58. Charity Shop Woes.

Tim and Paul delve into the world of charity shop record shopping. Gareth casts his eye over the new vinyl. There's a quiz, listener letters and all your usual crate digging larks.

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Paul Field and Tim Scullion

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Paul Field

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Tim Scullion

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Episode Transcript

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We made this. Hello and welcometo weed By Records. I'm Paul Field,

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and as ever, I'm joined bymy lovely co host, mister Tim
Scully and Hello Tim. Hi Paul. How are you a bit warm?
Because We've got the windows closed fornoise reduction and I've got some cushions around
me as well to try and makeit less boomy, to make it more
of a zen lounge. Is itwarm in Serbia? Actually it's very overcast
and humid today, but it's goingto be hot later for a change.

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Do we do some housekeeping? Let'sjust just crack straight into it. Yes.
A big shout out to lovely supporterswho've brought us a coffee recently.
DJ Vinyl Phoebe says latest episode superenjoyable. Welcome back tour Meldall. Big
shout out to Couch Magbuie, whosays thank you for your advice and insights.

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Do we have advice and insights to? I don't think so, but
thank you. I don't think so. And I big thank you to Duncan
g Thanks also to Patrick Lydon,to Greg who wonders if the last episode
was perhaps the first show without adepeche mode mention. I think it probably
was. Shane Ewan says, greatto have you back. And Tom,

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who is that Tom of cheap Indievinyl fame? That's correct, Yes,
thank you Tom. Thanks everyone forsupporting us. You can do so.
You can sling us a couple ofquid because doing this podcast does actually cost
us money. You can find usat Ko Fi right for the first time
ever live on air. I'm goingto check what it is because I can

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never remember because we never get itright. Here we go. I'm typing
it in. I've tried we buyrecords. Nope, hang on, there's
an in type Ko dash Fi bythe way, Well, that'll be why
I'm not getting anywhere. So itis, of course Ko dash Fi dot
com forward slash, we buy records. Hurrah, Well done, Tim Paul.

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We've got some more housekeeping a littledo you know what? As we've
mentioned Depeche Mode, I did goand see I did cop over the border
to Croatia and see Depeche Mode inZagreb this month? Any good? Weirdly
okay, we turned up probably twentyfive minutes before Depeche with you on the
arena was absolutely completely full. Imean, Katherine just walked straight to the

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front. So how was that possible? Our entrance was like a front standing
area ticket. The way they funneledus in, we literally were dropped out
not that far from the front ofthe stage. Should we just walked forward,
turned left a bit whilea could lookthe band members in the eye.

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That's not happened in thirty years.I could tell you that for free.
Was that one of your best positionsfor a Depeche kick then? Ever?
Ever, the best position ever?Yea, so weird. I was like
completely thrown because when we went tosee them with you in London a few
years ago, it was good,but we were just you know, they

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were they were watching a screen.Yeah, they were medium sized dots in
the distance and you watched the screenand so the atmosphere was okay, But
I mean the problem was we weresurrounded by Depeche Mode fans. Yes,
I thought was a bit of anissue. Some more housekeeping, Paul,
We've both had famous people in theshop. Yes, so we both listeners.

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We both run record shops in oneof us in the south of England,
one of us in Belgrade in Serbia. Paul, you want to go
first, Well, I I hadmister John Spencer from the John Spencer Blues
Explosion, and I believe it washis lovely wife, who's I'm going to
regret say this, but I can'tremember her name. She's also a musician.
They were in a band together,I think some garage rock band from

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New York. Okay, she islovely, by the way, that's all
I'm going to say. It's actuallyit's the second time he's been in.
But he looked very confused because previouslyhe came to my other location. Right,
okay, but when when? Whenhe's not going to listen to this,
it doesn't matter. When he firstvisited, I was wearing a Mute

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T shirt and he could see therewas quite a lot of Mute stuff on
the walls, and he said,oh, do you work for Mute?
I said no, no, butI know paul Taylor and all sorry paul
A Taylor, and you know andand you're an insane super fan. Did
you say that of Mute? Here'sthe kicker. I at this point,
I still had no idea who hewas. Oh brilliant. And when I

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asked him and he told me,I was like, oh, do you
know what? I think? Weprobably have records from every single artist on
that label apart from him, oh, Paul. And when I asked him
if we could have a photo andjust just mainly to like to wind up
paul A Taylor, he said no. I think he was a little bit

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annoyed that I didn't know who hewas. I mean that surely. The
question is why the hell was JohnSpencer in Belgrade? And why did he
come into shop twice? He doesn'tlive in Belgrade, does he? No?
No, no, Anyway, hewas back this week and he said
he'd be back short because bodied somelou Reid records he wanted. So you
can't just see he was back thisweek. Why the fuck is he in

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Serbia? All I know is aproject. So he has confirmed there is
a project going on. And Ithink the last time he was here he
did a secret gig. It wasso secret he played across the road from
my house and I didn't know.I mean it probably wouldn't have been your

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cup of tea anyway, because itwouldn't have had enough repetitive beats in it.
No, but I would have gonealong. Now, let's see if
mine can beat John Spencer, whoI think is great, by the way,
I'm a big fan. I reallylove what I love by them.
I love Acme and Orange albums.I think they're both brilliant anyway, Yeah,

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Paul's pulling a confused face, butno, they're they're good. It's
good music. Check him out.We had that Neil Tenant from pet Shop
Boys in Paul, Oh, that'sin Top Trumps. That's that's a clear
winner. It's high, isn't it. It's you've got to say it's high.
Yeah, he bought some weird Apparentlyhe's not a big he doesn't really

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buy records. He'd buys CDs becausehis favorite thing is to buy CDs and
then enjoy them in the car.So he bought some weird esoteric soundtrack stuff.
I think one thing was a Trunkreissue on CD, and something else
was I think Roy Bud, Ithink. But he was really really lovely,

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and he was because we also sellcomics. He was quite excited to
tell us that in the late seventies, his first job out of university or
school or whatever was he went straightin as editor of Marvel Comics UK.
Did you know that? I didnot. I knew he was at Smash

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Hits, didn't know he was atMarvel Comics yet so yeah, before Smash
Hits he was the editor of MarvelComics UK. If you look at any
any UK Marvel from I think seventysix to seventy nine, and you look
on the third page, it willsay editor colon Neil Tenant. It is
that Neil Tenant. My first questionis, how's he still got a CD

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player in his car? If he'srelatively well off. So I like to
think he's now rolling around in anineteen ninety six Volvo Estate. Oh almost
certainly, yeah, and I bethe loves it. Yeah, But no,
he was. He was just hewas delightful, really friendly and warm
and it was just yet a pleasureto have him in the shop. And

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he let us take a little photoof him, but he said not in
a horrible way. He said,it's not for social media though, please,
so for our archives. We gota snap and he was lovely and
Neil come back soon, Paul,if you got any news. A couple

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of little nippets, Tim little snippets, so recently in the news Taylor Swift's
Speak Now Taylor's version was issued andone of the colors I think it's the
opra colored version. Some copies containedmusic by Cabaret Voltaire. I've heard a

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little bit about this, Yeah,I think one side is the cabs.
Yes, there was a young ladyon TikTok and her video went completely mad
and viral, which she put thisTaylor Swift album on an outcame Cabaret Voltaire
and freaked the shit out of her. Think, oh perfect, But my

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first thought was how many of themare there and how much are they going
for? Go on? Then?So well? I checked on discogs,
sixty five people claimed to have it, A couple of hundred wants it,
None have sold, And I checkedon eBay and whatever I typed in around
this album, No, no copieshave sold. So there are there aren't

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that many? Or I'm really confused. I expected to see. I did
see one copy offered, but itwasn't one hundred percent. The wording was
too vague for many people to committo buying. Yea, and what were
they asking for it? Six hundredand fifty? I mean, Taylor Swift's

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got a lot of hardcore fans.If only sixty five people on discogs claim
to have it, yeah, that'sthat's pretty low. And I don't necessarily
trust that all of those people actuallydo have it, because people use discogs
in weird ways, don't They nojudgment, but they do. M listeners.
If you've got a copy of TaylorSwift covering Cabaret Voltaire, which is

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what I'm going to choose to believethat it is. Yeah, and if
you do, how much will yousell it to Paul for some late,
late late news. Tim like Catherine. You know my partner loves Madonna and
she she got an email today sayingthe Madam X Theater show is coming to
Vinyl. Oh that terrible tour shedid in a small theater we went to

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where she turned up late. Theyput the curtain down on her head and
she screamed that Westminster Council were Nazis. Oh mad, and bearing in mind
we were in the cheap seats atabout three hundred quid, I was not
best pleased. Here's here's a littletip for your love. Turn up for
work on time. Oh dear.Anyway, it's coming to Vinyl so you

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can relive all that experience. Ithink we have a new a new price
point for a triple album, seventyfive pounds. Tim, just the standard
RP, not a special edition,not a well, it's on her on
the on the Madonna website. Itis the picture disc version. There is

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a standard version for fifty five poundson Amazon, I think slightly more on
her official website. These like picturedisc versions and stuff. If you Katherine
got the email from Dig which youwould sound dig Vinyl sounds just like an
online retailer, but it's not.It's owned by Warner Brothers. Mcdonna's side

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to Warner Brothers. Is it oneof them? One of those another one
of these bloody pretend independent record shops. Yeah, it's like the food deliveries
with their black kitchens, where it'sjust a warehouse on an industrial estate,
but it's called mister Wongs it is. It's exactly like that. And because
it's a way that they can theycan undercut or price match genuine independent record

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shops because the genuine ones have tobuy their stock from Warners and add their
markup, whereas these ones that areowned by Universal Warners Sony but look independent,
they don't have to do that thatmark up to make their profit,
so they can always win. Andalso they can funnel. For example,
you can't get the picture dis versionlineAmazon. You can only buy it from

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mcdonna's website or from dig Vinyl,both of which, of course is Warner
sneaky. A. It's not ideal, is it. This leads neatly in
to I've got some very local news. It's local and relevant only to Hastings.
But we had a big flood inHastings. I don't know, maybe

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I don't know, half a yearago or more. And HMV was one
of the shops that was affected bythis flood, and they closed down and
they said, you know, theyalways kind of said they'd reopen, but
they just never did. From anevery single other shop in the shopping center
reopened after about three weeks or amonth or two weeks or whatever. Two

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months, HMV still remain closed.They have finally reopened, Paul. So
there is now a big mainstream musicretailer back in town. And what that's
meant is an endless stream of friendsand regulars to our shop, coming in
or messaging us telling us, lookat this fucking price, look at this

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fucking price. What the heck iswrong with HMV? Look at this price.
So, for example, Metallica backcatalog albums, single disc I believe
around fifty quid whoa a reissue ofthe not very sort after David Bowie Ziggy
Star Dust film from the I guessit's a mid seventies that nobody really wants

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a double LP fifty five ninety ninefor a double LP reissue, So well
done, HMV. You've made ourprices look even better, So thank you
for that. Tim. Would youlike to get an update on my Japanese

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virtual shopping experience? Yes, verymuch, because this is something that we're
If it seems to have worked out, we're super keen to jump on your
coattails and do it ourselves. Soyeah, how did it go? Listeners?
If you don't know, Paul did. This was a kind of beta
tester of this new service where recordshops and high rollers can be connected to

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a live stream from someone's face ina record shop in a different country and
they buy records on your behalf andthey flicked through the racks and you say
yes, no, no, yes, yes, no, maybe, and
Paul, they've arrived, They arrived. I it's slightly more complicated here.
So if you order something to theUK and it comes by FedEx or whatever,

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they deal with the paperwork. You'llget a customs bill will be a
twelve pound fifty charge and you payit and you get your goods. Here
it's slightly more complicated, so Idon't want to put anyone off using it.
But there were eight pages of separatedocuments and a customs agent eight pages,
eight pages, and something's had tobe certified. It's it's long and

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complicated and stupid. But there's justan added layer of bureaucracy here. But
anyway, we're well done for doingit. Oh it was. I was
like at one point, I waslike, nah, because every time I
submitted it, there's a thing here. You'll always be missing one piece of
paper. But that's very peculiar toSerbia. Okay, and you have now

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received the Japanese records. Yes.And the thing is, when I was
buying them, I set out witha kind of I sat the guy like
a wish list. I was lookingfor some eighty stuff, some pop stuff,
maybe some dance bits. And ashe was going around a few stores,
I honed in on different things thatI wasn't really looking for originally,

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soundtracks in particular, something well thething is Paul. That is a classic
example of the magic, even ifit's virtual, yes, of a real
of a real record shop, yes, and obviously having a lot of knowledge
about prices when there's a big disconnect, and some of the disconnects I didn't
even know. I didn't know.I wasn't looking up the price of every

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record he was buying for me.I was just okay, that's that sounds
reasonable. Things like for example,troll the Trolls soundtrack, I think it
was a five. Really, yeah, when I looked on discogs, the
average selling price is actually thirty fivepounds. Flipping Eck the Alien soundtrack from
nineteen seventy nine. It was missingthe Obbie, okay it was I think

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it was twelve or thirteen pounds.I actually sold it this week for seventy
five pounds And was that a fairprice judging from you know, the kind
of international Yeah. I mean you'vegot to remember where we are. It's
nightmare to import anything at the bestof times. So I don't particularly go
on the discogs prices for Japanese stock. You have to factor in getting it

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here what you've paid for it.There are many other factors, and it's
based on the whole box of stockas well, So I treat them slightly
differently, I would say, rightlyor wrongly. There is a bit of
a magic power to Japanese pressings,yes, and a kind of status,
and so you could get there couldbe any other important thing. Let's say,
if you know, if we gota box of you know, a

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bag of records come in and therewas some American pressings, Greek, Dutch,
Canadian, the jap if there wasa Japanese pressing in there, it's
more likely to get a little premiumput on it because it's a Japanese pressing.
Correct. Yeah, so I getI think I think most people would
get that. Yeah. So Ibought three three WAM albums. They all

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sold within forty eight hours. Noway, really, Well, the thing
is you have to remember the otherthing with those Japanese records. They are
perfect. They look like they've justcome out of the factory. Yeah,
it does tend to be true.Yeah, And I thought, can I
get away with charging twenty two poundsfifty for a Wham album? Turns out
yes you can because a reissue locallyis thirty pounds. So you could get

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a and as new original from Japanfor cheaper. Actually, people think that's
a good deal. And turns outthey did think it was a good deal
because I sold them all immediately.Oh well done, Paul. So that
so it sounds like you're happy,very happy. The only annoyance for me
is the whole customs po Lava,which, as I say, is much
easier for pretty much any other countryapart from here. And do you know

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if the service has launched officially yetor is it still? Yeah? I
think you can you can use it. I did. I did speak to
the guy runs it yesterday actually,and because I'd mentioned that you were,
you were interested. So I'm goingto pass on your details and perhaps you
can. You can give it totry and see how you get on,
and then maybe after I've done it, we'll finally tell the listeners what it's

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called. No, we did puta post on our Twitter feed because we
had a few people who were curious. You mean our ex feed? No,
that Twitter feed him. I'm notcalling you. It sounds like a
sex website now, Paul. We'vehad a letter from Steve Fenton. You

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may remember last time we heard fromSimon G who had an amazing experience and
a record fair. Steve reckons hecan if not beat that anecdote, then
he's got a decent match for it, he thinks, and I'm inclined to
agree. Shall I do the honors? Paul? Always please? Steve writes
high Both, following up from SimonGE's odd record fair seller from the last

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episode, how about this. Iwas on holiday last week in a fairly
posh seaside resort. There was arecord fair and a local art sale in
a hall just off the high street, so I popped in two sellers with
quite a range of stock, fromexpensive collectibles to cheap DVDs and a shiny

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plastic record player for sixty quid.I was digging through the most promising the
ten pounds each or three for twentyquid crates. Alarm bells rang when I
noticed there were three copies of NoParley for a ten each. I soon
had in my hands a Roxy MusicLive mini album and a couple of LPs,

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none of which were worth a fiveror each, to be honest,
but I was on holiday and theninety nine ice cream I'd just had cost
me two pound fifty, so Iwas feeling relaxed about it all fair enough.
Another crate digger was at the counterand paid ninety five pounds each for
two pet Shot Boys Promo twelve inchsingles. He was very happy with his

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purchases. I saw these years agofor fifty quid, and I wish I'd
bought them. Then he said,his wife bought a small watercolor, and
here is Paul. Once he'd leftthe hall, one of the sellers said
loudly to the other, what atwat. He's just paid me nearly two

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hundred quid for a load of plasticeighties crap and his wife paid twenty quid
for a picture that I wouldn't hangin my bog. I put down the
records in the wrong crate and left, who's the twat? Now? Wow?
Oh my god. I mean I'veI've kind of internally thought when customers

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have bought what I thought to bea load of crap, like wow,
I can't believe someone's bought that,but to do it out loud and in
a very nasty and vicious way.There's one thing about running a record shop,
tim is it's you have to getIt has to be a broad church
and you can't judge anyone on anything. I mean, I have to bite

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my tongue if I sell Morrissy orOasis, but I do it with a
smile on my face. Yeah,exactly right, Oh my goodness. I
mean I think this needs to hopefullybe an ongoing listener segment of terrible,
insane, rude experiences with record sellers. I mean, we've had a few
in the past, but I dolove it. So listeners, if if

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you think you can match these tworecent stories of ludicrously rude, horrible record
dealers, then please do get intouch. You can find us on email.
The address is we buy Records podat gmail dot com. So please
do get in touch. It's timefor lovely Gareth. Oh hi, Gareth,

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take it away right, Let's beginwith the new releases then. The
Lilac Time is Stephen Duffy's band thatsome people be aware of, and his
solo stuff got a bit of afresh light upon it where Needle Mythology reusuled
one of his albums recently, buthis band has continued to issue albums from
time to time. Their latest DancedTill All the Stars Come Down, and
it was released at the end ofJuly, and it really is beautiful.

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You know. He's been sort ofdelicately talking up as one of his favorite
records, and a number of peoplehave been pointing out that is one of
their one of their finest, Ithink, and it's quite unusual for BAM
to achieve that at this stage oftheir career. There are some beautiful songs
on it. That's track called YourVermillion Cliffs are kind of acoustic meditation on
getting old and still making sure thatyou live a good life. It finishes
with these lines can't promise your rainbow. All I can say is this,

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we can leave tomorrow for Your VermillionCliffs. And it really is a beautiful
record. If you like Richard Hawleyand his most sort of emotive and human
then it will tick those boxes.If you want somebody who can really get
inside emotions and feelings and what itis to be human. And this record's
fantastic. It's a check pressing andlargely silent. The artwork's absolutely gorgeous,
and it's just over tiny quid,which, let's face it, is a

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good thing in this day and age. And the sound stage is fantastic,
which you need for something that's sofull of acoustic instrumentation. But yeah,
if you've been considering that one definitelyworth a punt and it won't surprise you
to find that I'm going to bepositive about the new album by Blur,
and I was braced to the factthat it might be a terrible pressing,
given that they decided to do aboutforty seven thousand different variants. There's black,
there's red, there's silver, there'sblue. There's a zoetrip picture this,

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but that's sold out. There's asmoky black and clear deluxe edition as
well. Oh there's so many.But incredibly it's still pressed optimal, so
it actually sounds very very good.Now, first things first, the album
itself is brilliant. If you'd liketo read more on that that. I
think we mentioned my substack last time. Catching It also worth pointing out that
that album, it's a beautifully shortit's very very emotional. It's an album
I think really suits you if you'vebeen with Blur for a long time,

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because it explains some aspects of thejourney I think, and there's a lot
there about Damon being brokenhearted, beautifullyrics, the band together. It's just
fantastic. I don't get people sayingit sounds like a Damon solo album at
all. Listen to Grahame's guitar workBarbaric on there is I think probably one
of their best songs of all time, and the mastering is solid on the
digital, but I would say somewhatcrunch. However, if you want to
hear it properly, get the vinylcar And I have genuinely compared the CD,

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the digital streaming, and the blueray audio with the vinyl, because
I have no life. Having comparedall of those different things, I would
say the vinyl sounds fantastic. Inparticular, if you know the song Saint
Charles Square the drumming on that,there's two versions of Dave's drumming on there.
Put that on the vinyl, turnthe volume up and it sounds tremendous.
So if you've been considering the Balladof Darren the new from Blur and
you're pretty safe with I would imagineany vinyl copy that you happen to chance

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upon. PJ. Harvey was aname we used to mention an awful lot
on here about a year ago whenthe reissue program was going and she's finally
released a new album, I Insidethe Old Year Dying, and she received
an awfu lot of praise. Quiterightly from the independent record shop community.
And because there's only one vinyl edition, it's black, it's in a gatefold.
It costs just over twenty quid.Honestly, if we need an ambassador

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for vinyl in this day and age, forget all these other people, Let's
have PJ. Harvey, because itwould seems she fully understands what this is
about. It is an optimal pressingthat sounds fantastic, black vinyl gatefold,
really nicely dumb. Some of thesongs are based on the poetry that she
published recently and a collection called Allof Them that came with a kind of
a guide to some of the languagethat she was using. There was a
glossary because she was using a numberof archaic words as part of that,

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and so that continues in the lyricsof the songs. And that said,
one of the tracks that most sortof struck me was the opening song,
Beautiful Prayer at the Gate, whichis largely built around a doo doo doo
doo doo kind of refrain. Butthat in itself is just magical to hear.
Harvey's voice is fantastic. Co producerFlood is involved again and Jason Mitchell
Loud has done the vinyl cut andit's a relatively quiet album but with lots

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of interesting things going on the soundstage, so it needed a good cut.
And the pressing from Optimal is largelyquiet and a couple of people have
had noisy ones, but once they'veswapped it they seem to have got a
quiet one again and it really doessound like a three D sound stage.
So yeah, new PJ. Harveyalbum well worth a listen at. Tony
Allen left us a few years backduring the COVID pandemic, a remarkable afrobeat

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drummer who's done some incredible things inrecent years, never stopped working right the
way through to the end, andin twenty eighteen he worked with Adrian Young,
part of the Jazz Is Dead collective, and their recordings have been put
out on vinyl and pressed up Palaceapparently according to the label. I have
to say the vinyl did not looklike a palace pressing these things and comes

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in a gorgeous die cut sleeve.There's like an extra sleeve outside the sleeve
that's got Jazz is Dead cut out. It's one of those things where I
think you just have to see itand appreciate it and probably end up buying
it because of that, and it'sglorious. It's a fantastic album, really
good collaborative work. He always seemedat his best when he found people that
were inspiring him as much as hewas inspiring them. Some great tracks on
there if you want a sense ofwhat you're getting. No Beginning is a

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great example where Tony Allen's gradually buildsthe rhythm up, and there's a track
Don't Believe the Dancers where Alan justlocks into the groove in the way he
did so many times over the years, and then the band that's assembled around
him just seemed to rise to thechallenge really really good. And finally,
this one is coming out in acouple of weeks times, so it's an
early September release, but honestly it'sone for pre orders and people seem to

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like these lower, lower key releasesthat we mentioned on here. Swansey Sound,
which was the name of an oldradio station at Swansey Sound are a
band comprising of well a number ofindividuals, but it's a double header between
a media fletcher from the indie bandHeavenly and Hugh Williams from their Flipping Poo
Sticks. A legendary Welsh indie bandthat will mean something to a few people,

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a great, great band, andthey have combined a Swansea sound and
twentieth Century is their new album.It's out on Skepwax, who've been doing
some really interesting things recently. It'sa g Z pressing, but my copy
absolutely quiet, gave it clean,sounded great, great mastering. Now what
is this Well, it's short storiestold fabulously via a kind of male and
female doubleheader atop some very infectious indiejangle. It's great fun. There's loads

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of dynamic going on between the twocharacters in many of the songs. The
lyrics are witty, they are aserbic and there's lots of criticism of the
aspect of the twentieth century that wekind of nostalgically remember incorrectly and you know,
long for this different kind of time, and great stories about the kind
of loneliness of modern life, arelationship that never quite happens between a person

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ordering an album on an online storeand the person packing it for them at
the other end. There's some reallygreat songs on this. It's great fun.
It's the sort of thing you willwant as the Evening Shorten and the
Skies Darken at Swansea Sound twentieth century. And again we've been mentioning this a
lot, this time twenty one quidyes please, oh lovely? So who's
missing out on their dinner because they'resat on the naughty step? Gareth.

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It's another one of those slightly naughtysteps this month. And Wham the fantastic
documentary that appeared on Netflix recently.If you've not seen it yet, go
and see it. And to goalongside that, understandably, the label decided
to go for a nice cash incompilation called Echoes from the Edge of Heaven.
There's an LP set, there's adeluxe seven inch box with replicas and
CDs, there's a cassette version,all sorts of you know, as you

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would expect. And I sampled thestraightforward two LP black vinyl edition pressed at
GEZ not the quietest Geez pressing i'dencountered, which you know, I sort
of feel like, if you're goingto make a big fuss out of this
is a big kind of celebratory event, you probably want to properly. Lots
of different variants on the LP whichperhaps explains it. The mastering's a bit
odd. People that are good wereinvolved in this process, so that confuses

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me even more. But it soundsa bit thin. It doesn't sound it's
especially consistent. It doesn't reach particularlyout of the speakers. You know,
these are big, bombastic eighties popsongs that people love, and actually,
if you throw on those eighties LPs, they sound great. You can crank
them right up. They might beas thin as a piece of paper,
but they will sound decent and they'regreat selling albums. It just felt a

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bit sad, And then on topof that, there was a card tucked
inside the sleeve saying, unfortunately,due to a printing error, a lot
of the track listing numbers are wrongon the back of the gate fault.
We had the chance to pulp theseand make them all again, but in
the interest of protecting the planet,we decided not to do. And of
course I totally agree with that secondbit, like don't go wasting all the
but honestly, proofreading, I meanwe're not talking anything. You know,

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every soften you'll get a transposed letteron a track list and that's a bit
rubbish, but it happens. Butwhen you look on the back and you've
got track one, one, oneor whatever it might be in a list
on a side of an album.It's one of the things that do happen
and sure enough, Yeah, maybeyou didn't want to reprocess it, but
let's be honest. This is meantto be a big commemorative thing for one
of the greatest artists of all timewhen he was part of his formative band

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Wham. This documentary is a bigevent this year and this is supposed to
be a celebration of their incredible music. John weber Air has been involved in
the mastering. Like I said,I'm not quite sure what happened to the
sound because it didn't really win meover. There's bits that are okay,
but when it's a noisy pressing,the artwork's wrong, the sound's not great,
and you're paying thirty odd quid.Really, I just I don't get

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it. Listeners, have you comeacross any albums that have been let loose
onto the public with glaring air errors, Because recently I got a Lady Gaga
album from the distributor. Ninety percentof the artwork is missing. It's just
a white cover with four letters onthe front, no explanation. These are

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fine, nobody will notice. Wow, unbelievable that they didn't withdraw them.
Just I kindly forget my head aroundit is this where we're at. They're
just going to doesn't matter if there'sa mistake, the repress is going to
take too long. It's going soyou think you'd be extra care for something,
your home printer and need's a headclean. But it's happened in aware
house. Some they've not spotted it, right, Gareth, are there any

(33:22):
reissues that I Summi's after our hardmoney? Come on? Oh? Yes,
well one that a you know,a big, big, big demand
for the Lush albums. In twentysixteen, there was a box set called
Oregarmy, which went alongside a fantasticCD set called Chorus. The Oregomy box
set was for Record Store Day andit had the three main albums plus two
compilations tucked inside, all on colorvinyl, pressed, Jeezy a little bit

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noisy. Mastering was all right,priced a round one hundred pounds, knocked
around a bit longer than Record StoreDay, which surprised a few people.
Came in a weird fold out pizzabox, still available to buy it slightly
inflated, but not massive prices,but people wanted things to be a little
bit better. A couple of monthto Go for a D announced that the
three main albums would be getting afresh outing at the end of the summer.

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They are pressed at Geez again.But I have to say they are
good quality pressings. They are slightlythinner, they are clear vinyl, the
ones that I sampled, which seemsto be what indie stores are stocking more
of rather than the standard black,and they clean up nicely. They've clearly
taken care, They've checked the testpressings. Kevin van Bergen at Curve Pusher
has done the remastering and the cutsfor these from the original analog tapes,

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so they've done it properly. Youknow, they've gone back through the process
and I think the art will lookspretty good. Inevitably, there will be
people online saying, I think there'sa granular detail incorrect about the orange on
the reverse of this. And actually, you know, when I held them
alongside each other, I had anoriginal of Spooky, I had the twenty
sixteen, and I had the twentytwenty three, and I sat there for
a couple of minutes until I lostthe will to live double checking them all,

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and to be honest with you,I didn't see a huge difference.
I think the twenty sixteens are alittle gray near by comparison, twenty twenty
three looked pretty good, so interms of what they actually sound like,
which imagine is most people's pressing questionfor spooky. Like I said, I
was able to deliver a Poky's Minecut to the original MPO when it first
came out at the start of thenineties, so on that. Then we
did the twenty sixteen, then wedid the twenty twenty three. I have

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to say the beguiling drum sounds ofsome of those songs are best on the
nineteen ninety one disc. However,as was the tendency at the time because
it was the kind of shoegaze movementand so on and so forth. A
lot of the mid range is actuallyquite shrill because it's pushed up towards the
highs, and so the drums soundbetter on the ninety one, but the
mid range not so great. Twentysixteen as a much heftier bottom end,
as was the trend at the time, but I don't think it necessarily reached

(35:30):
out the speakers. Particularly the newremaster I think is an interesting mix of
the two, and actually of thethree albums, that's the one that I
was particularly impressed with. I thoughtthat one they seemed to have thought,
well, what was wrong last time? What could be improved about the original?
The vocals have a really decent rangeto them as well. Mid range
textures are really nuanced and detail.I honestly, I think the first one

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is a particular triumph for split fromninety four. I couldn't really hear much
difference. I mean, it mightjust be them getting old, but going
between the twenty sixteen twenty twenty three, yeah, I mean there's marginally more
sound stage I think on the twentytwenty three, and it's a bit less
boosted on the base, but it'sfine. I suspect for a lot of
people buying these, they didn't spendone hundred odd quid on that colored vinyl

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box set, so you're going tobe very happy. I would imagine if
finally Love Life, the nineteen ninetysix album, when they basically went well,
if you can do britpop, wecan do britpop two. If we
want to sell a few records,so let's do it, and they delivered
an album with great singles like LadyKillers five hundred and single Girl and Again.
To me, I think the twentysixteen cut is too bassy. I

(36:30):
think a bit too sort of bottomend and top end are not really thinking
about the mid range, which Ithink is a bit of an issue because
I think the mid range is wherea lot of heart comes from in music.
The new version is much more appealingto the list, and I think
it reached out to the room moreand doesn't fatigue the years in a way
I think the twenty sixteen set doeswhen you've been going back and forth a
little bit. So I mean,honestly, if you're after all three purchase
without fear. If you want totry one, I'd go with Spooky.

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Next up Supergrass. We have talkedabout these reissues as they've been coming out.
Some people remember a couple of yearsback when we talk about the in
It for the Money reissue, whichwas frankly appalling. Then we talked about
the self titled reissue which came next, which they got a bit better.
I think they genuinely were stung bythe criticism of the previous one, not
just mine, I should say,lots of people's and but last time around

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the self title was okay, nowwe're up to life on other planets.
It's Gez again, who would usedfor the self titled pressing? It's pretty
quiet across the main disc. Thereare two versions. If you just want
the album, you can get astandard reissue for twenty three quid. If
you'd like a inverted Colors gatefold witha bonus ten inch mini album of live
tracks on black and green vinyl,and then that is available for thirty two

(37:35):
pounds. So again you've got thechoice, and if you're a super fan,
I suspect you want the latter.It's a little better again in some
respects, I would say that thebase is a bit more nuanced than they've
been on the previous ones. Butwhen you put on the original next to
it, when you put the originalon, you feel it bodily. And
there are several tracks on that albumthat when they kick in, it's like
being you know, it's not quiteas much as moving as we talked about

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on the previous album, but thereare several tracks where the bass and the
drums together is huge, and Idon't think it quite gets that, but
it's a pretty decent job. Thebonus disc is great. There's some lovely
live recordings on there for people whofancy that sort of thing. There's a
great extra booklet which features a verydetailed sleeve note by Mark Radcliffe. Actually
he was a big fan of thealbum when it came out, and so
he talks his way through the experiencesfor those songs. You get loads of

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photos of the original single releases,so you know, if you're going to
do archive reissues, if you're goingto go back to that period and make
something for the fans who probably havealready spent quite a lot buying an original
at some point, then chucking ina mini album of live stuff. Having
a decent booklet with a sleeve note, you know they're getting the hang of
it. It's a bit of ashame it's taken them this long, but
they are getting there. So ifyou fancy at two versions available, fun

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Boy three, part of Terry Hall'swonderful legacy, arguably don't get as much
attention as other aspects of what heworked on, and obviously tragic news about
his death just before Christmas last year, this reissue project was in the works
at the time, and naturally it'sbeen slowed down as a consequence of that.
There is a three CD DVD setthat does their entire career. So

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if you want everything bits bol's remixes, DVD of footage, all that kind
of stuff. If you're a bigfan, you probably want that. But
if you fancy the two albums onvinyl, Chrystalists have done a very very
good job, so the self titledfirst album and the second album, Waiting
self titled Out of Red Sleeves.Of course it's on red vinyl, Waiting
at a blue sleeves. Of courseit's on blue vinyl. But you know,
people like these things pressed at thevinyl factory and really really good pressings,

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very quiet, great sound stage,lovely kind of based response on these
which is always going to be important, particularly on that very percussive first album.
You may already know that when yougot things like the Lunatics taken over
the asylent Tunnel of love. Ofcourse ain't what you do, it's the
way that you do it, featuringBanana Rama and there are some really really
great songs across these albums, andAlchema Air have been involved as Chrysalis tend

(39:45):
to do with their vinyl reissues,and then Waiting was of course produced by
David Burns. It's got a verydifferent kind of sound to it, but
still some excellent songwriting. So funBoy three. If you've not explored them
before, now's a good time todo it. These LPs are out there
at twenty five quid with you know, very very decent manufacturing, good sleeve
reproduction and excellent sound. On thesubject of sort of classic artists getting reissued,

(40:07):
Proper's partnership with Universal has continued doingfolk albums. They've done a load
of Fairport Convention this month. They'vealso been looking at the John Martin catalog.
The Fairport Convention albums are a strangething in the sense that for ages
you couldn't get old of them anywhere, and then fairly recently people have started
doing different versions all over the place. For example, just earlier this year,
Unhalf Bricking was done by one labelin Spain. It's been done by

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Proper as well. There's so manyout there. There was a pretty decent
twenty seventeen version that people will have. Proper get the mastering pretty good.
Generally. They're also really obsessive aboutreplicating the original sleeve, so you get
if there was a little detail onan inner sleeve, it's there. If
it was gloss on the front andmatt on the back, it will be
like that when you get the replica. So those things are nice. They're
not always the highest quality scams.As we've talked about before. These are

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all pressed attacked in Poland, whichwe've mentioned previously. They're either good or
their noise. There isn't really muchmiddle ground. And what seems to be
the case is if you get agood one, you've got a good one,
and if you if you're unlucky,you've had it. And so what
I've found is some of them soundgreat. Someone just don't. Of the
three, the debut sounded pretty good. It's fairly quiet. Legion Leaf was

(41:15):
slightly off center. What we've doneon holidays sounded pretty good. The mastering
is solid. I compare them someearly copies, and to be honest,
the early copies sounded an awful lotbetter, but they were they were pretty
good. If you get quiet ones, I think you'll probably be happy.
They're sort of twenty four twenty fivequid. If you're in the market for
them. They're not essential and they'reokay. Same is probably true of those
John Martin ones as well. Ithought that, you know, some of

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them sounded very good, others area bit noisy, and you know,
from my perspective, if you're goingto do really detailed replicas of the artwork,
then make sure the vinyl inside livesup to the building. Gareth,
I've spent all my money on bills, food and rent. I've got nothing
left, but thankfully I've stolen atwenty five quid at my grandmother's purse.
What am I spending it on?Unfortunately, you're going to hate me because

(41:58):
my pick of the pops is severalalbums and there's a catalog reissue of Lewis
Taylor by b with Records and acouple of years back, I think we
mentioned the debut album, Getting andOuting as a two LP, having been
a single LP before. This incrediblesoulful there's a kind of folk country background
to it as well, but it'smainly about this wonderful, slightly electronic soul
sound which he evolved over a numberof years, and his catalog and the

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Universal quickly lost interest. Then hestarted putting stuff out himself. He never
had the recognition he deserves. Thatfirst album was rightfully lauded for being done.
But b With who many of youwill know, for their kind of
library records that they reissue as welllived and loads of great stuff. Their
pressings are always superb use record industryin the Netherlands, they double check everything,
polylined in as all this kind ofstuff. You can trust them totally.

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But Lewis Taylor, honestly, there'ssomething there's kind of like he wanted
to sound like Prince when Prince didn'twant to sound like Prince, so that
there's some really smooth, wonderful soulon there. Lewis two, which was
the official follow up to that firstone, there's got a fabulous cover of
Jeff Buckley's Everybody Here Wants You.It's got some superb soulful stuff like My
Aching Heart and Satisfied. I thinkit sounds better than the original mastering by

(43:05):
some distance. It's big, it'sopen, it's got a great bottom end,
but it's not at all heavy inthat respect. So whatever your kind
of soulful interest, whatever your kindof leanings in terms of pop rock,
soul, all that kind of stuff, there's a Lewis Taylor album for you.
Honestly, Lewis Taylor, whether it'stwo Stone, one Stone, two
Numb, they are great, greatrecords, be with other ones to look
at and check their website for afew more details, or to sample it

(43:27):
on streaming. If he's new toyou, get ready to meet one of
your new favorite artists. Another insightfuldata blast there from Gareth from Clash magazine.
Thank you brother, Speak to youagain soon. Thank you so much,
Gareth, you're alleged. Well,can we have a quick Tims and
it dont corner? Oh yes,please, Tims and Coner, It's only

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a quickie. Paul. A womancame into the shop last week and was
interested in a record that we hadat seven pounds, but Paul, she
didn't buy it. No, whatwas it? The reason why I should?
Well, the reason why shouldn't buyit? I don't even remember.
The reason why she didn't buy itwas because she spotted the original mid eighties
price sticker on it right, whichsaid forty nine, and she Undernard and

(44:20):
Paul she said, oh no,I'm not going to buy it. It's
just a bit galling to pay sevenquid when it was originally forty nine.
P oh galling. She found ittoo galling. Thankfully she didn't run to
Google Maps and leave you a reviewand say how galling the experience was.
She was actually very She was actuallynice as well. It was just oh

(44:45):
no, oh no, do youknow what, it's just it's too galling.
It's too galling to pay seven quidwhen it was only forty nine do
you know what? Talking to Google? I had a guy this week who
came in the shop. There wasthe guy I told you about. He'd
come all the way from it Italy. Yes, he bought a lovely stack
of records. I gave him adiscount. I helped him like he wanted
some information about where the markets were. And you're not going to say he

(45:07):
gave you three stars or something.It gave me four stars, all glowing.
And at the end he said,maybe the prices were a bit steep.
And do you know there was onerecord he wanted and do you know
what he thought was priced too steep? Go on an Italian No, an

(45:29):
Italian new order, twelve inch andhe'd come from Italy. He'd come from
Italy. I had it at twentyfive euros near Mint and on discogs.
He looked at the price and itwas twenty euros in Italy, in Italy
as well in Italy. Man washe nice? Completely normal, lovely,

(45:50):
took his number. I've helped himwith stuff in the city. I mean,
I couldn't have been any more pleasant. And he marked me down for
having it an Italian record slightly moreexpensive in Italy. Oh, no record
people a Tim record. People areinsane and we love them. We love
them, but they are insane.Paul. Yes, Tim. We opened

(46:20):
a can of worms on Elon Musk'sTwitter a few weeks ago. Now we
had we had a lovely lovely Wehad a lovely email about from a new
volunteer at a charity shop who wasgoing to start pricing Vinyl had listened to
the show to get some tips,and you thought you would be a great
opportunity to put that question to ourlovely listeners. Oh boy, did they

(46:45):
respond. They did so. Shebasically said, I want to get it
right. I'm you know, we'vegot I'm doing records in a charity shop
and I want to get it right. Help and we're here for that,
Tim, We are here for that. So we took to Twitter and we
asked what do charity shops get wrongor right about selling records? What could
they do better? And what areyour charity shop turn offs? And we

(47:09):
had a flurry, a deluge,So good friend of the show, Andy
av A V Systems PS, thankyou Andy for sending me those charity shops
CHARDA records. They will go lovelyin the store. UK price two pounds,
bell grade price twenty two pounds fifty. The usual expert volunteer pricing I

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one that can look at eBay buthas no idea that listed and sold are
two very different figures. So thiscame up a lot, Yes, a
lot boxes on floor price stickers theywrite on after sticking. Oh they didn't
sell, Yeah, because you've overpricedthem. You do get this a lot
and let's can we just deal withthis at the outset. Yeah, these

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are volunteers for the most part,and they have you know, if you're
volunteering your time. I have nothingbut admiration for anyone who does doubt.
I think it's absolute, credibly,you know, the most important thing you
can give anyone isn't money. It'stime, also money, also money.
However, the most common confusion wherepeople look up records is they'll find they'll

(48:17):
order stuff by highest price on eBayone idiot who's selling Whitney Houston for one
hundred pounds and think, oh,yep, just some basic training for completed
listings. Yeah. Yeah, it'sthe simplest thing. Scrolled down, click
on completed listings, and not evensold listings, but completed listings, because
it's very important to see all theones that failed to sell at the price

(48:43):
they were put at, because evenwith sold, some lucky person might have
sold one for a tenor and thenyou see all the other unsold ones at
four quid. Yeah, exactly,you know, But yeah, I think
that's a brilliant point. Actually,that's whether and he makes about price stickers
that are written on after sticking thesticker. So even though you've beautifully peeled

(49:07):
the sticker off, you've got areally harsh Biro indentation of pound sign two
zero zero whatever we've dot in themiddle. I don't pay two hundred quid
and charity shots records. That's areally good point, and I've sort of
noticed it time and again, butnever really there are so many other things
going on that's not really registered.Yeah, but actually it's well annoying.

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You know, if you're going toput the stick on and put the price
on, write it with a softpen so you don't gouge the price into
the cover. Thank you, dy, Vince Williams says. And this is
I mean, I don't know ifyou've ever experienced this, Paul, but
holy heck, Vince says, sortingthrough the dregs in a box and then
seeing a volunteer come out from theback with a box of great records that

(49:53):
they've just sorted through, which theythen pay a pound each four. I
don't think I've ever seen that happenin front of me, but it's very
evident certain shops do do that.Yeah, oh, we've got a bloke
who does the records. Yeah he'syeah, it's really good. But he
buys a lot of them as well. But yeah, he's really good.

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Tor Melville says records are rarely categorizedor organized properly. Can be part of
the fun too, pulling out anoccasional gem amongst all the James Last and
Valve Dounikin. I mean, I'venever really because typically they don't have that
many records. Some of the specialistox fan shops do, but they tend
to have categories. Your average recordshop, average charity shop. I'm happy

(50:38):
to see three crates on the floor. It doesn't take more than a couple
of minutes to flick through them.Same, totally same. I do not
expect or particularly want charity shops tooverly organize their records unless they've managed to
get amazing stuff and they're expensive,in which case I can see the slight
point. But yeah, well,now, so what this ties into?

(51:01):
Vinyl car booty who says, notunderstanding that no one wants those brass band
valdunkn Vera Lynn LPs, no matterthe price. Dump them. Yes,
my caveat to that would be onlydump them if you happen to have a

(51:22):
volunteer in looking at records who really, really, really really knows their stuff
and can with one hundred percent confidencedump these records, because otherwise they would
also dump Voodoo Party by James LastAnd do you know what I mean,
It's a sacrifice I prepared to taketim if I don't see twenty copies of

(51:43):
the World of Mantivani. Oh,that's actually kind of a good point.
War blimey, listeners, what doyou think is it worth the risk of
dumping one good record to not haveto sift through five hundred world of Mantivani
and their ilk. I don't know, I don't know. Paul I Wilson
writes ten quid for a Michael Boltonalbum, not that I want one.

(52:06):
One hundred and twenty five quid fora seventies reissue of Pepper. Yeah,
Oxfam and the British Heart Foundation area joke. God those who prizes them,
but they don't know what they're doing. Do you even want to sell
stuff? Again? This is uneducatedand ill informed but well intentioned volunteers.
Yeah, I know. The cynicin me sometimes wonders if some volunteers,

(52:31):
and if you're a volunteer at aJerry shop, I'm sure I'm not talking
about you, but could there bea bit of a genius move where they
where they come out from the backand put some up on the wall.
Look, this one's fifty quid,this one's one hundred and twenty five quid.
So the job that I'm doing foryou is value, you know,

(52:52):
is worth it because I'm finding thesegems for you. Oh and I'll take
this pile here for me, Butthey're only worth a quid each, but
I'll buy them. Do you seewhat it means? So it looks like
you're finding expensive gems for the charityand showcasing them in the shop, But
what you're really doing is overpricing middlingstuff and buying the good stuff yourself for

(53:15):
nothing. It's just an awful cynicalidea, but could be true anyway.
Steve Jenny says bad curation, ie. Not protecting the sleeves, not
even attempting to clean the records,not understanding the grading system, poor storage
choices. You can't ask record shopprices if you don't administer the same practices.

(53:40):
I mean, that's pretty bang on. Maybe I would tolerate paying a
bit more in a charity shop ifthey are actually presented the same as in
a proper record shop equally, I'mnot sure i'd won what sleeve protection?
Well, no, No, it'sthe cleaning part that fills me with dread,
because that could go horribly wrong.Oh that's true as well. I

(54:00):
mean, what we're one thing we'relearning here is it's really fraught and there
isn't necessarily any right or wrong answers. Are there no well that's the last
customer related one for now. Chriss says, if we tell you that
scratched Demis Russos isn't worth thirty pounds, we're not doing it to scam you.

(54:22):
Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah, you have to bite your tongue,
don't you, because if you sayanything, they'll get they'll get very
frosty and say, well, wehave a man who does the records,
so I will tell you, Paul, I am the kind of person who
does say something. Oh and andthey always act like I am trying to
scam them. So yeah, bloodyhell, Chris, you are right,

(54:44):
and yeah, there's no point.There's no point. So I was in
a shopping becks Hill where every everyrecord they had donated was like fifteen quid,
twenty quid, thirty quid, thirtyfive quid, fifteen quid, eighteen
quid, and they were all thesame records you see any charity shop.
And I mean I almost I'm notgoing to say I almost came to blows,

(55:07):
but my voice did get a littlebit angsty when I was trying to
tell the person on the floor,who I think was a manager, that
it was not right and his everythingthat he did and said just screamed,
stop scamming me. So yeah,now, Paul, We've had a couple

(55:28):
of thoughts from listeners who do actuallyprice records in charity shops. Gavin Hogg
says, I priced records for acharity shop and I always try to strike
the balance between making some money forthem and giving someone a bit of a
bargain. My general rule of thumbis to see what something might go for

(55:49):
on discogs and reduce it by fiftypercent, and if it's super rare it
can go on eBay. That's nailedit, hasn't it. Genuinely rare stuff
can make money for the charity andyou didn't pay anything for it, So
unlike a record shop who has tobuy their records, you can actually say
go half or take and take anotherthird off because you didn't pay that bit,

(56:14):
which is the stumbling block if you'vegot a record shop, you've got
to make money back. Yeah,absolutely, I mean he And the other
thing is, remember if I've donatedmy records to a charity shop and there
are rare items in there, I, as the person who donated them,
I'm trying to raise as much moneyfor that charity as possible. If you

(56:35):
then turn around and sell them allfor one pound each as the person who
donated, then that's that's a disaster, yea, as great as it might
be for the very first person whocomes in after they got put out,
and of benefit to nobody else.Correct. So yes, one person in
Britain will win and well done them, but nobody else does and the charity

(56:57):
doesn't know. But that but thatdoesn't mean put a tenor on abbat albums,
No, there is, there isa fine, there's there's lots of
stakeholders in this and to satisfy themall. But I think Gavin he's got
he could be. So for example, if I go at a charity shop
and there's loads of dance twelve inchesthat are worth four quid each, but

(57:19):
they're out at one ninety nine each, I'll probably buy the lot. Yeah,
I'll buy them all up because it'sgreat. It's a good deal for
me, Cherry gets some money.Fine, if they're all four pounds each,
and I know they're all worth fourpounds each, I probably won't buy
them all. Yeah, that makessense, But then it means that maybe
the next you might buy two orthree. That you were actually looking for

(57:39):
correct and then the next ten twentypeople might might find one or two each.
I did once buy a job lotfrom a charity shop go on and
because I think they were I thinkthey may have only been a pound or
two pounds each. It was alldance music, I think, for four
crates. And I think I saidto her something like, well, you

(58:02):
could sell these one at a timeover the next six months, or would
you take an offer and let metake them all today? Or some charity
shops do not like that? Sowell done for taking that risk. She
nearly bit my arm off him.Oh brilliant, as you said, it's
the single biggest transaction she'd ever madein the store. Perfect. Well,

(58:23):
maybe that goes to show sometimes there'sno Oh. I think haggling is a
different thing. It's slightly different whenit's a huge volume. You're not haggling
over four records exactly. Yeah,Or because ultimately they may end up throwing
away more than half of those,Well that's the thing. You've got to

(58:45):
find a buyer for every single one. How long is that going to take?
And in our charity shop records donot get treated well. They they
end up you get those last dregsof the creatill there they get battered and
ripped and Paul, we've got onemore have been put from someone who actually
prices them. Don Stubbington writes,I have price violent and ch has for

(59:06):
the last eight years. I tryand maximize profit, but always price reasonably
according to in condition. But mostmoan and wants something for nothing. Sadly
all viol off the floor and onlykeep what's going to sell. Oh so
he gets rid of all the brassband stuff and puts out sellable a reasonable
price and can't argue with that.Thank you Don for getting in touch there.
It sounds like he has actually,you know, got experience of talking

(59:30):
to punters who come in and wingeat him about the prices. It's just
I think so for the woman whowho asked us in the first place to
kind of do this subject, I'mI'm not quite sure how helpful this has
been because different people want different things. There's a long list of things that

(59:51):
go wrong, Yes, so maybejust don't do any of them and then
you'll be laughing. Listen to Gavin, Yeah, listen to Gavin. I
think there's a couple of things andDon there's a couple of things here.
Just to close off the feature thesegment, Eric Trump says, the board
game Kensington in with the records tellsyou that no one is sliding the records

(01:00:15):
out to look at the condition whenpricing. Paul, do you know the
board game Kensing because you see itin charity shops all the time in with
the records. So for listeners thatdon't know, I think it was probably
a very late seventies or early eightiesboard game that just for some reason,
it is the exact size and shapethat the packaging of a record. But

(01:00:37):
it's got nothing to do with music. It's not record related. It was
just manufactured to be that shape andyou pull it out and it's a game.
And yeah, the number of timesI've come across that in a Boxer
records is just brilliant. And yeah, it's it's an absolute symbol, isn't
it that no care has been takenwhatsoever over these records? Last one for

(01:00:59):
me and Barrett? Records on clotheshangers? No, just please don't put
records on close hangers. Yeah,have you seen that in the flesh?
Then? Loads of times? Yeah? What why? What does it mean
with a little clippy things for grippingthe skirt or whatever. I don't get
it. Somebody once thought, oh, I've got a great idea, and

(01:01:23):
then it must somebody and it musthave snowballed because somebody else saw it.
Isn't it odd somebody had to dothat for the first time. There is
one other thing I've seen that's sortof comparable to that that I couldn't quite
believe what I was seeing, whichwas where they'd got a you know,
like a calendar or book revolving displayor greetings cards. They're made out of

(01:01:44):
kind of bent metal coated in whiteplastic. They literally have that in the
in the in the mine shopping beckseal. They have them in a calendar
rack. But have you ever seen, because I have records forced into a
rack like that that is ever soslightly too small for them. Oh and

(01:02:04):
every single sleeve was just slightly torn, slightly buckled, slightly mangled at the
bottom sort of four inches where theywhere they pushed it in, every single
one. The worst thing I thoughtwas the cat charity in Bexhill, who,
after after writing the price tickets,sellotaped over them as security measures so

(01:02:29):
people couldn't change the price stickers.Oh no, yeah, and I presume
the price the price stickers were alreadysticky, right, Yes, they sellotaped
over standard shop price stickers. That'sa security measure, to be fair.
That shot was paranoid, paranoid aboutshoplifting. It's actually a little bit sad.

(01:02:52):
Probably somebody once stole a Toby jugand that set them off on this
mad path of so charity shops.If you could, if you could listen
to all these thoughts that we've justpresented to you, kind of squished them
into a big kind of globular massof data and then do that slash,

(01:03:14):
don't do that depending on whether itwas positive or negative. Is that all
right? And if you're the BritishHeart Foundation, we are available as vinyl
consultants on three thousand pounds per dayif you want us to come to your
corporate HQ and give give you thelowdown. Yep, very very happy to
do that. What is going on? What is happening in the British Heart

(01:03:36):
Foundation? Who knows? Thank youeverybody who got in touch on this subject.
I didn't think that it would besuch a such a hot topic.
And apologies to people who we didn'tfind supposed to read out because actually a
lot of people got in touch withgreat comments, but we can't read them
all out, but thank you everybody. We did read them all and had

(01:03:57):
a chuckle at a lot of them, especially the one the guy who said
he's frustrated by bending down to lookon the floor records because it shows his
ass. So I'm sorry we didn'tfind space for you, Paul. Yes,
Tim, do you want a quiz? Oh? Very rare that I'm
on the receiving end. This neverends well, but go for it.

(01:04:19):
I had a conversation with somebody recentlywho expressed anger and frustration about all of
these acronyms that you get in theworld of music, where people are just
expected to magically know what they mean. So Paul, let's find out if
you know what some music acronyms mean. So now listen. The reason Okay,

(01:04:40):
So the reason why I'm doing thisis some of these you will know.
Some of them you probably won't know. But we've had this so many
times. I love how much youdon't know about proper music. So you
know everything about duff calculating music,but your gaps. But you I've now
got a record shop, Paul.So the onus is now on you to

(01:05:03):
start to know about this stuff.Okay, okay, right? Have you
have you got a pen and paperto keep track of your school? I
do have a penitive paper, yes, right, go for it. Okay.
So I'm going to show you twelve, oh god, and I'll tell
the listeners what they are. Now, hang on a second, right,

(01:05:27):
can you read that? Paul?Yes? Okay, right, So to
give you an example, then ifI said to you G N R yep,
what would I be referring to gunsand roses? Correct? But that
you don't get a point for thatbecause that was just an example. So
here we go number one. Andso I'm showing because I think a lot
of this is about how they lookwritten down. I am showing them to

(01:05:50):
Paul, but I'm also going tospell them out for the listeners. Listeners
play along at home. I prettymuch guarantee that you'll get more than Paul
does. So Paul, here wego. Here's number one. R A
T. M Oh. I thinkI know this one? Is it rage

(01:06:11):
against the Machine? Oh my god? Yes, it is, flip.
Well done, Paul. That's one. Number two, nice easy one for
you. E b M Electronic bodyMusic. Correct now, I think you
might get that. That more thana lot of listeners will get that,
because not everyone knows EBM. Ihave actually have a section called EBM with

(01:06:35):
a divider in the store. Ofcourse you do. QO T s A.
They got me to stock the newalbum. Do you know how many
I've sold? How many? None? Oh, you're joking, but you
know it. Queens of the StoneAge. Whoa, my god, Paul,

(01:06:55):
Holy shit, the Beggar Scruple youcame in. Oh we've got the
new Quiz of the Stone Paul.You're gonna love these. How many copies
do you want to not st mymanage to offload half of them to Borko?
I haven't one? Not one.That's wow, that's a shocker.
I mean they're they're pretty big.I would have thought you'd have sold a
couple. Nope, no any either. Oh good right, find out for

(01:07:18):
next time. Here's your next one, UK G UK garage. It is
UK garage, Paul. If you'vegot every single one so far, you
don't say that, because now it'sgoing to go horribly tips. What's going
on? Yeah, you're right,okay, next up for you? Oh,
it's a tricky one. We're goingback. We're going back in time.

(01:07:41):
Listeners. What's this c s N? Why uh sometimes rendered as c
s N? And why that doesn'treally Oh Crosby Steelson Nash, Yes,

(01:08:02):
yes, Crosby still young? Ohmy god, Paul, what the fuck
has happened to you? I don'tknow. How are you getting She's right,
I don't know. I can tellyou. I'm not googling them.
What the fuck? Yes? Areyou're watching me? Sorry? Oh my
god? Okay, wow, allright, keep calm Tim, Okay,

(01:08:26):
p I public Image Limited? Whatthe okay, Paul, I've literally got
one of their albums in my eyeline to someone replaced you. Yeah,
but you only no dance music.This is huge, yep. P I
l is Public Image Limited? Andwho is the main dude in Public Image
Limited? Oh? Is it JohnLyden? It's John Lyden? Flipping it,

(01:08:48):
Tucker? Right? Hang on?Where Iver we got to? I
can't I can't quite believe this.Okay, here we go. Here's a
classic r HCP. Mmm. That'sstumped me. Probably one of the biggest

(01:09:09):
bands in the world, certainly theChili Peppers. You haven't got a single
one wrong. Have you No?Okay, another relatively easy one? What's
n I N nine inch nails?Of course it is so. I thought
that I tried to put in somenice, easy ones for you because of

(01:09:29):
who you are, and then Ithought them, we're going to stump the
shit out of you. Sorry,I mean now I feel stupid. I
d M intelligent dance music. Itis intelligent dance music. I don't know
what's going on. Can I justsay that that equals your ten in a
row? Yeah? I can't believeit. I really I'm quite cross.

(01:09:55):
Paul. What does ao R standfor Adult orientated rock? No? No,
so people often think it stands forthat, but it doesn't. Ah.
What does it stand for? Then? Album orientated oriented rock? So
it was about in the seventies thealbum became king as opposed to singles.

(01:10:18):
Oh, I know, I'm glad. I would have been really upset if
you'd got them all right. Thelast one is km F d M.
There are several answers to this,and I don't know the actual Yes.
So there's some say it's Kylie Minoguefans don't masturbate. Some people say it's

(01:10:43):
called kill motherfucking depeche Mode. Andthe real name I can't remember because I
can't pronounce it. I feel like, well, I can't give you the
point no, but I mean you'reyou're right. It's not kill motherfucking depeche
Mode, although that was a persistentrumor for a long time. Yes,

(01:11:08):
and the Kylie Minogue fans don't masturbateone was also quite funny. But can
you pronounce it? It's German,yes, I know that much, and
it means something like no sympathy forthe masses. And in fact, they
admit that. I think they gotthe name by pulling German words out of
a hat. Ah, Now itmakes sense. The name doesn't actually make

(01:11:32):
sense in German, but it's KaineMayer freight freud midlaide, which translates has
no pity for the majority. Well, I'm taking tell out two. I
was a win, oh my god, and I was nearly there on the
last two. Can I just sayhow proud I am of you that you've
really grown it since opening the recordshop. I don't know what's happened,

(01:11:54):
Paul. I don't know what's happened, but maybe because I keep seeing all
these titles passed before my eyes.But that's it exactly. It just it
goes in, even for somebody asstupid as you. Yes, absolutely,
stuff it goes in. So thething is, Paul I was going to
I was going to throw it tothe listeners to then say, right,
listeners, how many of you beatPaul in the quiz? But you did

(01:12:16):
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