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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to what is going on for New Thought from
the Edge of Arm. Each week on home Time's flagship
radio show, veteran broadcaster, author, and media consultant Sandy Sedgebeer
conducts thought provoking interviews with inspirational authors, artists, musicians, scientists, speakers,
and filmmakers who are working at the point where spirituality
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and science meet consciousness at the very edge of Arm.
Here is your host, Sandy Sedgeber.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello. Born into a traditional Roman Catholic military family, where
discussions of UFOs and aliens were unthinkable, Debbie Slawis's life
took an extraordinary turn when she awakened to her true
cosmic lineage. Now an interdimensional traveler, galactic historian, and dissension coach,
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she's become a beacon for those seeking to uncover their
cosmic origins, reconnect with their style lineages, rediscover their soul's
gifts and missions, and embrace their inner light and divine selves.
Debbie Solaris Welcome.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
It's been so a little bit about your background. You've
had ordinary childhood. You spent your formative years traveling Europe
and Australia with your military family. Three years active duty
in the military, earned a Battle Green in science, worked
in the environmental field as a civilian, all with not
a midgeon of knowledge or interest in extra terrestory.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Oh none whatsoever. Yeah, you pretty much got it down
to two sentences of their health haven't repressed.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
But so what happened to change that?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Well, I had my own experience.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I had a very extraordinary experience in twenty twelve which
completely changed my life. So just to give you the
overview of what happened, I do think some of some
of my consciousness around extraterrestrials were starting to expand because
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my husband and partner at the time and he still
is my partner, but I was very interested in UFOs,
So it was just starting to become like, oh, maybe
it's possible, you know, but I was still very skeptical.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I wasn't like a big.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Advocate or had any real true interest in extraterrestrials. I
mean to me, it was just like, Okay, yeah, that
sounds way out there. And like you mentioned, you know,
I was working in a you know, pretty much a
very conservative field, you know, a science field.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I was an environmental health specially for a number of
years what changed. My entire path was started with a prayer.
So of course, you know, in twenty twelve, there was
a lot of transition, you know, so there was a
lot of things going on during that year. I would
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say it was a pivotal year for ascension, at least
the being beginning parts of it. But there was a
lot of talk about the Mayan calendar and the timelines changing,
you know.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So you know, so that was a concern. And then also.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
There was a lot of things happening in the United
States regarding our elections, you know, so you know, things
took up I think a turn for the worst for
quite a while for in the United States. So I was,
you know, understandably concerned, and I was concerned about the environment.
I was concerned about extinction of entire animal species since I,
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you know, have an environmental background. So I sent out
a prayer one night to the universe. I just asked
for assistance for planet Earth. I felt like we really
needed help here, and I was sending this prayer out
to any higher dimensional being that could with care to listen,
you know. So, uh, you know, said the prayer. Forgot
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about it. Two weeks had passed by this was in
May of that year, and then in uh later that month,
I had a extraordinary experience where I was I think
I was stream not I was sleeping, but or fell asleep.
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But when I came to, I came to a certain consciousness.
I was in a different reality. And it wasn't a dream,
because I've had lots of dreams, and dreams are usually
fairly vague, even the more loocid ones, and this was
seemed very crystal clear.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
It was like a really different experience. So I was
looking around.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
The space and it looked like an extraterrestrial craft. I mean,
I had read enough articles to kind of understand what
one might have looked like. But this craft was different.
It wasn't metallic. It didn't look like it was geo.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Engineered or.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Or reversed engineered or anything like that. It was not
made of materials I've ever seen. It was mostly light
and plasma like materials.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
And I had.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Encounters with extraterrestrial beings, and I do believe I had
what was called an out of body experience where my
consciousness was on board this craft, but maybe my physical
body was. But when I looked at myself, you know,
when I was on board this craft. It was you know,
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I looked like myself. I mean I didn't look like
different or or anything like that. I did encounter initially
four or five extraterrestrial beings. The ship itself was almost
seemed sentient, like it had its own consciousness. It was
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leading me to a certain space within the ship, and
so I just kind of followed along, and I found
myself in this large room and there was I would
say about five extraterrestrial beings waiting for me there. And
I knew they were extraterrestrial because I've never seen beings
like that. You know, they didn't look like anything from
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human and they did not look like gray aliens or
anything that you know, you might read about in UFO articles.
So I was able to communicate with these beings through telepathy.
So I would try to answer questions about maybe I
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was trying to come up with questions basically about you know,
just a general questions like what is this, where am I,
What's going on? And before I could even finish the
question in my head, these beings were answering me through telepathy.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
They told me.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
They were from a star system called Arcturists in the
Bodus constellation. It's not it's not terribly far from Earth.
It's like thirty seven light years. And they showed me
on a holographic device within this room that we were in,
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so we were within this globe that was had this
hologram that they showed me where the space was just
was located.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
And they told.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Me that the reason why they had brought me on board.
Because I was like, I'm nobody special, you know, why me?
You know, I'm you know, I'm not you know, I
would be the least likeliest person, you know, to be
brought on board a starship. But they told me it
was because they heard my prayer and so they felt
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like I was ready to take on my mission.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
And I was kind of weird. It was like what mission?
You know, Like what the heck?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
So these beings basically.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Told me that I was actually a soul that originated
from their their star system, you know, that I was
part of their sole group or their star family, which
amazed me because I thought I was just human, you know,
I didn't didn't think I had any extraterrestrial connections whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Uh Uh.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
It was kind of an extraordinary experience, and that I
asked a lot of questions about what was going on
on Earth. They tried to answer it, I think, as
simply as as they possibly could. They kept telling me
that everything here on Earth is an illusion, you know,
especially in the three D reality, that it's a false
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matrix construct, and that we had chosen to play a
part kind of almost like a video game in a way.
But so there is you know, a light side and
a dark side, and you know, we're all playing this
this these roles as.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You know, human with in our human avatar.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
And they answered a lot of questions also about just
what what is government, what is religion, and you know,
our societal constructs here on Earth. And then they allowed
me to they showed me around the ship a little bit,
and they allowed me to kind of wander off on
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my own on board the ship, where I encountered other
beings that were not Arcturians. These beings were also humanoid
to a certain extent, but they were different species, so
like Pleaadian Syrians, those those types of things, And it
was weird. I could kind of tell like, oh, yeah,
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that looks like Assyrian. That looks like a Pleaadian. And
so I was in the middle of the ship in
the atrium part of the ship, and there was hundreds
of these beings that you know, they all looked kind
of different, and I had some encounters with some of them.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
And then the next thing I knew, I woke up
and I.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Was back in my bed. This was in twenty twelve.
I had a second experience in December of the same year,
same ship, same beings. I had most encounters with one
a couple of Pleadian beings. So the first first visit
was mostly Arcturnians. Uh, the second visit was with a
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couple of Pleadian beings. And then uh, the second visit
wasn't quite as long, or didn't last as long as
the first one. But they shared some personal information regarding
I think, to some individuals that were within my inner circle,
and then particularly my father. My father committed suicide a
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few years ago, so uh, they were just giving me
some information about that.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
And then uh, and.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Then it was the same thing. I came back and
it was back in my bed, you know, and that
was it.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
So when you have those types of experiences, especially after
the first one, I knew something extraordinary yet happened, you know.
I just knew at that point that hey, something, something
really strange just happened. And of course the first person
I told was my husband, and he didn't believe me.
He thought I was having a weird dream. But so
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my husband had, uh you know, he just was telling me,
you know, maybe it was just a dream, and I said, no,
it was too real. You know, It's just it was just,
you know, the details were really sharp, and I don't
think it was a dream. And I noticed after the
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first experience and even after the second experience, that my
extrasensory perception, if you want to call it, that just
really expanded. It just you know, enhanced where I was
seeing UFOs all the time in the sky.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I was starting to.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
See auras around things. I was downloading information about galactic
events just in my head, you know, like all of
a sudden, I had this knew this information, and and
you know, initially I thought I was going crazy, you know,
so I thought, Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
This isn't.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
You know, this isn't doesn't seem you know real, you know,
like I don't know where I picked us up from,
you know. So I started taking a lot of spiritual classes.
I'm fortunate that I live in Colorado, where we we
have a very thriving spiritual community here. I mean, there's
lots of spiritual offerings. So I took one class after
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another after another for a span of two years. And
I didn't really tell too many people about my experience,
especially not even not people at work. And I was
still working my three D job, you know, at the time.
But and I didn't tell even my family, you know,
that I had this experience. I did do a lot
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of research, so I started reading a lot of books.
I must have read, I don't know, at least at
least a couple of hundred books, you know, during that time,
just trying to figure out what's going on?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Is this real?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
And the books I was finding actually collaborated with what
the downloads I was getting, you know. So for instance,
I don't know, if you're familiar with Lisa Royal Holt
and Dolores Cannon, you know, she they were writing about
the same things I was seeing. And at the time,
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I didn't realize where I was getting this information from. Eventually,
in twenty fourteen, I started taking reiki classes. So I
took some reiki classes locally in my hometown here of
Castle Rock, which is just south of Denver, and I
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was telling my teacher about my experiences and she to
told me that she thought I was getting information from
the Acacak records. This was my first time ever hearing
about the Acacak records, and she says, oh, by the way,
I teach, I teach classes on how to access to records.
So I was like, oh, I need to sign up
for those classes. So that's what started me on my
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path of exploring the Acajak records was I started taking
these classes and I just discovered, oh, I'm pretty good
at accessing these records. I don't know why, but you know,
pretty good.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
At downloading information.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
So initially I just started having a little part time
practice where I was just doing readings for people. At
the time, it was kind of like a copy you know, like, oh,
you know, I'm just doing making a little money, you know,
doing these nice little readings for people. But the more
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I was doing the readings, the more information I was downloading.
And then I started doing presentations throughout the front range
of Colorado. Started doing readings for quite a few folks
that worked at Gaya TV. And that's how I got
my first interview on Guya was because they started to
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get to know me and my work, and they thought,
you know, yeah, we need to get her on the show,
you know. So, so that's pretty much how this became
like a full time thing, you know. So I did
retire from my three D job or you know, my
my day job, if you want to call it that,
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in twenty nineteen to pursue this, you know, full time.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
So and I guess the rest of.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
It an absolutely beautiful website. You know. I look at
those images there, and I'm sure I'm not the first
person who said it. They are very compelling, very attractive.
Who created those images?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I hired artists to do some some AI work using
my descriptions of these beings, and he did a very
nice job. I would say the majority of the image
or images are really close to how I was seeing
these beings and how I described them, you know, when
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I do readings for people. So and the whole point
of creating that section in my website is to give
people like a place to go where they can they
can get information on these extraterrestrial beings. Just in one thought,
you know, so, because I noticed, you know, when I
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was doing my own research, you know, throughout the years,
I'd have to go to this website to read about Pleadians,
and then I have to go to this other website
to read about Arternians and then maybe pick up a
piece of information here and a piece of information there.
And I wanted something a little bit more comprehensive, you know,
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that was more.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
All together.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
So so the website was the first part of that.
And eventually, as I get time, I'll expand and you know,
add some more species of beings. But but I do
want to work on a book, you know, so you know,
we're we're doing We're working on a book this year,
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so so people can have all this information and a book.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
The information, I mean, you know, there's information that some
of this have read in other places, but there's a
lot of information that we've never seen. You know. I
was struck by one of the things that you know,
you said that there was the galactic history has been
hidden from humanity for thousands of years.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Now.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I know that it's been said, and I've seen it
in a few places that many of the walls in
the Middle East have a covid purpose to find and
still or destroy ancient texts and tablets Holyformation.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I believe that too.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I think the information has been purposefully hidden from us
because if humans realize their galactic connections or galactic heritage,
there is no stopping us, you know, because we're considered
to be genetic royalty in the eyes of you know,
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the extraterrestrial beings that are out there, because we're kind
of like a HEINZ fifty seven of quite a few
different star races, so we kind of got the best
and the worst of all the DNA that's been you know,
contributed to the human genome. But but yes, I do
believe that it was purposeful. That was why during the
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Council of Nicea, you know, back in the early at
the Fall, before the Fall of Rome, certain books were
taken out of the Bible because they did not want
us to discover that, you know, we're greater than than
what they wanted us to believe, you know. So uh
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so pretty much the message that we get, you know,
when we're growing up. I know this was the case
with me, you know, because I was born in the
early sixties, and uh we were taught that you're just
a human, you just have one lifetime. There's no such
thing as reincarnation. Jesus as your savior, you know, you know,
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the only and you have to go through I was
you know, we're raised Roman Catholic, as you were mentioning before,
so you know you have to go through a priest,
you know, to get your you know, sins wiped out,
you know, and you know, it's like there's no hope
for you.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
You know, you're you're just a.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Human all you all you can know for maybe have
a nice life with a job and a family and
you know, and that's it, you know. So uh and
they don't talk about you know, us having a direct
connection with God, you know, so that always bothered, like,
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you know, why do we have to go through somebody else?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You know?
Speaker 4 (21:22):
And I think this maybe this is the star seed
aspect of me that was always asking questions, you know,
even as a kid, you know, like we're you know,
whire things the way they are you know doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
You know.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
So when I did have that visit with the you know,
our Turnians, they explained a lot of that. You know,
it's like wow, yeah, that makes sense, you know, yeah,
you know that's this is just a human construct. It's
not even real, you know, It's just something that a
bunch of humans that want to control the masses created,
you know, so so yeah, absolutely, you're right on target,
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you know, with what you say about you know, some
of the conflicts in the Middle East, and that's why
it's been so ongoing for thousands and thousands and thousands
of years and it never stops. And some of these
groups are held bent on creating destroying ancient tombs and
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artifacts because they do not want us to get our
hands on that information.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That's where I heard it. But I remember the story
that somebody told me, and it was would have been
somebody who I would believe, someone with credentials about somebody
who was in the military that told them that, you know,
they were sent a short notice to certain places, iron, Ira,
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et cetera. And they thought when they were deployed there,
they thought it was because they were to find they weren't.
Their job was to get all of this material from
a particular site and ship it back to America. And
this guy said, you know, there were ancient books, There
was all kinds of tablets, all kinds of stuff. So
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I think, you know, we've heard this for years since,
since the First and Second World Wars. Definitely, yeah, the
gathering of you know, all of the material, who knows
where it's going. On your website, you give some wonderful
descriptions of the different kinds of races and the origin story.
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Could you just briefly, you know, give us an overview
of the origin story and how we got to be here.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, I'll have to give the like super abridged version.
It's as story, but so so basically humanity as we
know it, or you know, the humanoid races were created
in the Lyrus system, at least in our universe. So
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the the Adamkarmon form, you know, so that you know,
the two arms, the two legs, you know, that's a
form that I think it's dispersed throughout multiple universes, so
it seems to work, you know. So that's why we
all kind of look somewhat similar, you know. So you know,
even the extraterrestrial beings. You know, there are there are
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non humanoid extraterrestrial beings out there, but I'm I'm specifically
focusing on the humanoid races. So the humanoid races basically,
so everything started in and Dramaeda galaxy. So the Milky
Way was created to be kind of the backdrop of
our separation from source. So each multiple universe goes through
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this experience. So it's our universe's turn. And it was
supposed to happen in and Dramaeda Galaxy and Dramatic Galaxy
being that were these light beings, they were co creator
beings created this alternate galaxy called the Milky Way. So
the Milky Way separated from Andromeda Galaxy. There was a
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portal that was created called the Ontari Stargate where it
was a portal between these two galaxies. Now, Ontari's is
in the Scorpio constellation, and Galactic Center is actually located
in our galaxy between Scorpio and Sagittarius. I think the
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exact location is twenty eight degrees Sagittarius. Now, there was
galactic councils that were deciding, okay, how we're going to
play out this this you know, this experience you know
of separating from source, and so they decided to create
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physical life in the Lyrius system. So Lyral is a
very small constellation, only has thirteen stars, and they used
a location because it was fairly close to Galactic Center
and also because it had the conditions that were very
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favorable for human and sentient life.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
You know, so.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Even today, some of the exoplanets that are considered to
be inhabitable in our galaxy, quite a few of them
are located in Lyra, you know. So so this is
a scientific fact. So the co creator beings some people
call them the loheim or the Watchers, or you know,
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whatever you want to call them.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
You know, the co.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Creators created physicality in Lyra and they had beautiful paradise planets.
You know, they existed there for thousands and thousands of years,
you know, in complete paradise, you know. So I think
this is where some of our stories about, you know,
the Garden of Eden came from. I see a lot
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of correlations between the Garden of Eden story and what
happened in Lyra.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
So there was these beautiful beings that were created there,
and they created not just one, but two human races.
So there was the blue skinned Vega race. So the
Vega is a star in the in the Viral constellation.
It's also known as Alpha Lyraids. It's actually a major
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star system. So these these beings were more the representation
of Mother Goddess consciousness. Now, the white Lyrins were created
in the other star systems in Lyra and in their planets,
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and they were more the representation of Father God consciousness.
So this is just the basic template of source consciousness.
So these beings coexisted with each other, you know, for
thousands of years. Everything kind of came to a head
when there was another constellation called Draco.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
So here's Lyra, here's Draco. Draco's light next door to Lyra.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
There was reptilian beings that came from that lived in
this Draco system. And these were beings that were serviced
to self, you know. They they just want to conquer
other systems for their own purposes. So these beings decided
they wanted to conquer Lyra because of its resources. It
had beautiful paradise planets with multiple multiple resources. So so
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they ambushed the Lyrin planets. Uh Lyra and uh Draco
went into a big war. And uh, obviously the Draconians
had much better technology, you know, they had they had
technology for billions of years, uh, whereas the Lyrons were
kind of new to technology. So obviously the Lyrons lost
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the war. You know, so they a lot of the
planets got wiped out. I would say about five planets
I think got wiped out. They got annihilated. I think
they say they say that fifty million Learns lost their lives.
This is according to Lyssa Royal Holt, and this is
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something I saw on the records too. And then the
survivors of the wars just dispersed out into different systems
throughout the galaxy. So this is why we have different
races of beings. So we have, you know, beings that
live in serious we have beings that live in the Pleightes,
we have beings throughout. So there are some exceptions. The
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Arcturnians who were their own consciousness. They weren't really descendants
of Laryn refugees, unlike a lot of the other races.
And uh, there's you know, exceptions in Andromeda constellation. They
had some species of beings there and serious Bee that
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were not necessarily descendants of Leary and refugees. But I
would say a lot of the humanoid races, including those
of us here on Earth, were descendants of those of
those refugees. There was even quite a few of them
that ended up on Earth. So just kind of making
the story a little faster here. There was quite a
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bit of settlements in Orion. So Orion is a huge constellation.
When you look in the sky, you can always find Orion.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
It's it's big.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
A lot of people see the Belt Stars. So I
call Orian the melting part of the galaxy because there
was a lot of different species of beings that were
settling there after the wars. And so I do believe
that the story of Star Wars, the whole movie saga,
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is based on the Orion Wars. So because you had
Reptilians there, you had gray aliens, you had humanoids, everybody
was all mixed together. There was a lot of fights
and conflicts over territory, and there was actually a Reptilian empire,
you know, that was trying to take over everything, just
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like they did in Lyra. And so there was a
lot of wars. So there was a resistance group in
the Belt Stars that were trying to fight for sovereignty.
And so they called upon the Galactic Federation, which was
a federation of benevolent beings that just wanted to keep
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peace and unity throughout the galaxy to assist them. So
how this relates to Earth, Okay, you going to go.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
To break, but I want you to hold that. I mean,
because what we all want to know ultimately is how
does that relate to us? You're listening to what is
going on on? Sandy Sedgbia and my guest today is
et contact tee, interdimensional traveler, galactic historian and ascension coach
Debbie Solaris, who, after a faithful et contact experience, awakened
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to her true star lineage and higher calling, which is
to be a conduit for galactic wisdom, sharing transformative insights
that have the power to enlighten individuals about their divine
lissence and cosmic ancestry. We'll be back with more from
Debbie Silaris in a few moments. Hello.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
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Welcome back, Wi Silas. Please continue.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Okay, so we were at the most.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Interesting point where so how does the Orion Wars relate
to Earth?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (36:41):
So, so the Orion Wars lasted for millions of years
and eventually the you know, the Light, the you know,
the Federation of Light and also the Resistance fights did
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achieve unity consciousness throughout the Orion system. So there was,
you know, pretty much a merging of all these groups. However,
there were some of the factions from the Empire that
did not want to merge. They did not want to
give up their control. So they were looking for new
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places to conquer, and they were looking at specifically our
solar system, you know, here on you know here we're
with our son and our planets.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Initially, they did colonize Mars and.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
A planet called Maldec which used to be located between
Jupiter and Marsh, so that so they were they were
starting to have settlements in these systems or these planets.
Because there was so many dark factions in Maldek. Maldk
went into a civil war and they destroyed their own planet.
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So a lot of these souls from Maldec ended up
incarnating on Earth. So these were dark factions that were
either coming to Earth or through way of Mars in
Maldek came to Earth later. But so these were factions
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that basically wanted to find new systems to conquer, and
Earth was a pretty pivotal point. You know, it's a
pretty nice planet, you know, it's like.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
You know, So.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
They started infiltrating the Atlantean government, which caused again another
civil war. Atlantis fell and we plunged from the fifth dimension.
So Earth was always supposed to be a fifth dimensional planet.
It was supposed to be just a storehouse of beautiful
DNA from many different star systems. But when these factions
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took over, they, uh, you know, Earth plunged into the
third dimension and we've been there ever since. So this
is why things are the way they are, you know, so,
so these factions are still in power to a certain extent.
So a lot of our royal families and the elites
and the Dark Cabal, these are the descendants of these beings.
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So yes, they have reptilian DNA. They're not like us,
you know. So they've been trying to keep a stronghold
on planet Earth ever since. So that kind of like
our galactic story in a nutshell. I mean, I didn't
really get that much into the Pleiadians or the Syrians.
You know, they play a part in all this too,
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but I was trying to keep this as shared, the
story as succently as possible. But that's why things are
the way they are here now, and why there's so
many star Seas now trying to make changes.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
You said on your website that some of the Draconians
some there was a three different levels of them, and
some of them did turn to the line. So we
we have come here, presumably there's still you know, that
kind of DNA, but are not interested in you know,
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service to sell.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Yeah, there there's a few that and I've seen this
in the records.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I've seen it.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Some of my clients even have reptilian guides, you know,
depending on their their own you know, star genetics.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
But there's a few of them that have.
Speaker 4 (40:43):
Turned to the light and they actually become amazing healers.
And I have done a few readings Ca Kajak readings
for folks.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
That have dragon DNA.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
You know that they they're you know, they're they're incarnated
into a human form. But their lineage is you know, dragon,
and dragon is upper upper tier level Reptilian, so they're
they're more of a neutral stance. They're not necessarily like
dark and evil like you know, the warrior cast what
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I call the warriors uh, reptilians, you know, so uh,
A lot of them are here to try to be
teachers and to to heal the planet. A lot of
dragon energy is mostly i think, not so much focused
on individual human healing processes, but more healing of the
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grid systems or healing of the environment, you know. So
so that's usually what I see as a focus, you know,
with these types of beings.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
So lots of people you know today are very interested
in this. I think that memories are beginning to resurface,
and if it's not actual memories, there's a deep you know, attraction,
a compelling duel to this information, as if the soul knows,
even if their veins don't yea, when you say we
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are today, you know, why are there so many people
waking up?
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Now? Well?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
I think this goes back to what do Lauras can
and shared in her book The Three Waves of Volunteers
and New Earth, which is one of the books we're
going to talk about in your other series. But so
she talks about, how ever, since World War Two, there's
been this huge influx of star seeds and what is
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a star Okay, so a lot of people hear this word,
you know, thrown around, especially in our spiritual community. So
my definition of a star seed is somebody that's having
a human incarnation here on Earth, but their soul is
much older than Earth. So their soul originated from another
star system so or another galaxy, or another universe sometimes
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or even another reality. And so basically what happened, and
this was something I saw on the Akashak records, was
there was a big galactic council meeting. I think it
was an Andromeda constellation. It was the I think, part
of the Andromeda Council. So so they were deciding Okay,
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or They were looking at you know, how are we
doing on our overall evolution in this galaxy? And everybody
was looking at Earth, you know. So they so like, okay,
we're doing pretty good with Orion. You know, Ryan's getting
back on track. But Earth is still stuck in the
third dimension. So if Earth isn't able to ascend, the
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rest of the galaxy can't ascend any further.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
So this is why they're so interested in Earth. And
they were concerned because there was not just one, but
two World Wars and the Second World War there was
atomic bombs that were you know, decimated Hiroshima, you know,
so so they were concerned that Earth was going to
blow itself up. And this was considered to be a
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living library for these extraterrestrial races. You know, they donated
so much DNA to this planet.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
They didn't want to.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
See it get destroyed. So there was a lot of us,
you know, myself and a lot of other star seeds
and maybe even you two, you know that, you know,
we're all part of this, you know, trying to expand
consciousness on this planet. We decided to volunteer to be here,
you know. So that's why hence the three waves of volunteers.
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Now you and I are both first waivers, you know,
so we're part of the first wave generation of star Seeds.
So we were the teachers, the healers, the spiritual guides.
We're not here to create or breakdown old systems or
create new systems. We're just here to start the process,
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you know. Uh. Now, the the generations that are coming
after us, that's you know, the people that were born
in the seventies and eighties, and then uh though, those
are that were born in the nineties and the two thousands.
That's the second and the third wave. The second wave
was more like the Indigo children. So they were the
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rebellious ones. They were the ones that were really you know,
questioning everything and you know, just really rebelling against the system.
And then the kids that are coming in now, you know,
I call them kids, or some of them are adults now.
But but the younger generations, they're the they're the system builders,
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you know. So they're going to be the ones that
are going to be creating the New Earth once we assent.
We are currently ascending, you know, so I do believe
that the planet is ascending, you know, regardless of whether
the humans are ascending the planet has it is and
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is going to be ascending. I don't know if you've
noticed this. You're in what Australia or oh you're in England, Okay,
so so I don't know if you noticed it in Europe.
But here in the United States, I know, just here
in Colorado, the sun looks different. It used to be yellow,
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now it's.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
White, and everything is a lot more brilliant. Like I'm
looking at the sky.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
The sky is like a brilliant blue. There's like more
layers of greens than we used to see, a lot
sharper details. It's uh, it's obvious that the frequencies are changing,
you know. So and I think this is pretty much
globally happening globe, you know, to certain degree.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
So maybe in higher vibrational places it's more more more evident.
But uh, but I do think there's changes in England too,
because I know a lot of people are doing events
in Glastonbury and you know in the ancient sites, you know, uh,
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and there's a lot of crop.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
Circles in your areas.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
So yeah, so I mean, so there's there's stuff happening
there and England actually, you know, this is something I
saw on the records. I just want to bring attention
to England because there was so many extraterrestrial colonies in
England and I saw this in the records. I was like,
why why were they so focused on England? You know,
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And the reason for that is all the lay lines
that were coming through in your particular location on planet Earth.
And I do think at Glastonbury is like one of
the Earth's chakras or yeah, you know, so the extraterrestrial
beings knew that there was something, there was like a
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special energy in your location. And so the races that
I saw that were predominantly focused in your area were
the Andromedis, which is really interesting because I see a
lot of Andromeda and DNA amongst, you know, some of
the British star seeds I do readings for. So there's
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and a lot of Lyron. So King Arthur was trying
to bring back Avalon.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Avalon originally was a Lyron planet, you know.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
So so I don't think that's a coincidence.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
Okay, So you.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
Know, so there's a lot of energy that's happening in
your area as well. And I do get a lot
of awaken star Seeds in England.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
So yeah, you know, if it's such a small country,
I know that there's there's a lot going on going on, yeah,
and some that we can you know. Obviously, one of
the first questions people must ask when they meet you
is how do I find out where I'm from? You know?
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What do you say to them?
Speaker 4 (49:22):
I always say, inherently, I think you you always know,
you know, like you always I think I think people
get really disconnected from themselves. I know that sounds pretty basic,
but I always tell them to meditate on it and
to ask their guides. And usually you know, like like
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if you hear the word ple eightes, does your heart
like bring you know, happiness when you hear that word?
Or if you hear serious you know, serious be does
it make you want to go back home? You know?
Speaker 3 (49:56):
So I think.
Speaker 4 (49:58):
Intuitively we kind of know already. Of course, they can
always come to someone like me or you know, other
people for readings, but I honestly believe we know ourselves,
you know. Like it's so if somebody comes to, for instance,
to me for a reading, it's usually because they just
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want confirmation. I think they already know they're a star
seed they already know the systems that they're connected with,
but maybe they're just looking for external confirmation of that.
Speaker 2 (50:33):
And then I mean, what do people do once they know?
Do they feel like, Okay, now I know what am
I here to do? Let's be the next thing.
Speaker 4 (50:43):
It's kind of like I think if you have a
Nakajak reading, particularly I guess a galactic ka Kajak reading,
it acts as an activation. So at that point people
I think it's just like a remembrance, like, oh, yeah,
this is what I'm connected with, and this is why
I am the way I am. I know, when I
discovered I was arcitarian, you know, it's like, oh that
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explains a lot, you know. You know, so I've I've noticed,
you know, throughout, you know, doing thousands of these readings
throughout the last decade or longer, that there are certain
traits that are associated with certain star lineages.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
You know.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
So for instance, you know, Ourcterarians are really interested in technology,
you know, we like, we like technology. But then also
we're great healers, you know, so and we tend to
be introverts, you know. So I mean I'm an introvert,
you know, so I you know, and so When I
find out out, I was like, oh, yeah, that that
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was why I worked in the IT field for a
number of years, and why I was interested in science,
and and why I'm an introvert.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
You know.
Speaker 4 (51:51):
So stuff like that that kind of starts making sense,
you know, like, oh, yeah, that's why why I am
the way I am.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
And then it also.
Speaker 4 (51:58):
Gives you an insight into your mission, you know, So
what am I here to do? So if I'm a
Pleaadian star seed, for instance, maybe I'm meant to work
with animals.
Speaker 3 (52:10):
You know.
Speaker 4 (52:11):
If a lot of Pleaadian star seeds are very empathic
and they love animals, a lot of them go into
wellness careers, you know. So I see a lot of
Pleaadian star seeds that are dietitians or yoga instructors, or
they they teach, or they work with reiki, or they
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they do hypnotherapy, you know. So you know, so there's
certain trends with that. And so when I do a
reading for someone, it gives me a clue once I
figure out what their star system of origin is, like, Okay,
these are probably the areas that you gravitate towards. And
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more often than not, they'll say yes, how'd you know that?
You know, because it's part of your your star lineage.
So yeah, it does give great insight.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
You train a lot of people to meet the Akashik
records so that they can help others, you know, these questions.
You also have a number of different web webinars on
your website. Two of them, I'm sure people would be
very interested in. Which is the master in the Star
Seed Health webinar and the reju the Nation one, the
(53:27):
anti aging webinar.
Speaker 4 (53:29):
Yeah, those are the two. There's those two are really popular.
That in the Discovering your Star Origins that's another real
popular one.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (53:38):
That was comprised of years of doing these readings. I
kept seeing health trends with certain you know, star lineages,
and I went through my own health recovery journey myself,
which you know, maybe that's a conversation for another time,
but but I was always really interested in, Okay, why
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am I seeing fibromyalgia amongst all these learns.
Speaker 3 (54:02):
Star cetes you know.
Speaker 4 (54:03):
So you know, so it's just comprised of years of
doing this work, and so yeah, I do offer that
and that's available just through the training page on my website.
Anybody can go on there and just sign up for it.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
In the same way that you know, we inherit DNA
from our parents, et cetera, and and you know for
pensities for certain diseases and conditions, the same would apply
with the you know, the different races that Lyons might
have this particular weakness and Pleadians something else.
Speaker 3 (54:40):
Oh, totally, totally Yeah.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
Speaking of Pleaadians, I saw a lot of diabetes, you know,
so it's like, you know, why why this particular you know,
and it's you know, just genetic tendencies.
Speaker 3 (54:53):
You know.
Speaker 4 (54:54):
So, like I said before, we're all kind of signs
fifty seven of different extraterrestrial races, you as far as
our human genome here on Earth, So it would make
sense that we would inherit, you know, some of these
tendencies from our our star you know, star heritage you know,
and our star lineage. And as far as a Kashak readings,
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I do offer a course once a year. This year,
we're going to offer it in the fall. You know,
in past years we've offered it in the spring, but
we're kind of uh reconfiguring the course, trying to make
it a little bit more streamlined.
Speaker 3 (55:35):
For folks.
Speaker 4 (55:36):
So uh so, so if you're if people are interested
in doing what I do, we're going to train you
how to do it, you know. But it is a
six to eight week course, you know, So it's you know,
it's it's this whole certification thing.
Speaker 3 (55:54):
So that's available as well.
Speaker 4 (55:56):
You know, if you're interested in that, just sign up,
you know, subscribe to my web site.
Speaker 2 (56:01):
You are doing an Ancient Soul's Remembrance retreat from the
Big Island in Hawaii in the February beginning of March.
That sounds interesting. You only have a couple of minutes left.
One of the things that I would like to do
before we have to end this conversation, and I hope
(56:22):
we can continue it another time, is to ask you,
you read the Akashik records, where are we headed?
Speaker 3 (56:31):
Right? Because it's good ending question.
Speaker 4 (56:37):
I guess, well, I think right now we're in a
process of great clearing, just individually and also collectively. I
think that's why we're seeing things going to hell in
a hand basket, you know, with the la fires and
all the commotion that's happening, you know, throughout the planet.
(56:58):
And I do believe that the dark all beings that
I mentioned before. They're pulling out all stops. They're just
trying to really stop our ascension. I mean, they're doing
everything they can to keep humanity contained, and we're not
going to stay contained.
Speaker 3 (57:10):
There's just no way. But so I think the next
couple of years is gonna be pretty bumpy. It's going
to be.
Speaker 4 (57:20):
We're gonna see more of a separation between those of
us that are on the ascension path than those of
us that stay decide to stay in the three D,
and there'll be this separation between dimensions. We're currently seeing
it now, but it's going to become even more prominent,
you know, in the next couple of years. I do
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believe we're heading to a golden age and it is
going to happen in our lifetimes. We're going to see
extraterrestrial technologies being more prevalent, particularly free energy and MEDBD
technologies and you know, just technologies are going to help
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us live much better lives. But I think we have
to get through this rough period first. But yeah, we
are heading to the fifth dimension. I do think that
definitely is going to happen in this lifetime.
Speaker 2 (58:19):
Yes, I agree with you, Debbie Cilalis. We're out of
time now, I'm afraid I really would encourage you to
go to Debbie's site if you are interested in learning
more about humanity, scalectic history, and your own and the
Earth experiment. You'll find all the information there. So Debbie,
your webinars and classes are all listed on your website. Debbi,
(58:45):
I think you've got a Conscious Life Expo appearance coming
up here.
Speaker 4 (58:49):
Well, I'll be a Conscious Life So if you're in
the LA area, please come and see me at the
Conscious Lifexpo. And then if you're interested. I don't know
if there's any spots left, but you might want to check.
But I am doing the.
Speaker 3 (59:02):
Ancient Soul's Retreat in.
Speaker 4 (59:06):
Kona, Hawaii, which is in the Big Islands, so that's
the end of next month, so it's gonna be an
extraordinary experience. And then there's other events too, but you
can always check that on my events page.
Speaker 3 (59:18):
So that's pretty much
Speaker 2 (59:19):
It, DEBI thank you for joining me.