September 18, 2025 • 55 mins
We look into the intersection of corporate influence and creative execution within WWE's programming. The "Match Match Match" podcast trope is used to critique what is described as "inferior improv" and "corporate suffocation of creative," leading to generic and uninspired storylines. This is exemplified by a "tedious" go-home promo for a mixed-tag team match involving CM Punk & AJ Lee against Seth Rollins & Becky Lynch.
Meanwhile, this creative direction coincides with a significant new partnership between WWE and ESPN. A media call with ESPN executives Matt Kenny and JT Lasker took place ahead of the Wrestlepalooza Premium Live Event, which will be the first WWE event to stream exclusively on the ESPN app.
The executives expressed excitement about the deal and, according to multiple news outlets, are open to adding more WWE Premium Live Events to their schedule in the future. The new partnership aims to integrate WWE further into mainstream sports coverage.
WWE Wrestlepalooza marks a new era as the first Premium Live Event to stream on ESPN. Taking place at the Gainbridge Fieldhouse in Indianapolis, Indiana, the card features several high-profile matches with major storylines.
The main event features a long-awaited mixed tag team match as two of wrestling's most iconic couples collide: Seth Rollins and Becky Lynch taking on CM Punk and the returning AJ Lee. The rivalry between Rollins and Punk has been simmering for months, and with the surprising return of AJ Lee, this mixed tag team match is poised to be an all-out battle.
Another major bout on the card is the highly anticipated showdown between John Cena and Brock Lesnar. This is billed as one of the final matches on Cena's retirement tour, and the feud was ignited when Lesnar made a shocking return to attack Cena after his loss to Cody Rhodes at SummerSlam.
The Undisputed WWE Championship will also be on the line as Cody Rhodes defends his title against Drew McIntyre, who has been a thorn in the champion's side. Additionally, a new Women's World Champion will be crowned when Iyo Sky battles Stephanie Vaquer for the vacant title, which was recently relinquished by Naomi.
AEW All Out 2025 will be held at the Scotiabank Arena in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and features a card filled with intense rivalries and high-stakes championship matches. "Hangman" Adam Page will defend the AEW World Championship against Kyle Fletcher in a highly anticipated main event. The AEW Women's World Championship will be contested in a four-way match as "Timeless" Toni Storm puts her title on the line against Jamie Hayter, Kris Statlander, and Thekla.
Other notable matches on the card include a Coffin Match between Jon Moxley and Darby Allin, a feud that has been brewing for nearly a year. The AEW TBS Championship will also be on the line when Mercedes Moné defends her title against Riho.
In a tag team grudge match, Adam Copeland and Christian Cage will reunite in their hometown to face off against FTR (Dax Harwood and Cash Wheeler). Also confirmed for the event is a singles match between MJF and Mark Briscoe, adding another layer of drama to a stacked card.
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for Wrestlpalooza.
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Speaker 2 (00:45):
I want to shout out to Joe Nagron Wiggley the show,
the show that I used to listen to when I
was becoming an aspiring wrestling podcaster Smart Wrestling Fan, and
if I'm correct, I believe that show is still continent
use today. Well at the time, I remember listening for
a number of years when Joe knight Ground was co
(01:07):
hosting with Dishband and one of the things you always
heard on Smart Wrestling Fan if you listen to the
show still now or before, and the recaps they would
have for matches. It was always when they were just
looking at a generic match that was just being a match.
It was you don't cover the moves, it's just matchmatch, match,
(01:28):
match match match. I don't know what that memory came
back for, but it was the perfect thing for me
to go ahead and add into the title of this
week's show, as we prepare for Russell Palooza this weekend. Now,
I covered a lot of ground so I didn't have
(01:49):
to go too long on tonight's show. I mean, probably
go the hour if we're going to go anywhere with this,
because so much has been going on and wrestling anyway,
with the counterprogramming with Russell Paloza and all this year. Okay,
and then you have all out basically missing all of
the major issues altogether of the counter programming. It looks
(02:11):
like they're gonna come out of it, Okay. Now, I
make this point that if you're looking at what is
currently on the schedule for college football this weekend, I
have talked about this, the scenario that Russell Palusa is
(02:32):
putting itself in because of the fact that they're going
to be going head to head now up against college
football this Saturday night. Now, as for the games that
aw's gonna have the goun worry about that'll be up
against at the same time as the pre show that
(02:56):
A're gonna have the brawl and all out itself. Let's
say go from two to six pm Eastern time, they'll
do with what Oregon State versus Oregon, pretty even Notre Dame,
Michigan versus Nebraska, Auburn versus Oklahoma. Those are the games
you're gonna have in the middle of the afternoon that
will encompass what the college football lineup is. But then
(03:18):
you have at night four versus Miami and a big
matchup on ABC. Fox will be carrying a NBC will
be carrying Illinois Indiana, which a lot has been put
in that game. These are two games that are expected
to be high scoring affairs. By the way, if you're
(03:39):
a betting man, you're gonna relaze. They're gonna be high
scoring affairs. South Carolina Missouri, that's your feature SEC game.
Those kind of games right there are gonna take some
audience away. And I'm just telling you it's something where
for ESPN they have games that are gonna be covering
and pretty One of the things that the director of
Consumer app is gonna really do so of a big
(04:00):
difference on this here, I don't know, but we can
figure it out. ESPN had a media call today to
discuss Resclpalooza and lead everybody up into what they're gonna
be doing with said programming coming up. Now, we're gonna
talk about that. We'll do some previous predictions for both
RESCL Balza and all out coming up a little later on.
(04:20):
But then also gonna go and break down the a
J leec and punk see Seth Rowl's Bicky Lynch segment,
the go home promo leading up to Wresclpalooza, and the
mixed tag match coming up. And I'm just saying it's
twenty one minutes of improv and not good improv either.
(04:44):
And what I mean by improv, you know that's where
comedians used to be back in the day. But like say,
like if you used to watch Saturday Night Live, where
you still do now, there is a method as to
how some of these comedians were able to go and
become good at using script or doing storylines or just
whatever they were doing to do Saturday Night Line. They
do sketches, well, they had to go be part of
(05:06):
a comedy troop for the most part, you didn't. You
normally see comedians that would just be standalone out on
the road during your traditional stand up. No, you'd have
actually some groups that are out there that would represent
comedy troops, and that would be the rest representation of
what people will go and find. National Lampoon Kids in
(05:27):
the Hall, Manti Patha was flying Circus, so there's some
idea IDAs like that, the Groundling, Second City. Those are
the kind of comedy troops that were out there that
you would recruit most of the talent that would be
on these type of shows from and they knew how
to improvise. Think of the show whose line is it anyway?
(05:50):
That's basically what w is doing right now is they're
forcing talent that is very competent and very accomplished, a
lot of veteran talent. They're all being left out there
to go and do whose line is it anyway? They
get some kind of scenario, very little storyline to work
(06:10):
off of because there's not been any storyline to work with.
It'd be one thing if these stars were able to
go and have a storyline they could really work off of,
but they're not. They're improvising on the fly out there,
and they're given a lot of time to do that,
and you can tell there's not much structure behind what
they're doing. They're not stuck to a particular structure as
(06:31):
to how much time they have for a segment. Because
they're on Netflix with ww right now, they're current programming,
it's really easy for them to go just structure. I mean,
they're not doing seven minute matches. They're doing fifteen to
twenty minute matches anyway, match match match, So the improv
you just got to figure out, well, let's get it
(06:52):
close to around the time we need to get it,
because when Netflix, it doesn't matter really when you have
the actual commercial break, and then anything that you do
with the live programming also, you're just like, well, if
we need to trim a match a little bit here,
something a little bit there, but the segment's kind of
like just stay the same. There's no such thing as like, oh,
cutting out a match or cutting a segment short. Like
(07:14):
they're not doing that either. Because of the way that
the format of structure right now for these shows is
so wide open and there's so little that they're doing
on all these shows and just stretching out the time.
That's all they're doing right now. So let's get into
the actual media call that was going on. This is
a courtesy of Fightful for putting this out there. ESPN
executive is talking power w counter programming, aw Brocklizard while
(07:39):
returning while mentioned in the lawsuits, there's a lot that
they can cover. And just so you know, the people
that they spoke with that we're taking questions from the
wrestling press and on the mainstream presses itself were Matt Kenney,
ESPN vice President of Programming, Programming and Acquisitions, and Gt. Lasker,
Senior Vice president of ESPN Plus. So to get this
(08:03):
all started, that's going through this. Where's the inaugural media
conference call that was between w and ESPN to promote
Russell Paluza coming up this Saturday. The first such joint
call is part of a new five year partnership between
WREE and ESPN. Now Kenny Matt Kenny leads ESPN's programming
(08:26):
and acquisitions for categories including pro basketball, Combat sports and
professional cross Lascar overseas, overall growth strategy and general management
of ESPN Plus. So they covered a lot of topics.
Now some of the things they brought up in here
were is that the deal was originally spent to begin
(08:47):
in twenty twenty six, but moved up to start with
Russell Bluza. Kenny explained that ESPN had the Zuo contact
with Peacock, the streaming partner for w beforehand during negotiations
that emphasized the mutual excitement to launch early. Lasker noted
the partnership and includes a minimum threshold of poes that
must be summlcasts on ESPN's new direct to consumer service
(09:08):
and linear TV channels at maximized exposure. This is all
from fightful dot com, by the way, that all transcribed this.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
ESPN specifically requested the September twentieth date for Russel Balooza,
but Kenny clarify the choice had less to do with
counter programming aw and more to do with creating a
Negati event opportunity, though he acknowledged the competitive landscape. So
Matt Kenney is now going to take the onus for
the September twentieth date and the counterprogramming ESPN's going to
(09:39):
take the fall for it. That doesn't make sense to me.
So let's take some comments that were made from Matt
and JT in this call. Again, this is from Fiful
Wrestling on their YouTube channel. They put this out there,
so I want to give proper credit and Sean Ross
have asked questions of both of them, it is thanks
for doing this.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
We've seen in the past to bwe's counter program their
competition quite a bit. How did that weigh into the
decision to run Wrestle Polluza this weekend or did it?
And do you all foresee that happening more in the
future or do you all kind of want more of
an uninterrupted wrestling market and audience to appeal to.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
For us, it's we work collaboratively with the WWE on
the schedule. In this particular case, many of their events
had already been scheduled normally in these in these in
these types of arrangements, and so my team and I
work on the NBA. We also handle UFC. There's really
(10:37):
a lengthy process where you work with the partner to
identify specific dates, You build out your schedule so you
align in that regard and so on. On some level,
WWE scheduled throughout the rest of the years. Throughout the
rest of twenty twenty five, there had been a number
of dates already on the calendar, and in this particular case,
(10:58):
we were just laser foxocused on launching WWE. We knew
we wanted to have a marquee WWE event in September
to support the launch of ESPN's direct to consumer offering,
as JT mentioned before, So it really had had less
to do with any particular wrestling competition. In fact, we
(11:19):
take a holistic view. We know there's competition everywhere, and
certainly in the fall on Saturdays. I don't need to
explain to this group there's no shortage of college football
competition throughout the day, right and we're in the teeth
of the football season now, so we welcome competition. We really,
you know, we do take a hey game on approach,
(11:41):
and we're focused on what we can do in this
particular case to super serve WWE and wrestling fans on
our platforms.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, that's a fine answer. It really doesn't hold water
because it effected I mean, okay, they couldn't do anything
after August, maybe technically contractually, because Clash in Paris or
any other pay per views beforehand would have been still
be handled by Peacock under their deal, and the DTC
(12:12):
service of ESPN didn't come on until what September? No, No,
it was in August, right, It did come up in August,
So it's been about I want to say, it's been
four weeks since they launched the service. They could have
done something where they could have had the pay per
view scheduled before college football season began, because at that
(12:33):
point in August, they didn't have anything else to go
and cover what WNBA major League Baseball, which is what
once or once a week I think it is. They
didn't have much of the schedule, so they could have
put it earlier. But it's very ironic that they decided
to go ahead and pick a Saturday during college football season,
which is not gonna be easy for them because they've
(12:53):
got a lot of college football they cover anyway you had.
They have to go ahead and deal with this as well.
Of course, the production, the production issue is not gonna
be a problem because that's that's the w's team that's
gonna be doing it, so they provide the feed. But
for ESPN, I mean, this deal starts up right away,
and yeah, they can hype it as much as they
(13:14):
want on ESPN, but college football, pro football is taking
priority to any kind of fans of competition or sports.
So the competition we're talking about here, it doesn't make
any sense because of the fact that, I mean, okay,
let's go give the benefit of the doubt. They didn't
care about aw all out or where they were putting it.
But you're not telling me that w officials probably did
(13:36):
not kind of encourage the fact that, hey, let's go
in and put it on this weekend, that weekend that's
going on. Let's do it then, because they could have
very well done that. An ESPN wouldn't have been wise
to the fact that they were actually about the going
counterprogram's actual competition, which they don't consider competition. But regardless
(13:58):
of the fact that they are counterprogramming aw all out,
well doesn't matter now because the aw all out moved
up in the afternoon and they've already set president before
because when WWE tried to counter for like this beforehand,
they moved up. They don't want anything to do with it.
They're just gonna GEU out of the way. That's fine.
More content more contexts than they came out of that
(14:20):
call came was there's no plans to acquire rights to
the historical tate library of classic episodes and classic papers
use on Plase, which will still stay with Peacock until
the deal expires in March twenty twenty six. Kenny indicated
that ESPN's more Current is More can focus on the
current pl deal and building their own library of great
events rather than pursuing the back catalog. Well, the quality
(14:42):
of that library you're gonna be building up right now,
starting up with Wressell Paluza is gonna be a little
bit shallow and a little bit hollow. If you can
see when I was, the quality is not gonna be there.
I mean, you might look good, but as the context's
gonna be good. You know, Wrestling fans like me were
very skeptical about it. Also asked about a dedicated studio
(15:03):
show similar to NFL Live or First Take, They said
there's no commitment at that time, but sportsmen will be
on site in Indiapolis for Russell Paluza coverage. They also
said that reporters and journalists will have full independence in
how they covered w ITS events and competitors like aw
The partnership does not restrict objective for forty and they're
(15:25):
going to be offering wall the Wall coverage of Russell
Paluza on the ESPN DTC service, a special on Friday
night or so Friday afternoon four o'clock on the ESPN
two and on the app be hosted by Peter Rosenberg
and Indiania Patriots basketball star Tyris Haliburton, you know, all
star player. They'll have Sports Center from Indianapolis on Friday ESPN.
(15:49):
Rader will host account Down to Wressel Radio Wressell Palusa
Radio Show and Booker Team and Brad Gilmour will host that.
There'll be a road To show and that'll be hosted
about Oh Jackson, Ice Cube's Son and TJ. Jefferson, And
there will be superstar appearances on the ESPN programs rough
out the week seth Rawn's Becky Lynching, Punk, AJV Cuddy, Roads,
(16:09):
the u S, Soods, Drummacatar and bron Breaker, and they've
already been featured on various programs right now. They also
said there might be changing to the schedule where the
ESPN partnership might lead to major scheduled adjustments to align
with ESPN's programming needs. Triple H has noted that the
(16:31):
event came together quickly and could become a staple and
that ESPN is committing to treating the w as a
major sports entertainment property. We're through robust promotional efforts and
a focus on long term growth. Okay, interesting, but I
don't know how it's going to do overall in that
kind of sense, if it will do as good as
people think it's going to. So that's the focus of
(16:55):
what happened in that media call. So ESPN's on board
and we'll see how that goes. Now, let's move back
over to what happened with Seth Wrongs, Beggy Lynch, seeing Punk,
ag Lee all and the ring together. By the way,
once Seth and Becky got into the ring, you're roughly
(17:18):
waiting for what three minutes for them to go and
get started talking. Then they move along and they chat
chat chat, and then we get the interruption by a
g Lee and then seeing Punk three minutes after and
they come on out, And we're gonna go ahead and
play the part where the conversation between seeing Punk, A
g Lee, Beggy Lynch, Seth Rongs is all together. We're
(17:40):
gonna go into that part and at least see what
happens here because this is the improv. Now, of course,
yours backstory with all of them their own individual stories
they've had. Okay, we both know that they are married couples,
so everybody's aware of that too. That's not the part
that I'm worried about. It's about putting this together. Everybody's
(18:02):
all hyped up about a g Lee returning to the
company and now the real story. Can we build some
heat for this match because there hasn't been much heat
for it. I guess you could say there is, but
this is the go home show, the go home raw
leading up the rest of Baloza. Now, can these four competent,
(18:26):
veteran wrestlers, this talent, can they put together a good
enough story to really build some heat here? Now, Yeah,
we've seen in the last few weeks seem Punk was
getting slapped in the face, paint brushed by Becky Lynch regularly,
as seth rows as being in the background standing behind
the wife, all that, and Becky Lynch just acting, you know,
(18:49):
over the top, acting a fool and kind of like
giving the big time becks kind of feel while being
very heel like while kind of changing up her persona
since she joined the Vision, which Vision no one else
has evolved Braun and Bronson are often their own thing.
Paul Haym is, nohing Long not even involved in this.
So it's just these four and they have to make
(19:09):
something out of nothing. Okay. Now, of course the match
that we should be caring about would be seeing punk
Seth Wrongs, which they haven't really given us that yet.
We've seen them in the me ring with each other,
in matches with a triple threat, or in something else,
but nothing where they were actually in a match with
each other. Oh, well, was the cage matchic?
Speaker 9 (19:30):
Was it was?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I think it was other than that. No, you know,
I mean it's like Seth Wrongs right now is holding
over the World Heavyweight title. He is not defending it
in favor of this. But of course we know that
the Cody Roads during his title run also did not
have ahead a time where he was not defending the belt,
but he was in some kind of attag match as well.
(19:52):
We know that too. This is what they do. It's
kind of a generic by the numbers storyline that do.
But like I said, let's play the clip here. I'm
gonna run through all of it. We're gonna just break
it down together and the improv and how they try
to work this out. I mean, the crowd already is
(20:13):
into them anyway. They're completely engaged. How show luke crowd.
It doesn't matter to have them all in the ring.
They got all this hype for it, the pop pop,
pop pop pop. But now the real matter is what
are they saying to each other? What are they doing
to really build tension for this match on Saturday?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Hello everybody, I am AJ's husband.
Speaker 10 (20:52):
And I'm not gonna waste hard time, my time, your
time with an overcompensating long win. Did introductionists to who
she is? I allow it, no explanation needed. It sounds
(21:20):
like they know who I am, and it sounds like
they came to see her and they sure as hell
know her name.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I'm not much of the seeing punk being the softer
kind of character, like we've always preferred the surly, you know,
straight edge, something worse. Who's just too soft?
Speaker 10 (21:46):
Who's the team leader here? Who's the man? Let me know, Becky.
I'll start with you, ladies first. I made a career
in this company, on this microphone, in this ring about
telling people what I thought of them to their face.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I don't need to talk behind your back. I just
don't know. I'm overwhelmed at what to say about you too.
I mean, look at you, goofs.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So we're gonna try heat with the attire.
Speaker 11 (22:21):
Please come on, you with no style of it punched
you in the face.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
You're idiots.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Come on, we're with a tire now.
Speaker 10 (22:33):
You brag about being the most what famous couple? The
greatest wrestling couple? But you guys can't get on the
same page. Ken, you can't share that spotlight. We had
to listen to two crappy songs. While I have no
(22:53):
problem putting Cult of Personality on the shelf and letting
this young lady light it up.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I mean, everything's a lee no focus, won't see him
points that wrong? What's what?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
You obviously share a wardrobe?
Speaker 10 (23:09):
Unfortunately, But can you share the spotlight or a Saturday?
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Just gonna be real easy for the two of us. No,
are you gonna be a unified front? Are you gonna
be a happily married tag team? Or you're gonna let
your egos get in the way? Egos? Shut up? You
(23:42):
want to bring up egos?
Speaker 11 (23:43):
Seeing punk wants to talk about egos? Point the finger
at us. You are the most selfish human being.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I have ever met in my entire life.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
What some respect human incarnation of harping. You know what,
Thank you, thank you, thank you for defending my honor.
I appreciate that. But look, no, I'm gonna do something
right now, very selfless.
Speaker 11 (24:21):
It's going to hurt me immensely, and it's gonna make
all of these people here happy. All right, I'm gonna
do something very unselfish, and I don't want to do it,
but I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I'm going to give cm punk credit.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I mean, we're not trying to rewrite storylines, rewrite gimmicks here.
This is a pretty simple storyline. Now, let me go
back to one match and one similar storyline that trump's
this over and over and over again. Wrestle Mania thirty three,
the lead up to Johnsena and Nikubella together versus the
(25:14):
Miss and Maurice. Now, if you remember me talking back
in twenty seventeen about the setup for that match, it
was like, okay, so Johnson and the Mis together, and
we all panned that particular feud, thinking was not gonna
be good. But the truth was that was one of
the best things they had at WrestleMania thirty three. Just saying, so,
let's just play back once again. This was miss and
(25:36):
Maurice dressing up as Johnson and Nickubela, and the way
they set it up like you had a storyline right here,
the mocking of total divas of John Cena at the time,
and this was good stuff and it wasn't that hard
for them to put together. I imagine Miss and Marie's
probably just like, hey, let's go with this idea. And
that was enough just to get Johnson Nicobella all pissed
(25:58):
off for a pretty funsh.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
You wish you would be half the man that my
husband is, but you're not. And you know what your
problem is.
Speaker 12 (26:08):
It's your ego. Oh and you know what they say,
Bigger the ego, smaller the package, John Sina respective, you.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Just made the biggest mistake your life.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Hey, writ you mess with my man, I'm gonna break
your back, break your bitch.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Isn't it crazy?
Speaker 10 (26:41):
I think we've been together for over three years now.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
I am madly in love with the most amazing man
that has other step foot on this earth, and I
couldn't be happier.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
A lot of text and I love you more than
I loved any more in my entire.
Speaker 9 (26:54):
Life, Nikky, I love you.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Me d let you do a toast before we si
before we do.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
These are the house rules.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Rule number eleven of John Cina's House Rules.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
House Rule.
Speaker 13 (27:07):
If you guys are gonna be up late, please text
me or tell them.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Rule number eight of John Cena's House Rules.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Never ask me to advance your career when the cameras
are rolling test this kid.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Replaced Jehan, John, I need to see some type of
commitment that makes me feel and believe like you'll always
be there for.
Speaker 9 (27:27):
Me where I'm at in my life.
Speaker 13 (27:29):
I truly believe that I don't want to be married
and I don't have kids.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
John Sina, will you marry me?
Speaker 9 (27:38):
I'm not going to marry you because I don't love you.
Speaker 14 (27:41):
I only love myself, John love, I only love myself.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Nikki and John's plastic, fabricated lives spits on every real relationship.
I spend hour after hour, day after day with this
woman because I love her.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
You are your best. John Cena is jealous of me.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
He is jealous of my relationship, jealous of all the
talent that I possessed.
Speaker 12 (28:14):
Nicky Bella is jealous of me because I have this
which she'll never have.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
And Nikki Bella will never get one of those because
John Cena only loves himself.
Speaker 13 (28:30):
You too, talk and talk and talk and talk, and
you don't even listen to yourselves because if you did,
you would realize just how ridiculous you sound. Mike is
the guy that screams at the top of his long Grace.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
And I have been the ind couple in the WWE.
Speaker 13 (28:48):
I'm just happy to stand alongside the woman I love
and keep pushing forward doing exactly what I love. And
you want to knock Nicole for not having kids?
Speaker 4 (28:55):
How long y'all been married?
Speaker 13 (28:57):
How many kids?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
You can just crunch the numbers real quick. What you
fire blanks their sport.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Brother. The thing is, there's a lot of truth the
time behind all this, but the animosity was played up
really well. I think Get Johnson to the Mizroy is
good at, you know, kind of playing at odds with
each other. But this storyline to add the women to
it worked really well. They used total divas, they used
(29:24):
talking smack, they used you know, all of it and
incorporated throughout this whole storyline. And look at that, and
like what three minutes we get a storyline has so
much heat, so much animosity, and real barbs to throw
out each other to really stick this home. We finished
(29:46):
the rest of this problem, and then we'll go back
to the problem with him A. J. Seth and Becky.
We'll go back to that.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
There's nothing real about them. Everything they used to elevate
their are daycast See threw jealous hater and John's fabricated.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Spits on every real relationship.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
You're the shit couple and it stops now. And WrestleMania
we are going to destroy you. We're gonna make sure
you want to talk tough.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
WrestleMania is your curtain.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Carugh, total bells, total deals, all the stuff they were
doing at the time, and you know what, the match
culminated in something great. I mean, Wrestle Blues is not
gonna be as big as WrestleMania. They're not trying to
do that. But still that's just one match they did,
and it wasn't that long ago. It was eight years ago.
(30:44):
You could have just copied that storyline in some way,
but they cann't do that. Instead, we get more of this.
Speaker 14 (30:55):
This is the best decision you have ever made in
your entire life, in your personal life, You're gonna hate
(31:28):
me all ye want.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I'm still the world heavyweight champion.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
You're really not doing anything to really go at each other.
Nothing charge you ever.
Speaker 14 (31:38):
Made in your personal life as far as business is concerned.
Inserting her into this is a mistake that you will
regret for the rest of your days.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
No, no, swee cheeks, that mistake was yours, because I
wouldn't even be here if you hadn't used your own
wife as a human shield. That is not you're literally sayingbody.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
Nobody believed you were gonna come back. Okay, okay, nobody
expected you to come back. I didn't expect you to
come back. He didn't expect you to come back. These
people didn't expect you to come back. Okay, what's a being?
Speaker 4 (32:29):
What's a being?
Speaker 7 (32:30):
What? What?
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Ten years? Ten years you were gone? I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
But what I really.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Really can't believe.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Is how irresponsible of you, CM punk. How irresponsible? I mean,
you say it yourself. You don't care about anybody. He
said it.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
You're selfish.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
You say, okay, you only care about three things. Okay,
you care about CM punk, you care about my husband's championship,
and you will never have, and in fairness to you,
you care about aj Lee and aj I read your book,
(33:13):
I have some notes. But last week you talked, you
talked about how you've healed mentally, but how are you
feeling physically? Because in your book, in your book you
talk extensively about the damage that was done t your neck.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
How's that feeling right now?
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And the thing is, I mean, they are stretching for it.
So now we're gonna get the neck injury. Which if
there was something that was going to be about the
neck injury, we could have had something done physically to
where there was an attack and during the attack that
aj Lee had at Becky Lynch, she could have had
something where she was holding her neck. But we're not
gonna Oh, we can't do that. No, we have to
(33:55):
go and talk it out on storyline. Remember the part
where we had in Naomi that you know, she had
broken into the Billanca Belair's house right in Tennessee. And
I'm like, we couldn't done something where we could have
had that there. But again I'm asking you for too
much here. I mean, of course, the Judith delusional fandom
out there, they're gonna be like, shut up, kick a podcast.
You don't know what you're talking about, get fuck off?
(34:16):
All right, fine, but I'm just picking up a point here.
So she goes on. Then she says the Shaka bitch line, right,
and then more into this, and I'm like, all right,
this has been now what eight minutes of promo time.
We got a couple of shots on attire, a couple
of shots to see him buck being selfish. There's no
(34:36):
heat in eight minutes for this promo, nothing, and this
is fourteen minutes in nothing so far.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Shut up. What you should be worried about.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Is the fact that not even I know what I'm
gonna do next. You're right, gosh, I am.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I am erratic.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, I've been known to make.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
A rash decision.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I'm a Puerto Rican from New Jersey. Sometimes I shank
a chick.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
So we're gonna play the crazy ag thing that we
haven't done in ten years, no reference to it but
prior to this now, can't help it.
Speaker 15 (35:21):
Right, But Seth, you made a plan and you use
your wife as a backup plan, but you cannot plan
for something you can't predict.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Improv This is all im through and they're kind of
like letting the crowd do the thing.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Don't think I can handle a you.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
They're trying to like trying to dig the word to
go to this like, where do you get to the
ending of this here?
Speaker 11 (35:56):
Seth Rollins, multi time world champion, handle you?
Speaker 4 (36:05):
If anybody tell.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Them anything of what they say when they go out here,
they're not being lison.
Speaker 14 (36:13):
Little girl, You're not wrong. I may not be able
to predict you, but your husband I can read him
like a book.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
And let me tell you something.
Speaker 13 (36:41):
You may not know.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Or want to believe about your husband. He has a
nasty habit.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Of leaving.
Speaker 16 (36:58):
When things let him down. So this Saturday, when my
wife rips you into shreds, you better hope to God.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
That he doesn't leave you too. Swift response from a.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
J and then decided to use the crazy part of
ag that was the krikest you had before, which doesn't
make any sense about her coming back from her mental
health journey. Doesn't make any sense on a lady. Thankfully,
(38:03):
I'm not discrediting, I'm not putting her down about that.
I'm just saying, why are we using the crazy gimmick now?
(38:24):
And now speculations is not gonna go out tack ag le.
So there we go, and then they're fighting, and that's
how they're going to end the segment. All right. Look,
I mean there's so much noise going on with this
promo and there's no signal. I mean really, there's no
tension at all building up to the match. So we're
(38:46):
gonna just get matchmatch batch. We get improv, and we
get matchmatch batch. That is the formula right now of
what WW is giving us right now each and every week,
which is why the television shows are not watchable all
the way through. You can catch clips, even the clips
right here twenty one minutes, twenty two minutes right now
(39:07):
that the w you put out here for this particular clip. Yeah,
ay man, one point five million views people watched. I
guess I'd love to know what the watch time is.
But people are watching there. So the disco in front
of of the world say, well, that's where people are
watching their audience, right, Well, what about the the audience
on Netflix? What about that? So I want to go
(39:27):
through some of the things that I bookmarked on X
this week to bring up that I thought would be
really important. Tony Storm actually got quite a bit of
notice that I got from all the posts on X
this week, she spoke with the Saman Pod and I
don't know if I can put this out in Hell yet,
but she says that it's great that w does counter
program AW quote. I think it's great. Come on, fight me.
(39:49):
Be a bit weird of them as a large corporations
just do nothing. It would be a silly business decision
not to. Of course they are. Of course they will.
It's their job. And then when it came to WrestleMania
moving to Saudi Arabia, which we talked about on the
podcast when I did it on Sunday night and I
put it out Monday morning, Bullie Ray on the Bust
(40:10):
Open podcast makes the point about AW should be doing
a large size event for North America while the WrestleMania
is in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 9 (40:18):
The opportunity for Tony Kahan during WrestleMania of twenty twenty
seven to put on a an event in the United
States wrestle Mania esque for the people here, for the
wrestle Coan to piggyback off of, for the independent wrestling
companies to piggyback off of. It's right there in front
(40:42):
of him, man, and.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
We don't need that The thing is that the aw
is need to go and work into anything that has
to evolve competing against w They don't have to do
that because they're very comfortable right now and just being
worthy are at the moment in this certain set up.
They don't really need any of that. That's what's actually
saying themselves. But I agree with it. No need to
(41:07):
go into that route, not at all. But of course
there's gonna be those out there that think, well, AW
should just go ahead and start going into the money
night wars and going into something where they go head
to head. For whatever reason, some bookers always thought let's
go head to head. And listen, that's an Eric Bischoff
thing that happened every time Eric Bishoff has evolved. You
would see let's do head to head in ww A
(41:30):
first word but obviously had a great storyline, and then
wo that made it half possible. But then also it
was different time on Monday nights, and then we move
along on the TNA. Oh, let's move the money nights again,
and Dixie Carter went along with it, and it didn't
work it out either. So as the card has we're
coming up right now this weekend, let's just make sure
(41:52):
we make the point of this is that right off
the bat, your feature matches at Russell Palooza is Cuddy Rose,
Drew mcuitar, John that's also and then John Cena, brock
Lesner and of course Seth Becky, ciampunk A, j Lee
(42:12):
EO Sky simn of a care Women's World Title and
then Oos versus Breaker and read that is your setup
for Russell Blues A five match card. That's how they
always do these big paper views. If it's not a
two night show, they'll just do five matches. And listen,
they just do five matches all the time anyway, right,
just it five matches on a card. Somebody puts on
on a post and makes a point of.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
They relegated re Ripley, one of the biggest pressers on
the planet, to be a backstage segment merchant because trivile
H has no idea how to use her when she's
not involved in the world title picture.
Speaker 7 (42:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
There's also one comment I got on my YouTube feed.
I should bring that up here and bring that up
to discussion. And this comes from Stay Woke Folks. Ninety three.
Twenty twenty seven will be the year ww fans should
keep their eyes up, because that is year TKO Holdings
is cashing out, getting out of a professional wrestling business.
(43:04):
Is Saudi Arabia is willing to pony up nearly three
hundred million dollars or media no telling what they are
willing to throw at it to buy it. I mean
it's a possibility, but the broadcast deals have to stay
in play to keep the value of the company. So
TKO will probably have to go through another run of
the broadcast deals, either renewals or another place to go
(43:27):
for Saudi ready to take it on, because the broadcasting
is what the value is of the company right now.
The valuation of the company is based on that. I
speak that clear too, because the value is not on
the talent. The value is on the brand and what
they're able to get from the brand. Thomas Toni Stumm
also talking on this man Man on the podcast, saying
(43:47):
that when I'm done, you'll never see me in any
other company. Where would I go?
Speaker 6 (43:50):
What I do?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
I'm on a long deal for AWWWE is a machine
and I don't fit in with their whole stick. Tony
Savanni takes to create on his program about aw folks
supposedly struggling to have a strong card for All Out
this weekend. And here's what he said.
Speaker 6 (44:08):
So the critics are saying that we weren't going to
have a good card, Well, they said, you with three
of your top guys out, I mean, how can you
possibly carry on?
Speaker 7 (44:17):
Well the answer is have about fourteen top guys.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Well, why don't we do this, Why don't we get
one of those critics on here to have the book
a card for us as we have them book a
card to have them go fuck themselves too. So that's frum.
That's what happened. When podcasts Tony Schivanni and Conrad Thompson
take credit for that, give them the credit on that.
(44:40):
And as for the card that AW is going to
have this weekend, you have Hayman in a page versus
Kyle Fletcher. By way, the predictions I'll give right now
for Russell Palooza, Cody will beat Mcatyre, Seeing It will
beat Lesner, It'll be seeing plu Agle over Seth and
Becky Esky will retain the women's world title, and Breaker
(45:06):
and Read will be the USOS. I don't expect much
doing nothing much more after that, not really. If they
get somebody out there to go and build a pop
somebody returns. We don't know. Maybe I don't know something,
but I don't expect any title changes not on this
pay per view. No, I don't think it's the time.
I don't think they're gonna do it. They're definitely not
(45:29):
much into doing and I'm trying to with the fact
that really don't do a lot of title changes on
pay per views. They like to do them on television.
It's kind of like that, isn't it. It feels like
that anyway. Alfo Announcing reports that ESPN is confirming that
there's a large number of cable subscribers that will not
have to have access to the wrest of any Mania
(45:49):
without additional payment. So major descributors like comcasts in YouTube tv,
which combined for over twenty many subscribers are still on
the outside looking in when it comes to having full
access to the exclusive live programming behind the new ESPN app.
So here's what they has been said that if asked
(46:10):
if ESPN would offer some sort of limited accessibility for
pay TV subscribers that don't currently have access to ESPN
unlimited d premium app tier that will house Russell Bluza
GT Alaska and that call said no that w fans
who get ESPN through distributors like Comcasts, YouTube TV, Cox,
(46:30):
Leing TV and others will in essence need to double
pay for ESPN if they want access to the event,
they have to buy the premium package. They said. The
accessibility issue will not last song to the vast majority
of the distributors whose subscribers aren't currently able to authenticate
into the ESPN Unlimited will be able to do by
a year's end. So timeline quite failable. Will be word
(46:52):
worst case scenario. Because ESPN and Disney have deals expired
with Google and Comcasts as soon as next month, and
a distribute the network distribution partners want to avoid blackouts
with those platforms, the deals need to come to fruition
much sooner than the end of the calendar year. It's
right now, ESPN and some of the audience, you're gonna
have to really check to see if you can have
access to the paper views because rost likely you're not
(47:14):
gonna get unless you have the ESPN app flat out.
ESPN says it's doing its best to communicate the pay
TV subscribers that currently have access to ESPN Limited currently
that is Charter, Verizon, and Direct TV customers. They will
be able to watch wrestl Blues are free of charge
to Saturday. But the Cody says it's also not planning
the breach outreach of the customers that won't have access
(47:35):
to the event, which will be the very same customers
that will be the most upset and the most confused
and awful. Announcing is already repeating what I said earlier
that the hasty were looted for the new app to
align with football season, because that was the plan. The
ESPN was supposed to come out before football season started,
and this the three deal came together much sooner than anticipated.
It's all coming to a head. The network was not
(47:56):
ready to have app exclusive live programming this quickly before
work can finalize distribution deals with the several key partners.
The result there will be a large group of wrestling
fans that are guaranteed to be angry come Saturday evening.
It's not ideal, but ESPN is going to award anyway.
They're just that the hope w fans are willing to
forgive and forget once the distribution deals are shorted up
and everyone can watch as intended so expect this weekend
(48:18):
there will be some people pissed off that they can't
watch Wrestle media unless you listen to seven Fan and
go get a VPN and watch on Netflix. Right, So
keep that in mind. That's gonna be something that is
very interesting. So we're gonna have to keep an eye
on that. But that we're gonna hear some pissed off
people on X No doubt that they're not gonna be
(48:39):
like watch Wrestle Loser because the ESPN and the way
I have a setup might not work well for them
in that respect. Now, they were asked about the broco
Leasure situation. Also, Matt Kenney was asked in that media call.
I'm gonna bring that up as well here that they
didn't talk about brocolessener and that the relationship with the
W is in such where they have creative control. I
(48:59):
think it's important to provide some context here. We're distributors
of the events. They retain creative control, which, by the way,
we're fine with because they have built incredible business for
a long period of time. I don't need to be
opining on what a script should be to W. We're
excited about what they do how they do it and
can't wait for Saturday. So that's what was also said
as well. Other announcements, Nick con Is announcing that in
(49:23):
Italy next year twenty twenty six, another paper view will
be going there. According to Sports Business, there we go
more pay per views going away for North America. Do
you see the ongoing trend here with TKO What they're
doing a larger higher burier to entry for ESPN than
people thought. That's one thing. Then you have the Esprescial
(49:47):
Blues event that you know they're trying to rush this
out there to counterprogram against AW Meanwhile they're patting themselves
against college football this weekend. Not a smart move. And
then the fact that it you have Saudi Arabia, this
can be hosting WrestleMania. And then on top of the
fact that Saudi Arabia will be hosting the Royal Rumbo
(50:08):
in twenty twenty six, there will be a pay per
view in Italy that'll be hosted in twenty twenty six. So,
I mean, I want to see what the fan base thinks.
Are you really happy with all these changes? Is it
good to you? I don't know, we'll find out and
what you think about it? Sooner enough, and I love that.
(50:29):
On the air of Hajwane Show, Tony Storm is also
on promoting for aw All Out, and she was asked
about Mariah May now known as Lake Monroe, and look
at how she handled this in storyline in character.
Speaker 12 (50:43):
You know, we all have relationships like Mariah, haven't we
that end in broken glass, pissed fights, bloody kisses.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
What can I say about Mariah?
Speaker 1 (50:54):
God, We're just She's the single most.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
Evil, cold hearted bitch I've ever met in my life.
Speaker 6 (50:59):
I can honestly say that, and I'm glad that I've
I've banished her.
Speaker 12 (51:03):
I really did compromise her to a permanent end.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
But I'm a big fan of that.
Speaker 6 (51:08):
Blake Monroe.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Okay, okay, do you keep tabs on what she's doing.
Speaker 15 (51:13):
I've seen, I've seen a bit, but I don't like
study it religiously.
Speaker 9 (51:17):
Okay, it's wonderful, wonderful.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
Yes, of course, it's positive she's gone.
Speaker 10 (51:24):
Here anymore.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
So I actually like this. You're standing character for that again.
These are the things I really enjoy altogether. And one
of the comment being put out there earlier today where
somebody was competing about the fact of one of the
major voices to the juveile, delusional fandom of my fellow
podcast Wrestling Brethren. I've brought up before. I don't mention
my name, but there was a comment that was put
(51:48):
out there. He did respond to it, quote unquote, considering
all I see is the company about AW that you post,
and not the same about complaning about the W Your
point is right, but you're always so skewed towards AW
and how they should die off. I can't trust if
you actually said this is from a previous comment from before,
(52:09):
and then he writes that says, considering all you see, quote,
I've spent weeks complaining about the current product, including the
narrative you're trying to push that. I don't say the
same thing about being predictable sounding your kids example of
Cody rose dermacatarre here's a clue. If you've watched you
think content you're thinking I am hating AW will very
quickly disappear. There is the fabrication only pushed by their
(52:31):
fan base because they don't know what real criticism looks like.
So again, even the biggest loyalists of W that are
out there, you know they have to defend they're trying
to defend the inferior improv and matchmatch batch. I'm really
surprised there were so many people now in the wrestling
(52:54):
ether here that might not listen to this program. Maybe
listen to other programs out there, but maybe you catch
this program once in a while. And I'm still amazed
that there's all this animosity out there towards everybody else,
bashing at aw, bashing in other companies, you know, enjoying
the fact that Triple A you have the change of
titles now where eventually in the Talio become random the Arannas,
(53:16):
and now Dominic is a new Triple A Mega champion.
We're not talking much about that. We're not talking about
much about what TNA now is gonna be doing a
supposed to invasion angle with an XT because during the
NXT Homecoming, which got seven hundred thirty thousand viewers for CW,
a good pop for a rating for a week, and
you know, they brought some of the mystique back step
(53:40):
Lord Stephen Regel or William Regal. Of course he has
to be called over there. He gets to say war games,
right and stuff like that. The thing is is that
you know you have TENA stars fainting outrage in order
to create an invasion. Not an invasion on television, No, no,
gonna do it on social media. It's everything's backwards and
(54:03):
the other way around. But I think I've done a
pretty good job now as I finished the show off tonight,
of identifying exactly what w is. It's two things right now,
so say it with me. It's inferior improv and match
(54:25):
match Max. Now, as for all out came man out
of page, We'll retain the world title. I'll take Darbylan
on the coffin match. I'll take Tony Truman, retain the winning.
Speaker 4 (54:37):
The world title.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
R City's the name, will retain the media title. I'll
take FDR over COVID Cage a little bit like that.
Come back with another rest of the podcast. For all
those paper views, we'll do a poster right here, because wrestling,
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the show that I used to listen to when I
was becoming an aspiring wrestling podcaster Smart Wrestling Fan, and
if I'm correct, I believe that show is still continent
use today. Well at the time, I remember listening for
a number of years when Joe knight Ground was co
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hosting with Dishband and one of the things you always
heard on Smart Wrestling Fan if you listen to the
show still now or before, and the recaps they would
have for matches. It was always when they were just
looking at a generic match that was just being a match.
It was you don't cover the moves, it's just matchmatch, match,
(01:28):
match match match. I don't know what that memory came
back for, but it was the perfect thing for me
to go ahead and add into the title of this
week's show, as we prepare for Russell Palooza this weekend. Now,
I covered a lot of ground so I didn't have
(01:49):
to go too long on tonight's show. I mean, probably
go the hour if we're going to go anywhere with this,
because so much has been going on and wrestling anyway,
with the counterprogramming with Russell Paloza and all this year. Okay,
and then you have all out basically missing all of
the major issues altogether of the counter programming. It looks
(02:11):
like they're gonna come out of it, Okay. Now, I
make this point that if you're looking at what is
currently on the schedule for college football this weekend, I
have talked about this, the scenario that Russell Palusa is
(02:32):
putting itself in because of the fact that they're going
to be going head to head now up against college
football this Saturday night. Now, as for the games that
aw's gonna have the goun worry about that'll be up
against at the same time as the pre show that
(02:56):
A're gonna have the brawl and all out itself. Let's
say go from two to six pm Eastern time, they'll
do with what Oregon State versus Oregon, pretty even Notre Dame,
Michigan versus Nebraska, Auburn versus Oklahoma. Those are the games
you're gonna have in the middle of the afternoon that
will encompass what the college football lineup is. But then
(03:18):
you have at night four versus Miami and a big
matchup on ABC. Fox will be carrying a NBC will
be carrying Illinois Indiana, which a lot has been put
in that game. These are two games that are expected
to be high scoring affairs. By the way, if you're
(03:39):
a betting man, you're gonna relaze. They're gonna be high
scoring affairs. South Carolina Missouri, that's your feature SEC game.
Those kind of games right there are gonna take some
audience away. And I'm just telling you it's something where
for ESPN they have games that are gonna be covering
and pretty One of the things that the director of
Consumer app is gonna really do so of a big
(04:00):
difference on this here, I don't know, but we can
figure it out. ESPN had a media call today to
discuss Resclpalooza and lead everybody up into what they're gonna
be doing with said programming coming up. Now, we're gonna
talk about that. We'll do some previous predictions for both
RESCL Balza and all out coming up a little later on.
(04:20):
But then also gonna go and break down the a
J leec and punk see Seth Rowl's Bicky Lynch segment,
the go home promo leading up to Wresclpalooza, and the
mixed tag match coming up. And I'm just saying it's
twenty one minutes of improv and not good improv either.
(04:44):
And what I mean by improv, you know that's where
comedians used to be back in the day. But like say,
like if you used to watch Saturday Night Live, where
you still do now, there is a method as to
how some of these comedians were able to go and
become good at using script or doing storylines or just
whatever they were doing to do Saturday Night Line. They
do sketches, well, they had to go be part of
(05:06):
a comedy troop for the most part, you didn't. You
normally see comedians that would just be standalone out on
the road during your traditional stand up. No, you'd have
actually some groups that are out there that would represent
comedy troops, and that would be the rest representation of
what people will go and find. National Lampoon Kids in
(05:27):
the Hall, Manti Patha was flying Circus, so there's some
idea IDAs like that, the Groundling, Second City. Those are
the kind of comedy troops that were out there that
you would recruit most of the talent that would be
on these type of shows from and they knew how
to improvise. Think of the show whose line is it anyway?
(05:50):
That's basically what w is doing right now is they're
forcing talent that is very competent and very accomplished, a
lot of veteran talent. They're all being left out there
to go and do whose line is it anyway? They
get some kind of scenario, very little storyline to work
(06:10):
off of because there's not been any storyline to work with.
It'd be one thing if these stars were able to
go and have a storyline they could really work off of,
but they're not. They're improvising on the fly out there,
and they're given a lot of time to do that,
and you can tell there's not much structure behind what
they're doing. They're not stuck to a particular structure as
(06:31):
to how much time they have for a segment. Because
they're on Netflix with ww right now, they're current programming,
it's really easy for them to go just structure. I mean,
they're not doing seven minute matches. They're doing fifteen to
twenty minute matches anyway, match match match, So the improv
you just got to figure out, well, let's get it
(06:52):
close to around the time we need to get it,
because when Netflix, it doesn't matter really when you have
the actual commercial break, and then anything that you do
with the live programming also, you're just like, well, if
we need to trim a match a little bit here,
something a little bit there, but the segment's kind of
like just stay the same. There's no such thing as like, oh,
cutting out a match or cutting a segment short. Like
(07:14):
they're not doing that either. Because of the way that
the format of structure right now for these shows is
so wide open and there's so little that they're doing
on all these shows and just stretching out the time.
That's all they're doing right now. So let's get into
the actual media call that was going on. This is
a courtesy of Fightful for putting this out there. ESPN
executive is talking power w counter programming, aw Brocklizard while
(07:39):
returning while mentioned in the lawsuits, there's a lot that
they can cover. And just so you know, the people
that they spoke with that we're taking questions from the
wrestling press and on the mainstream presses itself were Matt Kenney,
ESPN vice President of Programming, Programming and Acquisitions, and Gt. Lasker,
Senior Vice president of ESPN Plus. So to get this
(08:03):
all started, that's going through this. Where's the inaugural media
conference call that was between w and ESPN to promote
Russell Paluza coming up this Saturday. The first such joint
call is part of a new five year partnership between
WREE and ESPN. Now Kenny Matt Kenny leads ESPN's programming
(08:26):
and acquisitions for categories including pro basketball, Combat sports and
professional cross Lascar overseas, overall growth strategy and general management
of ESPN Plus. So they covered a lot of topics.
Now some of the things they brought up in here
were is that the deal was originally spent to begin
(08:47):
in twenty twenty six, but moved up to start with
Russell Bluza. Kenny explained that ESPN had the Zuo contact
with Peacock, the streaming partner for w beforehand during negotiations
that emphasized the mutual excitement to launch early. Lasker noted
the partnership and includes a minimum threshold of poes that
must be summlcasts on ESPN's new direct to consumer service
(09:08):
and linear TV channels at maximized exposure. This is all
from fightful dot com, by the way, that all transcribed this.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
Now.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
ESPN specifically requested the September twentieth date for Russel Balooza,
but Kenny clarify the choice had less to do with
counter programming aw and more to do with creating a
Negati event opportunity, though he acknowledged the competitive landscape. So
Matt Kenney is now going to take the onus for
the September twentieth date and the counterprogramming ESPN's going to
(09:39):
take the fall for it. That doesn't make sense to me.
So let's take some comments that were made from Matt
and JT in this call. Again, this is from Fiful
Wrestling on their YouTube channel. They put this out there,
so I want to give proper credit and Sean Ross
have asked questions of both of them, it is thanks
for doing this.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
We've seen in the past to bwe's counter program their
competition quite a bit. How did that weigh into the
decision to run Wrestle Polluza this weekend or did it?
And do you all foresee that happening more in the
future or do you all kind of want more of
an uninterrupted wrestling market and audience to appeal to.
Speaker 8 (10:15):
For us, it's we work collaboratively with the WWE on
the schedule. In this particular case, many of their events
had already been scheduled normally in these in these in
these types of arrangements, and so my team and I
work on the NBA. We also handle UFC. There's really
(10:37):
a lengthy process where you work with the partner to
identify specific dates, You build out your schedule so you
align in that regard and so on. On some level,
WWE scheduled throughout the rest of the years. Throughout the
rest of twenty twenty five, there had been a number
of dates already on the calendar, and in this particular case,
(10:58):
we were just laser foxocused on launching WWE. We knew
we wanted to have a marquee WWE event in September
to support the launch of ESPN's direct to consumer offering,
as JT mentioned before, So it really had had less
to do with any particular wrestling competition. In fact, we
(11:19):
take a holistic view. We know there's competition everywhere, and
certainly in the fall on Saturdays. I don't need to
explain to this group there's no shortage of college football
competition throughout the day, right and we're in the teeth
of the football season now, so we welcome competition. We really,
you know, we do take a hey game on approach,
(11:41):
and we're focused on what we can do in this
particular case to super serve WWE and wrestling fans on
our platforms.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, that's a fine answer. It really doesn't hold water
because it effected I mean, okay, they couldn't do anything
after August, maybe technically contractually, because Clash in Paris or
any other pay per views beforehand would have been still
be handled by Peacock under their deal, and the DTC
(12:12):
service of ESPN didn't come on until what September? No, No,
it was in August, right, It did come up in August,
So it's been about I want to say, it's been
four weeks since they launched the service. They could have
done something where they could have had the pay per
view scheduled before college football season began, because at that
(12:33):
point in August, they didn't have anything else to go
and cover what WNBA major League Baseball, which is what
once or once a week I think it is. They
didn't have much of the schedule, so they could have
put it earlier. But it's very ironic that they decided
to go ahead and pick a Saturday during college football season,
which is not gonna be easy for them because they've
(12:53):
got a lot of college football they cover anyway you had.
They have to go ahead and deal with this as well.
Of course, the production, the production issue is not gonna
be a problem because that's that's the w's team that's
gonna be doing it, so they provide the feed. But
for ESPN, I mean, this deal starts up right away,
and yeah, they can hype it as much as they
(13:14):
want on ESPN, but college football, pro football is taking
priority to any kind of fans of competition or sports.
So the competition we're talking about here, it doesn't make
any sense because of the fact that, I mean, okay,
let's go give the benefit of the doubt. They didn't
care about aw all out or where they were putting it.
But you're not telling me that w officials probably did
(13:36):
not kind of encourage the fact that, hey, let's go
in and put it on this weekend, that weekend that's
going on. Let's do it then, because they could have
very well done that. An ESPN wouldn't have been wise
to the fact that they were actually about the going
counterprogram's actual competition, which they don't consider competition. But regardless
(13:58):
of the fact that they are counterprogramming aw all out,
well doesn't matter now because the aw all out moved
up in the afternoon and they've already set president before
because when WWE tried to counter for like this beforehand,
they moved up. They don't want anything to do with it.
They're just gonna GEU out of the way. That's fine.
More content more contexts than they came out of that
(14:20):
call came was there's no plans to acquire rights to
the historical tate library of classic episodes and classic papers
use on Plase, which will still stay with Peacock until
the deal expires in March twenty twenty six. Kenny indicated
that ESPN's more Current is More can focus on the
current pl deal and building their own library of great
events rather than pursuing the back catalog. Well, the quality
(14:42):
of that library you're gonna be building up right now,
starting up with Wressell Paluza is gonna be a little
bit shallow and a little bit hollow. If you can
see when I was, the quality is not gonna be there.
I mean, you might look good, but as the context's
gonna be good. You know, Wrestling fans like me were
very skeptical about it. Also asked about a dedicated studio
(15:03):
show similar to NFL Live or First Take, They said
there's no commitment at that time, but sportsmen will be
on site in Indiapolis for Russell Paluza coverage. They also
said that reporters and journalists will have full independence in
how they covered w ITS events and competitors like aw
The partnership does not restrict objective for forty and they're
(15:25):
going to be offering wall the Wall coverage of Russell
Paluza on the ESPN DTC service, a special on Friday
night or so Friday afternoon four o'clock on the ESPN
two and on the app be hosted by Peter Rosenberg
and Indiania Patriots basketball star Tyris Haliburton, you know, all
star player. They'll have Sports Center from Indianapolis on Friday ESPN.
(15:49):
Rader will host account Down to Wressel Radio Wressell Palusa
Radio Show and Booker Team and Brad Gilmour will host that.
There'll be a road To show and that'll be hosted
about Oh Jackson, Ice Cube's Son and TJ. Jefferson, And
there will be superstar appearances on the ESPN programs rough
out the week seth Rawn's Becky Lynching, Punk, AJV Cuddy, Roads,
(16:09):
the u S, Soods, Drummacatar and bron Breaker, and they've
already been featured on various programs right now. They also
said there might be changing to the schedule where the
ESPN partnership might lead to major scheduled adjustments to align
with ESPN's programming needs. Triple H has noted that the
(16:31):
event came together quickly and could become a staple and
that ESPN is committing to treating the w as a
major sports entertainment property. We're through robust promotional efforts and
a focus on long term growth. Okay, interesting, but I
don't know how it's going to do overall in that
kind of sense, if it will do as good as
people think it's going to. So that's the focus of
(16:55):
what happened in that media call. So ESPN's on board
and we'll see how that goes. Now, let's move back
over to what happened with Seth Wrongs, Beggy Lynch, seeing Punk,
ag Lee all and the ring together. By the way,
once Seth and Becky got into the ring, you're roughly
(17:18):
waiting for what three minutes for them to go and
get started talking. Then they move along and they chat
chat chat, and then we get the interruption by a
g Lee and then seeing Punk three minutes after and
they come on out, And we're gonna go ahead and
play the part where the conversation between seeing Punk, A
g Lee, Beggy Lynch, Seth Rongs is all together. We're
(17:40):
gonna go into that part and at least see what
happens here because this is the improv. Now, of course,
yours backstory with all of them their own individual stories
they've had. Okay, we both know that they are married couples,
so everybody's aware of that too. That's not the part
that I'm worried about. It's about putting this together. Everybody's
(18:02):
all hyped up about a g Lee returning to the
company and now the real story. Can we build some
heat for this match because there hasn't been much heat
for it. I guess you could say there is, but
this is the go home show, the go home raw
leading up the rest of Baloza. Now, can these four competent,
(18:26):
veteran wrestlers, this talent, can they put together a good
enough story to really build some heat here? Now, Yeah,
we've seen in the last few weeks seem Punk was
getting slapped in the face, paint brushed by Becky Lynch regularly,
as seth rows as being in the background standing behind
the wife, all that, and Becky Lynch just acting, you know,
(18:49):
over the top, acting a fool and kind of like
giving the big time becks kind of feel while being
very heel like while kind of changing up her persona
since she joined the Vision, which Vision no one else
has evolved Braun and Bronson are often their own thing.
Paul Haym is, nohing Long not even involved in this.
So it's just these four and they have to make
(19:09):
something out of nothing. Okay. Now, of course the match
that we should be caring about would be seeing punk
Seth Wrongs, which they haven't really given us that yet.
We've seen them in the me ring with each other,
in matches with a triple threat, or in something else,
but nothing where they were actually in a match with
each other. Oh, well, was the cage matchic?
Speaker 9 (19:30):
Was it was?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I think it was other than that. No, you know,
I mean it's like Seth Wrongs right now is holding
over the World Heavyweight title. He is not defending it
in favor of this. But of course we know that
the Cody Roads during his title run also did not
have ahead a time where he was not defending the belt,
but he was in some kind of attag match as well.
(19:52):
We know that too. This is what they do. It's
kind of a generic by the numbers storyline that do.
But like I said, let's play the clip here. I'm
gonna run through all of it. We're gonna just break
it down together and the improv and how they try
to work this out. I mean, the crowd already is
(20:13):
into them anyway. They're completely engaged. How show luke crowd.
It doesn't matter to have them all in the ring.
They got all this hype for it, the pop pop,
pop pop pop. But now the real matter is what
are they saying to each other? What are they doing
to really build tension for this match on Saturday?
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Hello everybody, I am AJ's husband.
Speaker 10 (20:52):
And I'm not gonna waste hard time, my time, your
time with an overcompensating long win. Did introductionists to who
she is? I allow it, no explanation needed. It sounds
(21:20):
like they know who I am, and it sounds like
they came to see her and they sure as hell
know her name.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I'm not much of the seeing punk being the softer
kind of character, like we've always preferred the surly, you know,
straight edge, something worse. Who's just too soft?
Speaker 10 (21:46):
Who's the team leader here? Who's the man? Let me know, Becky.
I'll start with you, ladies first. I made a career
in this company, on this microphone, in this ring about
telling people what I thought of them to their face.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
I don't need to talk behind your back. I just
don't know. I'm overwhelmed at what to say about you too.
I mean, look at you, goofs.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So we're gonna try heat with the attire.
Speaker 11 (22:21):
Please come on, you with no style of it punched
you in the face.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
You're idiots.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Come on, we're with a tire now.
Speaker 10 (22:33):
You brag about being the most what famous couple? The
greatest wrestling couple? But you guys can't get on the
same page. Ken, you can't share that spotlight. We had
to listen to two crappy songs. While I have no
(22:53):
problem putting Cult of Personality on the shelf and letting
this young lady light it up.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I mean, everything's a lee no focus, won't see him
points that wrong? What's what?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
You obviously share a wardrobe?
Speaker 10 (23:09):
Unfortunately, But can you share the spotlight or a Saturday?
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Just gonna be real easy for the two of us. No,
are you gonna be a unified front? Are you gonna
be a happily married tag team? Or you're gonna let
your egos get in the way? Egos? Shut up? You
(23:42):
want to bring up egos?
Speaker 11 (23:43):
Seeing punk wants to talk about egos? Point the finger
at us. You are the most selfish human being.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
I have ever met in my entire life.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
What some respect human incarnation of harping. You know what,
Thank you, thank you, thank you for defending my honor.
I appreciate that. But look, no, I'm gonna do something
right now, very selfless.
Speaker 11 (24:21):
It's going to hurt me immensely, and it's gonna make
all of these people here happy. All right, I'm gonna
do something very unselfish, and I don't want to do it,
but I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I'm going to give cm punk credit.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I mean, we're not trying to rewrite storylines, rewrite gimmicks here.
This is a pretty simple storyline. Now, let me go
back to one match and one similar storyline that trump's
this over and over and over again. Wrestle Mania thirty three,
the lead up to Johnsena and Nikubella together versus the
(25:14):
Miss and Maurice. Now, if you remember me talking back
in twenty seventeen about the setup for that match, it
was like, okay, so Johnson and the Mis together, and
we all panned that particular feud, thinking was not gonna
be good. But the truth was that was one of
the best things they had at WrestleMania thirty three. Just saying, so,
let's just play back once again. This was miss and
(25:36):
Maurice dressing up as Johnson and Nickubela, and the way
they set it up like you had a storyline right here,
the mocking of total divas of John Cena at the time,
and this was good stuff and it wasn't that hard
for them to put together. I imagine Miss and Marie's
probably just like, hey, let's go with this idea. And
that was enough just to get Johnson Nicobella all pissed
(25:58):
off for a pretty funsh.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
You wish you would be half the man that my
husband is, but you're not. And you know what your
problem is.
Speaker 12 (26:08):
It's your ego. Oh and you know what they say,
Bigger the ego, smaller the package, John Sina respective, you.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Just made the biggest mistake your life.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Hey, writ you mess with my man, I'm gonna break
your back, break your bitch.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Isn't it crazy?
Speaker 10 (26:41):
I think we've been together for over three years now.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
I am madly in love with the most amazing man
that has other step foot on this earth, and I
couldn't be happier.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
A lot of text and I love you more than
I loved any more in my entire.
Speaker 9 (26:54):
Life, Nikky, I love you.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Me d let you do a toast before we si
before we do.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
These are the house rules.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Rule number eleven of John Cina's House Rules.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
House Rule.
Speaker 13 (27:07):
If you guys are gonna be up late, please text
me or tell them.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Rule number eight of John Cena's House Rules.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Never ask me to advance your career when the cameras
are rolling test this kid.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Replaced Jehan, John, I need to see some type of
commitment that makes me feel and believe like you'll always
be there for.
Speaker 9 (27:27):
Me where I'm at in my life.
Speaker 13 (27:29):
I truly believe that I don't want to be married
and I don't have kids.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
John Sina, will you marry me?
Speaker 9 (27:38):
I'm not going to marry you because I don't love you.
Speaker 14 (27:41):
I only love myself, John love, I only love myself.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Nikki and John's plastic, fabricated lives spits on every real relationship.
I spend hour after hour, day after day with this
woman because I love her.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
You are your best. John Cena is jealous of me.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
He is jealous of my relationship, jealous of all the
talent that I possessed.
Speaker 12 (28:14):
Nicky Bella is jealous of me because I have this
which she'll never have.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
And Nikki Bella will never get one of those because
John Cena only loves himself.
Speaker 13 (28:30):
You too, talk and talk and talk and talk, and
you don't even listen to yourselves because if you did,
you would realize just how ridiculous you sound. Mike is
the guy that screams at the top of his long Grace.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
And I have been the ind couple in the WWE.
Speaker 13 (28:48):
I'm just happy to stand alongside the woman I love
and keep pushing forward doing exactly what I love. And
you want to knock Nicole for not having kids?
Speaker 4 (28:55):
How long y'all been married?
Speaker 13 (28:57):
How many kids?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
You can just crunch the numbers real quick. What you
fire blanks their sport.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Brother. The thing is, there's a lot of truth the
time behind all this, but the animosity was played up
really well. I think Get Johnson to the Mizroy is
good at, you know, kind of playing at odds with
each other. But this storyline to add the women to
it worked really well. They used total divas, they used
(29:24):
talking smack, they used you know, all of it and
incorporated throughout this whole storyline. And look at that, and
like what three minutes we get a storyline has so
much heat, so much animosity, and real barbs to throw
out each other to really stick this home. We finished
(29:46):
the rest of this problem, and then we'll go back
to the problem with him A. J. Seth and Becky.
We'll go back to that.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
There's nothing real about them. Everything they used to elevate
their are daycast See threw jealous hater and John's fabricated.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Spits on every real relationship.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
You're the shit couple and it stops now. And WrestleMania
we are going to destroy you. We're gonna make sure
you want to talk tough.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
WrestleMania is your curtain.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Carugh, total bells, total deals, all the stuff they were
doing at the time, and you know what, the match
culminated in something great. I mean, Wrestle Blues is not
gonna be as big as WrestleMania. They're not trying to
do that. But still that's just one match they did,
and it wasn't that long ago. It was eight years ago.
(30:44):
You could have just copied that storyline in some way,
but they cann't do that. Instead, we get more of this.
Speaker 14 (30:55):
This is the best decision you have ever made in
your entire life, in your personal life, You're gonna hate
(31:28):
me all ye want.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I'm still the world heavyweight champion.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
You're really not doing anything to really go at each other.
Nothing charge you ever.
Speaker 14 (31:38):
Made in your personal life as far as business is concerned.
Inserting her into this is a mistake that you will
regret for the rest of your days.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
No, no, swee cheeks, that mistake was yours, because I
wouldn't even be here if you hadn't used your own
wife as a human shield. That is not you're literally sayingbody.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
Nobody believed you were gonna come back. Okay, okay, nobody
expected you to come back. I didn't expect you to
come back. He didn't expect you to come back. These
people didn't expect you to come back. Okay, what's a being?
Speaker 4 (32:29):
What's a being?
Speaker 7 (32:30):
What? What?
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Ten years? Ten years you were gone? I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
But what I really.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Really can't believe.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Is how irresponsible of you, CM punk. How irresponsible? I mean,
you say it yourself. You don't care about anybody. He
said it.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
You're selfish.
Speaker 6 (32:52):
You say, okay, you only care about three things. Okay,
you care about CM punk, you care about my husband's championship,
and you will never have, and in fairness to you,
you care about aj Lee and aj I read your book,
(33:13):
I have some notes. But last week you talked, you
talked about how you've healed mentally, but how are you
feeling physically? Because in your book, in your book you
talk extensively about the damage that was done t your neck.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
How's that feeling right now?
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
And the thing is, I mean, they are stretching for it.
So now we're gonna get the neck injury. Which if
there was something that was going to be about the
neck injury, we could have had something done physically to
where there was an attack and during the attack that
aj Lee had at Becky Lynch, she could have had
something where she was holding her neck. But we're not
gonna Oh, we can't do that. No, we have to
(33:55):
go and talk it out on storyline. Remember the part
where we had in Naomi that you know, she had
broken into the Billanca Belair's house right in Tennessee. And
I'm like, we couldn't done something where we could have
had that there. But again I'm asking you for too
much here. I mean, of course, the Judith delusional fandom
out there, they're gonna be like, shut up, kick a podcast.
You don't know what you're talking about, get fuck off?
(34:16):
All right, fine, but I'm just picking up a point here.
So she goes on. Then she says the Shaka bitch line, right,
and then more into this, and I'm like, all right,
this has been now what eight minutes of promo time.
We got a couple of shots on attire, a couple
of shots to see him buck being selfish. There's no
(34:36):
heat in eight minutes for this promo, nothing, and this
is fourteen minutes in nothing so far.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Shut up. What you should be worried about.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Is the fact that not even I know what I'm
gonna do next. You're right, gosh, I am.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I am erratic.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, I've been known to make.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
A rash decision.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I'm a Puerto Rican from New Jersey. Sometimes I shank
a chick.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
So we're gonna play the crazy ag thing that we
haven't done in ten years, no reference to it but
prior to this now, can't help it.
Speaker 15 (35:21):
Right, But Seth, you made a plan and you use
your wife as a backup plan, but you cannot plan
for something you can't predict.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Improv This is all im through and they're kind of
like letting the crowd do the thing.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Don't think I can handle a you.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
They're trying to like trying to dig the word to
go to this like, where do you get to the
ending of this here?
Speaker 11 (35:56):
Seth Rollins, multi time world champion, handle you?
Speaker 4 (36:05):
If anybody tell.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Them anything of what they say when they go out here,
they're not being lison.
Speaker 14 (36:13):
Little girl, You're not wrong. I may not be able
to predict you, but your husband I can read him
like a book.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
And let me tell you something.
Speaker 13 (36:41):
You may not know.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Or want to believe about your husband. He has a
nasty habit.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Of leaving.
Speaker 16 (36:58):
When things let him down. So this Saturday, when my
wife rips you into shreds, you better hope to God.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
That he doesn't leave you too. Swift response from a.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
J and then decided to use the crazy part of
ag that was the krikest you had before, which doesn't
make any sense about her coming back from her mental
health journey. Doesn't make any sense on a lady. Thankfully,
(38:03):
I'm not discrediting, I'm not putting her down about that.
I'm just saying, why are we using the crazy gimmick now?
(38:24):
And now speculations is not gonna go out tack ag le.
So there we go, and then they're fighting, and that's
how they're going to end the segment. All right. Look,
I mean there's so much noise going on with this
promo and there's no signal. I mean really, there's no
tension at all building up to the match. So we're
(38:46):
gonna just get matchmatch batch. We get improv, and we
get matchmatch batch. That is the formula right now of
what WW is giving us right now each and every week,
which is why the television shows are not watchable all
the way through. You can catch clips, even the clips
right here twenty one minutes, twenty two minutes right now
(39:07):
that the w you put out here for this particular clip. Yeah,
ay man, one point five million views people watched. I
guess I'd love to know what the watch time is.
But people are watching there. So the disco in front
of of the world say, well, that's where people are
watching their audience, right, Well, what about the the audience
on Netflix? What about that? So I want to go
(39:27):
through some of the things that I bookmarked on X
this week to bring up that I thought would be
really important. Tony Storm actually got quite a bit of
notice that I got from all the posts on X
this week, she spoke with the Saman Pod and I
don't know if I can put this out in Hell yet,
but she says that it's great that w does counter
program AW quote. I think it's great. Come on, fight me.
(39:49):
Be a bit weird of them as a large corporations
just do nothing. It would be a silly business decision
not to. Of course they are. Of course they will.
It's their job. And then when it came to WrestleMania
moving to Saudi Arabia, which we talked about on the
podcast when I did it on Sunday night and I
put it out Monday morning, Bullie Ray on the Bust
(40:10):
Open podcast makes the point about AW should be doing
a large size event for North America while the WrestleMania
is in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 9 (40:18):
The opportunity for Tony Kahan during WrestleMania of twenty twenty
seven to put on a an event in the United
States wrestle Mania esque for the people here, for the
wrestle Coan to piggyback off of, for the independent wrestling
companies to piggyback off of. It's right there in front
(40:42):
of him, man, and.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
We don't need that The thing is that the aw
is need to go and work into anything that has
to evolve competing against w They don't have to do
that because they're very comfortable right now and just being
worthy are at the moment in this certain set up.
They don't really need any of that. That's what's actually
saying themselves. But I agree with it. No need to
(41:07):
go into that route, not at all. But of course
there's gonna be those out there that think, well, AW
should just go ahead and start going into the money
night wars and going into something where they go head
to head. For whatever reason, some bookers always thought let's
go head to head. And listen, that's an Eric Bischoff
thing that happened every time Eric Bishoff has evolved. You
would see let's do head to head in ww A
(41:30):
first word but obviously had a great storyline, and then
wo that made it half possible. But then also it
was different time on Monday nights, and then we move
along on the TNA. Oh, let's move the money nights again,
and Dixie Carter went along with it, and it didn't
work it out either. So as the card has we're
coming up right now this weekend, let's just make sure
(41:52):
we make the point of this is that right off
the bat, your feature matches at Russell Palooza is Cuddy Rose,
Drew mcuitar, John that's also and then John Cena, brock
Lesner and of course Seth Becky, ciampunk A, j Lee
(42:12):
EO Sky simn of a care Women's World Title and
then Oos versus Breaker and read that is your setup
for Russell Blues A five match card. That's how they
always do these big paper views. If it's not a
two night show, they'll just do five matches. And listen,
they just do five matches all the time anyway, right,
just it five matches on a card. Somebody puts on
on a post and makes a point of.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Quote.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
They relegated re Ripley, one of the biggest pressers on
the planet, to be a backstage segment merchant because trivile
H has no idea how to use her when she's
not involved in the world title picture.
Speaker 7 (42:44):
You know.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
There's also one comment I got on my YouTube feed.
I should bring that up here and bring that up
to discussion. And this comes from Stay Woke Folks. Ninety three.
Twenty twenty seven will be the year ww fans should
keep their eyes up, because that is year TKO Holdings
is cashing out, getting out of a professional wrestling business.
(43:04):
Is Saudi Arabia is willing to pony up nearly three
hundred million dollars or media no telling what they are
willing to throw at it to buy it. I mean
it's a possibility, but the broadcast deals have to stay
in play to keep the value of the company. So
TKO will probably have to go through another run of
the broadcast deals, either renewals or another place to go
(43:27):
for Saudi ready to take it on, because the broadcasting
is what the value is of the company right now.
The valuation of the company is based on that. I
speak that clear too, because the value is not on
the talent. The value is on the brand and what
they're able to get from the brand. Thomas Toni Stumm
also talking on this man Man on the podcast, saying
(43:47):
that when I'm done, you'll never see me in any
other company. Where would I go?
Speaker 6 (43:50):
What I do?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
I'm on a long deal for AWWWE is a machine
and I don't fit in with their whole stick. Tony
Savanni takes to create on his program about aw folks
supposedly struggling to have a strong card for All Out
this weekend. And here's what he said.
Speaker 6 (44:08):
So the critics are saying that we weren't going to
have a good card, Well, they said, you with three
of your top guys out, I mean, how can you
possibly carry on?
Speaker 7 (44:17):
Well the answer is have about fourteen top guys.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Well, why don't we do this, Why don't we get
one of those critics on here to have the book
a card for us as we have them book a
card to have them go fuck themselves too. So that's frum.
That's what happened. When podcasts Tony Schivanni and Conrad Thompson
take credit for that, give them the credit on that.
(44:40):
And as for the card that AW is going to
have this weekend, you have Hayman in a page versus
Kyle Fletcher. By way, the predictions I'll give right now
for Russell Palooza, Cody will beat Mcatyre, Seeing It will
beat Lesner, It'll be seeing plu Agle over Seth and
Becky Esky will retain the women's world title, and Breaker
(45:06):
and Read will be the USOS. I don't expect much
doing nothing much more after that, not really. If they
get somebody out there to go and build a pop
somebody returns. We don't know. Maybe I don't know something,
but I don't expect any title changes not on this
pay per view. No, I don't think it's the time.
I don't think they're gonna do it. They're definitely not
(45:29):
much into doing and I'm trying to with the fact
that really don't do a lot of title changes on
pay per views. They like to do them on television.
It's kind of like that, isn't it. It feels like
that anyway. Alfo Announcing reports that ESPN is confirming that
there's a large number of cable subscribers that will not
have to have access to the wrest of any Mania
(45:49):
without additional payment. So major descributors like comcasts in YouTube tv,
which combined for over twenty many subscribers are still on
the outside looking in when it comes to having full
access to the exclusive live programming behind the new ESPN app.
So here's what they has been said that if asked
(46:10):
if ESPN would offer some sort of limited accessibility for
pay TV subscribers that don't currently have access to ESPN
unlimited d premium app tier that will house Russell Bluza
GT Alaska and that call said no that w fans
who get ESPN through distributors like Comcasts, YouTube TV, Cox,
(46:30):
Leing TV and others will in essence need to double
pay for ESPN if they want access to the event,
they have to buy the premium package. They said. The
accessibility issue will not last song to the vast majority
of the distributors whose subscribers aren't currently able to authenticate
into the ESPN Unlimited will be able to do by
a year's end. So timeline quite failable. Will be word
(46:52):
worst case scenario. Because ESPN and Disney have deals expired
with Google and Comcasts as soon as next month, and
a distribute the network distribution partners want to avoid blackouts
with those platforms, the deals need to come to fruition
much sooner than the end of the calendar year. It's
right now, ESPN and some of the audience, you're gonna
have to really check to see if you can have
access to the paper views because rost likely you're not
(47:14):
gonna get unless you have the ESPN app flat out.
ESPN says it's doing its best to communicate the pay
TV subscribers that currently have access to ESPN Limited currently
that is Charter, Verizon, and Direct TV customers. They will
be able to watch wrestl Blues are free of charge
to Saturday. But the Cody says it's also not planning
the breach outreach of the customers that won't have access
(47:35):
to the event, which will be the very same customers
that will be the most upset and the most confused
and awful. Announcing is already repeating what I said earlier
that the hasty were looted for the new app to
align with football season, because that was the plan. The
ESPN was supposed to come out before football season started,
and this the three deal came together much sooner than anticipated.
It's all coming to a head. The network was not
(47:56):
ready to have app exclusive live programming this quickly before
work can finalize distribution deals with the several key partners.
The result there will be a large group of wrestling
fans that are guaranteed to be angry come Saturday evening.
It's not ideal, but ESPN is going to award anyway.
They're just that the hope w fans are willing to
forgive and forget once the distribution deals are shorted up
and everyone can watch as intended so expect this weekend
(48:18):
there will be some people pissed off that they can't
watch Wrestle media unless you listen to seven Fan and
go get a VPN and watch on Netflix. Right, So
keep that in mind. That's gonna be something that is
very interesting. So we're gonna have to keep an eye
on that. But that we're gonna hear some pissed off
people on X No doubt that they're not gonna be
(48:39):
like watch Wrestle Loser because the ESPN and the way
I have a setup might not work well for them
in that respect. Now, they were asked about the broco
Leasure situation. Also, Matt Kenney was asked in that media call.
I'm gonna bring that up as well here that they
didn't talk about brocolessener and that the relationship with the
W is in such where they have creative control. I
(48:59):
think it's important to provide some context here. We're distributors
of the events. They retain creative control, which, by the way,
we're fine with because they have built incredible business for
a long period of time. I don't need to be
opining on what a script should be to W. We're
excited about what they do how they do it and
can't wait for Saturday. So that's what was also said
as well. Other announcements, Nick con Is announcing that in
(49:23):
Italy next year twenty twenty six, another paper view will
be going there. According to Sports Business, there we go
more pay per views going away for North America. Do
you see the ongoing trend here with TKO What they're
doing a larger higher burier to entry for ESPN than
people thought. That's one thing. Then you have the Esprescial
(49:47):
Blues event that you know they're trying to rush this
out there to counterprogram against AW Meanwhile they're patting themselves
against college football this weekend. Not a smart move. And
then the fact that it you have Saudi Arabia, this
can be hosting WrestleMania. And then on top of the
fact that Saudi Arabia will be hosting the Royal Rumbo
(50:08):
in twenty twenty six, there will be a pay per
view in Italy that'll be hosted in twenty twenty six. So,
I mean, I want to see what the fan base thinks.
Are you really happy with all these changes? Is it
good to you? I don't know, we'll find out and
what you think about it? Sooner enough, and I love that.
(50:29):
On the air of Hajwane Show, Tony Storm is also
on promoting for aw All Out, and she was asked
about Mariah May now known as Lake Monroe, and look
at how she handled this in storyline in character.
Speaker 12 (50:43):
You know, we all have relationships like Mariah, haven't we
that end in broken glass, pissed fights, bloody kisses.
Speaker 2 (50:52):
What can I say about Mariah?
Speaker 1 (50:54):
God, We're just She's the single most.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
Evil, cold hearted bitch I've ever met in my life.
Speaker 6 (50:59):
I can honestly say that, and I'm glad that I've
I've banished her.
Speaker 12 (51:03):
I really did compromise her to a permanent end.
Speaker 4 (51:06):
But I'm a big fan of that.
Speaker 6 (51:08):
Blake Monroe.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Okay, okay, do you keep tabs on what she's doing.
Speaker 15 (51:13):
I've seen, I've seen a bit, but I don't like
study it religiously.
Speaker 9 (51:17):
Okay, it's wonderful, wonderful.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
Yes, of course, it's positive she's gone.
Speaker 10 (51:24):
Here anymore.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
So I actually like this. You're standing character for that again.
These are the things I really enjoy altogether. And one
of the comment being put out there earlier today where
somebody was competing about the fact of one of the
major voices to the juveile, delusional fandom of my fellow
podcast Wrestling Brethren. I've brought up before. I don't mention
my name, but there was a comment that was put
(51:48):
out there. He did respond to it, quote unquote, considering
all I see is the company about AW that you post,
and not the same about complaning about the W Your
point is right, but you're always so skewed towards AW
and how they should die off. I can't trust if
you actually said this is from a previous comment from before,
(52:09):
and then he writes that says, considering all you see, quote,
I've spent weeks complaining about the current product, including the
narrative you're trying to push that. I don't say the
same thing about being predictable sounding your kids example of
Cody rose dermacatarre here's a clue. If you've watched you
think content you're thinking I am hating AW will very
quickly disappear. There is the fabrication only pushed by their
(52:31):
fan base because they don't know what real criticism looks like.
So again, even the biggest loyalists of W that are
out there, you know they have to defend they're trying
to defend the inferior improv and matchmatch batch. I'm really
surprised there were so many people now in the wrestling
(52:54):
ether here that might not listen to this program. Maybe
listen to other programs out there, but maybe you catch
this program once in a while. And I'm still amazed
that there's all this animosity out there towards everybody else,
bashing at aw, bashing in other companies, you know, enjoying
the fact that Triple A you have the change of
titles now where eventually in the Talio become random the Arannas,
(53:16):
and now Dominic is a new Triple A Mega champion.
We're not talking much about that. We're not talking about
much about what TNA now is gonna be doing a
supposed to invasion angle with an XT because during the
NXT Homecoming, which got seven hundred thirty thousand viewers for CW,
a good pop for a rating for a week, and
you know, they brought some of the mystique back step
(53:40):
Lord Stephen Regel or William Regal. Of course he has
to be called over there. He gets to say war games,
right and stuff like that. The thing is is that
you know you have TENA stars fainting outrage in order
to create an invasion. Not an invasion on television, No, no,
gonna do it on social media. It's everything's backwards and
(54:03):
the other way around. But I think I've done a
pretty good job now as I finished the show off tonight,
of identifying exactly what w is. It's two things right now,
so say it with me. It's inferior improv and match
(54:25):
match Max. Now, as for all out came man out
of page, We'll retain the world title. I'll take Darbylan
on the coffin match. I'll take Tony Truman, retain the winning.
Speaker 4 (54:37):
The world title.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
R City's the name, will retain the media title. I'll
take FDR over COVID Cage a little bit like that.
Come back with another rest of the podcast. For all
those paper views, we'll do a poster right here, because wrestling,
he needs us
Speaker 5 (55:00):
Pay pay, pay pay
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