Free speaking

Maugs and the chef talk about where our freedom of speech is going whether that is ok.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Ah, when did we all get this dump? Almost only
counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear warfare. I don't
see anybody, so it doesn't count.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm angry.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
I'm the chef.

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That helps us move up in the algorithms and things
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to we're talking about freedom of speech. And honestly, we
had this whole thing all lined up up and wired
up and set up and somehow we had a glitch

(03:06):
and lost about thirty twenty to thirty minutes of the
beginning of our podcast. So I'm gonna get in here
kind of give you some context of where we're at,
and then we'll move it into what we have recorded
for you and guys, and hopefully you guys get some
good content to get some good ideas, good thoughts. This

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helps build a foundation, and that's really where we're at
here is we're building the foundation to your own ideas.
So if we can give you some thoughts on those
ideas and you say, oh, yeah, I like that, I
like those facts, and we're trying to bring you the facts.
And so we're talking about freedom of speech. After there

(03:50):
were two incidences from social media owners two or three now,
there was an inocent where I think it was the
owner of Telegram was arrested in France for not censoring

(04:13):
or not not monitoring his his social media company enough
that there were bad actors working on it. You there
there were you know, drugs, drug cartels and things of
that nature.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
And there were people who were.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Running track different kinds of track, trafficking, uh, people trafficking, sex, trafficking,
you know, slave trafficking that kind of thing on there,
and that he hadn't the the owner hadn't monitored that
enough or censored his his viewership enough that you know,
there was also some some false news and and things

(04:59):
of that nature. Sure, and so you know that just
it starts to beg the question of you know, freedom
of speech, freedom of ownership of a company. I mean,
obviously your company cannot promote an illegal act like sex
trafficking and things of that nature, and and that kind

(05:24):
of thing should be shut down. But you know, they
they also sent out the European Union sent out a
strongly worded letter to Facebook about censoring for things of COVID.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
And and things of that nature.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
And and the NEGA didn't call it censoring, but it's
monitoring the verbiage and fake news and the false misinformation
that they send out. And so we got we thought
we'd get on here and kind of talk about, you
know what, why freedom of speeches is important, and you

(06:03):
know what's going on with freedom of speech. I know
that they were also talking about Rumble, which we we
broadcast on and the owner of Rumble fled, fleet fled,
flood fled. The European Union so that he wouldn't be
you know, arrested or whatever because he runs a social

(06:27):
media company. That is it's it's more on the the
the leaning of you know, center to conservative and you know,
they's just become a haven that you know, people like
us that we're counter to the culture can find a

(06:47):
space to continue to to put out our word and
to put out the information that people need to hear
without feeling like we're being you know, shadow band or
we're being held back. And so you know that's a

(07:08):
that's what's again, you know that they that's kind of
what we're seeing here is that you know, things are
are starting to get you know, bad things are are
starting to get controlled. We saw in uh that's the
you know Anglican church in in England start is starting

(07:28):
to control its verbiage of church. You know, church is
becoming a bad a bad word or a bad you know,
having a bad connotation in all in religious and non
religious groups that you know, religion is is is holding
us back and things of that nature. And so we

(07:50):
wanted to get on and and and have a chat
about it. Part of what you know, when we when
I kick in and hear what we're chatting about is
is that you know, intent of a word, you know,
intent of something you've said. It is hard, it's a

(08:13):
hard thing to legislate. So if if you you know,
if if you get into some of this, some of
these hate crimes and stuff like that, you know, now
you have to have to start to prove intent of
what you did. And they're starting to try to figure
out the intent in what you said. And they're trying
to use some AI algorithms and and things like that

(08:35):
to to read your body language, to read you know,
they've been doing that for a long time. Is to
read your eye movements to you know, to read all
of this to find what the intent of it is.
Is this a joke? Are you a comedian or is
you know, are you trying to be a comedian and

(08:57):
you're just terrible at it? And somebody, you know, somebody offended,
you know that kind of thing, and so you know,
it's just it's it's it's one of those deals where
it comes down to who who is allowed who is

(09:18):
allowed to decide who how if if it's if it's offensive.
You know, we go to this or harassment meeting their
you know, for for our jobs and stuff like that,
and they say, well, anybody, if you tell a joke
and it and it offends somebody, that's harassment. It's creating

(09:42):
a hostile work environment. Somebody's offended. So you know, just
be careful what you you know, what jokes you tell. Well,
if you tell a joke of any kind, jokes in
general are talk about, you know, are can be against somebody.
So you know the intent of something is it's hard

(10:06):
to read. And so that's that's kind of what what
we're talking about. And you know, we looked at the
I looked up. It's not hard to find a bunch
of stuff on the First Amendments free speech, and it
says that the First Amendment only prevents government restriction on speech.

(10:29):
It does not prevent restrictions on speech imposed by private individuals.
So people like Facebook, people like you know, x or
or Instagram or whatever that want to censor you, they
can because they are private entities.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
There's no you know, there's no.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yes, you think it's a public forum, but it isn't
a public forum because they can restrict who goes on there.
They can restrict who you know, So it's a it's
it's a private, private entity. And so they're not covered
by by freedom of speech. But the problem is is
that we don't hold them accountable. You know, we could,

(11:19):
we could hold them accountable, and then then we would
have a more freer spot. But so the other thing
that we looked at was that what is what is
protected by free speech? Free speech protects everything but fighting words.

(11:40):
Fighting words are words meant to incite violence such as
such that they may not be protected by free speech.
Basically under the under the First Amendment, if you yell
fire in a in a theater and that theater erupts

(12:08):
in panic and everything like that, that's not protected in
free speech. Even though yelling fire in a theater is
not illegal because.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
You don't know the outcome.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
You know, you could yell fire in a theater and
no one believed, you know, everyone look over and laugh
at you, and then it's not illegal. But if you
insight some kind of violence or some kind of of issue,
then it's not free speech anymore. And unfortunately, you know

(12:50):
that came through in nineteen forty two. You know, it's
the same thing with you know, the the anti Semitic,
anti semitism laws that you know now where you know, yes,
it seems like a good idea, and in most instances

(13:14):
it is. But if I disagree now with the Jewish population,
am I anti Semitic? If I say that the Jews
killed Jesus? Is that a anti Semitic proclamation? And so
intent is a very very tough thing to do or

(13:36):
to prove. And this is kind of where what we're
talking about when we're getting into this, and I'll let
you just kind of decide where we're at on it.
I you know, this is this is where we're at.
We need, you know, we need to be learning how
to disseminate and how to figure out the information and
figure it out for ourselves. So because we're getting so

(13:59):
much information from both sides that you know, a lot
of it isn't true, a lot of it's not facts.
And so what they're what what the First Amendment is
is about, is it's about having free speech no matter what.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
It's not about your intent.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
And so this is this is where we get into
the pre speech stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
They want to meet in our culture and our judicial system,
where we allow that to happen, that that ends in
nothing good, that's probably good.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
And that's and that's even because I remember they they
they And I've said this. I know, I know I'm
beating a dead horse here, but and I've said this
a lot of times on the podcast, is that I
remember when I was I was in fifth grade when
they when they started to put into legislation hate crimes

(14:57):
and and the the verbiage or for hate crimes. And
I remember thinking in fifth grade, I remember thinking, well,
if they say something, if it if it, if if
you say something against somebody, joke or anything, and they
finally decide that, you know, they get to the point

(15:20):
where they're sensitive, sensitive enough to decide that that's now
a hate crime. You know, like what is a joke?
A joke is finding it is finding something about somebody
that is different than other people, and everybody kind of
laughs about it. And sometimes that you know, and and
it can be offensive to the person or the people

(15:44):
that you're you're making fun of. Is it harmless, Sure,
as long as it's as long as it stops right there.
But if someone perceives it, like you said, as it's
not being a harmless joke, as it's being pushed on

(16:05):
as hateful or or things like that, and then it
becomes more than just a joke. Whether it was intended
to be just a joke or not. We uh, I
hate to admit this, but me and my wife watched
these the these kind of the the these live games

(16:33):
like Survivor or or or or things like real reality TV.
That's it, yeah, reality TV shows. And we just we
just started watching this uh Deal or No Deal Island,
which is kind of like this week spin off of
Survivor and Dealer No Deal and uh you know that

(16:56):
kind of thing. But they're not really surviving because they
have these nice cushy tents and they kind of talk
to each other from from time to time in on
the beach, and they have then they have some like
survival style things where they have to find the cases
and stuff like that, and then they play a case

(17:16):
game and honestly, from the outside, from like from with
my you know, my thinking, I'm thinking, you know, they're
playing this game at the end, and it's like, this
isn't about the numbers, this isn't about you know, this
is purely about the odds that you have and the
talking back and forth, like the one guy is stirring

(17:39):
the pot so that he doesn't get voted off, and
he's he he took what somebody said was as a joke.
He's like, she said, you know, she looks over and
she's like, I'm gonna get you guys, or something like that,
and he just to continue to you know, stir the
pot against her, says, well, I didn't think it was

(18:00):
I thought it was kind of kind of kind of aggressive,
and that it was you know, didn't seem like a joke. No,
And you know, in the interview room, he's like, it
was one hundred percent joke. I understand it was a joke.
He goes, but I got to stay in this game.
And I feel like, I feel like a lot of

(18:21):
times we get to the point like we've we've we've
desensitized ourselves so much that we're you know, we've we've
peeled off our levels of sensitivity, and now we're so
sensitive that if someone, if if someone says a joke
about our people, then we're, you know, oh, this is

(18:42):
you know, reparations and and things and and we've got,
you know, we gotta get you know, this is this
is this is heresy, this is this is against us.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
But let me ask you this. You don't I'd like
to get your opinion on this Uh, this is kind
of going back for a while. But it used to be.
Pardon me because I'm the old man, but I thought
it used to be. My memory of the way things
used to be is we could hear someone tell a

(19:13):
joke and it might be distasteful, but we let it go.
We round on like we didn't feel like we had
to penalize them or beat them up, or ostracize them
or run them into the ground. We accepted it that. Okay,
it's not something I would have laughed at, it's not
something I really enjoyed. To give them some space, you

(19:36):
turn around, you walk away, and you don't feel like
you have to demand a retribution for what they said
or did. But when did that change? Here? And it
seems like now whenever someone says a joke that could
be misconstrued or not that the offending person feels like
they have to demand blood, They need to have some

(20:00):
some retro retribution needed out because that person offended me
and and damaged my psyche. So am I imagining that change?
Have you in your lifetime? Have you seen that change?
And it used to be people got I would say,
got along pretty decent. You know, it would be not

(20:21):
you didn't agree with everybody, but when you disagreed, you said,
well that's his idea, and you didn't feel like you
had to, you know, squeeze. But out of the tournament,
make him spect. What's your thoughts? Has that changed? There's
my imagination.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
So I think there's three things that have affected that.
So at one point we were super patriotic, and we
we did not agree with everybody, but we agreed that
the freedom that this country allowed for you to be

(20:59):
dis agreeable was worth it. So you may not agree
with people burning the flag, but you agree that the
ability to have that free expression is worth the fighting
that we've done in other countries and the wars that
we've won, and the people we've lost to win those wars,

(21:23):
and the and these rights. Yes, and so partially with
our school systems and things like that, we've weeded out
a lot of patriotism. We no longer do a lot
of our historical patriotism. We don't build a love for
this country anymore. We don't build you know, at at

(21:47):
one point, you know, you you you had you would
sit down and think, do I go into the military
and sacrifice that time of my life for our country?
Or do I just or or is my time spent
better doing something in the country to make our make

(22:12):
my community better. Yes, so you may you you would
you would do one of two things, either that or
this the other one of the other things that have
come along that has has hurt our ability to interact socially.
Is the internet used to be someone told a told

(22:36):
an off color joke and and you and it was
it offended you, you know, whether it was you know, morally,
or it offended you, uh, you know, in your in
your faith or whatever. You would say. You would say, hey,

(22:59):
that's that wasn't my kind of deal, That's not my
kind of joke. Or you would just realize that that
person isn't somebody that you're going out to eat with
later or not going to be your best friend, and
so you would steer clear from that person. For the
most part, you would do your job together. You don't
have to be friends to work together, right, And I mean,

(23:20):
you're not a work family for real unless you build
that kind of community.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
But you didn't feel like you had to ostracize that
person either.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
But right, you were going to work with that person,
but you weren't going to go hang out with them afterwards. Yeah,
and you didn't have to make it awkward at work,
you had to make it work.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Right, But I think the Internet has come along, and
you know the world has gotten smaller. We're all standing
on top of each other's toes because you can see
this on YouTube and this person is putting this out
and this person is having a having this and and
I went to this place and I'm a hehe them,

(24:07):
you know they person, and you know all of that.
And so you put your business out there and then
you get and then you get all offended that someone
didn't agree with your business. Well, you're the one that
decided to put it out there, and we don't take
that kind of of responsibility anymore. You know, words, words

(24:32):
don't have the power that they used to in the
fact that you don't weigh what you say, right, people
don't weigh what they say. I mean, you may personally,
but people in general will go out there and type
their whatever's out there. And you know, it's funny to
hear the new slang and stuff like that, but some

(24:53):
of this new slang, you're like that, you know, some
of the old slang didn't mean anything, because if you
just make a word mean whatever. Then it just means whatever.
That's that's language in general. You know, you make it
so that the reason we have languages so that we
can communicate with each other.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
And so.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Third thing that has has kind of has kind of corrupted,
that is that the welfare, so welfare in the in
the beginning, we got some things from the government. We
needed some things coming out of the Great Depression. But
do you want to do it like I guess what
people don't realize about the Great Depression is that the regulations.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
In in.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
The stock market are what destroyed the stock market at
that time. It wasn't the fact that somebody was super
super greedy and took super extra you know, took all
these profits and took all the money out of the
out of the stock market. It was the fact that
we read that we regulated the stock market and not

(26:13):
allowed the stock market to regulate itself, because capitalism will
regulate itself. Yes, somebody may become super wealthy and become
you know, that person who creates Google becomes the wealthiest
person in the world. But at some point that person,

(26:34):
because of nature, will realize, will will quit innovating, and
somebody will come up underneath them with a better innovation,
and Google will lose its its market share. That's how
it always works. That's how it worked with with the Rockefellers.

(26:56):
That's how it worked with Carnegie. People came in with
the cheaper as as good or option and they lost
their market share. Whirlpool at one time had eighty percent
of the market share. Well, in our in our legalistic society,

(27:20):
eighty percent is a monopoly. You can't do that. Well.
LG has now come in, Samsung has now come in.
All of these different companies have come in and taken
part of that market share, and they've come in with
more innovative products. We now have, you know, refrigerators that
can order your own groceries.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
But we don't.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
But but we don't see that as part of the regulation.
We just want ours Now. That guy's got a lot
more than I do. And I don't care whether he
works twice as hard or seventeen thousand times as hard.
It doesn't look like it. He's just making money hand
over fist. We saw that in the in the food
truck industry. When I started my food truck, it was

(28:05):
super early on in the way that food trucks ran
and people just thought we were just out there pirrating food.
You know, we would sit in front of if we
sat near a restaurant, we're stealing from those restaurants. And
I would tell people, I'm like, listen, if my truck
is better than your restaurant, you got an issue. I'm

(28:27):
coming in with food that people want to eat, and
I don't provide them seats. I don't provide them service to,
you know, at their table. I don't provide them drinks
at their table. Then you need to think about this.
You need to think that your service and the way
that you're providing your food isn't isn't strong enough to

(28:51):
detract from me sitting out there in a vehicle making food.
That's food, And so I think that we don't. Look,
you know, we're now in that point and at that
point where the government has said, look, I'll take care
of you. And so we say we're offended, and we

(29:13):
go to the government and the government takes care of that.
Now it's illegal.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, I wanted to follow up on a couple of
your points that I thought were really good. At the
first point you made was about patriotism and the willingness
of our previous generations to put their lives at risk
or to do special jobs here at home to improve

(29:41):
our culture and keep our country safe. But that seems
to me that patriotism is predicated on a belief that
there's something better to protect then my own desires, my
own vis my own safety. It's a recognition that I

(30:05):
can put myself at risk for something better, like protection
of my family, protection of my friends, protection of the
value system and the beliefs that I have. And if
I wonder if our reduction in patriotism these days is

(30:27):
kind of suffering from us not recognizing that there are
higher values and higher ethical principles than just what I
want to do. I think would become very self centered
and self absorpty people anymore. And the second kind of
follows up with that same thought, and that your point

(30:50):
about we just have to find to make find a
way of making it work. Well, there was a time
where people weren't as affluent. People relied on one another.
Even if you go back to the bargrarian history of
our country, when there are more people that had to
work in the fields and the farms, they helped one

(31:10):
another out. I mean, if one person needed their hey bailed,
the farmer next might come over and help them bail
their hay, and vice versa. There was a cooperation and
an effort to make things work. I'd like that phrase
you said, people needed to find a way of making
things work work. There was a mutual experience of how

(31:33):
people could get along. It wasn't an antagonistic to be honest.
Some of it was out of necessity, but still it
was a good glove to hold people together to make
a positive out of two difficult situations that people could
come together work together. So then that kind of the

(31:54):
follow up to your thought about a recognition of something
higher that we needed to tend actually sacrifice ourselves for,
like patriotism in a country, the well being of defensive family,
to understanding that, yeah, we've got to make it work together.
We've got to find a way of working together. And
I like both of those themes that you brought out.

(32:15):
I wanted just to emphasize those because I think those
two ideas and the other one you brought on the
third one is the government control. I think that is
a major threat to family, friends, society that once the
government becomes in control, when they dole out welfare, then

(32:39):
they also become your bed partner too. They can tell
you what you have to do. And now we're ever
more increasingly particularly when you think about free speech and
censorship not only dependent on the government being controlled by
the government. And I think those things really resonate with

(33:02):
me in the struggles that we have now A lot
of times can go back to those things you mentioned.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Well, I think we've talked about. You know, the the
buzzword these days is is is socialism? Well, I don't
know why we don't why we wouldn't want to do socialism,
because you know, everybody get put pools their their stuff
together and no one has more than another. But if
you look at it in the truest form, patriotism is

(33:35):
the pure a pure form of socialism because you're going
to pool your resources, your talents to make your country better.
You're going to take what you do and add it
to the pot.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
But the.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Difference, though, Aaron, is there's a major difference, and that
is patriots The patriotism is voluntary. Socialism is not voluntary.
It's important, I know, yeah, And I think that's that
there is a major difference.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
I think in in in its in its in its
thought and idea it is, it is a is a
it is a thought of everybody. You know, that's where
they That's where I, like I said, critical thinking is
it's got to be You've got to look at all
of the levels. But if you take it back to

(34:29):
its simplest form, and I I one hundred percent believe
that people thought when they when they started developing a
socialistic style of of life, that they thought, look at
the Amish, there isn't really a major ruler over everybody.

(34:55):
Now you can you watch those shows and you can
see that they're you know that there is some oppression
and things of that nature. And that's not about that's
not the system being wrong. That's people being wrong. And
I think that does come down to there is a
flaw in all of us. You know, we do have
a sin nature as as you know, Christians, as people

(35:18):
on this planet. Is that they're you know, you don't
have to teach somebody how to do how to get
around the system. You know, one had to teach me
how to speed in my car. You know, I just
do a good job of that myself. And you know,
no one had to teach me how to get you know,

(35:39):
it's like my daughter the other day, she wanted some
more animal crackers. She came to me and said, Dad,
can I have some more animal crackers? I said no,
So she went to her mom. Her mom hadn't heard
what I said. So her mom says, yeah, go ahead
and get some more animal crackers. And so she got
more animal crackers because she's two and a half and

(36:00):
it's super cute. But in socialism, I think it started
out as you know, each of us come together with
our strengths and we pull those together. At one point,
some dudes out there trying to make he's trying to

(36:21):
grow tomatoes and carrots and beets and potatoes and cows
and pigs and chickens and you know, just be able
to provide everything that his family needed. And he realized, dude,
I could grow a lot of carrots if you over
there grew a lot of potatoes. And so then when
we became a governmental society of socialism, then yes, someone

(36:47):
controls this deal. And when we allow someone to control
our freedoms, well they're not free anymore, YEA.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
That there's a difference. What you're saying, I think is
that there's a difference between communal and community caring for
one another and sharing and making things work, as opposed
to someone some higher up authority that you don't know,
that they don't know you saying you've got to do

(37:22):
it this way.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
There's difference in the philosophy, the philosophy and the actual
governmental system. When you put yourself in a system, there's rules, regulations,
there's things that stop you. The only ever time that
everything is going to be fair is if there's no

(37:44):
one up there controlling things. Then you fight it out.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
You have the same.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Opportunity to make whatever of yourself as anyone else, and
if you put yourself in situations where you can't move up,
then that's on you. But it's taking responsibility on yourself.
You know, I I have in my life, I've had

(38:11):
every every opportunity to to better myself into a into
a spot where probably financially I could be in a
lot better spot. But I've also looked at the things
that are important to me and decided and taken some

(38:32):
hard decisions that probably didn't help me financially, but furthered
my life as a lifestyle in fulfillment ways, you know,
ways that I can You know that I just I
you know, I feel like that I've been able to

(38:52):
impact and affect other people's lives, and I've been able
to be a more impactful person as a posed to
you know, heck, I went to one of the best
culinary schools in the nation. And not to say, but
I have the skills and the imagination and the creativity

(39:13):
to be one of the top chefs in the country.
But I also have the the thought process that to
do that is a lot of hard work to do
that your your food and your your your lifestyle becomes

(39:34):
a religion of food. You know, you you work the weekends,
you work the holidays, you work all of you know,
you work the hours, and your restaurant becomes your church
and your sanctuary and your home. And you know, you
you fight it out and and that's and and to

(39:55):
really make it go, that's the way you do it,
you know. You you you build this one, and then
you build the next one, and then you build the
next one. And so I would have been replacing my
lifestyle with you know, my my Christian lifestyle with a
food lifestyle. And unfortunately, you know, that's you know, unfortunately

(40:17):
for the way that I was I was living my
life at that time, you know, there there wasn't a
creator there. I was the creator, I you know, and
so there there wasn't you know, there wasn't a future.
It was me being the creator till I ran myself

(40:38):
in the ground as a as a false creator. And
so you know, I stepped I had to step out
of that. I had to, you know, I had to
make the hard decision too. You know, I can do
I can do so much and I can I can
be so much and uh, if that doesn't work out,
then there's something else.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Well, what I hear you're saying, Aaron, and I deeply
respect the decisions you've made. But what I hear you're
saying is that you had to be true to yourself
as who you are generally as a person, and you
had to follow I shouldn't say you had to. You

(41:22):
chose to follow the principles and the values that allowed
you to grow as a person rather than grow as
a professional chef, because you saw that one direction would
take you away from family and friends and personal growth,

(41:42):
where the other path would help you fulfill those values
that you you know cherished and that helped you growth
as a person as a Christian. And you know, I
wish every person had that same personal insight to be
able to make those honest decisions, because, as you say,

(42:06):
those are difficult decisions when you see that you're sacrificing
certain things because of your desire to adhere to your
personal values, and you see other people kind of pursuing
the next book, you know, the next step up in

(42:28):
the bureaucracy or the corporation. Right, and I but my
concern is you are enough. You are a self How
do I say you're a self contained person in a
sense that you aren't easily influenced by a lot of

(42:54):
the stuff going around. You know, to you to be successful,
we've got to do this, and to be liked, you've
got to do this and this and this. But there
are a lot of other people. What I worry about
is there's a lot of other people who don't have
that ability to be discerning about what they hear and

(43:20):
reflect or the ability to reflect enough about is this
really true? Is this really a narrative that I really
want to pursue. Is this really something I should pursue?
Is it something I need to because I want to
feel good about myself or I want to be accepted
by the group. I want to be part of the crowd.

(43:43):
I want to be part of the in group. There's
so many other people hearing that, hear those messages and
don't have that self confidence that you do that. The
grounding you do a better words, you have a moral
grounding that you're not going to be easily pulled into

(44:03):
something that is anathetical to you. But your moral grounding
these but how do you how do you do that?
How do you preserve that when you see and you
I know, you've worked with a lot of youth over
the years in your church group and stuff. You know
from your experience and working with young people, not that

(44:25):
you're not young, You're still young.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
I'm so old.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
I'm feeling I've been feeling so old this week.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
So, but what's your advice to young people now who
hear all these voices around them? You know, all these
strange speeches, strange voices saying do this, do that? What's
your advice to young people these days? Because they are
swamped by it?

Speaker 1 (44:46):
So I guess it comes down to like, and this
is kind of to bring it back to the free
speech deal. You know what, why is free speech important?
And it comes down to you have to be you.
You have to get to a point where, like you said,

(45:07):
you're comfortable in your skin. And so to get to
that point, you can make the argument, oh, that's you
know that you're born with that kind of confidence, and
I don't. I don't think one hundred percent you are
born with that kind of confidence. I think I think
we've lost we've lost parental engagement in in a lot

(45:28):
of our our children, you know. And that's and that's
part of the reason.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
That i'm I'm I do this.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
That's part of the reason that I do what I
do is so that you know, our our daughter grows
or my daughter grows up with parental engagement, like I
want her to know that she she can you know,
she can think for herself. That responsibility is on her.
You know, we're teaching her right now, and this is

(45:56):
you know, it's this tongue in and tongue in cheek
teaching her, but we're teaching right now that she's responsible
for her passy.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
And if she goes someplace doesn't have a pass then
she doesn't have a passy. And so you know, I still.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I was gonna say, that's because you've forgotten ten or
twenty times, so now she has.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
To and part of it is is like, listen, listen,
this isn't on me, this is this.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Isn't my I didn't mean. I didn't mean to interject.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Oh, that's true, that is true. I have I have,
I have forgotten it. I'd have forgotten it quite a
few times.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
But do.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Right, you know, And and honestly, you know, we're starting
to try to wean her off of it a little bit.
She doesn't get it during the day and stuff and
stuff like that. But I think that parental engagement teaches
you ways to co with things that you deal with

(47:04):
in life. And so you know, maybe maybe I you know,
maybe as a parent, I won't be able to tell
I won't remember to tell her, Hey, when you when
you deal with a situation of its money or its family,
that family is the one that really should should win out.

(47:27):
And I may not, but but I'll but I'm going
to teach her multiple, you know, multiple ways to look
at things right in multiple ways. And so when I
talk to youth about the different different things about leaving,
you know, I've got a bunch of them that have
that graduated last year, and I've got about like three

(47:48):
quarters of the youth group, like eight or ten of
them are graduating this year. And so what we've been
doing is we've been teaching them. You know, we've we
started out last two years ago with fundamental Bible stories,
the things that you we take take for granted that

(48:09):
you learned in in school, in Sunday School. But because
we're not a traditional Methodist church, maybe you didn't see
it in Sunday School. Maybe you saw maybe you went
didn't go to that class, maybe you were in service
that day or whatever, and you didn't get to that
that story.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
We're giving them a grounding.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
So we're giving them the base grounding, and then what
what we're doing from there is, you know, this year,
they're they're seniors, and so we're teaching a lot more
with the senior group on leadership and and and we
we joke a lot of times we say these bud
buzzwords like leadership or go pray or go you know whatever.

(48:50):
But leadership is really taking your thoughts and making them yours.
That they're no longer your your pastor's thoughts, they're no
longer your mom and dad's thoughts, that these these are your,
these these are the things that you think about because
you have some kind of grounding in them, like you said,

(49:11):
building that grounding, like why don't I, you know, as
a Christian, why don't I believe in being gay or lesbian?

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:22):
And why don't I believe in and and and then
what does that mean if you come up come, if
you come in contact with those people and not that
like those people are contagion or something like that. But
it's it's like we've we've we've talked about before that
your argument is so great until you come up against

(49:44):
a person who has lived it themselves. Yes, so until
your child is is gay or lesbian, or until you
have a gay or lesbian friend at work, then you
don't know how you're going to react. Old Mike Tyson's
saying that you don't know what's what you'll do until
you've been punched in the face. You know, you can,

(50:07):
you can practice for it all you want, but once
you've been punched in the face, you don't know, you know,
until you until it happens to you. And so so
we we talked to him about it. You know that
you know, there isn't the judgment side of things, and
this is what I think we've lost in in in

(50:27):
society leaves leaving Christianity is the judgment isn't us. Judgment
is God's and that we're we're here to to you know,
obviously continue putting out God's love. You know that Jesus
died on the cross for our sins and the gospel.

(50:48):
But we're you know, although I want you to know
that whatever sin that you're that is holding you back
from the Gospel is holding you back, I also am
not judging you for it because there are things that
I do, There are sins that I commit that you

(51:10):
know will hold me back and that you know, we
all take it to the Father and that's where the judgment,
that's where the you know, that's where the forgiveness comes from.
And honestly, we saw a scripture and this is just
I guess kind of you know, adhd getting off the
getting on the bunny trail. But we saw a scripture

(51:34):
this this a couple months back, that said, you know,
and it's the parable of the five friends that drop
their their buddy through the roof. And we've always we
always talked about how good of friends those guys were,
and we talked about it Actually that was one of
our leadership things, is that you know, how do you
how do you decide? You know, how do you get

(51:54):
through the problems of life. Well, God will put people
around you that will get you to your destination. Whether
those people are your work, people that you don't have
any you know, love for or law you know, or
or that they that have no you know, if you're
in a a woke company and the people around you,

(52:15):
you look around and you go outside of this job,
I will never talk to these people again. But those
are the people that are building you up for the
next step. These people are giving you the confidence the
experience to be something else in another company and maybe
a better company, or maybe it's you know, things like that.

(52:37):
But these five guys dropped this guy into in on
Jesus's feet, and Jesus didn't say you're healed. He said,
your sins are forgiven. And so the thing that the
power that God gives us is the power to forgive
your sins. He didn't say I'm judging your sins. He
said forgive them. And that's to take all that hurt

(53:00):
and all that pain from other people's misguided judgment.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
And to forgive it.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
And so I think that's really a great comment you
just said, because that's the thing that I think is
missing in social discourse and we talk about free speech,
and that is the unwillingness to forgive other people. If
someone says something that we don't agree with or we

(53:32):
may be sensitive to, we don't have that sense to forgive.
We want to make them pay for it. Maybe we
want to make them feel bad because we feel bad.
And that that is the to me, a very subtle,
subversive attitude that has leached into our culture now that

(53:58):
if we have someone that offends us when we disagree with,
we want to make them pay. We don't wait forgive them.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Yeah, it's not about it's not about understanding and and
being being a community anymore. It's it's about you're wrong,
I'm right. It's it's about being right and and exactly.
And I think that that's that's where we we've lost
We've lost track. I think with with the freedom of speech,
with with all all kinds of things, is that we're

(54:33):
we're we're not having a dialogue, we're not having we're
you know, the freedom of speech is the fact that
is the freedom that you have a side and I
have a side. And what we've lost in what we've
lost this last few years, is that there's one side.

(54:53):
It's the right side. It's whatever I feel like is right,
is right. There's no truth anymore, there's no facts anymore.
It's what I believe and what you believe. I mean,
there are and this is this is gonna sound terrible,
but this is a Christian podcast, and I don't care.
There are a ton of people who believe in Buddha,

(55:16):
a ton of people who believe in Greek Greek mythology,
a ton of people who believe who are starting to
now believe in bail again. Talk about a guy that's
been dead millions of years, you know that maybe never
was alive, and you and you and so truth is

(55:36):
not it's what you believe. And if you believe in something,
we can't all be right. One of us one day,
one of us one day is going to die and
they're going to be right.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Yeah. So I it reminds me. I heard once when
two people are entering into dialogue discussion with one another,
there's two approaches on it is to enter into dialogue
or discussion with another person trying to understand being some
misd and gain some insight, and the other side is

(56:12):
to win the argument. So it's not like you can
you can. If you enter into discourse saying I'm going
to prove that I'm right, I'm going to win the argument,
then there's no openness to any other sense of truth
or understanding. Or if you go into discussion saying I'm
not into discussion to win, whatever that might be for

(56:36):
that person. I'm entering into discussion to understand and to
add understanding to both sides. Maybe we can both understand
a little bit more about respective positions or opinions. And
right now I see far too much of the time,

(56:56):
rather than trying to understand one another, to go in
to discussions willing to be at all costs. We're willing
to be vindictive, We're willing to be intimidated, We're willing
to coerce, we're willing to bully to win the argument.
And that's really added a ingredient of our character that

(57:19):
is very unbecoming and purposeless. It doesn't resolve anything.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
And I think when we go at all costs, when
there's not an engagement, uh, you know, a certain level
of respect or or engagement, I think you, like you said,
we lose you know, we lose that respect for the
other person, and we do it at all costs.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
We're willing to bully them.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
We're you know, and a lot of times what's sad
about it is we're bullying people about not bullying people.
Yeah don't. Yeah, like you can't, you can't, you can't
be a bully, like I mean, I feel like the
bullies that I had, I mean, I ran up against
everybody runs up against the bully in your lifetime. Like

(58:04):
even even your bullies. There's a reason that their bullies,
you know, maybe their parents, maybe their brother, you know,
somebody in their life was bullying them. And so you know,
you did you You make your life decisions, you make
you you shape your you know, like you said, Like
I like I said, you don't know what you're gonna

(58:24):
you know what you're gonna do until you've been punched.
I was punched in the face by a bully, you know,
And so I knew when I got in a fight
later on in life, I knew what was you know,
what was going to happen if I got punched in
the face, you know, by a bully.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Is that why your nose. Is that why your noses crooked?

Speaker 1 (58:44):
That's that's why you know. I was also a goalie
in soccer.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
We get kicked, so.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
We're the dumb ones that throw their faces at the
you know, is just save it at all costs.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
But no, I just follow to your followers, Aaron's nose
is really not crooked. I was just.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
If you're not on the live podcast, you should be,
because then you would realize that I have a nice, straight,
even sided note. No fitting the fitting the size and
contour of my No. But no, I think that.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
You know.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
That the freedom of speech as a governmental issue is
it should be a non issue. There shouldn't be any
any control over speech.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Now.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Do I feel like you should be able to willy
nilly go out there and just like rip somebody the
shreds and and you know, send them home crying. No,
I think that. But I don't think it's it's a
a thing of governmental control. I think that's a societal deal.
If we as a society, you know, make bullying a

(01:00:03):
a a an issue, then society as a whole will
will control that. But to make it illegal to to
say something mean against the Jews, or to say to
make it illegal to say something mean against a certain
sect of people. Now becomes honestly, it becomes racism because

(01:00:23):
now now you now you have special consequences if you
say something against you know, those people.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Yeah, I I that's an important point. And I that's
a thing that I've asked myself many many times, is
say the Internet. Would I rather have an an internet,
uh social media that is completely unrestricted where anybody can
say anything that they want to do, say you, pornography, bullying, obscenity,

(01:01:01):
all the terrible things that people can post. Or do
I want or I do I want a all of
which I can turn off or not even look at,
you know, of which I can? I mean, if if
it's there, I certainly have the choice not to go
online or not just can stay away. But it's my choice.

(01:01:22):
Or do I want an Internet where an authoritarian government
tells me you can't. Who are going to label Aaron's
podcast as misinformation and we're gonna not allow him to
be on the Internet because he runs counter to what

(01:01:42):
the government's position, where narrative is even at the risk
of jeopardizing truth And I, you know, and I think
that goes back to your point just recently, is that
you made just moments ago.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
Is that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
I don't think that I like either one of them
one hundred percent. But if I had to choose right now,
the way things are going, I would choose the open Internet.
People can post what they want to post, but it's
me making the choice of what goes in my eyes
and what goes in my ears, not the government to
someone that can control what and how I think, because that,

(01:02:25):
to me is a lot more dangerous than Well, it's
out there anyway, whether it's on the Internet or any
any other place. The vulgarity we talk about, obscenity and
language that we have now, it's out there anyway. So
we might as well learn how to discern truth and
discern civil behavior, develop the discipline to avoid it, if

(01:02:50):
not participate in it as we go. And to me,
that's a much more responsible approach than it is to
have troops taken away from me by a government restricting excess.
Because now, I mean, and you can speak to this
better than me, and I was reading this. What they
do now is what's called shadow Yeah, shadow banding. Now,

(01:03:16):
I mean, tell tell us more, maybe other everybody else
knows what that is. We're explaining the shadow banning now
where you don't know about it, do you?

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
I mean, if but you just all of a sudden,
you'll you'll see less participation in your whatever, your whatever
social media you're on.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
So somebody's doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
So all of these social media programs are our algorithm based.
So if you get so, if we get on our podcast,
is why I tell everyone to follow, like and share
our podcasts. The more likes, the more follows, and the
more comments we get on our live podcast or even
on on the podcast afterwards, the higher in the ratings

(01:04:01):
will get. So if someone says, I want a conservative podcast,
and in our in our search engine optimization, we've put
that we are a conservative podcast, Christian orientation, you know,
all of that kind of thing that well, and so
the more popular we are, the more often will hit

(01:04:24):
on the first page or well, the more high the
higher up will hit on the searches. And so what
will happen is if they don't like your contents. And
that's what they even threatened me with on Facebook. And uh,
when I put off that meme, is that if I
continued to put misinformation that I would I would face

(01:04:51):
being being lowered on the search engine optimization.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
So that and they can indeed, missed people can't.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
And that's all they could take you. They could take
your account away from you. They could take you off,
you know, they could. They could put you so low
on the list if you were a lot of times
what happens with these super popular podcasts that you know,
the Joe Rogan podcasts. They tried to take him off,
They tried to U tried to shadow ban him, but

(01:05:24):
he was so popular that you couldn't stop him, luckily,
and so you know, people knew where he was at.
They found him anyway, and uh, you know, he he
had he had enough following, and so he went to
he went to a Luckily for him, you know, he

(01:05:45):
was the guy that could bring his following with him.
You know, us, we were on like nine or ten
different sites and we're just trying to build that following.
And so if we lose this sight, well, I mean,
that's that's sad and things of that nature. But at
least we you know, at least we're we're hedging our

(01:06:05):
bets and that's side, you know, will we'll pick up
people on other sites and stuff like that. And so
if you've ever. You know, it's like one of my
favorite bands. They're called their name is Demon Hunter, and
uh they're a hardcore Christian band, but they're also one

(01:06:25):
of those bands that you go up to them after
the after the concert and you'd say, hey, I need
I need some prayer for this or that, and they'll
they'll stop what they're doing right there and they'll pray
for you. They're a very you know, Christian, humble band
that just you know, me and me and my brother,
me and honest Abe went to one of the concerts

(01:06:47):
one time and we were just joking around with them
about honest Abe wanted some of these like they had
someone collector's socks. They're like they were only going to
they limited addition, a thousand of them made socks. And
he was he said, I didn't see him at the
merch table. I was going to try to get him.
And one of the guys was just joking around, was like, oh,
we can get you some socks from the from a

(01:07:09):
concert blah blah blah. And uh, you know, so afterwards
because we did the VIP, you know, check it out.
You know, once in a you know, one of those
once in a lifetime deals. Where you just you know,
I'm not gonna come, you know, very odd. And so
we we did the meet and greet and took a
photo with him, and uh, the photo, the photo of

(01:07:31):
him is funny because I at that time I had
a mohawk and and uh, you know, hones Stables all
tagged it up and everything, and he's so he we
I've shown it to people and they're like, are you
guys aren't in the band, are you? And I was
like no, but we we do look like exactly, you know,
we look like everybody else in the band at that point.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
And so.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
But yeah, so afterwards, you know, honestab goes something. They
were kind of standing off the side, you know, just
greeting people and stuff like that. He goes, hey, uh,
you know about them socks. You know, I might you know,
I take you up on that offer. And the guy's
like really, He's like, yeah, I'm gonna I think I'm
gonna make a display of the limited edition socks and

(01:08:19):
the concert socks. And so he ended up, you know,
they were he ran back and got him a pair
of socks and and uh, you know, so but it
was you know, it's one of those deals. But they
they had one of their to get back to the
actual story, they had one of their accounts get get blocked.

(01:08:43):
They they were getting they were getting it deleted because
it was associated with an account that maybe had been
hacked and sent spam out. This is a part of
Instagram that I don't I don't really agree with. But
you know, one of our accounts was actually hacked. And
because I don't post on it through Instagram very often,

(01:09:07):
I have post from other accounts onto that account. I
didn't realize it. And so somebody post somebody hacked the account,
changed our bio, changed our name on it and everything,
and and you know, we're sending out spam messages about

(01:09:29):
I don't know, cats or something, and so we got
it got canceled, It got canceled, and nothing that I
had sent me out the red flag. So I ended
up getting on it the one day to check it
to to post some other stuff and just update it
with new artwork and stuff, and it was it was.

(01:09:49):
It wasn't there, and so I had to go through
a whole arbitration process of this is our site. This
I don't know what happened here or whatever, and so
I don't even know if I, if I even own
the own the site anymore, we just we just have
stopped Instagram posting other than to post some reels and
stuff like that. So but yeah, so yeah, with these

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companies and and you and you hate it. I want
to fight them and say, look, this is free speech.
This is but at the same time, these are private companies.
Facebook is a private company, and and here's and here
and here's what I said about capitalism that if you

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don't agree with somebody, you vote with your dollars. Right, So,
if you don't agree with the free speech on these
social media accounts, don't go there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
And somebody else who brings just as good of a
product or even better is going to come up and
be that next that next sounding board of freedom or
conservatism or whatever. And you can be a part of

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that because they have your beliefs. But if we just say,
and and this is the part about voting and everything else,
if we just say, well, I'm not big enough to
do anything about it, then you're part of the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Right. Yeah. I read recently an article to follow up
with what you were just saying. It is the dose
effected way of countering ah the constraint of free speech
is to speak out louder I mean vindictively, but to

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be clear and out and spoken clearly, and not be
bashful about speaking out your words, which is what you
were just saying. So voting and self expression, you know,
exercise self expression as much as you can in.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
All honesty. Like we've said, responsibility falls on you. If
you want a free world, be responsible to make it
a free world. If you want a world where everything's
given to you, then that's your responsibility. You then when
things go down the way it is, it's it's on
you and you really, honestly, in this world, you've got

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nobody to blame but yourself. Unless you live in North Korea,
you know, you pretty much have. You know, if you
live in America, you have pretty much all of the
freedoms and rights that you could ask for. And we
can say, we can say how this governmental oversight or

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or whatever. But you know, here in my in my home,
the government doesn't rule the the government doesn't run things.
And so not that I'm out there, you know, breaking
laws or you know, you know, hoarding missiles or something
like that. But you know, I can speak freely the

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way I want to speak as long as I'm not
impending on somebody else's ability to speak freely. And so
that's where you get into these you know, freedom, you know,
the freedom of speech. You know, it's you know, it's
it's meant to be protected as long as you are
not you know, inciting violence or you know that's the

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new we're you know, fighting words are meant to incite
violence such as that they may not be predicted by
a free speech. So as long as I'm not impeding
someone else's ability to speak freely, speak freely, get out there,
speak freely, and not that, like you said, not that

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you want to, you know, incite len, or that you
want to you know, do it in anger or whatever.
But at the same time, there are two sides to this.
And if you watch some of these people, like you
said about the the Ivy League schools or the top
tier schools and being a conservative or whatever, I mean,

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there was that there was a lady that went to
these people's house with a hatchet and threatened them. And
she was a teacher at this school through all of
their material about abortion on the ground and he's like, what, like,
what's this, This isn't civilized. You've now taken this from

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a civilized conversation to something less than civilized. And in
that you should be you should be ready to get
whatever consequences that comes from. And that's not saying that
I want you to go out there and you know,
if someone punches you, you punch them back. But at
the same point, you know, if you're out there punching people,

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willy nilly, and you and and then you cry that
you're offended, Well, I've been assaulted, which is actually a
legal ramification. And you can go to jail And you
want to cry about being in jail for that, You're
an idiot, You are stupid, Like no, no, there's no

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recovering from that. Those people should just be left in jail.
And and I don't think they can be taught any better.
Like this is a teacher who's gone through the educational system,
you know, and and going through the educational system and
all of that, and her life experiences be whatever they are.

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But to incite violent, to be violent to somebody else
because of what they've said or the or what they're doing,
is is not It is not pushing an agenda of freedom.
It's not pushing an agenda of acceptance in any kind
of way, and you know obviously makes me upset, so.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
He too, me too.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
But just to kind of you know, I know, we've
kind of we've kind of gone off the the on
the bunny trails and kind of gone off of just
the free speech thing. But I think it all kind
of culminates together. Yeah, this is why, this is why
it's the first amendment, This is why it's the one

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of them. You know, back then they put the amendments
together in in the the force that they thought was
the most important. And honestly, we were we were leaving
a country where we didn't have the right to a

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free speech, We didn't have right to be represented by
our own speech in any way. We were not citizens
of that country, even though we had to follow the
rules of that country. And so if you want to
go back to you know, you want to say, oh,
we get you know something about you know, building this

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country on slavery. Yeah, King George built this country on slavery.
We had no representation, we had no you know, and
yes it's a little different, but it is still you know,
could be seen as as an oppression. And I think
that's where they were at. They wanted us to have

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the freedom to speak, and that was whether we were
in opposition or we were for whoever. And I think
that's what they they they honored that. You know, that
First Continental Congress was not a bunch of guys that
were like, yeah, let's do this all together. You know,

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it was thirteen colonies of guys that you know, fought
about whether they even wanted to build a congress or
they even wanted to build a government. You know, they
fought about, you know, whether they wanted to, you know,
have a ruler of our country. And you know, all

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of them were treasonous at that point because they were
going against their government to create a new government.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
And you know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
That that is what true freedom is is to be
able to to go, you know, to say things against
your government without having a a consequence or a pushback
about it. Now, if I went and did something, you know,
then then you know, physically, you know, pushed against our government,

(01:18:58):
then there's consequence. But to say that I disagree should
never you know, should never be you know, if I
philosophically disagree, okay, and at the end of the day,
we could still be friends. I have plenty of friends
that are are liberals, and you know, we just we

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either we don't chat about that very often, or we
you know, I just I forgive them and love them anyway.
But hopefully they and hopefully they do the same though.
Hopefully that as people we can we can see our differences.
And it's like I said, before you build you you

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you farm carrots and I farm potatoes, and we bring
our differences together and we make this thing a great suit,
you know, this melting pot that we're supposed to be.
That's what we make. But I think we've gotten to
the point where you make potatoes and I make carrots,
and I leaving my carrots and there's so much better
than your potatoes. And you shouldn't even ever make potatoes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
And you you know, but I do like potato.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
I do love potatoes. Carrot soup.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Yeah, no, not so much potato soup. I do like
potato soup.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
Little yea of ham or bacon in it, you know,
little some potatoes. Yeah, put some seasonings in there, and
that's right. Good, yep, Yeah, yeah, it's about It's about
potato soup. Weather here, we're about getting there. As s
seventy degrees this week, I think we're going to get

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back up to ninety next week. But okay, yeah, but yeah, definitely,
so I you know, in the freezing to just just
wrapping it up, final wrap up. You know, it's not
free unless it's free for all. It's not fair unless
it's fair for all, you know, unless if you're giving

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a handout to somebody, it's not fair. It's not free.
And so you know, honestly, some people need help, and
there are some things, but if there's a regulation in
your government to give those people those those those handouts,
then they're not giving everybody their hand those handouts. And

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based on whatever they're giving those handouts, whether you're poor
economic economically, or you're you know, a minority of some sort,
that's you know, pandering to a minority. So you know,

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get out there, get some education on this. Obviously, I've
always said, don't take this, don't take our thoughts for yourself,
don't you know, don't take our our ideas as the Bible.
You know, get out there and educate yourself. And that's
you know, that's what I tell these kids is that

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you know, the Bible is the Bible, but you've got
to make it yours and that's when you start standing
on it as a foundation. And so you know, get
out there and and get these ideas for yourself, live
some life, get an argument and you know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
Do that.

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