Qawi Abdul-Rahman on Justice, Community & the Fight for Fair Courts

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We are loah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, y'all. We talked.
We's after they talking the PPM of PEP Philadelphia one
O six point five FM. We talked week lease after
they talk with your boy, Charles Gerdon, beautiful, beautiful Lawrence.
We are definitely in the house to day or this evening,

(00:22):
I guess you could say this evening. We have a
lot to cover. We're a little late. One of our
guests fell ill, you know, and so, uh, we gave
her some grace today, so she'll be back on the show,
I'm sure. And then we have another interview with this
brother coming in. We're gonna talk a little bit about that.
And then of course we got some uh we got

(00:44):
we got good news news, Yeah, we got goodness. All right,
we got some good news and bads, and then we
got the sizzle in the building. We're gonna give us
some stuff, talk a little bit about some civics, right,
and so before we do anything, you know, I gotta
ask you guys, how would your day? How was your dating?

Speaker 2 (00:59):
My day was?

Speaker 3 (00:59):
My think was cool? I slept a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
I'm dealing with a lot of illness in the family.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Uh death, It just strained me.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
A lot of other stuff that's hello, okay, a lot
of other stuff that's going on.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
I just yeah, I think now that the spring is
starting to blossom.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah, I think things are starting.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Well, there's another shot I want to give.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I want to show this little contraption right here.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
No no, no, no no no, I don't know. I won't
even show that.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
There's a name, but there is this contraption. My little
brother had one of these, and he was like, little sparks.
After you drink it out of this, you will not
ever drink water the same.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
So it's like an oxenizer type of thing. You just
pot regular spring water in it and you click it.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
So I want to know if people could come and
just to tell me, is this a like a you know, they.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Call it placebo? Where's your You think something going on?

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Is it just the led light that's making these little
bubbles come up? Because I feel like I taste something different.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
I feel like that. So m yeah, but that was it.
That was pretty much my dad.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
You were sold. Huh, I said you were sold.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
H Well he got it for again because I was like,
all right, I'm gonna put it in my Amazon basket.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
And then next thing, I know, it's at the door,
and I'm.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Like, did I pay for this? Did I write it?

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Then I looked at it. You know you could track
your orders, and I was like, oh no, no you didn't.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
But he was so adamant, like it was he had
to drive the fact that he thinks that the water
tastes different.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
So from what I just drank, I will say it
does taste fresher. Okay, it tastes it tastes more.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Refreshing, more refreshing.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was my day.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
All right, it's so all right, cool? I do I
want to know who because it's it's constant debate on
what's the best water? Period without that contraption, right, but
who makes the best water?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
And what I know? Who got the worst water?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I say, yes anything. First of all, they make chocolate,
so I ain't trying to drink anything that that they
make chocolate from. But in any event, right, you said Nestlie.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
That's I hate aquafina. I hate aquafina. I hate Nestleie.
Some you could taste chlorine in them sometimes. Yeah, yeah,
it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
What's your what's your take on that?

Speaker 3 (03:39):
What's your the best?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
What's your worst.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
My worst is I want to say, I think it's aquafina.
I think it is.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, I feel like I remember they were so hyped
when it came out, like yeah, and it just was terrible.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
It's horrible.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
And then I can't do the erics like I can't
do uh the basket and bowl. I don't like them.
I don't like the I just don't. I don't like
the generic ones either, because they.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Like the store brand.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, they feel like mm hmmmm.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
But then is there do people? Do you feel a
difference between distilled.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Spring I don't like this and purified because they tell
you that, Yeah, I like this.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Still I actually drunk, still drunk, It's all right, it
doesn't taste like anything.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah. But my favorite is smart water.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Yeah, which which one.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
The the Yeah the smart the smart water right, and
they got they have not none of the flavors.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
No, they have one that's they say that it's uh
infuse with electrolytes or something like that.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Yeah, that one, Oh, the one that got the alkaline
and I like, yeah, I like the alcohol.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
What's the name? Was good too? What is it? Fiji
Fiji water?

Speaker 1 (05:12):
I like you like the way Fiji tastes for some reason.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Oh, I love it.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
I don't drink Fiji too much. All right, all right,
so you're ready for good news and bad news.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
We got, y'all gotta tell us how y'all.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I'm sorry not I'm talking about water. That's you in
an aquaina.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
That's so, y'all think I'm buddy. I think I'm buddy.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Right, what you guys? That new toy system for that?
That was my song. I was trying to find this one.
There you go, all right, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
My day was all right. I mean, I won't be labor.
It is nothing special, that's all. That's it.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
What you do today?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Though, Sizzo, Did you go to your stage? Did you
get your million dollars pictures?

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Your art work? None of your day?

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Real interest?

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Grocery store? What's aggravation and grocery store?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Which store you're shopping at?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I just I went to a shot right, and I
hated it. I hated everything about it.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Shot right? Which one?

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Did you have to take your own bags?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
No? They got a nice one. Now they got a
nice shot right by, like you going out the Springfield,
like you going out to Springfield.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yes, it's some it's some supermarkets that it's an experience,
like when you go to a fresh grocer. That's an
experience because they got an area to the side where
you can sit down and you can eat, and you know,
they got you can you can have lunch, you can,
it's it's it's an experience. But then they got the ones.
It's like, I want to get out of here. I

(07:01):
don't even want to go in here. Can I order
curve side?

Speaker 3 (07:05):
That's what you want to say.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
They got the ghetto.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Small it's like a match box and everybody just ripping
and running all over the place.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
So what's your favorite supermarket? Then?

Speaker 2 (07:17):
I don't know. I think I like, I like I'm
Whole Foods. I mean that's I like going there. The
Shot because like they got like all the other stuff
where it's like the the owls with the vitamins, the
the stuff that you know for your skin and all that.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
So I like that that's where they excel at. I
like Trader Jewels, Treated Jewels.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Trader Jews cool too overpriced, both of them.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
The way.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
You have to take your own bags, Sizzle.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
And shot right, you do right to take your own back. Yeah,
or I don't know if they have the ones that
you can buy. They used to have been cardboard.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
They tell you take this cardboard box and keep it.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
I don't mind. I don't like shopping.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
That was a save a lot.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Save a lot. Oh yeah, save a lot, do that too,
I'll do I'll do that. It's all the our Well
I don't know a l DR.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Right, yeah, what's it made to? Madam?

Speaker 3 (08:21):
What's up with you?

Speaker 1 (08:22):
See?

Speaker 3 (08:22):
How was your day?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Busy?

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Long? All right?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
We need more information.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
It was busy, long and longer. I'm just saying like
it's just running around as usual. You know, it's always
just a lot preparing for the show, handling all this business.
But Juneteenth is coming up. I got some news about
June teams, so that might be a good look. So
we talked weekly maybe at Juneteenth, covering Juneteenth, y'all. So

(08:50):
if you do see it's, come by, get a quick
little interview, sit down with us, talk to check what it's.
You know, we in these streets, man, so we want
to talk to the good for So come to Juneteenth
right in the community.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
Man.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
You know, this is a p s A. You know
what I'm saying. The commercial this is a ps A.
You know, June teef is for the folk, the good
old folks, people in the community. And so it's good
to see a gathering of people. And as long as
I have been there, I've never seen any issues, no
problems or anything like that. That's why I like June teeenth.
The grandmams be out there, the baby doing baby, you know,

(09:25):
you know, the goons be out there, you know what
I mean. But everybody that you know what what?

Speaker 3 (09:34):
That's how he said, I know, baby, what's up?

Speaker 5 (09:42):
Dog?

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Like, who'll be doing that?

Speaker 6 (09:44):
Now?

Speaker 1 (09:44):
I don't like to do that no more.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
What's up?

Speaker 6 (09:47):
Dog?

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Especially not how you're doing it? But that's what you're
ready for. Good news and bad news. Get it to
good news.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Class leaves park while so we have a packed good
news and bad news.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
All right.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
As y'all know, I've been doing like a sixty second
Trump administration update.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
All right.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
So here's what's making headlines under the Trump's presidency. All right,
there's a shutdown to try to be avoided. Congress has
passed a six month funding bill now waiting on for
Trump's signature, So hopefully the government shutdown will not happen.
Crime crackdown, a major push against fittinhol aims to curve overdoses.

(10:31):
So a lot of this tariff stuff that the President
was talking about, he's now trying to allude that it's
more for the push against Fitnahl coming into the US.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Trade war escalates.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
European Union hits back with a twenty eight billion dollars
in tariffs after Trump's steal in aluminum taxes.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Did y'all hear about that?

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, they're they're not gonna they're saying, basically, they're not
going to be bullied.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
This is this is Canada who the.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
European travel restrictions, the new visa bands could affect citizens
from forty one countries, the diversity programs band, the court
temporarily okay, Trump's band on DEI initiatives and government and
federal contractors, which we've all been talking a lot about,

(11:25):
and a lot of pushback and resistance has been, you know,
towards the Trump presidency on those those dei's initiatives.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
So that was your sixty second Trump administration update.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
All right, So for our first good news and bad
news story, there are four groups that aren't talk to
buy TikTok's platform. The US operations before the April deadline.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Oracle already is handling.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
TikTok's cloud storage is the top contender. Billionaire Frank McCort
and Reddit co founder Alexis o'hanian wants to buy it
and make it more user control. Microsoft is also interested
in tech entrepreneur Jesse Tinsley, back by YouTube star mister Beast,

(12:14):
has joined the race. Trump says that all bidders are
strong and he wants the US to get fifty percent ownership.
He also opened to extending the deadline to make a
deal happen. All right, We're going to stay tuned for
updates about that. Now, here's a fun twist. Mister Beest,
the YouTube megastar known for giving away millions.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Have y'all seen mister Beast any of his game shows?

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Have you know who?

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Mister Bee says, I've.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
Been watching That girl won a whole island. All right,
he could end up owning part of TikTok. Again, fifty
percent of this is supposed to go to the US. Now,
if his group wins, we might see different viral challenges
and giveaways built right into the platform. Plus oracles. Larry
Elson is a close front of Trump. He could play

(13:01):
a major role in shaping TikTok's future. This sale isn't
just about business. It could change how we use social media. Also,
did y'all hear that Meek.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Mill put in a bid to buy TikTok?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
What he got that BG?

Speaker 4 (13:17):
Well, no, people are saying that Meek doesn't have the
financial backing for TikTok, which is worth three hundred billion dollars. Yeah,
just like I'm laughing, that's what they were like, you
don't have this.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
This is this is this is old white money, right right, Well.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
I mean mister Beach, just mister beast. Did oh you said?

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Okay, yes, yeah, well mister s old but his people.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah, this is long, this long money, all right, that's
long when he got them?

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah yeah yeah, all right.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Well did you hear about the two Virginia High school
track runners?

Speaker 1 (13:53):
I did?

Speaker 3 (13:54):
All right, So this is about Aliyah Everett.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
She insists that the incident was unintentional, and she says
people are misinterpreting the video all right. The video shows
that Everett hitting the runner, Kaylin Tucker, in the back
of the head with a baton once Tucker began to
pass her.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
However, Ever, it claims that a.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
Second video angle shows her arm got stuck and she
lost balance after getting tangled with Tucker. Tucker, after being hit,
was diagnosed with a concussion, and Everett's family says that
after the incident, she received death threats. Everett said, I
hope she's okay, and I hope she recovers, and I

(14:35):
would never try to hurt somebody. Everett is being charged
with a misdemeanor assault and battery.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Do you think the punishment fits the crime.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, I just don't get why she did it, period.
That was a little crazy.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
She said, why she did it.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
She was losing and got mad and couldn't have something control.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
But yeah, you don't do that during the track. Me though,
that's the orum. This is something I ran ran right,
I did too, But so which which is curious for
me to you know, if you know how like those
batonsa is. I don't understand how she got a concussion
from that unless she hit her and she got hair
braids and everything, and so I don't see the force

(15:15):
that she did give her. But if if she did right,
because I don't want to take away from that being
injured or anything. Uh yeah, Like it's a decorum. It's
like this etiquette that you have when you're running right,
when you're on the track meet, and like these are

(15:35):
although they quote unquote a rival team, y'all still a
team together and y'all running right. And so I guess
during the time, it wasn't nothing like this. During the time,
it was the occasional bump or occasional somebody step in
your lane type of thing. I'm saying, Yeah, I mean,
we all team. You don't know what that means.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
I do, that's what you mean, because they're actually opponents.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Said, although you're people they're running against, technically we're all eighteen, right,
So it's at the coreum that we all had.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Because you're all running right, right.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
And so after the game, you know, after the run,
you know, we usually go back and shake hands. That
was good, I got you next time. My god is
the you know, stuff like that. But I just don't
understand how. I don't know what that was for. I
never saw anything like that, and so they probably trying
to make an example while of her, and uh, I

(16:33):
mean she's still young. Though that might have been too
little too much. I mean, they could have smacked on
the back of the hand.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
It was just like I think I personally think that.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Even how she's talking after I'm talking about the young
lady who hit the girl, she's even saying.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Oh, my arm got up.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
I didn't see that.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
You didn't see what her arm getting No, I'm saying
she's saying that. So if she's saying that, she's still
covering up for her actions, meaning she's still she He's
that type of person that if you did something like
that and now you're not even taking accountability, this is
who you are. So I don't know if she picked
it up. I don't know if it's embedded in her,
but whatever it is, it's showing that's the type kid

(17:12):
that she is. So I'm not when you say why,
I can't understand.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Why she did it. She did it because she was losing.
She's a sore.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Sport and she still got that same energy. She's like,
I would never hurt nobody, Like okay, it's almost like
you know what I was losing.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
I gotta ask God to help me with that.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Like, whatever it is, just come with it, humble, because
it clearly shows that you hit somebody and the other thing,
like you said.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Those batons are really light. I ran track teen years ago,
but I do know that the girl.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Who got hit with it, she didn't even know that
she got hit until she got hit, so she felt something.
So even though it was it's a thin object, you
can't fake the fact that when she felt it, her reaction,
even if it wasn't know because if it was to
the point she would have just kept running and and
and passed her and just you know, uh speeded against her.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
But it is what it is.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
And I just really think that those parents need to
talk to their daughter who did who was the assailant,
to say, you know, it's got to be better, because
I think what didn'tis.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Happened with the ice skaters. What were their names? Yeah,
like you you can't Yeah, you're.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
A sore sport, that's all, Bosino said. I totally agree.
I mean, yeah, it's one of those things like how
I just don't get. I don't get, like how you
literally you're in front of the world like you had
the audacity. That's my thing. It was just the audacity,
he said, Uh, she busts her in the head because
she was losing. It's just that.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah, and real, real, for real, for real, if the
if she would have taken her what she did at
least to take it on the chin. But she cried, like,
even if you ain't crying a lot, you cried, lay
said everybody.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
She said, nobody is worried about monumental Hmm that killed me,
I said, m yo, that was wild to hear.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Look to see them real tears.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah, And you on television and got caught. That's that
was the crazy part.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
But all right, okay, so this next story is about
the Civics moment.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
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Speaker 3 (19:47):
So Philadelphia is taking.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Care of Business Clean Corridors Program better known as TCB. Now,
this initiative is changing the game when it comes to
keeping our neighborhoods clean and vibrant. One thing everybody say
about Philadelphia, they call it Khiladelphia or filthy Philadelphia. So
the mayor heard it and said we're going to do
something about it. Under Mayor Cherrelle Parker's leadership. The initiative

(20:13):
is putting local nonprofits to work beautifying business districts and
surrounding area, and the results they speak for themselves. Since January,
TCB has expanded from one hundred and sixteen to one
hundred and fifty five clean corridors, covering one hundred and
thirty six miles of the city. Over three hundred cleaning

(20:34):
ambassadors are out there every day. Nearly forty four hundred
trees have been planted. Y'all remember that back in the day,
with the trees and stuff and vacant lots they were
once eye sores are now maintained green spaces. Hopefully we
can get gardens in there, fresh fruit at least, you know,
we'll be able to hopefully give that food away kale, spinach.

(20:57):
But this isn't just about cleaning streets. It's about people.
TCB creates jobs, strengthening small businesses, and giving opportunities to
local minority own cleaning companies. Commerce director Alba Martinez put
it best.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
She said, TCB.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Cleaning ambassadors are on the front lines maintaining these business corridors.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
In twenty twenty four loan.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
They collected over one hundred and seventy seven thousand bags
of litter, with litter levels dropping in eighty more jobs opening.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
Up next year. TCB isn't just about cleaning up Philly.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
It's about a better future for all of us, the people,
the nonprofits and mayor Charrelle. One thing I can say
is I've been seeing her in them streets, like she
has been really at the podium speaking. I mean even
with the airplane that happened in Northeast.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Like, she's been extremely visible. So I will say that, ya,
any any feedback on that?

Speaker 2 (21:59):
No, why are you doing lis like that?

Speaker 3 (22:04):
She called you out see.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Those lips, was like, I don't have my I don't
have my theme music.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
What happened to it moment? Right?

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, that's how we're doing it.
All right, good, I'm glad.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I know.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Now all right, this next story, I'll just say, hold
on to your pearls or not. So I came across
a powerful article in the Philadelphia Tribune by well known
attorney Michael Cord. You know, yeah, Now that's somebody who's
really for the people, who has made extreme changes in

(22:43):
the city of Philadelphia. So this this this article exposes
a chilly, chilling piece of history. So did you all
know that white people once made shoes from the skin
of black people?

Speaker 3 (22:57):
You knew this, did you know that? Says a Yeah,
he did. Okay, So a Philadelphia.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
Doctor even wore shoes made from black cadavers dissected at
medical colleges.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
But it didn't stop there.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
Black skin was also used for cigar cases and saddles.
This was part of a long history of brutality, including
torture methods like the Derby dose, where enslaved people were
forced to consume human waste, and also from casket spiking,
a method involved a coffin lined with spikes, shredding the

(23:35):
victim's body as it tumbled. By the time that the
casket was opened, the victim's body would be mutilated beyond recognition.
These are the dark truths that we can't afford to forget.
So it was a lot more so you guys check
that story out again. It was written by the well

(23:56):
known attorney Michael Cord in the Philadelphia Tribune, and that
was just my small excerpt on what I got from it.
But it was a lot of stuff that was in
different articles in eighteen eighty eight that were published, and
it gives you delve more into this information that I
just shared.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, it was better. I mean, you want to talk
about little black babies being fed the crocodiles. You want
to talk about dentures, people slaves, teeth being pulled out
of their mouths and used, and you're talking about man
all types of them being quarter by horses. And it's
just a lot of things. When you talk about women

(24:33):
being hung up upside down while they're pregnant and being
cut open, and I mean the brutality that our ancestors faced,
it was just atrocious, right, And so it's one thing
to It's one thing to acknowledge it, it's another one.
It's another to say we need to just get over

(24:55):
it and forget about it, right. And so I think
that's where the challenge that the people or this discourse
that's happening with quote unquote wokism or critical race theory.
You know, it's why should you know we put guilt
in the babies, so to speak? Right, And it's bigger

(25:18):
than that. It's American history, right, it's not happening now
that we know of right, and there are some good
white folk out there, right, And so We're not blaming everyone.
We're just saying this was a historical. This is historical,
it's factual, and it was American history. So acknowledge that.
That's cool. Point. That's it, that's all. That's it.

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all right. So Wendy Williams, she is speaking out against
the conditions of her her guardianship in an interview on
the View. So for those she called in, yeah she

(29:31):
wasn't there. Yeah, yeah she called in. But you know,
for those of you who aren't aware, a guardianship is
a court ordered arrangement where a judge appoints a person
or organization to make decisions on behalf of a child
or an incapacitated adult excuse me, thereby granting the guardian

(29:54):
powers are similar to that of a parent. So the
State of New York has three types of guardian and ships.
One is the Article eighty one. They also have Article
seventeen dash A and guardianship of a child. So in
order to qualify for Article eighty one guardianship guardianship, the

(30:15):
court has to determine that the person is unable to
provide for their own personal and financial needs, and that
they're incapable of making decisions on their own and ask
and they also have a risk of harming themselves, but
they're unaware that they actually need assistance. So in twenty

(30:35):
twenty four, Williams Wendy Williams team had reported that she
was diagnosed with aphasia and frontal temporal dementia. So Wendy
Williams called the view. She called in and she was
stating that she was having a little adjucta, so she
went to the hospital. So she said, it was my

(30:57):
choice to get an independent evaluation on my incompetity in
capat now I can't even say it right incapacitation which
I don't have. She said, how dare they say I
have incapacitation?

Speaker 1 (31:13):
I do not.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
So she's talking about those who are over her in
her guardianship. So she also described her living conditions where
she says that she's staying on the memory unit floor
where there are like seventy eighty ninety year old people
and they don't On this floor, you don't remember anything,

(31:34):
and that's why I guess it's called the memory unit floor.
But Wendy Williams, who is sixty, says she stays in
the bedroom majority of the time. So during the interview,
the view holds Sonny hostin. She had to read a
statement from her guardian lawyer. Her guardian lawyer about the
guardianship and said that the guardianship was issued by a

(31:57):
judge that declared you legally incapacitate after a diagnosis of
frontal temporal dementia and says that then says you have
not been kept from your family and you are not
receiving excellent care. So Wendy Williams kind of fired back
and she was just like, I need them to get
off my neck. So, you know, lately Wendy has been

(32:18):
speaking out against her guardianship. So Wendy is just tired
of this Britney spears like guardianship and she wants to
get her life back. So I hope you know a
lot of people are just like Wendy Williams on the View,
like they were like wanting that to kind of be
like her comeback or whatever. You know, she still has
her her strong following, but yeah, I would love to

(32:41):
see a Wendy Williams come back. And and she really
didn't sound like there was anything wrong with her.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
For context, can you give because you mentioned Britney Spears
about her guardianship just kind of to explain that a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
For other conservative ship.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
That she is. She still in it.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
No, oh, I think she she finally got out of it.
But it's like when you're it's it's similar to a guardianship,
like you you have no control over like cause Wendy
was Wendy was explaining like she was like I can't
all my clothes and everything that I had, and they
they have control over that, Like she can't have the
stuff that she wants to have, she can't make her

(33:20):
own decisions. And the guardian what's her name, uh, Morris Morrissey.
I think her last name is his first name Susan,
I can't remember. But she's pretty much like appointed by
the judge to control Wendy williams every move. So now

(33:44):
what they're saying is that the judge is basically like, oh,
you're doing too much now we need to make you
know the facility that you're staying in stricter so you
can't get out. Because I think she was able to,
Like I think she had a family member come and
the family member was able to take her to the hospital.
Yeah the need, Yeah, take her to the hospital where
she got her own evaluation done, and she's accord into

(34:09):
the evaluation, like she doesn't have what these what they
said that she has.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
I've been watching that story too, and I feel like
I when I say I love me so Wendy Williams'
she's a cancerine too.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
I think that.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
I think that when she first did this, and I
say did this, it's her and her husband were getting
a divorce, and I think she was trying to protect
herself so he couldn't get her money. And then I
think it went a little too far, and now it's like, oh, crap, Like.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (34:39):
I think.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
So you're saying that she was seeking to.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Protect her assets.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah, I No, I don't I think that.

Speaker 4 (34:48):
And I'm not really sure on the legality of the wording,
but I think she was trying to do something that
would not allow him to take her money from her,
and I think that it got a little too out
of hand. Now she says she has Graves disease, So
I think when she passed out and all that stuff,
I don't think that was fake. But I think that
they capitalized off of what her illness is. And I

(35:09):
think that her strategy was probably going to work. But
then when people got involved that she didn't know start
to looking over her money, I think it went too far.
But I don't think nothing is her frontal cortex all
of it.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
I don't think nothing's wrong with my girl.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
Because she's talking and she's asking appropriate questions.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
She sounds like Wendy. She sounds feisty and ready.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
She did so exactly. She really did to me. That's
why I was like, she might have a point. She
might have a point, and like, you know, maybe they
need to do something like I don't know how that
will work because everything is like core ordered and it's
like I don't know if they can appeal or something
like that, but hopefully she can get out of it.

(35:52):
Brittany got out of hers with her dad, but it.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Was the people that did it too.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah, so maybe there needs to be a movement like
start the Free Wendy Williams. I know some people are
already saying that, but yeah, like they did for Brittany. Yeah,
absolutely all right. So Offset is sounding off on Elon
Musk following Must's support of Ben Shapiro's campaign to pardon

(36:17):
Derek Chauvin, who was sentenced in twenty twenty one for
the murder of George Floyd. So in a post on Instagram,
Offset wrote racist b playing in black folks faces, and
he added driving Ferrari not Tesla. So the rappers outrage
stem from Elon Musk posting a video of conservative political

(36:38):
commentator Ben Shapiro calling for President Donald Trump to pardon
Derek Chauvin, accusing the Black Lives Matter of causing billions
in property damage. So Ben Shapiro also claimed that Derek
Chauvin's knet on Gerald he just went just saying a
bunch of stuff. But he also stated that a lot

(37:03):
of these things weren't true, but he was just stating them.
Derek Chauvin's knee on George Floyd's neck did not cause
the immediate death of George Floyd, and he attributed the
death to use of fentanyl. In addition, Ben Shapiro wrote
a letter to President Donald Trump, which was included in

(37:23):
this whole petition that he has created for people to
go and sign to support this cause. I will not
give out the website addressed to this because it's just
a bunch of buffoonery, if you ask me. But part
of the letter, which was a little lengthy, that he
did put in there, he says, and this is a

(37:46):
letter to President Donald Trump. He's saying, we write to
urge you to immediately issue a pardon for Officer Derek Chauvin,
who was unjustly convicted and is serving currently serving a
twenty two and a half year cent for the murder
of George Floyd and associate associated federal charges. The mayor
of and I'm kind of skipping around, the mayor of

(38:08):
Minneapolis prejudged the outcome of the trial and immediately issued
a large settlement to the Floyd family. Then President Biden,
Congresswoman Maxine Waters, and others prejudged the outcome of the
trial and took to national media to create pressure on
the jury to go along with their preferred narrative. Under
these circumstances, there was no opportunity for blind justice to work,

(38:32):
and a man is now riding in prison because of it.
Make no mistake, the Derek Chauvin conviction represents the defining
achievement of the movement in American politics. The country cannot
turn the page on dark, divisive and racist error without
writing this terrible wrong. Derek Chauvin was sentenced to twenty

(38:55):
two and a half years in state prison to run
concurrent with a twenty two year federal sentence. So offset
just joins a long list of celebrities calling out Eli
Musk for his political stances and decisions, such as Cardi
b Eminem's, Stephen King, Tyler the Creator, and Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
That infuriates me.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
It does, it does, And I guess what, I never
really followed Ben Shapiro until I saw this story, and
he has a huge amount of followers. So it just
kind of makes you angry. So, I mean, some of
which because I do recomments, and the reason I recomments

(39:37):
is because I like to get a consensus of what
people say and how they feel. But a lot of people,
a few people were kind of speaking out against it,
like oh, yeah, no, that's not cool, and you know
that's wrong. And even one person who I know is
a conservative right commentary person. He even said, like he

(40:02):
called him out, and he was like, I'm gonna I'm
not gonna name his name, but he called him out
and he said, yeah, back then, you were supporting George Floyd.
So now you're just trying to get people to follow
you and you're just trying to get attention. So I
don't know, it just yeah, it infuriates me. I should Yeah,

(40:25):
all right, So I do have a celebrity sizzle, believe
it or not. I haven't had this in a long time,
and I'm super excited for this one. The Celebrity Sizzle
Award for this week goes to DJ ja Z Jeff,
and he is showing up in a big way after
producing Philadelphia's Sonic ID for the twenty twenty six FIFA

(40:50):
World Cup Tournament. So Fifa announced, for the first time
in FIFA World Cup history, the twenty twenty six tournament
introduces city specific sonic Identities, which is a celebration of
unique energy and cultural vibrancy with local producers for each

(41:10):
of the sixteen whole cities.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
So.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
In an interview with The Inquiry, Jazz Jeff explained how
he created a marriage of Phillies neo soul and culture
to produce the perfect sonic ID to represent the city.
So he said, when I understood that the sonic ID
was pretty much telling the story of Philadelphia, the first
thing that came to my mind was gamble and huff.
So this is the biggest sports event to come to

(41:35):
Philadelphia ever. So if we're gonna do it, we're gonna
show people who we are. So Jazzy Jeff's song Will
song will be played during FIFA events and matches at
the Lincoln Financial Field. So that's yeah. Each and what
I thought was pretty cool was that each city has
their own little like vibe, kind of like musical vibe

(41:57):
and all that based on the culture of the city
that they're gonna play in those whole cities during the
you know, World Cup people World Cup in twenty twenty six.
So go and check out Philadelphia's sonic I d created
by DJ Jazzy Jeff. That's dope, that's doe man, I'm
your girl, Laurence Sizzle and that was the sizzle.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
And that was a sizzle. Ladies and gentlemen, boy charged
Greg with the beautiful.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Classy lady sparkle Laurence Sizzle.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yo that was dope. Shout out the jazzy jeff Man.
Shout out to Philly in the building. Man, Philly's been
winning lately. Let's keep that up. Let's keep that momentum. Uh,
you know, I'm super excited that the birds year we
pulled that chet.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
People have been coming here just to tour Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Always do that.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
No, I mean it's even more like the And then
what the initiative with the TCB that Mayor Charrella is doing,
Like they know that people are coming here looking at us.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Yeah, all right, no doubt our mayor not sure if
I'm with that dollar hike on parking going to talk
about that. We are already struggling. You want to increase parking.
There is something wrong with but there you go. We
talk weekly, have to talk with wppmm P Philadelphia one
o six point five of film. We talked weekly. After
the talk, I'm gonna go to one of our young journalists.

(43:13):
I don't want you to go there when we come back.
After that. We got a dynamic interview and we'll be
right back after this show.

Speaker 6 (43:18):
Hello, no reporter, Ella presents a new recipe that can
help me looking over to you. Ella.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Thanks fellow.

Speaker 8 (43:25):
Now that follows upon us. What's not a better way
to start the fall seasons than an easy and simple recipe?
Hope care bet. It is the most delicious and easiest
food you can make for yourself, family and friends and
your community.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Take a look, right, we're gonna.

Speaker 8 (43:37):
Make pumpkin bread, So make sure you screenshot this recipe
and let's get started. First, preheat you ouve into three
fifty degrees in one of your bowls. Picture flour, baking soda,
baking powder, salt, and pumpkin pie spice with your fork.
Mix Now with your second bowl, mix your sugar, oil
and apple sauce with a whisk. Once everything is mixed together,

(44:00):
add your pumpkin and mix again. When everything is mixed evenly,
combine both mixtures together. Make sure you scrape everything out
so nothing is wasted. Now mix evenly until there's no lumps.
After that, you want to set that aside and grab
your breadpan. Lather some butter all around and add a

(44:21):
little flour and spread it around until it looks like this.
Now you want to pour the bread batter into the breadpan.
Sure you scrape everything out so nothing is wasted. Cut
a line in the middle and it's ready for the oven.
Make sure you were up and mix and let the
bread bake for sixty minutes. Once the sixty minutes is up,
take it out of the oven and let exit.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
For a few minutes.

Speaker 8 (44:39):
When the bread pan is safe to touch, use a
straight edge to separate the pan and bread. This stuff
is optional, but if you have like sliced the bread
into thick slices and it should look something like this,
you are all done. Dig in and enjoy your pumpkin bread.

(45:02):
This pumpkin about is a perfect way to feed your family,
friends and your community. Well what did you think about
this recipe?

Speaker 6 (45:09):
I think that this recipe is perfect for the horizon
fall weather. Substituting the egg with the apple sauce is
a great option for others with an ecology.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Thanks wella.

Speaker 8 (45:18):
I'm Ala Kanzon, reporting for Youth Civic News. Back to ULLO.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
We talked weeklies after the talk on WPPM and P
Philadelphia one O six point five film. We talked weeklies
after the talk with your boy Charles Gregory and.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Beautiful Classic Ladies and the beautiful Lawrence.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
All right, so who do we have today? You know,
this is my favorite segment of the show. Why because
I get to talk to the good old folks that's
really in them streets, that's doing some good work. So
who do we have to day? Who do we have
to date? All Right?

Speaker 4 (45:43):
So today I am excited to announce that we have
cow we at Dual Rockman.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
He's an attorney but affectually called Esquire by his family.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
Rachman was born on Plattsburgh Air Force Base in New York,
and he was instilled a deep sense of duty of community,
later shaping his path into law. Mister Rockmand's family relocated
to the Richard Allen Holmes located in North Philadelphia when
he was a child, But after earning his political science
degree from Cheney University and his Juris doctorate from Thomas

(46:15):
School of Law, he gained twenty five years of legal experience,
serving his Philadelphia community and earning the first Judicial District
of Pennsylvania pro Bono Public Award. Presently a resident of
West Philadelphia, a proud member of Omega Sci Fi Fraternity Incorporated,
mister Rockmand is a dedicated, youth youthful football coach, husband

(46:39):
and father.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Y'all already know what to do. Let's give a warm.
We talk weekly. Welcome to kwee at Dulrockmand.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
My brother, my brother, how are you?

Speaker 5 (46:47):
How are you are you?

Speaker 1 (46:49):
I'm good? Got you first of all. First of all,
my brother, ramadamu barritt Ramadammobadi. You know what I'm saying.
You know, this is we in a holy month right now.
You know, I think it's good. We're getting off those things,
you know, trying to replenish our soulf so we can
go forward. And so first of all, I usually start
with how was your day? But since you went around
about how's you around? But not coming?

Speaker 5 (47:11):
My brother? One of the things is it's been a
beautiful day. Unfortunately, the Gray let us know that the
days move too fast. So when people ask me how's Ramadan?
It's moving too fast because you know, we have opportunity
to have extra prayers, do extra you batter and the
fact that I can't do it soon it's starting to
bother me. You have we half way through thes the
fifteenth Ramadan.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Fifteen, halfway through right the first the first there you go,
there you go. So let's start from the beginning. You know,
you know, you've you've been pretty active with kind of
like your just civic engagement period from like your family
and shout out to tell you know, Richard island Ram
squad in the building and I remember those days, you know,
and you're coming back and now you what's fully shout

(47:54):
out to West's where I'm from, you know. So, so
when we talk about kind of like how everything started,
let's are from the beginning what got you involved in
just kind of noticing that there's some challenges in our
hoods right in Philly and then wanting to make the
steps to fore change, so to speak.

Speaker 5 (48:15):
Firstly, it's peculiar because I wanted to be a veterinarian. Ah,
so I'm actually University of Delaware planning for Tubby Raymond
Biology major. Shout out to doctor Chapman, who was also
a veterinary prevet guy who's my vet now going to
Tuskei University for veterinary school. My brother got arrested for
homicide and at that point I knew that he didn't

(48:37):
do it because we knew who did do it. But
more importantly, anyone to do so that term you would
hear growing up, anyone would do is not until it
affects your life that you realize it means anyone would
really do so. After eighteen months sitting at Holmesburg, I
realized that I may not be able to help him,
but it's gonna be a lot of people after him,
because there was a lot of people before him that's
going to need representation. Who's going to understand the dues

(49:00):
and don'ts in our community? Do try to listen to
the police as best you can. Don't think that they're
not gonna mess with you because you didn't do something.
Just because you didn't do something don't mean you can't
end up on state road, in state prison or the like.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
You know what, I'm gonna park it there real quick.
So what would what advice would you give someone that
that may be in their car right and it gets
stopped by the police, What advice would you give them? Police?
Walk up, knock on the door, boom, and go all.

Speaker 5 (49:31):
Right, let's before you park it there, tell me a
little bit, Tell me a little bit of what you
want me to do. Are we dealing with a person
who has the paper Delaware tag on their car, with
the tent all the way around the car, who just
ran a stop sign, who breaks don't work, who has
the whole front bumper off. If it's that person, he's

(49:53):
in trouble.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Let's go. Let's go with the average person.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
The average person, me and you.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
They got their registration. Everything is good, Everything is fine.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
What I tell people is, don't wait for the police
to walk up and knock on the window, rolling window down.
That eases some of the detention. Maybe not all, but
it eases some of the attention. One of the things
that we often forget is is a lot of bad cops.
But I believe it's more good cops than bad cops.
So if you get stopped by the police and you
engage in a manner that we all know. You may

(50:21):
not think you were going too fast, but we know
we're going fast. You may not think you ran to
stop sign, but you didn't stop all the way and
look both ways. You may not thought you ran that
red light, but you've seen it was yellow, and you
still want to keep on going. So at the end
of the day, you know he's not stopped you typically
for nothing. I'm talking about guys like us, and when
he stopped you, officer vicens registration insurance. I've already got

(50:42):
that for you, and I got that for you. We
already women need to be not know what you stopped
me for. Not to try to taggonize and create a
situation is a kend. I was a kind to living
in West Philly and Richard Allen had I didn't have
to shovel. I never had to shovel because they shoveled
for us. But when I moved on Woodcrest, my first
house outside of the area, my next door neighbor, mister Ken,

(51:04):
my other next door neighbor, I will shovel. And what
that meant was, I'm shoveling for myself and for them,
because I know a neighbor is a neighborhood. So if
you treat your neighbors properly, now your neighborhood to be
treated properly. And while I'm saying that, we're telling them
what the police, while I'm not leaving that now you
have a personal shovels. They car out your neighbor, You

(51:26):
park your car in that spot, neighbor, knock on the
door and say could you please move your car and
not shoveled out, and you go right to philth farm
Field to your neighbor. The police don't stand a chance.
That's what That's the point I'm trying to make. So
oftentimes we say respectful people will treat the police respectfully.
The disrespect for people don't care because you treat your
neighbor the same way you treat your cod interesting.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Interesting, and so I totally agree with that. But what
do you say to the mom right that that is terrified?
Son just scot you know, their license. They finally start
the mom like, oh, I'm scared because you know, we
know what's going on with these kids. What would you
tell the mom? Like how would you cause you know,

(52:09):
you know how these black folks, right, we the only
ones that have to give that talk. Unfortunately, you know
we have to give that talk to the kids. But
what do you tell the mom? Like, how would you
coach her to talk to her son? New son just
riding her you know, got a new car all, Like,
what would you tell her?

Speaker 5 (52:26):
The same thing you tell your kids about anything else
that you do, the same way you told your kids
to go to school minus manners, be respectful in school.
The same way you tell your kid to go to
class and be quiet in class and do your work,
to mind your business. Those are the things that good
moms and dads are doing to their children all the time,
and the fact that you gave your kid a proper upbringing,

(52:47):
it's gonna be a lot easier to deal with them.
But I also tell people this PHILOPI has one point
six million people in it. One point six million. We
start talking about the crime, do we really have crime
in the city? One point six million people? So when
you start talking about homicides, there's less than one percent
of one percent. When you start talking about police really
shooting people in the street at traffic stops, I can't

(53:10):
even say that's less than one percent of Well, that's
that's there's a negative number, right, We still do one
point six million people. So if you really look at
it in the grand scheme of things, we're not that
unsafe in the city. Not that that's safe from each other,
nor we're not safe for the police. So if you
just treat your kids to be respectful, the percentage of
bad officers are just as small as the crime that's
happened against people travel traffics.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
I totally agree to that, and I think the issue
is and I'm very I'm very hard on legacy media
because they lead with if it bleeds it, if it leads.
If it bleeds, it leads, right. And so if every
day we turn on the TV and the first thing
that come on in the news is somebody got shot,

(53:52):
somebody I killed, Rob, X, Y and Z, you would
think that nothing else happened in Philly, but that bad
things happen in Philadelphia, right.

Speaker 5 (53:59):
That's what the present, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
And so when you have that, then then the perception.
Now perception becomes reality, yes, right right, and so now
we believe that yo, Philly is off the up, all right,
So now everybody's scared, and so moving forward, what do
we do right, because you civiically engaging in the community.
If we know that what you're saying is a fact, right,

(54:23):
then then how do we re educate the community.

Speaker 5 (54:27):
It's the easiest thing, brother, it is stay involved in
the community. Black flight, black flight, So we prevent the
black flight. If our best and brightest minds leave the neighborhoods,
how do we re educate our best and brightest minds.
Got to realize what they're telling us a lies. We
I coach at thirty third in Diamond to this day,
I started at leven faces will be more. I started

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coaching at the black Hawks, where I played under Untamishi.
I seen the tenor and the philosophy of the program
starting to change. So I moved, but I didn't go
for I didn't go out to the county and I
stayed in the hood. I went to Logan Cowboys, which
at that time was Nice Town Titans. From their officer
Art said listen, I'm gonna step down. I need somebody
to come take over this program. And I ended up

(55:11):
a thirty third in Diamond Shot Brain Mansion. So at
the end of the day, this is how you change it.
When they see coach Q who's a lawyer, who's running
to be a judge, and he's still in the neighborhood,
still here with the kids to do the things the
neighborhood that needs to be done, and not afraid of
coming out here with our kids, not afraid of our kids,
not afraid of our own community. It makes it a
lot easier to re educate.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
Now talking about that, you said, running for judge, let's
talk about that.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
So I was trying to walk through that. We gotta know,
we gotta make him a person first, right, we said,
So this is this is how we do it.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Right the best you see how I jumped in there.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
So, so what we like to do, right is because
we're hard on candidates, candidates, and so because we like
to keep the accountable, right and for us, right, we
interview everyone. We interview everyone, especially candidates, and what tends
to happen is people don't even know who they are.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Every mayorial candidate came on, that's.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Right, that's right. And so and the thing is is
like somebody might jump in the race. It's like where
you come from and you're talking about you doing stuff
for the community. Who are so no one would have
known that trajectory that you said from being in the hood,
right talking to Miss Johnsing, your neighbors doing this for them,
you know, shoveling snow from the kids, you working with

(56:35):
the kids playing football, transferring over there, not going out
of the hood. You could have went to the count
that now be painted a picture of who you really are. Right.
So with that said, right.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
Sereverybody right right, right, all right, I took the hell Mary.
So as as you said, running for a judge, this
is a special election coming up. Tell us first before
I even get into the disparities, and a lot of Philadelphia.
Axouneries are coming out tell us the importance of the

(57:09):
special election for judges that people don't realize.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
Well, one of the things that people don't realize is
since you guys have had every type of candidate on
probably outside of the presidential because they know they're afraid
to come to talk to us.

Speaker 6 (57:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
So if you're dealing with the governor, the president, the mayor,
if you look at their office themselves, how they really
affect your daily life? They don't. Who affects your daily life?
Who gets to tell you whether or not you can
see your son every day or every other weekend for
two hours a day, or the security guard watching you.

(57:45):
Who else get to tell you whether or not you
have thirty days to leave your property you're going to
be locked out? Who else has the ability to say
your sentence is twenty to forty life of person. And
we're talking about someone who affects your life those ways.
But more importantly, adjustment also sittings you to death. The

(58:07):
governor can't do it, The president can do it, the
mayor can't do it. None of those people who we
elect and we have all the big turnouts for can
affect your life daily The policies and stuff may influence
your life, but they can't affect your life. You're talking
about I'm telling you right now today you walk into court,
you're walking out in handcuffs. We're talking about you have

(58:29):
your son, we're taking your son from you, giving it
back to the mother whoever. Right then in the court,
right we're talking about your going in knowing that you
had a home over your head, to have nothing, to
being homeless. That's what a judge has the impact. But
we don't think about judges that way. And the sad
part is, and this is the part that a lot
of people don't know, but being in a system for

(58:50):
over thirty years now, from a public defender in Dade County, Florida,
to being a law cler for ten years for Joel
Johnson the family court, for being in private practice also
for twenty years, it is not a portion of courts
that they can put me in that from day one,
I'm not ready to be able to be on the
bench and understand what needs to be done to be
treated fairly and justly in a courtroom. Unfortunately, an assistant

(59:14):
a city of Philadelphia, major cities in particular, when the
judges are elected. Typically, they put them where people matter.
The less you hear about how these judges. When you
go to CJC and a person gets sentence in there,
you'll hear people in the hallway or that judge never
practice criminal law. But why then when they put that
judge and then we have civil law, why not put

(59:34):
them over there. They get their practice with our life.
They get the practice with our children's lives. They get
the practice when they didn't have an opportunity to learn
to sharpen their tools before that. They get to learn
once they become a judge with our lives because our
lives again don't matter. When you think about civil court,

(59:54):
judges are moved out of civil court when they mess
with that money. When them big firms say we have
a medical mad practice where we're looking at one hundred
million dollars settlement and the judge messed that up, that
judge is gone. That judge is not going as quickly
when the person is like you were talking about exonerating
people coming home. When a person isn't found guilty by
a judge who let evidence in, this shouldn't be let

(01:00:16):
in a judge who would not declare a mistrial because
the evidence was not right, that judge is not going
to be moved from criminal court, that judge may be
applauded for doing what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Can you tell, you know, for our people that are watching, like,
what are some of the things that you feel like
separates you from the other candidates that are running well?
I mean, if you know you know.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
One thing, I can say, this is very simple when
you asked, Because everybody grew up. Some of us grew
up in projects, some others didn't. Some of us grew
in a single family home, some of us didn't. We
all went to law school, we all took the bar,
we all practiced some type of law. Again, if you're
going to be put in the proven ground where it
deals with our lives, you want someone who knows how

(01:01:04):
to deal with our lives when they come in. For example,
and I magine you have a kid who is sixteen
years old, because that's just when they tended to deliver. Now,
Tiff and Brodgruben learn from Brown eight on. Once he
just a place in Richard Outen. Tiffrian Brown was a
known notorious drug corner. Suppose I walk down to the
corner and I'm just shaking somebody's hand. Friends of mine

(01:01:24):
are there, and I'm standing. I'm just looking up and
down the street. A court can say I'm a lookout.
That means I'm a conspiratory to a drug activity because
I'm from the neighborhood. I know people in the neighborhood,
and I know how easy things can happen. So I'm
looking have been down the street. No candidate can tell
you this part of life, because no pandidate knows this
part of life like me. So now he's sixteen years old,

(01:01:47):
whether he was selling drugs or not, as irrelevant the
fact that he was adjudicated linquent for selling drugs at sixteen.
Then at eighteen he is again arrested and convicted of
selling drugs. You heard me say, adjudicated at sixteen, convicted
at eighteen. Why is that he has four points on
his record? The number only goes up to five at
eighteen years old. You got four points on your record

(01:02:08):
four So imagine now at forty is that sixteen eighteen
year old the same person at forty Typically not not,
typically not. But the sentence in guidelines give you some
wiggle room if you understand who you have in front
of you. So if you have a person. Now, when
he comes in, he says, listen, Judge, I know I
made a mistake, but I have a family at home,

(01:02:28):
I have a mortgage, I work at Septa, I work
at whoever the city. I'm paying card notes. I'll take
my kid to football practice. There's no way in hell
I could send that person to prison. I couldn't do it.
One day in prison could have that man lose everything.
Not only he loses everything, but his family loses everything.

(01:02:50):
And if you don't have a judge, they have that
sympathy and understanding, that person goes away to jail. I
ran for judge the first time because of this same incident.
I had a guy who I represented who was twenty
two years old. He has some simple possession marijuana possession
as a juvenile. That's the extent of his record. He
had a domestic case, and I don't take kindly domestic

(01:03:12):
I did't grow up in domestic violence situations, so I
don't take kindly to it. But what he did do
is after him and his girlfriend had an argument in
the car, he called his mother. He took the girl
to his mother's house. They had to sit down immediately
with his mother and cried in front of his mother.
For a black man, what does that mean to me?
I got the punishment that the courts couldn't give me.

(01:03:33):
I had to admit to my mom I did something
to my mom, cried in front of his mom. His
mom took the girl home. The DA forced the girl
to come, made her come to court, and the judge
sent him the jail for six months. You mean it,
tell me that's his kid that needs to go to
jail for six months. We're not talking about the crime,
we're talking about the punishment. So when you're talking about

(01:03:57):
how do I distink myself from them, I know I
have kids who may not eat, and we feed our
kids every Friday and Saturday. So the day before the game,
like in college, they gave us the meal. That's what
we do for our kids to get them understand this
is what happens in college. On Friday, you're gonna have
a meal table. You're gonna get to eat pasta, this, that,
and the third out there again, you're gonna be able
to eat properly. Now I can't tell you what the

(01:04:19):
kid may eat for the rest of the week. Salt
pepper ketchup Chicken Way streets on their side. I don't know.
I don't think we don't have for the rest of
the week. But you got to understand who you're dealing
with to really be able to aid them. The criminal
justice system have a lot of resources, but if you
don't understand what a person needs to use the resources,
there is no rehabilitation because we constantly hear about hurt

(01:04:42):
people hurting people. We have a lot of incests, a
lot of molestation. We have a lot of things to
go on with these kids in our community, and then
at sixteen seventeen, we want to call these kids monsters
and villains and the like. How and if you can't
see that person fool that person, you'll never be able
to judge that person properly. So that's what makes me

(01:05:06):
different from a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
Wow, that was profound.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
What do you see that currently is in the Philadelphia
traditional system that there's a gap that you could fill? Well,
and I know what you just said about what separates you,
but what do you see currently?

Speaker 5 (01:05:25):
One of the things that I see currently is, like
I said, we have resources, but you have to be
able to recognize the calling out that oftentimes, thus the
young black men won't ask for so when they come
in the courtroom and they sitting and they doing this
and they leaning, they're calling out believe it or not,
and if you can't recognize it. Coaching these little kids

(01:05:45):
have shown me a lot of things. And I tell
my coach, I say, listen, we have to be mindful
of who you have to chastise roughly in front of kids,
who you got to pull to the side, who you
have to coddle. You have to understand what it will
take to get the best that's out of that player.
And that is one of the things that I've learned.
I don't care what candidate you have to come on here,

(01:06:06):
not one of them will say they're doing something in
the community with our kids. Not on Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
I mean, so I want to know, like because because
you know, we got a few comments here and pretty
much the consistence is that it follows kind of the
trajectory of what we hear about d a crash now, right,
that he's soft on crime, right, that he's that he's
he's just simply you know, there to kind of forgive.

(01:06:32):
And I totally don't believe it. And I feel like
he was a breath of fresh air for me, you know, personally,
especially after someone like a Lynn Abraham.

Speaker 5 (01:06:41):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
And so, so when when we talk about how we
control crime or how do we make Philadelphia safe? Where
do you fit in line when it comes to like
this gentleman saying that you potentially may be soft on,
uh soft on criminals, and that Philipladelphia may not be safe.
What do you say that people who, to the contrast,

(01:07:04):
feel to like Philadelphia has been sought for criminals, right,
and certain judges just kind of like you know, kind
of gives them a pass, so to speak, right, And
so what do you say to that?

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
What I say to that person is pay attention to
the really the numbers. When I went away to college
in nineteen eighty six, we had nine state correctional facilities. Nine,
we're over twenty now now one of them are empty.
And who fees most of these systems? Philadelphia? So how

(01:07:38):
soft are we on crime? If these twenty plus facilities
are full or almost full, and they're coming from Philadelphia
and Allegheny County? How soft are we on crime? Are
we soft on the crime that we should be soft on?
When you're talking about kids who are stealing, you're talking

(01:07:58):
about kids who are trying to eat, and again that's
not everyone. And for that person who's talking about that,
and let's talk about basic understanding, there are some people
that should not be in a sandbox with me and
my family. And what we're talking about is this. We're
talking about being able to recognize the difference between a
person who needs an opportunity to be reabilitated as well

(01:08:21):
as a person who needs to have someone to show them,
because everybody hasn't been shown how to be a productive citizen.
Although we want to believe that everyone hasn't been shown that.
There are kids on my program who run the house
at ten eleven years old. Run the house what they say,
go at ten eleven years old, So at fifteen sixteen,

(01:08:42):
how do you tell them anything? So it's not about
being soft on crime, because we have laws. But when
you have laws, should it be a law in fact
that I'm charging you with the hardest, harshest of crimes
for the same crime that if a white person who
have done it with them not gotten in charge the
same way. We never talk about that aspect of it

(01:09:05):
soft on crime. How people who shoot check the stats
and see how many people up on state road with
one hundred thousand dollars bell five hundred thousand Dodar bells
right now, Checking stats and see how many people are
sitting with twenty thousand dollars bells for having a gun.
Who's convicted they shouldn't have had a gun on them
if you check the stats, that's not faccial. The same way,
we have one point six million people in the city

(01:09:27):
and the crime is not where it's supposed to where
people think it is. It's the same way. So no,
I would not be soft on crime because the same
way your grandmother I would protect the same way protect
my grandmother, the same way you want to protect your kids,
the same way I will protect my kids. So no,
sitting on a bench doesn't mean that you give people

(01:09:47):
a pass because you look like them. Of your color
don't mean of your kind, hey, but you have to
understand what kind are they? Are they the kind that
needs some help? How many kids really you have never
got hugged?

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
Shit?

Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
That part people? I mean, being a football coach is
more than just coaching Little league football is trying to
make men. And if you're trying to make men, you
have to be well rounded and give them everything when
they see me out there and say, coach, why do
you do this your kids? None of your kids out here.
You still out here buying kids helmets and cliques and

(01:10:21):
making sure these kids are fair. These not your kids,
they are my kids. So that's the same person. I'll
be on the bench if you harm someone. I don't
know if you harm my family, and I want you
to harm my family. So therefore I would have to
do as needed for the city to be protected.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Yeah, And I like to hear that because for me,
I like to see that people are normalized, right, Yes,
which is the reason why I try to get to
know who you are first, right, because what happens is
as I stated, like, you see these glamorized campaigns, right,
make them you have dynamic, you know, you know agents

(01:10:58):
and everything you know, try to get you its places.
They make you look fantastic right doing the job. I
get it. But then when again in it's like, yo,
you said that you would do X, Y and Z right,
So how how would you once you become judge, right,
how how would you suggest not even just you, but

(01:11:19):
any other person that got on the bar, well got
on the chair, you know, how would you suggest people
hold them accountable right for doing things that they said
that they was and not doing anymore right. And so
if someone you know, are upset or feel like they're
not doing these judges aren't doing what they saying that
they're doing, then how do they hold them accountable after that?

Speaker 5 (01:11:41):
But the question is you got to first voting to
people that should be there. That's right, vote hundred, that's
the vote first. That's gonna talk about them, but go ahead,
that's the first part. So a person don't is not
doing what they need to do. Your here in the
streets that this judge is is slamming people who shouldn't
be slammed because at the same time, and I don't
want to try to bash the brother who did put

(01:12:02):
the statement out about being soft on crime, But until
it affects your family and you see your family un
justly sentenced, that's when it hits home. There's a lot
of families who had people unjustly sentenced, so it's already
hit home for them. Now the question becomes, are you
out voting to make sure it's not done to somebody
else's family? So that's how you hold them accounta But
I tell you it's easy to hold me accountable. I'm

(01:12:23):
in thirty thirty Diamonds typically from April to November. Coat
your people, children, I'm not hiding I've been there forevers Listen,
I've been attorney here in the city the same way,
and the person can say he didn't do this. I'm
in the same spot every year, thirty third in Diamond
from April to November, and I'm near. So if you
think I was that bad of a person, I didn't

(01:12:44):
care I sold people out of I'm near.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Yeah, one hundred percent. Now you there's since you brought
this up. When we talk about firearms, right, there's conversation
and there's a lot of issues as it relates to
legal firearms and these goost guns and everything that's coming in.
How would you suggest, uh, we as Philadelphia as a community,

(01:13:09):
that we handled it. Some people argue about you know,
the gun the gun laws, right, they should be stiffer.
Some people argue with One of the things that I
always argue is, you know, make it easier to get licenses,
because then you know that you know pretty much who
has a gun, right. But you know, when I got
my gun license, they made it so hard to get

(01:13:31):
a license. So if that's the case, right, something is
small as well. At the end of your name. You know,
why does your license say junior on it? But this
document say it doesn't say junior. It's like, come on,
I mean not putting on so so something like that
that would then put somebody to say, well, then forget
a license, then then I'll carry another way. So that said,

(01:13:55):
what do you suggest as it relates to gun control?

Speaker 5 (01:13:59):
Again, I'm I'm a historians. I'm gonna start off. I'm
not going around the bust of the question. I'm just
gonna tell you how I look at the question Ali North,
the Iron Country scandal. What was that about cocaine and
guns being running our community and particularly Compton art imitates life?
What was it called X? Remember Ice c was X

(01:14:20):
and he said the freedom that we have may not
be free. And this guy said, you mean all the
time they've been paying us the hauled cheese and were
hauling guns, and what they do They just took the
guns and put them in the community. I believe when
you start talking about these ghost guns and other guns
in our community, just like we talk about cocaine in
our community, people are putting them there. People so cracked

(01:14:42):
because of the exponential amount of money you can make
off a small amount. So if I get twenty eight grams,
and I started twenty eight grams, and I put a
little superior bie and some bacon powder, and I slow
it up and break it up and make it bigger,
and I'm coming back in sixty grams. Now I'm doubling
my money off that won twenty eight grams. Let's talk
about that part. Well, if you go to buy a block,
you go by block nineteen, and that clock nineteen to

(01:15:04):
five hundred dollars. How can a hellum a seld on
the street for two hundred to tell them for two hundred,
I got it for free. I'm not gonna pay five
hundred lose be on it. It doesn't make sense. So
we all know that when it comes time for these
things to get on the streets, either you're getting it
for free or you get it for next to free.

Speaker 4 (01:15:20):
So even speaking about that, a lot of the crime
is because of like just say, minimum wage Pennsylvania is,
you got Delaware who's increased their minimum wage. You got
New York Philadelphia hasn't a lot of times we've even
talked about the abortion rate abortion rate is high with
the black community because they feel like they can't afford it,
not because they don't want the child on other reasons.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
It's they can't afford it. So do you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:44):
Think that if the minimum wage was to go higher
or more money into the city for our children, would
that help with the crime rate from the youth?

Speaker 5 (01:15:52):
Absolutely? I believe that would help with the crime rate.
And the crime rate again is relative. So growing up
with Richard Island, we had Harrison School which is now closed.
What's the elementary school which is now closed? Carmen which
is now closed, which is now Spring Garden. So we
start talking about elementary schools in the neighborhood or the neighborhood.
Kids didn't change, kids are still there, but where are

(01:16:13):
they going to school? At? Are they even going to school?
Do you even have options for the schools that they
had when I was growing up? Kearrny is now in
a Blue ribbon school. Out to Kearney there's a Blue
Ribbon school, but you know it's a Blue rim school
for nor the Liberties. What's that? Northern Liberties now three
or four hundred thousands of homes. So at the end of
the day, yeah, minimum wage is important, but we cannot

(01:16:35):
start without making sure our kids are educated in order
to get these jobs. How many kids can't read or write?

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
Oh man? They was talking about that, and they're saying
that some of the quality of the learning that some
of the kids are they're not getting anymore learn cursive heavy.
It's heavy. So so let's let's let's jump into let's
jump into how people are right. So I'm gonna start

(01:17:06):
because you mentioned this and I wanted to jump on
this because this is we do these little civic moments,
right and for every voice, every vote, and we talk
a lot about the importance of voting and how some
people feel like why should I vote and my vote
doesn't count, or you better vote you know x y
and z because the ancestor is in X, Y and z. Right.

(01:17:26):
So I just want to ask you the question that
I start with as the civics moment moment, Why is
it important to vote?

Speaker 5 (01:17:35):
Well, it's important to vote, and particularly to understanding who
you're voting for, because it's only way you want to
have change. You think about how Wilson Good, what is
Wilson Good known for? M An You're the bomb and
that's what he's known for. No one talks about Wilson
Good when it comes to making sure builds can be

(01:17:56):
taller than where yours. This city, this city said you
couldn't build the build the bigness of Look at the
west side now of Market Street, Comcast one and two,
Liberty one and two. It looks totally different than the
east side of Market streets? And why does that look?
Because they wanted to make sure our sister Surrel park

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a good bad how we want to think about her,
She understood one thing. We have to go ahead and
put a shot into the community in order to be
able to grow that community. The east side of Market
Street is horrible. Nothing is going on the east side.
But Wilson Good is only known for Old Sage Avenue,
not for theation of the west side of Market Street.
That's insane to me. And because we voted for a

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black man, the first black man in the city, we
don't even give them the procestests needed. So then we
start saying we're just going to vote for anybody instead
of voting for people who can help our community. John Street,
the revitalization of our communities, getting the blight and stuff
off the streets, something as simple as that. We don't
even talk about that anymore because we let people coming

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like Mary Kenny, who tapped out in the middle of
his second tenure and said, okay, this is where we
are and how's how's even the mayor? What made him
a mari quality in the first place. We went from
having Rizzo, who is a high school graduate running the
fifth largest city in the country. His brother is the

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chief of police, the other brothers the chief of the
fire department. We are crazy. Today is long, but we
will vote for other people because we think the ice
is colder. We will hold their feet to the fire
more than we will hold our own.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
So we are nonpartisan, right, we don't lean to any side.
The one thing that we always say is that we're
going to support people who we know is support in
the community. Right, how would you how would you manage
your your your judge ship being fair to everyone that's

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within the community. How would you run with it?

Speaker 5 (01:20:07):
And and that's that's the that's the thing I don't see.
And again we talk about race doesn't matter. Race doesn't
matter because I want to see more of us in
the court than anyone else. But because you see a
sprink fling with someone else in the courtroom. Don't mean,
oh I get something surprising. Facts is still the facts.
Poor is poor. I had a professor Salima in law
school said, listen, rock mind, it's not gonna worry about color, this, that,

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and the third he was he was a guy who
was down with snick back in the day. He went
to the Peace Corps. He did all those things, but
he said, I'm at an age where I see poor
would be the nominating factor. The thing that people are
talking to ever about Trump and it's different policies. They're
affecting all poor people, the appellations, North Philadelphia, South Compton,

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l A. It is hurting. It's hurting everyone who was
poor because people believe that poor doesn't affect color. Color
affects poor because if you're poor, it doesn't matter what
color you are.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
So you're I'm sorry, no grad finish.

Speaker 5 (01:21:09):
So when the people come before you, regardless of where
they come from, wherever zip code they come from, a
lot of these stories are the same. When the stories,
what the story is. If the person is white or
Hispanic Asian, whoever comes before me, and this story is
such that they need to be rehabilitated the same way
a black boy who I can see needs to be

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really abilitated. They get the same They get the same benefit.
There is no well, because I'm here now, I'm only
gonna look out for my people. That's not what it's about.
It's about making sure fairness is for everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Yes. So you're running for both the Court of Common
please yes, and the municipal court.

Speaker 5 (01:21:47):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
So with majority criminal cases being held for court at arrangement,
which court would you see yourself being more effective in?

Speaker 5 (01:21:56):
That's hard to say because once one of the court,
I'm gonna piggyback back on the question. He said, how
do you hold the judge accountable by making sure you
hold the people or the president judges accountable? What do
that mean? They go ahead and assist and point judges
to where they want them to go. If I get
into municipal court, municipal court deals with preliminary hearings. They
deal with summary offenses, misdeman charges, DUIs. It could be

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marijuana possessional attempt delivered, which is a felony, but the
first time it would still be a municipal court, landlord tenant,
small claims court. What if they say, okay, well, we
know that you can affect whether or not a count
made sense and how they arrested this person and why
this person is sitting in jail with four five hundred
thousand the bell. So what I'm gonna do is I'm
gonna put you over here in landlord tenant, so you

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don't get to be effective at all. You're over here
landlord tenant only dealing with this. But on the flip
side of that, I'm even more effective because I get
to save people homes. So we talked about criminal I
see both sides. I've had family members who was evicted.
I've had my friends who was evicted. I have kids
who's been evicted and they trying to figure out what
to do, coach what we need to do my mom,

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you know. So I see how affect every aspect, whether
it's landlord tenant, where it's the criminal justice system, whether
there's family court when it does with custody, or juvenile
court because juveniles are being arrested again just because anyone
to do. So the fact that I think I could
be helpful, but I can't even see where I would

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go because I don't have the determination of court I
will be in although I'm in municipal court or common
police court and they want to send me the civil
right away. So I know I would help on that vein.
But what if they sent me to Justice dependency court
or I'm just dealing with DHS cases. I'm saying just
but at the same time, I'm able to benefit there
because I know just because for example, you have a mother,
they say, well, Mom, you're never home, but then I'm

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never home. There's gotta work three jobs. Do I take
your kids away from you because of poor economic situation? Well, mim,
your lights are off. That's because y'all raised the electric
bill because the rent went higher, because the subsidies are
now going Wow, So mom would do I can't take
a mom's child when other than not having a financial resources,

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she can't provide. But she's a great mother. Why not
have a system to aid her to make sure her
being a great mother fits her financial needs to where
now they both meet each other. The same way we
have bringing kids out here who can't go to school
because they don't have the money. We know, we don't
let him go to college. We don't give a dad.
We can't figure out how to go to college. You

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just don't go you don't have the money. Well, I
don't think a person should lose her child.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
Well what would you do? Would you offer different resources?

Speaker 5 (01:24:40):
We absolutely, we have resources in the system. We have
resources in the system. Unfortunately for us, a lot of time,
the resources are not drawing her out to our community.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
We have them. Wow, uh yeah, So so there's no
question about your qualityifications. Let's let's talk a little bit
about some of the achievements and affiliations Chainey University of
Pended Bachelors of Arts and Political Science Boom, Saint Thomas

(01:25:09):
Scott School of Law, Juris Doctorate degree Boom, Florida State
and Federal Bar Association, Pennsylvania State and Federal Bar Association,
Delaware Federal Bar Association, New Jersey Federal Bar Social That
sounds like I'm spitting bars, right. Who's who amongst students
in American College of Universities Gamma Theta Upsilon, International Geography

(01:25:33):
Geographical Honor Society, Alpha Phi Sigma National Honor Society, Alfa
Kappa New Honor Society. And this one was a mistake
of his. It's okay, Omega Fraternity Incorporated. Everybody makes mistakes
every now and then. But my brother, my brother.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
He who's your fraternity?

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
I like my brother. You know what I'm saying. You
got that blue white one though, you know, I mean
it's all that that looked like blue and white to me.
You know what I'm saying, some child to my brother
in Cheney's the blocking me. It's all good, you know game.
Oh and so with that said, right, uh, how can
so when when they go to the polls, how do

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they find you?

Speaker 9 (01:26:21):
Do?

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
You know, like your batt information and all that.

Speaker 5 (01:26:24):
Yet we don't have that. Ye, we actually want the
nineteenth when we go back to Harrisburg for just to
pick the ballot numbers. Okay, and again what she asked
me about running for both courts. Typically once you figured
you a little bit, Typically once you get your ballot position,
then you make the termination which one you will continue
to pursue because same For example, I have a higher
number on CP and a lower number on MC. Well,

(01:26:44):
because I'm not backed by the party and it's going
to cost an astronomic to Waney money anyway, I would
just go on one.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Court, gotcha, got you, gotcha? But all of your background,
you can run in any court. I mean, it's what
it's so definitely heavily qualified and yeah, man, thing we
always say to the show is once you come to
the show, you're a friend to the show, so you're
always welcome to come back. And next time you'll be back,
I'm sure that you'll be on the bench. So you
got promise you'll come back to talk about you know

(01:27:12):
where we are next. That said, how can they get
in contact? What you find out more about you and
all of your campaign and all that good stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:27:20):
Okay, my Instagram is call we abdul rock Mond for
judge and that's q A w I A B d
U L hyphen r A H M A N the
number four judge Instagram the same thing. What's that email?
It's the same as call we abdul rock mode Ford
Judge at gmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:27:42):
Okay, Yeah, I want to shout out to United for Strife.

Speaker 4 (01:27:47):
Valentino, my little sister for bringing you know, for letting
us know about this, because you were very, very knowledgeable
of Philadelphia, your native of Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (01:27:56):
And the the the justice system.

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
So we need more representation of that because we talk
about it a lot here where people on the streets,
as far as even the police officers. Let's just say,
you see a crowd outside of a barbershop, people who
don't know think that there's some mayhem going on, and
these are men just talking. So when you know what
you see and what you've grown up in, really short story,

(01:28:21):
I work in the medical feel. There was a nurse
who saw a patient and the woman kept hitting her head. Well,
she was now going to be put down for schizophrenia.
Well a nurse came in and said, no, she has
hair extensions that weave. She's scratching her head. If that
black nurse didn't come in to talk to this white

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nurse who was about to put her down for schizophrenia,
she wouldn't have had that type of representation. So I
say all that to just wrap it up to say
a lot of times you need that representation to know
what's going on in your community.

Speaker 3 (01:28:54):
So thank you for joining us.

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
Cultural competence, I mean, people need very least a quick
class on cultural cofegence.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
It's just some things you can't even teach. You have
to just grow up in it too, you know why.

Speaker 5 (01:29:08):
Actually I did a class with some of the judges.
It was dealing with interpretation and how we speak and
whether or not a court reporter gets it down properly,
because all that is important lost in translation. That was
the name of the of the of the talk, and
it was it was an article that ran in the
inquiry when they brought me to talk about it. That's
one of the things I said, Well, we can have

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sayings in our neighborhoods outside of join. They think join
is just joined is a join. But at the end
of the day, if you see, I don't fool with somebody,
there was an intimidation case or case that deals with
some violence, that could be I don't mind harming this person.

Speaker 1 (01:29:44):
Had nothing to do with that.

Speaker 5 (01:29:45):
Loss in translation, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
Yeah, yeah, it was a It was a case where
I mean gentlemen went to the bathroom and was like, Yo,
I'm about to blow this thing up. They interpreted as like, Yo,
you really gonna blow this up like our own little
cloachialisms and some of the things that jargon and some
of the sayings that we say, and so yeah, there
you go. So, my brother, it was a it was

(01:30:10):
an absolute pleasure to have you here. You're more than
welcome to come back. You know, we try to we
like to try to peel back the layers and get
past like what you're running on, because it's easy to
follow the script, right, and that's what generally happens.

Speaker 5 (01:30:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
They go on these you know, these pressed junkets and
these little conversations and they follow the script. But when
they kind of get pulled out, well who are you,
it's like, wait, what, that's not what we came to
talk about, right, But you're the real deal. You fish
your tissue and it's good they hear. It's a it's
a brough of fresh air to know that there's people
in the streets. And one thing that we say that

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we don't we don't support any party. We support the
people who's really doing stuff in them streets. That's who
we support. So kudos to you, my brother, and yeah,
just you know, I decide to know, I pray to
the law, continue to bless your means, and uh just continue,
you know, continue to fight a good fight. We need
people out like there out there in on streets and
protecting those kids. Listen, you are a ad hot slash

(01:31:08):
hybrid father to a lot of these kids, right, and
that's one of the things that you know, believe it
or not, they want to see these young men want
to see because they don't get an opportunity to see it.
And the first time they do see another figure there,
they become intimidated and it becomes like yo, who are
you yes, because they never see that. Yes, but that

(01:31:31):
hugged thing is real. It's real, hugged this young man
that I was talking to any crowd in my arms
like yo, and it's real, you know. And so I'm
always about spreading the love and as men, you know,
standing on our own too and showing these young men that, yeah,
we hear from you know. One of the things that
I think quickly got lost was how we grew up.

(01:31:52):
It was like, uh, you know, you respect OJ's you know,
and the ogs used to protect the young like yo,
go in the house or get off the porch is
about to go down like that. Type. Now it's like
every man for itself. It used to be no women,
no kids. Now I'm seeing kids and women getting shot
and or type of never was like that. And it's
this new culture shift that is happening that I don't

(01:32:14):
know what to put the finger on, but we need
to change that that that, you know what, whatever this
this chemistry, this environment is, we need to get back
to how it was. You know, you can argue with it.
You can, you can get mad at it and get
mad at your folks already said what I said. But yeah,
so my brother, thank you for coming to the show.

(01:32:35):
Is it anything for any of those who might be
watching you today? What would you tell the young man
or or a mom or father that's looking at you today?
And usually, UH have have like challenges or reservation when
it comes to judges, right, because a lot of us
don't have.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
A good EU relationship with judges.

Speaker 1 (01:32:58):
Right, then who look like us?

Speaker 5 (01:33:00):
The question really is When I started coaching liter League
football in Miami, Florida, I asked the kids, I said,
tell me who knows someone who's a teacher, Tell me
who knows someone who's a doctor. Tell me who knows
someone is a lawyer. No one raised their hand. Do
you have any family members that's in jail, somebody who
has a gun? Everybody shot? Everybody raised their hands. So

(01:33:22):
when you say we have reservations, it's not because we
have a reservations because we don't know. We don't know
any so we don't know how to respond or how
to do it. So what do we do? Then we
do the fallback. White is right. We're in a bad situation.
Brother in the bastard. We can't believe that just neither
want to.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
Be what who is hey?

Speaker 5 (01:33:42):
And it's a shame that we still have that mindset
that how he qualified.

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
To do it. Wo, but random from for my brother
over there. You know, I catch you a little longer
than I mean, we usually do it half an hour interview,
but you were spitting bars and I liked that you
was good information. That's that's a sign that we like you,
you know. Sure, So continue to do what you do,
my brother continuing again, like your people, he's more than
welcome to come back. So just reach out towards it.

(01:34:07):
If you're getting closer to So when when is the
actual election? P Twenty May twentieth sizzle? You talked about that,
So we'll talk a little bit more about when they
come out and vote, when to go out and vote,
and how important it is to make sure that you vote.
And so we'll follow this gentleman up to May. And
we only got what two months now, three months? Jeez,

(01:34:29):
I just came up fast. But we don't even think
about the primary no more. We just think of the
next president.

Speaker 5 (01:34:35):
Yeah, and so we got better at your life.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
That's right, that's right. Still we talked about the local,
the local folks. You get involved with the local folks.
We don't do that too much. But then you go,
ladies and gentlemen, I don't want you to go anywhere.
What I saw a show. We all here like last year,
ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
I talked Greg with the beautiful ladies, beautiful Laurence Sizzle and.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
Uh, we'll see you next week. On the other side,
we out here like, lest you one more. How can
they get in contact with you so they.

Speaker 5 (01:35:01):
Know call you the rock mind for Judge, call you
their mind for Judge at gmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
There you go, you and were out here like last year.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
Please