12/23/2025 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Rusty Webb, Andy Shamblin

Rusty Webb on foster care and Delegate Andy Shamblin on Cross Lanes traffic.

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Tuesday edition of the show day before Christmas Eve. Of course,
tomorrow our annual Jewish Christmas Spectacular with Mike Pushkin and
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else we can get to get into on the show

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coming up tomorrow. On this show Today, Delicate, Andy Shamlin
is going to stop by. We spent a lot of
time with the Delegate Shamlin talking about traffic specifically in
cross lanes with a widening project going on. We get
an update on that with Delicate Shamlin coming up, plus
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five zero zero. Do want to start with the story
though out of the news that is just breaking and
we'll have more on this coming up a little bit
later on. Understand that w COCHS television reporting that three
people were found dead following a house fire in Huntington
early this morning. The fire reported at around five forty
eight m this morning at an abandoned structure in the

(02:47):
three hundred block of West eighth Street. That's according to
the Huntington Fire Department. Firefighters arrived there, they found heavy smoke,
with the fire seemed to be contained. The blaze was
fully extinguished. Three people were found dead inside that dwelling.
Again just after five twenty five or so this morning,
an abandoned structure and the three hundred block of West
eighth Street and Huntings and that, according to the Hunting
and Fire Department, will of course have more on that

(03:08):
coming up throughout the show. I want to welcome into
the show now our good friend, Attorney Rusty Webb. Hey
doing my friend.

Speaker 7 (03:15):
I'm fantastic.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
Do you have to think about it? From him?

Speaker 8 (03:19):
No?

Speaker 7 (03:19):
I had to clear my throat.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Okayed, need that wrap hook that let me clear my throat?

Speaker 7 (03:25):
Me clear my throat?

Speaker 6 (03:26):
All right, I'm going to have you.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
I am going to take you up on your offer
to go to lunch or dinner sometime at Bourbon Street Bistro.

Speaker 6 (03:34):
I when we both get time.

Speaker 9 (03:35):
Oh gosh, I eat there every day, every day, every day.
And yesterday I heard there was a couple behind me.
They weren't together, but one guy was saying, I'm going
to do the food tour. Basically, I'm going to come
here every day and have something different. And the other
young lady said, was you know, messing with Curtis? And said,

(03:57):
do I could I get a Beigne? Every time I
refers somebody, I mean, it's it's it's uh, it's a phenomenon.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
And your a little bias because you you actually owned
the building. I'm the building, but that notwithstanding. But I
had other restaurants in there. I've just never seen this
a restaurant. I've had Jamaican restaurant pizzas, but nothing nothing
like this. What's your favorite thing on the menu, Crawfish
at fe I love it.

Speaker 9 (04:26):
I mean you just get one day that one day jambalaya,
one day gumbo, one day redfish, one day po boy.

Speaker 7 (04:34):
The Poe Boy could feed a family of four.

Speaker 6 (04:37):
I mean it's just that, or two Dave Allens or
two Dave Oulans.

Speaker 9 (04:40):
Yeah, I mean it's they're huge, They're just and and
the bread is French.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
It's all I've been talking to.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
I've actually sent Curtis, who's a good friend of mine,
Attax yesterday and I told him, I said, I'm gonna
try to make it down there, just as responsible you
invited me to go and I and I'm I'm going.

Speaker 6 (04:55):
To take you up on that. I'm gonna get down there.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
I was hoping I could make it down there last night,
but some things happened and I didn't get to make it.
But I am going to try to make it as
soon as possible because it's given, it's been given the
rusty web sealable approval. And that's my kind of cooking,
you know. I mean it really I love I love
cajun or anything like that.

Speaker 7 (05:10):
I do too, I do too. It was like a
dream come true.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
And the response to it has been incredible. I mean,
I will honestly say this, and this is very rare
in the in the restaurant business.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
I will say this.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
I have read I think one review that was less
than stellar, and by lessons stellar, I don't mean awful,
I mean just and that's gonna happen at any restaurant.
I mean, you know that everything has just been phenomenal
for these folks down there.

Speaker 9 (05:39):
Yeah, I was in there Saturday. I wanted to get
some fries and wings for the playoffs, you know, for
the football. That's kind of my football food. And on
a Saturday to have a restaurant full, that's that's that's
that's unheard of, and.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
We certainly wish them the best.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
You wanted to come on to they'd talk about foster
care rusting. It's, yeah, a major issue in West Virginia.
I mean, we know that goes the understatement of the year.

Speaker 9 (06:06):
Well, I thought it had been resolved, Dave. You know,
we were talking about this in the nineties, in the
late nineties, early two thousands, about all of the kids
that were placed in all state foster care homes. I
thought it had been resolved until I saw this, you know,
this press release with the governor, and there were three

(06:26):
hundred and eighty of them, and it's like thirty eight
million dollars a year that we're paying. And I got
to thinking, there are so many facilities here that could
be retrofitted to not just give foster care kids an
ordinary life, but an extraordinary life. And the best example

(06:48):
is the old West Virginia Tech campus, which is half
of which is being used by Mountain Air Challenge Academy
right now.

Speaker 7 (06:55):
So you have the infrastructure already there.

Speaker 9 (06:57):
You have the cafeteria, have the you have the athletic
facility there that that Tech had, which was then a
y and I think it's not even being used now.
You have administrative buildings, you have Bridge Valley that's no
longer there, and they invested hundreds of thousands of dollars
in in making these buildings nice again. And there are

(07:20):
dormitories up there. I mean, it's that's just one place.
You know, I mentioned three others. They're they're privately owned.
This is the this is the one that's owned by
the State of West Virginia. But there are just there's
so many facilities that could be used.

Speaker 7 (07:36):
And when you bring them back, give them a better
life than they would have had.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Is the problem though, rusty A lack of facilities or
a lack of people to run said facilities.

Speaker 7 (07:47):
No, you can, you can, uh.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
Because there's a lot of excuse me, there's a lot
of jobs available in the foster cares.

Speaker 6 (07:53):
I mean a lot of jobs available.

Speaker 9 (07:55):
You can know, you can get you can get a
third party administrator. There are shoe huge organizations out there.
I'm not going to name them my name, I know
who they are that that like let's say, for example,
the governor he had like six million dollars. So I
go up and I make a proposal. Give me the
six Okay, this is hypothetic. Give me the six Let

(08:16):
me redo the dorms, let me redo these buildings, and
then I'll bring in a third party administrator to run
the place. And money chases foster care obviously, right, I mean,
they're they're per dms. There are federal dollars, there are
state dollars that that would make these these facilities run

(08:37):
and pay every and pay everyone.

Speaker 7 (08:39):
Easily, easily easily.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
How did we get here in your opinion, I mean,
I know that's a million dollar question, but how did
we get here last day?

Speaker 9 (08:46):
Well, I think if you looked at it, if you
charted it, it would chart with the opioid acdemic. I
think it would just it would just the higher the
opioid epidemic at its peak, the higher the number of
abuse and neglect cases, the higher number of parental termination.
I was in that business, you know, for thirty years
in family law. And then the higher number of foster

(09:10):
care kids. And by the way, this three eighty that
doesn't include all the ones that are in state. You know,
we have more per capita than any state in the country.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
It's sadly, it's amazing to me because you know, there's
always been foster care, foster care providers, and we get that.
But man, you're right, I mean, it goes right along
the timeline with the opioid crisis. And now I was
talking to mayor a good one on the show yesterday
and we were talking about some of the opioid settlements
that are coming to Charleston. And she said, you know,
none of the more sad than at Christmas time looking

(09:43):
around a table and realizing that, Okay, this person's not here.
And what a lot of these families rusty not to
be a downer this time of year. Well, they're looking
at multiple people that aren't there. Uncle so and so,
Aunt so and so, a grand kid, a grandmother. I mean,
I have brought up many times on this show of Family,

(10:03):
specifically in southern West Virginia, that I know that the
great grandmother is raising a small child, eight ten year
old child. Now, now think about that for a moment.
You know, with your parents, and there was always a
generation gap. Imagine being in your eighties trying to raise
an eight year old. I mean, it's just unbelievable.

Speaker 9 (10:24):
Well it's always been the grandparents, right, or great grandparents.
Now it's great great you know what I mean. Now
it's great grandparents, you know what I mean. That's even
you're you're right, that's an even larger age gap. But
as the money matriculates into the system from you know,
the cities and counties. And I just heard something on

(10:44):
the radio about Charleston engaging in that, and then the
West Virginia First Trust. Hopefully as this gets into the communities,
these statistics go down, and then the abuse and that
goes down, and the foster care goes down, everything all this,

(11:05):
you know, every all the good statistics come back.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
It seems to me in this time of year, you know,
as we start to wrap up the year and people
get through Christmas and the holidays and they look ahead,
you know, the legislative session is coming up, it seems
to me that there is no bigger issue in my
opinion than the foster care crisis.

Speaker 6 (11:24):
And I mean one, and it's a.

Speaker 9 (11:28):
Just like we called it the opioid crisis, it is
a crisis. I mean, when you have to send that many,
almost four hundred of your state children.

Speaker 7 (11:38):
To what six states, it's that's a crisis. That's a crisis.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
Well, and the statistics have proven and you know, the
whole idea is rusty, is to try to get these
kids to be you know, with family members when that's possible,
but certainly within state. Can you imagine being a foster kid,
you know, if you're and I must say an early team,
I'm just as a hypothetical one thirteen fourteen years old.
You're messed up in ahead anyway, you know at that age,

(12:03):
no matter what.

Speaker 6 (12:03):
Even with the best background. I'll say that lightly, but
you are.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
And now suddenly you're a West Virginia kid and you
find yourself in and I'm just making upstates, and you
find yourself in Illinois, right, you know, with with kids
around you that don't don't.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
You don't have, you don't have, you don't have a
lot in common death, you know what I mean, And.

Speaker 9 (12:22):
They're probably making fun of your accent and and vice versa.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
I mean, you know, you take a kid from somewhere
there and if you sit them here, it'd be the
exact same thing. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I just I
think we got to I mean, again, not not to
state the obvious rusting, but we got to get a
handle on this. And it's the problem only is getting worse.
And I talked about the openings in that field. I mean,
there are thousands of jobs available for social workers in

(12:47):
West Virginia, thousands, and it's a thankless job. And with
what we've seen over the last couple of years, with
these horrible situations, like think about Kennedy Miller down and
you're part of the world down in Boone Camp. When
you see those stories like that, it only puts the
exclamation point about how big the problem is. And so

(13:08):
many people within that system. And Amelia Niceley, our friend
of the program it's on from West Virginia Watch, rites
about this extensively, and she's interviewed people countless, people that
just say, look, I want to They got into this
because they wanted to help.

Speaker 6 (13:23):
They're throwing their hands up, say I can't do this anymore.

Speaker 9 (13:25):
Yeah, well, you know even when I was, when I
was involved, you some of these foster care families, they're
like dormitories.

Speaker 7 (13:37):
I mean, they build bunk rooms.

Speaker 9 (13:39):
To try to house kids, so they're they're kind of
in that bunk room system now. But my point is this, legislature, governor,
you know, if you're listening, don't make their don't bring
them back and make their life ordinary, make it extraordinary.

Speaker 7 (13:58):
You know. I would of nothing better than to be.

Speaker 9 (14:01):
The activities director for a foster care What.

Speaker 6 (14:06):
You wish for?

Speaker 7 (14:07):
No, No, I'm serious.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
I wanted to be.

Speaker 9 (14:10):
Part of the foster care college at Tech so bad.
I basically volunteered as a consultant. There's just so many
activities that they could think they can do that you
can enrich their lives in West Virginia.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Just and give them something to care about. Because pretty
much with a lot of these kids rush ees, you
well know, all all that they've known is suitcases in
some cases not even that's just all they've done. Give
them something. I know you're you're quite into the in
the into the sports. Give them something, give them, give

(14:46):
them theater, give them something, yes, to tap into their interest.

Speaker 9 (14:50):
Yes, yes, motivate them. I mean, don't just house them.
Make them better than than you know, like the six
million dollar man. Make them better than they were, make
them just I just I just implore my friends, you know,
in the legislature and the governor.

Speaker 7 (15:08):
And I texted him.

Speaker 9 (15:10):
I texted him, I'll text him until he cuts me off.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
I'll text before we let you go. I do want
to ask you.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
The legislative session is going to be coming up here
once we get through the holidays. And last a couple
of weeks ago, Speaker Handshaw came out with with members
of the Republican Caucus and said, we are going to
focus on business jobs, things of that nature and you
know that came from the House, that didn't come from
the Senate. Your wish list. As somebody who follows as
closely and as a former legislator, your wish list for

(15:40):
the twenty twenty six legislative session.

Speaker 9 (15:43):
I agree with everything that Speaker Handshaw said. I would
again start the number one priority has to be foster
care and returning these kids and the children that are
here enriching their lives. I mean, clearly, I wouldn't have
posted these things if it wasn't high on my mind.
But let me be very honest in front of this

(16:05):
entire state. Right now, we're the most conservative social state
in the world. Let's start focusing on the economic development.
You know, we've just we just get so bogged down
in these social issues. Let's let's let's put them aside
for a year or two where you can't get any
more conservative than we are, right uh.

Speaker 7 (16:28):
And let's focus on economic development.

Speaker 9 (16:30):
Because every every day when you go out and I
go out, you've never seen a state that's cognizant of
its own economy. Everybody has an opinion. Literally other states
they don't have to worry about here, we worry. We
worry about our state. We were like, let's build the economy.
What about tourism, what about heritage tourism. I mean, gosh,

(16:53):
there's so much low hanging fruit out there. Dave so
much low hanging fruit in the So number two is tourism,
heritage tourism, recreational tourism. We were like the Disneyland, disney
World of the country. Everything that Disney World has, we
have it in real life, you know. And that's not

(17:14):
a shot at our Tourism director. She's still in a
wonder knocked it out of the park. She's done a
wonderful job. But there's so much more we could do.
Like I was in Pikeville, I told you Pipeville and
bless her heart. And again, not a shot at Logan
County or Mingo County. But their Hatfield and McCoy experience

(17:38):
is so far ahead of ours. Theirs are like again
Disney World. We're still like, uh, you know, asking for directions,
Where's what's his name's house?

Speaker 7 (17:49):
Where's what? Where was this battle fought?

Speaker 9 (17:52):
Listen, Southern West Virginia has so much halfields of McCoy's
a civil war, a little bit of the Revolutionary War.
We haven't even scratched the surface. So when I was
in nineteen ninety six, when I was elected legislator, here's
what I did. They gave me a little desk. And
I'll leave you with this. They gave me a little
desk in a big room. Everybody had nicer desks. I

(18:13):
had a little desk and put I put my little
map up, and I put little pins on the Civil
War sites that I wanted to develop for tourism. I'm
still trying to get my little map for tourism, except
I think have fields of McCoy's has huge potential.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
Pikefull if you look, and you and I were talking
about this during the break. I haven't been to Pikeville
in a number of years, but I can tell you
you talk about a city that is exploding right now,
little old pike woul Kentucky.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
It's not that far from here.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
They're getting major concerts, they got a great university, they
got a great medical facility there. Pikeville right now is
doing it right there.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
Really arrested. We had to leave it there. I appreciate
you being here.

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Merry Christmas, Okay, Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 6 (21:16):
I don't think we have a castle though, so it's
a texture. We're working on it. We'll get us.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
I got a text here. I don't think you'd mind
me telling you. From the Mayor of Montgomery, good friend
of the program, Greg Ingram said, don't forget we have
buildings challenge Bridge Valley and a hospital.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
Say it's a text.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
Texas, Hey, Rusty, web, no one's stopping you from doing it.
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Speaker 6 (21:46):
Talk is cheap.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Rusty, happy to work with you, says a text. All right, Rusty,
if you're listening, somebody is there, happy to work with you.
Welcome to the show, now, Republican from the House of Delegates,
Andy Shamlin from the fifty ninth Good morning, Sarah, Welcome
to the show.

Speaker 14 (21:59):
Good morning, Dave. Good to see you this morning.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Thank you for being I want to want to talk
about traffic and cross lanes and all that, but but
before I get to that, I do want to go
back to our last segment for a moment. As everyone knows,
in addition to being in the House, you are a teacher,
a high school teacher by trade. You see firsthand the
foster care crisis in West Virginia.

Speaker 6 (22:19):
So you and a few others that are in your
role when you go into the legislature, I mean you
you see this on a daily basis.

Speaker 14 (22:28):
Absolutely. I mean I related so much to what Rusty
was talking about. I've seen and and dealt with so
many grandparents who are raising their grandkids and even great grandparents.
I've seen lots of folks who are in their eighties
trying to raise high school children. Yeah, so, I mean

(22:49):
it is a It is an epidemic in West Virginia.
There's no question about it. And I think that it's
it cuts across all socioeconomic staff is it cuts across
every community. It's a it's definitely a huge challenge that
we're facing.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
And you know when as a teacher, when you're trying
to educate these young minds and you're looking out there
and you have students and I know you've experienced at
firsthand the students that that are homeless, and homeless doesn't
always mean you're living under a bridge. Homeless means you're
couch surfing as they call it. You're you don't have
a permanent place to call home. It's hard to concentrate

(23:27):
on learning the three branches of government, you know what
when when when you don't know where you're going to
sleep that night?

Speaker 14 (23:33):
Yeah, if you if you don't have that, if you
don't have some sort of stability as a as a
young person in school, I mean, you don't really care
about how a bill becomes along, right, it's not your
highest priority, right, And it's I will say there there's
a lot more emphasis placed on obtaining that information from

(23:58):
the school system now. I think schools are generally much
more aware of those challenges that students are facing today
than they were even fifteen years ago.

Speaker 6 (24:08):
When I was a senior in high school.

Speaker 14 (24:10):
I mean, we have a a homeless liaison that works
for Kennall County Schools and they have so many schools
assigned to them, and it's their job basically to facilitate
assistance and services for those students who who are who
do not have permanent housing. And as you pointed out,
most of the time that doesn't look like them living

(24:30):
necessarily on the street as we might think. It's them bouncing.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
From the buddy's house or their uncle's house, or whatever
the case may be. And uh and and as a
we're going to put on your legislator UH hat for
a moment. I mean, I know there's been a lot
of legislators on both sides of the isle, uh that
have that are trying, but you know, with what they
can with foster care. But man, what what what a
daunting challenge it is in West Virginia.

Speaker 14 (24:55):
It it truly is. And and you know, the the
age and sees that are responsible for that have a
lot of good people working in them, but there are
also a lot of systemic challenges. Splitting d h HR
into into different agencies about two or three years back,
was intended to provide some more accountability and transparency for

(25:18):
the foster care system. I think the jury still out
in terms of whether or not that's going to bear fruit.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
What would you like to see done? I mean, obviously
we want to fix it. That's stuff, but but I mean,
what's what steps do you support?

Speaker 14 (25:35):
I think the I think one of the key things
is more transparency. One thing that's been worked on now
it seems like it's it's just a continual project is
like a foster care dashboard so that we can see
and we can track the number of kids who are
in foster care placements. And one thing that I do

(25:56):
applaud Governor Morsey for is, you know we have I
would hesitate to give a number because I would be incorrect,
but we have many children who are placed out of state.

Speaker 7 (26:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
Yeah. We talked about the rust of ye.

Speaker 14 (26:09):
And it is costing the state a tremendous amount of
money to continue those placements. And somehow we have got
to figure out a way to house these children in
state closer to the resources that they need in order
to be successful.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
Well and Rusty I thought had some really really good ideas,
you know about some properties, but I don't think that
it's all just about the properties and the places to
put them. I think it's the people, because we simply
have thousands and do you know this, We have thousands
of openings and within that social work system, within the
foster care system, and once we have thousands, and I.

Speaker 14 (26:46):
Think that's representative of a of a greater problem, not
just among social workers, but lots of state agencies. Pay
for state workers is a problem. The EIA calls are
a problem, and we've got we've got to put some
more money into these agencies to raise pay so that

(27:08):
we can attract good quality workers to take these jobs.
And some of it, you know, budgets are a reflection
of priorities, and our budget needs to reflect the fact
that staffing these agencies and attracting good quality workers is
of paramount importance.

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(27:50):
traffic with this project. You and I have talked about
it several times in the past. Where are we now?
What's going on as we speak?

Speaker 15 (27:55):
You know, it's funny.

Speaker 14 (27:56):
I was in Charleston yesterday having lunch Adelphia and this
older man came up to me and he said, he said,
I know who you are. He said, I've been wanting
to meet you for so long because he said, you're
on TV all the time. You're the guy that's managing
the traffic in cross lanes Aladelphia's in Charles.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
Is that what you're doing, You're managing the traffics. I
know I can't handle that for spons So what's what's
going on now?

Speaker 14 (28:23):
Well, yesterday was a crucial phase of the road project,
and from ten am yesterday until ten pm, basically the
section of road from the four way stop I give
West Virginia.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Next to the rushed out Silverado and where the one
eyed dog is, we go ahead.

Speaker 14 (28:46):
Great the four way stop on six twenty two, which
is the intersection of Cross Lanes Drive and Washington Street
from the from the stoplight to Kroger's. Kroger's is right
across from Andrew Jackson Middle School. Trying to visualize it,
that's the section we're talking about was fully opened with

(29:06):
four lanes, one lane exiting cross Lanes, two lanes going
into cross Lanes, and a turning lane in the middle.
So that section of the project, although it is not
fully complete, a very crucial step, and I think that
we'll see a lot of traffic improvement as a consequence

(29:26):
of that section of the project being.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
And how long has that particular portion been going on? Oh, it's.

Speaker 14 (29:35):
From the day that it started, so June two thou
or wait a minute, I'm sorry, April twenty twenty three.

Speaker 4 (29:42):
Until out Okay. And what's it going to mean for
that area? I mean, I know you said it's partially
open at this point, but what is it going to
mean overall?

Speaker 14 (29:48):
Well, overall, I think that folks will have an easier
time at least going home each evening in their evening
commute getting into cross Lanes. It should be a little
bit easier now. Now, the the other side of that
coin is that means the section from the four way

(30:09):
stop to the interstate is now going to receive full
attention from the contractor, So that section is going to
start seeing a lot more movement, a lot more construction.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Okay, what's our time frame there, which I like immediately
or after the first of the year or what.

Speaker 14 (30:25):
You'll see some activity immediately, and I think you'll see
it continue throughout the winter. That's the intention, is for
the contractor to remain working throughout.

Speaker 6 (30:34):
This which a lot of it also depends on the
weather as well.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
No, we had an entire winter's week, you know, last
week and the week before, and the long term forecast
for what that's worth for the first of the year
looks like it's pretty mild. So hopefully they'll be able
to you know, to continue to work on it if
we have a mild winter, right.

Speaker 14 (30:53):
That's the plan, and I think that next spring you'll
see that really come to fruition.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
And when give me a timeframe of when you expect
everything to be done, and I know you're not. You
don't have a crystal ball, and things happen with supply
demands and things of that nature. But ideally, best case scenario.

Speaker 14 (31:11):
Best case scenario February of twenty.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Twenty seven, is the completion thing well, and you know,
as my grandpa used to say, you're a lot closer
than you used to be, So think about it that way.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
And what will this mean overall when the entire thing
is finished.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
I mean, you know, it's not just because it's not
just about traffic and traffic nightmares and things of that nature.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
It's about business. It's about a whole lot of other things.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Maybe people that want to go into a business in
those surrounding areas that maybe that's been a red flag
that they didn't want to go because of that reason.

Speaker 6 (31:42):
Talk about that.

Speaker 14 (31:43):
I think that the completed project will will definitely raise
property values in the immediate area. It'll make that property
more valuable because you can access it easier, hopefully, and
it will just be a relief, especially to businesses that
are in that area, because it's been a very trying

(32:05):
time for the Cross Lane's community with this problem absolutely
Cross Vegas, Across Vegas, that's right. I mean, it's it's
been very disruptive. There have been all kinds of problems
with it and the nature of the project. It's such
a congested area. I mean, the contractor has an extremely

(32:26):
difficult job. I mean, I've had several meetings with them,
and they were going over all the problems they're having
and and and they're very frustrated. And I'm very frustrated.
And and you know, I said to him, I wouldn't
have your job of managing this easy area to work in.
It's very difficult. I mean, it's just so congested and compact.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
All right, let's switch gears here for a moment. As
I said, the session is going to be starting in
a couple of weeks, once you get through Christmas and
and and so on and so on. It's a couple
of big legislative priorities for Randy Shanlin.

Speaker 14 (32:55):
Well, I think that the House Caucus has put out
a pretty get a list of priorities economic focused. When
I ran for office in originally in twenty twenty two,
one of my main reasons was the fact that I
looked at my high school yearbook one day and I thought,
you know, fifty percent of the folks that I graduated

(33:20):
with have left West Virginia. I mean, creating more jobs,
more a better and more balanced economy. I mean, all
of those are things that we need to bore down
on in this upcoming session and remain focused on that
and do everything we can for economic development.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
And I think you were one of the ones that
I saw the photograph of when when Speaker Hanshaw had
the precedent two weeks ago I guess or whatever, and
talked about that. Are you hopeful that that will that
the House that let me know, you can't speak for
the Senate, but are you hopeful that the House will
be able to maintain that that focus on just those things?

Speaker 14 (33:59):
Yes, I think that. I think having a goal, having
a purpose, having a plan is very important, and I
think that we will have our focus on those issues.
And of course, you know there's all sorts of things
that come up in the legislative session. I mean, one
thing that I'm personally going to work on is updating

(34:21):
the sex stortion statute. As you're probably aware, we have
that tragedy at Nitro High School with one of our students,
and when you think about how loosely the current law
is written in terms of the sex stortion statue, I mean,
I don't want to get too much into the details
of it because I'm still getting the bill crafted. Yeah,

(34:42):
but I think imposing some better definitions in our current
code and increasing the penalties for those who are involved
in that type of behavior is very important.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
I don't want to get too personal here, but is
you know, we talked about it from the outset. You
are a teacher at Nitra High scho Cool. How is
the school done in recovering from that from that young
student's passing.

Speaker 14 (35:05):
It's been it's been very challenging. It's really affected the
sophomore class, especially because that was the grade that he
was in. I didn't know him personally when I went
to high school with his father. Wonderful family, uh in
the Cross Planes community. The Bryce was a student that

(35:27):
was extremely well thought of, well liked, very popular, athletic.
I mean just he just checked all the boxes. And
it's been a very challenging time.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
And his family and I don't know them personally either, Andy,
but I know just what I have heard in the
news accounts or whatever. His family has wanted his story
out there. Yes, they they have been there, and there's
a couple of ways you can handle that story. If
you're a family and nobody knows what they would do
till they're in that situation. But the family he has
come out and said, look, we want to let our
we want to let our son's story serve was a

(36:00):
warning to other parents and grandparents and to get some laws.

Speaker 6 (36:03):
Change, and for that I commend them.

Speaker 14 (36:05):
Yes, absolutely, I mean there's been several national publications who
have who've ran with that story and helped to publicize it.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Before we let you go. Speaking of the future, it's
a future look like for Andy Shamlin.

Speaker 14 (36:19):
Future for me looks like running for reelection in the
House of Delegates in District fifty nine, which is the
Nitro Cross Slane Saint Aubans area. It'll be my third
term if I'm fortunate enough to be re elected, and
I'm looking forward to the challenge.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
All right, Andy, Sony's pleasure, I have you on the show.
Thanks a lot, delicate Andy Shamlin, Republican from the fifty
ninth have himself a great Christmas season, man.

Speaker 14 (36:42):
Thanks for everyone, and Merry Christmas and a happy New Year.

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These grandparents do the best they can, but when you
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Speaker 7 (41:02):
Agree with that.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
More Texas, everyone talks about wanting to focus mainly on
economic issues, but then the conversation avoids those issues and
proceeds to discuss sextortion of the young man who's passed away.
These issues are squarely social issues.

Speaker 6 (41:16):
So which is it?

Speaker 4 (41:17):
Are we focused on economics or social issues? Talking out
to both sides of our mouths and the same conversation.

Speaker 6 (41:23):
I don't get. It sounds to me like it's impossible
to avoid the social issues. Good point.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
I think if I had to say anything about that,
and I do appreciate the text, I would say that
when a need arises, you have to address it. With
this situation with sextortion and this student, that delegate and
teacher at night, you're high. Andy Shamlich just talked about
when a need arises, you have to address it, Okay,

(41:51):
I think, and this is this is me, not as
talk show hosts. This is me just as as taxpayer
in West Virginia would say, going out of your way
though for social issues, you know, I mean, how many
times are we going to talk about trans issues that
affects such a small percentage of the population.

Speaker 6 (42:09):
How many times are we going to talk about vaccines?

Speaker 19 (42:11):
How many?

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You know?

Speaker 6 (42:12):
That's I think that's more.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
That's where I am, and I'm only speaking to me, Okay,
that's that's kind of where I am, setting out on
a course that I'm going to right the wrongs without
taking in the fact that economy jobs should be at
the top of the list. Just just my opinion on

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(48:36):
a lot about economic development, which I like, also workforce
participation and infrastructure, so on and so forth. Now, as
we talked to the head that conversation earlier with Attorney
Rusty Webb and also Delegate Andy Shambler, if we can
just stick to those things and to the Texter's point
earlier when I said what I said about the social issues,

(48:58):
and I have said this, I'm not saying you don't
address what needs to be out there. I'm just saying
I'm not a big fan of going out and just
looking for things and for taking on things in West
Virginia that aren't issues here. That's where I kind of
have an issue with some of our legislators and some
of our legislative priorities. I mean, you addressed this sextortion thing.

(49:19):
It's got to be addressed. And I am not as
up to date on the law as what some people are,
but I can tell you West but based on a
conversation I was having with the Delicate Chamblain, there's there
are a lot of holes in that law. And kudos
again to the family of that young man who tragically
took his own life, the Nitro student and Andy Shamlain

(49:43):
Delicate Shambler, who is a teacher at Nitro, talked about
that a little bit earlier in the show and what
a tragedy it's been for not only that man's family,
but the school and his friends and and other family
members as well. But also big shout out to the
family for telling their story, going national with.

Speaker 6 (49:57):
It and saying, hey, this is an issue.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
So those things have to be addressed, Okay, because that's
a problem. That's a real problem that's happening not only
in West Virginia but across the country and across the world.

Speaker 6 (50:06):
It's got to be addressed.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
I'm just saying, I don't know that we want to
necessarily go out in kind of invent things or take
on issues that aren't West Virginia issues.

Speaker 6 (50:17):
Texas, Dave, did you see that Happy Day's Cafe in South.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Charleston will be closing their doors one final time on
New Year's Day. Yeah, I did see that. The TEXTA
goes on to say, so sad they have such great
menu options. I've never eaten there. I mean it always
looked good, and the menu people always told me about it.
TJ's over here telling me it's good I have. I've
never eaten there, but I guess I better hurry.

Speaker 6 (50:41):
Tex says, you're right.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
My relatives grew up in southern West Virginia, Southwest Virginia
and Pikeville, Kentucky, Abbington, Virginia, Bristol, taswell. All have grown
to really nice communities, while Logan Mingo McDowell counties have regressed.
Could it be our career politicians like the one you
just had on speaking about economics blah blah blah. Put
him back in the legislature. I would hardly refer to

(51:06):
Rusty Webb as a career politician. I mean he served
what I mean in terms of Rusty SERVI TJ. You
know or at the top of your head, he didn't.
He wasn't a career politics and Andy's and Delegate Shamblin
is he gets elected, this will be his third term
and it's a two year term. So I don't know
that I would refer to either one of them as
career politicians. I mean, they both have other careers too.

(51:26):
You know, Rusty's an attorney. Andy's a teacher, So a
couple of things.

Speaker 15 (51:30):
A guy that lived in West Virginia worked in eastern
Kentucky for a long time, spent a lot of time
in Pikeville. There is a marked difference once you cross
the tug.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Yeah, and you probably didn't get to hear the interview,
but that's what Rusty and I were talking about earlier.

Speaker 15 (51:43):
One of the reasons that that's happened is all the
businesses go to Kentucky. Why do they go to Kentucky?
Better tax structure, less regulated, It's easier to do business there.
So if you're in that area, you put your business
and people come over, they cross the river. I mean,
it's it's not rockets.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
That's the fact that you have a major what's become
a major university yep with Pikeville, and you have a
major medical center yep.

Speaker 6 (52:06):
With with Pipeful Medical Center. You have that going along
with it as well. That's Kentucky's only optometry school. By
the way in Pike, Phil that's you, Pike. There you go,
but Dave Island showing five Vedia.

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Speaker 4 (52:34):
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You can only hope to contain him. All right, give
me give me quick, five or ten?

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Bridget Lambert the Retailers Association talking movies on Christmas Day,
A lot of people go to the movies.

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All right, I will see you later today. Till then,
have fun and love somebody.

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