April 18, 2025 • 29 mins
Dr. Jayne Gardner is a true pioneer in using psychology in the business world to unleash higher performance in organizations. And once entrepreneurs see the difference her process can make, they will have harnessed a power greater than anything business has ever known!
Dr. Jayne serves anyone who wants to unleash the unlimited potential inside each of us. Dr. Jayne has devoted her professional career to a personal transformation process, High Performance Breakthrough, to increase our level of fulfillment and happiness. With her latest book, Best Job Ever, she and co-author, Joel Patterson founder of The Vested Group, a software ERP company, have taken this process into the business world showing how our personal mood and mindset impact engagement, accountability, performance and ultimately the financial growth of the company.
She works with people who want to create financial greatness through first developing personal greatness. She has over thirty years of experience in the coaching world and knows how to call out our stories, our strengths and our blind-spots to uncover the best version of ourselves. She helps you move past personal problems showing you how they relate to your business challenges. She “gets” that your conflicts and limiting beliefs are usually subconscious, based on fear, and difficult to identify by yourself. Her flagship product, High Performance Breakthrough, gives you the blueprint to upload negative or limiting beliefs within you and rewire them into a set of beliefs you have carefully chosen to represent your most passionate, ardent, and authentic self.
Dr. Jayne Gardner holds a doctorate degree in psychology and counseling and state licensure as an LPC (Licensed Professional Counselor). She also holds the highest level of certification with the International Coaching Federation, a MCC (Master Certified Coach). She has contributed articles to numerous magazines, professional journals, and media outlets including Emotional Intelligence Magazine, SHRM (Society for Human Resource Management), Dallas Business Journal, and Science of Mind magazine.
She has hosted her own radio show called Wired to Win (KRLD-AM/Dallas) and has appeared on CNN’s Business Unusual and on Good Morning Texas (ABC affiliate). Her authentic presence engages audiences quickly and leaves a lasting impact. Because of her vast life experience, education, and presentation style, she receives rave reviews from audiences nationwide; she has presented all over the US and abroad to many prestigious groups such as the International Coach Federation (ICF), The Entrepreneurs’ Organization (EO), and Young Presidents’ Organization (YPO).
She graduated from the University of Texas Dallas School of Management with a major in Executive and Professional Coaching. She has since taught as Adjunct Professor of Business and Professional Communication at Texas Christian University, is a Program Advisor for Houston Christian University’s Women in Leadership Program, and worked as an Executive Coach at the University of Dallas. She has five grown children, seven grandchildren and lives in Allen, Texas with husband, Dave Bauer.
Dr. Jayne serves anyone who wants to unleash the unlimited potential inside each of us. Dr. Jayne has devoted her professional career to a personal transformation process, High Performance Breakthrough, to increase our level of fulfillment and happiness. With her latest book, Best Job Ever, she and co-author, Joel Patterson founder of The Vested Group, a software ERP company, have taken this process into the business world showing how our personal mood and mindset impact engagement, accountability, performance and ultimately the financial growth of the company.
She works with people who want to create financial greatness through first developing personal greatness. She has over thirty years of experience in the coaching world and knows how to call out our stories, our strengths and our blind-spots to uncover the best version of ourselves. She helps you move past personal problems showing you how they relate to your business challenges. She “gets” that your conflicts and limiting beliefs are usually subconscious, based on fear, and difficult to identify by yourself. Her flagship product, High Performance Breakthrough, gives you the blueprint to upload negative or limiting beliefs within you and rewire them into a set of beliefs you have carefully chosen to represent your most passionate, ardent, and authentic self.
Dr. Jayne Gardner holds a doctorate degree in psychology and counseling and state licensure as an LPC (Licensed Professional Counselor). She also holds the highest level of certification with the International Coaching Federation, a MCC (Master Certified Coach). She has contributed articles to numerous magazines, professional journals, and media outlets including Emotional Intelligence Magazine, SHRM (Society for Human Resource Management), Dallas Business Journal, and Science of Mind magazine.
She has hosted her own radio show called Wired to Win (KRLD-AM/Dallas) and has appeared on CNN’s Business Unusual and on Good Morning Texas (ABC affiliate). Her authentic presence engages audiences quickly and leaves a lasting impact. Because of her vast life experience, education, and presentation style, she receives rave reviews from audiences nationwide; she has presented all over the US and abroad to many prestigious groups such as the International Coach Federation (ICF), The Entrepreneurs’ Organization (EO), and Young Presidents’ Organization (YPO).
She graduated from the University of Texas Dallas School of Management with a major in Executive and Professional Coaching. She has since taught as Adjunct Professor of Business and Professional Communication at Texas Christian University, is a Program Advisor for Houston Christian University’s Women in Leadership Program, and worked as an Executive Coach at the University of Dallas. She has five grown children, seven grandchildren and lives in Allen, Texas with husband, Dave Bauer.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm Cynthia James, and this network is about changing lives,
one woman at a time. Hello, and welcome to Women Awakening.
I'm your host, Cynthia James, and I am so excited
(00:24):
that every week I get to introduce you to another
phenomenal woman, and not that they're an exception. What they
are is there are people who've said yes to life,
yes to bringing their best self to the planet, yes
to being of service, yes to opening their hearts and
inviting us to take a journey for our own health
(00:46):
and well being, joy and freedom. So we do this
every week. You know, We're on all the platforms Spotify, iTunes,
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There's gifts for you and lots of things going on
(01:08):
in my world. So I am very excited. I'm introducing
you to someone new to me today. Her name is
doctor Jane Gardner. She is a true pioneer in using
psychology in the business world to unleash higher performance in
organizations and once entrepreneurs see the difference, her process can make,
(01:29):
they have a they will have harnessed a power greater
than anything in business that's ever experienced, that they've ever
experienced or ever known. So doctor James serves everyone, anyone
who wants to unleash the unlimited potential inside each of us.
She has devoted her professional career to a personal transformation process.
(01:55):
It's called high performance Breakthrough and it's created to increase
level of fulfillment and happiness. And her latest book, Best
Job Ever, she has co authored with Joel Patterson, founder
of the Vested Group, a software RP company, and they
have taken this process into the business world, showing how
(02:17):
our personal mood and mindset impact engagement, accountability, performance, and
ultimately the financial growth of the company. Doctor Jane, thank
you so much for being here.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I'm so glad to be here and know that we're
awakening as women. It's time is.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Most certainly is most certainly is. So I want to
know you know where you grew up, how you grew up,
because a lot of people kind of think that success
just sort of drops in and not that there's a path.
So how did you grow up?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh, Cynthia, thanks for asking. I Hamilton, Texas a town
of three thousand people at least, and I always bragged
that I was second in my graduating class of twenty
seven people. So you know these classes. My daughter's in
one of five thousand. But it was a great life
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growing up in a small town. It was also a
place where I had fun as a child. And then
there was a day that something happened that kind of
changed it for me, and I think I probably closed
down instead of kept in that childlike wakefulness, that joy,
(03:46):
that exuberance of life. So I had two brothers. We
were close in age. My dad was an entrepreneur in
the town, very successful, and so I learned. I grew
up in a family run business and my dad was
up here to me. He was the leader in our family,
(04:07):
and my mother helped him. And I played with both
my brothers till I was twelve or thirteen, like we
were equals. But you know, when we started going through puberty,
my dad wanted my two brothers to go to work
for him at the factory, and they did, and I
began to see that, Wait a minute, I felt left out,
(04:31):
and so I asked my dad. I said, Daddy, can't
I do something? You know, I'm an artist. You know,
I could do some of the designs for your monuments
because he had a tombstone company. And he just kept saying, Oh,
I don't want my little girl in that dusty, dirty factory. Well,
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my brothers got to dress up in coveralls and goggles
and had all what it looked like a lot of
fun driving around with the are people working in the
truck and going to lunch. So I just kept insisting, Dad, please,
you know, and I was pretty persistent as a little
thirteen year old. So he finally said, you know, I'm
sure my mother told him this. He said, you know, honey,
(05:15):
why don't you come and you could work in the
outer office and you could draw designs for me, and
then by the end of the summer, I'll pay you
like I do your brothers. You know. I think it
was five dollars a day, which was a lot of money. Hey,
And so I did. I worked all summer, Cynthia. I
had so much fun. And I colored them and I
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mean they were beautiful. My mom suggested I put them
in a notebook before I presented them to Harem at
the end of the summer, which I did. And so
the last day I went in and show it, and
he flipped through them and I could tell he was impressed,
and I felt like I was part of the family business.
(06:00):
So I went running out to the car because my
mother was ready to go school, shopping for school supplies
that I was going to, you know, change from working
in the summer to going to school. And then when
I got in the car, she said, oh, honey, did
you bring your colored pencils you've been using with your dad,
because then we don't have to buy those, So run
back in there and get it. So I went back
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in his office and he wasn't in there, and I
looked around for my colored pencils and I couldn't find him.
So I was kind of looking through things because he
had set the notebook up on his file cabinet where
he kept his important papers. So I started opening file
cabinets and then I stumbled backward and I saw that
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under his desk in his trash can were all of
my paintings. Ah, I know.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I was so hurt, you.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Can imagine at thirteen, because I felt betrayed. I didn't
understand it, so I didn't I went running back out
to the car, tearful, and I didn't never tell my
mom what happened. I never told anybody what happened, but
I did. There was something that happened in my brain.
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I went to the idea, the limiting belief I put
in as girls are not as important as boys, girls
can't be successful in business. There were several of them,
but it was really about girls in business that I
jumped in on. I went back to school, I changed
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my future. I was going to be in business major.
I went to be a teacher, and for about fifteen
years as I grew up, I got to be a teacher,
got married, and I did not think of that memory
until as I got my degree in therapy and I
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was a therapist, and then I had some business people
come to me and say, why don't you go in
a company and use your process of uncovering limiting beliefs,
and you know it could help our business. And I
kept saying no, you know, I did everything. I just
knew I didn't want to do that. And so one day,
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as I was going through this process of uncovering people's
limiting beliefs with them, I was teaching other coaches because
it had become a very popular course, and one of
the students said to me, doctor Jane, well, what are
your limited beliefs? And of course, well, you know, I'm
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embarrassed to say, but you could just feel the color
coming up with me and I said, oh, I don't know,
and she said, well, I'd like to take you through
your own process and let's figure out out. And she did,
and of course the story came up when she asked
me questions about my childhood, because that's where we form
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our limiting beliefs. And so I realized what was holding
me back from a big opportunity to step into the
business world with my stuff, you know, my whole process.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
You know, it's so interesting because our parents, even though
they're doing the best that they can and absolutely have
no idea the impact it is having on us and
our psychological welfare.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Well, you know, I don't think I even wanted to
bring this story up for a long time because I
didn't want to hurt my father's feelings. He loved me,
I adored him. But yes, he planted this belief in
me that really held me back.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
So here's my question. Did you ever have that conversation?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I did, and what did he say?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It was? It was long into oh, I bet he
was in his he's gone now, but I bet he
was in his seventies at least. And I told him
about it, and he looked at me so funny, and
he said, well, sweetheart, I don't know why you got
(10:21):
that opinion, because I've told your mother this a million times.
Women are smarter than men. And I said, Daddy, what
do you mean. He said, oh, honey, your mother she's
twice as smart as I am, and her business savvy
is running our business at the time, and so it
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just it dissipated everything. He not only did he not
mean to put that, I don't think he even believed it.
I think he was trying to protect me, right, you
know he had he had a good intention.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Well, yeah, you know, but we're so fragile, aren't we.
I mean, you know, so I want to talk about
I want to talk about your process. Tell us what
is the high performance breakthrough?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yes, that's a great, good transition because I found out
as I was working with business people, and I started
out in the mental health hospital very seriously ill people,
and I got very discouraged because I couldn't get any progress.
There was only two solutions that were taught me in college.
You could do a medication or you could talk them
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to death. For years, and neither one of them were working.
And so that's when I started thinking, there's something here
I'm not getting And I just started researching what do
people have in common that come to this place? And
I realized any conflict they had inner or outer with
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relationships with jobs were caused from what they believed about themselves,
mostly erroneously. They were limiting beliefs that they held. So
that's why I designed this process to uncover your limiting beliefs,
because usually they're unconscious to you.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yes, so and so tell me. Are there steps to
your process?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
There are seven dialogues I call them that. I send
you a document you felled as out, we discuss it.
As a coach. I can do it in teams. Are
I can do it just one on one with executives.
Most of my I work pridmarily now with CEOs because
what I do is I find out what their limiting
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beliefs are, and I do that through the steps of
the process. I ask them to tell me stories about
their childhood. Because the brain, it's all based on neuroscience.
My whole psychology background, so the thing we remember in
our life. The memories we have are based on significance
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to us. We don't remember things that aren't important to us.
We may remember a happy birthday, but mostly our brain
is for protection, so it remembers the negatives because it
wants to have us learn something different so we won't
have that happen again. So where we're born full of
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unlimited possibilities, but as things happen to us, we start
to build up these thoughts about ourselves that ultimately are
negative and hold us back. So I developed a neuroscience
process of unwiring and rewiring installing new beliefs. So after
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we uncover your limiting beliefs, you go on a three
day retreat all by yourself, and you work out through
the steps of the process what happened, You rewire it,
and then you come back and you decide what beliefs
do I want in my head because we don't choose
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them when they come in as children, they just happen.
So now as an adult, to take responsibility for our lives,
we can't go around blaming our parents. That's not even fair.
And so we began to take responsibility. And one of
the new beliefs that I put in my head is
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that boys and girls, men and women are equal in power.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, you know what I love about what you're saying
is those limiting beliefs put us into survival and protection.
And if you're delv it's not you're not functioning. And
so so tell me what you've discovered, because you know,
yet as the CEO goes, so goes the company.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
What have you discovered about the freedom that emerges from
these CEOs and the impact on their company?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Well, you know, Cynthia, I have to say that when
I interview a CEO, I have to decide if he
has a growth mindset or a fixed mindset, because if
he's willing to look within, he's my person. But a
lot of CEOs are different. They know exactly what they
think and they don't want to change anything, and I
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let them go. But there are so many beautiful women
and men out there who want to see what they're
doing and change it if it can help their employees.
So I found one that I wrote my most recent
book with. His name is Joel Patterson. And when he
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took the process, he was the one that looked at
me and said, I want every person in my company
to experience this, because he said, I uncovered so much
about myself and it changed my relationships with my daughter,
my son, my wife, my employees. Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Okay, So the name of this book is best I
have ever.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
That's not ever. And his name is Joel Patterson and
my name is Jane Gardner because he told me after
we put this installed in his company, he said, we
must write this up because other leaders want to know this.
Because then we hired a researcher to research and interview
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everyone that took the process in his company and uncover
what had happened to him, because they might tell us something,
but we wanted an unbiased researcher to come in and
discover it. And I was surprised at what they discovered,
because what they found was that the women wrote and
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confidence the men began to feel more empathy. Isn't that
in your doll? Isn't it?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
But it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
But as a woman, I identified with that confidence thing
because I knew the limits I'd put on myself held
me back my whole life from being the confident woman
I knew it could be. So the beautiful part of
this is I get to watch people transform right in
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front of my eyes with a simple three month process,
not going to therapy for years or taking and too depressants.
There are times, of course when you need those, but
a lot of us just need to look inside and
release ourselves from what we have done to ourselves.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Well yeah, and you know, if you're in a culture
that historically has I'm going to just focus on women
for it has said that there's this glass ceiling and
some of you bringing your best self. You're trying to
navigate the waters of this glass ceiling. But if you're confident,
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then you get to focus on bringing your best self.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
And isn't it interesting that men have more confidence in
that than we do generally speaking?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yes, yeah, well I think I think. I mean it's
like when you when you were talking about your childhood
and your brothers, You're like, come on in, you can
do this and all good, you know, and they're like, yeah,
we can do it, absolutely yeah, and they already knew
they can do it, right right. So so now the
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intention for the book is to reach.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
More companies, that's right. I want to reach more CEOs
that are open and willing because what the research also
showed was after one year of the installation, Uh, Jules,
profits zoomed And so what we discovered is happier employees
equal equal higher profits. He was he was offered a
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man wanted to buy his company two years later for
five times what he had told me it was worth
when I came in. So what CEOs need to know
is when they allow their people to be cared for
and valued, people work harder, they're more loyal, they don't
leave you. You know, they're invested in your your why
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as a as a CEO, and therefore you're going to
do better in the long run.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Well yeah, but then that takes that takes great courage
to let go of the control and the rigidity that
has been you know, programmed into leaders.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
And into I really think more men than women, you know,
because you know, ninety something percent of CEOs are men still,
which you know I want to change because we as
women can bring so many different capabilities that blended with
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theirs just makes it much more dynamic place to work.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Well, so I want to talk about this in terms
of you, you know, what what have you discovered in
terms of your own personal experience, where like you're a
woman coming in to teach them how to do it better.
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Has there been resistance and if so, how have you
navigated it?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Oh? Thank you for asking. Yes, the walking into his company.
It's a software company engineers, so he has maybe ten
percent women and very young, dynamic, smart young men, you know.
So the first team I had in introducing this process
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was about six young men and we met. It was
during COVID, so we met on a zoom call remote
and when I started the call, I started talking about emotions.
And I know it was naive on my part, but
I could the screens literally started coming down. They just
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blocked me out. They didn't want to listen to it.
They went to Joel and they said, this is we
don't need this, this is useless to ours, you know,
blah blah blah. Well, so I continued, and basically my
confidence was rattled with that. I could tell you know that.
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I thought, what am I going to do here? I
can't even get them to hear it. So what I
did was I began to ask them questions about how
they grew up. And it was interesting because after about
fifteen minutes of that screen started coming up because one
of the guys share a story that when he was
in the fourth grade, his parents got a divorce, and
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he started talking about how it impacted him. Well, a
screen came up and said, well, that's funny, mine did too,
you know. And these guys started seeing some commonalities, and
then they began to see that their marriages. They began
to talk as men to men because it was all
men's group, and they began to say, you know, does
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your wife ever cry? And you don't know what to do,
you know, And they started talking about emotions in this way. Well,
by the end of the three month process, they were
closer than they've ever been to another human being, because
guys just don't talk like that to each other. So
then what they got was they started wanting parents tips,
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they wanted marriaging tips, and it became where if they
had a woman customer, they didn't know what to do
with her. And so walls began to break down and
they began to form this beautiful group of men. They're
still meeting today. They told me just about a week
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ago when I was out there, and so see, I
think if I persist, I think that was the key
is I didn't give up and walk away.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, but I also brought heart.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I did, and this is that's the key right there.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I co teach a class at
an engineering school. It's called Science and Spirituality, and we
bring in mindfulness and we bring in you know, meditation
and different stuff to these to these young people who
are like, I need to get this done, but they
want heart, They want to open that, you know, they
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want to feel heard, you know. And so okay, so
you're also a parent five children, Well bless you as
what I want to say there. Okay, So now I
want to know how did you manage having these five
babies and building this business and standing in your center?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
M h. I don't think I always stood in my center.
Oh I don't know. You know, I don't think I
even knew what that meant. Because my children are grown now,
and when I was raising them, oh my goodness, they
have gone, all five of them have gone through my process,
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and you know, it's been a horror. Oh my part
I felt, Oh my goodness. They're telling all these stories
about their childhood, which they were. But what I discovered
was that I didn't have to be perfect with it.
That just opening up with them and I begin to
say to them more and more you know, I made
a mistake there because I lost my temper. I did
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what we all do, but instead of protecting it and
you know, getting all definitely never going to admit anything,
I began to see that having heart with them opened
them up, and I always I started to teaching you
about repair and I said, you know, after I screamed
at you about that grade that was not right, let's
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talk about it. And they began to see that I
think I was a person, and we began to get closer.
And I think that got us through all those nights
when I wasn't available doing homework for my PhD or
building a business. That is the most difficult. I think
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that's the most difficult thing women face today is how
do we love our family and still develop up our
gifts in business are in whatever we want to work on,
in art or teaching or whatever. I don't know about you,
but that was my hardest.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, me too. My children are grown and the same thing.
It's like I didn't want to give myself away and
just do family because I felt I had gifts and so,
you know, finding the harmony because I don't know that
there was ever balance, but finding the harmony was the thing.
All right, I want to know how do people find you?
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How do they find your work?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Oh? Well, thank you for asking.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I have a.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Website, Doctor Jangardner dot com and I have so many
articles there. You can read videos, just a library of
help on parenting, but on business ideas and a lot
My favorite group to work with our family run businesses,
having grown up at them. So that's what you'll find
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a lot of articles about is how do you run
a business when your daughter is the admin and your
wife is a co owner? You know, That's what Joel
faced And so I would love for you to look
at my website get some ideas. Contact me on my email,
doctor Janegardner dot com, doctor Jane at doctor Janegardner dot com.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Look beautiful, it's beautiful, and ladies, don't forget the book
Best Job Ever.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I would love you can get that on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yes, perfect, Okay, So doctor Jane. I asked the same
last question of every guest on this show. The show
is called Women Awakening. What do you think is the
most important thing about women awakening on the planet in
this moment? Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Wow, Given you know the political stage and everything we're
facing in the world, with war. That's that's a great question.
I For me, specifically, it is to maintain your ability
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to take care of yourself. That's the hardest for me
because I can give and you know, present a lot
of things, but when it comes to eating right, getting
enough slate, the basics of taking physical care of me.
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I have one of my new beliefs that I installed
when I started my belief system is that I put
my needs first. And it's so hard, you know, well.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
It is, especially because we are inculturated as women, you know,
not with others first, you know, so pact to Jane,
thank you so much for being here for your wisdom.
I love what you're doing in the world. The business
sector needs you. I'm very grateful to have had this opportunity.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Well, thank you up doing what you're doing, helping women away.
We need to make that a journey, don't we do?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
All right, ladies, I close this show the same way
and I give you the same message with different words.
You know, here's the thing. What if you were completely
open and available to reviewing your mindset? Do you have
a growth mindset? Do you have a fixed mindset? What
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if you were open though to exploring better ways to
love you, honor you, support you, bring your gifts to
the planet and to your family. What if? And so
I'm just gonna invite you to contemplate that, because you're
here to live the best life ever. I'm so grateful
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to be with you every week. I love you, and
I'll see you next time.
I'm Cynthia James, and this network is about changing lives,
one woman at a time. Hello, and welcome to Women Awakening.
I'm your host, Cynthia James, and I am so excited
(00:24):
that every week I get to introduce you to another
phenomenal woman, and not that they're an exception. What they
are is there are people who've said yes to life,
yes to bringing their best self to the planet, yes
to being of service, yes to opening their hearts and
inviting us to take a journey for our own health
(00:46):
and well being, joy and freedom. So we do this
every week. You know, We're on all the platforms Spotify, iTunes,
iHeart Speaker, Amazon Video, on YouTube look for Women Awakening
with Cynthia James. You can also go to my website
Cynthia James dot net and you can join my private community.
There's gifts for you and lots of things going on
(01:08):
in my world. So I am very excited. I'm introducing
you to someone new to me today. Her name is
doctor Jane Gardner. She is a true pioneer in using
psychology in the business world to unleash higher performance in
organizations and once entrepreneurs see the difference, her process can make,
(01:29):
they have a they will have harnessed a power greater
than anything in business that's ever experienced, that they've ever
experienced or ever known. So doctor James serves everyone, anyone
who wants to unleash the unlimited potential inside each of us.
She has devoted her professional career to a personal transformation process.
(01:55):
It's called high performance Breakthrough and it's created to increase
level of fulfillment and happiness. And her latest book, Best
Job Ever, she has co authored with Joel Patterson, founder
of the Vested Group, a software RP company, and they
have taken this process into the business world, showing how
(02:17):
our personal mood and mindset impact engagement, accountability, performance, and
ultimately the financial growth of the company. Doctor Jane, thank
you so much for being here.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I'm so glad to be here and know that we're
awakening as women. It's time is.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Most certainly is most certainly is. So I want to
know you know where you grew up, how you grew up,
because a lot of people kind of think that success
just sort of drops in and not that there's a path.
So how did you grow up?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh, Cynthia, thanks for asking. I Hamilton, Texas a town
of three thousand people at least, and I always bragged
that I was second in my graduating class of twenty
seven people. So you know these classes. My daughter's in
one of five thousand. But it was a great life
(03:26):
growing up in a small town. It was also a
place where I had fun as a child. And then
there was a day that something happened that kind of
changed it for me, and I think I probably closed
down instead of kept in that childlike wakefulness, that joy,
(03:46):
that exuberance of life. So I had two brothers. We
were close in age. My dad was an entrepreneur in
the town, very successful, and so I learned. I grew
up in a family run business and my dad was
up here to me. He was the leader in our family,
(04:07):
and my mother helped him. And I played with both
my brothers till I was twelve or thirteen, like we
were equals. But you know, when we started going through puberty,
my dad wanted my two brothers to go to work
for him at the factory, and they did, and I
began to see that, Wait a minute, I felt left out,
(04:31):
and so I asked my dad. I said, Daddy, can't
I do something? You know, I'm an artist. You know,
I could do some of the designs for your monuments
because he had a tombstone company. And he just kept saying, Oh,
I don't want my little girl in that dusty, dirty factory. Well,
(04:52):
my brothers got to dress up in coveralls and goggles
and had all what it looked like a lot of
fun driving around with the are people working in the
truck and going to lunch. So I just kept insisting, Dad, please,
you know, and I was pretty persistent as a little
thirteen year old. So he finally said, you know, I'm
sure my mother told him this. He said, you know, honey,
(05:15):
why don't you come and you could work in the
outer office and you could draw designs for me, and
then by the end of the summer, I'll pay you
like I do your brothers. You know. I think it
was five dollars a day, which was a lot of money. Hey,
And so I did. I worked all summer, Cynthia. I
had so much fun. And I colored them and I
(05:39):
mean they were beautiful. My mom suggested I put them
in a notebook before I presented them to Harem at
the end of the summer, which I did. And so
the last day I went in and show it, and
he flipped through them and I could tell he was impressed,
and I felt like I was part of the family business.
(06:00):
So I went running out to the car because my
mother was ready to go school, shopping for school supplies
that I was going to, you know, change from working
in the summer to going to school. And then when
I got in the car, she said, oh, honey, did
you bring your colored pencils you've been using with your dad,
because then we don't have to buy those, So run
back in there and get it. So I went back
(06:22):
in his office and he wasn't in there, and I
looked around for my colored pencils and I couldn't find him.
So I was kind of looking through things because he
had set the notebook up on his file cabinet where
he kept his important papers. So I started opening file
cabinets and then I stumbled backward and I saw that
(06:45):
under his desk in his trash can were all of
my paintings. Ah, I know.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I was so hurt, you.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Can imagine at thirteen, because I felt betrayed. I didn't
understand it, so I didn't I went running back out
to the car, tearful, and I didn't never tell my
mom what happened. I never told anybody what happened, but
I did. There was something that happened in my brain.
(07:16):
I went to the idea, the limiting belief I put
in as girls are not as important as boys, girls
can't be successful in business. There were several of them,
but it was really about girls in business that I
jumped in on. I went back to school, I changed
(07:37):
my future. I was going to be in business major.
I went to be a teacher, and for about fifteen
years as I grew up, I got to be a teacher,
got married, and I did not think of that memory
until as I got my degree in therapy and I
(07:58):
was a therapist, and then I had some business people
come to me and say, why don't you go in
a company and use your process of uncovering limiting beliefs,
and you know it could help our business. And I
kept saying no, you know, I did everything. I just
knew I didn't want to do that. And so one day,
(08:23):
as I was going through this process of uncovering people's
limiting beliefs with them, I was teaching other coaches because
it had become a very popular course, and one of
the students said to me, doctor Jane, well, what are
your limited beliefs? And of course, well, you know, I'm
(08:45):
embarrassed to say, but you could just feel the color
coming up with me and I said, oh, I don't know,
and she said, well, I'd like to take you through
your own process and let's figure out out. And she did,
and of course the story came up when she asked
me questions about my childhood, because that's where we form
(09:07):
our limiting beliefs. And so I realized what was holding
me back from a big opportunity to step into the
business world with my stuff, you know, my whole process.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
You know, it's so interesting because our parents, even though
they're doing the best that they can and absolutely have
no idea the impact it is having on us and
our psychological welfare.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Well, you know, I don't think I even wanted to
bring this story up for a long time because I
didn't want to hurt my father's feelings. He loved me,
I adored him. But yes, he planted this belief in
me that really held me back.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
So here's my question. Did you ever have that conversation?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I did, and what did he say?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It was? It was long into oh, I bet he
was in his he's gone now, but I bet he
was in his seventies at least. And I told him
about it, and he looked at me so funny, and
he said, well, sweetheart, I don't know why you got
(10:21):
that opinion, because I've told your mother this a million times.
Women are smarter than men. And I said, Daddy, what
do you mean. He said, oh, honey, your mother she's
twice as smart as I am, and her business savvy
is running our business at the time, and so it
(10:43):
just it dissipated everything. He not only did he not
mean to put that, I don't think he even believed it.
I think he was trying to protect me, right, you
know he had he had a good intention.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Well, yeah, you know, but we're so fragile, aren't we.
I mean, you know, so I want to talk about
I want to talk about your process. Tell us what
is the high performance breakthrough?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yes, that's a great, good transition because I found out
as I was working with business people, and I started
out in the mental health hospital very seriously ill people,
and I got very discouraged because I couldn't get any progress.
There was only two solutions that were taught me in college.
You could do a medication or you could talk them
(11:33):
to death. For years, and neither one of them were working.
And so that's when I started thinking, there's something here
I'm not getting And I just started researching what do
people have in common that come to this place? And
I realized any conflict they had inner or outer with
(11:53):
relationships with jobs were caused from what they believed about themselves,
mostly erroneously. They were limiting beliefs that they held. So
that's why I designed this process to uncover your limiting beliefs,
because usually they're unconscious to you.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yes, so and so tell me. Are there steps to
your process?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
There are seven dialogues I call them that. I send
you a document you felled as out, we discuss it.
As a coach. I can do it in teams. Are
I can do it just one on one with executives.
Most of my I work pridmarily now with CEOs because
what I do is I find out what their limiting
(12:44):
beliefs are, and I do that through the steps of
the process. I ask them to tell me stories about
their childhood. Because the brain, it's all based on neuroscience.
My whole psychology background, so the thing we remember in
our life. The memories we have are based on significance
(13:05):
to us. We don't remember things that aren't important to us.
We may remember a happy birthday, but mostly our brain
is for protection, so it remembers the negatives because it
wants to have us learn something different so we won't
have that happen again. So where we're born full of
(13:28):
unlimited possibilities, but as things happen to us, we start
to build up these thoughts about ourselves that ultimately are
negative and hold us back. So I developed a neuroscience
process of unwiring and rewiring installing new beliefs. So after
(13:48):
we uncover your limiting beliefs, you go on a three
day retreat all by yourself, and you work out through
the steps of the process what happened, You rewire it,
and then you come back and you decide what beliefs
do I want in my head because we don't choose
(14:13):
them when they come in as children, they just happen.
So now as an adult, to take responsibility for our lives,
we can't go around blaming our parents. That's not even fair.
And so we began to take responsibility. And one of
the new beliefs that I put in my head is
(14:34):
that boys and girls, men and women are equal in power.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yeah, you know what I love about what you're saying
is those limiting beliefs put us into survival and protection.
And if you're delv it's not you're not functioning. And
so so tell me what you've discovered, because you know,
yet as the CEO goes, so goes the company.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
What have you discovered about the freedom that emerges from
these CEOs and the impact on their company?
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Well, you know, Cynthia, I have to say that when
I interview a CEO, I have to decide if he
has a growth mindset or a fixed mindset, because if
he's willing to look within, he's my person. But a
lot of CEOs are different. They know exactly what they
think and they don't want to change anything, and I
(15:31):
let them go. But there are so many beautiful women
and men out there who want to see what they're
doing and change it if it can help their employees.
So I found one that I wrote my most recent
book with. His name is Joel Patterson. And when he
(15:51):
took the process, he was the one that looked at
me and said, I want every person in my company
to experience this, because he said, I uncovered so much
about myself and it changed my relationships with my daughter,
my son, my wife, my employees. Beautiful.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Okay, So the name of this book is best I
have ever.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
That's not ever. And his name is Joel Patterson and
my name is Jane Gardner because he told me after
we put this installed in his company, he said, we
must write this up because other leaders want to know this.
Because then we hired a researcher to research and interview
(16:39):
everyone that took the process in his company and uncover
what had happened to him, because they might tell us something,
but we wanted an unbiased researcher to come in and
discover it. And I was surprised at what they discovered,
because what they found was that the women wrote and
(17:00):
confidence the men began to feel more empathy. Isn't that
in your doll? Isn't it?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
But it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
But as a woman, I identified with that confidence thing
because I knew the limits I'd put on myself held
me back my whole life from being the confident woman
I knew it could be. So the beautiful part of
this is I get to watch people transform right in
(17:33):
front of my eyes with a simple three month process,
not going to therapy for years or taking and too depressants.
There are times, of course when you need those, but
a lot of us just need to look inside and
release ourselves from what we have done to ourselves.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Well yeah, and you know, if you're in a culture
that historically has I'm going to just focus on women
for it has said that there's this glass ceiling and
some of you bringing your best self. You're trying to
navigate the waters of this glass ceiling. But if you're confident,
(18:13):
then you get to focus on bringing your best self.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
And isn't it interesting that men have more confidence in
that than we do generally speaking?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yes, yeah, well I think I think. I mean it's
like when you when you were talking about your childhood
and your brothers, You're like, come on in, you can
do this and all good, you know, and they're like, yeah,
we can do it, absolutely yeah, and they already knew
they can do it, right right. So so now the
(18:44):
intention for the book is to reach.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
More companies, that's right. I want to reach more CEOs
that are open and willing because what the research also
showed was after one year of the installation, Uh, Jules,
profits zoomed And so what we discovered is happier employees
equal equal higher profits. He was he was offered a
(19:10):
man wanted to buy his company two years later for
five times what he had told me it was worth
when I came in. So what CEOs need to know
is when they allow their people to be cared for
and valued, people work harder, they're more loyal, they don't
leave you. You know, they're invested in your your why
(19:33):
as a as a CEO, and therefore you're going to
do better in the long run.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Well yeah, but then that takes that takes great courage
to let go of the control and the rigidity that
has been you know, programmed into leaders.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
And into I really think more men than women, you know,
because you know, ninety something percent of CEOs are men still,
which you know I want to change because we as
women can bring so many different capabilities that blended with
(20:13):
theirs just makes it much more dynamic place to work.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Well, so I want to talk about this in terms
of you, you know, what what have you discovered in
terms of your own personal experience, where like you're a
woman coming in to teach them how to do it better.
(20:38):
Has there been resistance and if so, how have you
navigated it?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Oh? Thank you for asking. Yes, the walking into his company.
It's a software company engineers, so he has maybe ten
percent women and very young, dynamic, smart young men, you know.
So the first team I had in introducing this process
(21:05):
was about six young men and we met. It was
during COVID, so we met on a zoom call remote
and when I started the call, I started talking about emotions.
And I know it was naive on my part, but
I could the screens literally started coming down. They just
(21:29):
blocked me out. They didn't want to listen to it.
They went to Joel and they said, this is we
don't need this, this is useless to ours, you know,
blah blah blah. Well, so I continued, and basically my
confidence was rattled with that. I could tell you know that.
(21:50):
I thought, what am I going to do here? I
can't even get them to hear it. So what I
did was I began to ask them questions about how
they grew up. And it was interesting because after about
fifteen minutes of that screen started coming up because one
of the guys share a story that when he was
in the fourth grade, his parents got a divorce, and
(22:13):
he started talking about how it impacted him. Well, a
screen came up and said, well, that's funny, mine did too,
you know. And these guys started seeing some commonalities, and
then they began to see that their marriages. They began
to talk as men to men because it was all
men's group, and they began to say, you know, does
(22:37):
your wife ever cry? And you don't know what to do,
you know, And they started talking about emotions in this way. Well,
by the end of the three month process, they were
closer than they've ever been to another human being, because
guys just don't talk like that to each other. So
then what they got was they started wanting parents tips,
(23:01):
they wanted marriaging tips, and it became where if they
had a woman customer, they didn't know what to do
with her. And so walls began to break down and
they began to form this beautiful group of men. They're
still meeting today. They told me just about a week
(23:21):
ago when I was out there, and so see, I
think if I persist, I think that was the key
is I didn't give up and walk away.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, but I also brought heart.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I did, and this is that's the key right there.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I co teach a class at
an engineering school. It's called Science and Spirituality, and we
bring in mindfulness and we bring in you know, meditation
and different stuff to these to these young people who
are like, I need to get this done, but they
want heart, They want to open that, you know, they
(23:58):
want to feel heard, you know. And so okay, so
you're also a parent five children, Well bless you as
what I want to say there. Okay, So now I
want to know how did you manage having these five
babies and building this business and standing in your center?
Speaker 2 (24:22):
M h. I don't think I always stood in my center.
Oh I don't know. You know, I don't think I
even knew what that meant. Because my children are grown now,
and when I was raising them, oh my goodness, they
have gone, all five of them have gone through my process,
(24:44):
and you know, it's been a horror. Oh my part
I felt, Oh my goodness. They're telling all these stories
about their childhood, which they were. But what I discovered
was that I didn't have to be perfect with it.
That just opening up with them and I begin to
say to them more and more you know, I made
a mistake there because I lost my temper. I did
(25:06):
what we all do, but instead of protecting it and
you know, getting all definitely never going to admit anything,
I began to see that having heart with them opened
them up, and I always I started to teaching you
about repair and I said, you know, after I screamed
at you about that grade that was not right, let's
(25:29):
talk about it. And they began to see that I
think I was a person, and we began to get closer.
And I think that got us through all those nights
when I wasn't available doing homework for my PhD or
building a business. That is the most difficult. I think
(25:52):
that's the most difficult thing women face today is how
do we love our family and still develop up our
gifts in business are in whatever we want to work on,
in art or teaching or whatever. I don't know about you,
but that was my hardest.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, me too. My children are grown and the same thing.
It's like I didn't want to give myself away and
just do family because I felt I had gifts and so,
you know, finding the harmony because I don't know that
there was ever balance, but finding the harmony was the thing.
All right, I want to know how do people find you?
(26:32):
How do they find your work?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Oh? Well, thank you for asking.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I have a.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Website, Doctor Jangardner dot com and I have so many
articles there. You can read videos, just a library of
help on parenting, but on business ideas and a lot
My favorite group to work with our family run businesses,
having grown up at them. So that's what you'll find
(26:57):
a lot of articles about is how do you run
a business when your daughter is the admin and your
wife is a co owner? You know, That's what Joel
faced And so I would love for you to look
at my website get some ideas. Contact me on my email,
doctor Janegardner dot com, doctor Jane at doctor Janegardner dot com.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Look beautiful, it's beautiful, and ladies, don't forget the book
Best Job Ever.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I would love you can get that on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yes, perfect, Okay, So doctor Jane. I asked the same
last question of every guest on this show. The show
is called Women Awakening. What do you think is the
most important thing about women awakening on the planet in
this moment? Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Wow, Given you know the political stage and everything we're
facing in the world, with war. That's that's a great question.
I For me, specifically, it is to maintain your ability
(28:08):
to take care of yourself. That's the hardest for me
because I can give and you know, present a lot
of things, but when it comes to eating right, getting
enough slate, the basics of taking physical care of me.
(28:28):
I have one of my new beliefs that I installed
when I started my belief system is that I put
my needs first. And it's so hard, you know, well.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
It is, especially because we are inculturated as women, you know,
not with others first, you know, so pact to Jane,
thank you so much for being here for your wisdom.
I love what you're doing in the world. The business
sector needs you. I'm very grateful to have had this opportunity.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Well, thank you up doing what you're doing, helping women away.
We need to make that a journey, don't we do?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
All right, ladies, I close this show the same way
and I give you the same message with different words.
You know, here's the thing. What if you were completely
open and available to reviewing your mindset? Do you have
a growth mindset? Do you have a fixed mindset? What
(29:26):
if you were open though to exploring better ways to
love you, honor you, support you, bring your gifts to
the planet and to your family. What if? And so
I'm just gonna invite you to contemplate that, because you're
here to live the best life ever. I'm so grateful
(29:46):
to be with you every week. I love you, and
I'll see you next time.
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