Crossing the Rubicon – Discovering What It Means to be Human with Pam Gregory - What is Going OM with Sandie Sedgbeer

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to what is going on for new thought from
the Edge of Arm. Each week on home Time's flagship
radio show, veteran broadcaster, author, and media consultant Sandy Sedgebeer
conducts thought provoking interviews with inspirational authors, artists, musicians, scientists, speakers,
and filmmakers who are working at the point where spirituality

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and science meet consciousness, at the very edge of arm.
Here is your host, Sandy sedge.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello, and welcome. Dynamic, fast paced, event packed, and utterly extraordinary.
Twenty twenty five has scarcely begun, yet it's already etched
its place in history. These seismic first weeks are undeniable
proof that we've truly crossed the Rubican and the unexpected

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is now the norm. We're navigating uncharted territory where reality
with shapes itself faster than ever, and in an era
of profound transformation with no turning back. The big question
is what can we expect moving forward? Joining me today
is internationally renowned astrologer Pam Gregory, whose deep knowledge, meticulous research,

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and profound insights into what is unfolding and what lies
ahead offer clarity and comfort to hundreds of thousands of
followers in these extraordinary times. Pam, welcome back to the show.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, delighted to be with you again. Sandy, thank you
so much for inviting me. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I'm I mean that really truly captures the events of
the past three weeks, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
And we're just starting, yeah, and it's not going to
slow up anytime soon. So we really more than ever,
have to slow down ourselves because it's going to be
dizzy and it's going to be kind of whiplash, you know.
You think it's going to be this way, thing's going
to be that, and we're just going to be so
jazzed up in our nervous system that it's going to

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be quite hard to keep so turning with book, stillness, meetings,
breath work, bare feet on the earth, weather permitting, all
that kind of thing that I talk about really more
than ever.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, Yeah, how do you think that this concept of
no turning back influences, you know, the collective decision making
and the choices that we're facing. I mean, it must
be pretty scary to know that we've come this far,
which is what we wanted, but we can't undo it.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Absolutely. This is a one way, a one way process.
And I think if you if you're watching the news,
if you're watching kind of current events, it is, it's
going to feel very scary because you think, I want
to you know, it's the first law of wing walking,
isn't it. Don't let go of what you're hanging on
until you're hanging on to something else. So the instinct

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when you're in fear is to want to go back
to the familiar, to have permanency and reliability and stability.
But that's disintegrating before our very eyes, and so that's
quite a scary place to be. So for me, the
only way out of this is shifting your focus and
changing your frequency as the only way out of this,

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because if we can turn that panic, anxiety, fear into
excitement for what's coming, the people who are focused on
the excitement of this not just transformation, but complete metamorphosis
for humanity, we're going to become ultimately a new species,
not this year, but it's the beginning of a process.

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Then it becomes immensely exciting because we've got the most
blank canvas we've ever had to create our future. So
rather than going do you know that's terrified, grasp the
opportunity because It really is a wants in humanities many lifetimes,
I believe opportunity that we're in right now. It's never

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going to be the predictable go to school, go to college,
meet someone, get married, you know, have a job, by
a house. We're into very different territory now.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yes, it's such interesting because we all want to evolve,
we all want to expand, and here we have this
opportunity to really you know, i know, polish up our adaptability.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah for sure, Yeah, yeah sure.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
And it's interesting too that we've got a nine year
year of completion and we've also got the Wood Snake,
and you've been talking about that and what that might
potentially signify as well. Tell us a little bit about
these these you know, all of these forces that seem
to be it's almost like they've been marshaled. You know,

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there's this grand plan and everything. You know, the army
is convert Urgin and it's ready to start moving forward.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah. It's really amazing because it's the same message repeated
again and again and again about endings and beginnings. It's
a nine year that's very much the number of endings.
The Wood Snake. I don't know much about the Wood element,
because I'm not familiar with Chinese astrology, but certainly the
snake is a symbol of transformation because it sheds the
skin and never takes back that old skin again. It's

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a whole new skin for it to move forward. So
it's very much a symbol of transformation. And it's very
much a simple link to Pluto actually, and Pluto's incredibly
powerful this year. And if you look at we were
just chatting about this before recording, if you look at
huge cycles of time like the end of the processional
cycle or the end of the calle Juga cycle, we're

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dealing with, you know, twenty four thousand year cycles. We're
dealing with twelve thousand year cycles. There's so many major cycles,
and you can bring it right down to Okay, let's
look at the the astrology of the moment. Well, in
the next fifteen months, all of the outer planets are
changing sign and you have to go back at least

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three hundred years when that happened before, but there weren't
the same number as we've got right now. So you've
got all that. And if we can go to much
smaller cycles like the eleven year sunspot cycle, we're at
the peak of solar cycle twenty five, so everything is
converging and peaking and ending and beginning in a kind
of tumultuous symphony, if you like. And that can feel

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very destabilizing, because it's almost like we're we're trying to
build a new house while the old one on the
same site is still being demolished. So it's messy, it's chaotic,
but nevertheless, a whole new divine human, I think, is

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starting to emerge. And it's just the very beginning of it.
And I've been talking to rich should rud about his
beautiful analogy of the dragonfly, which is a complete metamorphosis
that this water nymph, which is a predator and lives underwater,
just one afternoon, decides it's going to climb up the

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stalk of grass and starts to emerge. And it's actually
the very interestingly, it's the hydraulic force of the water
in its body that pumps up its wings and within
hours the dragonfly then becomes a creature of the air
and never ever goes back underwater. And this is the process,

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this is the scale of the process that we're beginning
right now. And doctor wonderful Dr Zach Bush as well
as Richard Rudd and Lee Lee Harris, a friend of yours,
all are starting to talk about this new human, this
future human that has you, and we have a new
biology starting to emerge. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I can

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see it in the astrology too.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah. And what's so interesting is things that would have
been dismissed are completely ignored or pooh pooed even just
five years ago, as suddenly you know, exploding in the mainstream.
I mean, the telepathy tapes, all of these topics, the channels,
you know, the technologies, the galactic communication. You know, people

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are taking it seriously now.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, And I think the galactic connection is one of
the big, big game changes. So you know, from my
point of view, in astrology so often it and I've
done it all my career as well. We go back
to the previous cycles and what happened then and what
can we intelligently predict in today's circumstances that will repeat again.
But the galactic connection is one of the really big

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game changes because we haven't had that in many, many lifetimes.
And as you say, Sandy, you're speaking to people who
are connected to the galactic beings. I've had a wonderful
interview last week with doctor David Clements, who has been
guided by galactic beings and even beyond our galaxy. He
was saying, to make amazing technology which is regenerative. Yes,

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lots of people channel galactic being you know, this is
this is a whole new era of reminding us that
we are also galactic citizens. We are not just humans,
we are galactic citizens. And that's going to be amazing. Mm.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
You know, it's so interesting in watching the polarization that's
taken place over the last few years. You know this
it's almost like we're going into two divisions, two timelines
where we're seeing, you know, one thing over there, another
over here. And you know, even looking at I was
looking up the wood snake, it's it's about secrets and

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it's about revelations. So it's like we'll, you know, we're
flipping all the time. So it's astonishing to think where
that might lead us.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Oh, I think it's it's going to be absolutely huge.
And you know, almost everything we've understood and been taught
about our world I think is going to change. I
think it's going to be very different. And you're absolutely right.
This is a massive year of truth of revelation. That's
why it's going to be so fast moving and shocking

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and stunning and head spinning for people who are not
a work. But I think even the history of humanity
we're going to discover is very, very different from what
we've thought, and it's going to come kind of rapid fire,
starting starting any minute. Actually, it's going to become very
rapid fire. And so we have to each of us

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find our own stability, our own anchor, our own center,
and things like frequency and coherence, heart coherence are going
to matter more than they ever have in the past
because they're going to become our anchors.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, you know, you've become a wonderful source not only
of astrology, you know, information, but you find all these
amazing people who are now coming forth all the new technologies,
and you know, you've done some wonderful conversations with people
that have been introduced to the mainstream. How do you

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find all these people?

Speaker 3 (11:18):
You know? Say, I honestly, I honestly don't know. Sometimes
people send me videos and say, you know, you've got
to watch this, But I get forty of those a day,
and you know, I could spend all day just watching
you know, I've got other things to do, but just
occasionally I'm drawn to watch one or two of them.
I think, wow, you know, this person's a genius and
they're working in their back garage and you know, need
to launch them into the world. And sometimes it's people

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who write to me. Nancy Rebecca was someone who wrote
to me about her galactic connections and the Blue Light
beings and wow, yes, this is fascinating. So and Vader's
work I hooked onto a few years ago and I thought,
my goodness, this is this is paradigm shattering stuff. And
so sometimes it's my own discovery. Other times it's people

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writing to me. Other times that's you've got to watch
this video. But Nancy Rebecca actually said, she said, you
are very good at finding completely obscure people and kind
of digging them out of their hole, saying, no, you're
going to be launched on the world whether you like
it or not. You know, buckle up. So it's going
to get it's going to get very busy. So it's
great though, because they've each of them have I feel,

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have got a very unique voice and a very important
voice in today's world because we are and I've been
saying this, the last two years, we're moving into paradigm
shattering times, and I think the Telepathy tapes, which you know,
you and I have chatted, is a great example of
shattering paradigms.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
That's very aquarium, absolutely, and you know it's just it's
just so rewarding, especially you know, when you've been around
as long as we have, and you know, to be
able to support these people who just have, you know,
this incredible knowledge that humanity really needs to know about.
I mean, that's something that's driven me in all of

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my shows. I like to you know, champion the underdog,
and I know that you know clearly you like to
push people out there, but my goodness, I expect some
of them must. You're going to have to issue a
warning because you know they're going to blow up and
they need to be prepared for it.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yes, you're going to be awfully busy from this point on.
Note any But I mean, the telepathy tapes are a
beautiful example of the aquarian energy. Because the aquarian energy is,
you know, the outsider, the one who doesn't fit. It
can be quite cool or emotionally appear to be emotionally detached.
They're kind of disregarded, you know, on the periphery of society,

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often connected to youth, to young people, and often connected
to genius. Yes, people who bring innovations or genius thinking
into society. And what a great example the Telepathy Tapes
were for those people who haven't heard about them. This began,
I think with an American female child PS psychiatrist who

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was working with severely autistic, nonverbal young people, children and
young people, and she was discovering their genius and of
course she was struck off as a result. But a
filmmaker became very interested in her work and produced the
Telepathy Tapes, which I'd recommend to anyone. I think it's
just in audio form at the moment, Andy, it.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Is just in audio form, and I think they're coming
to the end of their current series, but they'll be
back with another one soon. And what they are doing,
I mean, there are you know. I don't know whether
I should be telling this, but I know that Kai
is working with Susie Miller, who's been talking to these
kids for nyon thirty years, and they're looking, you know,

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at people who are offering them funding to start special
educational places, schools, whatever you want, you know, I don't
know what you want to call. It's centers where these
kids will be fully supported and you know, I mean
their genius. I've kind of been on the periphery of

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that area for a long time and some of the
things I've heard and scene are just mind shattering, and
it's so lovely to watch other people now saying Okay,
you know I get it, I believe it, I'm seeing it.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Yeah, these are our teachers, and they're calling them savants,
you know, wise beings. It was wonderful And in that series,
my favorite episode was actually the Telepathic Parrot, which just
made me laugh so much. So it isn't just people.
We know, our pets, our dogs and cats can kind
of read where we're at, and that opens up a

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whole era of telepathy between all living beings, yes, and
trees and plants and birds and you know, I mean
that was hilarious and so so touching. Actually, the Telepathic Parrot,
I thought that everybody's going to listen to that just
it was delightful. But it opens up a whole realm
of we are one living content. Yeah, and we just

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can'tfully realized.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
I remember having a conversation with Professor William Tiller, who
was one of the featured physicists in What the Bleep
several years ago, and he was talking about the Internet,
and he said, the Internet and our ability to communicate
to social media is just the first step to opening

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us up to telepathy.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Absolutely one. We've got the external gadgets right now, but
they're kind of training wheels, and that's absolutely where we're headed.
But we are going to shift from the mind of
the heart and it's going to become a kind of
a thinking heart or a very wise heart, so there'll
be less and less needful for language and speaking in

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the way that we always have. You know, this has
been the information age, hasn't it The age of the
mind and TikTok and Twitter and thought attention spans. That's
all going to shift as we move into the heart.
We will feel other people's energy, will feel where they're at,
and that's why it'll be impossible to be dishonest to lie,
because we'll just read each other's energy in a much

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more transparent way.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Which we're moving toward with so many people really understanding
the power of their intuition.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, that's going to come up big, big, big time.
And the more. We can tune into the heart and
again operate from the and this is something I've banged
on about for years, but operate from the inside out
rather than the outside in. We're going to fine tune
that intuition because if we're living from the outside in,
we are going to just be not sideways I think,

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with the amount of information, of contradictory information. But we're
going this way knows zig zaggag and that way knows
zig zaggreg is. You're not going to be able to cope.
It's going to be too jazzed up. But if you
if you turn inwards, really you get into much more
of a one pointed focus. There's one thing to focus
on rather than a thousand things out there. And that

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helps you keep saying, It helps you keep stable, it
helps your focus, and that is going to become our
operating center, like our radio dial. And we're really going
to achieve mastery of our emotions and our frequency in
a bigger way than we ever have once we do that.
And it's simple stuff, it's nothing complicated. It's all the

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stuff I talk about, you know, berefeet on the earth,
how good tree, laugh with the friend, how good child,
did breath work, candlework, candle gazing, all of this incredibly
simple stuff to bring you back, bring you back to center.
And I know you picked up on this, Sandy, but
you know, in a world where misery is encouraged, love

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and joy can be acts of defiance. And I think
that's really that. I love that.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
I mean, so many people I hear saying I want
to do something?

Speaker 3 (19:03):
What can I do?

Speaker 2 (19:05):
And we don't think that something as simple as this
is the most important thing that they could do.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, yeah, lovely out loud because what you're yeah, yeah,
you know, love more loudly. And it's what it's what
we are broadcasting as an energy and a frequency that
will infect the collective because if you think, you know
the horrors that are going all right, you know, the
wars and the suffering and the fires in California that

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cause such devastation, and you know, it's just horrendous, and
you think, what can I do? You know, I can't
deliver aid, I'm thousands of miles away. If I send
money is reaching the people? What can I do?

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Well?

Speaker 3 (19:47):
One of the things you can do. And Lynn McTaggart
is the queen of intention in demonstrating this. She's she's
got a big piece meditation actually coming up on the
first affair you may know. And she's got an evidence
tab on her website of the evidence of what her
meditations have done. All of us can do that for
free at home. All of us can send love, joy, peace, gratitude,

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compassion to change the world, to change our future timeline.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yeah. Well, the power of prayer has been demonstrated over
and over and over. Yeah. Of all the things that
are emerging, and there's so many of them, what's exciting
you the most?

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Oh, I think it's this idea of the new human,
the future human. I think it is, and that excites
me greatly. Plus the solutions, the boggling solutions that principally
young people are coming up with. On my Facebook, I've

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got two pages on Facebook, and every day, at least
once but often several times, I'm posting brilliant innovations, often
from school children who are taking an issue like poe
or you know, microplastics or whatever and turning them into
something amazing. I mean, I just read one today. There's

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a young chap I think he's about fourteen, and he
has discovered that Comfrey the herb comfrey is just as good,
if not better, a fertilizer to grow crops than chemical fertilizer.
You know, it's just simple. And these kids are winning
science prizes at the age of twelve, so you know,

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it's aquarium ergy, it's youth, it's innovation. So that excites
me enormously. And I think I think devices, healing devices,
frequency devices are going to really sort out disease. They're
going to increase our longevity, They're going to turn our
age back. And again I'm thinking astrologically there of HOMEA

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principally also SEDNA, and these are going to be so exciting.
But I think we have to throw ourselves into that
timeline because for me, there are two very clear timelines.
One is much more technological and synthetic and the other

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is much more natural and organic. So one of them
is about you know, the latest Apple or Google virtual
reality goggles and having a neurolink and getting nanobots to
go around your body and clear up any disease. You
just have to take a peel to get all your nutrition.
You know that kind of timeline or are you going
to be kind of sticking your hands in the soil

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and going back to growing your own food, biodynamic farming,
getting together with a group of people who love that
and want to do that. And I've often used the
analogy of you're at a big airport and you've either
chosen fast track or slow track. We're both going to
get on the same plane of unity consciousness at the
end of the day, but we're taking very different routes

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to do that. And I know which route I'm going
to be on the bumpkin path. Yeah, absolutely, I'll be
there with you.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah. You know, it's interesting what you're taught saying about
the young innovators because I think the you know, the
Generation Alpha now they're calling you know, the demographic cohort
that succeeding Generation Z or Z and they were from
twenty thirteen to the mid mid twenty twenties, I think,

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and to call them Generation Alpha, I mean that word alone,
you know, is the first, the beginning, the you know,
it's amazing how all of this, you know, the little
pieces that you'd pass over at all, pieces of the puzzle.
They're telling us a story.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yeah, and the young people are going to be our
teachers again. On social media occasionally catch some really young
people who are kind of three, four five years old,
and the parent, you know, the mom can ask them
about what is God and what is source and what
is soul and they're just go into this soliloquy that
you think, blimey, you know, wow, they really are our teachers,

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that they're wired differently. But that's where we are headed.
We are changing our internal biology. And Greg Braden and
Cryon I both talked about the reactivation of our twenty
fourth chromosome. But it's the interaction of the particular cosmic
forces because we're going through the Earth is moving through
the galactic current sheet, which it only does every twelve

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thousand years. You know, it's another big, big cycle. And
the interaction of the cosmic energy and the very high
frequency light is interacting with our DNA to bring it
back online to make us more multi dimensionality or remind
us how multi dimensional we are, and then you're into
complete game changer territory total. So I think it will

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be very hard to predict what is day to day
life going to be like even three years down the
road going to be completely difficult.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, you know, I mean it's shaped just one little thing,
you know, with the rise of technology, and you've talked
about the you know, robots et cetera. If they're going
to be taking over work, and you know we've got
AI that's you know, many journalists are just fading away
because of it. What's going to happen to workers? What's

(25:21):
going to happen? How are people going to be earning
their living? What do you see there?

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Well, that's yeah, it's a very big question. And I
was actually writing about this way back in twenty thirteen.
But it's a very big question because that starts to
change the socioeconomic structure. And does that mean that the
government will give us sort of a universal handout? And
what does that mean in terms of obligations, et cetera.

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So I think there's some huge, huge ethical questions, and
I think those people who wish to will more more
and more break away and think, actually, if we model
to some extent society on indigenous societies, they have an
incredibly healthy way of living. I mean, they don't pay

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for child minders, they don't pay for gardeners, they don't
have a kind of job that they go to nine
to five and it's thriving. They are like an extended
family of huge respect and every living being as a
member of that family, and so it's a shared responsibility.
They don't have money that they deal with, you know.

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They just live close to the earth and find their
own food, grow their own food. So I think that
is one of the possible models for us going forwards,
because it's going to be a combination of kind of
the understanding of leading edge physics in terms of manifestation,
and yet at the same time going back to indigenous
wisdom and all that that can teach us about the

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earth and the shamanic instinctive connection to the earth. We're
going to rediscover that sacred connection to the oth Earth
that's just been so trashed certainly in our lifetime and
many recent underments that we've used it to exploit and
to pillage and being separate, lived in big cities, and

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it's not something that we felt part of. But we
can't exist without nature. It was very interesting, I'm sure
you know this sounding bit. Way back in nineteen fifty three,
this is how the Human Resonance got its name. It
was I think it was a professor, Professor Schumann, and
he took a group of student volunteers and they volunteered

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to go into a kind of lead lead building that
was cut off from the energy of the Earth, so
they couldn't feel, you know, the resonance of the Earth's
heartbeat if you like that, seven point eight three hurtz.
And within quite a short space of time, within two
or three days, they all started to become quite unwell
physically and mentally, you know, unstable and unwell physically. So,

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unbeknown to them, Professor Schumann reintroduced the Earth's heartbeat into
the lead building. He didn't even tell them, and they
all became kind of normalized again. And that was when
the whole thing about the human residence was discovered, that
we need to have this connection to Mother Earth in

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order to thrive. And that's why barefeet on the grass,
bare feet on the Earth. I know it's not great,
whether in the UK or parts of the US, but
in whatever way we can to connect a mother Guy
because we are part of and even for short periods
of time, that can change our physiology. It changed the
viscosity of our blood. You can read all about this

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on groundology dot com. And so it is a literal,
direct physiological connection with the Earth that happens in minutes.
The change starts to happen within minutes.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
You know, looking at David's work, David Foul, his work
with the quantum plant healing, etc. I didn't interview with
him recently and Penny Kelly and he was talking about
the elementals, and you know, we forget that we are
connected to everything. And I remember hearing some years ago
that if you study places that go through a lot

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of you know, unrest, civil unrest, you know you will
see something happening to the earth in that area, whether
it's lily, you know, earthquakes or floods or things happening
that the Earth is interacting.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yes, yes, one. And you know, I've got some good
friends who can pick up on that energy like lightning.
They can just douse it, they can feel it, and
they can also clear it. And a big part of
what we're going through, I think, sadly, with these extreme
weather events, some of which are natural, some of which
are not natural, it's partly a cleansing and a purification

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of the earth alongside all of you know, the horrors
that go with those those extreme events.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Well, we're going to take a short break. Now you're
listening to what is going on. I'm Sandy said, and
I'm speaking with internationally renowned astrologer Pam Gregory and we'll
be back with more from Pam after the.

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Speaker 2 (33:57):
Welcome back, come quickly. We know that astrology really is
supporting air awakening, the expansion of consciousness and the opportunity
for us to really discover what it means to be human?
What does it mean to you to be human?

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Wow, that's a great question because that was one of
my really big themes this year. You might be aware, Sandy,
because I think we are going to be offered many, many,
many choices, some micro mini some big um. That really
underlying those choices is so what does it mean to

(34:36):
be human? Because I think we're going to be offered
some really cool, convenient quantum jump ways to get to
experience different dimensions, to experience multidimensionality in a way we've
never done before. And that's going to be very attractive,
it's going to be very seductive. But is that truly

(34:56):
a natural and organic path for humanity's evolution? For me,
and this is simply my personal choice. It's up to
everybody what they take, but for me, as I always say,
I'm going to stick to my bumpkin path because I
know if I follow the natural, new organic, that is
what nature intends for humanity's evolution. In my humble opinion,

(35:21):
other people may follow the you know, the quick fixes
it were the convenient, and it will seem very exciting,
and it will seem very accelerated even beyond the people
who haven't made that choice, and they be thinking, come on, guys,
this is a no brainer. Look at all you can
experience with these very simple and accessible texts. So I

(35:42):
have to I think we have to come back to that.
But for me, it is remaining natural and organic without
any invasive technology. I think it's the invasive technology that
I draw a line at, because we do have neurrolink
now a chip in the brain. In Sweden, certainly for
the last couple of years, you could you can easily

(36:04):
get a chip in your hand, which means you can
buy your train to get faster. Sweden is big on
this on on micro chipping. If you work for certain
large companies, you have to have a chip in order
to open the office, doore operate the coffee machine, get
into the loop, and it's an it's an opening, you know,
to all of the elements in the building and your

(36:25):
computer as well. And so certain companies, as I understand it,
are insisting on that as a condition of employment. I
think I'm right in saying that, because that's Sweden. On
way ahead, and for me, I would have to say,
do you know what? That wouldn't work for me. I'm
not having that. So it's the invasive side. I think, yes,
we're going to be operating with AI, whether we like

(36:48):
it or not. That's in our world right now. You know,
we know it is, you know, the automatic voice being
that you have to deal with on the phone with
a utility company or whatever. But it's the invasive side
where I say, no, I'm going to stay currently human.
But of course we are not in my view, one

(37:09):
hundred percent human. We are hybrids. We are galactic hybrids
because we've been cross pollinating with other galactic races for millennia.
So but the dividing line between human as we are
now as we understand it and machine for me is

(37:29):
the invasive side. I'm not going to go down that path,
but everyone must get It's an interesting but these are
the big, big choices. These are particularly from July onwards,
they are going to become liquidly split, particularly from July
on and on.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
It's interesting because you know what makes us human? I mean,
we tend to think that you know me, this personality,
whatever skills I've got, et cetera. Are part of what
makes me human. I look at AI and what AI
can do, and as a writer, I'm shocked because it
can write much better than I can. So now who
am I? You know, if I'm not going to be

(38:05):
a writer, what else am I going to be?

Speaker 3 (38:08):
I mean?

Speaker 2 (38:08):
And many people will be facing this in different ways.
So yeah, I mean, it really is what does it
mean to be human? I think it's the emotions. It's
got to come in with the feelings and the emotions
and the compassion and caring for one another.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
I think that's absolutely yeah, really good points, Andy, it
is it's the heart. It's the heart. It's the heart
and a sense of your own divinity and sacredness. Those
two things are super important, the heart and your sense
of divinity and sacredness. And I also think to some extent,

(38:46):
it's creativity. I think human creativity ultimately is always going
to be ahead of you know, the machine, as it were.
I think of AI much more as a replicator rather
than creator.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
The cheat, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
I mean?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
If I put something into AI, it's collecting everything everyone
else has ever written and given it to me and
making me feel in fear.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Yeah, and I see my own stuff coming back at me. Actually,
it's quite funny. I've tried chatbating. I think I said
that the same phrases are so Yeah, the feelings, the compassion,
the heart, and the sense of divinity. I think it
can't be replicated with AI.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Just' Of all the themes that you've talked about in
your broadcast, what are the ones that concern you the
most and also give you the most optimism?

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, great question. The one that concerns me the most,
that isn't getting much much airtime at the moment, is
the increasing electrification of the Earth. It isn't just Wi Fi,
it isn't just smart device. It's the fact we have
thousands of satellites out there and increasing number all the time,

(40:06):
and apparently they have you know, limited lifespan of a
few years, and once they kind of die out, nobody
goes around with the garbage truck and collects them. A
very good guy to follow on this is the geophysicist
Stephan Burns, and he talks about how each of these
satellites weighs several kilos of metal. Well, metal is highly

(40:29):
conductive of energy, of cosmic energy, and so what that
is resulting in is a much greater destabilization of all
of the levels of the Earth, you know, the ionosphere
all the way through to the earth surface, the Earth's
core which is iron and nickel as well. And we

(40:49):
live on the Earth. So because everything is connected from
way out there to inside us and inside the Earth,
this is an unprecedented level of electric vacation. And nobody
knows where that's going to go. Nobody knows where it's
going to go. And that concerns me great because it's
it's it's accelerating, and particularly with you know, mister Musk

(41:11):
in a very important position. That's accelerating and there are
currently very few people, I think very few people thinking
of hang on a bit, you know, is that leading
to somewhere that we may not want us humanity?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
This is the problem, isn't it? With progress? I mean,
people do things, you know, they suddenly they can They've
got access to all kinds of innovations, et cetera. But
and they do it because they can. It's like three
D printing, which I thought was amazing, and then you
hear that someone can print a gun, you know, so

(41:47):
they clearly haven't thought this all the way through all
the ramifications. So should we be doing things just because
we can?

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Yeah? Yeah, well that's that's it. And that's where I think,
and I've talked a lot about my videos, how we
have to be extremely wise and cognizant in our choices.
We have to be strategic. We have to think long term.
You know, if I do X, y Z, where is
this going? Because I think it's going to be very
easy to be seduced by novel technology and that's the

(42:18):
kind of micro decision. But you suddenly think this has
got me onto a pathway that eke. You know, I'm
on the wrong lane in the motorway now as it were.
So I think we just have to be very very
discerning and thoughtful long you know, like your chess player,
in terms of the decisions and choices we make, particularly
this year, because they're going to come so thick.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
So knowing the astrology for this year as you do,
by the end of the year, what will we have seen?

Speaker 3 (42:49):
What? Yeah, so we will have seen the increasing crumbling
of the old order. And even if you feel it
isn't looking that way on the news, the foundations that
you know, it's not that game is it called Junker?
Yunker where you call it the whole thing Genka. It's

(43:10):
a bit like that. So it appears to be to
some degree more authoritative at a centralized level. The astrology
is showing me that it's crumbling. This is these are
old systems which no longer serve us, and the direction
of travel is decentralized because it has always been that way.
When Pluto has moved into aquerus, the power has begun

(43:32):
to shift to the people. It's not handed to us.
We have to we have to work for it and
earn it. But it is going to be much more grassroots,
community based, like minded people coming together, forming groups and
coming together with a sense of sacredness, I want to say.
And in these little pockets which are emerging all over

(43:54):
the world, you know they're buying land, they're growing food,
they're meditating together that they're seeing the earth increasingly in
a web of light, and they, in their quiet way,
are creating miracles for our future timeline. And this is
something that comes up a lot. You know. I have
this three fifteen minute meditation which started on a Sunday evening,

(44:16):
and people have asked can we do it every night?
Because there's so much suffering in the world, which we do.
No zoom, no zoom links, no tech, no recordings, no nothing.
You join energetically. I've got a video on my channel
called Sunday Meditation, but it's actually every night now so
anybody can do it from anywhere, really fifteen minute meditation.
And the experiences that people are having, they report back

(44:39):
that they're kind of bounced out to the galaxy and
they can see this incredible web of light which is
getting stronger and brighter by the day. They're seeing thousands
of tall, benevolent galactic beings joining us and cheering us on.
And it's thrilling what people are experiencing in these meditator

(45:00):
which all of us, any of us can do. And
so it's that that gives me tremendous hope. And at
the moment, often these little pockets of light minded people
are not necessarily connecting with each other across the world.
The meditations do it, but they're not connecting in any
other way for obvious reasons. You know, they're they're they're

(45:21):
staying quiet. But there will come a time very soon
where they will connect like like a web, like a
web of light in a much more tangible way, and
then we have a freedom movement, you know, then we
have something very, very different, and that's what excites me.
And also the fact that our biology is starting to change,

(45:42):
and this this shift further further into the light body,
and this is going to take a little while. It's
not all going to happen this year, but many people
are already in it's only January, starting to feel that.
So by the end of the year, more people will
feel that. More people will be psychically sensitive, more people
will have pulled back from the three D world and

(46:06):
decided to put their knapsack on their back and go
their own way and connected to other like minded people.
More people will be meditating, More people will be sensitive
to connecting with the earth and trees and animals of
all kinds. So those are going to be the shit.
It's a shift from outer to inner that I hope
and believe we will see by the end of this year.

(46:29):
And there's still a lot of work to be done.
But this year is the kind of turbulent and chaotic
year in a way, but the year of greatest promise
because we have got a pretty much blank canvas we
are creating with our thoughts, our emotions and our choices
are tomorrow in every moment, every moment we are creating.

(46:50):
The canvas has never been more blank, because in the
old days of our love, you know, we'd follow the
predictable path. There's no predictable path. Now we are creating it,
and that's a great spiritual responsibility. But it's exciting because
we can make it what we want, full of love, joy, compassionate, gratitude, abundance, sharing,
helping each other in a way we have never done

(47:12):
in this lifetime or again many lifetimes. And that if
you can link with the right people, even ideally in person,
but even online, that becomes a momentum where you think, Wow,
I am really riding something that's incredibly exciting, rather than
feeling despair.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Were there any themes that you didn't have time to
include in your broadcast on the themes for twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Five, Wow, I'm sure some will emerge. I'm sure some
will emerge. I think we are certainly in What I
didn't emphasize enough probably is I think we are going
to discover way more about our cosmos, our galaxy, our cosmos,
our universe than we have ever known, which may knock

(47:59):
all of my astrology into a cocktat frankly, but I'm
open to that. You know, is it paradigmicesterric? So, I
think we are going to discover way, way more about
the out there than we have ever known. Yes, it's
the galactic connection, but it's actually the way our whole
the reality of the cosmos, the reality of the universe,

(48:22):
is fort the energy of that. And we're just starting
with you know, doctor dot David Clement's work and other
people invade Austin's work. We're just getting a kind of
glimmer of that. But I think that will radically change
our view of the cosmos and how we create our
reality in a huge way. And I probably didn't emphasize

(48:43):
that enough, but that was a really good question, sir.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah, so you've talked about how you know, you've given
us some guidance and tips on how people can kind
of find their stability through all of this. What can't
we take from the nine year the whole completion, you know,
concept that could help us in mapping up personal things

(49:05):
that we need to let go of.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Do you have any Yeah, great question. I think stop
giving life support to what is not for your greatest good.
Stop giving life support, Stop watching the news, stop going.
Isn't that horrific because that is food in the quantum realm,
And that's true on the collective level. Whatever we give
our attention to we are feeding, We're enabling it to continue.

(49:31):
So just if that's not for our highest good, just
stop it. And also look deeply into your own life
and say, with this job, this home, this relationship, this friendship,
if I'm absolutely honest, is that really helping me grow?
Or have I already outlived it? Is it already stale

(49:53):
or routine familiar so it gives me a sense of
security and stability, but actually it's a deadening routine or
a deadening relationship, or a deadening job. And be really
brutally honest with yourself because often as we close that
old door, a myriad of opportunities pop up which we

(50:14):
could never have imagined until we close the door. But
we have to close the door to free up the
energy to create the new with So I think that's
what I'd suggest to people very and be really brutally,
you know, have a quiet day where you look into yourself,
look into all of the aspects of your life and
say what's working and I want to consolidate and grow

(50:35):
and what's really a done deal for me? What have
I done to death? And it's no longer actually helped me.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
You know, this kind of re evaluation has been a
big theme in people's lives ever since COVID. We can
look back on COVID now and we can see some
of the benefits that we couldn't see at the time,
but it has certainly been a demarcation point and people
had started revalue waiting, do I need, you know, to

(51:02):
have that second car? Do I need to earn as much?
Would I be better off, you know, doing something that
I love? So that's interesting. One of the things that
always fascinates me, Pam is you do so much research,
and you're doing this service to the world, and you know,

(51:24):
you see what all the possibilities that are to come,
but it's not the same as actually watching what happens
when they do come. For instance, you know, you may
have talked about fire, water issues, et cetera, and then
you see something like what happened in la as A.

(51:45):
You know, an energetically sensitive person, which I know you are,
how does that sit Because you're carrying the thought of
what might happen and then you're feeling the reality of it.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Yeah, that's a really good question, because you know, inevitably
our heart goes out. I mean that the emails I
got from the people in South Carolina, in Florida, in California,
we're just absolutely heart wrenching. I mean because thereby the
grace of God go you or I. It could be
any of us that lost everything, and that in moments

(52:20):
lost every I mean, it's just unimaginable. It does help
us bring up our compassion, for sure and come together
as humanity. But what do I do about that? Great question?
Because I can see some very big climate changes this year,
very good, you know, very big extreme events with changes
of sea level and extreme climate, wind, fire, flooding, etc.

(52:45):
And I need, you know, to stick to the integrity
of the astrology and state those but at the same
time not overegg the drama and also say people, we
can change the severity of this. Yes, it's in the astrology.
We can change. It's almost like a symphony. You know,

(53:08):
you're the orchestra of your of your of your You're
the leader of the orchestra of your symphony. So do
we need to play down the brad that the base note.
Do we need to bring up the triangle and the piano.
We can change the severity of potential extreme situations by

(53:30):
living in love, living and enjoy, living in peace, living
in compassion. We can change it. If we go into fear,
we will amp up what we absolutely don't want more
of and then blame it for giving us a hard time.
You know, you get into this ridiculous circle of because
I know this isn't a popular view, but I do

(53:51):
believe in my bones this is the case. If we
believe we are responsible for creating our reality by logic,
it must be the case to say the collective unconsciousness
collect of consciousness has created the collective reality. So we've
created a lot of this through fear. So we have
to stop it. We have to stop it and shift

(54:12):
our focus and our frequency even one one degree on
the compass needle, one degree to soften the potential extremes
that may be coming up, and then we'll have an
easier ride through these. You know this as we're taking
off from the plane. Yes it's turbulent, but you get
an easier ride at higher altitude. I higher free.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
And I'm right with you there I do believe we
create our own reality and we are responsible for everything
that we're experiencing.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
For sure.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
I had I actually had a you know, that shown
to me that your outer world reflects your in a
world when I was going through a very stressful time
recently and then everything fell apart around me. I mean,
we see it all the time, you know, we have
to change, as you say, within, It's all from within.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
One hundred percent, and I feel it in my bones
more and more with every passing day. We create it,
and what we see in our roality is just a
mirror of what we're broadcasting. So it's an inside job always,
it's an insight.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
You know.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
I I want to thank you on behalf of everybody
who watches your videos. You know, we have to acknowledge
the amount of work and the passion and the energy
that you put into this. You've devoted your life to
do in this, and so I want to officially say
thank you on behalf of everyone, because you deserve that.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Pam, Oh, bless you, Sandy. That's really touching. Actually it
makes me feel very emotional, but I think it's just
that's what I'm here to do. But bless you. I
deeply appreciate that, and it does make me feel emotional
and when people send lovely comments, you know, I get
quite choked up. So thank you.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
For welcome Pam Gregory. Thank you so much for being
with us today.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
I've loved it, Sandy, great questions, loved it. Thank you
so much for inviting me and having the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
It's our pleasure to keep up to date on what's
happening on planet Earth. You can watch Pam's frequent astrological
commentaries on her YouTube channel, and you can check out
her best selling books How to co Create Using the
Secret Language of the Universe And you Don't really Believe
in Astrology? Do You? And teaching videos as well to
help you begin your own astrological journey at the Next

(56:28):
Step dot UK dot com. That's it for this week.
I'm Sandy Sedgeber. I'll be back at the same time
next week with another edition of What Is going On
Till then It's goodbye for me and a huge thank
you to Pamgrey.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Yeah, thank you so much, Sandy, and loved it. Everybody.
Thank you.

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