November 12, 2024 • 57 mins
Air Date - 07 November 2024
In a first for What is Going Om, this week’s show will include a full screening of the new short documentary A Radical Guide to Reality, followed by a discussion with Dr Jude Currivan. A short film for young people and truth seekers of all ages, A Radical Guide to Reality shares how scientific breakthroughs and evidence at all scales of existence are converging with universal wisdom teachings to reveal that our entire Universe meaningfully exists and purposefully evolves as an interdependent and unified entity; inviting us to re-member who we really are – and who we can evolve to become.
Dr. Jude Currivan is a cosmologist, planetary healer, futurist, author, and co-founder of WholeWorld-View. She was previously one of the most senior businesswomen in the UK, has a Master’s degree in Physics from Oxford University specializing in quantum physics and cosmology, and a PhD in Anthropological Archaeology from the University of Reading researching ancient cosmologies. She has traveled to nearly 80 countries and worked with wisdom keepers from many traditions, and her extensive experience and knowledge of world events, systems, and trends have led her to speak on transformational reforms in the UK, US, Europe, Japan, South Korea, and Australasia. She is the author of seven books, latterly the best-selling and Nautilus award-winning The Cosmic Hologram: In-formation at the Center of Creation and The Story of Gaia: The Big Breath and the Evolutionary Journey of our Conscious Planet and is a member of the Evolutionary Leaders circle. | https://www.judecurrivan.com | https://www.wholeworld-view.org/jude-currivan
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In a first for What is Going Om, this week’s show will include a full screening of the new short documentary A Radical Guide to Reality, followed by a discussion with Dr Jude Currivan. A short film for young people and truth seekers of all ages, A Radical Guide to Reality shares how scientific breakthroughs and evidence at all scales of existence are converging with universal wisdom teachings to reveal that our entire Universe meaningfully exists and purposefully evolves as an interdependent and unified entity; inviting us to re-member who we really are – and who we can evolve to become.
Dr. Jude Currivan is a cosmologist, planetary healer, futurist, author, and co-founder of WholeWorld-View. She was previously one of the most senior businesswomen in the UK, has a Master’s degree in Physics from Oxford University specializing in quantum physics and cosmology, and a PhD in Anthropological Archaeology from the University of Reading researching ancient cosmologies. She has traveled to nearly 80 countries and worked with wisdom keepers from many traditions, and her extensive experience and knowledge of world events, systems, and trends have led her to speak on transformational reforms in the UK, US, Europe, Japan, South Korea, and Australasia. She is the author of seven books, latterly the best-selling and Nautilus award-winning The Cosmic Hologram: In-formation at the Center of Creation and The Story of Gaia: The Big Breath and the Evolutionary Journey of our Conscious Planet and is a member of the Evolutionary Leaders circle. | https://www.judecurrivan.com | https://www.wholeworld-view.org/jude-currivan
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to what is going on for New Thought from
the Edge of Arm. Each week on home Time's flagship
radio show, veteran broadcaster, author, and media consultant Sandy Sedgebeer
conducts thought provoking interviews with inspirational authors, artists, musicians, scientists, speakers,
and filmmakers who are working at the point where spirituality
(00:32):
and science meet consciousness, at the very edge of arm.
Here is your host, Sandy Sedgeber.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello, Welcome. In a first for this show, today's episode
will include a screening of the powerful short documentary A
Radical Guide to Reality, which shares how scientific playthroughs are
converging with universal wisdom teachings to reveal that our entire
universe meaningfully exists and purposefully evolves as an interdependent and
(01:07):
a unified entity, and that we're not inseparable from each other,
Gia and the entire universe. Joining me to share the
inspiration behind the film, its goals, and how you can
participate in helping it to smash its target of one
million views is cosmologists, planetary healer and futurist Dr Jude Craven,
(01:31):
who's the award winning author of the books The Cosmic Hologram,
and the story of Gia. Dr Jude Caraven, Welcome back
to the show.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Sandy's always a delight to be with you, and I'm
so gad we're together for what I think, for me
is a very special event.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
This movie was a long time coming.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, that was my going to be my opening question. Actually,
you know, because I know that it's a project very
close to your heart and to the heart of the
organization that you co founded, Whole World dot view No
dash view, it's Whole World hyphenview dot org. And in
addition to writing and also narrating the movie and executive
(02:15):
producing it, you know it has taken sixteen years to
make it, you know to the public. So why did
it take so long?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Well, I'm a great believer in perfect timing, even as
you and I both know that can take longer that we.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Might like it too.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I really had the idea for the film, and also
the title for the film, as you mentioned, sixteen years ago.
But I also realized that sixteen years ago I hadn't
written the Cosmic Hologram. By then, I hadn't written the
story of Gaya by Them and the sort of evidence
that really grounds the movie and those books across all
(02:57):
scales of existence and many many different thing fields of research,
which means that we can share its message with really
foundational evidence and authenticity and integrity. Is they weren't fully,
the evidence was not there to the extent that it
is now. And you've seen what the last sixteen years
(03:17):
has brought in terms of that incredibly increase, incredibly increase
in this evidential base. So the timing is perfect. And also,
as the world is as it is at the moment,
a message that offers I feel, authentic hope and empowerment
and inspiration, a reality that we are inseparable from each other,
(03:39):
I think is a really important, vital message now. So
I would say the timing is perfect.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Even though.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I was hot to trot as they say, sixteen years ago,
I'm so glad that.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
It is planning to night the books back then or
were they not even in your mind at that point?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Not at that point.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
So it was more of an intention and a dream
than something that you had your eye on, you know,
that could manifest.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It was more of a sense that one day this
will be or that one day this will happen, and
I trust that. I always trust that, and so you know,
over that long period of time. You know, there were
opportunities that might have resulted in the film, but they never.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Came to anything.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
But I just kept going. So it was also a
lesson for me in terms of just keep on keeping on.
You know, if the idea still has validity and it's
how ever greater I think validity, its.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Time will come.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah. So the movie was presented in Oxford's iconic examination hall,
which is interesting because it was presented fifty one years
after you earned your master's degree in the same venue.
That must have been a really sweet moment for you.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
It was sweet and surreal in a way.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, and a very very I mean I remember how
nervous I was in those examination halls fifty one years ago.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
And then now, you.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Know, at the beginning of September, it was just joyous
and we had, you know, over three hundred people participating
the Eurotas conference, and that was hosted by alf Trust
and Les Lancaster, who heads up A Left Trust, is
my co producer for the film, and he and I
introduced it.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
So it's sort of a lovely moment to share.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And that began a whole series of premiers and watch
parties that are ongoing, And thank you again for inviting
me to share this together.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
You know, and with your community.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Who wouldn't want to share it. It is a really
beautiful film, beautifully produced, standing imagery, and you had some
wonderful support, didn't you? Under grant from Purpose Earth to
help fund it and so that you could keep it
free for people. I did.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Purpose Earth were very early supporter of us, but the
main supporter was not Purpose the supporter that really enabled
the film to be as a private foundation, who have
been incredibly wonderful. Purpose are fabulous at offering smaller grants
to startups, but we really needed a full film budget
(06:20):
to make this happen. So it was another foundation and
the fat and the president of whom was in that
room to watch it.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
So that was all so wonderful.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
How did you find the whole? I mean, you're used
to writing books. You know, you've written The Switch. You
narrated the movie and your executive produced it. Quite different
from writing books. How did you find that process?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Do you know? And I don't know ho if you
feel this, but I just love creativity and creative projects.
And for me, the script came straight away and then
I was very fortunate because the sound engineer for the
two audio versions of The Cosmic Hologram and the Story
(07:05):
of Gaya, Nikolai Boglin Brattis, is also an amazing composer,
so he actually composed the music and the soundscape for
the film. But then we needed a director and a photographer,
you know, a director of photography, and he had been
to university with Ivan Morera and Tom Lethwaite, and he
(07:27):
invited and we invited them into the project to be
the project team with Boglin, and my goodness, what a team,
amazing team, and you know, it was very much I
guess my vision and as a director, a lot of
directors I think don't like producers having such a clear vision,
(07:47):
because you know, that's what they do. But it was
such an amazing co creative effort and all of them,
and especially Ivan and Tom, we worked together very closely
for the look of the film and they had some
amazing ideas, incredible graphics and to be honest, the budget
(08:09):
we had the film. Actually, when people have said how
much did it cost, and occasionally I tell them, they're thinking,
it must have cost ten times that amount.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
The thought is that the film would have cost hundreds
of thousands of dollars, and it didn't because of the
commitment of the production team and everybody else working for free,
including myself.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You know, it was a labor of love.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
As you say, yeah, well, we'll watched the film in
a few moments. First, I want to say that you
co founded the Whole Worldview in two thousand and seven seventeen,
and the first words we see on the website are
welcome home, which immediately makes us feel at home. Tell
us before we view the film, what are the goals
(08:54):
of Whole Worldview?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
To serve the understanding, the experience and seeing and the
embodying of unitive awareness. It's really to serve conscious evolution.
It's to serve the remembering. As the right at the
end of the film, our sort of heroine Jen says,
to remember who we really are and who we can
evolve to become. So that's that's the real It's not
(09:21):
the goal. I'm not very good at goals.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
They usually your own goal.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
If I set goals, they usually your own goals.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
So I tend to sort of a tune in a
line with what's flowing through and then aim to serve
it as best I can, And that's the aim and
ongoing game with whole worldview, and it's very much the
aim of the film.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Well, let's watch that movie. Now.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Everything breathes. People breathe, plants, breathe, planets, breathe. Our whole
universe breathes. Our universe began to breathe nearly fourteen billion
(10:34):
years ago. Instead of the implied chaos of a big bang,
it began as the first moment of a wonderfully fine tuned,
beautifully ordered, and ongoing big breath. Like a baby, it
(10:59):
was born as simple as possible, to be able to
grow and vitally to evolve as its big breath continued,
with space expanding from its minuscule birth and time flowing
(11:19):
from past to present to future. Its evolutionary journey from
simplicity to complexity and ever greater levels of diversity and
self awareness lead from hydrogen and helium to stars and galaxies,
(11:44):
and eventually to planets and plants and people. The hydrogen
in the water of our bodies and in the water
of our planetary home, Geia, is only a few minutes
(12:04):
younger than our universe. All else that makes up us
and Gia was created in stars billions of years ago.
Our story is the story of our universe. Yet what
(12:28):
really is the reality of our universe? And who really
are we? Instead of a story of separation, Scientific breakthroughs
are now discovering and converging with indigenous and other wisdom
(12:52):
teachings to reveal that our entire universe exists and evolves
as a wholly unified entity, with everything interrelated and interdependent
with everything else, despite its appearance of solidity, though physical reality,
(13:21):
while real, is actually ninety nine point nine nine nine
nine nine nine percent no thingness, and its material appearance
isn't its deeper nature. Evidence at all scales is discovering
(13:48):
that its energy and matter and space and time are
its appearance, not its deeper nature, showing that its appearance
emerges from more fundamental and non physical levels of cosmic
(14:08):
intelligence and causation. Underlying causation and all pervasive cosmic intelligence
that expressing itself as information is the fundamental substance of
our universe. Information though that isn't expressed as random data,
(14:40):
but vitally as meaningful in formation that literally informs all mecoreality,
meaningful information that's expressed in complet elementary ways as the
(15:02):
energy and matter, space and time appearance of our universe,
and as we are learning from the study of black holes,
our entire universe is a vast cosmic hologram. It's homeless,
(15:22):
existing and evolving in the interdependent complexity of its informed
and diverse parts. The alphabet of its informational language is
the simplest possible, with only two letters, one and zero.
(15:46):
Just as in our digitized technologies, they're combined meaningfully to
inform and make up all we call reality, from hydrogen
to stars, to planets and plants and people. Like our
(16:08):
digitized technologies and holograms, universal digitized information is pixelated. The
scale of our universus pixelation, though, is more than a
trillion trillion times smaller than our best high definition technologies,
(16:33):
as small as to the size of an atom, as
an atom is to our entire universe. Named after Max Plank,
one of the greatest pioneers of quantum theory. From the
minute pixelator Plank scale, the holographic appearance of our universe arises.
(16:56):
The relational and dynamic informational patterns and the processes of
its wholeness are being discovered at all scales of existence,
from atoms to planets, to vast clusters of galaxies, to
all of space and time, and through many fields of
(17:21):
research from physics, chemistry, biology, and planetary sciences to studies
of collective human behaviors, all with their complex appearances underpinned
by so named holotropic attractor patterns of information. Instead of
(17:49):
a great object, our universe is being revealed as a
great informational and finite thought in the infinite and eternal
mind mind of the cosmos. We don't have mind and consciousness.
(18:11):
We and the whole world are mind and consciousness. While
we are each unique, we are inseparable from each other,
our planetary home and our entire universe. And we are
(18:32):
each microcosmic co creators of its magnificence and evolutionary impulse.
We are family members of its vast communities of life.
This is who we really are, are unified, conscious, and
(18:59):
essentially living universe not only meaningfully exists, but purposefully involves
its emergence, not random, but continually and informationally guided. By
around five and a half billion years ago, interstellar clouds
(19:22):
of molecular hydrogen, star dust, and ice had evolved to
provide all the complex combinations of elements to birth planetary
systems and enable biological life to emerge. The shockwaves from
the explosion of a nearby star then cause such a
(19:45):
cloud to gravitationally collapse, not in chaos, but into a
proto planetary disk whose harmonically resonant orbits of its emerging
planets surrounding a central protostar would further evolve to form
our Sun and Solar system. Vitally for us, Gia's place
(20:15):
in our planetary family is perfect in the habitable zone,
not too hot and not too cold, but just right
and as a water planet to become a home for
the evolution of biological organisms. Gius sentience is, however, embodied
(20:41):
not only in her biological organisms, but also throughout her
planetary rocks and minerals, waters, and atmosphere that form an
interdependent geiosphere that has nurtured the continuing emergence of complexity
four billion years from the very beginning, unchanged ever since,
(21:10):
and the same throughout all Guia's biosphere. The DNA and
RNA genetic code has informationally enabled their intricate evolution from
the simpler cells to the most complex ecosystems. Crucially, informational
(21:30):
DNA is not passive but responsive to signals and so
able to communicate and express its genes in different ways.
The biological evolution driven not by random mutations, but by
proactive and beneficial responses and adaptations. Meaningful informational processors guide
(21:59):
immerm progence and with collaborative relationships of organisms, ecosystems, and
the entire geiosphere, enabling not only gradual change, but sometimes
radical and rapid transformation. Yet we've forgotten that we're inseparable
(22:28):
from each other, Gaia and our whole universe. As a result,
we've come to a tipping point as a species and
as a planet to evolve to greater complexity. Organisms throughout
Guia's long story have learned to cooperate to survive and thrive.
(22:54):
We can't go on behaving as we have been. We
can learn to come together to be a planetary species
and stewards of our planetary home as Guians. This is
our moment of choice. Based on the evidence, we now
(23:16):
have to remember that we're inseparable and realize too that
our own conscious evolution can play a vital role in
Guia's own evolutionary progress and purpose.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
This is who we can remember we really are. This
is who we can evolve to become. Welcome back, Dr
(24:40):
Jude Co even I want to talk about some of
the evidence that you share. There's a pdf on your website,
on the Whole Worldview website that is really fascinating and
people can go there and download it for themselves. But
there's so much compelling evidence now that shows things like
digitized information, the basis of our most sophisticated technologies, also
(25:07):
underpins and makes up all physical reality. I mean, that's
a bit mind blowing. It is mind blow if you
explain that to me.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Well, one of the reasons Sandy for actually making the
film is that in fourteen minutes, you know, it sort
of takes us through this story, both of that underpinning
and framing and they'll come back to it, but also
the story of our universe and therefore the story of
us from this perspective.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
And you know, we all know what is it?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
A picture tells is worth a thousand words, So you know,
fourteen minutes where we see the evidence, where we're taken
through this story, were invited into this understanding and what
we're also doing in addition to what's already as you
mentioned on Whole Worldview, we're putting together, along with the film,
a gloe of terms, some questions that people might want
(26:04):
to ask themselves or in a schoolroom or whatever it
may be. How does the film make them feel? How
does it help, you know, open their eyes, as it were,
see the world through a new lens. All of that,
and also additional resources that instead of the science of
the unity of science, which you mentioned the PDF four
which gives loads and loads and loads and loads of
(26:27):
examples and references for the evidence, we're going to add
resources to other videos, to you know, other other ways
of exploring this. But basically, yes, the evidence is so
compelling that meaningful information, and this is vital, not just
random data, but meaningful information underpins the appearance of our universe,
(26:53):
appearance of energy and matter and space and time when
we drill down deep and deep and deeper deeper. First
of all, we've known for a long time that the
apparent solidity of the physical universe is an illusion. When
we drill down, it becomes ninety nine followed by twelve
nine percent no things. It's real, but it's incredibly tenuous.
(27:20):
And yet because of the way quantum physics works, which
means that no particle can occupy the same moment in space.
It means that so there's not that merging. It means
that there's that appearance of separation, but it is an illusion.
At the very deepest levels of the causation that arises
(27:44):
as the appearance of our universe are patterns of information,
patterns that are pixelated at the most minute scale of existence,
as the film talks about named after Max Planck, one
of the great pioneers of quantum physics, that tiny scale
with all the ones and the zeros of univers which
(28:04):
is the universal alphabet of themselves, just as in our
digital technologies, the strings of ones and zeros, well, the
ones and zeros themselves don't have a meaning, but when
we bring them together, whether it's in our digital technologies
or as our universe does, they combine meaningfully to then
(28:26):
build up to much larger scales of atoms and molecules
and planets and plants and people. And because the evidence
is showing this across all scales of existence, across many
different fields of research. Again, as the film shares very
briefly but beautifully and therefore I think compellingly in its story,
(28:50):
you are you know, I think We're almost pre We're
almost predisposed because our technologies are based on this. It's
not such a big leap anymore to go, Oh, okay,
the appearance of our universe. This is the basic stuff.
But I really want to stress I am not talking
about our universe being a simulation.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I am not.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Talking about you know, us being the creation of some
advanced detis what I'm talking about here, and we both
know this is that this is showing that mind and
consciousness aren't something we have. They're what literally we and
the whole world are. And it's cosmic mind, cosmic intelligence,
(29:31):
sentience that is actually creating the appearance of our universe
in the simplest and yet most incredible way possible, because
it's from that basic fundamental simplicity that all the wonderful
complexity of our world emerges and evolves.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I mean a lot of people like me, who you know,
didn't go too far into the study of science, find
finds it completely mind blowing. But there's a lot of
things that are in that PDF that really bring it
down to earth, and you know, it speaks to the
world that most of us know. I mean, for example,
you talk about you know that the information gives a
(30:14):
scientific basis to the countless examples of super normal consciousness,
such as telepathy, remote viewing, near death experiences. When people
hear that there is actually scientific evidence for these things,
you know, they sit up and take notice. And that's
not the only things that you've talked about. I mean,
(30:35):
you've talked about the patterns and the fractals which are
reflected in our behaviors, including movements of stock market prices,
email snail mail. Now can you kind of explain how
that all of those things are affected by the cosmos?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Well, we are the cosmos, I mean, we are allegedly inseparable,
as you said earlier, from each other, from our planetary
ung gaia, from literally the whole of our universe, and
what is beautiful and what this evidence is showing and
to say that, you know, what's called universal non locality,
you know, was awarded the Nobel Price of physics in
(31:16):
twenty twenty two and that settled science. So what we're
seeing is a university, as you mentioned earlier, meaningfully exists
to purposefully evolve from simplicity to have a greater complexity.
But it does so as a unitive whole. Now within space, time,
nothing can go no signal can go fasten the speed
(31:37):
of light. And that's vital because otherwise there wouldn't be
a flow of time from the beginning of the universe
nearly fourteen billion years ago. There wouldn't be any causality
within space time. And yet there is the laws of
physics couldn't work. We wouldn't be having this conversation. So
within the space time as we know it, you know,
(31:58):
there is all of that playing out. And yet at
the same time, our universe exists and evolves as this
whole unitive entity, so it knows itself through its entirety
of its life cycle, which also means that there is
awareness that transcends space time, that transcends that limit, the
(32:23):
speed limit.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Of the speed of light.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
That's why supernormal phenomena like telepathe as you say, and
synchronicities our natural phenomena in such a unitive universe. So
it's a both and And this is what really was
the conundrum that has been running for a hundred years
within on war within the mainstream science, because scientists aren't
(32:50):
good at both, and they're great at either ores, but
they're not so great at both ands. And what we're
realizing is that both and both within space time nothing
goes fast as speed of light, and all of that entails.
And also, our universe exists and involves as a unity
of conscious sentient entity, which means that we are microcosmic
(33:13):
co creators, Which means that we are able, with individuated
self awareness, to still be part of its wholeness, which
is why these supernormal phenomena we are naturally able. They
are our heritage, they are they are who we are.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
How can how can these factuals reflect things like internet
traffic and you know, these movements of stock market prices.
I mean, we think we're in control of all of this.
You know we're not. Obviously.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
The beauty is each of us make our own individual choices.
So I'm not going to say that we don't have
free will. I think there's a whole series of nuancewers.
We could have a whole show on the nuancewers of
free will, but I would say no. First of all,
two things I think are really important. The universe began
thirteen point eight billion years ago in its tiniest, simplest state.
(34:09):
Ever since then, as space has expanded and times flowed
more and more and more information has been able to
be expressed and experienced within it. Hence the journey from
simplicity to complexity the evolutionary story to us, the future
is not yet written. The future continues to open in
(34:30):
each moment going forward. So although the laws of physics
remain the same from the beginning of the universe's life
cycle to the end, it's story, just as the story
of a human being, you know, it still has its future,
still has our future to play out. We are its
microcosmic co creators. We have our individual choices. And because
(34:54):
we are and it's this both and and we are
inseparable from its wholeness to get we also play out
depending on the levels of our awareness collectively, and many
other factors play out the same patterns that we find
in what we might call the natural world. So, for example,
(35:14):
as you say, when we look at the Internet, all
the nodes in the Internet, the websites, the URLs, the connectivity,
then we analyze that it has the same fractal patterning
as the relationships within an ecosystem. Yeah, when we look
at at stock market fluctuations, they're very complex, but at
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simpler levels they reflect the same sort of fractal patternings
do coastlines or river systems. When we look, for example,
at the frequency and the destructive power of earthquakes, we
find that they actually when we plot them on a graph,
they have the same relationships as to human conflicts, because
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everything is part of universal sentience, including each of us
and the whole of us. But if we can have
an attractive pattern for conflict, we can involve our collective
consciousness to an attractive pattern for peace.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
And this is what this awakening is about.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
You know, I heard probably something like twenty years ago
that in places where there is a lot of conflict,
a lot of strife, people marching, people getting angry, etc.
You will often find something happens with the earth energy.
I've kind of told people that over the years and
they go, oh, don't be silly. But to see it,
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you know now written in your pdf was wow, it
was true. It is true. It is true.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
And as someone who serves planetary healing, you know, I
know from many decades of experiential research and work here,
you know, when when you go to a battlefield, you
can feel that the human trauma imprinted on it on
an everyday basis. Have you ever walked into someone's home.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
And you know they've just been rowing.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
You just know, yeah, yeah, we talk about cutting the
atmosphere with a knife. Well, yes, and so you know,
given this understanding, of course there are the relationships, whether
they are you know, healthy or not or toxic between
humans and our planetary home. There's some wonderful work that
has been done by a friend of mine, Rolin mccratey
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and heart math. Knowing that our heart resonance has resonance
with Geia, our mind resonance has less of has human
resonance with Guy. We are profoundly interdependent on all of
these levels with our planetary home. So of course when
there is when there is sort of chisms in Guya's
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planetary field, then they can over to human chisms and
vice versa. There is that relationship that is unbreakable. It's
who we are and how we are.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Well, you know, people need to have these concrete examples
and they need to be verified by science for them
to actually believe that what they think and how they
behave is affecting the environment all around them.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Absolutely, as you say, whether we're aware of it or not,
we are always.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Receiving and transmitting information and we're aware of it as well,
which is why these.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Super normal phenomena.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
You know, there's so much evidence, for example, telepathic communications ions.
People like Dean raid and are doing exemporary work in
showing this, but there are many other as I say,
heart math and many other research centers that are bringing
forward the evidence what I'm showing, what we're showing actually
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in that pdf you refer to, aren't those researchers. They're
researchers who are doing, if you like, mainstream work as
we will call it, but are realizing that the old
paradigm and materialism of separation cannot explain their discoveries, cannot
explain their evidence.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's a really interesting time to
be alive, especially those of us who really like to
play where science and spirituality meet, because it's like, finally,
at last, the evidence is there and people you know
can't gainsay it anymore.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
And no they can't.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
I mean I wrote an article, an academic article last October,
and have been off the back of that, I've been
invited to speak at something like twenty or more international
conferences all aren't actually climate change, environmental ecology, you know,
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these sort of things I'm getting very involved, as we've
discussed before, in opportunities to sort of look at transformation
in economics and all across our fields of behaviors and
collective comings together. Because when we come when we see
the world through a lens of separation, we behaved as
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we have been. When we change to see the world
through a lens of wholeness and unity and diversity, we
behave in very different ways.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
We do we do? You know the movie is free
and obviously you know we've played it here. It's available
on YouTube, and I think it's available for worldview. There
are groups all around the world I've heard about that
bring people together in small community to watch and discuss
documentaries just like this one. Do you have a plan
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for such groups to be able to get screeners from you,
you know, to share with you know, their community, et cetera.
Or do you refer everybody to YouTube? It varies.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
If I'm aware of and connecting with various communities, then
then I will have that connection. And there've been a
number of watch parties and watch parties to come and
ongoing in that, and we're we're just inviting and encouraging
everybody who becomes aware of the film to share the
word as widely as possible, because it is freely available
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both to you and to share. Anyone who wants to
connect with me, I can send them an MP four
of the film, and it's in seventeen languages, from.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Arabic to Ukrainian.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
So you know, if anybody I mean, I'm having a
watch party with an institute on the West coast of
America in a couple of weeks time that have a
lot of Asian and Chinese students. The film is subtitled
in Chinese, one of those languages, So anyone who wants
to contact me, I'll also be very happy to send
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them an MP four version of the film, either without
subtitles or with the subtitles of their own community. We've
just just shared it. Alexander Laslow, Irvin's son who lives
in Buenos Aires, who I work with, invited, asked if
he could have the Spanish version, so he's sharing that.
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I've said to him, you can also have the Portuguese version.
The translator who did our Ukrainian version is a teacher
in Kiev, and with everything going on there, she felt
so strongly about the you know, the beneficial nature of
the message of the film to do that, and we're
also producing an educational content, a wrap around that then
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can be used in any which way by any educators
around the world, because the films for young people and
truth seekers of all ages. So there's a lot of.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Work going on.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
But everyone, Sandy, if they see it on YouTube and
like it, please have watched parties, and we want those
questions coming up as well that those watch parties might
like to ask themselves.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
So that's all.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
It's a great thing that you could show to your family.
And I told you so kind of movies, isn't it.
You don't believe me? Watch this.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
I don't want to be to blame for any family.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Well I can think of, you know, many people that
I would like to show it to. And obviously schools.
Schools are natural, you know, for showing a movie like
this and the movie features young people. What was their
reaction to the information they did?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
They did well. There are two lots of young people.
There was a cast who were extraordinary. And I felt
very strongly that I wanted the last words of the
script because when I wrote it, I you know, the
original idea had been that I would be the narrator
for the whole script, and obviously I am for the
majority of it, but I felt so strongly those last
(44:14):
words should be spoken by Jen r heroine, who is
who's the real Dare's faith and the cast exemplary and
the focus group that we also acknowledge in the rolling
credits loved it.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
I mean, we've done a few we've done.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
We did with the five original focus group young people
one two minute quick you know it was filmed at
the time of the focus group by Jessica Botler of
their reaction and what came forward was they're saying things like,
before I watched the movie, I didn't know whether I
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had meaning for purpose.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
I now know that I and I now know that
I belonged. The word belonged came.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Through so powerfully, and we don't even use that word.
I don't think we might do. I think that we
might say once in the movie, but clearly that sense
of belonging is so.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Deep yes in people who've seen with me.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
The other word that goes along with that is the becoming,
because it knows is that you know, there's so much
more yes, and we can be so much Yes. Yes, Absolutely,
that's the exciting part. So what is actually in these
packages that you know, the educational packages. I mean, if
somebody's watching who is a teacher and would love to
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contact you about this, what would they find in these packaging.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Well, first of all, we're going to put everything on
the whole world view when we're ready, and that will
probably be early next year. It's only going to be
it's going to first of all, be a glossary of
terms which may be unfamiliar. Secondly, there'll be the sort
of questions that they might want to invite in an
(46:06):
educational capacity. Thirdly, we're going to put some suggested experiential
fun things to play with some of the concepts. I mean,
one is that if you take our DNA, for example,
our DNA.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Is usually coiled up into a.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Tiny four level fractal within each cell of our bodies.
But if we stretch one sells worth of DNA out,
it's two meters across in a thirty plus trillion body
sell bodies such as each of us have that stretches
across our solar system. One person's DNA for eight billion people,
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the entire DNA of our human family stretches ten times
the visible diameter of our Milky Way galaxy. I mean,
if you take that and start playing with that, but
you know and experiencing that, there's lots of others, so
we'll put that on there as well. And then the
final thing is we will do some sort of other resources.
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So I'll put a whole package on there. It will
be fairly basic because what we're realizing with the film
in seventeen languages, with so many different educational environments that
you know, we're inviting educators, teachers to take that forward
in a way that works best for them and the
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young people in their care. And we're also working with
pioneers of holistic education who themselves have networks and networks
and networks of schools and educators so that they can
tailor whatever they would like for their communities to take
it forward. So that's that's top of our one of
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the things that are top of the you know, the
list of doing at the moment.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
It takes I mean, you know, organizations like schools, you
know that particular industry, it takes them a very long
time to embrace change and to change what they're teaching
and what you're offering probably is quite at odds with
what many kids are currently learning in science and it's
going to keep on changing.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Sure, sure, absolutely, Well this is why it's both and
again because you know, we can speak directly to on
the website and share this you know, the next coupy
two three months with as widely as you can, but
by working with leaders in holistic education, so people like
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the Global Education Futures People and many others, they already
have these sort of these bow Wave initiatives that are
in hundreds of thousands of educational facilities. And obviously what
we will do once we put the what we'll put
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on the whole world View website, we'll also link to
their websites and their organizations.
Speaker 4 (49:06):
So there's a.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
Sort of a mycillium network growing so that if you're
an individual educator, you've got places to go to help
if you're not already part of those networks.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
So that's very.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
Much a key next steps of the project.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
But we just wanted to get the film out there
and start it as a baby, you know, start to.
Speaker 4 (49:33):
Spread by word of mouth.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
So I think we've had about fifteen thousand views in
just over a month. And again it's very quietly finding
its feet and will continue to do that and spread
the world and thank you again over these coming months, and.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
The audience will also share it. I mean, that is
the goal. In the short time that you know, since
you started making this movie science, you know, I mean,
it's changing so fast, we're learning so much. What don't
we yet know that you know that we're going to
it's or even better?
Speaker 4 (50:14):
What don't I know?
Speaker 2 (50:15):
And that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
I think The great thing is this is the direction
of travel. As of yet, there's I've not seen any
evidence that refutes this direction of travel. And you know,
there may be people who don't want to acknowledge this,
but there are leading scientists and more and more leading scientists.
Speaker 4 (50:36):
Who are good.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
They will follow the evidence where it leads, and this
is where it's leading. And so in that regard, I'm
you know, my sense is that it will deepen, it
will broaden, We'll fill in the pieces, but we are
still at the beginning of this incredible adventure because as
you said earlier, Sandy, it's inviting us to really wake
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up to who we really are and who we can become.
And we really don't know who we can become. I
don't know who we become, but I feel it's the
most incredible invitation of the universe to become co evolutionary
partners with its ongoing evolutionary impulse and our beloved planetary
home guyers ongoing evolutionary impulse, because it seems to me
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if we do awaken and move into this great new adventure,
which is also an ancient remembering with our indigenous you know,
kin and communities, nonetheless, it is evolutionary.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
We've never been.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
Here before, and what an incredible opportunity and invitation it is.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah, and you know, we know that we are at
a time where it's almost like the world is splinter
into with so much you know division. What you've said
in that pdf, you know, gives this solid insight into
the fact that how we behave is going to affect
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everything around us. I mean, you look at things like
just the floods in Spain that have been happening, and
you think about what's been happening in Spain, which has
also had its problems for some time, with a lot
of you know, people, uprisings and various things going on.
When we look at that and we look at global warming,
you know, then we have to start taking that to
(52:30):
heart and changing things. Do you feel hopeful confident that
we will get a grip on this?
Speaker 3 (52:40):
I am hopeful, but I'm also I wouldn't necessarily focus
on that.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
I just.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
I trust the universe. I trust that our universe is
both are living and loving universe, And by loving, I
mean because it essentially is whole. It is whole, and
it's taken this incredible journey over fourteen billions of years
to over fourteen billions of years now to get us
(53:10):
to this point. I truly believe it's inviting us to
wake up, to continue on our journey, to continue on
this amazing adventure. And I also feel that if we
don't wake up, Guya will go on without us, The
universe will go on without us. So in that sense,
it's not about hope. It's about for me. It's what
(53:34):
incredible privilege we actually have to be here and now
at this time, What incredible privilege it is to be
a microcosm of this vast wonder that is our universe.
And so with that privilege, how could I not on
a personal level, this is how I feel. How could
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I not show up, get out of the way, and
serve that incredible impulse and that amazing ongoing journey, and
so it doesn't really matter whether I have hope or not,
because that's that's the only way I can respond to
the miracle that is ours and the miracle that is
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our universe.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Do you think you'll make another movie with a be
a sequel?
Speaker 3 (54:23):
I hope so, because this has always been seen as
the first little calling card. There's fourteen minutes and then
with rolling credits sixteen So you know, I really would
love as to be able to work together with a
major global streaming platform to create something like a six
(54:43):
six to one hour episodic series to take this much deeper,
and that then would only be the next step, because
I'd love to then go on and say, okay, now
what then you know, this is it, this is our
amazing reality, but then what do we do about it?
And then going to the stories and the potential and
(55:04):
the possibilities of what that could mean.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
And in the meantime, you're still writing the third book
in your trilogy.
Speaker 3 (55:12):
Well it's not quite getting to the point of writing
me Sandy, but.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
It is just stating I hope.
Speaker 4 (55:21):
So yeah, I hope.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
So, so what is that going to be about? I
know you talked about you know, the first one was
about the cosmos, the second one was about Gaya, and
the third one is going to be about us.
Speaker 4 (55:35):
Yes, can you tell me?
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Many years ago, going back almost the sixty abound the
sixteen years to when the movie idea came through, was
this sense that I would be writing a trilogy at
some point.
Speaker 4 (55:50):
I've written other books before that, of course, and.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
That trilogy would be about transformation, and as you say,
the third book about us, And so the title was given.
Then if it remains, the title is Many Voices, one Heart,
And I realized that the many voices are far, far
far beyond you, beyond human voices, of course, they're the
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voices of the entire universe and its entire vast communities
of life to us and including us, And that one
heart is the heart of the universe, the heart of
the universe, soul.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Jude Caravin, thank you so much for joining us today.
Thank you for making this movie, and I hope that
our viewers will all join in and help to make this,
you know, exceed one million views.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
Thank you, Sandy, and thank you for everyone that's viewing
this and sharing this journey with us.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
Thank you so for more information about Jude Caraven, the
Whole Worldview and the film of Medical Guide to Reality.
Visit three websites. I'm going to give you Whole World
hyphen View dot org. Then there's judcoivn dot com and
Purpose Earth dot org. I'm Sandy, said Beer. I'll be
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back at the same time next week with another addition
of what is going on till then, it's goodbye for
me and once again many thanks to Jude Carabn and
good luck with surpassing that goal.
Speaker 4 (57:22):
Thank you
Welcome to what is going on for New Thought from
the Edge of Arm. Each week on home Time's flagship
radio show, veteran broadcaster, author, and media consultant Sandy Sedgebeer
conducts thought provoking interviews with inspirational authors, artists, musicians, scientists, speakers,
and filmmakers who are working at the point where spirituality
(00:32):
and science meet consciousness, at the very edge of arm.
Here is your host, Sandy Sedgeber.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello, Welcome. In a first for this show, today's episode
will include a screening of the powerful short documentary A
Radical Guide to Reality, which shares how scientific playthroughs are
converging with universal wisdom teachings to reveal that our entire
universe meaningfully exists and purposefully evolves as an interdependent and
(01:07):
a unified entity, and that we're not inseparable from each other,
Gia and the entire universe. Joining me to share the
inspiration behind the film, its goals, and how you can
participate in helping it to smash its target of one
million views is cosmologists, planetary healer and futurist Dr Jude Craven,
(01:31):
who's the award winning author of the books The Cosmic Hologram,
and the story of Gia. Dr Jude Caraven, Welcome back
to the show.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Sandy's always a delight to be with you, and I'm
so gad we're together for what I think, for me
is a very special event.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
This movie was a long time coming.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Well, that was my going to be my opening question. Actually,
you know, because I know that it's a project very
close to your heart and to the heart of the
organization that you co founded, Whole World dot view No
dash view, it's Whole World hyphenview dot org. And in
addition to writing and also narrating the movie and executive
(02:15):
producing it, you know it has taken sixteen years to
make it, you know to the public. So why did
it take so long?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Well, I'm a great believer in perfect timing, even as
you and I both know that can take longer that we.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Might like it too.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I really had the idea for the film, and also
the title for the film, as you mentioned, sixteen years ago.
But I also realized that sixteen years ago I hadn't
written the Cosmic Hologram. By then, I hadn't written the
story of Gaya by Them and the sort of evidence
that really grounds the movie and those books across all
(02:57):
scales of existence and many many different thing fields of research,
which means that we can share its message with really
foundational evidence and authenticity and integrity. Is they weren't fully,
the evidence was not there to the extent that it
is now. And you've seen what the last sixteen years
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has brought in terms of that incredibly increase, incredibly increase
in this evidential base. So the timing is perfect. And also,
as the world is as it is at the moment,
a message that offers I feel, authentic hope and empowerment
and inspiration, a reality that we are inseparable from each other,
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I think is a really important, vital message now. So
I would say the timing is perfect.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Even though.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I was hot to trot as they say, sixteen years ago,
I'm so glad that.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
It is planning to night the books back then or
were they not even in your mind at that point?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Not at that point.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
So it was more of an intention and a dream
than something that you had your eye on, you know,
that could manifest.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It was more of a sense that one day this
will be or that one day this will happen, and
I trust that. I always trust that, and so you know,
over that long period of time. You know, there were
opportunities that might have resulted in the film, but they never.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Came to anything.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
But I just kept going. So it was also a
lesson for me in terms of just keep on keeping on.
You know, if the idea still has validity and it's
how ever greater I think validity, its.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Time will come.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah. So the movie was presented in Oxford's iconic examination hall,
which is interesting because it was presented fifty one years
after you earned your master's degree in the same venue.
That must have been a really sweet moment for you.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
It was sweet and surreal in a way.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, and a very very I mean I remember how
nervous I was in those examination halls fifty one years ago.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
And then now, you.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Know, at the beginning of September, it was just joyous
and we had, you know, over three hundred people participating
the Eurotas conference, and that was hosted by alf Trust
and Les Lancaster, who heads up A Left Trust, is
my co producer for the film, and he and I
introduced it.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
So it's sort of a lovely moment to share.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And that began a whole series of premiers and watch
parties that are ongoing, And thank you again for inviting
me to share this together.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
You know, and with your community.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Who wouldn't want to share it. It is a really
beautiful film, beautifully produced, standing imagery, and you had some
wonderful support, didn't you? Under grant from Purpose Earth to
help fund it and so that you could keep it
free for people. I did.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Purpose Earth were very early supporter of us, but the
main supporter was not Purpose the supporter that really enabled
the film to be as a private foundation, who have
been incredibly wonderful. Purpose are fabulous at offering smaller grants
to startups, but we really needed a full film budget
(06:20):
to make this happen. So it was another foundation and
the fat and the president of whom was in that
room to watch it.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
So that was all so wonderful.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
How did you find the whole? I mean, you're used
to writing books. You know, you've written The Switch. You
narrated the movie and your executive produced it. Quite different
from writing books. How did you find that process?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Do you know? And I don't know ho if you
feel this, but I just love creativity and creative projects.
And for me, the script came straight away and then
I was very fortunate because the sound engineer for the
two audio versions of The Cosmic Hologram and the Story
(07:05):
of Gaya, Nikolai Boglin Brattis, is also an amazing composer,
so he actually composed the music and the soundscape for
the film. But then we needed a director and a photographer,
you know, a director of photography, and he had been
to university with Ivan Morera and Tom Lethwaite, and he
(07:27):
invited and we invited them into the project to be
the project team with Boglin, and my goodness, what a team,
amazing team, and you know, it was very much I
guess my vision and as a director, a lot of
directors I think don't like producers having such a clear vision,
(07:47):
because you know, that's what they do. But it was
such an amazing co creative effort and all of them,
and especially Ivan and Tom, we worked together very closely
for the look of the film and they had some
amazing ideas, incredible graphics and to be honest, the budget
(08:09):
we had the film. Actually, when people have said how
much did it cost, and occasionally I tell them, they're thinking,
it must have cost ten times that amount.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
The thought is that the film would have cost hundreds
of thousands of dollars, and it didn't because of the
commitment of the production team and everybody else working for free,
including myself.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You know, it was a labor of love.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
As you say, yeah, well, we'll watched the film in
a few moments. First, I want to say that you
co founded the Whole Worldview in two thousand and seven seventeen,
and the first words we see on the website are
welcome home, which immediately makes us feel at home. Tell
us before we view the film, what are the goals
(08:54):
of Whole Worldview?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
To serve the understanding, the experience and seeing and the
embodying of unitive awareness. It's really to serve conscious evolution.
It's to serve the remembering. As the right at the
end of the film, our sort of heroine Jen says,
to remember who we really are and who we can
evolve to become. So that's that's the real It's not
(09:21):
the goal. I'm not very good at goals.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
They usually your own goal.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
If I set goals, they usually your own goals.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
So I tend to sort of a tune in a
line with what's flowing through and then aim to serve
it as best I can, And that's the aim and
ongoing game with whole worldview, and it's very much the
aim of the film.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Well, let's watch that movie. Now.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Everything breathes. People breathe, plants, breathe, planets, breathe. Our whole
universe breathes. Our universe began to breathe nearly fourteen billion
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years ago. Instead of the implied chaos of a big bang,
it began as the first moment of a wonderfully fine tuned,
beautifully ordered, and ongoing big breath. Like a baby, it
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was born as simple as possible, to be able to
grow and vitally to evolve as its big breath continued,
with space expanding from its minuscule birth and time flowing
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from past to present to future. Its evolutionary journey from
simplicity to complexity and ever greater levels of diversity and
self awareness lead from hydrogen and helium to stars and galaxies,
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and eventually to planets and plants and people. The hydrogen
in the water of our bodies and in the water
of our planetary home, Geia, is only a few minutes
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younger than our universe. All else that makes up us
and Gia was created in stars billions of years ago.
Our story is the story of our universe. Yet what
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really is the reality of our universe? And who really
are we? Instead of a story of separation, Scientific breakthroughs
are now discovering and converging with indigenous and other wisdom
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teachings to reveal that our entire universe exists and evolves
as a wholly unified entity, with everything interrelated and interdependent
with everything else, despite its appearance of solidity, though physical reality,
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while real, is actually ninety nine point nine nine nine
nine nine nine percent no thingness, and its material appearance
isn't its deeper nature. Evidence at all scales is discovering
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that its energy and matter and space and time are
its appearance, not its deeper nature, showing that its appearance
emerges from more fundamental and non physical levels of cosmic
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intelligence and causation. Underlying causation and all pervasive cosmic intelligence
that expressing itself as information is the fundamental substance of
our universe. Information though that isn't expressed as random data,
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but vitally as meaningful in formation that literally informs all mecoreality,
meaningful information that's expressed in complet elementary ways as the
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energy and matter, space and time appearance of our universe,
and as we are learning from the study of black holes,
our entire universe is a vast cosmic hologram. It's homeless,
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existing and evolving in the interdependent complexity of its informed
and diverse parts. The alphabet of its informational language is
the simplest possible, with only two letters, one and zero.
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Just as in our digitized technologies, they're combined meaningfully to
inform and make up all we call reality, from hydrogen
to stars, to planets and plants and people. Like our
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digitized technologies and holograms, universal digitized information is pixelated. The
scale of our universus pixelation, though, is more than a
trillion trillion times smaller than our best high definition technologies,
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as small as to the size of an atom, as
an atom is to our entire universe. Named after Max Plank,
one of the greatest pioneers of quantum theory. From the
minute pixelator Plank scale, the holographic appearance of our universe arises.
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The relational and dynamic informational patterns and the processes of
its wholeness are being discovered at all scales of existence,
from atoms to planets, to vast clusters of galaxies, to
all of space and time, and through many fields of
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research from physics, chemistry, biology, and planetary sciences to studies
of collective human behaviors, all with their complex appearances underpinned
by so named holotropic attractor patterns of information. Instead of
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a great object, our universe is being revealed as a
great informational and finite thought in the infinite and eternal
mind mind of the cosmos. We don't have mind and consciousness.
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We and the whole world are mind and consciousness. While
we are each unique, we are inseparable from each other,
our planetary home and our entire universe. And we are
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each microcosmic co creators of its magnificence and evolutionary impulse.
We are family members of its vast communities of life.
This is who we really are, are unified, conscious, and
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essentially living universe not only meaningfully exists, but purposefully involves
its emergence, not random, but continually and informationally guided. By
around five and a half billion years ago, interstellar clouds
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of molecular hydrogen, star dust, and ice had evolved to
provide all the complex combinations of elements to birth planetary
systems and enable biological life to emerge. The shockwaves from
the explosion of a nearby star then cause such a
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cloud to gravitationally collapse, not in chaos, but into a
proto planetary disk whose harmonically resonant orbits of its emerging
planets surrounding a central protostar would further evolve to form
our Sun and Solar system. Vitally for us, Gia's place
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in our planetary family is perfect in the habitable zone,
not too hot and not too cold, but just right
and as a water planet to become a home for
the evolution of biological organisms. Gius sentience is, however, embodied
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not only in her biological organisms, but also throughout her
planetary rocks and minerals, waters, and atmosphere that form an
interdependent geiosphere that has nurtured the continuing emergence of complexity
four billion years from the very beginning, unchanged ever since,
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and the same throughout all Guia's biosphere. The DNA and
RNA genetic code has informationally enabled their intricate evolution from
the simpler cells to the most complex ecosystems. Crucially, informational
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DNA is not passive but responsive to signals and so
able to communicate and express its genes in different ways.
The biological evolution driven not by random mutations, but by
proactive and beneficial responses and adaptations. Meaningful informational processors guide
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immerm progence and with collaborative relationships of organisms, ecosystems, and
the entire geiosphere, enabling not only gradual change, but sometimes
radical and rapid transformation. Yet we've forgotten that we're inseparable
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from each other, Gaia and our whole universe. As a result,
we've come to a tipping point as a species and
as a planet to evolve to greater complexity. Organisms throughout
Guia's long story have learned to cooperate to survive and thrive.
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We can't go on behaving as we have been. We
can learn to come together to be a planetary species
and stewards of our planetary home as Guians. This is
our moment of choice. Based on the evidence, we now
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have to remember that we're inseparable and realize too that
our own conscious evolution can play a vital role in
Guia's own evolutionary progress and purpose.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
This is who we can remember we really are. This
is who we can evolve to become. Welcome back, Dr
(24:40):
Jude Co even I want to talk about some of
the evidence that you share. There's a pdf on your website,
on the Whole Worldview website that is really fascinating and
people can go there and download it for themselves. But
there's so much compelling evidence now that shows things like
digitized information, the basis of our most sophisticated technologies, also
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underpins and makes up all physical reality. I mean, that's
a bit mind blowing. It is mind blow if you
explain that to me.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Well, one of the reasons Sandy for actually making the
film is that in fourteen minutes, you know, it sort
of takes us through this story, both of that underpinning
and framing and they'll come back to it, but also
the story of our universe and therefore the story of
us from this perspective.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
And you know, we all know what is it?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
A picture tells is worth a thousand words, So you know,
fourteen minutes where we see the evidence, where we're taken
through this story, were invited into this understanding and what
we're also doing in addition to what's already as you
mentioned on Whole Worldview, we're putting together, along with the film,
a gloe of terms, some questions that people might want
(26:04):
to ask themselves or in a schoolroom or whatever it
may be. How does the film make them feel? How
does it help, you know, open their eyes, as it were,
see the world through a new lens. All of that,
and also additional resources that instead of the science of
the unity of science, which you mentioned the PDF four
which gives loads and loads and loads and loads of
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examples and references for the evidence, we're going to add
resources to other videos, to you know, other other ways
of exploring this. But basically, yes, the evidence is so
compelling that meaningful information, and this is vital, not just
random data, but meaningful information underpins the appearance of our universe,
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appearance of energy and matter and space and time when
we drill down deep and deep and deeper deeper. First
of all, we've known for a long time that the
apparent solidity of the physical universe is an illusion. When
we drill down, it becomes ninety nine followed by twelve
nine percent no things. It's real, but it's incredibly tenuous.
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And yet because of the way quantum physics works, which
means that no particle can occupy the same moment in space.
It means that so there's not that merging. It means
that there's that appearance of separation, but it is an illusion.
At the very deepest levels of the causation that arises
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as the appearance of our universe are patterns of information,
patterns that are pixelated at the most minute scale of existence,
as the film talks about named after Max Planck, one
of the great pioneers of quantum physics, that tiny scale
with all the ones and the zeros of univers which
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is the universal alphabet of themselves, just as in our
digital technologies, the strings of ones and zeros, well, the
ones and zeros themselves don't have a meaning, but when
we bring them together, whether it's in our digital technologies
or as our universe does, they combine meaningfully to then
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build up to much larger scales of atoms and molecules
and planets and plants and people. And because the evidence
is showing this across all scales of existence, across many
different fields of research. Again, as the film shares very
briefly but beautifully and therefore I think compellingly in its story,
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you are you know, I think We're almost pre We're
almost predisposed because our technologies are based on this. It's
not such a big leap anymore to go, Oh, okay,
the appearance of our universe. This is the basic stuff.
But I really want to stress I am not talking
about our universe being a simulation.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
I am not.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Talking about you know, us being the creation of some
advanced detis what I'm talking about here, and we both
know this is that this is showing that mind and
consciousness aren't something we have. They're what literally we and
the whole world are. And it's cosmic mind, cosmic intelligence,
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sentience that is actually creating the appearance of our universe
in the simplest and yet most incredible way possible, because
it's from that basic fundamental simplicity that all the wonderful
complexity of our world emerges and evolves.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I mean a lot of people like me, who you know,
didn't go too far into the study of science, find
finds it completely mind blowing. But there's a lot of
things that are in that PDF that really bring it
down to earth, and you know, it speaks to the
world that most of us know. I mean, for example,
you talk about you know that the information gives a
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scientific basis to the countless examples of super normal consciousness,
such as telepathy, remote viewing, near death experiences. When people
hear that there is actually scientific evidence for these things,
you know, they sit up and take notice. And that's
not the only things that you've talked about. I mean,
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you've talked about the patterns and the fractals which are
reflected in our behaviors, including movements of stock market prices,
email snail mail. Now can you kind of explain how
that all of those things are affected by the cosmos?
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Well, we are the cosmos, I mean, we are allegedly inseparable,
as you said earlier, from each other, from our planetary
ung gaia, from literally the whole of our universe, and
what is beautiful and what this evidence is showing and
to say that, you know, what's called universal non locality,
you know, was awarded the Nobel Price of physics in
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twenty twenty two and that settled science. So what we're
seeing is a university, as you mentioned earlier, meaningfully exists
to purposefully evolve from simplicity to have a greater complexity.
But it does so as a unitive whole. Now within space, time,
nothing can go no signal can go fasten the speed
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of light. And that's vital because otherwise there wouldn't be
a flow of time from the beginning of the universe
nearly fourteen billion years ago. There wouldn't be any causality
within space time. And yet there is the laws of
physics couldn't work. We wouldn't be having this conversation. So
within the space time as we know it, you know,
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there is all of that playing out. And yet at
the same time, our universe exists and evolves as this
whole unitive entity, so it knows itself through its entirety
of its life cycle, which also means that there is
awareness that transcends space time, that transcends that limit, the
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speed limit.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Of the speed of light.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
That's why supernormal phenomena like telepathe as you say, and
synchronicities our natural phenomena in such a unitive universe. So
it's a both and And this is what really was
the conundrum that has been running for a hundred years
within on war within the mainstream science, because scientists aren't
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good at both, and they're great at either ores, but
they're not so great at both ands. And what we're
realizing is that both and both within space time nothing
goes fast as speed of light, and all of that entails.
And also, our universe exists and involves as a unity
of conscious sentient entity, which means that we are microcosmic
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co creators, Which means that we are able, with individuated
self awareness, to still be part of its wholeness, which
is why these supernormal phenomena we are naturally able. They
are our heritage, they are they are who we are.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
How can how can these factuals reflect things like internet
traffic and you know, these movements of stock market prices.
I mean, we think we're in control of all of this.
You know we're not. Obviously.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
The beauty is each of us make our own individual choices.
So I'm not going to say that we don't have
free will. I think there's a whole series of nuancewers.
We could have a whole show on the nuancewers of
free will, but I would say no. First of all,
two things I think are really important. The universe began
thirteen point eight billion years ago in its tiniest, simplest state.
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Ever since then, as space has expanded and times flowed
more and more and more information has been able to
be expressed and experienced within it. Hence the journey from
simplicity to complexity the evolutionary story to us, the future
is not yet written. The future continues to open in
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each moment going forward. So although the laws of physics
remain the same from the beginning of the universe's life
cycle to the end, it's story, just as the story
of a human being, you know, it still has its future,
still has our future to play out. We are its
microcosmic co creators. We have our individual choices. And because
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we are and it's this both and and we are
inseparable from its wholeness to get we also play out
depending on the levels of our awareness collectively, and many
other factors play out the same patterns that we find
in what we might call the natural world. So, for example,
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as you say, when we look at the Internet, all
the nodes in the Internet, the websites, the URLs, the connectivity,
then we analyze that it has the same fractal patterning
as the relationships within an ecosystem. Yeah, when we look
at at stock market fluctuations, they're very complex, but at
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simpler levels they reflect the same sort of fractal patternings
do coastlines or river systems. When we look, for example,
at the frequency and the destructive power of earthquakes, we
find that they actually when we plot them on a graph,
they have the same relationships as to human conflicts, because
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everything is part of universal sentience, including each of us
and the whole of us. But if we can have
an attractive pattern for conflict, we can involve our collective
consciousness to an attractive pattern for peace.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
And this is what this awakening is about.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
You know, I heard probably something like twenty years ago
that in places where there is a lot of conflict,
a lot of strife, people marching, people getting angry, etc.
You will often find something happens with the earth energy.
I've kind of told people that over the years and
they go, oh, don't be silly. But to see it,
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you know now written in your pdf was wow, it
was true. It is true. It is true.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
And as someone who serves planetary healing, you know, I
know from many decades of experiential research and work here,
you know, when when you go to a battlefield, you
can feel that the human trauma imprinted on it on
an everyday basis. Have you ever walked into someone's home.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
And you know they've just been rowing.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
You just know, yeah, yeah, we talk about cutting the
atmosphere with a knife. Well, yes, and so you know,
given this understanding, of course there are the relationships, whether
they are you know, healthy or not or toxic between
humans and our planetary home. There's some wonderful work that
has been done by a friend of mine, Rolin mccratey
(37:33):
and heart math. Knowing that our heart resonance has resonance
with Geia, our mind resonance has less of has human
resonance with Guy. We are profoundly interdependent on all of
these levels with our planetary home. So of course when
there is when there is sort of chisms in Guya's
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planetary field, then they can over to human chisms and
vice versa. There is that relationship that is unbreakable. It's
who we are and how we are.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Well, you know, people need to have these concrete examples
and they need to be verified by science for them
to actually believe that what they think and how they
behave is affecting the environment all around them.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Absolutely, as you say, whether we're aware of it or not,
we are always.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Receiving and transmitting information and we're aware of it as well,
which is why these.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Super normal phenomena.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
You know, there's so much evidence, for example, telepathic communications ions.
People like Dean raid and are doing exemporary work in
showing this, but there are many other as I say,
heart math and many other research centers that are bringing
forward the evidence what I'm showing, what we're showing actually
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in that pdf you refer to, aren't those researchers. They're
researchers who are doing, if you like, mainstream work as
we will call it, but are realizing that the old
paradigm and materialism of separation cannot explain their discoveries, cannot
explain their evidence.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's a really interesting time to
be alive, especially those of us who really like to
play where science and spirituality meet, because it's like, finally,
at last, the evidence is there and people you know
can't gainsay it anymore.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
And no they can't.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
I mean I wrote an article, an academic article last October,
and have been off the back of that, I've been
invited to speak at something like twenty or more international
conferences all aren't actually climate change, environmental ecology, you know,
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these sort of things I'm getting very involved, as we've
discussed before, in opportunities to sort of look at transformation
in economics and all across our fields of behaviors and
collective comings together. Because when we come when we see
the world through a lens of separation, we behaved as
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we have been. When we change to see the world
through a lens of wholeness and unity and diversity, we
behave in very different ways.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
We do we do? You know the movie is free
and obviously you know we've played it here. It's available
on YouTube, and I think it's available for worldview. There
are groups all around the world I've heard about that
bring people together in small community to watch and discuss
documentaries just like this one. Do you have a plan
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for such groups to be able to get screeners from you,
you know, to share with you know, their community, et cetera.
Or do you refer everybody to YouTube? It varies.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
If I'm aware of and connecting with various communities, then
then I will have that connection. And there've been a
number of watch parties and watch parties to come and
ongoing in that, and we're we're just inviting and encouraging
everybody who becomes aware of the film to share the
word as widely as possible, because it is freely available
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both to you and to share. Anyone who wants to
connect with me, I can send them an MP four
of the film, and it's in seventeen languages, from.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Arabic to Ukrainian.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
So you know, if anybody I mean, I'm having a
watch party with an institute on the West coast of
America in a couple of weeks time that have a
lot of Asian and Chinese students. The film is subtitled
in Chinese, one of those languages, So anyone who wants
to contact me, I'll also be very happy to send
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them an MP four version of the film, either without
subtitles or with the subtitles of their own community. We've
just just shared it. Alexander Laslow, Irvin's son who lives
in Buenos Aires, who I work with, invited, asked if
he could have the Spanish version, so he's sharing that.
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I've said to him, you can also have the Portuguese version.
The translator who did our Ukrainian version is a teacher
in Kiev, and with everything going on there, she felt
so strongly about the you know, the beneficial nature of
the message of the film to do that, and we're
also producing an educational content, a wrap around that then
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can be used in any which way by any educators
around the world, because the films for young people and
truth seekers of all ages. So there's a lot of.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Work going on.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
But everyone, Sandy, if they see it on YouTube and
like it, please have watched parties, and we want those
questions coming up as well that those watch parties might
like to ask themselves.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
So that's all.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
It's a great thing that you could show to your family.
And I told you so kind of movies, isn't it.
You don't believe me? Watch this.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
I don't want to be to blame for any family.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Well I can think of, you know, many people that
I would like to show it to. And obviously schools.
Schools are natural, you know, for showing a movie like
this and the movie features young people. What was their
reaction to the information they did?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
They did well. There are two lots of young people.
There was a cast who were extraordinary. And I felt
very strongly that I wanted the last words of the
script because when I wrote it, I you know, the
original idea had been that I would be the narrator
for the whole script, and obviously I am for the
majority of it, but I felt so strongly those last
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words should be spoken by Jen r heroine, who is
who's the real Dare's faith and the cast exemplary and
the focus group that we also acknowledge in the rolling
credits loved it.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
I mean, we've done a few we've done.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
We did with the five original focus group young people
one two minute quick you know it was filmed at
the time of the focus group by Jessica Botler of
their reaction and what came forward was they're saying things like,
before I watched the movie, I didn't know whether I
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had meaning for purpose.
Speaker 4 (44:58):
I now know that I and I now know that
I belonged. The word belonged came.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Through so powerfully, and we don't even use that word.
I don't think we might do. I think that we
might say once in the movie, but clearly that sense
of belonging is so.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
Deep yes in people who've seen with me.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
The other word that goes along with that is the becoming,
because it knows is that you know, there's so much
more yes, and we can be so much Yes. Yes, Absolutely,
that's the exciting part. So what is actually in these
packages that you know, the educational packages. I mean, if
somebody's watching who is a teacher and would love to
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contact you about this, what would they find in these packaging.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
Well, first of all, we're going to put everything on
the whole world view when we're ready, and that will
probably be early next year. It's only going to be
it's going to first of all, be a glossary of
terms which may be unfamiliar. Secondly, there'll be the sort
of questions that they might want to invite in an
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educational capacity. Thirdly, we're going to put some suggested experiential
fun things to play with some of the concepts. I mean,
one is that if you take our DNA, for example,
our DNA.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
Is usually coiled up into a.
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Tiny four level fractal within each cell of our bodies.
But if we stretch one sells worth of DNA out,
it's two meters across in a thirty plus trillion body
sell bodies such as each of us have that stretches
across our solar system. One person's DNA for eight billion people,
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the entire DNA of our human family stretches ten times
the visible diameter of our Milky Way galaxy. I mean,
if you take that and start playing with that, but
you know and experiencing that, there's lots of others, so
we'll put that on there as well. And then the
final thing is we will do some sort of other resources.
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So I'll put a whole package on there. It will
be fairly basic because what we're realizing with the film
in seventeen languages, with so many different educational environments that
you know, we're inviting educators, teachers to take that forward
in a way that works best for them and the
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young people in their care. And we're also working with
pioneers of holistic education who themselves have networks and networks
and networks of schools and educators so that they can
tailor whatever they would like for their communities to take
it forward. So that's that's top of our one of
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the things that are top of the you know, the
list of doing at the moment.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
It takes I mean, you know, organizations like schools, you
know that particular industry, it takes them a very long
time to embrace change and to change what they're teaching
and what you're offering probably is quite at odds with
what many kids are currently learning in science and it's
going to keep on changing.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Sure, sure, absolutely, Well this is why it's both and
again because you know, we can speak directly to on
the website and share this you know, the next coupy
two three months with as widely as you can, but
by working with leaders in holistic education, so people like
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the Global Education Futures People and many others, they already
have these sort of these bow Wave initiatives that are
in hundreds of thousands of educational facilities. And obviously what
we will do once we put the what we'll put
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on the whole world View website, we'll also link to
their websites and their organizations.
Speaker 4 (49:06):
So there's a.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
Sort of a mycillium network growing so that if you're
an individual educator, you've got places to go to help
if you're not already part of those networks.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
So that's very.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
Much a key next steps of the project.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
But we just wanted to get the film out there
and start it as a baby, you know, start to.
Speaker 4 (49:33):
Spread by word of mouth.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
So I think we've had about fifteen thousand views in
just over a month. And again it's very quietly finding
its feet and will continue to do that and spread
the world and thank you again over these coming months, and.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
The audience will also share it. I mean, that is
the goal. In the short time that you know, since
you started making this movie science, you know, I mean,
it's changing so fast, we're learning so much. What don't
we yet know that you know that we're going to
it's or even better?
Speaker 4 (50:14):
What don't I know?
Speaker 2 (50:15):
And that's a lot.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
I think The great thing is this is the direction
of travel. As of yet, there's I've not seen any
evidence that refutes this direction of travel. And you know,
there may be people who don't want to acknowledge this,
but there are leading scientists and more and more leading scientists.
Speaker 4 (50:36):
Who are good.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
They will follow the evidence where it leads, and this
is where it's leading. And so in that regard, I'm
you know, my sense is that it will deepen, it
will broaden, We'll fill in the pieces, but we are
still at the beginning of this incredible adventure because as
you said earlier, Sandy, it's inviting us to really wake
(50:59):
up to who we really are and who we can become.
And we really don't know who we can become. I
don't know who we become, but I feel it's the
most incredible invitation of the universe to become co evolutionary
partners with its ongoing evolutionary impulse and our beloved planetary
home guyers ongoing evolutionary impulse, because it seems to me
(51:22):
if we do awaken and move into this great new adventure,
which is also an ancient remembering with our indigenous you know,
kin and communities, nonetheless, it is evolutionary.
Speaker 4 (51:37):
We've never been.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
Here before, and what an incredible opportunity and invitation it is.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah, and you know, we know that we are at
a time where it's almost like the world is splinter
into with so much you know division. What you've said
in that pdf, you know, gives this solid insight into
the fact that how we behave is going to affect
(52:05):
everything around us. I mean, you look at things like
just the floods in Spain that have been happening, and
you think about what's been happening in Spain, which has
also had its problems for some time, with a lot
of you know, people, uprisings and various things going on.
When we look at that and we look at global warming,
you know, then we have to start taking that to
(52:30):
heart and changing things. Do you feel hopeful confident that
we will get a grip on this?
Speaker 3 (52:40):
I am hopeful, but I'm also I wouldn't necessarily focus
on that.
Speaker 2 (52:46):
I just.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
I trust the universe. I trust that our universe is
both are living and loving universe, And by loving, I
mean because it essentially is whole. It is whole, and
it's taken this incredible journey over fourteen billions of years
to over fourteen billions of years now to get us
(53:10):
to this point. I truly believe it's inviting us to
wake up, to continue on our journey, to continue on
this amazing adventure. And I also feel that if we
don't wake up, Guya will go on without us, The
universe will go on without us. So in that sense,
it's not about hope. It's about for me. It's what
(53:34):
incredible privilege we actually have to be here and now
at this time, What incredible privilege it is to be
a microcosm of this vast wonder that is our universe.
And so with that privilege, how could I not on
a personal level, this is how I feel. How could
(53:55):
I not show up, get out of the way, and
serve that incredible impulse and that amazing ongoing journey, and
so it doesn't really matter whether I have hope or not,
because that's that's the only way I can respond to
the miracle that is ours and the miracle that is
(54:17):
our universe.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Do you think you'll make another movie with a be
a sequel?
Speaker 3 (54:23):
I hope so, because this has always been seen as
the first little calling card. There's fourteen minutes and then
with rolling credits sixteen So you know, I really would
love as to be able to work together with a
major global streaming platform to create something like a six
(54:43):
six to one hour episodic series to take this much deeper,
and that then would only be the next step, because
I'd love to then go on and say, okay, now
what then you know, this is it, this is our
amazing reality, but then what do we do about it?
And then going to the stories and the potential and
(55:04):
the possibilities of what that could mean.
Speaker 2 (55:08):
And in the meantime, you're still writing the third book
in your trilogy.
Speaker 3 (55:12):
Well it's not quite getting to the point of writing
me Sandy, but.
Speaker 2 (55:18):
It is just stating I hope.
Speaker 4 (55:21):
So yeah, I hope.
Speaker 2 (55:22):
So, so what is that going to be about? I
know you talked about you know, the first one was
about the cosmos, the second one was about Gaya, and
the third one is going to be about us.
Speaker 4 (55:35):
Yes, can you tell me?
Speaker 3 (55:39):
Many years ago, going back almost the sixty abound the
sixteen years to when the movie idea came through, was
this sense that I would be writing a trilogy at
some point.
Speaker 4 (55:50):
I've written other books before that, of course, and.
Speaker 3 (55:53):
That trilogy would be about transformation, and as you say,
the third book about us, And so the title was given.
Then if it remains, the title is Many Voices, one Heart,
And I realized that the many voices are far, far
far beyond you, beyond human voices, of course, they're the
(56:13):
voices of the entire universe and its entire vast communities
of life to us and including us, And that one
heart is the heart of the universe, the heart of
the universe, soul.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Jude Caravin, thank you so much for joining us today.
Thank you for making this movie, and I hope that
our viewers will all join in and help to make this,
you know, exceed one million views.
Speaker 3 (56:42):
Thank you, Sandy, and thank you for everyone that's viewing
this and sharing this journey with us.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
Thank you so for more information about Jude Caraven, the
Whole Worldview and the film of Medical Guide to Reality.
Visit three websites. I'm going to give you Whole World
hyphen View dot org. Then there's judcoivn dot com and
Purpose Earth dot org. I'm Sandy, said Beer. I'll be
(57:11):
back at the same time next week with another addition
of what is going on till then, it's goodbye for
me and once again many thanks to Jude Carabn and
good luck with surpassing that goal.
Speaker 4 (57:22):
Thank you
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