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It's time war War.
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Here's your host, one hundred percent raw truth, one hundred
percent American made the Warrior, Wayne Alan Roots.
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All Right, Wayne Allen, The Root, The Roots on Fire,
Welcome to the show.
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Today is Thursday. The week's running along. My gosh, it's
already almost Friday. It's almost the weekend. And then Sunday
I leave for Washington, d C.
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I'm invited to.
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The White House Christmas Party. I'll be there on Monday.
I'll miss this show just one day. On Monday. I
don't know if we're doing a best of or we've
got Lee Elc guest hosting.
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I'm not really sure about that.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I'll find out tomorrow, but then i'll be back on Tuesday.
I take an early morning flight Tuesday, and i'll be
back as long as the flight leaves on time.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I'll be back here with you. On Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Worst case scenario Wednesday, but most probably Tuesday. I'm supposed
to land at like ten in the morning on Tuesday,
so plenty of time before Tuesday show, even if the
flight is late. So should be back with you on
Tuesday with lots to tell you about the wonderful White
House Christmas party and the beautiful White House designed by
Milania Trump. Big news the day before I get to
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my commentary is this low life scumbag alleged MS thirteen
piece of garbage, human trafficker, alleged wife beater, kilmar Abrego Garcia.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Least after another.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
COMMI judge rules the TRUP administration had to let him
go lacked valid removal order. This guy became the face
of Trump's mass deportation campaign.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Democrats went all the way to El Salvador to.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Bring him back, and then the Republicans tried to unload
him on African nations and Central American nations. And now
a judge has and I remember reporting on my Top
ten countdown showing a real American's voice. He's finally gone.
He's headed to Ganda, and now judge says you got
to let him go, and he's free as of this moment.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
He's free in the United States of America.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
This country doesn't care about American citizens. They don't care
if you get killed, they don't care if you go broke.
They don't care if you stand in line eight thousand deep.
But the doctor's office with all illegals in front of you,
they do everything for illegal aliens and nothing for us, nothing,
nothing for you, nothing for me. And then the second
big news story is the Chief of NATO tells the
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people of Europe to get ready for the scale of war.
Our grandparents and great grandparents endured. And I've been telling
you on and off for two years now that Europe
is completely broke. They're welfare states. Every country in Europe
is a welfare state, completely broke. And they've let in
the illegal, all the immigrants in their case, not illegal immigrants,
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because they welcomed him in. They're they're legal migrants, I guess,
you know, mixed with legal mixed with illegal immigrants who
came without being invited.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
But they let in millions.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
And France is buried, England's buried, Holland's buried, Germany's buried,
Belgium's buried. Italy is buried. They're all buried in illegals.
Italy is an Italian anymore. Germany is in German anymore.
French is in France is in French anymore. Spain is
in Spanish anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
They've led in nothing.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
But Muslim migrants, and their countries are finished, ruined. So
they've got no choice but to have World War III,
and they'll probably send them all to the meat grinder,
you know, send them to the Russian front, and they'll
kill all their you know, migrants they don't want or need,
can't afford to feed anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
This is the way you get out of the depression.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
You kill all the people that are jobless, so now
they're not jobless anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
They got a job in a military and eventually they're
gonna die.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
And you also kill the hungry mouths, and you make
sure no more babies are created because the men are
off to war. Europe wants a war and needs a
war with Russia badly, and it's very clear it's coming
and it's gonna be World War three and we're gonna
get dragged into it.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
I keep telling you that that's what you're that's what you're.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Seeing, with gold going up, up, up, up up, up up.
Why does gold just keep going up endlessly because the
people who buy gold are giving you their opinion about
what's coming, And it's gonna be bad.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
It's gonna be World War three.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Even Trump could not get us out of World War three,
Europe dragging us into it all right. The commentary wrote
this morning, why is Tina Peters the most dangerous woman
in America?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
The Democrats?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
And why do they desperately want her to die in prison?
Or another way to put it as, why do they
desperately want.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
To kill her in prison? Think of all the dangerous
criminals in America.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
America is overrun by murderers, rapist, kidnappers, drug traffickers, MS thirteen, gangbangers, carjackers,
home invaders, armed robbers, perverts, and pedophiles. Many of these
criminals are Illegalalians. Democrats welcomed tens of millions of them
in through the open border, and they couldn't care less
about the murders and violent crimes they commit as long
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as their votes help Democrats steal elections. Many of these
vicious criminals walking our streets are American born too, right,
Plenty of Americans are criminals. Democrats fight just as hard
for them. George Soros funded DA's and liberal judges let
them out without bail. Murderers and violet repeat offenders walk
out of court the same day they're arrested, laughing at
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the police. Democrats don't care about you or me, but
they love their criminals. Democrats will do anything to protect
and defend criminals, especially if they're black, brown, or illegally.
In the USA, Democrats always fight for criminals, even the
worst of the worst. But not when it comes to
Tina Peters. This white, seventy year old gold star mom.
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Her son was a Navy cl who died for our country.
This seventy year old gold star mom is the one
exception to the rule. Tina is the one criminal and
I'm using that word very loosely because they convicted her,
but she's not a criminal. But she's the one criminal
democrats don't care about. She is the one criminal they
want locked away forever. She is the one criminal they'd
like to see die in prison. Tina Peters is clearly
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based on her treatment the way Democrats treat her, the
most dangerous woman or person in America to Democrats. According
to the way democrats are treating Tina, she is much worse.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
She's a much worse.
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Criminal than all the murderers, drug traffickers, rapists, and pedophiles.
When it comes to Tina Peters, They've locked her up
for nine life years and they want to throw the
key away. They're clearly hoping she never gets out of prison.
Remember the Russian boxer Ivan Drago and Rocky four who
watched Rocky's best friend Apollo Krieg dying in the boxing ring,
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and in response, Ivan Drago undered the most chilling, ruthless
and thoughtless words in movie history.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
If he dies, he dies.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
That's exactly what Democrats are saying about Tina Peters.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
If she dies, she dies.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
But the question is why, why is this one criminal
inmate so special to Democrats? Why is Tina being treated
so differently than all the other criminals. If you break
into our country, democrats and liberal NGOs reward you with
welfare and food stamps and free phones, and free lawyers
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and free housing and free healthcare and free public school
for your kids and a ten thousand dollars credit card
to start your life here. If after breaking into our country,
you then commit terrible crimes to democrats will also do
anything to protect you. Exhibit A is Kilmar a brago Garcia,
who allegedly is an MS thirteen gangbanger, and you and
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trafficker and wife Peter too. Just today a liberal federal
judge ordered him released from federal custody.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
A brago Garcia is a freeman.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
But Tina Peters is locked away in solitary confinement. MS
thirteen and drug cartels are laughing at us. Our justice
system is a joke. People that break into our country
commit HANUS crimes are treated better than American citizens. But
those liberal protections sure don't apply to Tina Peters. Tina's
a political prisoner, held in a Colorado whole prison by Democrats,
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treated like a mass murderer or a terrorist, all because
she was a Colorado election official who believed she found
hard evidence proving Democrats stole the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Aha, that's the real story. That's why she's treated so
differently than all the other real criminals.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Because Tina is dangerous to Democrats. She knows where the
bodies are buried. She knows how Democrats stole Colorado with
votes changed in voting machines. She knows the secret formula
they used in Colorado. Was used in voting machines all
over the USA to steal the twenty twenty presidential election.
What she knows can destroy the Democrat brand forever. What
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she knows could put leading Democrats away in prison for.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Life for treason.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Tina Peters is therefore the most dangerous person in the world.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
To Democrats. They want her to die in prison.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
That way, her story will never get out and it
dies with her.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
This isn't my opinion.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Anyone with common sense knows I'm right, based on the
special way Democrats are treating her. Is believing an election
is stolen or finding evidence an election is stolen now
a terrorist level crime, a murder level crime. If she
was a joke, if she didn't have proof, if she's
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a crazy lady with a bogus story, then why treat
her like the most dangerous criminal masterlind in America. Why
not let her tell her crazy story and then be
mocked in the media and disappear forever.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Common sense tells.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Me the reason they're treating Tina the way they're treating
her is because Tina Peters is the real deal. She
has real proof. She could put Democrats away in prison
for life. She's as crazy as a fox. Democrats are
clearly scared to death of what Tina Peters knows. My
Christmas wish and prayer is for President Trump to use
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the power of the federal government to intervene quickly before
Tina Peters dies in prison.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
This poor woman is desperately ill.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Weak, barely able to even get out of bed in
her prison cell, barely able to walk.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Her lung cancer may have returned.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
She desperately needs professional medical attention, and violent inmates have
attempted to murder her on three occasions. Prison officials have
moved her into solitary confinement like a terrorist. They're drugs
testing her daily. They're torturing a six seventy year old
gold star mom. It's clear Democrats want Tina to die
in prison. Tina could die or be murdered at any moment.
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President Trump, please find a way to get her out
before she receives the death penalty for having saved electronic
proof of a stolen election, your election, mister President. No
matter what you have to do, no matter how you
have to do it, find a way, President Trump, to
free Tina Peters.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
You owe her that much, We all owe her that much.
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Jimpath, Welcome to UH Warzone. How are you, Heah doing well?
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How are you doing Wayne?
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I'm doing fantastic.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
The latest in Venezuela, the White House says the US
will seize tens of millions of dollars in Venezuela and
oil after intercepting a tanker.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Tell us your response to all this, where do you
think this is leading?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Well, it's actually at this stage quite appropriate, you know,
pushback against what's going on in Venezuela. You know, a
re emergence of what's becoming the Trump Doctrine, but originally
we've known it as the Monroe doctrine is really important. Listen,
it's not just Venezuela that we're concerned about in this region.
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Brazil has huge problems. That's something I'm very close to.
I know a lot of the members of their Congress
and deputies down there. I know the Bolsonaro family. They
are attempting the kind of takeover of their government that
Maduro is continuing. So, but Venezuela becomes a serious, serious issue,
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not only because of the drugs that are coming through
and Indo Arragua criminals that were sent up to the
United States, but the general instability of a nation like
Venezuela really allows for foreign actors outside of our hemisphere
to get a foothold. He's been part of that, Brazil
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has been part of that, and so it's important to
push back against it. But when it comes to the
boats that are being blown out of the water, blown
into smithereens, listen, they're not directly from the Venezuelan government,
but they're sending over poisons to this country in international waters.
I think there's every reason to be pushing back against that.
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So I don't know all the details of the tanker
that was just taken over. Trump says he's going to
say more about that to come, but this is appropriate.
There's needed to be appropriate pushback against Venezuela for some
time now, so I'm thankful for Donald Trump doing it.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
It was funny because you mentioned at the very beginning
of your response, you said something about, you know, what's
going on in Brazil as bad too, and they're trying
to do something in Brazil much like what Maduro did
in Venezuela. I thought what you were gonna say, Jim,
was what they're doing in Brazil and Venezuela as much
like what Democrats tried to do in the United States.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Right, That's really right.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, you beab to the punch on that, because I've
been saying that for months now, actually, and it is true. Listen, what.
Let me pick up on Brazil just a little bit.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Here.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
The Supreme Court down there, headed up by a man
named dalasch Andre de Marias, who's head the chief justice there.
This guy, just to give a little background, this guy
brought Lula de Silva, the current president, out of prison.
He was convicted for more than twenty years for corruption
in his previous administration. He was in prison. They were
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so put off by Gyro Bolsonnaro winning in twenty eighteen
that they had to try to take him out in
twenty twenty two. So to do that, they grabbed Lula
out of prison. They feat Bulsonaro in what was truly
a stolen election. That's another thing the Maduro and his
predecessor had done in Venezuela.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
And the Democrats here Jared Bolsonaro in prison, and the
Democrats here are totly crazy.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
And the Democrats here did the same thing.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yes, they do in the same thing.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
They stole the election for Trump and then tried to
put them in prison for.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Life, but they weren't able to do it.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
The Democrat parties not an American party. They are about
third world dictatorships. That's what they want to create in
the United States as best they can, and by the way,
with every indication, maybe with the help of Venezuela, because
of what's happened with dominion voting machines. Listen, I don't
take the path that I know that dominions voting machines
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stole the election. What I do know is that's the
desire of Democrats and others is to utilize inconsistencies and
art in the way we do elections to try to
maintain power because they can't win on the issues, and
they can't win by inspiring the American people, so they
have to try to control them in every way they can.
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That's happening in Brazil, it's fully come into play in Venezuela,
and they're hoping to do in the United States.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Well, you know, I never got sued by dominion because
I never ever mentioned anything about dominion or machines, because
I always believe the election was stolen in a hundred
different ways. First of all, by surely mail in ballots,
fake mail in ballots. Second of all, by dead people
voting on mail in ballots. You know, no voter ID
say anybody could fake a mail in ballot, ballot harvesting
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is a scam, ballot drop boxes, or a fraud as
you saw with the movie Two Thousand Mules by my
friend Denesh Desuza. Counting ballots days after election day is fraud.
Not cleaning the voter rolls as fraud.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Don't forget.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Zuckerberg has since literally written, you know, is maya culpa
that he was forced by government with a gun to
his head to censor all the conservatives they stole, and
censor the Hunter Biden laptop, all the ways they stole
the election.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I didn't need to bring up dominion, but I must say, Jim.
I must say, Jim.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
That the fact that Democrats are torturing Tina Peters in
prison and putting her in solitary confinement, seventy year old
gold star mom who may be dying of lung cancer
in a prison cell, and they are literally refused to
give her up to Trump, and the federal government tells
me that the election was partly stolen by switches of
votes on the machines because she found that if it
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was really a joke and she was wrong and I
had no evidence, then why are they persecuting her like
she's Jesus Christ. Literally they're gonna make her die like
a martyr in prison. She must know where the bodies
are buried, and there must have been switches of votes
in the election machines and the software must be corrupt
or they would not be keeping her in prison the
way they are.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Well, I lived in Colorado for many years, from two
thousand and five all the way until not very long
ago twenty one, and I'm just telling you there's a
lot of problem there. That was a pretty light red state,
and it certainly shifted, you know shift. It is deep
deep blue. It is. It's totally blue.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Right now, doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
It may be the machines. Now listen, I'm like, Hugh,
I didn't go and say that dominion machines were the problem.
And all the things you laid out I've been talking
about as well. Those are the problems that we have.
We don't keep custody at ballots anymore in a proper way.
You have these ballots hanging out for months, weeks, i
should say, prior to being counted. I mean, we've got
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election issues that are problematic. I'll tell you the one
thing that really possibly did steal the election in twenty
twenty was the fact that Pennsylvania and Georgia and Wisconsin
and Nevada where you live, all change their voting rules
without a vote of the legislature. That violates Article two,
Section one claus too of the Constitution. That really should
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have been adjudicated in a court of laws.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Wait in Jim, don't forget six states, battleground states decided
to stop counting their ballots at midnight. Never happened in
the history of America. And then they all said, we'll
pick it up in the morning. And when the camera's
left and the media left and there was nobody watching,
they restarted counting at three in the morning, and suddenly
Trump had two hundred thousand vote leads, suddenly was down
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by one hundred thousand and two hundred thousand, And when
we woke up.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
At seven in the morning, they'd already done the count.
It was complete fraud. How could anyone say it was
in stolen? It's bizarre. You know what else is instinct.
Someone made a really.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Interesting point on my social media today. They said, I
think it's pretty easy to see election you was stolen.
And they showed every presidential vote count for Democrats since
two thousand. They got sixty million sixty five million, sixty
nine million, sixty five million, sixty six million, sixty million,
and then suddenly Biden eighty eighty four million. Where did
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twenty four million new votes come from? And then Kamala
got sixty six again. So they always get sixty million
votes in America, but they got eighty something under Biden,
and they stole the election with fifteen to twenty. They
stuffed the ballot box with fifteen to twenty fake ballots
or with switches.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
In the machines. I don't know which one it was.
We're both probably both. So it's so clear what happened.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Let's talk for a minute in our last minutes here
about the Ukraine Russia War. I had very high hopes
that if Trump was elected, he would be able to
end the Ukraine War. It now appears obvious to me
that he can't end the Ukraine War. That Europe wants
it so badly, that they're so broke, their welfare states
are so destroyed, they're so filled with Muslim migrants who
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are eating up all their money.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
They're all broke. They need war to get out of it.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
And today the head of NATO announced, you're about to
get in a war. That's just like World War Two
that your grandparents fought and your great grandparents fought. Get Ready,
they want war so badly. I don't think even Trump
could stop it.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I think that that is true. Now listen, On the
one hand, they should be taking up their own defense. Now,
that's the one side of what Mark Rot said that
has been lacking Europe because we're the ones that have
been defending Europe since World War Two. On the other
side of that, though, the drum beats of war are
are so strong there and and you when you consider
the fact that we just had a video come out
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of someone from the Trump administration who was saying that
the Biden administration was pushing back against Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Jim save that thought.
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When we left, I was asking Jim about whether even
President Trump could stop or prevent the Ukraine Russia war
or prevent us from being involved in it. And we
were getting Jim's answer, and I was getting a five
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get in his full answer. Can we avoid this war?
Or is it looking as I think, much less likely
that we're going to be able to avoid it.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Well, it feels a lot less likely right now. I'm
still hopeful that an end can come to this, but
let's not be mistaken. I mean, Vladimir Putin acted in
an evil meaner when he did this. But what we
don't talk about enough, or hopefully we can talk about more,
is the fact that Joe Biden acted evilly in all this.
And there was a video that came out recently which
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showed that all that needed to happen prior to the
war was for Zelenski just to make the commitment not
to go into NATO. There's actually no reason for him
to go into NATO, and there's every reason that there's
a deterrent that he still was able to have. But
even worse, in this video, they mentioned that during the
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talks in Turkey and Istanbull that this issue was brought
up again. And you'll recall that was when the war
had just recently begun and there was an opportunity to
get a decision at that time, and they again wouldn't
make they encourage. In fact, you have Boris Johnson flying
down to Istanbul to tell Zelenski not to take the deal,
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and in part it was don't say you're not going
to go into NATO. So when you hear about the
NATO build up happening right now, on one hand, Europeans
should take care of their own defense. But on the
other hand, the drum beats of war have been going
in Europe for some time over this Ukraine issue, and
it's really been outrageous. And then when you can cosider
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how our Cia really helped to stabilize that country in
so many ways, mostly during the Obama administration, you know,
you realize the MESSA was created. These kinds of messas
are hard to fix, and like you, I get more
worried about whether we can never get.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Out of it.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Well, we must have some hope, but it's getting worse
and worse every day.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
My big problem is two things.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
Number One, we talk about how terrible it is that
Russian invada Ukraine with about five hundred thousand soldiers, But Jim,
the world invaded America with about twenty five million illegal aliens.
So when you talk about war and a country being invaded,
we've paid no attention to our own borders and the
invasion against us. We've had a much worse invasion than
Russian invading Ukraine. We should be spending all our money
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to save our country from all these invaders, and we
spend too much money on Ukraine. And second of all,
all the money's been wasted because it's all getting stolen
our it's out of our area of purview. We can't
see what's going on when he gets there. Is it
really going to war or is the money being stolen?
I think it's very clear. Large ounces that have been
stolen by Zelenski and the generals and the Nazis and
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the mafia there, the Ukrainian mafia, they've all gotten their cuts.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
And and what was it?
Speaker 4 (42:10):
Don Trump Junior said he was in Monte Carlo and
all the fancy cars that cost a million dollars have
Ukrainian license plates.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
They've stolen our money.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Well, and then you had Congress just yesterday actually give
a hundred eight hundred million more dollars to Ukraine. I mean,
it's absurd, while they won't give us any tax breaks.
So it's if Republicans want to win, they better turn
around these stupid policies that they're doing and stand with
the Trump agenda.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
Well, Trump's great, but the Congress is horrible. They're all
a bunch of rhinos, obviously clearly years there.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I I you just don't know how bad it is.
Speaker 4 (42:45):
I do believe me. Eight hundred million more to Ukraine.
I know how bad it is.
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