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Here everybody, and welcome to episode three three thirty seven
thirteen oh three thirteen of What Are Your Thoughts?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Today? Is Friday, June twenty sixth I.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Believe seven June twenty seventh.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
June twenty seventh, twenty twenty five. It is what about
Let me Guess seven seventeen eighteen seven eighteen PM, and
we're coming to life from Fresno, California. I have not
had a watch on, I know, in about a week,
and my wrist is very white compared to the rest
of my flabby arm. So I definitely feel a miss.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Do you want to tell our listeners the surgery you're
planning on getting.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Oh, I don't know what it's called, but it's a
real thing where they.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
They get rid of it.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yes, and they get rid of your bat wings, so
to say, or as Olivia says, your arms are very squishy.
Your arms are very squishy, and so a lot of
it is just it's loose skin from losing weight. And
you know, I can, I can it. So that's how
I know that you know, a lot of it is

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it's just hanging on because there was some weight loss
that happened. So yeah, not all of it is lost.
Not all of it's a fatty.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
What else is it?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Well, I mean it's loose skin and fat fatty tissue together,
so it's yeah, so I'm very self conscious. Okay, So
you know when you see and it's part twoarticularly women
because we store a lot of women tend to store
a lot of fat in their arms unfortunately. So I'm
starting to notice that, like up here, you'll see it

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kind of like what is it like a curve because
it's like a curve of fat and I'm like, oh my.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
It's you can't say it. You can't pass it off
as like I've been working out.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Nope, I'm starting to get these particular arms that I
see on other people with like a curve of fat right,
and it's like right here where the bicep is. It's
just like that little like extra curve. It's subtle, but
it's there. Real women have curves, and I in my mind,
I'm like, okay, I'm gonna start lifting weights, and it

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just never happens.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yeah, start off like how your mom did with.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Like the like the zero pound weight, and you know,
something's better than nothing. I think what it is is
that when you lift weights, it takes a lot of energy.
It takes a lot of like you're using a lot
of energy to lift weights repeatedly and repetitively, and so

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sometimes you just you don't want to use that energy
on that. You're like, okay, what else can I put
my energy? And scrolling on my phone doing nothing? So
but you know what, Yes, it changes hard. Change is hard,
And that's what I tell myself. It's hard to change.
So like if it's hard for me to change and

(04:34):
start exercising, imagine with other things that you know, people
want to change in life or shit change. But it's hard.
It takes a lot of discipline, motivation, consistency, and then
if you don't see the results that you want right away,
you're kind of like, yeah, you're like it takes too long.

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So human psychology, man, Yeah, bro, I forgot what her
what her Instagram name is or her user name or
what does it handle? But I was like, wow, if
I was brave and if I had the money, i'd

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probably get that.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
What do you think about that in general?

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Okay, so there's somebody that I follow on Instagram. I
won't put the name on blasts, but he has a
decent amount of followers. He's just like he's just this
think of like this young Mexican guy, somebody.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
That you're not going to say his name because it's
like a.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Personal Yeah, we have a personal relationship.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
No, his name is Erlyn on the daily and somehow
he yeah, he popped up on the algorithm. So I
was like, oh, okay, I'm gonna follow him because I like
that he's representing and he is just an unglamorous you know,
postings of his life with his girlfriend and their baby,

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and you know how he was or is a door
dash driver, and he's you know, pretty much working hard
to save up and provide for his family. And so
he also sets up I think gofundmes or maybe a

(06:24):
go like he asks a lot for donations. So people
in the comments are like.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
He's just asking because he's a regular dude.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Yeah, And his thing is that he's working hard, and
I'm doing that because.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
That's his Like, yeah, so our listeners don't see you're
doing the.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Quotes the air quotes.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
So his caption's like working extremely hard so I can
spend time with my family and or like waking up
at waking up early at eleven o'clock in the morning
and working hard and I'm not even.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Kidding, and are we about to start gate keeping? What
somebody should be waking up a hustler un wake up
at this time.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
So I was like, okay, like I appreciate the hustle.
You know, he's taking care of his family. He's putting
in his what five four, five, six hours door dashing,
like okay, But a lot of people are like, dude,
you know you're asking for donations, why don't you go
get like a regular like eight to five or Yeah.

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He's like like he'll just maybe like, oh, well some
of us need the help or like.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
So he doesn't really acknowledge.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Well, no, he does, but then he also like will
like what clap back, but like in a funny way.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Well, I just want to know what his reason for not.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
So his thing.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
I think part of it is that he wants to
phy physically be at home as much as possible with
his family. But the thing is is that he's asking
for donations. Yeah, and you know, okay, this is my
cash ap, this is my venmo yeh. And people are
like a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
It's like split.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
So me, at first, I was like, okay, like I'm
I'm rooting for him and his family, yeah, because I
get it, and like it seems like, you know, he's
trying to do the right thing. But then the other half,
oh and then a lot a lot of it too
was that he was there they were buying a house

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in Michigan, and so he was also asking for donations
to help pay off the house, which was like seventy
grand and so a lot of people contributed.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
But at the same time, people were like, why don't
you get a job, Like I'm.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Just here have some level of like if people are
just giving him money just right, just giving it to him,
want to they feel bad for them if they must
have some reason they're giving me the money.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
So but just because you brought up like the GoFundMe,
it just brought me to that because I was just like, huh,
like I get everybody needs help, should I need help?
But I would feel so weird maybe ever doing a
go fundme that.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
That might be the solution. Just anytime we're like in
a pickle, like let's say we need like like for
like something knocking, with something happens with their car, just
like set up a GoFundMe. That is so transmission. It's
weird when people ask like, well, why don't you just
save up like with your money you get from working,
and just don't acknowledge that just I need.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
The some people need help more than others. And so
he they ended up getting the house they ended up
which is great in Michigan, and they set it up
and everything, and then I think something happened and maybe
with like his cars, So then they had to say
it for a van, a use a used van, but

(10:07):
a van nonetheless, that was like obviously a few thousand dollars,
so I think he kind of asked for donations for that.
So then I was kind of like, okay, like you
can also work, Like I get that you want to
be with your family and you know who doesn't, but

(10:28):
like you.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Could also, So what does the wife mom do?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
So I think she does the same thing, but she's
not as much as him because stay Out fund.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Like she just she's a go funder so you.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Know, I don't know if she has a GoFundMe.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
I mean, I guess does content creator?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
They're content creators, but it's like they're also.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Regular people, but they in East La.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Their content is being the normal.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
There's just no normal, yes or dash.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Which that is a like niche community in itself, just
regular like what's that? What's the what's that? Family? The
the not the ross is the who? Who the McCollums,
like the mc brooms.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
You know about them?

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, just because they're they're happen to be famous enough,
but there aren't. Didn't they just start off as like regular?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I think so, So the only reason I know really
who they are is because I think Sloane, which I
haven't talked about him for a while, but Sloane has
brought them up, and then I saw something about them
saying like, oh, he cheated on her, but I guess
she had. He had been cheating on her kind of
like throughout a lot of their relationship anyways, but it

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was kind of like this big scandal sometime this year
and then I think she wrote a book about it too,
and yes, and so anyways, but a lot of people,
from what I've read, they're like, you know, you could
tell he was very toxic. What do you think about him?
What's his name?

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Austin?

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Austin.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
I feel like that's a red flag right there, and
what the hell McBroom?

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I feel like the last name is more of a
red flag.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, it sounds like a fake name. Hence what a
fake person, fake identity, a fake life.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
No, I think I honestly don't know really much about
him outside of their YouTube what clout or YouTube fame,
but I think they were, if not the first, one
of the first kind of crack that like family.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, the family, content creators, bloggers, whatever.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
I think a lot of people seen that and it
was like, oh, I have a family, I can yeah,
And not to say like you shouldn't do that, but
it's kind of just like, Okay, well you're I guess what.
You crack the code.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Too, You crack the code?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Do you think family exploitation?

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (12:56):
Or like.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Gypsy Rose, do you think she cracked literally somebody?

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:05):
So do you think someone like her?

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Do I think she should? I don't know if she should.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Do you think someone like her should be having kids?

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Doesn't she?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
She has one and she's I think doing IVF for
the next one. That's where like the uh in vitro fertilization. Yeah,
so I guess she has some sort of missing chromosome.
I'm not even kidding. She literally does what she's her words,
she has a missing chromosome.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yeah, And so.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
She's doing IVF because she doesn't want to pass down
that gene to her child.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
So you know what, at least the child will have
one of the genes or one of the qualities that
will be thoughtful, be caring, considerate of others.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
The other day, Oh, I forgot what your mom said
you weren't heroes over the weekend. She was like, oh,
cash me outside, how about that? Yes, but like joking around,
she's I think to Olivia, I said, I was like,
do you would you be okay with me being like
that and like bad baby, yeah and making millions from it.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
She said yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
I said, if that means that we're all going to
be financially set and she was like yeah. She's like,
we're not the mcmillion's. She's like, we're not like to say, like,
we're not like the Joneses, Like, yeah, why not if
we're gonna like be set? I said, really, you'd be
okay with me embarrassing our whole family.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Here's the thing, is embarrassing her entire family, because who
really knows a lot of people. I'm not saying who
knows bad Baby. I'm saying who knows her family? Brother, don't.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
I don't think anybody.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
I guess maybe locally she is wherever she's from, she
could be locally embarrassing her family, which would be hard
to your local instead of a national embarrassed, just a
local embarrassment.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Oh my god, that's hilarious.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
I guess if it was a thing like let's say,
you got I know that random cup the ice c
so I was about to walk and she hit it
right there real quick. No, if that's say, if if
that were if you became the quote unquote what bad

(15:29):
Baby of Fresno? Uh?

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Who is?

Speaker 3 (15:33):
That's a good question. There's a lot of and they
can come on W A Y T. But if if
somebody would say, if if a random person became the
bad baby of Fresno, if you were to somehow like
just move, I think you'd be okay, because think about it.

(15:54):
Do you think, like, let's say, if that were to
be us, we moved to pass the robo? Yeah, do
you think the people in past are going to be like, yeah,
we know you guys are from Fresno. You guy should
just stayed your ass in Fresno. Like, I don't think
they would know.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Definitely, those people from that restaurant definitely not no so.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
But morally though, like here's another quote, what.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Were we really moral? Though?

Speaker 3 (16:18):
I would like to think of in certain situations, like
ninety five percent situations, I would like to think, I'm
morally try to be morally and know what you're doing.
That's not that more. That's definitely not to be set
on air or even off air.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
It's that's I'm afraid that's something that you're gonna go to.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Your grave with chopping up, chopping up iguanas or what.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
No, I know you're not letting Annie outside.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Okay, there are zero moral and ethics involved in that.
That's funny.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Say anything about the grass on the floor.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
He did ask, he like, what what is that?

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Like?

Speaker 3 (17:00):
He says for Annie, and he was like, oh, yeah,
she doesn't. She doesn't care about that, but she kind of.
I mean she like fifty to fifty doesn't. I think
she's like curious that it's there. But I don't think
it's one of those things where she's like, my life's dependent.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
On the grass that's outside. Yeah, that is so Yeah,
I don't know. I mean I would. I try to
think of myself as.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Like morally upstanding.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yes, I know.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Obviously I'm not like see and I can what situations
are you morall blah blah blah blah. As I don't
think really anyone is one hundred percent morally and not
to say that anyone could, but that's like to be
one hundred percent morally and ethically like aligned. I feel
like that pretty much means you have to have like

(17:48):
not no flaws, but.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
I think it means doing the right thing. I try
to do the right thing as much as you can.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Okay, I'll give you Okay, so here's here's an example.
We had gotten or when I had gotten Little Caesars,
what was it last whatever day it was, and I
only had to order two pizzas, and they came out
in my mind what a morally righteous person would be like, hey,
you know, you gave me an extra pizza. I didn't
think to do that. That wasn't even my I mean,

(18:17):
I guess for a second, I was like, oh sh
I tell them. Then I'm like, okay, this is They're
not going to lose out on one pizza. But now
is that doing the right thing to do would be what, hey,
I didn't Hey man, I didn't order or hey woman,
hey girl, I didn't order this extra pizza. You know what,
you can keep it.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
I I guess the morally right thing to do would
be like, yeah, here, you know what, go ahead and
take this back.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
I did not order it, so or.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
It would be like, okay, I'm gonna take it and
I'm gonna give it to all the homeless people, or
I'm sorry, unhoused citizens outside and give it to them,
you glutting as fuck you.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
And see I thought the same things, and well, here's
the thing, I guess. I guess you could give it
to homeless person, But I didn't come across any from
the from the littlet just to them. I don't know,
I just find there's there's a lot of situations like
that where or I've seen a post on Reddit where
this person accidentally got someone else's like I don't know
if it was DoorDash or whatever, like whatever delivery. It

(19:17):
was like a bunch of toilet paper, paper towels, and water,
like a lot, like they were getting stocked up on that,
and they asked like, oh, what, like what should I
do with this? And my first head on, my first thought,
I'm thinking, like, okay, you can kind of go out
of your way to track down the original you can
contact door dash or contact whoever. But in reality, they're
just gonna be like, you know, I just keep it.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Like so they kept it.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, And that's what people were in the comments were
saying like, hey, you got lucky, Like hey, like.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
That is true. That stuff those are necessities.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yeah, And are you a morally corrupt person for keeping
that stuff or are you morally corrupt for not reporting
that Hey I didn't order this, I mean I don't
think so. I think it's an accident.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, yeah, wow, talk about Morley. You know what, I
I'll tell you that this is how you know, like.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Doing the right thing. I think is it's like a
gut feeling.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Because when I was walking into work on Wednesday, I
was on my way, making my way downtown. No actually,
so I saw a heavily pregnant woman in distress and
I could just tell on her face.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
They were getting out of their car.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I was getting out of my car and she was
with her partner, and I was like, oh, that woman
looks very uncomfortable. And yeah, that is a very harsh
word gluttonous, and it's p h uc.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Glutton.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Any anyways, so I was walk I was walking getting
out of my car, and then, like I said, the
other pregnant woman and her partner were getting out of
their car and she looked super uncomfortable. So I was like, oh, man, like,
poor lady.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
It sucks.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
She's probably not feeling too well. So I'm walking. Okay,
take three. So so I saw that she was very uncomfortable.
So I'm walking and then I see that her steps
are getting slower and slower. So I was like, oh crap,
I need to intervene, and so we make it almost

(21:29):
like the front of the main entrance. And I was
like hey, I said, are you okay? And she was like, oh,
my contractions are just getting stronger. And I was like
oh okay. I said, well, good luck with everything like
and I had to just keep walking no, So then
I was like I kept walking. I was like, shit,

(21:50):
I need to do something like I don't know what,
but I need to help her in some way.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
I hadn't clocked in.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
I was just barely walking in and I saw the
wheelchair and I said, you know what, this is literally
the least that I can do for you. Let me
grab you a wheelchair so that way you can be
pushed in. And something was like Maria, go get that wheelchair,
even though it's so minuscule, go get that chair. And

(22:15):
so and they went on their merry way and they're
like oh you know, and the middle name was Mariah,
and I was like wow. Some people would be like,
you know, yes, and not to say that, I'm like
this saint and getting a pregnant woman in a wheelchair
is absolutely nothing at all. But I was like, you

(22:38):
know what, that is the right thing to do. I
could have been like, oh no, I'm going to be
late to work, I need a you know, they can
figure it out on themselves. So I was like, you know,
the right thing is to help this person out, you know. Yeah,
but that's not really like I didn't really do anything special.
All I'm trying to say is that do okay? So

(23:07):
when you do the right thing, you know, I think
that's part of being Yes, morally, yeah, so nice if
any of us had any questions on what it meant. Now,
speaking of morals, what do you think is gonna happen

(23:27):
with P Diddy? Do you think he's gonna face any
prison time? Or do you think I think he's either
gonna walk or he walked or run? Would you walk, run,
or jog to your prison cell?

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Likely?

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Hold on? I think maybe if you're a non violent offender,
which he kind.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Of he's both.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
But like, let's say, if you're not a murder or
like a robber, I don't know, yes, then you might
be able to walk. You won't be shackled to your ankles.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
How far do you think you can run with the
shackles on? You know what we should try that we
should somebody commit a crime, have them put the shackles
on you and be like, Hey, somebody, I want to
see how far I can run for this podcast?

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Or do? What do you think?

Speaker 1 (24:28):
What do you think is gonna happen with him?

Speaker 3 (24:31):
That's a good question. I mean, if he already got
did he get any of the charges dropped? I think
he got a few and dropped right.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Maybe, But I know he has been behind bars for
like a year, already in jail waiting. So I told
your dad, I said, because there's already been like a
string of black celebrities in there, I don't think they
like they're gonna do everything they can to not put

(24:58):
another rich it's interesting celebrity in there, you know what
I mean? Because then it might start to look as
being like a racial thing because what's his name? Bill
Cosby was already in there? Are Kelly's in there? Troy Lanes, Okay,
Troy Bolton?

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Is that the one from my school musical?

Speaker 2 (25:19):
He's already in there? And then who else? Oh Cilento?
Is it silent? Or why does he say cilento?

Speaker 3 (25:37):
He says? I think he says silent.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
I'm pretty sure because it sounds like Ceilanto.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
So launch.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
He's either And then aren't we missing? Aren't we missing?

Speaker 2 (25:53):
One? Too, So you know what I mean, it's it's
kind of sets and not in my eyes, it in
other people's eyes, like, hey, but there's like there's conspiracy
going on.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
The only black celebrities, black celebrity men.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
When regular black men go to jail, it's not conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
No, that is too, and it's a conspiracy that is true.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Actually, okay, that well, they still send them to jail.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Though, Right, but do you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
I get what you're saying, but I don't think I
get I get what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Don't.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yeah, I would say I think in this instance it's
not I don't think it's maybe I'm I don't think.
I don't honestly don't think they're going to jail for
a conspiracy. I think they're genuinely like they needed to
be there, not because they need it, but I think
they're genuinely committing those crimes.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
And wait, the non celebs or the celebrity the celebrities,
celebrity celebrities are genuinely committing those crimes, and I mean
they're they're getting caught now.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
I mean, there could be a reason as to why
specifically they're going to jail instead of anyone else involved,
because I've heard arguments and I guess maybe in that
aspect of what you can make the argument since they
are black, it's like, well, screw it, We'll just send
a Joe anyway. It could be something like that. But
that is so messed and well, that's really how like

(27:18):
society or law enforcement away.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
I know, it's not a surprise. It's just very much
like damn, that's that's jacked up. Yeah, speaking of race,
you know how many not how many too? In the
past three days full on like Nazi with the swastika
tatted on his hand?

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Had I gone into the that I took care of?

Speaker 2 (27:41):
And then another one like a hardcore what is it
like Patriot with like the seventeen seventy eight m like
freedom tatted on his own?

Speaker 3 (27:52):
So here's here's here's a question. Are you talking about
Morley corrupt? Uh?

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Isn't it in any healthcare's job any healthcare workers job
description to provide care for everybody?

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I do?

Speaker 3 (28:05):
I'm not okay, am I gonna is this is what
you think I was gonna call you out? No, Like, okay,
let's say you come across. It doesn't really have to
be a white person, give me anyone. But let's say
you come across man or a woman who is facing
a life or death situation and they come to the
emergency room, you're performing caring them and you notice that

(28:26):
they have I hate Mexicans tattooed on their chest. Now,
as a healthcare worker, are you on the wrong side
of things for not performing care for them? I know
you're supposed to regardless if it says I hate Mariah
patch Asisnarrows.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Born on them, who thinks that she's doing the morally
right thing by getting a wheelchair for pregnant Yes, actually,
can you delete that whole conversation from the podcast?

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Is that it's actually dumb what I said.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
It's really not what it is that I think you
wanted to in the middle of the show.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
That's what was going on.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah, a broken class that you decided not to even
bring up. And that's not the point that that's not
even really My My question is, though, is a health
any healthcare worker, are they morally like wrong for not
not one perform care on someone like that.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
That's a toughie because.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
And what if, like after you get done performing care
like they spit on you and like you should let
me die, you fucking bitch.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, that's a tough one.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
And you're you're who's your your supervisors?

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Like, well, who's your superior?

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Yeah, you're superior.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
That's a tough one because.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
We Yeah, I guess it would be what by nursing standards,
by healthcare standards, morally and ethically wrong to not care
or treat somebody who.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Is what is said?

Speaker 3 (30:00):
What's the line is there?

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Well, apparently in healthcare there is.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
What if the person you're working on is like after,
I'm after I make a floor recover, making my mission
to kill you?

Speaker 2 (30:15):
That just whatts so extreme? Okay, terrifying.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
That though. Imagine that. Imagine you're performing care someone and
they're like, no, I just I'm sorry, but I'm really
going it like cause harm to you in your love.

(30:47):
I guess you would call the cops, right, I guess
you would have to call a reporter.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
You have to, dum dude.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
What is it an I R or an I J
and incident report or no, an I j's immediate jeopardy,
Oh my god? Or what is it called at your job,
like an SEC something? You know what? So stupid and

(31:15):
nursing yeah, we have to take care of those who
hate us. And you know what, as I was speaking
to that man with a big old freaking swatstika on
his right hand, huge swatstika, he do.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
You think that's.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
And see the thing with him is that he was
very agitated and patient. He was talking, he was talking
to his partner like crap, and he was still ambulatory.
So with him, like I couldn't really you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Like wheelchair bounder couldn't move.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yes, because as soon as because I saw him him
in a wheelchair the whole time, and as soon as
I saw him get up from that wheelchair, I go,
oh you could walk. That's what I say, said, you
can walk. So it was like, oh, hell no, I've
got a you know, even though this man's like in
his sixties, he still can do some sort.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Of wouldn't that kind of like go against everything he
believes in by allowing a Karen?

Speaker 1 (32:23):
So that's my exact thoughts.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
I'm like, this doesn't make any sense, okay, So like
obviously you I mean, maybe he's reformed. Maybe he's a
reformed white nationalist or an Aryan brother or whatever it's called.
Former skinhead. I have no idea. So maybe, yes, maybe
he's reformed, so maybe he doesn't have those same beliefs anymore.

(32:48):
I have no idea, but that's exactly what my thought was.
I was like, okay, so hold on, So this man
has that tatted This was a belief of his at
one point or still is. But now he's here in
the hospital seeking help from seeking care from minorities, and

(33:10):
that doesn't make any sense. So and I don't I
don't get it.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
It's where mindset this is.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
This is where I genuinely wish, not that we can
push the envelope, but really like, look at the different
paths we can go down, because they want us to
be And I guess what the care that a person
needs outweighs our sensitivity to their beliefs. But they want
us to be culturally and what I guess like just

(33:41):
sensitive overall, sensitive to their beliefs. Right, that would be
his belief that he's that whites are superior race. Yeah,
so wouldn't it be wouldn't like the most sensitive we
can be to that race is by not performing care
in him at all, because isn't that disrespectful to him?
Him that a minority is even like coming in contact

(34:03):
with him, like.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
I mean with their belief are right, yeah, honestly?

Speaker 3 (34:10):
And I think you should have maybe asked me like, hey,
like I just happen to notice the tattoo on your hand,
Like is it disrespectful for me to perform Karen on
you right now?

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Hm?

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Like you should have been like, I can get you
a white uh PCT if you'd feel more comfortable. You
should have a.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
White PCT and a white nurse and a.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
White provider and a white lobby and the white receptionist.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
And white registration.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
There's none, actually they're only Latina or whatever.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Being a like a white nationalist, well, being a white
nationalist in Fresno seems kind of like contradictory, not contradictory,
but it seems a little hard because it seems.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah, you're surrounded by nothing. And the thing is too,
is that his partner. I mean, she could have been
a white woman, but she's or maybe she was mixed
because she didn't seem full white, but she also didn't
seem like full hispanic or a lattin out whatever. She
seemed kind of she could go either way. So I

(35:11):
wasn't too sure with that either. I was like, huh,
so it was very I don't know, but I was
just like, yeah, the fact that he is receiving help
from minorities, like, it's just a contradiction, so.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Like, yeah, and you should hey, what is what do
I do? I'm being I'm being insensitive to his beliefs
by performing Karen, do we just let him rot? Do
we let him get sepsis?

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Sepsis? And oh no, no, no no, I was just
gonna say.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
And then the other one who was very much like
one of like he reminded me of someone who would
be like one of those January sixth patriots. He was
very respectful, very easy to talk to, a pleasant person
to work with. He was very appreciative. But I was

(36:07):
just like, damn, like, this is another like hardcore like
maybe a level below the Swatstika guy, you know. But
he was a very nice person. But I was just
like huh, you know. And he seemed like he would
have been like an anti vaxxer type person too, you know.

(36:31):
But I was just like, very very peculiar. So I
guess when you when you really need help, you don't
care who that person is, right, So then all of
it's just a farce.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Then?

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Is it just a far I say it's I say
it's convenient, a convenient belief system, where like convenient outrage.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
What's the convenient Like the.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Reason why maybe and the right word probably isn't convenient.
But the reason why I choose the word convenient because
they choose to only believe that when it benefits them,
or they choose to only believe it when like it
lines up, like when when everything is going well, when
everything is going in reality, we know that's not the

(37:17):
way life goes. So it's like if you truly believe,
it's like believing in God, right, a person that truly
believes in God is going to believe in God, whether
real the life is going good or whether like, yeah,
the reason why I call it convenient, like a convenient
believe system for the white nationalist or whatever, because if
they truly believe in that, they'd be like, fuck, no,

(37:38):
I don't want you to perform, Cara, you're fucking Mexican.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Like, don't don't test me, don't interact with and yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
Not that it would be better if they did that,
but it's almost like, again, the right word isn't respect,
but it's almost like, okay, like at least you're like,
how do I say, at least you're just a normal asshole.
You're not like a like a fifty to fifty asshole
where you want to be an asshole one day and
then you want to not be an asso when you

(38:04):
need help from someone. I feel that to me is
worse because it's like you're you're gonna you're you'll use anyone,
you'll use anyone to your advantage, versus just a normal
assholes and be like, you know, I don't even want
I don't care if you like benefit me. I don't
want anything to do with you. That's how much I
hate you.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
It's like that I'd rather have that person and see that.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
As what I'm saying. I don't know if like which
one is better, but like how you say, it's almost
seems like that would kind of be better because it's like, okay.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
There's no blurred lines, it's just straight to the point
exactly now.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
On the flip side, that person might just kill you,
like they might just say ef it, just like rip
your head off. And the person who isn't like that
probably isn't gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
So is the person who's not gonna do that? Are
they confused? Is that what it is?

Speaker 3 (38:50):
So honestly, I think so there's a little bit of
I don't know if it's an identity crisis, but I
think they need some soul searching to do versus like
and I guess. But the good thing is those persons,
those people can be saved. Person who is like, no,
don't touch me, you're this race, I'm gonna kill you,
that er probably just truly lost and it's just there

(39:10):
probably forever like that. So that's what I'm saying. There
really isn't like a better of the two, but at
least you can see, yeah, you can predict what they
might do versus a person who is a white nationalist,
except for when they need health care. It's like, okay,
well you'll yeah, you'll do anything.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
You'll do anything, you'll use anyone, you know, And that
I'm actually like picking up signs about my own self because.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Oh no, no, no, I was gonna say what but I
was yourself.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, because I feel like I can be like that
towards certain people. So it's like, am I the confused
one or are they confused?

Speaker 3 (39:55):
No? I think I think that confused. Okay, No, I
don't think it's I don't think it's confusion on the
other person's part, and I don't necessarily think it's confused
on your part. Out what I think it's more of.

(40:17):
It's hard. I feel like it's hard for any human
right in their beliefs unless you have a simple belief system.
I think you see what I'm trying to say. And
I don't think it's any human's fault for like, it'd
be unfair for me to look at anyone and be like, well,
you're not you don't act like this one hundred percent

(40:39):
of the time. See, you're you're confused. That's not realistic
for me to for me to say that, And that's
why I say it. May I may be able to
live a certain lifestyle, but that's because you see how
simple my life is. It's not. There's pretty much nothing
complex about And that's on purpose though, that's because I
know how to manage that. Versus other people. They may

(41:02):
not want to live their lives like that. They may
want a little bit more complex, not complex relationships, but
just some more of a complex, different life, which you're
entitled of that. But then I don't expect you to
have consistent whatever you see what I'm trying to say
versus me, I can expect that from myself because.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
You're very simple.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yeah, exactly. That's why I said, I don't look at
an other person that's confused. I just look at it
as well. You've got to figure out what you truly want,
Like what do you truly want and not?

Speaker 2 (41:35):
That's hard.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
That's me because I'm all over the.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Place, exactly, And a lot of people are all over
the place. There's there's simple people too, but a lot
of people are all over the place just because they
either either from their own choices or just from life circumstances,
they haven't had the opportunity to really like sit back
and like reflect and like take the time to look
at what they want. Just And that's what I'm saying.

(41:58):
Sometimes it's your own fault. Sometime times it's life circumstanced.
If a person has dealt with years of trauma, I'm
not gonna be like reflected like that's just their own
that's just life. But also if you if a person
has avoided that, and a person has chose to fill
your life with distractions instead of looking back and reflecting

(42:20):
on what they may or may need to work on it.
That is your fault. It's your fault that you're dealing
with whatever internal co Yeah that you not that you
should have like figured out, but you could have tried
to figure it out years back, but instead you didn't. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't even know what God is saying,
you know what?

Speaker 2 (42:38):
No, but you're you're right, And I feel like a
lot of it has to do with your maybe your
attachment style. Everything goes back, well kind of, I mean
your attachment style in life and if you were an
insecure or secure baby.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
No, I'm not even kidding insecure babies.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
I'm not even kidding.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
No, I mean I don't it could be attached. But
a lot of that stuff you have to figure out
on your own, regardless of not you're attached to someone
and can't. That can't be an excuse. Oh I didn't
figure this out because I need someone in my life
to That's that's a horrible excuse. You can't do anything
because you need someone else there to just exist.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
No, it would be more like I can't do anything
in my life because I wasn't picked up consistently when I.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Was crying out. You can, really, I swear to God
trace everything back.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
You can. But I don't think that that that after
a certain while, that.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
That becomes to get old.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Well, that becomes a crutch. And it's like if you're not,
if you don't, if you know, if who in life
walks around with crutches when they don't need to walk
around with crutches, you know what comfortable that is to
just walk around with crutch How how much of an
inconvenience it is to just have crutches?

Speaker 1 (43:47):
You used crutches.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
I think I told a story about how I sprained
my ankle. This is during a summer basketball term. I
sprained my ankle and I had went back to so
I think I took like a day or two off,
but I went back to school that monday and they
had told me to use crush and I was like, no,
I'm not going to be white, not like in like
I don't need him, was more like they're such an inconvenience,
and I'm sure enough it was extremely painful. I was

(44:10):
like walking behind like my group of friends the entire time,
and I'm thinking like holy shit, like I should just
use the crutches. But yes, I've used them.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
But I'm saying, wait, hold on, when did you sprain
your inkle?

Speaker 3 (44:23):
I've done it multiple times, yeah, the multiple most recent
time I did it was nearing the pandemic and I
actually like sprained it. Yeah, Okay, a sprain isn't like
a debilitating injury. It's not like you're need to go
to the emergency room. It's something that you can just
fix on your own.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
How with an ice elevation.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Yeah, rap, it's more like ice pack and rest. It's
just more rest. It's just the inflammation of the swing
needs to go down. It's not like you broke anything. Wow,
it's like jam. Imagine when you jam your phone.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Oh, don't go to what.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
But I'm saying that to say the attachment thing, that's
like walking around with crutches and right, and it's like,
why the hell would anyone do that?

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Walk around with literal crutches.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah, And I'm saying that's just more of an emotional
crutch that after a certain point you kind.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Of have to take accountability or just get over it.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
You know, you have to take accounting because's not your fault.
You didn't get picked up as a kid. You just
have to get over it. When they say build a
bridge and get over it, you just have to get
over it because you're not really helping yourself by still
harboring those things. Because what I've learned is the people
that you're expecting or that you wanted that from their
not even thinking about that. So it's like and they're not.
There's nothing that they can do to really change it

(45:37):
at this point. They can't. They're going to start picking
you up now, and that's supposed to erase all the years. Yeah, trauma,
It doesn't work like that. It's just I mean, you can.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
That's so sad, sadly, but you.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
Know what I'm starting to be grateful for is I'm
grateful for I'm grateful for the fact that your parents
allowed us to live our own lives, even if we
didn't get they did allow us to pretty much live.
They allow us to do whatever we wanted, but they
allow us the freedom to kind of like explore our
own interests. Like we were able to like like what
we wanted to like, and we were able to like, yeah,

(46:10):
be interested in what we were interested in, which I like,
there's a lot of kids who didn't really.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Get that, you know, I do agree with that, because
I don't remember your parents really saying like, oh, like, oh,
don't do that, that's wrong or bad, like yeah, like
of course, like okay, obviously, don't do drugs, don't drink,

(46:34):
don't get pregnant. But I feel like any and everything
else was like go for That's what I'm saying, that
none of the stuff that was really harmful to us,
we really want to do anyone.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
I mean sure, I remember when I was a cad,
I thought I was gonna be like like a drinker,
Like I remember, I remember what it's like sneaking to alcohol.
I remember thinking like, oh, I can't wait till i'm
whatever age, I'm gonna drink a lot. So I guess
that's one thing.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
What you really have those thoughts a lot.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Like oh, I like I'm ready to drink. But then
now it's like I don't even really want to do that.
But I'm saying I'm saying that to say, yeah, that's
one thing where they're like, hey, like you're not gonna
we're not gonna allow you.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
To do that, yeah, which of course yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
But there's like you said, there's not really.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Anything that The only thing I didn't like was that
I wasn't allowed to put posters on the wall or.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
The freaking and I don't remember that.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Yes, because I guess the paint was gonna I don't
know if it's because of the paint, oh.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
Yeah, that had to do with like the the optics,
or if it was like the longevity of the house.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Or if it was because it was going to look
like ghetto because they weren't like in frames.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Didn't your mom have posters?

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Yeah, but that was the only thing where I was
like WTF. And so now that I'm older, that's why
I think I put like stupid posters on the wall
because I'm trying.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
To recapture I think, yeah, misinformation.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
By okay, misinformation by who whoever.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Like told them that when they bought the house. I'm thinking, like,
how if the paint's dry, like, what is it gonna.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Like it'll chip off from the adhesive.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
It'll use tape.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yeah, you've never seen that before.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Try it plastic tape?

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Is it'll I swear to god, it'll take off the adhesive.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
May riddle me wrong, that riddle me right.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
I wish.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
I wish with all my might.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Since we both have worked more, I suggest that we
wrap this thing on them. Do you have any confessions.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
I feel like I've been eating a lot lately, a
lot of carbs, so that would probably be.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
That's a very counterintuitive to your situation, I know, the
arm situation. Get the arm situation.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Oh okay, I guess one of my confessions would be
that I love the soundtrack from the Netflix movie Cape.
I think it's called K Pop Demon Hunters. Wow, So
I know, no, actually, but it's not because so really quickly,
Olivia and I watched it twice last weekend, twice on

(49:14):
Saturday or Sunday. And it's about this group, this girl group,
like this K pop girl group in what is it?

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Okay, I don't know where they're from.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
And their their girl group is called Hunterricks and even
that alone is like such a cool name. And so
they're doing like their last World tour or whatever, and
it's a cartooner. It's like animated, and so they're demon
Hunters and so they have the ability to hunt demons. Yeah,

(49:49):
and so they happen to come across in the K
pop animated world, and so they come across the group
who's playing right now. I think they're called Sogia or
Saga something like that. But they're a boy band and
they're demons, and so they of course like end up

(50:11):
like having crushes on them or whatever, and so they're
like trying to navigate their world, tour their fans performing
demons your Mom's so that song soda pop is actually
very catchy, and so I guess my confession would be

(50:31):
that as a thirty four year old, I really enjoyed
that movie so much that I watched it twice.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Yes, and so it's got.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
I guess, so yeah, and I would definitely buy if
there was a soundtrack, which which there might be, I
would totally buy it. Oh but I don't have a CD.
Parson never mind. But it's actually a very good movie.
Whoever came up with a concept of this girl group
being demon hunters and like slaying the vampires or whatever

(51:05):
they are, I think that's like a very genus. Yeah,
And the music's really good. Excuse me, the visuals everything
great movie, and I love how they made the like
the characters like they have their own personalities and I
don't know, it's just very their own style.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
It's very cool.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
I think I got a ninety seven percent on Rotten tomatoes. Yeah,
so it's I'm telling you it's actually like legitimately, i'd
give it like a.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Solid beat better than the Titan.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
I know, nothing can surpass it. Actually, that's not true.
There are some movies which I won't get into that right.
You know. So I've never really watched that, and it's
entire first dance, you can keep the second dance. I've
never really watched that movie, and it's entirely like I'm
aware of it. I've seen bits and pieces, but I've

(52:03):
never I wonder if they were nominated for what is it,
like Best Kiss or whatever. Sean Patrick Johnson Jackson, Sean
Patrick Jackson, Sean Patrick Johnson, Julius Styles.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Yeah, Julius Styles.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Julius Styles, two names that you hardly.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Ever hear anymore. If the executive producer, he might have
executive produced.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Garfield, though why Garfield?

Speaker 3 (52:28):
I think he was in Garfield. Well, shout out to
what is it Hunter Tricks, Shout out to k Pop,
Shout to Korea.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
North or South or what is it? The demilitarized zone
that little middle parts just like a red lion.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Literally, where the have you seen like the people try
to run? I've seen there's a video.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Do you watch that on a four Chan?

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Okay, I actually don't have a fortune. I'm scared. I'm
sure it's like partially illegal to have afore it's not illegal,
but I'm sure you'll find some illegal stuff on there. However,
the there's a video of someone like running past the
demoloizone or whatever and like the guards are chasing after
him and like one of them falls, but like one
of them escapes. I think the guy who's running escape.
So it's like talk about like a jackass prank right

(53:13):
run through the de militarized zone.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
We will see you guys, imagine that being your life
that no, imagine being it being your life that you
have to guard and make sure that people don't go
over to get their freedom.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Sure, probably one of those guards got killed or like
executed because they.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Well, I probably want to kill myself as being one
of those guards. You just take away people's happiness. But
they probably have to because they live in North Krest.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
They don't exactly they'll be killed if they don't do that.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
This world is jacked life. What kind of world is where.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
People from podcasts and talk about it? Right, you guys?
Jacked everyone enjoyed. Where's my.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
I know, Father's Day pass already as far.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
As they did past. We could, we could get my.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Head phone, still happy fathers related.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Yeah you guys, he said, you have no snare in
my head phones?

Speaker 4 (54:18):
Where's my snare? Yeah, my head phone, where's my snare? Hmm,
I have no snare in my headphone. Where's my snare?

(54:43):
I have no snare my head

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Where's my snare
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