Walking the Spiral Path of Transformation with Linda Star Wolf

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to what is going on for New Thought from
the Edge of Arm. Each week on home Time's flagship
radio show, veteran broadcaster, author, and media consultant Sandy Sedgeber
conducts thought provoking interviews with inspirational authors, artists, musicians, scientists, speakers,
and filmmakers who are working at the point where spirituality

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and science meet consciousness, at the very edge of ALM.
Here is your host, Sandy sedge Beer.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Hello and welcome today's show. I've got three questions to
start with. Are you here and in a calling to
wake up and remember who you really are? Do you
have a compelling soul urge to return to ancient wisdom
and the deep shamanic medicine with it? Do you believe

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that you have access to an enchanted life? Joining me
today to answer these questions and far more is Shamanic visionary, teacher,
guide and creator of the Shamanic Breathwork Process Star Warf,
the founder of the Venus Rising Association for Transformation and
president of Venus Rising University for Shamanic Psycho Spiritual Studies.

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Star Worf is creator of the Shamanic Minister's Global Network
and the Wise Warf Council She's also the author of
thirteen books, including Shamanic Breathwork, Journeying, Beyond the Limits of
the Self, Shamanic Mysteries of Peru, and her latest release,
The Aquarian Shaman Walk in the Spiral Path of Transformation,

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which we'll be discussing today. Star Warf Welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Thank you, standing, so good to be with you here today.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
So first, congratulations, the book has only just been published
two days old. Is that right?

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yay?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Beautiful cover?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yes, it is, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
That's really stunned, It really is.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
I'd like to say I had some part in that,
but I didn't Mother publishers, which are my wonderful you
know publishing company with Bear and Company Inner Traditions, which
is they're just fabulous. But they chose this and sent
it to me, and I just said, oh, because I
had some other things in mind, and I went, this
is it. So it was a real gift to be

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presented with something that's so resonated and immediately when you
look at it, there's this feeling of, oh, this is
what the aquarian shaman is, the one who's on this path,
who's found their trail, their packed like the wolf.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yes, yeah. So in the Aquarian Shaman you share that
your journey towards personal healing was a destiny waiting to
be fulfilled, but you only recognize the nessess of self
focus at twenty nine. You'd been unconsciously medicating your emotional
pain with alcohol for many years. So what happened when

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you were twenty.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Nine, Well, in order to explain what happened when I
was twenty nine, I think you have to know what
happened when I was thirteen or twelve actually, And that's
when my shamanic grandmother, which was my biological maternal grandmother,
and who believed in all these things that we believe
in now that we're doing. And she was from the

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Old Country, and I called her a renegade Baptist because
she was also praying to the fairies and the you know,
Jesus at the same time. So she was the one
who cared for me because my parents both worked. And
she passed it when I was twelve, and I was
a little bit of a strange child, perhaps an only child.

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Some would say, you know, a fairy child. Some might
say I had a little autism or something. But it
was just a little different, you know, and My grandmother
recognized that, and she put me in nature and she
started talking to me about the ones that are watching
over me and protecting me and all those kinds of things.
So that was implanted very early, and it helped ground

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me rather than take me out. It helped ground me
because of the spirit that I was. And once she
died suddenly when I was twelve, I just plummeted. There
was no one else to really hold that. And it
was after all, the nineteen sixties and as I right
at my thirteenth birthday, shortly after she had passed, I

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started using alcohol and drugs at a very early age,
mainly psychedelics and things. But it took me down a
path of addiction. There was in some ways it saved
my life, if you can understand that. It was like medicine.
But because I didn't have anybody to support any kind
of counseling or support or understanding of altered states, I

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was a hot mess. And so you know, I was
a hippie marching for peace and all these kinds of things,
and Martin Luther King and you know, all these things,
and my heart and head was in the right place
and that way, but my spirit just was lost and
in my own soul loss. So it was through my

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own recovery at twenty nine and Sandy, no one and
my whole family knew that I was addicted because I
was so good. I was still that type a personality
that managed to cover it up. And so what happened
for me is that I hit a bottom, you know,

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I hit an emotional and spiritual bottom, and I had
to recognize and when I literally was on my knees
at the altar of my toilet in my bathroom, and
I just said, I can't do this anymore. If I
have to do this and live like this and live
this double life, I would rather die. And I asked,
I didn't even know what to ask. I believed in

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nebulous kinds of spirits and stuff, but I just said,
you know, God, I don't know who or what you
are or if you're even really there, but if you are,
I promise to you that if you will remove this
obsession from me, because that's what it was, this obsessive,
addictive process for me, the rest of my life is yours.

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And then I went and laid down for about three
hours and I fell in into a deep sleep, which
I never ever did. In the middle of the day,
and when I woke up, I got up and I
felt just kind of odd. And later on that night
I realized that I had not thought about drinking anything.
And from that day till now, which is forty two years,
forty two and a half years later, not one time

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as a compulsion. Now, this is a miracle, Sandy, this
is a true miracle. For anybody's ever had an addiction
with anything. I've never even had the thought or the
compulsions since that time. So I knew that my higher
power had made a bargain with me. The rest of
my life belonged to my creator.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
An interesting age because it's around about that time that
we have our satin return, which is usually a hugely
important transition in our lives.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yes, very much so. An astrologer since then that I've
talked to said, well, of course, that's when you had
your Shamank initiation. You know, you're a big one. I've
had many before and since, even as a child and
as an adult all these years, but that was the
one where I made a choice to say, on this
planet and to be here, fully be here. If I

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couldn't be here and I was just going to be
an addiction. I would have died pretty soon.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
And of course you became a certified alcohol and drug
counselor did that for me in many years. One of
the things that you've done that intrigues me is that
you've you've actually studied a variety of breathwork techniques. I'm
curious to know. Why would you want to study lots
of different breathwork techniques.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Well, you know, I think that for me. I also
had this what Stan Graff from holotropic breathwork called a
coex systems of condensed experience. That there tends to be
patterns in people's lives that are intrinsic specifically to them.
Maybe it's even decided before we come here. And I
had breathing issues at birth. I had kind of breathing

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issues as a child, with allergies and things like that.
When I actually had my I had an overdose when
I was a teenager, which didn't wake me up enough,
but it did and I and when that happened, I
did die and quit breathing, and I went out of
my body. And I looked back and so myself and

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then for a few minutes and heard them say I
wasn't going to make it, and the next thing I knew,
I woke up so and I'm just choking up a
little bit thinking about it, and so, you know, just
kind of remembering that. Then I've developed kind of almost
like asthmatic symptoms, had lots of allergies, all those kinds
of things. So there's been this almost failure to fully embody,

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to really come into this body. And I think maybe
myself said, are you sure you want to do this
particular lifetime? Doesn't seem like there's a whole lot of
people that understand you, you know, there, you know, there's
this is a big one. If you're going to do
this one. You know, if you're going to do this one,
you're going to die a couple of times and then

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you can decide if you really want to live, and
if you do, it's going to be a dedication to
planetary service. Really, you know, it's kind of like I'm enlisted,
you know, I'm an enlisted woman sort of thing, shaman,
and you know, I I'm tearing up, Sandy. I can't
help but because I have such a beautiful life, and

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I've had such a beautiful life, and that does not
mean a life without turmoil, without heartbreak. You know, I've
had many, many very human initiations that many people go through.
I'm not special. We all we all have heartbreak. We
all have lost loved ones, you know, to this realm

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anyway from this realm, and we've all been disappointed, and
we've all made mistakes. And meant, I think that everyone
has their own private little addictions. Some aren't as devastating
as others. And when we return to the breath and
we start to learn to fully breathe, it's like we

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wake up. It's like we come out of a trance.
People say we breed to get altered. I say, we
breathed to get here, to get born. You know, I'm
not breathing anymore to leave. I'm breathing to be here now.
As my buddy Rahmdas would say, I am here to
be here now. And there's all kinds of breathing techniques,

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and now there's a gazillion breathwork schools. When I started
doing that, there was like three, you know. So I'm
grateful to see this wonderful explosion of people waking up
and saying, oh, perhaps I could go into an altered
state that would expand my consciousness. And I could do

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this with the breath. I don't have to have anything
else outside of me except love, you know, and self love,
and just to breathe and release this god molecule right
between my eyes, you know, release this natural DMT in
my own pineal gland, and awaken to who I really am.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
So I've written thirteen books. What inspired you to write
this particular one?

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Well, this one would have been maybe six or seven
or eight if I could have gotten together to write it.
And I judged myself for it, like I keep starting
this and then I put it down. And then I
realized because I have really wonderful astrologer friends. And Daniel
Giamario is one of my favorite astrology friends. I just
talked to him the other day for an hour. We've

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been Betty's for a very long time, about thirty five years,
and he said to me, if you're going to write
that book, you need to do it now. This is
the time, you know, And I thought, maybe this is
why I could. It's been playing around in my brain.
I've written a chapter and threw it over here. I'd
scribble on the back of a napkin with this I

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did these things, but it just never felt like right timing,
and I couldn't explain it to you, except it just didn't.
And there were other things that were coming into my
view at times, you know, because I just was going
to Peru, I was going to Egypt. In fact, I
go to Egypt here just pretty soon a couple of weeks,
and so and South Africa, and so I would go

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and study the mysteries there and write about those. And
so there were things that were happening in my life
that were leading me to write those other books. But
the Aquarium Shaman was really almost like back here all
the time, pless you. It was almost just always right
back here in my consciousness that it's coming, it's coming.

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And it just seems to me that astrologically, with what
I've been told about my chart, I have, you know,
I have Aquarus rising, I have Venus and Mars both
and Aquarius. So even though I'm asa sagittarian and I
you know, a sun sign and a Scorpio moon, I
have all this aquarium energy in my chart to bring

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I think the mysticism of my Scorpio moon and my
enthusiasm with my sagittarian energy to bring that and funnel
it into an aquarium, if you will, kind of dispensation.
And I don't know if you remember the I can't
remember write this minute. You may remember my name was Ferguson,
who wrote about Aquarius. I can't think of the name

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of her book at this moment, but it was a
huge hit. And I read that years ago, and I
remember thinking like, oh, it's on its way. It's own
its way. So I didn't particularly go like, oh, this
is astrologically happening, so this is one to write this.
But what happened. It was just this urge and this feeling.
And I started writing on this book seven or eight
years ago, but then published others first, and then it

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just popped up last year and it was like it's time.
I'm like, it's time. And then everyone I talked to
and the astrological girl said, it's perfect. This is perfect
for this time when we're saying that, or at least
I'm saying and others. I knew that the healer, the teacher,
the shaman is within, and ultimately that's what all spiritual

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pass from Christianity talking about the Holy Spirit that comes within.
That's with us talking about the Guru is within. When
then you talk to the gurus, I say, you must
find the guru within that We've been moving towards this
for a very long time. And when I would talk
to grandmother Twila, and I'll just show you a quick
picture of her, she was mine. I still say she is,

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even because she's on the other side. She talks to
me all the time in the dream time. She was
a Seneca Wolf clan. Grandmama. That's me long time ago
when I lived out in California, and she's got her
hand on my head, you know. And she's the one
who gave me my name Star Wolf. And she'd I'd
ask her questions and she'd always say, well what do

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you think? And I would say and I would think,
oh God, please let me get this right, you know,
And I would say it and she said that's pretty good,
you know. And I'd say, well, what do you think, Graham.
Then she'd share with me, you know, and she said, sweetheart,
follow your heart if you fought. She said, I'm not
talking about your emotions. Follow your heart's wisdom. She said

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that you know the aquarium energy that you're talking about.
She said, I know about that energy. She said, I'm
in touch with that, and she said, and I continue
to follow my heart. Seek wise, counsel, but follow your heart.
And I've remembered that very deeply. And then she said,
now show me how to do that breathing thing you do.

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So I flew out to California, where I was living
at the time, outside of San Francisco and Fairfax, and
that just so happened. I was having a workshop during
that time, and I brought her in and people were like,
oh my god, we're getting to me. Grandmother, Twila the
wolf Clinn grandmother, and she was in her eighties at
that time. She passed it on to the other side
of ninety four, and I brought her there and her

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son and some other people and some Mayan elders and
stuff for that week long that we had. And I
pulled her out a great, big, comfortable rocking chair and
said it right in the middle of the room. We
got the pulled the shades down, made it kind of dark,
and everybody else was lying down on mats, and so
for about an hour, everybody breathed and she breathed. And

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when it was over, I noticed she had tears running
down her cheek, her cheeks, and I went over. I said, Graham,
are you okay? And she said yes, And I said,
I saw you crying, and she said, I wish I
had have found this earlier, you know, to make me cry.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
The spirit of her must be with you now, because yeah,
I had my throat. Yes, has been doing something, and
I've had tears running down my face. So I'm sure
her spirit is with us now.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Sanji, I can tell you she is with you right now.
I wouldn't be surprised if you dream about her tonight,
or she comes to you and gives you her medicine.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Oh, that would be lovely. I would definitely welcome that.
And you're so right. The timing of a book is perfect,
you know. It's it's so important, and so many people
are waken up right now and they are looking for
the tools. They're looking for the guides, they're looking for
the people they can trust who are going to lead

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them to the knowledge that you know that they want
to remember, and to.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
The knowledge that ultimately, just like we have an immune system,
just like we have inspirations, that the wisdom we're seeking
really is in our DNA, yes, and it's in our
spiritual DNA. We're programmed whatever the great mystery did, it
programmed us to evolve and to awaken. And as Jene

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Houston would say, there's termas that come in one's life,
and when that terma happens, it's a point. It's it's
the terma can become a turning point for you if
you surrender to it and go through a in many ways,
a psychological death, yeah, yeah, and a renewal.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
So the title of the book implies that there's a
difference between shamanism and the aquarium shamanism. So why aquarian?

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Well, the difference, I would say, and you know, I
don't know if there's difference. What I would say is
it's the I feel it's the integration. I feel like
it's the next evolution of shamanism. So it's just like
everything I've learned before is not necessarily discredited or not important.
It's the stepping stones. And we think about evolution with

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human beings. Right now, I'm wondering if we're devolving you
know a little bit or a lot. But you know,
but sometimes we have to take a step back, like
a sling shot, to get the momentum to go, oh
this sucks. We got to move forward. You know. So
that's I think that's just part of human nature. We
just have to like, oh dear, okay, oh like you are,
oh dear, you know, and then we have to come

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forward and move forward. But the shamanism of all ancient
wisdom is beautiful, just like all the ancient texts when
you read the Bible in its original form, when you
go back to the you know, the Hindu teachings, the Buddhism.
I'm thinking about how Paramahanza did a wonderful thing when

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he brought that philosophy into mainstream. So ancient wisdom is
something that's in our dna, just like the minerals in
our bodies, our ancestors. It's with us. Many people who
do shamanic breathwork with me remember wisdom that they haven't

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learned in this lifetime. And so it's not that it's
not still relevant and important. But like everything everything in
life that I know of, everything is renewing and evolving
into even more wisdom. So it doesn't mean better or worse.

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I don't like that model of that was bad. Now this,
so we're going to have good now. To me, there's
a divine perfection in the light and the dark, and
believe me, I've learned a lot from the dark. I've
learned a lot from the shadow. I love the light.
I love to bask in the light. I love it
when it's love and roses. And I've learned enough that

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I don't have to suffer as much anymore. My threshold
for bane is less. I can hold it psychologically, but
my patience for it is less, and I'm like that hurts.
I'm stopping it. Okay, So this is for me common sense.
But the aquarian shaman energy, whereas the new paradom, if

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you will, that's evolving. At least this is my interpretation,
and there's many. Is that we're at a time when
there's seven to eight billion people on the planet. We're
taking up a lot of space, time, energy, and resources,

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and we don't have time to be children of God anymore.
We must become adults of God or if you don't
like the word God or God is we must if
our species is going to survive, we must become adult adults,

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not adult children, adults of the Creator. And that means
taking our rightful place, just like the trees have and
the mountains and the oceans and the birds and the
creatures of all kinds are perfectly who they are. We're
not meant maybe to be quote perfect, but there's a

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way that human beings where at. I believe we're at
a turning point and we're being asked to become the healers,
the shamans ourselves. And that doesn't mean that there still
might be, you know, the elders all around. In fact,
any elder who's survived a war or the depression, or

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an illness or anything else is a teacher as far
as I'm concerned, not just someone who calls himself a
shaman or a teacher. So I don't want people to
misunderstand me. I have tremendous respect for the indigenous elders,
and they always seem to like me, you know, And
I always love them and respect them so deeply. And

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I know they can't save us. They can give us
their wisdom if they choose to. They can explain things
and walk a certain path, and I'm I'm still learning
from them. I have one people that I look at
that I still learn from and call up regularly actually,
and I have access to phone calls to go to
these folks. But I'm very clear that with this amount

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of people on the planet that there's got to be
a major consciousness shift. And that's my mission, that's my
shamanic mission, is to help awaken the aquarium shaman within
each of us so that we can make the right
decisions for ourselves, for our loved ones, and for the planet.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
So, if I understand you correctly, you know, one has
always thought of Sharman's as being these elevated, highly trained,
highly connected individuals. But they're over there and we're here
and we may follow them, we may learn from them,
but we can't be them. But it sounds to me

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as though what you're saying is the aquarium shaman is
for everybody. We can all become aquarian Shawman.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yes. Yes. And the person that instilled that even mosted
with me. I said to grandmother Twila, is you know
like I could never be you? And she said, well,
I hope not be you, you know. But the person,
truly before I met Grandmother Twyla, that put me on
my breathwork path. She's eighty nine now, Jacqueline Small. I

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don't know if you know Jacqueline. If you don't, you
want to look up her books. We were talking. We
talked for three hours the other day. She was my
first breathwork teacher, and I met her when I was
twenty nine years old, twenty twenty eight years old, yeah,
twenty eight, and we were talking. And she was there

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in the beginning with Stan Groff and Christina when they
were developing holotropic breathwork, and then she developed and she
was also with Leonard Orr with rebirthing, and she birthed
the integrative breath work. So I hung out with Stan
and Christina and Marian Woodman and all these wonderful people.
Gabriel Roth, I don't know if you know who these

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people are, but they were just Mom Doss, he said,
in our circle. You know, these people were just sitting there.
We would did breath work together, you know. And then
Jacqueline and Stan separated their programs and she created integrative
breath work and I became one of her lead trainers.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
And this is us.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
This is me back in my early aquarian shaman years,
and this is Jacqueline and she's eighty nine now and
I'm seventy two. But we're there at the training program.
We've just breathed a huge group of people and we're
just as you can see, we're just full of light
and energy. Jacqueline's written about nine or ten books herself,
and if there was ever an aquarian shaman, it was her.

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My God, she knew all these people intimately, and when
she asked them to come, they would come. And I
was just a little girl from Kentucky, didn't know who
a lot of them were at the time. And she
said that's rom Das. I'm like, who's rom Goss? And
she said, be here now? And I went that Rom
does you know? I remember? I went over and I
hugged him, and he was so tall, and he kissed

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me on the forehead and I said, wow, that just
made my day. He said mine too. So it was
people like Taramahanza and rom Dos and all these other
people were beginning to end Leonard Orr who were saying, yes,
there's these masters. Leonard had been off and been with
Boba Gee, you know, and Leonard became a really good

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friend of mine the last few years before he passed.
But all of these teachers were saying, it's time for us,
it's time for us to be the grown ups now.
And so they didn't necessarily call it the aquarium shaman
or even say Aquarius, but that's what they implanted in

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me when I was in my thirties and my forties.
And then all of a sudden, it was like they're
talking about us stepping into being the yogis, the Shamans,
the way shores in other words. And then I started
teaching because in the addiction world, I taught about adult children,
you know, the adult children syndrome, you know, of growing

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up and being wounded and because of your parents, and
how to heal those wounds. We did a lot of
breath work to do that. I introduced that into the
mental health system. I introduced it into the where they
would let me into the addiction fields, things like that.
And then I said, Okay, I'm too restricted. I'm going
to go do this on my own. But at the
same time, I became aware that out of everything we

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were doing with people, all the charts we were doing,
all the explanations we were doing with people, that I
could have people at a treatment center. They wouldn't let
me have them lie down on the floor, but I
could have them set at a table in a room
with the lights turned down, with a piece of paper
in front of them, with some crowns. I could put

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some music on. I could guide them just a little
bit and then just tell them to breathe and to
draw whatever they were seeing and feeling, and to close
their eyes and then open and draw and to let
themselves feel whatever emotions they felt. I could do that
for thirty minutes, flip the back light on back on,

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and I would have gotten further because that we would
process it. I would have gotten further with those people.
And this is not bragging. It's just the reality, Sandy,
when therapists are counselors or because some people are there
against their will, even you know then anybody else was
at that time, and you know, it was it was
such a strange thing because on the one hand, people

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are saying, that's great work you're doing. Now stop doing
it because you know it's too dangerous. I'm like, these
people were dying from addiction. How dangerous could it be. Yeah,
It's like.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
There was certainly a lot of that around.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
You know what I'm talking about, don't you?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
I do. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
So the aquarian shaman energy is saying, we can't wait.
We've got you know, human beings need to grow up.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, and we've got it all inside us. We just
need to connect with it. Yeah, Well, we're going to
take a short break now you're listening to What is
going On. I'm Sandy Sigbia and my guest today is
Shamanic visionary, teacher guide, author and creator of the Shamanic
Breathwork process, star Warf, and we're talking about her latest book,

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The Aquarian Shaman Walking the Spiral Path of Transformation. We'll
be back with more from star Warf after this break.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
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Speaker 4 (30:48):
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The book is made up of these three levels shadows, gifts,
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Speaker 2 (34:30):
Welcome back, star Wolf. You say that embodying aquarian shamanic
consciousness can help transform our planet. Tell me what would
a practice of aquarian shamanism look like in everyday life?

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Well, it just so happens that during that little break,
this aquarian shaman burned a little sage and stage is
a part of my everyday life. And this beautiful wing
came from a swan that passed naturally in Iceland, and
one of my graduate students sent it to me, and
it's a treasure for me because the swan and Grandmother

(35:10):
Twila's tradition represents surrender of the heart and Grandmother Twila
for a lot of people who may not know, I
just want to say this. So many people are familiar
with the medicine cards, those medicines. That's her teachings, that's
her body of teachings and that she passed on to
Jamie Sam's and it's the most popular deck in the world.

(35:35):
So grandmother Twila was such an aquarian shaman already herself.
The burning of this sage, I've burned it so much
in my life. I've been in so many ceremonies with
so many beautiful teachers that just lighting it brings back
a rush, just like when you're a child and you
smell cotton candy or popcorn popping. It automatically opens up

(35:59):
all those pathways in my brain and in my body,
in my memory body, to put me in a position
where I'm ready to release anything in my field, whether
it's in my negative thinking, whether something's happened and I'm
obsessing about it, or the political world, you know, especially

(36:21):
I've been smudging a lot lately around all of that.
But it's I just drop in immediately to a place
of letting and releasing and letting go, and I think
about the beautiful energy of this purity of the swan
and the heart and spirit, and that drops me into

(36:44):
a different level of consciousness. That's just one thing that
I will do if I find myself zipping around because
I've got thirty things to do. I'm mostly important, you know,
and that kind of thing in my mind, I can
get like that it's like stomp and I walk right
out on my deck because we have fifty acres here,

(37:05):
or it has us, I should say, on top of
this beautiful mountain in western North Carolina, looking out at
the mountains of rivers across the road. We have a
creek on the land. We have creatures everywhere. And I've
been here for twenty two years. So I have all
these beautiful bushes and plants that have planted themselves, or
that I planted that lean over my patio porch, and

(37:27):
I go out into nature. And now because of the many,
many generations of butterflies and bees that come, I can
just walk out and I can put my finger up
to the butterfly bush. A butterfly, I think it's a
great great grandchild of the ones that you know, they said,
go there, she's safe, and if she puts her finger out,
it's okay to stand on it. You know the same

(37:48):
thing with the bees. I'll put those big black, fuzzy
ones and people say, oh, what's a bee. I'm like stop,
I'll go over. I put my hand out underneath the bush,
underneath the rose, and let it crawl into my hand.
There's a reciprocity with nature, a beautiful reciprocity with nature

(38:08):
that heals me. To me, it's an affirmation when they
don't sting me, and they haven't in a long time.
And I feel my flowers when they see me coming,
fling their hair, their petals and fluff up, you know,
like here she comes. She's the one that waters us
and loves us and talks to us, the crazy lady

(38:29):
that we love. And there's that talking with my plants,
talking with my creatures. And I'm theirs too, By the way,
they don't belong to me. We belong to each other.
And my wolf dogs that live here with me, my husband,
my community, my friends. All of this is ritual and
ceremony for me. All of this regulates my nervous system,

(38:53):
that nervous system that that little hyper sensitive you know
Crystal child could not do herself that her mammy Jones
did for her. Now, as an adult, it's my responsibility.
And I've learned that I'm only a few breaths away
from the aquarian shaman. Every day of my life. I

(39:15):
can be a hot mess self if I want to,
and go into my shadow and pull the cover over
my heads and say I won't get up and I
won't do this, and I won't do that. Grandmother Twilet
told me when she was little that her grandfather told
her grandfather Shang Moses heard he told her she was
going to grow up and be the chief, be the
leader of her tribe, of the wolf clan, And she

(39:36):
said she pulled her hair in her face, and she pouted,
and she said, you can't make me. And then later
on she said, as she got older that she would
always hear her father, her grandfather's voice, and see the
twinkle in his eye. And he appreciated that she was
so spunky, little Sagittarian girl and loved her dearly, and
he taught her.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
So are you saying that if we embody the shamanic consciousness,
the aquarium shamanic consciousness, our lives will be so different?
You know that we will naturally find our connection to nature,
to the earth, to one another, to ourselves. We will
be different, and society would be different, and this is

(40:21):
how we can change the world.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Well, said Sandy, you should write that down. I'm serious.
That was beautiful. That was really, you know, just such
a flow, because I think we're all born shamanic. I mean,
look at our birth. There's nothing more shamanic than birth
and death. That kind of the signal that you're shamanic.
Did you know how you got conceived and born? And

(40:46):
you know how you might leave? And in between we
have other these actually minor compared to birth and death.
Minor birth and death. I'm not trying to trivilize it,
especially the sexual use or illness or anything else. But
I myself, you know, I'm remarried now happily and feel

(41:07):
really happy in my life. But I was deeply in
love with a beloved that I did this work with
that we traveled and he helped develop this work with
me so much in the beginning, and I traveled with
him for two years through his cancer journey and he
passed in my arms. And the last thing that we
did was the breath work, and that's what we were

(41:30):
doing when he passed, and that's how he wanted to leave.
He had a d D Do Not Resist d n
R written on his chest and in the hospital and
he said if they come in, no, So I laid
down and held him and he breathed, and he breathed
himself out. And that was one of the hardest things

(41:54):
I ever did.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
But it.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Also, it was so beautiful because in the days to come,
he showed up so many times with all kinds of
things to let me know that he was okay, including
turning on a computer that was turned off to a
song that we listened to and I didn't even have
at that time as iTunes people used to listen to.

(42:17):
I didn't even have it pulled up and I was sleeping.
So there's so much we don't know about birth, life
and death. We're here to explore that, Sandy.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
So in the book The Aquarian Charman, I mean, it's
filled with ancient shamanic practices, rituals, ceremonies, wisdom. I mean
you cover just you know, many techniques and components and
journey in total, animals, spirit teachers, elements of nature, etc.
Do you think it's possible that we can and become

(43:01):
an aquarian shaman from reading a book and following, you know,
practicing some of these tools that we don't have to
go and be trained by somebody that we could actually
you know, embody this utilizing what you're offering in this book.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
So without dishonoring or discrediting the beautiful shamans that I've
known in the past, the ones I know now, the
medicine people who don't necessarily call themselves shamans, but that
would be the word that a lot of us will
refer to them as and all around the world, because
I have beautiful friends from Peru and from around the

(43:42):
world who are indigenous, indigenous shamans in that to their country,
their world. I'm going to come back to your question,
but I want to say something about the word indigenous first,
if I may, and that is, if you go somewhere
and somebody says that plant is indigenous to this area
or that animal is indigenous to this area, there is
one thing that all human beings have in common. And

(44:05):
I wish this was an original, but this is what
grandmother Twyla said to me because I asked her these
questions that you're asking me many years ago. I have
blonde hair, I have blue eyes from you know, my
family's all from Europe. You know they were probably burned
at the stake. I just feel that in my body,
you know, I just know that's true. But you know,

(44:27):
you know, is this okay? That I'm doing this and everything?
And what she said to me is the most important
thing for you to remember is that all people, animals,
nature is indigenous to the earth. We all belong to

(44:49):
Mother Earth. She is our mother. Just like you might
have differences if you have different family members or brothers
or sisters or whatever. There's differences with cultures and countries,
and I'd never, never, never want to be flip or
are shallow around that, and especially with the genocide that

(45:13):
has happened and people's horrible treatment of other people for
practicing their spiritual ways or their cultures, which is horrible.
So I want to get that confused with this. I
have deep honoring and respect and you know for people
who have not been allowed to do their ceremonies. Grandmother

(45:36):
Twila was on the team that tried to and that
did help get the Religious Freedom Act passed so that
Native Americans could practice their spirituality again. She went to Washington,
little five foot gal that she was okay, so that
we need to separate that out from that. Okay, But

(45:59):
the indigtion, this part for me is is like Grandmother
Twila said, she said, we all need to come together.
We all need to remember this aquarium energy, that we
belong to the earth, that we're indigenous to the earth.
We respect the differences. She created this sacred circle, and
she said it's called the talking stick circle. And in

(46:20):
that circle, and of course the other things had particular circles,
but this was the kind that she did. That every
person had their sacred point of view, and your only
responsibility and obligation was to listen and do your best
not to have other things going on in your head
what each sacred point of view was, and then not

(46:44):
attacking or counterattacking, to state yours, and that just in
the listening we begin to understand each other, and that
it's not about being critical of anyone or anything else.
It's about what is my sacred point of view. So
she was very acquarium in her own nature. And so yes,

(47:06):
I believe that the Wayshore is like Grandmother Twila, like
the Wayshorees like RHM doas some that you wouldn't know
of different teachers mayann teachers. I've met so many different
indigenous teachers who said the same thing to me that
Grandmother Twila said. They were wise and they said, yes,
we have our people, this is what we're doing the

(47:26):
other efforts, but we need you too. It's not going
to change without all of us. And so I've been
blessed in that way. I was blessed at the sun
Dance with the chief there who said to me, please
go back and share this medicine. So the enlightened people
that I feel that I have met, and now they've
seen my heart, they've known what my intention was, but

(47:51):
also my actions were. You know, when I was there
the chiefs, I'm not going to say, oh, but a
family member had addiction problems and I supported they help
with that, you know, so they understand. I wasn't there
just to take I was there to learn, and I
was learning to go back to help make this world
a better place for all of us. So we're all

(48:13):
indigenous to the earth. As Grandmother toy I would say,
we all should look at it. Matthew Fox said we
should all look into our own spiritual paths and take
it apart and look at it and see what's relevant
and what's not. He did that with the Catholic Church. Yeah, yeah, right.
I went to his school during that time when he
was being accused of cavorting with a witch. That's what

(48:33):
he said. I remember him standing up and he said,
apparently I'm being fired from the Vatican. I got a
pink slip for cavorting with a witch. You know, I
love that, he said. I'm not sure what the cavorting was.
I don't remember it, he said, but she was a witch.
She may have drugged me.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
We only have about six minutes left. There's a one
question that I want to ask you, and I know
that there's something that you want to read to us.
And first the question. In twenty ten, you published a
book titled the Thirty Shamanic Questions for Humanity, From Ego
Agenda to Sole Purpose, remembering the bigger picture. We don't

(49:18):
have time for those thirty questions. But if you had
to pick one really important question that people anyone watching this,
you know, should take on board and ask themselves, what
would it be?

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Oh gosh, you know, I'm just thinking about those questions.
Those questions were written. They were inspired because the person
who and I was very close to was tell me
she was considering suicide. And I sat down and prayed
and I asked my higher power what I could do
to help her, and just like an hour later, the

(49:57):
questions were written. And I barely remember. She was the
first person who did those questions. And as she did
those questions and answered them, you know, and she speaks
about it freely, so I'm not breaking her nanimity. She's
been on my team ever since and does those questions

(50:18):
in our groups with people, and the books have traveled
all around the world. People have worked them. So on
a different day, I would say the questions you might
enjoy knowing this, Sandy. I'm doing those questions again myself
right now. I'm on question eighteen with one of my
very best friends who's one of the main Hoffman teachers

(50:42):
at the Hoffman Process, my best buddy, and we're on
question eighteen right now together. So I just wanted to
say that for people who feel like you go today
when you're done that, I said, I'm really feeling this
need right now to do the questions again, and so
it's a spiral path, right, Yeah. So I think that

(51:02):
that's the first thing is probably at the beginning, when
the question is asked, are you ready to surrender? Are
you ready to enter into a process of ego death
again again? Now that seemed like a good idea I found.

(51:25):
I'm launching this book, this is a really good time
for me to do these questions. Now that I'm on
question eighteen, which is you know, just slightly past half.
I'm like, what was I thinking? But of course it's perfect,
of course it's perfect. It's just when you get to
the middle of the journey, you're like, am I going

(51:46):
to make it all the way through to the other side?

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah? Okay, So before you read what you want to
read to us? One other question, how can we build
community support for query in shamanism and share it with
our friends and families.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Yeah? Well, you know, I think that being a planetary
service is where it's at. I think that's what aquarian
shamanism is about. And it's not like planetary service and
you know, and starving yourself or you know, it's not
about being a vegan or vegetarian, although it can be.
You know, half my friends are paleo and the other

(52:26):
half or vegans and vegetarian. You know, it's about finding
your path of service.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
What is that to you?

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Whether it's writing a book, whether it's doing what you're
doing here. What an incredible You're an aquarian Shawman, You're
already doing it. This is you know, what you're doing
is beautiful. You're bringing so much to so many people.
That's inspiring people. I believe that that the biggest thing
that aquarian shamans can do is inspire people. Inspire, you know,

(52:56):
inspire means to inspirit is to inspire other people with
your medicine, whatever it is, yoga, breath work, knitting, healthy, cooking, taking.
I'm seeing all these things on faceback now called foresting.
I think, are they talking about walking in the woods
like I do every day?

Speaker 4 (53:15):
You know?

Speaker 3 (53:16):
But whatever your gift is, and maybe you don't know yet.
And that's where a lot of times we come in
at Venus Rising is helping people remember that they had
an original imprint at birth, that they have karma that
they have. They're just like a seed of a plant

(53:38):
is destined to look a certain way and have certain characteristics.
We have lots of free will, no doubt about it.
But there is this beautiful I think, behind the scenes,
great mystery, gently and sometimes not so gently, guiding us
to the perfection of our soul's lotus that's unfolding. So

(54:00):
there's there's a lot of help.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
We're going to have to hurry up now if we're
going to hear what do you be to us? Okay,
So we've got about probably one minute.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Okay, So I'm just opened up. I just this is
what I decided to do. I like to do that,
so I opened up to the good medicine chest. With
the good medicine chest. In the shamanic world, it's important
to cultivate and create your good medicine chest the heart

(54:31):
in all areas of your life. Medicine does not mean
taking appeal to make you feel better. It could be,
but it's not necessarily. Our personal medicine is connected to
our inner shamanic voice that guides us towards personal power
and our spiritual healing gifts that we were born with.

(54:52):
As children, we were very close and connected to our
true essence, and we knew how to play into the
aspects of ourselves. We are natural shape shifters, saying things
like let's be Batman and Robin, or the Prince and
the Princess. Whatever. In our curiosity and our creative genius,

(55:16):
we will act out our different future selves that we
can imagine and embody. These are the first experience of archetypes.
Later they may serve you again when you're ready, beautiful.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
So before we close, I just want to tell everybody
that you are having an Aquarian Shaman book talk live
Zoom Celebration on the twenty ninth of September, the thirtieth
of September and October the first, and you're going to
be giving people an experience opening to the aquarian shaman within,

(55:56):
and you're going to share experiences and have questions and answers.
That is completely free and anyone can join it, and
we'll tell them at the end where to go to
register for that. I wouldn't say thank you very much
for being with us today, star a real treat.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Well, thank you, Sandy. I want to thank Christopher too,
Thank you Christopher. But Sandy, I just feel like if
we were in close proximity, we probably end up in
jail together. No, seriously, i'd really really kindred spirit with you,
and thank you so much for following your inner shaman.

(56:35):
You're clearly in your dharma. And thank you for this
beautiful interview.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Yeah, so welcome, our pleasure. The Aquarian Shaman Walk in
the Spiritual Path of Transformation is published by Inner Traditions,
and for more information about Star Wolf's books, work, the
Venus Rising Association for Transformation and University, visit Shamanic Breathwork
dot org. That's it for this week. I'll be back

(57:02):
at the same time next week with another addition of
what is going on Till then, it's goodbye for me
and once again many thanks star Wolf.

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