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May 16, 2025 26 mins
An Intuitive Business Architect with 25+ years of experience guiding leaders to push past their upper limits so they can transcend doubt, find their purpose and step onto their divine path to millions.
Lia’s inspired programs and practical services have helped thousands of clients in over 76 countries align their unique life purpose with their business genius and highest life vision. She combines intuitive knowing and practical leadership experience to help clients push past upper limits for good. All while holding them accountable for bringing the BIG vision on their heart to life so that they can create the impact they were born to make
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'm Cynthia James, and this network is about changing lives,
one woman at a time. Welcome to Women Awakening. I'm
your host, Cynthia James, and I believe that this is

(00:23):
an extraordinary time on the planet, and I believe that
women are being called to step into their greatness and
powerful ways, and that's why I created this podcast. We've
now interviewed close to two hundred and fifty women around
the world who are change makers. They're healers, their teachers,
their entrepreneurs, and they are way showers.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
You know, They're not, you know special.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
What they are is that they are people who decided
to bring their gifts to the planet in an extraordinary way.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
We do these every.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Week and on all the platforms Iheartspeaker, Spotify, iTunes, video
on YouTube. Just look for Women Awakening with Cynthia James, Subscribe,
share the videos with your friends. I mean, there has
not been one woman that has not inspired me and

(01:19):
left me in awe. So today I have someone new
to me and her name is Leah Dunlap. She's an
intuitive business architect with twenty five years of experience guiding
leaders to push past their upper limits so they can
transcend doubt, find their purpose and step into their own

(01:41):
divine path. And she's done that around the world. She's
inspired programs and practical services that have helped thousands of
clients and listen to this in over seventy six countries.
She aligns their unique life purpose and their business genius
and the highest life vision. And she combines intuitive knowing

(02:03):
and practical leadership and experience to help clients push pasts
those upper limits and all the while holding them accountable
to bring the big vision on their heart to life
so that they can create impact, the impact that they
were born to make. Leah, thank you so much for
being here.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Thank you so much for having me Cyndia. I'm excited
to speak with you today.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Well me too, But I want to start with how
you grew up. You know, there is a misconception that
people just kind of step into their dharma and are
ready to go, but you know, not realizing that we've
all had a journey of evolution.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
So what's yours been?

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Oh? Thank you, Yes, I agree.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
There are so many stories, and I appreciate you asking
this question because it has been a journey.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
You know. To look at me today.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
You might not know this, but you know, I actually
started out with a significant lack of understanding about my
gifts and my powers because the family that I grew
up in, it wasn't really it didn't resonate with them,
that wasn't.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Who they were.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
As an adopted person, I literally felt like an other
in my family for a very long time.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
So it took a long time for me to really.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Own what I thought was a problem as a gift.
Right I thought was making me wrong was actually what
was making me exactly right for where I needed to
be and what I needed to do in the world.
And so my journey started off really rocky, and for
many years I tried to be the good daughter and
do all.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
The right things and everything that everybody was telling me.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Was supposed to be the good and right way to
be successful. And you know, probably for the first I
would say thirty years of my life, that was my trajectory. However,
I was very unhappy if I was honest with myself right,
and so it came to a point when when the
moment of truth for me happened was when I kept

(04:06):
going back to the corporate world and all the things
I was supposed to be doing all the while my
heart was just really begging me to be more fully
who I am, to share my gift as an oracle
and an intuitive and to help people find their purpose.
That has always been very clear to me. And so
one particular day, I was working as a sales rep.

(04:26):
I was working in the offices, and I was having
to travel around in the city. And in this one
particular day that I got a really full on what
I like to call a two by four moment, while
the universe said, Okay, that's enough. You've got to step
more fully into this. You have to be who you
really are. And that was that day. I drove across

(04:49):
a bridge during rush hour traffic, which in my area
that's hours of sitting in traffic, and all of a sudden,
I felt this sharp pain in my shoulder. I started
to I couldn't breathe, and I started a panic. And
I'm in the middle, literally on the middle of a bridge,
heading back to the office to check out for the day.
And instead of just getting off the bridge and turning

(05:11):
around and going home, I went all the way to
the office and I paced in front of my my
manager's glass door, and he called me in and I said,
I think I'm having a heart attack. He's like, what
are you doing here? And I now, I don't suggest
this to anybody. I drove myself home and I went.

(05:32):
I called my husband on the way and he's like,
get over here so he could take me to the hospital.
And while it wasn't you know, there was a lot
of medical stuff that was going on for me, it
wasn't a heart attack. And what I learned later was
it was that calling of like enough, you have to
stop trying to live in a world you don't belong
in anymore, and you have to do what your work is.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
You have to do your purpose.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
And so during that process of recovery, it became really
clear to me that I wasn't going back, which meant
I had to really embrace everything I really was and
I had to give everything over to it.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
So that was my journey.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
Was like, it wasn't easy. I always kind of did
it on the side. You know, some of you might
be hearing this and thinking, oh, yeah, you know, you
just kind of use your passion or your purpose a
little bit to kind of solve yourself.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
But I fully embraced it.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
I jumped into it at that point, and I really said,
this is who I am. I have all these skills,
I have all these talents, but I also have this
amazing gift that can help people to find their own way,
and I'm going to give it everything I've got to
do that. And that was in two thousand and eight,
and you know, we're many years from that now, but
that was really the biggest impact of my journey was

(06:39):
like to really step onto this path fully realizing that
what I need to do is here to help other
people understand who they are, what they need to do,
and how they can do that in.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
A more aligned, ease filled way.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Then I went, and their path can be much more
brilliant and full of prosperity and also full of purpose.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Well, what an incredible story, you know. And what I've
noticed in the women that I've interviewed is that so
many of us felt like, what are we doing in
this family? What are we doing in this experience? Because
this is not fitting with who I've come here to be.
And I also find it interesting that you made that

(07:21):
leap in two thousand and eight, which was a very
interesting time economically, you know, But that thing about surrender. Yes,
I want to talk about your work, but I really
want to talk about surrendering to the gifts that you've
been given that nobody else has, and you may not

(07:42):
know how to bring them, but you have to surrender
to it to allow it to emerge.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Absolutely, And for me, what I recognized was just by
letting go of this external expectation of what was called
success and listening more to what was really calling out
from inside of me to be born, I was able
to kind of lean into that.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Now. It certainly was scary. I'm not going to pretend
it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
That first day, as you said, it was not exactly
the best timing, but I knew, right, I knew that
I had to let go of everything. And I often
say to my clients, you have to let go of
the vine you are clinging to now so you can
reach the next one. That next branch is always going
to be a little further away.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Than you want it to be.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
And then in between, I think is when, as you
were saying, I think that's when we trust, that's when
we have that connection to our center, our source, our
our psychic I'm going to say psychic nesting, like that
internal side of you that knows the truth all the time,
and we can tap into that because that's tapped into source.

(08:52):
And so for me, that's really what it was. I
really started becoming more driven from that perspective of what
my choices were, how I was going to be. It
wasn't easy, but it was more and more fulfilling the
more and more I did it. And that's like to me,
that was the thing that really made it, saying like, oh, yeah,
of course, of course if I listened to that guidance.

(09:14):
Of course, if I trust myself and I trust that
I'm being divinely guided, then I can take that next step,
even if it's scary, even if I don't really know
what's going to happen next. So for me, that that
is what it's about. It's aligning to that over and
over and over again with every.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Choice you make.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, and I want. I'm really curious.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
About you called it oracle intuitive knowing psychic ability. So
did you have a mentor or someone that helped you
develop it or did you just surrender and keep opening
so that you could see what the gifts were and
how you might deliver them?

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Right?

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I am some I would say both fortunate and unfortunate
in that I've always known that this gift existed for me,
and I didn't really have anybody growing up around me
like that was like that, So I never really understood
it until I got older, and I didn't have mentors
necessarily about my gifts.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
But what I did was.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
I had really important reflectors that showed me that what
I was feeling and experiencing was real and that I
could trust it and that I could use it. I
think once there was a woman that when I was
in hypnotherapy school. Her name was Marlee Moulder. She was amazing.
I kind of a joke. She was like a female Yoda.

(10:43):
She had this presence about her where she just would
say a sentence and you were like, oh, yes, of
course that's true, right, Like this is Her energy was
so amazing And one time she told me she walked
by me one morning in one of our classes and
she looked at me she says, hmm, hypnotized by your
hair and then walked away, and I was like, what

(11:04):
what what.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Does that mean?

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Right?

Speaker 3 (11:07):
And what I realized is like for me all my
life because I happened to grow up in an all white.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Family, long hair, long blonde hair.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Blue eyed family, and my hair of course, if you're
not listening to this, I have very curly afro hair.
And it was such an interesting, like just a little
tidbit that she dropped. But what it did was it
allowed me to kind of reflect back, like what does
that mean to me? And I feel like, while I
haven't had people who specifically said, oh, you're an oracle,

(11:36):
and this is what that means and this is how
that's done, I think my journey was more about owning
because I started recognizing this gift when I was fourteen
years old, right, and I had no one around me,
but I knew. I knew it was real at that

(11:56):
age because of what experience I had had. I saw
my friend full body apparition, and I was like, Okay,
now I'm seeing this. But when I saw it, what
was interesting was that I remember then all of the
other times I had seen and known things, and my
parents and my family were like, oh, it's just imaginary,
you have imaginary friends, or you know, it's just a dream,

(12:18):
it's not real. And so when I was fourteen and
it happened and I was alert and I was old
enough to know, I was like, no, this is a
real thing that's happening. To me, and so I think
I took my own counsel at that point because I
had no one else to talk to, and I just
learned to engage in it in a way that felt
good to me, that was helpful. I always used it
to help my friends and other people that I knew,

(12:40):
and so I always had that experience of it being
at least internally normal to me. But I really needed
someone outside of me to say, and this is why,
and this is how. And Marley Mulder was definitely one
of those pivotal people in my life who said, now,
this is amazing what you're capable of. You are is

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needed in the world. So you know, I had that
encouragement to continue to develop that skill and lean into it.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Well, you know, I mean you said earlier, if it's yours,
you're going to go anyway, whether you know what you're.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Doing, true, true, absolutely know.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
You call yourself an intuitive business architect. Describe that to
the audience.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Yes, well, you know.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
The other thing that it's important for me and was
important for me when I did step away from the
corporate world was I had spent all this time in
sales and marketing and operations, and I had kind of
risen to the higher levels in the organizations, and so
I knew things and I understood things, and I had
these skills around business. So part of me was like, well,

(13:47):
I have like all of these talents, how how can I,
you know, utilize them?

Speaker 4 (13:53):
And then I have this gift and at.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
First when I you know, I kind of threw up
my shingle and I started working as a hypotherapist and
using my intuitive gift. What was amazing to me is
that the universe kept sending me people that happened to
have business problems, and then they were like, I'm like, oh, well,
then we can talk about the practical side, we can
talk about strategy, we can talk about like hiring and
things like that, And all of a sudden, I saw
how it could be woven together and how my intuitive

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gifts could help me show and work with clients around
their businesses and what they were creating. And then by
helping them understand their own purposes, I was able to
basically architects with them that vision and that dream of
what they wanted their business in life to be.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
And so that's how it became.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
It became known as the intuitive business architect because I
could help them lay out a plan for that vision
by using my intuitive gifts and my knowledge from my
past experience, you know, with over like twenty some years
in different corporate titles and different corporate endeavors.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, you know, it's so interesting that nothing's ever worn.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Whatever wherever we are, whatever we're doing, whatever we're.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Learning, it's not wasted.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I mean, I too was in corporate America, and when
I started doing other things, it was like, oh, I
learned how to do that over there.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
You know. So you have a book called a power plan.
Tell me what that is and what's the purpose of
that book?

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Thank you for asking.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
So the purpose of the power Plan, it was a
divinely inspired book. When I went through this person of
my journey where I had left my first husband, I
was walking on the streets with fifty per cents in
my pocket, and the oracle just kind of sounded off
with me, like this is not the way your life.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Was meant to be.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Like, I was on the streets literally just a few
cents in my pocket, wearing the clothes that I walked
out of my life with, and I was like, in
the lowest point probably in my whole life, But what
happened next was that the Oracle said, this is not
this is not a this is not where it ends,
but this is not how it's meant to be. And

(16:04):
I was given the steps to get me from there,
out of that situation and back not only on my feet,
but back on the right path. And so I started
writing these things down, I started following these practices, and
so I created this book after the fact because what
I started doing was just sharing in small groups. And
the Oracle came back and said, this needs to be

(16:25):
out to more people. You need to reach thousands of people.
And I was like, I'm just little me.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
How do I do that. I'm like in this little
tiny town.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
I don't know how I'm going to reach all these people.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
And so it was like write the book.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
So then I wrote the book based on the program
that I've already been running for a few years. And
so then we did an online program. We did the
book so that we could reach more people. And what
it does is it walks you through six simple steps
anyone can take, no matter where you are in your
life and your journey right now, to bring you to
more alignment for where you were meant to be. And
so I do this still now included in my current

(17:00):
program called The Limitless Life Club, but more importantly, I
wanted anyone to be able to get their hands on it.
And that's truly how I reached out to people in
seventy six countries and the book has gone international that way,
so people can have it follow along. And I love
getting stories from people when they're like, oh my gosh,
I'm like on the third week of this program and

(17:21):
I've already had all these amazing things happen to me.
I've changed time with my husband, I've got a new job,
I'm more healthy. Like it's a holistic approach to creating
a life that really truly is aligned and purposeful.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Well, I love that. Can you tell us what the
six steps are for anybody who's listening, because I want
them to go get your books right?

Speaker 3 (17:42):
So here are the succeps, not necessarily in order, but
so one of the first steps that I think most
people kind of overlook when they're doing this. So I'm
going to start right here, which is gratitude. So it
talks about how to have a gratitude practice, and it's
specific to the way that we hold it each day.

(18:03):
Then there's also you know, of course, there's community, so
we want to be in alignment with our community. We
want to have accountability so that we can really stay
on course and watch what we're doing. So we have
gratitude and we have accountability, and we have the community aspect,

(18:27):
which is like finding finding your flock, so you can
have that community. There's also, of course, one of the
ones that I think, you know, if you've heard the
Secret or you've heard about manifestation, one of the pieces
that I think is always really important is action.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
So that's another step, of.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Course, and with those steps, we really help you in
the book create a pattern a practice, so it's like
you don't have to think about the steps, you just
have to follow along with the book, and then the
steps become your own practice, right. And then visualization, which

(19:06):
so often I think people when they talk about visualization.
There I realized many years later, when I'm running up
a program because I used to run this as a cohort,
every time I'd say the word visualization, this one particular
person would kind of get glossed over. And I finally said,
do you understand what I mean by visualization?

Speaker 4 (19:26):
And she's like, you know, I never understood it.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
So I'm going to take a second and say to
people who are listening, you know, visualization and the way
that I teach visualization might be a little bit different,
which is not only to visualize what you desire, but
to see yourself inside.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
Of the having that desire. Right.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
So, if you're running a if you see yourself or
you desire to run a marathon, it's not seeing yourself
outside of the picture, but instead seeing yourself crossing the ribbon, right,
breaking through the ribbon on the other side. And a
lot of times people just see their visualization or their
ideas or their dreams as if they're far away, and
when they do that, they leave them in the far away.

(20:08):
So this idea of like how we visualize, and so
I take people on a deeper journey into each of
those aspects so that they can really embrace them, and
ultimately it becomes part of their life, you know, once
they've done this process enough, those steps become part of
their practice of how they live their life.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Yeah, and it's so important.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
You know, there's so much going on on the planet
today and people are feeling concerned, they're confused, They're like,
what's my part in it, how do I bring my
gifts forward? So what you're talking about is a roadmap
that people can use to really step into their own power.

(20:49):
And I loved what it said in your It said
move past their upper limits the things that they think
are blocking them. Well, you know, I want to say, Okay,
so you had fifty three cents in your pocket when
you left your first marriage. You have another relationship now, correct?

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (21:10):
And and you're running this business?

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Definitely yes, So so how do you manage the energy
of taking care of you, taking care of the relationship,
and taking care of the business.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Oh, that is a wonderful question.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
I think that's a really important I think that kind
of ties back to the idea Like often people say, like,
what's this work life balance thing about? And I always
remind myself, you know, like what are my priorities? So
I definitely start every day with a meditative practice so
there's not a day, and I also end every day
with a gratitude practice. I think those are kind of like,

(21:50):
you know, those are the bookends to how I manage
in between the day. But I also think that we
have to give ourselves a lot more grace, especially as women.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
I'm just gonna say this.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
We have to give ourselves a lot more grace because
we typically do take on a lot more in our
lives and our families and things like that.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
So I will have a.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Practice of priority, right, what is my priority? How do
I today do? What's mine to do? And then the
other part is like letting go and giving myself grace
when some of the things I thought I was going
to do what I didn't get to. I think it's
really important, but really ultimately having the grace to just

(22:29):
know those things that are most important and in the moment, right.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
So we just stay in the day.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
I like to say, like just remind myself be here now,
what do I need to do right now?

Speaker 4 (22:40):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (22:41):
What is it right now? And sometimes that is like
you know, spending more time in one area of my
life than another. Sometimes that is I also have a
you know, a preteen teen kid, so that's a lot
of energy as well. So it's like what is the
most important thing that I can give to the situation,
to myself? And you know, I will be honest, you

(23:03):
know I haven't always been the.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
Best at self care. You know, as we say self care.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
But what I've realized over the years is that sometimes
beating myself up for not taking care of myself is
worse than just moving on to the next day and
letting the next day be the thing.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
So I've learned.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
I think it's maybe because I've done this for a
little while now. You know, my husband and I have
been together for thirty years this year, so you know,
we have a we have a way of being together
that allows each of us to be whole people.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
So I get to be a whole person.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
And sometimes, you know, I'm not great at it, and
sometimes I'm phenomenal at it. So I have to give
myself the grace of understanding that. You know, there's going
to be ebbs and flows. But if I just stay
where I am and I practice whatever I can and
be aware of my priorities today and right now, then
I will be the best me I can in any moment.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Well, it's so interesting you and I have a lot
in common, and I just find it so wonderful you're sharing.
How do people find you and your work?

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Well, anyone who's interested can find me at any platform
under orcle on Purpose so orcle on Purpose dot Com
of course is my main site. I have a podcast
as well called worcle on Purpose Podcast.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
It is also on all of.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
The streaming platforms, so you can always find it there
and of course right now, if you are interested in
like the book or how to how to take on
that vision of creating a limitless life, you can always
join us at Limitlesslifeclub dot org.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Beautiful we Lliah, You're just powerful and I'm so grateful
you said yes.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
To your destiny.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
I would I asked the same last question of every guest.
The show is called Women Awakening. What do you think
is the most important thing about women awakening on the
planet in this moment?

Speaker 3 (25:03):
I would say the most important thing about women awakening
on the planet right now is that the wholeness of
who we are gets to come back energetically and make
powerful change in the world. So much of who we
are as women is creative, and there is so much
available to do and heal and create in the world

(25:25):
today that the more that you and I and others
like us are stepping into that fullness, truly, we are
making an entirely different world every day the way that
we do that. So to me, I think the most
important thing right now is as we awaken to who
we are, fully, we get to bring all of ourselves
and all of our energy and healing into the world,

(25:47):
and it definitely needs it today.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Amen. Amen, Amen, Amen.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Well, thank you so much for being here. You're quite
beautiful and I'm very grateful.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
Oh, thank you, Thank you so much. Cindya.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
I just really appreciate you and what you're doing and
how you're shying a light on people like this in
the world.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
All Right, ladies, here's the thing. I say the same
thing every week in a different way.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
This is your time.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
You know, there's no more time to play small, pretend
you don't know, act like you're not here for a reason.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Because you know you are.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Those intuitive gifts have been encoded in you, and so
you can, in any given moment say yes and the
universe will correspond. I'm so grateful that you're here. I'm
so grateful that we have this community and that you
are an awakened woman.
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