as all Democrat politicians.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Here's another crazy one State department sever's ties with Armed
Queers affiliated NGO Marxist group Nuke's socials.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Here's some of the highlights.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Armed Queers Salt Lake City is under investigation for possible
knowledge and advance of Charlie Kirk's assassination. Their leader, Ermia Fanayan.
I know she's a Iranian. I don't know if she's
a transgender, just a queer. Was recognized by a State
department affiliated ngo, Utah Global Diplomacy, as a recipient of

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the seven Verse seventeen Award for advancing the United Nations
seventeen Goals. Utah Global Diplomacy has since scrubbed her presence
from their website. Here are more details from the Blaze
see if I can find a few details here. This
could prove consequential for the NGO, as the bulk of

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its funding takes the form of government grants.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
We are taking aggressive action to ensure that.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Any implementor that has any relationship whatsoever with this radical
organization is completely cut off from any State Department engagement,
said the source. Marco Rubio revealed this weak sectory of
state that the department has also been revoking visas of
individuals who celebrated the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Armed. This is the New York Post headline. Armed Queer group's.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Founder investigated in Charlie Kirk shooting is a radical trans
leftists who advocated violence. In my understanding, she's not just
a radical trans leftist who advocated violence, but a radical
trans Iranian. I mean, we're just dealing with such sick stuff.
What's going on in our country. We have been invaded,

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we have been subjugated.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
I mean, it's just absolutely sickening.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Over one hundred radical leftist teachers in Texas will have
their certificates for teaching suspended and face permanent ban from
public schools after celebrating Charlie Kirk's assassination and calling for
more Some of them called for more violence, and this
is what led to Charlie's death, the left calling him names,

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naziing this and that, and the left with lies. Charlie
said that we should stone gaze. Charlie never said any
such thing. Liars, liars, pants on fire, liarsbelievable.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Hate crime charge.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
A young woman is facing hate crime charges after assaulting
a fellow pastor in a violet unprovoked attack on a
Manhattan subway train.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
This report of the New York Post today.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
She called him a white boy and then brutally attacked him,
which means it's.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
A hate crime. It's a hate crime.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
She began striking the rider in the face multiple times
while hurling slurs, shouting white boy and cracker. The repeated
punches left the victim with a bloody nose, and she's
been charged with a hate crime, hate crime.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Her name is Genesis Gittens.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Had just celebrated her twentieth birthday and was yelling when
a twenty eight year old man sitting near by glanced
in her direction, and that's when she began shouting white
boy and cracker and attacked him, violently attacked him. I'm
telling you, we need to change the definition by the
way of hate crime.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
It can't be by the way. It can't be just
white as in white or black as in race. Because
of what happened.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
With Charlie Kirk, it should be changed to politics as well.
So in other words, if you kill someone or attack
someone because of their political beliefs, that's a hate crime.
It's not just because you hate them because they're white
or black. You hate them because they're a Republican or
a conservative or MAGA. We need to change that. We

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need to change that, all right, VR, I'm gonna recommend
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in the next two weeks, going to see the President.
That's one thing I'd like to recommend to him. Also,
amend the Civil Rights Act of what is in nineteen
sixty four. I think Civil Rights Act says you can't
be prejudiced against anyone stopped them for renting, or stop
them that'd me a job because of their race.

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And their political beliefs.

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ABC has pulled Jimmy Kimmel Live indefinitely off the air
over offensive remarks about Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Off the air.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
And it all started because Next Star, which is pretty conservative.
Next Star is one of the biggest syndicators of Jimmy
Kimmel's show. I think they have like twenty five different
TV stags around the country of the air, and they
have just kicked him off the air because.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Of his comments.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
And that reverberated to upstairs to ABC itself and they said, well,
we just can't have this anymore. Without those twenty five
stations carrying Jimmy Kimmel, maybe we can't carry him at all.
So now he's off the air, he's taking indefinite leave.
I would hope that means he's off.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
The air period and he will never be back. But
we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
I mean, it's not like it's a highly rated show
so they would cover up and pay him as millions.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
No, it's a low rated show.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Nobody's watching anymore because these liberal morons have gotten rid
of half their audience by pissing off all conservatives.

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Boys. That exciting stuff.

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All right, we've got our guest, Jeffrey Gilson, attorney, former
speech writer for British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, one of
my favorite all time, you know, leaders, prime ministers, presidents
of a country.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
I mean, just a.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Great, great lady, Margaret Thatcher. He was the speech writer
jeff Gilson. Welcome to the Wayne Deller Route Show.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
How are you.

Speaker 6 (25:05):
Well, Whine. I'm great, and thank you very much for
having me on the show.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
All right, so are you still in England by the way,
you're an U K guy right now as we speak
to you.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
No, No, I am now.

Speaker 7 (25:16):
I am now native to upstate South Carolinas. Were in
fact American, but I was born on an Air Force
base in London, and I spent my first half of
my life.

Speaker 6 (25:26):
There and then I moved back here.

Speaker 7 (25:27):
Never lost the English accent or the flack and but
I now live in.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
Upstate South Carolina and a little bit.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Well, welcome to the United States. We were honored to
have you.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
I'm a big fan of Margaret Thatcher, just as I
was a big fan of Ronald Reagan or contemporary and
I always thought Maggie was great. Charlie Kirk's assassination your reaction,
and I just want to let you know my reaction
is the assassination was horrible.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Enough, but and shocking enough, you know.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
And he's on my TV network right my TV shows
on Real America's Voice TV.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
So's Charlie. So shocking to me.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
But even that paled in comparison to the reaction from
people celebrating his death. I never thought i'd see something
like that in my entire life, let alone in America,
let alone with decent people. It's so confusing to me. Well,
it's not confusing anymore. The left hates us and they
want us dead.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
That's what I think. There could be no unity in
this country anymore.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
We're head of free the Civil War or natural divorce
because these people hate us with a red hot passion.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
The left hates us. That's my reaction to what just happened.
Let's hear yours.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
My reaction is similar but not quite the same.

Speaker 7 (26:44):
And I don't mind having taking a different stance to you,
and I'm sure you don't mind because in taking that
different stance waye, we are doing the very thing Charlie
Kirk stood for having different points of view and listening
to them. I write speeches from Margaretage. I would say
now I would describe myself as a practical liberal. I'm
no longer a Democrat. I was democrat for a while.

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I have stopped being a Democrat because they lost their
way over the last thirty years.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
I agree.

Speaker 7 (27:11):
I think at the moment the primary word that we
should be listening to everywhere, and with a lot of things,
including the awful stabbing a few weeks ago, that young
the Ukrainian girl, his reaction. It's not so much what's happening,
but with for instance, with that Ukrainian girl, it was
the reaction of the people around her who did nothing.
And as with Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk was fourthright. He

(27:34):
was very furthright with his views, as are you, as
am I on occasion. But words are not violence. Words
actually do not inspire violence. Violent people are violence. But Dwayne,
words can hurt. And I'll tell you something, if Charlie
Kirk was alive right now, he would be looking at

(27:56):
all of the various reactions to his death with horror,
and he would be saying, to both sides, left and
right people, what.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
Was I about?

Speaker 7 (28:04):
I was about going onto campus and inviting other points
of view and listening to them with respect. There is
passion at the moment, and there is concern, but no
one should be canceling anyone. We should all of us
express what we feel calmly. But that said, some of
the stuff that has been coming from those people I

(28:24):
regarded as my former.

Speaker 6 (28:25):
Liberal friends is horrific.

Speaker 7 (28:27):
It is absolutely horrific, And I want to ask a
different view.

Speaker 6 (28:32):
Understand, and I'd be interested to hear what you have
to say about this.

Speaker 7 (28:36):
I'm not entirely sure that Tyler Robinson was acting on
his own, but we only have fifteen minutes. We don't
have an hour to go into that. But let's say
up to and through the trial, where we if he
actually makes it to the trial. If we end up
learning that this twenty two year old and some friends
organized what was a very proficient assassination, I'm not trying

(28:59):
to be a sympathetic here. We're in trouble because you
talk about the possibility of civil war when I was
twenty two.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
I don't know about you, Wayne.

Speaker 7 (29:09):
If somebody said something political that upset me, it was
all I could do to organize a march. We are
told these people were upset over a very short period
of time. If you watch everything that goes on on
this campus, and I think you know, I wrote a
book called Maggie's Hammer, which I wrote after spending thirty
years investigating the death of a friend in England. And

(29:31):
you have to have starting points. My starting point with
the death of Charliekirk, and I've investigated a lot of assassinations.
Now is whether you want to use the word professional
or not, is proficient. I've just spent the last seven
years of my life on a campus, going back to
school late in life. It's not easy to get onto
campus carrying bags, dressed in black, wearing sunglasses. It's definitely

(29:53):
not easy to get onto a roof. It is not
easy to take a shot. One shot kills shot one
hundred and fift the odds, Get off the roof, get
off the campus. Everything that I see and read about
this says to me, this is extraordinarily proficient. So if
he was a lone gumban operating but a few friends
in their twenties, we are looking at a reaction that

(30:16):
is considerably more proficient than it used to be.

Speaker 6 (30:20):
And that's worrying.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Yeah, and I agree, I think the whole thing smells.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
To be honest with you, Rancid, I don't think he
was the only He may have been the only shooter,
but he certainly had a lot of help. It was
not him alone. I think his friend's help. They were
on a discord group. They seem to be radical, violent Marxist.
They call themselves queers. I'm always careful. I hate Jeffert
even use that word queer because to me that sounds

(30:44):
like the N word for black people. But gays like
to be called queer now, and their organization is called queer,
So it seems like radical queer, armed queer Marxist transgender
killers who trained in Cuba, who bragged that they just
got back in May from training to shoot, to kill
and start a revolution.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
They trained in Cuba.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
So I think this is the group, my gut says,
that had an agenda against Charlie on college campuses, trying
to convince people to be conservative and to be maga
and to love Trump and maybe to not be so
you know, to be very Christian. And they were offended
by all that, and they put forth one guy to
do it who knew how to shoot, but they all

(31:25):
helped along the way, and they all knew it was
going to happen. That's my gut how this all happened.
I don't know whether it's true or not. We'll find out.
I know he didn't do this act. He didn't act
completely alone. There's no way. There's no way. But the
story smells because here's the part at least says one
last thing, Jeffrey, one last thing. It doesn't make sense
that he took his gun apart, which is not easy

(31:46):
to do, and then while it was a part, he
climbed down the parking structure, ran to the park across
the street, and then put it back together again to
leave it in the middle of the park.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
The story doesn't make sense. There's something wrong anyway.

Speaker 7 (32:02):
I'll I'll just say we don't have enough time in
this show.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
But I would add one rejoinder to what you say.

Speaker 7 (32:09):
If the man that we see in the video is
Tyler Robinson right right.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Where, if he's the guy who even did it, don't
forget these two other guys who said I did it
and they did into it.

Speaker 7 (32:22):
No, there is a photograph making the rounds. I've been
trying to find out if it's saying I or not.
It was released at the same time the FBI released
their face phantographs of a man wearing very similar clothing
and it was mixed up with the Tyler Robinson pictures.

Speaker 6 (32:38):
But it's not Tyner Robinson.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Interesting, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Listen, the big conspiracy overnight everyone's been setting it to
me is that he was Charlie Kirk was assassinated by Israel.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
And to me, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
This one country in the world that has no interest
in ever ever taking the slightest chance in upsetting America.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
It would be Isra.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
They would lose all support, all military funding, all moneys
from the you know, born again Christian community, all the
churches in Americans support Israel.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
They would never kill an American.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Republican conservative Maga star in a million years.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Stupidest thing I've ever heard, But you know you got it.
Look at all angles. I get it, and you never
look down at any angle. We're heading to a break.
Don't go anywhere. I want to keep you for another segment.

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this you mentioned quickly in the first part of the interview,
the shocking murder of the twenty three year old white
gal from Ukraine in Charlotte, North Carolina. She was a
refugee from Ukraine Arena Zarutska on a train in Charlotte
and she was surrounded by an all black passenger group

(38:43):
and nobody went to help her. A black guy killed her.
And I think it should be a charge as a
hate crime. He said, you know, I killed a white girl.
He said those words, and so I don't know why
it hasn't been charged as a hate crime. He's a
fourteen time offender to Carlos Brown, but they only charging
with murder, not with a heat crime.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
But we know of that it's the other way around.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
If a white policeman kills a black guy, it's always
called a hate crime.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I just think we should start being fair in this country.
I have no problem with using the term of heat crime.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
But it's just as bad when a black kills are
white as when a white kills a black. That's what
I see in that story is that it should have
been designated as a hate crime.

Speaker 7 (39:24):
Well, I'll tell you what one. And I don't mind
being controversial on this one. We spoke about at the
beginning how at the moment, the way Americans, all of
us liberal conservative Americans, are reacting to events isn't casting
a very good light on any of us.

Speaker 6 (39:41):
And the gentleman who's.

Speaker 7 (39:43):
Stabbing he's a terminutly that the white Ukrainian girl is
bad enough.

Speaker 6 (39:49):
But what really struck me.

Speaker 7 (39:50):
What really bothered me, I say this is a liberal American,
is that the people around her did nothing. And it's
time for some hard conversations and some hard truths in
this country. If you're going to go there you have
to say every single one of the people around her
was black. Right now, let me just say, let me
just say, let me just say this to the absolutely
even handed way. If it is the case that we

(40:11):
have a hard conversation and we agree at the end
of that hard conversation that we have so harmed the
African American community through slavery, plantation, horrors, segregation, whatever, that
we need massive restorative action to make them feel a
part of the community so that they don't stand aside
and watch a white girl died because of the color
of her skin.

Speaker 6 (40:32):
Let's go there.

Speaker 7 (40:33):
But equally, if it is the case that there is
a community where there are members who believe in violence
and leghilism, that's where we have to go. Equally, if
there's a community, you know, that's where we have to go,
and it is time to hold this. There's hard conversations
without somebody screaming racist the whole time. There are between

(40:54):
the Charlie can't chekirk murder, assassination rather and this these
people standing by and doing nothing, all of whom are black.
There are difficult subjects that we need to address.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah, and you're talking about the fact they stood by
but I think the big issue is still the fact
that he's a four time, fourteen time offender and he's black,
and he said I killed a white girl. So to me,
that's you know, I understand they didn't help. That's a
big issue. But to me, the biggest issue is was
it a hate crime? I think it clearly was. When
you say, you know, I did the white girl, I
think at that point it clearly becomes a racial issue

(41:30):
and it should be charged that way. Just like the
very high profile killing in Texas of that kid named
Austin Metcalf who was a white football player and he
was sitting, you know, he's standing in the tent that
was sponsored by his high school, and the black kids
sat down and it wasn't his school and he had
no right to sit there. And the white kid said, hey,
you shouldn't be here. This is our tent. And the

(41:52):
black kids said, yeah, well I'm here, and the white
kids said, well, you gotta leave, and the black kid
plunged him in the chest with a knife and right
into his heart and killed him on the spot. Why
aren't these hate crimes if a white guy does it
to a black guy.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
I also agree it's a hate crime.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Why isn't it a hate crime when a black guy
does it to a white guy.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
It's racism. You call it reverse racism. It's racism.

Speaker 7 (42:16):
Well yeah, I'm not sure if we have time before
the next break.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
If we don't know, we got we got one minute,
one minute, last, we're counting.

Speaker 6 (42:27):
Okay.

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The small d democratic system in America works. What doesn't
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Speaker 1 (42:39):
All right.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Jeffrey Gilson, attorney, former speech writer for British Prime Minister
Maggie Thatcher.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Great to have Yon.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Appreciate your opinions and always love to have a good
debate and a good discussion.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Thank you, Jeffrey. Great to have Yon. Bye bye. We're
done for the day. That's it.

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