October 10, 2024 • 57 mins
Air Date - 10 October 2024
Four thousand years ago, women were seen as living representatives of the Great Mother, whose cyclical and potent energy gave birth to all existence. Today, this sacred awareness has been lost or distorted, causing a collective amnesia among women worldwide. However, one symbol of the Great Mother’s loving presence has remained unchanged for tens of thousands of years: the physical body.
We’ve all heard stories of spontaneous healings, radical remissions, and miracle recoveries from incurable cancers. But in truth, how many of us understand enough about the actual mechanics of miracles to believe that one could happen for us?
Joseph Selbie is a dedicated Kriya meditation and yoga teacher and an international speaker and conference leader who has helped hundreds of people awaken to their spiritual potential. A polymath and author whose books include The Physics of God and Break Through the Limits of the Brain, Joseph Selbie, joins Sandie this week to discuss his latest book, The Physics of Miraculous Healing: How Emotion, Mind, and Spirit Enable Unlimited Self-Healing, which not only presents solid evidence from the frontiers of modern physics to support that no condition or disease is incurable but also shares tried and tested practices & techniques to help you access your own potential for rapid and miraculous self-healing. https://josephselbie.com
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Four thousand years ago, women were seen as living representatives of the Great Mother, whose cyclical and potent energy gave birth to all existence. Today, this sacred awareness has been lost or distorted, causing a collective amnesia among women worldwide. However, one symbol of the Great Mother’s loving presence has remained unchanged for tens of thousands of years: the physical body.
We’ve all heard stories of spontaneous healings, radical remissions, and miracle recoveries from incurable cancers. But in truth, how many of us understand enough about the actual mechanics of miracles to believe that one could happen for us?
Joseph Selbie is a dedicated Kriya meditation and yoga teacher and an international speaker and conference leader who has helped hundreds of people awaken to their spiritual potential. A polymath and author whose books include The Physics of God and Break Through the Limits of the Brain, Joseph Selbie, joins Sandie this week to discuss his latest book, The Physics of Miraculous Healing: How Emotion, Mind, and Spirit Enable Unlimited Self-Healing, which not only presents solid evidence from the frontiers of modern physics to support that no condition or disease is incurable but also shares tried and tested practices & techniques to help you access your own potential for rapid and miraculous self-healing. https://josephselbie.com
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to what is going on for New Thought from
the Edge of Arm. Each week on home Time's flagship
radio show, veteran broadcaster, author, and media consultant Sandy Sedgeber
conducts thought provoking interviews with inspirational authors, artists, musicians, scientists, speakers,
and filmmakers who are working at the point where spirituality
(00:32):
and science meet consciousness, at the very edge of ALM.
Here is your host, Sandy Sedgeber.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello. We've all heard stories of spontaneous healings, radical remissions,
and miracle recoveries from incurable cancers. But in truth, how
many of us understand enough about the actual mechanics of
mimicals to believe that one could happen us. Joseph Selby
is a dedicated queer, meditation and yoga teacher, and international
(01:05):
speaker and conference leader. He's helped hundreds of people awaken
to their own spiritual potentials. A polymath and author whose
books include The Physics of God break Through The Limits
of the Brain, Joseph Selby joins me today to discuss
his latest book, The Physics of Miraculous Healing. How emotion,
(01:27):
mind and spirit enable unlimited self healing, which not only
presents solid evidence from the frontiers of modern physics to
support that no condition or disease is incurable, but also
shares tried and tested practices and techniques to help you
access your own potential for rapid and miraculous self healing.
(01:51):
Joseph Selby, Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Thanks for having me back. Pleasure to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Always a pleasure to speak with you. Joseph, So new
disease or condition is incurable. Many would say that's a
really bold statement to make, but you say, there is
solid evidence. Tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
There is an amazing amount of evidence that not only
is it possible, but people in the hundreds, maybe even
in the thousands every year are healing from what's considered
terminal cancer. And there are verified, scientifically verified experiences of
(02:38):
people having extraordinarily rapid healing. So one of my favorite
stories is about a woman named Barbara Kumiski, and this
story occurred in the sixties, I believe perhaps the seventies,
and Barbara, when she was sixteen, was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis,
(03:03):
and for the next sixteen years she gradually declined to
the point where when this story was told, she was
unable to walk unaided. She needed to be in a wheelchair,
She needed oxygen. She had lost tremendous amount of weight.
(03:24):
She was unable to use her hands. Her hands it
actually curled in towards her forearms, so she couldn't really
use them. Same with her feet. And while being visited
by friends, just in the middle of a conversation, she
heard a voice that said, get up and walk, and
(03:47):
she did. She stood up, and as she stood up,
her hands uncurled, the weight that she had lost returned,
her meat resumed their normal position. She was able to
walk unaided into the living room of her parents' home,
(04:10):
and literally within minutes, she was completely not only healed,
but restored to health, restored to her normal body functions.
The next day she saw her doctor who had consulted
with her for now almost twenty years, and he said,
(04:35):
there is no sign at all of multiple sclerosis anywhere
in your body at this point. Now. It's very interesting
that what goes with this is her description of what
she experienced, and particularly what she had been experiencing for
a while, was that even though she couldn't be serviceful,
(05:00):
people shouldn't be helpful. She couldn't be, as she put it,
functioning in the world as most people do. She had
found her way to be of service to people, to
be what she called a contributing member of the human
race by praying for people. And she spent hours every
(05:22):
day praying for people in need for various needs, you know,
health problems in their lives, not enough money, all the
things that you would expect people to ask for help
with in a prayerful way. And she was so deep
into it that she felt completely at peace with who
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she was, what her role in life was. She didn't
feel like she was a victim or suffering in any
way because she had found this way to serve and
to feel that sense of service. And she attributes that
sort of state of awareness, that sort of state of consciousness,
(06:09):
to being what drew this tremendous grace that healed her.
So there's a lot of things we can unpack in
that story, but one of them certainly is that she
yielded far, far more rapidly then modern medicine can account for,
(06:31):
and that not only was it rapid, but it was
recovery from a disease that is generally considered to be
eventually fatal. So there are other stories that I have
encountered and as oh, I can share more with you.
But if something like that can happen even once, and
(06:56):
it happens far more often than once, In fact, it
can happen even once, yes, we should try to understand
how it could possibly have happened, right, Yeah, And so
modern medicine doesn't have an answer. Yeah, because modern medicine
is based on science that is ironically perhaps for this
(07:20):
what we consider to be this leading edge, cutting edge science,
it's relying on fundamental principles that are over one hundred
years out of date.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yes, yeah, and they spend more time trying to disprove
than trying to prove. I mean, you know it's interest
in this particular story that you've just shared when you
compare it to Anita Mujohnny's story, where she was somebody
who lived in fear. You know, she wasn't at home
(07:52):
with herself because she had so much fear in her life.
She also had complete healing of to her near death
experience when she left her body and spoke to her father,
and the doctors immediately didn't believe it.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Hinder, yes, because it just doesn't fit their model. They
they literally don't think it's possible, So when it happens,
they look for any other explanation they can, and typically
it's put down to misdiagnosis. Yes, that the person really
(08:28):
didn't have that condition even though everybody, all the doctors
thought they did, and so they were able to have
this rapid healing because they were suffering from something else.
But there are so many instances where there's just no
question the diagnosis was originally accurate, and that their healing
(08:52):
was remarkable. Nonetheless, that you really have to you have
to question it.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
What made you want to write a book?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Well, I've always been fascinated by the kind of intersection
of science and spirituality, and a big aspect of spirituality
is tapping into more subtle powers, tapping into more subtle
abilities to keep ourselves healthy or to heal ourselves when
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we're ill. And so I wanted to see whether I
could find the science that would explain how these things
are happening, because they're obviously happening. And I think the
more people who can be open to this deeper way
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of healing, this deeper way of staying healthy, the better.
So if it takes understanding another kind of another level
of science in order for people to be open to it.
Then I think that's a needed service right now and
(10:12):
needed step for people to be able to take. And
my mind just kind of works with this combination of
science and spirituality because I've always been science oriented, but
I also have been a meditator for fifty years and
have taught experiential spirituality, So the two just work together
(10:34):
in my mind just all the time. I'm always thinking
about when I read an article about some new breakthrough,
I think, oh, well, how does that fit with another
and complementary picture of reality that we get from spiritual teachers.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And as you make clear in the book, modern physics,
not modern medicine, can explain extraordinary healing.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yes, modern physics really sort of was just a continuation
of the kind of line of discovery, the steps of
discovery that originally ushered in very important principles for modern medicine,
(11:20):
the essentially classical physics and how atoms and molecules work
and interact with each other. All that is real and important.
But that's where modern medicine stopped. But modern physics kept going,
and modern physics kept going into relativity. With Einstein's famous
(11:43):
equation equals MC squared, the underlying glimpse that gives us
into the nature of reality is there is no such
thing as matter. There really is no such thing as
atoms and molic Atoms and molecules are energies moving in
(12:05):
stable patterns that interact with each other. So this is
the first glimpse we get that we might be a
lot more mutable than we tend to think, because modern
science tends to think that atoms and molecules, short of
a nuclear explosion, will remain exactly as they are. They
(12:27):
will remain as these fixed objects. But already we have
that door opening through relativity that we too are made
of energy. And then quantum physics came along with a
mind bending next step that is that not only is
(12:54):
matter essentially energy, there are times when the energy and
matter behaves as waves of energy formless waves of energy,
and then it can revert back to behaving like atoms
and molecules, and this is known as the wave particle duality,
(13:15):
and that this Jeckyll Hide transformation happens all the time.
So not only are we made of energy, but it
could be quite possible. In fact, I believe it it's
most of the time the energies that make up our
(13:37):
physical body are behaving like waves, so they're even more
mutable because they are formless when they're behaving as waves.
And this is what really puts the you know, the
weird into quantum weirdness. Is this notion that matter has
this dual nature, that it goes back and forth between
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being wavelike and being stable patterns of energy. Then there's
another step out that physics took which is also confounding
to kind of our more material look at the world
around us, which is that when the energies that make
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up our body or anything for that matter, but when
the energies that make up our body behave like waves
of energy, it actually disappears from the physical universe and
is only present in what's called non locality, another realm,
(14:46):
and the two realms are interpenetratingly connected, but they obey
different laws. So this other realm, often known as nonlocality,
is where we get things like entanglement. That objects, no
matter how far apart they might be in the universe,
can be entangled and the affecting one instantly affects the other,
(15:11):
no matter how far apart they are. And this doesn't
make sense in the through the lens of local laws,
the laws that govern the physical universe. But they do
make sense when you consider that this other realm is
(15:32):
pure energy, that there is no form as we understand it,
there is no space, there is no time, and therefore
there's no distance. So everything in non locality, and this
is perhaps the most confounding, is connected. There's no distance
(15:52):
between anything in non locality. So anything that is changed
in non locality instantly affects everything else in non locality.
So anything that's changed in non locality that has to
do with our physical body is instantaneously changed and is
(16:13):
reflected in our physical body. So we are multi dimensional beings.
And we have yet another step, and I'll stop there
because there's a lot to a lot of ground uncovering.
But we also have a holographic nature. And in the
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kind of farthest frontier of physics, the discipline that is
in that farthest frontier known as m theory, a central
tenet of how they view reality is that the information,
(16:55):
the template, if you will, for everything that we are
familiar with in the physical universe actually exists in this
non local, non local energy realm, and that the physical
universe is a holographic projection of the holographic information and
(17:24):
energy that exists in non locality. So as hard as
this is to kind of take in, it is for
most people, and even for people who consider themselves to
be scientists, it's difficult to take in. But it is
a central tenet of M theory, and without it it's
(17:49):
bi central. What it means is if you take away
this notion of this holographic relationship between non locality and
the local physical universe, their picture of reality just breaks
down altogether. You can't have M theory without the holographic principle.
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So all of these things, if you look at them
just purely from the viewpoint of physics, tells us that
change could happen in the physical body very rapidly if
you change the holographic information, the hologram that is in
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non locality, the instant it changes, the physical body changes,
And this gives us the big clue, gives us the
big aha for how it is possible for Barbara Kumiski's
body to be completely transformed or Anita Moore Johnny to
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recover from cancer within minutes or even days. But both
of those are far faster rates than the more mechanical
view modern medicine has of how the body works.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Well's the interesting is that you say that often it's
belief that has something to do with these changes. But
that wasn't the case for Anita. If I actually believe
just the opposite. It wasn't the case because it was
unexpected for Barbara. And I can understand how belief is
(19:38):
because I've played with this and I've had things that
have certainly changed, you know, just because I put a
lot of attention and belief into it. But there's a
story that Yogananda tells in his autobiography about his sister
who was overweight and I don't remember the full store
(20:00):
why she was so unhappy, Whether it was affecting her
marriage prospects or what, I don't know. But he actually
changed her body overnight her that changed it. He did it.
So how is that possible when someone else is doing
it for you?
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Well, first, in that story, it's interesting, given the West's
predilection for beauty being associated with slenderness, she was actually
worried about the fact that she was thin. She wanted
to be more and curvy, because in that time in
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India that was considered more more beautiful, So just an
interesting sidelight on how societies value things. But what Yogananda
did was he worked with her for a while and
asked her to do very specific yoga practices, and then
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at some point he was able to say okay, essentially
to her, okay, you're ready. You're ready for this transformation.
And with you know, some degree of humorous interchange between siblings,
he said, well, just how big do you want to be?
You know? And she said it, you know, she threw
out something comical, I want to be like you. Essentially,
(21:28):
she wanted to have the same kind of proportions as
her brother, and he said, okay, you will have it.
So there were two things operating there. One is she
was receptive to him because she already knew that her
brother was an extraordinary person spiritually he knew, she knew
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he had worked other healings on other people, so she
was ready to believe with his help that she could
become this, this more beautiful version of herself. And he
was in fact a skilled healer because he knew he
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had to bring her to the point where she was
ready to fully believe it, to really completely embrace it.
And so at the right time, he said, now it's
going to happen, and it did.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
But that.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Change based on what we believe, is echoed in many
other ways. Besides that particular case, there is a story
that I share in the book about a man named
mister Wright. Mister Wright suffered from lymphoma, and as the
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story begins, he is in a hospital with weeks to live.
His doctor, doctor West, was taking care of him, but
pretty much everybody's opinion was that he didn't have much
longer to go. But mister Wright found a article in
(23:13):
a medical journal that said in the very hospital where
he was a patient, there was going to be a drug,
chemotherapy drug trialed for lymphoma, his particular condition, and he
(23:33):
got very excited by this possibility. He was a strong
believer in modern medicine, you know, the miracles of modern medicine,
so to speak, and he eventually convinced his doctor, doctor West,
to include him in the trial. Now, doctor West really
didn't want to include him because he was too far gone,
(23:56):
he didn't really fit the profile of people that wanted
the test, but he couldn't resist him. So I thought, okay,
what the heck, And on a Friday afternoon, he was
injected with the drug called crabiasin, and when the doctor
(24:17):
came back on Monday, mister Wright was up and around.
He had had orange sized tumors visible on his chest.
They were gone. His lungs had built been filled with
fluid that was gone. He was feeling energetic, and within
(24:39):
a couple of days he checked out of the hospital
and flew himself home in his own plane because he
was a pilot and seemingly was. But Alas Wright's belief
(25:03):
that brought him this cure was in the power of cribiason,
in the effectiveness of cbias in this particular drug. So
after he had been home and functioning again, he read
another article in another journal saying that crebiasin had been
proven to be ineffective, and he just crashed back within
(25:30):
a very very short of time, a short period of
time into the same condition. His tumors reappeared, his lungs
filled up with fluid once again. He was back in
the hospital and near death. Doctor West was fascinated by
this and decided to do something which is probably unethical,
(25:56):
but at the time perhaps wasn't as wasn't understood to
be unethical, But he just wanted to see what would
happen if he told mister Wright that there was a
new and improved version of Cribiason available, and that even
(26:18):
though the old original version had proven ineffective for most people,
there was a new version, and that if he was willing,
he would give him another injection of it when it
had arrived at the hospital. So mister Wright once again
got highly optimistic, full of enthusiasm, and with great, you know, solemnity,
(26:45):
doctor West injected him with the new and improved Cribiason.
But this time there wasn't even any drug. This was
purely a placebo. It was just a sailine fluid. But
mister Wright had the same reaction, which is within two
(27:06):
days all his humors disappeared, flewid in, the lungs disappeared,
energy came back, checked out of the hospital, went back home.
But alas for mister Wright, but kind of a cautionary
tale for all of us as to the importance of
what we believe in. He read yet another article that
(27:32):
said Kribiasin is no longer being prescribed, it has failed
all of its tests, and it is known to be
utterly ineffective. Mister Wright checked back into the hospital, same symptoms,
but this time he died two days later.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, you know the key.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
There was belief he believed in this drug, and when
he believed that the drug wasn't working, his illness came back.
When he believed it was working, his illness went away,
and then once again when he believed it wasn't working,
his illness came back. This was all in his deep
conviction that it could cure it. Now. A good friend
(28:18):
of mine once said that a lot of people will
remark about other people that, gosh, it sure seems like
their problem is all in their mind, And he said, well, yeah,
but that's the worst place for it to be. Our
beliefs are the most powerful thing that influence not only
(28:44):
our health, but pretty much everything else in our life
as well. So the beliefs are extraordinary powerful.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah. Yeah, we're going to take a short break now.
Before we do, I must just say, you know, this
whole thing about telling somebody that this is the new
and the improved version. We get it on our TV
screens all the time with the laundry detergent companies, and
people believe it and they go out by the new
super duper product, don't they.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, and it may have a real effect on them
because they may believe.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Does it have an effect on the laundry? That's what
I want?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Well, that kind of new and improved, that's different.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, Okay, we're going to take a short break now
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member of the Ananda Spiritual Community and author of the
Physics of God, Joseph Selby, and we're talking about his
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and spirit have enable unlimited self healing. We'll be back
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Speaker 2 (33:51):
Welcome back, Joseph Selby. Of course, some really concrete proof
of the power of belief, The power of the mind
comes through studies with people with.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yes, it's an extraordinary demonstration of the power of belief,
because as each personality comes in or departs, the body
essentially that is being inhabited by that particular personality will
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conform to their deeply held beliefs about their appearance, about
their general level of health, and about their abilities. So
extraordinary can that be? That there are some personalities who
have different eye colors from others. So one personality out
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of let's say ten, will have blue eyes while the
others will have green. So that's extraordin ordinary. That means
that billions upon billions of atoms and molecules had to
change instantaneously in order for those eyes to change color.
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It's no small thing. The most extraordinary story I know
about the power of multiple personalities to change the bodies
about a German woman who, when she came to get
therapy for the multiple personality disorder, was completely blind. But
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during the course of her therapy, where she was able
to open up and accept this concept of her having
these different facets of herself, one by one, nine out
of ten of her personalities began to be able to
(35:59):
see to varying degrees. Now that's extraordinary enough, but think
about the scenario that she's constantly changing personalities. So each
personality that has a different level of sight immediately instantly
has that different level of sight when they shift to
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a new personality, and one of them never did be
able to see. One of those ten personalities was completely blind.
And they tested her when she was in this personality
with what's called visually evoked potential. You know, they put
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the usual EG kind of sensor net on her head
and then they shine a really bright light in her
eyes and there was absolutely no activity anywhere in her
brain acknowledging that, like including in the visual cortex, which
is the back of her brain. But yet the next
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personality in did react. And the only way this is
possible is if billions of neurons changed between those two
personalities and within moments they changed.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
So I was going to say, so, if it's belief,
were they actually you know, measuring her brain waves as
she changed personality, because in one personality, she's obviously got
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no belief or knowledge of the other personality, right, so.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
It's not that she's believing before she switches. So something
is triggering something else is triggering those changes. It's not believed.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I think in the case of multiple personalities, where these
kind of rapid changes are evident are because each personality
has its own convictions about who and what they are
and what they can do and what they look like.
So those convictions are really are reflected in their hologram.
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Taking a step back to the physics we were talking
about earlier, when the person when the personality is holding
those beliefs, it shapes their hologram, It shapes their subtle
energy body, and when it shapes it to something different,
then the physical body immediately reflects them.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
So it's a split second, a split second, you know.
When I was studying hypnotherapy and NLP, my tutor used
to tell us about people who you could hypnotize them
and tell them that a feather on their arm was
a cigarette lit cigarette and they would end up with burn.
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And somebody who wanted their eyesight to be improved, he
took them back to a time when their eyesight was good,
brought them forward in time with the eye sight and
that remained. Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah. There are ways to change people's beliefs. There are,
I think more importantly, ways that we can change our
own beliefs. Not that I'm saying you shouldn't go to healers,
shouldn't go to people who can help you, But you
are your biggest helper. You are the one who has
developed the current set of beliefs that you have, and
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you can methodically and deliberately change those beliefs by embracing
various techniques, by embracing from, by embracing meditation, where you experientially.
And that's the key with the regression is he took
her back or him back? I'm not sure which was
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there in your story two a time when that person
believed that their site was good and so they were
experiencing that, and then that experience was brought forward. That
belief and experience go together. So the best way to
change belief is to experience the things we want to believe,
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and that will automatically change our convictions. So meditating, you
know a lot of people say, well, meditating, yeah, hear it.
You know, will make you feel more relaxed or calmer.
But really meditation is a methodical doorway for you to
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experience and influence any aspdeffect of yourself, from emotions, to beliefs,
to your conviction about who you are, whether you're a
soul or a physical being. All of those direct experiences
that you open up two with meditation can change your beliefs.
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And that's why in the long run meditation is so powerful.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Well, you know, I have practiced some of this and
I have created an incredible healing of an injury. What
I can't do much as I would like to, is
you know, kind of be thirty five again.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
To some people. You know, some beliefs you hold more deeply,
more inco eightly than others. They really came in when
you were, and they were reinforced for every moment of
the rest of your life. And it is theoretically possible
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to change those kinds of beliefs. But if you just
are practical about how much time you have and how
much will you have and what and really examine what
would help you the most in your life, being thirty
five may not be that right. Being happy, being healthy,
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being emotionally harmonious, now, those things are worth changing because
they stay with you whether you're five or ninety five.
So those things are possible, but I don't really recommend
that you set your mind on trying to do those
Knowing their possible should give you encouragement to think you
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can do the other but focus on what you can reach.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I think that sometimes we can believe that others can
do it, but we don't believe we can do it,
and that's a belief really worth working now.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yes, and we generally do it incrementally. I mean near
death experience can create profound change in the way people
view reality and themselves. But unless when you meditate, you
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can completely leave the body and experience the astral regions
in the heavens, you're unlikely to be able to engineer
that same level, that same dramatic amount of change. So
what I say to people is is except that it's
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going to be incremental, but be methodical about it, be
deliberate about it, that you really can change it over time.
I've meditated for fifty years and it's given me a
very encouraging perspective on how much change can actually come
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to me over the years. That is born of direct
experience of spirit, is born of connecting to deeper beliefs
or experiencing more harmonious emotions. But all of it took
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time and should be realistic in your expectations.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, what about emotion, You know, because we hear over
and over again that's in manifest Emotion is very important,
you know, the saying thoughts are electric, emotions are magnetic.
You've got to have the emotion in order to attract.
How important is emotion in beliefs?
Speaker 3 (45:18):
I would say that your beliefs support your emotions. Some
emotional experience probably can create beliefs, so there's an interchange
going on between the two. But I would say the
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most important thing in terms of health about your emotions
is to recognize that staying in positive you know, pleasant harmonious.
Energized emotions can do more to make you healthy than
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just about any other thing except belief, because your emotions
are essentially movements of life force. So when you have
a you know, we notice our emotions mostly when they
change right, will suddenly feel oh, you know, a burst
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of happiness, or something will strike us to change how
we're feeling, and at that moment, we'll notice the movement,
will notice, will notice that something else is flowing in
our body, because it actually really is our life force
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is flowing, but it's flowing in our hologram. It's flowing
in our energy body. And when that moves in certain
ways within our energy body, what we feel in our
physical body as a sense of expansion or contraction, a
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rise or a descent, and those those four general experiences
combine into what we then later define as you know, well,
I felt threatened, or I felt safe, or I felt
you know, on top of the world, or I felt
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I was in the dumps. You know, all of these
ways in which we describe those we're really describing the
way that movement of subtle energy of life force in
the body makes us feel. So when it moves, it
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also affects the life processes that are going on in
every cell in the body. So when we have negative emotions,
they actually get in the way of the life processes
that should be happening to keep us healthy. And if
we hold a negative emotion habitually for long periods of time,
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and these different emotions tend to move in the same place.
They might be at the heart, they might be in
the stomach, and we might feel them in the lower back.
You know, we feel our emotions everywhere, not just the heart,
but if they're constantly occurring in a particular part of
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the body, if we feel constricted by our life were
you know, we might feel it in our lungs as
much as we feel it in our heart. And if
we're feeling it in our lungs, then over time, because
we're introducing a literally a discordant vibration into that part
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of our body, it prevents ourselves from being efficient makers
of proteins, of eliminating things from our cells that they
need to get rid of, bringing in fresh matter that
they need to build new proteins, and eventually they will
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break down. And that breaking down is what we notice
as cancer or diabetes or hypertension, or any number of
illnesses that you can name. They all begin with what.
To medicine is the mysterious breakdown of cellular functions. But
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to a metaphysician, to a spiritual doctor who could and
often do, see your emotions, there's no mystery at all.
They can see that your emotions are, you know, coming
up to works. They are preventing your body from Uh
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it's it's optimum behavior. So we're looking I'm looking at it.
I'm sharing it with you. From the perspective of negative emotions. Yeah,
but positive emotions are even more important. The key to
health is really to have harmonious, upward moving, relaxing emotions,
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because then they allow your body's life processes to be
optimized and everything functions well. In his book Bernie Siegel's
book Love, Medicine and Miracles, one of my time favorite books,
he says, quite simply, happy people don't get sick.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yeah, yeah, I ain't that the truth.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
So I mean you may get you may get a cold,
you may have this and that, But the number of
people who are truly happy who get serious illness is
really rare, really few.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
So meditation is a central theme in all of your books,
what it is. You know how to do it, all
the benefits of it. You've taught it for many years,
you've practiced it for many years. But there are people
who find it no matter how many times they try,
they find it very hard to do. But you have
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a methodical process that you use and you teach people.
Could you share that with us?
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Sure? Well. First, what I always recommend to people is
use a technique. I teach a technique called Hangsa, which
comes from the path that I'm on of Jugananda's teachings.
But it's by far, in a way, not the only
technique you can use. But the reason I recommend a
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technique is that it's it's hard to get your mind
to slow down and to get your physical body to
sit still so that you can have the kind of
pleasant experiences and even extraordinary experiences that are possible in meditation.
So technique is really helpful. I won't try to teach
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it in the time we have, but you can find
it on my website, you can find it in all
my books, or if you already have a technique that
you know, include that in what you are trying to do.
But the next thing I try to tell people is
realize that your life is already full of habits, and
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those habits have been strengthened and supported by neural circuits
that have actually formed in your brain that will automatically
trigger when anything associated to that particular habit either comes
into your mind as a thought or somebody's comment, or
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the time of day, whatever. There are many, many triggers.
So we tend to eat lunch the same time. Because
we're triggered eat lunch at the same time, our digestive
juices start flowing, et cetera, et cetera. And this is
a good thing. Many habits are good things. But you
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have to be realistic about the fact that if you
want to meditate, say in the morning or in the
evening or before you go to bed, you already have
habits that occupy those time slots if you will, and
that with an initial burst of enthusiasm, you may succeed
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in meditating five mornings in a row or two weeks
in a row. But if you kind of let down
your guard and relax your will, those habits that have
been there all along will start to reassert themselves, and
they often feel really good. It's like coming back and
spending time with an old friend. Right, Oh, I forgot
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how much I liked, you know, having my toast at
this time of the day. Whatever it is. So just
realize that establishing a meditation habit is going to require determination.
But be as methodical about using that determination as you can.
Figure out what time in the day you actually are
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going to do it. What are you competing with? So
if you do have something you normally do at that time,
are you going to shift it to another time, are
you going to modify it? Are you going to shorten it,
You're going to get up earlier, whatever it is. Realize
that you've got to make a space in your life
for this to happen over and over and over. That
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if you stick with it for weeks to months, you're
also going to create a neural circuit that supports meditation.
I liken it too. Beginning to meditate is like starting
on a bicycle riding up to the top of a plateau.
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You have to work at it, but when you get
to the plateau, it's much easier going. So the first weeks,
first months perhaps of establishing a meditation habit will take
some effort, but once you establish the habit, then it's
far more easy to meditate regularly. So just think with
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it and don't expect that you're instantly going to be
able to sit still and control your thoughts. It's kind
of like if you take up tennis, you're not going
to play like raf and a doll.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
I'm gonna have to much, Joseph, because we really are
almost out of time. So I want to say thank
you for joining us today. Thank you for this book.
It truly is and you know, it really did an
awful lot for me, and I'm sure it will do
a lot for others who read it too, So thank you,
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Thank you. So. The Physics of Miraculous Healing, How Emotion, Mind,
and Spirit enable Unlimited self Healing by Joseph Selby is
published by Tristream and Imprint of Protectors Press, and is
available in paperback, kindle, and audible audiobook. So. For more
information about Joseph's books, is events, articles, and resources for meditation,
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you can visit his website Joseph Selby s E. Lbie
dot com. That brings us to the end of this
week's show. I'm Sandy Sedgebier. I'll be back at the
same time next week with another edition of What Is
Going On Till Then it's goodbye for me. Thank you, Joseph,
thank you,
Welcome to what is going on for New Thought from
the Edge of Arm. Each week on home Time's flagship
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conducts thought provoking interviews with inspirational authors, artists, musicians, scientists, speakers,
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and science meet consciousness, at the very edge of ALM.
Here is your host, Sandy Sedgeber.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello. We've all heard stories of spontaneous healings, radical remissions,
and miracle recoveries from incurable cancers. But in truth, how
many of us understand enough about the actual mechanics of
mimicals to believe that one could happen us. Joseph Selby
is a dedicated queer, meditation and yoga teacher, and international
(01:05):
speaker and conference leader. He's helped hundreds of people awaken
to their own spiritual potentials. A polymath and author whose
books include The Physics of God break Through The Limits
of the Brain, Joseph Selby joins me today to discuss
his latest book, The Physics of Miraculous Healing. How emotion,
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mind and spirit enable unlimited self healing, which not only
presents solid evidence from the frontiers of modern physics to
support that no condition or disease is incurable, but also
shares tried and tested practices and techniques to help you
access your own potential for rapid and miraculous self healing.
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Joseph Selby, Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Thanks for having me back. Pleasure to be here.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Always a pleasure to speak with you. Joseph, So new
disease or condition is incurable. Many would say that's a
really bold statement to make, but you say, there is
solid evidence. Tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
There is an amazing amount of evidence that not only
is it possible, but people in the hundreds, maybe even
in the thousands every year are healing from what's considered
terminal cancer. And there are verified, scientifically verified experiences of
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people having extraordinarily rapid healing. So one of my favorite
stories is about a woman named Barbara Kumiski, and this
story occurred in the sixties, I believe perhaps the seventies,
and Barbara, when she was sixteen, was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis,
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and for the next sixteen years she gradually declined to
the point where when this story was told, she was
unable to walk unaided. She needed to be in a wheelchair,
She needed oxygen. She had lost tremendous amount of weight.
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She was unable to use her hands. Her hands it
actually curled in towards her forearms, so she couldn't really
use them. Same with her feet. And while being visited
by friends, just in the middle of a conversation, she
heard a voice that said, get up and walk, and
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she did. She stood up, and as she stood up,
her hands uncurled, the weight that she had lost returned,
her meat resumed their normal position. She was able to
walk unaided into the living room of her parents' home,
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and literally within minutes, she was completely not only healed,
but restored to health, restored to her normal body functions.
The next day she saw her doctor who had consulted
with her for now almost twenty years, and he said,
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there is no sign at all of multiple sclerosis anywhere
in your body at this point. Now. It's very interesting
that what goes with this is her description of what
she experienced, and particularly what she had been experiencing for
a while, was that even though she couldn't be serviceful,
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people shouldn't be helpful. She couldn't be, as she put it,
functioning in the world as most people do. She had
found her way to be of service to people, to
be what she called a contributing member of the human
race by praying for people. And she spent hours every
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day praying for people in need for various needs, you know,
health problems in their lives, not enough money, all the
things that you would expect people to ask for help
with in a prayerful way. And she was so deep
into it that she felt completely at peace with who
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she was, what her role in life was. She didn't
feel like she was a victim or suffering in any
way because she had found this way to serve and
to feel that sense of service. And she attributes that
sort of state of awareness, that sort of state of consciousness,
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to being what drew this tremendous grace that healed her.
So there's a lot of things we can unpack in
that story, but one of them certainly is that she
yielded far, far more rapidly then modern medicine can account for,
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and that not only was it rapid, but it was
recovery from a disease that is generally considered to be
eventually fatal. So there are other stories that I have
encountered and as oh, I can share more with you.
But if something like that can happen even once, and
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it happens far more often than once, In fact, it
can happen even once, yes, we should try to understand
how it could possibly have happened, right, Yeah, And so
modern medicine doesn't have an answer. Yeah, because modern medicine
is based on science that is ironically perhaps for this
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what we consider to be this leading edge, cutting edge science,
it's relying on fundamental principles that are over one hundred
years out of date.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yes, yeah, and they spend more time trying to disprove
than trying to prove. I mean, you know it's interest
in this particular story that you've just shared when you
compare it to Anita Mujohnny's story, where she was somebody
who lived in fear. You know, she wasn't at home
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with herself because she had so much fear in her life.
She also had complete healing of to her near death
experience when she left her body and spoke to her father,
and the doctors immediately didn't believe it.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Hinder, yes, because it just doesn't fit their model. They
they literally don't think it's possible, So when it happens,
they look for any other explanation they can, and typically
it's put down to misdiagnosis. Yes, that the person really
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didn't have that condition even though everybody, all the doctors
thought they did, and so they were able to have
this rapid healing because they were suffering from something else.
But there are so many instances where there's just no
question the diagnosis was originally accurate, and that their healing
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was remarkable. Nonetheless, that you really have to you have
to question it.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
What made you want to write a book?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Well, I've always been fascinated by the kind of intersection
of science and spirituality, and a big aspect of spirituality
is tapping into more subtle powers, tapping into more subtle
abilities to keep ourselves healthy or to heal ourselves when
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we're ill. And so I wanted to see whether I
could find the science that would explain how these things
are happening, because they're obviously happening. And I think the
more people who can be open to this deeper way
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of healing, this deeper way of staying healthy, the better.
So if it takes understanding another kind of another level
of science in order for people to be open to it.
Then I think that's a needed service right now and
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needed step for people to be able to take. And
my mind just kind of works with this combination of
science and spirituality because I've always been science oriented, but
I also have been a meditator for fifty years and
have taught experiential spirituality, So the two just work together
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in my mind just all the time. I'm always thinking
about when I read an article about some new breakthrough,
I think, oh, well, how does that fit with another
and complementary picture of reality that we get from spiritual teachers.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And as you make clear in the book, modern physics,
not modern medicine, can explain extraordinary healing.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yes, modern physics really sort of was just a continuation
of the kind of line of discovery, the steps of
discovery that originally ushered in very important principles for modern medicine,
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the essentially classical physics and how atoms and molecules work
and interact with each other. All that is real and important.
But that's where modern medicine stopped. But modern physics kept going,
and modern physics kept going into relativity. With Einstein's famous
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equation equals MC squared, the underlying glimpse that gives us
into the nature of reality is there is no such
thing as matter. There really is no such thing as
atoms and molic Atoms and molecules are energies moving in
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stable patterns that interact with each other. So this is
the first glimpse we get that we might be a
lot more mutable than we tend to think, because modern
science tends to think that atoms and molecules, short of
a nuclear explosion, will remain exactly as they are. They
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will remain as these fixed objects. But already we have
that door opening through relativity that we too are made
of energy. And then quantum physics came along with a
mind bending next step that is that not only is
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matter essentially energy, there are times when the energy and
matter behaves as waves of energy formless waves of energy,
and then it can revert back to behaving like atoms
and molecules, and this is known as the wave particle duality,
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and that this Jeckyll Hide transformation happens all the time.
So not only are we made of energy, but it
could be quite possible. In fact, I believe it it's
most of the time the energies that make up our
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physical body are behaving like waves, so they're even more
mutable because they are formless when they're behaving as waves.
And this is what really puts the you know, the
weird into quantum weirdness. Is this notion that matter has
this dual nature, that it goes back and forth between
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being wavelike and being stable patterns of energy. Then there's
another step out that physics took which is also confounding
to kind of our more material look at the world
around us, which is that when the energies that make
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up our body or anything for that matter, but when
the energies that make up our body behave like waves
of energy, it actually disappears from the physical universe and
is only present in what's called non locality, another realm,
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and the two realms are interpenetratingly connected, but they obey
different laws. So this other realm, often known as nonlocality,
is where we get things like entanglement. That objects, no
matter how far apart they might be in the universe,
can be entangled and the affecting one instantly affects the other,
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no matter how far apart they are. And this doesn't
make sense in the through the lens of local laws,
the laws that govern the physical universe. But they do
make sense when you consider that this other realm is
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pure energy, that there is no form as we understand it,
there is no space, there is no time, and therefore
there's no distance. So everything in non locality, and this
is perhaps the most confounding, is connected. There's no distance
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between anything in non locality. So anything that is changed
in non locality instantly affects everything else in non locality.
So anything that's changed in non locality that has to
do with our physical body is instantaneously changed and is
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reflected in our physical body. So we are multi dimensional beings.
And we have yet another step, and I'll stop there
because there's a lot to a lot of ground uncovering.
But we also have a holographic nature. And in the
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kind of farthest frontier of physics, the discipline that is
in that farthest frontier known as m theory, a central
tenet of how they view reality is that the information,
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the template, if you will, for everything that we are
familiar with in the physical universe actually exists in this
non local, non local energy realm, and that the physical
universe is a holographic projection of the holographic information and
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energy that exists in non locality. So as hard as
this is to kind of take in, it is for
most people, and even for people who consider themselves to
be scientists, it's difficult to take in. But it is
a central tenet of M theory, and without it it's
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bi central. What it means is if you take away
this notion of this holographic relationship between non locality and
the local physical universe, their picture of reality just breaks
down altogether. You can't have M theory without the holographic principle.
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So all of these things, if you look at them
just purely from the viewpoint of physics, tells us that
change could happen in the physical body very rapidly if
you change the holographic information, the hologram that is in
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non locality, the instant it changes, the physical body changes,
And this gives us the big clue, gives us the
big aha for how it is possible for Barbara Kumiski's
body to be completely transformed or Anita Moore Johnny to
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recover from cancer within minutes or even days. But both
of those are far faster rates than the more mechanical
view modern medicine has of how the body works.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Well's the interesting is that you say that often it's
belief that has something to do with these changes. But
that wasn't the case for Anita. If I actually believe
just the opposite. It wasn't the case because it was
unexpected for Barbara. And I can understand how belief is
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because I've played with this and I've had things that
have certainly changed, you know, just because I put a
lot of attention and belief into it. But there's a
story that Yogananda tells in his autobiography about his sister
who was overweight and I don't remember the full store
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why she was so unhappy, Whether it was affecting her
marriage prospects or what, I don't know. But he actually
changed her body overnight her that changed it. He did it.
So how is that possible when someone else is doing
it for you?
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Well, first, in that story, it's interesting, given the West's
predilection for beauty being associated with slenderness, she was actually
worried about the fact that she was thin. She wanted
to be more and curvy, because in that time in
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India that was considered more more beautiful, So just an
interesting sidelight on how societies value things. But what Yogananda
did was he worked with her for a while and
asked her to do very specific yoga practices, and then
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at some point he was able to say okay, essentially
to her, okay, you're ready. You're ready for this transformation.
And with you know, some degree of humorous interchange between siblings,
he said, well, just how big do you want to be?
You know? And she said it, you know, she threw
out something comical, I want to be like you. Essentially,
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she wanted to have the same kind of proportions as
her brother, and he said, okay, you will have it.
So there were two things operating there. One is she
was receptive to him because she already knew that her
brother was an extraordinary person spiritually he knew, she knew
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he had worked other healings on other people, so she
was ready to believe with his help that she could
become this, this more beautiful version of herself. And he
was in fact a skilled healer because he knew he
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had to bring her to the point where she was
ready to fully believe it, to really completely embrace it.
And so at the right time, he said, now it's
going to happen, and it did.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
But that.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Change based on what we believe, is echoed in many
other ways. Besides that particular case, there is a story
that I share in the book about a man named
mister Wright. Mister Wright suffered from lymphoma, and as the
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story begins, he is in a hospital with weeks to live.
His doctor, doctor West, was taking care of him, but
pretty much everybody's opinion was that he didn't have much
longer to go. But mister Wright found a article in
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a medical journal that said in the very hospital where
he was a patient, there was going to be a drug,
chemotherapy drug trialed for lymphoma, his particular condition, and he
(23:33):
got very excited by this possibility. He was a strong
believer in modern medicine, you know, the miracles of modern medicine,
so to speak, and he eventually convinced his doctor, doctor West,
to include him in the trial. Now, doctor West really
didn't want to include him because he was too far gone,
(23:56):
he didn't really fit the profile of people that wanted
the test, but he couldn't resist him. So I thought, okay,
what the heck, And on a Friday afternoon, he was
injected with the drug called crabiasin, and when the doctor
(24:17):
came back on Monday, mister Wright was up and around.
He had had orange sized tumors visible on his chest.
They were gone. His lungs had built been filled with
fluid that was gone. He was feeling energetic, and within
(24:39):
a couple of days he checked out of the hospital
and flew himself home in his own plane because he
was a pilot and seemingly was. But Alas Wright's belief
(25:03):
that brought him this cure was in the power of cribiason,
in the effectiveness of cbias in this particular drug. So
after he had been home and functioning again, he read
another article in another journal saying that crebiasin had been
proven to be ineffective, and he just crashed back within
(25:30):
a very very short of time, a short period of
time into the same condition. His tumors reappeared, his lungs
filled up with fluid once again. He was back in
the hospital and near death. Doctor West was fascinated by
this and decided to do something which is probably unethical,
(25:56):
but at the time perhaps wasn't as wasn't understood to
be unethical, But he just wanted to see what would
happen if he told mister Wright that there was a
new and improved version of Cribiason available, and that even
(26:18):
though the old original version had proven ineffective for most people,
there was a new version, and that if he was willing,
he would give him another injection of it when it
had arrived at the hospital. So mister Wright once again
got highly optimistic, full of enthusiasm, and with great, you know, solemnity,
(26:45):
doctor West injected him with the new and improved Cribiason.
But this time there wasn't even any drug. This was
purely a placebo. It was just a sailine fluid. But
mister Wright had the same reaction, which is within two
(27:06):
days all his humors disappeared, flewid in, the lungs disappeared,
energy came back, checked out of the hospital, went back home.
But alas for mister Wright, but kind of a cautionary
tale for all of us as to the importance of
what we believe in. He read yet another article that
(27:32):
said Kribiasin is no longer being prescribed, it has failed
all of its tests, and it is known to be
utterly ineffective. Mister Wright checked back into the hospital, same symptoms,
but this time he died two days later.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yeah, you know the key.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
There was belief he believed in this drug, and when
he believed that the drug wasn't working, his illness came back.
When he believed it was working, his illness went away,
and then once again when he believed it wasn't working,
his illness came back. This was all in his deep
conviction that it could cure it. Now. A good friend
(28:18):
of mine once said that a lot of people will
remark about other people that, gosh, it sure seems like
their problem is all in their mind, And he said, well, yeah,
but that's the worst place for it to be. Our
beliefs are the most powerful thing that influence not only
(28:44):
our health, but pretty much everything else in our life
as well. So the beliefs are extraordinary powerful.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah. Yeah, we're going to take a short break now.
Before we do, I must just say, you know, this
whole thing about telling somebody that this is the new
and the improved version. We get it on our TV
screens all the time with the laundry detergent companies, and
people believe it and they go out by the new
super duper product, don't they.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, and it may have a real effect on them
because they may believe.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Does it have an effect on the laundry? That's what
I want?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Well, that kind of new and improved, that's different.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, Okay, we're going to take a short break now
you're listening to what is going On? I'm Sandy Sedgebyer
and my guest today is speaker teacher, conference presenter, founding
member of the Ananda Spiritual Community and author of the
Physics of God, Joseph Selby, and we're talking about his
latest book, The Physics of Miraculous Healing, How emotion, mind
(29:51):
and spirit have enable unlimited self healing. We'll be back
with morph from Joseph Selby after this break.
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Speaker 2 (33:51):
Welcome back, Joseph Selby. Of course, some really concrete proof
of the power of belief, The power of the mind
comes through studies with people with.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yes, it's an extraordinary demonstration of the power of belief,
because as each personality comes in or departs, the body
essentially that is being inhabited by that particular personality will
(34:29):
conform to their deeply held beliefs about their appearance, about
their general level of health, and about their abilities. So
extraordinary can that be? That there are some personalities who
have different eye colors from others. So one personality out
(34:52):
of let's say ten, will have blue eyes while the
others will have green. So that's extraordin ordinary. That means
that billions upon billions of atoms and molecules had to
change instantaneously in order for those eyes to change color.
(35:14):
It's no small thing. The most extraordinary story I know
about the power of multiple personalities to change the bodies
about a German woman who, when she came to get
therapy for the multiple personality disorder, was completely blind. But
(35:36):
during the course of her therapy, where she was able
to open up and accept this concept of her having
these different facets of herself, one by one, nine out
of ten of her personalities began to be able to
(35:59):
see to varying degrees. Now that's extraordinary enough, but think
about the scenario that she's constantly changing personalities. So each
personality that has a different level of sight immediately instantly
has that different level of sight when they shift to
(36:22):
a new personality, and one of them never did be
able to see. One of those ten personalities was completely blind.
And they tested her when she was in this personality
with what's called visually evoked potential. You know, they put
(36:43):
the usual EG kind of sensor net on her head
and then they shine a really bright light in her
eyes and there was absolutely no activity anywhere in her
brain acknowledging that, like including in the visual cortex, which
is the back of her brain. But yet the next
(37:06):
personality in did react. And the only way this is
possible is if billions of neurons changed between those two
personalities and within moments they changed.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
So I was going to say, so, if it's belief,
were they actually you know, measuring her brain waves as
she changed personality, because in one personality, she's obviously got
(37:45):
no belief or knowledge of the other personality, right, so.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
It's not that she's believing before she switches. So something
is triggering something else is triggering those changes. It's not believed.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
I think in the case of multiple personalities, where these
kind of rapid changes are evident are because each personality
has its own convictions about who and what they are
and what they can do and what they look like.
So those convictions are really are reflected in their hologram.
(38:28):
Taking a step back to the physics we were talking
about earlier, when the person when the personality is holding
those beliefs, it shapes their hologram, It shapes their subtle
energy body, and when it shapes it to something different,
then the physical body immediately reflects them.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
So it's a split second, a split second, you know.
When I was studying hypnotherapy and NLP, my tutor used
to tell us about people who you could hypnotize them
and tell them that a feather on their arm was
a cigarette lit cigarette and they would end up with burn.
(39:12):
And somebody who wanted their eyesight to be improved, he
took them back to a time when their eyesight was good,
brought them forward in time with the eye sight and
that remained. Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah. There are ways to change people's beliefs. There are,
I think more importantly, ways that we can change our
own beliefs. Not that I'm saying you shouldn't go to healers,
shouldn't go to people who can help you, But you
are your biggest helper. You are the one who has
developed the current set of beliefs that you have, and
(39:51):
you can methodically and deliberately change those beliefs by embracing
various techniques, by embracing from, by embracing meditation, where you experientially.
And that's the key with the regression is he took
her back or him back? I'm not sure which was
(40:13):
there in your story two a time when that person
believed that their site was good and so they were
experiencing that, and then that experience was brought forward. That
belief and experience go together. So the best way to
change belief is to experience the things we want to believe,
(40:36):
and that will automatically change our convictions. So meditating, you
know a lot of people say, well, meditating, yeah, hear it.
You know, will make you feel more relaxed or calmer.
But really meditation is a methodical doorway for you to
(40:57):
experience and influence any aspdeffect of yourself, from emotions, to beliefs,
to your conviction about who you are, whether you're a
soul or a physical being. All of those direct experiences
that you open up two with meditation can change your beliefs.
(41:20):
And that's why in the long run meditation is so powerful.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Well, you know, I have practiced some of this and
I have created an incredible healing of an injury. What
I can't do much as I would like to, is
you know, kind of be thirty five again.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
To some people. You know, some beliefs you hold more deeply,
more inco eightly than others. They really came in when
you were, and they were reinforced for every moment of
the rest of your life. And it is theoretically possible
(42:10):
to change those kinds of beliefs. But if you just
are practical about how much time you have and how
much will you have and what and really examine what
would help you the most in your life, being thirty
five may not be that right. Being happy, being healthy,
(42:36):
being emotionally harmonious, now, those things are worth changing because
they stay with you whether you're five or ninety five.
So those things are possible, but I don't really recommend
that you set your mind on trying to do those
Knowing their possible should give you encouragement to think you
(43:00):
can do the other but focus on what you can reach.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I think that sometimes we can believe that others can
do it, but we don't believe we can do it,
and that's a belief really worth working now.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yes, and we generally do it incrementally. I mean near
death experience can create profound change in the way people
view reality and themselves. But unless when you meditate, you
(43:41):
can completely leave the body and experience the astral regions
in the heavens, you're unlikely to be able to engineer
that same level, that same dramatic amount of change. So
what I say to people is is except that it's
(44:01):
going to be incremental, but be methodical about it, be
deliberate about it, that you really can change it over time.
I've meditated for fifty years and it's given me a
very encouraging perspective on how much change can actually come
(44:24):
to me over the years. That is born of direct
experience of spirit, is born of connecting to deeper beliefs
or experiencing more harmonious emotions. But all of it took
(44:47):
time and should be realistic in your expectations.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, what about emotion, You know, because we hear over
and over again that's in manifest Emotion is very important,
you know, the saying thoughts are electric, emotions are magnetic.
You've got to have the emotion in order to attract.
How important is emotion in beliefs?
Speaker 3 (45:18):
I would say that your beliefs support your emotions. Some
emotional experience probably can create beliefs, so there's an interchange
going on between the two. But I would say the
(45:40):
most important thing in terms of health about your emotions
is to recognize that staying in positive you know, pleasant harmonious.
Energized emotions can do more to make you healthy than
(46:03):
just about any other thing except belief, because your emotions
are essentially movements of life force. So when you have
a you know, we notice our emotions mostly when they
change right, will suddenly feel oh, you know, a burst
(46:24):
of happiness, or something will strike us to change how
we're feeling, and at that moment, we'll notice the movement,
will notice, will notice that something else is flowing in
our body, because it actually really is our life force
(46:44):
is flowing, but it's flowing in our hologram. It's flowing
in our energy body. And when that moves in certain
ways within our energy body, what we feel in our
physical body as a sense of expansion or contraction, a
(47:05):
rise or a descent, and those those four general experiences
combine into what we then later define as you know, well,
I felt threatened, or I felt safe, or I felt
you know, on top of the world, or I felt
(47:25):
I was in the dumps. You know, all of these
ways in which we describe those we're really describing the
way that movement of subtle energy of life force in
the body makes us feel. So when it moves, it
(47:47):
also affects the life processes that are going on in
every cell in the body. So when we have negative emotions,
they actually get in the way of the life processes
that should be happening to keep us healthy. And if
we hold a negative emotion habitually for long periods of time,
(48:11):
and these different emotions tend to move in the same place.
They might be at the heart, they might be in
the stomach, and we might feel them in the lower back.
You know, we feel our emotions everywhere, not just the heart,
but if they're constantly occurring in a particular part of
(48:31):
the body, if we feel constricted by our life were
you know, we might feel it in our lungs as
much as we feel it in our heart. And if
we're feeling it in our lungs, then over time, because
we're introducing a literally a discordant vibration into that part
(48:55):
of our body, it prevents ourselves from being efficient makers
of proteins, of eliminating things from our cells that they
need to get rid of, bringing in fresh matter that
they need to build new proteins, and eventually they will
(49:18):
break down. And that breaking down is what we notice
as cancer or diabetes or hypertension, or any number of
illnesses that you can name. They all begin with what.
To medicine is the mysterious breakdown of cellular functions. But
(49:43):
to a metaphysician, to a spiritual doctor who could and
often do, see your emotions, there's no mystery at all.
They can see that your emotions are, you know, coming
up to works. They are preventing your body from Uh
(50:05):
it's it's optimum behavior. So we're looking I'm looking at it.
I'm sharing it with you. From the perspective of negative emotions. Yeah,
but positive emotions are even more important. The key to
health is really to have harmonious, upward moving, relaxing emotions,
(50:29):
because then they allow your body's life processes to be
optimized and everything functions well. In his book Bernie Siegel's
book Love, Medicine and Miracles, one of my time favorite books,
he says, quite simply, happy people don't get sick.
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yeah, yeah, I ain't that the truth.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
So I mean you may get you may get a cold,
you may have this and that, But the number of
people who are truly happy who get serious illness is
really rare, really few.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
So meditation is a central theme in all of your books,
what it is. You know how to do it, all
the benefits of it. You've taught it for many years,
you've practiced it for many years. But there are people
who find it no matter how many times they try,
they find it very hard to do. But you have
(51:32):
a methodical process that you use and you teach people.
Could you share that with us?
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Sure? Well. First, what I always recommend to people is
use a technique. I teach a technique called Hangsa, which
comes from the path that I'm on of Jugananda's teachings.
But it's by far, in a way, not the only
technique you can use. But the reason I recommend a
(52:01):
technique is that it's it's hard to get your mind
to slow down and to get your physical body to
sit still so that you can have the kind of
pleasant experiences and even extraordinary experiences that are possible in meditation.
So technique is really helpful. I won't try to teach
(52:23):
it in the time we have, but you can find
it on my website, you can find it in all
my books, or if you already have a technique that
you know, include that in what you are trying to do.
But the next thing I try to tell people is
realize that your life is already full of habits, and
(52:46):
those habits have been strengthened and supported by neural circuits
that have actually formed in your brain that will automatically
trigger when anything associated to that particular habit either comes
into your mind as a thought or somebody's comment, or
(53:10):
the time of day, whatever. There are many, many triggers.
So we tend to eat lunch the same time. Because
we're triggered eat lunch at the same time, our digestive
juices start flowing, et cetera, et cetera. And this is
a good thing. Many habits are good things. But you
(53:31):
have to be realistic about the fact that if you
want to meditate, say in the morning or in the
evening or before you go to bed, you already have
habits that occupy those time slots if you will, and
that with an initial burst of enthusiasm, you may succeed
(53:53):
in meditating five mornings in a row or two weeks
in a row. But if you kind of let down
your guard and relax your will, those habits that have
been there all along will start to reassert themselves, and
they often feel really good. It's like coming back and
spending time with an old friend. Right, Oh, I forgot
(54:15):
how much I liked, you know, having my toast at
this time of the day. Whatever it is. So just
realize that establishing a meditation habit is going to require determination.
But be as methodical about using that determination as you can.
Figure out what time in the day you actually are
(54:37):
going to do it. What are you competing with? So
if you do have something you normally do at that time,
are you going to shift it to another time, are
you going to modify it? Are you going to shorten it,
You're going to get up earlier, whatever it is. Realize
that you've got to make a space in your life
for this to happen over and over and over. That
(55:01):
if you stick with it for weeks to months, you're
also going to create a neural circuit that supports meditation.
I liken it too. Beginning to meditate is like starting
on a bicycle riding up to the top of a plateau.
(55:23):
You have to work at it, but when you get
to the plateau, it's much easier going. So the first weeks,
first months perhaps of establishing a meditation habit will take
some effort, but once you establish the habit, then it's
far more easy to meditate regularly. So just think with
(55:46):
it and don't expect that you're instantly going to be
able to sit still and control your thoughts. It's kind
of like if you take up tennis, you're not going
to play like raf and a doll.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
I'm gonna have to much, Joseph, because we really are
almost out of time. So I want to say thank
you for joining us today. Thank you for this book.
It truly is and you know, it really did an
awful lot for me, and I'm sure it will do
a lot for others who read it too, So thank you,
(56:19):
Thank you. So. The Physics of Miraculous Healing, How Emotion, Mind,
and Spirit enable Unlimited self Healing by Joseph Selby is
published by Tristream and Imprint of Protectors Press, and is
available in paperback, kindle, and audible audiobook. So. For more
information about Joseph's books, is events, articles, and resources for meditation,
(56:43):
you can visit his website Joseph Selby s E. Lbie
dot com. That brings us to the end of this
week's show. I'm Sandy Sedgebier. I'll be back at the
same time next week with another edition of What Is
Going On Till Then it's goodbye for me. Thank you, Joseph,
thank you,
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