AN EPIC RAW or FANTASY BOOKING FROM HELL (Wrestling Soup 12.2.25)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Taking a nice, great big War Games before the show.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's really funny to me that it seems like a
lot of people hated that fucking pay per view more
than I did. And I'm supposed to be the guy
that hates everything. Isn't that funny?

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yeah, but that's why the goalposts keep moving.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
I'm just like seeing people they're like, well, I mean,
for example, GD was like that was that women's match
was the worst? I'm like, it wasn't that fucking bad?
What do you talking? Yeah? Is it? Is it a
life changing?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Like?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Oh man, that was the fucking wrestling world needs to
be on notice. It's like, no, but was it god awful?

Speaker 1 (00:44):
I fucking think the problem is it's hard to judge
the slop, right, So when you're talking about like a
War Games match, unless it's something like stupendous or fucking
life changing, it's a slop match. It's a it's a battle,
it's it's how do you create that. There's so many

(01:04):
people involved, how do you fucking grate it like a
regular wrestling match? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:10):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, there's too moving parts.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, well, this is also the problem with and you know,
people could be like, well, you're just like full circle
bringing it back to fucking blaming somebody else for it.
But it's like, yeah, this is what happens when you
have like high spots smut like aw all the time,
because then people their brains start to think like, oh, well,

(01:34):
that's what wrestling matches are supposed to be. Like yeah,
and by the way, WWE does themselves no favors by
being like war games, it's a war And I'm like,
it's not a war. It's just a fucking match, you
know what I mean. Yeah, nobody's bleeding, nobody's getting fucking mangled.

(01:56):
It's just a fucking match. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
That's the problem is the hype machine is ahead of
the horse, you know what I mean, The card is
before the horse in this. If WWE actually focused more
on war games and well, I saw a lot of
people even in the YouTube comments and stuff too, saying that, look,
I wish it was the old school Survivor series. Hey
don't we all, but they just.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Oh, Survivor series would have been so much better than this, honestly,
right two.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
But that's the problem is it's easier for them to
just throw this together and give it a catchy name.
And then oh, look they're in a cage. It is
they're real Now that it's in a cage, do they
do they do anything with the cage. They don't do
anything with the cage other than climb into it. But
but there's a cage there.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
It's there. Poke it with a stick.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Like, fuck, dude, you really want to impress me, bring
back the blue cage. Do something with that.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Wow, you really want to impress me. Have somebody make
them do a coherent eight person match like you just
said there. And in a way, it's really funny that
we almost broke it down to where we go. Well,
I mean the creative we blame them, Oh the writers,
Oh the ship's all ai blah blah blah, whatever the

(03:14):
fuck it's gonna be. What are these agents doing? Are
they just sitting around fucking looking at their assholes in
a hand mirror all day? What are these people doing?

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Because it's Jason Jordan.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Or Jason Jordan shouldn't and if full fucking stop, why
is that kid a fucking agent on a pro wrestling show.
He wrestled for like four years. I mean, when your
dad is Kurt Angle, dude, come on, that's a good point.
That nepotism, right, sure, that k fab nepotism he's got
going on. Yeah no, I'm fucking sorry, dude. There's this

(03:50):
part of me where it's like, yeah, Jason Jordan is
a fucking road agent, and I'm like, did he even
have a hundred wrestling matches?

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah? No, you're not.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
What are we talking about here? Like that's that is
at the point of silliness. That's like, if we were
to take no, I mean, all right, that's that's almost
too mean. I was gonna be like, it's like, if
we were to take it old Bitti's there in a
w oh.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
I think it's gonna say Nicki bell I was gonna.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Who Nicky Beller too. Honestly, well, at least Nicky Bella
had Nicky Beller probably had more matches than Jason Jordan.
That's not saying she was better than him, but I mean,
thank god, now, like what and I get it. It's
really sad the dude's career was got short.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Because oh yeah no, but that has nothing to do
with his current career, right, Like, nobody's shipping on Jason
Jordan in the ring. He was great. He was fucking great.
But yeah, I guess that's different than you know, what
is it teaching? You know, like it's just I don't.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Know, right, he's not in a position where he shouldn't
be doing he and I'm not like heaping it all
on him obviously, if anything.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Like the random name out of the head, I don't
know if Jason Jordan actually put that together. I just
threw his name out there as one of the agents.
I do we know who the agent was in that
women's war game?

Speaker 2 (05:04):
No? Well, but this is it? Miss is like it
shouldn't be down to even just one guy. This should
be on a lot of them, because why is this
shit not good?

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Like?

Speaker 2 (05:16):
What that is your one fucking job just to sit
around and put together these matches and explain to them
why they're doing what they're supposed to be doing. And yeah,
I get it. Sometimes you get some dead dogs and
you get some people where you're like, okay, well what
am I going to do to try to get the
best out of these people? And that is challenging, right,
but yeah, to sit down and okay it used to

(05:38):
be that people. Oh my god, I'm really being an
old time here, Jesus Christ. Should we do an intro.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Sure, I mean I got a little bit.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I'm gonna go on and on about this, miss, I
can go on and on about it.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
I got a little bit longer of an intro, and
it's more respective of this week's raw review. But here,
just stay with us.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, I'm here. I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
How are you feeling after tonight's loss to.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Jay Jay?

Speaker 3 (06:04):
I know you're on your way out, but at least
get your thoughts on the mystery man at Survivor series.
Do you know anything new?

Speaker 2 (06:13):
J Man?

Speaker 3 (06:13):
It's me What about brown Breaker? Do you have any
thoughts on that? He just became the number one contender?
It's the world heavyweight championship.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Jackie, I don't give a damn by no brawn breaker
vision right now, A lot of people in my head
they need to get out.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
I know. The only person to blame is a man
looking back in the mirror. That's what I know, Jackie.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
You know what? You know what? Matter of fact?

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Romans said it best them titles look best on his shoulders,
not mine.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Let us one.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Mm hmmm, ye, little blues, little blues. I think he's
filling the blues, Little jay Us blues.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Let us one man, I wonder if he's gonna wonder
if he's gonna drink something.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
I'm characteristic, Thomas, He's Joe E. Numbers Man.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Yeah, just I'm over here feeling jay us is pain. Man.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Oh man, I swear to god, he was crying right there,
and I'm like, wow, that's on point.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Something new for him to be overly emotional.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
Yeah, he's kicking the ring and this man more swing
we now, oh, like a crash out, Like that's that's
the big the big turn for jay Ussel.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
He's gonna start crashing out.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Ah And by the way, like it's just it goes
to show you how pathetically they just keep going back, like,
don't forget, don't forget Roman reigns. Don't forget he's attached
to Roman reigns. Maybe Roman was right, man, Yeah, maybe
Roman was right.

Speaker 6 (08:32):
Gee.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Maybe I'm just like, maybe I'm just not as good
as Roman. G God shot the fuck ah h man.

Speaker 7 (08:44):
Maybe maybe Roman hit a point many.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
I'm just not Maybe I'm just not cut up for
this ge again again again four letters.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
What we're tears.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
I know it's fine, but I think yes, one word
fa let us she.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
God, damn dude, that was the most pathetic thing ever, right, Like,
I mean this guy was being groomed. He was groomed,
he was a champion, like he was supposed to be
the main event guy. And it's like, man, if you're
a fan of jay Usseo, how did you watch that
and not just go ugh, just completely disgusted with the

(09:32):
direction that they're putting this guy in. I don't know
what else they're supposed to do with him, but this
I agreed with you. I totally agree with you, especially
in hindsight. Putting him back with his brother is fine.
But this is the fucking rubber stamp, the fired stamp
on his singles career, is it not?

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, well it's already gone on too long. I mean
this bush was just I get it. The T shirts
and the entrance, and it's like, well, guess what two
guys can do this entrance together. That's a good idea.
Why don't we have two guys do the entrance?

Speaker 1 (10:10):
I mean it makes sense, yeah, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Okay? And I get it. In the song, he's like,
it's just me oos and it's just like, well, okay.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
It's just us. Look I fixed, it's just us.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
It's just us. Oo's day one ish perfect.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Wow, it's crazy. Look at that ship. Adding my creative
two cents. Thank you very much, everybody, I appreciate.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, the funny thing is this, I think Anna might
have a point. I think he needs to go get
a dui because it seems like every time he has
an infraction, that's when they push him again. So maybe
that's what they gotta do.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Oh yeah, maybe this time he could do it in character. No, no, officer,
I'm drinking and driving for my job.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Oh okay, well you know, officer, Kate dame.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
Dude, officer, don't let the mise arks and I'm on
my dreams inking.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Fucking who gives two ships? Honest to fucking god, I.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Mean that awful dude so bad I feel I genuinely
feel bad because at some point he read this and
he's like, you guys want me to do what.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I love it. I like the idea of yeah, the
opposite run back by arrests. That's the thing with his
hands in the fucking with the hand behind his bad
twirl it it's just me oose when the tube, it's

(11:49):
just me use. I'm just the dude, It's just me use. Yeah,
like it's fucking done. It's done.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, Like this really is fucking too Stone on that
singles career. That's it, that's it. What do you do?
What do you do? After this? Gunther and La Knight
have gone on? Obviously we're gonna see that on Friday.
That's the big the finals match of your time is
now events, tournament whatever, fucking yeah, whatever it's called. Right,

(12:21):
he's out, and it's like, fine, it's fine, it's fine.
I'm okay with it, jay Us.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
He is genuinely surprised. I thought that they were still
gonna put him in the finals. I really didn't.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
I mean, it wouldn't have surprised me. Honestly, if that
came out completely differently, it wouldn't have surprised me.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
So so this is where I look at it, though,
and I go, okay, well, you know they're not just
going to let this die a thousand deaths obviously, Like
he's going to be right back to showing up with
the poopy face and people running up to him and going, Jay,
why the poopy face. He's gonna be like, I got
a poopy face, yo, I got poopy face on real

(13:00):
g Like, it's not like that's just gonna be the
end of it, and we're not gonna see Jay.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Gonna be Roman time again. It's gonna be Roman. You
came back to the big dog. The big dog welcomes
you back into the family. It's it's gonna be one
of those. I think they're gonna try to reform what
the bloodline once was based on the fact of Jay's
shitty singles run.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I think that's what it is, and or gonna have
him kick kick Roman in the balls and have it
be like, oh, it's your fault. G Are they gonna
do no?

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Because she was giving him props about the whole I
don't know if those props, but I still think that
they want Roman to be the the big dog in
the yard. Roman has lost a lot of steam, let's
be honest. And the last time he had that steam
was when he had Jimmy and Jay under his thumb.
So I see that kind of reforming. I don't know

(13:54):
if that means that Solo is gonna come back into
the fold down the line Like now, I'm really looking
forward into the future, but I definitely see the USOS
and Roman kind of being a thing more regularly than not.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Maybe because You're not wrong, though, I feel like, yeah,
Roman's lost a lot of steam. It's funny what's showing
up once every two and a half months will do well.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
I mean, you can't fuck it, dude. He's got a models, gym,
shoes and shit. So yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Got important things to do. I'm doing ads for under
Armour and then getting forever pushed. Yeah. Man, Like, there's
a lot going on on this show creatively that is
fucking dog shit, and that I do completely understand that
people are making fun of it for yeah, but there
are there are bright points.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
There is because it's funny that you brought up the
under Armour thing, because I swear to God, in the
middle of the show, I saw a Maxine do pre
grunting and sweating and crying, and I'm like, is this
an under Armor fucking commercial? Because it was like focusing
more on her gear than it was her. It was
like her face and her gear. And then I heard

(14:58):
Naddy's voice in the I'm like, what the what the
fuck am I watching? And it goes through this thing
where Maxine is practicing and losing and she's training and
Naddy is is like they're showing faces of her and
this is like total Hollywood clock you know, like not
in a bad way, but it's like a lot of

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blurry focus and oh you only see her chin for
half a second, and like it's really like out of focus,
in focus, gritty, like eight milimeter film kind of thing.
And then it gets to the point where it's at
the end and Naddy's like, get the fuck out of
my ring, and Maxine's like again again, and they focus

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in on Natty and I thought the real cool moment
was just her smiling, and I'm like, oh, she's the
fucking task master. They're doing the low key legend thing
from the indies. I saw people also make mention that
this is blood sport Natty, and I'm fine with that.
I like the idea of Natty being a cruel task master.

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And the reason that Maxine dupri is going to get
better is because Natty is essentially kind of evolving the dungeon.
And I'm like, that's that's a great storyline for her.
For as many years as she's been waving the heart flag,
for as many years as she's given props to every
single angle of her family, it's like, yeah, you know

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what give her that may make her that heart, make
her in a proverbial way the next stue heart, have
her be the one that breaks women and gets them
into legend shape. And I'm like, I mean, I don't
know how far they're going to go with this. They
could totally fuck it up by next week, but the
idea has been planted. There are seeds there creatively Joe

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that I was like, oh, you know what, that could
be fun.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
And they're great on following up on these things too.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Well. That's why I said by next week it could
be like completely It actually turned into an under Armour commercial,
So I.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Don't this coulda all to have been selling hot pants.
That's how we does. They're like, oh shit, Natty, you
got something going on. She's like, yeah, sports bras on
sale for the holiday season. I want to mash them
titties and real good. When you're out there on a
jiggity drug, Daddy's got you covered literally and figuratively. No, dude,

(17:25):
I kind of feel like that's not a bad idea.
I just think that for Natty funny enough of all people,
if she wanted to go this route of like give me,
bring me your young and I would make them strong
and that's what That's what Ivy Nile should be doing
instead of this boxy shit that she's doing.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Ivy face surgery Nile, no man, No yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Ivy and Ile like walking up and being like, I
am Maddy to be in a fight now. I'm like, yeah,
let's not do that. No, thank you. I'd put Ivy
Nile and bird Girl with Natty, And I know the
Bailey thing is working for now, but I'm saying you
put those two. You have them looking, you have Natty
look at them and go, you're undersized. But I see

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something in you you are. I can make you stronger,
I can make you tougher. I can make you fucking
ready to fight. I can make you ready to kill.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
The Nile is a heel and bird Girl's a face
and Maxine Dupre makes sense because I think it's going
to be one of those things that you're eventually going
to put Natty in the ring again. And in order
to do that, I think you can tell a long
form story with Maxine Dupri. Clearly she's good at long
form stories, because I mean her entire career is a

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long form story. You can put her in that point
where Natty gets jealous or wants the title, or Maxine
Dupre finally becomes Women's Champion, then Natty makes the challenge like,
there are different levels to this that you can really
work with that doesn't take a lot of deep creative thought.
But if you start trying to put Natty in with

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two other I hate to say it, dead dogs charismatically,
it's just going to be three people that suck, right Natty,
I will say this about Maxine Duprie. I think that
charismatically the girls look and again, going all the way
back to the Otis days, there is something there. There
is a sympathy there that people have for Maxine Duprix.

(19:27):
There's a real reason why when Maxine Dupre won up
against Becky Lynch people felt that. And it wasn't because
Becky Lynch is just the greatest heel of all time.
It was because Maxine Duprix elicits an emotion out of
the fans. And if you pair that up with Natty,
you know, of course Nanny's background and the hard family
and stuff. I think that there's a long form story

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to tell here that could be fun and honestly, if
anybody deserves a real opportunity at a not cringey, fucking gimmick.
It's Natty, it really is.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
And by the way, please I hope that whoever may
hear this, please take me seriously when I say this,
do not attempt strong style tough girl Maxine dupri. Do
not do it. It will not work, it will look dumb. No.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
I think Dane's right. She has that baby deer thing.
Like even in that promo it was kind of like,
you know, I don't want to like that's how it
started off. Was she hits her back and she's on
our back and she's like, I can't do it anymore,
and Natty's like, fucking again, and then she gets up
and she does it. And then that's when Natty does
the whole get out of my ring and then the

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baby tear stands on all four of her legs and
goes again. And I'm like, I'm like, ah, it's cute,
it's adorable.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Oh well, you know what, Maybe that's the process is
they're filming these vignettes and Naddy's looking for her protege.
Clearly Maxine Dupri ain't it, And that's maybe the process.
I don't know, Maybe we're looking too much into this,
but yes, it's same exact time. No, please do not
go the route of the strong style Maxine Duprey. I

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don't want to see her doing chops in the corner.
I don't want to see her trying to choke people
call from her.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Actually, that's that's a curious question. Where do you see
Maxine Duprix in the future.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Pretty deer in the headlights like that, there's a good
analogy for that. She's a pretty girl.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
But does she fall from that or does she just
kind of stay that way?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Okay, yeah, she's not going to dude, she doesn't got
the sauce like that. And that's not a fucking insult
because clearly she's very good in this rule. But if
you look at it, like, are you ever gonna believe
her as a tough girl? Is that ever gonna strike
you where you go? Dude? Look hout, Maxine Duprix is
coming down the hallway, you know what I mean? Like

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she got to kick some ass. It's like, no, and
not everybody needs to be that, just like every dude
doesn't need to be you know, mister badass guy. It's
nice when they are and it works, but like she's
just not that. Does not work.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Maybe not a badass right, Like I'm not thinking of
stone Hold, Steve Austin. But if you were to give
a woman a fucking alignment, yeah, she would be your
lawful good, She'd be your paladin, she'd be your white
knight and shining armor. I think she's destined to be
a baby face forever. I don't want to see her
as a heel, which means that that takes that completely

(22:23):
off the table. But as far as being a weak
baby deer with I don't know if I see that
for her either. She's she's got a hell of a
size and a physique to her. It's not like she's
coming out there looking like one of these string beans
that we had during the Divas era, you know.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Not to that extent. But it's so mean. Anything I
could say from here is just not kind. She's got
made woman housewife face and it's just not tough woman
book at all. It's just I'm sorry, and I get it.

(23:00):
This is the this is the new normal. The lip fillers,
the fucking bukele surgery, whatever the ship is where they
pump the fat out of your cheeks and you look
like a fucking skeleton. Ghoul I know, I know this
is the future of what people think that is going
to look attractive, but that to me is never going
to be believable as like oh, here they're Oh they're coming, Yeah,

(23:24):
oh they're coming.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
I know them. But I think you have heroes. I
think you can have heroes without them being badasses, right, Like,
I don't think that they have to be stuck into
the three arch types of the Rock, Stone, Cold, and
the Undertaker, Like you can have other types of people
that were good, that that are good that don't necessarily
have to reach that legendary status though either, I just

(23:48):
I don't know. It's weird for me to be on
this side of it. I see her as more of
like a like a Shane Helms almost right, Like Shane
Helm's very limited, huge once upon a Time, and I
mean people have forgotten him already, but Once upon a
Time got huge reactions from the audience. He was silly,
he was a superhero. He appealed to the nerds at

(24:10):
the same time. But Maxine Duprix happens to be aesthetically
pleasing as well. So if Shane Helms was a woman,
Maxine dupre Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
I've seen a lot of men, they love black women. No,
But also, dude, remember when Shane Helms got rid of
the costume and tried to be a guy with like
a d ragon and people were like, get this fucking
guy out of here.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
I totally recognized Maxine's limitations, right, I'm not I'm not
trying to put her up on a pedestal that she
can't reach. I just think that there's something more there.
An evolution if you will, at the hands of Natty
could be fun to watch and maybe not turn her
into strong style, right, Like, when you think of that,
it's like, ah, she's not going to be a fucking monomio.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
You should have a submission artist once again. Aw bullshit, right,
this is.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
I totally agree. But the idea that Naddy could train
a woman to be a better wrestler, the idea that
Natty could break someone kind of like Grandpa, did you know? Like, Eh,
there's there's enough there that even as a wrestling fait,
you can go okay. I believe that, right.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
It's a cooler idea. And I'm sure somebody would also say, well,
Natty has all like the weird plastic surgeries and she yes, Lord,
Natty also looks like a plastic she does. Especially, she
looks like a fucking brick ship house still kind of
even in her older age. Whereas like she's a short,
stronger looking woman the muscular frame who just so happens

(25:42):
to have scary breast and plants and all the fagal
surgeries and all that other stuff. But like you could
still see like, oh she wanted to she punched somebody,
it would be way more convincing than a Maxine Dupree.
Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Of course, of course I can't until away from Natty.
I think I think Natty No pun Intended has gotten
a raw deal from WWE for the longest time. You know,
there's been some epically shit fucking gimmicks that she's had.
But I think in this role, if they really, you know,
if they fucking cater to it, I think you can

(26:18):
do something with Naddy that could be memorable. And I mean,
she's clearly at the twilight of her career, at least
as far as the in ring stuff. Why not give
her something big? Why not give her that protege, Why
not give her a lasting name?

Speaker 2 (26:31):
You know, And we got to watch Nicky Bella do
shit every week, then Naddy getting something.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Evil, Ert Nicky Bella Eva Nicky Bella. But at Triple
H said the Monday night Raw at the Desert Diamond
Arena would be ah big. It was not. It was not.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
It wasn't over That's what we call an over cell, folks.
That's a little much. Yeah. I was waiting during the
show and Mike this epic coming.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, are we going to figure out who the who
the mystery man was? No, no, no, that's not You
just know that Paul Hayman had nothing to do with it.
Joe just nothing, nothing at all.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
I'm really not invested in the vision shit at all.
I'm really not and I'm sure like May being too
cool for school. No, I just I'm not into it.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
You don't like Adam Pierce hiring all the referees to
sniff around the arena and find out everything they could
in locker rooms. I was like, oh, that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
You know what though, miss there's that Yes, silly, but
at least we didn't do what we'd do in past years,
where it'd be like the main events stadium, forty five
thousand people, some guy runs in fucks up the whole show.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Whatever, yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
At least, at least the authority figure in this moment
is not dickless.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Oh that's one thing I like, Adam Piers, dude, Adam,
Adam Peers is a fucking quest cornerstone of these shows,
trying to keep everything together. Even as a character. I
know that he's doing that as a person, but even
as a character, he does a really good job of
like tying things together. But yeah, no, totally silly. Oh hey, hey,
random referee sir. Yes, yes, hey you you work for me? Right? Yeah?

(28:18):
Can you talk to the underground because I know you refs.
You all talk to the underground, the underbelly of the
locker room, and they don't want to talk to us.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
It's not wrong. Come on, dame, fucking it up for us,
Adam with this. Yeah, we know, we talked all the
shit bags. That's our job. No, it's fun, it's funny.
And also, like I said, at least it plays into

(28:47):
the whole idea of not just like I said, Hey,
this guy just fucked up the show in front of
forty five thousand people, and we're like, well, I guess
that's what happens, right, Oh well, you know, like he
should be pissed. He should be like, hey, fucked up
the main event, you asshole. Whoever this asshole is, I'm
not happy about it. And Hayman, you fucking dick ed,
you screwed this up. You'd be like, whoa, I didn't

(29:09):
do anything. Yeah, okay, Hayman Hayman. Yeah. That's at least
more continuity than what we're used to. But that's like
I said, you know, sometimes we get these moments where
you go, ah, okay, somebody's thinking back there, and then
you get shit sandwiches and you go, all right, maybe
we should focus on the person that's thinking, because somebody

(29:30):
is clearly not doing that in any capacity. I mean,
I guess the most epic thing was, if I remember correctly,
in the first half an hour, we had a promo
that was short and it ended and a match. Yeah,
that's pretty epic for what ROSBND recently. Huh.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
It was.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
It was a real simple show, promo match, promo match,
promo match, So, I mean, it wasn't really like, you know,
derailing everything. I don't know why Triple H tried to
get everybody to believe that this was going to be epic.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Because that's nothing epic is going to happen in a
small city outside of Arizona.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
You know why it was Isaac because everything was real
uniform this week. It was. It was real simple to
the point I was like, okay.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
You know, I like the idea of somebody being like,
what happened, and it's like, everyone gets one ladleful of
mashed potatoes epic, six ounces of steak epic, so a
cup of corn epic. It's like, yeah, no, dude.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
We opened up with the the Rio Ripley and you know,
Sky promo them coming out there, and then you had
a Charlotte Flair and Bliss do the interrupt and they
do some back and forth and at the end of
it they made a match like it was. It was simple.
It was very simple, like basically ria an EO or
or challenging for the title or hinting that they wanted

(30:54):
the challenge for the titles. And Charlotte got up in
herself and Bliss was just there. You know what problem
to Bliss is she is there all right? Yeah she was. Yeah,
but even in the main events, right, Bliss was not
too prominent. Bliss wasn't too prominent. I was fine with it.
I have no problem if Bliss is going to be
the fourth woman of these four right, like, she doesn't

(31:16):
want more of that spotlight. And I'm not taking anything
away from from Charlotte or anything else like that. I
just think that if Alexa Bliss understands that she's there
to sell dolls more than she is to perform fantastic
moves in the ring, then we're all understanding.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Not fuck up the matches. Yeah, that's all we're looking
for you to do. Like, we don't fuck up the matches.
Don't be a drag. Like we're not expecting you to
add a lot, but don't be a drag.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Agreed, Agree, And let's talk about that main event. And
I'm I don't plan on doing this in order this week,
but you know that main event was.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Because because I know what the real main event of
the show was, and it wasn't this.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
No, no, should I play the intro.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Again, No, No, let me tell you. I got a
fucking little diatribe to have about a good friend of ours,
a good Austrian buddy of ours. But yeah, the actual,
I guess main event of the show technically was the women's.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Head it was and the tag match, and it felt
a lot of place too, because at that point I
was like, oh yeah, I forgot that they made this
match in the beginning of the show. And it's not
a shot on anybody involved. I just it literally felt
like a segue out because they even had Osca and
little Japanese girl up in fucking Bailey and bird girls faces.

(32:38):
So it's like the Oscar who's been the big bad
for the last fucking month or so, is now already
working a different program, and it's like, oh yeah, I forgot.
Alexa Bliss and Charlotte are fucking off with Real Ripley Neo,
and so the main event happens. I love Charlotte and
Real Ripley together. They move really fast together, to the

(33:02):
point where there was a couple of sloptastic moves. There
was that moment where Rio Ripley was trying to get
Charlotte up and she damnure threw her into the fucking
turn buckle over her shoulders. EO's standing on the top
rope like whoa dude, Like what the fuck is going on?
And then there was like a weird exchange and then
Riol's like fuck it, round two? Does it again? And

(33:24):
then they went through everything and it was fine. But yeah,
Ria and Charlotte there is a chemistry there that everything
looks like it hurts between them, and I don't know
if that's a professional courtesy on the level of like
when we enjoy Sha Miss and Drew together where they
just hit harder, But fuck, that's fun. I can watch

(33:45):
as much as people give Charlotte shit, Charlotte and Ria
Ripley are an easy fucking main event match together, and
EO EO slid in just fine. EO throws in her
shots against Charlotte. They look great, Like Charlotte works great
with other professionals, she really does.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Can I also point out this one thing about Yo too,
and it comes down to sometimes the commentators don't need
to say the things that the audience should be saying,
which is that we all appreciate Yo. At this point,
I think anybody with fucking sense realizes that she's adding
a lot to these shows. I is she gonna sell
you up a million T shirts? No, she's not a

(34:28):
fucking Stone Cold Sea Boston. She's not Cody Rhades, she's
not seeing punk but whatever, Right, But for them to
sit there and go she's the best wrestler in the world.
Right now, I'm like, don't.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Say that, right, you're putting a stigma on her.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Don't say that about her. Don't say that about the guys.
It's not even about you know. Oh, don't cat it
about it. Wait, don't girl, Like, don't say it about anybody.
This is the best wrestler in the world. Are they
supposed to be an arrogant shithead? Are they supposed to
be a heel? Are they supposed to be like punk
he's playing out when he was a heel, I'm the
best in the world. He wasn't saying that because he

(35:05):
was supposed to be nice, right, He's saying it as
a cocky fuck And that's what you have, This sweet
little Japanese girl that has these fantastic matches and is
a fucking killer. I mean, she's doing a great work.
But like, don't say it. Don't say it out loud.
Let the audience say that. What the crowd say that,

(35:26):
you know, Like, if you're putting it into people's minds,
all you're doing is setting them up to disagree.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
You know, Yeah, no, I agree. I was wondering if
that was something set through the headset, maybe unformed to
say that you know what I mean, because the headset
still exists, it's just not vincent the other end. I
don't know, man, I enjoyed it for what it was,
Like I said, again, I like Charlotte and Rio Ripley.
Then we get to the end of the match where

(35:53):
who's the first ones that came out there? That was
Osca and little Japanese Girl and then Bailey, and.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
They fucking fucked up the match, so they threw out
a match that was actually going on.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yeah, it was. It was actually fun. It was a
surprise because again I forgot that was the main event.
But yeah, then they came out there, they fucked up
the match, and then Bailey and Bird Girl come out
like three minutes later for the same because I don't
know reasons. They they had to really get the shots
in there first, and then Live Morgan in the troop,
Raquel and rock Sand come out there to play clean

(36:26):
up on Bailey and bird Girl, and I don't know,
we we just got done with war games? Are we
teasing war games this month? Because yeah, warrior games, war
war war games, even more war war were war games too.
We lived for war games.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
H dude, Yeah, are we really ending the show? On
the on the drama of the women's tag team division. Yeah,
I get it. There's a lot of good women in
the mix here. I'm not shitting on them, but you
know it's like, yeah, Ria's out there, Charlotte's out there.

(37:07):
He is all right, cool, cool, cool, I get it.
But like this feels like.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
A fucking angle that should have been played last Monday,
you know what I.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Mean, Like, yeah, that's a little It either should have
been played last Monday, mash or I'm sorry. At this point,
WWE needs to put their foot down and say to
the main event guys, the actual main event guys. Hey, guys,
you got to stay in the building to the end
of the show. Sorry, you all don't get to leave

(37:34):
at eight forty five. I know you all think you're
on Roman schedule. Because we let this dickhead fucking do
whatever he wanted to. We'll get mega pushed with this
big fucking goofy fucking what's his name but fucking daffy duck,
yes or whatever. Like, I know, we let him get
away with murder for a fucking decade. But if you're
a main event guy on the show, you gotta stay

(37:57):
in the building until eleven thirty. Okay, so that way
we don't have to send out Bailey and fucking bird
Girl to do the save in the main event. What
the fuck, dude, you know, I'm funny.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
It's funny you bring up the Roman rage shit, because
the funniest thing that happened in the night was the
Paul Hayman vision promo when he came out there and
he's like, big shout out and ups to my boy
brock Lesner, big shout out to all these people that
couldn't fucking be here tonight. And I'm just dying laughing

(38:31):
because it's just like, wow, that is a weird big
shout out to Drew A. Drew, thanks for the work
you did. Good work. We'll do business from the future, right.
I was just I don't know, it was so corny
of Paul Hayman doing the shout outs. I fucking loved it.
I should have I should have probably hated it, but
it was so cornball. And then he goes through brought

(38:52):
big Browns and read, and then he goes through the
state cop and then he gets the logan Paul, and
he just starts a little it all over logan Paul,
Dear Lord, you thought Logan Paul was mister perfect out
there on fucking Saturday, because Wow, Paul Hayman glazed the
shit out of Logan. Logan, Paul had to check his

(39:15):
fucking pants to make sure he didn't drop a juicy
Loadan there, it's just like you didn't. Paul Hayman is
absolutely hilarious. But yeah, Logan, Paul, you know, took it
and stuff like that. But the vision promo was, I mean, overall,
it was what you expected out of Paul Hayman. I
just I just laughed at the whole shout out of

(39:35):
guys who aren't here. I'm just whatever, man.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
I think in a very very important, you know, just
once again to add something to the show. When the
overall appearance of it, they gotta tell state cop he's
got to change this fucking look, man, Yeah, this is
not it. This isn't it. He looks generic as all. Fuck.

(40:01):
I'm sorry. I know people love him. I get the
you know, low expectations of what we are at wrestling
right now as far as like, but the esthetic is
fucking bland. Boys, regular haircut, late nineties, go tea and
a singlet. This is nothing. This is literally bland, like

(40:23):
you have to. This guy's got to grow his hair out,
he's got to diet, he's got to do fucking anything.
And in most times in wrestling where shit made sense,
somebody would have looked at him a hundred times and
told him the same thing. This wouldn't be something that like,
you know, oh, some asshole, fucking podcast guy that was

(40:44):
working the indies was just gonna tell him, Like, no,
he would have heard that ten thousand times. You look generic,
you look plain, like you have a tribal armband, goldberg tattoo,
and a whiffle and a go tea and you're putting
on nineties wrap around sunglasses and a bomber jacket and
people are going, that's the guy right there.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Well, can we talk about his auction?

Speaker 2 (41:08):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Can we talk about his actual promo too, because I
mean his promo was pretty much glazing up to see
him punk match that he has coming up, and he
was talking about being the real best in the world,
blah blah blah, and his voice started trembling and he
started squeaking at the end of the promo. Now I'm
just kind of like, where did your balls go? Why

(41:30):
are you squeaking like it was almost.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Kind of do the imitation of the of the uncle
and the dad's voice. I know, Oh, but it's like
it's not. If he can't sustain that voice, that rough
voice for long periods of time, don't do it. Don't
do it, or find a better pacing to do it.
I mean, once again, like I said, I feel like
sometimes I'm saying things and people will get why who

(41:55):
the fuck are you? Why are you fucking singing this?
Joe arrogant? I'm like, yes, but some of the shit
just feel so obvious.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Like cigarettes, dude, hang out with Jay Husso get some
fucking booze in you. I don't know, stay out late.
What are you going to bed at a reasonableut sensible? Stop that?
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
He's like, I woke up in the morning. It is moodie. No, no, no, you.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Choose razor blades and you fucking smoke alcohol. There you go,
just smoke out.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, you're supposed to have a beer bong, No weed,
just beer. Fuck you fuck your whole ship up, dude,
get him some Goldschlager. Let's suck him up. Yeah, I
got to make him.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
I hated the way his promo sounded. It sounded scatterbrained
a little bit, and it was almost as if he
was trying to convince himself that he was ready for
seeing Punk. And I'm like, well, this is an endearing
of a heel. We don't we don't want to think that,
oh well, maybe this guy really isn't ready for seem punk.
We should feel like when bron Breaker comes out there

(42:57):
that holy shit, this guy's going to eat to see
him punk alive. He should have been harping on his age.
He should have been harping on the fact that see
him punk is broken. And dare I say it? And
I don't know when Larry passed, but why didn't you
throw that out in the fucking promo? Or is that
too sensitive? You know? I don't like.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Well, this also pisses me off too, because I think
to myself, I go, where's Drew, where's Drue?

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Oh Drew is on a shout out right.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Oh well, thank goodness, Drew can show up when we
meet him every now and then, like this is once again,
that's perfect, the perfect time to be doing. Imagine Drew
could come out on Friday like fucking mister perfect with
the fucking single it the tights or whatever with fucking

(43:47):
Larry the dog's face pat it off with the rest.
But this is the guy to do that. And also,
by the way, like you said, I don't know you know. Furthermore,
I don't know when the dog passed away, which also
I'm I'm sorry to Punk that as a fucking nightmare.
Everyone that has pets and knows them and loves him
knows that's atrocious. But like, so, you're wrestling a guy

(44:10):
coming up and his holding is bark, bark, bark. I'm
a fucking dog park park and your.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
Dog just died right right?

Speaker 2 (44:18):
No, I mean, look, he's gotta go somewhere.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Right if they can use Eddie Guerrero's death in a
storyline twenty minutes after he barely even hit the ground, yeah,
I'm pretty sure somebody's dog is fair game right now?

Speaker 2 (44:35):
How do you not already have this written? And once
again like why you fantasy booking? But it's just some
of the chickens seems so obvious. How I somebody better
have this already written down on paper for Friday or
for Monday where bron Breaker gets in see him Punk's
face and looks him directly in the eye and goes wolf.

(44:57):
Soon there's gonna be two dogs. He looks him in
the eyes and goes and just makes them slips his
little mose. Then he lifts his leg and peace right
on him.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Does He just whiffs it out, lifts the legs, pieces
right on sealed Punk's leg.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
He just wears his Tommy Dreamers three stripes, the data
his fucking pull away fants from nineteen ninety eight. He
just whips his ding dong out and just makes peeps
right on him and goes never again. Punk. Uh No,
he needs to look him in the eyes and say,
you know, Punk, you know it's just gonna be twice
in a month that a dog breaks your heart something

(45:42):
along those lines, just real like fuck you, because yeah,
that's a real thing, and it it's like there you go, Okay,
we have a thing. But is he gonna make poopoo
peepee jokes again and you're a dummy face or whatever
the fuck? Like, I don't know. This is what pisses
me the fuck off is Now we're gonna go rite

(46:04):
the same exact way, And I'm honestly excited to talk
about the solo in gun THRT thing excited and also
a little frustrated.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Let's get into it. Let's talk a little bit of
no no, But.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I wanted to leave with the state cop thing where
I look at it and I go like, okay, fucking
let's build on that, Like you need to be wrestling
people that are I don't know, I don't know how
to explain to day other way than just like use
the people who are ready, stop trying to force shit.
And like with Solo, right, Solo got fucking banished to

(46:40):
the shadow round with his goofs and fucking shitty ye
three yeah, corps paint samoans like that's what he's he's there,
and part of the reason why he's there and why
he's going to be real hard for him to box
his way out of it is because they over pushed
him too fucking soon and he wasn't there.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah, well that was a scenario that I think me
and you, even all all of us even back in
the day were like, ah, that's a shit scenarioor to
be put in because of the Roman situation. But yeah,
the Solo, the Solo yard or whatever the fuck, Like,
that's that's done, right, And I know he's got Tama

(47:22):
taker and Jeff Corn on the cob and like it's
just you gotta you gotta get rid of them, You
gotta get rid of them.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
That thing is that shit's ass. That is pure astures.
But I mean, we really have to talk about this match,
and it's because it was undoubtedly the best fucking match
on the show, maybe the best match, not fucking not
even maybe this was better than anything that was on
the pay per view by a lot, Yeah, by a lot,

(47:52):
and just right out the gate. There's no way to
fucking even argue this, in my opinion, Gunter made Solo
look like a legitimate main event wrestler. Yeah, he did that.
He took Solo, who we've all been sitting around and going,
fucking another shovel, dude, another fucking another shovelful of dirt

(48:14):
on the fucking life of Solo. Like this kid's what
twenty eight not, I don't know if he's even thirty,
And we're like, I guess that's done for him. We
already made this guy look like fried shit, you know,
But he went out there with Gunther and had a
real match where he made Solo look like a star.
It was believable.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Well, they kept that simple they kept that simple too.
There was no over the top shit. It wasn't trying
to be flashy. It was a match that was trying
to be brutal. The chops, the clothes lines, just the shoving,
like everything about the match was a simple fight.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Dude. Well this match was going on, I found myself going, fuck,
maybe Solo could be a baby face again, like I
almost like, for that moment I believe, I believed. I go, oh,
maybe we could get him away from this stupid shit
and make him into like a like a fucking hard, tough,
fucking sim own guy that's a fighter and do something.

(49:12):
And then I'm like, oh no, this is the Gunther effect.
Gunther's making this guy who for the past X amount
of years has been on the slow fucking rot look
like he could become a main event wrestler on the show.
That's how fucking much he carried him. Which let's also

(49:32):
make this fucking crystal clear, and anybody that wants to
argue this point go scream into your mother's box. I
don't even care. Gunther is a better wrestler by a
mile than both Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns. Like I said,
go yell, into the fucking abyss. Tell me I'm fucking wrong,
because I have this feeling that you could take Gunther

(49:53):
and give him any middle to middle upper carter that
can keep up with him and make that guy look
like a star. Tell me the same fuck thing about
either of those coopers. You couldn't. Who the fuck does
Seths make look better? Whose Seth made look better? Ever?
Wify his wife makes him look better? I know his
wife has to make him look better, right, the one

(50:15):
hundred and five pound Irish girls got to fucking show
up to make him look like a dull fuck. And
then Roman, for fuck's sake, enough enough? Who the fuck
did Roman even help Solo? Solo pinned him at one point.
Remember that what did that do for his career? Big
fucking Dicky McGee's acts, That's what it did. That match

(50:37):
he had with Gunther last night, Solo looked more, like
I said, than a star than he ever had, pinning
even a scene a pinning fucking Roman. Whomever Gunther is
the fucking truth, and I don't want to hear from people.
Was she with the tournament? He sucks?

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Oh? I saw that. I saw that from even friends
with the show that We're like, why why in the
fuck are we pushing Gunther? And I don't even think
it's a Look. I'll agree with people that this tournament
thing is. It's kind of silly. It's a silly tournament.
It's a silly tournament, but it's what WWE came up
with to honor John Cena. Who knows, maybe it was

(51:15):
even John Cena's idea. No fucking clue where this tournament
came out of. Really felt like it came out of
thin air. It was one of those things. I know,
we talked about it last week. They could have made
it a sixty four man tournament, they could have done
something more for it, but it feels like it was
slopped together and ultimately it just probably leads to Gunther
versus Johnson, which is not a bad thing, But why

(51:36):
wouldn't you want to push Gunther? I don't understand this
weird push back against Gunther. It's like, what's wrong with Gunther?
Can he talk? Yes? Can he wrestle? Yes? Does he
have credibility as a champion? Oh? Yes he does? What
is wrong with Gunther? I don't I don't understand this
falling off of people going ah, Gunther And I've seen it.

(51:58):
I've seen it from people to the show, and I
just and I'm looking and I'm like, I don't understand
the dislike this guy is everything that you would want
to be a representative of this company, of WWE as
a whole.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
There is a point where and it's like people could
label your eyes contrarians, but there's absolutely a point where
you're looking at something of going you're just being a
fucking ornery child. Yeah, to not look at this guy
and go, who doesn't he make better? They even tried, Dude,
he fought valiantly to make Jay Uso look believable. That

(52:35):
should have been the hint when he had to fight
tooth and nail to make Jay look okay, and it
still wasn't even his best work. That like, oh, Gunter
can't bring this guy fucking up like he's Gunter is
at the point of and I understand because he also
wasn't like a main event wrestler. But it is what
it is or could have been, but it wasn't for

(52:55):
many reasons. It's like a Regal, Right, you can't make
shit work with Regal, You suck if you If Rego
can't drag a decent match out of you, suck ass
Brian Danielson back in the day. If he can't drag
a decent match out of you, you fucking stink. Like
we all kind of knew that as to be true.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
So here now with me throw this out here too,
because Drew Yard in the chat says what I've seen
a few other people echo the sentiment of He says,
I love Gunther, but this tournament should have been used
for someone that needed to rub more.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
I mean who, I mean that this is the problem.
It's like, oh, man, who the fuck could have been somebody?

Speaker 1 (53:35):
And it's like, but oh but look, I see he's
not even there. He's not even a regular. I saw
people saying, hey, not a regular, not not a cornerstone. Honestly,
those people don't have enough invested with the fans and
the company that if you did give it to let's
just say a Carmelo Hayes. Let's say you had Carmelo

(53:58):
Hayes versus let's see, I'm sorry John Cena and he
wins over John Cena. How do you know in two
months later, in two months time, that isn't completely fucking wasted. Yeah,
Gunther Gunther taking this, Gunther going up against Sena or
even La Knight. I mean, I'll be fair. La Knight

(54:20):
is another guy that has been fucking itching for something
to define his career in WWE. A guy who we've
seen stop start one hundred fucking times by now, who
literally needs something as the definition of his career, could
absolutely benefit from beating John c from being John Cena's

(54:44):
last opponent. Right. But I say Gunther because you know
that Gunther can drag this through for years, for fucking years.
He's not going anywhere. Do people think that Gunther's going
to leave anytime soon? And bar anything catastrophic like a
horrible injury. How do you not build the company around

(55:05):
a guy who's got everything all ready to begin with.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Yeah, the point is use what you have right now. Yes,
be building for the future, but absolutely positively use what
you have for that best right now. Right If you would, dude,
if you were running a company like a plumbing company
or something, right, let's say, pick any trade skill whatever,

(55:30):
Sure you wouldn't look at the guy that has twenty
years of experience and go, sorry, man, can't give you
the work. I gotta give it to the kid. That's
been here for six months because I want him to
get better.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Right, Like what?

Speaker 2 (55:44):
No, Like you should take the guy that's done it
for twenty years and send him out in the truck
with the guy that's done it for six months, and
then he works next to him for two years. And
then after that happens, the guy who's done it for
twenty years goes, hey, guy that's worked it for two years,
I'll go work with this other guy that's worked for
ten years because you don't need me as much, and
you kind of go that way. This is trade shit.

(56:07):
That's like I said, when people suck off wrestling and
say it's art and fine art and this that or
the other, it's a trade. It's a skill, and you're
supposed to be learning it from each other and getting
better from each other. Yeah, and coming up with new
and creative ideas and ways of doing things. That's why
Jason Jordan shouldn't be a fun It shouldn't be a
fucking coach or an agent. He was wrestling for four

(56:30):
fucking years. Right, you go, well, well, maybe he's brilliant.
Probably not. I'm just gonna go out and let me
and say probably not. And it should be given to
people that actually have been around a long time and
can fucking do something. But enough with any of the
gun the shit, I don't understand. It should be someone else.
Who whom fucking goof?

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Made me laugh? He said, oh, Mass And I'm like,
there's another guy who hasn't been around in a while, and.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Yeah, yeah. And by the way, this isn't like I
don't I personally don't like them as performers, don't think they'd.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Well that's how they're gonna take it, which is the problem,
because it's like as soon as you disagree, all of
a sudden, oh, he doesn't like them, he hates them,
has nothing to do with that. Who's as Drew even
said too, who's the safe bet. Who's the guy that
you know that's going to be there every week for
the next five years. Who's the one that's going to
benefit the most for the company, not for the fans,

(57:29):
not for your your your fandom of said wrestler, But
who's going to benefit the company by winning John Cena's soul?

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Right? And by the way, it's like Dom would have
been a great choice. No, Dom just beats him the
month before instead.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
The Dom domb God enough Jesus Christ, John Cena doesn't
need to lose to dom every goddamn match, you know,
like it's fun And and here's.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
What's funny too, because there's a lot of people that
would be like, Okay, who would that person be? Who
would they build to It's like, well, Cody's already there.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Oh I love Anna, Anna says State Cop. But then
you know what, I think Anna's onto something. But it
exposes something that you've said before. If the company felt so, so,
if the company had as much belief in State Cop
as we the fans do, then yeah, he would have

(58:21):
been the one to take out John Cena.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
And here's also a big thing too of having Steak
Cup do it. And this is once again knowing the mentality,
the mindset of wrestling fans, having watched their behavior for
most of my life and seeing how this goes. That
would be the beginning of people turning on him. That
would be the beginning because they would start picking him apart.

(58:46):
The same thing as like I said, don't tell, don't
tell people EO the best wrestler in the world, because
now they're going to start looking for reasons she's not.
Don't take State Cop who's going to be a guy
that you want to push. You know, he's going to
be main eventing WrestleMania's thirty. And it's like, well that's.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Cool, but yeah, on his own accolades, right.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Yeah, if you do this now and then you say
to people, especially a guy like Sina, where he's he's
got a normy audience, we all know that his audience
is normal bread and fucking meat and potatoes, you know,
lunch pale. Motherfuckers know who John Cena is, right, you know,
So if they put on the TV or they find

(59:27):
out autter the fact, well John Cena stopped wrestling, don't
Sina stopped wrestling? Oh? Man, yeah, this guy beat his ass.
That's the last guy to beat him in two Wow,
who the fuck is he? And they see him and
they go, oh, this is just like another generic fucking guy,
right with a tribal tattoo. And then you watch his
matches and you go, he's almost drilling himself on his

(59:48):
own head because he's still green and not particularly fucking
agile or malleable. And that's not what you want to do.
That is not what you want to do. And had
there been three people that I even would have sat
there and said you could pick this guy, this guy
or this guy. I would say, hey, it's perfectly fine
to not prefer Gunther.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
But I'm okay with La Knight too. I know we're
kind of breezing over La Night being a potential for this,
because who knows, maybe there is a swerve there. Maybe
maybe La Knight cleaned up enough and you know, put
away enough chairs, and they're like, you know, let's give
the kid a shot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Maybe Gunther's head falls off in the middle of the match,
just falsely not.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Show right off. But I mean there is a handful
of people there that would have benefit from this, but
they weren't inserted right Like, I see again, goof, says
brock Lesner. I mean, you're right, come on, he's I
think he's thinking of the big fight feel which I
see what he's saying. The UFC WWE guy takes out

(01:00:50):
the WWE. Yeah, I could see that, and I could
see them billing it that way to maximize three thousand
dollars nosebleed ticket sales profit profit right, But that's so
short term, and I'd like to think that WWE, for
as much as they've been failing upwards for a while
now has some kind of long term plan for you know,

(01:01:12):
the rest of the talent that they have on this show,
but the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Other three hundred people they employ it, right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Randy Orton, I saw that thrown out there too. Again,
shadow it would be a fine match. Nobody would bitch
about Randy Orton versus John Cena. But this is another
one of those things. It's like, yes, that would be
a great final match, but again there's nothing to take
from it. How long is Randy Orton gonna hold that
for three years until he's out of there? Because I
think there's a line we were joking about that before too.

(01:01:40):
There's a line of people getting ready to retire out
of WWE right now, and Johnsena is the first domino.
Then we've got aj Styles on the fucking board. We
got Randy Orton somewhere on board, we got Shamus somewhere
up on board. Like, there's just a list of people
wanting to get the fuck out of this company and
cash that retirement check.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
So Randy's right now, he's standing at the copy machine
dozing off.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
He's like, he's yeah, Raymastereo too, You're right, Lightning. Of course,
you had Raymsterio and the Logan Paul thing in the
back where Logan Paul had to really stretch down and
lean in so Raymas Stereo wouldn't accidentally miss the slap.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Yeah where's this, hey, man, where's Ray? I don't know, dude,
He's been in the bathroom for like twenty minutes. It's
just on his phone on the toilet. Fucking's just like, dude,
I'm done. He's just sucking old.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
He just comes out of the bathroom stall like toilet
paper on his boot, going fucking Mexican food.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Like, yeah, well, you know I don't eat it all
the time. Those enchiladas they got me, no, dude. Yeah,
there's so many of these fucking people that are ready
to go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
The guard has never been clearer, The difference the old
guard versus the new talent has never been clearer. There
are a lot of older guys right now now that
feel like the only reason they're holding on is for
the company. I think. I think this is one of
those things of like they just met up with Triple

(01:03:10):
H one day and he's like, look, you can't all
retire at the same time. Guys, You're gonna fucking kill what.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
I'm gonna need two years.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Notice, dude, I've already had two fucking heart attacks. You
want to give me a third? Like like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
No, but u And by the way, like I think
this is one of those like when people go, oh,
well Sino should have been this one, this ad, this
guy that one, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
You know what, in three years, if it's Obafemi retiring
Randy Orton, you won't hear a fucking peep out of me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Right, who's going to retire Roman reigns solo Sicola? You know,
like these guys there there, there's a lot of them
on their way out. Romans obviously his span is a
little bit shorter due to his personal health, but still
it's kind of like you have to start looking at
this realistically. And gun there's not a guy we're expecting
to be gone in ten years.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
No. No, And by the way, like when Gunter is
a guy that when he's done, now you have something, Well,
Gunter's the guy that retired fucking Goldberg. Right, Gunter's the
guy that retired John Cena. You see, folks, sometimes things
build on things, and I know it sounds fucking condescending.
But like, the point of this isn't supposed to be like, ooh,

(01:04:26):
what new person gets the cupcake this week. It's like no, no, no, no, Like,
we're taking somebody who is a fucking talented dude, who's serious,
that's believable, that can fucking drag a good match out
of just about anybody, and we're saying, all right, well,
that's here is your legacy, right, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
And Ethe relaxes, right, He's like, well, there's Javon Evans, Oba,
Trick Williams, right, like these you hope that by the
time that Gunter gets to that point that he's looking
to retire, those are the names that we would immediately
put up as a well that those are the guys.
Those are the guys that are gonna retire gun.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
There I hope in three years. And I've already said
this on the show, so this isn't like I'm just
coming up with I hope in three years Sammy Zeane's
the guy getting retired by Javani. Yeah, because I look
at them and I go, this is fucking birds of
a feather man, Like this guy is up. He reminds
me so much of Sammy, and I see so many

(01:05:24):
like just I don't know comparisons that that would be
like in three years. Okay, who the fuck, Sammy, I'm
here to take your spot, motherfucker. Like I'm I'm that guy.
I'm the scrappy guy. I'm the guy who they said
was too skinny. I'm the guy that they didn't have
any fucking faith in. It's time for you to go home, bitch,
I'm here, Tony.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
Tony throws up, He's like, what's your opinion on the
Scena actually winning? I never I never for a second
thought Seeno was gonna win. Because Scena respects the business
in his own way.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
That would be that would honestly be almost funny in
the word.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Yeah, It's like a Goldberg moment or a Hull coaching moment.
At that It's like, what are you doing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Well? Once again, I guess unless Gunster's head falls off, yes,
Scena just rolls it back onto him and just throws
them on top of him. He's like, I'm done. I'm
not wrestling another match.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
The same white fault shit.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Weekend at fucking Gunther's. He's just like, yeah, I'm not
having another match. I'm done.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Yes, I agree with you. Solo and Gunther was the
highlight match of the night. We also had a couple
other things happening too. Obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
I talked about the New Day trying get Grayson Waller
the fuck off television. Grayson Waller, Doug put in your
application to thunder down Under. It's fucking it's done. Yeah,
fucking done. I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
There was some like Chris van Vleet interview where he's
like crying about how much he loves wrestling, and it's
just a gimmick that I hate you all. Well, we
don't like you. Fuck off. You're not that good. You
look like shit. It's boring. I have no idea, zero
idea why he is in this New Day thing. I mean,
do you want to talk about having husband for Carmelo.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Hayes, Well that's hey, old boy and him fucking split
up and he had nothing to do awesome Theory and
Grayson Waller split up and they're like, well, we can't
take them both off TV. I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Oh, and can I point out this very very obvious
thing too, speaking of like not just putting together the pieces, Hey,
grown men listening to this show because it's mostly that
you guys know any adult male Grayson's. Well, have you
met any adult male Graysons? Have you met anybody who's
not out of the overall stage in their life named Grayson?

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
Oh no, because it's a it's a name.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
For babies that were born in twenty sixteen. I think
I just.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Figured it was an awesome thing or whatever. Right, Well,
see you're talking as an American, but isn't Enoughustralia. Maybe
there's a thousand Graysons walking around just hanging out in Melbourne.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
The toughest man in auto mobile Rice and Digeridoo Grayson,
diger doo.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Woha, what's your name? My name is Wohoa whoa whoa
wah Grayson Wah whoa whoa whoa woh.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
He goes and he guys in Yow's at the ocean
threatens him to fight it, big big gryson, scary guy
Grayson fucking Like I said, it's like millennial ship baby
name Aiden Shade and Braiden Tadu and Nevea fucking get
out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Like aj styles together though they're fine, they're fine together.
It's nice.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
Yeah, I mean the match that's a nice like a
kind of odd couple but not at all tag team.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Right their styles mass, it's just their cultures are completely different. Ahyeah,
it's fine. They like that. And obviously the they they
made Adam Pierce happy on his night of hunting down
the Masked Man by telling telling him that he's going
to face or that they're going to face the war
Raiders next week for the titles, so they're like, oh,
Adam's like, that's a great idea. They're like, yeah, it is,

(01:09:15):
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
I like it. I like the odd couple tag team
of those two where He's like, I'm a little bit
country he and Dragonly's like I believe in science, all right,
brush Matis, I don't believe even angels. Yeah that's me.
We're an odd couple tag team over here.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
I definitely want to talk about this though, too, because
I thought this was kind of a dead dog, and
I know it was supposed to be a big moment,
but the Dominic Mysterial Live Morgan promo.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
This felt like they we're all still waiting for something
to happen. Well, yeah, was the point of that?

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
That too? A lot of kisses for dom I guess
you had to catch up a little bit like it
was all cheek kisses and chin kisses and stuff like
the way you kiss an animal, Like nobody kisses an
animal in the mouth. But yeah, like, oh, what a
good boy, what a good boy? Dominic is, Oh, I
love you, I love you, And it was Live is

(01:10:13):
kind of like asserting herself as the dominatrix of the
Judgment Day. And it was weird too, because this is
not where Live strong Suit is. Live strong Suit is
not being the fucking leader or openly being the microphone
for the whole group. Her entire strong Suit was that

(01:10:34):
Dominic was the scumbag and she was playing him like
a fiddle, and that was where their dynamic was where
it was fun to watch, especially going back to the
real Ripley ship blah blah blah. But Live comes back
in a big mode and maybe and I'm once again
this is one of those things. Jo I'm just gonna
give him the pass for the week because it's like, oh, look,
lives back, Yay, give her her flowers everybody year. What

(01:10:57):
a piece of shit she is. And it's like, but
the way that promo was trying to unfold that, oh
I heard the Judgment Day is weak. I heard you
lost all your gold. I heard you're a bunch of pussies. Well,
let live Big Live, Big Daddy Live, Big Mama Live.
Put everybody on notice. We're coming back for all the

(01:11:18):
gold you stole from us. Checks my nuts. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
It's like, meanwhile, they're all more over than they've ever been.
Like Finn's really doing like I mean, I know, he's
just like new metal guy, dressed like a fucking the
basis of the death Zones or something.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
They were actually funny. Finn and JD in the background
during Live Lives Little Speech are looking at each other
like what the fuck is this bitch talking about? They're
literally looking at her like she's crazy. From the background,
I was dying at that part. But that's like that
unintentional comedy that happens in WWE a lot, and it's

(01:11:56):
just yeah. But the actual promo, Jalla not particularly good.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
This should have been a dump the thumbs down. We
are kicking fucking rocks An out, you know, thank you
for your service. Fucking boom right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
That's what I was thinking too of them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
That's what that should have been.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Well, because they ruled everybody out and she didn't call
out Rock's hand I'm like, are we just gonna forget
about the chicken tendis? We're just gonna forget about that.
We're just gonna forget about you know, rubbing his shoulders
and ship, We're just gonna forget about that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Oh And still, like I said, like, how do you
not address just the idea of being like, hey, thanks
for your help, but fuck off? Like that seems like
it would make sense to be the next move. Yeah,
I don't know, I don't know. It's weird. It is
very fucking weird that that whole promo happened. And I

(01:12:47):
think everybody was sitting there going, something's gonna happen, right,
they gonna do something, and then not a thing, not
a thing, not a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
Not That's why I just said, I'm like, this is
just a hey, welcome back live promo. Way to eat
up some time. And I was like, Okay, it's fine.
She came out wearing like the shortest of shorts. She
ditched the Jenkos from the night before, two nights before,
and she just wore her underwear out there this week,
and I was like, Okay, that's fine. That's what a

(01:13:20):
lot of people missed. They got to see a little
Live booty.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Yeah that is you know what? That is kind of
funny when you think about it, where she's like, I'm
back and I'm wearing the biggest pants you can imagine,
and then the next night she's like, I'm back to
little pants. Is this a sign?

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Saw on Netflix? She wears the little pants. On pl
she wears the big Jenkos. Okay, I got.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
She's just getting ready for Saudi Arabia. See, I'm around
these big ass pants. I'm gonna eat them when this
company gets bought up with oil money.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Yeah, no, dude, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
They needed to do something. They needed to be some
sort of change something. So I'm sort of like, oh, wait,
what the fuck's going on here? Honest to god, even
if it had been like fuck you, Raquel or something
anything like.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
You were supposed to protect dom. You were supposed to
be the one I put in charge. Yeah, no, absolutely
I could have seen that too. Where Roxy isn't the
main focus of Live's anger, it's Raquel for fucking stabbing
her in the back or dropping the ball, however you
want to look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
You're on my shit list, Raquel. You should have been
looking out for all these titles. You should have been
looking out for my boys. You should have been looking
out for my dom Dom. I don't expect anything out
of this you know, twerp or whatever like, but I
expect something out of you, you know anything. Instead, it
was just like, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Welcome back, new Judgment Day. We're angrier.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
I know somebody should have been like, did anybody bring
many cupcakes? You know, it's like a little event.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
I'm expecting Finn Baller to come out in short shorts
and Jad mcdonoughh to come out in short shorts next.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
Week, Bella, they changed the dress code. I can't wear
me Jenkos no more. And I was just getting good
at me kickflips. Can't wear me Jenko's no more. Yeah,
I don't know. Like I said, I think this group

(01:15:19):
is doing better than they ever have.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
I don't know. I don't know about that, but I
think they're doing fine. I think that there's a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Of God you could make a case Dom is fucking
over as shit.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
I agree, But I think the best Judgment Day, believe
it or not, was the rial Ripley stuff when they
had our Truth in there and they had Carlito in there,
like I'm sorry, man, those those were a lot of fun.
Those days were a lot of fun. But as far
as the current iteration, Yeah no, I totally agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
I think this we knew, but we knew that Riha,
this was a stopover for her. Oh you know what
I mean. We knew that this was just a stepping
stone for Ria to wear next deal.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
But yeah, no, no, no, Joe, I'm going to argue
the best Judgment day was the Edge judgment day.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Man, Yeah, that was a great ten days. What a time. Which,
by the way, how funny is it to imagine like
Edge putting on the TV right now and just seeing
this and just going on this day? Just imagin Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Yeah, he's just like he's.

Speaker 7 (01:16:25):
Just like, hey, you know, I could have been I
the leader everyone else a leader. I was going to
lead the group. I guess I could have been a
good thing on my t W Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Good day, buddy. Feel like he's falling off another twenty
foot thing this week.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Tony calls him. He's like, all right, so I have
a bleed blog blocked extravagant marriage coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
I gonna need you to bleed blog. Darby's not gonna
be around, can you do it? Edge?

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
He's like just zoning out, like.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Let's get to the main events, that being ja Uso
versus l A Knight in the in the jay Uso
learns to cry match, it's it was fine, it was
the match was fine l A Knight, even though it
was it was a little sloppy from Jay and then
I hate to say that, No, not from j I mean,
I try to believe in the kid in the ring.
I think he does fine with his brother. Obviously he's

(01:17:30):
a different animal entirely as a singles guy. But I
don't know, I like the vibe from l A Knight.
I'm still I'm still on board with the idea that
l A. Knight deserves more than what he's been getting
and the fact that he got to secure this win
over mister Krys a lot. Jay Uso was fine. I
really enjoyed it. I thought that this was this was
afropos because it felt like of all the people that

(01:17:54):
that jay Uso could lose to l A. Knight makes
the most sense.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Yes, yeah, well, there's there's also something of the effective.
I love l A.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
Knight.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
I think that he should be more than what he is,
and that should have already have happened but he's also
my age, like, he's not a getting man. That is
also another point where we're at where it's just like
some of these people. That's like, listen, we got real
lucky as viewers to get aj Styles for the amount

(01:18:24):
of time that we got him. Yeah, you know, but
when he showed up, he was not a young man.
And he's a fucking genetic freak of nature combined with steroids.
So we're very, very fortunate to have him and have
him for the amount of time that we have. But
Ellie Knight's gotta be like, yeah, he looks good, but
he's got about three years probably.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Oh that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
You only think three years really three to five? Oh okay,
he's I mean, anything can happen, But I mean he
obviously works a much safer style. He's not to win
Swantan's off ladders it nothing, no, but of course not
Still like these are not younger guys. And like I've said,
you know on this show a million times and I

(01:19:07):
said it today, to use them when they work, use
them when they're over, use them when they're at their peak.
Don't sit around and go oh oh fuck the fucking
meats expiring. Throw it in the pan, right, No, you
got to use a use La Night now.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
W w E staple is yeah, it's a week so
it's half off, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Like they're like, what temperature do I have to kill
pork so I don't end up well getting lysteria or
whatever it's called.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
If they don't do anything soon, he's gonna have fucking
freezer burn. That's all I'm saying. Man, It's just there's
nothing you could do when it starts getting that flavor.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
But losing his fucking hearing La Night, huh.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
But wrestling soup everybody. That's pretty much the week of
Raw on Netflix. There was one other thing I want
to throw in here. I just caught it a little
bit earlier. Ninos was actually at Survivor Series war Games
and he wanted us to know his thoughts. And he said,
you know, also listening to the Survivor series post show,
and I thought I could confirm some thoughts about the show.

(01:20:16):
There were ads for us there in the stadium. Most
of them were for Saudi Arabia ads mixed in with
car ads. It was funny because when the first ad played,
someone screwed, Someone screamed, we have to fucking watch ads
here too.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
That is horseshit. I mean he's that is a good job.
Whoever that individual is honestly for what these people fucking
pay to have this ship. People need to be out
there with T shirt guns. Yes, they need to be
running trivia.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
I better the nineties. Just go back to the nineties,
that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Yeah, how do you know? And by the way, like
this is every every sports team worth anything in this
country knows how to run little segments between things like
if you go to a Patriots game, there's multiple of
these commercial break segments throughout the entire game where it's like, Hey,

(01:21:20):
you know, we got Susie Q here from Waltham, and
you know this is We're gonna ask her some Patriots
trivia and she can win two tickets on Jet Blue
to go anywhere in the United States. Like it's like,
how the figty fuck is WWW not doing this at
their live events?

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Oh yeah, no, Hey, we got Larry here coming into
the booth with me. Edward Barrett. Hey, Larry, do you
know who won last year's Russell Baty. Just pick anybody
and you win a lifetime supply of Prime Energy drink
for you and your dead dog.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Like all right, well, I mean, honest to God, and
you can do this shit like yeah, poh young, pull
young fans from the crowd, people in their in their teens,
in their twenties and likes and from the nineties.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Dude, it's a better way to advertise too, right, because
not only do you give somebody a pittance of a prize,
like I don't have to spend money on that shit.
Most of the time the sponsors are like, yeah, here,
here's one hundred dollars worth of fucking prime pissed juice.
And it's like, oh, they're so happy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
We have a T shirt signed by cimpunk. It took
him upwards of six seconds he's in the ring.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
And you know what, we have a logan Paul signed
Affi David for his zoo coin. There you go, it's
fu man.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
How about every hockey game I went to, which hockey
is not. That's not a lot of money in hockey
compared to every other major American support. There's not a
lot of money.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
I mean, it's not like I can buy eight Stanley
Cups Blackhawks pucks online on eBay for eight dollars. I mean,
so much money.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
So much money yay, I love that the sport's dead. No,
but like, how do you not even have a moment
where you go, Hey, if you're in this seat, we're
gonna bring you over some fucking pizza from the pizza
in the building. Hey, hey, we're doing a fifty to

(01:23:13):
fifty raff or whatever the fuck. Like, it's so fucking lazy.
You're showing me commercials for a fucking dictatorship, that's what
you're doing. You can't give me a free T shirt,
but you can show me commercials for a dictator you know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
What to let me be fair, what kind of pizza
do they have at the Desert Diamond Arina Joe?

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
It doesn't even matter, thy little Caesar sick as a fuck.
You're just killing time. You're just killing time, that's all
you're doing. Hey, fucking Section three oh four Rogue twelve,
Seat sixteen. You want a fucking spaghetti pull from Fred's
fucking Linguini Express. Just anything other than you know, hey, guys,

(01:24:00):
thanks for paying a thousand bucks to be here. Watch
our curvy sword murder advertisement. So you can never even
consider coming here because you're actually just a regular person
and aren't interested in this, Like it's it's lazy, sleezebag bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Ninos goes on. He says Domin Sina were the best
match and had the crowd the loudest. Of course, Nikki
Bella versus Stephanie var was the piss break. The lines
for the men's bathroom were long. There was also a
huge line for customer service, and apparently people were sold
tickets behind the entrance behind the entranceway, and the entrance

(01:24:39):
way blocks their view of the ring. It was a
giant black barrier. They had to watch from the screen
even to be able to see the people in line
missed half the show and not sure if this is
how true this is, but someone on TikTok said that
the ticket masters sold them duplicate seats and when he
got to his seat, someone was already sitting into it.

(01:25:02):
He went to the customer service and they said that
they couldn't help him. Ticketmasters said they couldn't help him
because he attended the show. Not sure how real that is,
but if I would have called my bank right away,
and he finally says the ending to the main event
killed the crowd, I felt like that was it. That's it.

(01:25:22):
I did have a good time. My girlfriend got his
tickets for my birthday. She spent six hundred dollars in total.
It was great as a first experience, but I think
it'll be my last experience attending live with these prices,
and I think there's a lot of people that are
going to be very similar minded. And with the way
that these ticket prices keep going up and up and up,

(01:25:45):
there's a lot of people that are down for WWE,
but they're not going to house shows. They're not going
to these events. They'll watch on TV, they'll watch on Netflix,
they'll watch on a pirated stream. But asking them to
spend six hundred dollars to go to an event where
they play adverageism statue, I can't. I can't see this
being a formula that lasts too.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
And then you leave and then you walk out the
door staring at your shoes because they ended it on
a fucking mystery man's storyline instead of John fucking Sina
who was in the building. Like this is just not
well done. And it once again like it makes me
laugh because you know, the wrestling tribalism or whatever the

(01:26:27):
fuck it is, and people, well, Jada Wednesday show fucking
sucks or whatever, And I'm like, oh, tell you what
sucks about WWE, right for a fucking day, I can
tell you how bad it is. The only difference is
is I expect WWE to know and do better. That's it.
There should be people there that know how to do
this and have it make more sense. Just for whatever reason,

(01:26:51):
they're not right there. Like I said, there is absolutely
zero fucking excuse that you have a ring announcer standing
in the ring. You have what three or four girls
under common under contract to hold a fucking microphone, and
you're showing people Snickers ads in the arena in their

(01:27:11):
six hundred dollars wrestling seats, and then go and see
you next time. Fuck you will, fuck you will see
me next time for these prices, with your not even
attempting to give me actual entertainment value. There was thirty
minutes before between the Nicky Bella match and the fucking
main that's dog shit. Yeah, that's really bad. I don't know,

(01:27:36):
but like raw, raw was what it was. And I repeat,
I accept no Gunther slander. I don't want to hear
anything fucking bad about Gunter Solo. Soakawa was made to
look like a fucking star in that match, and I
defy you to name me fucking three other people that
are in that company that could have done as good

(01:27:56):
of a job as he did. That's where we're at.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Well, we will get ready to see everybody on Thursday.
Make sure you subscribe to the YouTube, subscribe to the patreon,
Patreon dot com, forward slash Wrestling Soup, and yeah, yeah,
I think that's pretty much about it for today, But
much love to people in the live chat, and much
love to John Draper again for joining us on Saturday.
If you haven't had a chance to check out the
post show, it's very good and better than better than

(01:28:22):
War Games. So see you guys Thursday.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Yeah I haven't did night, guys. Follow wrestlings on tilt
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