A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE or RAW REVIEW (Wrestling Soup 10.7.25)

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
We live in a world where Kevin Nash isn't getting
his royalty checks right anymore. I guess I hope he's okay.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I mean, he's only got millions of dollars.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Well he you know, I felt bad, and it was
making the rounds on different news sites. I'm like, oh, wow,
this is important. Apparently on his show, you know, he
said I was talking with Sean waltonon this week and
we had our update. We both got our royalty checks.
And I called him and he's laughing on the other
side of the phone and he goes, obviously, you got

(00:39):
your royalty check. And I said, holy fuck. I said
the last one was good and this one was rotten.
I mean it was half. But hey, you know, what
are you going to do. When I was making huge
money in my royalties, it was broken down. It would
say nWo T shirts, nWo women T shirts. Now it

(01:00):
says nWo intellectual property, and there's just a number. It's
going to look like a forensic accounting and I'll fucking
sue them, And I mean, that's just the way it goes.
And it got weird when they fucking sold to TKO.
I can only go by what I was making. I
can only imagine what like Hulk Hogan, Steve Austin the Rock, Like,

(01:21):
if you take all those guys, I think Steve was
at fifty percent of his merch some of mine was
even at twenty five percent. So I mean, when you
take that and you cut that in half and you
put that back on the books, that's several million dollars
that were in the red that go into the black
on the books. I'm double jeopardied in that because not
only are you fucking me and raising the price, but

(01:44):
then I'm also a stockholder, So are you fucking inflating
my stock by doing something that's not, you know, particularly legal.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Oh boy, Kevin Nashall learning lesson? I mean, I'm I'm
just sounds so condescending. I'm sure he's well aware, but
like that's how these bigger companies operate, you know, like
they just whatever they get the most they can get
out of you in the least they can give you back.
It's not it's not little enough, you know. But I
guess to some extent too, And like this is in

(02:18):
no way, shape or form to excuse TKO fucking Nicolin
and Diamond. These guys, especially a guy like Waltman, who
I guarantee you needs it more than Nash. But it's
crazy to me to even picture doing something thirty years
ago and then somebodys being like, oh, oh yeah, I O.
You're like fifty bucks for that.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I'm like wait what really They're like, yeah, shit, you
did like in two thousand and five. That was real cool.
Here's one hundred dollars. It could be like wait what
h We'll see you know what the reason is that work.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I think people don't really understand that WWE is actually
just taking a loss right now and passing the savings
onto us.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
I think, yeah, that's yeah, and then we pass the
savings onto you. Yes, you're only paying one thousand dollars
for a ticket to a show.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Those tickets on SmackDown, I saw there were reports that
there was five thousand less seats, And it was funny
to me because everybody's reaction was, now, they're going to
have to go play bingo halls, and I'm like, no,
they're not. Yeah, they're going to play smaller venues that
are much much higher priced. You're gonna start going into

(03:32):
places that have marble floors instead of concrete outside the ring.
You know what I mean. You're not gonna be given beer,
You're gonna be giving wine in a flute in a champagne.
It doesn't make sense, but that's what's gonna happen. They
want a higher grade of audience. And I think, as
weird as it sounds, when they dry up our money,

(03:54):
the people on our level, when they dry up our money,
they're going to cater exclusively lead to millionaires until either
a like you and John have proposed and other people
that they just flip the company over to the Saudi's
and say FUCKET or B, until they have this ravenous,
high priced atmosphere show that can only be attended to

(04:15):
by the fucking one percent.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Where the like I've said before, not we are because
we're just normal fucking dudes doing our shit. But these
companies are spiraling in this direction once again, where they're
trying to sell a product to people that don't exist
like that. I know I've said this before, but that

(04:38):
to me, I find it so exhausting to see and
to watch, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
They say something behind that like and I know I
know Cody Rhodes came out in uh basically slurped Nick
Con for an hour, which was glorious to hear. But
Nick Con really has been the fundamental backbone of WWE,
making handover fist money per quarter like he has been

(05:04):
you know, easily, I think, and agreeably so between everybody.
Even when Vince was around, Nick Khn kind of had
the magic pen, you know, when it came to making
the right decisions financially. And now that we're in the
Tko era, are we still running things through Nick Khn?
Is Nick Con still the guy that has the vision

(05:25):
for how WWE should be in the future, or does
this feel like a complete corporate takeover in the sense
that even Nick Khn's influence and advice are being overrun
by perhaps t Ko's greed.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
It's probably just him. He's he's trying to read the room.
He's trying to just do what everybody else is doing.
And that's not like I'm sitting there saying like he's
some some saint who would also do some of these
less than savory business practices. Let's call it that.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Doesn't it feel like it's a lot? Though? It feels
like it's a lot more than it was when when
Vince was in control. It feels like it's a lot
more than even when it was just him and Stephanie
and Triple H running things like the dramatic changes that
have happened in this last God, I just want to
say last year, it almost feels like a Night and
Day Company version of itself.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, well, this is like, this is going to be
a problem that we have going forward, which is that
we always had our lizard people, We always had our Rockefellers.
We always had these people that you know, they were
you know, they were the modern day kings and queens,

(06:36):
the Brahmins, whatever you want to call them, right, Yeah,
but now we're getting to a point where they don't
even have to feign giving a shit to some extent,
you know, like obviously you had to have all the
minimum wage unions, the forty hour work week, you know,
stop making the eight year old stick cole and fucking
minds like these are all things that happened historically, which

(06:59):
now people forget because they've moved on to remembering important
facts about I don't know, the Domino stuff, Cruss pizza
or something, but all of that shit happened, and people
now are in a position where they forget that there
was any value to that. So they're upset at the
concept of it existing because they want to cling on

(07:20):
to whatever little fucking ounce of respect or feeling of
dignity that they have that they in any way, shape
or form, you know, rub elbows with these people who
make discussing fucking money, but they don't and now they're
going to have this position to where they're going to
and by this, I should reframe this too many pronouns, pal,

(07:42):
I believe that's the saying. Now, the people that have
all of the fucking resources, all the money, they're not
even gonna feign looking at you and being like, let's
give this amount of people X enough money to survive.
Let's give these X amount of people enough shit so
that way they keep showing up and keep doing the

(08:04):
job and maybe just maybe have half a smile on
their face. That whole concept seems to be disappearing quickly
and rapidly, and nobody gives the shit.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Nobody's foundation of business relies on people spending money. If
you price everyone out to where no one can spend
money on your product, I mean, how is that going
to help your bottom line?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well, that's where it's That's where I said we're getting
to this point where they're trying to sell to people
like they don't exist. These people are not there anymore.
It's the Fountain Blue in Vegas. That's the example. I've
used a handful of times where you know, come stay
at this big, opulent place. We're trying to draw a
middle upper class people to the strip and they're like, yeah, no,

(08:55):
there's not enough of those anymore. Man, right, I can't.
If they've got enough money to where they can pay
for this, they'll go to like the Alps.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Well here's the double down, you know. Well, this is
where I was trying to go with it, and here's
the double down issue. So if they continue on this
path of losing attendance members that show up to the
events and less and less people paying sixty bucks a
month or whatever the hell it ends up being with
all these pl things and then watching at seven thirty

(09:26):
in the morning or whatever, like all of these random
changes that are financially not not viable to the mass audience.
When they start losing money or they notice that their
income isn't as high even though they're squeezing harder and harder,
do they go back to a normalized format that we

(09:46):
remember or do they just flip it. That was kind
of the initial question I was asking you.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
I think that they're gonna just as far as like
the eight am fucking pay per views and stuff like that,
that doesn't really affect the people that are either more
hardcore fans or die hard fans, or if they're going
to get it through their ESPN app or their cable
service providuals are the.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Ones that bring in the most money. We know this.
They always watch the mom and pop that show up
just for Royal Rumble, the mom and pop that show
up for rustle Mania. We know that that's where the
real money comes in from. The people that sit on
their hands, you know, watch the show irregularly throughout the year,
and then the last few months of before Russell Mania,

(10:32):
everybody tunes the fuck in like it's it's the same
thing every year. We notice it on the podcast stats
every year every year. Right around January December, you know,
right there, all of a sudden, there's a lot more
people that just start perking up their ears and checking
out the podcasts and listening to the shows and if
brain catch up at that part of course, and that's

(10:54):
that's what most people do. But I mean if they
do it to the point where people can't even afford
those last few months, do they end up flipping the
whole thing, just giving it to Saudi when they just
start cutting their losses because they can't squeeze as much
money out of people, or do they dial it back?
Do you think that Nick Kahn and maybe Stephanie and
Triple H and whoever else is there from the old

(11:16):
guard that's still running with TKO, do they kind of
reel it back and go, hey, now there's a reason
why we did family audiences. Maybe you guys will listen
to us now. Because it feels like in a lot
of ways, and even through Shapiro and others, TKO wants
WWE to cater to more of the UFC style of audience,
where UFC will have your celebrities in the front row,

(11:37):
they'll have your big money players and everybody else that
attends hold on wall oh hair airport flies through my
fucking house while they have you know, like these these
big money, fucking high rollers and shit attending these shows,
is that the possibility that you know, with everything on

(11:57):
the table, that WWE seems to be going in direction.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Of dude, I don't think that they're thinking in the
sense of that this is a business they have any
sort of emotional connection or attachment to right, most things
that are material that we own for whatever reason, or
things that people buy. Of the vast majority of it

(12:24):
that's not you know, food, a house, and even to
some extent has a part of it. But like, there's
always an emotional connection. It's always something that means something
to you. If this company doesn't mean anything to the
people that are running it, then the second that it's
worth more money, they're going to get rid of it,

(12:46):
or the second they start to see that it's waning,
they unload it.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
So it's like if Tko was an actual person and
this person bought a real fancy dog and they discovered
one day, when you kick this dog, it makes a
funny noise, and they laugh and they enjoy it, and
so they keep kicking the dog, and the dog continues
to make the funny noise, and one day Tko gets

(13:10):
tired of kicking the dog, but they kick the dog anyways,
and the dog doesn't make a sound, and so they
again try to kick the dog, and they kick the
dog again and no sound and lo and behold. TKO
now just covers that the dog is dead. Now, what
is TKO going to do? Are they going to get
rid of the dog? Or are they going to kick
the dog even harder?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
They'll sell it for parts probably though we'll try to
do it. Yeah, well no, I mean I guess to
kind of go with that dog analogy to some extent,
with less kicking and dying, but more so just the
weirdos that like overbreed dogs. You know those people, sure,
the ones that you know, this is how you end
up with those like parafore dog right right, You end

(13:52):
up with exactly you're trying to sell to those weirdos
where it's like this is a pedigree pure bred Chihuahua,
and the chihuaha was looking at you and it's just
like I've been in bread for ten years and it's
like everything hurts, and they're like it's cute. They are cute,
Like they don't actually give a shit about the animal.

(14:14):
They don't care about what the outcome is. They don't
care about the actual product, if you will that they're selling. Now,
are there people that have nice little farms and maybe
they have a couple of dogs that live on the
farm and they have a litter of puppies and they
raise the puppies and they teach them all the tricks,

(14:35):
and you know, they make sure that they're going to
go to a family and they you know, they caught
the family beforehand and talk to them and make sure
that they're going to be nice people. Yeah, that happens,
you know. But the majority of people, like they just
want to oh okay, yeah right, They just want to
make as much money as they can selling the fucking
dog and getting rid of it. Unfortunately, that's what I think.

(14:57):
We have a TKO. And it's crazy really now when
we know what we know about Vince McMahon as far
as like his behavior, not as though most of us
didn't already know that for twenty years, but we all
pretended that we didn't. But there is a point where
you look at it, you go, Vince was closer to
the guy that owned the nice puppy farm than he

(15:17):
was the people that were making the puppy mill. TKO
is a fucking puppy mill. The second those dogs are like,
they're like, oh, this one's got a fucking bum leg,
Like throw it in the trash, like that's honest to god,
how I think that these people are gonna treat WWE
down the line. I don't believe that they have any
sort of care, any sort of like just the shit

(15:39):
that WE were in a weird sort of way used
to crazily enough, even from a guy like fucking Bishah
or Ted Turner, Like we're looking at billionaires from thirty
years ago and going, maybe those were maybe they weren't benevolent,
but at least they feigned giving a fuck on to

(16:00):
whatever it is they're putting money into. I don't think
it's like that.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Anymore, dude, No, you're probably right.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I don't think it is like Ted Turner funded a
failing wrestling company for years because he cared about wrestling
and appreciated what it did to help him build his network.
Do you think TKO would sit there and take fifty
bajillion dollars from WWE, and then the second that it
lost money, they'd be like, no, we're going to keep
funding it because thank you for those bajillions. Now they'll

(16:27):
just sell it to fucking Turkey Man. You know.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah, But WWE isn't just like a fucking Taco Bell,
you know, Gordida or something like that, right, you don't
just pass it off to the next person. It's I
don't know. It's kind of something that we talked about
a long time ago too. Is the juice of WWE
worth the squeeze, and obviously the squeeze being the work

(16:50):
And I don't know. WWE has made a lot of
people a lot of money over the last forty years.
I would assume that you don't just get the right
and own WWE just to throw it away. It seems
like counterproductive, you know what I mean. It's an investment.
When you purchase WWE. You're not just investing in your

(17:11):
immediate employees or the talent and stuff like that. But
it's a long term financial gain. It's something that WWE
has proven over the years that it constantly comes back
with dividends positive dividends. So them just squeezing it for
what it's got and then throwing it away, I don't know.
It just doesn't seem like something a rich, greedy person

(17:32):
would do. You think they'd want to keep squeezing it
and kicking the dog for as long as they possibly could.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
But they It once again goes back to not caring
about what the actual product is not actually caring, like
the same way. You know, what's that movie The Sandlot? Right?
Remember the movie the Sandlot? Yeah, kids film? And you
know he had to build the ball. I think it

(17:59):
was a Babe Ruth ball, and you know it fucking
got destroyed by the guy's dog and it was James
Earl Jones and he gave him blah blah blah blah blah.
Long story short, That baseball, if you don't give a
shit about history, is a baseball with a bunch of
fucking scribbles on right right, you know, like as a
Babe Ruth, like I guarantee you, like most kids, I

(18:21):
could be like this belongs to Babe Bruce. They'd be
like like that fucking candy bar, Like they don't get
shit right. It doesn't have a real value.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
But the kids are also stupid, you know what I mean.
Like there's a difference adults, a dumb kid and a
dumb billionaire who hires other people to be smart for him.
You know, I think that's why they don't see the value.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
I feel like the value of the.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Thing never you never really place the fact that they
surround themselves with people that know better. And that's what
they pay them for. That's why Nick Kahn was such
a fucking golden goose, because he was not a guy
that we didn't we talked about the We didn't talk
about Nick Khn during the Attitude era. He wasn't a
part of that. And when he finally became part of WWE,

(19:07):
they realized that this guy knew a way to keep
making money without compromising the ideals of what WWE is.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, and then they sold it to people that more
than likely don't have that.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah. But even the sales process was a giant fucking mess,
with the board overthrowing Vince and then Vince clawing his
way back through the middle of many lawsuits to regain
control and then oust his own daughter. And look, the
whole sale to TKO is just marred in bullshit. Let's

(19:41):
be honest. That was not Vince with a clear mind
or a clear conscience, or you know, even without legal aid,
doing a deal because he thought it was the best
thing for him. I really think that that was a
break the glass and get the fuck out. I still
feel like that whole sale to TKO was Vince expecting

(20:01):
everything to get you know, lit up on fire, and
he had to get the fuck out, which technically he did,
but I don't know. I still wonder if that there's
a long term plan for WWE as a whole, as
opposed to just screwing.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
I'm still going with WrestleMania. We get some sort of
announcement that the Saudi's are now at least partial holders
of WWA.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
I thought, I you bring that up, but I thought
they had control of the stocks too, not obviously not
more than fifty one percent, but I thought they had
a major stake in the stocks as well.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
I wouldn't be shocked, but I mean, we're talking about
a place where it's just bottomless money and they don't care,
you know, like they have so much money that the
only thing that's left for them to do is buy
people and influence. You know. That's that is the position
that they're in as a country and as a nation
where you know what I mean, At some point we

(20:57):
probably could have been able to do something similarly along
those lines, but instead, I don't know, we just found
ways to launder money to each other's friends. That was it. Like,
I was like, what if we use that money to
kind of other than obviously just weapons, But what if
we use that money throughout the world to try to
do this and that and the other thing, and we're

(21:19):
like manna. But now that the Saudis will step in,
they'll spend money on the shit. I mean they last week.
I know we talked about it, but like they bought
Yay Sports, they're gonna buy fucking I'm shocked at this point.
And I'm thinking about guys like Jerry Jones or Robert Kraft,
some of these dudes that own NFL teams who are

(21:41):
quite frankly they're mummies. Like the fact that their upright
is a miracle and when they go do their children
feign integrity and try to run that company independently of
like bringing in somebody or selling off or does it
once again just just shikes Turkey show up and just

(22:02):
go yeah, I'm gonna just take the Cowboys and they go,
sounds great, you can have them, or are like, oh,
we're just gonna take the picture. Sounds great, Have the
Patriots take them? Like would that surprise you in the
next No, absolutely not so. Wrestling ewe's are part of that,
you know.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Wrestling soup for a mature audience. I don't develop wrestling soup.
I am Anthony Thomas. He is Joseph numbers.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Yoh, Monday night.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Monday night, really nice and cold by sixty sixty five
degrees here in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
That's beautiful. Are you getting a little chilly over there?

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Love it out this morning? Fifty five degrees this morning.
It was beautiful.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
See, I don't I don't mind the heat because I
know that we're in store for six months of fucking
just pure darkness at fucking three thirty afternoon.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Bring on, bring on the nights, give me the moon.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I am the knight spring on the dark, spring on
the dark darkness. That's what I am.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Meanwhile, I'm at this point where I'm just like, just
give me enough sunshine to make my head feel okay, sure,
you know, just give me a little bit of a
fucking I think I might buy one of those suns.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
I don't want that. I don't want the fucking news sun. No.
I want everybody to come back down to my level.
More fucking moon, more shadow.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
I like it. It's just like it's werewolf season.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, but the wear bears are out there.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
It was a thirty days a night of the movie
with that was a pretty good vampire movie.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
I was dad, but it wasn't bad. I actually just
got a chance to watch that last twenty eight years
later too. I know it's like fucking so late, but
I watched the whole series. It wasn't bad. This last
one was okay. It was okay. They can't replace. I mean,
they made two accutes in the first one and the
second one. But I don't know who's come out of
this one.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Well, they always tried to do. They blew the o
hole out on zombie content, and like the past ten
to fifteen years, I mean, they just they destroyed talking
about like taking a company and just ripping it for parts.
Look at what they did to that Walking Dead franchise,
Oh my god, oh.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
As much as they could Jesus, And they like.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
The fiction, got on a helicopter and went to France.
Never gonna make five seasons of in France? Yea, what
the fuck are you people doing?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
And who's it with them? Though? The old lady was
with them and Carol, Carol, because she she rowboted out there, right,
didn't she get like a raft and just she took
a raft to France. I'm like, oh, okay, that seems yeah,
that's cool. Yeah, that's reasonable. I totally get that. Yeah,

(24:54):
I know, it's like anything they gets and they all
understand them both, which I think is great. It's just
everybody in France understand English. I'm like, okay, that's.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
They're like, shit was so bad we learned English? Yes,
you know, like they're like the zombies, like that's we
had to get by.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
But you know what, let's let's be Fogan has a
new series coming out too, doesn't he?

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Oh god does he?

Speaker 1 (25:15):
No? No, I'm serious. I thought there was a Megan
series out there too, So it's not just Daryl and Carroll.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
I'd love if they called it that, like, no, the
Walking Dead, fucking say Perry, like it was just like
Daryl and Carroll.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
That's the Misadventures of Daryl and Carroll in the Afterlife.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
It sounds like a goddamn ABC sitcom, you know what
I mean? Yeah, no, whatever, dude, they're just everything they
can do to ring a penny out of these fucking
TV shows and movies. They've just dragged them on so
goddamn long.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
But they would never do such a thing on Monday
Night raw dude. Ww. We would never do such a
thing like beat something to death.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well, I was even going to say that I was
gonna go the movie side of things. So, what was
it the six billion dollar machine movie that came out
with The Rock? Six million dollar machine? Six six million
dollars is I guess what it made? And it only
made one and a half million on the opening night.
That's so the opening weekend that made six million dollars.

(26:21):
I think, if I recall correctly, the actual cost of
the movie was eighty million, so, which, by the way.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
I think that right. I think about the price of
an eighty million dollar movie, and from what it looks like,
it's The Rock.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Having fifty million fat Yeah, yeah, sorry.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Still Jesus Christ, Like it's just The Rock as a
as an MMA fighter, and it's like, where did this
money go? At some point, is there like a fight
scene and they're blowing shit up? Like what did you
spend this money on? It seems like a low budget
movie just from the trailer.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Fifty million Really isn't that that big of a budget anymore?
Like if you were talking about nineteen eighty seven, a
fifty million dollar movie, yeah, that's that's insane. But in
twenty twenty five, with the cost of everything, yeah, it's
it is kind of low budget, Like obviously there's indie
level low budget, but for a major studio, what well,

(27:21):
it was a twenty four that did it, right, I
mean they're a major, so I see you at this point.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah. Yeah, basically with all the money that they've been
able to siphon off of their horror movies where it's
just like the Walking Closet, You're like, what the fuck's that?
And you're like, it's a haunted walking closet. I mean,
I'm sure, let's watch it.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
I'm sure. You know, Rocky got his his cut, his pay,
so you know what I mean, Like sure, yeah, and
he Dan is saying, that's a lot of money for
a twenty four. Yeah, for some of their films, but
I mean it's not like all of their films are cheap.
So well, Rock the Rock.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Is like the quarterback that takes a huge fucking contract
and it is like, why don't I have any talent
and around me? Right, Like because you fucking asked for
too much money. It's like the same like The Rock
would probably be like, listen, it's a low budget film,
I'll take am easily twenty eight million dollars, right, it's
like rock that's a lot of money, dipshit, He's like,

(28:14):
what for the pores?

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Right? But I didn't even say that's an advertising. Did
you even see any advertising for this?

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Not really? I mean I got a couple obviously you're
gonna get Yeah, you're gonna get targeted YouTube videos. YouTube.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, I got it on YouTube. But I didn't see
it on anything on like regular media. Hell, I didn't
even think I saw social media talking about it like
until now. But I mean before the movie actually debuted,
I didn't see many people talking about it at all.
And you'd figure even in our atmosphere, we would have
seen something, you know.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I don't. I don't see an appeal to this type
of movie anymore. You know where it's a and I'm
pretty sure it's a sad ending too, right the guy
fucking died? Am I wrong? Folks?

Speaker 1 (28:59):
I want? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Well no, I mean it's based on the true story
of that dude, where he was like just a complete
fucking righted out guy. I don't know, maybe he has
like a Tertz or something.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Then Rocky kicked out a too, man. Come on, there's
no way he's going down him.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah, thank you, guys, like, yeah, he died.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
I'm like, yeah, so reputable chat room source Coke Coke.
Hogan says that he saw it on ESPN. Well maybe,
well that's where I had to be.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
What is said? Oh, never mind, Mark is still alive.
Most of Rock's pay went to him. Well that's nice Mark.
Oh it's Mark Kerr. Yeah all right, but guys once
again not Nick. Yeah, yeah, Hogan's is so sad he's
not alive. It's a star, is that character?

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Oh that's yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Or you know right, yeah, the Rock took us again. Yeah,
oh god, the Rock only took four million dollars. Oh
what a fucking saint.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Oh it was charity. Is that what it was? It
was just charity.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah, how kind of him to only take formulae. Now
I get it, though, this is not the type of
film anymore that people are looking for. I don't think
that you know the ethos of Rocky where it's just
like you you got in the rook, you try both,
you know what I mean, just like a doubble underdog.
Like people don't give a fuck. That's done, right, that

(30:22):
whole thing is fucking done. That's a boomerge gen X
and oldest Fantasy fantasy of being like, oh it was
the fact Kuder. Now I'm gonna play in the NFL
like that's old. That's shit that people thirty years ago
would watch, you know, And here's The Rock sitting there

(30:42):
being like, I'm gonna make a movie that is fuck
else is The.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Rock going to do? He fails at comedy, he fails
at whatever the fuck family tooth fairy shit that he's
doing the last Oh wow, Fast and the Furious. Maybe
obviously the Mummy are scoring king. He did well at
if it's not action shit, what is The Rock good at? Dude?
He tried directing that Page movie. Nobody talks about that.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Well.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
It was a kid's It was literally like a kid's movie.
I watched it on a fucking plane I remember, god
knows how many years ago, and it felt like I
was watching one of those like Disney Channels shows of
the early two thousand. I'm like, yeah, wow, this is
a quite the motion picture you've made.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Here do I look, and I see drew As saying
like it they did actually got good reviews, yes at
the time. Who still talks about it though, Like I
don't even see people reference it like good movies, not
just us. But many people will just bring up a
good movie if it was good. They'd bring up a
good series or a real bad series if it was
real good or bad or memorable. I don't see anybody

(31:46):
bringing up pages movie or the Rocks directorial data.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
And it's a kid it's a fucking kids movie. Air
Bud probably got good reviews. What do you what's your
point right, Like, that's it's not a real motion picture
like once again, not a film film. It's a it's
a thing. Yeah, it's to be forgotten. It's it's not
even seven. It's Indian YouTube or Indian Christmas carols. Like

(32:13):
you just listen to it once, you laugh and you
move on. Yeah you know that was oh cool? All right,
Well enough of that. But yeah, man, and I know
this is a crazy concept, but imagine if The Rock
just fucked up, like just go away.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
No, I'm hoping the next movie he does is about himself.
I would love to see the Rock direct and act
in a biopic about himself.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
He mesh, he already did a TV show that was
all about Young Rock. Young Rock.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
This I know, but I mean something serious, not because
he can get away with that. I was just being funny.
The rock says that was funny.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Laugh, And I'm like the there does reach this point
of elite saturation of a public figure where they already
know everything about you. They already know everything that's true.
They already know everything that's bullshit. You've worn ten different hats.
They might have been Oh that's a good hat. Looks

(33:15):
kind of good on you. Do you write?

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Can he write another book? Because that rock says book
was absolute trash? Can he go back? I mean, it's
been what twenty five years since that book came out.
Maybe he can title it if they only knew, like
I just you know, steal Joni Lawler's book team or
not exactly. They're good.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Yeah, she's not. She's not so in the info. Oh god,
I can't. I can't help myself. I'm very good.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Oh there you go. Why Chocolate has a good one too.
If I did it, Yeah, that's a great rock title.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
If I. If I did it, And by that I
mean continue to succeed into the twenty twenties, man, Like,
there is something to People have seen all your tricks
and it's okay. You can just start kind of moving away.
You can start kind of taking a step.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Back and what about a suggestion. I have a suggestion,
how about you train your daughter?

Speaker 2 (34:17):
U ooh, and then I don't know. No, she's got
no personality, man, she really can you start?

Speaker 1 (34:24):
I mean she's still the tender age of what twenty six?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah right, She's not even like a younger kid anymore.
There was I saw some sort of maybe it was
like a fucking Yahoo news feed or something where The
Rock at his movie premiere his daughter. They're like the
Rock's daughter introduced her girlfriend, and I'm just like, is
this what the Rock's doing now to and by the way,

(34:51):
like this is no shade to the to the kid
at all. I think she just sucks. I think she
just sucks in the wrestling world. Not good at me? Yes, yeah,
but is this where like, could you not see the
Rock sitting there being like, that's my next career move.
I'm an accepting parent, and it's like, shut up, Rock,
fucking shut the fuck up. It's so fake, dude, Like

(35:11):
you're just such a fucking phony baloney. It's sad that
it's gotten to that point. Everybody wanted to root for you.
Everybody in the wrestling world for the most part, was like,
oh cool, the Rock's doing action movie sick cool.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
He seems like a nice guy. He seems like a
caring guy. But then, like I said, Outstate, you're welcomed well.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
To the Let's also keep in mind too, he does
have one other role to play at russell Mania this
year when he goes one on one with Cody Rhodes.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Oh oh boy, Yeah, and he's gonna who is he
in when that one? Heikes a dudeo dunde.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
I hope he gets the title too. I hope he
makes it a title match and he takes the belts
from Cody, and we get another year of The Rock
as champion in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
I like the idea of you saying this, like we
like we deserve that.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Oh you know, because you know what, because I'm joking,
I'm half joking, but we just got done trashing how
evil billionaires billionaires are that run TKO. I would immediately
assume that TKO sees The Rock as the future of
WWE to make the most money. They'd be like, guys,

(36:26):
why don't you give the belt to the Rock? People
love the Rock, they.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Love them, And this is where I will say this
is as difficult as it is for me a little
bit to say, you gotta give us billionaires the credit
to know this. They're aware of the fact that this
guy is on the downslide. They would give it, I
think to Logan Paul at this point before the rock,
and I could be completely wrong. Maybe the people are

(36:52):
just out of touch enough shit.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Maybe they could get it to like, you know, Butterbean
or Butterball or whatever the fuck that gout.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Jelly jelly better. Maybe they'll just give it to like
whoever the fuck they can get to show up.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
That's like a WWE fan as a joke. But Bad
Bunny would be an interesting choice. Not for the world title,
but if they gave him like the European title or something,
they'd be great.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Well, do you know what, It's very funny, and somebody
somewhere is really just hearing this like mouth a gape
at the idea of it, because it's almost so WCW
David rcutes, but Bad Bunny beating Dom for the Intercontinent. Sure,
I've heard worse ideas. I've seen worse things happen in wrestling.

(37:42):
I don't know. I don't know. It could be worse,
It could be much much worse than that at this point.
I mean also when you take into account, like all
the fucking shit that's going on with that dude, all
the press and the people that are getting poopies in
their pants because the guy's gonna say in Spanish, they're
all negating the fact that, like, honestly, god, you know

(38:04):
what they should do to the people that are losing
their minds about that and being all weird and salty.
Show the footage of him on these WWE shows and
be like, hey, you know what, Yeah, sure that happened
in Puerto Rico, but look at these other fucking places too.
The guy's a star. People love him. I know he doesn't, gasp,
speak the same fucking language as you. But think of

(38:27):
the fact that we've been taking American music stars and
they've gone throughout the world.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
But Joe, you talk about bad money like this, and
I think to myself, I'm like, you're kind of a hypocrite,
because where was this enthusiasm when we had machine Gun
Kelly out there every other month?

Speaker 2 (38:42):
That's a good point, Yeah, is she good? Kelly? By
the way, not that I want you to pull this up,
because that's the worst shit I've ever heard of my life.
But I'm just for the people that you know, want
to hear something to make them feel awful. Do you know?
All right, I don't know if you know the band.
I guarantee you Tink knows this song. I guarantee your

(39:06):
daughter knows this song, The Misery Business by Paramore. Do
you know Paramore?

Speaker 1 (39:11):
I do know Paramore, And no, I don't know the
Misery Business.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Okay. So the song is a very very catchy song.
The singer has a fucking it's just an awesome voice, girls,
super talented. So Machine Gun Kelly thought that he could
do a cover of this song and it is the worst,
like drunk karaoke style horrible, you know, like I get it,

(39:38):
Like if someone's like, hey, you're going to try to
this decent singer is going to try to cover Whitney Houston, right,
or this decent singer is going to try to cover
fucking Eta James or Adell or one of these women.
They have these amazing voices. You know, maybe they'll get
in the ballpark of it. But you can't be an
amazing vocalist and have somebody cover writ Daddy's fucking awful,

(40:03):
but awful.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
But he was fucking Megan Fox Joe, Oh, never mind that, Yeah,
all right, se fuck thank god, dear lord. Sure you
were throwing me off there for a minute. But I'm
like bo but but.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
I like, you know, I do think it's good. I
think we should all start to operate under the yeah,
but i'd fuck them rules, you know. I mean, like,
I think they clearly shit's gone in a real positive
direction under the guise of it's like, listen, this person
has no talent, mobility, they're not interesting, nothing's cool about him.
But like, if you'd fuck them, then we should just

(40:41):
immediately respect them and give them money and like them.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
More because of that.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Doesn't that make sense? Of course? I mean yeah, but
I'm telling you, like, don't don't do it now because
I don't want to. I don't want to make you
feel bad. You'll hear it, You'll go this is the
worst song I've ever heard of my life. And it's
not it's a good song. It's a fucking good, catchy song,
but he does it and it is rough, fucking rough.

(41:09):
I don't know how we got there because you mentioned
that fucking Dingleberry, but uh, I mean it just even
the Cassio people.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I like how he yamming out the business and news
or even take it from the top.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
He's got a body like him now a glass of
sticking like a clock. This is like me tired trying
to do a pay per view at midnight or at
eight a m.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Which will be doing proud Jewel predictions very shortly free,
I could have large you was he only one from
the pussy Builds Strong Bones?

Speaker 2 (41:43):
How?

Speaker 1 (41:43):
I love that drummer shirt? Yes, wow, that's so edgy.
He looks like it looks like if John Draper got
fucking tattoos on his face.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
Oh dude, okay, so throw it back a little bit.
Listen to this chorus. Listen to him do this chorus?
All right, okay, please because you moved to compare it,
but wanta now was a mya session by.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
It's like Jim Ross is singing it.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
I don't know if it's okay. Now, please not for
that now cold you please play the version of the
girl singing you just you'll be able to hear the difference,
and you're gonna go, oh my god, what a fucking
what a travesty that this was done to this girl's song?

Speaker 1 (42:36):
No, no, no, you're like, no, I just want to
hear that.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Fine, It's fine, all right, so everybody else is use
your imagination, man.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
So that's we had Monday Night Raw. It happened, and
this is.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
How good the show is. We're listening to machine Gun
Kelly Covers. In comparison to w W ROB, this week RAW.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Was I was a sleeper. I mean, this is the
last row before Crown Jewel Perth. And I'm sure there
were some people that liked it. I think it was interesting.
Me and you kind of pulled out last week's Rob
when we talked about it and found some good things,
Like I really didn't hate last week's Raw. I enjoyed
it even though a lot of people were completely down
on it. This week, though, I don't know, it's not

(43:25):
that it was specifically bad. I mean there were some
things about it that were awful, like Kyrie sayaninge again
and congratulations to Kyrie saying for almost killing another person.
I mean, she really does operate under the old school
women's wrestling rules where if you can't make it to
the top, injure everyone that's in your way, So.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
You know, and please, it's totally funnier too, because you
know when Naya Jax hurts people. You could always just
say she doesn't know her girth, right.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
She's an accident. At this point, I think Kyrie is
an actual fucking assassin. She really is.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yes, it's the difference between the crocodile biting off your
head in one of those little fucking like water things
that swim up your pea hole and kill you. Yes,
that's the difference. She swims up your pe hole and
kills you.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
I will, I will stay. I'll still stick to it though,
Man fucking Oscar greatest, greatest performer of the night. Her
uh her promo in the beginning where she's snapping on
Pierce is great. Pierce again, consummate professional, absolutely entertaining dude.
His reaction to her hyperbolic overstating speed racing of yelling

(44:40):
at him threw him off guard, and rightfully so, he
looked visibly flustered. I love Adam Pearson this role. Osca
is just killing it. And the fact that she slapped
the shit out of Kyrie saying I saw so many
people reacting going, fuck Oscar, she's a bit blah blah blah.
I was that's Grilla, or maybe not even secretly publicly

(45:02):
just watching that go on, do it again? Yeah, how about.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
How about just the fact alone that Oscar is so
fucking I mean, it's still very cliche. Let's call what
it is. It's very but it works. Okay, Yes, but
this Kyrie saying thing. Man, I watch it and I
but I don't think I didn't see some of the
comments on you know, you and I talking about the

(45:31):
whole thing with Riho and people being like it's offensive
to call out the fact that sexualizing people that look
like they're just two years old is you know, that's
their culture or whatever. It's like, yeah, no, you're you're weirdos.
You're fucking weirdos. Actually just be you're a fucking weirdo.
And your proof that the Internet at this point you'll

(45:52):
find somebody to defend anything in everything. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Side happened, total side note before we before I forget,
I found it's a real thing. Joe and and we've
made jokes about this over the years, and I knew
it was real to the extent of like cartoons and stuff,
but there are actual stardom body pillows, and I thought

(46:17):
it was just the hen Ti shit. I thought it
was weird dudes with like the cartoon girls on a
Body pillow. I have found actual stardom employees wrestlers on
body on body pillows that will now be gifted out
to friends of the show for this Christmas.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
Well this to me this maybe.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Thou maybe used, Yes.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Oh, this is how you know that people on the internet,
Like I said once again, you'll find anybody that they'll
defend anything that can fall into any sort of echo chamber,
whether it be positive or negatives. You know, like go
to the gym, meet your vegetables. You know, there's people
that can fall into that one or they can end
up in the world where they'll say, hey, it's really

(47:04):
weird that you guys are like getting fucking off on
this weird Toddler esque bullshit and they're like, you're racist
for saying that. It's like wait, what wait, how did
you reach that conclusion? And it's like, oh, it's because
it's a bunch of fucking weirdos that want to justify
their weird shit. And they go, well, I guess if

(47:25):
you don't understand what weird shit must be, you not
understanding Japanese people, not me being a fucking seat sniffer. Uh, yeah,
the Kyrie shit though, like her promos and all that.
I'm like, this is just it's weird. And it comes
off as like I'm like, no one believes this is
remotely real, right, Like I'm like, really, really, come fucking.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
That's That's one of the ones I found. It's a
real thing. Bo I always thought it was a joke.
It was always a joke. Your basement dweller and you
fuck your body, pillow. It's like, no, there's this all
actually came from somewhere. Somebody lays on this at night, passionately,

(48:19):
passionately lays on it at night.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
I think to myself, you know, there's always there's always
that story as a man where you look back and
you go, boy swinging a mess. By me, every guy's
got that story swinging a miss. Right, there's some woman
they work with, There is somebody that they went to
school with and they were into them, and you were
just like, dur I'm a fucking guy. Dr you're just

(48:43):
being a dumb fuck. Maybe you're insecure whatever, right, And
I just imagine the dude that's just unlucky in love,
you know, sure, And he finally brings the girl back
to his wherever he sleeps at night, right, and she

(49:03):
waksing and she sees this on his fucking bed. Oh,
and I think, once again, I go, you know what,
maybe there's some sort of cultural thing here that I
don't understand amongst like anime people and shit, right, I'm
trying to not be an old fuddy duddy, you know, right,
Like some girls gonna see this and be like, I

(49:25):
too love anime shit, So I totally get why you
would do this, But there's also like, what the fuck
like like the one that you posted, this isn't even
like a cartoon.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
No, that's what I was saying, Like I alway thought
it was a joke with the head tai stuff. Yeah,
this is an actual picture. Her name is Sakura Milwaukee
or Cherry Milwaki, and it's called the Big Cushion, the
Tofu Pro Wrestling ex God's Hand. God's hand is a stable.
Don't ask me why I know that.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
But it's kind of your job, oh job. Yeah, but
it's it's literally a picture of her with her arms
crossed because she's you know, ooh, she's giving you that
evil succulent eye or something.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
And yeah, don't.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Miss with me, right, this is almost more straight. Like
I said, like it was a cartoon, it somehow is
less weird to the extent of you know, like speaking
of machine gun Kelly. Imagine you're a thirty year old man.
You go to a woman's house and she's got a
machine gun Kelly.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Pillow on her bed. Oh, I love it him. Nine
oh five has a picture of shinske. There's a few
things I've learned about shinsk over this weekend. When it
comes to weird merch. The towel is a good There's
a lot of towels too, Joe. That's the other thing.
If a body pillow doesn't suit you, they have these long,
life sized towels. A lot of Japanese wrestlers, specifically women,

(50:59):
where they have long towels. That's you know, it's their
profile shots. So what would it be like if you
got to lay on the beach and the sand, face
down on top of your favorite wrestling character, your favorite
wrestling wifu Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Oh, bully, Yeah. Well, you know what I say to
myself often when we see this type of stuff, you know, maybe,
like I said, we don't get it. You know, America,
we have some we have some hang ups, you know,
with sexuality and sex and gender and you know most things.
At this point, we're you know, race taking, take taking

(51:39):
basic medicine, you know, type of shit like that, Like
we have real issues with it. But then I see
this and I go, all right, maybe we're doing We're
doing enough, so just a little bit, we're still doing
better than that. You know, where a thirty year old
man's like, could you print out a pillow of a
woman so I can have a pillow with a picture

(52:02):
of a woman on it.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
I can do one better than that. I can pick
you up the will Osprey towel. They have a will
Osprey towel that I see in me, you know.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
And this is where, you know, spending fifty million dollars
on that rock movie big waste, big waste of money.
And I'll tell you why.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
He could have given the kids all towels.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yeah, well that not only that, like probably for like
a measly one hundred grand I could make a whole
movie similar to like The Brave Little Toaster about will
Osprey towel, where will Osprey towel gets like left in Japan. Sure,

(52:52):
and then he has to figure his way back to England.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
You know, all the things he has to do. Poor
will Osprey towel.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Yeah, oh get owned, just trying rough. And then he's
like and then he's hanging off the rail of the train,
but he forgets that he's a towel. He's like, well,
brown into waym brov. And then he gets blown off
off the train. Right obviously, well Ospray wants to be
on a train.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Trying to get to the next town, but he doesn't
have any cab fare, and there's a big, fat, burly
guy on the side and he's like, I'll give you
some cab fare, come on over. And then will Ospray
towel comes back out and he's got tears in his eyes,
but he's got a handful of fives. Yeah, no, I'm
with you.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
I I like that. I'm making it brave, little toaster.
You're making it requiem for a dream you're making At
the Basketball Diaries.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
I was just saying, you fuck quick to get on
to try and I didn't know all the mochell fine
trip brov.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
And I'm like, what if he's what if he had
to be helped by animals and others, sentient creatures that
came to life. You're like yeah, what if he shirked
into he just gets squished around in. Somebody says, over, wait,
I didn't see the will Osprey towel. Is that a

(54:10):
real thing?

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Or yes, yes, no it really is. There is a
will Osprey towel. I was looking at it and deciding
who is going to get this wonderful will Osprey tel?
But I think I'm gonna have to send it to you, Joe.
I think we're gonna need side by side picks or
you know, top the top picks, whichever of you and
the will Osprey towel. Hello, No, ladies, there's a couple

(54:33):
of others. I'm trying to see what other towels that
they haven't work Cassidy towel, Yes, no, no, there wasn't.
There was a will Osprey. There was a J. White. Yeah,
of course there was a J. White towel. Duh.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Well, you know what, at least those dudes that are
like ripped up like back in the you know.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
When there was Penny Omega towel or pillow though, I
was kind of surprise, Well that's what you've seen. Have
they all been bought out?

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Who wasn't that post of that picture of Kenny Omega.
That motherfucker looks blown out.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
He looks, God, he looked. What are you talking about.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
I think he's a little bit younger than me and
Harry Gordy looks great here today.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Oh fuck, dude. It's like he's entered that phase of
your life where you've had enough, like residual health problems
and injuries, where your eyebrows don't try anymo. Yeah, like
when you're your eyebrows are like, yeah, I'm not brown anymore, dude,
I'm enough of this. I'm just I'm exhausted, like you

(55:41):
have just the face fucking alopecia.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Yeah, Like, look at that.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Look at him there, and I know we just had
a wrestling match and he's a man in his forties,
but that looks like, uh god, he looks like sting.
Oh my god, that's what sting looks like. It is
fifties and sixties. Yeah, damn, Kenny.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Is Aroachi ton of hashy pillow. I see that.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
You're damn right. There's a Roachi ton of hash.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Here's another one. Here's another one.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Oh, there's a there's a Kenny towel. Yeah, is that
a towel or.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
A flag Mercedes mona towel.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Oh boy, yeah, this is where we're going.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
So yeah, Monday night, raw, what were we saying? Yeah,
Oscar did good. I enjoyed Oscar. Kyrie saying, is a
is a killer? She's there.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
I'm terrified of her. I gotta tell you, and I
mean like in a way that she's gonna hurt you
by accident.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Yeah, she's She's trying to take out everybody. She's going
to take out of everybody. That's why Oscar's on her side.
So she's an at your rustler. It's great.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
I know Oscar's like she has to nag her because
she's afraid of getting injured by her.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Almost fucking killed EO on the corner of the fucking ring.
And I'm just you know, people used to defend her
against us with Charlotte and everything else, and it's like,
how many injuries does she have to be a part of?
Who did she take out? She took out Live right,
because Live blew out her arm and ship on the

(57:13):
wall or whatever well she.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Took out that was a different one. Okay, near mind,
I thought you meant the recent arm thing. I'm like, yeah,
there was no control today, you know.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
But they also but people make those excuses. But why
is she always there at ground zero when people get hurt?
I'm sorry, Even if she's not doing it herself, she
is the black cat of injuries. Who else did she
take out? The SHANEA. Basler clone, Zoe Stark?

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Who else? She got somebody else too, Kyrie, Kyrie is
just collecting fucking names.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Yeah, she's a new Mothman Jesus. Yeah, she's cutesy pirate Mothman.
That's what happens. She just shows up and that's how
the man.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Kyrie is not good and I love the fact that
she's in the role of being the beaten puppy. But yeah,
once the storyline is over, if they can get rid
of Kyrie, I'm fine with it.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Yeah, that'd be great. She could just go.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Now she's so joined with Bailey.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
I don't care, well, you know, should we address the
Bailey thing, because I don't feel like we should go
in order on this show because who gives a fuck.
But the Bailey thing, I like angry. Let's beat people
up Bailey. I kind of like it. I think that's good,
like sans the you know, I'm gonna be fucking all

(58:39):
bipolar Bailey element of it. I'm glad that there's a
woman on the show who has some sort of name,
you know, recognition where she's like, yeah, bitch, you cheated,
I'm gonna go beat the shit out of you. Good good.
It's crazy that it has to be Bailey, but don't
I don't hate that. I don't hate how she's working

(59:02):
right now. I just think the attachment to bird Girl
and the gimmick itself is cocka doo.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Yeah, okay, I'm just I'm fed up with Bailey. Dude.
I'm just I don't fucking care. This bipolish stick is awful, right, Like, yeah, no,
she can have good matches. I don't think I've ever
said that she's not capable of having good matches. And
the stuff that they did to to Rosalie and Rocky
Mendez in the back afterwards was great, you know, like,

(59:32):
no fucking problem with that. That's fine. But yeah, I'm
all set on Bailey. I'm cool with her not seeing
her for a while.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
It doesn't bother I would I would like to have
seen Bailey have some sort of like, like I said,
the way that she's working the intensity, the anger, like
the actual like I'm gonna punch a bitch and you're
not gonna fuck me over Like I'm like, oh good,
Like I'm glad that there's a woman that has that. Yeah,
that still doesn't look like Quebec like Ray Ripley.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Right, yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
I mean you can have more than you can have
more than one, you know, because it's okay to have
more than one woman that you might actually think could
hurt someone, you know, that's that's fine and not hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
There's the real badass over there.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Hey, Kyrie means me no mean and me me say
sounds like fucking jar Jar binks Kyrie binks. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Do you think that would be Kyrie's shirt? That would
be your first shirt? It's like I have a choice
between Lyra valcarious I'm like a bird where Kyrie saying's
me sorry shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
They brought back what's his name? Shirt too on Monday?
Did you notice that they brought back Bronson red shirt?
So Bronson read shirt with the tribal thief one had
the shoes on it, and somebody in the fucking greater
world realize, Hey, this shirt is stupid. Nobody's buying it.
Nobody wants it, so they took it back, they erased

(01:01:08):
the shoes, and then they re fucking branded the shirt
out there, and I'm like, Okay, do you think that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
They should take that tribal thief shirt and give it
to Rocket? But he means it, you know, like he goes,
he actually goes and steals the land.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
He just steals everybody's land. Go back to Hawaii wearing it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Yeah too on the nose, you think, Dwayne? Yeah, no,
I saw him out there, Brons and this thing with Roman.
It got heat and the crowd was fying.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
I mean I think that if you don't have Bronson
win this match, then what And he's not, He's not
gonna win it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
But I hum, I think it's gonna be one of
those dq fucking things. I really, I know we'll get this.
It's also Australia to like that close enough to home
for him, Like, I think they're gonna give it to them,
But I don't think it's gonna be clean at all,
even though it's an Australian street fight. You know, a
match that nobody's ever beaten Bronze and in a match

(01:02:11):
that we've never seen before an Australian street fight. Do
they realize that Australia is a country? Whoa, it's a
United States street fight? What the fuck is that? It's
the whole country.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
It's the continent of Asia street fight, right like, wait
the fucking it's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
An Eastern Hemisphere street fight?

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Why? Oh damn, there's multiple time zones. No, it's It
was funny to me because Haymon said that he's like
in an Australian street fight, and then Roman just goes, ah, right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Yeah, he just doesn't care. It's an a region street fight,
like he.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
The way that Roman responded to it was almost like
the way that the way that Cody gets way to
gulp in his feelings, where he's just like, oh, well,
I'd be stretched to my limit beyond all Like Roman
just goes, eh, yeah, you're gonna face this behemos in

(01:03:23):
a crazy fight, and he's just well, you know, I
guess that's what. When when's that Saturday? Yeah? Shit, all right, God,
I gotta do some laundry before we go.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Dan says when he was hyping and when when Paul
was hyping, and I thought it was going to be
an ambulance match, like he had with Stroman. That was
my first thought too, was it was going to be
something outdoors. But I mean I was expecting. I wasn't
even sure if it was going to be like an
ambulance match or something. I figured it was just going
to be an outdoor fight or whatever, but just just

(01:03:54):
the premise of being an Australian street fight, like he
couldn't say a Perthian street fight or something. Yeah, it's
gonna be a Pervian street fight. How about even.

Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Like a down under the destruction fucking something.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
A downstreet fight. I don't know, Joe hud.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
A down street fight. Oh no, he's down the street
and he's all the way down. He just throws a
fucking kendo stick. He's just like, I don't know, he's
almost near you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
People liked the promo for what it was. I thought
it was corny as shit. I like Bronson, I really do.
I do want to see the match, but yeah, I
don't know. Well, we'll get to the Crown Jewel stuff.
But that was one of the promos that happened in
the night. One of the other promos that happened in
the night that was of note was the CM punk

(01:04:48):
La Knight j Jimmy Exchange.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Right, Jigolheimerschmidt. Yeah, so, boy are we Are we fully
aware of this point of what this company thinks about La?
And the answer is not terribly much.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Because I was actually surprised they even allowed him to
talk about Seth Rollins. I really was. After last week,
I thought his time with Seth was done and he's
going back to SmackDown like That's what I was feeling.
So the fact that they gave him see Him Punk
yesterday was a positive for me because I'm like, Wow,
They're letting him actually talk about Seth Rollins. Wow, what

(01:05:24):
a big deal for La Knight. Man. He could write
this down and tell his kids about that one promo
he was able to give about Seth Rollins to see
Him Punk.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Before immediately getting kicked in the fucking face, and that
was that was it. Which to some extent, and this
is where it's a huge problem with La Knight. I'm
talking about this like they're going to take this man seriously. Ever,
I'm shocked that they even bother. It's so confusing to
me because very clearly they don't want to push him.

(01:05:56):
Very clearly they don't want to give him title matches
very clearly. They don't give a fuck. But the he's
out there and he's talking and then like Jay kicks him,
and Punk's like, well, yeah, he was being fucking annoying.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Yeah, And I'm like, well, bunk.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
And Punk's not wrong in that moment either, Like Punk
already looked at him and was just like, yeah, what
are we doing here? Like you could just tell, like
even in his character, he's like what what's this guy doing?
Like fucking kind of fuck off? Go away? And then
the kick happens. He's like, well, he was annoying, and
I'm like, so what is he then? Because so unless
La Night at this point comes out on Friday or

(01:06:33):
I don't know, Saturday for brunch or whatever and just
dog walks Jay just beats the fucking dog shit out
of him, then what was the point of any of.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
That there are he was supplotting these seeds that Jay
is a problem. They had that weird walk along promo
with Roman where Roman is giving him advice and Jay's
kind of like, go fuck yourself, dude, and just walks off,
and he asked Jimmy what's the problem with him? And
Jim's like, you know, reasons like it's and then the

(01:07:05):
pull apart thing that happened even with that promo with
l A. Knight and stuff where Jim is in the
middle of Jay and Punk and trying to keep them separated,
and j fucking kicks Punk and then Jim has to
kick fucking Punk, and right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Well that was I should point that out too. Punk
did say at one point he was like, tonight, he goes, oh,
or you know, after you got kicked. He's like, well,
he doesn't have a point. He did beats ass or whatever,
and it's like that was sort of the uh, that
was sort of like the softening blow of yeah, we're
not gonna completely try to make this guy look like
a fucking dead dog.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
He said, not gonna. She will have something to do
with this. No, Rikishi is actually too busy complaining about
how Jacob Fatu is being mistreated in this company.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Yeah, it's it's it's a horror for this guy was
in a fucking prison, right he was in literally prison,
like what four years ago, and now he's making six
figures fine all over the world on a visa that's
only provided via WWE. I'm sure you mean, I'm sure,
honest to God. And this is what drives me the

(01:08:14):
craziest of all things about Rakishi when he talks about
this type of shit, is he says this stuff about
his kids, and he says the stuff about Jacob, And
I think to myself, I don't believe for a second
that these people would agree. I don't think Jacob Fatu
is sitting there going, man, I'm being fucking reil room, dude,
you fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Blew it up a while ago. Rakeshi's just working the internet.
He's just pissing people off to get clicks. Yeah, oh
my god, what crazy shit did RAKESHI say this week?
What do you mean ww is holding Jacob Fatu back?

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
It's I know, I love the idea of that even
being a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
You know what it is else? I mean, come on, yeah,
and most of these old timers, right, that's that's literally
what the deal is not all. You know, there are
people like even Richard's that genuinely seems like they care,
and there's others too, but a lot of them are
there just to make a couple of headlines piss everybody else.
I mean, dude, what was the last time we talked
about Kevin Nash's podcast when we talked about Raquel and

(01:09:13):
he said, hey, Raquel, start working like a big person
because you're a big person. And she did and everybody
gave him roses for that and it was great, and
we that was how many months ago? Six months ago,
So it's been six months since he made headlines. So
this week he had to talk about, oh man, I'm
not receiving a million dollars in my royalty checks anymore,
Like come on, man, that's what these guys do. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
There is this point too where some of these older guys,
some of the older wrestling personalities that are doing these
podcasts and yes, I hate to I hate to be
one of the aw people that goes, oh well, they're
just saying that because they're trying to get clicks, or
they're just saying that because of the.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Are to be a fan of any WWE or AID.
You don't have to be established with your own flag
to realize a lot of all this Undertaker shit, all
this drama with Taker and Michelle is just making them
more money, like right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
And also, let's not kill ourselves here in this situation,
the Undertaker and Michelle McCool thing. This was an instance
of WWE and TKO not reading the room or not
understanding wrestling fans well enough to know that. They just
thought that people would be like sucking Undertaker's toes just

(01:10:32):
at the idea of him having a podcast like that
would just be enough, you know, like, oh my god,
what's he doing talking about? I don't think that was
it recipes with his wife, Oh this is awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
I think it was kind of in reverse. I think,
to be fair to the Undertaker, for whatever it's worth,
I think when Undertaker was first doing the talk circuit,
if you recall, he was doing a lot of religious stuff.
He was doing all these like Seventh Nation or whatever,
all these other podcasts talking about his time in wrestling
and finding Jesus and all of this, and I think

(01:11:08):
somebody in WWE said, can you just talk about wrestling?
Would you like to get paid to talk about wrestling instead?
And I think that was the lure they didn't I think, honestly,
and I don't mean to put on a conspiracy hat.
WWE didn't like him talking about his religious beliefs constantly
openly like that because they wanted to keep the allure

(01:11:29):
of the Undertaker character, because it still makes WWE money
in royalties, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
And it doesn't. And I think the Undertaker's got to
notice some extent unless he wants to go become church
guy exclusively, right, it's not going to make him money.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Easy, right. But so I think that's what we did was, hey, look,
you know, we'll help you with your platform. You got
your own call hosts and stuff. Let's do something with that.
I think ultimately on that route, WWE saw more money
in recap uturing Mark and Michelle underneath their banner in
order to make money off of them. Then to let

(01:12:06):
him out there and talk about Jesus every week, I
think it was more of a I think it was
a financial move for WWE and Undertaker more so than
it was Taker needed to get out there and tell
his story, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Right, well, I mean the Taker at this point, and
I know that this pisses people off, but I just
even watching him do the Saddi thing, it's just like,
I'm over I'm over it now. At this point. He's
an old man. He's an old man that's a biker
and he did all he talked all this shit for

(01:12:40):
years and years about being like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
I'm down with the devil, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
And it's like, and by the way, that doesn't mean
like I get it, you're a character or whatever. But
watching him be like mister businessman on a stage and
be like, oh, you're excellency and you're so blah blah blah,
I'm starting to feel the way that I feel about
those old guys doing it the same way that I
feel about the comics that are millionaires going and doing

(01:13:08):
the Saudi shit, you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
Know, like that's the dollar and you're a cheap, poor yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Right, And I get to some extent like this is
where you know, I can not necessarily bo completely, but
I do understand to a point of if you're what's
his name at Grayson Waller, right, Grayson Waller can't exactly
take a take a stand and be like I'm not

(01:13:35):
gonna go do this. I don't need the money. I
don't need and it's like, no, the motherfucker needs his money.
He's in his thirties, he's obviously given his life to
being involved in wrestling. It's a little too late for
him to leave and go learn to be an electrician
or something, you know, so he's got to take the
Saudi blood money, and it's gonna be what it's gonna be.
But when you're someone that has ten twenty thirty fifty

(01:13:58):
million dollars in the bank and you're still like tap
dancing tap dancing, tap dancing, it's like, what's the point
of being rich? Like that, I think is what confuses
me too, where it almost feels like is it that
level of a sickness because where me and you will
never be that rich? But like is that what it is?
Where you just it's never enough? Is that what it becomes?

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Yeah, of course that's why this whole TKO thing is
a complete anomallyde to me, because it's either you guys
want to continue making lots of money by trying to
squeeze WWE until it's dead, or are you going to
try to continue making lots of money by making WWE interesting?
So it's an investment and people keep coming back because
they want more, you know what I mean. Like it's

(01:14:41):
it's a weird thing of lazy investors versus you know,
power hungry investors. That's with the podcast, that's with all
the money too, thout Joe. That the reason they're doing it,
the reason the wrestlers are continuing to go over there
is because either they need to or because they like
the feel of money under the mattress.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
They just want more and more and more and more,
which is just it's weird. And like, I'm sure people
would probably also bring up somebody like Punk. They'd be like, oh, well,
you know, Punk decided to start going over there, and
I'm like, I think Punk was just playing good boy
because he's trying to stay in graces of the company.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
He gave you a shoutout this week too. I don't
know if you knew that or not. Oh no, what yeah,
he shouted out Joe Numbers and no he said he
you know much love to the great the his excellency
Joe Numbers and all the teachers during teachers Week.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
So oh okay, well you know what, it's it's it's nice.
I'm glad that he said that. Yeah, yeah, and to
all of you will never own homes. So that's about news.
But at least people, you know, hey, you know what though,
maybe get a free muffin. Maybe get a free.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Muffin, extra muff.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Get free box of pencils from Staples.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
We also had who else do we have? We had
Lyra Valkyria versus Roxane Perez.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Yeah, that was there was ass I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
I mean that was the match you liked because I
know you like the Bailey now.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, no no, this wasn't a
Bailey regular ass Bailey match. But you know, you know
you've done bad And I saw Damn posted this and
he was right on the money with this. You know
you've done bad when Maxine dupre looks like a charismatic
powerhouse next to you. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Yeah, I disagreed with that too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Oh like, did okay, was the match that Maxine had
any good? No? Not really?

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Bre the people into it, Yeah, yeah, they were along
with it. They were along for the ride. But I
think that's also because.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
They now because there's no investment. They were only along
with it because there's no investment in Maxine Dupree. Nobody
there believes even though she won.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
The like Becky though, dude, they actually right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Which is to the to the detriment of Becky, but
to the positive of Maxine. Maxine winning the match via
count out because Becky was too busy talking about herself
on the table is apropos to the Becky character. That
whole thing wasn't there to do shit for Maxine. That
whole match that she lost built up Becky's character. Oh look,

(01:17:27):
Becky is so disillusioned in her own ego that she
forgets that she's in the middle of a match and
she only has ten seconds to get back in the ring.
She's so unaware due to her own belief in how
great she is, she forgets the rules of a fucking
wrestling match. That whole thing had nothing to do with

(01:17:47):
Maxine and more to do with Becky Lynch. Because later
on in the night we saw the Seth promo or
black thereof where Becky just prattles on for like three
minutes straight about how insane it was that Maxine beat
her and blah blah blah, doesn't she know who I am?
And Seth just sitting there not saying a word yet
again another development in his character. So basically we've learned

(01:18:11):
that when Becky bitches, Seth just sits there with his
head down and listens it doesn't say a word. And
when fucking Becky left the room, all of a sudden,
he became you know, pull what happens if I lose?
In pert Australia. What happens if Cody beats me and
Paul's like, you want me to give it to you straight?
You lose the locker room, you lose your friends, nobody

(01:18:33):
respects your your wife starts blowing another.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Dude putting this fucking loser over. That's the problem, right,
They're just completely mailing that in And dude, I've really
not that I haven't been sick of this for years now,
but this like forced relevancy and forced like historical value
of Seth rollins is just exhausting at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
But that's that's what I'm saying, was you actually got
to watch the roots of the tree. Maxine winning caused
Becky the loss because of her own ego. That ego
went into her dressing room to bitch at her husband
and tell him all the things that were going wrong.

(01:19:21):
Seth then in turn took her angst and directed it
towards Paul Hayman, to which Paul Hayman laid it flat
on the line, basically saying that this matches everything for
you in Perth, like it's all to fuel Seth, all
of it. Maxine winning means that Seth wins at fucking

(01:19:44):
Crown Jewel.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
I know it's all goes back to this one guy
that I just I don't get it. And it's just
such a reminder to be too where somebody put that
in a set, this bitch poossy, Like, can we please
how badly do we need Gunther on the show at
this point?

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Jesus, Oh, don't worry about christ. We we've already figured
it out. Apparently the internet's already running with it. Gun
there will be John Cena's last opponent.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Oh well, you know what if that's if that's true,
I'm not upset about that. I'm not mad at that
by the way, that there is no better wrestling option.
If you if we'd like to call it that, then
that happening you have, you know, just a heel's heel,
you know, Gunther, mister stretch him, put him on the mat,

(01:20:34):
no frills kind of guy. And John Cena, who is uh,
you know, he's the Hulkster. I hate to say it,
but you know what I'm saying. Yeah, well, I mean
he is the Undertaker in the sense that he is
a whore for no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
I kind of mean it in the sense of more
of an undertaker brock thing where I think when Gunther
destroys John Cena, he's going to carry that banner around.
It's a title like brock lesnar did for years. I
was the one in sixteen and one, and like, you know,
I think Hunter is going to be that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
And I retired the greatest of all time? You know
what that makes me? Then? Like, yeah, which to me,
I'll take that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Over real type of character too, to do that shit exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
And honestly, I'll take that over Baron KORbin retiring Kurt
Angle any fucking day.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:27):
Of course I'm not said about. I hope that's true.
I hope that's real. Yeah, that's it comes to fruition. Unfortunately,
would you be surprised if it was fucking Seth?

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
Why did you just misschie domas I I know, I
hate to tell you, but that's off.

Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
I can be the greatest if I beat him, then.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Yeah, wow, I could see that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
They really could. They would do it. They would do
it and put him over and oh god, fucking shoot
me in the face.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
So it's a match we haven't gotten to. Oh, there's
a couple of matches we didn't get to. Wet we
didn't get to the uh Aj Styles, Dragon Lee Penta
versus Judgment Day match, which was okay, find fun match.
Thought it was interesting that Aj Styles was finally allowed
to build up a match with him and John Cena.
They they finally gave him thirty seconds to talk about

(01:22:20):
the match, saying, we don't need a story, We're just
gonna go out there and have a match, And I
was like, okay, I mean, it would have been nice
if they gave you, like a proper promo time or something,
but yeah, no, I mean grabbing the microphone after five
ten minutes of you wrestling, as I guess that works. Hey,
well by fucking ESPN everybody like you know, by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
I mean, the pacing of the show is still exactly
what it is. I sent you guys a message earlier
where I was washing back raw and it was quite
literally from the start of the show until Roman said
a word was ten minutes. I mean, folks, episodes of
Seinfeld in The Simpsons were twenty eight minutes long, right,

(01:23:08):
and Jen ten minutes before this guy raises a microphone
to his face. It's like, guys, there's milk in it,
and then there's whatever this is like, move it the
fuck along out a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
I think this is the problem with the production. It's
not the production that happens itself. I think a lot
of the production pieces that they do week to week
are gorgeous. I don't think they should be week to week.
We don't need a full recap with music video and
a fucking solo with Slash playing in the background every
time a fucking angle happens from week to week. But

(01:23:43):
Netflix now relies on that. It's almost as if you
can scrub off the first ten minutes because you know
it's going to be two things. It's going to be
music videos talking about what happened last week and people
walking for no reason. Dude. They showed they opened it
up with seem Punk coming in and walking and see
them Punk waves to the wall. He's just waving at

(01:24:08):
the fucking wall. He's tipping his hat to the wall
and I'm like, there's nobody there.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Good day wall.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
They have Lyra Valkyria appearing out of thin air, standing
there and then just walking with her fucking suitcase, Like,
are you supposed to be looking like you're coming into work,
because that's not it. You're just standing there and then
you're walking. It's just look, I get like the b
roll kind of shit, but can we at least make

(01:24:37):
it look real. I mean, see them punk waving to
a wall.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Yeah, they're going for that NFL field, But you're right,
it doesn't feel fucking real at any capacity.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
And the majority how it's fine. Let them start to
walk and then you film, that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
And I don't like have them standing nexstin. Do you
know what's amazing really with the way that we're discussing
this as if these people don't actually walk into the building, right,
Why don't you just send a text message that says, hey,
we're fifteen minutes out. Hey, we're almost there. My fucking

(01:25:21):
my driver, I'm getting dropped off my uber, the rental car,
whatever the fuck, and then you just send the cameraman
out to just film.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Even if all you want to do was them standing there,
do it on the ramp where they're buy the car,
because then it makes sense for them to stand there
or go get their suit, you know what I mean, Like,
that's a situation where somebody's standing there and closing their
door makes nobody's jumping out of the car and kicking
the fucking door closed and running in, you know, like
it's just it's simple mechanics. It's just I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
It's one of those oh my god, I'm trying to
remember what it was, where it'd be like where they
would do like an advertisement for whatever, like in somebody's kitchen, yeah,
you know, and then pretend like the guy's actually like
cutting a carrot, and then he looks up and he's like, oh,
this is me. He's just cutting a carrot.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Hello, every day folks at home. Yeah, yeah, Hey, have you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Ever wondered how you could save money on your car insurance?
I'm like, dude, you're you're not well, you're cutting a
carrot right now. I don't know what that has to
do with car insurance, but sure, like yeah, Like it's
crazy to me that they can't even find a way
to just make or it's.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
Lazing or what it is. It's just lazy. It's it's
not that people don't notice this. There's no way that
I'm noticing this shit. You're noticing this shit. And WWE's
production team isn't noticing this shit. Because even if they
filmed it like that, Joe, all they had to do
was cut out two point two seconds of footage, and

(01:26:52):
it would have looked like Lyra was walking or when
Sampunk was waving at the wall. Two point two seconds
would have eliminated that likes.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Just by the way they had to do something instead
of just like running match graphics or putting it up
on the Titan Tron or whatever they're calling it at
this point and saying like these are the matches for
Tonight to just try to get the pop out of
the people they now because during the course of a
show they create three matches on the fly via back

(01:27:21):
interviews to just fill time to what was.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
It fucking Joe Feicini or whatever. It's like, whoa breaking news? Wade,
We've got We've got Kyrie versus EO Sky Tonight And
like Wade was in the middle of a sentence, it
was just Joe Tessatories, like whoa emergency news? Like he's
plugged in, like he was getting a text messager. It

(01:27:45):
was in his ear. I just I liked the.

Speaker 2 (01:27:47):
Idea of almost called him Adam Page and Adam Cole.
I help them every atom wow, other than the atom
he is, Oh my good well. I love the idea
of old GM Adam like show it up to the
show and then being like, what's in the car tonight?
He's like, fuck, someone's gotta come bitch to me about

(01:28:08):
something I guess I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
And I love that it's always a problem, right, every
time they address fucking peers, he's like, oh, I don't
know if we've got room for that, Well, we'll figure
it out.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
And it's like, dude, yeah, dude, half the show's empty.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
It's ten minutes till somebody talks on this fucking thing.
Figure out a match.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
I love the idea that his whole job is just
sitting around waiting for someone to get mad, right, right,
someone's just like he's just sitting there and he's like
drinking a coffee and he's like three two, someone comes in,
I haven't gotten a title shot and fucking and he's like, there,
it is all right, I'm my work is done.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
His whole job is to pretend to look busy. He's
you know what, He's got the ultimate, which is even
more fucked up, and it's more meta because he's a
guy who exists solely at the behest of wrestlers that
need matches, but he's pretending to be a wrestling gm

(01:29:10):
that gives people me, oh my, it is like multi
layered here. It's very meta, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
Like it's just I love the idea of him being
in the room right and somebody coming in and being
like I need to have this masch tonight and him
looking down and be like, what.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
Do you think I do in here? All right? Adam,
here's experience your character on screen right now. Is you're
going to look stressed out and busy like something is
going to happen. That's what you need to do.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Are you doing anything? Absolutely not perfect? Not a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
We're all footage.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
You know what would be a really fucking funny thing
for someone to just make, you know what? He should
sell this? Adam Pierce should make this and auction it
off for some charity right where. He should make a
fake booking sheet of all the matches and he's gonna
have until someone came in and yelled at him. He's like,

(01:30:12):
He's like, let me tell you, man, I was gonna
put you guys, wonder where all these wrestlers were. I
wanted you to put them on the show. He wasn't me,
you know right?

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
I had Triple H versus sewn Michaels tonight, but fucking
aj Styles and Penta and and Dominic Mysterio and the
guys had to have a match.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
You shoot over and it's like no, m Dr Right
and he's like yeah. He's like, man, you've been promising
me a match on Raw for three and a half years.
And he's like, people keep coming in and yelling at me.
I'm sorry, Nom, I have to keep can't you tell
Lilyra that she doesn't get a match? Broom? You know

(01:30:53):
how this works.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
All right, let's get to the final match so we
can wrap this show up. We had to see him
Punk in La Night versus the USOS, which once again,
the USOS function wonderfully together. I liked this matchup. I
liked a little back and forth the tension between CM
Punk at La Night. They all did a very good
job in this match. CM Punk winning with the gts

(01:31:18):
and then La Knight stealing Pin was a perfect final touch.
I love the fact that he was laughing his way
up the ring. CM Punk's reactions were good. It was
It was a fine match. It was a good main
event match.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
Yeah, that's fine. And honestly, the funny thing in this
in this situation is you probably could have interchanged that
on a weaker card with the six Man and people
would have been equally as happy. Yeah, I think they
would have been fine with that. Like I think that
the judgment days at that level, and you could have
had aj doitt I mean miss last week on SmackDown,

(01:31:51):
like what the fucking main event was. You could have
sent out Penta and people would have gone home happy.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
Well Penta. The rumors I'm Penta now because of an
interview that he did, is that Penta might be going
to NXT. Why.

Speaker 2 (01:32:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
Somebody asked me a question, would he go down to
NXT to work with his brother or whatever? And he said, yeah,
I'll do anything for the company. So now all of
a sudden, people are.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Oh fu yeah right. Yeah. That's like somebody being like, hey,
would you, I don't know, go go out to eat
some time and they're like, yeah, I guess. I mean
I like food, I got to eat at.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
Some point, has diabetes. He eats at McDonald's all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Like, no, man, I know, would be like, would you
able to eat a bug?

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
You're like, I don't know me.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
Maybe they're like Penta loves eating bugs loves it. His
favorite thing is a a cucaracha. Yeah, no, I don't know, man,
It's it's fine. The show itself was fine at the
pay per view. That's going to start at eight o'clock
in the morning, So what do we what do we
want to do for that? Are we just gonna hang out,

(01:33:01):
eat some pancakes? Watch?

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
Yeah, I'm gonna watch the fucking thing. We'll do the
show right afterwards. Fuck, yeah, it's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
Should we what do you think? Should we have some
sort of brunch bagel theme? What do we should we
go with here?

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
Theme? What kind of theme you want for eight o'clock
in the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
Well, if we put the if we make if we
put the fucking YouTube thing up, maybe we have Australia.
But then we also put like some breakfast food you know, yeah,
sure food?

Speaker 1 (01:33:28):
Do you put as much breakfast food on your camera
as you want to? Some pancakes or something like gons?
Do get some eggs and some bacon fowls. What are
Australians eat for breakfast? Anybody know what they eat for breakfast?
I thought they eat bugs? Don't they eat bugs for breakfast?

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
Cucaracha? Is that what they have? For breakfast. Well, I
don't know what do they eat?

Speaker 3 (01:33:47):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
Uh, they eat bacon.

Speaker 1 (01:33:50):
No, they eat eggs and sausage and bacon.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
They probably like are they a sausage country where they
eat like weird looking fucking sausages?

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
I have vege, might vegemite their English muffins.

Speaker 2 (01:34:01):
Yeah, you know what, anybody have you had that ship before?
It's pretty it's pretty gross, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:34:08):
They make this thing called what is it called croons
or some shit like that, and it's like a vegemite
vitamin that we take. Now, so the little woman is
it's croons or something? I forgot what the sounds like
a slur? Oh it may as well because it tastes
like an asshole. But yeah, it's like it. She takes
it with their vitamins, and now she forces me to

(01:34:28):
take it with my vitamins. And I'll be honest to you,
that vegemite shit. All it does is make me crap,
That's all it does. It's stronger than coffee, It's stronger
than mountain dew, it's stronger than X slax. You take
a handful of these things is vegemite, and you just
shit your brains out.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
Well, yeah, I didn't know Australians had it like that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:48):
I gotta take it down onto healthy eye. That's just
they got.

Speaker 2 (01:34:52):
Their own version of the Montezuma's revenge.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
Sure, I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
I don't know who they have.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
I don't know that vegemite stuff goes hard though. But yeah,
we'll be here in the morning after the show. We'll
do it live on you Two. We'll do it live
through discord as well. We'll try that and of course
Thursday we've got the regular show. And yeah, much love
to Spinball Media, much love to Lou and Jeff who
are finishing up. I think tonight they'll be finishing up
the last episode, the final episode of season two of LFG.

(01:35:19):
I'm sure a lot of people have already been spoiled,
but it'll be interesting to hear Jeff and Lou's take
on it. I'm looking forward to seeing what she thinks
of Michelle McCool picks. And yeah, yeah, I mean we
got other stuff to talk about too. What's his name?
Finally got charged? Oh yeah, he finally got charged, so
his actual charges came out. What else we got Jimmy

(01:35:41):
wang Yang praising Chris Benoit, which is having people in
a fucking uproar.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
You know whoa people are? Do you know how funny
it is to me? Yeah, in the Year of Our
Lord twenty twenty five, people have smoke for Jimmy Wang Gang.

Speaker 1 (01:35:58):
Yeah, well, I mean he was talking about Chris benwas
so eight. I know, yeah, no, no, I was. I
was gonna say. I found the crispnwa was DVDs brand
new in Japan too, and I'm thinking about buying those
for people.

Speaker 2 (01:36:13):
Oh the oh, the old classic, the best of him
in Japan is.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
That No, no, no, his WWE documentary, the one that
they stop selling, you know, right after the incident. They
have brand new ones still in Japan for like three
dollars each, and they're the original from where I'm purchasing
it from. I don't know why all of those aren't gone,
But in a world where WWE discontinued DVDs what six

(01:36:39):
years ago, now five years ago, feels like are they
sell brand new Crispin WAD DVDs? So I'm thinking about
picking up a couple of those and sending them out
some friends too.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
So yeah, you think they're like, listen, these people, fuck
Lady Pillows. I think we can sell them to murder
a DVDs.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
Oh my god, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
Yes, yeah, I don't make the rules. I just you know.
Pay attention to the mile.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
Check out Phil Marx Pro wrestled Times. Much love to
the Tuny Talk Wrestling Guys. Check them out. Should have
another show tonight and yeah we'll be back Thursday. Check
out the Patreons. Check out the YouTube piece.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
MMM Wrestling Soup mother Fuckers. Hey guys, if you want
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