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Here's your host, one hundred percent raw truth, one hundred
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All right, Wayne all it is on fire. Welcome back
to the show. Today is Tuesday. Sorry I missed yesterday.
I was out for one day because I was in Washington, DC.
I don't know how many of you know, but I
had a private audience with the President of the United States,
President Donald J. Trump, the greatest president of my lifetime,
one of the greatest presidents in the history of America,
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is certainly one of the top five in the history
of America. And I've got a few photos from my
trip to share with all of you who are watching
as opposed to listening. Because this is a simulcast, it
is a video podcast slash TV show as well as
a radio show. Nationally syndicated. So I've got some photos
to share with you. I hope that the guys have
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them over at Patriot TV. We could put them up
on the screen and I'll describe what you're seeing. If
you put them up on the screen, boys, so and
then I'll know you've got them. If you don't have them,
then I guess, I guess I'm in the wrong place here.
What's going on? Where are the photos? Guys? I know
they we're sent to you, So they're supposed to be there.
All right, Well, i'll assume you don't have them. I
don't know what's going on. I'll have them by the
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next break. I'll tell you that much. They're supposed to
have them, and they should be up on the screen
as we speak. Come on, guys, getting them back on now?
Is that what you're telling me? Yeah? Okay, all right,
Well I told him I was gonna open the show
with the pictures. So what can I tell you. I'll
move on and just tell you, oh, there we go,
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there we go. All right, So give me the picture.
Go ahead, put it up on the screen. Let me
describe what people are seeing. They were like eight pictures,
so I want them all up there. So there's one photo,
and that's me and my lovely wife, Cindy. By the way,
everywhere we went in Washington, d C. I met with
senators and with congressmen. I met with State Department, I
met with DOJ. I met with the President of the
United States all of his staff. Everybody said the same thing.
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Your wife is gorgeous. Man, Wow, you got some wife.
She's number two in America to Milania. Let's put it
that way. Milania is one and Cindy's one. A. There's
President Trump staring right at Cindy. I'm like, I'm in
the room to President I'm here too. Oh come on,
he's staring right at Cendy his legs. That's my kind
of guy, all American guy. That's me in front of
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the DOJ Department of Justice, where I was going to
meet with my buddy, who's the assistant Dave to me
ag of the United States of America, Ed Martin, and
also the special prosecutor tasked with putting Letitia James Adam
Schiff in prison. I had a long talk with him.
There is my wife and I with President Trump. I
think we got a cut more photos. There's one with
me having a deep discussion with President Trump. We had
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a really important discussion which I won't tell you, but
I never share things like that, but it was a
good discussion. And there is the challenge coin that President
Trump gave me. Not many people have those in the
whole world. Challenge coin. That's the front and that's the back.
The back is his family crest. His family crest is
on the back of that, the Trump family crest. On
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the front is United States of America. President of the
United States of America. So it was a beautiful, beautiful
trip and a beautiful visit to the Oval Office and
my friend ed Mark the DOJ to find out what's
going on there, and I think we're gonna have some
good news very soon, preferably tomorrow, and a great meeting
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at the State Department with my great friend Lee Lipton,
who's in charge of OAS office. I think it's Office
of Administration of American States. I think is what OAS
stands for. But he's basically an ambassador in charge of
I think it's thirty one Latin American countries and he
is just an unbelievable guy. Lee Lipton's a superstar. Thank you, Lee.
We had dinner with Lee last night. Cindy and I
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really fantastic stuff. So it was a great trip all
the way around. Everything was a dream. I mean it's
a memory of a lifetime. How many people ever get
to go to the Oval Office? Not many. And I
didn't even mention that we were at the Oval Office.
It wasn't just me at the Oval Office for a meeting.
And brought my wife Cindy there too. It was Natasha
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Owens and her husband Dave, and they were there because
she is this you know, angelic singer, Christian singer with
an angelic voice. I mean her voice makes you melch.
You got such great voice. And she sang the song
Trump One and you know It and went to number
one in the world. And then I co wrote with
her a song called The Chosen One about Donald Trump,
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and it was all about inspired by my Newsmax TV days.
By the way, I'll be a guest on news Max
TV today at five fifty my time here on the
West Coast eight fifty East Coast time tonight with Rob Finderty.
Is it fit Erty? I think that's you to pronounce it.
I will be his guest to talk about America and Israel,
and some some tweets that I put out about Tucker
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Carlson and Candice Owens, how they're dividing our country and
dividing our party and try to turn everyone into a
Jew hater, which is disgusting and disgraceful, and it's got
to stop it. It's got to stop now. And I'll
be talking about that tonight on Newsmax eight to fifty
East Coast Time. But I was the elite anchor and
host on Newsmax, and I I was the guy who
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when someone called in because I took Collins and someone
called in and said, you know, we know you're Jewish, Wayne,
Why did Jews so hate Trump? And I said, well,
in America, and this is off the top of my head,
of course, in America they made Trump. But in Israel
they're named me train stations after him, and soccer teams
and roads and highways Trump Israel. They love him there.
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They love him more than they love and he is
rarely president ever or prime minister ever. And I said,
they love him like he's the King of the Jews
and he's the chosen one. And Trump walked out the
next morning on the White House lawn in front of
the White House Press Corps and said, Waynwarod said it,
I am the Chosen One, and as a joke, it
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was funny, and I said it as a as a
kind of a wise ass comment. Right, Trump isn't hated.
Trump's loved by Jews in Israel. He's like the king
of the Jews and the chosen One. That wasn't meant
to be a serious comment. It was meant to be
a funny comment, comedic, and Trump's was meant to be comedic.
But the world media hates me and hates Trump, took
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it as a serious thing and it became the biggest
news story in America, the biggest firestorm in America, media
firestorm in America and Israel at across the world. Christians
were debating, Jews and Israel were debating, who is this
Wayne Ruth that called Trump the king of the Jews
and the Chosen One? Who made Wayne Ruth the guy
who decides that Trump is the chosen One and the
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king of the Jews. I mean, it was a joke.
It was absolutely off the cuff remark meant to be
funny and tongue in cheek. But you know what, it
turned out to be true. It turned out to be
true because Trump is the chosen One. After that bullet
that just missed him and the assassin ready to blow
him away at the golf course, I'm telling you, Trump
is the Chosen One. And we wrote the song The
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Chosen One, Natasha Owens and I and her wonderful team
including some Emmy Award winners and Kings of Music, and
the song went to number twenty on iTunes and it's
got over two billion social media views. And she presented
me with a plaque in Vegas a couple of months ago,
you know, to thank me. There's the plaque right there
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to thank me for two billion social media views for
the song that I helped co write that I inspired,
the Chosen One about Donald Trump, and so we decided
to present that plaque to President Trump at the White House.
So in addition to my meeting with President Trump, we
presented this this beautiful plaque about the Chosen One, and
he was so touched and that was what he handed us.
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The He handed us the Challenge the Challenge coins, the
President's Challenge coins. Oh, I should have had one. I'll
get a few in the break. I didn't bring it
up here. I meant to bring it up. I'll bring
it you in the break. But it was a great day.
How many people do you know they get a meeting
in the Oval Office? How many hosts on TV get
a meeting in the Oval Office? Not too many? Not
too many. So God, God bless what a blessing. God
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bless America. God bless President Trump, and God bless God.
Right when you believe in God, great things happen. Right,
So only in America, only in America. My dad was
the biggest conservative in the world, a Jewish conservative butcher
from Brownsville, Brooklyn. And he's been dead for thirty plus
years thirty three years. Died in nineteen ninety two. But
(09:16):
I know he's looking down from heaven and he's smiling,
and he's got a tear in his eye. My mom
as well, obviously, Mom and dad, David Estellarue looking down
from heaven. They were two of the founders of the
New York State Conservative Party. And here's their son hanging
out with the President in the Oval Office. I mean,
it's a dream come true. And hanging out at the
DOJ with the Assistant Attorney General of the United States,
American Special Prosecutor Ed Martin. All Right, great stuff, great stuff.
(09:44):
Let me talk a little bit about some of the
news of the day. Trump slams deranged Jack Smith after
bombshell memo exposes the Biden FBI spying on GOP senators.
Jack Smith spied on eight Republican senators as part of
his Arctic Frost's investigation. Stooped on the phone records of
Republican members of Congress during its January sixth investigation. And
(10:09):
Christopher Ray was the head of the FBI at that point,
and Special Counsel Jack Smith was leading the Biden Justice
Department's investigation into Donald Trump. It's truly amazing case. ID
for the record, it's Arctic Frost sensitive investigative matter, it
says on the cover. You know, that's interesting because when
(10:29):
Tom Fitton of the Judicial Watch subpoenaed the IRS for
my IRS tax records, they were forced to hand them
over after I think it was like an eighteen month
battle even though even though by law they had to
hand it over in thirty days, they took eighteen months
in battle less. And then when they finally handed it over,
my IRS file said sensitive, sensitive national case on the
(10:52):
cover of it. Why was Wayne Rude a sensitive national
case because it was a government communist conspiracy to destroy
conservatives like me and eight US senators by Jack Smith. Uh,
Trump is the greatest. I'll tell you a little bit
about my thoughts on Trump and what he had to
say to me to end the interview when we get back,
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and I'll go get that coin. I want to show
it to you in live in my hand when we
get back, the Presidential Challenge coin for President Donald J. Trump,
and remind me Petar to tell them what Trump said
when the meeting ended. You'll enjoy it. We'll be right back,
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the Root, the Root, the Roots on Fire. Welcome to
the show. Just back from the Oval Office in Washington,
DC at the White House. Can I tell you about
the whole experience. I mean, walking into the White House amazing,
walking into the waiting room for the Oval Office amazing,
talking to the Marine guards stationed outside protecting the president. Amazing.
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Talking to the Secret Service amazing. Walking into the Oval
Office beyond amazing because I've met Trump so many times now,
I've met Trump like fifty times, giving speeches and fundraisers
and my honeymoon at mar A Lago and other trips
to mar A Lago, and sixteen TV interviews and radio
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interviews right here on my shows. Got to be an
all time record. So, I mean, I know Trump very well,
but I've never walked into the Oval Office ever, and
so so that was a experience of a lifetime. It's
all gold. Everything's gold. That's not the way it used
to be. Trump made it that way. Everything's gold. It's
just one big gold plated room and gold rugs and
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gold rapes, and the of course the famous resolute desk
with the Abraham Lincoln statue on it. Also staring at
Sinny's legs. It's just a great place now here. I
promised you i'd get the coin here it is. It's
not really a coin because, like you know, here's my watch.
There's the size of the watch. Look at the size
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of this presidential coin. It's a challenge coin. I guess
you'd call it just like if you meet a marine colonel,
he'll give you a challenge coin. It's like a sign
of honor that they carry around these chits with them
and they give them. They give these coins to you.
If they like you, they give you their coin as
a general or a colonel. This is the President of
the United States giving me his challenge coin. On the front,
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I mean, this thing is heavy. But Tark grabbed and
it said, oh my gosh, that thing is real. Here's
the white high here's the eagle, the crest of the President,
and it says Seal of the President of the United States.
And then on the back it's his family crest and
it says President of the United States forty fifth and
forty seventh. Can you imagine what this guy has done
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in his life. He's the most amazing being ever. When
I wrote this book, I think people laughed at me
because Trump had just lost the presidency and we had
January sixth, and they were calling him a trader, and
his career was done and his brand was done, according
to liberals in the media, and I wrote Trump Rules,
and people thought I was insane. By the way, this
book is coming out Indonesia on November fifth in Indonesia,
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the fourth biggest country in the world. It's coming out
in their language November fifth, So very exciting stuff. Biggest
publisher in Indonesia. They think it's going to be the
best seller in their country. So pretty cool. But the
reality is nobody ever believed he'd be back as president
United States except Wwayne al rut I said it in
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column after column that he would be back as president
of the United States. Let me put this somewhere for
safe keeping. Let me make sure nothing happens to it.
You take it, put it over there somewhere. But to
I just put in his pocket and he's going home
with it. That's the end of it. But I wanted
to be reminded, and I'll remind myself to tell you
what Trump said when it was time to go. Right,
there's a point where you talk and you talk and
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you talk, and I brought up quite a few different topics,
and then Trump said, listen, I gotta go. You gotta go,
he'd say in a bad way, he said, kind of
a funny way. He's like, you got to get out
of here. It's time to leave, because I got I
gotta go. A deal with a war. And I didn't
even ask, because I don't think I even wanted to
know which war was he dealing with it? Did he
mean Gaza and Israel, you know? Did he mean Hamas
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or did he mean Ukraine and Putin and Zelenski? Or
did he mean the government shut down because that's a
battle of all time, right or did he mean Portland
or Chicago. There's a lot of wars going on. We're
at war with Ice and Antifah against each other, loggerheads
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in Portland and Oregon. This country is fraying at the edges.
Liberals and Antifa and communist organizations, many of them funded
by George Soros. They're out to destroy this country and
divide this country and break this country up. So which
war was Trump talking about? I don't know, but it
lets you know what's on this guy's shoulders on a
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daily basis unbelievable. And by the way, give me that
give me that coin. Put it here because I'm gonna
be on a Newsmax tonight and I'd like to hold
it up on Newsmax. And now I think about it,
all right. I wanted to mention this actor Richard Gear
believes Trump has almost destroyed the country in only six months,
and I tweeted out, Richard Gear should stick to what
he knows best, gerbils A. Hopefully all of you know
(19:51):
what I'm talking about. If you don't, just google Richard
Gear Gerbils and you'll find out that he has a
funny way of enjoying life that evolves inner inner body rodents.
He has no right to be condemning anybody else in
the world. Stick to Gerbils, buddy. You don't know much
about running a country, or what works or what doesn't.
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I love my wife, I love my kids, I love
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open up this segment by mentioning that he just got
fined two hundred fifty thousand dollars by the NFL because
at the end of yesterday's of Sunday's game, I guess
a fan shouted obscenity to him, and Jerry gave him
(22:20):
the finger from the owner's box. When you get to
be eighty years old, you feel a sense of freedom.
You can do whatever you want, and he gave the
guy the figure. I never saw an NFL owner give
a fan a finger before, but Jerry gave it to him.
And he also lost two hundred fifty thousand dollars, which
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director of Turning Point USA Faith, author of the new
book Pagan Threat Confronting America's Godless Uprising. Pastor Lucas Miles
is here to talk to us about many things, but
we want to start with Israel and the two year anniversary. Lucas,
how are.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
You hey, I'm doing well.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
It just so happens, Lucas, that I am Jewish by birth,
and I guess you can't ever change that. So I
guess you would say I'm Jewish, but I took Jesus
Christ as my savior thirty four years ago, so I'm
a Messianic Jew. And I'm on Newsmax TV tonight talking
about what I think is some bad things happening with
Christian Conservatives like Candice Owens and Tucker Carlson. I think
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it's disgraceful. I think it's disgusting. I think they try
to divide the nation and divide the Republican Party. I
think there's one thing that's true in this country. We've
always been a Judeo Christian nation and we live by
Judaeo Christian values, and Republicans have always loved Israel and
been nice to Jews and loved Jews, and Democrats in
the last ten years have been so anti Jew and
(25:55):
anti Israel. And I think we're making a lot of
progress and a lot of Jews that I know are
changing from Democrats to Republican including my favorite lawyer, Why
am I forgetting his name? Who's my favorite lawyer? The
best lawyer in America? Alan Dershowitz just became a Republican
and said he's going to fight for Republicans in the midterim.
This is the last thing we need in our party,
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in our movement to now suddenly Republicans saying terrible things
about Jews and Israel. Big mistake. So I was just
going to get I was going to open by saying,
I'm on newsbacks to talk about that. What's your take
on this new split in the Conservative Republican MAGA ranks
with the Tuckers of the world and the Cannases suddenly
being so anti Israel and sounding like their anti semi
(26:38):
sounding like I'm not sure whether they are or not,
but they sound like it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
So I think that when we approach this issue, it's
really important to recognize that this is not just a
binary choice. And you know, so many times we're just
made to feel that you either have to be here
or here, and it creates this great polarization and all
this conflict and all this fighting. You know, I certainly
don't think that Tucker and King and are the same,
and I'll leave that at that, but I will say
(27:04):
that when you when you look at this issue biblically,
which is where my real concern is a pastor and
as a somebody that works with churches across this country. Theologically,
regardless if you hold to some sort of radical dispensationalism
or even something you know, say like replacement theology, you
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can't get away from that. The finality of human history
takes place in the Promised Land that Israel is the
central component of that. And so you know, look, there's
room for some different theological conversation. I think Charlie, you know, Kirk,
you know my boss and dear friend, I miss him,
you know so much, was so good at this of
(27:46):
allowing room for some conversation, but also still coming back
to support for Israel.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Support that this is a problem that radical is long.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
From taking over in the Middle East, and it's preventing,
you know, really globalism. There's still there's still as a free,
you know, sovereign nation there, and we have to we
have to stand with him as our ally, not only theologically,
but I think geopolitically as well.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Right, No, I agree with the hundred percent, and you
absolutely in America we love free speech and you can
have arguments about it, and I don't mind arguments, but
I just think, you know, Canvas has gone off the
off the deep end, completely off the deep end. Charlie
Kirk was was wonderful and he was on my TV network,
Real America's Voice TV. I've got my show there on
one of the stars of the network's The Bands, one
of the stars. Charlie Kirk was the star. Charlie's the greatest,
(28:31):
and I'm just so what happened to him is hurt
my heart, hurt my mind, hurt my entire being. I mean,
it's just so painful. So that's why I wanted to
get you on, because I have such respect for Charlie's organization,
churning point and Charlie always I'll say about that.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I think that there's so many distractions out there right now,
right and what I want to do.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
And I think what we want to do at.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Turning Point USA is we want to say, let's make
the main thing the main thing, Let's fulfill Charlie's mission.
And I think it's been very easy. Look, I'm not
invested Gate or I'm not even a foreign policy expert.
What I am is somebody who is completely resolved and
dedicated to seeing Charlie's mission, you know, fulfilled, specifically in
the world of getting Christians activated and united to stand
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against wokeism, to stand against radical Islam, to stand against
you know, this indoctrination of our children. Charlie lived for this,
Charlie gave his life for this, and we're going to
stay focused on that good.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And by the way, there's room for debate. But I mean,
I just think it's silly. I guess that's what I'm
going to say on News next tonight. When you think
of all the problems with Islam and radical Islam in
the world, and how they're taking over Europe and how
they're coming to America, and we've got terrorists in our
country that are Islamic terrorists that want to kill Jews
and Christians, I think the last thing you need to
debate about is Jews. Jews are good people. I wouldn't
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be debating about that. I'd be more worried about what
Islam is going to do to Europe and America radical
Islam anyway than worried about I just think it's distracting.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
It's distracting such a great point because look, people will
criticize Christian nationalists, or they'll criticize Zionists, but I don't
hear anybody talking about islamisist nationalists, right, I mean those individuals,
I think when they get that radicalized, they're not interesting.
They want to wipe everybody else off the map. And
so you know, I don't see Christian nationalists wanting to
wipe everybody off the map. I don't see Zionists wanting
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to wipe everybody off of the map. But we have
a real problem, and it's radical Islam. Again, not every
Muslim is the problem. I want to ap clear on that.
But radical Islam is an ideology is a destructive force
that is either you know, bent on either immigrating into
nations in order to supplant the population there and take
it over, or to use force to do so. When
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they're not, you know, when they have the power to
be able to make that happen. It's a real issue.
This was on Charlie's radar. I think it's gotta be
on all of our radars.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, and all over Europe you have no go zones.
Those are not Jewish. Nate puts those radical Islamic filled
neighborhoods where if you and I were to walk in
that neighborhood, they would kill us or rob us or
chase us out with baseball bats, to the point we
think think our life was in danger. No Christian has
ever had to fear walking into a Jewish neighborhood that
they're gonna be killed. So that's a problem. I don't
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think jewser are to be debated as a problem or
not in America. I just think that's a mistake. But
they're certainly too liberal that I'll agree with. They're too liberal.
My fellow Jews are way too liberal. But there's a
lot of conservatives now, and I think a lot of
them are coming over. So why even get in this debate.
Let's talk about the two year anniversary of October seventh.
Obviously a terrible thing. We can all agree on that,
(31:28):
But do you see a peace deal forming I mean
I was just with the President yesterday. I had my
first ever Oval office meeting with President Trump yesterday. It
was a great honor just to walk in the White
House and walk in the Oval Office. That man is
just an amazing human being. We'll never get another one
like him, and I think we have a hope for
a piece potentially because of him. I just don't know
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if you could ever negotiate with terrorists and they keep
their word.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, I mean that's the big concern, is the keeping
of the word right. So I think it's possible for
us to see a deal happen, but whether or not
that deal is enforced or that it is you know,
on their side or actually acted upon. I have a
real hard time, you know, seeing Hamas to be able
to keep it their end of the bargain.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Right and listen, their history is radical. Islam's history is
say yes, playcate, regroup and then kill Jews again or
killed Christians again. That's their history. Look what's happening in
several African nations.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yeah, we have the right person in office right now
in our nation to be able to let people account
all and I think that that's what we have going
for us that we haven't had of during past administrations.
And so if there's anybody who can get this done,
I think it's President Trump. Obviously, there's a lot of
you know, theological and biblical questions that we could talk about,
but you know, we got to keep our eyes on
the main thing.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Right now. All right, you're my kind of guy. You're
the right kind of pastor. Let me tell you, I
agree with every word you say. Pastor Lucas Miles, Now,
this is normally when we say goodbye to our guests.
I'd love to grab you for one more segment. I
enjoyed talking to you, and let's talk about your book
when we get back, Pagan Threat, and we'll talk a
little bit more about Charlie Kirk, because that was your
boss and your guy, and I could even believe my eyes.
(33:01):
It was one of the most horrible things I've ever seen,
and the aftermath of people celebrating his death the most
disgusting thing I've ever seen in my entire life. Let's
talk about that all with Pastor Lucas Miles, Senior director
of Turning Put USA Faith. What a great organization, author
of the new book Pagan Threat, Confronting America's godless uprising
will be right back with Pastor Lucas Miles on Wayne
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Let's pray for President Trump, all right, perfect God it
pray for President Trump. Pastor Lucas Miles is with US
senior director of Churning Point USA. Churning Point USA Faith,
Excuse me Faith, author of the new book Pagan Threat,
(38:56):
Confronting America's Godless Uprising Pastor Lucas Miles. Welcome back to
the show.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Hey, thanks for having me back.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
All right, So, in the aftermath of Charlie's Kirk assassination,
what are you seeing and feeling? What did you take
away from the horror of what we just witnessed.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Yeah, I mean, obviously everything that we're seeing right now
is filtered through the lenses of grief. I think that
that's you know, goes without saying, but I think that
Charlie would be so excited to see what is taking
place on the on the other side of this. You know,
my own church doubled in size literally overnight, and we've
maintained that growth for four weeks and growing. We had
to add another service to even accommodate the people.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
That were there now.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
We also put a forty five foot banner of Charlie
Kirk on the outside of our building because we wanted
to make it very clear where we stood and look,
Charlie was a martyr, he gave his life. But the
what church history tells us, the church father Tertullian said
that the death of the martyr is the seat of
the church, and Charlie, you know, was planted in the ground,
but his life is multiplying and we're seeing a million
(40:00):
Charlie Kirk's rise up right now, people who are coming
back to the faith. I ask people on Sunday morning,
I said, how many of you guys bought a Bible
for the first time after Charlie's assassination. I had multiple
people raise their hand. How many people came back to
church for the first time since all this happening. Multiple
people raising their hand. Church growth is up fifteen percent
across the country. But what that probably means is that
mainline churches might be up two or three percent, but
(40:21):
churches that are really stand in bold right now they're
seeing thirty forty fifty percent growth.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
And Republican registrations are up the same kind of numbers,
which is important because they really do. In my opinion,
I'm not a man of God like you, but they
go hand in hand. We get you there, they go
hand well. I am, but I mean, I met, I'm
not a pastor. I met, I'm not a pastor. I'm
a big believer in Jesus Christ, but I'm not a pastor,
and I just think that they go hand in hand.
(40:47):
You can't be a Christian and vote for this evil
party that believes an abortion and celebrating the death of
a great man like Charlie, a father of two young children,
a husband, and they're cheering. You know, here's what I
took away from Lucas. I don't like Democrats, I really don't.
I do think they're evil. I do think they're demonic
at this point. I think there's like Satan involved. The
(41:09):
things they believe in is so sickening at times that
is shocking. You can't believe what they believe in. But
I would still never root for their death ever, not
publicly or privately, but certainly not publicly. I don't root
for their death. I don't root for their illness. I
don't root for an assassination, and they do root for
our death. That's the difference in the two groups of people.
(41:31):
I don't know any Republican that likes Obama, but none
of us want him to die tomorrow. That's a big difference.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Look, I think that there was probably no you know,
better commercial for conservatives than seeing the celebration of people
online when Charlie was killed.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
This just proved him right. You know.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Look, the other side's been trying to prove Charlie Kirk wrong.
For a long time, they weren't able to do it.
They had to put a bullet in his neck to
get him to, you know, stop talking. But what they
didn't realize is that he's going to keep talking. He's
one of the most people in world history. We've got
hours and hours of content that's gonna be coming out
for decades to come. Charlie Kirk, though, his voice went
(42:14):
around this world and it's amplified, and I think that
he said all the things that all of us wanted
to say. But he was smarter than us. He was
the best of us, and he's inspired millions literally through
his life and through his death.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
All right, look, I wanted to get into your book,
but we don't even have time the music sign we're
running out. So here's what I'd like to do. I'll
have Andrew Paul, my executive producer and booker, book you
to come back in the next few days and we'll
just go over your book and we'll just do your book. Okay,
So we'll get it in Pagan Threat Confronting Americans Godless
Uprising America's Godless Uprising by Pastor Lucas Miles, Senior director
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We'll see it all the while. We'll see it in
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Speaker 1 (00:57):
All right, Wayne all it is on fire. Welcome back
to the show. Today is Tuesday. Sorry I missed yesterday.
I was out for one day because I was in Washington, DC.
I don't know how many of you know, but I
had a private audience with the President of the United States,
President Donald J. Trump, the greatest president of my lifetime,
one of the greatest presidents in the history of America,
(01:18):
is certainly one of the top five in the history
of America. And I've got a few photos from my
trip to share with all of you who are watching
as opposed to listening. Because this is a simulcast, it
is a video podcast slash TV show as well as
a radio show. Nationally syndicated. So I've got some photos
to share with you. I hope that the guys have
(01:38):
them over at Patriot TV. We could put them up
on the screen and I'll describe what you're seeing. If
you put them up on the screen, boys, so and
then I'll know you've got them. If you don't have them,
then I guess, I guess I'm in the wrong place here.
What's going on? Where are the photos? Guys? I know
they we're sent to you, So they're supposed to be there.
All right, Well, i'll assume you don't have them. I
don't know what's going on. I'll have them by the
(01:59):
next break. I'll tell you that much. They're supposed to
have them, and they should be up on the screen
as we speak. Come on, guys, getting them back on now?
Is that what you're telling me? Yeah? Okay, all right,
Well I told him I was gonna open the show
with the pictures. So what can I tell you. I'll
move on and just tell you, oh, there we go,
(02:20):
there we go. All right, So give me the picture.
Go ahead, put it up on the screen. Let me
describe what people are seeing. They were like eight pictures,
so I want them all up there. So there's one photo,
and that's me and my lovely wife, Cindy. By the way,
everywhere we went in Washington, d C. I met with
senators and with congressmen. I met with State Department, I
met with DOJ. I met with the President of the
United States all of his staff. Everybody said the same thing.
(02:43):
Your wife is gorgeous. Man, Wow, you got some wife.
She's number two in America to Milania. Let's put it
that way. Milania is one and Cindy's one. A. There's
President Trump staring right at Cindy. I'm like, I'm in
the room to President I'm here too. Oh come on,
he's staring right at Cendy his legs. That's my kind
of guy, all American guy. That's me in front of
(03:05):
the DOJ Department of Justice, where I was going to
meet with my buddy, who's the assistant Dave to me
ag of the United States of America, Ed Martin, and
also the special prosecutor tasked with putting Letitia James Adam
Schiff in prison. I had a long talk with him.
There is my wife and I with President Trump. I
think we got a cut more photos. There's one with
me having a deep discussion with President Trump. We had
(03:27):
a really important discussion which I won't tell you, but
I never share things like that, but it was a
good discussion. And there is the challenge coin that President
Trump gave me. Not many people have those in the
whole world. Challenge coin. That's the front and that's the back.
The back is his family crest. His family crest is
on the back of that, the Trump family crest. On
(03:49):
the front is United States of America. President of the
United States of America. So it was a beautiful, beautiful
trip and a beautiful visit to the Oval Office and
my friend ed Mark the DOJ to find out what's
going on there, and I think we're gonna have some
good news very soon, preferably tomorrow, and a great meeting
(04:09):
at the State Department with my great friend Lee Lipton,
who's in charge of OAS office. I think it's Office
of Administration of American States. I think is what OAS
stands for. But he's basically an ambassador in charge of
I think it's thirty one Latin American countries and he
is just an unbelievable guy. Lee Lipton's a superstar. Thank you, Lee.
We had dinner with Lee last night. Cindy and I
(04:32):
really fantastic stuff. So it was a great trip all
the way around. Everything was a dream. I mean it's
a memory of a lifetime. How many people ever get
to go to the Oval Office? Not many. And I
didn't even mention that we were at the Oval Office.
It wasn't just me at the Oval Office for a meeting.
And brought my wife Cindy there too. It was Natasha
(04:52):
Owens and her husband Dave, and they were there because
she is this you know, angelic singer, Christian singer with
an angelic voice. I mean her voice makes you melch.
You got such great voice. And she sang the song
Trump One and you know It and went to number
one in the world. And then I co wrote with
her a song called The Chosen One about Donald Trump,
(05:15):
and it was all about inspired by my Newsmax TV days.
By the way, I'll be a guest on news Max
TV today at five fifty my time here on the
West Coast eight fifty East Coast time tonight with Rob Finderty.
Is it fit Erty? I think that's you to pronounce it.
I will be his guest to talk about America and Israel,
and some some tweets that I put out about Tucker
(05:38):
Carlson and Candice Owens, how they're dividing our country and
dividing our party and try to turn everyone into a
Jew hater, which is disgusting and disgraceful, and it's got
to stop it. It's got to stop now. And I'll
be talking about that tonight on Newsmax eight to fifty
East Coast Time. But I was the elite anchor and
host on Newsmax, and I I was the guy who
(06:01):
when someone called in because I took Collins and someone
called in and said, you know, we know you're Jewish, Wayne,
Why did Jews so hate Trump? And I said, well,
in America, and this is off the top of my head,
of course, in America they made Trump. But in Israel
they're named me train stations after him, and soccer teams
and roads and highways Trump Israel. They love him there.
(06:26):
They love him more than they love and he is
rarely president ever or prime minister ever. And I said,
they love him like he's the King of the Jews
and he's the chosen one. And Trump walked out the
next morning on the White House lawn in front of
the White House Press Corps and said, Waynwarod said it,
I am the Chosen One, and as a joke, it
(06:47):
was funny, and I said it as a as a
kind of a wise ass comment. Right, Trump isn't hated.
Trump's loved by Jews in Israel. He's like the king
of the Jews and the chosen One. That wasn't meant
to be a serious comment. It was meant to be
a funny comment, comedic, and Trump's was meant to be comedic.
But the world media hates me and hates Trump, took
(07:08):
it as a serious thing and it became the biggest
news story in America, the biggest firestorm in America, media
firestorm in America and Israel at across the world. Christians
were debating, Jews and Israel were debating, who is this
Wayne Ruth that called Trump the king of the Jews
and the Chosen One? Who made Wayne Ruth the guy
who decides that Trump is the chosen One and the
(07:28):
king of the Jews. I mean, it was a joke.
It was absolutely off the cuff remark meant to be
funny and tongue in cheek. But you know what, it
turned out to be true. It turned out to be
true because Trump is the chosen One. After that bullet
that just missed him and the assassin ready to blow
him away at the golf course, I'm telling you, Trump
is the Chosen One. And we wrote the song The
(07:50):
Chosen One, Natasha Owens and I and her wonderful team
including some Emmy Award winners and Kings of Music, and
the song went to number twenty on iTunes and it's
got over two billion social media views. And she presented
me with a plaque in Vegas a couple of months ago,
you know, to thank me. There's the plaque right there
(08:11):
to thank me for two billion social media views for
the song that I helped co write that I inspired,
the Chosen One about Donald Trump, and so we decided
to present that plaque to President Trump at the White House.
So in addition to my meeting with President Trump, we
presented this this beautiful plaque about the Chosen One, and
he was so touched and that was what he handed us.
(08:32):
The He handed us the Challenge the Challenge coins, the
President's Challenge coins. Oh, I should have had one. I'll
get a few in the break. I didn't bring it
up here. I meant to bring it up. I'll bring
it you in the break. But it was a great day.
How many people do you know they get a meeting
in the Oval Office? How many hosts on TV get
a meeting in the Oval Office? Not too many? Not
too many. So God, God bless what a blessing. God
(08:54):
bless America. God bless President Trump, and God bless God.
Right when you believe in God, great things happen. Right,
So only in America, only in America. My dad was
the biggest conservative in the world, a Jewish conservative butcher
from Brownsville, Brooklyn. And he's been dead for thirty plus
years thirty three years. Died in nineteen ninety two. But
(09:16):
I know he's looking down from heaven and he's smiling,
and he's got a tear in his eye. My mom
as well, obviously, Mom and dad, David Estellarue looking down
from heaven. They were two of the founders of the
New York State Conservative Party. And here's their son hanging
out with the President in the Oval Office. I mean,
it's a dream come true. And hanging out at the
DOJ with the Assistant Attorney General of the United States,
American Special Prosecutor Ed Martin. All Right, great stuff, great stuff.
(09:44):
Let me talk a little bit about some of the
news of the day. Trump slams deranged Jack Smith after
bombshell memo exposes the Biden FBI spying on GOP senators.
Jack Smith spied on eight Republican senators as part of
his Arctic Frost's investigation. Stooped on the phone records of
Republican members of Congress during its January sixth investigation. And
(10:09):
Christopher Ray was the head of the FBI at that point,
and Special Counsel Jack Smith was leading the Biden Justice
Department's investigation into Donald Trump. It's truly amazing case. ID
for the record, it's Arctic Frost sensitive investigative matter, it
says on the cover. You know, that's interesting because when
(10:29):
Tom Fitton of the Judicial Watch subpoenaed the IRS for
my IRS tax records, they were forced to hand them
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my IRS file said sensitive, sensitive national case on the
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Trump is the greatest. I'll tell you a little bit
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say to me to end the interview when we get back,
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and remind me Petar to tell them what Trump said
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the Root, the Root, the Roots on Fire. Welcome to
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DC at the White House. Can I tell you about
the whole experience. I mean, walking into the White House amazing,
walking into the waiting room for the Oval Office amazing,
talking to the Marine guards stationed outside protecting the president. Amazing.
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Talking to the Secret Service amazing. Walking into the Oval
Office beyond amazing because I've met Trump so many times now,
I've met Trump like fifty times, giving speeches and fundraisers
and my honeymoon at mar A Lago and other trips
to mar A Lago, and sixteen TV interviews and radio
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interviews right here on my shows. Got to be an
all time record. So, I mean, I know Trump very well,
but I've never walked into the Oval Office ever, and
so so that was a experience of a lifetime. It's
all gold. Everything's gold. That's not the way it used
to be. Trump made it that way. Everything's gold. It's
just one big gold plated room and gold rugs and
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gold rapes, and the of course the famous resolute desk
with the Abraham Lincoln statue on it. Also staring at
Sinny's legs. It's just a great place now here. I
promised you i'd get the coin here it is. It's
not really a coin because, like you know, here's my watch.
There's the size of the watch. Look at the size
(16:31):
of this presidential coin. It's a challenge coin. I guess
you'd call it just like if you meet a marine colonel,
he'll give you a challenge coin. It's like a sign
of honor that they carry around these chits with them
and they give them. They give these coins to you.
If they like you, they give you their coin as
a general or a colonel. This is the President of
the United States giving me his challenge coin. On the front,
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I mean, this thing is heavy. But Tark grabbed and
it said, oh my gosh, that thing is real. Here's
the white high here's the eagle, the crest of the President,
and it says Seal of the President of the United States.
And then on the back it's his family crest and
it says President of the United States forty fifth and
forty seventh. Can you imagine what this guy has done
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in his life. He's the most amazing being ever. When
I wrote this book, I think people laughed at me
because Trump had just lost the presidency and we had
January sixth, and they were calling him a trader, and
his career was done and his brand was done, according
to liberals in the media, and I wrote Trump Rules,
and people thought I was insane. By the way, this
book is coming out Indonesia on November fifth in Indonesia,
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the fourth biggest country in the world. It's coming out
in their language November fifth, So very exciting stuff. Biggest
publisher in Indonesia. They think it's going to be the
best seller in their country. So pretty cool. But the
reality is nobody ever believed he'd be back as president
United States except Wwayne al rut I said it in
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column after column that he would be back as president
of the United States. Let me put this somewhere for
safe keeping. Let me make sure nothing happens to it.
You take it, put it over there somewhere. But to
I just put in his pocket and he's going home
with it. That's the end of it. But I wanted
to be reminded, and I'll remind myself to tell you
what Trump said when it was time to go. Right,
there's a point where you talk and you talk and
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you talk, and I brought up quite a few different topics,
and then Trump said, listen, I gotta go. You gotta go,
he'd say in a bad way, he said, kind of
a funny way. He's like, you got to get out
of here. It's time to leave, because I got I
gotta go. A deal with a war. And I didn't
even ask, because I don't think I even wanted to
know which war was he dealing with it? Did he
mean Gaza and Israel, you know? Did he mean Hamas
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or did he mean Ukraine and Putin and Zelenski? Or
did he mean the government shut down because that's a
battle of all time, right or did he mean Portland
or Chicago. There's a lot of wars going on. We're
at war with Ice and Antifah against each other, loggerheads
(19:06):
in Portland and Oregon. This country is fraying at the edges.
Liberals and Antifa and communist organizations, many of them funded
by George Soros. They're out to destroy this country and
divide this country and break this country up. So which
war was Trump talking about? I don't know, but it
lets you know what's on this guy's shoulders on a
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daily basis unbelievable. And by the way, give me that
give me that coin. Put it here because I'm gonna
be on a Newsmax tonight and I'd like to hold
it up on Newsmax. And now I think about it,
all right. I wanted to mention this actor Richard Gear
believes Trump has almost destroyed the country in only six months,
and I tweeted out, Richard Gear should stick to what
he knows best, gerbils A. Hopefully all of you know
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what I'm talking about. If you don't, just google Richard
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He has no right to be condemning anybody else in
the world. Stick to Gerbils, buddy. You don't know much
about running a country, or what works or what doesn't.
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at the end of yesterday's of Sunday's game, I guess
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book Pagan Threat Confronting America's Godless Uprising. Pastor Lucas Miles
is here to talk to us about many things, but
we want to start with Israel and the two year anniversary. Lucas,
how are.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
You hey, I'm doing well.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
It just so happens, Lucas, that I am Jewish by birth,
and I guess you can't ever change that. So I
guess you would say I'm Jewish, but I took Jesus
Christ as my savior thirty four years ago, so I'm
a Messianic Jew. And I'm on Newsmax TV tonight talking
about what I think is some bad things happening with
Christian Conservatives like Candice Owens and Tucker Carlson. I think
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it's disgraceful. I think it's disgusting. I think they try
to divide the nation and divide the Republican Party. I
think there's one thing that's true in this country. We've
always been a Judeo Christian nation and we live by
Judaeo Christian values, and Republicans have always loved Israel and
been nice to Jews and loved Jews, and Democrats in
the last ten years have been so anti Jew and
(25:55):
anti Israel. And I think we're making a lot of
progress and a lot of Jews that I know are
changing from Democrats to Republican including my favorite lawyer, Why
am I forgetting his name? Who's my favorite lawyer? The
best lawyer in America? Alan Dershowitz just became a Republican
and said he's going to fight for Republicans in the midterim.
This is the last thing we need in our party,
(26:16):
in our movement to now suddenly Republicans saying terrible things
about Jews and Israel. Big mistake. So I was just
going to get I was going to open by saying,
I'm on newsbacks to talk about that. What's your take
on this new split in the Conservative Republican MAGA ranks
with the Tuckers of the world and the Cannases suddenly
being so anti Israel and sounding like their anti semi
(26:38):
sounding like I'm not sure whether they are or not,
but they sound like it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
So I think that when we approach this issue, it's
really important to recognize that this is not just a
binary choice. And you know, so many times we're just
made to feel that you either have to be here
or here, and it creates this great polarization and all
this conflict and all this fighting. You know, I certainly
don't think that Tucker and King and are the same,
and I'll leave that at that, but I will say
(27:04):
that when you when you look at this issue biblically,
which is where my real concern is a pastor and
as a somebody that works with churches across this country. Theologically,
regardless if you hold to some sort of radical dispensationalism
or even something you know, say like replacement theology, you
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can't get away from that. The finality of human history
takes place in the Promised Land that Israel is the
central component of that. And so you know, look, there's
room for some different theological conversation. I think Charlie, you know, Kirk,
you know my boss and dear friend, I miss him,
you know so much, was so good at this of
(27:46):
allowing room for some conversation, but also still coming back
to support for Israel.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Support that this is a problem that radical is long.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
From taking over in the Middle East, and it's preventing,
you know, really globalism. There's still there's still as a free,
you know, sovereign nation there, and we have to we
have to stand with him as our ally, not only theologically,
but I think geopolitically as well.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Right, No, I agree with the hundred percent, and you
absolutely in America we love free speech and you can
have arguments about it, and I don't mind arguments, but
I just think, you know, Canvas has gone off the
off the deep end, completely off the deep end. Charlie
Kirk was was wonderful and he was on my TV network,
Real America's Voice TV. I've got my show there on
one of the stars of the network's The Bands, one
of the stars. Charlie Kirk was the star. Charlie's the greatest,
(28:31):
and I'm just so what happened to him is hurt
my heart, hurt my mind, hurt my entire being. I mean,
it's just so painful. So that's why I wanted to
get you on, because I have such respect for Charlie's organization,
churning point and Charlie always I'll say about that.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I think that there's so many distractions out there right now,
right and what I want to do.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
And I think what we want to do at.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Turning Point USA is we want to say, let's make
the main thing the main thing, Let's fulfill Charlie's mission.
And I think it's been very easy. Look, I'm not
invested Gate or I'm not even a foreign policy expert.
What I am is somebody who is completely resolved and
dedicated to seeing Charlie's mission, you know, fulfilled, specifically in
the world of getting Christians activated and united to stand
(29:14):
against wokeism, to stand against radical Islam, to stand against
you know, this indoctrination of our children. Charlie lived for this,
Charlie gave his life for this, and we're going to
stay focused on that good.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
And by the way, there's room for debate. But I mean,
I just think it's silly. I guess that's what I'm
going to say on News next tonight. When you think
of all the problems with Islam and radical Islam in
the world, and how they're taking over Europe and how
they're coming to America, and we've got terrorists in our
country that are Islamic terrorists that want to kill Jews
and Christians, I think the last thing you need to
debate about is Jews. Jews are good people. I wouldn't
(29:47):
be debating about that. I'd be more worried about what
Islam is going to do to Europe and America radical
Islam anyway than worried about I just think it's distracting.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
It's distracting such a great point because look, people will
criticize Christian nationalists, or they'll criticize Zionists, but I don't
hear anybody talking about islamisist nationalists, right, I mean those individuals,
I think when they get that radicalized, they're not interesting.
They want to wipe everybody else off the map. And
so you know, I don't see Christian nationalists wanting to
wipe everybody off the map. I don't see Zionists wanting
(30:17):
to wipe everybody off of the map. But we have
a real problem, and it's radical Islam. Again, not every
Muslim is the problem. I want to ap clear on that.
But radical Islam is an ideology is a destructive force
that is either you know, bent on either immigrating into
nations in order to supplant the population there and take
it over, or to use force to do so. When
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they're not, you know, when they have the power to
be able to make that happen. It's a real issue.
This was on Charlie's radar. I think it's gotta be
on all of our radars.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, and all over Europe you have no go zones.
Those are not Jewish. Nate puts those radical Islamic filled
neighborhoods where if you and I were to walk in
that neighborhood, they would kill us or rob us or
chase us out with baseball bats, to the point we
think think our life was in danger. No Christian has
ever had to fear walking into a Jewish neighborhood that
they're gonna be killed. So that's a problem. I don't
(31:07):
think jewser are to be debated as a problem or
not in America. I just think that's a mistake. But
they're certainly too liberal that I'll agree with. They're too liberal.
My fellow Jews are way too liberal. But there's a
lot of conservatives now, and I think a lot of
them are coming over. So why even get in this debate.
Let's talk about the two year anniversary of October seventh.
Obviously a terrible thing. We can all agree on that,
(31:28):
But do you see a peace deal forming I mean
I was just with the President yesterday. I had my
first ever Oval office meeting with President Trump yesterday. It
was a great honor just to walk in the White
House and walk in the Oval Office. That man is
just an amazing human being. We'll never get another one
like him, and I think we have a hope for
a piece potentially because of him. I just don't know
(31:48):
if you could ever negotiate with terrorists and they keep
their word.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, I mean that's the big concern, is the keeping
of the word right. So I think it's possible for
us to see a deal happen, but whether or not
that deal is enforced or that it is you know,
on their side or actually acted upon. I have a
real hard time, you know, seeing Hamas to be able
to keep it their end of the bargain.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Right and listen, their history is radical. Islam's history is
say yes, playcate, regroup and then kill Jews again or
killed Christians again. That's their history. Look what's happening in
several African nations.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yeah, we have the right person in office right now
in our nation to be able to let people account
all and I think that that's what we have going
for us that we haven't had of during past administrations.
And so if there's anybody who can get this done,
I think it's President Trump. Obviously, there's a lot of
you know, theological and biblical questions that we could talk about,
but you know, we got to keep our eyes on
the main thing.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Right now. All right, you're my kind of guy. You're
the right kind of pastor. Let me tell you, I
agree with every word you say. Pastor Lucas Miles, Now,
this is normally when we say goodbye to our guests.
I'd love to grab you for one more segment. I
enjoyed talking to you, and let's talk about your book
when we get back, Pagan Threat, and we'll talk a
little bit more about Charlie Kirk, because that was your
boss and your guy, and I could even believe my eyes.
(33:01):
It was one of the most horrible things I've ever seen,
and the aftermath of people celebrating his death the most
disgusting thing I've ever seen in my entire life. Let's
talk about that all with Pastor Lucas Miles, Senior director
of Turning Put USA Faith. What a great organization, author
of the new book Pagan Threat, Confronting America's godless uprising
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I were with him. You got that picture of just
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me and President Trump. We wait a whole bunch of pictures,
but just that one. I know they had a corrupted file.
There it is there. It is a great shot of
the President and I talking a little bit of business
and it was a great conversation. I wish you could
have been there, President Donald J. Trump and Wayne Allen Root.
Look at those flags, look at that gold what a
(38:14):
I mean just it's the experience of being the Oval
Office takes your breath away, really truly amazing. Thank you,
President Trump. And when I left, he said it's time
to go. I gotta go deal with the war. And
I sat there thinking which war? Gaza or Ukraine or
President Putin or Portland or Chicago or the government shutdown.
(38:35):
There's a lot of wars going on. That's President Trump's day,
every single day. That's what's on his shoulders every single day.
Let's pray for President Trump, all right, perfect God it
pray for President Trump. Pastor Lucas Miles is with US
senior director of Churning Point USA. Churning Point USA Faith,
Excuse me Faith, author of the new book Pagan Threat,
(38:56):
Confronting America's Godless Uprising Pastor Lucas Miles. Welcome back to
the show.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Hey, thanks for having me back.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
All right, So, in the aftermath of Charlie's Kirk assassination,
what are you seeing and feeling? What did you take
away from the horror of what we just witnessed.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Yeah, I mean, obviously everything that we're seeing right now
is filtered through the lenses of grief. I think that
that's you know, goes without saying, but I think that
Charlie would be so excited to see what is taking
place on the on the other side of this. You know,
my own church doubled in size literally overnight, and we've
maintained that growth for four weeks and growing. We had
to add another service to even accommodate the people.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
That were there now.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
We also put a forty five foot banner of Charlie
Kirk on the outside of our building because we wanted
to make it very clear where we stood and look,
Charlie was a martyr, he gave his life. But the
what church history tells us, the church father Tertullian said
that the death of the martyr is the seat of
the church, and Charlie, you know, was planted in the ground,
but his life is multiplying and we're seeing a million
(40:00):
Charlie Kirk's rise up right now, people who are coming
back to the faith. I ask people on Sunday morning,
I said, how many of you guys bought a Bible
for the first time after Charlie's assassination. I had multiple
people raise their hand. How many people came back to
church for the first time since all this happening. Multiple
people raising their hand. Church growth is up fifteen percent
across the country. But what that probably means is that
mainline churches might be up two or three percent, but
(40:21):
churches that are really stand in bold right now they're
seeing thirty forty fifty percent growth.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
And Republican registrations are up the same kind of numbers,
which is important because they really do. In my opinion,
I'm not a man of God like you, but they
go hand in hand. We get you there, they go
hand well. I am, but I mean, I met, I'm
not a pastor. I met, I'm not a pastor. I'm
a big believer in Jesus Christ, but I'm not a pastor,
and I just think that they go hand in hand.
(40:47):
You can't be a Christian and vote for this evil
party that believes an abortion and celebrating the death of
a great man like Charlie, a father of two young children,
a husband, and they're cheering. You know, here's what I
took away from Lucas. I don't like Democrats, I really don't.
I do think they're evil. I do think they're demonic
at this point. I think there's like Satan involved. The
(41:09):
things they believe in is so sickening at times that
is shocking. You can't believe what they believe in. But
I would still never root for their death ever, not
publicly or privately, but certainly not publicly. I don't root
for their death. I don't root for their illness. I
don't root for an assassination, and they do root for
our death. That's the difference in the two groups of people.
(41:31):
I don't know any Republican that likes Obama, but none
of us want him to die tomorrow. That's a big difference.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Look, I think that there was probably no you know,
better commercial for conservatives than seeing the celebration of people
online when Charlie was killed.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
This just proved him right. You know.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Look, the other side's been trying to prove Charlie Kirk wrong.
For a long time, they weren't able to do it.
They had to put a bullet in his neck to
get him to, you know, stop talking. But what they
didn't realize is that he's going to keep talking. He's
one of the most people in world history. We've got
hours and hours of content that's gonna be coming out
for decades to come. Charlie Kirk, though, his voice went
(42:14):
around this world and it's amplified, and I think that
he said all the things that all of us wanted
to say. But he was smarter than us. He was
the best of us, and he's inspired millions literally through
his life and through his death.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
All right, look, I wanted to get into your book,
but we don't even have time the music sign we're
running out. So here's what I'd like to do. I'll
have Andrew Paul, my executive producer and booker, book you
to come back in the next few days and we'll
just go over your book and we'll just do your book. Okay,
So we'll get it in Pagan Threat Confronting Americans Godless
Uprising America's Godless Uprising by Pastor Lucas Miles, Senior director
(42:51):
of Churning Point USA. Faith Again. Go get a copy
of the book. You can tell from this interview what
a wonderful man he is and what a brilliant man
he is. Pagan threat confront America's Godless Uprising. And Andrew
will book you to come back. Just talk about the
book in the next few days. I want you back already.
We'll see it all the while. We'll see it in
a few days. Thank you. We'll be right back our
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