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with United Way and also the board chair, doctor Craig Glover.
We're going to talk this morning about some new initiatives
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this morning. We're gonna get a little bit more of
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Hollis Lewis is going to be with us what in
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image and likeness is here in West Virginia now for
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zeros ero eight. And now i'd like to welcome into
the studio Carry Cooper. She is the Community Impact director
with United Way. Hey, you doing this morning? I'm doing
great as soon as I get your Mike's turned on correctly. Okay,
now let's try it again. I'm doing well this morning. Man,
this is a quick turnaround. I have to admit I
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haven't been in these new studios since we've been doing this.
Quick turnaround six minutes goes pretty.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Quick, it does. It's a beautiful studio. Thanks for having us, Yeah,
thanks for coming in.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Really appreciate. Is this your first time coming into the new one?
Is I did not know that Margaret had been over here.
This is your first time here, this is my first
A little bit of an upgrade, isn't it? Yes much Yeah, yeah,
it's a little different than what it has been. Well,
thanks so much for coming in this morning. And this
would be a great opportunity for us to talk about
this because what we're going to be talking about this
morning is the Board Connector launch. That is that is
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an initiative of the United Ways put together and this
is pretty exciting. I've been doing a little bit of
digging into it and I can see where this could
really come into come into play in something that's going
to be very very useful. I'd like to also introduce
doctor Craig Glover. He's the board chair. Doctor Glover, Good morning.
How you doing this morning. I'm doing well. Thank you
for having me, Thank you for coming in, and really
appreciate you coming in. First of all, I thought carry
(03:21):
I would get from you if you could just give
us an overview of what the Board Connector program is.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Sure, it is to connect those individuals that want to
work in their nonprofit community right want to spend their
time and their talent and their treasure with their nonprofits
and to help strengthen those boards. So the stronger the
board of a nonprofit, the stronger the nonprofit. The stronger
the nonprofit, the stronger the community. So this is a
way to recruit volunteers for board positions that nonprofits have available,
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or they're looking to fill a certain skill set, and
this is the way to connect them.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And this simply starts right now with the website. Is
that right? You can go to register.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
There is an online application you just fill out, you know,
a little bio about yourself and the things that you're
interested in, and then we would send that to nonprofits
that ask for the same thing. So if I have
someone that says I need a radio jockey, I'm going
to send Delle's application straight over to that nonprofit.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
That's great. Can you kind of describe or do you
have like sort of a sketch of the individual of
a typical individual that you'd like to see apply for
this or to put their information on there? Is there
is there any cutout that you're looking for or is
it really one size?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Diversity is the key here, So it would be anyone
that is interested in their community, anyone that is interested
in serving at a higher capacity than just being a
sometime volunteer, being a part of a working board, giving
back to the community and making us all stronger.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
So we're hoping to make connections between folks that are
really community minded, that want to work in this in
this board, and places that really need So sometimes you
have people that want to do the works and they
can't find a place to go. And if you have
people that want to hire somebody to do the works,
they don't have anybody to hire. So this is going
to help them that. And I want I wonder doctor Glover,
if you could address from from a leadership perspective and
with your experience, why are strengthening nonprofit boards so critical
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right now in Central West Virginia.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Well, I think it's important because we do have a
lot of nonprofits in our state that are doing great work.
And as Carrie said, the stronger the governance model than
the stronger the board and the stronger the organization and
the services that they're providing. So it's a really important thing.
And as we look at a lot of the challenges
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that are happening in our state now, and there are
a lot of nonprofits that are addressing notes. So connecting
folks who want to be involved and have a skill
set and talent that they can lend is really important.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
And a previous interview that you did, you called it
a powerful bridge, the connector, the connector system. How's that
dynamic going to work for nonprofits? How's that going to
help him? Is it what we're doing here is identifying
the you can't always call perfect, but the best fit
for a particular job. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Absolutely, So it's an opportunity to bridge because the nonprofit
from their side, they can say, this is the skill
set that we're looking for. So to your question before,
this is kind of the profile of the next board
member we would like to add. And then from the
individual side they can say, this is my profile, this
is the skill set that I can bring to a board,
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and that bridge is connecting them together.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh, it sounds like a very very needed program, something
that a little surprising. Maybe it wasn't there before. I
don't know, but it seems like being able to put
this place, put these placements together is great. What are
some of the uh, the mechanisms behind the scenes carry
where you make sure these matches work?
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Is it kind of a mechanism of the system itself,
that's just going to make those connections or what's kind
of behind the scenes home.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
We're just going to make those connections. I can't tell
you what you need in your daily life. I can't
tell you what you know your your world looks like,
what kind of skill set you're looking for next? But
I'm going to offer you, you know, a catalog to
choose from to order the next thing that you need.
So it's just a way for us to have a
database of those that are willing and want to be
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a part of the community. And that's to be able
to fill that.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Gap, emphasize the building diverse and skilled boards. They're in
the course of the conversation, what would that and this
might be kind of a hard question, but what would
that look like in practice? Like five years down the road,
ten years down the road, you're seeing this system that
kind of works. What what is it that you envision
it working.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
As I envision it as the first place they stop
when they when they know they have board members rolling off,
or they have change programming in their building and decide
they need something, you know, more more specific to their
to their organization. I think it would be the best
place to find. You know, if if I need legal
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it's the best place to say, hey, I need someone
with legal experience, or I need someone with financial experience.
So it's you know, just to go through the catalog
and say, no, I don't need this, but I do
need this, So I think it would be the best
way to keep those already at your fingertips.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It really seems to make a lot of sense. And
doctor Glover, what are some of the qualities and effective
board members that you're hoping to cultivate with this initiative.
You're hoping to find more people with those types of qualities.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
So the most important quality is that for a board
member is that they believe in the mission. So you
have to believe in the work that the organization is doing.
That's the most important. And then from there it is
what is the skill set that that individual can bring
to the board compared to what that board is looking for.
So as Kerry kind of mentioned, you know, typical things
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are folks with finance backgrounds, legal, human resources, marketing, but
it's all going to be dependent on that organization. So
if they're doing something that's very specific, they may be
looking for someone who has radio experience. And this is
an opportunity for them to say this is what we're
looking for, as well as an opportunity for people to
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say I can meet that need and I believe in
that mission.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
What would ask, Well, I'll start with you, doctor Glover.
What would you if somebody's out there and this sounds
interesting to it, but they never really saw themselves in
that role. Well, I don't know if that's something that
could I be on the board. I don't know if
that's really me. But I have this passion something that
I can do. I have this skill set, whatever it
might be. What would you tell them, maybe to push
them over the hump a little bit, like, hey, just
try get started. There might be a perfect match out
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there for you. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
What I would say is go to board connector fill
out the application, put in your skill set, and see
if there's a match for you.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
That's really the thing.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
You never know where your skill sets may be needed,
and so that's the most important thing is start with that.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Fill that out.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
If you've never served on a board, not sure what
boards do, that's okay. The organization can help you with that.
We're talking at the United Way about developing some board
training for folks who've never served on a board, but
you don't know until you actually start to do it.
So you got to put yourself out there and get
immersed in it.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I never thought about this before, but even if you're
some who's thinking, hey, I would like to send on
a board or whatever, if you don't know where the
resources are to what openings there are, what boards are there?
What is a board? I mean, if you don't have
those resources that are available, you may not be able
to find this. So this kind of cuts out some
of that a morphous mystery to like how do I
even get involved with being on a board. I mean,
it kind of cuts through all of that a lot,
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and that's on itself beneficial until this point in time
and talking to you guys, if it's something that I
had any interest in, like where do you look for
the list? How do you have any idea? But now
I know if I can if I just fill out
an application on this connector if there is an opportunity
and it's something that matches up with my own passions
and skill sets, there might be an opportunity out there.
I mean that's kind of the big step, right.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
The other thing, you may fill out an application and
find that there is an organization you never heard of,
but they're looking for your skill set. That's what happened
with me twenty years ago when I started on my
first board, I got connected to an organization I had
never heard of before, but they were looking for someone
that had my skill set. And once I understood what
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they were doing, I can support that. I can get
behind that.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And you have no idea, whatever your skill set and
your passions might be could align with any number of
things if you put it in and you don't know,
I mean, you might think that, well, my weird I
have this weird brain that likes all these different things.
You never know where that might come into play at.
And that's another beautiful thing about this connector. If someone
is interested today, Carrie, what's their first steps? What do
they do?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Go to our website, so it's United Way CWV dot org.
How we help? The tab at the top, how do
we help? So there's a board connector tab there you
can read some information about the board connector. The applications
are right there and straight to my mailbox and we'll
go from there.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
What a really neat initiative and something that I mean,
I could really see it making a difference for nonprofits.
And I don't know this for a fact. If I'm
assuming sometimes you're opening up position, you have a board,
you don't have a lot of candidates that you're choosing from,
and sometimes you have to have that roll field for
one reason or another, where it be fun drives or
whatever it might be, and so you may make an
imperfect selection there, you know, something along those So it'd
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be nice to have candidates that almost select themselves into
it without necessarily knowing specifically that it's for your for
your initiative, but it gives you kind of a better
overview of that.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yes, yes, it makes it much easier on everyone. So
it would make it easier on the organization choosing a
board member. You know, I've got this rolodex of people
that I can look through and yes, that one fits exactly.
And then it makes it easy on the volunteer to say, well,
I really wanted to go there, but no one ever
called me.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
That's great information. Yeah, that's really good, Devin.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
If I can add absolutely from my side, you know,
my professional life, I run a nonprofit organization, and so
when we're looking for new board members, the first thing
is you're approaching someone that you don't know if they
have an interest in board service by but by using
the board Connector, at least in that first conversation, you
know this person and they're interested in serving on a board.
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So then it's a matter of figuring out is this
the right fit for them and the organization versus sort
of cold calling someone and said, hey, have you ever
thought about doing this?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
So that all so cuts that out as well. Man,
it's great information. I think this is going to be
a massively useful tool. Maybe we'll have an update on
it at some point, but it might also just fade
into the background and be the perfectly most useful thing
ever and just does the hard work, which is what
we're hoping for, right, And that's great stuff. I really
appreciate your als time this morning. Thanks so much for
coming in from the United Way. Kerry Cooper has been
here so he's the Community Impact director and also a
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board chair. Doctor Craig Glover and studio with this this morning,
talking about board Connector once again United what's.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
The website United Way cw CW.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
That's right, CWV dot org. If that's United Way, CWV
dot org is where you can get started. Kerry, thank
you so much for your time. Really appreciate it. This
morning now doctor Glover, thank you for your time as well,
really appreciate it. Thank you so much for tuning in.
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Delicate Hollis Lewis is going to join us. We're going
to talk about name, image and likeness in the high
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in to the radio station. Thanks again to the night
a Way for coming in talking about the Board Connector program.
I think that's that's massively useful. One thing I did
want to talk about today though, and I'm glad that
he made Tom to come on this morning. Delegate from
fifty seven Delicate fifty seven, Hollis Lewis is with us
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this morning. We're going to talk a little bit about
the high school name, image and likeness. This went into
effect on August eighth. Delegate Lewis, good morning, how you
doing this morning, Hollis.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Good morning, Coop, and thank you for having me on.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah. Man, I appreciate you taking some time out today.
I always appreciated your insights. So on car A LS
show you talk about this quite a bit and you
have your own insights on this. Nil. This went into
effect on August the eighth. I wondered if I have
the information here, but as your understanding with this name,
image and likeness which deals with grade six to grade
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twelve in West Virginia as an overview, what does that
mean for student athletes in West Virginia.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
Well, basically, what it means is that student athletes in
West Virginia, as you mentioned, from grade six to twelve
can now earn money and compensation from their name, image
and likeness.
Speaker 10 (17:40):
And from the.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Understanding that I have from reading the policy, students you know,
could do commercials and host camps and do different things
like that. What they could not do that was on
the college level. Is they couldn't just accept money from
like collectives, so they would actually have to you know,
do something as far as work or you know, something
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to that effect.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
So that you actually have to have like you're applying
something in order to get the the the funds from
the from the nil.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Yeah, like you're doing something like I said, to promote
like for example, like a car dealership or a clothing brand. Uh,
but you could not you And again it's based on
your own name, image and likeness, so you can't do
that in affiliation with whatever school you may represent.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Does this? Does this? Is this considered employment? For example,
for like someone in sixth grade, do you need to
get like an exception to work? Or how does that
work as far as that goes? Does the does would
the money come into the student athletes name? And and
like for the trust to the family's name? How how
would that work for the extremely young that we're talking about.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
And that's that's a good question. And those are the
same questions that I had in reading the policy, which
it doesn't necessarily spell all those things out. So again
I'm not sure if you need to like a you know,
like A ninety nine or you got to fill out
W two's and all that, particularly like when you are
that young. So I think as we you know, worked
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through this, those details will be worked out.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah. And I mean just I've been in commission jobs
and different things like that before. If you're ten ninety
nine employee, that means you got to worry about paying
taxes yourself. If you're taking out of it, you got
to create that tax fund and get it take care of.
I mean, we're actually six year old or grade six
to do this, there's got to be some sort of
oversight in it, right exactly.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
And again, you know, like I said, I'm not necessarily
against this as a concept. Again, I think as we
worked through this, there definitely need to be guardros on it, because,
like you said, we don't want you know, sixth graders
and seventh graders spending you know, an unreasonable amount of
time trying to you know, work when they should be
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enjoying their life and going to school.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
And stuff, and kind of perusing through the benefits of
what this would have liked. First of all, any benefits
at least that I proceed from it are all benefits
other than the ability for student athletes to make money.
It seems like all the perceived benefits are just benefits
that are cutting short problems that we're made from having
high school iniol to begin with. For example, students won't
cross state lines. We won't lose student athletes out of
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West Virginia for Nile to another state. Well, I mean,
that's only possible because there is an il at that state.
That's a self created problem as far as things like
that goes. So you have the talent retention in the
state and financial empowerment, which I guess, if done the
right way, really could help. I mean, we know about
young people when they get into adult situations and get
further along in life, a lot of times there's not
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financial literacy that's part of their education younger. I'm not
so sure it is now either, So maybe that's an
element that we should look into adding into education at
some degree. Is just a basic responsibility to yourself from
a financial standpoint, because this is we're starting to talk
about a lot of money that relatively young kids are
gonna be able to play around with.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Yeah, I think you're exactly right, because when we talk
about these sort of things, I think there has to
be an educational piece. And again, has this thing will
be implemented. I think the execution of it will be
fine tuned over time and will work out those details.
The biggest concern I have is that I think that,
you know, number one, we're now moving towards the situations
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where you know, parents, I think this is going to
be the primary concern and how they you know, deciding
what schools the kids go to and trying to figure out,
you know, instead of the kid you know, necessarily just
working on the brand, excuse me, working on becoming a
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better student athlete, they're now having to develop a brand
very early. So I think this is going to be
top of mind for some parents. And what I also
don't think some people are considering is that just because
you may be even good at a sport doesn't necessarily
mean you're going to be marketable for a particular product.
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So there's going to have to be a lot more
thought into maybe your social media and all those other
things which can bring a whole host of other issues
and problems to you know, school and coaches and different
things of that nature. And if you just allowed me
for a second, the second prime concern I have is
also dealing with the transfer Again. I know the bill
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addresses it as far as you know, looking into those
uh nil deals that follow transfers, but I think it's
still going to be a problem. And it's I think
this is going to be, you know, a situation in
which as we go through this and work it out,
different issues and problems are going to come up, and
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then we're going to have to sort of figure out
how to address those problems, like you know, building the
plane while you fly.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, And that's the thing that I think if we
would take this all the way back, and I want
to go over just a moment, I'm going to talk
about some of the things that are supposed to be
restricted in some of the issues that that I see
potentially coming up on things that are obstensibly supposed to
be restricted. What you mentioned there about the transfers when
I was doing research on this, the one thing that
that like you mentioned in the legislation that says we
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realize where transfers are and we have to deal with it. Well,
saying we have to deal with it is different than
actually dealing with it. And the biggest difference is there's
forty states that have high school in IL. So it's
not like West Virginia's a unicorn here. This is a
relatively common thing that's going on these days. There's nothing
necessarily wrong with that. The problem is our transfer rules
are way out of step with the rest of these
states that have high school NIL and how those two
things are going to combine, I have no idea.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Yeah, and again that's one thing that's going to have
to be addressed because the reality is is that there
are going to be situations in which, you know, a
kid is going to be incentivized to transfer to said school,
you know, you know, by way of an NIL deal.
Whether that's you know, on the level or not, that's
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going to be the reality in some situations. So we
don't want to sit up programs. We don't want to
set up kids for failure. So again, I think those
that's one of the things that I would like to
see it maybe a little bit more fleshed out. And
in addition, you know, as far as pitying truth, you know,
the onus on our principles, I think maybe we're going
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to have to have a third party at least, we're
gonna have to start to kick that around. As far
as enforcement, and actually to go over these things because
again there you know when you talk about specifically, you
know the transfer thing, you're gonna have to have some
investigations that come with that as kids move and get
nil deals and sort of keeping up with those things.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, that's the and that's the and and to kind
of explain that to where I was heading with this
and what you were talking about, kind of building the
slide as we're on it. The problem to me anyway,
is that the place that should have given us a
model to kind of bounce off of the n C
double A didn't do a good job to start with.
So they created the chaos by basically leaning into the
(24:57):
chaos and just saying, hey, if everybody's going to p money,
we're going to print money too. We'll figure it out
on the box side. And so we don't have a
model to really model any of this after everybody is
just kind of chasing their own intel because there isn't
something to look up to and say, well, this is
a model that works, because there isn't one that really
works right now.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Yeah, and again, and I'll give credit to the WDSSAC.
One thing that I feel like they did get right
is that from the start that went on hitting the
next collectives and boosters out of this. So now kids,
you know, you're just not getting money to come to
said school. That's good without it necessarily being earned. So
(25:33):
I think that's probably the biggest thing that they got
right in this, and that this is as I read
it and understand it, this is a true nil. So
you have to actually you know, I mean, companies have
to want you to promote said products. So I think
that's one thing they did get right in.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
This, and that will kind of lead into the last
couple of minutes of the conversation that I was hoping
to have here because and this is all my generation,
not nothing from Delegate Lewis here. I was just wondering
if he could help me steer through some of these
things that I was warning about what you said about
we mentioned there's no school related promotions to this, so
it's it's about the the the individual student athlete and
(26:15):
their brand. So if you play for for for Capitol
High or anybody else, your school is not going to
be involved with that. So it's not like your school
is going to be necessarily brokering for the coach or
the and that's just it, nor the coach. So the
coaches are supposed to steer clear in general, adults are
supposed to steer clear of this as far as the
negotiation and in the in the in the implementation of
(26:36):
the revenue. Yeah, so that would be coaches, boosters, alumni
and and and all of those things. Another thing is
that's that's technically banned, is no recruiting via n I L.
But how in the world is that going to be enforced?
Speaker 5 (26:52):
Again, it's one of those things that I don't know
how you enforced that. Again. I believe the w v
S S a C. I believe they have investigation. But
you know, we're talking about you know, thousands, tens of
thousands of kids. And when you talk about not only
high school, we're talking about we're talking about middle school too,
So you're talking about you know, hundreds of thousands of
(27:12):
kids across you know, a lot of different sports. So
that's gonna be a big list. And to your point,
coaches not being involved, you know, that's probably a good thing,
but I think it's just, you know, we just have
(27:34):
to be very careful to your point, how we this
thing is execute and implement it, because there could be
issues not just with you know, the coaches and different
things like that, but with the parents now looking at
nil deal instead of like the student athletes, instead of
worrying about winning games and championship. They're trying to get
(27:56):
their kids in the position where they are, you know,
have more leves as far as that is concerned. And
I believe the only far as you know, school personnel,
like I said, is the principal is going to be
involved in a process, and I believe that the students
would have to report said deals to principle and they
would have to review those.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
It's just see, I mean, I understand where we're going
with it. It seems extraordinarily complicated as as far as
how to keep this on the up and up, how
to keep it from from kind of evolving into some
of these situations that we're talking about. As far as
with recruiting, with adults being involved in somewhere or another.
It's like adults can't be involved, But how can adults
(28:38):
not be involved and also teach the children how to
manage their money? Is there going to be agents? You know?
Is somebody going to act as that?
Speaker 5 (28:46):
So again, it doesn't address that, but I would imagine
there'll be even if you don't have what we think
of traditional agents quote unquote, I believe there's probably at
least going to be some brokers. So for example, if
if I'm the guy and I know god b who
has said businesses are looking for promotion, then I could,
you know, act as a middleman between that deal. So
(29:07):
I believe you're probably gonna have situations like that. And
what I want to remind you know, parents, coaches and
everybody involved in this is that in order to get
adequate NIL deals, you know, I think number one, you know,
you have to be good at what you're doing as
far as you know, on on the field, you're on
court or whatever, you want to be in a winning program.
(29:30):
So we have to, you know, you know, remind ourselves
of the foundations of what this is. And if you
take care of your business over here, then those things
can come. But even with that, it's not guaranteed to
come because it's you know, name, image and likeness. So
like I said, you know, we're we're money money in
(29:52):
the water, but this is where we're at. So I
actually applaud the w B S s SC for even
looping forward with it. Is there's no reason for us
to be number fifty if you know number forty four,
so you know this is where we're at, so we miles, well,
just go ahead and address it and deal with it,
and like I said, I think it will be fine
tuned over time.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
One last question that I was wondering about, and this
is again just goes into with every level that we're
trying to remove barriers, other barriers get put into place.
So this all sounds good and you were leaning into
it and things might work out with it, but then
you think about, well, certainly there's more there's more opportunities
in Charleston for there to be people offering anile than
(30:35):
there is and say play county. So although you may
not be quote unquote recruiting, you know, actively going out
and trying to get the best players from another county
or something like that, the obvious matriculation may be that
players are just going to move from one place that
might be more rule with less opportunity trying to get
to places that are going to have more opportunity for
the nil opportunities.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
That's actually a really really good point and it brings
up another issue that you know, if a parent felt like, hey,
you know, my child is going to be better in
this school or this county or this area of the state,
and they're going to be able to get more NIL deals.
And then there's problems as far as like, well, you
can't transfer for the NIL deal. It could create problems, right.
(31:18):
And also I think what we have to remember too is,
in addition to you know, locale which is going to
be important, also your social media presence is going to
be very important as well. So what that means is
that we're going to have you know, obviously parents creating
social media accounts for their kids as at younger ages.
But and you're going to have deals that are not
(31:40):
just bound to West Virginia. You know, we can be
talking about national companies, right, But you also don't want
to create a situation in which you know, you're quote
unquote doing it for the gram to try to be
silly and get attention in order to spark set NIL deals.
So there's going to have to be a fine balance.
I believe there's we're going to have a need for
(32:02):
education again, as we mentioned with the kids as far
as on the financial literary side, but we're also going
to need that same education for parents. We're going to
need that same education for coaches and administrators as well
in order to make sure that we're navigating these waters
in a way that's going to be conducive to the
development of young people. Because at the end of the day,
(32:24):
when we're talking about sports, sports are condouan for you know,
setting up somebody for the rest of their life as
far as being able to work with the team, and
you know, a lot of Fortune five hundred companies they're
looking for, you know, collegian athletes. So we have to
remember what they're there for and just think about nil
as a bonus and not get lost in it as
(32:48):
far as what sports are here to provide us.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Now, I think that's some very good insights, and I
would just make the appeal to parents out there because
we've all seen it. You and Carl Leave address it
on his program and especially when it first started, but
we've seen how sort of the parental influence when it
comes to student athletes trying to set your kid up
to be I mean, I hate to put it this way,
but sometimes you see it as kids being set up
(33:11):
to be the payday for the family. It's it is
what it is. That's just the truth. We've already seen
that in recruiting. In recruiting areas where you're trying to
get your kid in front of a recruiter, it used
to be you'd send tape out, you would do all
these pleas to try to get them out there. So
now instead of taking your close to adult child and
(33:33):
pushing forth their information to try to get him in
front of a recruiter, we're going to be starting even
younger getting information out there in front of people to
offer them money for their endorsements, which again is the
place that we're at. But I'm just asking parents, please, man,
think of the kid first, and maybe think about the
education too. That gets kind of lost sometimes in all
of this discussion. But man, I've seen this happen on
(33:54):
the bad side of things, where parents push their kids
set them up as a pay day a little too much,
and it can get very ugly, very quickly.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Yeah, And I think what players will realize is, like
you know, and you know I've worked, you know, I've
done a lot of work in the NIL for the
past couple of years, and this isn't easy. So, like
I said, even if your kid is good at what
they do that doesn't necessarily make them marketable to promote
said product. So it's not going to just be like, hey,
(34:20):
my kids the number one you know golfer or tennis player,
a football player or whatever like that, and all look
and it's going to be automatic, you know, money braining in.
It's not going to be like that. There is going
to be some work to be done behind the scenes.
But to you to your exact point, you can't get
lost in that then forget what we're here for. We
we're here to develop and cultivate student athletes in order
(34:43):
to prepare them for a life as adults. So that's
the primary focus. So I think longest we keep that,
you know, in mind, we keep that in focused, then
everything else is just a cherry on top.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
That's great stuff. Delica Hollis Lewis joining us here on
five Day Life. I always appreciate your insight into this
space when we talk about NIO and our kids and
in athletes here in high school in West Virginia and
in below. Thank you so much for your time this morning,
Delicate Lewis. I really appreciate your time.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Thank you, sir, I appreciate you. Have a good day,
all right.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
We'll see you later on. That's Hollis Lewis joining US
delegate here in Kannall County and also part of the
car Lee Let's Talk Family podcast, one of the frequent
co hosts when they're along with Lisa Odie. You can
check that out on our network as well. I think
this is a hugely valuable discussion. There's like delicate. Lewisaid,
there's no reason for West Virginia to be behind right
now because every other state is doing it. But man,
(35:33):
we got to do this right. Man, we got to
do it right. We'll figure out a way to get
into the right lane. Anyway. When we come back, we're
going to talk about the WVU Children's Hospital radio thon.
It's our second annual one that's coming up next week.
We want to talk about that more when we come back.
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Anyway I could, I could probably do it in the future.
I'll have to think about anyway. Anthony stuck around nice enough.
Thank you, Anthony. I appreciate you taking care of me
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Logan Scot's joining us now. He is the program director
with V one hundred, also does the drive home over
there in the evenings. But Logan's here today to talk
about the WU Children's radiothon that we're doing next week.
(39:32):
It's our second annual time doing that. I'll let you
kind of set the stage for this. It's gonna be
next week, so we're going to be putting this out
on the air. But what is w Children's.
Speaker 14 (39:41):
WVU Medicine Children's, No child is ever turned away, regardless
of their family's ability to pay. That's that's their motto,
that's their mission. Every child, every family gets the life
saving care that they need at WVU Medicine children. So
we think the hospitals in Morgantown and people here in
Kannak County don't utilize w VU Medicine Children's. Last year
(40:02):
in Kanawah County one three hundred and ninety five families
turned to WVU Medicine Children's and just Kanah County at Wow.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (40:10):
So if you look down at the look at the
breakdown of counties throughout the state of West Virginia, I
don't have I didn't do the math this morning, but
thousands upon thousands of families in West Virginia turned to
WVU Medicine Children's in some way, shape or.
Speaker 10 (40:22):
Form for care.
Speaker 14 (40:23):
I mean I have a personal time my cousin, she
had suffered an eye injury when she was playing soccer.
She's fine, Thank God, and thank for WV Thank you
to WVU Medicine Children's to provide who provided the care
to her. She was able to use that resource right
in our backyard. I'm from the eastern Panhandle, so it's
about an hour and a half drive. So everybody, I
(40:45):
always say, everybody knows somebody a family who has utilized
WVU Medicine Children's or who has received care there.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
So what we're gonna be doing during the radio fun
We'll be taking donations and also sharing some stories and
successes and things like that. And this is really important
and powerful to our state, because like this state has
some obstacles when it comes to health, our children have
some obstacles when it comes to health and getting access
to health. We have some medical deserts in the state
of West Virginia where it's hard to get access to
(41:12):
that and not to mention just overbearing costs and different
things like this. This is part of the Children's Miracle
Network of hospitals and the work that they do is
just immense. It's incredible work, it is.
Speaker 14 (41:22):
And I did a thing a while back in May
the goodmar Ballpark, camping for kids, and I actually had
some of our local families because there are families from
Hurricane that joined me from Charleston and just to meet
them hear their stories, and we'll hear some of their
stories during Radiothon as well. But it's just it's very
It makes you step back and realize, you know, the
(41:44):
great things that WVU Medicine Children's does, and they have
some outpatient facilities down here as well in Charleston, so
families don't have to make the drive to Morgantown.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
And when we do this Radiothon, you know, I know,
Radiothon's on the people when they tune into the radio
to have different thoughts of the way we try to do.
So we're gonna have people one location, So you're going
up to Morgantown. Let's actually do this the F one hundred.
Jenny will be on site from six to noon. I'll
be on site from noon to six, and then on
our sister station KWS, Rob Reel is going to be
up there as well. So we're going to be at
the hospital in Morgantown. And some of these families are
(42:15):
you know, I told them in setting us up, I said, hey,
you can come into our studios and we'll talk to
you that way. A lot of these families want to
go to Morgantown to see the doctors and the nurses
that took care of them. I get that. Yeah, I
totally get that. Although I haven't tapped into that service.
My wife and I had to have our child through
IVF and it's always kind of a special moment I
(42:36):
can see, like the nursing staff and the doctors and
stuff who took care of us, because it's a very
intimate life changing moment, you know, and you kind of
identify with those people for a long time. So I
totally get that and just the amount of passion and
care that goes into it. With you and Jenny and
Rob going up there, they couldn't have more community minded
people that's going to be running this thing and telling
(42:56):
us about it. And so when you hear it on
our station CCHS over here, we're more of a report stations,
So we're going to tell you about it, give you
the ways that you can make donations and stuff to it.
But when the primary stations is going to be up there,
like V one hundred and KWS, they're going to have stories.
They're going to tell you about what's going on. They'll
have patients on the air to tell you how they
got from point A to Z with all the help
from WVU Medicine Children's I mean, the stories are powerful
(43:18):
and they're compelling, and we're going to ask you to,
you know, if you can, if you can afford to
donate a little bit, to donate. If it's five dollars,
it's five dollars. If it's fifty, it's fifty. If it's
five hundred, it's five hundred, that's great. But this this
is driven by community efforts as well.
Speaker 14 (43:32):
Absolutely, and last year our company WVRC Media, we raised
almost two hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
For WVU Medicine.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Children.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Think about that and that goes back to life saving care.
Speaker 14 (43:42):
So we think if you're going to the hospital, you know,
your life changes in an instant. You're not taking clothes,
you're not taking iPads, you're not taking you know, things
that give comfort to your kiddo. So there we bought.
We bought Teddy Bears iPads. There's nick View cameras for
premature base. Yeah, so there's just so many things that
(44:02):
are covered from the money that we raise. So you
can go ahead and text WVU Kids Now to three
four nine eight four for a link to give, and
we have a link on our website too at V
one hundred dot FM.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
That's great stuff, man, I'm looking forward to it coming
out next week. That'll be on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Yeah,
Thursday and Friday of next week we'll be doing the
radio thought. You can check it out on V one
hundred or KWS. We'll be offering support over here and
give a listen. If your heart feels compelled, then we
ask you to just maybe help out the hospital.
Speaker 14 (44:28):
Absolutely, and and it's a very emotional two days.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
It is a hospital TA. Yeah, it's from you guys.
It's a lot tougher because you're up there with the
folks that really experienced it. That's very true. Logan, thanks
for Tom Man. I really appreciate it. That's Logan Scott
joining us, the program director of V one hundred. We
need to take a break. When we come back, I'll
kind of clean up the show. I got a lot
of stuff I'm going to tell you about being a
program director over here. We've been putting some things behind
the scenes recently. I'm going to tell you about some
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on the radio today. So we're going to do that
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I want to give you a reminder coming up later
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The Reds game is at five to ten. Is the
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about bowl games and getting into the National Championship, but
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between the NFL and college football, we're going to have
about one hundred games on five eight wcchs. So you
might be out there at are thinking about which streaming
service am I going to pay for? Do I need
this to get this sport? Am I going to get
the forty dollars ESPN Paramount package so I can watch
this you could just listen to the radio for free,
just an option. Tjo Meadows has joined me down in
the studio. I think he has a big show coming
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up here in just a few minutes. On the talk line,
how are you doing this, morny TJ?
Speaker 10 (49:49):
Good sir, how are you not bad?
Speaker 11 (49:51):
Not bad?
Speaker 2 (49:51):
This is you're all familiar with these quick turnarounds, but
I've been complaining about it all morning, that turnaround from
the Expert show at eight twenty to nine to doing
this at like nine oh seven. That's quick, man, that's
really fast. That's really fast.
Speaker 18 (50:04):
And you know people got to take a vacation every
now and then.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yeah, Dave needed to get out of here. I thought
I was gonna have to push him out the door
at some point because he needed some time off. So
I'm glad he's finally getting something.
Speaker 18 (50:13):
And he doesn't he's not one to I'm sure he
doesn't take all the time that he has.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
Not any well. I mean, yeah, he's not officially been
a full time of playing for it to have all
those time, but still he doesn't take what he needs.
Speaker 18 (50:23):
Yeah, he's always I mean he's burning it all the
time at both ends. So he's a good dude like that.
He's always out, so I'm hoping he's enjoyed himself whatever
he's doing. But yeah, so we got a lot of
things going on, Koop. We're going to sell some state hospitals, apparently,
the governor announcing that yesterday, so a lot of angles.
There are people that like that idea, there are people
that don't like that idea. There's also this sixty million
dollars that apparently we're going to get from selling these assets.
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What are we going to do with that sixty million dollars?
I guess that depends on how bad you think the
budget is. And I'm sure the governor has his ideas
about how we would spend that, and then you have
the legislature, who i'm sure has their ideas about how
we will spend that. So we'll talk about that issue,
and then we're going to spend some time today on
what's happening in the District of Columbia with this takeover
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in Washington, d C. We've got a couple of guests
with different angles on that and what they think. I
wrote about that today at wv Metro news dot com.
You can read that piece. You know, we talked about
the statistics yesterday. Yes they're down, and anytime they're down,
that's good. But man, talk about a murder rate. I
think it was one hundred and eighty seven murders in
d C last year, over two thousand robberies, over one
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thousand assaults with a deadly weapon. I used to work
in d C base there, although I would work out
of my house, and I gotta tell you, not the
not the safest place in the world, but not the
worst either. I mean, you look at Saint Louis. Their
murder rate fifty four point one compared to DC's twenty
seven point three. I think it was you think about that,
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fifty four murders for every thousand people in Saint Louis.
They clearly have issues there too.
Speaker 2 (51:56):
There's it's not just the cities that has the problems
in the country. The murder rates and a lot of
from a lot of places that complain about the cities
are higher than the cities. Yeah, So I mean I
get it, I get it. But if we're going to
privatize the police force in DC, then maybe we need
to go into Missouri. Maybe we need to go into Tennessee.
There's a lot of places that we need to go
then invest the.
Speaker 18 (52:16):
Case well, and I think understanding why we can do
this in DC or why the president they can do
it versus not a state.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
He talks about New York Chicago. That's not gonna fly.
Those are just be honest. Yeah, Yeah, it's an interesting
discussion I'll have. I'm gonna have a guy on tomorrow
to talk about it as well on this show, so
I'll hopefully be able to pitch a dovetail rather off
of some of the information that you guys give, so
appreciate it. That's coming up next. That's going to be
talking on with TJ. Meadows and Dave Wilson. That's coming
up next. Thanks so much for tuning in on five
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of E Love. What do you see It?
Speaker 10 (52:44):
Just a howty six point five that's in Charleston one