_Milano Di Rouge Founder Milan Harris Gets Unfiltered at FashCon Philly!_

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Speaker 1 (00:32):
We talked weeklies after the talk on wppml P Philadelphia
one O six point five film. We talk week these
after the talk. So we got a dynamic show for
you today. We got a special, special, special clip that
I'm going to show a little bit longer than a clip,
but I'm gonna give you an opportunity to see something
that I had the opportunity to go and view. Shout

(00:54):
out to Fashion Con Philly. I had the opportunity to
go to Fashion Con Philly and see dynamic, a dynamic
panel right everywhere from thought leaders to AI specialists, to
designers to people who have been in the industry for
decades like Farm Mileas firm. Millis was the creator of

(01:16):
New York Fashion Week, so that was a special piece
to see her having a conversation with Milan Milan Haris.
Milan Harris is the CEO and founder of Moulin Rouge Right,
Moulin de Rouge Right, and so that's an incredible fashion
line here in Philadelphia that you know, I'm just super

(01:37):
excited to see her work. So she actually had the
ability to sit down on a panel have this in
depth conversation with Fern Malas. Now Farm Milas have seen
thousands and thousands of different lines from different designers, and
so it was great to see this conversation juxtaposed someone
from safe example, the hood to you know, elite status

(02:01):
right that Fern Malice is. And so I'm gonna play
this clip. I want you all to tune in. After
the clip, we'll talk a little bit about it. But
of course we got good news and bad news. We
got the sizzle, and we got of course the beautiful
class ladies sparkle, the beautiful sizzle. Of course, my God
powering the building. But before we do anything, I want
y'all to take a look, take a watch, and we'll

(02:21):
be right back.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Y'all.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Explore entrepreneurship, authenticity, and the ever evolving world of fashion,
from the runway to the retail, from Philly to the world.
And with that, I'm pleased to welcome to the stage

(02:45):
Milan Harris and Fern Malice.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Hey, y'all, Yeah, we're gonna find out what's up. Okay,
So this is built as a fireside chat, but this
is not about me today. That's another day, another story,

(03:30):
another time. We're here to explore and learn from Milan
about her helps. Did you all hear what I said already. Okay,
we're here to talk to Milan and find out about
her journey and her rise and kind of what Conrad said,

(03:53):
how she right here from Philly created this unbelievable brand
and and what you all can learn from it. Now,
can you all see her because that hat is putting
a dark shadow on her face? Lifted up a little bit?

Speaker 5 (04:08):
How on em?

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean you look too good to be
in the dark. And nobody could take pictures. They won't
see your eyes, so fix that.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Thank you. Listen to the god Mother. Listen to the
god Mother.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Gotta listen to me. Okay, so you were born in
Bred and Philly.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
Yes, I was. What's Philadelphia?

Speaker 4 (04:34):
And where do you live and work now?

Speaker 5 (04:40):
I live in Atlanta, Georgia. I have a headquarters in Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
That shadow is killing me? Is it's killing you? On
her face?

Speaker 5 (04:46):
So, y'all, I would take off my head, but obstacles, obstacles, obstacles.
But I was getting listen, y'all. My entire brand was
good up obstacles, so of course it was obstacles. Yesterday
I was getting my hair braided and the lady that
was braiding my hair was pregnant, so she started having
pain from vibroids and she literally, I'm like, you got
to go to the hospital. So I didn't get it finished.

(05:08):
I got on my head. I wasn't not going to
show up.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
What could you?

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Could you turn it around like the baseball players like
put the like the brim in the back.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
How about this because it's not We had to see it, Jo,
we had to see that is not done.

Speaker 6 (05:26):
To keep your head up.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
All right, Okay, tell us about your name, Milan. Where
how did that happen? Your parents go to Italy or something?

Speaker 5 (05:38):
No, so, so my real name is Johannika Harris, and
growing up no one could pronounce my name. So when
I got to college and I grew up when I
was grew up in West Philly, so I used to
get into a bunch of fights and like, I was
going through a lot. And when I got to college,

(05:59):
I remember came out with a Sasha Fierce era and
she had her alter ego, and I'm like, I want
an alter ego. So me and my friends she came
up with a name Milana, and I'm like, oh, I
need a last name, and she was like rouge. I'm like,
I like the Mulai Rouge. So that was my name
and I created a new identity with that. Because I

(06:21):
grew up in the hood, naturally, like I would just
get into fights and naturally I would like succumb to
my circumstances. And when I went to college, I realized, like,
I want to create my own path. I don't like,
I don't have to be a product of my environment.
I became a product of my decisions. So when I

(06:42):
changed my name, it changed everything for me. And when
I created Milano de Rouge, I created big shoes for
my brand.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Because we'll get to all that.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
Okay, gotcha.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Apropos of a two panels ago. When you use the
name Milan de Rouge, did you very quickly copyrighted and trademarket?

Speaker 5 (07:02):
Yeah, so, no, it wasn't quick. It was actually I
literally just got my trademark last year. I was fighting
for my trademark for ten years. Ten years, I was
fighting for my trademark, and every time I just would
not let it go. I kept applying, I kept reapplying,
and I finally got it after ten years. Because it
was hard because of the city Milano, I mean, because yeah,

(07:26):
so they were trying to figure out, like the people
know Milino de Rouge outside of the city, and after
ten years they figured it out.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
So have you had the same lawyer for ten years?

Speaker 5 (07:35):
No, I kept going if something an't working, I'm gonna
pivot real quick. I've kept going to more lawyers. I'm like,
somebody got to get this. If Paris Hilson can trade
Paris perfume, I can trade Milano de Rouge.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Well, that's a good, good example to tell those people
who do that. Yep, God knows who does that now.
The Trump's probably eliminated that whole office. Okay, So Melan,

(08:08):
you started selling t shirts out of the trunk of
your cars whatever in Philly. Take us back to those
early days and what kept you going when you're just
getting started and you know that that's how Tommy Hilfiget
started also selling jeans out of the trunk of his
car and Elmira, New York.

Speaker 7 (08:23):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
Wow. Yeah. So I started with two sweatshirts. I wore
one and I sold the other one and I used
that money to buy five more. I post on Instagram
and say, yo, I'm a designer. Anybody want to buy
some shirts? Text me? And I was driving around Philly
delivering shirts out the trunk of my car and Conrad.
Look at this trunk Conrade created. So when I walked in,

(08:45):
I was like tearing up because it's just such your
beautiful memory. And I remember so as I was growing,
As I was trying to grow, I started to like
dedicate certain days to what I would deliver items. And
then I started to dedicate certain days where I would
work on the brand. And I remember, I'm like, all right,
Tuesdays and Thursdays is going to be my days I

(09:06):
work on the brand. And I remember people was texting
me and they're like, what you think my money?

Speaker 2 (09:10):
No?

Speaker 8 (09:10):
Good?

Speaker 5 (09:11):
Like I'm like, no, I want your money, of course,
but I want to grow my brand. And I'm trying
to figure out this thing out. Like it wasn't no
romant for me. I'm just trialing error. I was on
YouTube University, so I was just kind of figure it.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Out YouTube University. I love that. Well, I'm glad you're clarified.
I didn't know what this this car fender was here.
I thought this is a strange decoration for the stage,
but it has meaning for you, So so thank you, Conrad. Okay,
so how to growing up in Philadelphia shape your vision,

(09:45):
hustle and entrepreneurial mind mindset.

Speaker 5 (09:48):
Growing up in Philly, it's hard, it's not easy. So
growing up in Philly it just made me like, So
I grew up in a single parent home. My father
was incarcerated almost all my life. He got locked up
when I was ten months, came home when I was
ten years old, got locked back up when I was twelve,
and he's been locked up ever since. I was raised
by my mom And like, as you look at statistics,

(10:10):
they showed that I shouldn't be here, but by the
grace of God, I am. And growing up in Philly
it just gave me their mindset that like nothing can
stop me. I came from the bottom, Like I grew
up literally in the bottom of West Philly, thirty eighth Reno.
So it's like once you come from the bottom, the
only way to go is up. You don't you don't lose,
like you only win and you learn. And I feel
like like lessons can truly be blessings if you allow

(10:32):
yourself to learn from them. And because I came from
the bottom, every no, I've heard so many nose, I
don't even that's just like literally another obstacle I'm gonna overcome.
And I feel like it really helped my mindset to realize,
like nothing is impossible.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Did you have siblings growing up?

Speaker 5 (10:50):
I have a sister, yep, and we're really close.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Did she work with you or.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, she works with me. Her and my mom both
works with me.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
And what what did your mom do when you were
growing up?

Speaker 5 (10:58):
My mom sold my mother, So my mom actually was
the reason why I knew that, like anything was possible.
My mom had two kids, single mom. She was a
nursing age she was working with them mentally disabled, and
she ended up going back to college. So she dropped
out of school in the ninth grade when she had
my sister because people were teasing her. And at the

(11:20):
age of twenty eight, she decided to change her life.
So she went to school full time and she worked
full time. And I remember watching her do it, and
I'm like, if she could do that, two kids, single
mom was stopping me. I don't have any kids. The
only thing stopping me is me and just knowing that,
like she sacrificed her life for me to dream, so

(11:42):
I had to go hard. Nothing was stopping me. And
she's a register nurse. She has a master's degree in business.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah, is she still here in Philly?

Speaker 5 (11:55):
She lives in Atlanta with me.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
She movedlan. She lives with you. Yeah wait, yep, big house.
She's making good money. She could have a big house. Okay,
you've said your mission is making dreams of reality. When
did you first believe this dream of yours could be
more than just a side hustle.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
I believed it when I first created it. I just
I set big shoes for Milano, divuge and like when
I used to tell people, I know they thought I
was crazy. When I started Milano, I used to do here.
I was a mediocre hare stylist and I was People
only came to me for like the advice because I
would talk to them while I was doing it here

(12:36):
and I would do I would take photos. When I
started Milano, I was my model. I was the stylist.
I was a photographer, videographer, web developer. I was doing
every role and any role, like any skill that I
acquired while I was growing my brand. I would call
myself this, So I was like, Oh, I'm a photographer, y'all.
Anybody want pictures for fifty dollars? Anybody want their website

(12:57):
done because I was trying to make money at the
same time. And I remember one girl was like, she's
a photographer, she's calling herself a stylist. Which one is
she And I said, whichever One'm gonna make me my
first million. So and to be honest, all of those
skills that I acquire along the way, it really helped
enhance my brand. And when I started to hire people,
I knew exactly what the role and tell, so I

(13:19):
knew when they weren't doing a job. I knew when
they were doing a job. It actually helped me to
become a better person. So all of those things along
the journey is really the journey. The joy is in
the journey.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
The journey is Okay, you opened your first flagship boutique
on Broad Street. What did that moment represent to you
personally and for the Milano Derouge brand.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
That moment for me, it represented a lot. It represented
to me that like a young black girl from the
hood could do anything, and I was proud of myself.
I remember opening their store and trying to build my team.
It was it was so many obstacles were opening their store.

(14:00):
That was like one of the first times. One of
my friends saw me cry and because it bloots what
in tears want in today? Like you think the journey
is going to be straight and know it's pivots, it's turned.
That's literally what these are lines represent on this dress.
This is from the Journey collection. Like these lines, these
are our dreaming, our journey lines. You think that the
journey gonna be straight and it's like no pivot, obstacle,

(14:23):
But I learned that obstacles are meant to be overcame
and opening that store. I knew that I did not
want a mom and pop shop. I knew that I
did not want to be just working in my shop,
so I drew my team. I remember writing my last
check and putting it in my bible in March twenty sixteen,
and I said, I'm not gonna pay myself. I'm gonna
use all of the money that I make to invest

(14:45):
in the company and invest in my team. And that's
what I did. And it wasn't until March twenty seventeen
that I catched that check that I put in my bible.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
So how many years did they keep that check?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
For?

Speaker 5 (14:54):
One year?

Speaker 1 (14:55):
One year?

Speaker 5 (14:56):
Because because of y'all, the people like y'all was supporting Malino.
It was like crazy. I appreciate y'all. So y'all was
I didn't know what I was doing, but y'all was
supporting and y'all don't you figure it out?

Speaker 7 (15:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Is this is the store still there?

Speaker 5 (15:09):
So I closed the store, and so during COVID we
closed and then we reopened in twenty twenty two, and
I closed it in twenty twenty three because I bought
a building like two doors down and I didn't want
to put no more money into the store that I
currently had because I didn't own it, and the building
that I bought, they were just giving me so such

(15:30):
a hard time was zoning, and they still giving me
such a hard time, and I'm like, okay, until I
get this building zone, I don't this store don't currently
represent where we are as a brand, and I don't
want to reinvest any more money in it. And once
this other building is zoned, I'm going to put my
linog booch back there.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
And still in the process of So you're still working
on getting the building zone.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Yes, it's zoned, yeah, zoning.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Yeah, so it's not zoned for it's for it's mixed use.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
But it's not we're trying to build. We want to
buy levels store and we want to build another floor.
So we got to go through a lot of process.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
So you still have another tough flawyer to work with. That.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
Yes, not an obstacle.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
So any prognosis of when that might so we got.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
To go through the historical committee. Yeah, they don't. They
don't really want us to build up.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
And if you can't build up, what will you do?

Speaker 5 (16:22):
If I can't build up, I'm trying to see. I
may open a store in Atlanta first and then come
back to Philly and do a store. Probably not there.
I may just rent that building out. It's worth a
lot of money.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Now, Yeah, you've probably made a lot of money on
the real estate for sure.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
And then I'll just probably see where else I will
go out here in Philly because I definitely want to
have my roots here.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
So you don't have any retail stores at the moment.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
Everything is online. I'm like the biggest store in the world.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
It's a good way to do and it's it's Milano
Deruge dot com yes, and that's where everybody shops. Yes,
and on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
And so you know you got shot from TikTok, Shop,
TikTok Live and Instagram.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yeah, okay, okay, So how did your time at the
Philadelphia Fashion Incubator, who is our host today of creating
this event in twenty fifteen shape your brand and business strategy.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
I feel like I learned the business behind beyond the business,
like I was in hustle mood when I first went
to the Fashion Incubator. I remember my first day applying.
It was in macy So we were inside of like
the customer service department, and it was this little old
lady and my clothes was on a wreck and I

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remember she was like, oh, these clothes are hideous, and
I'm like she was a customer though she was just
going to like put in her complaint. I'm like, oh
my god, I know I'm not gonna make it into
this program now, Oh my god, I'm ready to leave.
But by the grace of God was like that, and

(18:01):
I learned so much about the business. I remember being
in that program taking so many notes and at the
time some of the things that some of the advice
that was given didn't even apply to me. But I
would take so many notes because I knew that one
day it would and I would also share the resources
with anybody that was building at the time. Yeah, I
learned so much.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Just one that stays with you that you say I
learned that there.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
Yeah, just knowing like how the city, how the city
the resources from the city so that I remember they
had some of the city officials come and just showing
like it's like a security a camera security program. So
I'm trying to figure out paying for my cameras. How'm
I pay for my cameras and the city will pay
for your cameras. The city will pay for your the
front of your exterior and your story to get done.

(18:47):
The city would pay for some of the interior in
your store to get done. I didn't realize how many
resources was out there, to be honest. So it was
just so many resources that I've gotten from there.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah, it's been my experience at the Philly community in
the city has been very supportive of the fashion industry
here in all the years I've been coming to Philly
Fashion Week, There's so many opportunities. So that's great that
you learned that and took advantage of it.

Speaker 5 (19:14):
Well, I didn't take advantage of it because, yeah, because
I'm a tarist and I'm just like, when I want something,
I just do it because of the process. So but
if y'all do want it, y'all gotta know that it's
a process. But y'all can start the process now. But
once I knew it was a process, I'm all right,
I'll do a leader. I'll just stay for it up
on the front end.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
But yeah, fantastic. You built Milano Derusi into a street
whear powerhouse. How do you define luxury in the context
of your brand?

Speaker 5 (19:40):
Is the experience? Is the quality? I don't know if
anybody in this audience ever experienced Milano derouge, but the
quality is top tier. People say it feel like a
warm hug, like our denim, like we get our dinum
from Italy. The quality of our clothing is a phenomenal,
Like I don't know, do I got any Is there
any Milano dreamers here? Yeah, y'all, y'all can speak on equality, right,

(20:03):
And before the equality wasn't that great, So we had
supporters when it wasn't that good. And I knew that.
I knew, like, okay, I didn't let that stop me
because sometimes people want to have things so perfect before
they can start. And I know people now that from
twenty twelve, when I first started that was supposed to
start with me, they still didn't start because they want
things so perfect. I just started, and I learned as

(20:24):
I went, And I thank y'all for supporting me when
the quality wasn't that great, when it was just a message.
Y'all believe when it wasn't the best, and y'all was
a part of the journey, and y'all watched it grow.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
That's brave of you to keep going out there while
you're still refining it and working through it all.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
And I was criticized too well.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Who doesn't get criticized.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
Yep the best Yep.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Okay, you're not just building a brand, you're building a community.
Why has giving has giving back, especially to students and
moms been such a vital part of your business from
the beginning.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
So the ray of my mind raised me all always
gave back, even when we didn't have much. We would
literally just even like our old clothes, our own shoes,
will make sure like we write them down, put them in,
make sure they was up the part, and we'll go
back and give them to the good will. So like
I was just always raised to give back. I feel
like God blessed me to be a blessing to others,
so it's only right that I give back good for you.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
Can you also share what inspired you to start the
Mamma Mary.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
The Mamaeer Club. Say that again, Mamair.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
Club, mam and there. It's a hard word, Mama there.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
Can you say that the Mama Their Club. I started
the Mama Their Club when I was pregnant with my son.
I was learning so much and I didn't realize how
many options that we had. Like growing up in the hood,
you don't options not really presented to you. You just
feel like you gotta follow suit or whatever people say
you gotta do. And as I started to do my research,

(21:51):
I'm like, Okay, a lot of people could benefit from
this information that I'm research and so I would just
share all of the information that I was learning so
other people cann't realize that I got They got options.
It don't matter where you're from, it don't matter what
your income level is, you got options.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
So describe what the Mammon their Club is.

Speaker 5 (22:06):
So the mom and Air Club is a club for
moms that's on the mission that make their jreams in reality.
A lot of times when you have kids, you feel
like your world is over, and no, that's when your
world just begin because like the true blessing to your
children is a mom that's fulfilled, you know. So I
don't believe in stopping your dream for anything. You got

(22:26):
to figure out how to balance both. And I don't
like to say balance because when you think of balance,
you're thinking like this right, and you just never really steady.
I like to harmonize, like see how it can all
flow together. And I just think that as a mom,
you don't have to stop your life. Men don't stop
their life when they have kids. That's when they go harder.
And I feel like we can do the same thing too.
So that was that. It was just an encourage moms.

(22:52):
You got this. Listen, you got this. You done birth
the whole human and you figured it out. That's the
hardest job in the world. Nobody ain't telling me that
you have to figure that out. I'm sure you can
figure this business out, you know.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
You know you have Wharton in this city. I think
she's in her own Wharton business school here. You should
be doing a case study there. If they haven't invited
you yet.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
That would be nice. I did want to get an
honorary degree. I hear, have you asked for things that
come true?

Speaker 7 (23:22):
Guy?

Speaker 5 (23:23):
Are you listening?

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Somebody in this room must have a context follow through.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
On that, you'll hear the guy.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Mother, So, how old is your son now?

Speaker 5 (23:33):
He's four, about to be five years old?

Speaker 4 (23:36):
Anymore in the until I'm married. Yeah, and that'll be
a Papa Papa year club or something. Okay, you've you've
you've been intentional about storytelling and showing the behind the
scenes of your journey. Why was that transparency so important

(24:00):
to you?

Speaker 5 (24:01):
Because I feel like I believe that people want to
be like the most successful people they see. Again, I'm
always gonna go back to my roots. Like growing up
in the hood, a lot of people aspire to be
drug dealers or ncnas and c seals. Those were the
three jobs that I hear most people around me growing
up wanted to be. And that's because those were the

(24:22):
most successful people they saw, you know, So like when
you are in the hood, those are the lifestyles that
afford you to look good, but you're still in the hood.
So like, naturally you want to be like the most
successful people you see. And once I got on Instagram
and I started to see like the Girl Bosses, the Mings,
the karen Sivils. They was buying Bentley's and they was

(24:42):
like getting mansions and I'm like, oh, okay, it's another level.
I didn't see that, and when you don't see it,
you don't know that it's possible. But now yeah, so
I'm like, okay, I want to share my journey. I
want people to know what's possible. And when you see
a young black girl from the hood doing it, you're like, Okay,
I can see myself and her and if she did it,
I can do it too. I was very intentional about

(25:03):
doing it, and that was my goal. It was always
my goal to be able to inspire people because I
feel like it's so much talent in the hood, and
I think we get overlooked, and I think that we
just don't know what's possible. If we didn't know what's possible, man,
we would unlock it would unlock another I'm telling y'all
that's why I'm happy y'all here. I want y'all to

(25:25):
be here. Don't just be here. To be here, take
notes and apply it, because you gotta go home and
you gotta change your family.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Who are some of the other people you seriously, who
are some of the other people you aspired to follow
in their tracks?

Speaker 5 (25:41):
Beyonce y'all, And I tell you because I just see
how hard she work and I just feel like, yo,
like Beyonce, she's doing it. She's changing a game, and
the way she changed the game, the way she inspired me,
the way like just watching like whenever I do a
fashion show, I will watch her videos and just see
like I watched her documentaries and just just pumped me up,

(26:03):
like all right, cool, I'm about to take this, I'm
about to do this, I'm gonna make this happen. And
I remember having a fashion show. I had a sold
out fashion show with two sweatshirts, like literally just walking
down the aisle and I was mixing a mashing with
different pieces and I sold tickets and it was just.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Like, so how many times did those two sweatshirts walk down.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
The eye all back and forth back and for boy
it was it was. It was two designed sweatshirts and
T shirts, and I would just like mixing mats with
like suits and just showing you that you can wear
this T shirt and sweatshirt with anything. I had such
a belief in myself that I didn't care when no
one thought of me. And you gotta be type like
people can say you're crazy, but you gotta be crazy

(26:41):
to believe in a dream that nobody else can see.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
QVC, you're crazy if you don't take her.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
She can sell anything. Thank you so much, she can
sell anything. I want credit for signing her up. Okay,
let's see where am I here? Storytelling? Okay, collaborations. You've
collaborated with athletes, artists and influencers. How have they helped

(27:21):
shape the voice of your brand? But before you answer that,
I'm going to go back to Beyonce because when I
was at the CFDA, we used to have the CFDA
Awards and they'd be an after party for the younger
ticket buyers, and we always had some entertainment and we
had Destiny's Child when nobody knew who they were nobody,

(27:41):
and it was like who is this group? And they
all could not have been sweeter, you know. And years
later I did a fashion show on TV on Bravo,
was called Fashion Show on the season between Project Runway
being off the air because they were renegotiating, so it
was I mis Rahi Kelly Rowland and myself for the

(28:02):
judges for the series, and Kelly has been just a
sweetheart in a friend.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
I love Kelly. Yeah, yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
That's Mike a little be honest.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
Wow that's all. That's so dope.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Okay, back to now the athletes, artists, influencers who've helped
shape the voice of your brand. Tell us about some
of those, YAsO, I.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
Don't care about saying here and no, I would be
dming like celebrities, artists, anybody like, hey, I have this
brand Milano d vuge. It means making dreams reality. That's
what you're doing. Can I send you a package? And
some people say yes, we send it to him? Some
people said no, some people years later they will. I
remember one artist DM me like four years later, like

(28:48):
you still got that package? I said, I sure do.
So yeah. I would just message people like hey, I'm
trying to get my brand out here, like like you
don't ever know how to go. But I feel like
more importantly showing the customers. I always showed spotted the
Malino with my customers, and people like, you know, representation matters.

(29:09):
So when they see different people, different sizes. It really
helped grow the brand.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
So if I DM you'll send me a package of puns.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
I send you a package. Call my people. Absolutely, I
would love to have you in some line up.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
I look forward to that. Okay, you have over I
don't know if this is still the number. It's probably
increased since this was typed. You have over one point
four million Instagram followers.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
What advice do you have for creatives trying to build
a personal brand that feels both authentic and aspirational.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
I feel like the most important thing when building a
brand that's authentic is make it truly authentic to who
you are, Like everything that you love, put it into
your brand. When I started Malino dubuch I didn't really
just start selling shirts. I sold experience, Like everything I
genuinely love. I made it a part of my brand.
I always wanted to have my own magazine, so we

(30:07):
created an app, and with the app, we share motivational
advice every like every morning at ten am, you gonna
get motivational advice. I love to entertain, So we had
a fashion show every year except a few years because
of COVID, but we had a fashion show every year.
I love poetry. I like people from the hood like
we didn't really get the experience poetry, and I'm like,
all right, we gotta have this poet because I know

(30:29):
that we would love it. So everything that I genuinely love,
I tied it into my brand so that way I
can love. I can love waking up in the morning
to do it. You know, when I don't feel well,
I'm working hard because I genuinely love what I'm doing.
So the authenticity is because I made it me and

(30:50):
every obstacle, every challenge, I just embraced it in I
shared it. You know, it was a part of the journey.
So like, whatever it is that you're doing, if you
want it to be authentic to who you are. You
don't necessarily have to have a brand that represent you,
but if you do, just tie into things and the
elements that you love. Like sometimes people will be like,
people won't understand this, But your vibe will help you

(31:11):
find your tribe.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Your vibe will help you find your tribe. Write that down.
That's that's a good one. Hey, you you said you
got up early in the morning doing that. Tell me
about when you showed up at six thirty for photo shooting.
New York.

Speaker 5 (31:29):
Oh yeah, Alisa just reminded me. So we went to
with the Philly Fashion Incubator. We had a trip to
what was the name of that place, Fashion Snoops. So
we had a trip to Fashion Snoops to New York City.
And when I found out that we're going somewhere, I
still do this to this day. When I found out
there we're going to be in another city, I'm like, Okay,
I need to turn this into a business opportunity. So

(31:53):
I flew. I mean, I drove over the day before
and I planned a photo shoot. Probably within like a
few days. I plan the photo shoot and we got
up at six am. We started shooting on a subway
in New York City, and right after the photo shoot,
I darted to the program. I had to be there
by like nine am, and we just got it done.
Like I feel like I'm gonna take advantage. I'm gonna

(32:13):
miximize every opportunity. We had to find models in New
York City. Were just calling in the middle of the night,
Hey are you available. Models canceled on us, but we
got it done. And like even now, when I just
went to Lake Comos for my girlfriend's wedding, we did
a photo shoot in Italy. We just was in Tokyo.
I did a photo shoot in Tokyo. I'm literally like, hey, Millinal,
were just going to experience the world and everybody going
to experience it through Urland.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
So fantastic. What is something you learned the hard way
that you now consider a core business lesson?

Speaker 5 (32:47):
I'm actually learning it right now, just being on top
of everything. Like when I started Milino D I didn't
set out to be a CEO. I just it was
I'm just a hustler, you know, like I just wanted
to work hard and build my brand. But becoming a CEO.
Being a CEO, it requires a different level of attention,

(33:10):
and being on top of your numbers is so important.
It doesn't matter how much money you make, is about
how much money you keep, how much money you can reinvest.
So being on top of your accountants, being on top
of your lawyers learning what they learn. At first, I'll
just look at accountant's like a dentist, right your dinner,
Say you got a cavity, Okay, cool, fix it your accountant.

(33:31):
That's a different story. You know, you gotta be right
there on top of it. I'm like, don't just take
like really really sit and take the time to learn.
I love the creative part, right, I love the photo shoots.
I love the fashion shows. But when you're responsible for
feeding so many people, you gotta make sure you know
them numbers. You gotta be on top of your game.
Like things look good on Instagram, but you gotta make

(33:52):
sure things is good behind the scenes as well. So
just being on top of your stuff taking us time
to learn it, like even if it's take an extra
hour to sit down, Like, hey, I need to understand
exactly what this is. Being on top of your bankers,
like knowing that like they got your money, they owe
you the explanation. They got to tell you what they're
doing with it, you know, and not just having your
money sick, like invest your money, get stocks and bonds

(34:18):
and you know, like municipal bonds. I'm learning so much
different things about building wealth, and I feel like just
like I was just doing it and then I was like,
all right, God sent me down. Real story, true story,
February seventeenth. I fast. I went on a fast. I
did a dam's fast, and I prayed for clarity. I
prayed for God allowed me to be still and by

(34:40):
me being still. That was the first time I was
still in probably like the last twelve years, because I'm
always on go. My foot is always on the gas.
So me being still, I'm like, all right, my foot
is a neutral and I'm allowing myself to be able
to see everything for what it is and not me
controlling the outcome. And me doing this is allowing me
to see that like, sometimes you got their wrong people

(35:02):
in their wrong seats, sometimes you got the wrong people
on the wrong bus. It's like you got to re
evaluate everything. And that's where i'mt in my business right
now and just reevaluating things and just learning more. Like
I've learned so much in the past three months and
I've did over the past twelve years.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
You should clap for what she's saying right now. It's
I can't stress how important what she just said is.
Because so many creatives just want to be creative and
they don't pay attention to the numbers. They don't even
know how much it costs for them to make what
they make, what the fabric costs, what the trim costs,

(35:40):
what the time costs, what the people cost, you know,
and they just arbitrarily will put a price tag on something.
The numbers are it's all about.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
You're watching WPP MLP Philadelphia one O six point five FM.
We talk weeklies after they talk with your boy Charles Gregory,
the beautiful class lady in a beautiful lawrences. We'll be
right back, y'all.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
To learn that, to see the spreadsheets, understand them, and
know what the accountants and the bookkeepers and the bankers
are doing, because it's it's your money, and right now,
invest in real estate. Forget the stock market for a while,
but you know, because yeah, keep the buildings. It's absolutely

(36:25):
because it's a rocky time. And that's something you know.
I don't even have that question in here because it
wasn't an issue when I was writing this, like how
you deal with now what's happening with the tariffs and
with the with all the businesses and do you make
things overseas where.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
Yeah, we do make things overseas. And so I just
hired this amazing company uh d FMG and they're like, Okay,
we gotta we gotta get our stuff out of China.
We can't just rely on one one country, you know.
So we're looking at Bangladesh, Cambodia, We're looking at other
places right now.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Because all right, how y'all doing today, How y'all doing
you coming around of that, and so I just wanted
to give y'all a little taste. It's about fifteen minutes
left in the actual video that y'all can actually see
if y'all go to we Talk Weekly right now, we
Talk weekly dot com and go to my corners called
the Charles Gregory Fashion Corner. Scroll down a little bit,

(37:20):
you'll see the exclusive video, and so that way you
can make sure you see it uninterrupted. You can see
it without all of that stuff around it, as you
can see the exclusive interview.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Let me take that right down.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
But I wanted to just put that up because I
thought that it was a very interesting and dynamic conversation
with someone that was coming from Philadelphia Milane. I think
she did an excellent job in promoting and sparkling her brand.
It's a lot of people in Philly that actually supported her.
It was a very dynamic conversation, and I think that

(37:53):
was the first conversation I have ever heard interview I've
ever heard from her. And so make sure you go
to wee Talk weekly dot com and you'll see the
official video there scroll down you'll see Charles Gregory Fashion Corner.
Scroll down. That's the first video there that you can
watch them. Make sure you like and subscribe and all
that little stuff. And I just want to talk a

(38:14):
little bit about, you know, some fashion in Philadelphia. I think,
what shot and I talking that's my that's my homie
right there. We go way back like Boston, Big Beans
and Mike and Knights. You know what I'm saying when
I tell you, look, that's funny because this is the
right here. I'm on the little slide, this is the
right here. Was the first person I heard play like
Beethoven while I was in this was in high school. Now,

(38:38):
Like I'm like, yo, you gouts show me how to play.
And she was really good, So shout out. I ain't
forget that. But real quick, let's talk a little bit
about Philadelphia fashion. I think we talk about the Philadelphia
fashion scene. You know, we are underestimated, right, We are
a fashionable bunch here. And I haven't seen anyone or

(39:00):
any group of people or a city that was, you know,
pushing the limits like Philadelphia. Shout out to Philadelphia Fashion Week,
Shout out to Fashikan, which was the business incubator that
was promoted by that organization. Right that did an amazing
job in coordinating such a dynamic panel of influencers of

(39:23):
thought leaders, thought thinkers, of panelists of fashion entrepreneurs from
boutiques like Jones Shep. Shout out the Ellen Shep who
actually runs that right now, but shout out to just
Philadelphia doing a lot of the things that you're doing.
Shout out to FGI Philly. I'm actually part of the
border FGI Fashion Group International, So make sure you reach
out to that. Become part of the fashion who's who

(39:46):
in Philadelphia. And so that said, I want to talk
a little bit about something that's coming up and we'll
promote it a little bit more. I'm doing a met
gala bwing party right one of the faces of one
of the faces of my organization, fashion Television. It's called
Fashion to Be five TV, and Sabrina, you know, one

(40:08):
of the head faces of Fashion Be five TV, is
actually going to host this event. I'll post it so
y'all know where it is. We'll probably put them on.
We talked weekly, so you get all of the information
on it, but make sure you pay attention to that.
It's a viewing party for the mech dollars, So you
know you're gonna have to get cute your boyo Bdre.
All of who's who will be in there, and the

(40:30):
visual official invite list is only a couple of people.
It's not a lot. So once it come out, I
can't hold space. It's not a big space. It's private,
it's an intimate situation. So we'll make sure that you
will have the cameras there. We have class late Spark
and all the beautiful people there. Lawrences will maybe doing
some interviews and all that good old stuff. So I
want you guys to go anywhere because you already know

(40:52):
what's going on now, right, you ready, so I don't
hear you hold on, let me make sure you go
give me some sound check check one.

Speaker 9 (41:01):
I also want to shout you out say from you know,
we talked weekly in general, were always on you know,
always on board. But that was some great footage. That
was something that you were that you actually shot right,
Yeah you shot that.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Yeah we shot that. We talked in the building. F
we find was in a building. This is what we
out there in them streets. Absolutely, We're always out there
trying to get good old folks. That you might not
have been able to see, that you may not have
been able to witness. One want to make sure that
the people the chance.

Speaker 9 (41:31):
And I actually really enjoyed that interview. I like the
transparency that Malian has. I like that she just was
so open and very care free and candid about you know,
her upbringing, about her mom, about you know, just being
from the hood and things that she saw growing up,

(41:51):
and how she wasn't going to be a product of
her circumstances, like.

Speaker 6 (41:55):
The whole bit, like everything.

Speaker 9 (41:56):
She's definitely she's she's definitely somebody who who's uh, who's
made it from the bottom to the top, got started.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
From the bottom. Now we are right.

Speaker 9 (42:08):
I always said that though you can make it in Philly,
you know, they say that for New York, if you
can make it in Philly, you can make it anywhere.

Speaker 6 (42:16):
And I've lived in a lot of different places. And
it's the truth.

Speaker 9 (42:19):
It's the truth because you know how to talk to
certain people, you know how to de escalate certain things.
It's just it's just a way about us Philadelphians that
really is a resilience there.

Speaker 6 (42:31):
So shout out to man.

Speaker 1 (42:33):
So real quick before you jump into your stories. I
had a couple of people. Uh. She was like yeah,
no doubt. She was talking about that piano. I don't
forget you girl. We go back. Shout out to the Bobcats,
you know fl C and the building. Shout out to
Vernic because she said, yes, I'm here for it. I
think she's talking about the gallic experience. To make sure
you reach out.

Speaker 6 (42:54):
But you know, for the.

Speaker 9 (42:54):
Met galley, you gotta be different. It is not like
no ball gown type situation. It's come with it. Yeah,
there's gotta be something. It's like, well, where are you
going with that? Like, it's definitely a command the I
kind of situation, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
And my god, boom yo boom, what's shout? Yeah you
did miss it, my brother, we played it early. But
if you go to We Talkweekly dot com. The first
video where you go to you scroll down, go to
We Talkweekly dot Com. Scroll down you go see Charles
Gregory's Corner Fashion Corner. The first video is the uninterrupted
Clear video exclusive no one else seen yet. Were the

(43:31):
first ones to have it out there, so we're doing
it like that. So make sure you go like and
subscribe to page y'all, make sure that's how you support us.
Make sure you go right now, go like and subscribe.
We talk weekly. That's how we do it at the point.
That's how we do it in the pain.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
She said.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
FLC shout out. The FLC is definitely in the building.
This is what we do. You know what I'm saying,
shouting each other outfol shout out to Franklin Learner Center.
Franklin Learning Center is a unique school. I don't know
if you remember a fame Yeah, it was like that.
That's how cap Yeah, that's how. It's definitely like fame
in the building.

Speaker 9 (44:04):
You just saying fame though, it's like that's dated, he said.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Black Thought states the same Philly and Resilience says, you
can do anything as a New Yorker who grew up
as a man in Philly. You already know you already
know Philly, Philly. I mean we have special breed. Once
you come to Philly, you either love Philly or you
hate it.

Speaker 6 (44:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Yeah, so if you come to Philly and you love it,
you become a Philly Jon. You gotta say it right,
Philly people.

Speaker 9 (44:37):
Know you're from Philly to I don't care where you go,
how far south or how far north.

Speaker 6 (44:42):
They know when you're from Philly.

Speaker 9 (44:44):
Because New York got a different sound, they got a
different So Baltimore got a difference, you know, but Philly
just got that different.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
For really, you come to Philly, you stay in Philly,
you become a Philly Jones. Right, So listen, Philly is its.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Own like we own state.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Girl, tell understand what I'm saying. We're not talking about
we we are on state. We don't say we from Pennsylvania.
So if you say no, we don't say we in Pennsylvania.
If anything, Pennsylvania and Philly, and so we don't claim Pennsylvania.
We claimed Philly.

Speaker 6 (45:21):
What number one?

Speaker 1 (45:22):
I can't even you.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Hey, hey there we go, there we go where you
might get I would say.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
That what number you can you go to? Four? Can
you plug in four? Because I think that other mic
is on? And so listen, when we talked about I'm talking,
she said your zad, your fame dancing, and she talked
about f l C. Singing in the hallways, jumping on
the tables. We did everything you already know, like you
already know.

Speaker 9 (45:50):
Yeah, let's cheering anywhere we would we would be in
the cheer. We would we would out cheer any city.

Speaker 6 (46:00):
We were out jumped.

Speaker 9 (46:01):
I was on the jump in championship. And if you
turn flicted, we got a problem. So I mean, but yeah,
it's like it's just staples of Philly.

Speaker 6 (46:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Look, we spent time talking about I mean, listen, we
we a podcast, radio show, win television show, right, so
we can talk what we want to talk. Right now,
we just talked about Philly. So if the true the
truth when we say Philly versus everybody, that's what we
really mean. It's a doggy dog world out there. Remember
even your president shouted us out. Bad things happened in Philadelphia.

(46:34):
I mean, when the President of the United States of
America shout us out, we took it as a shout out.
We wasn't defended. Were just like, yeah, I mean, bad
things do happen in Philly. That's how we get down
in the paint, right, give me a shout out. Laurence is.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
There we go?

Speaker 1 (46:49):
There she there we go so so real quick. Now
that we got everybody's voice up, we got all the
mics up, let me see, lady ready for.

Speaker 6 (47:00):
Me, Yeah, I'm ready give it to me early. All right,
So this first one, see if you can find this.

Speaker 9 (47:06):
I got pictures, but if you could find the video,
I mean, it's like nothing you've ever seen before. So
what was supposed to be a farewell was tragedy struck
amongst cemetery in Philadelphia and Greenmount.

Speaker 6 (47:20):
So there was a group of paul bearers.

Speaker 9 (47:22):
They were carrying the sixty one year old Benjamin Avalle's
when his casket fell into the grave during his burial ceremony.
So video from the services shows the heartbreaking moment when
the family and friends they basically were carrying the casket

(47:42):
and then when they were carrying it, the entire support
system fell down. So Avil's son, who the man who died,
Benjamin aveillis his son got knocked unconscious underneath his father's casket. Yes,

(48:03):
that's why I said you should find this video art
he was he was unconscious.

Speaker 6 (48:09):
Did you do you have it all right?

Speaker 9 (48:11):
Well, he was found unconscious with his face forward, buried
under the weight of his father's casket, with his face
in the mud. Several of the pallbearers were left with
injuries to their legs and hands and back. But Marabelle Rodriguez,
that's the step daughter, she said that the platform did

(48:32):
appear wildly. So if anyone knows when you're going to
a funeral with the casket at the burial site, it's
usually like what platforms and and you know, like long
platform would so they always tell you to be careful.

Speaker 6 (48:47):
Well, that split in half the burial UH disrupted all.

Speaker 9 (48:54):
Everything, the emotional trauma that everyone experienced on that day.
So this was not a memory of the actual burial.
This is a memory of a tragedy that happened. So
our thoughts and prayers are with the Aveli's family.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
And shout out to Jane. She's just she just sent
the She sent the video from World Stars, so you
can see the actual video on World Star. She just sent.

Speaker 6 (49:21):
That's great to see that. It was it was very traumatic.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Wow, I appreciate you that.

Speaker 9 (49:26):
Yeah, So they're saying that they're gonna I believe they're
going to sue the funeral pallor as well as the cemetery.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Was it raining though, I don't believe you said facing
the mud. I think that it sounds like it may
have possibly been rained.

Speaker 9 (49:42):
But it honestly, there's a lot of funerals during the
UH during the rain, and they tell you that it's
usually because the you know, God is crying or whatever.
But it doesn't really have that much to do with
the wood, Like the wood has a they have metal,
and the have like the platforms.

Speaker 6 (50:02):
So that looks like that wasn't secure.

Speaker 9 (50:04):
Didn't seem like from the investigation that the wood was
warped or something. It just looked like they didn't have
it secure enough for people to walk on.

Speaker 6 (50:15):
But you did see it sizzle.

Speaker 10 (50:17):
Yeah, I did. And I saw how they were like
walking across and they were holding it and then once
they all got to a certain point, they all just
went down in every last one.

Speaker 9 (50:26):
And they said he was a big man too, So
I think maybe the weight was probably it was. It
was actually on Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 10 (50:33):
And when I saw it, and in the way Jimmy
Kimmel kind of put preface it, it was not funny
at all. I mean he tried to make a joke
out of it, like because he was just like that's
the way he was like when I when I go,
that's the way I want to go with all my
friends coming with me. I made like a little joke
about it, but it was like it was like it
wasn't funny.

Speaker 6 (50:54):
It was not at all.

Speaker 9 (50:58):
So what you what did you think of it?

Speaker 6 (51:02):
It looks pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I mean it's partially negligent sauce.

Speaker 8 (51:07):
But if you know, you got people out there coming
for you know, for you know, the bear of their
loved ones, it's up to you to make sure that
you know, obviously when they step on something, it's it's
going to be there because you know, it's a six
foot drop and those caskets.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Are not like right.

Speaker 9 (51:22):
So one thing I do know, because we were talking
about Philly che Chin, because they stilling and they're gonna
get you know, it doesn't erase the memory from you know,
their fathers, well, it does erase it to you know,
have it where they could have more in their father
in peace. But their father's like hey, you you know

(51:46):
you definitely there's there's going to be some type of
lawsuit against the funeral pallor as well as the cemetery.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
You know, they feel bad though, you know, I mean
I just feel who feel bad? The funeral people people,
the whole camera. Can you imagine an amount of business
they lost because yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Are worried about it. They're going to be in the
funeral along with it.

Speaker 9 (52:15):
Right, I mean think about it as the sun is
underneath his father's casket and he's knocked out. So now
you gotta figure out how to lift the casket back
out of the grave to get the sun from underneath
the casket.

Speaker 6 (52:30):
Who's unconscious. That's a that's a lot, that's a lot,
all right, Yeah, all right?

Speaker 9 (52:39):
Well this next story, I don't know. I hope I
got some good news up in here.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
Oh I know.

Speaker 6 (52:46):
Here, here's some more badness.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Now.

Speaker 9 (52:48):
This heartbreaking tragedy was in Bucks County, Pennsylvania. This is
where Amtrak train struck and killed three family members on
the tracks near Bristol Station.

Speaker 6 (53:01):
Did y'all hear about this?

Speaker 9 (53:04):
No one y'all heard about this? You did, okay, So
definitely give me what your thoughts are. Officials have identified
that the victims, fifty six year old Christopher Cramp and
his two sons, thirty one year old David Cramp and
twenty four year old Thomas Cramp, were all involved in
an incident near.

Speaker 6 (53:25):
Prospect and Breatherer Streets.

Speaker 9 (53:27):
So the police say that the officers were responding to
the reports of people that were on the tracks. A
police officer approached a southbound Amtrak train initially to be
reported going high speed that fatally hit all three individual individuals.
So what it's being said is that the younger son

(53:48):
was actually having a mental health crisis and his father
and brother were out there trying to get him off
of the tracks, and then the actual train was coming
so fast that it killed both of them. So the yep,

(54:08):
So the mother lost to her two sons I think
one just got married, and then her other son and
of course their father.

Speaker 6 (54:17):
That's devastating.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
That's you're looking at tons of weight that's moving like that.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
You can't even stop.

Speaker 8 (54:25):
That, even from me taking my CDL class, you cannot
heavy vehicle like that.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
You just can't stop.

Speaker 6 (54:32):
But it makes you scratch your head.

Speaker 9 (54:34):
Now, anything we're going to talk about is in theory
because things are still being investigated.

Speaker 6 (54:39):
But why didn't the father and the other brother jump
off like there wasn't.

Speaker 8 (54:44):
Enough say it again, or why didn't they lift him up?

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Right?

Speaker 6 (54:49):
And it was two of them, That's what I mean.

Speaker 9 (54:52):
So that's the part that's just like make it, like
I said, scratch my head, because like what what transpire
that they didn't get off the tracks in time?

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (55:03):
I mean, he was having a mental health crisis, So
you don't know if the young man was grabbing us, that's.

Speaker 6 (55:09):
What I mean, Yeah, because he could have been.

Speaker 8 (55:11):
It's probably why they got hit together, because he's trying
to grab them and take him off. Because once again,
even I mean, if they didn't hear the horn, those
trains are moving pretty fast and they really you really can't,
especially if you in that moment, like then you're trying
to get someone off, you.

Speaker 6 (55:25):
Can hear them tracks though you think that, but.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
I mean that's common I mean for us, that would.

Speaker 9 (55:30):
Be common sense, right well, but from what see said,
you think that like a person having a seizure doesn't
know because they're having a mental it's neurologic, so they
can grab the person in front.

Speaker 6 (55:41):
Of them, you know what I mean, Like when you have.

Speaker 9 (55:43):
Epileptic seizures, they tell you don't stand in front of
the person, just let them have their fit because they
can like choke you or something and don't know that
they have this lock y'all.

Speaker 6 (55:52):
So to your point, if he's.

Speaker 9 (55:54):
Having a mental health issue, do you think he probably
grabbed his loved one and then the other person whoever
wasn't grad was trying to release them and it could have.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Yeah, that's that's right.

Speaker 8 (56:06):
I mean, I mean it's so many different variables though that.
I mean that we probably didn't think of could think
of so many different variables of what could happen in
that moment, because you know, everybody in the moment at
reacts to something differently, so we could be saying how
we will react to it, but how like, you know,
how mentally strong were they able to actually to handle

(56:28):
something like that, because that's a traumatic moment.

Speaker 10 (56:31):
Yeah, and I think this young man was dealing with,
you know, mental illness for a while. The dad worked
in mental health for a long long time. A lot
of well, it was several people that spoke out about
the dad and how he was always there to you know,

(56:52):
at events. I forget it was mental health for I
think kind of like Philly has the mental health like
the Department of Bhrial Health and all that. It was
like it was a company, an organization I think, where
they are where he was working, and he was always
at the events and he was always helping people when

(57:15):
they would be doing outreach and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (57:17):
He was always there.

Speaker 10 (57:19):
So I think just hearing that story, I was tearing
up every time because I'm just like the dad trying
to help him, like his advocacy work and everything, like
he believes in supporting mental health and trying to get
him and then the other brother and just losing the
three of them is just horrible. So it's just so

(57:40):
important that when you see a family member, friend, or
somebody struggling with mental health issues, you look for those signs.
You know, when they start talking about saying little things
about you know, depression, if depression goes on for more
than two to four weeks or something like that, pay
attention to how you know, people are talking about sadness, depression, anxiety,

(58:04):
whatever it is, and just you know, try to motivate
people to get help because it's it's it's it's it's
just it's heartbreaking.

Speaker 8 (58:13):
And you know, to that, prayers up to the fan,
to the ones who lost their lives, and prayers up
to the family members, because, like she said, someone could
be going through something that could be like these little
slight signs. Some people may be crying out, but not
crying out loud, like I would say, silently, but loudly
crying out loud for help because they don't want, you know,
they don't want to be viewed a certain way. I mean,

(58:35):
I actually I've been through that, you know, losing a
lot of for INDs and most cycle accidents COVID and
then my mother, So I've been so I know what
that is to have to fight that. You know, some
people just don't want to speak out they won't be
looked at. And I would say in the African American
community US as men, you know, sometimes we could be

(58:57):
looked at a certain way, looked at as weak if
we speaking up.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
You know, really it's not weakens take strength to speak up.

Speaker 10 (59:03):
And it's a shame because it's such a stigma with that,
and it's also it's in other communities too. I've been
going through a lot of trainings with you know, mental
health support for law enforcement people in law enforcement, and
they talk a lot a bit about the stigma and
how a lot of people don't want to seek out
help because of the way they that they're looked at.
But mental health awareness and getting help is it's a

(59:29):
part of health care. The same way you go to
the doctors, the same way you go to the dentist,
is the same way you should be taking care of
your mental health.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Yeah, I had my gym. My therapist was the chill
every day.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
I want to shout out to Delena. She said, my
train from DC was delayed because of that.

Speaker 11 (59:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (59:49):
It was a lot of trains that, yeah, they work
and DC. Yeah, because I was downtown and I couldn't
get the regional rail because something was going on and
I'm like what And a lot of those trains is
were delayed that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Yeah, sure for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
Okay, all right, all right, this one I won't say that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
It's called good news and bad news. Alright, some classy ladies, Okay.

Speaker 6 (01:00:14):
This is bad news for writers. I guess good news
for Septa.

Speaker 9 (01:00:20):
So Septa just dropped a bombshell of budget proposal, so
it's causing a major stir downtown.

Speaker 6 (01:00:27):
They were out there protesting about it.

Speaker 9 (01:00:30):
Basically they're saying that, uh, they're going to do service
cuts for service cuts and then twenty one point in
a fair increase. Yeah, so that means that that right now,
I think it's like two forty cents to ride the bus,

(01:00:51):
so it's going to jump up to two ninety this fall.
Seat all right, so here's what's on the chopping block.
There's going to be thirty two bus routes eliminated. There's
going to be sixteen shortened. There's going to be special
services like express rods to the games that's going to
be gone. Five regional rail lines, including the Paoli, Thorndale

(01:01:15):
and Trinton lines, they're going to be cut. Even the
brit the broad Ridge Spur may disappear. There's a hiring
feet freeze starting in September. There's going to be no
new drivers or no new employees. And then come January
of twenty twenty six more cuts are going to roll
OUTCEPTA says that these lines run on the Amtrak territory

(01:01:37):
and they're shelling out over sixty five million dollars a
year just to use those tracks's drawn. Yeah, but yeah,
and you know what I realized now again we talk
about Philly, Philly. Back in the day, if you got
a job at SEPTA, if you got a job at
the post office, it was like these are career changing jobs,

(01:02:03):
Like this is something that would be And it just
seems like every time I turn around, because there's no
competition with CEPTA, that they're either they're always griping, either
a negotiation needs to be made or they're like we're
gonna go on strike.

Speaker 6 (01:02:17):
So what do you.

Speaker 8 (01:02:21):
Okay, all right, I'm not going to be along with this,
but this is my thing. You're doing all these cuts. Okay,
what about you? Let's start with the lines themselves. What
about the elderly that catches the train or the bus?
What about those people that live out farther, whatell of
those people? About those people that aren't making that much money?
So now you got to spend more money to get
to a job to where you're not making enough money?

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
How about that?

Speaker 8 (01:02:44):
You know that then you have every time it's an
increase in their fair it's an increase in the payment. Okay,
I understand you work for sceptor, You're getting paid a
lot of money. But at the same hand, at every increase,
the public is made to pay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
For that absolutely, So how is it?

Speaker 8 (01:03:01):
So what was the solution to helping people get to
work or to get to these jobs?

Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
Bring in another transportation company?

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
There you go, that's the because this.

Speaker 9 (01:03:13):
Is like the lifeline for Philadelphia and by them.

Speaker 6 (01:03:16):
But can you do that though, because I don't really
see other cities, metropolitan cities where they got more than.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
One Delna said, acceptism, monopoly, and you know the funny
thing is I heard a while ago when there was
another organization trying to do something scept that was complaining
about it. I mean they was going to court and
all type of things. They were actually pushing back a
little against UH. When Uber started, right, I think there

(01:03:45):
was conversation that some jobs were going to start having
Uber kind of on a payroll to get some of
their employees to the job or something like that. I
think I heard something like that, and that was a
big deal. And I just don't get it between sept
between the parking authority, between all these people taking money

(01:04:07):
from the folks, I have a problem.

Speaker 8 (01:04:09):
But you know, the other thing is that if you
look at some of the writing on if you get
any notifications or any citations, look at it. It doesn't
say Philadelphia. A lot of them say Delaware. Oh say
company out of Delaware especially. I believe it's on the boulevard.
I probably gotta do some more research on it. On

(01:04:30):
the boulevard if you get a ticket from the light cameras,
the red light cameras, or the speed cameras, I believe
the company that manches that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Hardware is out of Delaware.

Speaker 9 (01:04:42):
I'm not surprised because when you're doing LLC's holding companies
in Delaware, they don't have the state the taxes on it.
So that's why a lot of people create their businesses
from out of out of Delaware.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
It's getting crazy and then they don't want to even.

Speaker 8 (01:04:59):
Like, like when you go to Vegas, Vegas, I believe
believe a lot of the buses and stuff in Vegas
run off of clean energy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
I believe they run off of propane.

Speaker 8 (01:05:08):
Yeah, that's why when you go out there you don't
hear anything even like it drives me crazy, seventy six
right right, that's because they're using a cheaper compound of asphalt. Wow,
which is why we have always these potholes central.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
To your car up.

Speaker 6 (01:05:26):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (01:05:27):
I didn't know that they didn't use like regular gas.
They're using like ethanol or something.

Speaker 8 (01:05:35):
I believe so forkless or most forkless are runoff of propane,
and I believe they use the same technology for that
for their buses, which is why if you go out
there you don't really see any small from the buses.
That's one of the reasons.

Speaker 10 (01:05:49):
That's something well, I know Seth that did have some
buses that they were making them eco friendly. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
they were doing that at some point. But but I'm
wondering how much of this Well, of course, I know
this has a lot to do with like the federal funding,
because I know Governor Josh Shapiro was trying to divert

(01:06:14):
some funds from I believe federal highways or something like
that to SEPTA because I mean, SEPTA does need a
lot of work.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:06:27):
So yeah, as far as where that is at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Is just Shapiro for president, man, we need him president.

Speaker 10 (01:06:36):
Well, he's doing a lot.

Speaker 9 (01:06:38):
Hopefully SEPT can hear what the people are saying too,
as you know, like it's a community lifeline, so I
think that.

Speaker 6 (01:06:48):
Yeah, all right, y'all ready for.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Another good news or bad news that's the name of
the segment, news or badness.

Speaker 9 (01:06:56):
All right, this one is not such good news whereas
and have you noticed this is all Pennsylvania focused, right.
We talked about the train road the training tragedies, Yeah,
that happened in Pennsylvania. Then you had the Paul Bearers Pennsylvania.

(01:07:17):
Then we talked about septas.

Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
It was in Philly.

Speaker 9 (01:07:20):
And this one is a Pennsylvania judge. So a Pennsylvania
judge named Sonya McKnight. She's fifty eight years old and
she has been convicted of a tempted homicide and aggravated
assault for shooting her ex boyfriend Michael McCoy in the
head as he slept.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Oh my god.

Speaker 9 (01:07:40):
This shocking event happened back in February of twenty twenty
four at the ex boyfriend's home. Prosecutor says that McKnight,
who's a judge, was fueled by jealousy and she opened
fire after being repeatedly asked to lead the home so
the victim couldn't see his attacker. He did testify that
McKnight was the only person in the house. The jury

(01:08:02):
only took two hours to convict her. McKnight, who had
served as a Dolphin County judge since twenty sixteen, was
already being suspended without pay due to an earlier misconduct,
and this wasn't her first shooting incident she was She
wasn't charged in twenty nineteen, but she was involved in

(01:08:24):
shooting her estranged husband. She is now facing up to
six years in prison. She was taken away in handcuffs
immediately after her conviction, which her sentencing is set for.

Speaker 6 (01:08:36):
May twenty eighth.

Speaker 9 (01:08:38):
So this case raises urgent questions about how we vet
and hold those empower accountable.

Speaker 6 (01:08:46):
What are your thoughts on this?

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
I think just deserved my, Judge, Judy. Hold on, Judge Judy,
highlight and real Christ story is blown me. You people
must be idiots. What are you doing?

Speaker 11 (01:08:57):
Are you people out of your mind? Are with any clue?
Your conduct is outrageous?

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Yo, Thank you, Judge Judy. She is that woman needs
to be thrown and she was a judge. Shout out
to Judge Judy for giving me that work. Judge, you
to give me that work.

Speaker 9 (01:09:19):
I just don't understand how well. I don't want to
say I don't understand. It had to have been something
for her to throw her whole life away, and I
have self control with her boyfriend. Ye see, we don't
know her story.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
That's all I was about to say. We don't know
her story, and I don't care about it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
I don't care about it.

Speaker 9 (01:09:42):
Crazy, that's cuckol, crazy shot him in the eye.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Let me rewind. Let me rewind. That was crazy. Let
me just say that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Hold on, power. I'm gonna let you finish, but.

Speaker 6 (01:09:56):
One story is blown me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
You people must be idiots. What are you doing?

Speaker 11 (01:10:02):
Are you people out of your mind?

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Are you just so with it?

Speaker 11 (01:10:06):
Any clue your conductor?

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
So now it comes into effect. What's she drunk? I
don't care.

Speaker 8 (01:10:17):
I mean that people that's come on's These are things
that people want to know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Wait wait are you giving her an excuse?

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:10:25):
Hell, no excuse. I want to know what happened. I
want to know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
I need to put you in jail for jails.

Speaker 6 (01:10:39):
What do you think? What do you think about that story?

Speaker 10 (01:10:43):
I mean, the first thing that came to my mind
is that, like, you have this whole career, do you
do you know how long it takes to get to
the status that I like, you want to throw this
away over a man?

Speaker 5 (01:10:55):
Right?

Speaker 9 (01:10:55):
And she's in law, so she knows what they're going
to be looking at exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
The other thing is is what else has she done
that was covered up?

Speaker 8 (01:11:05):
Because this could these two things that because you know,
things happened before we even hear it is just be
swept up under the rud.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Okay, and good question.

Speaker 9 (01:11:13):
So my question for Sizzil because you know, you know
the the justice system.

Speaker 6 (01:11:18):
Because she's now being convicted.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Because I think you're about to go down the road
I'm thinking.

Speaker 9 (01:11:23):
About, does that mean they have to through a fine
tooth comb through all of her convicted clients that she's
convicted during her seating to see if because of the
person that she is.

Speaker 6 (01:11:40):
That's exactly what.

Speaker 10 (01:11:43):
They don't necessarily have to do that, but they could
if a convicted defendant says, I want my case to be.

Speaker 9 (01:11:55):
Like, you know, the lawyers are going to be on
this exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Especially if he's a man. That makes me think.

Speaker 9 (01:12:06):
Because the husband she wasn't convicted and then now this one,
and while he was sleep meaning that whatever it was, Yeah,
it's like he wasn't enticing you. So it's not a crime,
like if somebody's running in their back. So if he's
sleep whatever it is, could have allowed you to leave
or yeah, exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Be interested to see.

Speaker 10 (01:12:31):
Yeah, because anybody could say like, hey, I want my
I want to file an appeal for my case because
I feel like I was wrongly convicted. Oh wow, because
she obviously had some prejudice against men, or you know,
they can raise that argument and that trigger.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
You know, it's always a big elephant in the room.

Speaker 8 (01:12:51):
Uh, who she is and why is she getting away
with this? That's always going to be the big question,
the big el in the room, because you know, if
it was you know, I'm trying to be pg what you.

Speaker 6 (01:13:06):
Call yeah, wait what you're saying?

Speaker 8 (01:13:08):
Yeah, And sir, I'm saying so like anything us in
our black community, like we are black men, I would say,
are ten times more our stuff for us is more
crucial for slapping somebody a white guy getting for us,

(01:13:29):
we might get like ten years. So my thing is,
what's going to happen to her? Why hasn't this you know,
why hasn't the first time that it happened. Why haven't
we heard it as? Why was she in jail over that?

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
You know?

Speaker 9 (01:13:42):
So okay, And with that thought to what Sizzil said,
even if a person says I want to appeal it
because I feel like she gave more time as a
sentencing judge, they can even argue that that they felt like,
oh he gave she gave twenty years.

Speaker 6 (01:13:58):
What I did?

Speaker 9 (01:13:59):
You know, evidence is there, but it was it was
five years I should have gotten.

Speaker 6 (01:14:03):
So they can even appeal on time on it. Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:14:07):
And the thing is a lot of that is already
going on because of Meek Mills Act forty four that
he that he was able to get past for probation.
So they're already going back and reviewing cases that where
the person was given an excessive amount of probation time,
you know, an excessive probation sentence because of you know,

(01:14:31):
I hate to get into names and cases, but you
had some judges that were like, look out this window.
How many pigeons? Count the pigeons on the on the
building and the person count on this know that the
court clerk counts, and they're like, oh, it's thirteen pigeons
on the thirteen that's how many years of probation. You go,
oh wow, So it doesn't fit the crime or the

(01:14:53):
conviction that they got.

Speaker 9 (01:14:54):
It's almost random, exactly exactly like you're putting a price
on a product and saying, hey, I'm gonna charge you
twenty dollars for this, but you didn't you're not telling
me why this is twenty dollars exactly. You just threw
out of Oh that's yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:15:08):
So what would you say would be like, what do
you feel is going to happen in these next few
months going?

Speaker 10 (01:15:15):
Since they passed the bill.

Speaker 8 (01:15:17):
Since they passed the bill, And you know, with all
this different information, like as far as the community, as
far as like the legal system, you know, what do
you think is going to come out of us?

Speaker 10 (01:15:25):
So they already have a process right now that they're
going through. I forget the date that they have to
And this is all across the state. This isn't just Philadelphia.
Other states are reviewing cases to see which case is
qualified for early termination. So several cases have already are
already been terminated early. There are there is criteria that

(01:15:51):
the person has to fit. They can't have any violations
within the last six months of the time that they're
being citing for early termination. Uh, they have to be
within fifty percent completion of their probation term. So there's
a couple of different things that they're looking at when
it comes to the early termination. But you know a

(01:16:14):
lot of cases are eligible and they're being terminated early.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
So okay, still still pretty messy situation.

Speaker 10 (01:16:23):
Yeah, And for those of you who are on probation,
you can contact the Public Defenders Association to see if
you are eligible for a termination or your probation officer.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Oh wow, that's what I like, he said, Is it
a certain number or something that they like a website.

Speaker 10 (01:16:40):
Yeah, well, the for Philadelphia, the Public Defenders Association numbers
two one, five, five six, eight thirty one ninety two
one five, five six, eight thirty one ninety three one
nine zero nice.

Speaker 9 (01:16:57):
And they can go there to see about getting their
probation decreased or eliminated after this new law.

Speaker 6 (01:17:05):
Oh yes, awesome, Okay, all right, well this, yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:17:11):
This next story, I think it's I think it's I
think this is the good news.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
If you have to think this is good news, this
is good news.

Speaker 6 (01:17:26):
No, because that's what this is. This is good news,
all right.

Speaker 9 (01:17:30):
I don't know if if I say this name Chris Jenkins,
do y'all remember Chris Jenkins.

Speaker 10 (01:17:35):
I don't sound familiar.

Speaker 9 (01:17:37):
It sounds familia because this is the Villanova star who
hit the buzzer beater in twenty sixteen to win the
national championship. So that shot made history, and it made
millions of dollars for the nc double A and Villanova.
But guess what, Chris Jenkins didn't get a dime.

Speaker 6 (01:17:58):
He didn't see any money me as a college basketball player.

Speaker 9 (01:18:04):
Now he's suing the n c A A and six
major conferences for blocking athletes from getting paid during his
time in college. He says that they broke the anti
trust laws by limiting his ability to profit off his name, image,
and likeliness. They were actually making money off of those things,

(01:18:26):
but wouldn't allow him to.

Speaker 6 (01:18:31):
YEA, So this is good news, right, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:36):
So well this is that good bad stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:18:38):
This is good news about we know he getting plaid.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
We're gonna so you know that, uh, those n I
L deals right, well, he probably well a lot. They're
going to court for a lot of this.

Speaker 6 (01:18:57):
Yeah, because they they passed the law.

Speaker 9 (01:18:59):
Now, so Jenkins, he opted out of the two point
eight billion dollar house versus the NCAA, which I believe
you were talking about settlement to file on his own.
So because they're going to court what he was just
talking about, he opted out and he's doing his own case.
He said, I haven't played college basketball in eight or

(01:19:21):
nine years, and the shot is still being replayed and reused,
and I haven't been compensated in any way, shape or form.
He also says missing out on the NIL money set
his family back financially. Despite the face of one of
the NCAA's most iconic moments, the NCAA has declined to comment. Yeah,

(01:19:45):
if y'all look at that video in twenty sixteen when
he hit the buzzer like it literally was a neck
to neck and he had to hit that winning basket
in order for them to win the championship. And they're
still using that and Villano do you do you know
the Villa nova.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Is like, come on, they got the bread.

Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
Come on.

Speaker 6 (01:20:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:20:06):
So so now that I got a question, I got
a question. This Okay, it's a little one. So now
you said they did they say, Now if I hear
you said, offered a billion dollar house or something like that.

Speaker 9 (01:20:17):
He opted out the two point eight billion because the
house is going against the NCAA in the settlement. So
it's other other there's other athletes who are also suing,
like se what's saying with their likeliness and everything that
we're being used and they didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:20:34):
Get paid for it.

Speaker 9 (01:20:35):
So he opted out of being included in that so
that he can do it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:39):
On his own.

Speaker 8 (01:20:40):
And this also is a note to other athletes playing,
because you know, you have a lot of athletes today
that are like their faces are all over the TVs
when it comes to the games and stuff like that.
So maybe that's something because if I'm if I'm correct,
then they they they weren't allowed to accept a money
or anything.

Speaker 9 (01:20:58):
Right, but now they have because of this, Like now
they have passed it where but it's it's also to
the point where I think it's also to the point
where if if you're if I can't use it, neither
should you.

Speaker 6 (01:21:13):
Then that's it.

Speaker 9 (01:21:15):
If you if I'm not getting paid off of it,
why should you get paid?

Speaker 6 (01:21:18):
Like it just doesn't make sense.

Speaker 8 (01:21:20):
Right, So go ahead, go ahead, I say, because it
gets the university even more money. It gets the university
more looks, and that's what they want when they go
to if they go to the NBA or the NFL
or anything like that, they're looking at where that athlete
came from, scouts and everything. So maybe this is also

(01:21:40):
a good point or tip for you know, other athletes.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
So I'm gonna play this under fair use. This is
fair use because we're reporting a story, and so you know,
they they they get funny about they get funny about running,
especially since this is so this was March Madness, right,
and this video shows the story that class Lady Sparkle's

(01:22:04):
reporting on. Right, And so before I play this, this
is this is my thing. Now. You know, if we
play this, they can quote unquote suit us for playing
something that somebody else. Actually you robbed somebody else with, right,
And so that's why I gotta make sure that we're okay.

Speaker 9 (01:22:24):
Also give I guess that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
Chris Jenkins twenty six week giving credit to this brother
for doing this, and it's an amazing shot. Let me
let me go ahe and put this up.

Speaker 10 (01:22:36):
In credit to March Madness. We don't own the rights to.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
Thank you that absolutely absolutely, So here we go. Let's
play this real quick. I wanta try to see this
or three seconds gips it to chickens.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Look at that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Look I just got chilled. Look at I'm going crazy
over it.

Speaker 6 (01:22:58):
Was three seconds money, right, So.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
So this is and and I'm explaining why this is
such important because one look at but I want you
to see how the entire arena went right. This is
why this particular clips get showed over and over and

(01:23:22):
over and over again, right, and so underfair use. We
we're reporting the story, so we're only showing this under
fair use and so amazing shot. Shout out to Chris
Jenkins because he needs his credit for such an amazing
shot under that much pressure, And honestly.

Speaker 10 (01:23:42):
I only watch Mars Madness, watch mar Yeah yeah, And
then how often does that happen in a player's career.

Speaker 6 (01:23:52):
To take you to the championship. This wasn't even like
a regular gu championship.

Speaker 9 (01:23:57):
There was three seconds left on the clock and he
makes it exact.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
Come on, and you hear his name Chris, so you
know they can't It's impossible to deny at this.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Point, man, Chris Jenkins deserve.

Speaker 9 (01:24:15):
Well, that was your good news right there, and your
bad news from your girl class lead Sparkle.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
That was your good news and bad news, Lady Sparkle,
Beautiful Sparkle, beautiful l My power were in the building, y'all.
So I don't want y'all go anywhere. When we come back.
We got uh, we got we gotta be ready for
the sizzle. Yeah, she said, we're ready for the sizzle.
Let me cut to should we go to one of
Let's go to Ella talking a little bit about ucific news.

(01:24:43):
You know, we had the opportunity to, you know, uh,
work with some of these young folks that's doing some
great stuff for porting and doing some stuff out there
that's specific to cific engagement they're collaborating and researching and
doing the things that they're supposed to do when staying
out of trouble. And that's why we love the youth.

(01:25:03):
Will be right back, y'all.

Speaker 7 (01:25:06):
Hi, I'm Ella Gwanza.

Speaker 6 (01:25:07):
I'm reporting for YU Civic News today.

Speaker 5 (01:25:09):
I'm just gonna show you our Sunday routine on how
everything goes down.

Speaker 6 (01:25:16):
So here we're on the second.

Speaker 7 (01:25:17):
Level and you see I see building here.

Speaker 4 (01:25:22):
We do a lot of film productions, film programming, alet
of learning and hands on activities.

Speaker 7 (01:25:29):
So and one of the reasons I'm about to show
you is where some of the students are doing their beats,
which are their stories.

Speaker 5 (01:25:37):
So right now they're.

Speaker 4 (01:25:37):
Researching some things and just figuring out their lives and
all their fun things that they're gonna say.

Speaker 7 (01:25:44):
And then in the next room is what we're gonna
be film. So right now they're getting the cameras ready
and all the other equivalents of one of our film
Everything will go smoothly on perfectly. I have Aligan's reporting
for Uclivic News. Back to your program.

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Usivic News sizzels putting the things together to see how
we can make sure that this thing happens throughout the
year consistently, to try to have these youths actually reporting
and doing their researching in their beats and all that
good old stuff to make sure that they can be
the future or the next up to be.

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All right, So our forever first Lady Michelle Obama, she
is addressing rumors that she and President Barack Obama are
headed for divorce. Y'all need to stop so well appeared
on the Work in Progress podcast was Sofia Bush. So
Michelle said, they couldn't even fathom that I was making

(01:28:08):
a choice for myself, That they had to assume that
my husband and I are divorcing. That this couldn't be
a grown woman just making a set of decisions for herself.
But that's what society does to us. So these rumors
seemingly started to swirl after Michelle Obama was visibly absent

(01:28:28):
from former President Jimmy Carter's funeral and President Trump's inauguration
earlier this year. So Michelle Obama continues to shatter the
glass ceiling with her philanthropy work for young girls. The
two books that she's written, Becoming and The Light We Carry,
both Michelle and Barack Obama's Netflix movie and TV deals,

(01:28:50):
the latest project being a dating series called The Later Daters.
So I'm definitely gonna check this out. This follows six
adults over the ege aage of fifty, in their dating
habits while it's incorporating their children. So you know, Michelle
Obauma was already talking about you know, she was kind
of like tearing up with things episodes, So you know

(01:29:12):
that's going to be good. So make sure you guys
go and check that out. But y'all need to quit
it with this. Can you imagine like Michelle and Barack
getting a divorce, like I can.

Speaker 6 (01:29:23):
Be together over thirty something?

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:29:25):
I actually watched Later Daters too, you did already. It
was it was good, It was all right. I can't wait.
But I love Michelle.

Speaker 9 (01:29:35):
I love her, and I'm getting choked up because or
trying to find my words because she definitely inspired so many. However,
not that I think they're getting a divorce, but I
feel like she should have been there to support her
husband with the inauguration.

Speaker 6 (01:29:51):
I really do.

Speaker 9 (01:29:51):
I think that it just didn't give a good look,
even if that was her own decision, and it's like, Okay,
who are you making a good look for. It's just
being supportive of him because he's going. He's showing support
regardless of what he had. He showed up because if
he was like, babe, I ain't going, I'm not even
gonna go. But but I just.

Speaker 10 (01:30:10):
So she should have held him down with the when
the two two and walked in together.

Speaker 9 (01:30:17):
I think so I would have. I would be like, yo,
were going through the mud together. My husband's going into
the quick saying and I married you with the vows
and I'm I'm you.

Speaker 6 (01:30:26):
We're no longer two people, We're one. So yeah, we're
gonna walk down.

Speaker 9 (01:30:30):
I ain't gonna speak about gona hold my head up
high and be like, oh he got me here because
I'm supporting him.

Speaker 6 (01:30:36):
But I really think she should have been there. That's
just my personal opinion.

Speaker 10 (01:30:39):
Now what I would say to that, I think if
she was going to anything to support him, as should
have been the funeral, but Jimmy Carter's funeral, like she
should have went to that versus the inauguration, because she
probably told Barack don't go.

Speaker 6 (01:30:55):
I'm quite sure, don't you go to that.

Speaker 9 (01:30:57):
Well, let's just say this to play fair, she should
have went to one of them. She didn't want to
be around them people. She said, I can't stomach them.
I do not want to see them. I don't want
to breathe the same air. She was just it was
just grotesque to even just show up. But one of them,
just one just for him, heck with everybody else, with

(01:31:18):
everybody else, would have felt thought or even if she
couldn't stomach to see them, it should have just been
there for him.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Advocate.

Speaker 8 (01:31:27):
So what if Obama was like, you know what, big,
don't come tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:31:46):
Again. I think I really think Obama was.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Old. You know, I got to deal with these people
out here. I don't want you to come out here THELF.
I don't want you to stay here and just you know,
shut out a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
Look, look, Delena said, Look she uh, she said she
she was just protecting her peace.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
That's what she said.

Speaker 9 (01:32:19):
That's what she said, that's why she ain't got But
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:32:23):
You don't have peace by yourself no more.

Speaker 9 (01:32:25):
Honestly, when and and when you're married, that's a part
of that.

Speaker 6 (01:32:29):
That's the part of saying, you know what, I don't
have peace.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
But when you become a public figure, everything is public.

Speaker 6 (01:32:37):
But that's probably what she said.

Speaker 9 (01:32:38):
She probably said, we're not public figure no more because
you're not in the White House.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
But no, if he's if he's still touring, I touring,
writing books, all at your public.

Speaker 10 (01:32:50):
Figure, and I'm I'm gonna just say this, you know,
a lot a lot of stuff that our current first
lady does not show up to. She gets no backlash
and smoking none at all. Yeah, none at all. And
then like you know, I saw where they were there,

(01:33:11):
you know, weeks into this this presidency, they're trying to
put her more into stuff because I was seeing like
there were conferences where he, you know, President Trump was
at the table and he's you know, talking, and she's
sitting right there. I'm like, what is she doing right there?

(01:33:32):
I've never seen like if Barack Obama is doing press conferences,
Joe Biden is doing press conferences. I've never seen their
wife sitting right there, like they walk in together and
they're sitting in the audience, but right at the table.
I'm like, this is a stunt, like I've never seen anything.

Speaker 8 (01:33:51):
Always I'm gonna say this, It's always going to come
to this black excellence. It's always going to come to
our strong Melanie women that every time, no matter what
y'all do, it's always going to be something said all
the time, all the time. So shout out to our

(01:34:11):
black queens, our melan ad queens, because it's always gonna
be something said about her, no matter what.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
No matter what, Like to your point, like, no matter.

Speaker 8 (01:34:21):
What she do, they always gonna say something, they're gonna
talk about it.

Speaker 10 (01:34:26):
And I just feel bad because I know she went
through a lot, and it's kind of like I was.
I was actually not even to go down this rule,
but I was even surprised that Pence wife was there.

Speaker 6 (01:34:39):
I just feel like.

Speaker 5 (01:34:41):
She did not.

Speaker 10 (01:34:43):
She she had no no, she had no comment.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
You know, they ain't gonna open that box.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
Yeah, she said, Alena said, unless her man say it's okay,
baby love. Look look baby love is so okay. You know,
whatever she feels, whatever he feels like, I mean, look,
people got their marriages and whatever happened in their marriages
is their business. We don't know what Barack said, right,

(01:35:11):
I know what he did say that. I was offended
by you don't be going to no black men pointing
and wagging your finger talking about Yo. You're dead wrong
for that. I'm gonna leave it there.

Speaker 6 (01:35:22):
What did you do?

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
This was doing it.

Speaker 8 (01:35:24):
I'm just I'm but I'm gonna say what he said.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
Yeah, baby, what you'll never find alright.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
So so Denia said, yep, damn. If we do, damn.
If we don't, so do what makes you happy? You
don't get a rind of the plus.

Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
All right.

Speaker 10 (01:35:43):
So Carrie Hilson, she appeared on The Breakfast Club to
promote her upcoming album We Need to Talk, when she
was asked if she regretted the Beyonce say This song
turning Me on the remix. So Carrie did admits to
admit that she regretted it, and she states that she
arrived she describing what happened that day they went to record,
and she said the polo the don was telling her,

(01:36:05):
come on, come on, you need a record. So she
arrived at the studio and he played the song for
her and she was kind of hesitant about singing it.
But Carrie claims that she was forced to sing the
song or her album wasn't gonna come out, so she
was kind of put, you know, in that position, so
she said. At the time, Carrie was signed to Polo

(01:36:26):
the Don and Timbaland through a joint venture under Enderschool Records.
So after all the backlash from the song came out,
Carrie said that she didn't want to oust pol of
the Don or Esther Dean who actually wrote the lyrics.
So for those of you who don't remember what the
infamous lyric was, lyrics were that Carrie had to sing.

(01:36:48):
She was She said, your vision cloudy. If you think
you're the best, you can dance. She could sing, but
she needed to move it to the left left. She
needed to go have some babies. She need to sit down.
She faked them. Other chicks ain't even worth my time
to talk about. Ben had dollars. Boy, go on, get
your money up. Know you ain't the only homie on
me lined up. I ain't turning it off. I'm staying

(01:37:10):
turning it on. Go ahead and tell tell these folks
how long I've been writing your songs. I've been putting
you on get the Just check the credits, can I say,
ho e, just just check the credits and if you
want to find me, if you if you want me,
you can find me a decayed whole because you're turning

(01:37:32):
me off.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
So I don't have a shot.

Speaker 10 (01:37:38):
So immediately everybody was like, oh, she's talking about Beyonce
and that's how it, you know, it blew up and.

Speaker 9 (01:37:44):
It just was like and she got blackbaught that she
got after Pretty Girl Rock.

Speaker 6 (01:37:50):
I don't remember.

Speaker 10 (01:37:51):
She had a couple little hits after that, but it
was just like she got shut down and she was saying,
like Polo the don and timbling. They went on to
work with jay Z and Beyonce and she just got
shut out.

Speaker 6 (01:38:03):
But why she come for me? I did be come
for her first?

Speaker 10 (01:38:06):
Well she what she's saying is she never even wrote that,
but she was forced to sing it. So it was
just like when she went to the studio esther Dean
was already there and she had already wrote it, so
she just started singing it and she was like, I
don't know about this, and they kind of forced her
into like, oh you gotta sing it or your your
whole album is not.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Track.

Speaker 6 (01:38:29):
Yep.

Speaker 10 (01:38:29):
And she went with it, and she went with it,
and that's what she said. She regrets about doing that song.

Speaker 8 (01:38:35):
Oh so she see what do y'all think about that?
What do y'all think about that? How true do y'all
think that is?

Speaker 10 (01:38:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:38:46):
I'd have been like, I'm a reschedule for tomorrow.

Speaker 9 (01:38:49):
Hey, be let me set you know something, do this this.

Speaker 6 (01:38:56):
I don't know, Like I ain't telling you no, I'll
be bad.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
Let me make a call real quick, like I'm gonna
let you all finish.

Speaker 9 (01:39:03):
But yeah, I don't know, like they making you drink
kool aid or I don't know, or drink poison telling
you it's kool aid.

Speaker 10 (01:39:12):
But the thing is, that's what the industry does with women,
especially because like if you look at the little beefs
that have come out, Like I remember it was some
controversy with Low Kim and Nicki Minaj when I think
I can't remember the whole story right now, but I
think they were trying to either do something together or
Nicky was going to do a song and they were

(01:39:33):
supposed to give it to Kim and like it's kind
of like seems like they strategically set those things up
so that there is a beef because who does that
benefit the label?

Speaker 9 (01:39:43):
And unfortunately women the cattiness it's like, and as a woman,
I'm gonna just say we fall quicker towards it, which
is crazy because once they set the trap, you can
easily be like, oh, this is a trap. I mean
Cardi and Cardi, Nikki, Like at first Nikki and I
think Kim little Kim, it.

Speaker 6 (01:40:03):
Was the not given homage.

Speaker 9 (01:40:05):
But I feel like I think Nikki did give it,
but they were trying to make it that she wasn't.

Speaker 8 (01:40:10):
And then that's when it just like I just wanted
a little bit too much homage I think. I mean,
I've been in the music industry for a minute, Like
I did buyguard work and everything. I worked for Rock
and full and all that. But for me, I feel
like you can give homage, but like you ain't gotta
give homage every damn album, every song.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (01:40:29):
It's a certain point. Okay, I gave homage to you.
Cool take that. I recognized you take that. But after
a while I got going with my career. I can't
base my career off for giving homage to you. So
that's what I'm like. Sometimes it's just like you said,
the caeness, Like I thought that whole situation was just dumb, yo,
because it's like, all right, Kim, you did, you did

(01:40:51):
your thing, you had your time, Your time is done.
Like for like I always say, the other thing is
that you like, let's say you come out with this color. Right,
you've been wearing that pink for years, but there's been
someone who ain't in the limelight who's been wearing the
same pink as you. So now when that person come
out with that pink, now they look like they copy
on you, but they've been that way the whole time

(01:41:13):
since they was a kid.

Speaker 2 (01:41:14):
You know what I'm saying. So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (01:41:16):
How much it only goes, but so much after a while,
like yo, let me live my life, let me do
my career.

Speaker 1 (01:41:21):
No, I agree with that, that's some merit. I will say, However,
that's Queen Bee and so you know what I mean,
you gotta get Queen Bee her, that's the queen. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:41:34):
But I think you know when it comes to I
guess women, it's like it's so much room at the table.
But you know, they just try to make it seem like,
you know, women can't work together, you can't.

Speaker 8 (01:41:49):
Be one and make a better impression than the slack.

Speaker 4 (01:41:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:41:55):
And I like to see the women that are like, no,
we're gonna work together like the global is in the
the sexy reds and all that that are like coming together.

Speaker 6 (01:42:04):
Know, we're gonna work together like more money. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
I like that. I'm gonna pull up some of these
comments because uh Sabrina said, said I wrote carry off
after that.

Speaker 6 (01:42:15):
You know, a lot of a lot of people did.

Speaker 1 (01:42:17):
A lot of pole did Yeah, then said wow, that
was a lot they said wow. They laughing at what
was going down in the pain. He said, see queen
bit that's Queen Bee. Queen Bee, you can't go. It's
like the beehive is forever.

Speaker 10 (01:42:33):
Yeah, because they still coming at her and it's it's
not as hard as it was when it when that
song first came out. But esther Dean, she did post
on social media and she said I submitted a lot
of verses for that remix. One got picked and it
was she tried to say it was co written by Carrie.
Looking back, it was childish and it didn't age well.
I see how it hurt people, especially women, and I

(01:42:55):
take full responsibility. I worked with and supported many women
since since. But that doesn't erase the moment. I'm sorry
for my part. Growth is real, and so is this apology. Yeah, Esadean, Yeah, Essadeine.
Because she was the one that actually she tried to
put a spin on it was that you co wrote

(01:43:16):
it with me. So Carrie Hilson hopped back into the
roop chat.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
I'm let you finish.

Speaker 10 (01:43:21):
But she hopped back in the group chat and she said, Dean,
I personally don't think this is our fight to have
I respected you on this matter for sixteen years and
attempted to do that again yesterday while finally expressing the
truth when asked. But since you're coming to the table,
let's be clear you use the word co write. I

(01:43:43):
rewrote three lines in your verse, which was the only
battle I won in the whole matter. But you weren't
there when all this was going down, and we didn't
write it together. And then she states what the lines
were that she wrote, So remember what I read from
that whole verse? So she said, these lines are mine.

(01:44:03):
Been getting dollars, boy going go going get your money up.
No you ain't, No, you ain't only wait, no you
ain't the only homie on me line up. So she's
saying that's all she wrote. So all that you know,
to the left left and all that other stuff that
was her. And if you do look at the lyrics,

(01:44:25):
like that line that she said she wrote, it doesn't
fit with the whole thing, right, because it's like the
whole thing is coming at females and then you got
this one line talking about boy, go get your money
up and da da dah, So it doesn't fit.

Speaker 1 (01:44:39):
With I'm so glad, I'm so glad that it wasn't
a guy who wrote this. So glad we can't look
you can't point the finger at us this time.

Speaker 10 (01:44:52):
Yeah, right, But Carrie was like, you've been quiet for
sixteen years, but coming out only now when you felt
a portion of the heat that I've been getting all
this time. Right wow, So now people come in at
esther Dean like dad, so that really was you the
whole time, and like Carrie been getting this smoke. But
Carrie got to take some kind of accountability because it's

(01:45:14):
like when you in the studio and you get that
a high moment and you're like, oh wait they talk
about be like you can say no, I'm not signing
off on you, like y'all not releasing artist followers, right.
But even if that's not what the case was, if
she felt like Beyonce either was her friend, her girl
like or she just feel like, yo, this is Caddy,

(01:45:36):
I'm not I'm not starting this, you know what I'm saying.
It's like it's almost like getting in the car with
one of your homegirls and she like, yo, don't ask questions.

Speaker 6 (01:45:44):
Were just showing up and you just you just riding
with them, like that's what it was. But once you realize,
oh wait, this is my sister's best friend.

Speaker 9 (01:45:52):
Hold up, wait you know what I mean? Yeah, Like
she ain't de escalated, so she got it. She she
own apology too, in my opinion, like she's trying to
make it sound like she has no no, no.

Speaker 5 (01:46:07):
Parts of this.

Speaker 6 (01:46:08):
That's not true.

Speaker 9 (01:46:09):
This came out of your mouth like, well, she was
kind of like in the whole because the Breakfast Club
interview was a whole hour, So she was saying like
she regretted that, like looking back now, she could have
did things differently. Yeah, but it's like the regret is
like because it's too late. Well, it's just because I
guess I'm looking at it. The regret is only because

(01:46:30):
of what the backlash was a slip and she got up,
then would you still regret it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
It's like someone saying sorry just because they got caught.

Speaker 4 (01:46:39):
Or.

Speaker 6 (01:46:41):
If it was if it was on the flip side.
Let's just say she was.

Speaker 1 (01:46:45):
I want you to hold that thought. But you said
they should have said what.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
It's like they're saying sorry only because they got caught.

Speaker 1 (01:46:51):
So I just want to for the record, I want
to say that's from my bab. She she wrote that
voice for Hannah. No you did not.

Speaker 9 (01:47:08):
Yeah, I'm just saying, like she she should have took accountability.

Speaker 6 (01:47:12):
That's it.

Speaker 9 (01:47:12):
Like if this would have been flipped and she would
have gotten hits off of that line where she has
still been like I regret it.

Speaker 6 (01:47:20):
I think that from they say, your first thought is
your god thought.

Speaker 9 (01:47:24):
If you knew in the beginning when you read this,
like Yo, this don't feel right, Nah, I shouldn't do this, then.

Speaker 6 (01:47:29):
You shouldn't have did it. That's it, Like that's take that,
like you know what I did this. I shouldn't have
did it.

Speaker 9 (01:47:36):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:47:37):
You know, if you.

Speaker 6 (01:47:37):
Want to say somebody else was in the Lions, then
what you yet was in the Lions?

Speaker 1 (01:47:41):
Then with me.

Speaker 6 (01:47:43):
Outside of that.

Speaker 4 (01:47:44):
Just.

Speaker 8 (01:47:46):
Because it's like, you say a line because that line
could be something that could get you money, but you
say a line line also something that could get you cut,
and in her case, it got her cut.

Speaker 10 (01:47:57):
Yeah, she did say that. She was at an award
show or an event a little while after that happened,
and then Beyonce walked up to her and was like, Hey,
I'm Beyonce, and she just took it as like oh okay,
she said, she shook her hand and whatever, like you know,
but she she took it for what it was. Beyonce

(01:48:18):
went walked up to Carrie Hilson after this and was like, hey,
I'm Beyonce and went to shake her hands that movie.

Speaker 9 (01:48:26):
But you know what else, I think I think they
have likeness too, meaning you only have one. So she
has the complexion, she has the shape like it's almost
like and the music is not far off, which is
why Rihanna had to change up her style because she
was looking too much like Beyonce.

Speaker 6 (01:48:44):
What's the other girl's.

Speaker 9 (01:48:45):
Name with the A area nor too.

Speaker 6 (01:48:53):
She was supposed to be like the next Beyonce, but
her likeliness.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
Was too close.

Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
I just want to love, first of all, one of
my heart right.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
First of all, that was my wife.

Speaker 9 (01:49:08):
But it's the same with Tony Braxton and Anita Baker,
like once you start having likeness of the same star
Keisha Cole and came to shot like it was like, hey,
you gotta make it so, And that's what I think
happened too. I think that she was like, hey, she
was like like, we gotta.

Speaker 6 (01:49:27):
Get you out of here.

Speaker 8 (01:49:28):
But you know, the voice, the voices will always carry
you because you can have the same lightness, physical or
like the same same artists. Look but that voice saying
never one.

Speaker 5 (01:49:37):
But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:49:38):
The industry don't like that. So no matter if your.

Speaker 9 (01:49:40):
Voice, ki Ky Wyatt got the best voice and she's
underrated to me, but it's like it's you. But regardless
of the voice, they want, it's Brandon, it's image, it's
imagery I had.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
I was not.

Speaker 8 (01:49:55):
I was a security escort for Key when she came
to fill you a couple of times and when she
let me tell you when she was singing in that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
Car, that voice was so clear. So listen that girl,
that woman.

Speaker 9 (01:50:10):
But that's what I'm saying. Sometimes it's not the voice.
It's unfortunately because they say Beyonce couldn't sing that the best,
but it was her then.

Speaker 6 (01:50:22):
I think now it's definitely matured.

Speaker 9 (01:50:25):
They said Mary couldn't sing, and I heard Mary at
the Spectrum. I've seen Mary. I seen Mary and Wells
Fargo recently. She sounds amazing. But I'm saying it's not

(01:50:46):
it's not the voice, like it really isn't like you
got people who once you get live they be like,
oh my gosh. Yeah, because it's some artists that they
got a little talent, but it has to be developed
to get to the level where you see it years
later or like she can't but I'm saying in the
beginning years. But I was just saying what power.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
It's also the shows they entertainment.

Speaker 8 (01:51:09):
It said, like a lot of times those tickets when
you're playing those prices for those tickets, you're not paying
for just the performance.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
You're paying for an experience.

Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
Lighting.

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
Yeah, the lighting and everything.

Speaker 8 (01:51:19):
Like you know, I put together I work for Local eight.
I put we put that stuff together ship. Uh, what's
the name of bad bunny? Listen he puts on a ship, yo,
bro Listen. The stuff that they had for him came
in on more than fifteen semis led lighting staging, Like

(01:51:43):
he has a stage that moved. When I tell you
some of these people that come in with this stuff,
one hundred and twenty five fifteen semis twenty semis sound
stage lighting, it's amazing.

Speaker 10 (01:51:58):
Well, that's when you don't mind paying like nearly a
thousand dollars for an experience versus was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:52:04):
A thousand dollars for ain't me? I'm sorry, and I
love a Marie and Rihanna and.

Speaker 9 (01:52:14):
I didn't pay a lot for this one. But it
was up there and this was her last tour in Philly,
and I went and it was amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
How much was it was up there?

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
You was there? You know you were singing at the concerts.
Oh yeah, let's hear you. That's he that's that's a
word smooth.

Speaker 11 (01:52:47):
Don't find out that story is blown me.

Speaker 1 (01:52:51):
You people must be idiots. What are you doing?

Speaker 11 (01:52:54):
Are you people out of your mind? Are you just
so witness any clue? Your conduct is outrageous. I think
I'm stupid.

Speaker 10 (01:53:06):
So the Celebrity Sizzle Award goes to Philly's own Wallow.
This has a little a little clip to us. I
don't know if it will the clip will play part
of it or whatever. If not, don't worry about it,
just let the image play.

Speaker 7 (01:53:28):
But Philly, look for the wallow wildlod. You're trying to
say to me, look at to me, think about a jump?

(01:53:50):
Wollo save me?

Speaker 6 (01:53:55):
Yes, So shout out to Wallow.

Speaker 10 (01:53:58):
Philly's on Wallow. He's the coo of million dollars worth
of game with hosts and cousin Gilly the Kid, he
was seen on a video attempted to save a man's life.
So as we saw a driver passing the scene capture
of the moment when Wallow, whose real name is Willace People's,
was spotted alongside a police officer trying to de escalate

(01:54:18):
the situation of a man who was attempting to jump.

Speaker 6 (01:54:21):
Off the bridge.

Speaker 10 (01:54:23):
So the video was posted on gilly to kids Instagram
along with the caption he outside trying to stop people
from jumping. Fake a negotiator. So you know, Gilly the
Kid gotta come at Willow's neck otherwise it's just not
Gilly and Waller at all. So both Wallow and Gilly
had been on to get back to others. In December

(01:54:44):
twenty twenty two, they were honored with the Keys to
the City of Philadelphia by councilmen Kenyatta Johnson for their
activism and philanthropy work in the city. So shout out
to him. Absolutely, yeah, I don't know how he saw
this going down and just jumped and pulled over and
he got out the car.

Speaker 8 (01:55:02):
And I can tell you I could tell you from
meeting Gilly like I mean meeting Wallow, Wallow is really
that dude, like he will motivate you. I was a
Leon Huff Junior studio and Wallow was there. Wallow motivated
the hell out of me. Like Wallow, he has this
thing where he just motivates you like that. I met

(01:55:24):
Gilly back when Major Figures. Yeah, that's that video.

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
Shoot.

Speaker 8 (01:55:29):
Gilly is the same way. But Gilly is real like Gilly,
real about But Wallow he's a one hell of a motivator.
I always wish I wish the best for him because
I mean that dude when I tell you, he motivates people,
he gets you going, he gets you thinking, like he
really does. Like, So I'm not surprised that I saw
you know that, because that's that's how he is. Naturally,

(01:55:51):
he's not doing it for TV. He's not doing it
for likes.

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
That's just him. That's just the way he is.

Speaker 4 (01:55:56):
Exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:55:57):
When you stay ready, you don't have to get ready.

Speaker 2 (01:55:59):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:56:01):
And I also think that I got a cousin who's
on death row, who actually was locked up with wallow.
And when you at the bottom of bottom, it's almost
like saying, your gratefulness is different the way you see
life through your lenses, Like if you've been on your
deathbed before, and you know, amongst us for in this room,

(01:56:21):
we can say that we've gone through our journey.

Speaker 6 (01:56:24):
Right, So how do you look at life after being
on your deathbed?

Speaker 1 (01:56:28):
Yea, every moment and and you look at things as
not as big of a deal as some other people. Right,
that's all you worried about. Right.

Speaker 6 (01:56:45):
So I mentioned that to say when he jumped out,
he like, Yo, whatever you about to jump for, whatever.

Speaker 9 (01:56:52):
It is, I promise you it ain't that serious, because
you know one thing I've learned it was it's a
His name is Sadu Guru.

Speaker 6 (01:57:01):
He's like you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 9 (01:57:04):
I heard, Yes, he said something that just stuck with me.
He said, Uh, just wait, death will come.

Speaker 6 (01:57:13):
Just wait.

Speaker 9 (01:57:14):
When you're gifted life, you're guaranteed that. I don't care
what if you're gifted life as an aunt, as a plant,
as a human, as whatever it is. When you're gifted life,
death is guaranteed.

Speaker 2 (01:57:24):
Death will come.

Speaker 10 (01:57:25):
Just wait exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:57:26):
That's one thing.

Speaker 9 (01:57:27):
That's one promise that everything that lives has been promised. Yeah,
So just saying that about Wallow is like if you've
been to where people who know what that looks like,
it's like not.

Speaker 10 (01:57:40):
And for some some people they have purpose. So sometimes
the creator has to allow you to go through certain
things because you're gonna be that one that's going to
bring somebody else through. So if you don't go through,
how can you bring somebody else?

Speaker 5 (01:57:55):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (01:57:55):
So it's just like you can tell that he's been
through a lot that he he can walk somebody through
what they're going through.

Speaker 6 (01:58:03):
So for those that don't know, how did that story end?

Speaker 10 (01:58:07):
Oh, well the man he did talk the man off
our age.

Speaker 6 (01:58:13):
Yeah, yeah, that was the goal.

Speaker 8 (01:58:16):
That's that's very true. You you start to look at
stuff like, I mean, I almost died in a motorcycle accident.
I don't remember two weeks around that time, but there
was a guy one of my friends in the same
area got hit and he didn't survive.

Speaker 2 (01:58:28):
He had all his care, just like I had on
all my care. So now I'll be looking like that's
the worst you got. Bring something else.

Speaker 8 (01:58:37):
So it's like like like he said, like, you be
looking like that's that's the best you got. Look, let's
go what else we got. God ain't done with us.
We're gonna keep going.

Speaker 6 (01:58:48):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 10 (01:58:49):
And that's just going back to that, you know, what
we were talking about earlier with the mental health, and
it's a it's an every day what I'm learning now
is an every day it's a it's a journey that
you have to take your mental health. Like you said,
you do the exercise, and it has to be something
that you do every day to protect your mental health,
you know, with the with the meditation, the mindfulness practicing

(01:59:09):
and you know, and all that stuff like just taking
a few minutes to sit down and breathe and you know,
take your focus off of everything that's going on around
you and just be present in the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
And that's probably what that guy needed.

Speaker 8 (01:59:26):
He probably probably got everything closing it because you know,
just as us as human beings, as people, you know,
you never know what somebody's got going on and in life,
and sometimes for some people they just they're mentally strong,
but they're not really mentally strong, and sometimes it just
clicks and closes in.

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
That's why I always say, when you see somebody and
uh one speak to him right, but when they say
I'm right as again cool because sometimes we in this
moment where we don't want to even burden someone else
on the stuff that we're going through. The might say hey,
how you doing it? We'd be like, were good, You're

(02:00:02):
not good? You know, somebody might truly be able to help.
So you know, maybe say I'm going through a little thing.
I'm going through a couple of things, but I'll be
all right, but at the very least, let a friend know,
you know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (02:00:14):
But you know who do that?

Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
You know who do that?

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
Though? You Nah, no, no, no, no, I ain't gonna
let you play that there. Nah.

Speaker 8 (02:00:23):
I used to be at Temple all the time, all
the time, like they thought that I went to temple.
I was eating food and a child hall and everything.
Every time I saw, hey, yo, what's going on?

Speaker 7 (02:00:35):
Man?

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
You're good? Every time it wasn't just what's up, it
was hey, what's going on? Man? You're good? See always
did that.

Speaker 8 (02:00:44):
Charles ain't never changed from state since they won, never
been the same way. And every now and then when
something come up, you're going, I'm going to take a
second to be like, nah, nah, you ain't doing it
that way. This is the way you did it. So
you know, he always been that way to checking up
on you. And I think others around us because I

(02:01:05):
do it too, but I think others around him and
others around us start to, you know, take that same
vibe and start to multiply it and multiplier and multiply it.
And I think that and it's the probably for another show,
but I think that between us, black men need to
happen more.

Speaker 1 (02:01:22):
No, that's real. Make sure you make sure all the
brothers who's watching this, make sure you send this out
to another brother and just tell them like, yo, I
appreciate you, I see you. You know a lot of
black men out there feel like we're not being seen
right now. You know, in these times, right, And that's
why there's a lot of focus now when it comes
to black men. If it's either voting, if it's either

(02:01:42):
mental health, it's something even teaching. You know, they trying
to get more brothers in these schools to teach these babies, right.
And so you know, the gentlemen out there, we see you,
We love you like, it's all good. Give them a pound,
give them a hug, it's all good. Like make sure
you let them know that we see you. And this
goes to the women. Look at these brothers, let them
know you see them, Let them know you see them.

(02:02:04):
We need that, especially when it comes to y'all, because
what happens is we look to y'all for the support.
We don't believe the gentlemen or the men will give
us the support, so we look to y'all for support.
When we get it from men, it's just icing on
the kick. When we get it from y'all, y'all softness,
the encouragement that we need that from y'all. So at

(02:02:26):
the very least, come yes, the news.

Speaker 10 (02:02:29):
The good and sad thing that I'm starting to see,
and especially I guess I'm seeing this more without my son.
But like with his friends like whenever they I guess
say goodbye or whatever, they like, all right, love you bro.
Because now it's so much going on with these kids
that they're not seeing like you're losing your friends in
high school. So like they made it a point. Yeah, exactly,

(02:02:52):
like the ones that is like thirteen fifteen, and they
make it a point now that they say like all right,
love you bro.

Speaker 9 (02:03:00):
Right.

Speaker 2 (02:03:00):
You know.

Speaker 6 (02:03:01):
So question about the Wallow thing, did he get a
call to go out there or he was riding by?

Speaker 10 (02:03:06):
I already was riding by, so that that right there can.

Speaker 9 (02:03:10):
Also say, and I believe in spirituality that God didn't
want that man to take his life that day. That
was you know what I'm saying, one of the odds
that somebody is about to jump off the bridge while Willow,
the motivator is driving by. You know what I'm saying,
Like that was that wasn't a happenstance. That was that

(02:03:30):
puts you into place that definitely that it wasn't for
such a time as.

Speaker 6 (02:03:35):
This motivated Yeah, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 9 (02:03:44):
For him to be driving by and somebody's about to
jump off the bridge and it's like, do you know
who's on the bridge it's like someone dying and then there's.

Speaker 6 (02:03:51):
A surgeon or a doctor, right, nobody but the creator.

Speaker 1 (02:03:57):
Yeah, because we all.

Speaker 2 (02:03:59):
Get placed different positions for different reasons.

Speaker 10 (02:04:02):
M hm, yes, all right, Yeah that was the sizzle es.
I thought we listen on the something.

Speaker 1 (02:04:13):
All right, So that was the sizzle. Ladies and gentlemen,
I'm your boy.

Speaker 6 (02:04:15):
Char's the beautiful, classy ladies, beautiful.

Speaker 1 (02:04:19):
My game, so listen.

Speaker 4 (02:04:21):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:04:22):
So I won't just want to wrap a few things
up real quick. So next week it's off week, so
we won't be on a lot of people traveling. Is
it next week?

Speaker 10 (02:04:31):
It's the holiday weekend. I mean not the holiday, but like, yeah,
Easter weekend are celebrating.

Speaker 1 (02:04:40):
Yeah, so we won't be in that's the holiday, you're right,
and so we'll be traveling. We'll be you know, family,
that's family time and all that gooddle stuff. And so
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Speaker 6 (02:05:41):
The video is hot.

Speaker 1 (02:05:43):
Yeah, so we had to end it, so I appreciate that.
And make sure you look out for the met gala party,
the view on party. That's going to be crazy. So
it's gonna best fun.

Speaker 6 (02:05:52):
So are you're gonna give us more information? Give them
more information?

Speaker 1 (02:05:54):
Yeah, when it comes on. We got some time, We
got some time. But I just want to put that
on your radar. It's only twenty twenty five spots, y'all.
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 6 (02:06:02):
Who's going to be there?

Speaker 1 (02:06:03):
Who's going to be there? You know, the drink is
going to be there.

Speaker 6 (02:06:07):
The conversation is going to be people.

Speaker 1 (02:06:10):
Beautiful people are definitely going to be in the building
and come.

Speaker 6 (02:06:14):
And the environment though environment okay, it's a secret location,
not yet.

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We ain't throw it out yet, but we'll talk about
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