December 19, 2024 • 56 mins
Air Date - 19 December 2024
Everything is electric. This seemingly simple observation has transformational repercussions on how we think about and approach physical, mental, and emotional health.
Eileen Day McKusick is an expert in the emerging field of electric health and has taught thousands how to transform effortlessly by learning to “think electrically.” The author of Tuning the Human Biofield, her second book, Electric Body, Electric Health, shares simple, easy-to-implement practices for shifting perspective, expanding awareness, improving emotional management, and rewiring, charging, and raising your voltage to re-power your life.
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Everything is electric. This seemingly simple observation has transformational repercussions on how we think about and approach physical, mental, and emotional health.
Eileen Day McKusick is an expert in the emerging field of electric health and has taught thousands how to transform effortlessly by learning to “think electrically.” The author of Tuning the Human Biofield, her second book, Electric Body, Electric Health, shares simple, easy-to-implement practices for shifting perspective, expanding awareness, improving emotional management, and rewiring, charging, and raising your voltage to re-power your life.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to what is going on for New Thought from
the Edge of Arm. Each week on home Time's flagship
radio show, veteran broadcaster, author, and media consultant Sandy Sedgebeer
conducts thought provoking interviews with inspirational authors, artists, musicians, scientists, speakers,
and filmmakers who are working at the point where spirituality
(00:32):
and science meet consciousness, at the very edge of arm.
Here is your host, Sandy Sedgeber.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello with me today to share how we can transform
our relationship with our body, mind, and emotions and alleviate pain, insomnia, depression,
and numerous other elements by learning to think electrically. Is
pioneering researcher in sound healing therapy Eileen dy Mecusic, MA,
(01:02):
who spent more than twenty years exploring a mapping the
human biofield and is the award winning author of the
book's Tuning the Human Biofield Healing with Vibrational Sound Therapy
and Electric Body Electric Health. Eileen Macusic, Welcome, Hi, Sandy,
(01:24):
so you live Your book Tune In the Human bio
Field won the Nautilus Award. It's based on your master's
thesis exploring the effects of audible sound on the human body.
Where did your journey with sound begin.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
My journey with sound began in nineteen ninety six when
I found a set of tuning forks for healing in
a Gaya catalog and at the time I was doing
massage therapy just part time, and I decided to get
them and start experimenting with them. And twenty almost twenty
(02:00):
nine years later, I'm still experimenting with them.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So what was your first experience with them?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Well, the team firks really surprised me, and actually I
would say that they continued to surprise me, which is
part of the reason why I've still been using them.
I like to be surprised, I guess, and so I
remember very distinctly one of my massage clients, one of
the first people that I used them with. Now, I
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had no idea what I was doing. They came with
very simple instructions. It was the c major scale as
related to the chakras, and said, you see on the
route dyond the sacral e, on the solar and so on.
So I just started activating them and moving them around
people's bodies. And I had a gentleman who came to
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see me because he had a very sore shoulder, and
I asked him if he was willing to be a
guinea pig, and I held the tuning fork over his
shoulder and the tone went very sharp. And then I
held it over his other shoulder and it sounded normal.
And so I went back to the sore shoulder, and
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I kept activating the fork and holding it over that
shoulder until finally, after just a little bit, it sounded
like the other shoulder. And then he got up off
the table and he rotated his arm and he said,
oh my god, Eileen, all the pain is gone. And
we were both very surprised about that, because neither one
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of us had any expectation. So that intrigued me. And
with each person that came in that was willing to
be experimented on, I kept making more and more discoveries
about how the sound was interacting with the body.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Who first invented the tune in forks? I mean, you know,
sound has been used for healing for millennia, you know,
with musical instruments drums and digiwidoo's and things like that,
But who actually invented the forks?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well, I believe tuning forks to use to tune instruments
were invented in the allegedly in the seventeen hundreds, although
apparently there have been things that are tuning fork like
discovered in ancient Egypt, so who knows how long they've
really been around. However, there are three gentlemen in the
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seventies and eighties, Fabian Maman, Jonathan Goldman, and John Bolu
all were using tuning forks before I got a hold
of them, and they have all developed their own approaches
with them.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Wow, so you discovered that the human biofield contains a
very specific anatomy and physiology which can be successfully modulated
with them. How did you discover that? Was it just
by opposit evation practicing with different clients and seeing the
difference it made.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, it was really kind of a blind fumble in
the dark with momentary flashes of illumination that started to
reveal patterns. So it was really kind of a process
of pattern recognition over the course of a number of years.
When I discovered that, you know, just like our inside
anatomy is pretty much the same from person to person,
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that the atmosphere around the body actually had an anatomy
and physiology. It's like this terrain kind of hidden in
plane view, and I was using the tuning forks like
echo location, bouncing sound off the body. And then after
ten years of doing that, I accidentally discovered that there
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was stuff going on in the atmosphere around the body.
And so it's really at the process of sounding into
and then listening to the pingbag. Just like ultrasound gives
us a picture of what we cannot see, the tuning
forks kind of revealed the same thing, the texture and
patterning in the field around the body. And this led
to what I call the bilefield anatomy map.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So how did you actually create that? Was that again
for through observation and just noticing if I, you know,
this person's got this kind of problem and if I
press there, this is what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah. Yeah, it was, you know, just sort of something
like I had a lot of people would come in
and they would have right hip pain, and I discovered
that they had a lot of charge or energy sense
of resistance in the fork and a change in tone
in the magnetic field around that particular area. And I
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discovered somewhat oddly that I could move these areas of
charge in the magnetic field with the tuning fork. That
the tuning fork became like a magnetic stylust in my hand,
and I could do magnetic fields that would lead to
a change in the way electricity was flowing through the body.
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And I also found that each area of pain that
people had, there seemed to be an associated mental emotional
imbalance that was informing it. So, for example, very often
people with right hip issues sciatica right hip pain have
a tendency to overdo and overthink, to project themselves into
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the future, to run to do lists, to have sort
of an inner task master, and so they're not resting
in the present moment. They're pushing themselves out in front
of themselves in this kind of busy way. And when
our magnetic field, our mind, our emotions go out of balance,
it pulls the body with it. And so I discovered
that I could in adjusting the magnetic field. It was
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sort of like adjusting someone's mind. And then I would
give them some coaching around the importance of staying in
the present moment, checking their thoughts when they had a
twinge or a flare up, like what was your mind doing,
and then bringing themselves back into the now. And found
that that was an extremely effective way for helping people
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not only get out of pain or discomfort, but connect
to their own bad habits that were leading to that
in the first place.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Have you found, you know, chets quite often, you know,
a practitioner can press on a certain area and somebody
just dissolves into tears. Have you found the same thing
happening with the tuning folks?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Mm hmm. In fact, I've talked about getting a T
shirt made that says I make people cry because I'm
very good. Essentially, what I discovered that the biofield is,
or the body's biomagnetic field, is what we would call
our mind. It's our conscious mind, it's our subconscious mind.
It's where all our memories are stored. You know, we're
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all told that our memories in the brain, and they
might be there, but I found them in this very
specific way in the magnetic field and part of the
bio field mapping the left shoulder. For example, every time
we feel sad, we are laying those memories of those
sad feelings off of the left shoulder. So if I
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am combing through someone's field, I can find through the
way the fork changes the resistance that I feel in
my fingertips specific sad memories, and I can determine what
age they are because the field is sort of stratified
and it's timelined. So as we generate information in each moment,
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we're sort of laying down these tracks within our field,
and information moves away from us. So our field is
about six feet it extends six feet out from our
body on average, and information I find close to the
body is current or recently generated. Information I found at
the outer boundary of field, and it is a bubble.
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There is a membrane there that we can feel. That
membrane contains information from gestation than birth. So when I
start six feet away from your body and start moving
the vibrating tuning fork through your field, it's literally like
dropping a needle on an album and reading the vibrational
record of your life. And so any place where there's
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highs or lows, the tuning fork is going to reflect that.
So I can find these undigested, unexpressed memories, like pooking
around your brain. Almost then I can find the tender places,
and when you start manipulating those, energizing those, it'll bring
the emotion up. So I definitely make people cry a lot.
(10:44):
One of our slogans is better out than in. Yeh's
a welcome thing.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah. Yeah. Tuning forks they're set to different frequencies. How
does somebody create a specific frequency with the tuning fork?
What do they do in you know, in the metal?
Is it in you know, the weight of the metal
or something.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
It actually has to do with the length of the fork.
So the higher the frequency, the shorter the fork. The
lower the frequency, the longer the fork. It's very specifically
related to length, and then how many cycles per second
it makes, so that's hurts. So different frequencies are used
for different approaches.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
You in your book you talk about Dr Tennant, who
created the biomodulator, an ophthalmologist, homeopath and alternative medicine practitioner,
and his book was called Healing is Voltage? Well, you
know voltage electricity. You know, there's a big, you know
(11:50):
connection there. So what did you think about his work?
I mean he talks about pH balance a lot, and
the pH balance in this sounds have you done any
research with that?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Well, I think his work has really informed mine and
my understanding of our body is electrical system, which is
something none of us learn about. Most of us recognize
that our heartbeat is electric, or that our brain is electric.
Blood carries a charge nervous system, So we see the
parts and pieces, but nobody ever really speaks to the
(12:27):
whole electrical system in its entirety, the current that runs
through our body and the magnetic field that's around it.
And so his work and especially his recognition that what
we call pH also relates to voltage, and that the
body has an optimum voltage range and when that drops,
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like when the pH drops and goes into acidity, that's
low voltage, and how we need to have a certain
amount of charge across all our cell membranes in order
for everything to function properly. So he really helped me
make this switch from chemical speak to electric speak and
looking at the body through an electric health lens as
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opposed to the chemical mechanical lens that we've all been
conditioned to look through.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
So can you actually measure the voltage when you're using tuning, folks, Well.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
You know that's an interesting question. There are certainly devices
out there. Jerry makes a device and there are other devices.
I'm very much an acoustic low tech gal, and I
did get some gadgets and heart rate variability, and you know,
different things to measure before and after. But at the
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end of the day, what I really found is that
our human instruments are the most sensitive instruments, and I
get much more out of my own observation and listening
to and looking at someone else's response and observation. So
even though things like this can be measured, at the
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end of the day, in the final analysis, I kind
of found it to be a waste of time.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Do you ever work on children or babies?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Absolutely? Yeah, we absolutely work on children. And I'm going
to be a grandmother in the spring, so I will
definitely be working on a baby, exploring all the different
ways that one can gently support a baby with sound.
With kids with animals, it's always less is more. You know,
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an adult can sit through a sixty minute session, no problem,
but with kids, we always want to make sure we
hand them the tools. Kids and animals are the same way.
Adults don't care about the tools, they don't care about
what you're doing, but kids and animals want to sniff
and smell and hold and have a real solid understanding
of what is taking place before you start working with them.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
So you must if you're working not a very young
child or animal, you must have to rely on your
intuition a lot because you're not necessarily going to get
obvious feedback.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, it's really interesting how you can connect with an animal.
It's a way for anybody, really, I think maybe not anybody.
Anybody who's interested in her cares and it's curious to
do like animal communication. When I tap into the field
of an animal, and I can do this work at
a distance as well, I can see in sense and
hear very clearly what it is they're struggling with. It
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just comes through.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Do you find that, you know, if you're working with
someone who's got a lot of pain, you can get
an instant feedback, you know if it changes the pain.
If you're working with someone insomnia, then you've got to
wait for feedback. Do you find that, you know, different
clients report different things and that it is easier to
(15:57):
work with someone when you get an instant feedback.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Well, you know, everybody's different, right, I think this is
one of the great big lessons for me in this
work is everyone is different. Every session with everyone is different.
You never really know how things are going to land.
You know, like most approaches, it's great for many things,
but isn't an end all, be all, fixed all for everything.
I would say, at a very fundamental level, what my
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work with the tuning forks does is it relaxes subconscious
tension that people are holding. And I've really come to
the conclusion that just about every ailment that we can
suffer from is a consequence of some kind of pattern
of tension in the body that stopping the body from
being able to fix itself like it's designed to do.
(16:47):
Insomnia is just a kind of tension and rhythms that
are running too high and too fast, and so we
find where those rhythms are in the body, provide the
body with feedback of that. So the tune for it
acts like a mirror through the physics principles of resonance
and entrainment. That's how I find areas in the field
(17:08):
where the signal might be out of whack, and I'll
just stay in that area and reflect it back to
the body and say, hey, body, look, you're kind of
out of tune over here. So just like we when
we see ourselves in a mirror, maybe if we haven't
in a while and our hair is a mess, and
we have seed in our teeth. Our first instinct is
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to bring ourselves back into order. It's the exact same
with your organizing intelligence. When you reflect to the body
a place that it's out of order, will use that reflection,
that steady rhythm, that steady tone, to bring itself back
into order and relaxed.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
So this new baby, has it occurred to you to
I don't know, is it your son or your daughter
that's having the child?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
It's my son and his girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Okay, So have you asked his girlfriend whether you could
be there at the birth and use your folks to
support her? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I think that it. You know, we haven't quite gotten
there yet because it's a little ways off, but I
have heard stories of other biofield tuning practitioners who absolutely
have done that, and so it's definitely in the realm
of possibility.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
So what is the.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Most unusual use of tuning folks that you've come across.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
The most unusual? That's a good question. Well, what's coming
to mind is I recently saw a video of one
of our practitioners working with horses, and I do think
that the fact that they work so well with animals
really shows us that it's not just the placebo effect
that we've heard many many remarkable stories about dogs no
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longer being afraid of thunder, about cats becoming more social,
about horses that we're creating problems in the heard no
longer doing that. So I think that really shows us
that the sound is working in this very objective way.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I mean, sound is such a well, you know, there
are no words to describe, you know, how fantastic sound is,
and we've barely tapped the surface of understanding what it
can do. I mean, the frequency, the vibration, et cetera.
Listening to one of your little sessions on a free
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video with the Shift Network, I noticed as you were
using that tone, my whole body was resonating with it.
You know, I could feel my body, the shivers, and
the hair on my arm standing on end. I mean,
it's just astonishing that sound can do that. It can
also be very dangerous as well. I mean, you know
this talk of sound being used there's a weapon for war.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah. You know, when I was doing research for my
master thesis back in twenty ten and eleven, I was
really surprised at the lack of research on therapeutic sound.
Certainly there was plenty about music, but when it came
to sound frequencies, to audible sound frequencies, there was very,
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very little. And I realized in hindsight that a lot
of the research on sound and frequencies had been being
done by DARPA and the Department of Defense in order
to use them for evil instead of for good. Like
you said, there's a lot of sound weapons, frequency weapons,
and a kind of hiding the power of sound and
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frequency from us, or you know, getting it in people's
heads that it's pseudoscientific or woo woo in some ways.
So we just dismiss it.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, I mean, you know, we all know the famous one,
you know, and not Pus Singer's voice can shut it
a glass. I remember reading many years ago about somebody
who had noticed they got a headache in their attic room,
a French guy, I think it was, and he put
his ear to the wall and he could hear this hum.
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And then after that he started doing experiments with sound,
because that it can actually give you a headache is
quite something.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
And it can take it away too, and you take
it away.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, well that's the problem, isn't it. I Mean, there's
good and there's I first came across, you know, and
got fascinated by sound reading about Jeffrey Thompson's work twenty
five years ago, and the thought that you know, he
could you know, play these sounds on a therapy bed
in somebody's body the bones could actually start moving was
just wow. That was mind boggling. What else do you
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think we could use it for?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Well, you know, there's there are so many technologies being
discovered at the moment. We're speaking before off camera about
how they figured out how to use it to shutter
cancer cells, for example, and that's something that was being
done by Royal Raymond Rife back in the thirties and forties,
So it isn't new. I think there is really no
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end to what can be done with sound. Honestly, I
think like it is the beginning of a new frontier,
and there is still very much to discover. There's lots
of devices out there, frequency devices, but I've found that
I can accomplish an awful lot with just my low
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tech tuning forks, and don't need thirty thousand dollars machines
that read your vibe and send you vibes because we
can do so much with simple tools. We can also
accomplish a huge amount with just our own voices.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yes, and that's something that Jonathan Goldman talks about a lot.
And humming. You know, we can hum to ourselves and
you know, I've actually sung to my body in the
past when I've had a pain or something, and it
really does work.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah. I like to say that the most powerful thing
in the universe is right under our nose, and it's
our mouth.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah. Absolutely. Do you find that different sounds and tones?
You know, is there a kind of you know, people
who speak English as opposed to people who brought up
speak in German, that there's a difference that they would
have different notes that would respond you know, that they
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would respond to simply because the way that they have
been taught to you sound in their language.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
That's a really great question and something that I'm not
sure that I've taken the time to observe. But certainly
the English language is sort of square and cloggy, and
even the way that it's written, I think that it is.
There aren't really a language of sound healing and of beauty,
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and there are plenty of other languages that might be
more therapeutic to speak and singing than English. But that's
something that would be a rabbit hole yet to be
gone down. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I mean we all react respond favorably to say a
French accent, you know, which always sounds incredibly romantic. And
there's the beautiful sing song accents of Chinese and Japanese people,
and then you've got the German guttural sounds which are
not quite so attractive. So I would think that the
people who are born listening to some of those sounds
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would have some challenge listening to different ones.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, I would think so. I think that that's something
worth exploring for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
What sort of researcher you engaged in now? I mean
you've been researching, you said, for thirty years or more.
What are you doing now?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Well, currently, we have a couple of things going on.
I have a nonprofit institute called the Biofield Teening Institute,
and we conduct grant funded, peer reviewed research on the
biofield and the biofield tuning approach. We just completed a
year two of a three year study with one hundred volunteers.
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We had sixty five of those volunteers receive five biofield
tuning sessions over zoom one hour sessions once a week,
and then we had a control group of thirty five
people who did not receive sessions but answered the same
questionnaires each week. And this is a follow up to
a feasibility study that we did and had published a
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couple of years ago, where everybody who came into the
study had clinical anxiety and everybody who left the study
no longer did. So we wanted to see, Okay, that
was fifteen people receiving three sessions, what happens with sixty
five people who receive five sessions. And so we are
in the process of collating that data now. We'll be
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writing it up for peer review in the first half
of next year. So this is exciting because tuning forks
and energy fields sounds out there, and having peer reviewed
research with very solid evidence of decline and in some
cases complete removal of people's symptoms of anxiety, it has
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been necessary but also exciting to see.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
So how does the medical establishment relate to this, because
you know, you could be taking a lot of business
away from them.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Well, I find it very interesting that Western medicine is
starting to grasp electricity in the body. What they're really
still missing is the magnetic field aspect. Again, we've been
conditioned to think of things like auras or human energy
fields as nonsense and you know, something that doesn't exist.
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But we all learned in grade school that anything that
has electric current running through it has a magnetic field
around it, and the human body is no different. I
will say that this work. Does you know that. I
can't tell you how many times I've had people say
to me, I got more out of three sessions with
you than I did in years of therapy. Because we're
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able to go right into the memory and modulate it,
relax it, release a charge from it, release the tension
from the body. It helps people to drop their pain
stories and start to call themselves a new story. We've
gotten people off anxiety meds, thyroid meds, depression meds. We've
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had people not have to get surgery from our interventions.
So it is a disruptive technology and there is resistance
to this new paradigm, but at the end of the day,
the market drives it, and more and more people are
discovering just how powerful and effective sound healing can be.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
M Well, we're going to take a short break. Now
you're listening to what is going on I'm Sandy Sedgeber
and my guest today is pioneering researcher, inventor, practitioner and
educator in the fields of therapeutics, sound, the Human biofield
and electric health, Eileen Macusic, and we're discussing the valuable
(28:32):
information shared in her best selling books Tune in the
Human Biofield, Healing with Vibrational Sound Therapy, and Electric Body
Electric Health. We'll be back with more from Eileen Acusic
in a few moments, and also you can have an
example of what the sound does to your body. Stay tuned.
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Speaker 2 (32:44):
Welcome back, Eileen Macusick. I can't be core here in
some years ago that if there are certain notes that
we individually resonate with, it's almost like a complete match
for ourselves, if you like, and when you hear them,
the hair on the back of your neck will stand up.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Now, I've had that.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Experience with one particular singer, and you know, is it true?
Is it true that is a note that is specific
to me?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
We kind of know that it's necessarily as simple as
the note, right, because the singer is it's his or
her whole vibe. It is the that we are collections
of many, many frequencies, and some people resonate us more
than others, some collections of sounds. But you know, we
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can play with change. For us have got a handful here,
so we could actually test that question and see if
any one of the five frequencies I have handy resonates
with you more.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yeah, okay, all right, So I'm not sure how the
sound system is. Sometimes people don't always get all the
sound through or it might cut it off a little bit.
So let me just do a test, Sandy, and you
let me know how this sounds for you. So this
fork is one hundred and seventy four hrtz. This is
my primary field combing fork, and I've used lots of
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different frequencies. I've had lots of different prototypes made, really
worked with quite a lot of different forks, and I
found for me this one is the most useful for
the field combing process because it's overtones and undertones really
morph in such a way that when I get into,
say a sad memory, the sound coming out of the
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fork will sound sad. When I get into an area
holding anger, you can feel the anger in it. It's
like our bodies are always making inaudible music, and the
tuning fork overtones and undertones actually makes that music that
we're making audible, which is kind of wild. Okay, so
let's just listen to a few of these as a
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sound check, but also to see what you notice. Can
you hear that? Okay, all right, good, all right. So
I'll just activate it a few times and then you
just see what you notice.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I noticed my breathing changed.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I felt that. Yeah, it got a little wider.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Right, yeah, yeah, almost, and a little bit faster and deeper. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Right, Because it's going to show you and your body
where you're holding tension and then immediately or to release
that tension. And I would say, at the end of
the day, so much of our health is related to
our breath and how full and free and light and
grateful and easy our breath is because most of our
life force in the electric health model comes from breath.
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Go weeks without food, days without liquid, You can only
go a few minutes without breath. And that's because we
are breathing in a plasma or electrified atmosphere. Why blood
becomes bright red is because it has light in it,
and it's that light, that electric light that's getting dropped
off at your cells. And we talk about Jerry Tenants.
You need a certain amount of charge across your cell membrane.
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Most of that charge is coming from your breath. So
anything that we do to relax tension that's constricting the
breath is helping our inner battery to get stronger. Yeah,
so that's the one seventy four. And then here's the
one forty four. This is another fork that I used
for field combing. It's a little more drum maddic than
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the other one. So let's see what we noticed with
this one. One more with this one because it wants
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to do just a little bit more work. Good. What
do you notice that I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
It's difficult to articulate, but it almost as if I
felt something loosening. That's the I can desquade it, I
can't pinpoint it.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah, I think that what I found. I created the
one forty four during COVID because what I found was
was that even if people they themselves weren't in fear,
there was so much fear in the collective and this
creates a kind of hunkering down and pulling in and
a little shaking, and I was having a hard time
getting through that with my one seventy four. I was like,
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I need a bigger gun, and so I created the
one forty four with that intention. So it really does
resonate with like lockdown fear or lockdown anxiety, A lot
of the subconscious stuff that we hold maybe in our gut,
in our digestive track, right, People who have digestive issues
very often emotions that you've just stuffed down in there.
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You're holding them tight and why you maybe are struggling
with your digestion because you're you know, it's not all
like this in there, it's like and so that feeling
like it's getting in there and starting to lose and
things like. I could have sat with that one for
another five minutes, because there's like work that it wanted
to do, not just in you, but everyone who will
ever listen to this. It's it's reacting to and working
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with the collective field. Okay, let's try a different one.
We'll try a higher frequency. So this one is five
hundred and twenty eight herts, So let's listen to this
one one more.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I can't say that I felt anything happening, but I
was very aware of the fact that it seemed to
have two tones.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Yes, yeah, definitely has two tones. So with the touting forks,
we get the overtones, we get the undertones, and sometimes
in certain circumstances, certain overtones are accented, so you'll hear
kind of a dual tone, but it's always different. This
is why tuting forks have been so intriguing to me,
because they really do reflect whatever is going on in
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any given moment, and it's always different. It really shows
so much information. Let me show you one of my
my newest forks, really truly one of my favorite forks.
This one is two hundred and twenty two hertz, and
all my other forks are what to call working forks.
They want to get in the field, they want to
find what's wrong. They want to help it to sort out.
This wark is like the friend that comes over when
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you're having a bad day. It doesn't try to fix you,
just loves you just the way you are. So this
is not a working fork so much. It's like a
fork of being. It's kind of like a bell. It's
a great meditation aid to just sit with because it
brings you into one pointed focus and also informs you
with its coherence. This is better than sitting by yourself.
(40:59):
Just only be quiet. So let's listen to that good.
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Then we'll do one more.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Interesting. How you can hear it differently in each year.
You know, it's almost like, you know, when you've got
stereo and you hear it here and then all of
a sudden you hear it over there and it sounds
quite different. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
And actually, so speaking of hearing it differently in different years,
you can also combine them and do to at the
same time and create a bondaural beat. So the combination
of the one four plus the two twenty two is
what we call the peacemaker. H This one is these
are all the things that are wrong with you, and
I'm gonna get them straightened out. And this one is
I love you just the way you are. And using
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the two together is kind of interesting. So let's just
listen to two together and I'll do one more of those.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
So it almost became one note, and I could hear it.
Sounds a bit stupid, but I could hear part of
it behind me and part of it in front of me.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Oh, that's so interesting. It's not stupid, right, it's just
your observation.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, well it's one note. Then you know you're having
too different.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Well, that's the beauty of the binaural beats. So you
can pick any two forks and hold them up to
your ears and you know, just listen and it quiets
the mind right away, because I think so many people
struggle with busy minds, and so this is such an
easy way to quiet the mind and inform your body
with coherent energy. It's very simple.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
So what about working with people who can't hear?
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Well? You know, the thing is is that our bodies
are mostly water, right, and water responds to vibrational input.
So it doesn't matter if you can't hear, because your
body is an electrical system and the water in your
body are absolutely responsive to vibrational inputs.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
You know, we forget, don't we how much? I can
remember being in an airport a few years ago and
the noise, you know, the tannoi that flight's being announced,
the music, different music in different restaurants and out, and
I became acutely aware of the noise, and it made
me think about how we used to live. You know,
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people who'd lived on a farm, they never heard that
kind of thing. You know, they'd hear the sounds of
the animals, maybe the wind, maybe people talking. But you know,
what have we done to ourselves with this overplay of sounds?
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Leaf blowers lawnmowers on weekends. I never mind all the
sounds that we can't hear. You know, even things like
windmills create ultrasonic and infrasonic frequencies that do impact people,
so we do. There is a tremendous amount of noise
pollution in the world and it causes stress. Well. I
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used to own a busy restaurant and there'd be compressors
and dishwashers and customers and cash registers and machines, and
then every once in a while the power would go
out and we would all go whoo because we didn't
realize all the subconscious tension that we were holding against
the fluorescent lights and the sounds and the noises, and
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when it all went away, you're like, ah. So it
definitely creates a lot of stress and tension, and it's
ubiquitous in the world today.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes I'll go to the movies and the
sound will be so loud that it's painful and I
have to sit there with and close my ears because
it hurts. Yeah, there's so much sound that really is unnecessary,
and we are being informed by it the whole time.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
How how do you teach people to do this? I mean,
I know you train practitioners, but is this something that
I could do for myself?
Speaker 3 (45:47):
You know, it's really interesting. I started teaching my first
students back in twenty ten, and one of my brothers
said to me, he's like, can you teach other people
to do what you do? Because I've been doing it
for fourteen years and I was the only person who
was doing it. And I said, well, I don't know
who you're about to find out. And I was truly
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amazed that everyone picked it up relatively quickly, because you
don't have to be psychic or really anything. In fact,
I call my practitioners technicians that it's really just your
job to comb through the field until you feel a
sense of resistance and you feel the vibration change in
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your fingertips, and then all you have to do is
stay there and let the body sort itself out. Once
the body has organized itself released the tension it was holding,
then you just move along to the next spot. And
if you want to know what the memories are, you
can plot them on the biofield anatomy map and you
can say, okay, according to the biofield anatomy map, this
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memory is around ten years old, and it's in the
zone that relates to your mother and people that they
want to talk about that experience because they'll, you know,
very often remember like, oh that was when my mother
left us. They can talk about it, and all we
do is witness. We just provide a container to listen.
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If they don't want to talk about it, the body
still sorts itself out and we're able. It's really sort
of like combing through tangled hair that very often our
wiring just kind of ends up tangled, and that causes
our overall voltage to drop because there's so much resistance
in the flow of the signal, and so as we
help people to relax, their overall voltage goes up. So
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it is not hard to do. Once you understand what
that tension is and what that feeling is, you pick
it up right away. It's a very very simple practice,
and people can do it on themselves as well, which
is kind of interesting. And the way that we invite
people to learn to do it on themselves is the
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same way that we do this work at a distance.
So I know it sounds like tuning for a healing
at a distance sound like ridiculous. I certainly felt that way.
People asked me for years if I could do it
at a distance, and I always said no until I
tried it and discovered that that same pattern of information
and energy that shows up around people when they're on
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my table showed up around an empty table somewhat amazingly. Right,
So so we can do it that way as well.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
So this is something that lends itself as a collaborative
therapy in many ways. You know, you could see a
psychologist using this to loosen somebody up, and you know,
it's great to be able to say, well, what about
your mother? You know there's something coming up here, and
just be able to guide people, and it would be
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great in kinesiology as well.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
Yeah, what's beautiful about this approach is that it links
with all different kinds of therapies. Really well, we have
doctor holistic nurses, chiropractors, osteopaths, psychotherapists, counselors, coaches, massage therapists.
Really many people can figure out a way to take
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this approach and and blend it into what they're already doing.
It's very versatile, very versatile.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
What's I noticed on your website that you've got a
lot of free audio downloads for different ailments. You know,
how how are you creating those? Is it from the
body map that you've worked out these particular tones that
the thyroid or the hip or the spine resonates with.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
It's not so much about the tones. I know people
are often looking for magic frequencies that will fix this.
You know, what's the frequency for depression? In our model,
it doesn't really work that way. We know where the
area in the bile field is that when someone is
depressed that energy piles up. It's off the left shoulder
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and so well, and it's like almost like you know,
heavy clouds and we talk about wet blankets or being
under the weather. Uh, it's like a low pressure system
in our atmosphere sitting there and will come in and
bust that area up and get energy moving. So it's
not giving us that feeling. So there may be magical
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frequencies that do magical things, but that's not how our
work works. We really do work with the map and
locating tonal patterns in specific areas. I might pull out
the one seventy four first, and then maybe someone forty four,
and then a little five twenty eight, so you know,
I'm mixing it up based on what I'm encountering. So
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some of those are a consequence of me field combing
through a hologram and doing an adjustment that way. Some
are just me tuning in and listening. Like there's a
couple sessions on the mitochondria, and in those, all I'm
doing is tuning into the mitochondria in my mind's eye
and just activating the fork over and over again in
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relationship to what is going on there. So they're all
a little bit different. We have a very big library
of all different kinds of things that are interesting, Like
we have a so as release series, and the so
as muscle goes from the low back through the hips
to the top of the thigh. Very often is a
muscle that's short and tight and difficult to stretch. And
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you listen to these three one hour recordings and your
whole so as muscles just kind of melt and elongate
and soften. Kind of odd, but very helpful. Another series
we have is in a dreamal reset series, because a
lot of people have a dreanal exhaustion, and that's one
of me combing through the field of the hologram finding
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the adrenal rhythm that's too high and too fast and
inviting it to become self aware and reset itself. So
it's a very different approach than like going to a
holistic doctor and getting a whole bunch of supplements pushed
at you. Because ultimately, everything in your body is rhythmic,
and if everything is at its right rhythm and working
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well together, then you're going to experience regulation and health.
But many of us have things are too fast, too high,
too low, too slow. But we're all designed to be
in harmony. That's our factory setting, and humans ultimately are
self tuning instruments and all we have to do is
have a reflection of where we're out of tune and
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something to support us getting back in, and the body
goes there, which is really kind of amazing.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Do you ever use other instruments or is it only
tune in folks?
Speaker 3 (52:54):
I use voice as well. I use voice, and I
encourage people to use their voice. Like if I'm working
with someone who has heavy energy in their heart, I
might take a weighted tuning fork like this. I know
your listeners can't see it, but it's a tuning fork
that has barrels on the end. And what those do
is they drive the sound into the body. So I
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might put a weighted fork on somebody's sternum and invite
them to make the sound yah and up and through
the tuning fork for the purpose of opening and relaxing
and releasing the heart and lifting that heavy energy off.
So the combination of the voice from within and the
tuning forks from without really helps to open and release
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and relax in a beautiful way.
Speaker 2 (53:41):
You know, I've noticed that people don't whistle anymore. You know,
people used to whistle in the street when they were happy,
or they'd be singing to themselves. We don't tend to.
It's funny because we make a lot of noise in public,
talking on our phone when we think nobody around us
is and everybody can hear, But we don't allow ourselves
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to make noises that actually benefit us. It's around us.
Speaker 3 (54:09):
Yeah, I agree. I think that's for a number of reasons.
I think a lot of people have very overactive minds,
and I think a lot of people don't have the
free and easy spirit that gives rise to whistling, that
gives rise to humming. We're fairly embattled, embittered and stressed
in our culture, and something as simple as humming can
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be very helpful in the model that I work with
called the sonic anatomy. Humming is resonates the bones, and
so you can take a hum then move it all
around in your body and resonate your bones and that
will increase your energy level. And it's so simple and
so easy.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
Yeah. Well, we're almost out of time now. Have you
got any courses coming up?
Speaker 3 (54:57):
Have I got courses coming up? Well, it's sort of
ongoing course with biofield Tuning certification. We have a two
part certification program. People are interested in learning more about that.
I teach a course called Seeing the Body Electric where
we explore the forty two different tones of the sonic anatomy.
That's it's Seeingthebodyelectric dot com. You can learn about that
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and I do. I go to a lot of different
events during the year. So can check out my events
page at Biofieldteening dot com and see what else is
coming up.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Thank you so much for being with us today, Eileen,
it's been a really instructive.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
Nice Thank you so much. Sandy, it's been a pleasure
to speak with you.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
So Electric Body Electric Health by Eileen Macusick is published
by Saint Martin's Essentials and for more information about her books, events,
sound therapy sessions both three and those that are available
for purchase, you can visit her website at Biofieldtunin dot com.
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And what was the other one, Sing your Body Electric,
Sing No Body Electric, Bodyelectric dot com. I'll check that
one out. That's it for this week. I'm Sandy said Beer.
I'll be back at the same time next week with
another edition of What Is going On? Till then, It's
goodbye for me and thank you. Eileen mcusick
Welcome to what is going on for New Thought from
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Here is your host, Sandy Sedgeber.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello with me today to share how we can transform
our relationship with our body, mind, and emotions and alleviate pain, insomnia, depression,
and numerous other elements by learning to think electrically. Is
pioneering researcher in sound healing therapy Eileen dy Mecusic, MA,
(01:02):
who spent more than twenty years exploring a mapping the
human biofield and is the award winning author of the
book's Tuning the Human Biofield Healing with Vibrational Sound Therapy
and Electric Body Electric Health. Eileen Macusic, Welcome, Hi, Sandy,
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so you live Your book Tune In the Human bio
Field won the Nautilus Award. It's based on your master's
thesis exploring the effects of audible sound on the human body.
Where did your journey with sound begin.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
My journey with sound began in nineteen ninety six when
I found a set of tuning forks for healing in
a Gaya catalog and at the time I was doing
massage therapy just part time, and I decided to get
them and start experimenting with them. And twenty almost twenty
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nine years later, I'm still experimenting with them.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
So what was your first experience with them?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Well, the team firks really surprised me, and actually I
would say that they continued to surprise me, which is
part of the reason why I've still been using them.
I like to be surprised, I guess, and so I
remember very distinctly one of my massage clients, one of
the first people that I used them with. Now, I
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had no idea what I was doing. They came with
very simple instructions. It was the c major scale as
related to the chakras, and said, you see on the
route dyond the sacral e, on the solar and so on.
So I just started activating them and moving them around
people's bodies. And I had a gentleman who came to
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see me because he had a very sore shoulder, and
I asked him if he was willing to be a
guinea pig, and I held the tuning fork over his
shoulder and the tone went very sharp. And then I
held it over his other shoulder and it sounded normal.
And so I went back to the sore shoulder, and
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I kept activating the fork and holding it over that
shoulder until finally, after just a little bit, it sounded
like the other shoulder. And then he got up off
the table and he rotated his arm and he said,
oh my god, Eileen, all the pain is gone. And
we were both very surprised about that, because neither one
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of us had any expectation. So that intrigued me. And
with each person that came in that was willing to
be experimented on, I kept making more and more discoveries
about how the sound was interacting with the body.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Who first invented the tune in forks? I mean, you know,
sound has been used for healing for millennia, you know,
with musical instruments drums and digiwidoo's and things like that,
But who actually invented the forks?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well, I believe tuning forks to use to tune instruments
were invented in the allegedly in the seventeen hundreds, although
apparently there have been things that are tuning fork like
discovered in ancient Egypt, so who knows how long they've
really been around. However, there are three gentlemen in the
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seventies and eighties, Fabian Maman, Jonathan Goldman, and John Bolu
all were using tuning forks before I got a hold
of them, and they have all developed their own approaches
with them.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Wow, so you discovered that the human biofield contains a
very specific anatomy and physiology which can be successfully modulated
with them. How did you discover that? Was it just
by opposit evation practicing with different clients and seeing the
difference it made.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, it was really kind of a blind fumble in
the dark with momentary flashes of illumination that started to
reveal patterns. So it was really kind of a process
of pattern recognition over the course of a number of years.
When I discovered that, you know, just like our inside
anatomy is pretty much the same from person to person,
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that the atmosphere around the body actually had an anatomy
and physiology. It's like this terrain kind of hidden in
plane view, and I was using the tuning forks like
echo location, bouncing sound off the body. And then after
ten years of doing that, I accidentally discovered that there
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was stuff going on in the atmosphere around the body.
And so it's really at the process of sounding into
and then listening to the pingbag. Just like ultrasound gives
us a picture of what we cannot see, the tuning
forks kind of revealed the same thing, the texture and
patterning in the field around the body. And this led
to what I call the bilefield anatomy map.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So how did you actually create that? Was that again
for through observation and just noticing if I, you know,
this person's got this kind of problem and if I
press there, this is what's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah. Yeah, it was, you know, just sort of something
like I had a lot of people would come in
and they would have right hip pain, and I discovered
that they had a lot of charge or energy sense
of resistance in the fork and a change in tone
in the magnetic field around that particular area. And I
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discovered somewhat oddly that I could move these areas of
charge in the magnetic field with the tuning fork. That
the tuning fork became like a magnetic stylust in my hand,
and I could do magnetic fields that would lead to
a change in the way electricity was flowing through the body.
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And I also found that each area of pain that
people had, there seemed to be an associated mental emotional
imbalance that was informing it. So, for example, very often
people with right hip issues sciatica right hip pain have
a tendency to overdo and overthink, to project themselves into
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the future, to run to do lists, to have sort
of an inner task master, and so they're not resting
in the present moment. They're pushing themselves out in front
of themselves in this kind of busy way. And when
our magnetic field, our mind, our emotions go out of balance,
it pulls the body with it. And so I discovered
that I could in adjusting the magnetic field. It was
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sort of like adjusting someone's mind. And then I would
give them some coaching around the importance of staying in
the present moment, checking their thoughts when they had a
twinge or a flare up, like what was your mind doing,
and then bringing themselves back into the now. And found
that that was an extremely effective way for helping people
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not only get out of pain or discomfort, but connect
to their own bad habits that were leading to that
in the first place.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Have you found, you know, chets quite often, you know,
a practitioner can press on a certain area and somebody
just dissolves into tears. Have you found the same thing
happening with the tuning folks?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Mm hmm. In fact, I've talked about getting a T
shirt made that says I make people cry because I'm
very good. Essentially, what I discovered that the biofield is,
or the body's biomagnetic field, is what we would call
our mind. It's our conscious mind, it's our subconscious mind.
It's where all our memories are stored. You know, we're
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all told that our memories in the brain, and they
might be there, but I found them in this very
specific way in the magnetic field and part of the
bio field mapping the left shoulder. For example, every time
we feel sad, we are laying those memories of those
sad feelings off of the left shoulder. So if I
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am combing through someone's field, I can find through the
way the fork changes the resistance that I feel in
my fingertips specific sad memories, and I can determine what
age they are because the field is sort of stratified
and it's timelined. So as we generate information in each moment,
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we're sort of laying down these tracks within our field,
and information moves away from us. So our field is
about six feet it extends six feet out from our
body on average, and information I find close to the
body is current or recently generated. Information I found at
the outer boundary of field, and it is a bubble.
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There is a membrane there that we can feel. That
membrane contains information from gestation than birth. So when I
start six feet away from your body and start moving
the vibrating tuning fork through your field, it's literally like
dropping a needle on an album and reading the vibrational
record of your life. And so any place where there's
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highs or lows, the tuning fork is going to reflect that.
So I can find these undigested, unexpressed memories, like pooking
around your brain. Almost then I can find the tender places,
and when you start manipulating those, energizing those, it'll bring
the emotion up. So I definitely make people cry a lot.
(10:44):
One of our slogans is better out than in. Yeh's
a welcome thing.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah. Yeah. Tuning forks they're set to different frequencies. How
does somebody create a specific frequency with the tuning fork?
What do they do in you know, in the metal?
Is it in you know, the weight of the metal
or something.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
It actually has to do with the length of the fork.
So the higher the frequency, the shorter the fork. The
lower the frequency, the longer the fork. It's very specifically
related to length, and then how many cycles per second
it makes, so that's hurts. So different frequencies are used
for different approaches.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
You in your book you talk about Dr Tennant, who
created the biomodulator, an ophthalmologist, homeopath and alternative medicine practitioner,
and his book was called Healing is Voltage? Well, you
know voltage electricity. You know, there's a big, you know
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connection there. So what did you think about his work?
I mean he talks about pH balance a lot, and
the pH balance in this sounds have you done any
research with that?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Well, I think his work has really informed mine and
my understanding of our body is electrical system, which is
something none of us learn about. Most of us recognize
that our heartbeat is electric, or that our brain is electric.
Blood carries a charge nervous system, So we see the
parts and pieces, but nobody ever really speaks to the
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whole electrical system in its entirety, the current that runs
through our body and the magnetic field that's around it.
And so his work and especially his recognition that what
we call pH also relates to voltage, and that the
body has an optimum voltage range and when that drops,
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like when the pH drops and goes into acidity, that's
low voltage, and how we need to have a certain
amount of charge across all our cell membranes in order
for everything to function properly. So he really helped me
make this switch from chemical speak to electric speak and
looking at the body through an electric health lens as
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opposed to the chemical mechanical lens that we've all been
conditioned to look through.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
So can you actually measure the voltage when you're using tuning, folks, Well.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
You know that's an interesting question. There are certainly devices
out there. Jerry makes a device and there are other devices.
I'm very much an acoustic low tech gal, and I
did get some gadgets and heart rate variability, and you know,
different things to measure before and after. But at the
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end of the day, what I really found is that
our human instruments are the most sensitive instruments, and I
get much more out of my own observation and listening
to and looking at someone else's response and observation. So
even though things like this can be measured, at the
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end of the day, in the final analysis, I kind
of found it to be a waste of time.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Do you ever work on children or babies?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Absolutely? Yeah, we absolutely work on children. And I'm going
to be a grandmother in the spring, so I will
definitely be working on a baby, exploring all the different
ways that one can gently support a baby with sound.
With kids with animals, it's always less is more. You know,
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an adult can sit through a sixty minute session, no problem,
but with kids, we always want to make sure we
hand them the tools. Kids and animals are the same way.
Adults don't care about the tools, they don't care about
what you're doing, but kids and animals want to sniff
and smell and hold and have a real solid understanding
of what is taking place before you start working with them.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
So you must if you're working not a very young
child or animal, you must have to rely on your
intuition a lot because you're not necessarily going to get
obvious feedback.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, it's really interesting how you can connect with an animal.
It's a way for anybody, really, I think maybe not anybody.
Anybody who's interested in her cares and it's curious to
do like animal communication. When I tap into the field
of an animal, and I can do this work at
a distance as well, I can see in sense and
hear very clearly what it is they're struggling with. It
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just comes through.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Do you find that, you know, if you're working with
someone who's got a lot of pain, you can get
an instant feedback, you know if it changes the pain.
If you're working with someone insomnia, then you've got to
wait for feedback. Do you find that, you know, different
clients report different things and that it is easier to
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work with someone when you get an instant feedback.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Well, you know, everybody's different, right, I think this is
one of the great big lessons for me in this
work is everyone is different. Every session with everyone is different.
You never really know how things are going to land.
You know, like most approaches, it's great for many things,
but isn't an end all, be all, fixed all for everything.
I would say, at a very fundamental level, what my
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work with the tuning forks does is it relaxes subconscious
tension that people are holding. And I've really come to
the conclusion that just about every ailment that we can
suffer from is a consequence of some kind of pattern
of tension in the body that stopping the body from
being able to fix itself like it's designed to do.
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Insomnia is just a kind of tension and rhythms that
are running too high and too fast, and so we
find where those rhythms are in the body, provide the
body with feedback of that. So the tune for it
acts like a mirror through the physics principles of resonance
and entrainment. That's how I find areas in the field
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where the signal might be out of whack, and I'll
just stay in that area and reflect it back to
the body and say, hey, body, look, you're kind of
out of tune over here. So just like we when
we see ourselves in a mirror, maybe if we haven't
in a while and our hair is a mess, and
we have seed in our teeth. Our first instinct is
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to bring ourselves back into order. It's the exact same
with your organizing intelligence. When you reflect to the body
a place that it's out of order, will use that reflection,
that steady rhythm, that steady tone, to bring itself back
into order and relaxed.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
So this new baby, has it occurred to you to
I don't know, is it your son or your daughter
that's having the child?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
It's my son and his girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Okay, So have you asked his girlfriend whether you could
be there at the birth and use your folks to
support her? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I think that it. You know, we haven't quite gotten
there yet because it's a little ways off, but I
have heard stories of other biofield tuning practitioners who absolutely
have done that, and so it's definitely in the realm
of possibility.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
So what is the.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Most unusual use of tuning folks that you've come across.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
The most unusual? That's a good question. Well, what's coming
to mind is I recently saw a video of one
of our practitioners working with horses, and I do think
that the fact that they work so well with animals
really shows us that it's not just the placebo effect
that we've heard many many remarkable stories about dogs no
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longer being afraid of thunder, about cats becoming more social,
about horses that we're creating problems in the heard no
longer doing that. So I think that really shows us
that the sound is working in this very objective way.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I mean, sound is such a well, you know, there
are no words to describe, you know, how fantastic sound is,
and we've barely tapped the surface of understanding what it
can do. I mean, the frequency, the vibration, et cetera.
Listening to one of your little sessions on a free
(19:31):
video with the Shift Network, I noticed as you were
using that tone, my whole body was resonating with it.
You know, I could feel my body, the shivers, and
the hair on my arm standing on end. I mean,
it's just astonishing that sound can do that. It can
also be very dangerous as well. I mean, you know
this talk of sound being used there's a weapon for war.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah. You know, when I was doing research for my
master thesis back in twenty ten and eleven, I was
really surprised at the lack of research on therapeutic sound.
Certainly there was plenty about music, but when it came
to sound frequencies, to audible sound frequencies, there was very,
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very little. And I realized in hindsight that a lot
of the research on sound and frequencies had been being
done by DARPA and the Department of Defense in order
to use them for evil instead of for good. Like
you said, there's a lot of sound weapons, frequency weapons,
and a kind of hiding the power of sound and
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frequency from us, or you know, getting it in people's
heads that it's pseudoscientific or woo woo in some ways.
So we just dismiss it.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, I mean, you know, we all know the famous one,
you know, and not Pus Singer's voice can shut it
a glass. I remember reading many years ago about somebody
who had noticed they got a headache in their attic room,
a French guy, I think it was, and he put
his ear to the wall and he could hear this hum.
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And then after that he started doing experiments with sound,
because that it can actually give you a headache is
quite something.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
And it can take it away too, and you take
it away.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, well that's the problem, isn't it. I Mean, there's
good and there's I first came across, you know, and
got fascinated by sound reading about Jeffrey Thompson's work twenty
five years ago, and the thought that you know, he
could you know, play these sounds on a therapy bed
in somebody's body the bones could actually start moving was
just wow. That was mind boggling. What else do you
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think we could use it for?
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Well, you know, there's there are so many technologies being
discovered at the moment. We're speaking before off camera about
how they figured out how to use it to shutter
cancer cells, for example, and that's something that was being
done by Royal Raymond Rife back in the thirties and forties,
So it isn't new. I think there is really no
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end to what can be done with sound. Honestly, I
think like it is the beginning of a new frontier,
and there is still very much to discover. There's lots
of devices out there, frequency devices, but I've found that
I can accomplish an awful lot with just my low
(22:37):
tech tuning forks, and don't need thirty thousand dollars machines
that read your vibe and send you vibes because we
can do so much with simple tools. We can also
accomplish a huge amount with just our own voices.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yes, and that's something that Jonathan Goldman talks about a lot.
And humming. You know, we can hum to ourselves and
you know, I've actually sung to my body in the
past when I've had a pain or something, and it
really does work.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah. I like to say that the most powerful thing
in the universe is right under our nose, and it's
our mouth.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah. Absolutely. Do you find that different sounds and tones?
You know, is there a kind of you know, people
who speak English as opposed to people who brought up
speak in German, that there's a difference that they would
have different notes that would respond you know, that they
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would respond to simply because the way that they have
been taught to you sound in their language.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
You know.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
That's a really great question and something that I'm not
sure that I've taken the time to observe. But certainly
the English language is sort of square and cloggy, and
even the way that it's written, I think that it is.
There aren't really a language of sound healing and of beauty,
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and there are plenty of other languages that might be
more therapeutic to speak and singing than English. But that's
something that would be a rabbit hole yet to be
gone down. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I mean we all react respond favorably to say a
French accent, you know, which always sounds incredibly romantic. And
there's the beautiful sing song accents of Chinese and Japanese people,
and then you've got the German guttural sounds which are
not quite so attractive. So I would think that the
people who are born listening to some of those sounds
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would have some challenge listening to different ones.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, I would think so. I think that that's something
worth exploring for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
What sort of researcher you engaged in now? I mean
you've been researching, you said, for thirty years or more.
What are you doing now?
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Well, currently, we have a couple of things going on.
I have a nonprofit institute called the Biofield Teening Institute,
and we conduct grant funded, peer reviewed research on the
biofield and the biofield tuning approach. We just completed a
year two of a three year study with one hundred volunteers.
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We had sixty five of those volunteers receive five biofield
tuning sessions over zoom one hour sessions once a week,
and then we had a control group of thirty five
people who did not receive sessions but answered the same
questionnaires each week. And this is a follow up to
a feasibility study that we did and had published a
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couple of years ago, where everybody who came into the
study had clinical anxiety and everybody who left the study
no longer did. So we wanted to see, Okay, that
was fifteen people receiving three sessions, what happens with sixty
five people who receive five sessions. And so we are
in the process of collating that data now. We'll be
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writing it up for peer review in the first half
of next year. So this is exciting because tuning forks
and energy fields sounds out there, and having peer reviewed
research with very solid evidence of decline and in some
cases complete removal of people's symptoms of anxiety, it has
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been necessary but also exciting to see.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
So how does the medical establishment relate to this, because
you know, you could be taking a lot of business
away from them.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Well, I find it very interesting that Western medicine is
starting to grasp electricity in the body. What they're really
still missing is the magnetic field aspect. Again, we've been
conditioned to think of things like auras or human energy
fields as nonsense and you know, something that doesn't exist.
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But we all learned in grade school that anything that
has electric current running through it has a magnetic field
around it, and the human body is no different. I
will say that this work. Does you know that. I
can't tell you how many times I've had people say
to me, I got more out of three sessions with
you than I did in years of therapy. Because we're
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able to go right into the memory and modulate it,
relax it, release a charge from it, release the tension
from the body. It helps people to drop their pain
stories and start to call themselves a new story. We've
gotten people off anxiety meds, thyroid meds, depression meds. We've
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had people not have to get surgery from our interventions.
So it is a disruptive technology and there is resistance
to this new paradigm, but at the end of the day,
the market drives it, and more and more people are
discovering just how powerful and effective sound healing can be.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
M Well, we're going to take a short break. Now
you're listening to what is going on I'm Sandy Sedgeber
and my guest today is pioneering researcher, inventor, practitioner and
educator in the fields of therapeutics, sound, the Human biofield
and electric health, Eileen Macusic, and we're discussing the valuable
(28:32):
information shared in her best selling books Tune in the
Human Biofield, Healing with Vibrational Sound Therapy, and Electric Body
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in a few moments, and also you can have an
example of what the sound does to your body. Stay tuned.
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Welcome back, Eileen Macusick. I can't be core here in
some years ago that if there are certain notes that
we individually resonate with, it's almost like a complete match
for ourselves, if you like, and when you hear them,
the hair on the back of your neck will stand up.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Now, I've had that.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Experience with one particular singer, and you know, is it true?
Is it true that is a note that is specific
to me?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
We kind of know that it's necessarily as simple as
the note, right, because the singer is it's his or
her whole vibe. It is the that we are collections
of many, many frequencies, and some people resonate us more
than others, some collections of sounds. But you know, we
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can play with change. For us have got a handful here,
so we could actually test that question and see if
any one of the five frequencies I have handy resonates
with you more.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yeah, okay, all right, So I'm not sure how the
sound system is. Sometimes people don't always get all the
sound through or it might cut it off a little bit.
So let me just do a test, Sandy, and you
let me know how this sounds for you. So this
fork is one hundred and seventy four hrtz. This is
my primary field combing fork, and I've used lots of
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different frequencies. I've had lots of different prototypes made, really
worked with quite a lot of different forks, and I
found for me this one is the most useful for
the field combing process because it's overtones and undertones really
morph in such a way that when I get into,
say a sad memory, the sound coming out of the
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fork will sound sad. When I get into an area
holding anger, you can feel the anger in it. It's
like our bodies are always making inaudible music, and the
tuning fork overtones and undertones actually makes that music that
we're making audible, which is kind of wild. Okay, so
let's just listen to a few of these as a
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sound check, but also to see what you notice. Can
you hear that? Okay, all right, good, all right. So
I'll just activate it a few times and then you
just see what you notice.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I noticed my breathing changed.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I felt that. Yeah, it got a little wider.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Right, yeah, yeah, almost, and a little bit faster and deeper. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Right, Because it's going to show you and your body
where you're holding tension and then immediately or to release
that tension. And I would say, at the end of
the day, so much of our health is related to
our breath and how full and free and light and
grateful and easy our breath is because most of our
life force in the electric health model comes from breath.
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Go weeks without food, days without liquid, You can only
go a few minutes without breath. And that's because we
are breathing in a plasma or electrified atmosphere. Why blood
becomes bright red is because it has light in it,
and it's that light, that electric light that's getting dropped
off at your cells. And we talk about Jerry Tenants.
You need a certain amount of charge across your cell membrane.
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Most of that charge is coming from your breath. So
anything that we do to relax tension that's constricting the
breath is helping our inner battery to get stronger. Yeah,
so that's the one seventy four. And then here's the
one forty four. This is another fork that I used
for field combing. It's a little more drum maddic than
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the other one. So let's see what we noticed with
this one. One more with this one because it wants
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to do just a little bit more work. Good. What
do you notice that I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
It's difficult to articulate, but it almost as if I
felt something loosening. That's the I can desquade it, I
can't pinpoint it.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yeah, I think that what I found. I created the
one forty four during COVID because what I found was
was that even if people they themselves weren't in fear,
there was so much fear in the collective and this
creates a kind of hunkering down and pulling in and
a little shaking, and I was having a hard time
getting through that with my one seventy four. I was like,
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I need a bigger gun, and so I created the
one forty four with that intention. So it really does
resonate with like lockdown fear or lockdown anxiety, A lot
of the subconscious stuff that we hold maybe in our gut,
in our digestive track, right, People who have digestive issues
very often emotions that you've just stuffed down in there.
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You're holding them tight and why you maybe are struggling
with your digestion because you're you know, it's not all
like this in there, it's like and so that feeling
like it's getting in there and starting to lose and
things like. I could have sat with that one for
another five minutes, because there's like work that it wanted
to do, not just in you, but everyone who will
ever listen to this. It's it's reacting to and working
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with the collective field. Okay, let's try a different one.
We'll try a higher frequency. So this one is five
hundred and twenty eight herts, So let's listen to this
one one more.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I can't say that I felt anything happening, but I
was very aware of the fact that it seemed to
have two tones.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Yes, yeah, definitely has two tones. So with the touting forks,
we get the overtones, we get the undertones, and sometimes
in certain circumstances, certain overtones are accented, so you'll hear
kind of a dual tone, but it's always different. This
is why tuting forks have been so intriguing to me,
because they really do reflect whatever is going on in
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any given moment, and it's always different. It really shows
so much information. Let me show you one of my
my newest forks, really truly one of my favorite forks.
This one is two hundred and twenty two hertz, and
all my other forks are what to call working forks.
They want to get in the field, they want to
find what's wrong. They want to help it to sort out.
This wark is like the friend that comes over when
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you're having a bad day. It doesn't try to fix you,
just loves you just the way you are. So this
is not a working fork so much. It's like a
fork of being. It's kind of like a bell. It's
a great meditation aid to just sit with because it
brings you into one pointed focus and also informs you
with its coherence. This is better than sitting by yourself.
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Just only be quiet. So let's listen to that good.
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Then we'll do one more.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Interesting. How you can hear it differently in each year.
You know, it's almost like, you know, when you've got
stereo and you hear it here and then all of
a sudden you hear it over there and it sounds
quite different. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
And actually, so speaking of hearing it differently in different years,
you can also combine them and do to at the
same time and create a bondaural beat. So the combination
of the one four plus the two twenty two is
what we call the peacemaker. H This one is these
are all the things that are wrong with you, and
I'm gonna get them straightened out. And this one is
I love you just the way you are. And using
(42:08):
the two together is kind of interesting. So let's just
listen to two together and I'll do one more of those.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
So it almost became one note, and I could hear it.
Sounds a bit stupid, but I could hear part of
it behind me and part of it in front of me.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Oh, that's so interesting. It's not stupid, right, it's just
your observation.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, well it's one note. Then you know you're having
too different.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Well, that's the beauty of the binaural beats. So you
can pick any two forks and hold them up to
your ears and you know, just listen and it quiets
the mind right away, because I think so many people
struggle with busy minds, and so this is such an
easy way to quiet the mind and inform your body
with coherent energy. It's very simple.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
So what about working with people who can't hear?
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Well? You know, the thing is is that our bodies
are mostly water, right, and water responds to vibrational input.
So it doesn't matter if you can't hear, because your
body is an electrical system and the water in your
body are absolutely responsive to vibrational inputs.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
You know, we forget, don't we how much? I can
remember being in an airport a few years ago and
the noise, you know, the tannoi that flight's being announced,
the music, different music in different restaurants and out, and
I became acutely aware of the noise, and it made
me think about how we used to live. You know,
(44:07):
people who'd lived on a farm, they never heard that
kind of thing. You know, they'd hear the sounds of
the animals, maybe the wind, maybe people talking. But you know,
what have we done to ourselves with this overplay of sounds?
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Leaf blowers lawnmowers on weekends. I never mind all the
sounds that we can't hear. You know, even things like
windmills create ultrasonic and infrasonic frequencies that do impact people,
so we do. There is a tremendous amount of noise
pollution in the world and it causes stress. Well. I
(44:45):
used to own a busy restaurant and there'd be compressors
and dishwashers and customers and cash registers and machines, and
then every once in a while the power would go
out and we would all go whoo because we didn't
realize all the subconscious tension that we were holding against
the fluorescent lights and the sounds and the noises, and
(45:06):
when it all went away, you're like, ah. So it
definitely creates a lot of stress and tension, and it's
ubiquitous in the world today.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes I'll go to the movies and the
sound will be so loud that it's painful and I
have to sit there with and close my ears because
it hurts. Yeah, there's so much sound that really is unnecessary,
and we are being informed by it the whole time.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
How how do you teach people to do this? I mean,
I know you train practitioners, but is this something that
I could do for myself?
Speaker 3 (45:47):
You know, it's really interesting. I started teaching my first
students back in twenty ten, and one of my brothers
said to me, he's like, can you teach other people
to do what you do? Because I've been doing it
for fourteen years and I was the only person who
was doing it. And I said, well, I don't know
who you're about to find out. And I was truly
(46:07):
amazed that everyone picked it up relatively quickly, because you
don't have to be psychic or really anything. In fact,
I call my practitioners technicians that it's really just your
job to comb through the field until you feel a
sense of resistance and you feel the vibration change in
(46:29):
your fingertips, and then all you have to do is
stay there and let the body sort itself out. Once
the body has organized itself released the tension it was holding,
then you just move along to the next spot. And
if you want to know what the memories are, you
can plot them on the biofield anatomy map and you
can say, okay, according to the biofield anatomy map, this
(46:51):
memory is around ten years old, and it's in the
zone that relates to your mother and people that they
want to talk about that experience because they'll, you know,
very often remember like, oh that was when my mother
left us. They can talk about it, and all we
do is witness. We just provide a container to listen.
(47:12):
If they don't want to talk about it, the body
still sorts itself out and we're able. It's really sort
of like combing through tangled hair that very often our
wiring just kind of ends up tangled, and that causes
our overall voltage to drop because there's so much resistance
in the flow of the signal, and so as we
help people to relax, their overall voltage goes up. So
(47:37):
it is not hard to do. Once you understand what
that tension is and what that feeling is, you pick
it up right away. It's a very very simple practice,
and people can do it on themselves as well, which
is kind of interesting. And the way that we invite
people to learn to do it on themselves is the
(47:57):
same way that we do this work at a distance.
So I know it sounds like tuning for a healing
at a distance sound like ridiculous. I certainly felt that way.
People asked me for years if I could do it
at a distance, and I always said no until I
tried it and discovered that that same pattern of information
and energy that shows up around people when they're on
(48:19):
my table showed up around an empty table somewhat amazingly. Right,
So so we can do it that way as well.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
So this is something that lends itself as a collaborative
therapy in many ways. You know, you could see a
psychologist using this to loosen somebody up, and you know,
it's great to be able to say, well, what about
your mother? You know there's something coming up here, and
just be able to guide people, and it would be
(48:52):
great in kinesiology as well.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
Yeah, what's beautiful about this approach is that it links
with all different kinds of therapies. Really well, we have
doctor holistic nurses, chiropractors, osteopaths, psychotherapists, counselors, coaches, massage therapists.
Really many people can figure out a way to take
(49:15):
this approach and and blend it into what they're already doing.
It's very versatile, very versatile.
Speaker 2 (49:23):
What's I noticed on your website that you've got a
lot of free audio downloads for different ailments. You know,
how how are you creating those? Is it from the
body map that you've worked out these particular tones that
the thyroid or the hip or the spine resonates with.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
It's not so much about the tones. I know people
are often looking for magic frequencies that will fix this.
You know, what's the frequency for depression? In our model,
it doesn't really work that way. We know where the
area in the bile field is that when someone is
depressed that energy piles up. It's off the left shoulder
(50:07):
and so well, and it's like almost like you know,
heavy clouds and we talk about wet blankets or being
under the weather. Uh, it's like a low pressure system
in our atmosphere sitting there and will come in and
bust that area up and get energy moving. So it's
not giving us that feeling. So there may be magical
(50:31):
frequencies that do magical things, but that's not how our
work works. We really do work with the map and
locating tonal patterns in specific areas. I might pull out
the one seventy four first, and then maybe someone forty four,
and then a little five twenty eight, so you know,
I'm mixing it up based on what I'm encountering. So
(50:54):
some of those are a consequence of me field combing
through a hologram and doing an adjustment that way. Some
are just me tuning in and listening. Like there's a
couple sessions on the mitochondria, and in those, all I'm
doing is tuning into the mitochondria in my mind's eye
and just activating the fork over and over again in
(51:16):
relationship to what is going on there. So they're all
a little bit different. We have a very big library
of all different kinds of things that are interesting, Like
we have a so as release series, and the so
as muscle goes from the low back through the hips
to the top of the thigh. Very often is a
muscle that's short and tight and difficult to stretch. And
(51:38):
you listen to these three one hour recordings and your
whole so as muscles just kind of melt and elongate
and soften. Kind of odd, but very helpful. Another series
we have is in a dreamal reset series, because a
lot of people have a dreanal exhaustion, and that's one
of me combing through the field of the hologram finding
(52:00):
the adrenal rhythm that's too high and too fast and
inviting it to become self aware and reset itself. So
it's a very different approach than like going to a
holistic doctor and getting a whole bunch of supplements pushed
at you. Because ultimately, everything in your body is rhythmic,
and if everything is at its right rhythm and working
(52:21):
well together, then you're going to experience regulation and health.
But many of us have things are too fast, too high,
too low, too slow. But we're all designed to be
in harmony. That's our factory setting, and humans ultimately are
self tuning instruments and all we have to do is
have a reflection of where we're out of tune and
(52:44):
something to support us getting back in, and the body
goes there, which is really kind of amazing.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Do you ever use other instruments or is it only
tune in folks?
Speaker 3 (52:54):
I use voice as well. I use voice, and I
encourage people to use their voice. Like if I'm working
with someone who has heavy energy in their heart, I
might take a weighted tuning fork like this. I know
your listeners can't see it, but it's a tuning fork
that has barrels on the end. And what those do
is they drive the sound into the body. So I
(53:16):
might put a weighted fork on somebody's sternum and invite
them to make the sound yah and up and through
the tuning fork for the purpose of opening and relaxing
and releasing the heart and lifting that heavy energy off.
So the combination of the voice from within and the
tuning forks from without really helps to open and release
(53:37):
and relax in a beautiful way.
Speaker 2 (53:41):
You know, I've noticed that people don't whistle anymore. You know,
people used to whistle in the street when they were happy,
or they'd be singing to themselves. We don't tend to.
It's funny because we make a lot of noise in public,
talking on our phone when we think nobody around us
is and everybody can hear, But we don't allow ourselves
(54:04):
to make noises that actually benefit us. It's around us.
Speaker 3 (54:09):
Yeah, I agree. I think that's for a number of reasons.
I think a lot of people have very overactive minds,
and I think a lot of people don't have the
free and easy spirit that gives rise to whistling, that
gives rise to humming. We're fairly embattled, embittered and stressed
in our culture, and something as simple as humming can
(54:32):
be very helpful in the model that I work with
called the sonic anatomy. Humming is resonates the bones, and
so you can take a hum then move it all
around in your body and resonate your bones and that
will increase your energy level. And it's so simple and
so easy.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
Yeah. Well, we're almost out of time now. Have you
got any courses coming up?
Speaker 3 (54:57):
Have I got courses coming up? Well, it's sort of
ongoing course with biofield Tuning certification. We have a two
part certification program. People are interested in learning more about that.
I teach a course called Seeing the Body Electric where
we explore the forty two different tones of the sonic anatomy.
That's it's Seeingthebodyelectric dot com. You can learn about that
(55:20):
and I do. I go to a lot of different
events during the year. So can check out my events
page at Biofieldteening dot com and see what else is
coming up.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Thank you so much for being with us today, Eileen,
it's been a really instructive.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
Nice Thank you so much. Sandy, it's been a pleasure
to speak with you.
Speaker 2 (55:43):
So Electric Body Electric Health by Eileen Macusick is published
by Saint Martin's Essentials and for more information about her books, events,
sound therapy sessions both three and those that are available
for purchase, you can visit her website at Biofieldtunin dot com.
(56:04):
And what was the other one, Sing your Body Electric,
Sing No Body Electric, Bodyelectric dot com. I'll check that
one out. That's it for this week. I'm Sandy said Beer.
I'll be back at the same time next week with
another edition of What Is going On? Till then, It's
goodbye for me and thank you. Eileen mcusick
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