Where's My Sage_!! Episode #102 Kick Back & Chat

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Hey everyone, it's Tuesday night again. You know what that means, don't
you. It's time to join Mikeand Christy for another episode of Where's My
Sage, a show hosted by asecond medium and a guy on a quest
to find Bigfoot. Together, theywill take you on all sorts of adventures
and not with lots of different people. Christie even gives readings. It's time

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to sit back. No, no, get up and get ready. You
can't sample the universe sitting down.Your hosts are waiting. Come on,
let's go. Good evening, ladiesand gentlemen, and lookome to Where's My
Sage. I'm Mike with my motorpholco host Christine London. Christy, how

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are you doing this evening? Goodevening? I'm well, how are you
not bad? Actually I'm muted myself, so we were definitely rocking that right
for once. You know, thingsare they're coming along. It's been a
couple of weeks since we've been here, and we apologize for, you know,
bouncing around and getting the things outdoing the change of venue. We're

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over on YouTube now, yeah,exclusively winning to see I just posted something
on my Facebook page instead going livesoon on YouTube so let's see who comes
over. Yeah, we're gonna geta message from my mom. Are you
on Facebook? We warned everybody thatwe were going to make the transition,
and uh, I think, comehang out if they want to hang out,

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and you know, I mean wealready so you know, Joe from
Western New York pig Foot was hereright away. A great show last evening
with Yes Sarson and with with Leonfrom big Foot Opa n Again it was
a good show. It was Ilistened to it for a little while.
Yeah foot stuff so and Lissa heso yeah, so it's night. We're

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kind of coming to you or fromfrom the three YouTube from Christie's and where's
my stage? And of course tacticalBigfoot research. Um, you know that's
where we're at. We've got somedo you even know what's to do with
yourself? You don't have like eightother things to say. It was like,
oh, you know, it's it'seasy, but we're still you know,
you can still find the live audioover on uh speaker, Spotify,

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iTunes and every almost all the majorpodcasters and the past you know were we
went over to anchor for a littlebit, but we kind of transitioned back
because we're getting ready to kind ofjoin back up with some friends. I'll
look at us here. I'm actuallymove her to another spot for today,

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so she can stare at us fromover here. Who what? What was
that? Who? What? Melautograph? I got our friend Melanie from
Naked Afraid? So I need toput that in a little safer spot.
So for some reason, these pictures, you know, you use those rapid
hooks state or you know, thenon sticky things. They tend to fall
off my wall for some reason,you will if you use anything. Now,

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I'm sticky, it's gonna fall offyour wall. No, no,
no, the what do you callit? You know what I'm saying that?
So you know, we've we've hada couple, so, you know

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whatever. I can't even think ofname of them. I got a drawer
full when I had the other toolboxhere and I can do my box.
No, they're not glue dots ofthe blue dummy stuff, is it?
No? They're the hooks they've gotthat you pulled a little, the non
stick I'm gonna go look command strips. Yeah, command, Oh mg,

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are you freaking kidding me? Don'tyou ever forgot it? Ever? Forever
bust my chats about forgetting whereever again. I have had you know these,
It's it's been my kind of daytoday. I had some guy walk up
to me It's like, hey,the school together twenty some odd years ago,

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and I'm like, maybe good face, good face? Yeah, all
right, yeah it was probably thatway. Yeah, I mean, yeah
it was. It was a strangeday, yeah. Yeah. But you
know, the last couple of weekshave been been busy for both of us,

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and we've had a lot of thingsgoing on. Um, you know,
we're gonna get into the readings andsome other stuff. Folks, Please
share a like and subscribe. Letyour friends that know that hide over on
Facebook and going where are we?We're over here now. Um, so
you've had some excitement, and whenyou get done with your stuff, I'll
kind of talk about the last coupleof weeks for me and what's going on.

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And we don't have to talk abouta lot to say anything yet I'm
not allowed to say anything about everything. Well what are you talking about?

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I don't know. You had someevents, all right, then we'll go
into my events. So this weekend, wait wait, wait, wait,
we did get to do something together. We did we did. We did,
Yeah, we did. It wasfun. It was fun. Okay,
So Joanna Torriano does a show andshe's a family friend. What are

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you laughing at now, Jen,No, we're not ending this show.
We're not getting a divorced. That'sthe pleasure of her being in one side
of the state and me being theother. So we can keep doing these
shows, right, Although I havebeen tempted, I will. It's too

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much fun to smack him around andto just beat him up a little bit.
Though too he takes it too well. So yeah, so no,
so we we actually got to bein the audience. And I've actually been
on the show myself a couple oftimes for Spectrum and it used it was
Time Warner when I was on it, but Joanna Torano with Spectrum one,
I think it is now it wasTime Warner one before has a show and

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it's it's you know, one ofthose local stations through the bigger network where
you can you know, rent orpay to have your own show. And
so she had some healers on andasked Mike and I to come and be
in the audience. Thanks Joe,thank you. We don't have to try
that Hardy. So yeah, sowe got to say we watched. Um

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it's it's always cool to go seeother people do the same things we do,
right because not everyone does everything thesame and everyone's journey is different and
their stories were different. So Joannahad asked us to come and actually you
know, just be in the audienceand it was really nice. Actually we
have to She's been asked after usfor like a year and a half to
be on the show. Yeah,where's my stage, So we had to
be kind of got in the middleof Yeah, it really did. Actually

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it's been two years, right becauseit was during COVID we were going to
do it, but yeah, forJoanna, I keep we just haven't scheduled
it. But anyway, so yeah, it was really cool. So we
saw first she had a sound healeron and what did she use? They
were, um, the sound bowls, right, Rachel, Yeah, with
the sound bowls, and then sheand then m jen bel Coda with the

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raki and I will never forget hername on next, cool name, cool
name. Yeah, all of theseladies were really nice and really cool to
talk to. So we had agood time. It was an extended session,
which was even better. You know, so we get to Mike get
to participate. Oh, that's whatI wanted to do. I wanted to
put up the big Oh my bad, where's my tech language? You were

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in YouTube? It doesn't matter nowI don't want to hear it. No,
Well, it's still makes We stillgot all the audio stuff that out
there. But it's still not sobad. So, you know what,
we're here, we'll get that oneup. I'll put a little occasional there
that's done entertainment purposes, that's donesubscribe as all the way around. Just
yeah, and I gotta go backhere again. All right, So we're

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here on Tuesday nights. You know, we're getting spun around again. So
you know what, I don't wantto hear it. All right. We
got to see Tim Shaw. TimShaw's there. He helped out with the
cameras. He actually was doing somework. He had his shoes on.
For those of you who know Timor don't know Tim, I should say
Tim is retired. He is onmedium himself. He is an awesome paranormal

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guy, but in the field manymany many years. Oh listen, Max,
listen, I'll clean up my mouthif you cook me. One of
the it was gourmet dinners. Youlike to make deal right right? Oh
no, I can see who.I change up some of the settings on

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my thing, and I couldn't haveto stop clicking buttons. We've had this
conversation. You cannot just go click, click, click click whatever you feel
like it. Shoes in in,you know, off road, dry and
wearing crocs. I mean, sowe got to make fun of him that
he was then on what looked likea bald spot. You know, I
know I gotta post. I'll putthe pictures up on our page, doory,

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We'll post the pictures. We'll posthim on Where's my stage on Facebook?
You guys can see him there.Yes, so awesome. Well Max,
if I'm ever invited to go outwith the boys into the Haunted Woods,
then it's a date. It's adeal, all right. Uh click
through a little thing in here andI'll get into what I've been running around

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doing. I just wanted to tellChristie I got rid of the nasty spirit
that was in work. It affectedthe security guard and I had to do
something about it. Got rid ofthe next night. Always come now,
that's sweet goodness, awesome job.You know when we talk about old buildings,
here collets over there in the UK, and her buildings are a lot

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older than what we're going into.Yes, yes, yes, oh that's
awesome. I'm glad. Yes,these are our kind of days to be
a medium. But hanging out withSteve Coles, you know, like that's
one of his jokes. Oh that'sfunny. So yeah, so we get

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to do that. That was fun. That was That's always a good time
to hang out with Joanna. Yeah, and be in her show and participate.
And yes, you have to checkit out if you watch Spectrum,
definitely go on and check the checkit out. We will definitely throw that
link up when that shows up.Um, you have an advantage forget what
month? Get what month? Didshe say one month? It's going to

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air November. She had had himstaggered out coming up in the next couple
of weeks, so okay, Ithink she was going to send an email
out. Now you've got an eventthis weekend, you're doing up quick eyest
minute. This was last minute becauseI had something else that was going to
happen that was major that I hadto be around for. That happened,

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but I'm not allowed to say whatit is yet. It's killing me,
but I was able to participate inthis after all. So this is going
to be on Sunday. This isactually an extent in the same group that
put on in the same So thoseare listening by audio, what is the

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event? So oh here, Ohmy gosh, Michael, Okay, sorry
for all of all of you whoare listening. We were talking about the
Banshee Psychic Fair in Buffalo, NewYork, and it's going to take place
at one pm on Sunday, Octobertwenty third. It is an extension of
the Statler City Hotel psychic Fair thatwe can no longer do with the Stiller

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Au Full of Stiler Hotel because unfortunatelyit's under a new ownership and it's just
not what it used to be andwe can't get in there anymore to do
things like this, at least notright now. I don't know if we're
gonna be able to do that inthe future, but that's where I'm going
to be on Sunday. It's amazing. It is going to be on a
smaller scale because the Banshee is abit smaller, but it's still a home.

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I have not been there yet.Connor and Connor Hawkins and Dan Class
are running it and they are thesame duo that it ran all the Stiller
Fairs as well, and it's goingto be a great time. Connor actually
owns the Banshee and I cannot waitto see it because I have not gotten
there yet and I feel awful.But the pictures are amazing and he's done
wonderful things. And I've heard reallygood things about the food, so I

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might have to try have a mealthere while on there. Yeah, so
it would be fun. So comeout and see us. There's gonna be
I think Dan sent around eight ornine readers vendors. Um it's gonna be
good. One to sex. It'sonly five bucks to get in, you
guys, so it's really cheap.Come on out, you know. And
just for all you Buffalo Iians,they did this on purpose. It is

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a Buffalo Bills bye week, soyou don't have to worry about missing the
game because you know, darn wellI would not be there if the Bills
are gonna start losing anyway. Soyou so like football, You're a hater's
right? The two weeks all right? So wow, I'm totally clicking on

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the wrong things here. You alsohave this event coming up. I'm gonna
go over my events once you getdone with yours. So you have a
work another workshop coming up? Ido, I do. I had so
many people, I can only donine. I can only have nine people
for this at a time, soum, I did have some people who
wanted to do it that could notmake the last one. So I'm going

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to hold this one. It'll probablybe the last one before the holidays that
I will do at least online forthe spirit guides. So meet your Spirit
guides online workshop. We will learnto connect with their spirit guides. Who
are they, what are they,what do they do? How you know
they're around, and so on andso forth. We will even do a
meditation hopefully too. But we kindof remember last time, so yeah,

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it'll be fun. So I haveas of right now, I have one,
two, three, I have six. I have five spots left,
five or six spots left. Soif you want to sign up, it's
only twenty five dollars. It's notthat you know, not that much,
and it's a good time. Theother one went really well, so I
was really it was really pleased andgot some really good feedback, so it'll

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be a good night. Okay,all right, So and colet's got another
follow up. I just want togo ahead and hit that before I bounce
in. So from Klette, Soyou're right when you gave me the reading
a few weeks ago about the spiritbeing not so nice. Well, I'm
sorry I was right, but I'mglad you figure it out, you're able

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to take care of it. Oh. We always appreciate that validation, you
know, on stuff, and youknow, get stuff back to Christy And
again, like you said, folks, please like, share, subscribe,
you know, share it with yourfriends. The show and where we're going.
Um. So it's it's been acrazy couple of weeks. So I
spoke it the the Whitehall Bigfoot conferenceand uh, I'm gonna put that backup

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mask for the banner again. Solet me put your banner right back up
again. Oh it's a workshop yep. And you can also find this um
for anybody who wants you can findit. It's posted on all of my
pages on Facebook. So and ifyou if you can't remember, just call,
you can just google me, mynumbers public it's all out all over
so you can just get a holdof me. And I'm giving the info

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too. We'll need to get thatup on the Instagram as well. So,
um so yeah, so we'ent upto Sasquatch Calling contest in Whitehall,
New York and Steve calls the squashdetect It was there, Emily from the
forest Floor, Alexander Pettikoff from smallTown and we had Alexander as a guest.

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See the Paul Bartholomew, that manis amazing. Got to go to
his house and check out some amazing, amazing stuff. He's got stuff from
the Warrens if you're into that paranormalstuff. He's got there. A lot
of the old big Foot stuff.He's friends with the guys that do the

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Star War or Star trek Um Museumup in Ticonderoga that I need to get
up to, which is like awhole enterprise bridge like right down to the
thing. Lots of big Foot stuff, a lots of Champ stuff. Um
I don't. I moved everything aroundon my desk here the other day and

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yeah I don't. More stuff onit, more of that, Um understand
that actually get more piles, morepiles on it. Yeah. Um,
but if Paul gave me a coupleof books, a couple of his new
books. Then I needed to read. Um You're Gonna Be Busy was another
from Forest, Florida, helps Emilyout his book. He's actually up working

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with Dougs, so we got himone of the the UV things. Then
we got out in the woods withAlexander and his brother and uh Steve,
and we got up and went upto one of my favorite places and got
some great stuff, got some thermal. We got got a either bear or
moose on it. Michael, forthose who are only listening to this,

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what is one of your favorite places? One of my favorite places I get
home. We went up to wewere in the adarand ex Hnowaihall area.
There's an area in near Buck Mountainthat is that is a very important place.
Um I had a research partner,was part of Nestra Um one of

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the last places I gotta go to. Um he was time is awesome and
uh, you know, go upin play Paris backs. But Steve had
his sightings up there, and whilewe were there, of course, alex
is filming for more Beyond the Trailof And I'm gonna throw the link in
there, so there's actually a brandnew Beyond the Trail of Um, it's

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the Beyond the It's the Adirontic Beast, big Foot, beyond the Trail,
It's the White House, the Whitehall, New York Sasquatch episode. So uh,
it got out with Alex with Stevethe one night and his brother and
cherry and stuff, and we gotup into the mountains. Um, so
we got some stuff on thermal.We think it was a bear. But

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it was kind of good to geta couple of thermal cameras going, night
visions going, you know, andand really show people that even with the
night visions, even with the thermals, you're not always getting And I'm watching
chasing Steve through the wood because heuses a night vision of not picking things
up. We did do at ascat sample. Um, you gotta go
and watch. It's almost almost asgood as my taste like Chicken with with

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Matt Larson and Florida when I'm youknow, picking through the jawbones. Um.
And the next day we got outwith Paul Bartholomew and it's there's some
video of the sasquatch calling contest.So that was it was a good time.
But I got to explain to folksthis little dingily dangly thing for little

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dingly dangle thing looking for evidence.This is this particular one twelve foot,
No, it's twelve foot a parachord. So usually I run around with you
know, you have so much crapwith you whenever we go anywhere, I
can't keep it all straight. Yeah. Anyway, this one's got a ring
so you can thread things through orput it on a steak steak it out,

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so if you find a footprint,a track, a hair or whatever,
you can do what we call acircle search. And I'll be putting
some videos out on that. I'vegot them with tape measures so you can
actually look for evidence. So allthese folks to go with the woo and
oh my god, it disappeared.Just can allow you to kind of look
through things a lot better. Weuse it on search and rescue and it's

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a simple thing and it's imcorded,so it's safety stuff so you can document.
And I did a lot of talkingabout a lot of documentation when we
were up there on Whitehall and howto really get things down had some technical
difficulties. So I look like amusician or a musician a magician pulling stuff
out of my hat and a bigbox. So yes, Max, there's

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so much gear. Yes, Iwill I will sink a kayak. That
would be another video that you cansee and then we can mister Larson.
But it was really good. Iwatched it last night. Yeah, yeah,
you know. And I didn't wearthis thing, you know, so
I didn't look like a minion walkingaround the woods. But this one's got
this one's this one's got a camerain it. So oh that's pretty cool

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though. Yeah, so we hitthat. Um, so please take a
look at Alex's production there on smallTown you know, Seth and the crew
and Alex and and Mark. Youknow we've had him on here. Those
guys really they're awesome. They reallywant to look for answers and if they
don't find anything, they don't findanything, right, you know. And

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and it was really good. Um. I actually handed Eli from Small Town
Monsters because Paul had some old audiocassettes a tape deck because he had He's
like, how do I get thisstuff off? I'm like, you need
one of these? You know.Of course you had one, and of
course well that was just that ranback to the jeep, got one out

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and the way we went. Um, those four guys did not know what
to expect them. I get notwo days before or the event. I
buy this formless you know, Bluetoothspeaker. This is what got the speakers

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through because they broke so literally They'relike, what is Mike going to pull
out of the car next. I'mlike, I don't know. We ran
off my wireless stuff. So butthe event is awesome. There's some amazing
folks there. I got to meetJeff from Strangeology podcast. Um, you
know, he's got some awesome stuff. It was just a great time.

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Um this weekend, if you arein Western New York and Mel I saw
you, just pop in there onSaturday is the I saw Bigfoot the Chataka
Lake Bigfoot Festival down in Dewittville,New York on Chataka Lake. Peter Weemer
runs that and Peter puts a greatevent on. That's the reason I ended

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up here and I'm sitting here todayis because I met Steve and which you
put me onto the Paranormal Thing,which got me going to h Zales where
I met Christie. So it's thatevent is awesome. Steve speaking Small Monsters,
Yeah, you know, um Sethfrom Small Town Monsters is going to

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be speaking and uh, doctor Meldron, So you guys that watch all the
big Foot shows and everything, Meldronwill be down here speaking. It's a
great family time. I've taken myniece's nephews down. The family has gone
down for that event, and um, it's just it's just a great time.
So uh, you know, occasionallyMary, I'll pop in Mary Roller.

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Um, you know, we've donesome research there. We found some
Prince wait what did you say,Roller, it's her name. She'll pop
in in our podcast. She popsin a lot of Steve's. Um,
she's got some property down there.We went and checked out. It was
kind of cool. Um and ourfriends Stacy and we found some prints,
you know, ones that I actuallysaid, wow, this is the right

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size. And I think Joe fromUS and New York big Foot said he
was going to kind of swing down. So it's a great family event.
There's h Paul Mehia from the beoff Our Road be down there speaking.
But it's it's a good time todo a little little town hall, you
know kind of thing. And it'sa pretty this time year, guys,
it is a pretty area to go. Oh you know, so we've we've

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been out there. We've been doingsome you know, some speaking engagements.
We've got some of this stuff going. I will be putting something, like
I said, putting some evidence videosout or maybe hopping on um on one
of our off nights to kind ofgo over. You know. Some folks
have asked me more data collection stuff. So so that's where we're at.
You know, we are back.You're gonna see us a little more often.

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We're finally getting some set schedules wherewe can be around a little bit
more often. So yeah, sowe said we were gonna do some readings
tonight. I think, sorry,Yeah, it's okay. Oh oh,

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it's gonna come and join it.You gotta come. Let us know your
hair. You get make it overto the States. So I know you
have to we have to meet you. We have to meet you. You
have to come. Yes, SoI need some chaps that because you know,
for all of those who you followyou, people out there that know
me, I love my chapstick andi'd hit people you'll let me over the

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years to get away from the CarMaxbecause I've been using that since it came
out when I was a teenager,and so I've been using the bird bees.
So I get this really really interestinggifts from my partner the other day,
who thought he's gonna be a funnyman and help me out with my

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chapstick addiction. Here it is,and I just cut my mouth clean.
So Max ows me a gourmet mealin the woods. Even now that sounds

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so there you go chicken poop.So we're gonna open this up and we're
just gonna see here. Now thisis kind of hold on. I had
to do, you know, thiswhole thing, because you know, that's
the point of life that I'm at, so free it says, free range
chicken poop, lip junk. Allnatural cosmetic moisturizer contains so poop. So
we're gonna Grandpa says, if yougot dry lips, put chicken poop bottoms,

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you won't like. I'm so noteven gonna go down any other road
with that in any way, shapeor form, or you're gonna have to
make a whole new chicker for me. My bad. So all right,
here it is, this does somethingfunky to me. I'm gonna kill you,

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you know that, right you lookat the look at a little smile.
He's got this face well Max hasgot a great one, literally potty
mouth. All right, here wego. Where's oh hey his avocago bees
wax? All right, this isgood? You do good? Well,
we'll see. Well, you know, chickens eat that stuff before they poop

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it out, so I mean that'syou know, maybe not. It smells
like plunch love it. It's awax. All right, let's see,
am I let's turn around. No, but there was a fuzzy at my

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I'm I'm waiting for the the microscopeto work up. I'm good, okay,
all right, I'm good. Tryingto smell it. Do you guys
all do it? You know youdo? Yeah? It's hilarious. This
is not bad. This is likea lemon. Lemon, eat it good?

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Well, when you go buy yourchickens a central tractor. Um,
I'm trying to get the microscope towork because while we're at Paul's he actually
has some hair samples there that fromthe supposed to be the Chinese you're in.
So chicken me chicken made fudge too, dude, leave it to the

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big punters. Oh yeah, interesting, that's so funny. Yeah, isn't
that cool? Yeah? Are youdoing good? Try and not in trouble
the spruzzle unit. That's fine,we can pat, we can, we
can get a hold of the otherhalf there she watches as much as he

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doesn't get we'll get him in.So oh yeah, we haven't done any
What are you readings in a while? Anybody got a question for Christie Knight?
And we're getting close to the Halloweenseason. So where's your favorite favorite
favorite creepy creepy spot? Are youasking the chat? Are you asking me

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the chat? What's what's the throwingthe chat? Man? Let's let's know
what's going on. I know,you know, we haven't haven't thrown this
out, you know. Well maybeonce we get some little in action here,
we'll throw up a link for somebodycome and join us, you know,
or even if you want to justyou know, just you can ask
the question. I can I cangive you a short reading or um,

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yeah, if you want to.Ooh, have either of us had an
alien experience? That's from ten SoDamon Cuttle you go to Damon, So
you're from my area. Actually it'sfunny because it's going to college inside the

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fence. Oh that's dubl it's insidethe fence, not Damon yeah, I
don't think Damon's in the fense,but I haven't in the fence not Yeah,
Duvil has a huge fence around.Yeah, that's okay. You get
points enough from Buffalo, you getpoints on that. That's all right,
you can do good. Um isthe all the energy? I know?

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You know you said that. I'mthinking we have like majority of big foot
people all energy. All right,So let's say that one we'll go back
to marriages and I'll swing background.So you know, it's funny. I
never felt anything. I actually yearsago, Um, actually when I was
in high school Creps. That's along time ago, but I used to

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I went there for a few yearsto do retreat for my church. Actually,
and I don't ask me. Icould get it there, but don't
ask me what hallway were in orwhat room we were in. But I
never felt anything. I actually feltpretty good there, to be honest with
you. Maybe it was because ofthe capacity, or maybe because I was
in high school and it was moreof I wasn't in tune the way I

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am now. I mean, thishas happened in my whole life, but
I wasn't, you know, itwasn't one of those things where I was
always aware. Excuse me, butas far as my the only time I
ever can say I had any kindof like any encounter or anything with aliens.

(31:40):
Again, I was in like middleschool or high school, and I
lived two blocks away from the elementaryschool in the neighborhood, so you know,
the kids, just neighborhood kids.We'd always just go walk to the
playground and you know, hang outon the swings and do whatever. So
I remember sitting just swinging on theswings the one day and we looked up
and there was like woods behind,like there's a playground, and then but
then there was a woodline that wentbehind the school and flying over the woods

(32:07):
was this. Do you guys rememberthe Flight of the Navigator For those of
you who are my age or older, it was like nineteen eighty two nineteen
eighty three. It was a Disneymovie called Flight of the Navigator where the
ship would actually turn and it wouldpivot in the sky and that it would
turn a different shape and it wasalmost like a rain drop that came kind
of more to a point with theball ball on the end of it.

(32:30):
It was the coolest thing. Butso that's this thing actually looked like like
I looked up and at first,because it was further away, it looked
like a plane, but it didit. But you're you know, you
just think, okay, it's thesky or too far away. But as
it was lower, it was lower, and then as it came by,
it wasn't going as fast as theplane would go. And it had a

(32:52):
weird ship. I've never seen theshape before. It literally was like this
point with this ball on the endof it. It was definitely non aircraft
anything that I've ever seen or heardof. And um actually, years later
I even described you to my myhusband, who was in the Air Force
for thirty one years, and hewas like, no, no, and
he worked on all sorts of aircraftover the years. Nothing, So that

(33:15):
was the closest I've ever come.I know other people that have had it,
but not myself. So I've neverheard that story. That's interesting,
Actually you have, but we won'tgo there. Oh is that with Ryan?
What we were with Ryan and Chautauqua, and he was talking about aliens

(33:37):
and UFOs and I got something likeon the therm going past, it's definitely
a bird of some sort. Butit was like perfect timing it was like,
yeah, and things fly across opperslike, oh, I think so
I definitely heard the story. Igotta find that video. Oh god,
but I had any trying to recoverfrom that. No crazy UFO or alien

(33:58):
abduction kind of stuff. Um,but you know, I'm gonna shamelessly pug
that. You know, go lookat the phenomenon by James Fox, buddy
of buying Um. David E.West was one of the cinematographers on that.
It's on two B It's on Amazonand it never got to come out.

(34:19):
Um during well, they were supposedto premiere it like a can and
then COVID hit so they never Soyesterday they actually got to premiere it in
the theater in La but awome soand they have selective hearing. No,
I'm old and deaf, um souh, very good time. I really

(34:45):
just want to go away. Souh yeah. So as the aliens.
No, Now, were you talkingabout Damon College? Is that what you
were talking about? Haunted area there? Chris? Okay, because you were
like, I'm a little slow toget there. Um, all right,
so is the all energy big Footputs out rolled up into Edgar Gore never

(35:14):
heard the word I'm gonna have togo look that one up. Yeah,
yeah, that one a little bitfor us, you know, artists.
This change of weather, I don'tknow about you guys. Has my allergies
and my sinus is so screwy ridiculous. You're looking it up. Yep.

(35:39):
It's from the French, from ancientegrap is an occult concept ressent representing a
non physical entity that arises from corructivethought or distinctive group of people. So
it's like a topa wait to saythat again, but read it a little
more clearly, and a cult onsap representing a non physical entity that arises

(36:02):
from the collective thoughts of distinctive groupa distinct group of people. So we're
talking like a slender man. We'retalking like a tulpa. So we're talking
like karmic energy, low level energy. Yeah, I mean, that's no
intelligent um, but I've left unattended. Eventually can manifest when when there's enough

(36:24):
of it, can manifest, butit won't be intelligent. H M.
Interesting. So yeah, I meanthere's there's a lot of that um.
But you know, Max, youand I have had to talk in the
woods. There's a lot of otherstuff that we don't understand. Um,

(36:46):
I've been picking the brain of alot of primatologists and biologists lately, saying,
all right, here's where we siton the food chain. This is
our little section of the food chainof that you know primate pyramid. When
the actual whole family tree is thissize. You know, there are two

(37:08):
different glows. I add two glowsticks here at least not a deep jerky
fronts um. But the uh,you know, going back and and I'm
telling folks all the time, now, let's go back and look at some
of this this old stuff. Youknow, Um, you know the the

(37:29):
quote unquote red eyeshine and stuff likethat. Well, if we go back
to slow loris and all that,you know they have it. You know
the primatesterm poisonous. Well there areyou know primates that are poisonous, you
know, the old, the blonde, the red, the whatever gibbons do.
So we're always looking at other stuffthat's there. Now let's go take

(37:52):
a look at the end here.We looked at the singing bowls there a
couple of weeks ago with the TVshow last week. Yes, it's like
an eternity already. Um, youknow, frequencies we look at you know,
stuff like HEMI sink or those singingbowls or did Redo or the monks

(38:14):
doing those chants or Yogi's kidding thatthat vibrational tone, that stuff all messy
up and there's different you know.The government uses that stuff is you know,
um, you know dispri dispersional stuff. Yeah. Yeah, so this
this whole thing. Yeah, ifyou get you get an animal that vibrates,

(38:34):
or you get that that feeling thatsomething's off, you know, it's
there, that whole infrasound. Youknow. Oh, I'm in the house
and I feel like the creepy spiritsare here and I'm getting sick. And
you know, that's the first thingI do when I walk in the house.
Show me where your some pump is, show me where your boiler is,
because I want to know where thewater is going, where that vibration
is going through. It's the samething I'm looking for that stuff. So
yep. Yeah, when we neverwe go to do an investigation or something,

(38:58):
you know, and he'll get therea little before me. Sometimes it'll
be I'll walk in, Oh where'sMike. Oh he's in the basement.
Oh he's in the a Oh he'sin there. Oh good, he's the
one getting dirty. I just getto walk through and do absolutely don't encourage
them, Melanie, No, I'mkidding. Anyone who didn't know him would
be like, what the heck isthis guy doing? But you know,

(39:19):
we all know you'll love you wouldknow that you got all that stuff.
All. I got a bag stuff. I have a toolbox full of things
over here, so I can justpull flashlights sir, yeah, or flashlights
sir, sticks sir. Wait asecond, because I want to go back
here cell phones. Oh, speakingof which I might even pull animal hair
out of here. This is theoriginal here which examples of that kind of

(39:43):
interesting. I thought you were gonnasay you're gonna pull your hair out.
I was gonna say, you can'tafford to you don't do that. No,
it's good. Sorry, okay,any who So ten hand of comment,
though, um Niagara County jail isthe worst I've experienced personally with level
spirits. That's enough for me tonever go back. So ten, you

(40:04):
want to come on and tell usabout it, because I would love to
hear about that because I'm in NiagaraCounty too, so that would be super
cool. And actually, um,if there are areas that we can investigate.
Mike and I would love to go, and I know other people who
would love to go as well.All right, Jen's got a quick question
for you. Our navy, OurNavy's son was putting harm's way. I

(40:29):
want to know if he'll be safe, and I'm going to start some of
these comments so we don't lose him. I really feel like he's gonna be
okay. I think your your momdar's kicking in, so try not to

(40:52):
overthink it. You and I bothknow both know what it's like. You
know, military wives, military families. It's it's hard. So um your
spirit guys are saying, no matterwhat though, and I'm not protecting anything
here, take comfort and refuge inthe fact that he made a choice,

(41:19):
so that really, no matter whatwould ever happen, if anything would ever
happen, you know that it wouldhe would be doing what he wanted,
what was important. He was,He is being who he is supposed to
be and doing what he's supposed todo, and what he's doing is so
important and just so special. Um. Yeah, that's the other saying.

(41:43):
So just trying to breathe, Mama, he's here, all right? What
the heck. See you put itout to the universe. We get the
man here. For those that youare tuning in and haven't watched the show,
go back and watch our shows withMatt Larson. Go look over at

(42:04):
Central Florida big Foot's channel. Iheard a rumor that Matt wants to get
away from doing his channel. Goover, take a look. That man
is talking to all of us.He is figuring things out, and he's
got an awesome channel, as wellas some of the other folks here in
this chat. But if I'm inFlorida and I want to get out in
the woods, I'm gonna find Mattand we're gonna go have a good time,

(42:28):
because you know what, the bestpart of big footing is getting out
with your friends and enjoying and whocares what the hell shows up, But
damn document everything that's there. Youknow, that's the most important thing.
So we can come back and we'regonna take a look. You know,
I've I've added more apps to myphone, more stuff to record, because
this stuff is there. And youknow what if we find something you're not

(42:52):
allowed to deep Poppycock next, yeah, yeah, no, Poppycock puts me
in a hospital. We can't dothat, all right, So Patrick had
a quick question and then I'm goingto swing back down to the chat.
There's a theory that we're all aliensand Bigfoot are what was created here.
Yes, I mean pat that thatis there, and you know the documentation

(43:14):
on that. Again, when wecan we figure out every day it seems
or every lately or every couple ofmonths, we're finding new folks off the
tree and the tree has become gonefrom a tree to a bush. On
what we've got for people? Um? You know Max tesselate, Yeah,

(43:35):
frequency and vibration. Yeah. Man, if we really could have picked that
man's brain from where we're at,I mean, I mean, let's put
a couple of his coils up andstick something in the ground and transmit energy
back and forth, you know.I mean, he had so much stuff
that we don't don't see, don'tyou know? Do? Um? I

(43:58):
was saw somebody lifted and moved ona new mattress kind of thing just recently.
Um and instead of medical staff,haven't you really lift it's it's a
it's an inflatable mattress basically, andto put them on and they're kind of
moving the room, Like, youknow, is there a way that some

(44:20):
of these stones, because we're gonnago right down here to the Patrick's thing
about Stonehenge. You know, couldthat stuff been moved an alternative method?
You know, we'll obviously stones andpoles and rocks and pulleys. Could they
made an air cushion and floated itsomehow? I mean I watched a bunch
of kids making hovercraft really simple withsome leafblowers. You know, again,

(44:43):
what are we missing? What's outthere? So look at the acoustical testing
at Stonehenge. Yeah, I meanthere's a lot of cool stuff there if
you can find and I'll try tofind it somewhere. Um there's some amazing
video taking this called a biofield imagerum of the stones that Stonehenge, and

(45:04):
it almost looks like you're looking throughthe stones. That blue stone gives off
a very interesting frequency. And afriend of mine, it's um U in
the energy healing and crystals and everythinglike that, he had some of that
video. I'm using this biofield imagerand looking through the stones and actually picking

(45:28):
stuff up, So you know,those areas are very very interesting on what
you're gonna get. So UMA thinkax is an alien again. Um could
be that could be a possibility,you know. Um, So let's see

(45:50):
where we're going. We had someother j oh to the yeah jail,
Yeah, come on ten if you'reup there. So mel Melanie says,
the Witch's Walk and Alleghany is spooky. I can never seem to find me
Witch's Walk and it's right near Salamanca, And I wonder if it ties in

(46:10):
with the tower because that's where wefound all those you know, different symbols
and everything that you didn't want togo anywhere in Arabe. At that time,
we were down at Wildwood and Ithink it is down in the Wildwood
area in Salamanca. But yeah,the Alleghanies is an interesting thing. So
Patrick actually grew up in a hauntedhouse. We're always Yealloween, all right.

(46:42):
The Sun's my kind of place.In the saturation in in the caves,
I've heard disembodied voices. Didn't scareme, but I'd go back again,
you know. That's uh you knowthere you have you go first to
the caves, or you go thepub and then go to the caves.
Can't That's that's my question. Ohyeah, yeah, bad, bad,

(47:07):
bad bad. Yeah that makes twoof us right now. It is Tuesday,
and I just turned off something.They were making wet burritos and okay,
too many stories as CEOs for stories. It was a female on the
third floor and CEO said it wasthe least freaky floor, but I refused

(47:30):
it, but refused to tell usthe rest. She was working nights.
You get into some of those places. There are some weird, funky stuff
that happens in those type of buildings. You know, all that metal,
all that concrete. Um, hesaid, suicides and ending k is all

(47:51):
I know. Definitely seen shadows ofhanging is, throwing, threatening ways walking.
Okay, people get them reads.I need to go I need to
go in. I need to getin there. Yeah you think, I'm
not sure you're coming with me onthat one. Yeah, you didn't do

(48:14):
so we didn't even do so wellwhen we went to Mansfield there or no,
I don't know, no, no, no, I'll never forget it.
That's a story right there. That'sa story. Can I tell it
that story? Sure? You cantell that story, okay, because yeah,
your job's out, I mean itwas it was a former career.
Yeah you can talk about Yeah,Okay, so we stopped. We stopped

(48:37):
at Mansfield on the way home fromthe premiere of Mike Show in Ohio.
Um, plays years was two yearsago, twenty one year and a half
ago, right, m hmm,yeah, yeah, I can't believe it
all. I cow so. Um, we are in the cell blox right,

(49:00):
and you know, so they havea lot of suicides there really,
so you know, anywhere anytime wego investigate anything anywhere that you know,
it is a place where people hadto respect authority or there were you know,
police officers or there was anyone inlaw enforcement in any capacity. Right

(49:21):
because of his background. It screwsthings up for me because then nobody wants
to come near me because you know, of his like energy. So at
one point, and this was thiswas actually we went during the day,
so this was like an open walkaround your do your own thing kind of
a tour. We're walking through thecellblox and I was drawn to a couple

(49:43):
and he got a phone call,so he walked away, and I was
actually called in to one of thecell blox um or one of the cells
by an entity that was in there. There was a guy in there.
So here I go in and I'mstanding like in the middle next to the
bed, and and they just getin. He's just he's coming around,
He's starting to talk to me,whatever the case is. I'm just like

(50:06):
gonna make some headway. And allof a sudden, here, Nope,
nope, I won't. I won't. I promise you, I won't.
I won't. I won't. SeeOh no. But and I turned around.
There's Mike in the freaking doorway.I was so bad. What the
fuck are you doing? And he'sgot that little he gritted in his face
right like he always does, andhe's like, what what? So you

(50:27):
were on the phone, because well, I'm not on the phone anymore.
Well, you just ruined it becauselike I was like, really good about
to talk to me. But I'lltell you when I went with Behind the
Shadows and I filmed at a particularjail, You guys are not gonna want
to miss this episode. I can'tsay what, where or how yet,
but um, we had some prettycool interactions because there are some of you

(50:51):
who don't realize what I can,what can happen, and what I can
be capable of. And um,we had a spirit truly yeah channel through
me and kind of verbally one afterone of my cast mates. So that
was pretty cool. And now it'sa joke. Yeah, so yeah,

(51:13):
that was pretty cool though. Solots more interaction, well mikes that around
in the jails and stuff. Butyeah, I gotta get in there.
I wanted to get in there,do you okay? I was trying to
find I was trying to find thepicture and I can't which one I was
trying to find. I had picturesfrom from the jail. It's got to
be at one of my six externalhard drives. But so you guys have

(51:37):
to go and check out our episodeof the Big Tree in when we went
to the Big Tree in that scaredthe Bejesus out of both of us.
Well it didn't scare scare, butyou know, like it totally took us
off guard. Startle is pretty good. Oh my god. Not neither of
us expected it. And we werelive. Yeah, we were alive when
it happened. So you guys willsee us if you go look and search

(51:58):
out our Big Tree in episode.Um, you actually see us both like
jump, We're on the split screenand we're like because there was a table
in the adjoining room in front ofus and the only other person there was
the person who let us in,and she was in a back office.
Yeah all right, yeah, sowe were a long so big tree and

(52:27):
in genesee O, New York.It's now there was a question where it
was okay, you tell it,no it might backpack jumped off the table
and what that was about it?So really yeah? And I want fighting?

(52:52):
So wow, all right? Allright? Oh no, we don't
want to share that one? Dowe want to share this one? I
used to be good at this.Yes he does, Max, Yes he
does. He can't even bring himselffrom it. There is looking kind of

(53:19):
problem. I'm trying to see.Hey, I didn't know you had that
picture of What the hell? Yeah? So yeah, I was out here.
She's right over here by the cellblock. That's where it happened.
But yeah, that's inside. That'sfrom a couple of years ago, and

(53:42):
some another she was in this herewhat I was around the corner. It's
interesting that the Gothic architecture and thisand Attica that we always hear about are
always pretty similar or similar in architecture. We had more of them. Got
my other fuller that's the outside ofit. Ten. You're probably thinking of

(54:06):
big Tree Road out in Hamburg.Maybe a Big Tree Road. I don't
know, there might be a BigTree in or restaurant out there, but
I know it's Big Tree Road,so maybe that's what you're thinking of now.
I just walk the Washington County Jailin York. That was an interesting

(54:31):
one. We did that. Idid that years ago with Steve and Jack
Kenna and Brian McCulley and Mike d'Ansand stuff like that. You know,
run to you in files and acouple of law enforcement guys going through.
That was kind of an interesting experience. Everybody else is freaking out. We

(54:52):
just walked through, like, yeah, okay, here's another day. That
was the first time I found outthat you can get a reflection of a
with a thermal in a mirror,because they had taken a section of the
jail and converted it over to storage, and somebody put an old mirror in
the back of the cell. AndI walked in with the and I'm just

(55:12):
it's all pitched black and I'm justwalking with a thermal. And I turned
with a thermal and looked back inmy little seat that goes on my phone,
and there's a body looking back atme, and I'm like, we're
the only ones in this area,and what the you know? And the
guys are like, why is therea body? No? It just for
some reason, it was perfect.It took the reflection and I don't know

(55:35):
why it works that way, butit just happened to work that way.
Ms. Dorms Uh, I go. I'd ghost hunt, I think,
but I think i'd feel a little. That's what they make poise pads for.

(55:57):
Max. Don't worry. I'll protectyou, Okay, I'll have your
back on the ghost hunt. Youcan have my back on the on the
big foot hunt, because we allknow that my partner has a really bad
habit of leaving me alone. Takeit. You use bait when you go
hunting, you know. Yeah,so I've been told you just wait your

(56:19):
day's coming. My friend and Ihave been left. Let's see. Um
oh, Jen's been to the WashingtonCounty one Jen, or to the Niagara
County one. So, so Joesays he has he doesn't have a lot

(56:45):
of spooky stories, but he haswon. Let's hear it. You want
to come on Live Joe and talkit or you wanna stop it out here?
Please like, Share, subscribe,guys, um, get the word
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(57:06):
we've made to transition. So yeah, folks popping in here. We used
to be on Yeah, it's notthat we used to be. We chose
not to be on the eight differentlocations we were, so we were on
like five different Facebook pages and theTwitter. And no. I want to
bring the whole family, the wholeaudience to one place. Yeah, so

(57:28):
we can, so we can talk. Okay, Gen's been to Washington Camp.
Oh, yes, and light thevideo too, thank you. Yeah,
Joe, come on with us.I'll put the link in there.
Come on and talk with us.Yes, thank you, light the video
too. Yes, Tenny, wemet in person. I know. I
want to know who you are.And that's the only problem with YouTube compared
to some of the other socials iswho you are talking to. Um,

(57:51):
okay, stick it up there,I will do that. Chap chop.
Oh, no, I read thatwrong. So at Western New York big
Foot speech to text, I wouldspeech to text. No, it's it's

(58:16):
for Joe speech to text, notit wasn't gonna tell us who he is?
Why not? Do we know you? Oh? Do we know you?
And you don't want us to knowwho you are? What's up with
that? Come on you before ray? No, let's see. Uh so,

(58:47):
Klette, I love them as MissouriState pendetur tree. It's a great
building. Felt okay in there?A few EBPs? Cool? All right,
big bad Joe, come on up, buddy. How are you doing
feeling tonight? You're doing good,buddy, Hi Joe, Joe. Can't

(59:07):
hear Joe the other fellow podcaster.You're muted? No, he's not muted.
Yeah, he probably has the switches. I know, but I'm gonna
have to use the occasional language there. Yeah, I don't have him muted.

(59:35):
I'm gonna pull you down and we'llput you back up again. There
are yeah. Hey, this computersometimes I don't know why. I gotta
go back into my setting SI sometimesfor some reason, it mutes my microphone
and it doesn't the weird limes man. It's just I mean, I want

(59:58):
it. I know he's the rookie. This was this a brand new laptop
was donated kindly donated to me byone of my listeners and it's a great
laptop. But for some reason,every now and then, out of the

(01:00:19):
blue, the microphone gets muted andI have to go ahead and muted.
But anyway, right, why niceto see you again. Joe is his
real name? Is Joe's real name? You know? He was asking that
last night quite a bit too,right because I asked, I asked if
Max powers? I said, isthat his real name? Oh? Man,

(01:00:40):
man, you know you got alot of match powers, you know.
Oh yeah, that's like a hugestage name presence. Just no,
yeah, Joe's my real name.Satch Squatch however, is uh a different
non the plume? Gotcha, worryman? So what's your story? I

(01:01:01):
want to hear your story. Umwell, let me begin with this.
You know, you know me,I'm pretty skeptical when it comes to paranormal
supernatural stuff. But um, youfreaked me out, O me. Not

(01:01:22):
because you got a spooky brain.You got a spooky brain. And I'll
admit, man, I mean I'mstill impressed by it because you told me
to fix my shed and you hadno way of freaking knowing that shingles had
blown off my shed. So something'ssomething's going on. Um, I can't

(01:01:47):
help it, but um, yeahthe story man. Um. So I'm
with one of my other good associationsand friends, Gary Bootehaller from New York
Bigfoot Society, Okay, and wehad been Arry had contacted me and said,

(01:02:09):
hey, this lady wants to comeout and investigate somebody to come out
and investigate and her place. Andshe has a place near Buffalo. Um
wants to investigate because she thinks she'shad some big foot activity going on around
there. Well, I'm like,all right, cool. He said,
you want to go along because it'snot that far from you, And I

(01:02:30):
said, sure, man, itsounds like be fun. Right. Well,
little did I know, Um,not only was this place had possible
big foot activity, it's one ofthe most haunted fricking houses apparently around and

(01:02:50):
it's been it's been written up,it's been on shows and stuff. So
right, So so this this house, apparently it used to be owned by
a serial killer. Okay, Andyeah, so let that sink in so
and um, it's surrounded by basicallya swamp, okay. And you drive

(01:03:16):
down a nice dirt driveway and onthe left hand side would be a barn.
Yeah. Have you seen the place. Maybe maybe somebody hung themselves in.
Yeah. See so anyway, yeah, no, no, go ahead
and tell you. I go aheadand tell your story and then I'll tell
you. Yeah, you know wherethe place is. So okay, man,

(01:03:36):
Gary, go there, right.We meet the lady and then all
of a sudden, she's talking about, you know, the house, and
I'm like, oh great, Wellyou know me, I'm like, yeah,
okay, I'm pretty skeptical about ghostsand all that stuff. So I'm
there to investigate big foot. Letme get to the big foot stuff.
I'm not going in the house anyway. So we start looking around, and
short enough, man, we didfind some indications that maybe she did have

(01:03:59):
some at least seasonal activity going onaround there, because I mean there was
fruit trees, and I mean therewas all kinds of food for a big
foot. And so we actually founda couple of things. Now I can't
say one they were big Foot tracks, but they certainly looked like they definitely
could be. And I found aweird little thing that looked like a blind.

(01:04:24):
Now I'm not saying that big footbuilds is blind I'm not sure if
they do that right, but itdid look like something had you know,
like the trees, whether it wasby natural or not, whether the trees
naturally did it and twined themselves andkind of there was So in the summertime,
I could see this thing if thenthe trees were still alive, they

(01:04:45):
weren't dead, and they were intertwined, and I could say, I'm like
man in the summertime, because shehad been complained, she thought that something
was in the woods and it wouldlook into her backyard and watched her kids,
you know, because that big firepitting there. And I know he
knows what I'm talking about. SoI find this thing, and I'm like,

(01:05:06):
hmm, that looks like something couldeasily hide behind it. If she
thinks something is washing from the woods, something could be standing here when this
is all covered and leaves and youwouldn't even see it, right, And
so and that was where we foundone of the potential footprints. So as

(01:05:29):
as the night goes on, right, I'm all into big foot now,
all right, there might be somebig foot activity going on, right,
maybe we'll get some audio maybe,you know. Right, So it's dark,
it's nighttime, and me and Garyare by the edge, and I
have this I don't know it's it'snot an expensive one, but it works
pretty well. This parabolic mic.Right, So I'm listening with that to

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see because we thought we'd heard somethingoff in a distance, not sure what
it was, so I wanted tolisten with the parabolic mike to see if
it was some kind of howl orwhoop or some something like that, you
know, some weird noise that I'mnot used to hearing, right, And
so I'm listening with that, andI'm standing there and Gary was about I

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don't know, ten fifteen feet awayfrom me maybe and from the left to
my rut no, no, no, from my right going to the left,
like this dark shaped shadow moved rightreal quick, man. But I
saw it right, But there wasno noise. So I'm like, that's

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not a deer. It's definitely nota big foot. It was not a
big foot. I don't know whatit was it was. And then about
I don't know, maybe ten minutes, five minutes after five ten minutes after
that happened to me. Gary goes, hey, Joe, I want what
he said, did you see that? And I said what he said,
There was a dark shape. Isaid, yeah, it just went by

(01:07:05):
me, going from from my rightto the left. He said, oh,
well it went from the left tothe right for him, from my
left to the right. And Iwent, m okay. So now I'm
getting the hair on my arms arestanding up now because of this right.

(01:07:25):
So I'm like, all right,so now I'm I'm I'm like, okay,
this is okay, not big foot? Not big foot? So what
is it? Are we both imaginingthis shit? But I'm listening with the
parabolic mike after that, still listeningfor these whoops, and man, I
swear to god, it sounded likesomething right up against the dish went and

(01:07:54):
that that was it. I lostit, Man, I lost it.
It sounded like a real heavy sideright. And then I'm like, okay,
that's I'm done. I'm done.That's what I'm done. Man.
I'm like, I picked the headphonesup. I'm like, Gary, I'm
done. Man, I'm done.He's like, what what? And I'm
like, dude, I just Isaid. You didn't hear that, dude,

(01:08:15):
you just now? He said no, And I said, man,
I just heard a sigh, heavysigh, right, that sounds like it
was right against the dish man,And I'm like, I'm done. Man,
you're talking about this place is haunted. Okay, fine, I don't
know. I'm but look there,this isn't bigfoot. And if it's not
bigfoot, then whether I'm skeptical,fine, but there there's something going on

(01:08:36):
here that's not bigfoot. And Idon't even want to know what it is,
man, because I'm thinking house isowned by a serial killer who killed
a bunch of people and buried themall over the property. And I'm like,
I'm done, dude, I'm done. That's bit over. Wow,
that's amazing. So Mike has beento that that place, I have not

(01:08:59):
I mean go there. I meanI've been around the area, I've driven
by it, but I've just neverhad the opportunity to go investigate it yet,
and I definitely want to. Myconclusion is yet she might have bigfoot
coming through their seasonally, but shedefinitely got some creepy going on there.
I can say, I don't knowif I want to know what it is.

(01:09:24):
Oh. Yeah, and you spoketo uh with Kathy, right,
yes, yeah, Okay, justthat confirms the house. Yeah, I
that is the only house I willnot go into. Oh. I talked
to a guy that was there asa kid, who's our size, Joe,

(01:09:46):
And he started to cry like ababy. Yeah. When I mentioned
that house, I watched just likeliterally he had watched, you know.
He was a you know what,I'm looking for a major traumatic never seen
somebody that affecting. He's like,you don't go there. And he saw

(01:10:06):
something with red glowing eyes looking tothe window with him and a couple of
buddies. I was, you know, and then there are there's historical accounts
of a big foot there, oneof the last major battle Native battles before

(01:10:28):
there was a white settlers. Yeah, took over the whole area. M
I watched a black mass move alongthe back of the house. So I
don't know if you guys were there, if they still had the secure the
security lights up, but we putsecurity lights up, and I'm standing up,
I'm walking up from the fire,and I watched the shadow just moving

(01:10:48):
along the back of the house.So I start doing my my my thing
where I'm like, okay, here'sthe light. Put my flash laid up,
trying to get that same dark look. And I had two mediums walk
up and one's uh, I can'tthink of the actual as it starts with

(01:11:09):
an ass it's an Italian witch anduh it was Michelle. And she started
to do a prayer and Italian andthis thing and swear at it and just
it goes zoop and it it doesn'tgo to the window and stop. It
went into the house, and Iwent, that's the offin reason I don't

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go in this house. And thenand then her flash rate wasn't working,
so I give every one of thetactical ones. You know it has the
button on the back, you knowwhere you actually have to depress the button
to get it to work. Andshe goes into the house. And she
went in with a guy. AndI talked to him earlier because he had
come to an event with us,and he talked to calls about Bigfoot and

(01:11:56):
how he and his brother in lawcrossed the street had this experience. So
he goes in because he's a paranormalguy. And he came running out of
there, but ripped the screen dooroff, got in his car and left
a trail down that driveway. Hedid not stop and look for any other
cars come any other way. Imean you could still him. Hear him

(01:12:19):
a mile down the road drop andrubb her and squealing to get out of
there. Michelle came out and she'slike, your flash like turned on in
my pocket. I didn't sit down. I'm walking. It's not you know,
it's not a mag late where yougot a twist, you tactic.
You gotta hit the tactical switch.And I still use that flash of all

(01:12:41):
time. It does not turn itselfon. And yeah, some of the
original that was the first investigation.I took my niece on for tracks and
we got a picture, you know, little baby tracks like Alex sent me
one of the baby prints that DavidEllis took up on the West Coast.
Ye. Yeah, there's there's alot of that creepy man. That place

(01:13:02):
is creepy. And look, Ilet Gary talk to the lady because I
was like, you're the lead onthis man, So you talked to her,
you telling yep o our findings andet cetera. Because if if it
had been me, I'd have beenI'd have just done it while I was
walking towards the car and have been, Yep, you might have big butt.
And there's some creepy ash ship goingaround here, lady that you know,

(01:13:29):
I talk about finding you know,deer pelviss and trees and stuff like
that, and I took Christie alongand like within there was a two years
cycle between yum in two different areas. I found deer pelvis is stuck into
trees just slightly off trail, andI'm like, yeah, I could be
walkers or but to find the sameset up two years in advance, and

(01:13:51):
we've we know some folks, youknow that it'd have done some you know,
the major TV shows, or folksthat work in the background for something.
They won't go in the house.I watched a girl come out of
the basement doing an investigation one nightone I couldn't understand why she was wearing
flip flops. Again, I wouldn'tgo in there. And I was there
like almost every weekend with one ofour friends, Teddy's not in there.

(01:14:14):
He could tell you some really creepystuff about seeing stuff that they had in
DVR, like crawling down the wallsand there. But she came out with
vertebal small animal vertebrae stuck in herin her in her flip flops. Her
friends like, what's on your shoe? And she's like, and I'm like,
somebody doing sacrifices in the baby.Because I also abandon for a while.

(01:14:35):
Yeah, it's that is the creepiestand the swamp it's in for those
folks who listening it, it hasa very funky makeup. Um, it's
the area that it's covered in trailcameras. You have to have special permits

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to go into a lot of theareas. They're the species that are there,
only found there and nowhere else inthe world. And it plants and
animals. It's yeah, it's isnot is not the creepiest place you've ever
been, or you know, youdrive by, you you get the creeps.
I hate even driving anywhere near theswamp. Yeah, it's it's creepy,

(01:15:18):
man. And look, you know, if it had been just like
one of those things alone that hadhappened, I probably could have brushed it
off. As my imagination with bothof those things and then read afterwards,
you know, Gary saw this whateverit was, except for he just saw
it moving in a different direction thanI did. And then all of a

(01:15:38):
sudden that just I mean like,yeah, I could have brushed off it
had just one but that just itraised the hair on the back of my
neck and I was just yeah,so I don't know what I was man,
but it creeped me out. Andthat is one I will completely back
you up on them, like Isaid, and like you said, there

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are a lot of really good paranormalinvestigators doing it a long time, like
people that you know. Those arethe people you go and say, hey,
you know, you ever had thiswacky stuff happening. You're like,
yeah, we're not going in thehouse. No, we're we're not going
anywhere. That's the one when youtalk to the Catholic priest and say,
hey, I need an extorcist,and the exorcist says, I'm on vacation
that week. Yeah, that's that'swhat that house is. Like Christian's like,

(01:16:24):
we gotta go. No, youdon't need to go to the house.
No, that house. See,this is where we differ. That
is who I am. That iswhat I do. You guys want in
the wood? Do you guys dowhatever? I like to go, you
know, But that is my elementand the woods is your element. Man,
I go out in the woods andlook for the other stuff. You
know, paranormal too. But Imean, yeah, I would rather run

(01:16:46):
into the ghosts than the big Footany day of the week. You know.
If you know, when we gotMax and you know back here talking
about is gryes. I know I'mnot pronouncing that, you know, but
you're getting talk with that whole manifestation. You know, folks like us going

(01:17:06):
over, they're going, yeah,we're gonna look for Bigfoot, you know,
and putting that out there, butthat the elemental that's there at that
house. Yeah, may show uplooking like Bigfoot, but it's gonna have
some funky, funky, funky stuff. And again, we know who's been
there, and I know who doesn'tever want to go back to that house.

(01:17:28):
And I watched what that house didto some people, like yeah sooned,
like literally they had to go back, like they dedicated their entire lives
to that house. You know,we talked about hin Hinsdale House being crazy
and the stuff we're there. Yeah, that house has got but we saw
creepy shit go from there to Hinsdaleonce. You know. You know.
The funny thing is too, Ididn't mention that um originally before we got

(01:17:55):
there, and Steph and Gary waslike, yeah, man, h,
maybe if you want to camp outyou know night and um etc. That
you know, he wasn't going tobecause he had a longer drive than me.
Of course, you know, anduh, you know, and I
had even brought some stuff I hadbrought, like a sleeping bag in the
tent and or no, no,no, I think I brought my I
think I brought my Um, Ibrought my burrito. This is what I

(01:18:17):
call it, my my, youknow, covered hammock yep ye and oh
yeah and so yeah, so Iactually brought all that stuff. But after
that, I'm like, no,I'm not. No, I'm not camping
here. I'm not camping out inhere. Well, and you know,
it's funny because before I really knewabout this place, Um, a friend

(01:18:39):
of ours? Where are you afriend of ours? Right? I remember
we were talking to him and Ihad picked up on some woman and described
this whole thing and mapped out thisarea for him. I had no idea
what area I was talking about,and I didn't even realize. I didn't

(01:19:00):
know him enough at the time toeven realize where he lived and what he
was talking about. He just waslike, Hey, this is where I
work, and something kind of happensaround this area, and I just tug
off of it, and come tofind out later it was that it was
those grounds. The person I wassticking up right in my right, MinC.

(01:19:24):
Wasn't that this? Okay? Yeah? So I mean we just we
have a lot of mutual friends thatlike ran the tours or like went two
different groups of people, and yeah, everybody gets touched after going there,
like literally, you know, somekind of traumatic experience after, you know.
And the folks that kept going backover and over again, they got

(01:19:45):
weirder by the by the like youknow, like these are people you dealt
with all the time. But youwere like, where's the big foot stuff?
Because there's something here. I wasthere with You're probably gonna if they
show up this weekend. It wasthere with with with a couple of law
enforcement guys and we were walking thehedgerow and the one of the biggest sco

(01:20:05):
scoptics and one of Steve's teams.It's like I got to use a tree.
Yeah all right, he's walking.I'm like, I got my night
coon. I'm just meandering down thefield. I'm like, yeah, you
know, I'm getting this. Maybemaybe not. And he's like, guys,
guys, I'm like, what it'shere whatever, you're the biggest skeptic

(01:20:28):
blah blah blah. And one wehere splash, and something run off in
two feet into the swamp and hecomes running out of the woods. And
this guy's a big guy, formerlaw enforce. He's trying to zip up
his fly and not getting them caughtwhile he's trying to you know, trying
to get ahold of his gun,the whole thing, and he's grabbing his
phone with the other the other hand, you know, and he's like calling

(01:20:51):
Steve, going, dude, it'shere, it's here. It's here,
it's here, it's here. Youneed to get here. It's here,
you know. And because I sawit, I saw it run away.
We went back. A couple ofweeks later. I'm with another group.
We're walking through stame exact area.It jumps out of a tree and it
out, it goes and we're like, that's not a bear coming out of

(01:21:14):
a tree. Like that jump outof trees anyway, right, But what
I was like looking at the guy, I'm like, yeah, whatever,
you know, you got something.And all a sudden you hear splash,
splash, slash, you know,like, okay, well this is the
time to leave the thermal in thecart. What's the middle of the day.
You're not gonna bring it with you. But yeah, yeah that that
caught me going for a couple ofweeks back out that place and I'm like,
yeah, not going, so yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. Hi,

(01:21:44):
yeah, oh hey we hand bysomebody. Yeah, let's see Hi
Scott from Poland. Wow, ohoh oh hello Hi Poland. Hello everybody
listening from Poland. Thank you fortuning in with us. Scott. Would

(01:22:10):
you like to tell us about thatencounter from your side or reach out to
me later because this is a story, Joe that you would absolutely want to
hear. Yeah, this is abouta you know, I saw them.
Yeah, we've all heard of themap and worry. Yeah. Yeah,

(01:22:33):
And Scott, I'm sorry about yourloss with Craig. I know we're back
on that time again. Um soyeah so bye. Yeah you want to
talk about that one, please letus know it's in a chat or just
throw me a message offline. Um, the cheese will give you my my

(01:22:57):
email address. But I definitely wantto hear his his runthrough on on that
experience. That's uh. You cango look at Ray's experience back on some
other shows, Steve interviewed him andstuff to when to work guys. Um
so this weekend we will be toTako. I'm gonna look forward to seeing

(01:23:23):
you guys, man, um,and uh, you know, hopefully we'll
get to do maybe a little bitof an investigation while we're there. You
know, I won't be there.I hope you guys have fun. I
mean, the thing it's really excitingto me also is that, you know,
Steve was mentioning. He was like, oh, man, and you
can hang out afterwards and at thebonfire with everybody you know, And so

(01:23:46):
I'm like, okay, cool.Then I don't really be able to get
to have a one on one maybewith Meldrum. Um. And I've I've
spoke to him twice now, umin person, but you know, he
had it was a couple of conferencesand he got billions of people wanting to
talk to him. So I didn'thave a really good conversation, you know,
a long conversation. So this willgive me that opportunity hopefully. And

(01:24:10):
I'm like you mentioned earlier, man, what it is is that the thing
I'm really excited about is, yeah, I want to hear Steve speak definitely,
because I love listening to him.Um. But I really really sorry,
Joe, I'm not laughing at youpourgot Jen, If you're here,

(01:24:31):
you better to let your the otherhalf noise getting beat up here president for
the rest of us. But likeyou mentioned, man, I don't you
know if we if we do alittle investigation. Man, you know,
I'm not going affecting anything to happen. I'm just going out, just like

(01:24:53):
you said, get out in thewoods with a couple of good friends.
Man. And you know what ifif something happened, if something turns up,
all well and good. If itdoesn't, I'm still out there having
a good time with you guys.And you know that's that's that's I hope
you guys have good weather. It'sbeen really bad here. Let's be Yeah.

(01:25:14):
So with that, I'll say I'lllet you guys bring somebody else.
Thank you for joining us, Joe. Let every let everybody know where to
find your channel, Wow, WesternNew York Bigfoot Investigation Group and uh yeah,
I mean anybody that's not already subscribeto it. Man, if you

(01:25:39):
guys want to subscribe, that's great. Um. Check out the stuff I
do on there, the podcast.They're pretty cool. Um. Matt was
just on it, uh last night. Um, I think it was one
of my best actual podcasts. Man, I enjoyed that one really a whole
lot. So, and you gotthose sightings guys in Western New York.

(01:26:00):
Yeah, my phone numbers listened onthe page. Man, you can call
me anytime if you have a sighting. I mean to come out and take
a look around. And you knowthat's because that's what I do. That's
what I used to do, youknow. But Joe, she's she's picking
up on something. Great. Iheard it your voice. Sorry, dude,

(01:26:25):
wonderful. See you don't want yourmessage, sure, give it to
me, all right. So yourfather's passed correct? Yes, what was
his first name? Jay? Spellit Jay? Okay. All I know
is I got this overwhelming feeling likeyour dad was around me. I can't

(01:26:47):
see him. He's he's communicating ina certain way. So that tells me
he was not able to communicate eithereffectively or all at the time he passed.
Whether it was two minutes or sixmonths, it doesn't matter, is
that correct? I don't understand.So he wasn't. So at the time
your dad passed away, he wasunable to communicate either effectively or at all.

(01:27:09):
Oh yeah, um, probably,I mean I wasn't there when he
when he did. So okay,I was like halfway across the country when
it happened. So okay, sobig. Well, first, like I
felt like it was almost like abig, warm hug from behind. Does
that make sense to you? Um, he came up on me from behind

(01:27:33):
me? Yeah, he wasn't reallya physical huggy guy. Um. Okay,
I mean, you know, butmaking his presence known in being there?
Is that fair to say? Yeah? Okay, because he came up
from behind me as what he calledme when I was a little kid.

(01:27:54):
Okay, so it was very little, a little bumb So the what it
was was I saw somebody jump,and what I got from that was you
need to take the plunge. Doyou understand, like, I feel like

(01:28:15):
there's something you need to do,and I feel like you probably are pondering
something, and I feel like youprobably are or entertaining an idea or whatever
the case says. You need totake the plunge. You need to jump
into it. Okay, do youunderstand that? Does that make sense to
you? Okay, you got todo it, and he's going now now,

(01:28:36):
not later. You don't don't takeany more time to think about it
because you're like, well, Ineed to wrap my head around this,
and I don't know, maybe I'lllook into it a little more. He's
like, no, just do itbecause you already know and it's going to
work out. You have to doit now or you're gonna miss the opportunity.
I wonder if it has anything todo with Bigfoot, because he's the
one that pointed out the show tome when I was fourteen years old.

(01:29:00):
Whatever it is that you're thinking about, or whatever it is you're you're interested
in doing or looking into doing,just you need to just do it.
Maybe he's trying to tell me I'llsee Roster again if I go out there.
I don't know. That is avery very very interesting area. And
you know, I feel very honoredto you that you actually took you know,

(01:29:24):
the two of us up there tokind of me and Paul and show
us that area. I mean thatarea. It definitely has got some interesting
and we've actually been digging around closeto there recently and seen some interesting stuff.
So one of those last minute we'regetting in the car and go,
and that's when you were covering there. But yeah, I've done a whole

(01:29:45):
lot of different like reports from aroundthat general area all around in there.
You know, that includes all thosethe other place that we went to too
nearby, yep, it includes thatarea and even going out west um towards
Kuba yep. Yeah. Interesting.Well, thanks, you're welcome. Thanks

(01:30:11):
brother, say you're coming on andI'll see you this weekend. Yes,
have a fabulous weekend. We havea great show. Yeah right bye wow.
Yeah, guys, go over andtake a look at his channel.
Look at his channel. Max isin here, Uh you know Max in
here. Yeah, there's some great, great big foot channels. They're always

(01:30:34):
you know, a good bunch ofguys. Great you know. But I
think what I like about these guysis in particular, is that you not
like I'm like, you know,well versed in all this stuff on your
end of things. But you know, I've listened to some of my welco
mainly because you've made me listen tosome of my fair share of our friends

(01:30:56):
are honor you get stuck listening.But no, seriously, I think I
really feel like these guys Matt andMax and Joe, and you know,
they are some of the more downto earth and see even Steve. You
know, like it's easy to listento them, you know, so for
someone like me who is interested,who does dip my foot, you know,

(01:31:17):
every so often or a little morethan every so often. But you
know, I'm not in the woodswith you guys like you guys are,
but it's it's enough where I wantto be able to listen and participate.
It's easy to listen to it becausesometimes when it gets too involved, some
of these guys out here don't alwayspresent things in a way where someone like
me could come in and understand orwant to listen to it. It's it's

(01:31:40):
almost like having a normal conversation andthat really helps a lot. And they're
just fun and easy going and it'sjust good time to listen to them.
But they know what they're talking abouttoo, So it's really you know,
I think our big thing is andI enjoy getting out with these guys.
These are guys that go out inthe woods with I think want to get
out in the woods with because it'sthe friendship and hanging out there and you

(01:32:02):
know Joe, Joe brings his dogor other buddy brings you know, his
and you know we can be inchill out there. I wish I could
bring my two knuckleheads. But theywould find a big foot and then leave
me, probably if they were anycookies involved. Um, you know,
it's sunny, but it's it's thepractical sense of passing what they've learned or

(01:32:28):
they've done along to the next general. And Joe has been doing it a
long time. And I met himyears ago and we didn't it was just
crazy. We'd bounced it. Andagain white Hall, white Hall brought us
together. And you know we're onlyfifteen minutes down the street from each other,
and and we're digging through the samearea. Um Scott, I definitely,

(01:32:49):
you know, thank you guys fromfrom tuning in, especially this time
in the morning in Poland. Ireally want to hear you know, you're
you're running, I know and repeatingmyself on that one. Um. You
know. And and you know ourbuddy who does like the ghost hunt with
a ten millimeter, Yeah, Ithink I'm gonna have to find one of

(01:33:10):
those you know, retro ghostbuster youknow, plasma cans like we said there
for him. Um PSA, everybody, you cannot shoot the ghost with the
gun. It just does not work. I don't care what kind of gun
you have. I don't care whatyou're eating, for it ain't gonna happen.
Actually, get him a squirt gunwith holy water. I might work,

(01:33:32):
um, but oh we love you, you know. Yeah, And
actually I need to set him downwith Joe and yes because common knowledge,
common knowledge on that area, ummanin thirty already. Oh no, all

(01:33:57):
right, So recap this Sunday.I will be in Buffalo, New York
at the Banshee Psychic Fair at theBanshee Irish Pub Spanners there we go Dune
Dune done, giving private readings,so come out and see us all.
There will be a whole bunch ofus there, vendors, the whole bit.
The sixteenth of November, I amoffering my s Meet your Spirit Guides

(01:34:21):
online workshop, so you can beanywhere you want to be to take this
workshop. It's really fun. Wehave a good time. It's discussion.
It's some meditation, and don't worry, it's not like meditation like you think.
It's. It's guided. I doit for you and with you the
last year. But I did itwith had a great time. So that's
a good evening. So and againI didn't make a slide because it's not

(01:34:45):
my event. But and I'm notspeaking. I'm going because it's an awesome
time. And that's Peter Wimers.I've seen Bigfoot the Stocko Lake Bigfoot Festival
in de Wittville, New York,and I think, Oh, I gotta
think I put a link over onmy Insta or no, it's over on
my Facebook. You put it onthe Insta. The the small Town Monsters

(01:35:09):
Beyond the Trail of that Alexander Pettikoffdid with Eli Watson and myself and Steve
Carls and and Emily from the ForestFloor and Levi from the Forest Floor.
Um, it's a great time,guys, if you're looking for some really
cool scenery. They got some greatdrone footage of the mountains. Um.
But those guys get again, there'sanother bunch of guys and girls. I

(01:35:33):
like getting out in the woods withYeah, go out for a hike.
Oh what did we find? Guesswhat we've got? Thermal of this or
we we you know, showing thoseguys how to use UV light for different
you know, biological plants, animalsand all right, listen, ten you

(01:35:54):
come to that benchion you don't tellme who you are. I'm gonna have
a conniption. Come on, promiseme you're gonna introduce yourself and tell me
who you are. Look, it'sprobably somebody we know too, right,
it's probably oh yeah yeah, umyeah yeah. So we're gonna be on

(01:36:17):
more often. Um, we're workingon getting our schedules bounced around. Do
we actually have a straight schedule?So my schedule is not going to be
bouncing. Her schedule is not goingto be bouncing. And we'll be out
at a lot more events trying todo plus with them a break. Well,
oh goodness, he finally showed upand yes, you know, we

(01:36:45):
gotta get to get Ray's got anew place we gotta go all right.
Oh he loves some trail cams ata crazy place. Yes, okay,
hey, I will I only knowyou guy through here. Oh all right,

(01:37:06):
ten, So I said, ifhe needs to introduce himself to me,
all right, so we'll take aselfie. All right, we'll take
a picture. So you gotta tellme who you are. Ray. We
gotta get into woods this weekend again, Chittaco Lake. Um, we'll be
down there. Please go look overit at small town Monster stuff guys.
You know they got some great stuff. Um, and make sure you start

(01:37:30):
checking out Behind the Shadows decades onYouTube here and um also on UH and
Paraflix because the episodes that we havefilmed will be coming out. I'm not
sure when, but you want tocatch up on all the different seasons.
It's been out for a long time. So and I was actually on the
Clinton Barn Grill episode from Oh myGosh, already crazy, I lest shoot

(01:37:53):
a bad ghost ray you're killing me? Well now I know it's not.
I can't. I'm I'm gonna geta little spree bottle of saves that you
know. I think I gotta makea couple more up. So oh,
okay, guys, had a greattime tonight. I appreciate all of you.

(01:38:14):
Please like, share, subscribe,Um. Like I said, the
transition is here. We are YouTubenow, or we are we are not.
We are not YouTube. We areon YouTube. There you go.
Um, you know, I don'tthink I look at my Facebook account how
much anymore? Maybe no you don't. Yeah, so Instagram, yeah,

(01:38:36):
just social media. And we're notgoing to go down that whole do we
deal with aliens or whatever? BecauseI think that AI kind of is a
crazy of what we get because ofsocials. Um, awesome, Thanks Ray,
give him my phone number. Let'sthank you, thank you, thanks

(01:38:58):
everybody for watching us tonight. Openingin all right, I'm mumbling, yes,
you are, all right, everybody. So I will post the next
show coming up here, and maybewe'll try to throw a reading show in
for Halloween. Maybe we'll depend onlike sports schedule here. Maybe we'll try
to do a reading show before Halloweenhere. But all right, so yeah,

(01:39:20):
keep your eye on our pages,keep your eyes open for the advertisements,
and we'll we'll get it up soon, all right everyone. So in
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