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October 18, 2024 56 mins
Air Date - 17 October 2024

According to best-selling author Penny Peirce, each of us has a personal vibration that accurately communicates who we are to the world and helps shape our reality. A simple shift in frequency can change a mood of depression to one of peace, anger to stillness, and fear to enthusiasm. Learning to manage our own energy state can put us on track with our destiny. We have a choice about the way we feel and what our life can be. By learning to use frequency principles—methods based on the way energy actually functions—we can keep our energy level high and productive, receive subtle information directly from the environment via “empathic resonance,” and quickly free ourselves from negative or low vibrations. Join Sandie and Penney Peirce this week and discover how to use intuition and sensitivity techniques to access the knowledge contained in your body and energy field to improve troublesome relationships and materialize and dematerialize the “stuff” of your life.

Penny Peirce is a gifted clairvoyant-empath and visionary and one of the pioneers in the intuition development movement. She is a popular author, lecturer, counselor, and trainer specializing in intuition development, inner energy dynamics, expanded perception, personal transformation, and dream work. She has worked in the US, Japan, Europe, South America, and South Africa since 1977, coaching business and government leaders, psychologists, scientists, celebrities, and those on a spiritual path about the hidden dynamics of what makes for true success. Her books include The Intuitive Way, Be the Dreamer Not the Dream, Transparency, and Leap of Perception, to name just a few.

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to what is going on for new thought from
the Edge of Arm. Each week on home Time's flagship
radio show, veteran broadcaster, author, and media consultant Sandy Sedgeber
conducts thought provoking interviews with inspirational authors, artists, musicians, scientists, speakers,
and filmmakers who are working at the point where spirituality

(00:32):
and science meet consciousness, at the very edge of Arm.
Here is your host, Sandy Sedgeber.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello, good Welcome. As the frequency of the planet continues
to rise beyond all previous measurements, our personal vibrations, our identities,
and reality are constantly adapting to keep pace. Fifteen years ago,
best sellin author Penny Pierce preempted this transformation in her
award winning book Frequency, The Power of Personal Vibration, in

(01:06):
which she described our move from the information age to
the intuition age.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
In a newly released fifteenth anniversary edition of Frequency, Penny
Peers shares valuable information, insights and advice on how to
embody and navigate the important consciousness developments that these accelerating
frequency dynamics have catalyzed. Penny Piers Welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Thank you. I'm so happy to be back with you.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
It's good to have you back, Penny. It's always good
to talk with you. So when Frequency was first launched
in two thousand and nine, the idea of living in
a vibrational world and consciously using and raising our own
personal frequency was on the leading age of a questing wave.
Since then, Frequency has become an award winning classic on

(01:59):
the subject. So why a fifteenth anniversary edition has so
much changed?

Speaker 3 (02:07):
It really has. First of all, I think it's coming
in waves, you know, not only the intensity of the frequency.
Waves are coming in again and again and again and
raising us, stimulating us, to challenging us even to try
to adapt our bodies and our consciousness to match this

(02:28):
new level on the planet. But also the understanding of
frequency is going up and becoming more inclusive the higher
the frequency goes, if that makes sense. So in all
of these years since then, my understanding of how it
works has increased exponentially. And then there are symptoms of

(02:50):
the frequency change. In the beginning, it's kind of uncomfortable,
But as you get going with it and understand it,
you start to have many openings and many more progressions
of your perception, let's say, and your sensitivity that actually
starts to make life really easy and things happen much

(03:13):
more quickly, and you're not stuck stuck so much as
we need.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
To be when when these waves come and as we
begin to adapt to you know, we're impacted by all
of this, but we don't necessarily always know it. We
just think, you know, life.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Is getting more.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
How do people like you who have this ability to
see so much more, how do you actually know how
we're being changed?

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Well? When it's still is the same. For me, like
when a wave hits, I forget that it's that's what
it is, and I think something's wrong in my life,
or I'm I'm just like a zombie and I can't think,
and I have to lay down in the afternoon and
take a nap, and I go, I don't know why
I can't sleep at night, but I'm sleeping in the afternoon,

(04:06):
you know, or what's going on with my brain? And
then I realize, oh, wait a minute, Yes, it's another
one of these. And often your body needs to stop.
It's like an animal heels, they just get quiet. And
I think we need to get our left brain out
of the way, which creates so much commotion and all

(04:27):
that logic and shoulds and rules and all of that.
You know, it's just quiet down, relax, let your body
do its work, because it does know how to adapt
to different frequencies very quickly. But it's the mind, I
think that gets in the way sometimes.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, we do, forget, don't we. I mean, so many
of my friends, you know, text me and say, oh,
I've had a terrible day, and the next day, oh,
I'm on top of the world, and they don't know
what the difference is because nothing has.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Changed, and it's true. And then part of you adapt
to the frequency and you don't even know really that's happened.
It's like you said, you come out the next I'm fine,
you know. But then with me, anyway, a sudden insight
starts to come in, or a vision during the day
where like I was just sitting on my sofa and

(05:18):
I saw my life review as though I had died,
and I saw my entire life like a film strip,
and all the events and all the people and everything
was like in miniature, and I understood how perfectly engineered
it all was. And I was like so fascinated with this.
And then I said, my voice said to me and said, well,

(05:41):
I'm not that interested in it. Really, Okay, that's the story.
It's a great story, and I can use it and
have fun with it, but it's not who I am.
And I could I suddenly just let go of my
previous identity, which is a big symptom of these higher

(06:03):
frequency shifts, and I didn't care. It's like I'm me
right now in this white hole, pouring through in the moment,
you know, and and I'm discovering what I'm discovering, and
that's surprise is kind of the fun thing. Now, that's
a really.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Really important point you made there, you know, because we
are so used to being categorized, and especially by family.
You know, this is the way you always were, this
is the way you're always going to be. You know.
I'm still that clumsy, living five year old that everybody
used to plat on the head. You know. People don't
let you grow up, they don't let you change, They

(06:42):
don't give you room for you know, evolving, and we
don't give ourselves room. You know. We still think that
was me, but that's not me anymore, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
And it was me making having a consciousness. I could
see I had this same consciousness throughout, but I had
a certain kind of mind that it had to filter through,
you know. But still the timeline was so interesting is
that it just kept opening experiences like a pathway, and
each one was the perfect sequence to give me the

(07:18):
next one, which is the next piece of data. I
kind of needed to get my confidence or get my
interests and take the next steps and do what I
needed to do and overcome I guess karma or whatever.
But now the frequency is so high that it's a

(07:40):
strange thing. It's like we're beyond the frequency of karma.
We don't need to remind ourselves of what we have
to do to be balanced anymore because we're already beyond it.
And then we see it and then we're are doing it.
You know. It's like it's not necessary, and it's so
interesting when that far away and you go, wait a minute,

(08:01):
I'm really free. Now what do you want to create
in your life? Oh? Look at what could you know?
Go overwhelming?

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Then the mind goes, oh yeah, no, I'm not very
good at creating, or at least who I used to
be wasn't very good.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
I've got another chance now, right, and those things fade
all that doubt. That's the left brain or protective mechanisms
in the brain to keep you out of trouble supposedly,
but really out of fun, out of surprise and joy.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
So these are the consciousness developments that you write about.
You know that the accelerating frequency dynamics have catalyzed. Are
there anymore that we need to know?

Speaker 3 (08:46):
Well, I've just added, you know. In the fifteenth anniversary edition,
I added a whole new chapter at the end about
what's happening now, and I also added three new appendices
where I took all the exercises from the book, put
them all in one place so you could find them.
And then at the end of every chapter in Frequency,
there's a frequency message which I wrote from an altered state,

(09:10):
and they're very inspiring. So I put all those together,
and then I pulled sixty quotes out of the book,
which are you could meditate on or you could use
it as an oracle or something, you know, So it's
quite expanded. In fact, can I show it. I've just
had a copy. I don't know if it's backwards. It
probably is here, but it is backward wow mirrored. So

(09:38):
and the book came out really beautifully, so I'm really
pleased with it. So it's been out a little while now.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, well I've read the original one, I think, you know,
back in two thousand and nine, and it made a
massive impact on me. It answered so many questions. When
I first heard about the fifteenth you know anniversary, I thought, well,
you know, how can you improve on that? But having
read it, you can improve on that. Tell us, you know,

(10:07):
you vote in the intro to the new edition that
some missing pieces of the big picture and making their
way into our consciousness. Now this is what those missing
pieces are.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah. Well, part of it, I think is the acceleration
causes your body to vibrate faster and also lighten up,
and of course a lot of us are feeling that
in terms of dietary changes or things where we just
don't want to feel so heavy, and it's affecting our emotions.

(10:40):
They're lightening up, they're moving faster. So a lot of
the old subconscious stuff that was stored away in the
invisible realms are now surfacing because that slow vibration doesn't
exist anymore, and the subconscious is popping up like popcorn,
you know, So it's coming up into the conscious mind

(11:01):
and that's why a lot of us are feeling so
many fears, and we're getting so polarized because us versus
them and the inside outside, and this whole idea of
separation is being highlighted. And we are very clear, especially
those on a spiritual path, that it's important to clear
ourselves now of blockages of old fears, of old misperceptions,

(11:28):
and part of the higher frequency allows us to do
that more easily, effortlessly. It's almost like I put a
shawl on today, but it's almost like you take one
of those just throw it off. You know, It's like
I don't have that anymore and I don't need that anymore,
and when you really mean it, it's gone. Yeah, you
don't have to go to therapy for ten years.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
You know. I shook it assault, you know, I mean
based on the concept that our outer world reflects that
in the world. You know, I'm just thinking as you
were talking about getting lighter, you know, this thing that's
happening out there in the world, with these drugs that
are making you know, a zen peg and all of

(12:11):
these things that people are taking to lose weight. You know,
the British National Health Service have just announced that they're
going to give it to people who are obese and
out of work, you know, because of the you know,
cide effects of being obese. They're going to give it
to them on a spiritual level, on a higher level.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Is that you know?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Could we look at that and say, yeah, we're all
being lightened up in different ways.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
And although I'm not a big fan of taking drugs
to do it, it might be a kind of shortcut
to the consciousness needed to stay this way, you know, naturally,
and to eat less and to eat more simple but
clearer kinds of foods. I'm not a big strict food person,

(13:02):
but it's fun, you know. Last year, I think I
told you I had an open heart surgery that came
on overnight, like I didn't know. I didn't have any
warnings and any pain, but the michel valve blew open.
So I was in ICU for three weeks and it
was it was a weird experience. I felt like I

(13:25):
was taking a shortcut to higher consciousness, like I had
been focusing a lot on I really want to be loving,
one hundred percent loving. I'm tired of having deprivation thinking
and being so frugal or whatever, just yes butts all
the time. And so I made a vow. I made
a choice to myself, this is what I'm doing, And

(13:48):
three days later I was in cardiac icu with opening
my heart. You know, It's like I had to laugh
in a way, but I felt lucky, like I knew
I'm not dying. Yeah, So people have different kinds of
experiences that it would be parallel to this. I suppose
that are kind of sometimes I call these wedge experiences,

(14:12):
where you know where they opened something up so that
you can get the rest of the light pouring in,
and then you digest it later and it comes in
in dribs and drabs so that you can integrate it
and insights. And that's what part of this high frequency
is all about. That we're getting these insights and I
can give you more of them as we go along.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
But in the first edition, you said that we needed
new methods for navigating our move from the information age,
you know, to the intuition age. What useful new methods
have you seen come on stream since then?

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Well, I think there's so many people doing various kinds
of meditations and working with music and you know, binaural
beats and all those kinds of things that help put
you into a calm, clear, centered state. Basically, that's what
you need. You need to be able to feel what
I call your home frequency, you know, my original tone,

(15:17):
what I feel like when I'm really feeling great about
myself and in you know, peace and joy, you know,
and those are really powerful states. They're not just words.
And so recenter into that. And I think it's important
to make a choice about the state of being that
you choose to live in. Not this. Oh well, maybe

(15:39):
I'll feel good one day and not another, and this
has power to make me feel bad, and I'm worried
about the elections or the politics or whatever, all the
things that are happening in current events. Choose your state now.
That will evolve. But meanwhile, it's a field of energy
of a certain kind of frequency that you're living within,

(16:01):
you know, and you sent her back into that again
and again, and you have it all through your body.
You can do chakra meditations, you can do you know,
clean outs. I have a diamond light body meditation that
works really well, where you imagine your diamond light self
stepping in from behind and matching up with every part
of your body and raising it into its kind of pristine,

(16:23):
fearless you know, pure happy state, and then you think
from there, you know, you proceed from there. So there
are a lot of methods and I think, you know,
like there's this what do they call it earthing? Earthing?
There was grounding, now it's earthing. It's a lot of

(16:47):
new terminologies for the same old thing is just be connected,
be connected to the earth, and be connected with the soul. Now,
part of this high frequency that's coming in is that
you're starting to raise up your consciousness so much body emotion,
mind that you realize, hey, I am the soul. I'm

(17:12):
here Now, I don't have a soul out there somewhere
like a balloon, you know, it's it's I'm it. Then
don't I just want to radiate out? And then when
you just choose that, then you notice all the places
where it gets blocked. Oh now I got I said
I want to radiate out, But everything that isn't radiating

(17:35):
gets up with my consciousness and now I get to
clear that so that I have another opening for more
self to radiate through. And the more you do that,
the happier you get, and then the more synchronicities you get.
And you can just pretty much ask or say what
you'd like, and the whole collective of beings, you know,

(17:58):
including I'm sure trees and bugs and animals all help
you align to that and help things happen so that
you can do it cooperative.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
As you're talking, you're reminding me, I mean, we tend
to think of everything as being disconnected. You know, Oh,
this is happening now, that's a trend over there. You know,
grounding is now called earth And I'm thinking about the
renaissance of psychedelics and you think, oh, that's just another
but actually, when you look at the bigger pattern, that

(18:32):
too is connected. It's part of the tools kits that
we're being shown that can help us.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Yes, well, in my early years I did quite a
bit of that, but never to get high. I always
had this sense of it as a vision quest, and
I didn't even know there was such a thing as
a vision quest. But I would go off by myself
and i'd draw or i'd do something. But I would
find myself teaching myself in those experiences, and it was

(19:04):
very important. It brought back a lot of my knowledge
very quickly. And then you get to a point where
you don't really need it because you could just like
shift yourself right into the states.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
What about You know, there's an awful lot of people.
It is a chaotic time, and you know, we're kind
of like pimballs in a pinball machine. We're being bounced
around all over the place on a daily basis. A
lot of people are responding to that by withdrawing and
you know, trying to protect themselves also against you know,
the increase in energy that they sense but don't know

(19:42):
what it is.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
That's right, that's right, and it is chaotic. That's why
you have to have your home frequency and be very
clear what that feels like for your your best state.
And it's different for everybody. I mean some people feel
like playing with puppies in some people. Mine sometimes felt
like a pink ang or sweater or a melting butter

(20:05):
or something, you know something. It's a texture and equality.
And then you put that all through your field. You
have your big sphere, your ball, and that's your aura
or your personal reality. And that's why I said, choose
your state and fill your whole sphere with that state,

(20:26):
live in it, practice it, saturate with it, and then
all the chaos that's going on you can allow it
to go on within your sphere. But it's you can
allow all kinds of frequencies in your sphere, but your personal,
personal active tracts of this grid that you live in

(20:46):
is the way you want it to be, and then
you allow all that disharmony to exist within your own harmony.
And that way, I think we have a thing now,
especially with the frequencies. I'm calling it kinesthetic telepathy. It's
like you can radiate feeling states, tactile states of being,

(21:11):
what something feels like, like diamond light, and you can
send that or just fill, not even send because that's
too linear. You just turn the light switch on and
your field is full of that, and all these other
people who are in chaos are in it and they
can pick it up if they want to. Now it's
really there for them to feel. And I think that's

(21:32):
the way we're going to be doing healing a lot
in the near future, because part of the acceleration is
that linear thinking, which we're so accustomed to and we
think is normal, is too slow beginning middle end. You know,
inside outside it's just not that way anymore. There's no

(21:57):
split between you and the outside world. It's all one.
There's no lines between things. There's no other side. It's
all here now at different frequencies. So you change your
frequency like you do on a radio dial, and you're there.
You want to talk to your mom who's dead. I

(22:17):
do that all the time, Just go to that frequency. Yeah,
and it's right there. Nothing's gone, And it's amazing that
there's room. There's no finiteness. Here's there's room for everything.
Every thought, every past life or future life, or moment

(22:38):
that you've ever had, it's all there and it's existing.
You know, if you go into a past moment, you're
in the moment. It's there, You're in it. I've experienced that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
One thing that you said in the original edition, you
talked about nine stages is in a process of evolution,
and we go through that individually and collectively. How many
of those stages would you say that we've moved through.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
I kind of condensed now my mind. It's at the
first part of it is that we're affected by the
higher energies and we start yearning for something higher, like
we go down a spiritual path, or we read a
lot of books or something, and as we do that,
then our frequency increases. Then the subconscious releases and now
we get the reactionary thing. Oh no, no, and to

(23:38):
see this doesn't work, you know, and we pull back in.
But then that doesn't work, so then we open again.
And so this clearing of the subconscious goes through lots
of you know, rotations, and then you start to feel
more oneness. You start to feel the sense of I

(24:03):
don't know, I guess I call it conscious communion. As
you get going and you it's almost like the losses
in identity come in here in a way like well,
I'm not just that anymore, you know. And then, like
I've noticed my cosmology changes every few years, I have
an explanation for the way I think things work, you know,

(24:26):
and then another piece fits in and I go, oh,
well now it's like this, and now it's like this,
so that fluidity features in. But I think a lot
of people are at the stage where the subconscious stuff
is coming up, and they're resisting it. They don't want
to change. They're very attached to old beliefs and credos

(24:51):
and ways that their family has been forever, you know,
and what's out there beyond what you know is scary.
And that's one of the big problems I see today
is that there's a contraction, a kind of calcification. But

(25:13):
there's still people like say one thing somehow and then
they hear it and then they click start to go, well,
maybe there is something better than this. May it does
work differently, So people have always a way to start
waking up. But there are other people who've gone way
beyond that and are now pretty comfortable with the fluidity

(25:35):
of letting go of things and finding new things that
are very fun and exciting even more of yourself. It's like, wow,
I knew that, you know, like I could do this.
And so I think there's a lot of people who
are really pretty getting into some of the higher levels
of perception and consciousness. And I don't know a percentage,

(25:59):
but I feel like the energy of the acceleration is
not going to stop.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Wouldn't it be nice if those that have reached that
place could somehow transmit that because we see a lot
a lot of the opposite of that in the world
right now, you know, with lots of wars, lots of hate,
lots of you know, wouldn't it be great if we
could transmit that.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Well, that's what I was saying. The tactle, you know,
telepathy is the sense that when you stay in your
state and you expand your ball, that bubble around you,
that's your personal sphere. But if you open it and
expand it out and include and include and include and

(26:45):
include more and more, even the whole world and all
the beings, you know, the high beings and the confused
beings and whatever, and just like snap your fingers and say,
this is the tone. This is the state I'm putting
through the whole thing, and I'm holding it in love.

(27:06):
I'm just holding that state and it is going to
go into and through everyone and somehow they will know
it and recognize it if they're ready. But I'm not
adding fear and worry so that they pick up on
that and say, see I was right. You know, I'm

(27:26):
just not adding that into the field anymore.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah. Yeah, more of us need to get together and
do that. We're going to take a short break now
you're listening to what is going on. I'm Sandy Sedgebert
and my guest today is author, clairvoyant, EmPATH and pioneer
in the intuition development movement, Penny Piers, and we're talking
about her best selling book Frequency, The Power of Personal Vibration,

(27:51):
which has just been released in an expanded fifteenth anniversary edition.
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is made up of these three levels, Shadows, gifts and Cities,
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(30:33):
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illuminations along the journey. And the more we get stuck

(30:54):
into the journey, the more illumination comes to us, because
the more we release the light from in these codes
inside our DNA, so all those revelations are inside us.
So the contemplative way is the inner way.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
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That's one in five daughters, sons, neighbors, and classmates who
don't know where their next meal is coming from. Yet
billions of pounds of good food go to waste every year.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
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Speaker 5 (31:32):
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Speaker 2 (31:50):
Welcome back Penny Pierce. In the last chapter of your book,
it's called accelerating towards Transparency. How do you define transparency?
Is it enlightened?

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Well, I wrote a whole book on it, so that's
the next book right before this one. To me, it
is a state where you clear yourself of fear and interferences,
of the not love stuff, and you let yourself be
so trusting and open that you, the soul who are

(32:25):
present making this body right now, can just flow through.
And then you the individual sense of soul is you
realize you're connected to this collective sense of soul. We're
all beings, the core heart of all all living things,
even rocks. I think, you know, are you know a

(32:46):
collective consciousness? And then that becomes the self you know?
I call it now the we. You know the we,
and I am in the Wei, and it's here, I'm
always in it, and we are doing the work. We
are writing the books, we are doing whatever we can
do to help people wake up. And so I think

(33:10):
that transparency then is that state where you don't have
to hide anymore, there's nothing to protect you allow yourself
to be very visible and exposed, and the fear goes away.
With that, you can not only let people see through

(33:32):
to you and who you really are, but you can
see through them, You can see through anything. It's like
transparency becomes a way of being that there's nothing hidden
and all knowledge is available. And it's like our minds
have gotten used to not paying attention to the all,

(33:53):
and so we think we're partial. And when you can
start to see through into the entirety, you realize how
unlimited you are. And then you realize you look into
other people and you find the same kind of vibe
in their soul, and now you start to get this
communion experience. You look into a flower, you look into
a dog, you look into a tree, a butterfly, and

(34:17):
it's the same life force, and you start to feel
like you belong and it really belong. And it's even
hard to be separate. It's like an act of willpower
to keep yourself out of, you know, the belonging, and
yet you're not suffocated by it. You have your own

(34:39):
point of view here. That's the fun experiment of being
in three dimensions, you know. So to me, the transparency
is like an amazing state. No lies. Why would you
Why would you?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, yeah, you said in the first book, you mention
differences between men's form of enlightenment and women's form. Has
anything changed in that regard over the past fifteen.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Years, Well, it depends. I think sometimes men have a
more difficult time opening into both left and right brain
perception and working with them together, because they tend to
be very left brain and then they have to make
a conscious choice to move to the right brain to

(35:31):
open intuition and then to let them merge and do
that kind of figure eight blending. But they do. You know,
it's a little bit longer process. Women are already interconnected
and they have a hard time separating out from the environment,
and you know, it's very much more merged as a
kind of consciousness. So I think that I think I

(35:59):
said the book that I thought men's form of enlightenment
often had to do with not trusting the feminine of
like going off and being a monk in a cave
and going into higher states of consciousness like ai, you know,
and all these things that are non personal, non physical,

(36:20):
more rational. Whereas women are already merged into the earth,
you know, they they're in the sea of the ocean
of emotion and physical sensation. And the thought goes along
with that, with women, they feel think, you know, so

(36:41):
they're already very much connected to the spiritual realms. Naturally,
it makes it a little easier to integrate things. And
so women's form is to bring spirituality into the physical,
not to go out to get it, but to bring
it in and merge it. And we already have it

(37:02):
within ourselves, where men it takes the longer to realize
they could do that, you know, instead of seeking outside. Yeah,
I had seen it before, but I think a lot
more people in general are just waking up.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yes, yeah, they are. The phrase new human you know,
we've been hearing that over the last decade, you know,
everywhere everywhere. What does that mean to you? And what
are some of the things that you think we may
experience as the new human being?

Speaker 3 (37:38):
So this is where we're going with the high frequencies
and the integration of those frequencies and the clearing of
the old habits and beliefs. You know, those are structures,
and we don't need so much structure. We're fluid, we're open,
Things pass through us. We're poorous, and yet we have

(38:00):
choice in the moment. That's why they say free will,
but I'm calling it choice, you know, right, now I'm
paying attention to this. Now, I'm interested in this. Now
I'm thinking about that, and we can bring things out
of the whole imaginal realm and the unified field by
pinpoint focus. That's why I love Terence McKenna's quote about

(38:25):
basically he said, the function of the left brain is
to interrupt the right brain, because otherwise we would know nothing,
because we would just be everything. But so anyway, I
just drifted a bit there, But I think the new
human is becoming normalized with all these new abilities that

(38:50):
aren't really new at all, they are natural. And part
of that is, you know, letting go of the identity,
the small identity to achieve the life large identity. And
so I'm a me and a we. I can shift
my mind around and I can do what I want
with it, you know, but I am really at court
a collective, and so the identity shifts are really important.

(39:18):
I feel like we're almost like integrating all of our
past lives and parallel lives. We have other you know,
we have other beings alive now who come from our
same soul group that are you know, like could be me,
my other, myself, you know. And then I think there's
a growing ability now to have supernatural skills which are

(39:42):
now natural. I'm seeing a lot more of instantaneous healings
of things where it's like I had an old, older
car and I kept thinking I should upgrade this car,
and I get but it's such a good car and
it really works fine, and I really like it. And

(40:04):
then I had a guy pull out of a thing
and whack me and wreck my car. I was fine,
but the car had was totaled and I and I
was like, Okay, I guess I need to upgrade my car.
You know, like I didn't really listen, but those things
become like you listen, you hear, you notice what you're noticing.

(40:26):
You see the reason why the great flow, which to
me is the collective consciousness, is bringing you your next
sequence of things just right. Notice, notice, notice, notice, use it,
and nothing's wrong. You know, it's all evolutionary. Everything is evolutionary.

(40:48):
Even my dull naps on the couch, you know, like
those were useful, they were needed. So so part of
it is that that sense of trust, radical trust in yourself,
in the we, the connectedness, the fact that the spiritual
realm is here with you now it's not on the

(41:10):
other side of a line. This nature is like so
empowering that you need something you think about it, it comes.
It's kind of like fast because things are coming into
the present moment now or the present moment is encompassing.
It's becoming so vast that it's encompassing the past and

(41:32):
the future.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
So this is an example of what you talk about.
You know, what reality might look like when we you know,
blend the third and the fourth dimensions. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Yeah, And as you do increase your ability to bring
dimensions into your consciousness, your body needs to adjust to
those frequencies too. So we do we just and you
don't have to make yourself do it. You just feel
like going out and breathing good air or walking or

(42:04):
eating less or I'm sleeping more or less or whatever.
You just do what you feel like doing without analyzing it.
There's often a kind of a movement where you feel
like you need to not make everything meaningful, which is
one of my you know things, I have to dive

(42:25):
down into everything, you know to translate it. But there's
just experiential truth, a direct knowing that happens. Yeah, And
I'm talking to other people who are having experiences of
like shifting timelines, Like they thought it tooks this much

(42:48):
time to get to the grocery store, and but they're
they there somehow, or they got there and they don't
remember how that happened. And it's very odd, you know.
It's it's almost like teleport, but there's no memory of it. Yeah,
and you think it's going to take this long to
make your career function, and then suddenly you have all

(43:10):
this good luck and things that are just falling in place.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
I am saying a lot of that around me. Yeah,
I want to read something that you wrote. You wrote
that the reality of the intuition Age will be the
result of a gradual but fairly rapid process of personal
and societal transformation. It can put you through the ringer
emotionally and energetically, but it will eventually deliver you to

(43:36):
an amazing, miraculous destination that you will love. That was
in the first book. I didn't argue that that still applies.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Oh, it totally. You know. I'm just amazed when I
pick up the book and read it, I go I
wrote that, where did that come from? That's why I
think that we you know, like it's just like me
as an ego or anything. It's like us, all of us,
you know, And I guess I've just our lives developed

(44:10):
this sort of skill of accessing and translating or something,
and also loving the power of language and you know
what words really mean, like etymology of words. I always
go back and look for the core of what was
really true, what's really true? Yeah, But I think this

(44:30):
is another thing about what I think is going to
be happening now and it already is, is that we
are going to have much more contact with non physical beings, yes,
and as real contact. And that could be you know,
dead relatives, it could be ascended masters and great leaders

(44:52):
from the past of Earth. It can be non physical
intergalactic beings, which I work with a lot actually, and
I have since my early twenties. But it's all part
of the we you know, it's there. But the idea
that you are reaching a frequency where you could actually

(45:14):
see them or have at least have dreams where they're there,
you know a lot. I don't. I don't think people
took that seriously enough before. I think we may have
actual evidence of it very very soon, or maybe you know,
real connection with ets or whatever you want to call it,

(45:37):
I like the star beings or the intergalactic beings. But
but I think that that's going to be revealed and
not kept secret except secrets, you know, transparency, Yes, yeah, yeah, the.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
I mean Pam Gregory and other astrologists have been talking
about this that we are, you know, going to have
connections to our galactive heritage, acalective family and.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
More memory of why you came here. It's like Dolores
Cannon's work is amazing because she, you know, a lot
of people remember why they came here and that they
had like a mission or you know, something they were
going to do here and they wanted to come. And
I think a lot of us are like.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
That, what kind of work are you doing with these beings?

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Well, in the early years, they would it was periodic,
and they would raise me up into like a ship
or something. And then one guy had a like a
little tool that looked like a cell phone today, but
it was back in the early eighties, I guess, I
don't know when it was, but and he ran They
were running it over my body and I said, what

(46:50):
are you doing? And they said, well, we're changing your
vibration from yellow to green. And then I telepathically knew, oh,
I'm going to be working with a lot of people
and working with kind of healing of some sort or something.
And but I get rea and jiggered, you know, re

(47:11):
fixed up every period. Yes, and then I moved from
like I moved all over the place, growing up every
two years, all over the country. And then I traveled
most of my career all over the world, and that
I needed to go to places and work on the grid,

(47:33):
and that was part of why I'm here, is also
to keep the grid stable and to be an outpost
in certain parts of the world or on places, and
that I would be moving or that, you know, that
I had to stay out stay for a while. I
don't know why exactly, but you know, those kind of things.

(47:55):
And then I get I've had surgeries, not from the
little gray beings, but from these really tall, very whitish
blue kind of beings. They don't have faces, they're just
they'll take on human human costumes. But you know, again, adjustments,

(48:17):
I think.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Yeah, you send out every year an oracle letter. Yeah,
came back over this year. We're now in October. How
acute was your Well, I.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Have no idea what I wrote back then. I can't
remember that. If I look back also to the early
early ones, a lot of that has happened. A lot
of that has happened, and yeah, I just try to
just tune into general flow and how the consciousness is

(48:53):
evolving and try to write about that.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Have you tuned into the flow for next year? Because
twenty twenty five has been one of those years that
people you know, point to and say, there, that's when
things are going to happen.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Well, it's gonna be Oh this year has been a
lot like that too, But I think we've really started
this work of making like a total shift. Like who
I was last year, I'm not that anymore, you know,
I'm different. And I've had a couple of really major,

(49:36):
like blowout openings, but peaceful, you know, really like oh great,
you know, like oh my, I'm in at cardiac, I
see you for three weeks having my heart operated on.
But those kind of things. And next year I think
or twenty five will be a continuation for a lot

(49:57):
of people who haven't quite gotten there yet and are
going to go through those kinds of openings and shifts,
and then the other people that have already started and
that they're going to be integrating, integrating, integrating, and having
all kinds of new skill sets and abilities come forth,
a new I think we're going to see healers just

(50:18):
really multiply and be able to do miraculous kinds of things.
And I also think there's going to be a lot
more innovation and a sense that a balance to the
artificial intelligence. You know, the technology piece is great, but

(50:39):
without heart, it's a little dangerous. It's getting dangerous. And
I think that there will still be a need in
some people's cultures for this war, like in the Middle
East right now, where it's almost like you have to
go through the very very worst and hit bottom or

(51:01):
lose your loved ones in order to get back to
the heart. And I hate that. I hate that it
has to go that far, and I don't think it
really is necessary. I would like to see people get
the idea that it's just not necessary to have armageddon anymore.
That's an old prophecy.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Yeah, what can we possibly gain from killing each other?
I think unless we take it as a lesson.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Right or just having vengeance because we didn't get our way. Yeah,
and we need to let other people. All kinds of
belief systems and people and colors and everything live in
our neighborhood. You know.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Yeah, Well, as you said earlier, you know, we have
to get used to we're not that anymore. We don't
have to do things the way that they've always been done.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
We can differently if you really feel yourself, your sense
that a lot of things we've been carrying, we just
dropped them, and you know, and maybe it's that we
don't quite know what to do with the freedom. And
the point well, yeah, and fear.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Fear is a.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Powerful but to go back and think about children, they
have no trouble drawing something on a piece of paper.
They have that you know, the whole picture comes out
and they know it right away and they just go
ahead and do it. Pick up the brand, do some
of that. You know, why aren't we allowing ourselves to
just be as freely to open to create anything. Start

(52:39):
with one piece and go to the next one, and
then the next one and see what it turns out
to be.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
M hm. You had another book that came out this
year and it was called Women Gone Wild.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Yeah, Intuition, The.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Feminine Guide to Fear Us Live in You're the celebrity author.
It's an anthology, twenty five women shared their stories. Yes,
you know intuition and how they've used it overcome things.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
I love the thoughts.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Women gone Wild.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Actually, what is it an anagram? It's like there are
four volumes, So the first one came out last year.
It's Wealth, then Intuition, then Leadership, and then Diversity. So
there will be two more coming in the next two years.
But the stories are very inspiring, and I think for

(53:34):
most people who are wondering, is that okay, if I
could change something or come out of abusive situations or
anything like that. Just a lot of these people live
through it and did it and are offering a lot
of support. So I think it's a great book for women.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Well, we're almost out of time now. One last question.
If you have any message to give to people, whatever
phase there right now, what might that be?

Speaker 5 (54:05):
Right?

Speaker 3 (54:05):
I think the very important thing is notice what you're noticing.
It's you and the big U talking. There's a message,
there's something there for you, and it's just right. And
if it seems like a snag, and if it seems bad,
it's only because there's something in you that is trying
to get unsnagged. It's always the same, the inner and

(54:29):
the outer. So nobody's doing anything to you. You know,
it's old memory or whatever it is. But you're clearing
and these are the way things come to you to
realize what you're clearing or what your new gifts are.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Yeah, you make your oh sounds so excising, Penny.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Well, I think it is. I think it's fun. I
mean I always say self entertainment is a very high state,
you know, and that we need to stay in that
and not elvin to worry and negative thinking and all
the negative what ifs, because we just drain energy away
that way.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
That's so true, Penny Pierce, thank you so much for
joining us today.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Thank you, sir, never enough.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Time when we get together.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
You're so great at what you do. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Thank you. Epsteinc. Anniversary edition of Frequency, The Power of
Personal Vibration is published by Beyond Words Publishing. For more
information on Penny Pierce's books, courses, events, mentoring, and her
annual Oracle letter, visit Penny Pierce dot com. And I
am going to spell that for you because it's not

(55:42):
spelled how you think it is. P E n N
E Y p E I r c E dot com. Correct, Yes, and.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
That's a nice way to say it too. I can
even remember it.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
OK, that's it for this week. I'm Sandy Sedigber. I'll
be back at the same time next week with another
edition of What Is going On? Till then, it's goodbye
for me and heartfelt thank you to Penny Pierce.
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