December 28, 2024 • 55 mins
Air Date - 26 December 2024
Magic is not a fantasy. Intelligent beings are evolving in other worlds who want to communicate with us. Tanis Helliwell has devoted the last 25 years to writing about the elementals, dragons, and star people who inhabit these realms. A mystic in the modern world who has brought spiritual consciousness into the mainstream for over 30 years, Tanis Helliwell, has seen and heard elementals, angels, and master teachers in higher dimensions since childhood. Wanting to assist others with their spiritual transformation, she conducted a therapy practice specializing in spiritual transformation for 16 years. She has been leading tours and walking pilgrimages to sacred sites for over 20 decades.
A sought-after keynote speaker who has presented at conferences alongside Rupert Sheldrake, Matthew Fox, Barbara Marx Hubbard, Gregg Braden, Fritjof Capra, and Jean Houston, Tanis Helliwell is the author of several books including The Dragon’s Tale, The Leprechaun’s Story, Decoding Your Destiny: Keys to Humanity’s Spiritual Evolution, and Hybrids: So You Think You Are Human.
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Magic is not a fantasy. Intelligent beings are evolving in other worlds who want to communicate with us. Tanis Helliwell has devoted the last 25 years to writing about the elementals, dragons, and star people who inhabit these realms. A mystic in the modern world who has brought spiritual consciousness into the mainstream for over 30 years, Tanis Helliwell, has seen and heard elementals, angels, and master teachers in higher dimensions since childhood. Wanting to assist others with their spiritual transformation, she conducted a therapy practice specializing in spiritual transformation for 16 years. She has been leading tours and walking pilgrimages to sacred sites for over 20 decades.
A sought-after keynote speaker who has presented at conferences alongside Rupert Sheldrake, Matthew Fox, Barbara Marx Hubbard, Gregg Braden, Fritjof Capra, and Jean Houston, Tanis Helliwell is the author of several books including The Dragon’s Tale, The Leprechaun’s Story, Decoding Your Destiny: Keys to Humanity’s Spiritual Evolution, and Hybrids: So You Think You Are Human.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to what is going on for New Thought from
the Edge of Arm. Each week on home Time's flagship
radio show, veteran broadcaster, author, and media consultant Sandy Sedgeber
conducts thought provoking interviews with inspirational authors, artists, musicians, scientists, speakers,
and filmmakers who are working at the point where spirituality
(00:32):
and science meet consciousness, at the very edge of Arm.
Here is your host, Sandy Sedgeber.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Hello and Welcome. Books can open portals to realms far
beyond the ordinary, where dragons show up as teachers, Lepricorn's Whisper,
ancient secrets and elementals, hybrids and high binds share the
mysteries of human existence. Some say these stories mirrors to
our subconscious desire for magic and transformation, but for today's guest,
(01:06):
they're much more and stories. They're very real encounters with
realms and beings that challenge the boundaries of what we
believe is possible. Tannis Helliwu is a spiritual transformation teacher,
a mystic and author who's presented at conferences alongside such
luminaries as Rupert Sheldrake, Matthew Fox, Greg Braden Barber, Marx Hubbard,
(01:29):
picture of Kapprajeene Houston, and many more. She joins me
now to share some of her extraordinary encounters chronicled in
her fascinating series of books that illuminate a world where
the magical and the mystical is not just symbolic but
profoundly real. She's also going to bring us up to
date on the latest cosmic changes. Tennis helliwell, welcome, Ah.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Thanks for having me. Sandy was looking forward to us.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
It's good to see you again. Dragons, high beings, electric horns,
and hybrids. I mean people would say high fantasy and
fairy tales, but you've been having real encounters with angels
and elementals and master teachers in higher dimensions since childhood.
Do you recall your very first encounter.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I think that probably my first encounter was before I
was even born. I remember hovering above the earth and
a being with me, a guide that was asking me
are you ready to go back? And are you prepared
(02:41):
to go back? And said yes, I am, But it
was an agreement. It wasn't her you have to go
do this, It was an agreement. And then I remember
her creating a pathway for me, and that I looked
(03:02):
down and I saw my mother like I just actually
saw my mother, and I thought, now is the time
to enter into my mother. And then I did that
and it wasn't at conception. A lot of people say,
well do we enter at conception or later on? And
(03:22):
it was around the eighth month that I actually entered her.
I'm a psychotherapist by training, Sandy, and I used to
take people to look at before they actually entered their
mother and why did they choose their parents and what
was their purpose? And I found that most people don't
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enter until later, So my experience wasn't unusual, so that
that being and being in those other realms was my
first experience. And then when I was born, when I
actually was born, I felt myself being born and the
terrible brightness of the light of the I guess the
(04:05):
operating room, and I remember my first thought was this
is going to be more difficult that I had imagined.
That was my first thought.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Did you have any Inklin before you came in or
soon after, any remembrance of what you came to do.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I think I went into a kind of hiatus for
a very short period of time, a numbness, But I
remember coming to again when I was in a high chair,
and I was crying, and I imagined because I had
diaper rash, and I was crying, and my mother was
(04:57):
so fearful that she was going to get evicted because
the place where she was living with my father, the
agreement was that they didn't have any children, and my
mother had been a working mother, a working person before
she became a mother, and they didn't want children. I
(05:19):
was an accident after seven years, so I knew all
of this. I knew her fears when I was in
her roomb, that she didn't really want me, she didn't
want to be pregnant, wasn't me personally. She was just
terrified of what this was going to mean in her life.
And then I remember, in this very early, this very
(05:42):
early memory, her fear, and I remember that I had
to be good for her. So I was more so
conscious than conscious as a child. I was going to
mother her, I was going to care for her. And
I'm only in a high chair, And from then on
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I was conscious of this.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
And you said that you had some experiences, but you
couldn't tell people because you had a brother who was
said to a psychiatrist.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yes, yeah, he was two years younger than me, and
he also was doing things, and he was sent to
a psychiatrist to get fixed, and he never was quite
the same afterwards. He shut down, he locked himself away.
So I decided to keep everything secret that was happening
(06:43):
to me. And even as a child, I could hear
what other people were thinking, and I could tell the
difference between what they were saying to me out loud
and what they were thinking about me. And even as
and I remember saying to one of my little child friends,
why do you say that? And why do you think
(07:03):
this other thing about me? And then she was terrified
of me. And this other girl we were with was
also who used to like me, was also terrified of me.
And my great fear in my whole life has been abandonment.
And everyone works with one kind of key fear in
(07:28):
their life, right, and that has been mine. So that
was triggered very early. And so I decided to keep
very quiet. Yeah, because at the dinner table, Sandy, when
I tried thinking one thing at my parents and saying
something else, I realized they could not tell the difference.
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So then I realized no adult could help me.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, now you've said that in your is you started
glimpsing past lives, but you still, I imagine at that age,
did not have an inkling what lay in store for you.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
No, no, no. I had one of those near death experiences,
which I didn't even talk about until this last ten years.
But I had a near death experience when I was
nineteen and I was hanging by a rope toe. I
was skiing and the power didn't cut off, and my
(08:30):
scarf had wound itself around, so it went up by
my neck hanging by this rope toe, and as many
people described these experiences, all time almost stopped. It went
very very slowly, and I had complete clarity, and I
had no fear, none. And I saw two paths. One
(08:53):
was I could choose to go. I could choose to
die right there, my neck being broken, and I saw
my parents would be devastated. And I also saw this
other path, and I heard, clearly, you have a choice,
but if you decide to stay, you won't be able
to begin your real work until you're twenty eight. So
(09:15):
I put in time. I went to university, put in
time studying, traveling to other countries, meeting other cultures, people.
Sacred sites always interested me in all other countries and yeah,
so that, but it was a conscious decision to stay.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah. Now, you worked as a management consultant for banks, universities,
government and medical organizations for over forty years, which is
very left brained. You know, what were you doing with
the right brain during that period?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I often wondered, you know, it was Yeah, I had
two lives, truly. I mean during my week, my work week, yes,
that's what I was working for IBM or banks or
even forestry companies, you know, as a consultant, and then
(10:11):
on the weekends, I was leading past life regression workshops,
healing workshops. I had traumas around it. It was not
always easy. I became very well known for doing my
past life regression work and was on like national TV
and radio regressing announcers and in you know, national papers.
(10:36):
And then my corporate clients almost all of them fired
me because I had lost credibility. So for one decade
I didn't even have a calling card. I decided I
would only take what the universe sent to me, and
a whole bunch of corporate clients kept on coming. So
(10:59):
the universe made it clear that I was supposed to
stay in the corporate world, as well as doing my
tours to sacred sites and weekend work. And I so
I've always just done what comes to me. I don't
(11:20):
push to try to do other than what comes. Yeah,
at that.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Time in your life, were you talking to high beings?
Were you communicating you know? Or did that all come
a little bit later after you went to Ireland.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
No, I went to Ireland. By the time I was
in my early viest and by the time I was
in my well early these you know, maybe thirty four,
I had already become a successful consultant. I already had
had my house for a decade and nothing. I didn't
(11:58):
feel like I wanted to do any of it anymore.
I wanted to be enlightened. So I left my sixteen
year relationship, had the house up for sale, quit all
my corporate work, and went to Ireland to become enlightened,
and ended up in a cottage occupied by a leprechaun family.
(12:21):
So my summer of enlightenment definitely took a downturn, and
I ended up working with elementals, even though they told
me at the time, they said, we want you to
write a book about the importance of elementals and how
we want to work with human beings and be co
(12:43):
creators on the planet. But you have to write the
book in a decade. So I returned to Canada once again.
All these corporate consult these corporate corporations wanted me. I
went back to work on weekend. I went back to
doing my weekend spiritual workshops, and in a decade I
(13:06):
wrote the book.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Your First Encounter with a family of Lipricorns. How does
one cope with that?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Well? I wasn't alone. I mean I thought I was
alone with it. But when I went down to the village,
you know, the next day, after I'd had my you know,
my introductory experience that I before, I went down the
next day to get some groceries in and I'm in
the one store in this tiny little village which has
(13:34):
it's the post office as well as the general store.
It's the every other store, and I'm checking out my groceries.
And the man says, saw your holiday maker. And I said, well,
I've rented the Douglas Cottage or the Douglas Cottage. Did
you not know it's haunted? So I pretended like no,
(13:58):
So I said, oh, really haunted by what? He said, Oh,
haunted by the little people. He said, Oh, you're living
on a whole haunted lane. The locals don't even go
up that lane at night.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Why not? Are they're afraid of elypricals.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Evidently this cottage was called the Fairy Cottage and it
was you know, it was well known to the locos.
And isn't that interesting?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, so they wanted you to write a book, and
that that did become The Summer with Elypricals a true story, Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yes it did. Yeah, and that that was yeah, that
was actually my second book, but yes, that became that story.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
What was the first book?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
It was called Decoding Destiny and I wrote it when
I was only about earlies, before I even went to Ireland.
I was told by you asked me the question did
you speak with other beings? And yes I did in
my meditation. They were my only guides and friends. And
(15:06):
so they told me I had to go into meditation
and write a book one summer. And so it was
called Decoding Destiny, Keys to Humanity, Spiritual Evolution. And yeah,
it came out nineteen eighty eight. I was in my thirties.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So what can you tell us about those keys?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
It's an interesting book because people have asked me, is
that channeled and it is not. Sandy. Channels can sit
here and the information comes down to them, But for
me it's I go up to the beings who are
there talking, so it's like having a conversation with you.
(15:54):
And even though I wrote the book because I was
directed to do so, and there were five thousand copies
and they were sold and other people taught my book,
I did not teach my own book until the year
two thousand. I didn't even start because I felt that
although that information was valid, it had not come down
(16:19):
through the various stages it needed to to be anchored
on the earth, and that I wasn't ready as a
human being to be able to physically teach that book.
And then it's about when I finally taught it, started
(16:41):
to teach it in the year two thousand, and I
rewrote it. In the year twenty eleven, I brought it
out again. I had exercises to help people. So the
old way of writing in nineteen eighty eight was more
like Rudolph Steiner or Alice Bailey was old fashioned, and
(17:02):
I didn't even really like it. It was theoretically accurate,
but it wasn't grounded in a concrete, physical reality where
people could take these keys and apply them in their
life in ways that would change them. And that's what
(17:23):
I wanted to do. So I talked about the various
stages in human evolution. I talked about the various beings
who were evolving on this plant, on this planet even then.
So it was a precursor to my work with elementos.
It was a precursor to my work with dragons, to
(17:44):
my book on hybrids. It was often we have fractals
in our life, and that was sort of a precursor
of the whole thing I was going to have to
evolve in more detail. Have you found things like that
would happen at earlier times in your life? I don't
(18:04):
really know.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I mean things happened, you don't take much notice. You
just think it's your life, and you just think that
you know, somebody's introducing you to something. It's only when
you get much older that you start seeing all the
breadcrumbs in that you know that they were all leading
you as if you were cherry picking things to put
in your pocket, that you weren't going to know what
(18:26):
you were going to do with them until much later.
So looking back, I would say.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
At the time, you know, I was just you know,
enjoying being curious.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yes, yes, yeah that yeah, you see so. And if
people look at their lives, if you get to middle
age and you look back at your life, I think
most people would see that there are these recurring patterns
and fractals that are showing them the way. Yes, and
if they pay closer attention to those, that you become
(19:05):
more conscious of what your actual purpose is in life. Yes,
and so I think that's what it was. It was
sort of like I was a bud in my at
age thirty one or two, when I'm writing I'm a
bud and this blood had to open.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yes, yeah, it's a good way to describe it. I
can certainly remember doing things and people would say, why
are you doing that? You know, it was so different
and unusual and not the dune thing in that particular arena.
And I did them just because the idea had occurred
to me. But now I can see the purpose for them.
I can see where they were leading and what they
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were showing me about myself.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yes, and who knows how those ideas occur. You see,
you said to me, were you talking to other beings. Well,
I actually was talking to other beings. But for people
who say, well I wasn't talking to other beings, but
maybe other beings are planting little seeds that we're picking
(20:13):
up on.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yes, yes, you know. I used to bemoan the fact
that nobody spoke to me. You know, I'd wake up
other people and they'd be talking to angels and all sorts,
and nobody spoke to me. But I've had I would think,
probably no more than three what I call downloads in
my life. And they were very, very clear. Is if
(20:35):
somebody unfold a picture in front of me, and I've
never understood where they came from. They were complete within themselves, wonderful.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
And just as you said that, I got these shivers
of rightness. And so some people get downloads. You had
three of them. I have this, you know, other thing,
which is Tannis do this and and I'm obedient to
do it. And other people may just have subtle little
(21:07):
hints and they can either pick up on them and
then their life goes in the right direction, or they
can ignore them, and then I think they become more
shut down. Yes, you know, their intuition dolls. So if
we pick up on those little hints, our intuition increases,
(21:28):
and then we get more of them, and then our
life starts to have synchronicities. Yes, yeah, but we often
have choice, yeah, do apply it or not?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And we never know what was it that made us
go with that and make that choice. You know, we
don't know what was prompting us, but something clearly was.
Tell me when you know, I've been reading your Dragon's
Book and I love it, and you're very obedient, You're
very when they ask you to do something, you do it?
(22:06):
Is that? Why is that?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
You know?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Do you ever feel like saying no?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I often feel overwhelmed, and I sometimes feel I don't
know if I can do a good job right? Can
I do this as well as it needs to be done.
But the older I get, the less that that bothers me.
And I think that this insecurity that I had originally
(22:35):
comes from the fact that in school, Sandy, I was
not academically brilliant. So people have different gifts, and some
people have natural sports gifts and they excel, and others
have mathematical gifts and they excel. And I didn't have
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any gifts that academically life was going to reward we
do not get rewarded for being a mystic in our
school system.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
So, having gone through our school system, it wasn't until
I got to university and even into a master's program
in university that I started getting better and better and
better academically. And it was really because I could as
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I went further in education, I became more like myself
and I could use my own intuition and my own
special way of viewing things in greater detail rather than
trying to become what the system thought was going to
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be a success. And so so I think that that
was where I gained confidence, was that the older I got,
the more that I was being accepted and rewarded, if
you like, for who I was. So now I really
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don't feel I have anything to prove at all to anyone.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Well, you have a wonderful relationship with the dragons. I mean,
dragons are fearsome creatures, you know, and you know they're
part of our mythology. I've always believed in dragons. I
never believed that somebody had made them up. I felt
there was some truth in that. But when you first
were approached by dragons, were you frightened?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
No? Because I had had other experiences I had had.
You talked earlier about your downloads, these these three major downloads,
and about I just wrote The Dragon Wagon's Tail, that's
the name of the book, The Dragon's Tail, just this
last year, but at least thirty years prior to that,
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I had one of those lucid dreams where I awoke
in this cave and saw these pillars and a great
boulder beside me, and wondered, how the heck did I
get into this cave? And I walked to this great,
big opening, and I looked out and found out I
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was hundreds of feet above any ground, and there were
dragons flying across my path of sight, all different colors,
red and ruby and emerald. And then I looked back
at these pillars, and I looked back at the boulder,
and I realized those were dragon legs, and that was
(25:51):
a dragon in an egg that was going to wake up.
And then I awoke. I awoke, but I awoke with
this knowledge that I was being brooded by a dragon.
And what the heck did this mean? That I'm in
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a dragon layer being brooded by a dragon. So I
knew that there was this strong relationship, but I didn't
know what it meant, so I didn't talk about it.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You say in a Dragon's Tale that the dragon Jake
has said that you were Was it a nest sister? There?
You have a dragon? Is it dragon Dna? What would
you call me?
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Well?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I have, yes. I talk about the fact that we
are that many of us, if not all of us,
I really don't know about all of us, but I
sure do know about many of us are actually hybrids.
We humans think that we're you know, yellow, red, black, white,
(27:04):
ad that we all are one hundred percent human, even
though we're you know, just a little bit different color
or something. And I do not think this is the
case at all. I think there that there are these
spiritual beings and evolutions that are interacting with humans, and
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not only on a mental sphere. Not only mentally are
they interacting or spiritually are they interacting, but that we
may very well have been beings who have come from
other planets, other solar systems, and that we are helping
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humanity and interacting with humanity and in some way becoming
a hybrid. And I don't know how that would be happening.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
No, I mean, it's it's a curious one. It's very
hard to get your head around, isn't it that you
could be anything other than what you are? Even life,
it's difficult to get your hit around.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, And I think that they're like what I found
in my life, in my personal life, and that's all
I can go on, really, But when I talk about it,
it rings true for others. That's what I've also noticed.
And you mentioned that you always have felt this relationship,
for example, with dragons, and what I've what I've noticed
(28:36):
is that when we start our conscious spiritual journey, I'll
just call it the conscious one, we become interested, usually
in our own physical heritage, our own ancestors, our mother, father, grandparents,
and what countries do they come from, and what qualities
(28:58):
do they have, And that's our first, our first look
at something. But then when we go a little further
into that journey, we often start having past life experiences,
and then we say, not only is it this life
that's important, but our past lives are impacting on this
(29:19):
life and are influencing this life, yes, you know. And
then after we unwrap that further, I have found there's
this layer of who are we really? And once we
get to the who are we really? String we are
into hybrids. Yeah, who is our soul? What is our soul?
(29:43):
Really is really what it comes back to. And so
that's what I've noticed for people, and that's why I
wrote that one book. You know, hybrid So you think
you're human human?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, yeah, And a lot of people they find that
hard to believe. But I mean the fact that we
have two parents right there, We're a hybrid. Back further
and further and further, and you look at you know,
I mean, how many people's DNA do we have in here?
How many other kinds of DNA do we have in here?
(30:16):
It's a fascinating topic. We're going to take a short
break now, Tannis. You're listening to What is going On?
I'm Sandy Sedgbier, and my guest today is mystic author
and founder of the International Institute for Transformation, Tennis Helliwell,
who has been who has seen and has heard elementals,
angels and master teachers in higher dimensions since childhood, and
(30:39):
written many wonderful books about her experiences. We'll be back
with more from Tennis Halliwell after this break. Hello. I'm
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Speaker 2 (34:32):
Bad Tennis Helliwell, you know, for the last what thirty
forty years, we have seen an awful lot of science
fiction as as an incredibly popular genre, and also fantasy.
You know, my children's generation grew up on the fantasy
books and of course a lot about dragons. Do you
think that we are being seeded prompted with this information
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because you know, dragons and other beings want to start
communicating with us and have a relationship.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Absolutely, I believe that the Earth is going through a
rebirth as a conscious planet, and that there are immense
cosmic energies coming into the Earth right now, and that
the ring of unconsciousness around the Earth is breaking open,
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and that these other evolutions, these star evolutions, beings who
have evolved beyond where we currently are, are coming to
help us. And so we are moving up into an
astro frequency now, I think sandy a higher frequency than
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we have been in previously. So some people are starting
to see elementals. Many people people have seen angels, right.
Angels were the first ones that came into consciousness. About
twenty years ago people started talking about angels and then
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near death experiences and UFOs, So these were the first
kind of things that came into consciousness as other than
our third dimensional reality. And from there then elementals that
we have another race of beings on the planet that
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want that build all form. They build the trees and
the plants, and the water and the air, these elemental
beings and that they also you know, want to work
with us. So, but elementals, here's the Earth frequency right here.
Third dimensional reality is where most of us are conscious.
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And then here's the elementals and the angelic you know,
some of the just like say, you know archangel Michael
quite close to the Earth. And then above that you
start getting myriad other worlds, other worlds that are in
other dimensions, that are in other frequencies. And the realm
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of the Murr people the Mermaids is an astral realm
right about there. And then the Dragon realm is very high.
It's a very high astral low causal. So that means
almost through all the emotional to mental high mental realm
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is the Dragon realm. So these are only some of
the realms that are starting to influence humanity. And I
believe it's an incredible cosmic plaid that this is happening
right now. I remember with our inst to I was
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doing a summer camp for children and teenagers having breakthrough
spiritual breakthroughs. And I was doing this about fifteen years ago,
and I was leading the children in a guided visualization
to see what kind of being wanted to communicate with them,
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and their parents were there as well, and I thought
most people would choose fairies and elves. I thought that
because earlier in the week we had been doing some
stuff with fairies and elves. And what was very interesting
is after they finished the Guide to Visualizations, and I
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asked the parents, well what did you get? They got
all these elementals? And then I said to the children,
and what kind of being were you working with? Every
child said dragons?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Is there a hierarchy? I mean, we've got the elementals,
we've got the ellipticns. You know, we've got higher beings,
we've got dragons. Is there a hierarchy amongst them?
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I think that if you think of the Christ, so
humans we are being influenced by the Christ, the Christ consciousness.
And because that's love. You know, we're a planet of love.
We're to evolve love. And Jesus the Christ is about love.
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So just like Jesus had twelve disciples and they all
have their own unique talents, I would say that, And
there's archangel Michael, who's the head of the blu ray,
But then there are other angels that would work beneath
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Michael on that same ray of energy. So I believe
that there is a hierarchy of consciousness that exists for
all beings, and that it is continuous, so that as
we rise to one level, we open up to other truths,
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other knowledge that maybe was not available to us.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
That makes sense. So a hierarchy of consciousness, which is
different from what I was asking about, which is a
hierarchy of power. I mean, but it's a different kind
of power, isn't it. So they're all here, they're all
making themselves known and available to help humanity.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Why, because of it's the timing. It's the universal intelligence,
the creator of our particular galaxy. It's the universal timing
that we are at a stage. The Earth is at
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a stage, Humanity is at a stage in its evolution.
The Sun, our own solar system, which is a conscious being.
It's not only Mother Earth, it's this Sun is a
conscious being as well. That we are at a stage
where we can move to the next level of consciousness.
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And in this next level of consciousness, we will be
able to communicate with all these different beings because we're
rising into this astra level where they can talk to us.
So the dragons, for example, as I was being told
in the book The Dragons Tale, the dragons specialize because
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they're beings of earth, air, fire, and water. In other words,
they've got all elements. They can catalyze the Kundalini energy.
They can can't catalyze our Kundalini energy in us individually,
and the Kundalini energy of the planet. Before we went
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on air, we were talking about the dragon lines and
how we even talk about the dragon lines on the
Earth or the lay lines, and these are these are
the Kundalini energy lines of the Earth. And so the
dragons are here to help to help raise us. And
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humanity may say, my god, what a terrible mess we've
made of the environment, and we are totally responsible for
all the earthquakes and all the global warming at the volcados,
and you know we're terrible. Well, on what level this
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may be true that we have been irresponsible, but on
another level we are This is so far beyond us,
these cosmic changes that are catalyzing this for us, that
we are only this small part of what is happening.
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And I believe what is going on, Sandy is that
as we rise to this next level of consciousness, humanity
has to redress and correct all of our erroneous thinking
and emotions, negative emotions and actions that have caused what
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we humans have done, and that individual you and I
have our own work to do looking at our own
erroneous actions in this life or perhaps in other lives.
I believe that this even comes to us and correct this.
So each of us has a responsibility because we're a
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cell in the collective of humanity, and humanity is a
cell in the body of the earth. So that is
our responsibility, and that's how each of us can help
with this evolution of consciousness right now. So that's what
we need to do.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
You know, there's one thing I'm curious about with regard
to dragons, and that is that if they are a
much higher consciousness, I mean, you know, the bill on
end or of everything is love. Yeah, if they are
a much higher consciousness, do they experience love? Because everything
we read about dragons is they're very egotistical.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
That's a great question, and I believe I think that
their main gift is wisdom. We also hear about dragons
that they're all knowing, and I believe their main gift
is wisdom and that in their wisdom, they are aligned
to universal consciousness. So even if you look at masters,
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if you talk about great masters, who we know. For example,
you will see that one quality either love, wisdom, or
will will be their main one. Now, to be full creators,
we need to have very much a working knowledge of
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all three. However, each of us has more of one
of these naturally than another. For example, I'm more wisdom
that I am love, and yet my whole life I
have worked on developing my love, and only in my
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later life, since you know, the last twenty four years
of founding our institute, have I had to work with will.
So if you look at yourself, which one is your strength?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
I think mine is probably a wisdom. It's that all will.
I mean, you know, I don't want to sound as
if I'm devoidable love. That's not true, but I do
know that. Yeah, I think it's will or wisdom.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Yeah, So you see, And it's not that we are
imperfect human beings. It's that we do value these other
qualities and that we are trying to grow them in ourselves,
but that we have our natural gift. And I believe
it's the same with masters. If you look at masters,
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you can see which ones are more love, which ones
are more wisdom, and solve dragons more wisdom, And then
of course great power, great power, and why would they
be working with humans on the earth? Well, what are
we a planet of love?
Speaker 4 (47:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (47:19):
So in working with us and in service to us,
they develop love.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Yes, because we tend to forget that it's a two
way street. They're getting something out of this too, they
are so you know, at this time of great, incredible
cosmic changes, I think, unlike anything perhaps that humanity and
this planet has ever seen before, what is it that
they most want us to take on board to do.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
The dragons or all of them?
Speaker 2 (47:53):
All of all of them?
Speaker 3 (47:55):
I think that we are meant to be humans, are
meant to be co creators. I believe that we are
God's in training. We are Gods in training, and we
may only be kindergarten level, but that we're meant to
become co creators with universal intelligence, with spirit, with God,
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whatever you want to call it. And to do this
we have to become conscious and so that we if
we just embrace, embrace this purpose and then make it
our primary goal to say, what in me is aligned
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to what I feel my soul is wanting, and what
in me is not yet quite in line and it
needs tweaking, and every day, every day tweak that every
day try to improve on that weakness. And this is
how we can sign up. But it's not to feel
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that we are inferior or that we are less than,
but to celebrate what we are and to tweak what
we're not. That we participate in this journey to consciousness
so that we can become what I believe humanity is,
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to become guardians of this wonderful planet and working with
elementals who are also on this wonderful planet. Yeah, what
do you think, Sandy? That is a question you asked me?
What if I ask you that question?
Speaker 2 (49:49):
I think that we are definitely on a journey back
to something. I often feel that to a degree, you know,
we kind of devote and now we're on the upward
path finding our way back to oneness, you know, and
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you know, yeah, complete oneness. And I think that all
of the you know, the other beings are probably doing
the same, and some are further along than others. But
you know, I don't understand what else we would be doing.
You know, It's got to be the only thing worth doing.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
Yeah, Yes, And what if, as you mentioned earlier about
the hierarchies, so that if we're evolving and we're moving
up the rings of the hierarchies, and at one point
we unite with the one oneness. However, what if it
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doesn't stop, Sandy. What if it's a continual evolution of
consciousness and as we you and I become more conscious,
we are also affecting the consciousness of our creator.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Yeah, and it's a never ending journey. Yes, And so
then you have to sit and wonder how far can
it go to infinite beyond?
Speaker 4 (51:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, So in your International Institute for Transformation, is this
what you are teaching students?
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Yes, yeah, it's It's very funny. I always think it's
very funny that people often are attracted to be and
they think it's the Leprechaun lady, and we're going to
learn all about cute little fairies and how to work
with elementals. And then they meet me and they think
it's all about transformation, it's all about consciousness, and yeah, yeah,
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it is all about transformation, and I love our element friends,
but it's about so much more.
Speaker 4 (52:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah. On your website you offer a free spiritual Transformation
starter kit. What were they finding.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
There, Well, hopefully they'd find out what their gifts are
where they've got to work. Yeah, it's one of these
questionnaires that will help them assess their own spiritual intelligence.
Because we talked about mathematical intelligence or natural intelligence, you
could have spiritual intelligence. And then you can look at yeah,
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and where do I need to focus? What do I
need to do more?
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Yeah, And you're starting up a new course in the
new year.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
I am. It's called Visit Magical Realms, and it starts
in January, and we are meeting once a month, once
in January, once in February, and once in March. And
we're studying three different books. We're studying these three different
books to help people move to hire frequencies, to help
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them become more conscious. And the first book is called
Good Morning Henry, an in depth journey with the Body intelligence,
and this is about our soul and an awakening to
what our soul is saying we need to do next,
but in a very concrete, practical, physical way. And then
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there's hybrids, So you think you're human, and this is
going to allow people to look at the twenty two
possible hybrids they could be and to find out which
one are they likely. And then there's the last book
is on the Dragons and what are the dragons trying
to tell us? And how can we work with them
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in this energy? Yeah, wonderful line invictation.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
I love the name of that course.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
Visit Magical Realms.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah yeah, Who could resist? Who could resist?
Speaker 3 (54:03):
Who could resist?
Speaker 2 (54:04):
No one, no one, Tennis Helliwell, I'm afraid that we're
out of time, which is such a shame because I
could talk to you for hours. Thank you so much
for joining us today.
Speaker 3 (54:14):
It has been such a treat and I love having
conversations with you, Sandy.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Thank you, Tennis. So if you want to know about
the Dragon's Tail, the Leprecorn story, manifest your soul's purpose,
decoding your destiny, you can go over to Tennis helliwell
dot com where you can learn all about these wonderful
titles and more about her study courses, chos to Sacred
Sites and everything else. Tennis Helliwell, that's it for this week.
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I'm Sandy Sedgeber. I'll be back at the same time
next week with another edition of What Is going On
Till then It's goodbye for me and thanks again to
Tennis helliwell
Speaker 7 (55:48):
S
Welcome to what is going on for New Thought from
the Edge of Arm. Each week on home Time's flagship
radio show, veteran broadcaster, author, and media consultant Sandy Sedgeber
conducts thought provoking interviews with inspirational authors, artists, musicians, scientists, speakers,
and filmmakers who are working at the point where spirituality
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and science meet consciousness, at the very edge of Arm.
Here is your host, Sandy Sedgeber.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Hello and Welcome. Books can open portals to realms far
beyond the ordinary, where dragons show up as teachers, Lepricorn's Whisper,
ancient secrets and elementals, hybrids and high binds share the
mysteries of human existence. Some say these stories mirrors to
our subconscious desire for magic and transformation, but for today's guest,
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they're much more and stories. They're very real encounters with
realms and beings that challenge the boundaries of what we
believe is possible. Tannis Helliwu is a spiritual transformation teacher,
a mystic and author who's presented at conferences alongside such
luminaries as Rupert Sheldrake, Matthew Fox, Greg Braden Barber, Marx Hubbard,
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picture of Kapprajeene Houston, and many more. She joins me
now to share some of her extraordinary encounters chronicled in
her fascinating series of books that illuminate a world where
the magical and the mystical is not just symbolic but
profoundly real. She's also going to bring us up to
date on the latest cosmic changes. Tennis helliwell, welcome, Ah.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Thanks for having me. Sandy was looking forward to us.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
It's good to see you again. Dragons, high beings, electric horns,
and hybrids. I mean people would say high fantasy and
fairy tales, but you've been having real encounters with angels
and elementals and master teachers in higher dimensions since childhood.
Do you recall your very first encounter.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I think that probably my first encounter was before I
was even born. I remember hovering above the earth and
a being with me, a guide that was asking me
are you ready to go back? And are you prepared
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to go back? And said yes, I am, But it
was an agreement. It wasn't her you have to go
do this, It was an agreement. And then I remember
her creating a pathway for me, and that I looked
(03:02):
down and I saw my mother like I just actually
saw my mother, and I thought, now is the time
to enter into my mother. And then I did that
and it wasn't at conception. A lot of people say,
well do we enter at conception or later on? And
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it was around the eighth month that I actually entered her.
I'm a psychotherapist by training, Sandy, and I used to
take people to look at before they actually entered their
mother and why did they choose their parents and what
was their purpose? And I found that most people don't
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enter until later, So my experience wasn't unusual, so that
that being and being in those other realms was my
first experience. And then when I was born, when I
actually was born, I felt myself being born and the
terrible brightness of the light of the I guess the
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operating room, and I remember my first thought was this
is going to be more difficult that I had imagined.
That was my first thought.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Did you have any Inklin before you came in or
soon after, any remembrance of what you came to do.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I think I went into a kind of hiatus for
a very short period of time, a numbness, But I
remember coming to again when I was in a high chair,
and I was crying, and I imagined because I had
diaper rash, and I was crying, and my mother was
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so fearful that she was going to get evicted because
the place where she was living with my father, the
agreement was that they didn't have any children, and my
mother had been a working mother, a working person before
she became a mother, and they didn't want children. I
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was an accident after seven years, so I knew all
of this. I knew her fears when I was in
her roomb, that she didn't really want me, she didn't
want to be pregnant, wasn't me personally. She was just
terrified of what this was going to mean in her life.
And then I remember, in this very early, this very
(05:42):
early memory, her fear, and I remember that I had
to be good for her. So I was more so
conscious than conscious as a child. I was going to
mother her, I was going to care for her. And
I'm only in a high chair, And from then on
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I was conscious of this.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
And you said that you had some experiences, but you
couldn't tell people because you had a brother who was
said to a psychiatrist.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yes, yeah, he was two years younger than me, and
he also was doing things, and he was sent to
a psychiatrist to get fixed, and he never was quite
the same afterwards. He shut down, he locked himself away.
So I decided to keep everything secret that was happening
(06:43):
to me. And even as a child, I could hear
what other people were thinking, and I could tell the
difference between what they were saying to me out loud
and what they were thinking about me. And even as
and I remember saying to one of my little child friends,
why do you say that? And why do you think
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this other thing about me? And then she was terrified
of me. And this other girl we were with was
also who used to like me, was also terrified of me.
And my great fear in my whole life has been abandonment.
And everyone works with one kind of key fear in
(07:28):
their life, right, and that has been mine. So that
was triggered very early. And so I decided to keep
very quiet. Yeah, because at the dinner table, Sandy, when
I tried thinking one thing at my parents and saying
something else, I realized they could not tell the difference.
(07:51):
So then I realized no adult could help me.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, now you've said that in your is you started
glimpsing past lives, but you still, I imagine at that age,
did not have an inkling what lay in store for you.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
No, no, no. I had one of those near death experiences,
which I didn't even talk about until this last ten years.
But I had a near death experience when I was
nineteen and I was hanging by a rope toe. I
was skiing and the power didn't cut off, and my
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scarf had wound itself around, so it went up by
my neck hanging by this rope toe, and as many
people described these experiences, all time almost stopped. It went
very very slowly, and I had complete clarity, and I
had no fear, none. And I saw two paths. One
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was I could choose to go. I could choose to
die right there, my neck being broken, and I saw
my parents would be devastated. And I also saw this
other path, and I heard, clearly, you have a choice,
but if you decide to stay, you won't be able
to begin your real work until you're twenty eight. So
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I put in time. I went to university, put in
time studying, traveling to other countries, meeting other cultures, people.
Sacred sites always interested me in all other countries and yeah,
so that, but it was a conscious decision to stay.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah. Now, you worked as a management consultant for banks, universities,
government and medical organizations for over forty years, which is
very left brained. You know, what were you doing with
the right brain during that period?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I often wondered, you know, it was Yeah, I had
two lives, truly. I mean during my week, my work week, yes,
that's what I was working for IBM or banks or
even forestry companies, you know, as a consultant, and then
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on the weekends, I was leading past life regression workshops,
healing workshops. I had traumas around it. It was not
always easy. I became very well known for doing my
past life regression work and was on like national TV
and radio regressing announcers and in you know, national papers.
(10:36):
And then my corporate clients almost all of them fired
me because I had lost credibility. So for one decade
I didn't even have a calling card. I decided I
would only take what the universe sent to me, and
a whole bunch of corporate clients kept on coming. So
(10:59):
the universe made it clear that I was supposed to
stay in the corporate world, as well as doing my
tours to sacred sites and weekend work. And I so
I've always just done what comes to me. I don't
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push to try to do other than what comes. Yeah,
at that.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Time in your life, were you talking to high beings?
Were you communicating you know? Or did that all come
a little bit later after you went to Ireland.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
No, I went to Ireland. By the time I was
in my early viest and by the time I was
in my well early these you know, maybe thirty four,
I had already become a successful consultant. I already had
had my house for a decade and nothing. I didn't
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feel like I wanted to do any of it anymore.
I wanted to be enlightened. So I left my sixteen
year relationship, had the house up for sale, quit all
my corporate work, and went to Ireland to become enlightened,
and ended up in a cottage occupied by a leprechaun family.
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So my summer of enlightenment definitely took a downturn, and
I ended up working with elementals, even though they told
me at the time, they said, we want you to
write a book about the importance of elementals and how
we want to work with human beings and be co
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creators on the planet. But you have to write the
book in a decade. So I returned to Canada once again.
All these corporate consult these corporate corporations wanted me. I
went back to work on weekend. I went back to
doing my weekend spiritual workshops, and in a decade I
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wrote the book.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Your First Encounter with a family of Lipricorns. How does
one cope with that?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Well? I wasn't alone. I mean I thought I was
alone with it. But when I went down to the village,
you know, the next day, after I'd had my you know,
my introductory experience that I before, I went down the
next day to get some groceries in and I'm in
the one store in this tiny little village which has
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it's the post office as well as the general store.
It's the every other store, and I'm checking out my groceries.
And the man says, saw your holiday maker. And I said, well,
I've rented the Douglas Cottage or the Douglas Cottage. Did
you not know it's haunted? So I pretended like no,
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So I said, oh, really haunted by what? He said, Oh,
haunted by the little people. He said, Oh, you're living
on a whole haunted lane. The locals don't even go
up that lane at night.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Why not? Are they're afraid of elypricals.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Evidently this cottage was called the Fairy Cottage and it
was you know, it was well known to the locos.
And isn't that interesting?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, so they wanted you to write a book, and
that that did become The Summer with Elypricals a true story, Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yes it did. Yeah, and that that was yeah, that
was actually my second book, but yes, that became that story.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
What was the first book?
Speaker 3 (14:45):
It was called Decoding Destiny and I wrote it when
I was only about earlies, before I even went to Ireland.
I was told by you asked me the question did
you speak with other beings? And yes I did in
my meditation. They were my only guides and friends. And
(15:06):
so they told me I had to go into meditation
and write a book one summer. And so it was
called Decoding Destiny, Keys to Humanity, Spiritual Evolution. And yeah,
it came out nineteen eighty eight. I was in my thirties.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So what can you tell us about those keys?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
It's an interesting book because people have asked me, is
that channeled and it is not. Sandy. Channels can sit
here and the information comes down to them, But for
me it's I go up to the beings who are
there talking, so it's like having a conversation with you.
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And even though I wrote the book because I was
directed to do so, and there were five thousand copies
and they were sold and other people taught my book,
I did not teach my own book until the year
two thousand. I didn't even start because I felt that
although that information was valid, it had not come down
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through the various stages it needed to to be anchored
on the earth, and that I wasn't ready as a
human being to be able to physically teach that book.
And then it's about when I finally taught it, started
(16:41):
to teach it in the year two thousand, and I
rewrote it. In the year twenty eleven, I brought it
out again. I had exercises to help people. So the
old way of writing in nineteen eighty eight was more
like Rudolph Steiner or Alice Bailey was old fashioned, and
(17:02):
I didn't even really like it. It was theoretically accurate,
but it wasn't grounded in a concrete, physical reality where
people could take these keys and apply them in their
life in ways that would change them. And that's what
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I wanted to do. So I talked about the various
stages in human evolution. I talked about the various beings
who were evolving on this plant, on this planet even then.
So it was a precursor to my work with elementos.
It was a precursor to my work with dragons, to
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my book on hybrids. It was often we have fractals
in our life, and that was sort of a precursor
of the whole thing I was going to have to
evolve in more detail. Have you found things like that
would happen at earlier times in your life? I don't
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really know.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I mean things happened, you don't take much notice. You
just think it's your life, and you just think that
you know, somebody's introducing you to something. It's only when
you get much older that you start seeing all the
breadcrumbs in that you know that they were all leading
you as if you were cherry picking things to put
in your pocket, that you weren't going to know what
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you were going to do with them until much later.
So looking back, I would say.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
At the time, you know, I was just you know,
enjoying being curious.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yes, yes, yeah that yeah, you see so. And if
people look at their lives, if you get to middle
age and you look back at your life, I think
most people would see that there are these recurring patterns
and fractals that are showing them the way. Yes, and
if they pay closer attention to those, that you become
(19:05):
more conscious of what your actual purpose is in life. Yes,
and so I think that's what it was. It was
sort of like I was a bud in my at
age thirty one or two, when I'm writing I'm a
bud and this blood had to open.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yes, yeah, it's a good way to describe it. I
can certainly remember doing things and people would say, why
are you doing that? You know, it was so different
and unusual and not the dune thing in that particular arena.
And I did them just because the idea had occurred
to me. But now I can see the purpose for them.
I can see where they were leading and what they
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were showing me about myself.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yes, and who knows how those ideas occur. You see,
you said to me, were you talking to other beings. Well,
I actually was talking to other beings. But for people
who say, well I wasn't talking to other beings, but
maybe other beings are planting little seeds that we're picking
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up on.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yes, yes, you know. I used to bemoan the fact
that nobody spoke to me. You know, I'd wake up
other people and they'd be talking to angels and all sorts,
and nobody spoke to me. But I've had I would think,
probably no more than three what I call downloads in
my life. And they were very, very clear. Is if
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somebody unfold a picture in front of me, and I've
never understood where they came from. They were complete within themselves, wonderful.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
And just as you said that, I got these shivers
of rightness. And so some people get downloads. You had
three of them. I have this, you know, other thing,
which is Tannis do this and and I'm obedient to
do it. And other people may just have subtle little
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hints and they can either pick up on them and
then their life goes in the right direction, or they
can ignore them, and then I think they become more
shut down. Yes, you know, their intuition dolls. So if
we pick up on those little hints, our intuition increases,
(21:28):
and then we get more of them, and then our
life starts to have synchronicities. Yes, yeah, but we often
have choice, yeah, do apply it or not?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
And we never know what was it that made us
go with that and make that choice. You know, we
don't know what was prompting us, but something clearly was.
Tell me when you know, I've been reading your Dragon's
Book and I love it, and you're very obedient, You're
very when they ask you to do something, you do it?
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Is that? Why is that?
Speaker 5 (22:08):
You know?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Do you ever feel like saying no?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I often feel overwhelmed, and I sometimes feel I don't
know if I can do a good job right? Can
I do this as well as it needs to be done.
But the older I get, the less that that bothers me.
And I think that this insecurity that I had originally
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comes from the fact that in school, Sandy, I was
not academically brilliant. So people have different gifts, and some
people have natural sports gifts and they excel, and others
have mathematical gifts and they excel. And I didn't have
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any gifts that academically life was going to reward we
do not get rewarded for being a mystic in our
school system.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
So, having gone through our school system, it wasn't until
I got to university and even into a master's program
in university that I started getting better and better and
better academically. And it was really because I could as
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I went further in education, I became more like myself
and I could use my own intuition and my own
special way of viewing things in greater detail rather than
trying to become what the system thought was going to
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be a success. And so so I think that that
was where I gained confidence, was that the older I got,
the more that I was being accepted and rewarded, if
you like, for who I was. So now I really
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don't feel I have anything to prove at all to anyone.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Well, you have a wonderful relationship with the dragons. I mean,
dragons are fearsome creatures, you know, and you know they're
part of our mythology. I've always believed in dragons. I
never believed that somebody had made them up. I felt
there was some truth in that. But when you first
were approached by dragons, were you frightened?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
No? Because I had had other experiences I had had.
You talked earlier about your downloads, these these three major downloads,
and about I just wrote The Dragon Wagon's Tail, that's
the name of the book, The Dragon's Tail, just this
last year, but at least thirty years prior to that,
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I had one of those lucid dreams where I awoke
in this cave and saw these pillars and a great
boulder beside me, and wondered, how the heck did I
get into this cave? And I walked to this great,
big opening, and I looked out and found out I
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was hundreds of feet above any ground, and there were
dragons flying across my path of sight, all different colors,
red and ruby and emerald. And then I looked back
at these pillars, and I looked back at the boulder,
and I realized those were dragon legs, and that was
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a dragon in an egg that was going to wake up.
And then I awoke. I awoke, but I awoke with
this knowledge that I was being brooded by a dragon.
And what the heck did this mean? That I'm in
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a dragon layer being brooded by a dragon. So I
knew that there was this strong relationship, but I didn't
know what it meant, so I didn't talk about it.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
You say in a Dragon's Tale that the dragon Jake
has said that you were Was it a nest sister? There?
You have a dragon? Is it dragon Dna? What would
you call me?
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Well?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I have, yes. I talk about the fact that we
are that many of us, if not all of us,
I really don't know about all of us, but I
sure do know about many of us are actually hybrids.
We humans think that we're you know, yellow, red, black, white,
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ad that we all are one hundred percent human, even
though we're you know, just a little bit different color
or something. And I do not think this is the
case at all. I think there that there are these
spiritual beings and evolutions that are interacting with humans, and
(27:27):
not only on a mental sphere. Not only mentally are
they interacting or spiritually are they interacting, but that we
may very well have been beings who have come from
other planets, other solar systems, and that we are helping
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humanity and interacting with humanity and in some way becoming
a hybrid. And I don't know how that would be happening.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
No, I mean, it's it's a curious one. It's very
hard to get your head around, isn't it that you
could be anything other than what you are? Even life,
it's difficult to get your hit around.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, And I think that they're like what I found
in my life, in my personal life, and that's all
I can go on, really, But when I talk about it,
it rings true for others. That's what I've also noticed.
And you mentioned that you always have felt this relationship,
for example, with dragons, and what I've what I've noticed
(28:36):
is that when we start our conscious spiritual journey, I'll
just call it the conscious one, we become interested, usually
in our own physical heritage, our own ancestors, our mother, father, grandparents,
and what countries do they come from, and what qualities
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do they have, And that's our first, our first look
at something. But then when we go a little further
into that journey, we often start having past life experiences,
and then we say, not only is it this life
that's important, but our past lives are impacting on this
(29:19):
life and are influencing this life, yes, you know. And
then after we unwrap that further, I have found there's
this layer of who are we really? And once we
get to the who are we really? String we are
into hybrids. Yeah, who is our soul? What is our soul?
(29:43):
Really is really what it comes back to. And so
that's what I've noticed for people, and that's why I
wrote that one book. You know, hybrid So you think
you're human human?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yeah, yeah, And a lot of people they find that
hard to believe. But I mean the fact that we
have two parents right there, We're a hybrid. Back further
and further and further, and you look at you know,
I mean, how many people's DNA do we have in here?
How many other kinds of DNA do we have in here?
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It's a fascinating topic. We're going to take a short
break now, Tannis. You're listening to What is going On?
I'm Sandy Sedgbier, and my guest today is mystic author
and founder of the International Institute for Transformation, Tennis Helliwell,
who has been who has seen and has heard elementals,
angels and master teachers in higher dimensions since childhood, and
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Speaker 2 (34:32):
Bad Tennis Helliwell, you know, for the last what thirty
forty years, we have seen an awful lot of science
fiction as as an incredibly popular genre, and also fantasy.
You know, my children's generation grew up on the fantasy
books and of course a lot about dragons. Do you
think that we are being seeded prompted with this information
(34:57):
because you know, dragons and other beings want to start
communicating with us and have a relationship.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Absolutely, I believe that the Earth is going through a
rebirth as a conscious planet, and that there are immense
cosmic energies coming into the Earth right now, and that
the ring of unconsciousness around the Earth is breaking open,
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and that these other evolutions, these star evolutions, beings who
have evolved beyond where we currently are, are coming to
help us. And so we are moving up into an
astro frequency now, I think sandy a higher frequency than
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we have been in previously. So some people are starting
to see elementals. Many people people have seen angels, right.
Angels were the first ones that came into consciousness. About
twenty years ago people started talking about angels and then
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near death experiences and UFOs, So these were the first
kind of things that came into consciousness as other than
our third dimensional reality. And from there then elementals that
we have another race of beings on the planet that
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want that build all form. They build the trees and
the plants, and the water and the air, these elemental
beings and that they also you know, want to work
with us. So, but elementals, here's the Earth frequency right here.
Third dimensional reality is where most of us are conscious.
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And then here's the elementals and the angelic you know,
some of the just like say, you know archangel Michael
quite close to the Earth. And then above that you
start getting myriad other worlds, other worlds that are in
other dimensions, that are in other frequencies. And the realm
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of the Murr people the Mermaids is an astral realm
right about there. And then the Dragon realm is very high.
It's a very high astral low causal. So that means
almost through all the emotional to mental high mental realm
(37:39):
is the Dragon realm. So these are only some of
the realms that are starting to influence humanity. And I
believe it's an incredible cosmic plaid that this is happening
right now. I remember with our inst to I was
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doing a summer camp for children and teenagers having breakthrough
spiritual breakthroughs. And I was doing this about fifteen years ago,
and I was leading the children in a guided visualization
to see what kind of being wanted to communicate with them,
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and their parents were there as well, and I thought
most people would choose fairies and elves. I thought that
because earlier in the week we had been doing some
stuff with fairies and elves. And what was very interesting
is after they finished the Guide to Visualizations, and I
(38:50):
asked the parents, well what did you get? They got
all these elementals? And then I said to the children,
and what kind of being were you working with? Every
child said dragons?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Is there a hierarchy? I mean, we've got the elementals,
we've got the ellipticns. You know, we've got higher beings,
we've got dragons. Is there a hierarchy amongst them?
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I think that if you think of the Christ, so
humans we are being influenced by the Christ, the Christ consciousness.
And because that's love. You know, we're a planet of love.
We're to evolve love. And Jesus the Christ is about love.
(39:47):
So just like Jesus had twelve disciples and they all
have their own unique talents, I would say that, And
there's archangel Michael, who's the head of the blu ray,
But then there are other angels that would work beneath
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Michael on that same ray of energy. So I believe
that there is a hierarchy of consciousness that exists for
all beings, and that it is continuous, so that as
we rise to one level, we open up to other truths,
(40:34):
other knowledge that maybe was not available to us.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
That makes sense. So a hierarchy of consciousness, which is
different from what I was asking about, which is a
hierarchy of power. I mean, but it's a different kind
of power, isn't it. So they're all here, they're all
making themselves known and available to help humanity.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Why, because of it's the timing. It's the universal intelligence,
the creator of our particular galaxy. It's the universal timing
that we are at a stage. The Earth is at
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a stage, Humanity is at a stage in its evolution.
The Sun, our own solar system, which is a conscious being.
It's not only Mother Earth, it's this Sun is a
conscious being as well. That we are at a stage
where we can move to the next level of consciousness.
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And in this next level of consciousness, we will be
able to communicate with all these different beings because we're
rising into this astra level where they can talk to us.
So the dragons, for example, as I was being told
in the book The Dragons Tale, the dragons specialize because
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they're beings of earth, air, fire, and water. In other words,
they've got all elements. They can catalyze the Kundalini energy.
They can can't catalyze our Kundalini energy in us individually,
and the Kundalini energy of the planet. Before we went
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on air, we were talking about the dragon lines and
how we even talk about the dragon lines on the
Earth or the lay lines, and these are these are
the Kundalini energy lines of the Earth. And so the
dragons are here to help to help raise us. And
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humanity may say, my god, what a terrible mess we've
made of the environment, and we are totally responsible for
all the earthquakes and all the global warming at the volcados,
and you know we're terrible. Well, on what level this
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may be true that we have been irresponsible, but on
another level we are This is so far beyond us,
these cosmic changes that are catalyzing this for us, that
we are only this small part of what is happening.
(43:32):
And I believe what is going on, Sandy is that
as we rise to this next level of consciousness, humanity
has to redress and correct all of our erroneous thinking
and emotions, negative emotions and actions that have caused what
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we humans have done, and that individual you and I
have our own work to do looking at our own
erroneous actions in this life or perhaps in other lives.
I believe that this even comes to us and correct this.
So each of us has a responsibility because we're a
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cell in the collective of humanity, and humanity is a
cell in the body of the earth. So that is
our responsibility, and that's how each of us can help
with this evolution of consciousness right now. So that's what
we need to do.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
You know, there's one thing I'm curious about with regard
to dragons, and that is that if they are a
much higher consciousness, I mean, you know, the bill on
end or of everything is love. Yeah, if they are
a much higher consciousness, do they experience love? Because everything
we read about dragons is they're very egotistical.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
That's a great question, and I believe I think that
their main gift is wisdom. We also hear about dragons
that they're all knowing, and I believe their main gift
is wisdom and that in their wisdom, they are aligned
to universal consciousness. So even if you look at masters,
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if you talk about great masters, who we know. For example,
you will see that one quality either love, wisdom, or
will will be their main one. Now, to be full creators,
we need to have very much a working knowledge of
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all three. However, each of us has more of one
of these naturally than another. For example, I'm more wisdom
that I am love, and yet my whole life I
have worked on developing my love, and only in my
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later life, since you know, the last twenty four years
of founding our institute, have I had to work with will.
So if you look at yourself, which one is your strength?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
I think mine is probably a wisdom. It's that all will.
I mean, you know, I don't want to sound as
if I'm devoidable love. That's not true, but I do
know that. Yeah, I think it's will or wisdom.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Yeah, So you see, And it's not that we are
imperfect human beings. It's that we do value these other
qualities and that we are trying to grow them in ourselves,
but that we have our natural gift. And I believe
it's the same with masters. If you look at masters,
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you can see which ones are more love, which ones
are more wisdom, and solve dragons more wisdom, And then
of course great power, great power, and why would they
be working with humans on the earth? Well, what are
we a planet of love?
Speaker 4 (47:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (47:19):
So in working with us and in service to us,
they develop love.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Yes, because we tend to forget that it's a two
way street. They're getting something out of this too, they
are so you know, at this time of great, incredible
cosmic changes, I think, unlike anything perhaps that humanity and
this planet has ever seen before, what is it that
they most want us to take on board to do.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
The dragons or all of them?
Speaker 2 (47:53):
All of all of them?
Speaker 3 (47:55):
I think that we are meant to be humans, are
meant to be co creators. I believe that we are
God's in training. We are Gods in training, and we
may only be kindergarten level, but that we're meant to
become co creators with universal intelligence, with spirit, with God,
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whatever you want to call it. And to do this
we have to become conscious and so that we if
we just embrace, embrace this purpose and then make it
our primary goal to say, what in me is aligned
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to what I feel my soul is wanting, and what
in me is not yet quite in line and it
needs tweaking, and every day, every day tweak that every
day try to improve on that weakness. And this is
how we can sign up. But it's not to feel
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that we are inferior or that we are less than,
but to celebrate what we are and to tweak what
we're not. That we participate in this journey to consciousness
so that we can become what I believe humanity is,
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to become guardians of this wonderful planet and working with
elementals who are also on this wonderful planet. Yeah, what
do you think, Sandy? That is a question you asked me?
What if I ask you that question?
Speaker 2 (49:49):
I think that we are definitely on a journey back
to something. I often feel that to a degree, you know,
we kind of devote and now we're on the upward
path finding our way back to oneness, you know, and
(50:10):
you know, yeah, complete oneness. And I think that all
of the you know, the other beings are probably doing
the same, and some are further along than others. But
you know, I don't understand what else we would be doing.
You know, It's got to be the only thing worth doing.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
Yeah, Yes, And what if, as you mentioned earlier about
the hierarchies, so that if we're evolving and we're moving
up the rings of the hierarchies, and at one point
we unite with the one oneness. However, what if it
(50:50):
doesn't stop, Sandy. What if it's a continual evolution of
consciousness and as we you and I become more conscious,
we are also affecting the consciousness of our creator.
Speaker 4 (51:12):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Yeah, and it's a never ending journey. Yes, And so
then you have to sit and wonder how far can
it go to infinite beyond?
Speaker 4 (51:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Yeah, So in your International Institute for Transformation, is this
what you are teaching students?
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Yes, yeah, it's It's very funny. I always think it's
very funny that people often are attracted to be and
they think it's the Leprechaun lady, and we're going to
learn all about cute little fairies and how to work
with elementals. And then they meet me and they think
it's all about transformation, it's all about consciousness, and yeah, yeah,
(51:55):
it is all about transformation, and I love our element friends,
but it's about so much more.
Speaker 4 (52:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Yeah. On your website you offer a free spiritual Transformation
starter kit. What were they finding.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
There, Well, hopefully they'd find out what their gifts are
where they've got to work. Yeah, it's one of these
questionnaires that will help them assess their own spiritual intelligence.
Because we talked about mathematical intelligence or natural intelligence, you
could have spiritual intelligence. And then you can look at yeah,
(52:35):
and where do I need to focus? What do I
need to do more?
Speaker 2 (52:40):
Yeah, And you're starting up a new course in the
new year.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
I am. It's called Visit Magical Realms, and it starts
in January, and we are meeting once a month, once
in January, once in February, and once in March. And
we're studying three different books. We're studying these three different
books to help people move to hire frequencies, to help
(53:07):
them become more conscious. And the first book is called
Good Morning Henry, an in depth journey with the Body intelligence,
and this is about our soul and an awakening to
what our soul is saying we need to do next,
but in a very concrete, practical, physical way. And then
(53:29):
there's hybrids, So you think you're human, and this is
going to allow people to look at the twenty two
possible hybrids they could be and to find out which
one are they likely. And then there's the last book
is on the Dragons and what are the dragons trying
to tell us? And how can we work with them
(53:52):
in this energy? Yeah, wonderful line invictation.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
I love the name of that course.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
Visit Magical Realms.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
Yeah yeah, Who could resist? Who could resist?
Speaker 3 (54:03):
Who could resist?
Speaker 2 (54:04):
No one, no one, Tennis Helliwell, I'm afraid that we're
out of time, which is such a shame because I
could talk to you for hours. Thank you so much
for joining us today.
Speaker 3 (54:14):
It has been such a treat and I love having
conversations with you, Sandy.
Speaker 2 (54:19):
Thank you, Tennis. So if you want to know about
the Dragon's Tail, the Leprecorn story, manifest your soul's purpose,
decoding your destiny, you can go over to Tennis helliwell
dot com where you can learn all about these wonderful
titles and more about her study courses, chos to Sacred
Sites and everything else. Tennis Helliwell, that's it for this week.
(54:42):
I'm Sandy Sedgeber. I'll be back at the same time
next week with another edition of What Is going On
Till then It's goodbye for me and thanks again to
Tennis helliwell
Speaker 7 (55:48):
S
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