Weird Crap Movie Commentary 1 - Howling 3: The Marsupials (1987) - Weird Crap in Australia

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A strange, spiraling white light was spotted in the early
morning sky over Sydney, with even skeptical witnesses wondering if
it was a UFO.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
They were last seen on the beach with a tall
man and that's the best description police have ever had
of it. More than seventeen years after Harold Holt disappeared
into raging surf at Chevy a Beach, his widow has
finally revealed his last romantic words gocky, terrifying, mesmerizing. That's
the way a number of Australians have described the alleged
encounter with the Yowi. It's time for the Weird Crap

(00:34):
in Australian Podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Welcome to the Weird Crap In Australia Podcast. I'm your host,
Matthew Soul joining me for another episode, a different episode
this time is a researcher extraordinary, Holy Salt.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
I must admit it is very weird to be sitting
on the lounge doing an episode.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yes, so we're actually using a different microphone system this
time that we wouldn't use for our normal podcasts. Holly
does not have a big script in front of us.
She is totally improvising, which must be very, very scary.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
So we're doing once a month, we're doing a movie
commentary and the reason for that is the workload has
become quite big, which we've talked about on previous episodes.
We're not going to label these commentaries under our normal
numbering system. This is actually going to be commentary number one.
We intend to do this for a little while until

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either Holly's back on track or this becomes the way
we like to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
So we're not going to just sit here and watch
a movie quietly. Oh, We're actually going to be talking
about Australian cinema, how this relates to some of the
stuff we've talked about, and we're crap in Australia and
sort of go from there. So it is still, in
my opinion, going to be entertaining whether you can watch
the movie with us or not. But if you do

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want to watch the movie, we're going to be watching
the Howling Three, the Marsupials. It is a huge part
of the ospolitation genre. Get the chance, I would highly
recommend the documentary series, which is core sorry, not serious,
I should say, rather just documentary. It's just a single movie,

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not quite Hollywood and not quite Hollywood features the Howling
three prominently. So the way this is going to work
is I'll give you a three two one, I'll hit
the start, and then that should sink us all up together.
If you want to get a copy of this film,
you can pick it up on Blu Ray from Umbrella Entertainment,

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or you can grab it on Amazon. You can either
pay on demand, I think, or you can actually stream it.
At the moment, I'm not sure we'll have DoLS that
up I believe. So that is that's all there for
you if you'd like to watch it, all right, Haling
three of the Marsupios Holly three two one digitally remastered

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by Frame Center Match. Actually, you know what's interesting about that,
So a lot of these films that's actually quite Oh god,
it's ongoing so far, so I don't have time to talk.
So right at the start of at least out version
of the film, it talks about how this film was
restored by the National Sound and Film Archives. Now our

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good friend mal and Impact Comics. He does school pick
up and drop off with the archivist who actually does
a lot of the restoration work.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
God, this this town is.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
So small another thing as well. The introduction had the
infamous Thila scene. The last scene footage, yes, being the
Tasmanian tiger, which is now extinct due to humans.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Kind of it was kind of parodying the MGM Lion
there a little bit was it was apparently Barry Humphreys
is in this. I've never seen this movie, so this
is the first for me. So if I go very
very quiet, know that I am staring it at the
screen with complete amusement.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
So this is the Howling three. It came out in
nineteen eighty seven. A female werewolf runs away from her
family and falls in love with a man who works
in the movie business, while a sociologist who studies these
creatures is looking for proof of their existence. Now this
is obviously the Howling three, which means that there was

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a Howling one and a Howling two.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
No, No, they completely shocked anything straight three. Yep.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
So Howling was KPI Orchestralian nineteen oh five. We have
some First Nations people there with.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Clearly archival footage of I'm assuming killing a.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Well, I'm guessing that's what that is meant to be.
They seem pretty happy at.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Their efforts tough.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
They're schuffed. So yeah, this is part of a series
of films there are sort of, in my opinion, there
are two sort of quintessential werewolf movies which came out
in the eighties. So the first being An American Werewolf
in London, which was directed by John Landis. That film

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went on to become, you know, sort of the benchmark
for werewolves, especially with a little bit of a comedy
inspired angle as well. And you know, the other film
was The Howling and both of those movies ended up
picking up OSCAR nominations for their practical effects. Obviously, then

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we go to you know, The Howling too, and The
Howling two is notoriously terrible.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
It would believe it's a joke at this point. Yes, well, oh.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
We're at the National Intelligence Agency.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
In the US.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
In the US obviously meant to be a fill in
for the CIA. Now, if you've listened to the Weird
Crap in Australia podcast, you would know that the American
intelligence community has had their foot in Australis.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
But since at least the nineteen sixties.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Since Alis the sixties, so we actually have precedent for that.
Oh yeah, so the Howling two comes Out stars Christopher Le,
the late great Christopher Lee, and there is a absolutely
terrible movie. It was meant to be a vampire film
that was then sort of wreckconned into a howling movie.

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And the Werewolf of Facts basically reconstructed costumes from one
of the Planet of the Apes movies. They just sent
them a bunch of ape costumes and then the onset
designer had to sort of fix them up. The practical
effects in this movie, you're actually quite good.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
I have two problems with what you just said.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
One, Cross Crystaval is in it, so it has to
be a vampire movie. Number two, how can you make
a good movie without How can you make a bad
movie with Christopher Lee in it?

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Oh? It's bad, It's bad. Oh. Yeah. So we're watching
footage here of some indigenous people. Okay, so I've got
a question immediately.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
So the film opens up with this is happening in
nineteen oh five? Right, So it's opened up with this
is happening in nineteen oh five. How did someone video record.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
It with such a very high quality frame rates? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:54):
So someone went back in time with a camcorder to
record footage from nineteen oh five, so this sociologists can
show his class.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, it's definitely not one of those brown boxes all
over their calls.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, so we couldn't film like that in nineteen oh five,
which is quite funny. Yeah. So The Calling three is
directed by Philippe Mora. Philippa Mora is, according to his
own Philippai Filipe. Filipe is his French. There we go now,

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According to his OMDB, is a highly talented artist filmmaker
with an impressive resume to boast of. He was born
in Paris in nineteen forty nine to George and Merca
Morra moved to Melbourne, Australia in nineteen fifty one. Now,
looking at some of his films, there's definitely some that
we would know this director from hang on, are.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
They're breaking the fourth wall here? Why he's just looked
twice at the camera and gone where wolves?

Speaker 1 (08:56):
I mean, I'm guessing that it has more to do
with them not being able to actor actors and instead
they have to hire whoever. Maybe so you would know
this director Holly from such films as Mad Dog Morgan,
which we have watched and we own. He still was

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producing films all the way into twenty twenty one, so
he's probably still kicking at this point. He definitely has
quite an extensive career. Oh, he directed another film You
loved What, Oh God, nineteen eighty nine, Community Scare the

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crap out of Holly.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
I don't like those aliens. I really don't like those aliens.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Communion is the story of Schreiber, who recounted his alien
abduction and encounter experiences in the book Communion, and it
was later made into a film with Christopher Walkin.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yep, millions and they're horrible and they're creepy, and I
don't like them.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Oh. He also directed The Howling too.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Oh, how did this one get any better? Then?

Speaker 1 (10:13):
This one is better? But how this one is better?
That's okay. So here's our first you know, Australian.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
This is absolutely Australia that we're filming in because he's
the Opera House and the Harbor Bridge. We've watched a lot.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Of exploitation films, right, exploitation films specifically, and I'm sort
of curious, Holly, why was it so easy to film
in Sydney whereas now I would imagine it would be
like millions of dollars to film in Sydney, like with
the what's the last film we watched? The film in

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Sydney probably four.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Guy, yeah, full go, I think it was the last one.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Was And they got on the O so they actually
got to film in front of the opera house.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Biggest problems at the moment things like public insurance.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
We're being introduced to our main were wolf character, but.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Well we're in the middle of the Blue Mountains, which
are definitely very close to Sydney.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I also picked a Sydney movie because I knew you'd
be able to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Actually, this looks like it might actually be out the
back Pickton in Australia. The reason why you can't film
is or it's very expensive to film now is because
they don't need the tourist dollars. They've got all the
international visitors from specific countries. They don't have to worry
about actually targeting anybody. Insurance is a big thing. If
you've paid multi million dollars for skyscrapers, you're going to

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charge an I'm on a leg for someone to film
on the top, because why the hell wouldn't you all
those kinds of things. It basically just comes down to
money and who's asking who are these people?

Speaker 1 (11:54):
So these are this is our trial for Australian werewolves.
So our professor is interested in trying to, you know,
to uncover this society of werewolfs. Yeah, you may actually
recognize that actor that was forcing a kiss on the
young lady there, the hairless one. The hairless one. Yeah,

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now I'm trying to find.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
That's that's okay, someone just confessed to the priest. He's
my stepfather. He's a wowolf and he tried to reap me.
We're definitely not in the twenty twenties film industry.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Now, Oh, this is a strange movie. Just in case
you were.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
No, I'm starting to feel that. Don't worry. Did you
find who he was?

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I'm just looking that up. You keep talking about what
you're seeing here.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
This is the center of Hyde Parkin's Hyde Park in Sydney,
the near the museum.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
They must have been I legally filming, right.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Well, I'd assume that that's why this is like the
middle of three am at most, because Sydney doesn't at
least back then it didn't close down.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
We've got our first I'm a bit of a werewolf moment.
There is going to make up effect, some fangs, We've
got some miss a lot in contact.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, the contacts aren't sitting very straight, so she looks
like she has a lazy eye.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yes, this character's name is here.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
We are underneath the Harbor Bridge.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
How would you even pronounce that? Jibboah?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Which one am I looking at?

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Jabboah?

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Jibboah played by Imogen Ainsley actually was in a lot
of Australian films and I believe finished her career up
with Queen of the Damn she is club vampire. That's unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
A little bit of a fun bit of trivia here.
It's a lot harder to drive under the Sydney Harper
Bridge on this site, on the Sydney Opera house side nowadays.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, so we're seeing God. That's a beautiful shot, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, Kira Billy houses in that shot across the water there,
and yes, there are the gun turrets that I was
talking about when we did the Sydney Opper Bridge episode.
So bridge a bridge.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
So why is it more difficult to park under there? Now?

Speaker 2 (14:17):
It's more difficult to drive under there because they don't
want people driving around under there, just because it's now
one of those big tourist spots. They've also replaced all
the fencing and stuff, so it's a little less pretty,
let's put it that way. Of course, the rocks is
full of all the old convict chisel sandstone, which is

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what she's trying to climb over at the moment. Said
by every creepy motherfucker out there, I'm a director on
a film, I'll get you a job.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
This is what I love about eighties exploitation cinema. Right, cinema.
I used the word loosely. They don't really give a
fuck about pot right, So the characters rocked up. He's
seen this pretty girl sitting on a bench, chased her
upper hill and it's like, you're going to would you

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like to be in my movie? You know? And that's
another eighties trot is you can make the setting a
movie because you're filming a movie, so it's cheap.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Oh, and we're now out the back end of who
knows we have.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Buses like that in Truman they're those old cream busses.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
No, they weren't around when I was chilling. They obviously
got shifted out to the back end.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
So how do you feel about the conceit of Marsupia
werewom the concept.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
I honestly, look, it makes kind of a little bit
of sense based around the story. Why is that dude
got on accent his head and a knife.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Finished chest because they're filming a werewolf movie?

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Oh okay, so it's all fake. Okay, Sorry, I took
my eyes off to look at Matthew for half a
second because we're having a conversation and I completely lost
track of the plot. I feel like that will happen
a lot in this movie.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
This movie moves very very quickly, very very quickly. You know,
we'll talk about one thing that's happening, and then like
five other things are gonna happen. Like think about where
we're What about ten minutes into this movie, right, yep,
and so far you've been introduced to the werewolf tribe,
the sociologist investigating the werewolfs our two main characters are

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film set. Yep, she has left the tribe of werewolf.
She's already been accosted in Hyde Park, and some of
the werewolf tribe, dressed as nuns, are already in a
bus headed deciny to come find out. Yep. We are
ten minutes in I.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Get guarantee that every single person who is watching at
the fountain here are not extras. I guarantee they're just like, hey,
what are you guys doing. Let's have a look and
see what's going on?

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Oh one hundred percent. There are a bunch of people
in the background, a bunch of Australian looky lose. How
do you feel about how everything looks now like the
very eighties? Or I mean, like in regards to the
differences with Hyde Park, because it doesn't really look that different.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
No, the trees are bigger nowadays. That's about the only
real difference I can see.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
All right, So the fake film within the film is
called it came from Uranus. Yeah, we got some and
we've got some classic body melt effects there. Did you
know that was a genre of exploitation film called melt films.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yes, because you've shown me a couple.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
I've shown you some melt films.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, I know that it's not odspilitation. But does the
thing counters that or is that just body horror?

Speaker 1 (18:04):
I think that that's body horror. A melt film specifically
has to have people melting.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Okay, those are some big pustules. The costume designers of
the makeup artists are doing really good at this point.
Let's see what the way well, oh god.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Let's see the idea here is. And this is what
I'm guessing, right, yeah, is they're like, these are ound
dodgy effects. Just wait until we do like the real effects.
This is the movie in the movie, you know, because
or they're wasting a bunch of.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Money, little column made a little color.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
They're in a relationship.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Now the main character you miss that, Well, I assume
there's been a little bit of time passing. That looks
like it comes straight out of Beetlejuice.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
It does look a bit beat or Juice, doesn't it. Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
it does look a little bit burton masque.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
And she's looking at the camera. That's a sign of
a bad act of folks, although she's in a bad film,
so it's probably an intentional idea.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Now we got a tiny, tiny little bit of CCR's
Bad Moon Rising.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
That's a staple in the werewolf genre, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (19:21):
It is? And I think they hate it.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
I wouldn't be surprised about.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
That, you know, the I think it is. I'm trying
to think now, yeah, be American wealth in London. I
think it's the first time that they used Bad Moon Rising.
Did you know the Howling went up to like Howling seven.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Which is funny because the Shape Shifter movie that they
were doing was part eight. Also, if you sweat this
much after sex, you need to buy an air conditioner.
They got just got sprayed with water. That's that's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Does look very very sweaty. But also Australia nineteen eighties,
I don't.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Think they ever sweated that much sweating degree.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
That's like dripping sweat.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
That is.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Maybe, but that's a bit of a commentary on other
people's sex lives there, Holly, maybe there.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Are I know that there are a lot of people
that sweat a lot.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
But also when we're doing these old splitation films as well,
we've got to have our nudity alert because we haven't
got any yet.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
No, she's wearing right, Well, I think we'll put in there. Okay,
so this is this is the start of the creepy factor.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
No, this is the start of our marsupial factor here right, Okay,
So let's explain how marsupials work. First and foremost, Holly,
do you want to explain that. No, you're pretty horrified,
right now, that's okay, I'll explain how marsupials work. And

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he is really dripping there.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
It's looking more oil than water at this point in time.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, So Australian marsupial animals pretty unique. Do have like
one or two marsupials in South America, but marsupials are
very unique to Australia. And a marsupial the way it
gives birth is the the fetus like animal is essentially born,

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crawls down into the pouch and then it continues to
suckle and grow for about what another Well, it depends
on the species, doesn't it. So our main character who's
just had sex with this woman that he found on
the beach, who is now the star of their movie, right,

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this is all happening very fast post what seems to
be very very sweaty sex, has looked down. Her entire
lower stomach is covered in fur, and there is a
nice little sort of suggestion of a pouch.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
It looks like is Azarian section scar but yeah, it's
supposed to be a pouch. Russian Ballerina defects to Oz.
One of the things I like doing in like old
movies and TV shows, is looking at the set dressing
to see what articles are being into noticeboard and stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Would it surprise you to know that this director has
been involved in a lot of communist projects.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
No, it wouldn't. And now I'm thinking that maybe that
headline actually has something to do with the Petrov affair
when the Russians defect.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Australia and what Walsh picks a key way.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Which is a horse riding thing based on the picture
of the jockey.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
And the paper is the Daily Mirror. Yes, Russian ballerina
defects to Oz.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
So the type is so small I can't tell you
the date.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Also that part, so I would say they've broad a
board broadsheet, they've wrapped their fake cover around it.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
It looks like it.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
So the guy who directed this is a big socialist.
And if you've listened to the Weird Crap in Australia podcast,
you know that socialism isn't a bad word, right if
you understand it's actual meaning. Socialism is not communism. It's

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weird how the director is dressed like Dracula.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
I was gonna say he kind of reminds me of someone,
but I'm not sure who.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
I think there are a couple of Well, isn't that
guy from one of the mad Maximums?

Speaker 2 (23:51):
I honestly don't know. Kathleen Turner. Is that that's an
Australian actress, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yes, apparently she'll be the next Kathleen Turner.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
I see.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
And all she did was standing in front of a
fountain and scream so people pretended to wrap their hands
around a throat.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
But yeah, we will get a Edna average appearance here somewhere,
played by the late Barry Humphries. Dave Medner was a
comedic character I suppose, who's featured in a lot of
our ploitation films, going all the way back to the
Naked Bunya.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Yes, the very first plitation had the very first recorded
or feature film appearance of missus Edna. Everage she wasn't
Dame Madner back then? And now where did disco?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Well? This is the rap party from the film Okay.
Our sociologist is played by Barry Otto Okay, who's been
in a lot of films, actually strictly Ballroom The Punisher
from nineteen eighty nine that starred Dolph Ludmram as Frank Castle,
one of the voices in the Legends of the Guardians,

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The Hours of Gold, the remake of Rogue. In two
thousand and seven, he was in Australia, which was then
repurposed into the TV show Far Away Downs.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
He's had quite a it's a lot of credits.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
I'm guessing related to Miranda Otto.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I as well, Miranda Otto being the lady who plays
one of the aunts in Sabrina the Killing Adventures The Redhead.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Potentially, but I always think of Miranda Otto as the
shield maiden in the Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Let's have a lot.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Great Gatsby as well, seems to be a frequent collaborator
with Yes, that is one of the aunts. From there
we go, We're gonna have some sweaty, sweaty sex again.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yes, he's already rubbed off most of his dracular makeup
on her neck doing all these shots that no one
bothered to reapply the face paint.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
We still are not at a nudity, No, we're not.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
He's just lifted the skirt and gone for it, and
apparently she punched him in the deck. We've got more contacts.
They better situated this time, that is the question.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
This is sort of an interesting element to it, actually
that I find this like every single film has their
own law, right, their own law about you know, what
the were wolf can do and all that sort of stuff. Right,
So in this movie, for whatever reason, the Marsupial were wolves.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
I've been there, Yes, center point tower in the background. Yeah, actually,
and I'm pretty sure that scaffolding is still there.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Well, that's that was in the background shot. You know
what I saw that? No Indiana Jones four in the
crystal skull.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
What a waste.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah, a bit of a shame. Oh, we're going into
an arcade, classic arcade.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
This is what we used to spend our weekends doing. Children.
They were still around when I was in my teen years,
but they went around for much longer than that.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
I mean, there's still the periodically, there's still a round.
My camera has two large arcades.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Now they pop up, realize that they don't work, die
off again, and then pop back up again.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Right, So this is how these are meant to actually
be were wolves.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah right, they look more like hairless dogs.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
This is the unfortunate bit where see I don't know
if they're half transformed or whether they Yeah, no, so
a bunch of peopering out. They obviously started eating them.
You know, obviously you only have so much money. Yep.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
You can't really show the nuns destroying everybody, but you
can imply it.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
So I think like if you had to do, oh,
she's been hit by a car, looks like it we
miss that scene.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
I don't think they played it.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Are they classic Australian Ambulance Office A uniform sare?

Speaker 2 (28:17):
I believe so because that was definitely new South Wales cops.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, that's definitely the police uniform is right because it's
still really hasn't changed and.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
That's that definitely looks like an AMBO, an actual ambulance,
so that would explain the actual ambulance uniforms. This however,
is not a hospital.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
No, but yeah, going back to what I was saying
there before, I got very very sidetracked. So or where
will films kind of have their own mythology, and it
appears in this flashing lights seem to induce the transformation
and strobe lights. You know, when you're dealing with these

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sort of things, like you can just do whatever the
hell you want, Like it's not that big.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
A deal, especially for like a what C D E
Grade movie. Where does it sit in the hierarchy?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
This is really hard, Like as far as exploitation films go.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Right, that's a university corridor.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
I happen to feel like this looks better than a
lot of the ones we've seen.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yes, you know, it's definitely got a better film quality
to it.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, yeah, I think so, Like we're going to do,
you know, a couple of the more famous ones. I
think I started with this one because I thought, well,
it's going to be easy to talk about the Marsupial angle,
and that's kind of fun, you know, like the the
doctors called up the sociologist and it's like, hey, come

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check out. Stop playing with a belly.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Belly whole, Matthew, it's got a pouch.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
It's really gross.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
It is really gross, and they should not be doing this.
This is like there's no consent here, not even a
little bit.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
So Australians were marsupials, this is what it would look like.
Oh and the American generals are here too.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Which the NIA has gotten in on.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
It, which is interesting because when it comes to accounts
of UFO contact and things like that, Yep, they often
describe seeing people in American military uniforms. I love that
fish eye lens, doesn't he he does. That's what that's called.
So if you're watching something that's like from a point

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of view of the main character's perspective, and it sort
of has a curvature around it, it's our fish islens
gives you that curved effect.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
No, I don't like this.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, this is a particular the effect.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
And I don't It's a chest burster and I know
like this, but it is.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Creepy the hell. Yeah, there are a lot of effects
in this movie.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, they spent a lot on those kinds of stuff.
Not much effort being put into that.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Rage man, she got pregnant real quick and has started
forming the pouch real quick.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
So yeah, I'm assuming our sociologist has actually rocked up
because his doctor friend was like, Hey, I've got a
weird case for you.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Is this weird thing that kind of aligns with all
that shit you won't stop talking about when we go
down the pub. You want to come and have a look.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
It's nearly an X Men movie.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
It's nearly an X movie.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I suppose so.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, did you feel the texture? She was amazing? I
don't like the sound of.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
That werewolf nuns as well.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I mean, at the very least they could stick to
the idea and actually hide their hair properly. But you know,
reality doesn't really hold much of a bar in this universe.
So if humans actually did take on some marsupial trace,

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do you reckon?

Speaker 1 (32:26):
This would be close, I would say so. Actually. Now,
interestingly enough, because I have watched this movie, there will
be a scene a little bit later on where you
actually see her give birth the marsupial.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Oh, I don't want to. I don't want to see that.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
In my opinion, it's fairly accurate. Okay, right, like you
get your little jelly bean as you affectionately call them.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yes, okay, So apparently she's gone nuts and she's decided
that she's going to heat up the table she was
sitting on because that was a lot of steam.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
No, the werewolf numbs walking there and rescued her.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah, but there's a lot of steam coming off the
metal table. So nuns have taken her in there headed
out to out back. I realistically think that if there's.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Going to be a wielue mountains, it's very flat where
they were traveling.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I realistically think if there's a werewolf colony in Australia,
it will be out the back of the hay planes
because nobody wants to be there. It is very flat
and there are a lot of em us.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
To chasem I'm riding a bogan bo we will.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I mean, in that case, you're probably going to set
it up around with your hometown, wouldn't it be.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Also, this is the first time that I've sort of
done like a lot of extended recording with this lap mic. Yeap,
my beard has gotten caught into it, into it about
twenty five times.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Sorry for the scratching on the recording. Well, she's a marsupial,
not really an early stage of pregnancy. Considering most of them,
it's only what three four weeks at most that they've
got a baby.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Again, the scientistics is explaining it. You know, it's like
we don't know what their metabolism is. This could be
you know, very very queer. You could be the father.
This is a lot to lay down on this poor
young man.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
I think, especially when they don't actually know what she is.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
But again, is this like an example of you know,
the fear of pregnancy. Is that part of this like
be careful, you know you might is it, like, be
careful you might meet a pixie dream girl and you
might have.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
A like baby trapped at like super speed.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah, baby trapped at super speed. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Those uniforms I can't tell if the US or restraint
the US, because I'm pretty sure I've seen the army
guys wandering through looking a bit spick and spin like that,
because there's a lot of defense forced people around the
street around Canberra. Those are lamb bones if anyone's interested

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from like glancing at them.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
This is why it's going to be fun doing commentaries
with you, is because you're going to be actually able
to tell me some of those props.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
That's pork bone, the knee that's currently on that picture.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Now, this is where most people watching this film are
going to be confused if you remember back to her
quite a few scenes ago now, because there are a
lot of scenes in this movie. That's the ballerina who
defected from Russia.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Okay, so that little throwaway line, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I would hate for someone to stick their fingers in
my mouth.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Like this out of my face, get way out of
my face.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
She's a Russian ballerina. Were Wolf yes, So he's checking
her teeth to say whether they'd come through it or not.
And here's a psychic.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Is weird?

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Here's a psychic because he's twitching, because he's receiving transmissions,
still twitching. This movie moves very much.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
See it says, I see a face, and my brain
started playing Bahumia Rhapsody. That's that's nothing.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
No, that is the picture she's holding there. That's the
picture of the leader of the werewolf tribe.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
I'm aware, but that's also nothing.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Can you explain, actually to our listeners who may not
have listened to exploitation? Can you explain why these movies
were made? From the financial perspective of the tax break system?

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Okay, so, for a period of time in Australia which
lasted in the seventies through the eighties, if you invested
into a film on Australian soil, so you invested one
hundred thousand dollars, you could then claim one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars in tax breaks.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
So you'd only get to keep profits that are tax
free too, generated from the film.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yep, So any small business, any individual who wanted to
greatly benefit from all of this could just invest in
Australian film and as long as it got released to
a very small amount of cinemas, it counted. You got
your money, you got your tax breaks, and everybody won,

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especially the people who like going and watching tits and
US movies.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, there's I can't remember which one we watched.
But the director decided he was just going to win.
So basically soft core pornography into the film.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Oh, some of it wasn't really that soft corey though.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
You know. Basically was like, well, I'm just going to
insert the soft corpornography scenes into the film just to
drive people coming to the cinema.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, I have no idea what move that is. I
will look it up.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
It's on our it's on our shelf there somewhere, because
we Holly and I have been collecting osploitation films, you know,
for quite some time, like in our lead up to
our series on Exploitation, where we did I think it
was a four party, didn't it, And then and then
we had the sequel series to that, which was the

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three part Mad Maxill. She's transforming. It's the lights. It's
the lights, Holly, the lights. They're waking them up.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
That flashing light.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
You gotta be careful if you're aware wolf, and you
can easily get transformed at the side of lights and
stage effects and so on and so forth. Look, we're
going full make up here. Oh why would you be
a performance artist.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Because you just love to dance.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
So this is our full This is out the first
time you're actually seeing what they would consider like, uh full.
Just stay the other ballerina.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
There, Yes he did, she did, sir.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
What do you think of that? The were wolf head there?

Speaker 2 (40:19):
It was very silvery well the other werewolf so far
of being brown coated, so you know, it's a bit different.
It looks a lot like it's not an underworld a
were wolf. It's a werewolf in London were wolf.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Like the really wealf in London were wolves were.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Really doggy wolfy quadrupeds. Yes, but the face looks very wolfy.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Well, Holly and I disagree very much on what a
were wolf should look like. I think a were wolf
is bipedal. I think they have, you know, the head
of a wolf. Here we go, here's another werewolf. He
just rocked up. Whoever this were wolf.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Well, I'd say that that's the tribe.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Lader I'm assuming or at least one member of the tribe.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
I wouldn't say it's probably the leader.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
So on on a scale of bad dog to cool werewolf.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Where are we at, creepymaletherfucker, that's where were Marsupials are
not set up like that.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Well, they're in the Marsupial werewolves. So these are the
Russian werewolves.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Okay, I will let it lie then, but marsupials have.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
They just threw a dummy off. But that's not a
bad dummy. It's kind of Actually, that's not a bad dummy.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
It's not waving kind of erradically in the wind.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
My guess is when they threw that dummy off the
building there, I'm guessing that the knees were articulated and
that's what gave it that the kind of solid look.
Not a bad dummy, Not a bad dummy at all.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah, what I was saying, Marsupials will have the nipples
inside the pouch, so technically she shouldn't have any boobet all.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Russian werewolf, No, I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
The Marsupial version, so they shouldn't have any boobat all
because their tits should be in their pouch.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
That's assuming they're born werewolves.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
If I don't know the law here, I'm telling you
what I.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Think the director knows what the law is. I think
he's just making up as he goes along.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
It's so familiar to me.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
We're back to the boyfriend again. I mean it's familiar
to me too. Like this is. If you go up
to the back of Chirming up along way Jasper, you've
got that sort of beautiful classic Australian bush foliage.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Out the back near Gulban winder Miller Randa. All those
those areas will look like that as well. That look
like Old Sydney Town.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
That's a thing, park, isn't it old? It used to be.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
It used to be like you know how in America
they'd have pilgrim villages and you could go and be
a pilgrim for a day. Yep, they used to do
that with Old Sydneytown.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Now. Old Sydney Town also filled in as the backdrop
for a few episodes of miney More from Power Rangers.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Good look.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
So it's kind of a funny thing. So money More
from Power Rangers comes across to Australia. When we watched
the movie again years and years ago. It was filmed
in two locations, one being the sound stages at Queensland,
which is run by Village Roadshow and Warner Brothers. The

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other place that filmed out mostly for a lot of
the location shots was Circular Key, Darlin Harbor and Darlin Harbor.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Look at that handsome devil.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Can't put a shrimp on the barbie. You don't call
them shrimp, which is funny. So you know the location itself.
They sort of the producers are money more from power
Rangers said, hey, while you're filming this movie, you're behind

(44:14):
schedule on episodes. You have the suits, you have our
stunt team. We want something made. And him Saban, who
ran haim Sabian Productions, was a notorious penny pinching piece
of shit. And Fox was producing the movie. So the

(44:34):
movie was actually being produced by a real director, real
movie company, not ham Saban for Fox Kids Productions. So
the two guys who played Bulk and Skull, they said,
you can direct and produce the episodes. Because they were
both you know, film students like they wanted to make movies.

(44:55):
They said, can you go off and make something for us?
So they out to Old Town. That's what's called, right,
the amusement park called Amusement Old Sydney Town. So they
reach out to them and are like, hey, can we
do some episodes there? So the Power Rangers go back
in time to fight the British and it fills in

(45:17):
for Angel Grow during the War of Independence.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
We have some nudity wantings here.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, So this is our first hit of nudity in
the film, if you can call it that, because the
first of the oh no, we can see yeah, nudity
alert number one.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
For an exploitation film, this is quite this is quite conservative.
So this is this is the scene that I was
talking about, Holly. This is the actual birthing of a
marsupial werewolf scene.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
So let's talk about accuracy here. So we have our
jelly bean ye being birthed from the vagina.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yeah right, standard, what do you think It looks like
a rat that someone's given a bingy brain, gigantic head.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
But this is exactly how you would expect a were
wolf marsupial to give birth, right.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
Yeah, I guess if you think about it, is accurate.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Yeah, it is what I'm saying. So we've got our
little were wolf baby fetus.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Was towards the pouch. That's what she's doing.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
I don't know if this was the right movie to pick.
I'm like I thought, I thought it would be entertaining.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
To explain why actually put a costume on a mouse?

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Is that what that is?

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Because you look at his feet, Yeah, it's a mouse
that they've put a costume on.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
That's not that's it. That's its puppet because that's got its.
But there was a shot there.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
If you look at his feet, you'll see that those
are actual mouse.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Feet, and she had to have that on the stomach. Right,
So our little were wilf fetus baby has been born
normally crawl has been courage to crawl up to the
pouch and is in the pouch. So I would argue

(47:31):
that that is as accurate as you could be if
a werewolf marsupial existed. What do you think I'd go
with that?

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Yeah, you have a wide collection of bones there. Most
of them are beef. There is some venison bones in there.
They're the ones that give you the look of the
tibia and the arm bones.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
So we're in the were wolf commune at the moment.
That's what Holly's describing all the set dressing and all
the decorations around.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
No humans were harmed in the making of this set.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah, so our Russian werewolf pairs found the tribe leader
of the American wolf. Don't worry if you're like the
Australian wealf. Sorry, don't worry if you're like, man, this
is moving fast, or I'm confused at the pace of
this movie. It's fine.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
By the time we finished one sentence two scenes of past, it's.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Moving, it is, it is moving that quick. Now the
sociologists character is I really find this so fascinating, right, yep, Right,
So we do have our indigenous actor who was just introduced,
and here's like where wolf's a bad stay away from them.

(48:49):
Here we go, We've got another scene. We've got some
light there, Holly, it's growing, little baby is it's a
different puppet though. Yes, Oh look it's sucking his thumb.
Look at that.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
I don't hate that. I think for the amount of
money that they would have had, I don't hate that.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
So our first Nations actor there, his name is Burnham.
Burnham suppose according to IMDBBI.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
I've definitely seen him in something.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Yes, he has been in a few things. Let's have
a look and see what he's meaning. They're in a cap.
That's the actor guy, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah, that's the boyfriend. We're back to these guys again.
And she's like, Hey, holy crap, that kid is getting
big real.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Quick, surprisingly quick.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Yes, but she's just walked up and been like, hey,
this is our baby. Check out my pouch. And he
seems pretty cool with all this.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
He's gonna chill, which is you know what.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
I think he's a keeper on our good boyfriend and
bad boyfriend scale in films. I'm going to actually call
him good supportive boyfriend because she's throwing a lot at
this man.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
She is throwing a lot. Mister Burnham spent thirteen episodes
of TV series called Bonnie or Bony and one episode
in the Country Practice. Otherwise, he's only had two other credits,
which were both in the eighties. Okay, he did die

(50:35):
in nineteen ninety seven, so that would be why his acting.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Career stopped just around then.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
But he was sixty one, so.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
All right. Interestingly enough, we did actually have the American
soldier uniforms, and now they've switched to French perhaps.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
I guess for whatever uniform they could find at the
costume store.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Yeah, so this special ops team has surrounded our tribe
offs and and has guns, but they seem to be
special forces. They're wearing berets with white gloves.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Kangaroo bones on the table left. I will keep doing
this just because Matthew encouraged me. They look like French uniform.
But that looked like the beret.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Yeah, that's really weird.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
The Rising Sun being Australia.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
But then it's also got the American the Chevrons. That's
a really strange uniform. See. I thought they were going
to like massacre all of the were wolves here.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
But looks like they just wanted her.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
How do you explain this movie to a potential investor?
Going back to what we were talking about with the
tax breaks, do you do you go to your local
fish and chip shop and explain the concept and.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
We're making a movie. Do you want to use the
tax bras? Yes? Do you want to know what the
movie's about? Yes, Okay, it's about Australian werewolves and a
defecting Russian wolf. There will not be much tits or asked,
but there will be some creepy creatures kill. Make that
check out too, I don't know soul industries.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Or whatever I was thinking, Pama Frida. I actually think
like the restraint in not being to TNA is quite impressive.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
I mean it is late eighties. By the end of
the eighties, the censorship was changing, I believe.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
So the first time I watched this film, I want
to say, me and my brother Lindsay rented it on VHS,
right because we and a certain point we just started
trolling through our video rental store, which has got you know,
which was video easy and for you kids, a video

(53:04):
was a VHS. It's magnetic tape on two spools.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Don't worry vintage and retro and all that is slowly
bringing that back.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
I hate that crap.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
It's a horrible idea. Same with cassettes.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
So this is where I have a lot of problems
with nostalgia. Right. So, and I say that ironically considering
I have a vinyl record stand over.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
There, yes, and a lot of records.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
So I like vinyl records. I like that there tactile,
I like that they have a little bit of scratchiness
to them sometimes. And some of my final records are originals,
so that means they were recorded on original analogue equipment, right,
so they have a very unique sound. Video cassettes were

(53:56):
the best of.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Best of a horrible era.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Yeah, they were the best option that we had for
home entertainment. You couldn't put the whole movie most of
the time on a single video cassette, so they were
often edited down, drain and censorship board would more often
than not have a lot of control yep over films.

(54:25):
So one of the notorious ones for me was Men
in Black. Yes, so years like we do these sort
of annual rewatches of things that we love when when
we're kids. So you know Men in Black, Jurassic Park,
the Power Ranger movies, the nin Eternal films, and watching
Men in Black. There's this whole scene that I had

(54:48):
no idea was even in the movie where Will Smith
confronts an alien. The alien says, hey, this big cockroach alien,
this mega alien is coming. I don't want to be
here for this and jumps off the side of the building. Now,
the original Australian VHS release of that has him disintegrating
into a bunch of sparks.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Not just the VHS, it was the broadcast version. Yeah,
I'm like ninety percent sure it was also in the cinema.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
However, in the DVD release or the Blu Rail whatever
it was we were watching, or maybe it was even
the streaming release. So we're up to Marsupial baby like
it's up, baby, Baby, are open now? The werewolf baby
is a baby baby. What do you think of the puppet?

Speaker 2 (55:34):
The puppet's okay, it's still creepy as hell, but you
know where we're baby not bad. I've seen a lot worse,
especially in Australian films. And the.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Yeah fly landed on the baby's head.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
It's in Australia if you don't have a couple of
flies and salute.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
And so now the First Nations person is cool with
the wolves because he said kill him like two scenes ago.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Mate, I don't know. This movie just changes so fast.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
The motivation of him seems.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
We may be the only survivors.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
He was he might be so he betrayed his own wills.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Maybe or maybe he's a rival tribe. Don't know. Have
to rewatch it to find out.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
There's a lot of Dad energy from this guy right now.
So they've got the leader of the werewolf all. He's
all hooked up, he's got his probes, on and he's
loving being on the television. He's loving being on the camera.
And the energy I get from that is dad at
a picnic. Someone's brought that big cam corner. You know,
they had to hold it on their shoulders. Yeah, and

(56:49):
he's mugging for the camera, like I could just imagine
your dad going, am I own camera and then doing
a bunch of funny faces.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Oh no, my dad would do anything to get away
from being on.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Really, Yes, that's interesting new Blood.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
He's still doing it.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
He's just mugging for that camera. I love it. He's
very cute. So the first time I think I've tried
to tell this story like three times before, he kept
getting distracted by this movie. So the first time I
rewatched this, actually sorry, I have to finish the Men
in Black story, don't. Yes, So we're watching it on

(57:34):
streaming and the dude falls to be like commit suicide,
and I was like, what the hell is this? Like
I always thought he just sort of disintegrated. And so
you know a lot of VHS copies of films heavily edited,
heavily censored, and they're just not very good representations of

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what the original film was. And so when TVD started
becoming there, come out, We've got We've got the movies
in their entirety.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
We've got a little bit of a flash there. Sorry.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Yeah, so better film quality, and you know you had
like audio cut like what we're recording now, an audio commentary,
and all those sort of special features and stuff. Eventually
you gets a blu ray and four K, which means
the resolution gets higher and higher, which means the picture
gets better and better. So all these people who are

(58:34):
hoarding VHS tapes and there's a whole community out there,
I'm not going to yucky yum. I just don't understand
the point of it.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
No, why would you go for something that's of much
lower quality.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
I don't hate a lot of the effects in this.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
I mean they're definitely using what they've got to agree,
probably their best advantage. That looks like a best Now.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
You know the thing about the original movies, the original
Howling film, it actually won for a war, It won
many awards for its effects. You know, the Howling too,
which this director filmed, is highly regarded as a terrible
fucking movie, and the werewolf effects are really horrible. So

(59:27):
I think you know when he wanted to make this movie.
You know, there was this concerted effort to try and
make his were wolves look better the second time round,
like almost a hey, look I have money now and
I want to make these things look a lot better
than they were before. Yep, you know, And look, I

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would argue, I don't know how much better this looks
as far as werewolves go, because for me, I think
the gold standard of were wolves is still a film
called Dog Soldiers and I think I've seen that one.
It's a UK film. It's got some per tree in

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it and it's about a bunch of UK soldiers they
go into the bush yep to do some training and
ineverently stuck being attacked by a family of werewolves. And
they have some really cool werewolf like costumes in that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
And here's the MARSUPI your part. Tasmanian Wolf was not
a thing, but it was a name for the Sila
see very very shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
There's a short lived name before they switched it to
Tasmanian tiger because of the stripes, yes, but because thilar scenes.
So there's a thing that is called convergent evolution. Convergent evolution,
and that is where you have animals that well, look similar.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
There's there a archival footage of ben Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
The very last footage of a Thilo scene. If you're
watching at home, it's very sad. I don't like it.
I don't like to watch it. The interesting thing about
the Thilas scene, of course, it looks like a dog.
It's not a dog. It's not related to it's not
it's not a canine at all. They have this crazy

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extended jaw.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
It's a very long faced.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
They were of course hunted. There was bounties put on
them by farmers. You know. There was also what we're
seeing in Tasmania now with the Tasmanian devil population, these
facial tumors. It is believed they suffered from facial tumors
as well and a mange as well. You know, so

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that a lot of people who are you know, experts
on the subject have also postulated, you know, they've postulated
that while of course, you know, human hunting is a
massive contributing cause to the extinction of the Thilo scene.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Another photo in the background there of Thilo scene. Again
it's been hunted.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
The other problem, there were problems with the scene population regardless.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Yeah, it was an island nation eventually they were going
to breathe themselves into nothingness. They didn't have the population necessary,
especially by the early nineteen hundreds, in order to refill
the population, let's put it that way, not without significant
inbreeding and mutational issues.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
People to this day say that they still see thilo scenes.
Where yet to see one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
We didn't see anything like evidence for one.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
However, there is a company that is You may have
seen a viral story earlier on in this year or
last year about the de extinction of the dire wolf. Yes,
now that same company is also working on the resurrection
of the mammoth. They're also working on the resurrection and

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the Thylocene. Could we see thylocenes brought back in the future.
I think that you are more likely to see a
thilo scene in the next twenty to thirty years then
you would be to see a dinosaur. I'll put it
to you that way. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Well, there's a lot more DNA floating around of a
thyloscene than there is of a dinosaur.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
We still have Thilocene embryos.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Yes, and we have the skins and the pelts and
the bones and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
So same with Willie mammoths. I don't know if we've
got saber tooth tigers though, yef, we.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
Still have mummified examples of them. That's how we know
what their patterns and their markings were like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
So we're adding in another element here. Apparently the Pope
the Vatican asked the Australian and American government to keep
the distance of wear Wolf's sacred.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
I think I know why those uniforms for that charging
in section were so weird. Obviously it's because every nation
just put one bit of their uniform into that group
and they made a big uniform out of it. Probably
that's the un uniform.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
So this is where the Americans are taking out.

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
Of Sydney Harbor Bridge. Those houses underneath are still there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
That's part of the Rocks, as in saying recently happened
with the properties at the Rocks where they've been forcing
the evictions out for the.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Yes, but they're always doing that. They've been doing that
since the ninety Every now and then they do one
more street, and then one more street and then one
more street.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Well eventually they won't be there or just be high
rise apartment buildings.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
Yeah. Well, the funny thing is that the Rocks were
housing commit because no one wanted to buy there. And
now the Sydney Harbor Bridge is complete. Now everyone's got
what they want. Suddenly a lunar park in the background.
Suddenly everybody wants to live next to the Sydney Harbor Bridge.
Personally as someone who spent as someone who spent a

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night at a youth hostel literally next to the bridge.
It is noisy at all hours of the night. Is
a horrible place to live. Why would anyone want to
live there? I understand the people in the rocks wanting
to live there because they've probably lived there their entire lives.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
I think you restore those places and you make it
heritage listed.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Well, where we were just there underneath the bridge, the
houses that were on the right side of the screen,
just off the right side of the screen. I've actually
been down into the basement of the digs there. There's
a lot of sandstone, there's a lot of artifacts that
have been found from the early days of Australia's settlement,
just because that's where we landed. They a lot of

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them got stirred because of the Sydney Harbor Bridge is building,
but a lot of it's still there as long as
those houses are still standing, those sites still protected.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Sorry, the leader of the Australian wereworfs is called Thilo.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Oh god, very original thoughts there. That's why they're silo scenes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
But yeah, there's the overarching theme of this film. And
then I think this is why it takes a little
bit of a turn here is you have this sociologist
who's like, I want to preserve this species, and the
Russian werewolf here in this scene is like, look, I've
come across from Russia. My tribe has been hunted into extinction.

(01:06:47):
I've come across here with the intention of joining with
the Australian werewolves, and that there are werewolf communities in
China and Africa.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Yeap.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
You know. The director, I believe was then and still
is a big proponent of allow people to live how
they should want. I think while this movie, in my opinion,
doesn't really do a very good like it's not a

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very well made movie or well written movie. Well, look,
it looks better than a lot of other films. I
think the problem is something that happened a lot in
the eighties, which was over complicating scripts. Yeah, I'm sorry

(01:07:41):
that little monkey jumping around there hasards deck, hanging out
and just very distracting.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Oh, I was just thinking, like Thylo there had his
gown tied up at the front, because the next shot
was him turning away from the camera and bending.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Down, so you can't say he's butt.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
And there was clearly some shots they did not want
to put on film.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
So yeah, like, I think this movie suffers from the
problem a lot of eighty movie eighties movie suffered from,
which was over complicating your script.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Yeah, there's a reason Tits and US movies actually did really,
really well. She didn't have to think about that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Oh that's a beautiful shot at the classic Sydney harbor
from the eighties, a police vehicle. I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
I don't think so. If you can hear it on
the soundtrack, Joker has joined the conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Yeah, so, I don't know if we did. We talked
about this a little bit, but that recently, you know,
about six weeks ago now, yeah, nearly sadly we had
to put Talia down. So Joker has become super vocal,
which we don't know whether it's I'm lonely and want

(01:08:57):
more attention or I'm the king of the castle.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
So I'm going to proclaim my territory.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
But he has become very very lousy lousy. He's not lousy,
he's lovely loud.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Recently, I'm not actually sure where this mine is other
than in the Blue Mountains. I would be very surprised
if it was Wittenom. But sorry, Bury girl.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
But you know that's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
We have another First Nations actor. I think there's only
three in this entire movie. Sorry, I still don't. I
don't like the look at that that puppet.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
It's a bit fugly.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
It's definitely fugly about American school of shooting things.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Well, I want I have a few questions right looking
at those rifles. All right, so ten people just fired
at that kangaroo, right, and somehow it's still alive.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
Yeah, just look the shot was they pushed the kangaroo over.
But in the context of the story that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Got shot, that kangaroo got shot point blank with a
shotgun and ten other guns.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Yes, you'd think it'd be nothing but mince meat.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
But no. Yeah. So you know, eighties movie suffered from
over complicated scripts, and I think that is it was
in response to enthusiastic people being able to make films.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
I think we see you something similar today because you
do have this opportunity now to make a lot of
movies and things very democratized, and you know, to a
certain extent, it was democratized here as well. When I
say democratized, basically she gets cheaper and you're able to
you know, more people are able to move into the industry.
So you know, back in the day when I first

(01:11:04):
started in radio, you needed a radio station to be
able to do broadcast radio. Yep, right, you wanted your
voice out there. That's how you had to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
You needed a license for broadcasts.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
And all that stuff, big tower, you know, support stuff,
all that sort of stuff. Now I can do pretty
much the exact same thing that I could do when
I was in the radio with a you know, an
investment of what one thousand dollars because it's all cheaper
since we did our initial bio.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Yeah, that's true. The microphones that we're using today around
fifty one and eighty. Yeah, the microphones that we're using
right now, and these are our little backup microphones and
our field microphones.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
So yeah, when we're recording the podcast, sometimes we've lost
entire tracks off the board. It is a pain in
the ass. Sometimes you can't get that energy back up
if you have to repeat yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
There was one time we had to do it three times.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
Yeah, that was terrible. And so what we do now
is we've got these two little microphones that connect to
our collars and that's the backup. So we haven't had
to use that yet, but that's exactly what we're using.
The sit here, watch watch a movie, yeah, you know,
and to do the commentary. So yeah, I think this

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movie suffers from what a lot of eighties movie suffered from.
There were low budget horror films, which was you know,
over complicating the township there is i'd say wolf it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Does from this angle. From the other angle earlier it
was flow.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
That's a nice say. That's yeah, we're doing Dutch tilts
for some reason.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
Now explain what a Dutch tilt is.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Okay, So Dutch tilts basically, you tilt the camera on
a forty five degree anger angle.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Which makes Matthew anger you You tilt.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
The camera on forty five degree angle. It was popularized
in the TV show Batman in nineteen sixty six starring
Adam West. You can still use it, but most people don't.
Ye and the reason is bad because it made things

(01:13:20):
appear very, very silly. Now in the context of this film,
which has been filmed, in my opinion, pretty standardly a
couple of little like style tricks, like lots of spinning
the camera around while facing one direction, the fish eye

(01:13:41):
lens that I talked about earlier, to give you that curvature.
Putting a Dutch tilt into this film at this point
is silly, right, because you have already established the visual
style of your movie, yep. So to introduce really strange

(01:14:01):
angles into a film at this point, it's a bit lurchy.
It doesn't make sense, right if I was to do that, Like,
if you were to do that and make a part
of the style, then you would do it at the start,
you know, you would have it in there more at
the start. We're already what in any.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Our way into this film, Aaron a Quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Yeah, Yeah. To introduce new angles with very little purpose
is just it's sort of counter to what you've already
set up.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
You know, angles and editing help you to create a
style of film. Yeah, right, Like you've watched nearly all
of James Gunn's movies, right, Yes, and you would say
the Guardians of the Galaxy and say Superman look very similar. Yes, right,
it's because he uses the same angles and the same
shots in both films. That's how you can sort of

(01:14:50):
recognize a director's visual style. It is through the angles
that they choose.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
It's how you can walking and go, oh, that's a
Michael Bay film. That's a Quentin Tarantino film.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
That's yeah, exactly right. You know, Quentin Tarantino watched a
lot of uh, and that's sort of saying you can
see the genesis of a director's style through the way
that they assemble their movies. So if you were to
watch a Quentin Tarantino film, you can see the angles
that he has used that were inspired by spaghetti westerns. Yep,

(01:15:26):
Japanese films. We have this. So this was our first
nation's character. Yes, he has called on the gods to
turn into a werewolf, and he is killing the hunters
who are hunting the werewolves. Yes, who we mentioned just
took you know, fired twelve guns to kill one.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
To half killer kangaroo to half KILLI kingaroo loves the
fish islands.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
That's not a fish eye, that's a yeah. So what
that actually, no, You're right, there is a bit of
a curve there. But see again, though, see how he's
now changed the So what he's done there is he's
changed the color grading right and made it more blue
to show you that this is the perspective of a
transformed were wolf. He hasn't done that until this point

(01:16:23):
in the film. But we've seen plenty of the were
wolves running around.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
And the color well, the last one that we saw
she was instead.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
Now he's going to know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
He's fine, he'll walk it off. It's a werewolf movie.
He'll superhere. I believe when she was running through Sydney
it was black and white, but I may be mistaken.
We'll have to go back and have a look later.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
But then see again, though she was black and white,
but he sees in hues of blue.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
He was also she was also at night, so be
howd to do blue?

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
But yeah, this is where this is where I think
that things start to get confused. You know. It's like
originally our character who was her Jaboah's stepfather, who is

(01:17:27):
a rapist, is now has transitioned into one of the
hero characters. Yep, which is strange.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
It is because he's done absolutely nothing to deserve it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
We've got some themes of you know, colonialism versus First
Nations people, we're protecting ugly puppet baby. We've got the
Russian character who was useless at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Yeah, she's I don't know what purpose she was fulfilling
to begin with.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Honestly, I don't either. Like I think it's just to
get the sociologists more involved in like, oh, there are
tribes of werewolfs, which is basically the director saying, look,
there are a lot of outsiders in the world, and
they usually persecute it against Yep, because look, the werewolfs
in this are a metaphor for the outside of the

(01:18:25):
socialist collective, the commune. The I think it's probably a
bit of a stretch to take it into the realm
of like LGBT peoples, yep, but it's definitely a commentary
on like this is how we treat people who like
to live off the land and Holly am I experience

(01:18:46):
people who set up communes end up doing terrible things
because it's usually run by a charismatic cult leader, which
this film establishes. Yep, they're charismatic cult leader is a rapist.
The main character who you are following you're meant to
really dig them.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Oh no, the beta is challenging the alpha, or at
least that's how the werewolf stories go nowadays.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Yeah, so it's and now, yeah, there's this conflict between
the two. So it's like, what is the director saying exactly,
because I feel he's trying to be political, but it's
so messy that I don't understand what the point is.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
Again, over complicating the plot means that you lose all
your symbolism.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred. You know, like at the moment,
I'm wearing my new Dungeon Crawler Carl T shirt and
Holly and I really love that book series. It's it
was saying that was introduced to us by a friend
of ours. And it's hard to ignore the corpos fuck

(01:20:03):
everything angle to that. You know that book. You know,
it's just someone the main character just has a like
I want to survive, Like, fuck these corporations, fuck out,
they're destroying our planet. Yeah, you will not break, you
break you all that sort of stuff, And it's very
clear as to what the And we've switched uniforms again.

Speaker 2 (01:20:26):
I know these guys were there like three scenes ago,
but now we're in an Australian area.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Australian why are they carrying World War two guns?

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Though I don't know. Again, I assume this is what
can I find at the costume shop.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Well, it's definitely what's at the costume shop because you
don't have the Rising Sun on an American stylear a military.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Hat baseball hap. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
The guy's body got real small, real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Any it's a zombie.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
It's a zone Beware.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Looking sufficiently grizzly.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
It was kind of cool.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
I mean it's an angle that I've never seen before.
Where will zombies?

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
So, just to recap this film for everyone, our main
character Jabborah, Yeah, I assume that's left her tribe because
she was sick of the tribe leader molesting her. Goes
to Sydney, immediately becomes an actress, meets active boyfriend, right,

(01:21:40):
her an active boyfriend, end up pregnant, right, so she
has baby, tribe retrieves jered Borah, right, takes her back
to tribe. Well, at the same time, Russian were will
frocks up. Sociologist. It's involved because he's like, hey, there's

(01:22:02):
evidence of a werewolf thing going on, which is you know,
I found these werewolves et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Then all of these desperate elements reconnect and we're being
chased by the American and Australian military yep, for reasons because.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
They think they're aliens. Really yep, that was that was
being placed like way back when.

Speaker 1 (01:22:30):
But it's just these two guys y And in the
middle of all this, we actually also had some hunters
who were killed, which is I suppose your environmental angle.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Now poaches feel more.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Yeah, well, well that's your environmental angle. And I think
our dude in the tent is becoming a werewolf too
because he got bit.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
Yeah. I feel like that's the problem, surrounded by a
lot of our chillery there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
So where do you fall on your werewolf origins? Do
you are you're a person that you have to make
a deal with a devil or be a witch, you know,
wrap yourself in the pelt and run into the forest
as just a wolf? Or are you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
My theory the skin one is more, that's a lunatic
who doesn't realize he's still a human wearing a wolf's pelt.
That's gross. And we've somehow walked out the back of boar.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
Or so I forgot that bit right. So so someone
went down to fish wig because those are fireworks.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
And setting off a fire in the bush, sugar, see
right there, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
So just quickly, one of our military men has met
his demise because a razor back, which is colloquially what
we call a feral pig, get a ferral ball busted
in and instead of like, I don't know, slightly moving
out of the way, he decided to shoot it with
a bazooka at close range.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
I mean, and then blew himself at his feet. There
was a grenade. There was a whole lot of other
things he could have done, stabbing in the over the arrow, so.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
That that cancels out one of our military people who
was chasing the werewolf too, because.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
There was a dude just outside the tent and I
don't think he would have survived that one.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Dear God, I remember this this movie going off the
rails at about that midpoint. The first time I introduced
someone to it was our friend Ryan, and he came over.
I think you were working that night and he came
over and he was like, what do you want to watch?
And I I don't really care, what do you feel like?

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And It's like, do you have a bad B movie?
Because when Ryan comes around and the guys come around,
we will usually watch a Bee movie and make fun
of it. And I was like, well, you've just become
an Australian citizen, this formerly American. Let's sit down and
watch this. Yeah, you know, I put this on for it.
And then it was really about this time when we
got really really fucking confused and and all these really

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strange desperate elements start, just like it's like the writer
director just introduced a ship just to fuck it off
in the strangest way.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
You know what would be cool if this happened? What
are you going to do with it?

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
I don't know. So our Russian were wolf ye right,
has fallen in love with the sociologists yep.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
And now they built a homestead and invited some knockoff
crocodile dundee over.

Speaker 1 (01:25:41):
Yeah, that's our sociologist. By the way, he has now
gone full bush yep, right, the Russian's pregnant. I don't
know what happened to the to Theo, the original leader
of the pack, he.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Found himself into was possibly was that what it was
meant to be? Maybe a look and the kids, got
straps on his back because.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
You've got to make sure that he's got the little
file of scene straps. Now you would sit here and
you would go, well, now the movie's over.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
I'm assuming there's another Like.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
There are more to this movie. There is still more
to go. So yeah, like they've gone bush. They're just
like you know these type like obviously these these two couples,
you got sociologists and Russian were wafare together and you've

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got actor and Jebrow and now.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Together Branda there's the Aussi salute.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
And so yeah, they've been out in the bush and
then they're like, hey, actually we think we might be
able to reintegrate with societ. You kind of should feel
like the movie is over at this point, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Like that was just got free. You've got your kids,
You're good. No one wants to live in society, even
the only people who want to live in society are
the people who are rich and therefore can afford to
tell you what society is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
Seeing that river running down there just very much reminds
me of before I grew up. So one thing that
I do miss about Truman is just the beautiful waterways
and the lovely walking tracks.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
Yeah, all right, so which pair are going?

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
That's the young couple.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
Gabbrow or Olga.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
Olger and sociologists are saying, okay, so right, they're going
to stay in their cabin and actor man are going
to back to Sydney.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
What looks to me on what looks to be one
of the hottest Australian summer days. It looks warm, And
then they turn around and there's a human corpse that

(01:28:20):
actually looks like a really nice place to live, except
for the corrugated iron hut. But I could replace that
a long time before I had to look at anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
I will give it this well, I mean that's in
close proximity to Blangolo, isn't it. No, I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
It depends on which part of the Blue Mountains they
shot on. Let's have a look see what we can
find out.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
See now we're like that shit is aging up real quick. Yeah,
so kid's in like two by now, so yeah, like
Olga and and Socio just a raising their little werewolf kid.
It just keeps jumping, It just keeps jumping and jumping

(01:29:09):
and jumping. Oh kids are a young woman.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Now, definitely, I mean maybe they're doing the whole it's
a were wolf, so she hits a peak really early
and then just stays.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
The next sport was that a fort.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
No idea.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
That was in the eighties design of Australian cars, So
there was sort of like handled boxes Citron.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
It was a Citron BX.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
Citron doesn't exist anymore, do they. Sorry, we've just got
completely sidetracked. We're just talking a car that just rocked
up in the scene. Think is entertaining in the slightest
sociologist doctor friend has just rocked up again. And Holly,

(01:30:10):
you were not going on a deep dive looking up
cittering pars.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
That's not what I'm doing. I'm finding out where they
were shooting for the mountain scenes.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
I'd have to be the Blue Mountains, being in close
proximity to Sydney, wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
The Blue Mountains is very big. I'm seeing if there's
any any closes that we can get.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
I really don't think you're going to find any filming location.
It's a very old movie that is not very well
documented either. I'm actually just watching Holly do her research
in real time. She uses AI.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
No, she doesn't am. It's definitely a good. Actually, it's
better than it used to be.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
You know, there's just the first mention of of liking throes.

Speaker 2 (01:31:01):
I don't think we've seen Barry Humphreys yet.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
Oh so it's okay though. So the Pope has just
declared an amnesty and the President endorsed the amnesty for
a werewolf, so were wolves can come out of hiding.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
Now, okay, that's nice of them, that's yeah, that's definitely
something nice.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
See what I mean about these really big themes, just.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
This random idea that they eventually come back to. Hello again,
mister Joker, Hello again, mister Joker.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
What have we got?

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
I don't even know what's going on here?

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
Saw the Vatican was going on?

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
Holly looked down at the cat. She forgot she was
recording a.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Podcast, researching something else, and jokers started talking.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
Oh yeah, So basically I'm assuming at this point, right,
so Jabura has become a civilized actor actor, right, active
boyfriend has grown a mustache and become a direct.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
So that is him, that is him, and that's her,
that is her.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
Okay, and they're not happy because, you know, they left
their commune, they left the natural world yep, to be
a part of civilization, right yep. And they're miserable and
it's like she's become famous. And now they're intercutting more

(01:32:46):
of that footage that someone went back in time to
grab from nineteen oh five, and they're.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
Lecturing on it in San Andros, which is.

Speaker 1 (01:32:53):
In the US, which is absolutely that is absolutely an
Australian university.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
And they're all wearing in shirts, which makes me think
that this is supposed to be a prison lecture.

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
I mean, in Australia, we have uniforms for the schools, right,
and so I'm assuming that the director, who mostly grew
up or lived in Australia, assumes that all schools have uniforms.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
I mean just have one colored shirt and all the
girls seem to have another color shirt, but they're all
the same shirts.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Yeah, so I'm guessing that, yeah, he's put the inflection. Sorry,
then he's put the visual style of Australian school uniforms
onto an American university setting.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
But it's university. And there's no uniforms at university in
Australia either, not unless you're on sports team. So again,
even the teacher is wearing the same color shirt. So
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
Oh, this is the grown up Sun. By the way,
this is you remember your little marsupial jelly bean. Yeah,
that's that's him.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
The lecture.

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
No, no, the lecturers, the sociologist.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
Okay, my god, holy follow the movie. I can't anymore. Man,
I'm kind of on the edge of giving up. The
story should have finished half an hour ago.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
Funnily enough, it really should have like it should like
there's this natural conclusion point to it, and I think
they just want to rush through and get all this
other stuff in. And it's very it's very similar to
Jurassic World. No, sorry, Jurassic Part two. We rewatched that
the other day, the Lost World, and there's that whole

(01:34:36):
tact on the scene with the dinosaur the t rex
running through San Diego because Steven Spielberg just wanted to
have a t rex running through San Diego, so they
just put that scene in.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
Right. It seems like it's the same with this, where
the directors like, I have all these heady themes and
I want to make sure that I nail them really
really quickly, and so has just kept like in a
dead sprint in these last twenty minutes. Has tried to
get all of their shit crammed in. Yep right. For

(01:35:10):
some reason, the sociologist is back lecturing again. We don't
know why he left the bush or left his kid.
But they've returned to civilization and they've.

Speaker 2 (01:35:19):
Gone really upper class. By the look at that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:22):
You know, Jaborah and her hubby, we're all happy and
with their family, and then they went to civilization. They're
miserable as well. Yep right, these people have entered back
in the civilization and they're like the Academy of what. Yeah,
it's Arry Humphreys, Verry Humphreys Freeze ten seconds coming.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
Oh but he got like major credits, Like I was
expecting Dame Edna to be in a lot more than this.

Speaker 1 (01:35:55):
Yeah, so this is a meant to be an award.
So I think it said the Lazy.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
Laser and Sciences Awards or.

Speaker 1 (01:36:02):
Something like that. Yeah, I'm not quite sure what the
go is with the Oscar.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
Is the prize award because that's all they could find.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
I'm guessing yeah, a little fakey oscar. Well, they would
have been all the production shots, right, so while they
were filming, they would have been like those would be
her head shots that her agent would have had, and
then all those black and white photos would have been
while they were filming. And yeah, so it's like, hey,

(01:36:37):
when the werewolf nuns have a TV in the cave,
that's who they were.

Speaker 2 (01:36:45):
Well, that's astro mixed world. Also, I'd like to point
out that her hairstyle still hasn't changed though by the
look of everyone else in the background though, So they're
they're hooked up in they're twirled up like decoration in
the back of the head, but it's all still piled
to the side because side ponytails are still in.

Speaker 1 (01:37:06):
Now, going back to the rules that were established by this,
a bunch of flashing lights will transform you, Well, we'll
force you back into your were we'll form Yeah, how
did they not realize that that's actually I like that shot.
I like the nose, the werewolf's nose makeup. I actually
don't hate any of that. I'm sort of curious how

(01:37:29):
they didn't expect this was going to happen though.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
Yeah, it's like it's kind of an obvious problem flashing lights. Okay,
what's a flashing light that actors have to deal with
a lot photographers? Why is Barry Humphrey screaming into a camera,
I cannot tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
And now like this doctor is laughing or crying, he's laughing.
I think no, I think it was meant to be sad.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
He was smiling, So I'm not sure. And that was
a really weird way to end the movie. Yes, director
saying cut cut.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
Yeah. So Professor Harry Beckmeier was Barry Otto, Emma Janainsley
was Jarrah Yarrow as Carol Skinner. Filo was Max Fairchild,
Max Fairchild, look him up. I'm positive we've seen him
in things.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
Oh quite possibly.

Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
I'm pretty sure he was in a lot of children's television.
Was Max Fairchild? That was the name I was trying
to find. Yeah, so if you watch that with us,
I'm sorry that you've watched a very confusing film. If
you haven't watched it, I hope this has at least

(01:38:48):
been someone entertaining as we sort of jab it on
a little bit. Hopefully we get better at this as
we go along, because as I think we covered some
stuff though.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
We did a little bit, I'm sure that won't be
too upset about what we're giving him.

Speaker 1 (01:39:03):
So Max, Max Fletcher there, Max for Fairchild, very fair Child,
A lot of stuff, right, oh, very much so look
at me scroll anything that stands out to you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:13):
Oh, let's have a look seat. Nine episodes on Division four,
which was in the seventies.

Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
Well, I wasn't born then. I don't think you've watched
a soap operas in the seventies. So that was a
weird one that you picked.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
Mad Dog Morgan, which is prisoner. That was just because
he was in a lot of episodes. It's white picked
it Mad Max as Beno.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
I there we go. Yeah, I figured he was in
Mad Max somewhere, The road.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Warrior as a broken victim. So the road Warrior being
the second Mad Max.

Speaker 1 (01:39:43):
First one, Well, the road Warrior is a wee part
of the second one that's overdubbed for American release.

Speaker 2 (01:39:51):
I think, yeah, so that's why it's called the road
Warrior in this rather than Mad Max Road Warrior. What
else has he been in? Hewling three? Obviously Mission Impossible
TV show way back when, and then he's just really
just been doing bit parts here and there. Honestly, what's

(01:40:11):
his most recent was twenty eighteen, but he apparently has
an upcoming which is called Philippe Moore's The Growling. Who
knows how long that's been sitting there.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
Has it actually got a release?

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
It does not, so it's probably one of those development
hells that someone's popped into.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
Or he never had the money to fund it. I
mean I very much doubt he had the money to
fund it. Or maybe it's a documentary of his time
working on The Howling, which would have surprised me. So
Southern Cross Hotel was a location there the State Wines,
the State Wines would be that would have been the financier. Yeah,

(01:40:54):
that's that's where you mage to hide the money. Well,
that's the end of this a very very strange film,
which ends with Adios amigos, which is goodbye friends in Spanish. Uh,
I don't really have.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
Much to say about that, or you have a lot
to say about it and don't know where to start.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
So I will, well, we'll wrap this up as we've
been going for about now here.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
But and now we're at an hour and a half
and a half.

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
So I think it's a it's an interesting example of
Australian osplitation, where you take an American idea or concept
and you try and you know, painted in osplitation colors.
I think in some ways they do some interesting stuff
like I think the you know, the birth scene of

(01:41:48):
the marsupial werewell is as accurate as you could get
that scene.

Speaker 2 (01:41:52):
Which is weird for the movie that it's in.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
I think otherwise it's a chaotic, massive nonsense.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
Absolutely some good makeup shots and some truly terrifying puppetry
thrown in.

Speaker 1 (01:42:05):
Well, I think they tried. I think there's a lot
of effort there. There's something that could actually be salvaged
out of this. Yeah, I think absolutely, I think you could.
I think you could recut it. I think you could
do I think you could trim it down. I could

(01:42:26):
see someone doing a modern version of this and actually
getting away with it. I think there are some interesting
stuff to be gleaned from it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
Well, it's not all that riskay, honestly, so you could
probably do a lot more with it. Unfortunately, the tax
break that made a lot of these movies possible has
not been a thing in forty years.

Speaker 1 (01:42:44):
But genre entertainment in Australia is becoming a big thing
again because now Netflix, Amazon Prime, if they're operating in Australia,
they have to have Australian content.

Speaker 2 (01:42:54):
You know, if we're going to remake this, you know
who needs to do it. There's crazy bustards who did.

Speaker 1 (01:43:02):
The talk about the Philipoop brothers.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
Yes, the crazy bastards.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
Yeah. Look, I think that there is definitely a room
there to take a look at it, but we certainly
won't be doing it anytime soon. Well, ladies and gentlemen,
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(01:43:27):
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