Where's My Sage?!! E109 Pawtograph's Parafest 4

Join Kristie and Mike for the next episode of Where's My Sage?!! This week we will talk about Pawtograph's Parafest 4! Please join us to learn all about this wonderful cause and meet some of the amazing people who will be involved with the event.

Episode Transcript

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Hey everyone, it's Tuesday night again. You know what that means, don't
you. It's time to join Mikeand Christie for another episode of Where's My
Sage, a show hosted by asecond medium and a guy on a quest
to find Bigfoot who thought? Together, they will take you on all sorts
of adventures and not with lots ofdifferent people. Christie even gives readings.

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It's time to sit back. No, no, get up and get ready.
You can't sample the universe sitting down. Your hosts are waiting. Come
on, let's go. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to
Where's My Sage? A taste theuniverse. I'm Mike with Michael, host

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Christie Lending Christie. How are youdoing tonight? Hello? I'm good.
How are you? Not too bad? Not too bad? Everybody out there?
Hello Melissa, and we're doing let'ssee. We got folks coming in,
so called darlings that she already toldus she was here ahead of time.

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So well, we appreciate your dedication. Thank you. I wasn't evenna
here that earlier. Wow, Tim, Yeah, so we got So what's
new and exciting up in the falls? Anything new and crazy up there.

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We're going to get another ice storm. That'll be fun. I think it's
supposed to be like tomorrow night intolike Thursday. Over it is four o'clock
tomorrow lit six o'clock on Thursday,mister Arie, and mine is clocked for
about the same with that, sothat, you know, Breece got rehearsals

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and everything else after school, sowe'll see what happens that. But yep,
did the work, did the pickingthe kid up from the rehearsal thing.
I'm here, so yeah, howabout you. I've been farting around
with that new thermal camera and justtrying to get that set. You know.

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We got it out in the woodsthe other day and did some driving
around trying to find some stuff.So skunks everywhere. We can't figure this
one out. I have never seenso many skunks. But so that's why
you asked it look a skunk.Well literally, that was that night we
went out. We went out Saturdaynight, and then again all day on

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Sunday and then all on Monday.It was like, literally, I've never
seen so many skunks in our area. So thank you. So I I
could change a background here, andI got something on my camera, so
Yeah, it's been busy, umtrying to get it set because I'm going
to try to get out with Callsand Kenny Irish and see what those guys

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are doing. They got an eventover near all many of the this weekend.
So if the weather's not too bad, I'm gonna try to swing over
for that big Foot thing. Ifit's swing over, swing right over there.
It's like a four hour drive,five hour drive something like that.
Yeah, just step right out overthere, what Melissa says a couple of

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guys. I can tell you thatright now, because you certainly don't drive
where you can swing anywhere I do. But you don't know, I know
how to follow the speed limit.Yeah yeah, little miss goody two shoes.
Yeah, it's more explaining to theboss that you did something wrong.

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So, but isn't it called theprofessional courtesy? Where's that? I mean?
God? So? Um so,folks, high hello, so please
like chair subscribe, hit those buttons. We've got some guests tonight. Um
so, yeah, we got someevents coming up. You've got some events
from I've got a couple coming up, um be hitting some swamps with Matt

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from Central Florida, Bigfoot and hopefullywith my thermal guy if he doesn't get
too angry, because the first twounits I had issues, but so angry.
But uh so, well, youknow, I have an event coming
up in April that I we needto start telling people about too. It's

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called Psychic in the Valley. It'sin Gouanda, but it's going to be
a lot of people in Actually Aprilthe Housewife Psychic Housewaye from New Jersey's going
to be there, ap right,Yes, April's would be there. Brian
and Rochelle are going to be there. I cannot wait to finally meet them
in person. Yes, I can'twait to see April again. I love

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her to death. Um who else? There's going to be a whole bunch
of people there. I'm doing agallery reading there that day. Um,
I probably have a table too.But yeah, so that's another one coming
up in April. But um,actually, so that'll make two events for
me in April. My first oneis going to be oh no, that
is the first one, because thefirst that's going to be I think the

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fifteenth, and then I know,listen, it's been a long freaking day,
can you breaking? But yeah,I got the Banshee first and then
yeah, this one, that one. Yeah, yeah, that's just me.
Yes, So tickets are still onsale. You can do that.
That's in downtown Buffalo. Um coollocation. It's a really really cool locations,

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whole historic you know, they gotsome really interesting architecture in there and
stuff like that. Yeah, yeahthey do. Yeah, we did a
psychic fair there and actually Rob wasthere. We were both doing it that
day, um at the Banshee IrishPub. So it was really cool.
It's a neat place. The foodfantastic. Oh my god. I did
take out to go home and actuallyafterwards, oh my god, the food

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was amazing. Connor Way to goon that, oh for sure. So
yeah, nothing else, no,you said, just busy. Ryan reading
from Western New York's big Foot puta nice little video out. I probably
should put a link in there andyou yeah. So, uh, there's
a professor at NC State that's gettingready to do a DNA project with you

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know, unknown hair and Brian didnice little video or Ryan did a little
video on now and see us.We did Christie out with our first big
Foot event with Ryan over in Chattaqua. Yes, that was extremely eventful for
me. Left, but Ryan,I did a nice little review on the

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pink Hair project with the the UV. So uh, hopefully we're gonna get
some more samples and rock some someof that stuff out, so we kind
of he didn't this a little tiein with both the projects and the Darcy
the or Derby they get the professorsin charge of things. Okay, you
know, very cool. We gotsome other interesting scientific stuff coming up with

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some other folks coming soon. Sonice, very nice. All right,
I think we should pull our firstguest up here. I think we should
because we have a lot of coolpeople tonight to share the show with.
Yeah, this is gonna be great. So you guys, we're gonna be
talking about the podographs for pooches orthe podographs Parafest number four in Michigan that's
coming up in two weeks. Ican't believe. I gotta get my craft

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together and start getting ready for that. So Tim, Oh and Tim,
the last time he was on ourshow, we learned how to pronounce his
last name because we always called himMail right because phonetically that's so it's stilled.
So and how long did I I? You know, we were calling
him that for forever and then finallyhe was to correct us like a year

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and a half later. So TimMiley is the founder of Foxy's Paranormal Team
in Michigan. He is also um. He also has a wonderful story,
and he is the founder and creatorof the Potographs. So let's welcome to
Tim onto the show. Tim,if you're ready, give me a thumbs
up. All right, I justwant to make sure you doing, sir.

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I'm better now after that big buildup. I was really hoping you
were going to pronounce it wrong again. UM, my job one correction,
Foxity per Normal Team. Unfortunately I'min Wisconsin, and oh I apologize.
Okay, yeah, he's in Wisconsinright there. Because I can't pronounce Jay's

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last name, you know, SoTim, we know they do events together.
That's why I'm my big TV uphere for those Jay's last name either
And then I finally got it rightfor the event. Okay. But in
my defense, I'm going to say, and the association I've ever had with
you has been Michigan. It hasbeen. It's all your podagraphs, all

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the Michigan Paracon, It's all beenin Michigan. I do. I do
a lot in Michigan because mostly Wisconsinsucks. Um, you know the episode,
but yeah, I mean the lasttime I was on the show,

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we talked a lot about the factthat you stalked me at go into the
bathroom at Michigan PA. Does thatI think half our guests tonight, Yeah,
and here the hell out of me. Hey. We became friends after
that, So basically it was deadthat I caught outside the ladies room.
Don't take her, you can't stealher. Thunder I cut you coming in.

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I was on my way to thebathroom, and that's yeah, but
I didn't know that we were justsucking in. But the look of sheer
tar or a horror in your facewhen I called you out and said hello
to you and you were like,what the hell? Because I kind of
I kind of like it when peopledon't know who I am, so like
when I go to an epend,I'm like, everybody there is you know,
everybody there knows me. That stillis kind for me, but um,

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I guess at some point I willprobably have to get used to that.
Yes you should. Such is thelife of a famous man. Um.
Sorry, I can't help but makefun of myself, but uh yeah,
thank you for having me on.Thanks for thanks for having all of
us on here. Then the restof us are going to be on here
a little bit, and thank youfor being a part of Potographs, parafus

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for oh, thanks for having me. I am super excited. Cannot wait,
cannot wait. It's gonna be awesome. Yes, So tell us how
how was it born? You know, tell us your story? How how
did this all come about? Soeverybody grabbed the tissues and uh, and
I'll get into it. I'll tryto keep it a little brief because I
know we can other people coming onand I don't want to take up all

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their time too. But it reallystarts in two thousand and six. I
had purchased a home that I'm innow, and I always wanted a dog,
and I ended up here by myself, and that was part of the
reason that I was really having somepersonal issues. Just things weren't real great
for me at the time, andI was suffering from you know, what

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I would later realize was depression.At the time, I thought it was
just sad coming out of a relationship, not my idea, Having a house
to pay for by myself, notmy idea, And but I tried to
make the best of it. AndI knew coming into this house that I
wanted to get a dog. I'dalways wanted a dog of my own,

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and I had lived in apartments andduplexes and and it just wasn't a possibility
up until I got this home.I went online and looked for a yellow
lab. That's what I had myeyes on, and I ended up finding
a lab pit bull mix. Umlooked like a small, little yellow lab.

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And his story was that he wasbeaten so badly that they rescued him
from the home, the shelter atgoing in and taking him because somebody had
reported it. And when I initiallycalled, they wouldn't let me come see
him because he didn't like men.That's what I was told. Um.
And I always say this tongue incheek, but I told them famously,

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I'm not a normal man. Andfinally gave and let me come and see
him. And uh, they satme down in a room and I got
down on a knee, still talkingor not. Um down on a knee.

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They sat me in a room andI got down on a knee and
they opened up this this door,and all I can say it was it
was like a room full of kennels, and it just it seemed to go
on forever. And the volunteer walkeddown and unlocked the kennel that at the
time Striker was in. That washis name, and he came out and

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he went the wrong way. AndI always joked that if you knew Murray,
he never really did anything right thefirst time, So that was classic
Murray. And as soon as theyturned him around, though, he saw
me and he broke into a fullsprint and jumped into my arms, and
you know, I love at firstsight, you know that that was my

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dude. And they let me takehim outside and I played with him for
like an hour, and it wasjust an instant, instant connection. It
was time to go, and ofcourse I couldn't adopt him that day.
They wouldn't let me take him home, so when I left, he was
still outside and I remember the visionof him just looking at me as he
was up against the fence, justlike, what did I do wrong?

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And it was so sad. Itwas a forty five minute drive home and
I cried the entire time. Twoweeks later, I finally got to go
get him, and I'll never forgetthe excitement he had when he got into
the car, and just going fromside to side and taking everything in and
watching everything and got him home.And a part of the story I didn't

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tell is I was experiencing paranormal activityin the home, in my new home,
voices, footsteps, arguments in mybedroom closet and at the age of
thirty one, something I'd never dealtwith before. I brought Murray into the
home and he instantly followed what Iwas hearing, and for the first time

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in well about a month, Ididn't feel crazy. That gave me my
sanity back because another living creature wasfollowing what what I was hearing. He
and I we were best buddies fromthe beginning. And I was still battling
everything that I was battling, andI remember so many nights where I would

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cry myself to sleep on the floorand I couldn't explain it, and I
didn't talk to anybody about it atthe time, because back in two thousand
and six, guys didn't talk aboutthis stuff. You just kind of dealt
with it. And then one nightin January two thousand and seven, I
sat in my bathroom at the largestknife I had in the house, and

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I went through each person in mylife one by one and came up with
a reason why it would be okayif I wasn't here anymore, why it
would be better if I wasn't here. And as I was about to do
the unthinkable, I felt something onmy left arm and I looked down and
it was Murray's chin. And thefirst thought that crossed my mind was what

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happens to him if I do this? Like he's finally found happiness and I
couldn't do that to him, andI grumbled to the floor, and that
night he saved my life. It'sone of those things where if he wouldn't
have been there to snap me outof it, I know I wouldn't be
here anymore. There's not a rationalthought in your head when you're going through

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this stuff. And I thank Godevery day that somebody sent me him.
We, like I said, we'rebest friends, but from that moment on,
we were father and son. Therewas no dog, there was no
owner. Every day I would Iwould lean down and I would pick up

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his ear and whisper thank you.I've never loved anything in my life more
than him. I've never been closerto anything in my life than him,
and you know, he's my reasonfor still being here. But two thousand
twelve into twenty thirteen, some thingshappened for me within the paranormal field.

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I was getting some opportunities. Ihad filmed for a paranormal witness and the
word kind of got out and Istarted to get opportunities and offers to come
in and speak at events, andalong with that comes to table. And
I didn't have anything at that tableat the time. I was married,

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and I was married to a photographer. So the idea was, let's take
photos of Murray and I and we'llhave Murray potographed them, and we have
a stamp. I still have thestamp to this day. That's the original
one. And Murray would stamp thephotos and you can see him actually over
my shoulder here some of the originalones, and I would, you know,

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personalize them. It was we'd sellthem for ten dollars, and the
first event we did, we soldone and we raised ten dollars. It
was pretty helmb but eventually it wouldstart to grow and the first event that
really got behind it was a littletraverse parafest and John cass Jackie Cassidy,
and they started to actually advertise thatI was going to be there raising money

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for Northern Michigan Animal Rescue Network,And that was a big part of it
for me too, is we hadto raise money for a shelter in the
area of the event, because ifit's local, it means more to the
people there. I could go andraise money for the event or for the
shelter in my hometown everywhere I goand people would kind of be like,

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well, why did we want todo that, So it was important for
that aspect of it also. Butso it started to grow, it started
to build, and then John actuallyasked me, it's like, we should
do an exclusive event where all ofthe ticket sales go to the shelter.
And I remember telling John because hewanted it just to be him and I

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and they said, I don't thinkanybody's gonna buy ticket to come see you
and I John, And we oversoldthe building and the first exclusive event we
raised seven forty one dollars. Fastforward passed forward to last September and we
went over one hundred thousand dollars tototal since twenty thirteen. And I'm gonna

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warn people because we're gonna celebrate anann Arbor because I really didn't celebrate it.
I was just kind of numb andI didn't know what to think.
And I remember thinking to myself,well what now. You know? It's
like, we got to this pointand it was everybody's goal and we accomplished
it, and now what m InOctober twenty nineteen, Murray passed away.

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Passed away in my arms. Heactually had a stroke at home and then
went into a grandmall seizure and Icarried him to the car and we got
we got to the Vets office andthey got him to the point where he
was calm, and I got totell him everything I wanted. Thirteen and

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the most fantastic years of my life. And I remember telling him that he
needed to go find my dad,he needed to go find Grandpa, and
that he had to let me knowhe was okay, otherwise I was coming
to look for him. And that'sjust how it sounds. I didn't want

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I didn't want to be here withouthim, and I certainly didn't want to
think that he was alone. Sohe needed to let me know. And
that night was the most ridiculously badnight of my life. I have never
felt that kind of emotional pain.I woke up the next morning to five
messages from five mediums, and everymessage started with the same sentence. Murray

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needs his dad to know that he'sokay, and he kept up his bargain.
So that's why I'm here. That'swhy I still push forward. That's
why I deal with the stress ofthese events. And eventually I smile and
I hug everybody and I tell themhow much I love them because they have

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made my dream of creating a legacyfor Murray come true. And that's the
biggest part about potographs that people needto understand. These events aren't about me.
They're about Murray. They always are. His face is all over everything
and it always will be. He'sbeen gone for three and a half years

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now, and it's still the greatestpain I've ever gone through in my life.
And that's no disrespect to my father, because I lost my father very
young too. But like I saidearlier, I've never loved anything like I
love Murray. And you know,the paranormal field wrapped their arms around this
whole entire thing, and they wouldn'tlet it fail. And we got to

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this point now, and there arefantastic people that give their time to this
event and just kind of gave methe purpose in life. And here we
are, I mean, we getto go and when we do the event
next week Friday, we get togo and hang out at the shelter and
see the people and the pets thatwe're raising money for. The last time

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I was in that area, therewas a there was a dog there that
had been there for almost a year, and I took some photos with her
and her name is Zirah I think, and she was a pit and I
posted her all over my social mediaand within two weeks she at home.
Awesome, and that you know thatright there too is Murray's legacy because we

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had a we had a hand infinding that dog at home. So I'm
just I'm insanely proud of what we'veaccomplished. It's a community effort, it's
a group effort. And Christie,I can't wait for you to get there
and experience it and feeling because it'sit's like it's unlike any event that you've

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ever been to. It really is. I can't wait. It's amazing.
And the friend that's coming with meto help me with everything, she's a
what amazing and she's going to fitright in, and so I know she's
she too, is going to takea lot from it and have a lot
to offer. So it's going tobe it's gonna be awesome. How can
I not be. She's got someskills and he's got game. We'll just

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say that. Yeah. Wow,that's an amazing story. Thank you so
much for sharing it with the world. It's takes a lot. I'm glad
you said that. UM. Iposted a picture of Ray, Daisy and
bo last night and I said,these three in my world, and somebody
commented and said, they're kind ofour world too, because you've shared them

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all with us. I have.I've shared Murray with the world, and
I couldn't be more proud of that. But there are sometimes when I kind
of don't want to kind of wraphim in my arms because before he was
everybody else as he was mine andjust the best friend and the best son,

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the guy I could ever have.UM. And if I ever tell
this story and I don't choke up, but I don't start crying, that
it's probably time for me to startfinding something else to do. But I
guarantee you go back and listen toany interview I've ever done. The last
forty minutes of the interview, I'mjust sniffling the entire time. So yeah,
there's nothing wrong with him. That'sokay. My whole other room on

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the other side of my wall,here's that's all to my great Danes that
we showed and you know us fortherapy and everything like that. You know,
that's that's my dog room. Closer, my my crazy as you're here
the other two usually behind me inthe podcast. There any other room tonight
so we can talk. If not, Vito will be sitting on my lap
and I won't be able to touchany She's still recovering from knee surgery,

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so she'd definitely later cross my fronthere. But yeah, brotherhood, appreciate
what you're doing there. Um,thank you awesome. I did put the
link for your website in there,and I also wanted to put in their
folks to rememberin eight you know,if you're in the US, is that

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suicide crisis lifeline as well? Please? Um is eight nine eight eight nine
eight because you have no that's becauseI wanted to make sure it was accurate.
I wanted okay, Yeah, Iwent and copied it right from from
the net so awesome. UM,so we got some possible folks coming in

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we do so tell us about theevents. So when you put together these
events and you know what's your goalat these events now as far as like
the people and the events within theevent that you have going on and all
the different activities and things that well, this is the biggest event we've ever
attempted. And quite honestly, that'snot intimidating at all the stress that goes

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with doing this. I'm naturally justa warrior. I want everything to work
out the best it can. Andwhen we decided to do the event here
and go bigger, go home.The first person I called was John's office.
And I've known John for about adozen years and I've always considered John

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a friend. And when I calledhim and he picked up the phone,
first of all, I said,I can't believe you answered the phone.
And secondly, secondly, I said, and I remember because it was emotional
because I do look up to John. I asked him. I said,

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I think it's about time we haveyou involved with potographs because Murray needs a
godfather. Oh and uh John.John instantly said yes, um, And
I actually talked to him about aweek and a half ago, and uh,
you know he's just he's a wealthof knowledge and you know he's a

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good friend. He's also a grumpyold man. I think that's why we
get along, and Tim Sean getalong so well then too, Right as
I get older, I am agrumpy old man myself. Oh whatever all
the time. So don't worry aboutit. I mean we got you know,
we got John Zaphis coming in.Dustin Perry has been a staple.

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Oh he's all. He's another anotherwonderful person. Yeah, there's a there's
a lot of first timers. Rob'sgoing to be on the show here in
a little bit. He's a firsttime. Christie, you're a first timer.
Um. If I try to gothrough everybody, I'm going to forget
somebody. So I don't want todo that. But we've got some fantastic,
wonderful, excellent people that are goingto be there. And there's a

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lecture room and a gallery room.Um. The other the other lady that's
going to be on here in asecond is Deberus and she's doing a gallery
reading, as are you. Um. Just uh, a wonderful, wonderful
opportunity to raise money for the HumaneSociety of Hern Valley UM. And the
reason we pick them is because TimWoolworth lives in the area. That's where

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he adopted his puppy from. AndI got a chance to tour, like
I said earlier, that building andjust excellent, excellent people and the dogs
they are in their care are welltaken from care of it, and just
came away very very impressed and wantedto help them. So that was the
reason we came to Anna Harbor.Also selfishly, if you look behind me,

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that's the big house. That's MichiganStadium. I am going to drop
by there on Thursday and knock onthe door and see if they'll let me
come in. But yeah, it'suh. At the end of the weekend,
there will be a sense of reliefbecause this is this is the biggest

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event I've ever tried to do,and there is a lot of stress that
goes into it. Um. Butalso at the end of the weekend,
I think we're going to have agood number for the shelter, and I
think there'll be a lot of pridethere and I hope to keep the bar
open because I'll have to kind ofrelax and let loose a little bit.

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I'm not I'm not a huge drinker, but I gotta feeling I'm gonna need
a couple after this weekend. Ohthat's wonderful, all right, So what
do you think we have? Sothe two people, we have the next
stage ready to come on. Sorry, I guess you know how my voice

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gets one, you know, wheneverI need to go live when when I'm
not. It's fine, But they'rewonderful. Dan Class is also somebody that
was going to be joining us.Unfortunately he may or may not pop on
here. He is actually filming ordoing something with a show and their time's
got changed, so he is obligatedto that. So we're hoping that he'll

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pop on. But we do haveDeb and we do have Rob here.
So Deb Darue is a medium researcher. She's also the owner and founder of
Mystical Awakenings Radio and she's just anall around awesome lady and just an amazing
person. So then we have thespirit medium mister Rob Thompson, and he

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is the producer of the Ghost Finders. So please welcome special guests. All
right, I'm too Hi, everybody, how are you? I'm mattered now?
Thank you for letting me get throughthe crying. I would have my

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eyes I was. I'll tell youwhat, I don't know how many times
I've heard that story and there's novaccination for it, because I was just
literally the point of bowling and Ihad to go and leave and just wipe
my eyes because because I just wantto hug you to bits right now.
Tim, You know, I mean, you're just such an amazing human being.

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And I don't think there's anybody onearth that that that knows or has
met you, or or have heardof you that would disagree with me.
Um, And so thank you,uh yeah for yeah making my eyes look
like an albino jack rabbit kind ofthing. I'm using all these floodlights so

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I don't have to try eyes open. Oh my gosh. So you know,
Dev is a veteran in like umTim was saying, Rob, you
and I are the rookies here withthis particular event, So UM you,
it doesn't matter to me who goesfirst, who wants to talk about you
know, we want to know aboutyou, what you do, what you

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offer, and why you are youknow or have been a part of um
this event and why it's so important. Well so okay, well there was
like a vacuous silence, you know, so it was just like going and
Rob going, um, and well, you know I met Tim uh last

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um October was it? No?October before last? Oh my god?
Where did two years ago? Yeah? Years ago at Dead Con? Yes?
Yes, and um yeah, Ijust you you meet some people and
you immediately just get you know,I don't think you have to be an

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EmPATH or or a psychic. He'sjust people like Tim that you just are
drawn to because they have good positiveenergy. And we just got chatting and
he was just like, rab,I absolutely love your show. You know.
Can I buy every T shirt andevery size you've got. No,
that didn't happen. Um, buthe he When I when I found out,

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you know about told me about thecharity and about what he'd been doing.
It was just right off. Ithought I was just like, man,
man, there's there's someone to ethicallyand morally aspire to, you know,
just truly. Um. And thenI got to know him, you

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know, and I didn't think thatmuch, you know, but um,
I'm just kidding, but but he'sHe and I chatted some and and we've
talked back and forth a few timessince, and I'm gonna be having him
on the show on season twelve.Um, because well he's Tim Miley.

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Sorry when the name correctly, Andit's easy, it's easy. I just
have to think Flowers Miley, Yes, Miley Flowers number one. But um,
but for me, you know,UM, it's been quite a journey.
Um. I only came out asa medium, um five years ago.

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Um, and for all my life, I pushed it way out you
know, out there. Um Iwas. I was raised in the UK
and rural England, little village.Um, a lot of bullying going on,
you know. So it was thelast thing that I was going to
do was say, oh, wouldyou like some more fuel of that fire?

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By the way I talked to deadpeople, you know, that's that
that wasn't going to be a goodplan. So I literally just pushed it
out of my out of my Um. I denied it, if you will.
And that was tough because I grewup in a two hundred year old
manor house in rural England and justmet some rather interesting people you could say,

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um, that are no longer ofthis plane. UM. Fast forward,
you know, I moved to Europeand moved to the States twenty twenty
five years ago and gradually started incorporatingit into what was then the show.

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You know, really only five seasonsin because because I just didn't have the
guts, I didn't have the gutsto do. I mean, I friend
of mine called me up, DerekAcora, Um, God rest his soul,
and he said, Rob, putyour big boy pants on. This
is about more than your ego.All right. If you're worried about what

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people think, number one, you'rein the wrong business for television. You
know, forget it. You know, grow a big you know, grow
a set. So I grew aset, I came out and I've been
UM. Over the last couple ofyears, have been studying with Diete Renee
UM, who has been a fantastis a fantastic mediumship master teacher who studied

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under UM Lisa Williams UM at lilyDale. And yeah, it's it's just
really been an extraordinary UM beginning ona journey that has it means so humbled
to meet some of the most extraordinarilytalented people UM not just in in in

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the paranormal, para, spiritual,metaphysical, but to be part of this
community of deeply caring um people,individuals sort of part of this big,
huge family um as just really humblingexperience and M and Tim is just the

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shining example of everything that encapsulates thosevalues. I couldn't agree more, Robert.
So welcome Daniel, class voice everytime. Everybody, good filming.

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But have you know we're we're ontime actually, which is great, awesome.
So for those of you know,we're going to give Dan a quick
um, a quick introduction. SoDan is um the owner and operator of
the Hinsdale House in Hinsdale, NewYork, and he is also working with

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rob on ghost Finders. Well,enjoy what we do. Awesome, that's
and that's all that matters, right, that's the most important thing. That's
wonderful. So, and Dan isalso a veteran, So I'm not a
veteran in the army or anything likethat in the paranormal field. Make sure

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yes, sorry, yes, yes, he is a veteran paranormal investigator,
a veteran of photographs events. Exactly, yes, exactly, yes, for
sure. And I know you havevery limited time, so I'm gonna let
you go next. Um, youknow, so tell us about yourself,

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tell us about what you do andhow you get to know Tim and why,
um, you know, join theevent is so important to you.
I mean Tim's message. I meanI met Tim at an event in Michigan
and we clicked and uh, youknow, after hearing him speak about his

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dog and everything that he's been throughin his life, you can't help but
feel touched by that, you know, like you can't help I mean if
you go, if you sit downand listen to Tim talk and you leave
that arena, you know, becauseit feels like it's an arena, you
know. But if you leave thatthat talk not feeling just having a pulling

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your hearts pulling your hearts during,then I don't there must be something wrong
with you. Um. And ofcourse, you know, like we we
all we all have animals, youknow, we all have you know,
cats, dogs, different types ofpets and things like that, and you
know, we we all know they'rethey're part of our families. And uh,
it's it's such important. You know. I've rescued two dogs, um,

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and I have I just got anew puppy. I just love him
to death, a golden doodle cute. He's my buddy. Um. But
yeah, I mean, it's it'sjust it's the cause is great, you
know, to help all these animalsout, you know, I mean,
what what's your what's your total upto Tim so far ray On hundred thousand

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and six unbelievable, yea. Soto keep carrying this on and to continue,
you know, the legacy for himand and and help with whatever we
can help with, it's important tome. You know, We've been through
so much, done so much,and when you have a chance to give
back, you know, you jumpat that occasion to do it. You

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know. I'd like to point outI've had the chance to do two photographs
events at Hinsdale House and the last, the last event we did, Dan
was there with us, and uhI got to tell my story around the
fire pit and for a lot ofpeople it was their first time hearing it.
And I remember Dan looking at meand going, damn it, I

(41:05):
gotta hug you. But it's folkslike Dan that you know. He never
charged me a dime for him ZelHouse to do the event. I think
that's important for people to Dan hasbeen a friend of the charity for quite
some time now, and I justI consider Dan a very, very good

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friend and just thankful for everything he'sdone for me and for photographs and for
Murray likewise, Plus we all havea love for wrestling too, and yes
we can. We have a lot. Tim and I have a lot to
talk about. When we're together.It's like it's like we we might haven't
seen each other for a few months, but when we get together, it's
like we just saw each other yesterday. You know, that's the type of

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friendship we have. And there's somuch to talk about and so much to
catch up on, and it's justfun. You know, his events are
fun. Being being with Tim.It's fun. And I think this event
that we're doing is gonna be amazing. It's gonna be look at look at
the people that are going to bethere. How can you not want to
be there? You know, it'sgonna be so much fun, so much,
so much there you go, lookat that unbelievable. Murray's gonna be

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there in hurt. Oh yeah,absolutely, spirit will be strong. So
we're gonna We're gonna do whatever wecan do at that event to make as
much money as we can for thischarity. You know, whatever it takes,
I'm gonna be out there I'm gonnabe shaping my legs and I will
be out there on the street corner. If I have to bring in about

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a dollar fifty, probably probably lessthan that, Rob, thank you.
It's account so you know in trouble. Am I gonna be in trouble when
I get there, I'll protect toChristy. There have been a few events
where I am said, hey,i'll work if we get to enough money,

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I'll have to do something where ifwe get to a certain dollar amount,
I'll put those dogs luggings back on. There's there's pugs in all the
right places, if you know whatI mean. We've got a question from
our audience. If you can't jointhe event, is there a way to
donate to the cause. If yougo to Potographs for Pooches dot com,
there's a donate button right on thehome page there and any little bit helps,

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and we'll be thankful for anything youcan do, and thank you so
much for you. I'll put thatlink in in one second. Yes,
that's amazing, that's awesome all right, Miss dub Oh wow, where do
I begin? You know? Iwant to say, first half, I

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love you, Tim Miley, Ilove you too. When and I love
you guys too. Rap It's niceto me too. Dan. It's good
to see you again. Christy andMikey guys were at thanks for doing this.
I met Tim, I think intwo thousand and fifteen at a little
Traver's Bay Arifast. We didn't clickright away. He was quiet, and

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I was like, you know,I just I had this sense because Tim
was a little insecure at that time. I thought it was ego, but
it wasn't. It was Tim beinginsecure. But he walked by my table
and set down a Reese's Peanut buttercup, and that's my favorite candy in
the world. So from that momenton, that's been my best But but

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so I met him at that event, and then I went back in two
thousand and sixteen and I actually heardhim speak. I was too busy in
fifteen to hear him speak, butwhen he spoke, See, it's hard
for me to even talk when Italk about it, I lost it.
I lost it because I have neverseen a man so loving with animals and

(45:19):
so willing to give of himself forthe betterment of all of these fur babies
who need us, who need help. And he and Murray teamed up and
started doing these events, and Iwas I was floored. So in two

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thousand and seventeen was the first yearthat I actually spoke at one of the
Potographs events, and I've been thereevery since and totally totally in love with
the event, totally in love withwhat Tim and Murray do. And Murray

(46:02):
is not past tense. He remindsme often if I say the word was
when I talk about him, Iget scolded. He is still very,
very present. He's at every event. And I have to tell a quick
little story that because of Potographs,Tim has done many events in Michigan for

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Northern Michigan Animal Rescue and they areamazing people. They help so many,
so many animals. And this pastyear, my son got a little puppy
after I told him, no,we have a house full of dogs and
people, no more puppies. Whilehe came home with this teeny little white

(46:52):
pit bull who kind of looks likeMurray in a way. But he was
the cutest little thing, and ofcourse I couldn't say now, and I
fell madly in love with him.Well by the time he was about him
two months old, he was stillI mean, he should probably should have
been with mamma. He had hegot parvo and was very sick, and

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I posted about it and I wascontacted by by Northern Michigan Animal Rescue and
said, deb get the help thatyou need for him. We're going to
save this baby. So we did. It's very expensive to take a puppy

(47:39):
to an animal hospital when they haveparvo. So in the middle of the
night, they were contacting me saying, go, just go, I'm going
to send you the money. Wewent through an awful lot, but we
saved him. Tim is the GodBob he has. He won my heart.

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He was so sweet that he evensent a few gifts for Blaze.
And Blaze is now ten months oldand just full of life and love and
kisses. And he knows a lotabout his uncle Tim, his goddaughther,
and he knows a lot about Murray. We talked about Murray daily. So
this is one life, you know, and I think about that so often

(48:29):
now, one life that was savedbecause of Tim. How many others,
hundreds, thousands, possibly millions,I mean, we don't know. He's
done so many and yeah, Iknow, I know, Like with the
money that we donated to our localpit bull rescue from the Hinsdale House ones

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firsthand because I actually got to godeliver them the cash, you know,
or the check, and I immediatelysaw that, um, two dogs from
a disaster down in the South,we're getting brought up here with that money.
Um a puppy mill that got shutdown, all those their teams got
rescued, and also it helped payfor a surgery and save another puppy that

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was rescued. Like just unbelievable,like the amount of assistance that that provided,
and that wasn't even it. Imean, there was still money left
over, and but I saw firsthandwhat the funds were going to right away,
and uh, you know, it'samazing. That is amazing. I
really wish I could have made thatevent. I think I had either a

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party or I had another obligation alreadythat day. If I have anything to
say about it, there'll be anotherone, so awesome, let me know,
because I will definitely be there.I think, Yeah, we'll figure
it out. We'll figure something.That's amazing. And to the audience,
you know, I'm gonna ask youguys, get on here, share this

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out, because not only is Tim'sevent, but the shelters that are out
there that need the help right noware so important. You know. Yeah,
I raised and showed purebred Great Danesfor years, but I also have
rescues. I've got to rescue Germanshepherd that was caged for for six months

(50:21):
of her life and fed god knowswhat to keep her under control. So
getting hurt set So Tim, youdoing this is amazing and you folks all
going out there and helping with theevent, But God bless you all.
I mean, folks get pets andthey don't realize that the responsibility for that

(50:42):
life is there. And you know, even the Humane Society folks I work
with up here, it's just Idon't know how they do their job,
going in those houses and shutting thosemills down. You know, it's it's
it's crazy. And especially those breeds, the pit sidden, the mastiff breeds
that are they're used for fighting andstuff like that. They get put into

(51:04):
the shelters because they shut those thingsdown. I mean, so God bless
y'all. When when when that wastalking about Blaze, Um, I shouldn't
have been caught by surprise, butI was. Um. It was when
Murray passed, I kept all ofhis toys because I couldn't imagine getting ready
at any of them. And whenI knew that Blaze was going to be

(51:25):
okay, I grabbed two of Murray'stoys and I sent them two blades because
I felt like it was for himto have something of Murray's. And uh,
yeah, I got pictures of Blazeand it's awesome, and uh it
was. It's good to know thatyou were able to do something. But
we got to give credit to Rosemaryand Boots. They were the ones,

(51:47):
you know, that decided that themoney we had donated and should go to
death and save that that puppy andwhat a happy story with that, depending
you know, you know, youknow, you know, we talk about
all the animals in the animal linesthat have been saved and you know,

(52:07):
bettered through your efforts. But Ithink the other side of this too is
exactly what you went through. Howmany how many people have been saved?
Turn the tables, how many peoplehave also be anymore? Really, you

(52:31):
know, just to think somebody whowho they can change the demeanor of a
person, They can change probably's life. You know, that's how important they
are to serve, you know,depending on what people are going through depression,
all different types of I mean thedog, the dog that we just
got was from my son and myGod, it's it's helped them so much

(52:53):
with you know, just being ableto care for an animal and love an
animal and have something that loves youwholeheartedly no matter or what you go through
or what type of day you're having. He's always going to lick your face
and love you. And uh,it's that's that's the difference that an animal
can make in your life. Youknow, that's the difference for animals too.
It's unconditional love. You know,humans aren't aren't all priving to that,

(53:16):
you know. Um, you knowwhen I when I before I came
to the States twenty five years ago, for eight years, I lived in
the Netherlands in Amsterdam, and Iwas there for maybe a year or two,
and I came to meet a coupleof people who worked for the Animal

(53:38):
Ambulance of Amsterdam, which is calleddeer An Ambulance in Dutch UM. And
they they this organization had purchased threeambulances UM registered with the with the city
UM all volunteers. They had bunkbeds so that there was always someone there

(53:58):
if there was an emergency, andAmsterdam has the biggest amount of stray cats
and dogs of most European cities.Huge, it's just unbelievable, sou and
also a very very large old community, old people's community. So so basically

(54:21):
what they did was they did somethingthat was very much fulfit what needed fulfilling,
and that was for people not justin emergencies, but for older people
who are living on their own.We could come and pick up their animals,
take them to the vet, getthem treated, and then bring them
back and then drop them back off. And it was purely donations. And

(54:45):
I did that um with them forfive just under five of the eight years
that I lived there, and itwas just it was just five of the
best years of my life. Becauwas you would meet you would you would
you make it a difference because you'reyou're maybe with someone while the last for

(55:12):
the last minutes of their of theirtheir world coming to an end. You
know, maybe they they are there, you know often a husband or or
or wife has passed and um yeah, just being there, um and making
a difference, Um, that's that'sthat was amazing to me. Um and

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um yeah, so I just wantyeah, I don't mean to be a
bum, but I have to getcalling. Yeah, I figured, So
you know, what can you tellus quick? Dan? What are you
doing at the event? What canpeople look for when with you at this
event? Uh? Well, Imean I can talk about Hinsdale House.
I can talk about death Walker,which i'm aduction manager for. UM,

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I can talk about the ghost Finders. I can talk about things that have
happened in my life, things thathave happened in your life. I love
listening to people's stories and look forwardto meeting new people and meeting up with
the old friends as well. Awesome, and I can't wait to see you
all, can't We can see you. I'll see you next Thursday. But

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night you had mentioned earlier about thepeople that photographs helps and I wanted to
share two real quick stories if Icould. You don't have to be so.
I did an event last year inIllinois last February for Rob and Terry,

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and uh did my my present dation. And I never really notice who's
in the audience because I don't reallymake a lot of eye contact because secrets
out. I'm not not real fondof public speaking. UM. I get
through it because it's important. ButI told my story and I got done,

(57:05):
and between the next speaker, amother and a daughter came up to
my table, and the daughter wasfairly young, and the mom looked at
me and she just said, mydaughter wants me, wants to tell you
something. And the daughter looked atme and she said, my cat Phoebe
is my Murray. And that brokemy heart. Then a little girl would

(57:30):
have to think like that, butit makes you understand that your words mean
something. Fast forward to last Septemberwhen I did didn't event in Missouri.
I did my presentation and it wasbrand new for everybody because I'd never done
a presentation in Missouri. And afterwardsthere were a line of people that wanted

(57:55):
to hug me. And I willnever get sick of that. I'll never
get sick of that response. AndI made it through the line and I
came to a teenage girl who,if I had to guess, was fourteen
fifteen somewhere in that area, andshe was sobbing, and I just went

(58:17):
up to her and I grabbed herand like held on to her like I'd
known her forever, and we wentoutside and we talked and she's like I
knew there was a reason I wassupposed to be here and just hearing the
story. And you know, oneof the things I say all the time
is, you know, like youlook at my life from the outside,

(58:38):
and there's nothing for me to bedepressed about. You know, but when
I when I share my story andwhat I go through to this day,
I think it gives those folks hopethat hey, look at this guy.
He's got but by all all,by all rights, you look at me
from the outside and you think,boy, he's got a lot going for

(58:59):
him. But I still struggle.But if I can struggle and push through
and fight every day, then socan so can everybody else. And I
did. I did a radio coverlike ten years and I ended the show
every time with tomorrow can't be betterif you're not here, and a thing

(59:21):
where you just want to be therefor everybody. I was naive when I
started telling my story. I didn'tknow that it was going to touch people
the way it does. I honestlydidn't know. And when when I started
to realize the impact I could haveon people with my words, Um,
you know, I always say it'sMurray's story because it is. I'm just

(59:42):
the human that gets to tell it, and it's his legacy. I get
uncomfortable when I get too much creditfor this stuff, um, because as
I as I tell the story,none of this happens unless he walks into
that room. So this is hisstory. To this day, the story
is still isn't over. It's allMurray's story. And uh, you know,

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I still live every day in mylife for him. And that's the
way we're going to continue to doit. Um. A lot of people
have great things to say about me, and I'm going to bring a bit
of levity to the to the showhere so we can laugh a little bit.
I'm still the guy that ten minutesbefore the show was suffering from diarrhea
and not knowing if I would makethe show. Oh, we weren't going

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to go. Literally, the pointof me saying that, the point of
me telling you is I'm no,I'm not special. I don't see I
honestly look in the mirror and isthe guy that is lucky enough to come

(01:00:51):
and and and if I'm being honest, part of depression is wanting to make
everybody else happy and wanting to makeeverybody else laugh. So I do that
at my own expense. So now, if you leave this show and the
only thing you remember Tim was sufferingfrom flu like symptoms, I hope you'll

(01:01:13):
remember Murray. I hope you'll rememberthat Rob and Dad and Dan will all
be at photographs Parafest four and we'regonna have a great time. And I
got to tell you, I amI get so stressed out before these events,
but my god, I'm not lookingforward to this just to be with
my people again, my friends andsee them because I haven't seen a lot

(01:01:35):
of these folks in like six months, and that means a lot to me.
U. So yeah, I thinkeverybody's saying these wonderful things about me,
But at the end of the day, I'm just the guy that sits
in his shorts watching football all day. If I can, and I'm not,

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I will tell you who is special, and that's the little guy Murray.
He's he. You'd be hard pressedto get me to admit that anything
in this world is better than him. I wish I could have met him.
Deb got to meet him. Yeah, and he's absolutely wonderful. When
I met Murray, he came rightup gave me a kiss. Of course,

(01:02:20):
I asked for it. You know, I leaned down and you could
just feel the love. And youknow, rab was talking about the animals
with this unconditional love that was Murray. I mean you could feel it everywhere.
And it wasn't only pretend. Headored his adoors. Sorry Murray,
he's daddy. He adores his daddy. But he loves everybody as long as

(01:02:45):
they're good people. He really does. He was or he is. Sorry
Murray. Uh, he had everyrate in the world not to like people
the way he was treated early on. But he didn't mean anybody he didn't
love. And that was the biggestpart. And and the events that I

(01:03:08):
took him to. I had noproblem playing second fiddle to Murray. And
uh, I think I think devilagree. He knew we were all there
for him. Oh he did.He was. He was a ham uh,
not only you know in his inhis uh demeanor, but also in

(01:03:29):
his in his body type because heand I really enjoyed double cheeseburgers. By
the time Murray got pretty old,he had packed down some pounds, but
he um, I H I lovehim. Yeah, there were I think,

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thank God every day for those thirteenyears. So question, why am
I why do I keep seeing thislittle rubber bouncing ball? His favorite His
favorite toy was a football, andI have that up next to his urn.

(01:04:15):
He also it wasn't so much aball. It was just kind of
a squeaky toy that he found inthe yard one day. And I'd still
like to know who did that.But he came back in from going to
the bathroom with his toy in hismouth, and it was from that day
forward he was still proud that hehad found his own toy. But I'm
not so sure about any rubber squeakyballs. I can hear it bouncing.

(01:04:38):
It's like one of those small oneslike he would throw to play catch.
But it's just like a rubber.Yeah, I don't know if that's him,
because, if I'm being honest,he didn't understand the game of fetch.
For all thirteen years of his life. He would bring me. He
would bring me a ball and Iwould throw it and he would look at
him. Why did you do that? Which one of your dogs no plays

(01:05:01):
or has a ball like that?I'm none who anybody else? Can you
anyone else? I can say I'vehad several dogs that have had balls like
that. Thank you? That didn'tsound right, but yeah, great,
but Blaze love Blaze loves a tennisball, so maybe you know it's not

(01:05:30):
really rubber, but it's bounces andhe loves it when you bounce it.
No wrecking ball, No, No, it's the it's the smallest. It's
gonna be one. Hear your dogsor a bunch of your dogs that are
coming forward, because I can hearit. I can hear it on the

(01:05:53):
floor. It's bouncing. Yeah,huh, yeah, that would probably be
my babies. But they're all mybabies. Even when I talk about Murray.
You know, if Tim's Matt thereto take credit, I talk about
Murray like he's, you know,my baby. So those are all my
babies. That's that's that's my momright there. And I have I have

(01:06:21):
to give credit because the entire timeafter my divorce, Um, I would
never leave anybody with anybody, andI would never leave Murray with anybody that
I didn't trust. And I thoughtpotographs was going to be done at that
point, and and Mom said,let me know what weekends you need to

(01:06:41):
go and bring Murray over and I'llwatch him. And uh uh. He
loved his weekends with Grandma he reallydid. And I was actually a little
Travis to a parafest for the lastevent before Murray passed. And Mom doesn't
like to give me bad news.And by that point, Murray was moving

(01:07:03):
pretty slow and uh he would doa lot of laying around, couldn't stand
very well. And I just didn'twant to let him go. And I
got back to her house and thatSunday and Murray got up and was running
circles around me. It was soexcited to see me. And then he

(01:07:24):
passed away the next day. Um, it was like he waited for me
to come home. Um, buthe uh, he loved going to Grandma's.
Grandma spoils my dogs. Uh Rayand Daisy just love going over there
because they know they're going to geta full breakfast. We're talking eggs toast,

(01:07:44):
bacon for breakfast. But uh,I need to I need to like
say that because there's about ten weekendsout of the year that my mom give
up her weekends so that I canand and then we have one week in

(01:08:05):
the year where we're close enough thatMom can come to the event. And
those are the events that I tryto make special for her and make her
understand that She's pretty important to allof this. Um because without her,
I wouldn't be able to do it. Because I I'm not saying anything bad
about people that board their dogs.I just it's not something I can do.

(01:08:25):
I just I have to know whohas my dogs and uh yeah,
so knowing that they're with Grandma andGrandpa makes it a lot easier. So
tell me who Ebany is? Who'sEbany? And why does she love playing?
That's my mom's crazy muck. She'suh yeah, she's She is a

(01:08:49):
lot to handle a lot of times. Um. But she's a sweetheart,
she really is. She's got alot of energy. Um. Yeah,
I scared the crap out of herone time because she was getting out of
control and I grabbed her and Iheld her upside down and she kind of
froze. But yeah, my mom'sgot two dogs and six cats, so

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she loves her animals. I gotmy love of animals from my mother.
Um that's you know, that's whatshe gave me, and that's what I
got from her. And you know, all the nice things that people say
about me or because of that lady, he deserves all the credit. But

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actually, does he have a birthdaycoming? Up or something. Is that
why he's you know, she's amazing. During during COVID when everybody was doing
the drive buys and hawking their hornsfor yeah, I reminded people that my

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birthday was May twenty seventh, andnobody drove past my house. But yeah,
twenty seventh is my birthday. Wellseven is my daughter's birthday too.
Look at back and it's seven daysafter my birthday. Oh cool, very
good. It's a good month.So I've done a lot of talking.

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So I'm going to turn it backover to Robin Debb so you know,
not to Rob, tell us whatare you doing at this at this event?
Then? Where where can people findyou? What are you offering?
What are you going to be?So I'm gonna be um uh dank gallery
um, I believe m four o'clockum. And also and all the way

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through, UM gonna be doing privatereadings and meeting greets um at at out
of booth. So yeah, I'mlooking forward to to about Actually, one
of the things that I enjoy most, especially at a charity event like this,
is it's just it's just really aboutthe people that you meet because there's

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such an overwhelming amount of positive energy. It's it's almost intoxicating. And I
remember, remember, you know,I can't think of a single event that
I've been to where it hasn't reallybeen the case. And that's that's just
sort of almost like a drug,you know. It's just that you want
more and more and more of it. And it's also very conducive to um

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yeah to spirit, um to tolaying the foundations for spirit to come through
because it acts as a giant positive, high vibrational energy UM conduit if you
will, UM. So you know, the best, the best, the
best work that I've done as amedium, I've done at at these at

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these events, and it's just becauseof the intention is just and the vibrational
energy is just so so so highUM. And it's about the cause and
not the ego. That's awesome.Yeah. So I'll be doing private,
private, private booking readings as wellthroughout that I have a little merch and

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be Yeah, I mean lots ofshiny, happy people and I'm really excited
to meet some of these people forthe first time as well. Very cool.
Thank you, miss Debb well willyou've been doing there. I will
be doing the same thing that RABis doing and that you are doing.
Christy. I'll be doing a gallery, but mine is at eleven am thanks

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to Tim. I'm not a morningperson that goes first, but I will
be mostly there loving on people andhaving a great time. I'll do some
private readings. I'll have a table. We have a metaphysical store, so
I'll have a few of our itemsthere, but mostly just it's all about

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the love about, you know,the gathering and talking to people and seeing
Tim, my buddy. Yeah,we're We're also doing I can't remember off
the top of my head what time, but we're going to the Humane Society
of Huron Valley on Friday, UMto visit them. So anybody that's in

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town early enough please come out andhang out with us and go to the
shelter and love on some dogs.And uh, I get a lot of
grief because I never really give thecats any credit. But I'm a dog
guy. Um. But we're gonnalove on the dogs, and like we
did last time I was there,We're gonna share a lot of photos of

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these dogs and hopefully get a lotof them some homes. Isn't it something
like that? No, never dothat to myself. I'd you know.
That's why I'm leaving late Thursday nightfor Friday. It's I think it's at

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like eleven or noon. It's god, okay a little bit. You ever
mentioned that she's at She's at eleveno'clock on Saturday. I guess who's at
ten o'clock on Saturday? Good?Yeah, yeah. But I looked at

(01:14:35):
the lineup and I was like,let's get Todd and I out of the
way. So we're gonna we're gonnago at ten o'clock and then we're gonna
we're gonna turn it over to everybodyelse. And and what a fantastic lineup.
I mean, seriously, seriously,this is an amazing event. There's

(01:14:55):
so many awesome people there. Yes, you know, John Zappa's first time,
Murray's god Daddy, um the firsttime being there. I'm so excited.
I love this guy. He's agrumpy old man, but he's wonderful
and he's wonderful to listen to.And he's also one of the nicest people

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as far as being in the paranormal. Like Tim said, he called him
up. He answers his phone andif you have a problem, I'll tell
you what he is. He isgreat at helping out. He really is.
I was so excited to meet himwhen we went to Michigan a couple
of years off the paracoon, Iwas shaking, girl, Why you follow

(01:15:45):
him to the bathroom? No,no, no, she did drive you
know, did getting where nearest table, just kept doing drive bys. Finally
I had to, you know,do the introductions. You know, jeez,
yeah, I drove. I wasthere. I was at Michigan Parakoon

(01:16:09):
last year and I was walking byJohn and who was talking to somebody.
So I wasn't about to like botherhim, and uh I hear and John's
got a very distinctive voice, soI heard, hey buddy, and uh
I turned around and He's like,come take a damn picture. When John,
when John's episodes to come big adamn picture, you come take a

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damn picture. That's awesome. Hedoesn't have a lot of those little cursed
items falling around. So yeah,you don't want to Yeah, yeah,
one guy, you don't want tomake mad No, no sign the crazy
dolls in the back of your caror something. Every one of those folks
on that poster um has a specialplace in my heart because they're giving their

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time for this event. Um,you know, we're all getting together for
Murray, We're getting together to helpthe animals. Um Richard step Chatanum,
Bill Conkoleski, Christie. They're allfirst timers, you know, along with
Rob. And this is Dan's actualfirst event other than being at the Hinesville

(01:17:13):
House, so he's never really experienceda full autographs event either. So yeah,
it'd be a lot of fun.Yeah. I hope people leave that
event, uh, feeling like theydid something special. Yeah, I already
do, and I will too.I will be doing a gallery and I
will also be doing private ratings,So I'm looking forward to that. Like

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because like Rob said, you know, it is certain events, the energy
is just different. It's just it'sjust the whole environment is that it's one
nucleus, you know what I mean. You said it so well, and
the energy just flows that way becauseeveryone's there for this cause and this reason,

(01:17:58):
this purpose, and they're coming withtheir vibrations already sitting high, you
know, and it just it makesit so much easier. It's just awesome,
you know, because everybody is happyand smiling and just the emotions there.
Although it can also send you anoverload, so you got to be
careful. But you know, Ithink by the end of the day,

(01:18:20):
I'll either be really happy or I'llbe like crying naked in my shower.
I'll be I'll be speaking at tenam, and then I'll be biting my
fingernails the rest of the day.But um, fingernails. In all seriousness.
Um, if we raise some moneyfor the animals and I give about

(01:18:41):
three hundred hugs next weekend, that'llbe a good weekend for me. And
just being around people and getting toshare. And you know that hour I
get to talk. Yeah, Italk a little bit about you know,
the paranormal. I talk a lotabout Murray Todd speaks with me. We
tell the story about how he wasafraid of a bear and he left me
to die. You know all thatcould. I got to meet this guy,

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but he's in the woods and takeoff. I'm just saying, leave
you to bigot. But you know, at the end of the day,
you know, I just, uh, like I said, I hope people
leave that event and they they feellike they've been a part of something special
and it means something to them becauseyou know, if I'm being honestly,
means the absolute world to me,so, um, yeah, I promised

(01:19:35):
I was gonna let Robin deb talkand then I just I won't shut up
so I could listen to you talk. Like, you know, man,
I'd just be like into my writing, into my second box of Kleenex,
and uh, I gotta tell youyou're it's it's such an incredible story that
I just had this idea, youknow how, I just feel like you

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should make an audiobook out of thiswonderful story and the proceeds to towards this
fantastic um. You know, cause, honey, you should say that because
I've been working on this Murray bookand uh, it's a it's a book
being told by me, and thenApril Rone is voicing Murray. She's a

(01:20:20):
fantastic medium, and she's actually tellingMurray's side of the story. And that
book will be available whenever I canstop crying long enough to write the whole
thing. Um. It is venimpossible for me to get through more than
a few paragraphs and just not loseit. But it's going to be a

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special book. Um. I've alsobeen pitching her on the idea of me
working with an animal communicator and solvingparanormal cases. Um, if there's anybody
out there would like you put thisugly mug on the television screen. Uh
but uh yeah, any kind ofany kind of Um, what's the word

(01:21:01):
I'm looking for exposure for potographs I'mwilling to do. It's not so much
like I said about me, It'sit's about him. And whenever I say
him, I always capitalize it becauseto me, Murray is much more than
a dog, and he's much morethan than anything that I've ever encountered in

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my life. He's just that's howespecially is. To me. That's amazing.
There is a question from the audience. Will be another event and is
it Ripping this year? There is. We will be announcing that soon.
The headliners for Ripping this year Septembersixteenth. That's that's a Wisconsin event.

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The headliners this year will be ShanePittman, he's coming back and mister tim
Shaw's making his first appearance in Wisconsin. Those are the headliners and and uh
yeah, we always have a greattime at that event. Afterwards we all
bowl most of the poorly. There'sthat it's Wisconsin. So if there's one

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good, one thing that we're reallygood at Wisconsin, it's beer. Um,
so there's a lot of that flowing. I thought it was cheese.
You know. I will say this. I want to Canada one time for
an event and I ordered milk andthe person I was with actually took it
away from me and said, youdon't want to drink that like you were
used to like the best because Wisconsinis the dairy state. Oh. They

(01:22:35):
were like, you don't want anypart of that milk that they don't have
the laws up here. And Iwas like, thank you for saving me.
But uh yeah, we're good atour cheese. We're good at our
brots. Uh we're good at ourour dairy products and uh yeah. But
you know most you know, it'scold here most of the times. There's

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not a whole lot else to dohere other than sit in the bar.
Uh ice fish. Yeah. Actually, this season's been horrible because we've been
uncomfortably warm. There's not a lotof ice on the lakes here. But
I will say this, starting tonight, we're about to get two feet of
snow. I saw that, soDave Wisconsin. Um, I went to

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the I went to the doctor toget a follow up on my foot,
which which is another story in itself. At the at the doctor. At
the doctor, I convinced the nursewho wrapped my foot tighters so that I
could fit it in a shoe forwhen I have to do the snow blowing,
because otherwise I'm out there with abare foot. Yeah, Tim,

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can I say something real quick?You can't have people to know potographs Parafast
four doesn't mean he's only done fourof these. The potographs Parafast is in
Michigan, so this is well,it's actually his fifth one in Michigan,
but we didn't count them number thefirst one. Actually there's a lot more
than five, because I did afew at a little chart that terrace into

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right, right. So I justwant people to know there's been many of
these done. It's not only numberfour, but it's this type of event
and they used to be how thefirst three or four after Little Piper's Bay
was at Home Lake. Yeah,we did photographs Parafest too the spring after

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Murray passed and I led off theevent and I basically did a one hour
eulogy to him and just talked abouthim. I didn't talk about anything paranormal.
I just told stories about him andwhy he was so important and why
we were there. Yeah. SoI mean it's you come to one of
these events and I guarantee you,if you have any feelings at all,

(01:24:49):
you're gonna cry. Yeah, We'vewe've done We've done so many of these.
I think we started doing them intwenty fifteen, the exclusive events.
Um. So this is our eighthyear of that. M April eighteenth be
the ten ten year anniversary of photographsfor Riches being a thing. Unfortunately,

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most of the money we've raised happenedafter Murray passed. It really took off
after that. Um. I wishhe could have been there for like the
bulk of it. Um. WhenI would come home from events, though,
I would always tell him how wedid, because in my heart I
knew it mattered to him, andI would always tell him how he did.
And he was you know, Iwas so proud, you know,

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just to see him happy. Andand that's I've often said the greatest thing
I've ever done in my life isjust being Murray's dad. And I've been
on a few shows where they havethey have they've introduced me as Murray's dad,
and I'm okay, that's so it'scool. That's that's my hay fever

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is acting up again five minutes.Wow, well I think that's a really
good way. Yes, please please, such a wonderful cause. Yeah,
you do not have to be anywherenear the event, although if you can

(01:26:26):
make the trip go, it's gonnabe a party, clearly, it really
is. People will love it.We always have a wonderful time. Yeah,
but if you can't, please,you know, don't leave. Um
there's a link right there. Mike'sputting the link up. Um you know
anything you can even five dollars,you know, just something and Rob and
and uh, where can folks findyou if they want to find a little

(01:26:51):
bit more information about you? Andyou know we got some you guys got
some awesome folks going. So ifthey want to get some more information,
you know, we've got the posterup here with with the great headliners that
the Tim's got assembled. And uh, my monsters just went outside, so
I apologize for them, but yesthey are. The animals are moving in

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the woods behind me right now,fronted. So where can we find you?
Your both? Just so folcusing cankind of take a look. We
had Tim on before and uh,you know that link to that past episode
and you know we get going hereand I'm gonna mute for a second.
I'll um so so yeah, Imean, I'll you can find me on
social media and at Rob Thompson's SpiritMedium. Um. I do remote zoom

(01:27:39):
readings. Uh, that's call Endleydot com forward slash Rob Thompson's Spirit Medium.
Um and um more than anything else, come and visit me at this
fantastic event and let's let's make it. That's knock this thing right out of
the park in the biggest possible wayand and the biggest tip of the hot

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to Murray and the legacy that helives on in amen. And I can
be found on My books are onAmazon Mystical Awakenings if you type in Mystical
Awakenings Radio where podcast. You canfind us on YouTube KGr A Radio every

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Thursday night. We're on at eighto'clock. Every Friday night, I have
a brand new show called Voices ofContact and that's a pretty interesting one,
very UFO based of course. Thatis Friday night at eight o'clock. And
oh Facebook, Deb Johnson de rusSpelling is on here, so I'm pretty

(01:28:48):
easy to find. So was thatReese's peanut butter cup or Reese's pieces were
getting because oh no, and Iwas waiting to try to get that little
hookie there. It had to ithas to be a peanut butter cup.
Okay, like yeah, but ohyeah, he got me. Did you

(01:29:10):
have one of those Valentine's Day ones? They're like this big the heart ones.
I've never had one of those.It comes with like a vial of
insulin, you know. I saythat because because Heather had um And how
weird is this the pack of twoand they're like the size of a like

(01:29:33):
shield of a Viking shield that Iknow I couldn't I might be able to
try, unfortunately, like everyone,Oh my goodness, well this has been

(01:29:55):
wonderful. The time as always flubut time always flies when you're having fun,
right, So thank you so muchfor joining us, you guys,
I cannot wait to see all ofyou in a week and a week or
two and just it's gonna be sogreat. This is going to be an
amazing event. And this is justwe're gonna bring all the of all the

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healing, all the support, andjust all the all the energy to just
really make this what you what you'reWe're gonna make your vision come true.
Thank you. Yeah see those babies. Yeah, absolutely love past it on.
Yes, So thank you so muchfor joining us, and everybody out
there, thank you for joining usas well. And if anyone wants to

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wait in the bank and chat afterwards, please feel free hang out. If
not, we totally understand, butwe hope you all have a wonderful night
michael Is or anything else. Thankyou all, and I appreciate you guys,
girls, everybody you know, notto be inclusive of everybody these days.
Please go share this, get theword out, help these folks out,

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help Tim, help Marie. Um, let's get the word out and
hold some some wonderful animals. Imean, let's let's let's see that.
And uh and you guys know mypets, my dogs, my parrots,
my fish, they're always why thinkyou know as we can hear view it
in the background now, um,right on, cue. Uh, let's

(01:31:23):
get it out there, let's getthe word out, let's get it spread.
And like I said, if it'snot here and you had missed some
of the show, going back andwe've got Tim's original interview over on spree
Groom Spotify, so you know,on iTunes, So go take a look.
At the listen to those so thankyou all all right, everybody,
have a wonderful evening. Thank youso much. Until next time, stay

(01:31:45):
safe and sample on. All right, Okay, hold everybody, Yeah,
I'm pitting the wrong buttons usual,all right, you know I's it's my
thing, you know,