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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello and welcome to Women of Valen Podcast, a show
that highlights the incredible journeys of women in our small
town of Whalen, Massachusetts. So an episode dedicated to a
man might sound like a little unexpected ride. While we
are growing, we are now releasing stories in different categories.
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And this one, this one belongs to the man of
Whaland this category, this story category is a space to
honor the men from this town who dared to live
outside that comfort zone, who empowered others, who taught us
something lasting. And this is our second story in this category,
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a story about a man who changed lives, a man
who played, who questioned, who loved, and who dared greatly.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Change happens at the speed of trust. When you can
trust a person, an idea, an organization, a concept. When
you can trust, you can go so much deeper, so
much faster. You can open up the space of possibility.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Doctor Pablo Suarez passed away in July twenty twenty four,
and the ripple of his absence has been felt across continents.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
You would never remember someone you met for thirty minutes,
and anyone who is exposed to Pablo, even for like
a bite sized moment.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Changed their life. It's about remembering, it's about honoring the
life he lived and the people who carry his story forward.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Every connection is such a gift. This is our human family.
You know, when I think of just the extraordinary diversity
of people who are in that just in that WhatsApp group.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You'll hear from his beloved wife Jano, friends and colleagues
from around the world, and you will hear the sound
of what one life fully lift can leave behind. This
is ten percent more courage. A tribute to Pablo Suarez.
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Doctor Pablo Suarez, citizen of the world and resident of Whalen, Massachusetts,
transcended the mortal rem on July sixteenth, twenty twenty four,
after a sudden cerebral hemorrhage. Pablo was born in La Plata, Argentina,
on November twenty one, nineteen seventy A matt geek turned humanitarian,
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he once said, a systems modeler turned artist, a scientist
who learned that solving risk meant first embracing the human heart.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I think he'd want to be remembered truly for trying
to bring heart into the most difficult work. Pablo, you know,
he brought true joy and happiness, and he's almost like
a pied piper.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
He was not afraid to tell us when things were
not working, you know, he said, your work's not ready
for the things we were about to do. And he's
so One of my favorite memories of Pablo was sitting
around that lake and fantasizing together about work and where
we could make a difference around how power shows up
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in communities and organizations, how we leverage power for the good.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
He called out injustice, bullshit, and indifference to truth, and
then he offered something better, a different way, one built
on quer play.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Pablo was really passionate about playing games, board games, puzzles,
you know, Jenga kinds of games, you know, any kind
any kind of game. And he was also really fascinated
with game mechanics, that there are so many different kinds
of games and and what is it about play, you know,
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that is so infectious that we all want to do.
And I think part of Pablo's genius was that he
really brought his passion into his work and there was
no separation, you know, between life, personal life, and work life.
It was all passion for Pablo and designing games to
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sort of inhabit a I mean it really comes from
his mathematical background system dynamics to be able to inhabit
a complex system and make your own authentic decisions, but
experience the consequences of those decisions.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
If Bablo had one super power, it might have been
turning the impossible into a game. He knew that the
system don't change because of rules. They change because of stories,
because of laughter, because someone dares to throw a paper
airplane at.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
The u ED.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Pablo was a game maker who loved to create climate
simulations using a mix of familiar objects and complex systems thinking.
Some of his game kits consisted only of pens, paper,
multi colored post it notes, and a bag of dried beans.
He and his partner Jano were renowned for turning these
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simple materials into experiences that engage the minds of both
enumerate farmers and economists. At the World Bank, with a game,
they could help agrarian communities in Africa learn what microinsurance
could do to mitigate the risks of droughts. They could
also help staff at multilateral institutions prototype parametric insurance models
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for countries seeking disaster risk financing. At the White House,
Paulo once held a foam frisbee in front of a
large audience, saying it represented a hurricane. He asked everyone
to stand up and take action to dodge the storm.
Without warning, he threw the frisbee, hitting a participant in
the leg. He then guided the startled and laughing audience
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through the importance of storm forecasts, and yes, a group
of two hundred climate experts eventually learned to dodge the storm.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Over the next two decades, Pablo would help the world
reimagine how to confront disaster, how to plan with joy,
how to act before it's too late.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
All of this work from the simple to the complex.
Pablo helped players understand the probabilities and consequences associated with
adverse climatic events, and his favorite tool for this was dice.
Pablo possessed more types and colors of dice than anyone
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I know, four sided, eight sided, twelve sided, twenty sided,
But wherever he went, he kept encountering players who understood
that dice all have a known and knowable probability of
landing on any particular side. In a devious quest to
introduce an uncertain probability into his games, Pablo sought out
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some object that he could toss and where it would
be impossible to predict how it would land. And here
is how his sometimes crazy mind made magical leaps. One day,
after he and Jena returned from the vet with their
beloved Epo, an idea popped into his head. Struggling with
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a cone of shame around EPO's neck, he asked, what
if one were to throw a lamp shade a cone
with a top cut off, onto the ground. He discovered
that with a careful flip and twist, a lamp shade
could land on the small open end, the large open end,
or roll around on its side, but it is nearly
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impossible to guess which one it will be. Pablo brought
that lamp shade to multiple events we ran at the
World Bank, causing laughter and a fair bit of confusion
among those who participated in our crazy games. But it worked.
It introduced uncertainty to a space where sometimes we just
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don't know how certain decisions will work out. Whenever I
see a lamp shade, I also see Pablo's rye smile
as he would prepare to toss it during one of
our games, tearing us all to predict which side it
would fall on.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
He didn't just study risk. He taught us how to
play with it, to understand it, to rehearse it, to
talk about grief and geoengineering and iniquity and water levels,
all through the universal language of play.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
But in the games, you want to be able to
see how different people have different appetites for risk and
play differently. So he devised this brilliant way.
Speaker 7 (09:32):
It was.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
It was kind of the core of all games we
designed together that you'd have a wind state as you
know yourself, but you would have a second win state
as a team. So there's a built in trade off
that I may want to make a decision, make a
choice in the game that you don't agree with, but
you're on my team, so we have to figure it out.
Speaker 8 (09:56):
These innovations have really changed the world, from the smallest
villages in the poorest countries to the negotiations of the
United Nations Framework conventional climate change, for instance, with innovations
like forecasts based financing, putting humanitarian money to use based
on the forecast before a disaster rather than after the fact.
And he was such an inspiration to the people that
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work with him from the young talent that we could
attract to the Climate Center to actually me individually. I
always enjoyed the conversations with him for the sparkle that
he would bring, and the sharpness and the interest, the
curiosity about how the world worked, but also how we
could really make a difference.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
He made functional dialogue and art form functional if you
can hear the fun in the functional, as I say it,
And in doing so, he invited everyone to the table,
not just six berts in suits, but farmers, youth, elders, artists,
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and scientists, because all of us are part of the solution.
Speaker 9 (11:00):
My name is Lori Gerring and I'm a longtime climate
change journalist.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Aula. Hello. My name is Felipeolino Fevo, Mexican New Yorker cartoonist.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Hi.
Speaker 10 (11:11):
This is Simone Bai log Way sending this to you
from Ehaica, New York.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
Hello.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
My name is John Crowley from Connecticut.
Speaker 8 (11:18):
My name is Martovan aust Hello.
Speaker 11 (11:20):
My name is Aaron co.
Speaker 9 (11:25):
I first met Pablo in twenty eleven at the Climate
Change Cup meeting in Johannesburg, and.
Speaker 8 (11:30):
I've no Pablo working closely together for many years at
the Red Cross Red Cressent Climate Center.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
I met Pablo be assumed during the early age of
the kovid era, when he began to organize cartoonathans for
they institutions worldwide.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I first met Pablo Suarez through a classmate at the
Kennedy School of.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Government, and I met Pablo in twenty eleven when I
started working for the Red Cross Red Crossing Climate Center.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
US the hard questions gently, He made space, and he
helped the rest of us be ten percent more brave
just by being himself. Bablo had a gift for calling
things what they were. He believed that bullshit was just
indifference to truth, and he couldn't tolerate that. His work,
his life was about replacing that indifference with care, with action,
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with something better. He reminded us that discomfort isn't a problem,
it's a prompt.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
We started out thinking we just have to communicate the science,
and Pablo realized that. He used to say, research shows
that showing research doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
In the face of climate injustice, rising risks, and institutional inertia,
Bablo's answer was always the same, be more human, be
more courageous, and bring others with you.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
He did a program, He did a talk in one
of the big auditoriums in Buenos Aires. I think there
were twenty five hundred people. And Argentinians do not give
you their attention lightly, as he would say, most of
the people in the audience were doing everything they could
to get the attention on them, you know, because of
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the Argentine male ego is sort of a national treasure,
and he was aware of that and he go But anyway,
so he's in this huge auditorium and he is getting
people to play this game where they have to make
decisions and they've got to either protect against flood or drought,
and to do that, they have to put their arms
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up over their head, like making a bucket symbol with
their hands if they're protecting against drought, and they've got
to put their arm over their head like an umbrella
if they're protecting against you know, rainfall and flood. And
he had them eating out of the palm of his hand,
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you know. I mean, he had this huge audience, you know,
of Argentinians just going along with him because he makes
it so much fun.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Pablo didn't just teach with charts and graphs. He used humor, art,
and discomfort as tools for transformation. Let's explore how he
brought science and emotion together and taught us to rethink
what it means to learn.
Speaker 9 (14:31):
I first met Pablo in twenty eleven at the Climate
Change cop meeting in Johannesburg. He was tossing frisbees into
an audience to explain how climate change made hurricanes more unpredictable.
First he threw a normal frisbee, which was easily caught.
Then he threw a big, floppy one that wobbled above
the crowd and crashed into the ground. You know how
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to handle the storms that are here now, but what
about the ones that are coming, he asked, and everyone
immediately understood. Finally, I thought, here was someone who could
really communicate climate risk. I was wild, like so many
other people were, by him, by this warm and brilliant
person who could really communicate with humor and fun and
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creativity and change things.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
As a result, his ideas gave birth to early warning systems,
community action tools, and storytelling models used across the globe,
from the Vatican to the White House, from rural Togo
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to Boston University. Pablo's map has no borders. It was
stitched together by impact. He elevated adaptation to the same
level as mitigation He argued that grief belonged in science.
What made his work different was in the scale. It
was a soul. Every chart, every meeting, every innovation began
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with people. Pablo left us a toolkit of courage, provoking
cartoons of laughter at the edge of despair, of intellectual rigor,
paired with deep, deep kindness. He showed us that the
systems are human, and so are solutions. Let's begin at
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the beginning in La Plata, Argentina, where Pablo's journey first began.
Before the humanitarian, before the scientist, there was a little
boy in Argentina with a curious mind and a giant heart.
Let's go back to those early years and trace the
roots of Pablo's brilliance.
Speaker 9 (16:49):
My name is Maura.
Speaker 12 (16:51):
I'm Pablo's mother from La Plata, Argentina. Hey, when Pablo
was in pre school, he was four or five years old.
His teacher said that he was a child who didn't
ask for help. He worked out the difficulty situations in
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which he found himself, but he was always ready to
help the others. She said that his laughter was absolutely contagious,
and all the children wanted to play with Pablo. It
is good to see that as an adult, he has
been faithful to his nature and has been a person
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full of friends, full of love to give and to receive.
And I am very proud and happy to have had
him for fifty three years and to keep him in
my heart forever.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Pablo was raised as a Catholic whole nine yards. He
was an older boy. He has a complicated family. He
grew up as an only child with his mama, and
he lived in his grandmother's home, Laanona, and his first
language was Italian. His mother's family emigrated from Italy when
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she was I don't know, probably eleven years old, and
so they were sort of, you know, first generation immigrants
from Italy to Argentina. His father was a similarly, his
family was a recent recent immigrants from however, from Spain,
and I think his father was an older teenager hated
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having to leave his friends in Spain and moved to Argentina.
But until Pablo was thirteen years old and he saw
his father on the weekends, and he thought that his
father lived in Buenos Aires. He said that he had
a little sort of detective notebook, and he was starting
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to wonder. He had curiosity about his father. But when
he was thirteen. They were going on a vacation. It
must have been school break, and his father had this
sort of camper and his mom was in the back
arranging things in the camper, I guess, and Pablo was
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in the front seat with his father and they were
on the road they were driving, going off on vacation,
and his father had a heart attack or we all
thought it was a heart attack, and he died, and
Pablo had to actually climb over his father to stand
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on the brake, so they probably all would have been killed. Yeah,
very sudden, sad. And Pablo's mom had some I don't
know nearby in the town, near the town wherever it happened,
she knew some people and she asked them if Pablo
could stay with them, and he stayed with them actually
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for a few days, and never went to the funeral,
never knew where his father was buried. But after a
couple of years, his mother told him that his father
had another family, and that he had siblings, and that
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she had been in touch with his father's wife. Yeah,
so his mom had been you know, the secretary. It's
one of those romances where her families. Pablo was the
other family, and he said, you know, living in his
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grandma's house, you know, she would watch these telenovelas where,
you know, the the boy would fall in love with
the girl, and then there would be this terrible realization that,
oh no, it's actually my sister. So there was this
lunch arranged for him to meet the youngest girl, and
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he said he was terrified that he would fall in
love with his sister. But he said when he met her,
they had so much in common. And you know, they
like all the same music, they have the same sense
of humor, and they just became fast friends. It took
it took a long, long, long time for all of
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his seven brothers and sisters to come around, but he,
you know, he really made up for a lost time.
In the last few years.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
He delighted in his nieces and nephews. He mentored younger
scientists like they were family.
Speaker 13 (22:02):
My name is Vido Gresso. I am from Argandina, and
Pablo was my uncle. I have a lot of good
memories with him, but what I missed the most is
that even we thought seeing him a lot, every time
he seated us, he made me feel listening like no
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one in my life. He really put attention on what
I had to say, even if I was a kid
or an anolessent, like he really cared for the people
he loved, and even for the people he didn't love,
Like even without knowing some people, he always put all
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of his heart, all of his love for everyone and everything.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Long before Pablo became a global name, he was just Pablo, husband,
a son, a stepfather, a brother, a cousin, a friend.
He and Johano shed over two decades of life work, tenderness,
woven into travel, laughter wrapped around hot days.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I was living in Whaland and I had come back
to Whalen to go to grad school after my divorce
because my parents were in Whaland. I had this horse.
So I was actually renting a little cottage from Mainstone
Farm because Devin's Hamlin at Mainstone was kind enough to
you know. I said, well, you know, could I bring
a horse with me? And he said yeah, sure, you know,
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you just have to put up some fence, and there
was even a little barn the same horse that I had.
So Pablo has said, I married a woman and her horse.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Behind the public work was a beautiful private life, a
deep partnership filled with love, respect, and co creation. Jana
takes us into the heart of their shared journey.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
I mean we had first kind of met in two
thousand and one, and we had worked you know for
like two years without meeting face to face, and then no,
really we only met for like twenty minutes. I wasn't
really until like the end of two thousand and three
that we went to have this lunch together. And I
think we just we met at like a coffee shop
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somewhere near bu for like twenty minutes, and I just
you know, sort of went over the terms of the
contract with him and said, okay, great. And I remember
I was surprised when I saw him because he was
so tall and he had these like really twinkling blue eyes.
He really, you know, he he wanted to share his
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love of math, and so he started just you know
looking I mean whenever we would you meet a kid,
if there was any mention of you know, a math
or a struggle, he you know, he would offer to help.
And I think his first his first two te was
the daughter of some friends and she was struggling a
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bit in math, and so she had she had a
session with Pablo, and I remember he had a deck
of cards, and he invented sort of a card game
with her, and he, you know, he was trying to
understand what does she know? What does she not know?
So he was playing around with these cards and asking
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her questions and she's, you know, performing different math functions,
and so he was able to sort of assess what
she knows what she doesn't know. And then he I
remember he was he was showing her so, look, you know,
if we do this and this and this, then this happens.
And she was really intensely focused. So her mom told
me that was on the weekend and then she went
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into school and Monday morning, she's in math in elementary
school and the teacher is showing something on the board
and she said, now, I want to introduce something a
little bit new. Does has anybody seen something like this before?
And the kids are all looking and there's this little
girl who raises her hand, the girl who is sort
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of a problem in math. And so the teacher was,
you know, surprised, and she said are you sure, and
she said, yes, yes, I know what you're talking about.
And so the teacher asked her, would you like to explain?
And she just explained the whole thing because it related
to what she'd been talking to Pablo about. So the
teacher was so astonished. She got in touch with the
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parents and said, I don't know, you know your daughter,
I mean she's been struggling and then all of a sudden,
what's going on? And they said, oh, she had this
drink session.
Speaker 11 (26:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
It was so funny. And Pabla wouldn't take any They
wanted to pay him to tutor her, and they wouldn't
take any money.
Speaker 11 (26:54):
But he agreed.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Because we had just moved to our new house. It's
been like two thousand and seven. We moved from Rice
Road and we moved into this great house which is
very Italian, so it's perfect for Pablo on Orchard Lane.
And the funny thing about this house when we were
first looking, there are all these walkways and in the
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concrete slab of the walkway is the Pythagorean proof, you know,
I mean, it's like, who does that? And so we
were walking around the house and there was this grape
barber and I'm going, look, Pablo, there's an arbor, which
is very common in Argentine homes. And you know, people
when it's hot, you know, in the hot season, they'll
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eat outdoors with tables under the grape barber So I thought, oh,
you know, it's so ittality, and it's this perfect for Pablo,
and then we see the Pathagorian proof, and we just knew.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
His legacy doesn't live in institutions. It lives in people,
in the heartbeats of those he believed in.
Speaker 10 (28:04):
He was visiting DC once and I was you know,
this as many years ago, but I was in my
late twenties, mid to late twenties, and we were sitting
down and having a really deep conversation, and I said
to him, you know, I just can't really imagine bringing
a child into this world given the current state of
the world, you know, to bring another child into this
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world with the resources, resources constrained, constrained as we have
it now, as well as what that child's future would
look like and the ethics around that. And without skipping
a beat, he said to me, Simone, the world needs
people like you would raise. Don't ever think that you
should not have a child because of the world's constraints,
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in the world's resources. We need people like your child
would be. And that has meant more to me than
anything that frankly might parents have set around children, child rearing,
anything like that. And I have a happy, healthy, three
and a half year old, and I am raising her
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to be somebody that Pablo would be proud of.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Grief is just love that has nowhere to go, But
in Pablo's case, it has everywhere to go. In every
person who's sent in a voice note, there's a piece
of him still alive in every person who asks what
could I do if I were ten percent more courageous?
There he is again, whispering, nudging, smiling.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
None of us predicted that we would be without Pablo
as we face the uncertainty of these dark times. When
I visited his grave last month, I did not lay
a wreath or lay a flower. I placed a twelve
sided die next to his birth date, which I then
remembered as a whole six days before my own. And
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I quietly asked myself, for probably the thousandth time, what
if I've been able to grab just one more coffee
conversation with Pablo, one of those all morning discussions that
spin off into a thousand exciting ideas. But I think
I know the essence of what he would say, John,
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you need to be ten percent more daring because it
is when you step out of your comfort zone that
you enter the space where the magic happens.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
He built not just a network, but a net, a
human safety net of friends, thinkers, dreamers, do us, a
living architecture that holds up his mission.
Speaker 14 (30:52):
My main pableau. Nobody thought this would be your time
to go last and forever, or in the starlit memories.
I know your big heart lives on, loving the rhythm
of life. You give with every hug, one sip of
your energy, and people just want to chug your life
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and your work, your ideas and passion. I'll never forget you,
your love, ever lasting, my man Pablo.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Last year we honored him by spending the day wandering
through the places we have visited together. We will always
cherish our moments with him, and from now on, whenever
we are in parties, we will also celebrate him with
a Pablo Day.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
So one of the things one moment.
Speaker 11 (32:01):
Oh oh, there are so many, oh my word.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Even in death, Pablo gave his final act of generosity
was donating his organs, saving the lives of two people
who will now carry a part of him forward. His
funeral was attended by many, many traveled down to Whyland.
I was a part of it. It was so beautiful.
There was a whole gallery displaying his work and art.
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It was almost like the world came together as a family,
and across the world, people lit candles, hosted zoom memorials,
shared voice notes. Pablo didn't just connect ideas, he connected people.
He was a master builder of what he called collective intelligence.
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His collaborations spanned continents across universities, global organizations, humanitarian hubs,
and artistic spaces. He built bridges between worlds that never
spoke to each other until he walked into the room.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
We carry this magical bit of Pablo inside our souls,
this scientifically sound but joyfully local approach to wicked problems,
as we think through how to fix our breaking hearts
and our broken work.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
His legacy. It lives in a flood early warning system
in Togo, in policies shifting, in geoengineering, in games played
by children in Nepal that teach climate resilience, in cartoons
that explain systems thinking to teenagers. It lives in laughter,
in question and courage. So to you who are listening,
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what could you do if you were just ten percent
more courageous today, what would you create, whom would you call?
Where would you bring your full self to the table.
That's how Pablo lives on, in the choices we make,
in the joy we bring, in the care we show,
even when it's hard. This episode was created in honor
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of doctor Pablosuares. Maybe all be more bold, more kind,
more playful, more human for Pablo.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, I mean in many ways, I know he's with me.
Speaker 11 (34:39):
Yeah, I know he's really with me.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
I love you, lovey, thanks sharing story.
Speaker 15 (34:55):
Beautiful, handsome, kind man who made people laugh even when
they were meeting him for the first time. You know,
I will never forget how my.
Speaker 11 (35:07):
Mom, mother and father remembered him.
Speaker 15 (35:10):
Of all the people who in the housewarming, they were like,
I know this guy.
Speaker 11 (35:14):
This guy was wonderful.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yes, Mama, we sat down, chatted.
Speaker 15 (35:20):
They were blown away by