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What Happens in the Woods is atrue crime podcast. We discuss events that
are often violent in nature. Listeners, discretion is advised. Mate, what
Wanca wrote this? Have you heardthis podcast? Jess just drones on and
on, talking and talking, blahblah blah. Bryce just says okay and
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ah huh, don't get me startedon Mara and Olivia. Shit, we're
still recording. Bryce. Cue themusic. Welcome to WTF Wednesday. Half
an hour of true crime stories isthe finest now Here is your host Jess
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with true crime stories that will makeyou say what the fuck? Hello,
and welcome to true crime podcast WhatHappens in the Words. This is our
off season series WTF Wednesdays, wherewe share stories from around the world that
we'll have you saying what the fuckwith us? We've got the og Gang,
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so we have Olivia Hello, andwe've got Mara Hello, motherfucker.
Hello everybody. And we've got Casswith the Fun Facts. Hello everyone,
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and of course we've got Bryce ohhello, Hello. So this is the
end of this season. I knoweverybody's so sad. Are we ready to
get into fuckery? Yes, let'sdo it. Okay, So our first
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story is when they caught me offguard. So we all know that former
like Disney Child stars have issues,right, Nickelodeon stars have some issues.
It always surprises me to hear aboutlike criminal issues that they go through.
So does everybody remember the show That'sSo Raven? Yeah and Simone And there's
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like now a spin off series calledRaven's House, which I will not lie.
I actually watch, but I refuse. It's actually cute. It's it's
not bad. It's not bad.Yeah, I don't like spinoff shows.
It kind of irritates me sometimes.That's me. I think how they I
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don't know if it's still going ornot, but like how it started off,
I really liked. But then theybrought in, they brought back the
dad, and they went back toSan Francisco. Yeah, and it's just
I don't know, it's kind ofunder Yeah, they're they're in San Francisco
now, oh yeah, that's whereI think they were in Chicago or yeah.
Yeah. Anyways, Okay, SoI came across an article about Kyle
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Massey, who played the little brotherCorey on the show. And this article
kind of stopped me because it talksabout charges against him for criminal sexual misconduct
in the state of Washington. Whathe is accused of sending sexually explicit videos,
photos, and texts to a thirteenyear old girl between December twenty eighteen
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and January of twenty nineteen. That'saggressives. How old would he have been,
you know, I don't know.He's definitely old enough to not be
talking to a thirteen year old Rightnow, it gets worse. Apparently he
had a relationship with the mother ofthis thirteen year old girl when he was
just fifteen years old. Wow,that's wow. So there's speculation that the
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mother intended to get pregnant by Masseyand secure a piece of the Disney pie
so to speak. She said babytraffic. Yeah. Yeah. According to
Massey, there is quote inadvertent disclosurethat was sent to the girl in question.
It was not sent intentionally to her, but should have been sent to
the mom. And he also claimsthat the information out there of an arrest
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is inaccurate. So King County recordsshow he was arrested at a date and
time that he was filming a TVshow and he was in front of two
hundred witnesses. So he's really notbeen arrested, but apparently King County says
he has he claims quote they basicallyuse that fake arrest to get me my
court date and that I didn't showup to the court date that got me
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a warrant. At the time ofthe article, there was one hundred thousand
dollars bench warrant out for him.Wow wow Yeah, based off of him
being arrested and not showing for acourt date. But he's claiming he did
not get arrested. How does thathappen? What year was this? The
not the arrest, but like thetext messages, Um, so the text
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messages were twenty eighteen to December twentyeighteen to January of twenty nineteen, he
would have been twenty seven, Sohe's thirty one right now. Yeah.
But so he was in a relationshipthough at fifteen with this mom. Yeah,
like she that's like generational grooming.Oh yeah yeah, well yeah yeah,
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it is, no, it is. It is very ill because I
mean he's literally a victim of likea predator. Yeah, he was fifteen
and two thousand and six. Yeah, this, I mean this he did
say that this happened a long timeago, Like this stuff came out a
long time ago. And he justhas not responded to it. Yeah,
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like he hasn't. He hasn't doneanything for fear of like backlash, and
also that you know, he's fifteenyears old being basically sexually assaulted by a
woman, like a grown ass woman. He didn't really want that all over
the place, Like, yeah,you know, that's that's his stuff to
deal with. Why would you wantthat out for everybody, such like a
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public way. Yeah, that's along gap though, from him being fifteen,
like in a relationship with this woman, to then texting her thirteen year
old daughter, like if he's fifteenin two thousand and six, right,
and then it's texting the daughter intwenty eighteen. What is going on?
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Yeah, very true. Maybe theywere still in a relationship. I'm not
sure. He must have gotten groomed. Yeah, it's very unfortunate. Yeah.
Our next story takes us back toWorld War Two, where a finished
soldier is reported to have survived anattack from Russian soldiers by partaking in a
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little methembtamans. Yeah. On Marchnineteenth, nineteen forty four. Aimo,
Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. Your name is amazing, is amazing.
I wish I could pronounce it.Koivnan was part of the ski patrol
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near Laplin that was ambushed by Soviettroops and fled on skis in order to
cover ground quickly. This gentleman ledthe patrol to safety by making tracks in
the fresh snow for the others tofollow. So he was quickly running out
of steam, and then remembered thathe had the patrol's entire supply of a
stimulant called purvitin on him. Adose would be one pill. He ingested
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thirty. Oh yeah, he reallyneeded it. He couldn't take his glove
off because it was freezing and hedidn't have time to stop, so he
literally was doing this as he wasskiing. So he did not take off
his glove to get out one singlepill. He just dumped some pills.
And it is not a bit extreme. Yeah, I guess you know.
One's good. Thirty is better straightto thirty. Yeah, but there's no
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one between. It's either you tryit or you go full out. There's
no one. Some issues with thislogic. We don't talk about the logic.
No, there's no logic. No. So this man was in a
blackout state. He continued on cuttingtracks in the snow, and ultimately he
covered one hundred kilometers or roughly sixtythree miles while high. At one point
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he dropped down and he kind ofslept it off. He was still like
high, he just dropped unconscious andkind of yeah, couldn't couldn't go on
anymore conscious. Um, the skipatrol left him. When he came to,
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he was still high as fuck.He realized that the Soviet soldiers had
not given up the chase and hehad to continue skiing. Unfortunately, in
his rush to get away, heskied over a land mine which did explode.
And yeah, the worst look,no for real, like you're high
as hell and then you literally arean explosion. I mean that's a way
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to fuck up a vibe. Yeah, not great in World War two,
I don't a mountain. These vibesare not good. Yeah. No,
the Soviets coming for you is nota good vibe. That's not the vibe.
No, thank you. He wasinjured in the expulsion in the fire,
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but he was still high. Halfthe meth which actually ate it in
keeping him alive, as he foundcovering a ditch until help arrived. So
he was just kind of laying inthis ditch for days high off the meth,
eating pine buds and you know,surviving through subzero temperatures. Yeah,
that was really widely known that that'swhat they called like the blitz rig.
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Yeah, that's how the Nazis performedit so fastest because they gave him all
those drugs. There was There wasa bunch of shows about it too.
But also just like I still rampedthe fact that there was a video of
like we didn't know at the time, but like killer just tweaking out and
like nobody in like the you know, thirties forties didn't know what tweaking was.
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But like you look at that videonow and holy shit, like he
is tweaking the fuck out. I'venever seen that video. I don't.
No, it's pretty good because wewant to see it. So when he
was like found and like you know, they got him to a hospital.
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All in all, he crossed fourhundred kilometers or two hundred and fifty miles
over the course of this all thisthat he did, and he reached the
hospital, he weighed ninety four pounds. Jesus, holy shit, right,
because he just burnt through every fuckingounce of fact, he had his heart
rate was over two hundred beats perminute energy muscle fiber. Yeah, like
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everything's burned through everything. This gentlemanlived on to see his seventy first birthday.
He died like in the nineties.Wow, Yeah, congrats, And
I mean he didn't. This didn'tkill him, like he's super human.
He's fucking he was on he wassuper human. Yeah, I'm I just
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I don't. I did not knowthat this was a thing that they were
giving soldiers meth. I didn't knowgo through that. Yeah, I didn't
know it was meth, but Ihad heard of like stimulants being used.
I thought it was it was likesteroids. But then also I didn't want
to believe that they were giving Americantroops drugs because of how it wasn't the
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American I don't think it was theAmericans. That's why they did the blitz
Kraig, and that's how they tookover Europe so fast, is because soldiers
didn't have to eat, soldiers didn'thave to sleep. They just kept going
and going and going. And likethe other side, they thought it was
like you know, wave after waveof like this huge army and it's like
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literally the same battalion just going afterthem because they didn't have to sleep,
eat or drink. Yeah. Yeah, you know you had a fighting force
for twenty four hours that'd take overthe world, you know. And that's
seriously blitz Kraig lightning attack is whatit's called. That's how that's how they
got across Europe. It's crazy.Yeah, it's incredible to think that math
almost brought down Western civilization. Yeah, I mean there were things as amphetamines,
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but like, yeah, the Nazis, like you know, took it
to a different level. Of coursethey did, and they thought they think
that's where crystal meth came from.Is like the Nazis, uh, you
know really yeah, what the hell? I don't know why. But like
I'm thinking of like those those likecommercials that are like, don't do drugs
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or you'll you'll be this. LikeI feel like, literally, if Ronald
Reagan had sent out a campaign thatsaid drugs are bad, you don't want
to be a fucking Nazi. Ithink, like that's literally what I'm seeing
in my mind, like someone someonefrom that time being like if you do
meth, you goo or a Nazi. Like that's what I'm I'm picturing.
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Oh no, if it's so bad. No, Like here, here's that
video of like of Hitler. Sohe's just looking back and forth, tweaking.
Wow. So did he take thirtypills too? No, but he
was known forty two a big advocateof that. What is happening touching?
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He's rubbing a gun. He wasa vegetarian and he swore off alcohol.
Hitler. Sure, I mean,great for you, that's great, but
you didn't then you do this andyou kill people that doesn't write your wrongs.
But I can also see how thisis something he's touching his madness,
like he was taking this, Yeah, exactly, tweeked out of his hand,
and that's something that was hand Likea lot of those you said,
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I mean you were you were jokingabout the game. Yeah, they make
a lot more sense now that youknow, like he was on drugs,
because they don't teach you that inhigh school. They just teach you that
he was the leader and it washis decision. But they don't be like,
oh yeah, there wasn't There wasa known drug back then that was
a methymphetamine, and they all tookit. I mean, honestly, I
think I think some people need tohear that they do, they really do,
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because yeah, like no, it'snot going to change the fact that
Hitler did some fucked up shit,but it's a good thing to know.
Yeah, maybe because they don't standbehind the ideology of the man on drugs
severely. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's incredible. The things you learn,
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the more you know, the moreyou know. All right, now
it's time for our Florida fuckery,all right. In twenty nineteen, Wesley
Dasher Scott was busted and brought inon a marijuana charge in phon Ellis County
jail. While being arrested in thefield, Scott was searched and he was
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asked if there was anything on him. He said, nope, sure was
not nothing else. The forty yearold was then stripped searched at the jail,
where it was promptly found that therewere three syringes just hanging out where
do you guys think where? Butin his butt it prison pocket? Yeah,
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because like in a mail that's alllike, yeah, where else are
you gonna put it? Like upyour dick? Like that's can't hurt And
people have shoved things up their dick. I'm sure, yeah, because we
did this story on that. Yeahyou did like a USB charger. Yeah
yeah, yea yeah, it waslike a charging chord like a usc USBC
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or whatever. Yeah yeah, andit got like up in his uh testicles,
and shit, I am going tolive with that image for the rest
of my life. If I hadeveryone else I saw the X rays,
Oh yeah, I'm sure I couldfind it from the link. I don't
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want to know, Okay, butthe sky was syrenders and as. But
like, are they capped? Iyou know, I didn't say I'm going
to assume that they would be.I can't imagine that you could like function
and walk and marijuana is a goodthing, but it's not going to make
you that relaxed to where a syrangewithout a cap is gonna be okay,
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up your ass. But it's funnierif it didn't have a cap, it
would be funnier. It's funnier,but it would be less likely. True
I'm saying he could do that.I mean, what if one of the
caps wasn't on there all the wayand it came off. I feel like
you could die from that, Likeyou like you would be bleeding badly,
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well bleeding, But what if itleaked maine. Yeah, what do you
mean, Yeah, yeah, leaksout inside your body. Yeah. Yeah,
and we've watched enough. Gray's anatomicwe know. Yeah. I don't
know why, but I thought youwere talking about like the marijuana linking like
leaking into his bowl like his Idon't think he's The syringes didn't have marijuana,
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like, No, the syringes.I don't know what they had,
but he was just on marijuana.Yeah. He apparently removed the needles himself,
as you should, because I don'twant touch that. I'm not going
in there. He handed them tothe deputy conducting the search. No.
Yeah, then you can put themdown on the ground and them down rights.
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Yeah, the baggy is right overthere for you, sir. He
impromptly said that they weren't his.Oh, but like he didn't put them
there, or I mean, oncethey're up your bet, they're yours.
You claim those. It's it's likespitting on food that's yours. Yeah,
you're not getting money for that,like looking things, Yeah, that's the
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that's your. Those are your syringes, now, sir. It would be
one thing if like you hid themlike in your mouth somewhere, but up
your ass, No, No,that's yours. Then when can you imagine
like if he was trying to sellthose to somebody, like somebody he was
like, hold on, I gotthat's what people do they do? Yeah,
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my god, what is the worldcoming to? Well, you know,
there are people that go steal froma store and they shove it up
their hohoha up there for JJ andthey end up walking out with like a
little wattle And I'm like, whatthe fuck you got up there? I
just don't know how that's I don'tI will never get over the human obsasion
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with sticking things and holes. Yeah, you know, I can't imagine.
Mean where you go in and likeget the mothers the cookies the bag of
little Mother's cookies and shove it upyour hooha, Like what what are you
putting up there? No, it'slike the rod crackers, It's like coke,
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like Coca cola, anything literally anythinganything that's packaged and that can like
be cleaned, they will stick itup there. That just sounds so painful.
Thank you. I'm I'm scared youmight have some discomfort. Might but
like yeah, then it depends onyour hooha. I'm like, I'm not
saying all the hoohas it say,the same shape, size and whatever.
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That's fine. Still scared. Also, if you're on drugs, you might
not feel it, but you stillwill have a wattle. You might,
you might not. It's just funny. It's just it's very funny how people
just stick things up things. It'sreally truly a feat of human engineering.
Thought supposed to go there. Pleasestall you as a mother, that's not
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supposed to go there. We don'tput things in our anus. I don't
want to. Please stop. SoScott was charged with felony possession of contraband
in a county detention facility, possessionof drugs without a prescription with the intent
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to sell, possession of marijuana andpossession of drugs without a prescription. He
was held on a five thousand dollarbond. I just don't I think that
was a low ball of that thatthat seems too insignificant for I don't know.
I also feel like the intent tosell it like well, I mean
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he had it on him side.What are you going to do with three
syringes filled with some kind of drug? I don't know what they were.
I mean yeah, I mean youhad an opportunity to tell the officer that
you had something on you, notonly on you, but in you and
you. Well, maybe that's theproblem. They didn't word it correctly.
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Do you have anything else on you? No? proNT say in me?
Yeah, loophole, loop, loophole. Okay, Well they don't care about
a loophole when you're pulling syringes outof your asshole. Maybe can we how
it's disrespectful? Yeah, just standin courts? Yeah, well it's stand
in court. I don't know.Tell me in the comment stampole. Weigh
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in on this, you guys,please, I need answers. All right,
let's move on to cass Is Funfact. Hey everybody, Okay,
so I have a little, alittle moment today, just a little one.
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Let's talk about our ABC's. OhI'm scared our ABC's, ourbcs or
alphabet or okay, or just theA the B in the C. Yeah,
the alphabet like the Jackson five singingis no? Okay? So,
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like, what do you think themost common letter in the English languages?
A? No, E? Iare t It's e. It's E?
Yeah? Was I right? DidI say E? Yeah? Oh I
did? Yeah, it would havebeen it would have been one of the
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vowels, I think no. Butwhat's really funny, Bryce, is that
T is the second most usual inthe English language, the third being A.
So technically everyone's up in the topthree, you know, third place.
Yes, do I get a medal? I do have participation trophy?
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Do they look real? They're madefrom plasta, so it's not going up
on my shelf and I can't showit off at every family. But no,
But I see if I could findyou some kind of metal of maybe
a sash. Maybe you just startwearing a sash everywhere. I guess we're
gonna make you a button. Oh, a button. But it's not the
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same. You want a T shirt? You want? What you want?
What do you want? Give youa round of applause? What do you
want? Not what they want?You want? I don't know. Thank
you, Thank you everyday. Marand I we did it together. Oh
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ok, even I guessed, right, How did you do? I was
top three? I did good enough, participation I got there. I tried
my best top three. Yeah,well, you know sometimes sometimes yeah you
know, yeah for sure? Yeahno, no, yeah, yeah,
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yeah, yeah yeah no, butyeah no, just like that the entire
fucking podcast. Yeah no, no, no, yeah, we do talk
like that was California. Nothing else, no context, no nothing, We're
just like no yeah, yeah,no, no for sure, but yeah,
absolutely for sure. Yeah, Ineed to know if other people do
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that, Like I've heard that's aCalifornia thing. It is a California thing,
but anyone else transfers like it's it'smade its way along the West coast
because I do your people, you'rewelcome. Yeah, I've seen you know,
I've heard a couple of people uphere say how like but they do
it unintentionally. Yeah, they don'tdo it right, No, it's the
gate keeping, ok keeping, gatekeeping hella exactly. No. And then
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like nobody understands when I say,like, oh, we're going out to
the cuts, right yeah, cut, Well that's the thing here. It's
okay, yeah, well it's butit's all the cuts. But it's also
like the thing like you have thegood parts and then you have the bad
parts. No, one that's likeall that you refer it too is good
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and bad. They say like outout the cuts, not like like the
backstreet, you know, like theydo the cuts, because I just define
that as like way out there.No, it's like ghetto. I don't
use it that way? Am Iusing it these people? Cuts? Yeah?
I thought it was way out thereas well. Yeah, like way
out there. I think some peopleuse it for like the ghetto, but
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I say the cuts, like likeif you're way out there, like your
house doesn't have a lot of neighbors, Like yeah, like we're going to
go out to the cuts and havelike a bonfire and the almond grove right,
like the the almond groves, thealmonds to almonds. What is that
the almond trees? But what there'strees? Trees? Okay, that's why
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I'm not following. We don't.I would go out, but that's over
there. It was like the pronunciationthat she was saying. I was like,
Mara, it's almonds. I understood. Why are you talking about trees?
Scars? Scared? No, Ithink everybody has that, Like you
know, you're like for us likeRoy that's out in the cuts, right
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or like eaton Bill, Yeah that'sright, Yeah, shout out to Washington
us out out in the head.Shut up. People don't know how to
say like the like either out ofpocket or um come at me from the
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side, like don't like like you'recoming out the cuts, you're coming at
me sideways, like what the fuck? Like y'all know for sure, like
your hell coming at me side?Yeah? Literally, im take you fucking
together? Yea literally yes, likethese they coming out say it's so wrong.
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Yeah, and then like they alwaysget confused because I'll say that,
like if someone like irritates me ata job, I'll be like, this
bitch just came at me fucking sideways. And she was like she punted you,
like tackled you. I was like, came at me sideways sway like
what you're probably football because she thoughtlike someone like came at me like literal
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like at my side, like someonetackled. Yeah, And I was like,
where did you get that? Whoare these people? Did you not
hear me like fall or anything ifI got tackled like scream or anything.
It's not like that, sweetie.Yeah. I was just like, no,
that just just forget about it.Just say you don't understand that leaves
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off really that's fine? Well yeah, I mean, girl, that's my
part of the song. If youknow, you know, shouts out to
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the bay, what did you say, rip girl? He been dead?
Is this Olivia learning that Mac isdead? Oh my God, he's been
dead like the nineties, right,No, hold on, I didn't know
about either eighties or nineties he gotshot. Yeah what oh damn, I'm
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stupid. I'm stupid as hell.I thought it was I had no idea.
I had none, Okay, butit took me a long time to
know what actually happened at Tupacs.So I don't want to hear it,
okay, because I was too youngfor that shit. I don't think you
were even born when Tupac now whenhe got killed. But like when it
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was like everywhere where everyone was tryingto figure out what was happening. I
was still in high school when ithappened, right, yeah, it was.
It was in the nineties. Yeah, But like remember how we used
to go to like grandma, Grandmaalita'sand she would always have like this news
about how people like died and theyfigured out like why how they died or
something for wah wah. I don'tknow why. But like I was always
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too young to like, won't understandwhat they were talking about. Number two
to like hear about murder basically,yes, yeah, okay, ninety six,
that's right. So I just likeit's within my lifetime. He graduated.
I hadn't graduated high school when thathappened. I knew I was in
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high school in some way some piecesof the greats. Yeah, crazy,
that was a moment. Yeah.I still can't believe they don't know what
happened to Marilyn Monroe. They knowthe CIA, they fucking know what happened
to her, but they don't wantto say it. No, they don't
want to say it. This it'sit's it's so off topic, but topic.
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This sea it really did and that, y'all. That's how that works.
That's that's how you use that terminology. Yeah, you're welcome anyway,
Yeah, I know for sure.Yeah, like hello, yeah, hello,
hello, hello anyway. That wasa great fun topic. Yeah,
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there's hella. Ease in right,don't come in east sideways, okay,
okay, all right, Well thanksfor that fun fact cast. You're welcome.
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So interestingly enough, our next storyis from South Dakota. In June
of twenty twenty two and the StandingRock end of Indian Reservation action was taken
against a nonprofit called the Lakota LanguageConsortium, who had been recording the Lakota
tribe elders for years gathering the languageto supposedly preserve it for future generations.
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The nonprofit that is ram by awhite man, was supposed to be creating
a standardized like dictionary and textbook andhad been given access to the tribe and
the reservations lands. And when thetextbooks were requested by the tribal elders,
the man running the consortium told themhe had copyrighted the material and he would
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be selling it back to the tribefor their use everywhere. Literally copyrighted their
language, their stories, their heritage. I hate that. That's not illegal,
fucked up? I don't right,yeah, right, But also tell
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me what other language is copyrighted.I don't know. How do you copyright
a language and what other language willbe copyrighted. I'm just gonna say that's
red flags. Like someone comes comesup to you and I was like,
I'm gonna prefer like what's the word. Well, yeah, I mean he
deserved their language, but you interviewedlike elders of the tribe to get like
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stories and nuances of how they tellstories, you know, and yeah,
and then you sell it back tothem the literal Caucasity literally like I can
say it, how were you howdid that even like come up? Like,
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I want to know why you eventhought about like, oh, let
me just like you know, talkto all these people get their ship and
their stories. But copyright it hadto be promitated. I feel like,
yeah, I feel like there there'sdefinitely some questionable actions to be part of
this non profit. Yeah. Um, Apparently there were concerns regarding the methods
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that the Lakota Language Consortium used togather and distribute this material with not just
the Standing Rock Sioux Nation tribe,but at least three other tribes had concerns
as well. So the tribal councilunanimously banished the consortium and the founders of
it off of their reservation in land, which is I mean they should as
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they should. Yeah, so theconsortium and their founders actually like made profit.
It's a non for profit. Butthe man who was spearheading this reported
an income of two hundred and tenthousand dollars from the nonprofit. How do
you how do you have like threetimes the average amount of income for one
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person from a nonprofit as your incomemakes some goddamn sounds math right, The
average median income on the reservation forpeople who are, you know, part
of the tribe and live on thereservation? Is forty thousand dollars? Wow?
So I mean an average income nowfor most people is like sixty something
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thousand dollars, they say is likethe medium average income across the nation,
but on this reservation it was justforty thousand dollars was the medium income.
This man reported an income for oneyear of two hundred and ten thousand dollars.
What a pizza shit? Yeah?Actually, yeah, yeah, that's
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so disrespectful, it really is.I don't again, I don't know how
you copyright a language, So Idon't know if he was copywriting his collection
of the material, but that didinclude the sources and the actual language.
Yeah. Maybe it's just like thebook itself and the contents of it just
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confused by that because it's their language. Right, you literally got it all
from them, but you're like you'vecome from your brain and then to not
give it back to them. Yeah, like you've taken from the source.
And yes, you've put in work, You've put work into collecting that.
That's your time and your efforts.I understand that, and you should be
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compensated in some way for that.But then you gather all of that from
a source and then charge them tohave it back. I feel like that
should have at least been talked aboutbefore, or the term should have been
discussed. Yeah, if they were, they have, that's the thing.
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He may they may have had aconversation and that didn't come on and he
lied, or it may have beenlike halfway through and he was like,
well, you know, I'm puttingall this effort into this. Who's to
say that somebody won't come and takewhat I've done and take credit for it.
You don't have to copyright it,though, Yeah, you know,
just put your name on it.Just publish a book and put your name
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on it, and you'll get thecredit for it. You don't have to
copyright that. Yeah. Yeah.So literally, just putting them one after
the other should not get you intotrouble. However, the literature across the
world, copyrights applied to the author'sworks. While you cannot protect the language
since you did not create it,you surely can't protect your work since you
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created it. Also, no UScourt has ever ruled on the copyright eligibility
of a spoken language. The closestcame with analog as computer language which has
been held to be not copyrightable.But no language has ever been able to
be copywritten. So this guy literallyjust made a copy, you know,
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got copywritten his work to be stillright. But his work is the preservation
of their language. It's it's acollaborative effort. So I would like to
see if he got in trouble forthis and or just got denied it and
been like nope, you're a pieceof shit, because that would be awesome
justice. But I mean it wouldyeah, yeah, I mean I don't
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know. No one publishes your bookand then you have to publish it yourself.
I don't even think he wanted topublish. I think he was just
holding it for ransom. Yeah,I kind of it sounds like yeah,
but I hope it comes out ofyour pockets and you lose all your two
hundred ten thousand dollars. I don'thave more plus more. I mean,
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ben, would that benefit to havethe sue nation? You know, that's
their their history, their storytelling theirlanguage. It's not going to benefit anybody
else. Nobody else is going totake an active you know, like oh
I have to have this book.Yeah, you know. I it's like,
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what did you think you were goingto get from it. And not
only that, but you're targeting agroup of individuals who are disenfranchise, Like
it's not that's not the word,what's the word? Already's downtrodden right there.
You know, their average median incomeis forty thousand dollars a year.
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Want that language or probably like thepolygots, those people that are just naturally
a depth at like learning languages doesn'tmatter. Maybe, and there's a ton
of them out there. Yeah,And I sure, I guess, but
why wouldn't you go to the source? But it's like it's like also um,
collecting anything, the more rare thelanguage, and that you know,
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it's like their thing, you know. Yeah, So if there's this rare,
you know, language that nobody reallyknows and only a few people can
speak, and then you learn itall of a sudden and you're like at
the top of the polygot world.I and I guess in some way that
that preserves it. I just don'tthink that's if I wanted to learn like
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a culture or like a language,I'm more likely would want to go like
to the source, like go tothe place that I want to learn about,
so that like I can learn itright, and you can like immerse
yourself in it and be respectful.Yeah, Like because you don't want to
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disrespect anyone that like, isn't itdifferent culture you want to know? You
shouldn't want to and like if youever think about, oh, I'm disrespecting
this person on purpose because their cultureis not mine. Like that's rude,
Like that that's uncalled for. Likeyou wouldn't want to do anything to offend
anyone else's culture, and you wouldn'twant to do the same, Like you
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don't want the same. So Ijust unless that's just me because like,
of course no, I just likethat's so out of say this gentleman did
not so out of pockets literally,yeah, yeah, shame on you,
sir, shame on. I hopeyour toothpaste runs out when you need it.
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I hope every inconvenience happens in oneday. I hope you run out
of toilet paper and you have anupset tummy. Yeah yeah, and there's
no one to bring you in thehere's no one to bring you any toilet
paper. I hope that your sheetsdon't feel right. I hope you find
a hair in every single for meall that you. Oh my god,
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that's horrible. No, TONI clippingslike food, all of the all of
the universe. Karma is going tocome back to you, all of it.
Yeah, yeah, all right.Our last story comes to us from
our friends to the North Canadian Canada, Canadia friends, Canada, Canadian friends.
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And this is like literally the mostCanadian thing I can think of as
far as crime goes in Canada.So it involves the scheme to steal maple
syrup. Yes, I thought youwant to say something about like someone didn't
say please, I didn't say pleaseplease, Like I feel like that's about
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crime as it gets. But Iguess this, this might yeah, no,
this definitely so. Richard Valieris wasultimately charged and convicted of roughly fourteen
point four million dollars worth of missingmaple syrup for what do you even like?
Why that's a lot of pancakes people, right, So thirty three hundred
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tons of maple syrup. All Iguess, buddy, like missing gone?
Right? Tons? Tons, tonsnot not like a ton, tons,
not like four cops like four tons. So, between twenty eleven and twenty
twelve, Bellieris and a team stolefrom a Quebec emergency stockpile of reserve maple
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syrup. The emergency stockstile. Whydid they have that? You know why?
Because God forbid they don't have maplesyrup. But what the fuck is
it? You know what's going tohappen is the entire world's economy is going
to collapse and the only thing thatpeople will have to hold onto in Canada
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is the maple syrup. They reserveit literally the emergency stockpile because it not
like for for income or just becauseI mean, because think about it,
to support the economy. The trees, right, it's processed from the sap
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of the trees. So what whathappens when there's no trees. Yeah,
we're in the middle of a climatecrisis. Like the maple trees could like
die out and the maple syrup willbecome like gold. Right, Honestly,
everything's gonna Climate is happening all thetime. Climate issue is climate change.
Climate is happening. It is true. What I said was true, and
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so was the other thing valid.It's all valid. Everything is validate,
validation given, thank you. Sothey sold the goods throughout the US and
Canada, and it was discovered thatthe thieves were siphoning syrup from the barrels
in the warehouse and replacing it withwater, Like it's not even an equivalent,
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like it water and maple syrup,Like that's not what are you how
are you going to? Like who'snot gonna notice? But they're in barrel
some of you can't see inside.Are they doing this like over a specific
period of time or they over likea year? Okay, so like they
siphoned it over a year, wellokay, thirty three hundred tons though over
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a year. No I know,but like I'm saying, like, because
what I'm picturing, it's just likein one day, one night, they
just came in with a big assfucking barrel. It was like yeah,
yeah, no, but actually,like logistically, how do you move that
much maple syrup? You would needlike a tanker? Well, it's probably
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like an inside job. No,it was totally an inside job, Yeah,
siphoning it and moving it out,and they probably probably had everything legit
enough. And then when they realizedthat these tankers of maple's rup weren't getting
to the bottling place to process it, then probably there was some questions.
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That's just there's a lot of questionssurroundings. I mean, obviously they were.
They probably should have like stopped ahead. They did was they siphoned one
taking to a different tank and thenlowered themselves down from the ceilings on a
wire to connect all those tanks.And his name is Tom. I cannot
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Oh my god. Yeah, theydid that. I did that. At
least they sold it and I'll justkept it themselves, okay, But like
they sold it to the US.Of course they did. Yeah, I
mean, of course we want thegood ship. There we go again,
capitalism baby, right, But youknow it's even worse. You know what
else I saw what the world ofart heists Like they're finding all these new
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pieces like of art they thought werelost to like fires ors, and they're
starting to find all these new piecesof art where I guess not new,
but they're refinding them. People havehad them hiding for years and years.
People die. You know the storyYou didn't, Oh yeah, the guy?
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Yeah are Italian friends. Yeah,Italian friends, which we're going to
move into your neighborhood. Yeah,I've actually been researching. I'm not gonna
lie. That's completely off topic.But yes, that guy, that gentleman
had so many thousands of pieces ofjewelry and other things that we're just there
and nobody's suspected. And that's happeningwith like art people or finding art that
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was like long hidden and people aredead now that had it and so it's
just coming out that, you know, like, oh yeah, my great
uncle had this piece of art thatwe thought was long gone and here it
is worth millions of dollars now oopsyeah, oops, whoop. Yeah.
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I mean that would make a greatbook though, like you have all these
people finding lost art and then ifyou can get the people telling, you
know, the stories they all acquiredthis art. Love that movie, you
know what, I kind of wantto watch it, you know what.
I low key like that is theonly Nicholas Cage movie that I can watch.
Yeah, yeah, you know,yeah, no, it's a great
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movie. Yes, but can youimagine talking to these people and they'd be
like, oh, yeah, weopened up a cabinet and there was a
false back and here's this painting that'sbeen gone for thousands of years, a
hundred years. That's gonna be myhouse. It's gonna have a like a
secret room. Oh yeah, Narnia. Yeah, Oh my god, it's
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gonna have a secret pantry and it'sgonna have a secret Um. I need
a George compartment. I need aspeak Easy and I'm doing a speak Easy
in the basement. For sure.Yeah, for sure. We'll make homemade
mead and serve it at speakeasy.We need hooge. We get the mead.
We need hooch little cooch. Didyou say cool? What what am
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I I'm not I'm not paying forcooch. No, um, I want
it said, Okay, hooch.Well, we're at the end of our
WTF season. I think we'll endit on that. No, thank you
very much. Thank you so muchfor everyone for joining us. We have
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had a lot of fun, alot of laughs, and just enjoyed bringing
you all the fuckery the regular seasonfor what Happens in the Woods, we'll
resume on July seventh. Join uson the socials. Let us know if
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