Chelsea Cox on Empowering Communities Through Data & Civic Engagement

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Come in here with us, we talk.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
We come in here them we talk.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
We come in here, we come in here, we talk.
Come in here now we.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Coming, ladies and gentlemen. You know. One of the things
that uh, I like, I truly like, is the idea
that we're doing these interviews. And why do I like
the interviews because we get an.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Opportunity to talk to the good.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Old folk, ring the people who's doing some excellent work
in the community, to think things that just the talent, right,
you know, And so I get excited about that. And
so when we have someone that's in Philadelphia, because we
have people that's come across they they streaming across the nation,
shout out to our our our followers in Europe and
Africa that been in boxing US and stuff like that.

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So we we all across the globe so excited about
that work. But one thing that we're truly excited about
is the work that we do here in Philadelphia, right
and had opportunity to give those platforms to people who
you know, don't often get.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
Amplified like they should be.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
And this young lady today, man, we're going to give
her that opportunity.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
So says, well, you got it. For me right now,
all right, So who do we have today? Who you
have to day?

Speaker 5 (01:19):
So we have the beautiful Miss Chelsea Cox, Philadelphia native.
She's a leading figure in the field of data analysis
and analytics and design, with a bachelor's degree in actual
actual science.

Speaker 6 (01:35):
I'm it just sounds super small.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
She has a minor and statistics from Penn State University,
along with an NBA and finance from Temple University. T
you tonight. She found that C two Consulting Service Services
in twenty twenty. C two Consulting embodies her vision to
empower small businesses with data driven insights, visualizations, and customized tools,

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helping them enhance operations and gain a competitive edge. Chelsea's
success in building her company from the ground up highlights
her visionary leadership and business acumen, revolutionizing how small businesses
leverage data and In addition to her entrepreneurial endeavors, Chelsea

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is a dedicated advocate for a community service and civic engagement.
Something we've been.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Gonna talk a little bit about that.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
Yes, Yes, She founded a Seat at the Table Foundation,
a get out the vote organization committed to providing voting
education to underrepresented communities, reflecting her deep commitment to giving back.
So let's get a warm, warm, warm We Talk weekly.
Welcome to the beautiful miss Chelsea God.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
I've been giving her only tight.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Let me bring her pictures up because she got some
utiful pictures of all. Let me let me there she
goes there, she go right there, and man and so
first and foremost. You know, we always like to start.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
You know, how are you? How is your dang?

Speaker 3 (03:14):
How are you?

Speaker 7 (03:15):
It was good? My day was good. It started off
by following Senator Vincent Hughes around for a motorcade, helped
him do some visuals and helped him put some stuff
up on his uh Instagram pages. Start off with that,
followed by a nice nap very much needed.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
And yeah, then I came down here fantastic. So let's
start from the beginning because you know, I love so
when it comes to We Talked week, we have a
nonprofit connected to us that we amplified or underscore media literacy,
but specifically we talk about STEM right, and you're in
the steam base stem Steam kind of like Phil Jon.

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You know, it's good to see that kind of like
math aspect of a lot of the things that you're doing.
So what made you get into that because historically right, well,
because we talked about hitting figures, they.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Was hitting all right.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
But you know when we globally being globally competitive, a
lot of you know, our people, we're not necessarily in
that space, is in those spaces, right, So what you
know kind of forced you into the space.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Was it something that you liked or.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
You just had a natural kind of ability to like
yo and legs?

Speaker 4 (04:33):
This is what I do know.

Speaker 7 (04:35):
So it started off as a kid, I just one
of my favorite subjects in school was just math. So
I'm just like a big math numbers nerd. My father
was super big on like our education. So it was
my mother, but my dad used to hammer home like
the economy economics used to read to us.

Speaker 8 (04:56):
Right now.

Speaker 7 (04:58):
Yeah, And I have an older sister who is also
an insurance and she kind of talked to me about
she doesn't live shot up to her too. No, So
she talked to me about insurance and just asked me
what I wanted to do, and I just like, I
like numbers And she said, well, do you ever think
about be an actuary? And I'm like, no, I don't

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even know what that is. So applied to Penn State,
applied to the actual science program, and then when I
got in it, I realized like, oh, this is extremely
hard and this is a statistics based major, so let
me just try to stick it out that way. Quickly
realized I was one of the only individuals that kind
of looked like me. Figures come on now, Yeah, and

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it sparked something in me to want to just continue
to go and to just be like this leader in
a space where trying to make information and numbers easily
accessible for other people. Once I graduated, I just kind
of felt like working in corporate America, I'm like, I
can do this on my own, and I can bring
other people along with me and encourage other particularly young

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black girls to do the same thing as me. And
I think having that actual science degree has gotten me
into a lot of doors because people think I'm.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Smart, They think they know they just smart.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
They know those numbers no fantastic.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
So let's talk a little bit about some of the
things you have been doing based specifically on kind of
like your background in mathia.

Speaker 7 (06:23):
Yeah. So I have several clients that I basically help
them tell their stories in different media platforms. So what
I'll do is I'll take a bunch of numbers or
a bunch of information, and I'll figure out a way
that they can tell their story to their audiences. Specifically,
that has kind of stemmed into me just being as
creative as possible, so being able to learn how to

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use different tools and gadgets that my clients can put
their stories and information on social media, so like Instagram
or Facebook. So I'll do a real for them and
they'll infuse information or data into it. Another thing I
do is I work with other companies or nonprofit organizations
and they have a bunch of numbers and information that
they've collected over the years, and they just don't have

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someone on their team to effectively aggregate all that information,
assess it, and then come up with some type of
visuals for them so they can use the things I
create for them to like leverage and get them more money.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I think that's very especially now as we go into
this election, right we talk about numbers and statistics that
goes along with actually the storyline.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
So I think that's great.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Do you find that people have been reaching out more
because they want to kind of substantiate kind of the
facts that they're talking about Yeah.

Speaker 7 (07:41):
So I get a lot of people now more than ever,
asking for materials that they can use to market just
general nonpartisan get out to vote information. So one specifically
big shout out to the download. They hired me to
go around to all of the polling sidedite locations, and
I mayor may not have taught myself how to use
a drone, so I flew my drone out to all

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of the different locations just to kind of give people
a visual of what these locations look like. So I
think a lot of content creators and a lot of
elected officials and stuff are doing a good job at
pushing out these satellite locations, but they're not actually showing
people like what they look at. We're just looking at
like addresses on a screen. So I did a really
good job at like just going out to those locations

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and making sure we got like, this is what these
locations look like, this is the neighborhoods they are in,
so be sure to recognize that voting is accessible to
you and it's in your backyard. So that's different stuff
I'm doing, And I have other organizations kind of reaching
out to me to kind of get something not similar
to that. But other ways that they can get their

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message out to people about getting out to vote and
making sure that they're showing up to the polls on
the fifth.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Fantastic.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
So since we're since we're on that topic, right, we
thought weekly and like yourself of you vote, right, we've
been just kind of amplifying just this idea of not
only voting, but civics. Right, And you're heavy in that space, right,
And so what explain to me the importance to you

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when it comes to civics in general?

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Right?

Speaker 3 (09:18):
The first thing we think about, or what most think
about civics is voting, right, So this is so much
bigger than that, Right, But when you think about the
context of civics, where do you lead with and how
important is that to you?

Speaker 7 (09:32):
Yeah? So when I think about civics, it makes me
think back to when I started the Seat of the
Table foundation or just started the initiative, Right. So I
would kind of go around to these different political events
and notice that there are a lot of individuals who
are within my age range who are just as successful,

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but maybe don't feel comfortable getting into politics or don't
know where it starts, or don't know or have this
preconceived notion of about what politics looks like in Philadelphia.
So what I wanted to do was try to create
like this platform or just a space, a safe space
where people can come, have fun and talk about issues

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that are important to them. So when I think about civics,
I'm thinking about not just what we're doing on election
day in that boat front, in that polling place, but
thinking about the policies that are driving.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
That's right, there we go, that's right. I'm talking now.

Speaker 7 (10:33):
So thinking about the policies that basically are impacting all
of us on a day to day basis. I know
there's a lot of things going on in the city
right now for the presidential but the down ballt races
are even more important. Like there's things that I face
every day that is kind of scary. You know, a mom,

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she's four now, but there's I have friends that are
looking to be moms too, when they're nervous and scared
about the maternal health rate. For black women, we're three
times more likely to die than our counterparts.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
That's I know.

Speaker 7 (11:08):
I may have designed graphics, no, so it's scary. That
is that is terrifying. As a business owner, I get
a lot of my money from contracts. I'm trying to
get into the federal and government contract excuse the contracting space.
And with the affirmative action laws that are coming up

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in the Supreme Court, I'm nervous that the little bit
of that ten percent contract gap that they're given to disadvantaged,
disadvantaged businesses, that's going to go away. Like I think
about the Freedom the Fearless Fun organization giving money resources
to black and brown women that is no longer here,

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So now I can't do it anymore. That's scary. That's scary.
And I think our state reps, are state senators, are
council people. If they understand what we are looking for
and what are policies that are important to us, they
can do their job more effectively. So I just go
back to this idea of like what can I do

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to encourage people like myself to get out to those
to get out to the polls and go vote. And
I started the Seat of the Table just to resonate
with that idea. And it's like a big great nod
to Shirley chishol who said, if they don't give you
a seat at the table, then bring a folding share
she was a pioneer in this space, and I think

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we have started to kind of drift away from that.
But I think it's important to just kind of make
sure people are aware that they have options, there is
a pathway, and there's spaces for them if they want
to kind of come in and be engaged. So the
seat of the table was definitely a nod to that
started off as like, what just day parties like twenty

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one plus, so there are drinks there was important to me.
No speeches from politicians. I don't get.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
This microphone people off.

Speaker 7 (13:09):
But yeah, so start off as a day party and
that has now since morphed to panel discussions where we're
showing up at different block parties or we're showing up
in different venue spaces, giving people a true seat at
the table to talk about the issues on the ballot,
so talk about their feelings or talk about their thoughts
and why it's important to get off to vote. So
I feel like when I think about civics, I think
of me just doing my part and everyone just doing

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their part.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Two fantastic, fantastic. I appreciate you saying that, do you
do you? I just want to back up to something
that you said, because you mentioned the down ballot and
this that's one of the things that, uh, this this
whole kind of election space kind of ticked me off
because you don't hear anything about the down ballot.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
All you hear is president, president, president, President.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
It's like, yo, it's some things that will affect us
directly if we don't vote for that, right and so
how who had It's the accountability to make sure that
we make sure people know and understand that part of it.
You know what I'm saying, Like, who has the accountability?
Who do we hold accountable to say, Hey, it's other

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things that play here.

Speaker 7 (14:15):
Yeah, I think we need to hold ourselves accountable. It's
people like this platform, it's people like myself. It's people
organizations and these social media pages that need to do
as great of a job as they're doing right now
to make sure people are voting for the president, but

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also recognizing these other down ballot races. The president is
only as effective as the other legislative branches, Like so
if we don't have a majority in one way or
the other, it's gonna be really hard to get things done.
The president does not determine who our next district attorneys.
So when you have someone you know, talk to them

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getting in some type of trouble somewhere, the president has
nothing to.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
Do with this.

Speaker 7 (15:07):
So I don't want this idea of people being like, Okay,
we did our thing because we came to vote for
the president, but not recognizing that in order to get
paid family and medical leave passed in the state of Pennsylvania,
we need to vote for state representatives. We need to
vote for the state senators in order for us to
get equal opportunities within the city when it comes to

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contracting and when it comes to making sure our potholes
are fixed, we need to vote for our city councils.
I think it's our jobs as people who are within
the space to begin to educate people more. And I
think one of the great things about this particular election,
and with all the different celebrities and all the different
initiatives that's going on in the city right now, I

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think more people are looking at politics. So I think
the work doesn't stop November fifth, And that's like what
I'm challenging everyone that has a current plan form in
the current stance to continue that work on the number
six and then continue that work for the primary coming up,
I'm sure, and then continue that work for the general.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
So keep it up.

Speaker 7 (16:09):
I don't want it to stop. In twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
One of the most disheartened things that happened to me
just recently was me talking to a young man and
he literally just said, I'm voting because it's.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
Just for the presidents.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
It was like, just for the president's No, he was like, oh,
it's other people to vote for, yes, which infuriated me
because the millions and millions of dollars that's going into
this election, you're not even talking about the other people
that's supporting the presidential that's part of the leadership, right
So it's just a weird space for me right now.

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So I'm just kind of disgruntled a little bit about that,
because those are the people that you have been complaining
about getting work done on the house or your taxes and.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
All of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Those are the people you need to be looking at
at this point. So that's just a little side note.
But I appreciate the work that you're doing, and I
do believe that we are the ones that are accountable
for this because no one else is going to do
it right, and so we have to and that's what
we talught weekly. Does we amplify those voices like your own,
cause I think you're doing some amazing work. That's why

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we want to bring you here. Go aheadline, I'm just
this Laurence piece.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
Yeah, And you know, I was just thinking here to myself, like,
how do we get you know, the black community to
buy into this idea of civic engagement and you know,
so that it's something that we pass down to our
children because they're not learning it in schools. They're not

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you know, how how do we first get people to
even you know, buy into the idea of civic engagement.

Speaker 7 (17:47):
Yeah. I think from what I've learned in my experience
is meeting people ridter at Like, don't be afraid to
go into the bar down fifty sixth Street. That's all
the good chicken wings. Don't be afraid to do that.
Do not be afraid to, you know, go to the churches.
Don't be afraid to go to the schools or try
to do some type of programming to the seniors in

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the schools. I think it's important for just individuals that
know about the space and know about politics to go
to where the people are and give them the space
and the opportunity to make them feel seen and heard
and encouraging them to come out to vote and stuff.
And I think another big thing and kind of reason

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why we started the seat at the table with doing
the day parties is like people love a good day party.
I'm thirty five now. I probably shouldn't say nay, but
I'm thirty five now. I can't go out at night.
So what's a way that we can really just energize
people to come out and do things. And it's just
what I've been seeing over the past like several weeks,

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is that they're doing a good job with meeting people
where they're at. Like even with the motorcade, those motor
kids go throughout the city, which is a traditional thing.
I see reelections cycles those motorcades. But another thing that
a lot of organizations are doing is having these pop ups.
They're having pop ups and beauty stores, hair salons and
just all a pop up at a restaurant, a good
restaurant that's down Old City. They're doing pop ups at

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the different shopping center. So I think they're doing really
good work. And I think that is how you get
people to come out. It's just going to where they
are and encouraging them to get their voices hurt.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah, because I mean with the pop ups, that sounds
like it's it's something that people would be more interested
in versus like the traditional like oh you got to
go to this town.

Speaker 7 (19:35):
Hall and all that.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
Like it's to me, it's giving, like you know, just
something that's like trendy, like something that's fun and like,
you know, not the norm when it comes to politics.

Speaker 7 (19:49):
Yeah. When we so one of the one of the
seed the Table events that we had earlier this year
we had at the Fiddler Club and it was awesome.
Love the Fitler Club looks great. Side, some of the
feedback we got was people were a little hesitant to
come into the Fiddler Club because they have this preconceived
notion of our Oddler Club. We heard it, and what
we decided to do was this upcoming day party which

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is on the third. It's this Sunday, not the Sunday
is some tomorrow, it is next week. We're doing it
a Free Press, which is a boutique shop down on
Fifteenth Street and dynamic owners of the shop. One particular
owner I speak to. His name was munch Shot out
to munch just great. And the fact that he's allowing

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us to utilize his space and the network that he
has and the platform that he's already built up is
just immense and I'm just super appreciative and that space,
and in that particular shop, I think people come to
kind of congregate, look at the clothing and different capsules,
and that shop actually recognizes how important it is to
get local designers, local fashioned people to come together and

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sell their pieces. And I just thought, what is a
better way to get the word out to people who
again may not be as comfortable to step into politics,
but they're comfortable to go to Free Press. That's what
I think that like, it kind of resonates with the
idea of meeting people wheer.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
I was just thinking that. I was just saying that
that's that's definitely a onlong the lines of people where
it are, where.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
They are, Yeah, So shout out to shout out to them,
shut out to them. If you had a young young person,
even at this event that's about to happen at Free Press,
come to you and ask you, right, why should I vote?

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Why is voting important?

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Right?

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Why does my vote even matter? Because we get that
a lot and so I ask a lot of people
that question because I'm interested in seeing the response that
you would give. Right, So, what would you say to
a young lady that you know loves the work that
you're doing and they come to event and they.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
Like, but why should I vote?

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Though?

Speaker 4 (21:57):
What would you tell that person?

Speaker 7 (21:59):
I would just tell And it's funny because I just
was at another event and I was talking to a
bunch of younger kids and they were saying they weren't
gonna vote, and I was like, well, you know what's
important to you, So you tell me what's important to you.
And I guarantee you nine out of those ten things
that are important to you, someone that is running for
an office has that on their platform. And if that

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one politician has that on their platform, then there are
probably ten others that have it on their platform too.
You this information or this thing is important to you,
it's important to one hundred other people. There's no way
you're gonna see the change that you want to see
if you don't at least acclimate yourself to the space.

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And I know we tell people to do your research,
but you can't tell, like a nineteen year old kid,
you're not gonna be like do your research. No, you're
gonna say, hey, who do you listen to? Like, who
do you follow? Like, who's like an influencer. One of
the things that we actually one of the Piano de
discussions that we had was with a bunch of influencers
throughout the city of Philadelphia, and they were dynamic. They

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were all in their twenties, and they just basically talked
about how you talk to younger voters. And it's not
preaching to them. It's not bringing up the civil rights movement,
which I hate the fact that they don't want to
hear about the civil rights movement, because it is very important.
It is how we got here today. But it's basically
just talking to them about the issues, talking to them

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about like this is what we're up at stake with.
And the one thing I learned from that panel was, Okay,
figuring out what is important to them and then just
talking to them about what's important, not forcing them, not
kind of you need to do this, but trying to
have like a true engaged conversation with them. I mean,
regardless of their age, they still understand what's going on.

Speaker 9 (23:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
One of the things that we always have gotten from kids,
and because we're actually in the midst of teaching a
class of civics, you know, civic engagement and media literacy.
But one of the things that you know, they have
mentioned is that people tend to talk at them, not
talk to them, right, And so often, especially as an academic, right,

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we talking these academic terms as if everyone went to
college graduated, and we having this articulate conversation, right, and
sometimes we're talking over the head of them, but we're
still telling them you do this, yeah, right, And so
I think it's important for us to acknowledge that, identify
and hold ourselves accountable.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
And then you know, sometimes it's okay to go to.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
A different frequency, Yeah, talk to people on that level. Absolutely, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (24:38):
And then like just bringing them around the space like
I have a step door and she's in their voting
age and then' she's like, all right, well just come around,
Like I'm not going to force you to do this,
I'm not gonna spit this down your throat, but I
want you to see the work that I'm doing. And
you can kind of see her getting engaged, like you
can see her like at least having questions about it.
And then we just have conversations about it. But it's

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important just to again like not throwing at them. This
is what you should be doing and you have to
do this. And because someone's going to listen to that,
I wouldn't listen to it.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
I know everything.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
You better totally get it, totally get it. You mentioned
a lot about seat at the Table, right. I want
you to explain to everyone one what that is, right,
how they can even get you know, you know, engaged
in supporting and being a part of it, right, But
I want people to know what that is because you're
doing some great work.

Speaker 7 (25:30):
Yes, I'm gonna put on my marketing hat and See
the Table Foundation is a community based initiative. It's a
get out to vote initiative. It is nonpartisan initiative that
where we essentially just encourage millennials, Generation Z and other
marginalized communities to come out and get their voices heard
and to show up on election day. One of the

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best things about Seeing the Table is that we are
here for every single election cycle, so it is not
just the presidential We have different installations which are the
day parties or day rallies, and essentially what that is
is we have it the Sunday before each election day
to get people encouraged, to get people to recognize like, okay,
we still are in that home stretch. We can still

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do it. It's free for people to come. All you
have to do is you sign up a RSVP. We
have free food, we have free drinks. So that's why
we encourage the twenty one plus. But we've been doing
this since November twenty twenty two. It started very I
don't want to say small. It started we have expanded Saints,

(26:33):
let's put it that way. So in twenty twenty two
we were over in West Philly in a social spase. Yeah,
we were at Mingo Free So we were over there
and that has since grown from Mingle to Reserve to
Fitler and now we're at Free Press and we were
doing different things. So one of the biggest things that

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we've gotten great feedback about was the Last to Sea
at the Table, which was in April. We had a
panel discussion where we invited a lot of dynamic black
men to give them a space where they can feel
free and all about. So we invited them to do

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a panel discussion and just talk about like what their
feelings are and how we can engage black mail voters,
and we got so much great feedback from that that
that has since stemmed over into doing these other panel
discussions where we're just featuring different voices. One of the
biggest things I want to do is not to do
the normal people we see, like the people we see
everything all the time, all the time, they got the

(27:41):
same stuff to say. So it's important to just kind
of give newer people like platforms so they can kind
of get up and talk. So that's essentially where we're at.
And then the next big event that we're doing is
the one on November third at Free Process from one
to five. Again, people just r VP, show up, you
sign up up and just have a good time. We're
having food trucks actually just got that confirmed. Yay. We'll

(28:04):
have two food trucks outside, we'll have bartenders inside, we'll
have some cool giveaways and it'll just it'll be great.
We have a two amazing sponsors to download and Black
Leadership Pennsylvania. So and every voice, every vote is also
every vote voice, every vote they are doing the thing.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yes they yes, you know.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
That's what encouraged us to target a lot of the
members like you like yourself, but also because we do
have a platform like this and the work that which
I believe is the problem.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Right, you guys are doing a lot of work no
one knows.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah, right, And so we had a lot of dynamic
people on to be just to get on a platform
and this is the work that they're doing. Now you know,
now you can support them, right, And so we'll continue
to do our work and all of the events that
you have and let us know, we'll come out we're
doing live like a live broadcasting something like that.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
We can do something like that, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 (29:02):
I have a question for Chelsea.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
Yeah, yeah, looking back, is there a lesson that you
learn far as with being an entrepreneur and starting up, Like,
is there anything that you can tell us that help
influence you now that you.

Speaker 7 (29:18):
Look back in Yeah, I would say the biggest thing
for me is I get in my own head and
I stopped doing a lot of the things that I
probably am I should have continued to do and I
am doing right now currently. I think I was nervous
and scared to put myself out there. I think if
y'all would have talked to me like ten years ago,

(29:40):
I would have been like absolutely not. I do not
want to do an interview. I do not want to
put my face anywhere. I don't want to talk. Even
a few years ago, when I started See two Consulting,
I had to start marketing the business and people were like, Chelsea,
you gotta put your face on camera, and I'm like, no,
I don't, And then now I do it, and this
I just post and just kind of walk away. That's
just kind of like my thing right now. But yeah,

(30:02):
So some of the things I learned was just not stopping,
Like if you feel like you have a good idea,
even if you can't really articulate what that idea is,
just trying to hone in on how you can amplify
it and just keep going like it'll eventually come. That
was one of the biggest things I learned, which just
to kind of just never give up on yourself. Another

(30:22):
big thing I learned was building a network is crucial.
Absolutely the individuals that you have in your space or
in your feat sphere, whether or not through your friend's
family or whatever. If they're not you don't have a
good support system. You're only going to get but so far,
you need that sounding board. You need those people that

(30:43):
are encouraging you on a regular basis to kind of
just show up and be the best version that you
can be. You also need that shoulder to cry on,
no matter who it is or who could be. And
I think like, without that, you're d I don't want
to say you're nothing, but it's gonna be hard for you.
It's like a bigger challenge. So I think those are
the biggest things. I would have started earlier, and I

(31:04):
would have built a network. Yeah, a team, Yeah, a team,
A team. I am looking for a team now. I'm
looking for a team now. And I have feelers out
like I have awesome people that I can rely on,
Like I have photographers I can rely on. I have
other event production people I can rely on. I have
other analysts that I can rely on that can help
me do the work that I'm doing right now. But

(31:25):
I would have definitely started ten years ago. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Yeah, make sure you get them there. As a matter
of fact, who do you have here?

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Somebody came in with you all in the cut right now?

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Who you have here today?

Speaker 7 (31:35):
I have one of the biggest supporters on my team
is my sister's state representative work.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
And I had to show her around. She's doing some
amazing work in the community and.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Her due Dillinges and.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
We hope people accountable here, you know.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
And so I would have put them on Front Street
if she didn't. She in them streets.

Speaker 7 (32:00):
Good, No, she cares.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Y's to her.

Speaker 8 (32:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (32:04):
I always say this, like I know people think like
politicians don't care. She cares. One time she walked out
the house. Sorry, we're gonna put you on blast. She
had two different shoes on. She stressed. Sorry, so stressed.
She was so stressed, and I felt like bad. But
I feel like her being in my network, in my
presence encourages me every day to just do the work

(32:25):
that I'm doing. And a seat at the table honestly
started with me and her talking like how can we integrate,
integrate something that we thought would be fun and get
people out And we were like, oh, day party and it
was like nobody would go to a day party. And
THEN'M like, here we are, and she's just like one
of my biggest cheerleaders. I just love her so much.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah, yeah, And she'd be out there in them streets
because we listen, we out there in them streets, right
and when we yeah for a long time. And you know,
one of the things that I have I have a
problem with, and I use that word problem is uh,
election time. Everyone wants your everyone wants your vote. Everyone

(33:08):
start campaigning, right, but you never see them until then.
And so I get on this platform and we got
a nice little reach.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
So I'm like, yo, I.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Don't know, because we you know, we we don't go
to any side.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
We just say we for people who are doing the work. Yeah,
and it's just a give a word.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
I give it around before she's doing the work out there.

Speaker 7 (33:30):
Always see her. She just got a bill passed up
at the state.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Talk about it.

Speaker 7 (33:38):
Actually pay attention to her job, even though she thinks
I don't. She just got a bill passed for duela services,
so essentially women that want to get duelas I could
be covered under medicated. Yeah. So she's doing a lot
of work with Momni bus PA. She's doing a lot
of work with in the maternal health space. She just
put ten million dollars to her district. Shout out to

(34:00):
Overbrook High School. She didn't even go there for she's
giving them money to y'all. Yeah, so she's yielded her thing.
I think it's the second or third bill that actually
got third bill that got passed, yes, and that impacts me.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
I'm in healthcare, so I'm telling patients now that through
their Medicaid product that they can get duel the services.
So thank you, thank you love for that.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
You know, so I you know, thanks for your work.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
You gotta give you flowers.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
We believe in giving people flowers, right, because we hard
on them. If we're hard on you on this side,
we gotta be nice to you on the other side. Right,
it's only right, right, and so soudos for that. So
thanks for giving her flowers. But back to you, it's
some of the great work that you're doing over there.
And so I asked about if someone asked about vote,
what if you have a young lady that's looking at

(34:47):
you like, oh my god, I love you, like you're amazing,
how can I do.

Speaker 7 (34:52):
What you do?

Speaker 4 (34:52):
What would you tell that little sister?

Speaker 7 (34:54):
I would first tell the young lady figure out what
you love, because if it's something that you love and
something you have a passion for, I won't even feel
like work. Right, sit down, think through what you want
to do. Create that. I don't want to say strategic
plan because it just sounds very blath but create a
plan for your life, like what do you want where

(35:14):
do you see yourself a year from now, five years
from now, ten years from now. The sky is the limit,
so that idea of where you see yourself, don't limit
it to what you see in your direct sphere, but
creating something that you feel will leave a mark on
society in this world. One of the things my dad
taught me was about this blue ocean theory, which is

(35:35):
a theory of creating something that is so far out
into the ocean that no one else can touch that.
You may have other people that are going to get
into the space or get into this area, but you
creating something that is going to live in this one
dot in the middle of this blue ocean and amplifying
that as much as you possibly can. I would just

(35:57):
encourage each individual to be creative, think a way that
you can be innovative and think of ways that you
can leave a mark. And the only way that you
could really do that is thinking through like what what's
the passion for you? What's important for you?

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (36:13):
Man, Yes, he did his job.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
He did his job right, and so yeah, so you know,
I appreciate you for coming to the show man, this
was great.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
You know, absolutely one thing we say.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
You know, once you come to the show, you're a
friend to the show, so you're always welcome to come back.
So definitely come back.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
But continue the work that you're doing.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
You know, I think the work that you're doing is
extremely important because it's given a different space than what
a lot of us know and seen and grown accustomed to.
Right this this wagging a finger kind of mentality of
the know what all right, I think you're giving just

(36:56):
an open space to say, hey, come just find out
information and that's amazing, that's amazing work. And again, you know,
we'll we'll extend the invitation that if you're doing something
made you need some visibility.

Speaker 9 (37:08):
Let us know.

Speaker 7 (37:09):
I will follow up next time. I'll come back on
the show. Will be a national organization. So I'm going to.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Oh, you're already done.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Yeah, done and done.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
It's going to happen.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
It's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
So is it anything else you feel like you want
to talk a little bit about to amplify before you leave,
because I want you to talk about see that's the
table more again some people notice, But what else would
you like to just amplify as you have that space
right now.

Speaker 7 (37:39):
Definitely want to amplify. My business to consulting services is
a data analytics business and the easiest way I can
explain that.

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Is data data, not dating.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Data.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
There we go data no.

Speaker 7 (37:54):
So basically we help our clients tell their stories by
just a bunch of information that they may have and
they don't know an easy way to kind of tell
that information, and we do it very creatively innovatively. So
I leave that at there, but a seat at the table, Philly.
It is coming November third at Free Press from one
to five pm. We're gonna have two food trucks out there.

(38:15):
It's free drinks, so it is twenty one plus unfortunately,
but fortunately for everyone else. What you have to do
is just come sign up, show up, and just get
your voices heard. And it is a true day party,
like we will be playing some good music, not like
the regular music that it'll be good. It'll be good.
And we may have like a special guest which I can't.

Speaker 4 (38:36):
Can I can I ask for a favorite though? Yes?
Can we have three shirts?

Speaker 3 (38:40):
I like this shirt asking we likely.

Speaker 7 (38:45):
This is like one of one, but I will get
more because somebody else asks me for something, else asks
me for some and I think we're going to try
to do like some more branding of the space. This
will be just being in the weeds. So yes, I
will get you all some.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Shirtsga, how can I get a contact with you and
all that goodtle stuffy?

Speaker 7 (39:01):
Yeah, so you can find me directly at Seat at
the Table I'm sorry, at C two Consulting Services dot com.
Our website is still pending. It should be up by tomorrow,
which is a Seat at the Table Philly dot org.
We also have or on Instagram and see at the
Table Philly, I mean see at the Table dot Philly.
And then my personal Instagram account is Chelsea dot r

(39:21):
dot cox. Very boring but easy if you want to
remember my name.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
Yes, there you go. There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Listen.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Excellent interview, dynamic interview. But I don't want you guys
to go anywhere when we come back.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
You got another interview coming back.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
We also got good news and bad news, and of
course the SYSM was definitely in the building. I'm your boy,
Charles Gregory with the beautiful.

Speaker 5 (39:42):
Laurence and the beautiful classy lady Spark and beautiful Chelsea
Cox and beautiful.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
She in the building. So don't go nowhere.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
We'll be right back after this. We going back to Sparkle.
Y'all will be right.

Speaker 8 (39:57):
We just want to get a little background as to
who are Fantastic Noises and the noisemakers if you can
let us know, yes, absolutely so. Once again, I am
fantastic Noise.

Speaker 9 (40:07):
I am the.

Speaker 8 (40:08):
Original noise maker. So no one's gonna make as much noise.
Ass me, okay, And right here we have the Noisemaker Band.
This is only half of it. The other stuffs are upstairs,
the my Kevin Kevin, Lamar, Lannie and Doves, who are
all the actual band members. These are the background singers
and we can to make some noise. We can to
bring that noise today. So that's that's what we would do.
That's that's right.

Speaker 9 (40:28):
How did you guys get together? Man?

Speaker 8 (40:30):
So it started with I've been doing this on my
own for almost three years now, and man, I've got
each of these people here have different background stories. Most
of us went to the same church together and we
just kept going. This one her, this is my one
of my assistants said, one of like the my my
biggest supporter of my biggest shuit of hear she's assistant.

(40:50):
So we just been building and the same thing with
upstairs with the band, just meeting through. People kept networking,
kept staying them. It was just like God or dang
bab here we are awesome.

Speaker 9 (40:59):
Ye did you guys? Do we talked weekly?

Speaker 6 (41:01):
A favor?

Speaker 8 (41:01):
Yeah? Can you give us a drop in a melody
type way, meli type way? Okay, So we talked weekly. Yea, guys,
So we're gonna do something like this.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
We talk weekly.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Come in here with us, we talk. We we come
in here, them we talk. We we come in here
them we talk. We come in here, we talk. We
come in here now we talk.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
May come in.

Speaker 7 (41:34):
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (41:35):
You guys?

Speaker 7 (41:35):
This is Britga Kelly and you are locked into the
talk weekly.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
We talked these after they talk with w p P
M LP Philadelphia one them six point five FM. We
talked weeks after the talk Dynamic interview. We had some
beautiful people in the building, you know, talk a little
bit about some civics and engaging and some of the
things that you know actually going on out there in
the streets.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
We got class late spark what's up Spark Highlight. What
did you think of.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
That that interviewing?

Speaker 4 (42:34):
I think, can you hear me?

Speaker 6 (42:37):
I think that we need what you're doing. This platform
is allowing for the voices, especially for Generation Z the millennials,
like they all really want to they they're a different
generation now. They want to amplify their voices, but they
feel like their voices are muzzled. And now they got

(42:58):
people that are saying, no, you have a voice, this
is how you use it. And these are going to
be different platforms and honestly meet them where they're at
means digital. That's what they're doing. They're looking at it
from a digital perspective on how to amplify the voices
of this new generation.

Speaker 7 (43:18):
So I think it's great.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Definitely.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
I think we got to continue to, you know, keep
amplifying those voices, continue to you know, give space, allow
space for the young, the young folk man. You know,
we we we tend to get in this space as
if we know everything or we have all the answers,
but they are a community that have answers also that

(43:40):
that affects them, have certain things and issues that affect
them specifically that we kind of grew out of right
and so we have to allow space for that as well.
And one of the things I want to allow space
also is good news and bad news ready.

Speaker 6 (43:54):
For Yeah, So real quick, it's the only bad news
that abet Yeah.

Speaker 7 (44:02):
All right.

Speaker 6 (44:03):
So I don't know if you guys heard of this story,
but thirty three year old Beveln Betty Beatty, her name
is Bevelyn Beatty Williams, she's a pro life activist, was
recently sentenced to forty one months in prison after her
involvement in a June twenty twenty incident at a planned
parenthood in Manhattan. Williams was found guilty of violating the

(44:27):
Federal FACE which is Freedom of Access to Clinical Entrance Act,
which prohibiteds using threats or force to interfere with access
to reproductive health services. So during this incident, Williams allegedly
blocked the access to the clinic by pressing herself against
the entrance and physically injuring a staff member and allegedly

(44:51):
verbally threatening clinic personnel. So this is what they're saying
she did, and this is why they're saying that she
was sent inced A four one months. Williams is a
mother of a young child and has since announced plans
to appeal her sentence, expressing that she was persecuted because.

Speaker 7 (45:09):
Of her beliefs.

Speaker 6 (45:10):
She feels as though because she was preaching the word
of God and preaching about Jesus Christ and telling people
how this was condemnation of having an abortion, she's basically
being used as an example. William has appealed the sentence,
and she claims that her actions stem from her Christian
beliefs and her past experience. She also had her own

(45:32):
abortion at fifteen, which is why she was influenced in
her activism. So she's not doing this based on something
as just her religious She's doing this because she was
once on that table. She launched a fundraiser to support
her legal calls, emphasizing her intention to advocate for religious liberties.

(45:53):
Supporters believe her punishment is unjust, viewing it as targeting
her faith rather than her actions, with some even comparing
her protests to philbusters. Uh, it's called filibuster against abortion rights.

Speaker 7 (46:07):
Four years, four that's.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
That's that's successive.

Speaker 6 (46:10):
What is third forty one months? That's three years, four years.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
That's pretty accessive.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Successive, that's successive.

Speaker 9 (46:17):
Like, I mean, even if she did.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Go in front of the door.

Speaker 6 (46:22):
That's that's a lot usually and she's in federal prison.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Oh she won't do all of that.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
That was.

Speaker 6 (46:34):
Yeah, because she was she was found violating the Federal Act,
which is the Face Act. So that's it's considered a
federal crime because it was a federal law.

Speaker 7 (46:44):
Put in place.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
See and and it's things like that when we talk
about who to vote for, that's going to call in
the question a lot, which is why I say that
we really need to do like our homework, We really
need to think about, uh, the other issues that can
affect us as we amplify our voices or try to

(47:10):
kind of shed light on certain things. And she has
a right to, you know, as long as she's not
I guess, assaulting anyone or anything. You didn't say that
she assaulted anyone.

Speaker 6 (47:21):
Allegedly, they're saying that she blocked the entrance and allegedly
she used verbal threatening and they're stating that one of
the staff members was physically injured. So they're saying when
she blocked the door, the staff member's hand got hurt.
Four years though, like I'm telling you, it's people who

(47:42):
have committed crazy, crazy crimes and have not been and
she's in federal prison, and she has a young child herself.
And the other thing is, we haven't heard about this.
People are not amplified it.

Speaker 7 (47:54):
Now they heard about it now.

Speaker 6 (47:55):
The other thing is is that this happened in twenty twenty.

Speaker 7 (47:58):
Now that's right before COVID.

Speaker 6 (48:02):
So one, federal investigations take a long time because of
the investigations and the testimonies. That's the one thing. But
then the other thing was COVID happened and then courts
just basically stopped. So this is this is an incident
that happened in twenty twenty and she was sentenced I
believe at the end of twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Yeah, well, maybe whoever become president they can look a
little bit more into something like this, policies that affect.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
And or the governor.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Right, and so when we think about, you know, who
we're voting for and why we vote, you know, those
are the particular issues that we need to think about.

Speaker 6 (48:42):
Yeah, but also I hope that if someone can get
her pardoned or time served or something like that, Like, yeah,
it's just an oxymoron for someone who is wanting to
protect life. But now they're saying that she's trying to
hurt a life. Yeah, that's why she's got sentence because
they're saying that she heard someone here. She is trying

(49:03):
to protect life, you know, appro choice. Well, all right,
the next story is it was a Florida mother, Megan Garcia.
She found a lawsuit against the artificial intelligence called character AI.
So everybody, as we talked about the digital world, this

(49:25):
is something in that digital world. Megan Garcia her claim
against the character ai chatbox.

Speaker 7 (49:32):
She's stating that it encouraged her fourteen.

Speaker 6 (49:34):
Year old son Sewell sets her to have interactions with
the AI towards self harm and manipulation, which ultimately led
to his suicide. So, according to the lawsuit, Suel tragically
ended his life by a self afflicted gunshot wound to

(49:55):
the head. The lawsuit alleges that his mental health deteriorated
do to his interactions with the chatbots on the character
ai platform, which engaged him in conversations that were reportedly
reportedly abusive and sexual, leaving him increasingly isolated and vulnerable.

(50:17):
In response to the Character AI, they state that they
are heartbroken by the tragic laws, and they have recently
implemented more safety features. So known to his friends, Sewell
was a very sensitive and intelligent young man young boy.
Because he's fourteen, Setser was often drawn to online interactions

(50:38):
where he could explore new ideas and perspectives. The family attorney,
Matthew Bergman did express concern over the emotional impact of
AI interactions on young people, highlighting that the psychological risk
when technology fosters dependencies or manipulates their behavior. So pretty much, parents,

(51:00):
know what your children are doing, Yes, have that parental guidance,
have those parental safety measures on your child's digital devices.
So for parents that are concerned about online safety and
the effects of digital interactions, please visit Common Sense Media.

(51:21):
They offer resources and guidance at www Dot common CommonSenseMedia
dot org. They include tools to help manage and understand
safe technology for children's use and also for anyone that
is thinking about suicide. The Suicide Prevention Line is available

(51:41):
for twenty four hours for crisis support at www dot
Suicide Prevention Lifeline dot org or one hundred two seventy
three Talk I'm a Girl, Classic Lady Sparco and that
was wow.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
That was good news. Band news, ladies and gentlemen. Beautiful
Laurence beautiful. That's really really sad man. You know, one
thing that I always say is, look, I know we're
doing this new parenting where we're giving our children's space.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
No, you got to be a parent, you know, be
don't don't be scared to you know, let me see
that phone, give me that phone, let me see that
phone for a minute, you know, don't be scared to
pop u. Let me see your browsing history for a
little bit. And you don't have to be hard on them,
but you can, you know, let's let's we need to
have a conversation, you know. And I know those conversations

(52:35):
are uncomfortable, but it could have been, you know. And
it's such a beautiful family. The young man and the
mother is beautiful. The son is handsome, and it seems
and you can tell he's he's a soft he as
a soft heart. But I'm sure something like that could
have been prevented in some type of way. And I
know she's heartbroken. That's such a shame. That's just such

(52:58):
a shame, man.

Speaker 7 (52:59):
And I agree with you.

Speaker 6 (52:59):
I think a lot of times parents are taking a
sensitive approach of some are wanting to be more of
their child's friend or not trying to.

Speaker 7 (53:13):
Aggravate the child, you know, like soft parenting. No, I
agree with you.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
I think.

Speaker 6 (53:20):
I think even when that incident of saying, hey, let's
have this conversation, even if you're not an authoritative type
of parent, you can still have that conversation with your
child to see where their mindset is at, because if
you don't know what's going on, if a child, everybody
has like mental health issues. When you're sad, they consider

(53:41):
that mental health. So if you're having a bad day
and it's over you know, being more consistent, or being
bullied at school, and he's writing in the AI and
asking questions of you know, how to take my life.

Speaker 7 (53:56):
Or you know, what do I do?

Speaker 6 (53:58):
And AI is talking back to him and telling him
what to do, and he carries it out. But there
are people who are asking where did the gun come from?
And who why wasn't it put away? So there are
questions that you know, because the story is public, that

(54:18):
people are asking on that, and again, you know, have
those conversations with your children, let them know.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt, No, that's I mean all legitimate questions,
all legitimate questions. But we have to start with the beginning,
which is him engaging in that first, right, and how
could we have prevented such a horrific situation at that point?

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Right?

Speaker 3 (54:44):
The gun comes later, right, but absolutely, But all of
it is great questions. And I don't want to villainize
a family, you know, it's about you know, because you
don't know what they were experiencing for them to even
have a gun, right, And so I just want to
jump on what call what was the cause, you know,

(55:06):
and then we can get on to how the how.
But yeah, but you know, unfortunately, let's we can do better.
Let's do better, ladies and gentlemen, you know, our prayers
to the family, and we hope that they find some
solace in that was that was this goodness better good
and bad news. Leads and gentlemen, I'm your boy, charged

(55:27):
Grady with the beautiful Laurence is beautiful. Next up, we
have someone through my have a tremendous amount of respect
for man. We're gonna talk a little bit about this author,
you know, and and some of the great things that
I actually like this book, you know, and I like
the idea of you know, having these authors have a

(55:48):
space to amplify their work because I think that they
don't necessarily have that oftentimes, right, and so we give
some space for that.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
So, uh, classic, are you ready for me?

Speaker 7 (56:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (56:00):
All right?

Speaker 4 (56:00):
Why don't you let us know? Who do we have
to day?

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Who do we have to day?

Speaker 7 (56:03):
Today? We have Keisha M. Tarvor.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
She embodies a multitude of roles, from a college valedictorian
to dedicated mother, philanthropist, editor in chief, and now an
accomplished author. Her debut, her debut book, Squares in My Circle,
unveils a profound narrative chronologically her journey as a strong

(56:28):
woman of color. Let's give a warm we talk weekly.
Welcome to Keisha Tarvor.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
How are you? How are you? Fantastic?

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Fantastic? I like how you ended strong black woman as
you should. So let's talk a little bit about because
I want to I want to start from the beginning, right,
let's start from the beginning. What got you into storytelling
and creating?

Speaker 10 (57:02):
Oh, I've been a creator all my life. So, like
I'll rewind, get back to like eighty nine, when I
used to like drawing into turtles on poster boards, and
then like I graduated from that to arts and crafts.

Speaker 9 (57:16):
I used to do creative writing in high school.

Speaker 10 (57:18):
And then after that I got into business for a
long time, and then like during the pandemic, I got
into writing. I picked writing up again because you know,
in high school, you know, you have that one teacher
that tells you like you're not gonna be nothing. So
I had one of those. So I fell off for
a couple of years. So I just picked it back
up during the pandemic.

Speaker 6 (57:41):
Wow, Wow, the teacher tell us more about that, like,
you know, when that happens, and we were just talking
about a young man who killed himself because of AI bots.
We're thinking about kids who are being bullied by their peers.
But you do have teachers who don't, you know, motivate
the child. And then that child comes home, you know,

(58:03):
feeling a little depressed. Tell us more about how did
you overcome that? Just for the visit the people who
are listening from the story we just talked about.

Speaker 10 (58:13):
Yeah, So that was when I was in high school.
In the twelfth grade, I took this creative writing class.
I went to Crenshaw High you know, the infamous Crenshaw High.

Speaker 9 (58:22):
So I took a writing class and then.

Speaker 10 (58:24):
I yeah, so I went there, so I took the
writing class in twelfth grade, so that was like two
thousand and one or two, and then, you know, urban
fiction was pretty popping with fly Girl the Coldest Winter ever.
So I was like, I'm going to write me something
like this. So I turned it in for my creative
writing class, and my teacher pretty much tore the shreds

(58:45):
like this is so stereotypical, like this is not gonna work.
And then I was devastated because I thought it was cool.
I thought it was good. So I didn't write again
for years after that. And then like fast forward a
couple of years after that, I was really in the church,
so we would have to write these essays on the Bible,
and then I knew like I had that when I

(59:07):
wrote an essay about like songs or proverbs and then
it moved people to tears, and I was like, hmm,
maybe I am good at writing. And then like I
carried that self out with me still after that, so
with my magazine hype off life, I would still think
like my writing isn't good, Like I would be like
nobody wants to read this, and blah blah blah, all

(59:29):
because of what that teacher told me.

Speaker 9 (59:31):
So I would just have to.

Speaker 10 (59:32):
I prayed about it, and then I would also think, like,
I just need to believe people when they say my
writing's good instead of thinking about what that teacher said
like twenty years ago. So I just got over it
by believing in myself, believing what other people told me,
letting people pour into me and actually believe in them.
But it took a while. It took a couple of

(59:53):
years for me to get over that. So like, I'm
just like, be careful what you tell these kids because
it could affect them for the rest of their lives.

Speaker 7 (01:00:02):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:00:03):
Yeah, thanks for sharing that and for giving that advice.
Now you mentioned you had a magazine called Hype Off Life.

Speaker 9 (01:00:12):
Mm hm, tell us more about that. It's a hip
hop magazine.

Speaker 7 (01:00:19):
I think there's a delay.

Speaker 9 (01:00:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, tell us more about that.

Speaker 10 (01:00:24):
So okay, So it's a hip hop magazine. I created
it to show love to like emerging artists and business
owners because they don't get loved. So before I started that,
I was a hip hop blogger. I was West Coast Keish,
so I was in the underground a lot. So I
would show at Highlight a lot of underground artists and
then they would complain like there's no platforms popping that

(01:00:47):
want to feature us. They only feature people that's popping,
Like what about them? Between people? So I just decided
to be the change I want to see and start
highlighting those people. Like I didn't create it to be
like up here, like a top tier, Like I'm not
saying it's not top tier, but I created it to
be a springboard to the next level for artists. So

(01:01:08):
like I did interviews with Lola brook when she was
coming up. I did some with Cash Cobang Tuci and
also did some with some legacy artists like Mike Jones
Yo Yo sthadotics like a whole bunch of people, Like
I just believe in showing love. Just spread love. It's
the American way or the Brooklyn way, that La way.

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Just spread love is free.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
So that's.

Speaker 7 (01:01:33):
You said you did you had yo Yo?

Speaker 9 (01:01:37):
Yeah? She was real cool. Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:01:39):
I asked her a question like what makes you think,
like why do artists like get into acting and why
does that seem so easy for them, like cause you
know a lot of rappers they start acting and doing
other creative stuff. And she just said, like basically, it's.

Speaker 9 (01:01:54):
In you, not on you.

Speaker 10 (01:01:56):
And I was like, yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
But that was a really good.

Speaker 9 (01:02:01):
So I did one with her.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:02:04):
I just love music, so it's just like I'm creative,
Like I get to merge my love for art in
writing with my magazine.

Speaker 9 (01:02:13):
So it's like the perfect fit for me.

Speaker 7 (01:02:15):
So perfect segue.

Speaker 6 (01:02:18):
Tell us more about your your your magazine. Well that
was hype off life, So now you have your an
author now, so squares in my circle? Tell us more
about that? Is that more of a that's more of
a book?

Speaker 10 (01:02:31):
Correct, Yes, it's a book. It's a little it's a novella.
It's not like a full novel. People tell me they
liked it because it's so short they could read it
in a day, but it like packs a punch, so
I got into that. It was actually it actually started
off as a short story. The first chapter called FaceTime
that was supposed to be it. And then I would

(01:02:53):
say I shared it with my friends and they were
like what is this, Like are you going to continue
the story? And then I was, hm, hm, might as well.
So that's how that came about. And then I dropped
the book last year. Everybody that ready it, they love
it and they're like t sugar, Like where did this
story come from?

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Like what?

Speaker 6 (01:03:13):
Like give us, give us a brief description about without
giving it away so people can still purchase the book.

Speaker 10 (01:03:24):
Okay, so the book is set in Los Angeles during
the pandemic because that was a tumultuous time for everybody,
but it's said in LA and the main character is
boss Lady. So Boss Lady, she's a boss, she owns
a fashion friend, and she's a multimillionaire, so she gets
like whoever she wants, she does whatever she wants. So

(01:03:44):
she has a stud DFF named Blue, She has a
fiance named Curtis and a girlfriend named Alex. So she
just gets into trouble having all those and juggling everybody.
It's a really crazy story.

Speaker 6 (01:03:57):
Wait a minute, Okay, so she's a million there and
her bff is a stud and what else.

Speaker 10 (01:04:06):
She has a fiance and a girlfriend, like she does
not care like she wants and who she wants and what.

Speaker 6 (01:04:18):
Kind of person and boss Lady, what kind of personality
does boss Lady have?

Speaker 10 (01:04:24):
She's real cool, she's chill, like she'll like tell you
what it is and she's not here for any drama.
Like you can like leave that over there, and she's
about her money, about her cash, like she's a real
boss and she just does not take nobody's stuff. And
she's also like kind of like on the freaking nest

(01:04:46):
rightout just say that.

Speaker 6 (01:04:49):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 9 (01:04:50):
So what was.

Speaker 6 (01:04:51):
The creative process behind this? Like what what birth this book?

Speaker 9 (01:04:56):
Like?

Speaker 6 (01:04:56):
Where did where did your mind go in order to
h bring up these characters?

Speaker 10 (01:05:03):
Well, for me, writing is real spiritual to me, So
like I'm just saying like I'll just sit there and
I'll just write what I see in my mind. So
those characters just came to me out of boredom. I
was like bored during the pandemic, and I was like
I want to write something, and that's what came to
my mind. And then it just kept going and going
and going, and then.

Speaker 9 (01:05:24):
I was like what is this?

Speaker 10 (01:05:26):
Like when I was editing it, I was like laughing
to myself, like, girl, I cannot believe you wrote this
because the story is so crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:05:36):
So you edited your own book?

Speaker 9 (01:05:40):
Yeah, you were edited editor in chief?

Speaker 7 (01:05:44):
Yeah, so tell us, tell us how is that?

Speaker 6 (01:05:46):
How does that? How does that look when you're editor
in chief of your own of your own of your
own book.

Speaker 10 (01:05:54):
Oh well, I just wrote it, and then like I
had to go back and change a lot of the
name because like if you know, you know, so like
a lot of the names, there were name brands in there,
and there were famous people in there. And then I
had to go back and make up some stuff like
pretty and the kiddy that's supposed to be somebody, semyon

(01:06:16):
SEMy that's supposed to be somebody, Like I had to
change the names of a lot of things. So I
just did that, and then I also designed the book too,
not the cover, but I designed the layout. It was
pretty fun editing it.

Speaker 9 (01:06:29):
I would just.

Speaker 10 (01:06:29):
Going back and seeing what I could change and how
it could make it more interesting for everybody.

Speaker 7 (01:06:35):
Awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:06:35):
Now, you mentioned about the question you had asked Yo
Yo about how rappers go right into acting. My question
to you is that a lot of writers start to
write for actors, like you know, a lot of times
their novels, they want to see it on the screen
or someone literally those characters come to life. So is

(01:06:58):
that something that you look forward to doing?

Speaker 9 (01:07:02):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 10 (01:07:02):
I want to turn it into a movie, like for real,
I have so many like ideas in my head. I
want to get into a film too. So I've actually
been considering going to film school just add more to
my play that more than there's more than there is
there right now. So I am trying to get into

(01:07:24):
a film in the future.

Speaker 7 (01:07:25):
Oh nice.

Speaker 9 (01:07:26):
So just feel like there's a lot of stories. Oh
what were you.

Speaker 7 (01:07:31):
Saying, no, go ahead, finish your st.

Speaker 10 (01:07:35):
Yeah, I was saying there's a lot of untold stories
that need to be told, like Boss Lady story, Like
a lot of people don't know about like the LGBTQ
life because they like go by with the media portrays,
it's always one sided. So I just wanted to show
the different aspects and different types of characters than like
archetypes you'll find in life. So I just feel like

(01:07:56):
there's a lot of stories that still need to be told,
and I want to be one of the people to
tell those stories.

Speaker 6 (01:08:02):
Awesome, who would you look at in regards to film
actor wise that you would want to represent your characters
or even director wise?

Speaker 10 (01:08:15):
That's a good question. I grew up on a lot
of Singleton. I grew up loving Spike Lee and who
else of Hype Williams stuff, remember him with the music
videos and Belly. I like look up to them. And
as far as actor wise, you know, it would be
doth to have Tiana Taylor in one of my videos.

(01:08:39):
That would be crazy and get a lot of like
upcoming talent in there. And because you know, like Boys
in the Hood, like he called a lot of people
like he gave like I wouldn't say he gave them
their story, but he put a lot of like dope
upcoming people in his movies. So I would like to
do that too.

Speaker 7 (01:08:56):
I agree.

Speaker 6 (01:08:57):
Like when I was watching like Boys the Hood, I'm like,
oh wait, you know More's Chestnut, Cooper Good and juniors, uh,
Laurence Fishburne, like they were all upcoming actors in that.
In that film Ice Cube too, like and you know,
now it's like, you know, so yeah, I agree, And

(01:09:17):
I think Tyler Perry does that. He does a lot
of uh no face, no name until they you know,
reach his platform and then you know, it's all.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:09:29):
That goes back to my magazine, Like the main purpose
of my magazine showing love, giving people that springboard to
the next level. So everything's interconnected with me. I like
to a cross promoting all types of stuff. So I
don't mind showing people love because you know, some people
they'll be like, you know, don't want to congratulate anybody.

(01:09:52):
So I'm all like, if it's dope, I'm gonna tell
you that. Like if I could help you, I'm gonna
help you. So that's the type of person I am.

Speaker 6 (01:10:01):
Okay, what has been some of your I guess unexpected
lessons that you've learned as an author?

Speaker 10 (01:10:10):
Oh well, I learned to make sure your cover matches
your content. A lot of like you already my book.
So a lot of people they will buy the book
and they think it's like one off flowery. Then when
they open it, it's like their head gets blown back
because it doesn't match the cover. Like it's like a

(01:10:32):
shock to them. So make sure your cover matches your content.
And then I also learned that you got to promote
your stuff before you even start writing it, like do
a beta group, get an art group going, have people
be your beta readers. And then you also want to
promote it well after it's released. So promotion and making

(01:10:52):
sure your content and your cover line those are my
two main lessons that I learned.

Speaker 6 (01:10:59):
Yeah, because I'm looking at the cover and the cover
looks real sweet, I know the boss lady and all
her friends and yeah, yeah, but I think it's I Also,
I'm the kind of person who I'll put stripes and

(01:11:19):
plaid and poke it out all together, where you know,
stylish or designers tell you that those those prints don't
go together. So I kind of like the fact that
your cover looks like that. It's not like Zane yeh
her covers are.

Speaker 9 (01:11:34):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:11:35):
Yeah, I wanted it to be like that, but I'm like,
if I wanted to sell more books, like I should
have made it more edgy, but I was like, this
is pretty I wanted to be like classy because it's
not like hardcore erotica, and it's also not hardcore core
urban fiction. It's like somewhere in between. So I didn't
want it to be one or the other. I wanted

(01:11:57):
it to like biggle some people's minds, like it's one
of those if you know, you know books.

Speaker 6 (01:12:02):
Right right, that hidden secret. So yeah, in your bio,
I mentioned Vale victorian, dedicated mother, philanthropists, like all these
hats that you wear, like how do you how do
you balance it all?

Speaker 10 (01:12:22):
Well, I'm gonna tell me. So a couple of years ago,
like maybe like fifteen years ago, I knew this lady.
She had five kids. I have five kids too, but
at the time I had two, and she always looked
cool like she was stressing. She wasn't worried. She was
well put together. She was by y'all, kids ain't gonna
run knee. So I asked her how do you do that?

(01:12:44):
I'm like, what's your secret? Cause I need to know.
And then she told me her secret. She was like,
I have a planner. And then I was like, what
is that simple? So I got a planner. That's the
only way I get all this stuff done. I make
my schedule every Sunday for the whole week. So that's
the secret.

Speaker 9 (01:13:02):
Have a planner.

Speaker 6 (01:13:03):
Yeah, just stay organized.

Speaker 10 (01:13:07):
M you gotta stay organized like I like to use.
I use a physical planner, and I also use my
my Apple calendar, and I have an outlet calendar and
then I color code them. I have different calendars within
the calendar, so I always know what I'm doing. Other
than that, it won't get done because I'll totally forget
about stuff because I have so much stuff going on
all the time.

Speaker 7 (01:13:28):
I agree with you on that one.

Speaker 6 (01:13:30):
If it wasn't, I mean, even my Alexa, I'll tell
her to remind me of like ten minutes before a.

Speaker 7 (01:13:36):
Meeting just to go off.

Speaker 6 (01:13:38):
So I'll remember.

Speaker 9 (01:13:41):
Now you mentioned you.

Speaker 6 (01:13:42):
Had five children.

Speaker 9 (01:13:45):
Yeah, I do awesome.

Speaker 7 (01:13:49):
Well you look great.

Speaker 6 (01:13:50):
You look great, And evidently they are on a plan.
They got a mama with a planner and everything, so
I know they're organized. My question to you was, do
you do you see any any of the writing ability
in them?

Speaker 10 (01:14:05):
My oldest son he likes to write, and my daughter
she likes to write. I have four boys, and my
last child is my daughter, so both of them like
to write. Then my middle son he likes to write raps,
and my last son, my youngest son, he doesn't really
like to write. But my second oldest son, he's in
the music too. So it does flow through our veins

(01:14:26):
because my dad he used to play the bass guitar,
and my mom she had a whole insane record collection,
and then that was it just gets passed down from
generation to generation. At one point I had like eight
hundred CDs, so it's just eight.

Speaker 6 (01:14:43):
Yep, all right, So tell me what what's saying. First
of all, what I guess, what's your top five out
of them eight hundred CDs?

Speaker 10 (01:14:53):
So at that time it was like two thousand and seven.
I had like eight hundred CDs. So my top jag Edge,
Jy Heartbreak, and then also like Aliyah her last album.
And then what else was I listening to? I used
to like Timberland and Magoo like from the Basement, I

(01:15:13):
think that's what it was called.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
And then.

Speaker 10 (01:15:19):
I can't remember because it's so many, but my top
three were Jay Heartbreak and then Timberland and Magoo and
whatever else I said, because I can't remember. I listened
to so much music right now, and even back then,
I had like so many CDs. The Warehouse Music used
to take all my money because you know, Cee, these
were like twenty dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:15:40):
Yeah, at one point I'm showing my age because they
were like a penny remember the penny CDs?

Speaker 9 (01:15:47):
Oh the Columbia House.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
I was all listen.

Speaker 6 (01:15:53):
They were coming in the mail. I have never sent
them money ever, and they were still sending me. See you,
they're still sending up. So who do you listen to now?
And tell us like, I guess, do you know? Some
people have to listen to music to like get into
the mood of writing, to get rid of that writer's block,

(01:16:14):
Like how do you prepare and does music have influence
on that?

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:16:19):
Yeah, like in my books Where's in My Circle? You
could like see the musical influence in it. Like Boss
Lady talks about her playlist, her playlist which you can
like stream, like if you buy the book, it's a
QR code for the playlist.

Speaker 9 (01:16:36):
So she talks about her playlist.

Speaker 10 (01:16:37):
Being popping for her little rendezvous, and then it talks
about some artists in there, like one of the characters
towards the end is the artist that you might could
figure out. So like to prepare for writing first, like
I'll just sit down and then I'll see think about
like whatever I see in my head, and then I'll
think about the end from the beginning. So then I'll

(01:17:00):
just fill in the gaps and then like I write
in verse. So that book, I wrote it in three verse.
So the first time I wrote the first chapter, then
the second verse I wrote like half of it, and
then the last part I wrote it in like two days.
So I just got to be inspired and have the
time and have like the creative capacity to write the book.

(01:17:22):
Other than that, it flows from me easy. I have
like fiftyst to write.

Speaker 9 (01:17:28):
One of them. Is going to be called well, I
can't tell you, but.

Speaker 6 (01:17:31):
No, right it's not another Yeah, hold go in it
because I won't nobody take the name.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:17:41):
I want to tell you guys so bad, but I'm
not because it's like a really crazy name.

Speaker 6 (01:17:46):
Well, Keisha, where can they find Where can they find
your book?

Speaker 10 (01:17:50):
You can find it on squares inmcircle dot com, so
you could buy it directly from me and then I
will sign your copy. I will mail to you, and
then you can tell whoeverybody's did send me a DM
or something and tell me what your favorite party is,
your favorite line. Because the story is crazy and you

(01:18:12):
could read it in like a short amount of time,
but it acts a punch because I wrote it to
pull the reader along, like so like you can't put
it down. It's just like not to like tooth my home.
But yeah, it's a good story. Like when I read it,
I'm like, wow, girl, you crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:18:31):
I don't want to read it. I haven't read it.

Speaker 6 (01:18:33):
Did we I don't think we got a copy. Oh
yes we did get a copy. Okay, I just know
I'm I'm actually going to read it and I'm a
DMU and let you know, Okay, definitely, and I know we're.

Speaker 7 (01:18:46):
Going to be seeing it.

Speaker 6 (01:18:47):
We're going to be seeing it soon on that big screen.

Speaker 9 (01:18:52):
Hey yeah, and let me get a Netflix deal or
something that's right.

Speaker 6 (01:18:56):
And I love your personality. I mean we laughed through
the whole interview.

Speaker 7 (01:19:04):
Keisha.

Speaker 6 (01:19:05):
Uh, tell everybody where they can find you, and tell
us again about where they can find your book.

Speaker 9 (01:19:12):
Okay.

Speaker 10 (01:19:13):
You can find me on Instagram at low key in
Los Angeles because I'm low key in Los Angeles meaning
nobody sees me unless I want you to. I just
like my les and go do what I need to do.
So that's where that comes from. And then you can
follow my magazine at Hype off Life meaning Hype off Life.

(01:19:36):
It's like High off Life but hype because I like
to promote like positivity. And then you can buy my
book at squaresimocircle dot com and let me know how
you like it. It's a pretty savage less story, so
that should tell you everything you need to know.

Speaker 6 (01:19:53):
Okay, all right, well y'all heard it. If she sent
for you, then don't come because she be low Kaisha,
thank you so much for just you know, sharing your
information with us. Y'all already know where to find her.
Don't go anywhere. We got more to come. Thanks again, Kisha.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Nice wait.

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Lawrence and the beautiful.

Speaker 7 (01:20:58):
Classy ladies Sparco.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
Let me, let me, let me.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
Somebody was like Joy David was like, hey, she was
shouting her oute. You know, I appreciate when all of
the you know, the fans and followers and friends of
uh the authors or any of the guests come on
because they get a chance to support you know, their
their they're friends, you know the people who they follow.

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
So that's a good look.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
So shout out to Joy Davis for supporting her friend
really heavy.

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
So you already know what time it is. You ready
for me?

Speaker 7 (01:21:31):
Yes, I am.

Speaker 5 (01:21:32):
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and you can go to donate and you can make
a secure donation through PayPal. So the bee hives highly
anticipated political moment came when Beyonce made an appearance to
show her support at VP Kamala Harris's Houston rally focusing

(01:22:18):
on abortion rights. So, you know, when they had the
DNC Beyonce, the Beehive was all going crazy like and
they being they bringing Beyonce out and it was all
this little hoop lig going on and it never was
in the cards for her to do the DNC. That

(01:22:39):
was a little a lot of people had their little
no controversial thoughts on that. But this time Beyonce did
show up and she was accompanied on stage by fellow
Destiny's Child member and longtime friend Kelly Rowland, and the
pair were introduced by Beyonce's mother, Tina Knowles, who has
also been an ouse has also been out and her

(01:23:01):
support for VP Harris. But Kelly and Beyonce's empowering introduction
speeches had the crowd going bananas as they advocated for
booting abortion rights and their support for VP Harris. Beyonce said,
I'm not here as a celebrity, I'm not here as
a politician. I'm here as a mother. But although Texas

(01:23:22):
is not a battleground state, it is one of the
states with strict abortion laws, banning abortion under almost all circumstances.
So VP Harris says, it is very it is a
very important state, and we are here to really highlight that. Sadly,
the elected leaders of Texas, a lot of them, have
made Texas, made Texas ground zero and this fundamental fight

(01:23:48):
for the freedom of women to make decisions about their
own body. So tonight we will be discussing the impact
of that not only to the women and their families,
but to people around the country because Trump abortion bands,
because of Trump abortion bands. So shout out to Kelly
Rowland and Beyonce. I thought, you know, I thought their

(01:24:11):
speech and everything was very empowering and they really had
the crowd on their feet. Though, Chicago rapper and rising
star Little Dirk was arrested on charges of murder for
hire and a target it hit against rapper Kwondo Rondo.
The murder for higher plot stems from the twenty twenty

(01:24:33):
murder of rapper King Vond Dirk, whose real name is
Dirk Devonte Banks. Arrest comes on the hill Hills of
the arrest of five other men who have ties to
A Little Dirk and his only the family group. So
some of the charges against these men include conspiracy to
commit murder for hire and the use of a machine gun.

(01:24:55):
Prosecutors have alleged they plotted to kill Kwondo Rondo in
twenty twenty two and Btaliti for King Bond. Allegedly they
went to Los Angeles to kill Kwando Rondo but instead
killed his cousin Little Pop. So Little Dirk started OTFN
twenty ten and released six albums. He's collaborated with Drake

(01:25:16):
for his Laugh Down, Cry Later song and Jay Cole
All My Life, for which he won a Grammy. And
Dirk had just started promoting his upcoming album Deep Thoughts
right before this arise, so he's allowed to have orchestrated
and funded this entire ordeal. So yeah, that's a little sad.

Speaker 7 (01:25:37):
I like Little Dirk. It's just sad to hear that.
Sad to hear that.

Speaker 5 (01:25:47):
So brothers Laud and Menendez, who were convicted of the
killing of their parents in nineteen ninety six, will now
have an opportunity to have their sentences reconsidered. So back
in nineteen the brothers who were eighteen and twenty one
at the time, were shot and killed. I'm sorry where
eighteen twenty one at the time shot and killed their parents,

(01:26:10):
Jose and Kitty Menendez in their Beverly Hills mansion, and
they claimed self defense, alleging a lifetime of physical and
sexual abuse by their father. The first trial ended a mistrial,
with the second trial ending in a conviction, so they
were sentenced to life from prison without the possibility of parole.
But now in La District, Attorney George Gaskin fiuled emotion,

(01:26:37):
recommending a judge resentenced them. So this comes just after
the Netflix filmed The Menendez Brothers. Many have seen that
social media has also been going crazy over the last
couple years about fair case, but attorney Gaston told CNN,
I will never excuse murder, and those were brutal, premeditated murders.

(01:27:00):
They were appropriately sentenced at the time.

Speaker 7 (01:27:02):
When they were.

Speaker 5 (01:27:03):
Tried, they got life without life without the possibility of parole.
I just think that given the current state of the law,
and given our assessment of their behavior in prison, they
deserve the opportunity to be reevaluated and perhaps reintegrated into
the community. So the new evidence that they have now

(01:27:25):
The presented in twenty twenty three. It includes a sworn
statement by former Menudo boy Band member Roy Roussello, who
alleges the father, Jose Menendez, molested him in the eighties.

Speaker 4 (01:27:39):
Hold on, wait wait wait wait, So what was the father?

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
Who was the father in entertainment or something?

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
How was he? Now?

Speaker 7 (01:27:48):
So?

Speaker 5 (01:27:49):
And I don't remember exactly his whole story, but he
came from I forget what country he came from, but
he came over here and then he kind of built
an empire from himself. He was like an executive or
something like that in entertainment. He worked with different groups.

(01:28:10):
I'm mad because I cannot remember exactly the name of
the groups and stuff that he worked with.

Speaker 7 (01:28:20):
How was a record company?

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
But Manuda was big back then.

Speaker 5 (01:28:25):
Yes, yeah, the Manudo Boys or something like that. They
were big back then. So one of the one of
the boys is alleging that the dad had molested them.
But when he came to the US, the dad he
was broken, but he worked hard to kind of build

(01:28:46):
this his estate, in this empire and all that he
met and married the wife who I believe was all
she oh man, she was either a model, or something
like that, met her and married her. He came from Cuba,
met her and married her. They had the two kids,

(01:29:09):
and then they he went on to have millions of dollars.
And I think a part of you know, a part
of the case that you know, prosecutors were using at
the time was that they cut the boy the dad

(01:29:30):
cut the boys out of the wheel and they were
going to get I think an estimate of fourteen million
dollars inherited, but they got cut out of the wheel.
So the prosecutor was trying to say, like that was
part of the reason for them killing, you know, murdering
their parents. That was a motive it murdering the parents.
But then also Eric Menendez, he wrote a letter, this

(01:29:53):
was right before the murders to his cousin about the
abuse abuse from his father. So they they're saying that
some family members are saying that they were either aware
because they I guess talked to one of the boys
and they were.

Speaker 7 (01:30:09):
Aware about the abuse. They approached the.

Speaker 5 (01:30:11):
Mother with it and she denied it and didn't believe it.
And you know that's when they were younger, So I
guess Eric was confiding in a cousin telling him what
was going on, and so they were there now using
the letter that he wrote as part of the evidence.
But the hearing could possibly be held within the next

(01:30:33):
forty five days with the possibility of the brothers being
resentenced to fifty years and with them committing the crime
when they were under twenty six years old. There's a
California law that says they could be eligible for youthful parole,
and they were also model prisoners, So the attorneys believe

(01:30:54):
that that will be in their favor when they go
before the parole board. But the other's families are also
hoping they will finally be released, and Kim Kardashian, who
has advocated for the brothers, is also calling for their release.
But one thing, you know, when I was looking back
at this trial and during the trial, this is just crazy.

(01:31:18):
The prosecutor, Pamela Bosanich. Bozanich argued that men could not
be raped. I don't know why that was not called
out then, but that was her argument during trial. Men
could not be raped. And they're saying that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
If she don't know about prison, she never heard about prison,
that she's trying to put them in prison.

Speaker 4 (01:31:45):
She don't never heard what happens in prison.

Speaker 5 (01:31:48):
It's just it's insane that she was able to use
that argument. But they, you know, they're saying that if
these two brothers were white women, would they have gotten
all of this time that they got. They even brought
up no, absolutely not. Yeah, yeah, they even brought up
I can't think of her name right now.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
I imagine if they was black.

Speaker 5 (01:32:13):
Yeah, but they even I'm pretty much done. But they
even brought up the the the girl that killed her
mom and and she got out and now she's a celebrity. Yeah,
Rebecca the other one isn't her name Rebecca Sneethe or something,
not that one. She's the one that she's been doing like, uh,

(01:32:34):
she did a reality show of something. She's been doing
all these interviews. Yeah, oh my gosh, her mom like
handicapped her, yes, Jesse Rose, Yes, yes. So they were saying, like,
even she got off after you know, what happened to
her mom, and and now she's just like a celebrity now.

Speaker 6 (01:32:55):
Also, the brothers they just recently saw each other for
the first time after.

Speaker 5 (01:33:00):
Like a lot of years, right, yeah, because they were
both in two different prisons and now they're in the
same prison and they're able to see each other.

Speaker 7 (01:33:08):
I guess, like you.

Speaker 5 (01:33:10):
Know, when they go out to the yard and you know,
stuff like that, maybe during eating time.

Speaker 6 (01:33:14):
Was that intentional for them to put them in the
same person.

Speaker 5 (01:33:18):
I don't I don't know that part. I don't know.
It probably was intentional to keep them apart. So it
had to be like, maybe you know, they fit that
I got to look into that. Maybe they figured out
a way where they could be together. But that's yeah,
it's crazy. Damn, I'm your girl, Lawrence Sizzle And that

(01:33:39):
was the sizzle And.

Speaker 4 (01:33:42):
Hold on, you don't have a celebrity show.

Speaker 5 (01:33:44):
Now you have a long story.

Speaker 4 (01:33:49):
Oh no, I got you, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:50):
So we talked weeks after the Talking w ppm P
Philadelphia one O six point five F and we talked
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Speaker 7 (01:33:56):
Beautiful Lawrence Beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
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Speaker 6 (01:34:06):
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