February 13, 2025 • 53 mins
Air Date - 13 February 2025
What if education wasn’t just about knowledge but about expanding consciousness? What if communication wasn’t limited to Earth but extended across the cosmos? And what if plants, animals, and crystals were key to our evolution? Joining Sandie this week is educator, futurist, world peace ambassador, visionary dreamer, and co-founder of the Interstellar Community Foundation (ICS), Jeanne White Eagle, whose book Eyes Open: Looking For the Twelve – a Blueprint for a New Future which chronicles a series of dreams that reveal insights into building a university that integrates sound, color, and crystals to create multi-dimensional learning environments, and portals for interstellar communication and connection.
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What if education wasn’t just about knowledge but about expanding consciousness? What if communication wasn’t limited to Earth but extended across the cosmos? And what if plants, animals, and crystals were key to our evolution? Joining Sandie this week is educator, futurist, world peace ambassador, visionary dreamer, and co-founder of the Interstellar Community Foundation (ICS), Jeanne White Eagle, whose book Eyes Open: Looking For the Twelve – a Blueprint for a New Future which chronicles a series of dreams that reveal insights into building a university that integrates sound, color, and crystals to create multi-dimensional learning environments, and portals for interstellar communication and connection.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to what is going on for New Thought from
the Edge of Arm. Each week on home Time's flagship
radio show, veteran broadcaster, author, and media consultant Sandy Sedgeber
conducts thought provoking interviews with inspirational authors, artists, musicians, scientists, speakers,
and filmmakers who are working at the point where spirituality
(00:32):
and science meet consciousness, at the very edge of Arm.
Here is your host, Sandy Sedgeber.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello. What if education wasn't just about knowledge but about
expanding consciousness? What if communication wasn't limited to Earth but
extended across the cosmos? And what if plants, animals, and
crystals were key to our evolution? Joining me today is educator, futurist,
world peace ambassador, visionary dreamer, and co founder of the
(01:04):
Interstellar Community Foundation, gen White Eagle, whose book Eyes Open,
Looking for the Twelve offers a blueprint for a future
where humanity evolves in harmony with the Earth, the cosmos,
and the forces that guide us. Geene White Eagle, Welcome.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Pleasure to be here, Sandy, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So Eyes Open, Looking for the Twelve. There's an intriguing
title that I'm sure has elicited many many cries have
pick me, You pick me says that the kind of
response you get to this book.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yes it is, Yes it is.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So you've now got more than twelve Yes we do.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
So this all started with a recurring dream that you had,
which is pivotal to this conversation, to the book, to
everything that you're doing. But I just want to hold
that bit about the dream for the moment and tell
us what you were doing before you put your full
attention on this.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Before I put my full attention on this, I was
still involved with efforts that had to do with creating
a better world in my piece. For instance, I had
the privilege of becoming part of the Up with People organization,
and we traveled the world. I was with one of
the original casts, and the whole idea with it was
(02:31):
that people can live together, they can honor each other's differences,
and that makes us stronger rather than weaker, and so
I was involved with him for quite a number of years.
I married one of the extraordinary musical geniuses from the
group and with him had two amazing children and spent
(02:53):
the i say the middle part of my life raising
a family. But I also was in the corporate world
for quite some time and always always focused on what
can I do to help make things better? And it
was when I was in the corporate world that I
became part of the World Business Academy, whose focus was
(03:14):
on this as well, just in a different way. But
this is where I met my present husband and partner,
and without whom many of what I have dreamed would
be able to come about. Let's just say that it's
been an adventure. I remember as a child. As a child,
people would say what do you want to be when
(03:34):
you grow up? And I said, an adventurer, an explore
and it was yeah right, and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Okay, So tell us about this recurring dream. What was
it about and when did it start?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
It started when I was in my teen years, and
I don't remember the exact year. I'm going to stay
around the age of sixteen. And it was a dream
because I've always dreamed a lot, and this one just
kept coming back. It would go away for a few weeks,
then it would come back and go away for a
few weeks, then it would come back. And that went
(04:12):
on into my visa. So for more than two decades,
I'm getting a recurring dream, and I didn't know what
it was I'm standing. There were two scenes that were
in it, always the same scene. I was standing at
the foot of what looked like a low mountain or
a very high hill, and on on the hill were
these very futuristic buildings, and I could see the buildings clearly,
(04:36):
and then suddenly I would be inside one of the
buildings and I would be in what we might describe
as a hallway in a university or a school, because
we were all we were passing each other as though
we're going to class or going somewhere where we're going
to learn. But what was different is I noticed that
(05:00):
the people that I'm passing are not all human. They
are different species. And it was like a scene out
of Star Trek or perhaps Star Wars, and that those
were the two scenes, at the foot of the hill
seeing the buildings, and then the next being in the
hallway and seeing all these other species. And it was
a very natural interaction that was taking place in that
(05:23):
second scene. And this went on for as I say,
around two decades or a little more. Then it went away,
and I actually I began to forget about it because
I was raising a family and getting involved with doing
what was necessary to raise the family to make a living.
(05:45):
I had divorced at that time, and so it was
not until two thousand and nine. In two thousand and nine,
what I'm in my sixties at the time, is it right? Yeah?
I just for the record, just turned to eighty one
this pass December, so not getting older older and becoming newer.
(06:09):
But when the dream reappeared, suddenly I'm given information, and
I remember waking up one morning and I'm hearing you're
to build a university. But I got it very clearly
that this was not university as most of us would
(06:30):
think of university. In my lexicon, it was the only
thing that meant there was some kind of sophisticated education
that was going on here. Then I began to see
more and more pieces of it and what I was
receiving as I was being told that education systems as
we know them will begin to fall away, and that
(06:53):
this particular what I was being shown would be a
way to take a human being from the time of
birth right on through that human's life into moving out
of the physical body. So it was from birth to birth,
It's the way we like to describe it. And in
(07:14):
that process, everything that this human comes in with all
of the gifts, all of the talents, all that are
perhaps dormant at the time. That is what I was
told that this particular facility was to do, was to
help a human become everything he or she is meant
(07:35):
to be, raising the consciousness as as high as it
could go, and that in the process, what would occur
is that all of the dramas that humans have so
wonderfully created over all the many eons would begin to
fall aways. Then the consciousness would be raised to such
(07:56):
a high frequency that humans would move on and continue
to evolve into the beings that they were meant to
be from the beginning. Now that's only one piece of it,
because the other piece of it is, as this happens,
then interaction with the cosmic community becomes a very natural thing,
and interaction with species coming in from other systems or
(08:19):
the dimensional systems, it becomes a very natural thing. And yeah,
so this is where we're headed.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
So we'll get to all of that a little bit later.
When did this stop being a dream I start to
become something far more solid?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Right? It was when I saw it was when I
saw what I was to do. I was to bring
the people together to share with them what it was
that I had seen, was to find the others on
this planet that may have had a dream or something,
(09:01):
which is why when I said looking for the twelve
is the byline to the title on my book. There
was a reading that was done on the dream some
time ago by an extraordinary seer and she said, there
are at least twelve others that have seen close to
what you've seen. Well, I found more than twelve, and
we're beginning to beginning to see that perhaps that was
(09:24):
a metaphor, and there are all kinds of metaphoric meanings
that could go to twelve.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I mean, well, actually they go to thirteen. And the
number thirty is very significant this concept, isn't it. There
was a thirteenth person if you're going to count it
literally like that. Yeah, yeah, So tell us about I mean,
you know, there were so many themes in this story,
(09:54):
in this creation. Tell us about the numerology and the symbolism.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, that's the way. That's That's a good question because
it allows me to say that as the pieces were
coming to me and I was being given clarity, and
I write about this in the book. My husband and
I have for quite a number of years worked very
closely with an extraordinary Native American mentor mystic who beautiful
(10:22):
painted arrow, Joseph Ryle, And in working with him, what
we began to learn is the uh the symbolism, the
power of the symbolism, and the talking about the four directions,
talking about the five directions, the east, the south, the west,
(10:44):
the north, the up above and down below, which is
the center. And if you look at that as a mandala,
then you have got the four primary circles with the
fifth one in the center. And so I really it's
it's an interesting way that the universe found to help
(11:05):
me see the clarity of what I was being shown.
Because I'm walking down a little country road in Germany
one morning and I screamed out, I mean in the country,
and all that was around were the sheep and the cowls,
and I thought they're not going to mind. So I
just screamed it out. I said, show me more, give
me clarity, show me more. And suddenly what appeared in
(11:27):
front of me were these five gigantic circles, all in
the east, the south, the west, the north, with the center,
and there were the five circles, and I thought, oh,
my goodness, I have been working with this for many years.
Now I see what they're showing me. And that's when
(11:47):
I began to see that in the dream, the recurring dream,
I had been seeing circular buildings in the recurring dream.
But remember when this started, it was back in my
teeth years, and we didn't meet Joseph until I was
in my fifties. So this had been gest stating all
(12:07):
This had been just stating inside me for all these decades.
And when I saw these circles, I immediately went back
to where I was staying and drew them out, and
I began to see what they had been showing me
and with each for anyone that works with the directions,
(12:27):
there is a very specific energy that is involved with
each of the directions. And what I was being shown
was in this facility that would be built. Whatever goes
on in the East would be focused towards or mental
anything that would have to do with mental capacities. Anything
(12:48):
focused in the South would be focused on emotional growth
and maturity. Anything focused in the West would be focused
on physical and that could include yoga as a matter
of fact. Anything focused in the North would include the spiritual,
and that the center would be where there would be
(13:11):
a lot of interaction that would go on between the
children and the elders because they complete the circle. And
this is about the up above and down below. Also
now keep in mind that, and there's a lot that
goes on in each one of these buildings, a lot.
(13:33):
There's a certain frequency that is set up inside all
of these buildings. But what I was shown is that
if it is done like I was shown, it will
create a specific frequency that forms a signal, a beacon.
(13:53):
They come together in pyramids on the top of the
top of the facility. We're calling it a university. I
don't know that that's what it will continue to be called.
We've had somebody said, what you're building is Starfleet Academy.
If anybody knows anythmeorous starter. But what what we discovered
(14:15):
and what I was shown, is that the center of
each of the buildings comes together in the center and
forms of pyramid. And there's actually more than one pyramid,
but they all come together in the center and they
send a beacon into deep space. And that's one of
those It's a little bit like I guess at an
(14:36):
airport when you've got when a plane's trying to find
where to go and where to.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Come in to the signal, to.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
The signal to bring in and let those know where
we are, and these particular facilities. I was shown we're
going to go up all over the world and these
species from other systems we'd come in and inside the facility,
or was actually shown how certain species would be welcomed.
(15:05):
There would be those that would have to adapt to
our gravity, those that would have to adapt to our climate.
And I was given detail on all of this and
to put it in the book, and it's and forgive me,
it must be like drinking from a fire hose to
hear even this bit that I'm giving to you, because
(15:26):
there is an enormous amount of detail that is with it.
But it did come. But here's the wonderful thing is
there are these extraordinary souls on the planet now that
know that somehow they are part of manifesting this because
it has to do with helping humanity evolve to its
(15:48):
next natural stage.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And there's one wonderful soul who's no longer with this,
who was part of this, and that's edgar Mitchell.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yes, yes, edgar Mitchell was very dear before we knew Edgar,
we knew Willis Harmon. I had met Willis Harmon, who,
for those who don't know, was the president of the
Institute of Noetic Sciences, and Willis had been part of
the World Business Academy. And that's how Willison I met,
and he became one of my dearest friends and later
(16:19):
one of my husband's dearest friends. And Willis passed and
when he did, it was and the dream came back.
I thought. I kept saying, Willis, I really wish I
had you to talk with and just just you know,
hash out some of what's coming in. And I remember
sitting and I write about this in the book By
(16:41):
the Way, I remember sitting in a swing, a double swing,
out in the yard one day and I said, Willis,
I missed that, I miss you, and I heard I'm
right here. And suddenly I thought I had chills just
go over me. I felt this presence and I started
(17:05):
talking with Willis the way we used to have these
wonderful conversations. And what happened over a period of days
is it wasn't my asking Willis anything. It was Willis
asking me. He was getting me to he was teaching
me how to articulate what it was that I had seen.
(17:27):
And on one of these mornings, I heard then that
now it's time for you to get in touch with
it Mitchell, and I didn't know it. And I had
a friend locate an email address that I was able
to send a message to and I sent him, actually
I think it was a letter, and I sent him
(17:49):
a letter, and I told him that I was good
friends of one of his best friends, because he's the
one that founded the Institute of No Medics Science piece
who brought Edgar in. And Edgar's immediate response to me was,
let's give this a go. And so we began speaking
(18:12):
and I shared with him and kind of fumbled through,
still learning how to articulate about the vision. And I
it was during one of those conversations I said, Edgar,
I'm going to write a book, and in the book,
I'm going to put as much detail as I have
at the moment, and let's not have another conversation until
(18:34):
I've got this book written so and then we can
use it as a launching pad. And that's how it happened.
And Edgar, the more he learned about the vision, the
more he knew he's the one that actually said this
sounds like a blueprint for humanity, and so the rest
of it is history.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
So tell us a little bit more about what we
will find in these universities. I love the word, you know, universe, Yes,
exactly in the city. Yes, it's for everybody. But you
also you're using things like a sound and vibration and
crystals to create a multi dimensional facility, aren't.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yes, yeah, the humans are learning this. And forgive me
everybody for speaking of humans and third person, but quite
often that's how I feel, because I'm not really sure
how much human DNA is in me. The more I
learned about what I was shown. But the use of
(19:36):
sound is fundamental to all of the sections of the university.
Everything is vibration. Vibration is sound, and I actually teach
workshops on this. So when, for instance, you would enter
into let's say, into the South, which is about the emotion,
(19:57):
that's where humans will be helped to deal with their emotions.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
How to deal with how you relate with it, not
just with other people and other circumstances, but with yourself,
and with that is sound.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Sound can help to balance, it can help to imbalance,
It helps to create, it helps to discreate, but walking
into that particular section, for instance, of the university, there
would be a frequency that would help to balance all
(20:34):
that is going on there, so that as a person
is it's for instance, Sandi, it's where those who have
had a lot of trauma, that's where the trauma would
be dealt with. And the sound that Actually one of
the things I wrote in the book is that throughout
the entire university there is going to be sound that
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you may it may be subtle, but it will be there.
It's the frequency that is being set to help raise
the frequency of every human.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
That you're using color as well.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yes, because well color is sound. It is sound, and
the colors are going to be extraordinarily important. And with that,
and let me just say something about the crystals. I
was shown that. I mean, you know, crystals are another
life form, and the more humans learn about crystals, the
more we will realize that we've got some extraordinary allies
(21:36):
on this planet. But crystals. There will be crystals in
the walls. There will be crystals that have very specific focus,
very specific responsibilities. I guess that's one way to say it,
because let me share it without confusing people. I hope
but if you've got let's say you've got the four
primary buildings and the center building. Connecting one of the
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imory buildings to the center is what's called a bridge building,
and that's just what connects them so that you can
walk from one into the other. In the bridge buildings
are going to be very specific crystals, so that let's
say you have been in the South where you've been
working with trauma, right, and now you want to go
(22:25):
into and do something physical. Let's say you want to
go into the west where perhaps yoga is that it
might be taught. So you're moving. You don't go straight
from the south over to the West without going through
something that will help you to digest all of the
(22:46):
frequency and all that has just happened in the South building,
in the emotion building. So you're moving to the west,
and in that you're also moving through a frequency field,
a vibrational feel that helps you to adjust all different
frequencies that you are encountering. And forgive me, I I
(23:10):
just encourage people read the book. It's spelled out a
little bit more clearly in this Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
It is, yes it is, but it's extraordinary, extraordinary. I mean,
when we think back to the I'll call them mythologies
because nobody knows for certain, but about Atlantis and m
Le Murvia, they had, you know, chambers that they used,
the sound, they used the color, they used the crystals,
(23:35):
healing chambers. So it's almost like you're rebuilding.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah, well, it's one of the reasons that didn't work.
And Plato. I mentioned Plato, and he I think he
was on target with some of what he surmised when
he wrote about this, and.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
We just we just lost a little bit there Plato.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yeah, right, he just described it fairly well too. That
what happened in Atlantis is they got so involved in
the technology and the sophistication of the technology that they
forgot that they forgot to garden the heart. And that's
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how I say it in the book. They forgot to
garden the heart. So the ego began to take over
and in Atlantis and it became a superficial interaction that
occurred with people, and they forgot and I see how
it happens. They forgot who they were, and it for
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whatever however it occurred, whether it was natural disaster, whether
it was it doesn't matter. The point is is that
they almost got there. But they didn't. And what one
of the things that I'm very and my husband is
and now the whole community is very clear on in
(25:09):
building what we are now, it's going to be imperative
the humans clear themselves of angers, rages, prejudices in that
and so how do you do that? You do it daily?
And in Native American terms we say clear the hollow bone.
So what is you know? It may mean writing a
(25:30):
letter of apology to someone. It may mean, you know,
just simply saying I'm sorry. But the idea is is
to clear the self of anything that may be keeping
you from hearing what the higher self is saying and doing.
The Norwegians, because we've done a lot of workshops in
(25:51):
this too, and Norwegians are so cute, they say, it's
like having a banana in the did you do? The
DigitaliD will not play? So it's like for humans to
be falling who they are and who they can be.
Got to keep this clear and if and this is
(26:13):
it's not about the country needs to do it, the
government needs to It's about the individual as the individual,
because we are the ones that make up the countries
and the government itself. So but that is that is
going to be one of the most crucial pieces inside
of what is given.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
I'm going to hold you there because we're going to
take a short break. You're listening to What is going On.
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world peace ambassador, visionary dreamer and co founder of the
Interest at Our Community Foundation, Gene White Eagle. We're discussing
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(26:55):
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Speaker 3 (31:04):
You'll have to ask them. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
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Speaker 3 (31:11):
What I knew now is and I want to get
to know her better. But Thehani Wahoo of the Wahoo
clan of the Cherokee, she I had the privilege of
meeting her many years ago, and I need to get
back in touch with her because I believe she has
and her people have some of the wisdom that can
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help us as we move forward on this. But one
of the things that I learned from Dehani is and
she let me just say that. She shared that the
Wahoo clan were here to watch over protect the crystals
on this planet. She said, you can be holding the
smallest crystal like this and it will have the energy
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the power of an atom bomb. And most people don't
know what they're doing when they are working with crystals
in this way. So I myself, I go, I work
with them intuitively, but I am certainly not a master
and working with these dear life forms. And I call
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them life forms because they're there. They have a different base,
but they are alive. And for anybody that is around crystals,
you know that there is a certain frequency that they
will emit they're communicating when this occurs. And so yeah,
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so I can't again, I can't speaks as an expert
on this, but we will bring those in who do know,
andt Honey is one of these that I hope we
can bring in.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
So you also talk about universe cities surrounding surrounding, there's
going to be these small communities. What are they designed to?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I'm laughing because I remember how that name even came up.
We were doing a gathering in Germany one year and
it was during one of the meal times, and there
was a group of women of maybe about five or
six women that were sitting together way down at the
end of the long table that we were eating in,
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and they all just started laughing, and so I asked them,
I said, what are you guys laughing about? And they said,
we know the name, the name that you're to call
this universe Cities. And the name stuck because I thought,
of course, And what has happened over time is I realized, Yeah,
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with the university again, whatever we end up calling it around,
it is going to be the supporting community. Supporting communities
will happen around the world. So I began to see
university okay, and that began to So that's how that
came into play.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
So you talk about these sustainable communities, I mean you
see these around Finnhorn. You know, there's Findhorn, which is
the center where everybody lives, and then you've got Finhorn,
you know, the larger, greater Findhorn. If you like, the
kind of the community that's been built up around it
isn't you know, on the same premises. So is that
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exactly what you see happening.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Well, it'll probably be something similar to that, because what
I was given was the actual facility of the Interstellar
University in the book. By the way it's called for
those who don't know, I call it University and Interstellar
Communications Center Centers and uiic ces. We changed the name
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of it because one of our very dear, dear friends,
I kept spitting every time she said, you know, University
and Interstellar Communications, so we changed it. Made it simple.
But yeah, the what we're saying, you lost your threat. Yeah,
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I do it all the time. OK, let me ask
you another question.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Only say that they exist on multiple planes, requiring a
holographic mindset to fully grasp its. YopE, Yes, that sounds
tough to me. What is a holographic mindset? And you know,
I thought I grasped it, but maybe I haven't because
I'm not sure I've got one of them.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Well, another way to say it, it's actually how I
perceive reality most of the time, which can post questions
at times. But we ask people just be willing to
expand a little bit and see spherically spherically that it's
like all time, future, present and past. It's all here.
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It's all right here now. But it's hard to for
our minds to wrap around what that can actually mean
when we're living in a space where we work in
linear space, linear time, and so when I go into
speaking about spherical I am just suggesting that use your
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imagination and begin to see that it's all right here
and when it's holographic, what we're seeing is in the
case of the university, yeah, it already exists. It already exists,
and it exists on the different planes. The idea, it's
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the idea. What we are doing is creating the environment
where we can bring it into physical reality. But I
you know, Sandy, the best thing I can share with
anybody is use your imagination. If you're not quite sure
where is this going? You know what does this mean?
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And I suggest, you know, take a deep breath and
allow yourself to expand out and see, move beyond the boundaries,
move beyond the boundaries, and see what is on the
other side. And then you begin to discover there are
no signs. That's the other thing. But I guess we
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could say that for another conversation.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
So if you're going to be sending out these signals
inviting all of our galactic relatives to come visit, you
know what happens how some of them may not even
have the kind of structure that allows them to thrive
on this planet or communicate with us. How do you
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deal with that?
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Right that I actually write about that as well, just
shown that there were and we're talking sizes, you know, big, little, minuscule,
whatever it's we're talking those that may not necessarily be
in physical form, but may be in uh.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Energetic template.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yeah, that's a very good way to describe it. Yes,
and that's part of what is inside. By the way,
there's a whole area inside the interstell University, and most
of it actually is underneath the it's down in the
lower part, down in the Earth itself, because the Earth
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herself is going to help with whatever transitions need to uh,
you know, need to occur. But there are going to
be and I wrote about this. I was shown, you know,
there were those, There are those that won't necessarily come
in on a ship. They may just show up they
you know, like Scotty beaming down the kind of thing.
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And so, and I was shown that there are This
is against where as you pointed out, the crystals will
help too, creating energetic portals through which those coming in
from other dimensional spaces can enter into our space and this.
You know, one of the things that we talked about
when I was speaking with Edgress is this is going
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to sound like science fiction, you know, to so many people,
But then we have to stop and realize how much
of our science fiction then becomes our science as time progresses,
as it already has, as it already has. That's exactly right,
That's exactly right. So I you know, is this going
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to happen tomorrow? Well, you know, we can talk about
that as well, but there are some things that have
to happen in the collective conscious business before what I've
seen could ever survive. Do you have a location, We
have several that are being considered one improved possibly too.
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And we've looked at an area in western Australia, which
is another one. We just very recently got an invitation
to come and look at somewhere that's in western Canada.
So and these again, these are meant to go up,
you know, around the world, and I was told that
they would start on three to five continents. But there
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is a community in Mexico in the Yucatan area that
is very interested and possibly establishing one of the universities
and get that in place and then build what it
was today.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Do you feel that you're going to need the help
of different governments to get this going? All you rely
in on, you know, all the grass of the.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Twelve grassroots, grassroots is where Yeah, there's going to I'm
sure there's going to be some kind of dance. It's
going to have to occur. However, however, that's for that. Again,
to get caught in political dialogue is something that those
that will carry on after I've moved out of this
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body are going to have to be very aware of
and not get caught in the traps. I mean, God,
there are many, Yeah, and there are many, but it's
to keep pulling up above. I think that there is.
We have a lot of star beings that are helping
us right now from different systems that are part of
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part of manifesting this vision.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Because you think that we are ready to join the
greater life to community. Do you think humanity is ready
for it?
Speaker 3 (42:03):
I think many are, and I think it's already happening,
and it's not something that can be stopped. It's already happening.
And I think what we're seeing is a lot of
the drama that's being played out now a lot of
the drama that's being played out now is a result
of fear that is moving into the consciousness of those
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who are afraid to change. And so you know, there
are all kinds of scenarios that are attempting to play
themselves out. But I think ultimately, Sandy, I mean it's inevitable.
It is moving into a higher frequency, a higher vibration,
and we are getting a lot of help from many
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different beings, from many different systems.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
You say that the children are going to play a
pivotal role and they're going to help guide the adults
towards more connected future.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yeah. Yeah, I think it's important to recognize that the
children coming in, and it's not just this particular generation's
one that came in just before even that of my
own children were coming in already awake and very aware.
And if you watch the children now, I mean, ask
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their help, ask their ideas. I mentioned in one of
the earlier interviews with you around books bring John Hunter's
book on World Peace and other fourth grade achievements, And
what he had done is he pitched out the world
problems to his fourth graders and they created a game
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where they came up with solutions that not even those
in the Pentagon and everywhere else could come up with.
These kids came up with solutions because what they were
doing is they saw everything as a whole. They weren't
just taking poverty or just taking hunger or whatever. They
they took all of it as a whole. And we're
working with that and came up with solutions. But it
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was the children. And that's I every day. My husband
teaches me, but I watch baby clips on YouTube for
a few minutes every day, just so I can see
the new souls that have come in and the innocence
that is there. And if people begin to recognize these
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children do have wisdom, we guide them in certain things.
But our job is also to listen to them and
let them guide us. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yeah, why do we think that? Because they're in small bodies,
you know, if they don't know anything.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Yeah. And the other thing, the other thing, Sandy, are
the elders are because the elders are getting ready to
leave their bodies, and of course the young the young
ones have just come in to their bodies. So one
of the things I was shown was the interaction between
the elders and his children is and that's why I said,
it's a circle. It completes the circle. And if you
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pay attention to the interaction that goes on with them,
between them, the wisdom that's passed back and forth, we
could learn a lot. And yeah, keep ourselves out of
some of the crazy traps we get ourselves into.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
So all these people who have answered the call for
the twelve, who knows how many there are, twelve hundred
and twelve thousand, I don't know what are they actually
doing to support this vision. Do you have people on
the ground that are raising money, others that are spread
in the word, How are they engaging in this?
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Well, the truth is is that we have not really
gone into a lot of interaction with them. More than
I'm aware that they're here, because I myself am getting
ready to transition out of this role and turn it
to the younger ones that are going to carry it.
(46:05):
They're already stepping forward to do this. But to your question,
I'm thinking of a young man who's in Israel whom
I need to get in touch with very soon, who
is an artist. And we were doing a workshop in
Israel on one of our visits there, and he came
up to me afterwards. He said, let me show you something.
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And he had paintings that he had done and they
were up the buildings that I had seen, but this
is what he had received and they were quite beautiful.
It's and we have interacted and shared information, so we're
just kind of pulling. There's a pulling information as it's
come in. But there's an older an older person here
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in the United States who what she was seeing, and
she didn't know what she was seeing, and she grew
drew them out where all of these ships that were
in the upper atmosphere, and what she was seeing was
like an energy elevator coming down. But she couldn't see
where the energy elevator was going. She just saw she
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saw the detail of the ships and drew them out
and they're quite detailed. And then so when she heard
me speak on the vision, she said, that's where that's
where the elevators are going. Because many of those, particularly
the hybrid children, are not able to perhaps stay on
our planet for very long, so they can move back up,
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you know, to a more safer environment for them in
one of the ships. But she was seeing energy elevators
come down. That's another discussion that we could have at
some point yeah, And we've got another extraordinary, brilliant woman
who said I have seen that what I had seen.
She she does a lot of work with goodwill. I
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guess there's a way to say that goodwill efforts in
bringing peoples together, and she had seen something very similar.
So I think the twelve is metaphor. We could be
looking at twelve million. Who knows?
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Do you do? You hold group meditation sessions where you
are visualizing this.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
And bring into form?
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, can anyone join those?
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yeah, we're getting we're going when I said just a
few minutes ago that we're going through a transition right now,
John and I are going to be turning over the
actual operation and bringing into the physical realm this vision
because we're it's not going to be long before we're
going to get on the ship ourselves, and I want
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to know that we will have put into place all
that we can to make sure it moves on in
a really good way. So that's where that is at
the moment. So I guess the best thing I can
say is stay tuned. Anybody that would like to be
on our mailing list, we are happy to have you
on our mailing list, and we do a newsletter and
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we can keep you up to date that way, and
you may see how you can play what parts you
might want to play. Soon, we're going to be looking
for those that want to move into physically move into
the community environment that we will be building, which I
probably think is going to be in Mexico first.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
So you you just said that, you know you think
you and John are getting ready to beam up at
some point in the future. Does it bother you that
you won't be around to see it.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (49:55):
No, No, I'll be around. I'll just be on the
other side, that's all. Yeah, I've got I have to
tell you. I have I may have shared this with
you before. For any of you that may be listening
or watching this, I suggest that you form a council,
and the council be made up of those that you
have deep respect for in their knowledge, in their wisdom,
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in their character, and create a counsel. None of those
on my council are walking around in the physical body.
And Edgar is on my counsel, and it's and I
and Lawrence Bloom I've brought him up before, is on
my counsel. Willis Harmon is on my counsel. Gandhi is on.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
My counsel, so people can say, I want Gene on
my counsel.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Yeah, wait till I'm out of the body. And I
would be happy to happy to because because everything is
here now ye. And and those those that have moved
moved into a different energetic space are they're still here.
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They're still here, but they're everywhere. So that's another conversation
we can have.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
So unfortunately we're almost out of time now. Is there
one thing that you would like to share with our
viewers and listeners before you go? One important thing.
Speaker 3 (51:25):
Keep seeing through the eyes of love, no matter the circumstances,
keep seeing through the eyes of love, and love will
guide you. That's what the Atlanteans forgot.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yes, Gene White Eagle, thank you so much for joining
us today.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
It's been a pleasure. Thank you saying.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
You can find more information about Eyes Open, looking for
the twelve and about Gene White Eagle's other books at
Genewhiteeagle dot com. And that's j E. A. N. N. E.
And you can learn more about the ICF that to
Stella Community Foundation dot org. I'm Sandy, said Beer. I'll
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be back at the same time next week with another
edition of What Is going On Till Then It's goodbye
for me.
Welcome to what is going on for New Thought from
the Edge of Arm. Each week on home Time's flagship
radio show, veteran broadcaster, author, and media consultant Sandy Sedgeber
conducts thought provoking interviews with inspirational authors, artists, musicians, scientists, speakers,
and filmmakers who are working at the point where spirituality
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and science meet consciousness, at the very edge of Arm.
Here is your host, Sandy Sedgeber.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello. What if education wasn't just about knowledge but about
expanding consciousness? What if communication wasn't limited to Earth but
extended across the cosmos? And what if plants, animals, and
crystals were key to our evolution? Joining me today is educator, futurist,
world peace ambassador, visionary dreamer, and co founder of the
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Interstellar Community Foundation, gen White Eagle, whose book Eyes Open,
Looking for the Twelve offers a blueprint for a future
where humanity evolves in harmony with the Earth, the cosmos,
and the forces that guide us. Geene White Eagle, Welcome.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Pleasure to be here, Sandy, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So Eyes Open, Looking for the Twelve. There's an intriguing
title that I'm sure has elicited many many cries have
pick me, You pick me says that the kind of
response you get to this book.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yes it is, Yes it is.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So you've now got more than twelve Yes we do.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
So this all started with a recurring dream that you had,
which is pivotal to this conversation, to the book, to
everything that you're doing. But I just want to hold
that bit about the dream for the moment and tell
us what you were doing before you put your full
attention on this.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Before I put my full attention on this, I was
still involved with efforts that had to do with creating
a better world in my piece. For instance, I had
the privilege of becoming part of the Up with People organization,
and we traveled the world. I was with one of
the original casts, and the whole idea with it was
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that people can live together, they can honor each other's differences,
and that makes us stronger rather than weaker, and so
I was involved with him for quite a number of years.
I married one of the extraordinary musical geniuses from the
group and with him had two amazing children and spent
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the i say the middle part of my life raising
a family. But I also was in the corporate world
for quite some time and always always focused on what
can I do to help make things better? And it
was when I was in the corporate world that I
became part of the World Business Academy, whose focus was
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on this as well, just in a different way. But
this is where I met my present husband and partner,
and without whom many of what I have dreamed would
be able to come about. Let's just say that it's
been an adventure. I remember as a child. As a child,
people would say what do you want to be when
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you grow up? And I said, an adventurer, an explore
and it was yeah right, and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Okay, So tell us about this recurring dream. What was
it about and when did it start?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
It started when I was in my teen years, and
I don't remember the exact year. I'm going to stay
around the age of sixteen. And it was a dream
because I've always dreamed a lot, and this one just
kept coming back. It would go away for a few weeks,
then it would come back and go away for a
few weeks, then it would come back. And that went
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on into my visa. So for more than two decades,
I'm getting a recurring dream, and I didn't know what
it was I'm standing. There were two scenes that were
in it, always the same scene. I was standing at
the foot of what looked like a low mountain or
a very high hill, and on on the hill were
these very futuristic buildings, and I could see the buildings clearly,
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and then suddenly I would be inside one of the
buildings and I would be in what we might describe
as a hallway in a university or a school, because
we were all we were passing each other as though
we're going to class or going somewhere where we're going
to learn. But what was different is I noticed that
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the people that I'm passing are not all human. They
are different species. And it was like a scene out
of Star Trek or perhaps Star Wars, and that those
were the two scenes, at the foot of the hill
seeing the buildings, and then the next being in the
hallway and seeing all these other species. And it was
a very natural interaction that was taking place in that
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second scene. And this went on for as I say,
around two decades or a little more. Then it went away,
and I actually I began to forget about it because
I was raising a family and getting involved with doing
what was necessary to raise the family to make a living.
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I had divorced at that time, and so it was
not until two thousand and nine. In two thousand and nine,
what I'm in my sixties at the time, is it right? Yeah?
I just for the record, just turned to eighty one
this pass December, so not getting older older and becoming newer.
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But when the dream reappeared, suddenly I'm given information, and
I remember waking up one morning and I'm hearing you're
to build a university. But I got it very clearly
that this was not university as most of us would
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think of university. In my lexicon, it was the only
thing that meant there was some kind of sophisticated education
that was going on here. Then I began to see
more and more pieces of it and what I was
receiving as I was being told that education systems as
we know them will begin to fall away, and that
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this particular what I was being shown would be a
way to take a human being from the time of
birth right on through that human's life into moving out
of the physical body. So it was from birth to birth,
It's the way we like to describe it. And in
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that process, everything that this human comes in with all
of the gifts, all of the talents, all that are
perhaps dormant at the time. That is what I was
told that this particular facility was to do, was to
help a human become everything he or she is meant
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to be, raising the consciousness as as high as it
could go, and that in the process, what would occur
is that all of the dramas that humans have so
wonderfully created over all the many eons would begin to
fall aways. Then the consciousness would be raised to such
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a high frequency that humans would move on and continue
to evolve into the beings that they were meant to
be from the beginning. Now that's only one piece of it,
because the other piece of it is, as this happens,
then interaction with the cosmic community becomes a very natural thing,
and interaction with species coming in from other systems or
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the dimensional systems, it becomes a very natural thing. And yeah,
so this is where we're headed.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
So we'll get to all of that a little bit later.
When did this stop being a dream I start to
become something far more solid?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Right? It was when I saw it was when I
saw what I was to do. I was to bring
the people together to share with them what it was
that I had seen, was to find the others on
this planet that may have had a dream or something,
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which is why when I said looking for the twelve
is the byline to the title on my book. There
was a reading that was done on the dream some
time ago by an extraordinary seer and she said, there
are at least twelve others that have seen close to
what you've seen. Well, I found more than twelve, and
we're beginning to beginning to see that perhaps that was
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a metaphor, and there are all kinds of metaphoric meanings
that could go to twelve.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I mean, well, actually they go to thirteen. And the
number thirty is very significant this concept, isn't it. There
was a thirteenth person if you're going to count it
literally like that. Yeah, yeah, So tell us about I mean,
you know, there were so many themes in this story,
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in this creation. Tell us about the numerology and the symbolism.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, that's the way. That's That's a good question because
it allows me to say that as the pieces were
coming to me and I was being given clarity, and
I write about this in the book. My husband and
I have for quite a number of years worked very
closely with an extraordinary Native American mentor mystic who beautiful
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painted arrow, Joseph Ryle, And in working with him, what
we began to learn is the uh the symbolism, the
power of the symbolism, and the talking about the four directions,
talking about the five directions, the east, the south, the west,
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the north, the up above and down below, which is
the center. And if you look at that as a mandala,
then you have got the four primary circles with the
fifth one in the center. And so I really it's
it's an interesting way that the universe found to help
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me see the clarity of what I was being shown.
Because I'm walking down a little country road in Germany
one morning and I screamed out, I mean in the country,
and all that was around were the sheep and the cowls,
and I thought they're not going to mind. So I
just screamed it out. I said, show me more, give
me clarity, show me more. And suddenly what appeared in
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front of me were these five gigantic circles, all in
the east, the south, the west, the north, with the center,
and there were the five circles, and I thought, oh,
my goodness, I have been working with this for many years.
Now I see what they're showing me. And that's when
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I began to see that in the dream, the recurring dream,
I had been seeing circular buildings in the recurring dream.
But remember when this started, it was back in my
teeth years, and we didn't meet Joseph until I was
in my fifties. So this had been gest stating all
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This had been just stating inside me for all these decades.
And when I saw these circles, I immediately went back
to where I was staying and drew them out, and
I began to see what they had been showing me
and with each for anyone that works with the directions,
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there is a very specific energy that is involved with
each of the directions. And what I was being shown
was in this facility that would be built. Whatever goes
on in the East would be focused towards or mental
anything that would have to do with mental capacities. Anything
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focused in the South would be focused on emotional growth
and maturity. Anything focused in the West would be focused
on physical and that could include yoga as a matter
of fact. Anything focused in the North would include the spiritual,
and that the center would be where there would be
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a lot of interaction that would go on between the
children and the elders because they complete the circle. And
this is about the up above and down below. Also
now keep in mind that, and there's a lot that
goes on in each one of these buildings, a lot.
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There's a certain frequency that is set up inside all
of these buildings. But what I was shown is that
if it is done like I was shown, it will
create a specific frequency that forms a signal, a beacon.
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They come together in pyramids on the top of the
top of the facility. We're calling it a university. I
don't know that that's what it will continue to be called.
We've had somebody said, what you're building is Starfleet Academy.
If anybody knows anythmeorous starter. But what what we discovered
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and what I was shown, is that the center of
each of the buildings comes together in the center and
forms of pyramid. And there's actually more than one pyramid,
but they all come together in the center and they
send a beacon into deep space. And that's one of
those It's a little bit like I guess at an
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airport when you've got when a plane's trying to find
where to go and where to.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Come in to the signal, to.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
The signal to bring in and let those know where
we are, and these particular facilities. I was shown we're
going to go up all over the world and these
species from other systems we'd come in and inside the facility,
or was actually shown how certain species would be welcomed.
(15:05):
There would be those that would have to adapt to
our gravity, those that would have to adapt to our climate.
And I was given detail on all of this and
to put it in the book, and it's and forgive me,
it must be like drinking from a fire hose to
hear even this bit that I'm giving to you, because
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there is an enormous amount of detail that is with it.
But it did come. But here's the wonderful thing is
there are these extraordinary souls on the planet now that
know that somehow they are part of manifesting this because
it has to do with helping humanity evolve to its
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next natural stage.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And there's one wonderful soul who's no longer with this,
who was part of this, and that's edgar Mitchell.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yes, yes, edgar Mitchell was very dear before we knew Edgar,
we knew Willis Harmon. I had met Willis Harmon, who,
for those who don't know, was the president of the
Institute of Noetic Sciences, and Willis had been part of
the World Business Academy. And that's how Willison I met,
and he became one of my dearest friends and later
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one of my husband's dearest friends. And Willis passed and
when he did, it was and the dream came back.
I thought. I kept saying, Willis, I really wish I
had you to talk with and just just you know,
hash out some of what's coming in. And I remember
sitting and I write about this in the book By
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the Way, I remember sitting in a swing, a double swing,
out in the yard one day and I said, Willis,
I missed that, I miss you, and I heard I'm
right here. And suddenly I thought I had chills just
go over me. I felt this presence and I started
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talking with Willis the way we used to have these
wonderful conversations. And what happened over a period of days
is it wasn't my asking Willis anything. It was Willis
asking me. He was getting me to he was teaching
me how to articulate what it was that I had seen.
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And on one of these mornings, I heard then that
now it's time for you to get in touch with
it Mitchell, and I didn't know it. And I had
a friend locate an email address that I was able
to send a message to and I sent him, actually
I think it was a letter, and I sent him
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a letter, and I told him that I was good
friends of one of his best friends, because he's the
one that founded the Institute of No Medics Science piece
who brought Edgar in. And Edgar's immediate response to me was,
let's give this a go. And so we began speaking
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and I shared with him and kind of fumbled through,
still learning how to articulate about the vision. And I
it was during one of those conversations I said, Edgar,
I'm going to write a book, and in the book,
I'm going to put as much detail as I have
at the moment, and let's not have another conversation until
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I've got this book written so and then we can
use it as a launching pad. And that's how it happened.
And Edgar, the more he learned about the vision, the
more he knew he's the one that actually said this
sounds like a blueprint for humanity, and so the rest
of it is history.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
So tell us a little bit more about what we
will find in these universities. I love the word, you know, universe, Yes,
exactly in the city. Yes, it's for everybody. But you
also you're using things like a sound and vibration and
crystals to create a multi dimensional facility, aren't.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yes, yeah, the humans are learning this. And forgive me
everybody for speaking of humans and third person, but quite
often that's how I feel, because I'm not really sure
how much human DNA is in me. The more I
learned about what I was shown. But the use of
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sound is fundamental to all of the sections of the university.
Everything is vibration. Vibration is sound, and I actually teach
workshops on this. So when, for instance, you would enter
into let's say, into the South, which is about the emotion,
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that's where humans will be helped to deal with their emotions.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
How to deal with how you relate with it, not
just with other people and other circumstances, but with yourself,
and with that is sound.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Sound can help to balance, it can help to imbalance,
It helps to create, it helps to discreate, but walking
into that particular section, for instance, of the university, there
would be a frequency that would help to balance all
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that is going on there, so that as a person
is it's for instance, Sandi, it's where those who have
had a lot of trauma, that's where the trauma would
be dealt with. And the sound that Actually one of
the things I wrote in the book is that throughout
the entire university there is going to be sound that
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you may it may be subtle, but it will be there.
It's the frequency that is being set to help raise
the frequency of every human.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
That you're using color as well.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Yes, because well color is sound. It is sound, and
the colors are going to be extraordinarily important. And with that,
and let me just say something about the crystals. I
was shown that. I mean, you know, crystals are another
life form, and the more humans learn about crystals, the
more we will realize that we've got some extraordinary allies
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on this planet. But crystals. There will be crystals in
the walls. There will be crystals that have very specific focus,
very specific responsibilities. I guess that's one way to say it,
because let me share it without confusing people. I hope
but if you've got let's say you've got the four
primary buildings and the center building. Connecting one of the
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imory buildings to the center is what's called a bridge building,
and that's just what connects them so that you can
walk from one into the other. In the bridge buildings
are going to be very specific crystals, so that let's
say you have been in the South where you've been
working with trauma, right, and now you want to go
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into and do something physical. Let's say you want to
go into the west where perhaps yoga is that it
might be taught. So you're moving. You don't go straight
from the south over to the West without going through
something that will help you to digest all of the
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frequency and all that has just happened in the South building,
in the emotion building. So you're moving to the west,
and in that you're also moving through a frequency field,
a vibrational feel that helps you to adjust all different
frequencies that you are encountering. And forgive me, I I
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just encourage people read the book. It's spelled out a
little bit more clearly in this Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
It is, yes it is, but it's extraordinary, extraordinary. I mean,
when we think back to the I'll call them mythologies
because nobody knows for certain, but about Atlantis and m
Le Murvia, they had, you know, chambers that they used,
the sound, they used the color, they used the crystals,
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healing chambers. So it's almost like you're rebuilding.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah, well, it's one of the reasons that didn't work.
And Plato. I mentioned Plato, and he I think he
was on target with some of what he surmised when
he wrote about this, and.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
We just we just lost a little bit there Plato.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yeah, right, he just described it fairly well too. That
what happened in Atlantis is they got so involved in
the technology and the sophistication of the technology that they
forgot that they forgot to garden the heart. And that's
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how I say it in the book. They forgot to
garden the heart. So the ego began to take over
and in Atlantis and it became a superficial interaction that
occurred with people, and they forgot and I see how
it happens. They forgot who they were, and it for
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whatever however it occurred, whether it was natural disaster, whether
it was it doesn't matter. The point is is that
they almost got there. But they didn't. And what one
of the things that I'm very and my husband is
and now the whole community is very clear on in
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building what we are now, it's going to be imperative
the humans clear themselves of angers, rages, prejudices in that
and so how do you do that? You do it daily?
And in Native American terms we say clear the hollow bone.
So what is you know? It may mean writing a
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letter of apology to someone. It may mean, you know,
just simply saying I'm sorry. But the idea is is
to clear the self of anything that may be keeping
you from hearing what the higher self is saying and doing.
The Norwegians, because we've done a lot of workshops in
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this too, and Norwegians are so cute, they say, it's
like having a banana in the did you do? The
DigitaliD will not play? So it's like for humans to
be falling who they are and who they can be.
Got to keep this clear and if and this is
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it's not about the country needs to do it, the
government needs to It's about the individual as the individual,
because we are the ones that make up the countries
and the government itself. So but that is that is
going to be one of the most crucial pieces inside
of what is given.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
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Welcome back, Geene Whitehall Eagle Crystals. You talk about the
crystals as creating space time portals. How do crystals do that?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
You'll have to ask them. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
They tell me this, trust them to tell the truth.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
What I knew now is and I want to get
to know her better. But Thehani Wahoo of the Wahoo
clan of the Cherokee, she I had the privilege of
meeting her many years ago, and I need to get
back in touch with her because I believe she has
and her people have some of the wisdom that can
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help us as we move forward on this. But one
of the things that I learned from Dehani is and
she let me just say that. She shared that the
Wahoo clan were here to watch over protect the crystals
on this planet. She said, you can be holding the
smallest crystal like this and it will have the energy
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the power of an atom bomb. And most people don't
know what they're doing when they are working with crystals
in this way. So I myself, I go, I work
with them intuitively, but I am certainly not a master
and working with these dear life forms. And I call
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them life forms because they're there. They have a different base,
but they are alive. And for anybody that is around crystals,
you know that there is a certain frequency that they
will emit they're communicating when this occurs. And so yeah,
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so I can't again, I can't speaks as an expert
on this, but we will bring those in who do know,
andt Honey is one of these that I hope we
can bring in.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
So you also talk about universe cities surrounding surrounding, there's
going to be these small communities. What are they designed to?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I'm laughing because I remember how that name even came up.
We were doing a gathering in Germany one year and
it was during one of the meal times, and there
was a group of women of maybe about five or
six women that were sitting together way down at the
end of the long table that we were eating in,
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and they all just started laughing, and so I asked them,
I said, what are you guys laughing about? And they said,
we know the name, the name that you're to call
this universe Cities. And the name stuck because I thought,
of course, And what has happened over time is I realized, Yeah,
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with the university again, whatever we end up calling it around,
it is going to be the supporting community. Supporting communities
will happen around the world. So I began to see
university okay, and that began to So that's how that
came into play.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
So you talk about these sustainable communities, I mean you
see these around Finnhorn. You know, there's Findhorn, which is
the center where everybody lives, and then you've got Finhorn,
you know, the larger, greater Findhorn. If you like, the
kind of the community that's been built up around it
isn't you know, on the same premises. So is that
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exactly what you see happening.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Well, it'll probably be something similar to that, because what
I was given was the actual facility of the Interstellar
University in the book. By the way it's called for
those who don't know, I call it University and Interstellar
Communications Center Centers and uiic ces. We changed the name
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of it because one of our very dear, dear friends,
I kept spitting every time she said, you know, University
and Interstellar Communications, so we changed it. Made it simple.
But yeah, the what we're saying, you lost your threat. Yeah,
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I do it all the time. OK, let me ask
you another question.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Only say that they exist on multiple planes, requiring a
holographic mindset to fully grasp its. YopE, Yes, that sounds
tough to me. What is a holographic mindset? And you know,
I thought I grasped it, but maybe I haven't because
I'm not sure I've got one of them.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Well, another way to say it, it's actually how I
perceive reality most of the time, which can post questions
at times. But we ask people just be willing to
expand a little bit and see spherically spherically that it's
like all time, future, present and past. It's all here.
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It's all right here now. But it's hard to for
our minds to wrap around what that can actually mean
when we're living in a space where we work in
linear space, linear time, and so when I go into
speaking about spherical I am just suggesting that use your
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imagination and begin to see that it's all right here
and when it's holographic, what we're seeing is in the
case of the university, yeah, it already exists. It already exists,
and it exists on the different planes. The idea, it's
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the idea. What we are doing is creating the environment
where we can bring it into physical reality. But I
you know, Sandy, the best thing I can share with
anybody is use your imagination. If you're not quite sure
where is this going? You know what does this mean?
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And I suggest, you know, take a deep breath and
allow yourself to expand out and see, move beyond the boundaries,
move beyond the boundaries, and see what is on the
other side. And then you begin to discover there are
no signs. That's the other thing. But I guess we
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could say that for another conversation.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
So if you're going to be sending out these signals
inviting all of our galactic relatives to come visit, you
know what happens how some of them may not even
have the kind of structure that allows them to thrive
on this planet or communicate with us. How do you
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deal with that?
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Right that I actually write about that as well, just
shown that there were and we're talking sizes, you know, big, little, minuscule,
whatever it's we're talking those that may not necessarily be
in physical form, but may be in uh.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Energetic template.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yeah, that's a very good way to describe it. Yes,
and that's part of what is inside. By the way,
there's a whole area inside the interstell University, and most
of it actually is underneath the it's down in the
lower part, down in the Earth itself, because the Earth
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herself is going to help with whatever transitions need to uh,
you know, need to occur. But there are going to
be and I wrote about this. I was shown, you know,
there were those, There are those that won't necessarily come
in on a ship. They may just show up they
you know, like Scotty beaming down the kind of thing.
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And so, and I was shown that there are This
is against where as you pointed out, the crystals will
help too, creating energetic portals through which those coming in
from other dimensional spaces can enter into our space and this.
You know, one of the things that we talked about
when I was speaking with Edgress is this is going
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to sound like science fiction, you know, to so many people,
But then we have to stop and realize how much
of our science fiction then becomes our science as time progresses,
as it already has, as it already has. That's exactly right,
That's exactly right. So I you know, is this going
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to happen tomorrow? Well, you know, we can talk about
that as well, but there are some things that have
to happen in the collective conscious business before what I've
seen could ever survive. Do you have a location, We
have several that are being considered one improved possibly too.
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And we've looked at an area in western Australia, which
is another one. We just very recently got an invitation
to come and look at somewhere that's in western Canada.
So and these again, these are meant to go up,
you know, around the world, and I was told that
they would start on three to five continents. But there
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is a community in Mexico in the Yucatan area that
is very interested and possibly establishing one of the universities
and get that in place and then build what it
was today.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Do you feel that you're going to need the help
of different governments to get this going? All you rely
in on, you know, all the grass of the.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Twelve grassroots, grassroots is where Yeah, there's going to I'm
sure there's going to be some kind of dance. It's
going to have to occur. However, however, that's for that. Again,
to get caught in political dialogue is something that those
that will carry on after I've moved out of this
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body are going to have to be very aware of
and not get caught in the traps. I mean, God,
there are many, Yeah, and there are many, but it's
to keep pulling up above. I think that there is.
We have a lot of star beings that are helping
us right now from different systems that are part of
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part of manifesting this vision.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Because you think that we are ready to join the
greater life to community. Do you think humanity is ready
for it?
Speaker 3 (42:03):
I think many are, and I think it's already happening,
and it's not something that can be stopped. It's already happening.
And I think what we're seeing is a lot of
the drama that's being played out now a lot of
the drama that's being played out now is a result
of fear that is moving into the consciousness of those
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who are afraid to change. And so you know, there
are all kinds of scenarios that are attempting to play
themselves out. But I think ultimately, Sandy, I mean it's inevitable.
It is moving into a higher frequency, a higher vibration,
and we are getting a lot of help from many
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different beings, from many different systems.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
You say that the children are going to play a
pivotal role and they're going to help guide the adults
towards more connected future.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
Yeah. Yeah, I think it's important to recognize that the
children coming in, and it's not just this particular generation's
one that came in just before even that of my
own children were coming in already awake and very aware.
And if you watch the children now, I mean, ask
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their help, ask their ideas. I mentioned in one of
the earlier interviews with you around books bring John Hunter's
book on World Peace and other fourth grade achievements, And
what he had done is he pitched out the world
problems to his fourth graders and they created a game
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where they came up with solutions that not even those
in the Pentagon and everywhere else could come up with.
These kids came up with solutions because what they were
doing is they saw everything as a whole. They weren't
just taking poverty or just taking hunger or whatever. They
they took all of it as a whole. And we're
working with that and came up with solutions. But it
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was the children. And that's I every day. My husband
teaches me, but I watch baby clips on YouTube for
a few minutes every day, just so I can see
the new souls that have come in and the innocence
that is there. And if people begin to recognize these
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children do have wisdom, we guide them in certain things.
But our job is also to listen to them and
let them guide us. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yeah, why do we think that? Because they're in small bodies,
you know, if they don't know anything.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
Yeah. And the other thing, the other thing, Sandy, are
the elders are because the elders are getting ready to
leave their bodies, and of course the young the young
ones have just come in to their bodies. So one
of the things I was shown was the interaction between
the elders and his children is and that's why I said,
it's a circle. It completes the circle. And if you
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pay attention to the interaction that goes on with them,
between them, the wisdom that's passed back and forth, we
could learn a lot. And yeah, keep ourselves out of
some of the crazy traps we get ourselves into.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
So all these people who have answered the call for
the twelve, who knows how many there are, twelve hundred
and twelve thousand, I don't know what are they actually
doing to support this vision. Do you have people on
the ground that are raising money, others that are spread
in the word, How are they engaging in this?
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Well, the truth is is that we have not really
gone into a lot of interaction with them. More than
I'm aware that they're here, because I myself am getting
ready to transition out of this role and turn it
to the younger ones that are going to carry it.
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They're already stepping forward to do this. But to your question,
I'm thinking of a young man who's in Israel whom
I need to get in touch with very soon, who
is an artist. And we were doing a workshop in
Israel on one of our visits there, and he came
up to me afterwards. He said, let me show you something.
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And he had paintings that he had done and they
were up the buildings that I had seen, but this
is what he had received and they were quite beautiful.
It's and we have interacted and shared information, so we're
just kind of pulling. There's a pulling information as it's
come in. But there's an older an older person here
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in the United States who what she was seeing, and
she didn't know what she was seeing, and she grew
drew them out where all of these ships that were
in the upper atmosphere, and what she was seeing was
like an energy elevator coming down. But she couldn't see
where the energy elevator was going. She just saw she
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saw the detail of the ships and drew them out
and they're quite detailed. And then so when she heard
me speak on the vision, she said, that's where that's
where the elevators are going. Because many of those, particularly
the hybrid children, are not able to perhaps stay on
our planet for very long, so they can move back up,
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you know, to a more safer environment for them in
one of the ships. But she was seeing energy elevators
come down. That's another discussion that we could have at
some point yeah, And we've got another extraordinary, brilliant woman
who said I have seen that what I had seen.
She she does a lot of work with goodwill. I
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guess there's a way to say that goodwill efforts in
bringing peoples together, and she had seen something very similar.
So I think the twelve is metaphor. We could be
looking at twelve million. Who knows?
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Do you do? You hold group meditation sessions where you
are visualizing this.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
And bring into form?
Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, can anyone join those?
Speaker 3 (48:33):
Yeah, we're getting we're going when I said just a
few minutes ago that we're going through a transition right now,
John and I are going to be turning over the
actual operation and bringing into the physical realm this vision
because we're it's not going to be long before we're
going to get on the ship ourselves, and I want
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to know that we will have put into place all
that we can to make sure it moves on in
a really good way. So that's where that is at
the moment. So I guess the best thing I can
say is stay tuned. Anybody that would like to be
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we can keep you up to date that way, and
you may see how you can play what parts you
might want to play. Soon, we're going to be looking
for those that want to move into physically move into
the community environment that we will be building, which I
probably think is going to be in Mexico first.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
So you you just said that, you know you think
you and John are getting ready to beam up at
some point in the future. Does it bother you that
you won't be around to see it.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (49:55):
No, No, I'll be around. I'll just be on the
other side, that's all. Yeah, I've got I have to
tell you. I have I may have shared this with
you before. For any of you that may be listening
or watching this, I suggest that you form a council,
and the council be made up of those that you
have deep respect for in their knowledge, in their wisdom,
(50:18):
in their character, and create a counsel. None of those
on my council are walking around in the physical body.
And Edgar is on my counsel, and it's and I
and Lawrence Bloom I've brought him up before, is on
my counsel. Willis Harmon is on my counsel. Gandhi is on.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
My counsel, so people can say, I want Gene on
my counsel.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Yeah, wait till I'm out of the body. And I
would be happy to happy to because because everything is
here now ye. And and those those that have moved
moved into a different energetic space are they're still here.
(51:06):
They're still here, but they're everywhere. So that's another conversation
we can have.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
So unfortunately we're almost out of time now. Is there
one thing that you would like to share with our
viewers and listeners before you go? One important thing.
Speaker 3 (51:25):
Keep seeing through the eyes of love, no matter the circumstances,
keep seeing through the eyes of love, and love will
guide you. That's what the Atlanteans forgot.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yes, Gene White Eagle, thank you so much for joining
us today.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
It's been a pleasure. Thank you saying.
Speaker 2 (51:44):
You can find more information about Eyes Open, looking for
the twelve and about Gene White Eagle's other books at
Genewhiteeagle dot com. And that's j E. A. N. N. E.
And you can learn more about the ICF that to
Stella Community Foundation dot org. I'm Sandy, said Beer. I'll
(52:04):
be back at the same time next week with another
edition of What Is going On Till Then It's goodbye
for me.
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