Hang 'Em High! Adam Page Ends Death Riders' Reign at All In: Texas (ep.941)

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Because wrestling leaves us it's Saturday. There's a whole lot
of pay per views going cover which I only did
really watch one, well one pay per view up against

(00:54):
another pay per view. And then we had Saturday Nights
to Man event coming to you from Atlanta, Georgia, all
in Texas, from Global Life Field in Arlington, Texas, and
from Center Stage where was it at today? The Great
American Match was also out of the today. I think
it was it center Stage. I forget. I gotta go
and take a look. But yes, we had all that

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to go on today. Here on the program, We're going
to go through all that right here and talk about
it now. I did not watch NXT's Great American Bash,
did not catch it. It was at center stage, That's
what I thought. Okay, and a couple of matches were
set up. I didn't get to go through everything on it,
but we'll talk about that. And there were a couple
of things that were set up for Slammiversary which comes

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up next week. And there's a lot to talk about
when it comes to All In because a lot happened tonight,
very newsworthy, lots of storytelling, lots to go and get
into and cover. But we'll get into the WWE stuff
first with an XT. First of all five matches on
Great American Bash, Javon Evans or Jasper Troy soul Ruka

(01:56):
retains the Women's North American title over is He Day
aim ethan Page of Ricky Saints in a false Anywhere
match for the North American title. So another retain. They
were all retaining, okay, Oh, but Femi retains in the
NXT title over Yoshiki and Amura. Nothing that worthy, real
need to happen this. Jordan Grace, Blake Monroe, the New

(02:20):
Tag Team Together beat Federal Influence in their first run together.
As the main event tells you everything, and we also
know that it was Trick Williams and Mike Santana Joe
Henry to do a contract signing to set things up
for Slimmi Versity next week for the World Heavyweight title

(02:42):
of the Impact World Championship. That's gonna be set up.
So we got that go and talk about next week,
and there are a lot of going to say about
that because we got to see what's going to become
of the TNA since the change of TNA. Now we're
at this point where roughly eighteen months in, we're up
to Slam Aversary and now, well, I'm weary about what

(03:03):
happens now and how much this nxt W partnership takes
over this company. As we made very clear, Carlos Siva
on the Aria Hawane Show made it clear that they
got the Creative Artists Agency CAAA representing TNA now to
get them a broadcast deal within sixty to ninety days.

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So the deal with the partnership and the association with
W makes it possible for TEENA to going to move
out of Access TV to another broadcast platform. That's the
biggest thing that we're getting out of all this, But
at what cost to Teena's identity, legacy and reputation, Because
if it's just going to be another NXT clone and

(03:45):
it's going to be allowed to be booked by w
and NXT folks at the highest level, which is what
they're about to going to do right now with Jordan
Grace possibly winning the Knockout title once again on the
same thing for Trick Williams retaining the Impact World I
mean the NXT Jesus Band, the TNA World Have Weight title. God,

(04:09):
why don't I keep the Impact TNA World have Avoid
title and the TNA Knockouts Championship that can all change
up next week and be held by NXT superstars. Very
well happened, But anyway, I didn't get too much out
of what was great American Bash. But I don't know
who's watching that show when you have all in, I

(04:30):
don't know there was that much to be said. I mean,
did you really take a lot of people away from
doing that? Now? I did see there was quite a
bit of stuff being put up on Twitter about both shows,
but like for the most part, there was a lot
being brought up about TNA between about AADW. For the
most part, aw got the most talk of everything here,

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So that's part of everything here. And you know, when
I look at Saturday Next Minutevent tonight, I feel like
it's just an after thought. It's like NBC doesn't mind
running Saturday Night's ben event because it's not for the show.
It's for the commercials that can run in the show,
because they run a lot on their show. When they
do this, it's like they didn't even care when the

(05:14):
commercials come in. It's not even like well timed. It's
just like NBC's going to just put as many possible
commercials as possible. This is a live program, but it's
so tightly wrapped up as they're doing it, it doesn't
feel much like a live show at all. It sounds
like it's taped the way it's set up. And then
more everything else. Goldberg officially retired, but Goldberg made his

(05:40):
retirement and he got cut off. It was abrupt the
way it went, But there you go. And at Saturday
Nights to an Event tonight. We did get a couple
of things that happened off the bat. We'll talk about
that as well real quick. So off the bat, now
we have what looks like gonna be a big problem

(06:01):
right now when it comes to Seth throngs Inainst trio,
because now if he is legitimately hurt, which I looked
several times at the injury, the supposed injury, I have
seen him buckle like that before. Not well, I guess,
on that move, but he also seemed to do it
when he does it to when he tries to do

(06:22):
the the move off the top rope and he goes backwards,
you know, summersault. I've seen him do that movie a
million times and it's very rare. Does he really get
hurt on that? I'm trying to think about when he
did get hurt before on the knee. It was the
right kne that buckled it supposedly, but I didn't see
him buckling at all, and I'm not sure if there
was any real serious injury behind it. But they said

(06:45):
that it had to go and make a change in
the match and give La Knight the win. So my
thing is, I don't know what they're gonna do with that,
But like I said, they decided going to have Seth
get hurt done on what that means the money to
make briefcase and what that does, I don't know. And
there was talk about seth Ron's and Roman Reigns taking

(07:08):
on each other in a program. We don't know what
that's gonna happen either, but okay, either which way, Drew
mcatire is now paired up with Logan Paul and on
Friday Nights Back Down, jelly Roll the country artist is
now embedded into a storyline where he's gonna be in

(07:28):
a featured tag team match paired up with Randy Orton
against Drew Mcatarian Logan Paul, Which, yeah, okay, I saw
the you know what they did with Logan Paul and
jelly Roll. Okay, fine, but jelly Roll just like that
is just thrown in and it's not as if people
don't know who it is. Okay, For jelly Roll's sake,

(07:50):
I must say. I mean, right now doesn't have an
album himself that he's pushing out, but he has a
lot of songs right now where he is crossing over
Alex Warren and I forget if he's worked a song with
Chaboozie right now, but like he's got a couple of
songs out there where he is working it. There's another
do what he's with I Forget Now. There's a couple
of songs he got either which way. That's fine, but

(08:12):
it's like, all right, he's in this mix because he
wants to be. I mean, it's one of those things
where Okay, we're gonna bring him in and now he's
gonna get a chance to go and play wrestler. Now
they've been saying that he has been training for a
few weeks. Okay, I'm not sure we're going to think
about what he's gonna be doing so far, but yeah,

(08:34):
Jilly Rowl is a big deal right now. He's working
with one of the biggest artists right now in pop,
Alex Warren, with a song called Bloodline that's out there
right now. He's on a song with Jesse Murph called
Wow Ones that that was a song that came out
a while back. But yeah, he's rolling along right now.

(08:54):
He's got a pretty good following right now, and he's
a big deal national. I mean, he's become a crossover
artist for himself, which is good. That's fine. You had
the shortest kind of set up for Jimmy Usso to
go up after the US title that has been won
by solo so CoA. They had a gun set up
a match for that show as well, and Sols goes

(09:16):
out with his bloodline and we had gone through Goldberg
that was gonna be set up. No, just even true
on commentary, not this time, Randy Orton, Drew mc guitar.
We've probably seen these guys before, but you have Jilly Roland,
Logan Paul and respective ring sides. You get the point
where Logan Paul gets into the apron to the Strake, Orton,

(09:42):
m McIntyre hit the Claymore kick, Logan Paul and Jolly
Roll start going face to face at ringside. That's to
get the cameras out there so we can get all
these paparazzi types and all these gossip magazines whatever to
go ahead and talk about it and put out some
roll stuff about that. Jilly Roll tries to push Logan

(10:04):
Paul again, shoves him downs fired up. Then you get
mcatire also having a claim wore on Jilly Roll that
Jelly Roll didn't really take the Claymore that well the
way he kind of pushed back on it. Whatever. But
Randy Orton wins post match, you get the Claymore kick
onto Jelly Roll and then they set up a match

(10:26):
where they're gonna have the tag team match as SummerSlam
of all places. I mean, you tell me what we're
doing here, Logan Paul not in a regular storyline. We're
just gonna put him into this thing right now with
drw Mcatire, Randy Orton and Jelly Roll, just because Logan
Paul needs to have someplace to go in the in

(10:46):
the celebrity wing. We're not moving along in anything else.
But I guess it's just what's required of him. I
guess they did try to do some things and set
up for Evolution tomorrow. I don't know if I'm gonna
do a push about it, take it about it, but
I mean, I guess up we'll watch and then I
guess we could talk about it. I don't think we're
gonna give much of it because it just feels more
like an exhibition the fact that he brought this back here.

(11:10):
I mean, they're still trying to do some things in
the very little bit amount of time that they're doing
to set up a little bit of heat for all
the matches tomorrow. You see EO. Sky and We Ripley
being shown at ringside. Naomi J. Cargill also at each other,
getting a couple of getting a little bit physical with
each other. Whatever he'll pull apart beyond Cabalaia is now

(11:36):
back and she's going to be a special guest referee
to add a little something to it. They're trying to
make a big deal about Goldber coming back and the
fact he was wrestling in Atlanta once again, making the
point of the focus of the fact that he won
his World Heavyweight title in WHW July sixth, nineteen ninety
eight against Hollywood Hook Hogan in the Georgia Dome. They

(11:58):
didn't make a point of that, but we had it
in the Georgia Dome that night on Night show and
you know, save Marina a little bit smaller than that.
But it's okay, you didn't. I don't think they even
sold it out, for what I heard from when I
heard it, didn't even sell it out. Amazing. So then
Jimmy usis, let's go and nobody at the Saturday night

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Spin events that this is the fourth one I think
we've forgotten so far, or third one. Now, Nothing's happened,
no title changes, know nothing, It's just kind of there.
I'll be extremely surprised they break three million viewers. I
think they will not do it again once again. They
will not break three million viewers. Two point five maybe
at the most. I mean, it's summertime, and you know

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what's the most interesting thing is that there's no other
sports to go up against them. What WNBA and Major
League Baseball maybe, I don't know, there's not much else.
It's a very dead time right now. If you want
to go ahead and really put some things out there
and get people interested in the product, well this is
the time you here to do it. You have no one,
there's no other sports to watch, so like you could

(13:02):
do something what we want to do. Right in the match,
what Jacobato does come out to go into taxils, the
CoA reaches out in the blood line. But that's postmatch,
so Jacob solo, we're gonna have each other's going to
deal with. They will set theming up with Summer Slam
for most likely for that, it's still three weeks away.

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That's the other thing too, that's really boggling the mind.
Three weeks away from summer sooner they got to get
and fill up two nights of shows. I don't know
how they're gonna do it. With the wrestle text real quick,
I wanted to bring up a couple of things before
you can move along. Saturday X Men event still had
under one thousand tickets left to sell. Cheapest ticket available
in Atlanta fifty six dollars twenty five cents. Wow, that's crazy.

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And they're all upper deck way in the back. That's wild.
All in Texas from all intensive purposes did break twenty
five thousand tickets distributed, and they might have had more
coming in at the very last minute, but that was
the plan. Twenty five thousand plus were at the show

(14:09):
tonight and it looked really good over there by the way,
more or less to sell out for center stage for
Great American Bash as for SummerSlam. Right now, the current
is set up for the show on Saturday forty five,
one twenty four, still about five thousand tickets left to sell.
That's today, and then for Sunday. They still got about

(14:31):
a little underd four thousand tickets for the next day.
But yeah, they've already gotten about forty thousand seats and
thirty nine thousand seats, thirty nine thousand for Saturday, forty
thousand for Sunday. That's it. There's still a lot left
to go and take up if they want to go
and get to that. And at the moment, Summiversary still
has tickets left. Currently they're just short of four thousand,

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but they got up another five hundred or so tickets
left to gun and sell, and that's what earlier today
an evolution. As of yesterday, they still have several hundred
seats left to go and sell. But it looks like
they're gonna pre get close enough to get to a
sellout or stay from arena. But by the way, the
current set up seventy three hundred for the arena, not

(15:15):
the full set up of fifteen thousand, but you know
the kind of the way they're setting up right.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Rollins, Oh, there's that flight centa s Fringbrd sent on
by Rollins and saw last to speak, they have a
weakness knee. We saw set favor of the knee this
past Monday, may have tweaked it again and l l
a night with an opportunity.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Rollin's into the corner of the official aary checks they're
watching the end of the La Knight seth Wrongs match
right here, and the two moves he does backwards and
forwards off the ropes to check, and I'm just looking
real quick to come and see there's anything you can
get from the indication of about when this happened, if
where Hayman is when he looks at it. But here

(15:56):
we go, we're looking at it right now where rollins
the move going forward, gun goes back towards Let's see
if Paul Himan has any reaction here at all.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
We saw Seth faith this past Monday, so in l
a night with an opportunity, all.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Normal facial features. We don't see an X. We don't
see anything like that at all. And as you're going along,
Seth is saying he's got he needs some help in here.
But I mother believed that I don't know this was
a if this was actually a legitimate injury, I don't know.

(16:36):
I mean, it was a lot that was going on.
I mean, I saw where l A Knight grabbed the
same knee. We're just trying to bring him up for
a for a slam. But it didn't make much of
a difference. The ringside doctor now is over and there
was nothing there made me think it was something. It
didn't look like it was any kind of buckle for
what it looks like but let's see what happened when

(16:58):
they do the the match, so they the referee going
over to La Night earlier this week, they're still talking.
I guess if it was serious, I don't know if
they would have finished the match as they did. But
here it comes Seth. They finished the match right, and

(17:21):
then I said like they finished at the end of
the match bf T and then the quick pin. You know.
I don't know if they just didn't have that much
time in the match for itself or it was anything else.
But like when I look right here at the end
of the match, I look at where Seth Wrongs comes up.
I don't see him grimsey and pain necessarily, but he

(17:42):
gets up pobbly back in the car, and I don't
think it's gym. I don't think it was legit at all.
When it looks like it, it doesn't feel like it
is to me. So but they're trying to say it's legitimate.
They want to sell that out there. We'll find out,
but it doesn't look like it is to me at all.
And they show that Ellie Knight wasn't happy with the wind.
But there's something where they they can't try to say

(18:04):
it was, but I don't think it was him blowing
out his knee after Alliance Sult. I don't know, and
that would have been really true if we did that. Anyway, now,
rest of you actually makes a point about the fact
that there was a lion salt that he had on
Jenner Mahall last year January twenty four. That was what

(18:26):
injured his knee and took him out of WrestleMania. So
we don't know. I mean, that's the thing that it
could be the same knee, and it could be the
same kind of thing where but he sold that knee
injury before, and I don't know if it's that or not.
I don't know if it's going to be that. I
don't feel that. Well, we'll find out. We'll see everybody
kind of talks about that and see what they're gonnay
about it. Anyway, Well, I'll let everybody kind of just move

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along and see what happens on Monday and see if
seth Wrong's actually comes out. We'll figure it out, because
it does. It makes a lot of plans changes where
I guess money the bank that briefcase doesn't mean anything
right now, and I don't know what they're going to
do with it. And what that group's gonna be like,
is that Paul just gonna go out with bron Breaker
and Bronson Reid. I don't know. I'm not necessarily so
excited about this either, but they got this uninteresting storyline,

(19:14):
uninteresting everything. Again, they're just piling on content just to
have to get it done, and we need they're going
to do something just kinda set things up. It's like
everything's just being thrown together, thrown together, and I'm telling
you I probably have to go and talk about the
fact that I feel like it's a comparison to what
Kevin Nash did when he was in ww in ninety eight,

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when there was that time he was the head of
the booking committee and he was handling business. And I'm
telling you, I feel like Triple H Kevin Nash are
on the same cloth the Click booking because remember Kevin Nash,
Triple H, Shaw, Michaels all part of the Click and
who knows they Paul had the same mindset on how
they do things that the booking style they're doing is

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what wrestlers would do and those particular rassers would do
because they're not really that adept at booking anybody but themselves.
I don't know what we just it's And the other
thing two is that Kevin Nash was an active wrestler
so all the time when he did it, which is
the other interesting thing. But these two guys ran now
tri relation, Shawn Michaels are not. I don't know. I

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don't know what to think about this till far. So
as for AW and Ring of Honor, I didn't even
bring up to a Supercard of Honor, but that actually
happened yesterday and I didn't get a chance to go
and catch it. But for what it was worth, they
ran an Eastports Stadium Arlington, Texas, which is where they
have the they had a residency of Collision last year.

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And in that four pre show matches about what the
von Erics are now working actively in Ring of Honor,
which is really cool. That's nicely going to see that.
And also the fact that Kevin doarn Eric is now
in a Legends deal with AW. You know, talk about
somebody that you want to go and see that will
do some good in training, done a very good job
with Ross and Marshall. So let's go see what they

(21:02):
do with that. So of the featured matches I'll bring
up in this pure rescuing rules match ring Wanter Pureer Championship.
Lee Moriarty beat a Blue Panther. Sons of Texas retained
their Ring of Water World Tag team titles over the Infantry,
Seawan Deane and Carly Bravo. Nick Wayne retained the Ring

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of Honor World Television Championship. Minna Shirakawa won a women's
wildcard match a four way from the Women's World Television Championship,
and Athena retained her ring on her Women's world title.
And Benito over cons Kate Takeshta in a thirty minute
match for the wan World Championship, Bendita retaining as well.

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So no changes to the card. They're pretty interesting in
all that. But then the next night again all in
tonight three pre show matches. But what we got more
importantly was the World's trios titles. To start off tonight,
Death Writers. They wanted to make the point that Death

(22:08):
Writers not doing well. They wanted to go and take
those belts off of the ops. So Shabata Hobbs, Samoa Joe.
They retain of everything else that went on with that,
The Casino Gauntlet matches were very interesting with a lot
of the stars that they had featured in the matches

(22:29):
as well, and within that, MGF featured in the start
of the match with Mark Brisco, good commentary with MVP
going on throughout the whole match. That was cool. And
the one thing was MJF getting the win over Roder
Strong and getting the sneak up pen to win the match.

(22:53):
Very good stuff overall. Anyways, to get it all set
up and MGF now finally what he said once again,
he was gonna give himself to that belt. And I'll
tell you, I don't get tired of him screwing people
over to when the win matches like this. Like to
see him come in the Casino Goblet match, be out
of the match for a while, getting knocked out of
the ring, come back in and sneak a pin. I

(23:15):
love that shit. And I think MJF is so in
tune with his character. I don't care if he cheats
to win. I think that's the part that we want
to see from It's like that's part of who it is,
that's the modus upperandi MGF. This shtick does not get old.
I don't get tired of him doing this over and over.
I mean, if you're a fan and you want you're

(23:37):
wanting to see the baby Faces win, you don't want
to see him, you couldn't do this. But you know what
hurts yet is pretty strong right now with retaining the
tag team belts and MGF now holding that contract. That's
pretty good stuff right there. Pretty good stuff. Very interesting tonight.

(23:58):
The AWT and T title a very unfortunate thing they're
gonna hear from Adam Cole tonight. You know, it just
sounds like, without knowing what it is that happened to him,
he's had quite a few injuries to go in overcoming
you know what, he's just not that tall guy and
not that he's just for a guy at his height
and his size, you know, sometimes you're just not gonna

(24:21):
have the resilience to be able to go and go
out there for all those years working on the card
and then not having that same frequency now and being
away for a while, having some issues when it comes
to injury, and then coming back once again, which was great. Listen,
he came back from a very long term injury, comes

(24:41):
back once again only to go and get hurt again.
And the fact that you know, he feels like there
he might have already wrestled this last match, which is
very tragic. It's unfortunate for him, and you could tell
the emotion was with him and very well set in
his para gone cohorts were there with him as he

(25:03):
was walking back backstage. So I don't know what's gonna
have to Adam Cole, but it's like it you can
just tell that this was pretty serious and if he
can't wrestle again like again, his life as lifehood he
really enjoys it. That sucks for him, man, But I mean, listen,

(25:24):
he has had a great career for all the years
he's wrestled. He really has gone a long way when
it comes to what he's done. So you know that's
I don't know how much he had left the good
improve he worked in all the major companies. The fact
that that they left him at NXT and Adam Cole
never got to move the that main roster, that'll be

(25:45):
the one thing to be something that's like okay of
that whole undisputed era. Yeah, they didn't stay around long
enough for it. But Adam Cole never being considered to
go up there except to be a manager of all things.
I mean, that kind of sucks, man, But I hope
that Adam Cole would consider doing something like a managerial
role if he could. Like I know that's not the

(26:05):
step that he would want to go and do, but
like at some point if he wants to still be
somewhat active in the business. The guy's a talker. Let
him go out in there and talk if he can,
if he can help work somebody else up as a manager.
I mean, I would love they're going to see that,
but I don't know if there will be something he
will do. But if we don't see him for a while,
we just hope they're going to see him back. And
you know, whatever he has to go and do to

(26:25):
get either your recovery or if there's just a permanent
thing where he can't make it back of the ring,
you know, he leaves behind a great legacy of work
he's done, winning lots of titles, including some in AW
so there's all that might not be able to go
and claim the world titles in AW or W, but

(26:48):
at least you know he's gotten significant titles and drops
the TNT title tonight, so he finishes up as a
champion at the least, which is sectually really cool. But
then the decision to go ahead in the Knights match,
where I would have thought Count Fletcher would have been
a shoe into gonna be T and T champion, But no,

(27:10):
you're not pulling that trigger on him yet.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Do you go?

Speaker 1 (27:13):
See you former champion semi guitar, former T and T
champion at Dustin Rhodes, who just signed a new six
year deal more or less like a Legends deal. He amazingly,
you know, after all these years he gets the upset win.
Quite a story for him, But yeah, he did sign

(27:33):
a deal, so like for the fact to see him
here as a champion nothing more than a transitional champion.
I don't see him holding onto this belt for a
long time. But the T and T title, they not
been afraid to go ahead and let other stars hold
that belt, Christian Cage and Cope or examples. So for
them to go ahead and have an older veteran coming

(27:54):
in to go and hold that belt not surprising to me.
But who becomes a next opponent for him to go
and take on. It'll be another talent that comes into
play that a younger talent is gonna get a chance
to go and get that belt. I don't know what
they're gonna do with that, but it's very interesting to
see what they're gonna do. A lot of good matches
in it. Tonight, Swore Strickland will Ospray. Great match tonight

(28:19):
with proper stipulations. The EVB titles on the line for
the Young Bucks, Asprey and Strickland would lose a chance
to go to the world title for one year if
they lost. On their end. They made a little bit
of animosity with Ospray and Strickland because well, Osprey decided

(28:40):
go to make the deal without Shane's without uh Swar
Strickland being part of it. They made that part clear.
But Ospray and Strickland get the win. Strong match, Young
Bucks looking great in this. I mean for the fact
that you know, they really the fact that there's been

(29:01):
little tag team chemistry with Osprey and striggling to be
together in this, but hell of a match with these too.
It was really the teams really put out a really
great match. A lot of they put into the match.
For anybody that thought Athena was not gonna be involved
in all in Texas because she was not booked in
a match. She was not promoted. Well, she was in
the Casino Gotlin match later on the night, and she'd

(29:23):
beats Mina Sure, a cow of all people for the
a W Women's World title. Take it like that for
the Ring of Honors perspective. Okay, there you go, the
new women's World champion, the intern Women's World champion being
beat by the Ring of Honor women's World champion. I
don't think that, And so I guess what Athena now

(29:44):
goes after the women's world title, which will be continued
to be held on to by timeless Tony Storm. But
we'll talk about that in a minute. Hert syndicate with
jets Bey in the patriarchy, the real importance of the
match hurt Segament wins, and then the patriarchy turns on
Christian Cage. So Nick Wayne, already having the issues with

(30:06):
Christian Cage and his control, well too much for Nick
Wayne gonna deal with. So it's done. Patriarchy no longer
needs the services of Christian Cage. About ready gonna give
a concerto, so signal cope he's coming out. And they
did not give us the reunion right away? Smart And

(30:28):
also to go ahead and and the thing was what
was running across my mind was that if Cope was
gonna come out to help Christian Cage. I just saw
the other day the go f Yourself lined from Christian Cage.
I'm like, all right, yeah, they're not gonna They can't
just do this right here, can't. I mean, cop just
can't be that gullible. But did it right? So Christian

(30:49):
Cage helps it is helped by Cope, but go find
Yourself and you will see a tease of that heading
up to what I don't know not I guess forbidden Door. Right,
so Toronto they can put those two back together. What'll

(31:10):
be interesting is what the fleshed out storylines between those
two after all that's gone on with them in AW
That's very interesting. And the Seacrestian Cage make the turn
from heel back to face. I guess that'll be interesting
to go and see what they do. Tony Storm Mercedes
Wine was a great match. Wow, really put all out there.

(31:32):
I was surprised to see Mercedes Wnet take her first
pinfall in AW or where you mutter whatever it is,
and they did it. So everything that was talked about
this weekend, when it comes to various people on social
media the juveitial delusional fandom. First of all, you have
one of the podcasters I usually go ahead and bring
up something about and of course one of those you know,

(31:54):
designated dirt sheet riders that are in their own personal
graduate each other, their own personal fight just about just
a lot of heavy mouth breathing on Twitter or x
And I'm like, it was really stupid to see all
this kind of back and forth talk between them, and

(32:17):
to me, it felt like there was more being said
about what was happening with them before anything else. Oh.
I was like, Okay, I don't know. I just thought
that when I look at what they're doing, man, it's
like they're so caught up on the fact that they

(32:39):
need to go and get so close to the talent
and to the industry, that there's some kind of value
for them to be close into the after parties, and
they'd be in the inner circle of the wrestling business.
I could care less. They never cared about getting free
tickets or getting some kind of access, press access, things

(32:59):
like that. And the one thing that we're all finding
over was creative control of Mercedes Bonet, which all right,
people want to go talk about that Mercedes Bonet has
creative control in aw well that aforemntu of creative control
is not there if she just took a loss to

(33:19):
Tony Storm, unless she decided to go do that. But
the thing is pretty gonna remember his creative control, and
what Hulk Hogan would do with his creative control is
I mean, he would absolutely change the outcome of matches
to make sure that even at the very last minute
when he's supposed to be going losing a match, he's like,

(33:42):
that's not gonna work for me, brother. That was the
point is that Hulk Hogan, yeah, had control of the
lightness of his character and that whatever he wanted, even
up to the last minute, he might have to be
talked into being booked in something that he wanted to do,
But if it was gonna be a loss or a
penfa or whatever it was, he wasn't going to just

(34:04):
do that, and he would hold up proceedings like to
become the third member of the nWo to get that
up and going. It took to the last day in
Dayton's Daytona Beach at Bash into Beach ninety six friends
of finally say yes, But it was always where polk

(34:28):
Cogan never had anybody else tell him what he could do,
recommendations sure. Plus the idea of the creative control is
the fact that they're trying to say that, oh, well,
that Mercedes my name using her creative control to bury
the other talent. I don't see that. I don't The

(34:57):
last two matches were very good. Okata and Omega winna
take all match, getting a new unified champion. Yeah, the
gun buying all those boats was the right thing to do.
I got a problem with it. Don Kallas is going
to commentary also getting out there and getting involved. Great
to see gr back on the commentary again for a
match like this and the other one, and Omega's the

(35:20):
verticulitis being put into focus and that would be enough
for And that was really why they didn't have like
another drag out match like it would have had in
New Japan, Like this is a match that had real
storyline implications. And that's the best part I liked about
this too, is like the storyline that was given Okata
winning this was, you know, the right move. I thought,

(35:41):
if they were gonna go and put a champion together
of all this, Omega coming back from dever articulatis and
not being fully one hundred percent. They played that up,
Don Klas and being part of this making the point
of the injury being the focus of course as a
good heal. Yeah, that match worked out well, but thirty
minutes a half of that match, and it worked out

(36:01):
really well with a good storyline, good storytelling in the
ring and Hangman Adam Page over John Moxley and a
Texas Death Maatch. Fourth match for Hangman Adam Page and
Texas Death Batches gets to win a lot of plunder
where Death Riders of course come out well lost Pray

(36:22):
tries to help out but then he gets himself taken
with a pile driver that takes him out of the match.
He gets stretched out, but then Darby on Brian Danielson
make returns. Here we go and that's enough. Go ahead
and get everything back into full circle with the Death

(36:43):
Riders and get them out so to finish off the
death Writer storyline. I hope that's what they're doing right now.
And John Moxley disbands the group. I mean, we don't
need Blackpool Combat Club, we don't need Death Riders. Let's
do something else with this group. But this death throughout
a shortlane. I hope is closed. I hope they finish

(37:03):
it up now, because there was a good while the
setup and the domination that they had was up until
they had a gun face Cope and FTR. I was
not much into this, like it was just what they
were doing with the storyline and holding on the belt

(37:24):
in the briefcase for all this time it was a
good half of that two hundred and seventy three day
reign of John Mox, I just did not care about
the stuff. Would swerve an Osprey and what they did
now with Adam Page, Yeah it works, and you know
test with Adam Hangman, Adam Page once again world champion

(37:45):
and AW And I still think about the fact that,
you know, I never thought Adam Page, I never saw
him as main event or world champion material somewhat ten
twelve years ago and Ring of Honor. I never thought
that be of him. But man, when you want to
talk about certain stars you've brought into AW and what

(38:06):
they've done to really build them up and done the
development of bringing them up to a world titled caliber,
Adam Paige is one of those guys. Absolutely. Swarre Strickland
I think is also in that same ring. The get
was really the booking that Tony Kahn did to get
those guys over where. I never saw Adam Page going
to W anytime. And Swarre Strickland I've talked about before.

(38:30):
They just kind of helped held them out. He was
put to a ceiling. I don't understand why, but at
the moment, AW I feel like it is able to
go ahead and develop stars. I mean, there's gonna be
talent out there that that W doesn't see for whatever reason.
But AW is able to go ahead and has been
able to successfully do storylines and build stars up to

(38:52):
another level, up to the main event level. And it's
not like they're doing it from a pure rookie level,
but if they have somebody that just has some good
potential out there and could make it up to that
upper level, that's what they did. And now part of
it is too, is that you know, Adam Paige didn't
have the Young Bucks that associations he was with for
a while going on in New Japan and then coming

(39:15):
back in when the company first started up. That really
did help out Adam Page is that association. But something
about where he's gone to today and the matches he's had.
He's done quite a career for himself now in that company.
He is a standout man inventor, no doubt about it.
Where Strickling feels like that, Well Off Spray feels like

(39:37):
that because I think with will of Spray getting him
to a certain level of storylines to get him into
a certain place. I'll take you like this too when
I look at the free agency brought in and where
they are now. When you think about well Off Spray
and where they've gone with him, it's not under the
world title, but they've got him into a lot of
places where they've got him really close in the national

(39:58):
title he won, and putting on a lot of main
event storylines. Okada now unified champion, was kind of champion,
but like the setup you had the match with Omega
that was a blockbuster. It was great for Cities win
a right now has been very strong and I really
enjoyed the Tony Storm or Cities when a interaction with
each other. It was all good stuff. And the one

(40:20):
thing I can say about Adew as well is that
we're getting storytelling. You might not like Tony Khn's booking,
you might not like how they do things but you
know what AW storytelling is as close to I as
I could recognize and identify as pro wrestling storytelling that
I've seen all my life. Like what AW does right now,
storytelling in the ring, the matches, they give us, the
stars we get. It's a typical of the pro wrestling

(40:44):
I've grew up with in just about any promotion I've watched.
WWE used to do that too, and now they don't.
But I think it's a corporate and it's actually caused
that to happen. But they're not storytelling like all these
other companies do right now. AW does a pretty good
job of that, and that's all I'm gonna say about that.
That's where we're gonna sit there to send things up
and go forward. Let's look at what we do clickbooking.
We talk about Teenage Slimiversary to set that up and

(41:05):
see where they're gonna go with that coming up next week,
ask the plan. I'll let you know if I decided
to go and do anything when it comes to evolution,
I'll probably do a post show on it. I mean,
I don't see why I couldn't do like We'll we
go fifteen.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Twenty twenty five minutes whatever, we'll see what happens, something
event will happen, something newsworthy, don't worthy, I hope so.
But anyway, we'll probably do a post show tomorrow and
then we'll do another show Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
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