College Football Room 10-27-2024

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
All right, quick little college football wrap up here. Basically
just some thoughts, really, just some random thoughts being put together. Seriously.
Number one Vandy Nebraska. Those are two teams that are
gonna look back on this, with two coaches that are
gonna have a lot of regret. There is no excuse,

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no justification. I don't give a damn what any coach
or anybody.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Tries to tell me.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
With five minutes to go in the game, you're still
very much in it. You've got a couple of timeouts left,
you got the two minute plus in college football. After
the first down, the damn play clock stops and you're
going forward on your own thirty yard line. You know,
the whole thing about being a football coach is putting

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your players in the best position to win a game.
It's really as simple as that. I understand that players
still have to execute. That's a dumb call, and there's
no other way to say it other than that is
a bonehead call. Anybody who and here's the thing, we're

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not just talking about that clearing one person. How many
people had to agree to go for it, and then
they all had to agree on the play call. What
kind of like if you're gonna do that, at least
keep it simple, and because clearly Texas was in zone
on that play, they're all looking in the backfield. I mean,

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you're gonna have to to do a play action and
a rollout at that point just to try and get
the eyes to truly move somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
That was a.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Ridiculous play call, a bonehead move, and Vanderbilt has nobody
to blame but themselves for their piss poor coaching in
that football game. I'm just keeping it real, Matt rule,
same thing over Nebraska. Look, it's fine, Okay, great, they
got obliterated one week and then the next week they

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almost win a football game. Well almost doesn't cut it now,
does it. We're not here to impress. We're not here
to put up a good fight or have a close victory.
You know we're not. That's not what we're here to do.
And what was it third down, Matt Ruhle doing all
this window dressing with a freshman quarterback, all this just

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to run the football up the middle. That's just dumb.
Keep it simple, strength on strength, man on man, kiss,
keep it simple, stupid, run the football up the middle,
and don't put your kids in a situation to where
if they can get a penalty like they did with
the with the illegal motion, because it's also predicated upon
the fact that it's clearly a poor play design from

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a coach who doesn't understand the rules. It was terrible coachingska.
How many times did they have chances inside the red zone,
especially after the interception that was taken all the way
back to what the five yard line? You're right there
on the goal line. What are you thinking? And I

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know somebody's going to say, well, Vanderbilt, you know their situation.
The defense held up. They did, but now you're down
by ten, so now you've got to get two scores
to get back in that football game. I didn't have
a problem with the decision for Nebraska to go forward
on fourth and goal because even if you don't get it,

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you've got Ohio State penn back.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
But as much as Ohio State turned the football over,
Nebraska is going to be kicking themselves in the ass
because they really should have won that game running away,
and we might not be talking about Ohio State even
having a chance in the playoffs now. The way that
it went down with Oregon Ryan Day getting out coached.

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You know, I look right now, it's really difficult to
say who the true number one is. It's probably Oregon,
Don't get me wrong. I mean the rankings are going
to come out, but I don't know if I would
have the number one. Obviously the resume works, right, But
I just still think that Georgia is the best team
in college football. I really do. And I think that

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because I know they lost to Alabama, but I still
think that they have a superior coach in Kirby Smart.
My thing is and my impression and my argument will
continue to be. Sure they were getting their asses whipped
in that football game. Sure they ended up losing it
on what was just really great plays from Ryan Williams

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and some other guys, right, just phenomenal plays. Ryan Williams
had literally one of the greatest plays of all time
that night period. But Kirby Smart out co which Kailen
debor and down twenty one to nothing. Get your head up,
get your head up, stay in it, stay in it.
We're okay, we got this. Don't worry about it. He

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made the necessary adjustments at at halftime, not to mention
they didn't get a field goal. If I remember correctly
to end the first half. So they were able to
put some sort of drive together, put some sort of
points together, and that was just enough for him to
be able to leverage his guys into we can do this.
Do not give up. I'm just not sold on Dan

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Lanning now he out coached Ryan Day. I will admit
that it was a petty move, but it was a
move that worked. They've already changed the rule because of it,
so it is what it is for me, though, I
would still have Georgia's number one team in college football.

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But I don't have a problem with Oregon being right
number one either. And I know somebody out there is
gonna go in just jog riding the SEC. Man, you
better go check out my archives, Brody, and let's keep
it a buck. You know, my argument has never been
whether or not the SEC is the superior conference. My

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argument has been how they got there and then created
the sustainability. That is what my argument has been. And
they are the superior conference, whether we like it or not.
It's the way that it is. But I also think
that we need to do away with the idea of
the Power four Conference. And I also think that we
need to do away with voting in top twenty five

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polls and all that BS to begin with. Anyways, in
college football, if you're going to have a playoff, it
needs to be a playoff because right now, the way
that it is, it's an invitational, with the caveat being
if you are a Power four conference champion, you are
automatically in.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
That's the caveat, and it's BS to be honest with
you shouldn't be that way. And to me, we need
sixteen teams, not twelve. I've been screaming for sixteen teams
for years. I've said, look, you either do one of
two things. You either take your conference champions they automatically

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get in and then you've got your six bubble teams basically,
or you just have a true playoff system, which is
what I would be the bigger fan of, where you
take the human element out of it, you create a
system and a set of rules, and it leaves it
open for the entire NCAA. Now it's not gonna happen

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because they want to keep their blue bloods blue, but
that's the way that it should be. They want to
keep all the money with the Big ten, they want
to keep all the money with the Big Twelve. They
want to keep all the money with the SEC. And
to be honest with you, I'm surprised the Big Twelve
hasn't dissolved. I'm keeping it a buck here. Why it's
still considered a power conference really blows me away. That's

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part of the reason why we need to do away
with the idea of a power conference, because, let's be honest,
Nebraska hasn't won Deadley since Vince Young was a quarterback
in Texas. Sure, they've been to some BCS championship games,
they've been in the College Football Playoff, and they've competed
for a championship, but they've got obliterated. Texas wasn't all

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that great last year in the CFP. Let's keep it
a buck. Nobody's gonna forget what Georgia did to TCU
three out of four times that OU's been there, they
got smacked around in the College Football Playoff, blew a
pretty good lead against Georgia in the other game. It's

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never been to me about strength of conference. I mean,
the ACC hasn't really been all that great, but Clemson
was still a truly good football team and they won
championships we need to have a true playoff system because
somebody from the Big Twelve is gonna make it to

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the CFP this year and they're gonna get annihilated. Speaking
of which, your your top two teams leave and you're
you're telling me that the Big twelve is still good
when OU goes off to the SEC and they are
getting smacked the fuck around. It was real comfortable in

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the Big Twelve, Wasn't it being OU and getting those
votes every single year and being allowed to be in
that invitational because that's what it is. It's an invitational.
We're inviting you, and OU was consistently given the benefit
of the doubt. They got the benefit of the doubt
during the BCS era thanks to the combination of the

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voting and the computer system that they had. I mean,
then they get jumped basically in an alley street fight
by Kansas State.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Didn't they get what was that thirty.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Five nothing or whatever to score that game was and
they still got to compete for a championship and then
people were surprised that they lost. I'm not saying that
a one lost football team is a bad team, but
it just seemed like every year the Big twelve figured
out new and creative ways to out themselves. Does anybody
remember Kansas State being undefeated and then a losing record

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Baylor team comes along.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
And destroys them.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Then they got may led in the second half of
that bowl game that same season by Oregon. We need
to do away with the idea that a conference is
a power conference. It needs to go away if you
want to keep conferences. I don't have an issue with that.
There's just too many teams in college football to not
But there's over one hundred and thirty and they're gonna

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tell me that we're gonna basically regale it down to
four conferences as being the premiere. I just I don't
buy that. I never have and I never will. All
of these is a shield. It's just a title to
keep the money flowing where you wanted to go. That's

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all that it amounts to. You just need to have
a true playoff system. I mean, if you want to
keep ranking, sure, I guess, but the ranking system is
predominantly looked at now from the ape pole and what
is the ap It's the damn associated press, and people
that are in the media have a tendency to be

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caught up in the moment instead of sitting back and
looking and going, well, this is actually what it should
be like. And I'm not really impressient. Just they can't
figure it out, you know. And last season was such
a mess with the CFP committee jumping teams all around.
They couldn't figure out who was number one, They didn't

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know what they wanted to do. They just were completely
out of it, and it got to the point where
if you followed closely, they were actually just mimicking the
oaj's pole. I personally think that the committee threw their
hands up last season. I really do.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
And the fact that an undefeated football team got left
out says everything I don't want to hear about the
Georgia game. Kirby Smart himself said at the end of
that football game, people got to decide what they want,
and he talked about what happened on that field. He
knows exactly what happened. Florida State didn't show up on purpose.
It was a middle finger to the committee. All the

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guys that were relevant to that football team, with the
exceptional obviously Travis because he got hurt. They all opted
to go to the NFL and didn't bother to play
in that Bowl game. Georgia beat Florida State's practice squad.
Good for them.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Kirby smart knows exactly what happened that day, and I
get it from a fan's perspective. You don't want to
see it that way, but it is what it is.
What I am telling you is is we need to
stop making business decisions and we need to start making
football decisions because I've had it up to here with Well,

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we're trying to create the best matchup. That's not up
to you, and it shouldn't be up to anybody else.
This is not MMA. Okay, stop being Dana White and
stop trying to create a situation where you think this
team and that team is going to be the best
possible matchup to keep your ratings up. Blowouts are going

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to happen, whether anybody likes it or not. Ask any
fight promoter. They'll tell you they're seeing it in their head.
They think this is the right fight to make, and
they visualize it going a particular way, and sometimes that
just doesn't work, and it's boring. There's no entertainment value,

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and you are insulting the intelligence of the real fan.
Is what you are really doing. We should be doing
away with polls all together. Man, I've been saying forever
that we need to transition a lot of different things.
We need to stop with the way that we're doing
the playoffs in the NFL, AFC and NFC all that

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it's just a shield to make money. Conference versus conference
in the NFL shouldn't be a thing. Just take the
best fourteen teams in the NFL, seat them out and
we'll see what happens. If you want to brag about
what conference is best, sure, keep the conferences, keep the
shield the money maker, but we'll really find out how

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good some of these teams really are when they got
to play intersectionally. Basically, the point of what I'm saying
is we need to do away with the current system
the way that it is. The NCAA got it wrong,
and all they did was just line the pockets of
everybody else and assure that the m he would stay

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where they wanted to. That's all they did. They guaranteed
their revenue. That was it, and the last I guess
thought here for college football. Look, I love Prime. I've
been a supporter of Prime when he was at Jackson State.

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I absolutely had his back didn't understand where they hate
was coming from when he did what he did last season,
the transfer portal and all that with Colorado, I completely
understood it. But the Big Twelve, I just got done
ridiculing them, and I stand by it. And to me,
eight or nine wins is an accomplishment. It's a far

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and away cry from where they were. But I still
would just say he's not coach of the year. What's
going on in Indiana right now is coach of the
year material, and that's all there is to it. I
can't stand Dan Lanning and I'd put him into that
category right now before I would with Coach Prime. I

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would say Prime would be maybe like a fourth or
fifth candidate. But to me, he's not for sure the
coach of the year. I'm just saying now. The thing
I talked about was at the beginning of this year
with Colorado was if they win ten games, then yes,
that might be for it, right, and you could probably

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get a college football playoff bid out of that. To
be honest with you, but they're not beating anybody a consequence,
and you could call everybody haters all you want to. Now,
I will accept the argument that they are right now
winning games that they normally would not win. But the
nucleus of that football team is Shador and Travis, and
when one of the others either not playing good or

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they're injured, that is not the same football team. Now
they've finally been getting it together with the run game.
The defense is a little bit better, but not much.
They still couldn't tackle most pee wee teams. Being honest,
multiple things can be true. I love Prime. I think
he really cares about his players. I really do. The

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Lynphoma announcement, it was weird to me the hate that
was going on in the comment section. The kid is
telling a story and then Prime is giving feedback to
that young man and trying to provide him with a
little bit of hope. What the fuck is wrong with
some of you people. Look, I can understand not liking somebody,

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that's one thing. But taking it to that level where
now you're mad about this, that's just weird. Bro. It's
not weird to video that. It's twenty twenty four. Everybody
who videos everything on the internet. Everybody does. I'm not
a fan of it. I think if you're gonna do
charity work, you should do it without cameras, but it

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is what it is. Stop acting like Prime is the
only one doing stuff like this. That's the point that
I'm making here, Like, I just don't think he would
be coach of the year. And I think if Indiana
continues the way that they're going, they're probably to me
the second or third best team right now in college football.
I mean, honestly, my top three would be Georgia, Indiana,

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and then Oregon. That's the way that it is. I
know that somebody's gonna go. Man, Oregon's resume is so
much better. We're not going to get into that. I
want to finish this thought about Pride. What I'm saying
is eight or nine wins is not coach of the

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year stuff. It's just not, especially in the Big twelve
right now the way that it is, And they haven't
beat anybody of consequence, and in all the big important games,
are constantly playing from behind and they're having to come
back all the time. And you know, and I get it,
second half adjustments. It's a thing. It's a great thing.
Prime has proved to be good at it. But here's
the thing, though, even with the improvement of Colorado this season,

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do you really think he's going to be there after
Travis and them go away. So what's happening right now
with Colorado is they're probably being provided with false hope. Now,
whether or not he's going to go to Florida State
or coach at all, I don't know, but I think
it's pretty obvious that he has coached Shiloh, Chador and
Travis to the NFL. I'm just keeping it a buck, okay,

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And if that's what he wants to do, then I mean,
the hell with it, right. I mean, even if he did,
you know, the Ocean peal thing. You know, the point
of what I'm saying is I don't think he's going
to be there next year. I think it's false hope.
I would love to see what would happen if Prime
continued after Shador, Travis, and Shiloh left, then I would

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be like, Okay, let's see what happens. But again, the
transfer portal thing from this season, I still don't agree
with it. Last season I did this season over forty players. Again, man,
I look, I don't know that you can win football
games by doing that. Every single year. They're all winning games. Bro,

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who are they beating? We have to be honest about this.
Multiple things can be true at once. I know somebody's
not gonna give a damn and they're gonna jump at
my commons. Soction if you can hate her, I don't care, Brody,
I really don't give a damn. I'm not a hater.
I'm a huge supporter of Prime. I just want to

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see this thing through. If that was going to happen,
I would be cool with it. But I just when
he got interviewed by Klatt, he completely avoided the question
about whether or not he was going to be there.
And I understand not giving away your next move, but
something just tells me that Prime has already got something
up his sleeve, whatever the next move is. I think

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he's already made the decision. I'm just keeping it a buck.
And to finish my other thought, yes, I would definitely
have Georgia one, Indiana two, and Oregon three. I know
that Oregon right now has the better resume. I know
that Georgia has a loss to Alabama, but I think

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that the way that Indiana is winning football games, they
are so dominant right now. With the way that Oregon
had to beat Ohio State, who really struggled against Nebraska.
You're not gonna beat anybody else this season like that,
especially Kirby Smart.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
That's just the way that it is. Now.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
The problem with Georgia is is Carson beck is he's
a turnover nightmare. They've really got to clean that aspect up,
especially in the bigger games. But I still think he's
the superior coach, and the superior coach I think Will Rise.
I'm just saying, and I think Signetti is probably the

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second best coach right now in all of college football.
And somebody is going to throw a lot of fucking
money at him. I'm telling you right now, somebody. They're
out there, they've got a check. Every man's got his price.
You don't know what your price is until he gets offered.

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There's going to be a lot of money thrown at him.
Look at what's going on in LSU. They just got
beat down by A and M right, so they're out
of the college football playoff. Let's keep that a buck.
What I'm saying is is Brian Kelly, if he got
one hundred million dollars and all this back end stuff
and all these bonuses and everything, imagine what he's gonna

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get with what he's doing in Indiana. They had better
start opening up the pocket book right now. The Hoosiers,
if they want to keep him, they are ready, better
have a deal prepared on the table, and they better
have their ear to the streets, because somebody's out there
right now foaming. They are frothing. They are just sitting

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back like seasons almost over. Man, we're halfway through. I'm
about phone calls will be made very quickly, I promise you.
All right, that's it, that's all I got. That's the show.
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Stay safe, take care of yourselves.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Have a great rest of your weekend.