ANDRADE WATCH 2025 (Wrestling Soup 10.16.25)

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
I said we're going to have a light wrestling newsweek,
and it's like, oh, great, let's work perfectly.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Now, right, Well, dude, you're not wrong. I mean, what
has really happened. I know that AW had some sort
of insanely abysmal rating, which was hilarious to say.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
They're only going to get worse with the new Nielsen ratings.
But with the highlight of the news week is Andrade
Watch twenty twenty five?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I know, right with a guy who has been around
for a decade and has been barely relevant the entire time.
But everyone's like, yeah, he's a good wrestler though, right,
Like that's pretty cool, Like, dude, that's the best thing
we have about him.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I like James ra merriw. But like there are people
putting out apbs on fucking Andrate like he's a man
at large. Like wait, right, like he just got done
murdering an entire kindergarten or something like, people are where
where's Andrade? We didn't we we didn't see him on

(01:14):
a w this week? Where's Andrade?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
I mean I can take a couple of guesses. One
he doesn't want to show up, because that's already a
thing that he has done. This is not out of
the ordinary for him to not show up for television
or too. I mean, he was failing a lot of
drug tests and uh, I.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Know, was it trying hard enough?

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I am a Dave'm a study guide. He just you know.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I was using my nostrils.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
You just give him a piece of paper on it.
It just says, don't do drugs, and he's.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Like, ship, I can't. I can't study this. It makes
no sense. No setto setto drug yes, Andrade no drugs whatsoever?

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh no, Mi gusta. Uh yeah, I don't know, man.
It is pretty fucking hilarious when you put it into account, like, well,
where is Andrade? Where did he go? It's like, I
don't fucking care.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Wrestling for a mature audience.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I don't develop it.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Wrestling soup. I'm Anthony Thomas, He's Joe Numbers. Andrade watched
twenty twenty five is Live. You know, Brian of the
Brian and Alvarez or Brian and Meltzer Alvarez whatever podcast whatever?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Who cares?

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Now? He chimed in on where where in the world
is Andrade? And Alvarez said, I was told that he's
not hurt. Wherever he is, he's not hurt hurt. He
didn't get himself fired. Apparently something is up involving his
WWE non compete. I was given the impression that it

(03:10):
could be something that can be resolved quickly, or it
could be something that might be resolved for a while.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Oh, it could either happen now or later. Shit.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
It could or be a beach day. Which one is
it going to be.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
It's either going to rain or not rain.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Oh shit. But he says it's college for that. I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
It's something definitely related to the non compete. And then
Dave in his infinite wisdom response to Brian, and he says,
that's what I've been hearing.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Oh my god, do you know what's great? It's like
throughout the years I've had people say about our show
where they've been like it's almost like sports radio or whatever.
And I'm like, all right, sure, but like what you
get at this point out of Brian and Dave is
quite literally just bad sports talk. You know. It's like,

(04:15):
is she listen? We already blew out his acl last week.
Looks like he's not playing next week. Yeah, that's what
I heard. Yeah, we Yeah, we know he blew out
his acl Yeah right.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
I mean, at least give us in contacts where you
heard that, right. If Dave wanted to chime in that, well,
my sources with then wwe said that it's something different
or that's they're confirming it, Like do you know what
I mean? So I have no problem with that. You're
you're right in that sense where it's bad sports radio
and I'm not defending these numb nuts whatsoever. I'm just saying,

(04:48):
give people a reason to understand why you're just like,
yup jumping Jeff Meltzer.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's right, you heard it here first. Yep, that's it.
Oh damn, dude, so down you're dropping too much knowledge? Yeah,
I don't know, man, I mean at this point, like
it's almost redundant to just be like Meltzer's a fucking
spurg that doesn't know what the fuck he's doing and

(05:16):
what he's talking about. Like I still find myself tuning
into those videos that filmmakes where it's just him talking
about the ways that Meltzer has fucked up, because to me,
that's like you're putting it all in one place for me.
So I'm like, all right, I'll consume this and one
fell swoop, you know, I'll get in there and it's like,
did you hear what he said? As far as Oh

(05:39):
my god, I can't remember which wrestler he was comparing
them to. Fuck where he's like, Kyle Fletcher is better
than most of the guys in WWE. It was like
something like that, which is like normal for him to say.
And there was somebody else this week. I can't remember
who the fuck he was talking about. Oh, domb, dumb, dumb.
He was like, you know, half the guys in AW

(06:01):
were better than Dominic Mysterio or something like that. It's like,
are you what a fucking.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
How do you even take it seriously at that point?
You know what I mean? Like, look, it's one thing
to have a wild opinion about shit, but to make
a blanken statement and just say, yeah, everybody in AW
is better than Dominic And it's like, okay, cool, name
one that's.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Right, Name one that is like making money or making waves.
And by the way, I'm sure people could say at
the same time though, well, I mean consider the circumstances,
Like okay, so what you're saying is is this shit
is low? Right? Then? Yeah, so that's kind of like
you end up playing this game where it's like, oh
well maybe Doms speaking of sports radio, maybe Doms just

(06:43):
a system quarterback. You're like, okay, well, what does it
say about the other guys? Then that means they can't
make people better? Right, they can't do something like they
can't shine on their own team. Well no, because it's
wrestling and it's fake anyways, Okay, so what do you
mediots arguing about then? Right, what's your actual argument? Then?

(07:03):
I don't know, but I guess at this point the
idea that Androde, who failed apparently multiple drug tests, is
now not able to be found.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Well, it gets cheaper than that. So Tony Kahn had
his talk, his phone call, his weekly phone call where
people verbally mouth hug him and John Elba during the
Russel Dream media call asked Tony Kahn directly about what's
going on with Andrade and the company, and Tony of
course praise and Drode's work and a w in twenty

(07:34):
twenty three, but didn't give any real specifics when pressed
about the Andrade situation. Quote I asked Tony con about
Andrade's current situation with AW he says he had high
praise of Androde when he left AW in twenty twenty three,
and I followed up exactly and asked directly if this
was under contract and they were aware of a WWE
non compete clause. He said that was all he could

(07:57):
say at this time, and so the lack of detail
hasn't stopped any speculation. And what they're saying now is quote,
we have it confirmed through multiple sources that the new
TKO contracts have a clause where if you are fired,
there is a one year non compete clause. Older contracts

(08:17):
had this, but it's standard now. So this is the
new hold up involving in drate. Very skeptical that this
would hold up in a legal battle, but it's in
the contract. So chances are Andrade is going to be
coke free for the evening.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Oh shit, I get there, A fucking year off. Yeah.
Well that's where I have to think to myself, So
does that mean all wrestling or just contractual you know,
television wrestling, because I guess he could just go do
indies and shit and do Mexico and all that.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Right, So Mexico might be different because it's in a
whole different country. But yeah, I don't know. There's no
real details on the new contract or the new revamped
version of the old contracts. But could you imagine if
they couldn't work in the States for an entire year.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
That's kind of funny.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
I mean, go hook up with Subway Sammy buddy, like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Right, Jesus, welcome to Gosco.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Would you like me to get you a chicken?

Speaker 2 (09:23):
It is a beautiful thing? No, man, I mean, what
do you say in this situation other than maybe you
gotta know your contract a little better and.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
It has that change since the TKO stuff. You know
what I mean. You're dealing with no more boiler template
shit right, it's a whole new company. So you can't
just go, oh wow, it's just like last year's you
don't really know anymore.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Well, there is also this point too, where you know
you're getting into a multiple year presumably god knows, six
seven figure contracts. Sure, you should probably go look for
one of those lawyer guys.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
He is he's lawyering up. There's no fucking way in
hell he's not.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
No, But I mean, before you sign the thing, how
about you find a fucking lawyer. And by the way,
I'm sure in the circumstance too, you could hear somebody
be like, well, maybe it's a language barrier thing or whatever.
I'm like, there are lawyers that speak Spanish.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
A better reason to have a lawyer.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, dude, Like right, I mean like that makes it
even more ridiculous. Imagine you walking for a job and
they're just like, yeah, sign this paper in German. You're like,
what could go wrong?

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Vince is like, was you like a coke pal? And
definitely yes.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I Like, you know what, maybe there was a lawyer
present and the lawyer just did it. He says to
the already just goes so what is their policy on
doing big fat lines of cocaina? And then they go,
well what did he say? And he's like, oh no.
Then he's asking about PTO. They're like, oh yeah, he

(11:17):
signs in.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Ronnie turns.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
He's like, did you ask about the cocaine? And he's like,
oh yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's cool. Don't worry, they're cool.
He's like, yeah, I even they would be cool. I
don't know, man, I guess kinda if we want to
go with like the wear in the World's Carmen, the
San Diego in this situation and to take the dark
darkness route. Uh, if this guy legitimately has a drug problem,

(11:43):
like assuming once again complete speculation, fucking people do drugs
in our drug addicts. We know this, right, right, but
then who knows where the fuck he is? Right? You know,
like if he's really off the rails and he's out
there and he's on a bender, and it's like, why
isn't he in uh Minnesota for this aw taping? It's like,

(12:03):
cause he's fucking face down in a pile of blow
you dumb fuck.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I'm not even gonna guess that, but it is kind
of funny. There was a couple of questions in the
chat already brought up. Nino's brought up, so is it
a paid year off? Basically I would assume it has
to be, maybe even at a lesser rate, but unpaid
non compete clause that won't stand up in court. There's
no way.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
There's no way, probably especially with an independent contractor deal. Yeah,
you're right, maybe at a reduced rate they'll pay them.
But also at the same time, if you think about it,
like if you're firing a guy specifically because of drug usage,
you know, let's once again, let's just play into this.
We don't know. Here's sa conjexture.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Sometimes people just do cocaine for fun, right sure? Uh
boil boy, are you setting that motherfucker up for the grave?

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Doing that? You know, take a year off, there's a
bunch of money, don't go to work, right right? What
do you what are you gonna do with your day? Oh? Drugs?
I am what? No way? Yeah, that's not helping.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
People in the chat too that are saying it's unpaid
as well. Fuck an unpaid year off?

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Ah well, I mean, you know me, I'm usually one
to support the to support the worker, right, whether it
be just a regular guy trying to work a job
or the wrestlers for the most part, unless they're chodes
like Nemett's brother and all that. But there is a
point where you look at you go, well, why'd you
go get yourself fired from your six figure job?

Speaker 1 (13:42):
It just seems you Even I understand that it's a
new you know, hierarchy with that runs WWE, but that's
that's excessive. Even if he did get himself fired, that's
one year off, no pay. He really is gonna have
to become fucking subway Sammy.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Oh my god, it's fresh. Uh yeah, I don't know, man,
Maybe it's just in a wrestling capacity though, Like yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Mean they're not going to force him not to work
at Walmart. Jesus Christ, that'd be awful.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Yeah. Imagine if they were like, now you got to
come and fucking wrap wires for us into ring crew.
You know, I thought, is some degree, this is why
I do sort of missed the scale of the old
wrestling world, right, because yeah, sure he's got the contract, Yeah, sure,
all this other shit, right, But what they'd have done,

(14:36):
instead of going through all this rigamarole with all these
other circumstances and shit, is they would have contacted other promoters,
assuming that any of them at half assed dignity, and
be like, why would you bring in this drug addict
who's gonna fucking no show? And then he just wouldn't
be able to wrestle that way.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Well here's the combination of it too. Let me throw
this out here, right, and we're making these jokes about
you know, his a pair of drug use or his
supposed drug use. We don't know, and that's fine, that's fine,
there's no it's all allegedly right lace up in the
chat brings up deportation clauses. If he can't work, No, no, seriously,

(15:14):
if he can't work for a year and his work
visa goes up, well he's just he's got to get
the fuck out of the country, right.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Did he get citizenship per his marriage to share.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
It though, don't know?

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yes, Yeah, that's one thing we don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
I mean google it, Hey Google, Oh wait, I can't
do that anymore.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, boy, that's a good way to put yourself on
Palenteers fucking lest real quick. Oh my god, here Google,
what happens if I marry a lady for citizenship? Your
fucking door just explodes A fucking slim gym commercial in
the nineties. Yeah, I don't know, man, Maybe maybe he does,

(15:57):
like I said, have citizenship well from his marriage. You know.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Google's first response is that provided information does not specify
Andrade Manuel Alfonso Andrade Ropeza is a US citizen, so
he's not. That's saying that there. His background indicates he's
a Mexican professional wrestler born in Gomez Bilacho, Durango, Mexico,

(16:21):
and began his career in Mexico in the name Balleionte
junior junior blah blah blah. While he's been side with
WWE and AW, there's no mention of any citizenship status
in the available sources.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
So well, you know what, though, for what it's worth,
he was with her for a long time, you know.
And I'm not like trying to be like a dick
and be like, oh, well come out, you put it
into years. But like, if you're married to somebody who's
an American citizen and you're with them for whatever, half
a decade or you know, right, you would assume that
they'd be like, all right, this ship was legit. It's

(16:56):
not like you were, you know, trying to fuck around
and sneak your way in. You know. It's like I
want to sneak in and get all that no healthcare
right and seven dollars hour jobs, blucky duck. No, I
don't know, man, Like I doubt that's on the on
the table. And truthfully, I'm sure if he has even

(17:17):
had that as a problem that has been considered that
he knows that his money's in Mexico, so he doesn't
give a shit.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
You know, maybe, I don't know, I would think that, yeah,
you absolutely care when the predominant audience that has been
watching you, has been in an American audience more than
a Mexican one. And you're right, he can go back
there and he's fine. But I don't know, don't you
think that's kind of like uprooting your life a little bit,
being forced not out of your just your job, not
being able to work anywhere else around, but now you've

(17:44):
got to go back home.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
It's like, well, I know he's doing really well.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, Like, god, man, this is an awful and I
don't even know if he's even thought about that, because
it doesn't seem like it's being brought up anywhere. It's
the first time I saw it was brought up here
at our jet just as a tongue in cheek kind
of statement, but it's it really is something he should
be worried or concerned about, especially with the way, you know,

(18:09):
you know, the country's kind of cracking down people that
may or may not belong here.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
So well, well that's why every time I now see
these things where like WW talent is constantly flying and
traveling and going from place to place to place, I'm like, uh,
that could be a real interesting outcome. Sure, if you
know one of these Barney Fife's fucking pull on fucking
you know, what's his name, Phoenix and Penta, and they're like, whoa,

(18:36):
we're gonna get you, dangerous game member.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Yeah, but if you're in the company Trump loves his WWE.
Trump big fan, big fan of the WWE. I'm pretty
sure if you're working for that company, you've got carte blanche.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Oh well, that's what I'm saying is I'm sure you
would after the fact. But you know, yeah, a lot
of these guys were talking about, like there's a reason
why you're seeing videos of them like slamming old ladies
to the ground and going after fucking day laborers. They're
not breaking into buildings and going after like legitimate scary,
fucking you know, gang member dudes covering face tattoos. They're like, oh,

(19:15):
these old beat I can beat up old ladies and
fucking throw people who are already leaving a court Like
They're like, you gotta do it the right way. They're like, look,
I'm doing it the right way. They're like, yeah, well
we got a quota, and uh, we want to go
after actual scary people. So that's where, like I said,
I think to myself. I'm like, that's very possible. It's
very possible for one of those dudes that they could

(19:36):
just be shilling going through the airport. But I don't know,
and we'll have to see, But I don't think that's
a I once again, I have no idea what it
twice status is as a citizens right. Well find well,
I guess we you know what, I guess We'll find
out all other.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Things that are going on. Nick Kahn did an interview
and he was addressing the fact that he was on Joy,
which I've never heard of that before. But he was
addressing the decision to have Mania forty three in Saudi Arabia,
and he said it was a natural next step for
us in WWE. We realized a number of years ago

(20:14):
that we can't simply pipe American product out globally and
hope to be a global product. You actually have to
put boots on the ground. If you look at what
we've done in our premium live events over the last
few years, about half of those now take place outside
of the US. We're in eighth We're in the eighth
year of a long term partnership with the Turkey. The

(20:35):
Turkey chik his Excellency, the other Excellency and the Kingdom
of Saudi Arabia, and we're bringing the Royal Rumble here
at the end of January. It's the first time Royal Rumble,
which is our second or third biggest event, will take
place outside of the US or Canada. WrestleMania twenty twenty
seven will be here in April of that year for
the first time ever, Mayia will be outside of the

(20:56):
US or Canada. We're excited. We think viewers should is
going to be strong. We think people will come to
the Kingdom to see our show and we're going to
put on a spectacle. Now, before I read the rest
of this, how how pissed off are you if you're
in the UK fourth.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Fucking how long begging fucking for their king.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
You even have a huge stadium, they could hold WrestleMania
at Wembley and it would do gangbusters.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
And by the and by the way, dude, this is
also why like to some extent whenever people even are
like whoa, look at the look at how well aw
did and it's like, yeah, because they went they actually
just did it. You know, like if w W we
just did that, they would also have been successful, but
they're too busy chasing the fucking Turkey money.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Put their biggest show on their on their year in
the UK multiple times and it did very well. And
WWE did hold up a random show in the UK
and that also did well. But could you imagine the
amount of money that would be generated if they actually
hosted a WrestleMania in the UK. And it's just weird
that the groundbreaking move is Saudi Arabia, That Saudi Arabia

(22:15):
offered WWE so much money that they could no longer
keep it in the US.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
I mean, it's no surprise. I think that's really it.
I'm honest to God at this point, like, I'm so
exhausted with and you know me, I hate all the
fucking pop psychology internet buzz terms that people develop over
time and they adopt them and use them incorrectly. But
I'm so sick of the fucking Saudi Arabian gaslighting shit

(22:42):
where it's like, maybe our great fans will get on
an airplane and come to this beautiful country. I'm like,
you want to bet they won't.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Right right?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
I bet they're not. But they're saying that. They're not
saying that because they're like, oh yeah, Like people, we're
gonna be like, fucking why would I want to go
to Las Vegas? Why would I want to go to
Miami when I could go to the Middle East.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Well, we could just host you that you know, Las
Vegas for a third year.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
In a row and but left. Dude, to some extent,
that's okay, Like if this became wwe presents our fucking
Vegas residency. Sure, sure for Menia, I don't see that
as a big problem. And that's not even just because
like I'm someone that I like going to Vegas. I

(23:30):
have fucking fun every time I go there. But I
still totally understand why you go. All right, listen, we
know this place is expensive, but get this, bitch. We
got fucking hotels everywhere, there's stuff to do. We got
a goddamn airport that's set up for coming and going.
We've got all these different side venues where we can
do a Hall of Fame and an indie show and
a partridge in a pear tree. So it makes sense.

(23:52):
But the idea of talent people that live in Ohio
that it's like, yeah, man, no, you're a big No,
you're a big wis you we wrestling fan fanatic, Why
don't you get your tickets to fucking Dubai or some shit.
It's like, yeah, no, dude. Now it's very funny to

(24:12):
me because it sounds like in this moment I could
be potentially running down people from the States. But it's
kind of just true, like most people you know don't
even have the fucking money or the drives to leave
the country, right right, of course that that's just like
to people from Europe who can get on a train

(24:34):
and go to fucking five countries in todays, that's not
we don't have that as an option. No, there's plenty
of people that live in pretty rural to not rural
parts of this country where like the concept of going
to Switzerland, they might as well be going to fucking Venus.
It doesn't even make sense.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
To them about it, right, Like, It's be honest, if
there were no passports, passports or need for passports, I
think a lot more Americans would travel abroad, don't you.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
It's a price too, dude, It's a price. It's the
having the time off, like if you're committing to go
overseas for the most part, unless you're just like kind
of hit it and quit it. I don't know. Maybe
you're in your fucking early twenties or something and you've
got it in you to do two international. Maybe you're
a will Osprey type and you just love international flights. Right,

(25:27):
most people are getting on a plane and going for
what at least a week. Yeah, you know, of course
a week, two weeks like to people from other parts
of the world.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Well that's great because rustle Mania is a full week.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
So oh yeah, it'll take your fucking thirty six hours
on the plane there, fucking forty hours maybe on the
way back. I don't know. It's just like I said,
I can't stand the phony make believe, Like, I know
you're selling this to these people. I know you're bullshooting
them by saying to them like, oh, we can make

(26:01):
you guys look so good, so good that people in
Arizona are going to be like, yeah, man, we got
to get on that plane, we got to go. You know,
a family in Texas is like, Jesus Christ, do you
know why don't we spend thirty seven thousand dollars to
go to Like it's not going to happen. It's just
not a thing that is going to occur. But still,

(26:23):
like I said, it's it's it's bullshit jargon. Businessman. He
knows that, yeah, it kind knows.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Sad well, he goes on right. He continues on with
the interview, and he says WWE has received a number
of different offers from entities outside of the US, and
to me, as I try to help lead the company,
it's all about relationships. A word used too often in
our business is partnership. But when you're actually partners with
somebody and you can all and you can all them

(26:53):
and say or call them Jesus and say there's an
issue with this, can we fix it? Yeah? No problem
that is Turkey and Saudi Arabia have done with us repeatedly.
When Turkey expressed interest in having it here, we got
together for a couple of different meetings, worked out the
deal in the short order, and had the good fortune
of announcing it the day before Canelo Crawford our first

(27:15):
fight together in Las Vegas. So apparently that's the issue,
is that WWE is having financial issues, because I mean
that's if you're reading between a line. Sure, yeah, he's like, ah,
we're not looking at making a lot of money on
this one. Can you help us out.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
I've got plenty of money, so much money. It's so
funny to be just like the framing of that where
it's like, yeah, we had to work out some of
the manw shirts, Like no, you're just saying give me
fucking insane amounts of money.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
How about three suitcases? Can you guys slide over three suitcases? Sure?

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Sure, Yeah, they're like, yeah, don't worry about it. We'll
just I don't know, spring another league somewhere, get some more.
Like I don't know, dude, it's just fucking absurd of
me to hear this shit. Orb certain to me, I
should say, to hear this type of shit, we know
exactly what it is. We get it. And like, obviously
the backlash is still happening with the comedy Festival and shit,

(28:11):
like I'm still seeing media about that now. It's like
Bill burrayed his balls. I think he completely fucked himself
in the long run with that. That Whitney Cummings was
getting shit about it, which it's like, yeah, I guess
if you're the person that's like, hey, ladies, I'm a
you know, big old feminist and then you're going over
to Saudi Arabia yeah, it is a dog shit look,

(28:32):
but we expect different from wrestlers at this point in wrestling,
because we know it's all tied into this company that
like they sell their mother's dentures. If he gave him
the right price. Sure, you know they don't care. Like
we get that. Like so to hear Nick Cohn even
just go through this regamarole. It's for it's for an
audience and one it's for the Turkey man.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Oh of course, it's for you.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
It's for your excellency. That's it. Nobody else.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Now do you think that's going to be Well, here's
here's the reality of it, though, too, is how many
other countries are going to travel to Saudi Arabia for WrestleMania.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Outside of even America? I got, Yeah, I don't know America. Yeah, god,
I don't know. I mean, I just I think there
were plenty of people that would look at it and say,
I'm good. I'm good, because, like I said, I don't.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Let's let's play the fucking the mister Damas type game here.
Do you expect WrestleMania in Saudi Arabia to have a
better turnout than WrestleMania's here in the us, or do
you expect it to be one of the lowest WrestleManias
or do you think it'll be like a happy medium
where it's just another fucking WrestleMania twenty three or some

(29:43):
shiit twenty four.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Well, that's a nice thing about like the show in
North Korea. Remember the wrestling show in North Korea. Yeah,
where they're like, hey, go, yeah, I was there. I
was so yeah, I was in the third row. It
was great.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
Man.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
You should have seen the way that Wrecky the Dragon
steamboat came out. Didn't look didn't look uncomfortable at all.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I'll sing on cue and yeah, no it's great and
I had like a little paper sign and it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Ud, they'll put people in that bill, don't put him
in there. It ain't gonna look bad. Let's put it
that way. And even if there's some spots in that
building that might not have people in it, Uh No,
the people that are runt of those cameras will know
for the good of their lives to not shoot that.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
So what you're saying is that they're gonna be a
little loose at the gates. Huh little look both ways. Well, dude,
is it gonna be like that scene and Gladiator, where
like before the game start they had a guy running
around with like a wagon throwing bread into the audience
because they haven't eaten in weeks. Like, is it gonna be.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
One of those literally bread and circus? Yeah, I know
that's where we are, truly, Well that's it, man, is
here in the States right we have waning feelings on
you know, what people call human rights violations. You know,

(31:14):
like we look at it sometimes and we're like, hey,
cut it out, you know, but well, hey, hey.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
You know mistreating those people, Why don't you you stop
doing that?

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Why didn't you do that a long time ago? And
then just do it less and less over time and
then find ways to keep doing it, you know, like
a civilized place like us, not like there. There is
a point where people in other parts of the world
they see horror and they have a human reaction to it,
as opposed to what we tend to do in the States.

(31:49):
Is where we look at it and we weigh our options.
You know, we go, well, they bone saw that guy,
But Cody Roads versus a punt, I mean, where will
I again?

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Other than which one's drawing better ratings on TV. I
guess that's what matters, right.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Take this aw to the bones, cut them up.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Fucking Cody Roads. I don't know who did. Who the
fuck is sitting around, like I said, in any other
part of the world and thinking to themselves, boil boy,
gotta get those tickets to go to Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
I don't know, man. I think that's the other thing too,
is I almost would want to go out of the
sheer curiosity of it. This is the first time this
has even been pitched in forty fucking years, right, Like,
and of all the places that have hosted WWE, that
have had a following of WWE, Saudi Arabia is not

(33:01):
on my list. If they went to the UK, they
went to England, yeah, okay, no problem. They wanted to
do another tour in Canada, sure dude. Even if they
chose Mexico, I would have been like, yeah, that makes sense.
They have so many fucking popular Mexican luchas, and WWE
right now makes perfect sense with the world's collide stuff.

(33:23):
Saudi Arabia is not on my list at all. I
want to know, ju Rico, I'd be like, fucking let's go.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
You know, it's right. Well, I mean, dude, if you
got to think about it, it's on a lot of
people's bucket lists. And by that, I mean that they
are afraid that they'll end up getting put in a
bucket if they go there. Like, don't go there, They're
gonna put you in a bucket. I think I should
reframe that. Yeah, Like, dude, it's strictly for the money. Oh,

(33:51):
strictly for this fucking guy to just appease him. And
like we have to know when I think accept going
forward that we're just getting to be told bullshit by
these companies whatever it's gonna be. Dude, we're not far
off from like the NFL going over there, the NBA, Like,
we're right, they were all sent to the NBA over

(34:13):
to China when China was having all its issues. These
people don't care. They don't have fucking souls. They just
want money, right right. It doesn't fucking mean much at
this point, it really doesn't. And truthfully, maybe the nicest
thing that's gonna be about this upcoming WrestleMania is we're
gonna get to watch that at what, uh two o'clock
in the afternoon once a Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Maybe they'll start it like hate in the morning hopefully,
you know, dude, even if they wanted to do it
in fucking Japan. You I mean, seriously, as far as
wrestling goes, how much of an interest would there be
if fucking WrestleMania happened in Tokyo. Like I just it
just seems like there's so many ways to build up

(34:56):
WWE without resorting on Saudi money. I would imagine even
if they have the crossover with all the Japanese promotions
out there. I mean, we know that they have, you know,
Lines in the Sand with Marigold and potentially NJPW as well.
I just don't understand why Saudi Arabia eventually, And I

(35:16):
know you're saying it's just the money, but if they're
looking at the legacy of the company, mattering, If once again,
this is TKO making an investment not in the short
term but in the long term and trying to milk
the success that Vince built for a positive for a
different era, this is not I don't think this is
the strategy. I think this is the burn all your

(35:38):
bridges as fast as you can grab the money and
go before we dump the fucking thing. And maybe the
Saudi Arabia WrestleMania is almost like, how do you want
to put it? It's the first wound. It's to try
and get people used to the pot before they turn
on the heat.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah, they're letting us know. They're letting the viewing audience
know that just like yeah, wear complete pigs horse in
a way that's like which going back to just you know,
wrestling history and any sort of understanding of that outside
of the sphere of meltzery and belief. Uh, it's always
in a disgusting pighore business. We know that, and we've

(36:14):
we've subtly slowly accepted it, and we look for the
positives did it? But this is like cartoonishly so right,
do you know what I mean? Like they're really just
like mashing it into your fucking face. By the way, Also,
I think it's great. Pat's gonna probably end up having
to go over there, which I I don't know what's

(36:34):
good like all right, so I'm sure Pat's probably solicit.
I'm wondering if he's gonna go over there with Brett,
which with bread.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, bread, Pat's gonna be the bread guy. That's awesome.
People are gonna love Pat.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Bread Heart Angle, Kurt Angle is gonna go over Oh wow, boy,
Brett kurd Angle, Teddy Long, Oh, Teddy, No, that's a
long flight for a man his age, like not even bet,

(37:12):
that's a long long way to sit. You think he's
gonna get out there and they're gonna he's gonna be like,
what's up players, and they're gonna be like, what's what
we're playing? What do you want? Long?

Speaker 1 (37:29):
This is gonna be like show me all the white women,
you know, Like it's just Teddy Long being out there
is just ridiculous. It's ridiculous, stoppish.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
But but also at the same exact time, we could go, oh,
that's kind of silly. I can't imagine about that. But
you never know what resonates with people, I guess until
you see it just in the same exact way where
it was like when who was it when Yo was
in Puerto Rico and they all loved her or you
or Kyro I.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Can't remember, I was Eo. It was definitely definitely not Kyrie.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
So yeah, yeah, my bad, what was it? Like? They
just yeah, sorry, who knows, Maybe Teddy will go there
and they're like, oh, yes, back down, yeah. Fifteen years ago, we.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Just had like hundreds of thousands of people going play
a playoff. It's a tag team match, you got, I.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Love the idea to take. He comes out and he's
wearing the fucking headdress. He's just oh my god, Teddy,
I's like, I'm a be a Saudi citizen.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Now.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
He just moves over there.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Permarently would be oh Amy Angle. Maybe Joey's doing the
fucking robot.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Oh yeah, I'm doing a chopping choppy were you were
choppying a little bit earlier and now when I'm chopping, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
I think it's going on back and forth. So I
kind of wanted to flip it over though. Oh in
real quick shout out to Pat as Well, who is interviewing.
I guess he's doing an interview with Nanny night Heart
on the tenth and Yeah, Saugus Mat said, ninety eight
Broadway the Kowloon.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah, anybody that's from the Metro Bust and area knows
what the Kwloon is, which the Kowloon is a gigantic
Chinese restaurant that they're chomping at the bit to turn
into gray condos.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
I can't wait, Like the kow Like they're just gonna
make condos. They go off for Rovin.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
They're like, see it kind of looks like the Great
Wall of China.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Goda form America needs one of those. If America could
build their own kowloon, it'd be fucking wonderful. Can you
just imagine a place where the government can't even go Oh,
I'm sure it'd be wonderful.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Well, I was laughing. I thought you met like a
Great Wall of China, and I was looking at myself, like,
imagine the advertisements on that wall. Yeah, imagine the fucking
if we built the Great Wall of Whatever Appalachia, Well,
and it would just be covered fucking guy co ads.
It would be you know.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
You know, speaking of low trust for the company and WWE,
the vision obviously turned against World Heavyweight Champion Seth Rollins,
but according to Mike Johnson, a p W insider, the
angle was done because Rollins had suffered an injury at
the Crown Jewel pl on Saturday in Australia. While there
were claims of Rollins being legitimately hurt once again, good

(40:26):
Old Dave Melter noted that the lack of trust within
WWE is said to be in an all time high
because of the previous rollins injury from Saturday Night's made
event that turned out to be a storyline for SummerSlam.
Melter said, quote one source with knowledge of creative, what
what does that even mean? One source? I have knowledge

(40:49):
of creative, I know they exist.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Oh, I swear it. I knew that I did it,
but I did not do it. I did.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
One source with knowledge of creative said that the Vision
were booked for plans together throughout Rustlemania, including with Austin
Theory joining the group, before things changed to today. They
were told it was from an injury in the match
with Cody Rhodes, but after being told his other injury
was legit, many are not fully believing anything right now.

(41:19):
No shit, Well I'll tell you. I'll tell you what
my theory is. I think he's I think he's pregnant again. Well,
I mean this is a you know, you don't want
to get out of cornette on him, but I mean,
come on, dude, you got to be a little bit safer,
you know. Yeah, he's gonna he's gonna have a fucking

(41:40):
a butt baby. You gotta do it like those yeah,
those Japanese prostitutes.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Man. Yeah, well that's how he got there in the
first place.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
No, but the butt stuff is okay, Oh.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Well that's where that's where the baby's coming out of
seth though.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Oh I'm sure it's I'm sure it's coming out as phole.
Little baby just squeeze out out there.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
It's just and then all of a sudden, you just
here a second and it's just a baby.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
The baby's making the same noise.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
It's uh.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
Comes back with a new back tattoo, that'd be great.
Huh step coming back with a tramp stamp. Remember when
Bray Whyte got a tramp stamp and everybody was like, Ah,
what the fuck are you doing?

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Bro? Yeah, he's like I wanted to I wanted to
have a fun vacation in Mexico.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
I wanted to channel the dark darkness from my butthole.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Me and the girls got mashing low back.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Nikki said this was a great idea.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
I was asked what tribe I'm alone too? Yeah, I
fucking can't fathom thing as ship one way? Like all
right at this point too, If, like I said the
other day, if this is all a big.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Ruse, he I fooled you.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
A gang, anything bad that happens to him going forward.
I don't give a like quite literally go fuck yourself
at that point. Like if if the following month he
was like I broke my hamp, he'd be like, yeah,
well that's what you get right, putting that into the
fucking Like I'm not even mister you know Tarot Card,
you know, Universe Energy guy. But there's only so many

(43:30):
times you could pull some ship like that before like
it gets, it gets to you, it comes back.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I agree with pins of the chat room. He says
they should replace Seth with Andrade. Yeah, just don't tell
anybody either, Just fucking do it.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
He got.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
I am vision, I make vision.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
I see like that's it, Like he just does sets,
whole promo and broken sh bron just looking at it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's right. Honest to god. I if he's really actually
hurt and he's off television, I consider that to be

(44:12):
a gift. I really do, because I've just I'm beyond
exhausted with the guy, have been forever, but once again
now because we've already done this dopey shit with like
m I hurt or why not, I'm not going to
get excited until I see the footage of him in
Nashville getting his arms sot open. Yeah, this now though,
all right?

Speaker 1 (44:32):
You know, so the Fightful people chimed in with the
same shit, right, and they followed it up by basically
saying that WWE had bron Breaker and Bronson Reid attack
Rollins on Raw, which was hinted to Fightful was a
heavy creative pivot without being explicitly stated. Fightful spoke to
a source in ww and we spoke to a thought

(44:55):
in WWE that indicated that they'd heard a bron Breaker
split originally wasn't planned or in the cars until next year.
Something that eboo from that, Yeah I heard previously. Yeah,
I mean, Jesus Christ, well, is this really a fucking newstory?
I thought there might have been something to reading the
headline on this, but no, there's literally nothing. A heavy

(45:18):
creative pivot. Yeah, if if if Cody Rhodes got shot
in the leg and he can't wrestle next month, the
chances are they're gonna have to change their plans the fuck.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Well, how I'm just laughing at the idea of them
just sitting there being like, Cody, are you sure you
can't wrestle? They probably still make poor Cody Roads.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Right, it's just a flesh wound, right, come on.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
He just comes out. He's like, so I was shot.
I'm shot with a gun.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
My dad, my dad was shot with a gun. I
love my dad.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Like, yes, yes, we know. He was my dad. He
once told me, he said, son, if you're gonna ever
pulled the trigger, you better aim and check twice. It's like, okay, Cody,
we know you got shot.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
But my dad, my dad was never shot. Being the
WWE World Champion.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
He never got his shot. I did. Like, Cody's really
making it rough, like he is.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Doing him very fucking favors though they really aren't doing
him any favors. I get it. Cody's tired stick of
you know, daddy and the road's name gets a little
fucking tiring after a while. It was cool for the
first two years, three, three years, but I mean we're
still doing this promo this many years later, Like, ah,

(46:51):
come on, dude, You've you've got to have some kind
of evolution, right, There's got to be something more to
your character. Like I'm almost to the point, Joe where
it's like, just bring out the wife and the dog.
Just fucking do it already, please.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
That's that is such a real boy. That's a tough
that's a tough one.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Tough I have with CBO on Flex. Do you guys
need well CBO on Flex.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Now and listen. I mean this in a way to
where I'm clearly trying to be hurtful, but not Can
we just have the dog? Can we just have the dog?
I mean dogs? I like the dog. Dog seems pretty cool.
But yeah, no, we don't need Brandy, although I must

(47:38):
say I kind of feel like now, like if we
want to talk about like change right and you know,
taking your perspective and putting it in a different way
after all the shit that happened with AW. Even as
annoying as Brandy was at points, she probably was still
better than most of those people in that company as

(48:00):
far as like being a Yeah, it's like being a
person being tolerable, you know, Like was she good in
the Ring? Of course not?

Speaker 1 (48:08):
But like but that's not even why, that's not even
why WWE hired her, Right, So the reason that she
still has positive attributes is because ww still had that
vetting process for her to even get on TV, and
WWE means there was something more to her that they
saw creatively or otherwise, you know that that made her
more valuable than I don't know half the people that

(48:31):
are vetted in. Aw, that's true.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Well, how about this, you gotta trade out. This will
probably be easier for you than may at this point,
because I know you got your people you already don't like. Yeah,
trade three women out on WWE's active roster for Brandy. Yeah,
who are you taking? Who's getting right off TV? And
Brandy's going on?

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Oh? T Mello? No, no, no wwteh WWE? Oh shit.
You know I would say it just to be mean,
but probably Kyrie, Yeah, I know, k Yeah, Kyrie like Kyrie.
I'm sorry. I know everybody loves her and they all
wife who her and ship, but I just know she

(49:17):
nails on a chalkboard. To me, she's the new Maria,
She's the new Live. She just I'm not.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Well, at least at least. It's just annoying and occasionally
hurting people.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
It's not right or.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Herself. Honestly, I think that's I think Naya Jacks is
a very fair answer. I think that's very fair also.
And god, I mean I feel like I am just
I am losing my ship right now. Something so off
with me, But I think that this would be an
easy trade. I would trade Ava for Brandy.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
I know Ricky would, that's for sure. You see that.
You see that fucking shot the other day, I was
laughing my ass off. Somebody capped too. But on NXT
he was looking right up her dress man. He was
on the ground looking right at some rockcoutie.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
So well, first, like the picture I saw, I was like,
did he get a TBI? What happened to him? Like
you could just see like it was very blank. His
face was very blank. But uh, I mean, but the
blanker than Avis, which is crazy.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
He was just checking. He wasn't sure, it was just
checking himself well.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
And he just looks at him. He goes, why are
you gay? Who says that I am gay? You'll find
says you wacky? Yeah? Uh yeah, no dude, yeah, I would,
honest to God put Brandy Rhodes as a commissioner of
NXT before the rock shitty daughter. She would do a

(50:44):
better job. Like that's that is fair? Like this this
is like I said, sometimes you just go full circle
right where you look at some people and they act
like such idiots, but then other people act like even
worse idiots, and it makes them look better in comparison.
That's wrestling and life at a nutshell. Sometimes you sit

(51:04):
around and you go, well, that guy was a fucking dick,
and then you meet people that are even worse and
you go, actually, they weren't so bad, right.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
It's the measurement of how awful people are. Hey, look,
you know, speaking of awful or potentially awful. We're not
really sure. Aw had internal talks earlier this year Joe
about building a new dedicated training center similar to WWE's
Performance Center. The idea includes a full development system and

(51:32):
is reportedly based in Asheville, North Carolina. A Steele was
rumored to leave the effort before leaving the company. Yeah,
this would have been a much larger project, with a
coaching lineup featuring Dax Hardwood, Catch Wheeler, Beth Phoenix, and
Adam Copeland. The goal was to create a clear path
for new AW talent development. The plan got far enough

(51:55):
along that some talent like Stingstun Stephen Borten reportedly preparing
to train in Ashville, but ultimately the project was halted
because it would have simply cost too much. AW did
have the Nightmare Factory for a while, but that relationship
dried up when Cody Rhoades left for the W The
w W A oh dah.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
By the way, do you know how funny it is
for me to hear them say, man, we were looking
for a warehouse in the Carolinas and it was just
too much money.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Yeah, but knowing Tony Kahn, he probably wanted to turn
it into the Jacksonville kind of training facility.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Right right, yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Unfortunately, money guy isn't going to train wrestlers in the warehouse.
Money guy is going to train wrestlers in like a
sauna in a spa.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
He wants he needs it to feel like for his
own sake to have people walk out of it and
be like that was amazing, right, What an amazing experience
it was to go to the aw train facility or
whatever the fuck it's like. Truthfully, man, you could probably
in the Carolinas, you could probably go finding old fucking

(53:09):
I don't know, aimes, go find a closed down TJ
Max and just make it into a fucking place, an
old grocery store, like any of these buildings.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Like how malls are shutting down across the country right now,
how many malls would just pick up that Tony Kahan paycheck,
and you could just make a room for each wrestler.
Each storefront is just a different wrestler in the company.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
He's just just just like random kids say, they're like, oh,
DIBs on lids.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
You know, I want the player's boutique.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Listen here, nube, you got to move into the into
the fucking abandon sparrows.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Hey, you're going in this cinebun enjoy life.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Yeah, well, at least it smells good in there, so.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Don't mind all the roaches and rats that are still
there from fucking twenty years ago.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Oh man, No, you know what it is funny when
you think of it that way, where it's like, man,
we just couldn't. It just wasn't economically viable. I'm like, guys,
you do you think once again just gaslighting? I guess
you could call it that. It's like, do you think
we know that you didn't, like, spend hundreds of thousands
of dollars to play fucking songs during their pay.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Per view right right?

Speaker 2 (54:20):
That you couldn't just go buy a building somewhere in
one of these places for five hundred, six hundred grand.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
Yeah, But dude, they got sticks to play for the
young bucks.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
I love the ideas of like just put just putting
it in context, right, like because to him, you know,
it's like a couple bucks, you know, like a like
going to get this old man and just buying himself
a performance center. Yeah, He's like, man, I still got

(54:53):
a fucking gift card with Strawberries that I'll never be
able to leave.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
Dude, I got two million dollars on his gift card.
It's still good.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Like, by the way, I have to I have to
point that out. How funny that is. The people that
weren't living for this to happen. There were two opposing
records stores, Coconuts and Strawberries. That was the name of
the places. They were like, like, hey, you wanted to
have anything to do with music, They're like, no, it's
fucking Mangoes and Jackfruit. Just fucking go there. Shit.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Andccer Tower was a bud Tower wasn't world wide.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
But tower was a place that people stole steeds from,
like fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
At my high st they had fucking snipers for security
guards in Chicago, man, like even.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Back in the nineties. Yeah, no, yeah, we didn't have
that around here. There was the two places that everybody
stole their music from. Uh you know, I mean, but
before the Internet became obviously number one, it was no
no Tower Records.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Mario is right. I totally forgot about Sam Goody. Fucking man.
I don't even know if I've ever been in a
Sam Goodie. I know they were everywhere. It was like
a rumors like, oh man, did you go to the
same Goodie nowhere? Is it? Oh? Well, if you know,
you know, like it was just awre.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
But you know what's funny is like people name all
these places and I think to myself, I'm like, at
some point I ended up in all of them, and
they've all escaped me.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
You know, have you been to fa?

Speaker 4 (56:17):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Yeah, you ever been the same Goodie? Oh yeah, you
ever been to this place? Yeah? It's like, do you
remember any of it? No? It was probably literally a
quarter of a centi right now. But like I guess
to put that in perspective, like that's for us going
and buying like an album back in the day.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
By oh, that's all gone, dude. All the media places
are gone, dude, what is it? Best buy dried up
all of their music and media section. They don't even
have that, but now they have anime toys, so good
for best Buy.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
I guess going into best Buy at this point is
like when you go just somebody's house after they break
up with their significant other. Yeah, it's like the apartment's
like just fucking half empty.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Like going into a fucking house fire and just trying
to grab whatever is like valuable left.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Because but the analogy I was getting to have peakan
buying a fucking building and being like, this is so
important for me and I want to do this for
my company. That'd be the same thing as us being like, yeah, sorry,
I gotta get a I gotta go buy the smash
Mouth album in nineteen ninety nine, instead of something that's
actually important to me, you know, like something that could

(57:20):
change the lives of hundreds of people. You're just like, yeah,
I don't know, I really Yeah, the young Bucks need
to come out to mister Roboto. That's way more important,
you know.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Street Fighter throws up the old Circuit City. Dude, I
think those old Circuit City buildings would be awesome wrestling centers. Yeah,
I hume around man, Yeah, well I mean that that shell,
that giant fucking tower, that red tower with the Circuit
City fucking emboldened like sign on the side. Yeah, just
rip that sign down. Put in like you know Tony

(57:54):
Khan's NEPO Baby Wrestling Center.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
You you just put a I don't know, like a
big a big picture of Nick and Matt Jackson.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Oh yeah, cool. And you could do it like the
Pep Boys where they just got their heads up there.
That'd be great. Come on in and learn.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Nothing, stay for fifteen years, never get any better. It's
the young Bucks way. No, that is that is really
fucking funny when you take into account where he's just eh,
we just couldn't find a way to make that work financially.
It's like, mean, why you've just bought fucking magic beans,

(58:34):
like on public record for seven six seven years? Oh,
I just got to buy all this bullshit, I guess
instead of something that I assumed to care about. He didn't.
He didn't actually want to do that. Let's be real.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
I think I would have if Cody was still around
and see him Punk was still around. I bet you. Look,
you can throw Beth and Adam Adam Cope out there
as much as you want in Dax and Fracks hardwood,
but the reality is is if he still had Cody
Rhoades and see him punk, I think he would have
absolutely given them the money to build a performance center.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Q T.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Marshall would be smoking some big fat cigars right now.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Man, well, he'd be smoking on something big. Holy fuck,
that guy is the biggest fucking tap dancer. Oh my god,
how much money has he made doing fucking fuck all?
That's what you mean.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
He's trained a lot of talent of tomorrow Joe. Yeah,
then he trained Nick Camarado, Like I said, the talent
of tomorrow. Yeah what tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (59:38):
How far away are we talking? Uh? Yeah, No, It's
like it's crazy to take into account that, like Tony
Kahan and you know, oh, we're gonna go to the
Carol Imands. I want to build this play, sell this
other shit. And you're right in some extent, I guess
where if you did have Beth Phoenix there, she could
probably actually teach women some shit. That'd be neat.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
So I bet you want somebody like an Aj Lee
to do that, right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Well no, I think that. I mean, if he has
Dak nearby, he can run his class on crying. That'd
be good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
And the next Quaes and the next time, cash can
tighten up your aim for you a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
You know, it's target practice with old catch. Yeah. No,
I mean, how about you just actually make the people
that you currently employ half decent? First?

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
I know I'm far out there. I mean, aside from
obviously Dave Meltzer, who, like he said, Dominic Mysterio half
of the AW roster is apparently better than Dominic Mysterio,
which is adorable, actually adorable. Oh, I remembered the context.
I remember how he framed this too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
It was to lose who was it? Oh? Because Russev
Russev beat Dom? Right, I'm sorry, don beat Russev And
Meltzer was referencing the factory. He's like, Rusev wouldn't do
jobs in AW. He's like, can you believe that Russev
would lose to Dom but not people at AW. It's like, yeah,

(01:01:13):
fucking moron. Of course, of course he'd lose to people
in WWE who are actually over and like in the
Intercontinental Champion over, like who fucking Mike Bailey.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
But that really shows you the level that Dave is
at when he's even questioning the wrestler's decisions based upon
what he feels is more valuable in aw Right. So
you have to look at it from the premise that
Dave is looking at Russev as a guy who doesn't
understand his value. He thinks Rusev is so stupid or

(01:01:45):
so unaware of how his public view is that losing
to Dominic doesn't make sense to Dave Meltzer because there
were so many other people in aw that he could
have lost to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
You know, it's no, yeah, he missed out. That's what
you're saying. Is you miss out on the opportunity, haven't
I know? But it's like, yeah, you man, you miss
out on the chance of having good matches with Daniel
Garcia or something. Which is he still Is he still
a thing?

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Daniel Garcia? I mean, is he still wrestling?

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
It?

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Was he really ever a thing?

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
I mean, oh you know what I mean, it's just
like it exists that he's on the television show. They're
still doing that boy's regular one hundred and sixty pounds
personality of a dead dog. Still doing that after six years.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
I mean, isn't that like half the roster? That's I mean, shit,
look wrong. Peter Rosenberg did Chris van Vlitt and he
talked about who would be the best choice for Johnson
his final opponent, and he said Edges the guy. I mean, again,
I don't know exactly what his deal is. I know

(01:02:54):
there's been some speculation that it could be up. Maybe. Yeah,
the ones that could happen are the ones that are
remote possible. Edge would be the one. Listen if it's
Edge or Randy for John's top opponent of all time. Sure,
I know people will say the rock and then there's Punk,
and that's a good reason to say them both. But
to me, peak John Cena true champ babyface scene, the Supersena,
Edge was the foil and Edge was such a great foil.

(01:03:16):
So to me, of the ones that are out there
that exist even more than Batista, it should be Edge.
But again we have no idea. I mean, in Boston
for Saturday night's main event, they pull out Edge, they
debut Edge as John Cena's final opponent. What does that do?

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Yeah, I mean I've just never been an Edge guy
to begin with. But like, I still think he's like
one of the most overrated, overblown I think just because
people haven't seen him in a while, it'd be like
whoa Edge fucking crazy. But then like the reality would
settle in that people have seen this match two hundred times,
Like I don't, I don't know. Like I said, this

(01:04:03):
is just feels like a gen It's like a generational
pop right, It's what they've it's what they remember, it's
what they imagine where they were. Like, the craziest thing
that John Cena did was that fifteen matches with Edge
that were all the fucking same.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Yeah, it wasn't John Cena's best matches. It wasn't even
Edge's best matches. I'm I'm a little surprised at Rosenberg
looks back on it so fondly, especially for a guy
in a different company. You know, there was talk earlier
with Our Truth. He did an interview talking about the
fact that John Cena giving him Ron Cena, or allowing
him to do Ron Sena was wonderful for him. But

(01:04:42):
I would honestly like to see Our Truth as John
Cena's last opponent. I'm still sticking to that for as
much as he's been a cheerleader for John Cena. Hell,
it technically got him his job back, even though they
immediately turned him into an angry, militant guy and then
switched it back.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Right away and barely showed him ever again.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
And then forgot about him. But I I like Ron
Truth enough, I like Our Truth enough that I wouldn't
I wouldn't be upset if that was his last match too,
I'm retire a double retirement.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
And honestly, that's that That would be a funny like
remember the old shot of where it was like a
triple h and Sean Michaels and the Undertaker walking out,
yeah a while back, Like that would be so amusing
if it was Sena and Our Truth like all right,
but it would.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Make sense for the wrestling fans, especially for those of
us that have been following both of these guys forever.
It would it's almost like, you know, the perfect sunset
to have both of them go out together. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Well, I still thinking as little as I like Edge,
and like I said, I don't, I don't see that
as like last match material or whatever. But if that
was a scene or a shot right where it was
like both Sena, Edge and I don't know who else
what other fucking kuber could retire in the mix here

(01:06:10):
and we could send off into the sunset.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Yeah, but see, I don't know. There's not so many
guys really left up at that age, right. I see
Drew and much loved to Drew Ardi in the experience.
He says, it really wouldn't make sense. But that's just
me and I wholeheartedly disagree. I think our truth is
at the twilight of his career, He's been very focused
on his music lately. I don't know if you've been
paying attention, but the dude has dropping music left and right.

(01:06:32):
He seems to be at the point of his career
that in ring active competition isn't as important to him.
And I'm not saying that the guy's like lazy or
anything like that. I'm just saying it doesn't seem like
he has a lot more to venture for. I don't
see him running around with the world title, nor do
I even see himself being put in that contention. Our
truth is that even though the guy looks thirty five,

(01:06:54):
he really isn't. So no, you know what I mean,
Like it's one of those things. And as far as
why it does make sense is our truth himself is
saying that the biggest point of his career, one of
the nicest things that happened in his career was Ron
Sena was his attachment to John Cena. So what a
better way to go out than with the guy who's

(01:07:14):
been around since Jesus, since k Quick days, since road
Dog and k Quick like since those days, with John
Cena to retire together. And I know it's just fantasy
booking and shit like that, and we do that every
once in a while, but it makes sense to me
because it's a guy that absolutely respects. I think they
both respect each other. Clearly, John Zena respects our truth.

(01:07:34):
Why wouldn't he. It's just I don't know, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Well, I would like and maybe this is just you know,
because similarly, like I said, when I really still think
that Booker T and Trick Williams should have something or
should have had something resembling a feud. Yeah, I would
like truths to go down to acts.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Tea better than the other day his drugs.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Oh Leo Rush.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Oh no, Leo, Mark Henry Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, I forgot about that. I'm not carrying
anybody's bed right fucking smell.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
I thought it was a Booker T's bag for a second, like, no, no,
it was. Mark Henry was.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Even sillier because well not that Booker t is not
a big guy either, but still, yeah, I mean that
would be interesting to see, like for Truth to go
down there and just like we see what's going down
there at NXT right, like this is this is the
next generation of black talented wrestlers, right. So if Truth
went down there and did something and helped put some

(01:08:38):
guys over and had some matches and ship like, I
wouldn't be upset about that either. Now, I mean, is
that a departure from walking out here with John Cena. Yeah,
But at the same time, that's kind of been our
Truths thing. He's always been giving. He's always been somebody
that's there to just entertain and help out and make
the show better. Yeah, And I think in that sense

(01:09:00):
that's where that would work for him.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Well, and I agree with you too. I mean, when
you're talking about trainers, we went from Regal being the
guy an NXC back in the day to Sean being
the guy today. I absolutely see room for a guy
like our Truth being down in an NXC or even
when we were talking about it on Tuesday or last week,
I believe when we were discussing about LFG about who

(01:09:22):
would replace you know some of these coaches, some of
these you know, the Michelle McCool undertaker. Who else would
be in there. One of the names we didn't bring
up was Our Truth, But I mean, in hindsight looking
at it, I would love to see Our Truth running
a season in LFG.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
He would be very good at that. Yeah, he would
be very very good in that role. But this is
also where like they're going to keep this shit going.
I'm sure it's dir cheap for them to make, and
apparently it's doing pretty good ratings wise, enough for them
to make three seasons at this point. Yeah, so I
don't think it's going anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
The newest episode, the final episode of season two, is
up with Lovely LuFisto and Jeff Lippman. And I'm not
trying to say somebody called me. You said Jeff Flipman lovely.
I mean, I guess he can be, but I can't
even be lovely. Why can't Jeff be lovely? Lovely Jeff Flipman, Yes,
I mean it would be.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Better than being called like voluptuous. You want to go,
I mean call it man lovely. I don't know if
a guy want to be.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
You don't want to say that show either what a
what a decadence man delicious No, But yeah, no, ALFG
is doing pretty well. I mean, I don't know if
it's at the levels of tough enough from back in
the day, but there's a lot more to it. It

(01:10:43):
flows a lot better. I know. The controversy around Michelle
McCool still exists. I saw her fielding questions we I
think I'm not sure if we talked about that on
Frank and Gos, but you know, her kind of fielding
questions about why fans believe that the only reason she
has a job is because of her husband, and it's
kind of like, well, because it is because he did, like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Ye, right, there is this point where like once again
I'm using the same word again, it's like gas lighting
shit right, where it's like, just don't do you think
we're fucking dumb?

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
But dumb man, they work for wrestling, of course they
think all the fans are marks and it's you that's
the problem, I think overall, And we went through the
member berries, you know, with how things were much much
different in the eighties and the way that the wrestling
spoke to the fans, and of course the nineties versus today,

(01:11:38):
it's almost like they've regressed the entire industry in order
to continue the industry, Like we we had to make
the fans stupid again, or at least treat them stupid again,
in order to survive the longevity of cold winters and
no actual stars coming out of the fucking programs.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
You know, it's now, I guess, like to some extent,
like it's like all right, almost spoiler alert in case
any of you guys are listening to this in the
car with your children, which if you are, they get help.
It's like, well, you know, we can tell all the
kids that there's the tooth fairy, right, and it's absurd, like, oh,
someone comes in. There's a person like a fictional character

(01:12:21):
that comes into your house and wants your old fucking
bone fragments. It gives you money for them, Like to
what end is what's happening? Why does any of this
making sense? But you know what, if enough of them
believe it and it makes them happy and they have
a good time with it, and it encourages them where
it's like, hey, my tooths is LuSE and I'm scared
and I don't know what to do with it. Well,

(01:12:42):
when thing falls out, you put it there, you get
a dollar, and they're like, oh cool, I like a dollar? Like,
is that That's almost where we are as far as
like people just blatantly making a ridiculous war shit in
the wrestling world. It's like, yeah, I mean, I'm pretty
sure if Michelle McCool wasn't married to the Undertaker, she'd
still be getting active work in the company. Okay, it's sure.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Your example's kind of a little different than what I
was trying to say, right, but I'll use your example.
So if the tooth Fairy kids are trying to figure
out the tooth Fairy, they understand that it's just dad
or mom putting a dollar under their pillow, and Dad
mom are dead set on this child believing the tooth
Fairy is real. It would be like, if you question

(01:13:26):
the tooth Fairy's existence, there will no longer be money
under your pillow, And now the kids are like, ah, well, well,
what the fuck like of Oh yeah, no, it's dad, mom.
Tooth Fairy totally exists, totally exists. So that's what I
mean about it seems like sometimes the industry is purposely

(01:13:48):
making the fans stupid. Again, not because the fans are stupid,
but because then you don't get a dollar. That's what
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
It's like making a kid pray before a meal, right sure, yeah,
mean Joseph fucking you know what the East pompous. Yeah,
I'm joking. Uh yeah, No, it's it's funny where it's like, listen,
we're gonna have the show. You're probably gonna have probably
gonna have a good time watching it, you know, like it,
but you gotta put up with the Undertaker's boring blanchety wife.

(01:14:18):
That's it. You'll get you'll get other stuff with it too.
But to get Undertaking to show up, his wife's gotta
be there, which still, like I said, and and you
know me, man, I'm not like one of these guys
where like if if somebody loves and respects their partner,
I'm like, what a fucking user. But there is this
point where I'm just like, dude, you just come off

(01:14:38):
like such a like he's coming off more and more
like a pussy the Undertaker at this point in a
way that I'm like, it's it is hurting you. It
is hurting your image. The sucking up to the fucking
Prince Guy, the being a complete fucking suck ass to
your wife to where it's like, oh no, honey, yeah,
we all want you here where we're all hanging out
watching the game. It's like, dude, everybody's go like you

(01:15:01):
look like a turd, like the undertakers by proxy looking
like a turd. But it's like, like I said, it's
stitut's fairy. People want to believe happy with it. They
get their fucking tooth money and they don't care, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
So the headline news, I guess the new Chris Jericho Tour,
the Rock and Cruise of six. I mean, after Andrade Watch,
we had to come up with something big. But the
new rock and Wrestling Rager at Sea Cruise for twenty
twenty six has finally released its lineup. And it's interesting

(01:15:36):
to Dave Melter and other people because there are no
aw stars aboard this cruise none, So it might be
the first we should go to.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Yeah, it might be the person. It's what you're saying,
is this just real wrestlers? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Well here, here here's the list. Right, we have Gabby Spiza,
Chris Van Vlei, Sonny Ono, Wow, Ricky Knight, Junior, Casey Costan,
Costan Zero I don't know if I know her. Lacey

(01:16:17):
Lane dum, oh yeah, Casey is.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
That the girl that Ricka She's ex girlfriend, the one
that does all the karate is American ninja warrior girl.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Oh she's a former gymnast in obstacle race.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Yeah yeah, that sounds like her.

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
Yeah, American ninja right right right, yeah, Lacey Lane will
be there. Hartwell, Indy Hardwell, yeah, Mojabbari, Alicia.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Fo Yeah, I've never seen this guy Wressell. But to
call yourself kid chocolate in twenty twenty five and like
not realize it's hilariously generic. It's kind of awesome. That's
not even tried, dude, Like that's it's like doctor Live,
like that's that's barely a gimmick.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Parting with Alicia Fox could be fun though. Oh oh yeah,
Andy Hartwell would be fun too. I bet you she's
a good party girl.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Drink tickets for uh oh yeah for Alicia.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
Fum Natalie Kova Oh oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
That's it, chicked. It's like really good looking. But I've
never seen wrestle once. I don't know. A. J.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Francis will be there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Oh so, man, so the boat's gonna be pretty much
full at that point.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
Blue Meani wow, Marcus Bagwell, oh Vampiro.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Wait for Bagwell, is it too early to make a
pirate droke.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
Tug boat? Well, I mean if you fits right right,
got ahead, somebody drive the fucking thing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
I like the ideas like tug boats on there. He's like, yeah, yeah,
make sense.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
He's gonna be wearing the shirt and everything. You know.
He is Chatzi Blackheart ra Jade Wow, all right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Cory j because it's Elena Black, That's.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
What it is. Bully Ray, Sorceress of This, Nick Nammoth,
Dave Legreca, Carlito, Ted DBAs the Great Mooda Wow therea
and Jeff Hardy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
I like the Jeff's on it and Matt's not. That's
funny to me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
Matt's how I got all this ship?

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Yeah, man, it's just like the kid's got a soccer
game that week, and Jeff's like, let's fucking go, let's
get sucked up on a boat. Who else is uh yeah,
Guardian Yeah. I don't know who these bands are, just
obviously I know Jered Jericho's band by oh fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
Oh you don't know the Iron Maidens. Come on? What
about the Violent Hour or a little Miss Nasty. Oh man,
I'd love to see little Miss Nasty the Killer Dwarves.

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
That seems this is the Killer Dwarfs. I thought you
said there were no a w wrestling, a.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
Dueling. They didn't even tell you the name of the group.
It's just dueling piano. It's just random people.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
I wonder if.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Paroxa why question mark Jen, sir?

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
I was going to just get to that that is
Jeff Hardy's band. No, I'm dead serious, man, that is
Jeff Hardy's band. It's peroxygen. Why how you say paroxygen?
Is that what he's doing for?

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
But it's spelled parox Why question mark Jen? I don't know, man,
it sounds like another drug.

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
Yeah, yeah, that's one of those like we once again
like where's Intrade? It's like this drugs?

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
Well, how about the comedians? They got stand up comics
on this on this boat with April Macy, JB. Ball
and Marcus monro.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Oh, I feel bad. I don't know those humans. Uh
oh right, Williams is on the Dwarf comic. That guy's
a comic.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
They have they have paranormal activities on the boat as well,
with Sarah Lemos she's a medium and wilf Winifred Schrader
will be doing tarot card readings.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
I kind of like the I like kind of like
just the randomness of this whole thing in a weird
sort of way, like I would never ever want to
fucking do this, like four days on a boat. It's
wrestling people, unless it's people. I already know that sounds
like fucking methodical torture to me. But at least Jericho

(01:21:03):
tries to add some shit in there. Oh no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
I can't that. But let's also be honest, dude, when
you're putting your mixologist on the bill, who is Red
Cup Jeff? Red Cup Jeff, mister mixologist gets a billing?
Do you think that Red Cup Jeff is such a
good mixologist that people are coming from across the world

(01:21:30):
to jump on.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
I'm not here for the wrestlers or the music or
the podcasts. I'm here for Red Cup Jeff. Like you,
he was weird.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
It's funny to me that situation is there is no
shortage of wrestlers who are ex bartenders. Why wouldn't you
just find some of the older guys that used to
be bartenders and have them do it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Well, apparently you've never had a red cup Jeff drink before.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
That's a good point. I mean, I'm sure, like, who
who could I guess who? Do you think? He used
to be a bartender from the early two thousands? Oh
ode DDP?

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
I mean DDP owned a full fucking bar for shit,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Oh yeah that's true. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, you could
get some interesting folks to do that. I don't know.
I see this and I go, at least he's trying
to do something, right, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, no, no I'm not. I'm making fun
of Victor. It's silly, but yeah, no, it's it's more
interesting that he doesn't have anybody from AW on there.
I think that really is the story because obviously it
leads into the idea that Jericho might not be with
aw for very much longer. Here's proof, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Well, in a weird sort of way. It also goes
to show you too that Jericho, while he was talking,
all that shit was just That's all it was. It
was just shit. It was just Yeah, this guy's awesome.
This wrestler is great, and it's like the second hit.
He's not like financially beholden to them or is going

(01:23:08):
to see them the next week. He's like, yeah, I'm
not fucking having them on my cruise when.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
I do that, dude, I'm I'm telling you. When the
Saudi News dropped that Rustlemania was going to be in
Saudi Arabia, Chris Jericho clear his calendar. That's what he did.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure he called his lawyer and
was like, how do I get out of this fucking
thing with Tony Gunn Yep, because that's because that's real.
Once again, Jericho wrestlers wrestling. These people don't have the
same level of fucking expectation that you would for like
a regular ass person. It's just like, hey, you want
to go there and get paid seven hundred fifty thousand

(01:23:45):
dollars absolutely whatever you need me to do. And Jericho
going over there, he's never been I believe right, he
was never in WWE. Yeah, he's never been in He
was not in WWE when they started going to Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Eight years ago. Yeah, once, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Or maybe he one o the ones. Okay, well I'm
surprised that he I'm surprised he ever left the company
after he got that check even for the first visit.
Good yeah, well that surprises me.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
We'll get ready to wrap it up. Much love to
everybody in the chat, Much love to the live listeners
at home listening on the free feed. Much love to
the patroons, Patreon dot com, Forward Slash Wrestling Soup, subscribe
to the YouTube channel. And I much love to Jeff
and lou lu Fisto for pulling off the LFG show.
Check out the Dose of Chocolate every week as well.

(01:24:40):
Check out our friends over on Tuty Talk Wrestling and
as well as Phil Marks over on Pro Wrestle Time.
And yeah, yeah, I think that pretty much Drew Yari
and the experience the RCWR show with Lese Anders and
everybody else. And good luck to Pat when he finally
gets over to Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
So yeah when he's when he over there, du don't worry.
Like what I'll do is like after you go there,
I'll make sure that you know, we get your wrestling collection.
You know, we bet it off. We see if we
I mean if there's a ransom of course too, you know,
but we'll find a way to get you back here.
I mean, whether it be in like a bag or
something or a bucket.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Yeah, we'll just.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
You know, I love he We're trying to get chunks
of our best friend.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Don't make me look it up. I bet you there
is an actual tariff for that. Look. I looked at
all the crazy shit online, the fact that you can buy, sell,
and send nuclear reactors through the mail, and somebody developed
a code, a tariff code for that, and we can't
send chunks of our friend back from Saudi Arabia. I'm

(01:25:50):
just telling it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
I know, I love you. I love the idea. It's
just like they look it up. They're just like, wait,
how good of a friend? Very good friend? Is this
your best did you say best friend? This is your
best friend? Tariff even higher fifteen percent? There you go,
Oh my god on chunks of friends? All right, well
my babe, we could just lie and tell them it's

(01:26:11):
beef jerky. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
There you go. Much love everyone, I'm out.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Of here, say tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
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