BRON BREAKER? HE BARELY KNEW HER! (Wrestling Soup 12.9.25)

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
What we'll do.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Show show. Yes, yes, we do have a show. It
is Tuesday, and it's that time again, like it is
every Tuesday, Joe to talk about how great Monday Night
Raw was.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
It's me on the t cell bandit Age Barrot.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Sure you're not the masks man. I heard a couple
of theories coming through that it could be Joey Numbers
as the masks man.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Oh no, it's Age bear it oh as, Yes, I'm
I'm the masked man aged Barrett. They took they took
Freddy from me.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
It took balls from him.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
So, uh, what do you think about Rahd you have
You're enjoying it?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean you know, there was some highlights,
inadvertent highlights, but there were highlights of the show that
I enjoyed. I was a big, big fan. Oh. By
the way, wrestling soup.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Wrestling soup for a mature audience.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Got killed, got ten million pounds slushed from New York
and New Jersey.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
This starts starts.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
H I am Anthony Thomas and he is Joey Numbers.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, it's we're here for another edition of the Monday
Night rah Post post post.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Show alone show, Yes, post my own show.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
We're here, you know, with a couple of white iverson's
here trying our best. Yeah, so Monday night RAW at
this point, so what time are you starting to watch RAW?
I mean, truthfully, are you watching it right through? Like
right from the start. I know it starts at seven
for you?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yes, okay, you are so no. No, but this is
how it happens for me. I will sit down, I
will start the show. I will watch about ten or
fifteen minutes. I will get sidetracked, the show will continue
to play, and then I have to come back after
whatever time it is that I'm away, rewind everything, catch
up to that, and then hit play. And sometimes I

(02:41):
don't even get finished to the show till the next day,
which is actually what happened today. So I only got
it h me too chance to watch part of it
on Monday, but I finished watching it earlier today.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Well see, I have to do it because I have
the commercial plan, and now they've gotten to a point
where commercials are running it like four minutes in a
fucking tilt. Oh yeah, so yeah, I'm starting like a
half an hour late and then fast forwarding video packages
and parts of you know, five minute advertisements for Geico,

(03:14):
and shit, so.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Did you it's bitts forward past that amazing, Uh, Maxine
Dupree and Natty promo.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I did not, although I feel as though at this point,
I mean, obviously nobody's listening there, but it's almost like
out of spite where in my mind I'm thinking, so
I'm borderline screaming at these people, please don't take this
girl and try to make her badass. So their response is,

(03:47):
let's try to make her into it.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Let's ass, let's try into fucking Chris Benoit just like,
and they blew their fucking load in one week. Dude.
They took a fucking wonderful idea that people were a
buzz about and they tanked it in one week. They
had Natty already tap out. I'm like, why wouldn't you
save that for the fucking ring. They hadn't a montage.

(04:14):
Max Scene went through like all the girls in LFG right,
like that's that's who she was fighting. She went through
all of them. So there's not even like, oh, well,
you know she has to go, you know, make her
bed and grow, and you get to see her grow,
you get to see her become this well honed machine. No. No,
in one promo, she becomes Chris Benoi. Fuck.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Also, it's pretty great because when you think about it,
all this is proving is what some of us have
known for a while, which is apparently Sylvester Stallone is
more capable of writing wrestling storylines than the people who
are writing wrestling currently.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
It's like, it's really writing because I really I had
hope last week. I'm like, well, look at this. Through
all the turd that we saw last week, I'm like, oh,
there's there's a couple of good things. But there it
was a glimmer of hope, right because I think we
all have, you know, a belief that Naddy can do
something more with her career than just exist. And it
was almost a weird thing that Look, they figured it out.

(05:11):
Natty plays the role of a vet. She's clearly got
a legendary family, She's got a legendary status. Why not
use that in favor of building someone up and creating
a storyline around her that doesn't have to involve her
ass And I'm like, that's fantastic. So Nddie being the
gruff around the edges trainer kind of being a little

(05:31):
bit of a brutalist, because that would make sense too, right,
Like Natty is hard on people that would make it
because she's such a lovely, bubbly person in the real world.
That anger has to come out somewhere. What better place
than in the dungeon, you know. And it's like, wow,
this is a really fucking captivating storyline. Wwe had me

(05:53):
for one week.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Almost fool gin They could they could give you, uh
it could give you a taste to something that could
go somewhere.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
In their minds, they're like, well, you know, chop shop,
we want her to be the it girl or whatever.
But it's like, like you said, what is the value
of winning something? If it's that if it's that easily achieved,
it's a one week of training with Natty and now
she's a murderer.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I mean, if if Natty's that good, you need to
start running more bitches through her. I'm just saying, no shit, right,
run them all.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Run Nana, Yeah dude, if Natty, right, if Natty's that
good of a trainer, what are any of them doing
with all these other people? Right?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I mean, either we can just send.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Whatever fucking random bikini model that we got hanging around
to Naddy she's gonna make them into a fucking UFC
fighter in ten days time. Good god, No, it's little
shit like that where it's like, it's not even little,
it's just dumb, lazy hot shotting. It's fucking not creative.

(07:06):
I don't even understand. So so you're right, the hot
shotting part is what bothers.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Me because because they had Natty tap and I'm thinking
to myself while I'm watching this, I'm like, what the
fuck is that for? What does that build up? That
doesn't even make Maxine look like a badass, It makes
it look like a fluke. And it's weird that you
would do it with all this beautiful production and these
the blurred lines and the black and white footage and

(07:30):
the close up of the meanness of Natty's eyes, like
I got it, and then Maxine at the end is
like a guy, no, a girl No.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
I know now Maxine, the tables have turned h.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
The master, the student has become the master.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
It's like, in a fucking week, could give me a break, dude.
It's it's so just really fucking poorly done. It's so
poorly done, and I'm sure somebody would sit here and say,
what do you think they're gonna invest all this time
into Maxi.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
They've already done that. They have for years. They are
They literally just told us like season one of The
Walking Dead in one episode, it's like, oh, you don't
need to watch season two? Like what? All right?

Speaker 1 (08:20):
The Karate Kid written by W. W. E. Ralph Macchio
comes to town. He's bullied. He kicks the ship out
of the kid the next day and roll roll the
fucking credits.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
They wax fuck off.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, Yeah, mister Miyagie just walks in. He just goes
just like waves his hand, yeah, fucking fingers and pokem
in the eye and fucking kick him in the nuts. Thanks,
mister Miyagi. He's like, yeah, I gonna do some blow
see you later for some tea. Yeah yeah, He's like,
I gotta fucking go drink some tea. Funk off.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
It's so rushed, it's so not creative. It's so fucking
anti climax, isn't.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
That's the wild thing, though, Joe, they had something. I mean,
you could have toyed with that idea for what a
month at least, maybe maybe even a little bit longer.
Taking Maxine off TV for a little bit had her
retrained with Nanny, like, they could have done those little
promos and vignettes for a month. They could have done
it all the way up into Royal Rumble, and then
the new and improved Maxine comes out at the Royal Rumble,

(09:20):
maybe some new gear, right, maybe not a badass, but
clearly more competent, more confident, better structured in the ring.
And that would be the other thing too, is they
have just built up Maxine so fast and so hard.
If she's not coming out there next Monday and punching
bitches in the face, what was this all for? Serious?
And what was the point?

Speaker 1 (09:41):
And once again, this does not match who she is
right at all. It doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
This would be a Shana Basler kind of fucking response,
you know.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, And but what's weird to me is like, was
there any sort of conversation because I know, obviously Becky
saying is like now, Becky, he's staying at home and
she's threatening the lawsuits or whatever. The fuck. It's like, okay,
so what if the story was Adam Pierce is like, listen,
Becky's making all these problems with lawyers and shit, so
I need you to just go home for a bit,

(10:12):
and then you have her get mad and be like,
what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Like, I'm finding my groove.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
I'm the champion now, and he's like, listen, just just
go home. And then you have her go home. She's pissed.
She's sitting there being like, why am I being punished?
I didn't do anything wrong. All I did was win,
you know. And then you have Natty introduced and Naddy's like, well,
I'll tell you what, like, come train with me and

(10:40):
nobody's gonna push your ass around ever again. Then you
start that story and you're right. Then you tell that
shit until the after Christmas. You let it run for
five weeks. You're read it.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know, the cook, Let it cook, Let them both cook.
Because honestly, I thought Naddy was looking good in that
scenario too. I like Naddy as the gruff ring general
female veteran. It makes sense to her it. It's almost
like this is what she was supposed to be all along,
and now you finally figured out something for Nanny that
isn't a insulting and b makes the most of her

(11:13):
family name and see puts her in a light that's respected,
which I think a lot of fans do and it's
like you just threw it all away for some McDonald's fries.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
In a week, in one week, like it's you'd swear like,
it's really interesting to me because there's so much shit
on the show that is pure, pure filibuster.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yes, just you know.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah, chat cha chah, look at the feet, look at
my feet, Yeah yeah, yeah, just dancing nothing, big fucking
bull of fucking blah. And then they're given the opportunity
where it's like, okay, well, you guys can fill time,
even if it's a minute and a half on Raw
and or SmackDown every week with these little vignettes, and
they go, bah nah, get it all done right now now, No, no, no, no,

(12:02):
get it done, get it done, get it done. It's
I don't know what the fuck happened to this guy
in a year's time. I feel like this show is
basically unrecognized.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Not even the year. I would even go so far
as to say six months. In six months, it's like
something just fell off the cliff. I don't know, I
don't know, And.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
I know they're saying like Triple H isn't there, he's
there last or whatever, the fuck. And you know, obviously
it's always like Triple K. He's a bad guy, he's
a racist, he's a monster, blah blah. Well, I'm telling
you this. If Triple H was there when these shows
six months a year ago were being written and booked
and they were coherent, and now he's not there and

(12:43):
this is what we're getting, then maybe we need to
come to peace with the fact that maybe he knows
what he what he was doing to some extent, because
obviously whoever the fuck, like, whoever got left the keys
to the car here is not filling the.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Gas tank all right, the check it.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
They're like, oh, I got to put the wing uh west,
is I gotta put a new headlight fluid? Like they
just they clearly don't fucking know what they're supposed to
be doing.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
What's even weirder is why why not call up Sean? Sean?
Sean seems to have a good head on his shoulders
with this ship. He does not excuse does he not
want to do it?

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Like is he being spiteful? Almost like he himself like
it's like hey Sean, and he's like, sorry, I got
tuesdays off, you know, Like sorry, yeah, I got tuesdays.
I gotta work my other job, you know, like, what, well,
what is he doing? Like, I not even him, I
can't know.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
There's a lot of guys that are circling around the
company that are legends or whatever else that you know,
could be put in that position and come up with
something comprehensive, and it's just I don't know. It's it's
starting to lead some some credence to the theory that
maybe Ai is running the show.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
I honest to god, I'm starting to think it is.
I'm really like, that was a yuck yuck hardy harhar
going around. But at this point, I'm looking at the
show and I'm going maybe a fucking computer thinks this rules.
That's the only thing, like, because it's not for people.
Hey man, I just trust Gemini to do my taxes.

(14:13):
I don't trust it to book wrestling shows. So no, no, no,
I mean listen, all I'm gonna do is put my
blood work into a it's a Gemini and be like,
what should I be eating? I'll trust that, But you
think I'm gonna let it fucking but but miss, That's
also the point of this is the difference between what, God,

(14:35):
it sounds so fucking corny, but it's like, this is
the human element of things. You need a person to
step in and go nay, nay. That sucks, you know.
And similarly to the whole medical deal, right, it's like
the same exact thing as like these different insurance companies
running a fucking referral for healthcare through a thing and
they're like, DENI, DENI, DENI, And you're like a twenty

(14:59):
eight year old with a broken leg that needs crutches.
Then I, then I they'll never walk again. It's like, no,
you need the human element here to step in and
go yeah, no, that's fine. So this make this makes sense?
This doesn't. Don't do that.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
So what computer program was running that decided to give
the war Raiders a promo saying they're back, We're back,
and we're meaner than ever to go there and just
get handed handed by fucking AJ and Lee. And don't
get me wrong, that's the right thing, that's the right call.
But did anybody watch that promo and call, oh, fuck, yeah,

(15:36):
war Raiders fifteen point zero?

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yes, thanks God, this is the till God. I think
I think I Hardy needs to change his name to Manjaro.
Holy fuck, good God. And I fucking dude, local guy
Todd Hansen fucking you know, mixed reviews on him, but
I know he's grown up a lot. But for the
love of God, he grown up.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
He's grown out. Two.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
He looks horrendous. Yeah, he looks physically awful.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
They are the closest thing we have to nineteen eighties
superstar jobbers, Joe. They really are. I mean, it's just.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Thing we got to men on a mission right now, dude, I.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Mean, you may as well have bash and booger and
fucking very horro it's out there because it's the same thing.
It's the same fucking thing. It is not a good look.
It is not good for them. I and the biker
gimmick is just we wear leather vests now because we're
no longer actual like Viking related things, because those triggered people.

(16:36):
Now we wear leather vests.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, it's just we're Viking. We're Viking. Wh're Vikers. Where
Viking bikers who are also Eric has his hardcore tattoos
all over him. I'm a hardcore guy. I'm a biker.
It's like there's nothing there. And like I said, Ivar
is so fucking out of shape at this point that

(17:00):
you see him trying to do spots in the match,
and you're going, oh my god, they can't move them around.
They can't move them.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
But even visually they don't look good. That's I guess
that's what I was going with. It's like, why would
you take the masks that they had, like they had
the bone mask and shit, like they they looked good
once upon a time, even with old dirty feet Valhalla
looks and they just they've been disassembling them ever since.
And it's like, what are they just gonna come out

(17:28):
with next week? Just some red speedos and some sneakers, Like, yeah,
we can't afford we can't afford the vest anymore. Guys.
You guys got to return those goodwill. It's just too
much money. It's not in the budget. Why don't you
guys just leave your underwear on and then just go
out to the ring and we'll have like Ray Mysterio
and some crippled child beat you for one, two three?

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Come on, guys, Yeah, can you guys just put on
like some under armor fucking on these and just no.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
It Yeah, it looks really bad.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
And these are guys that for years they've just heated
that pizza up and tried and tried and tried.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
How many just could you imagine heating up a pizza
fifteen fucking times? Holy shit, I wouldn't do that on
a jackass there. That's just awful. Man.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
It's at this point, I don't know why they just
keep going to these dudes. And it would be one thing,
like I said, if there was a real feeling of
at the end of the day, these are good, good hands,
if you want to even call them good, they're good hands.
They're gonna have these good matches. But like I've aar
fucked it. He's out of shape. He fucked up four

(18:37):
things in the match that were well, you're looking at
it going this is strictly because he has ring rust
and is completely out of shape.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, like that's that because he's always been a girthy
He's always been a girthy fellow Joe. But I did
I did immediately think, oh, well, this is because he
doesn't do house shows because they don't exist anymore. He's
not on pl e's because well they don't call them
for those that anymore, and he's not really on TV.
So what did you expect. It's not like he's five

(19:06):
year old man. He's not a high XT, he's not
an LFG training the kids, you know, Like, well, what's he.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Doing showing up out of shape to have these matches?
And it's like and by the way, to some extent,
it's like, yes, should I blame him because he's a
man who's made money and has wrestled forever and needs
to always be ready to go. Yeah, But also, like
you just said, it's like, what once every two months
they're asking you to have a wrestling match. It's aw bullshit? Yeah,

(19:35):
like this this is the problem that I think that
people need to kind of like wrap their head around
when they're hearing these criticisms from you and I. And
at least I can speak for myself fully for this.
Where for the last five or six years, the things
that I've said about AW and why it sucked and
people got all fucking huffy about it. Now I'm starting
to see that.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
And more and more in WWE.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
And so if people go, oh, whoa, why would you ever,
I'm like, because it's not reasonable of me to see
this happen in Tony Conland and dump on it for
half a decade. And now I'm starting to see WWE
who should know better doing the same shit and then
sit there and twiddle my thumbs, right, because that's just
that's what's the word I'm looking for there? What's that called?

(20:20):
Being a complete fucking hypocrite? Like yet, Hey guys, we
got these wrestlers sitting around. Yeah, I haven't wrestled once
every two months. Oh wait, they're out of shape and
fucking just can't move around. Yeah no, shit, they don't
do anything. They're not staying in ring shape.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
They're not. Let's be honest. Though, that wasn't the highlight
of the match, Joe. The highlight of the match was
when Jay and Jim Big Jim Ussel came down to
the ring afterwards and they had a big announcement. But
it did lead me to probably the funniest moment of
the night when Jay grabbed a white child from the

(21:01):
audience and it was from a big mom, like a
big mom. He bit him, He bit the kids. Yeah, yeah, no, no,
that's what well, that's where yeah, I was gonna say,
is was he hungry? Was he gonna take it with
him as a snack, because but yeah, no, he grabbed
a little white kid and was kind of funny and

(21:21):
watching him, yeat with it, and the audience getting behind it,
and they come down to the ring and he got
a new day in the ring. And and by the way,
were they dressing up as Diddy's extras for the Netflix series,
Because my god was Kofi and Xavier Woods oiled the
fuck up. Dear lord, those boys were listening. I saw

(21:44):
my reflection at home on their fucking chests. It was
very oily, very oily, gentlemen. But yes, they were all
standing in the ring waiting for the usos, who they
begged not to do it again, and of course they
ran it back and did it again for everybody at
home that just didn't hear enough of the USO's entrance.

(22:06):
And we had a little bit and they all sat
there and let him do it. And that nice. Yes, yes,
that was at least about four or five minutes, not
saying anything, just staring at each other longingly.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
They just allo, who I guess this is what we do.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I guess is how it goes.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
By the way, this is one of those like glass
half full, glass half empty, right, glass half full, glass
half full. The company has realized that Jay clearly can't
do this shit by himself. Put him back with his brother.
Let him go for the tag titles. No one gives
a flying fuck about the tag belts.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Let me let me grumble on that for a second,
because I talked about that a little while ago, and
that was one of those mistredamous moments where I'm like, look,
jay Uso is gonna turn, maybe he's gonna join with
the vision. I think people were putting the vision in
my head, but I still think that jay USO's gonna
as if.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
And that was my half empty mess shit.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I was gonna say. I mean, last week we had
him blow a gasket and throw chairs and throw a
little temper tantrum, and this week he's like super amped,
like he's just got a whole bunch of drugs right
before the show and he's ready to go. And and
here's Jim just kind of calm, being a little bit antagonistic,
but there he calls out the fact that his brother's

(23:24):
been a giant fucking loser lately. He's like, Ah, what
are we gonna do? What? What are we gonna do?
And then fucking jay Uso flies off the handle and
they start fighting with the New Day. But I think
I think the jay Uso stuff is gonna come to
a turn, and I don't know if he's gonna turn
on his brother, but I definitely think he's gonna go.

(23:45):
He's gonna start doing some really underhanded shit that's gonna
make Jim go, ah Ooze, I gotta protect you from
this shit now ooz again, I gotta do it again.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
It really is becoming once again. So it's really really redundant,
and it.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Wasn't really funny.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
He's like, saw my brother Care crashing out and Jajus
saitting there. He's like, yeah, I'm a fuck idiot. Gee
Like yeah, I'm kind of a fuck stick acting a
fucking fool, and I'm like, what, yeah, no more, please,
though I agree, no more crying. Jay Uso promos no

(24:30):
more of this. Also him going into division. It's almost
like they put a challenge out right, like they're like, hey, listen,
you fucking think Seth Rollins is the most annoying human
being you could put on a wrestling show. And I'm like, yes,
I would say.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
So wants this challenge?

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Challenge accepted, we can make it worse.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Who wants this? Who's like, man, who can we find
worse than Seth Rollins? What kind of game? Are we
fucking playing here?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
The game of click? How to get us to turn
the fucking TV off?

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yo? You want to trust off that fast forward button? Oose? Uh,
It's it's rough man.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
But like I said, I'm hoping that's not even no
sarcasm whatsoever. I'm hoping they're realizing AJ styles Dragonly. This
is not the tag team of the future.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Uh, clearly, I was gonna throw this out there when
you're talking about AG. Yeah, because you're talking about AJ.
They made it very clear that AJ is getting ready
to retire. They talked about AJ retiring. Who else did
they bring up thus retiring? Fuck, there was somebody else,
not Orton, Not shame Shamus, did they They didn't mention me.
They didn't mention Shamus tonight, but I'm sure they will

(25:47):
on Friday. But isn't that well, you know, they've been
talking about that because obviously it's happening what Saturday, So
we got it Saturday. But it's weird that they're already
open prefacing all these guys getting ready to retire. It's like,
as soon as Sina leaves, I think we're just gonna
get an entire year. And I joked about this before,

(26:09):
but I think over the next year, twenty twenty six
is going to be the year that everybody pieces the
fuck out. I think aj Styles is gone. I think
Randy Orton's gonna fucking wrap it up. I'm pretty sure
Seamus has been hurting for a while. Who else nat
and Natty maybe, but I don't know. Man, Like, there's
just so many people that Ray myths. STEREO's probably gotta

(26:31):
be one foot out the fucking door, you know, Like
they're they're gonna lose a lot of people next year.
I just have a feel, and not in a bad way,
but it's like, now WWE has to be a self
support system. They cannot rely on the greatness of last
year or yesteryear's characters that have been built up so well,
see them Punk's not gonna be around for much longer. Like,

(26:54):
who are they gonna rely on?

Speaker 5 (26:58):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
I don't know. And I think that's probably part of
the rush vibe of them just being like push this person,
push this person, do something anything, please anything?

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Anything? Oh yeah, guys. Brock was another name being thrown
out that he's going to retire, thank you. Yeah. Now
Brock's another one. There's a lot of people ready to
leave Joe. This show is gonna get real empty, real quick.
And I and with the direction creatively that they're going
right now when you see that the best they have

(27:29):
is putting the usos against the New Day again.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, but this time the.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
New Days are heels.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah that's working. Uh yeah, no, dude, the New Day
thing too. I must say. The promo of Kofi trying
to be a bad guy and an Xavier trying to
be a bad guy and then their fucking dorky white
friends standing behind him.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
I'm like, what the fuck is this?

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Get him not only get this off television, it's fucking
cancer and aids. It sucks. And then you have Grayson
Waller behind him, and I'm like, what is this?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Who?

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Why is this dorky, fucking white guy with a plaine
ass fucking haircut standing behind Like you said, two guys
that look like they're bad boy for life, fucking dancers,
two forty year old men that are like, you know, like,
hey guys, we're happening out.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
We're happing out the expedition.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Like members of fucking Jodasy which got dated reference, but
like that's what Yeah, run twelve, you know.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Please did he can you give me enough money to
pay my rent this month?

Speaker 1 (28:43):
And he just dances by, goes and takes a piss
on somebody's head. I don't know, but like it's it's horrible,
it looks bad. It's uh, get him off television, Get
this off television. If the plan is we're gonna put
Usso's together back as a tag team and now all
they are is the tag team champions and come out

(29:05):
and do the hand motion and people bi yippity skippy,
that's probably the best case scenario.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
It was kind of funny though, if you looked in
the audience. They had one shot and it was just
a real passing overshot of a guy doing the yeat
and he at the same time while doing it was
looking down as if he was disgusted with himself. So
at least there's some self realization in the audience that
maybe I should stop doing this when attending live events.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
I eat myself today, So she I stood. Yeah, it's
like it's not good. It's just not good fucking television.
This was ninety percent of fucking bad, bad wrestling show.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, no, it really was. This was everything wrong with
the show, even the way that it closed out, Like,
h what else did I want to hit up on
besides that that mess ah, the Stephanie vekir vecuum, you
poor thing. Wow, they are just can we can we
just throw her in the trash bin and get it
over with? This poor fucking thing. Look, they have her

(30:14):
come out there, right, She's gorgeous. She comes out there,
She's just got the walk, she's got the look. And
I don't know why they're so heavy focused on her
cutting these straight promos in English, and I know that
there's like this mix of the Spanish and the English together,
and I guess that's fine, but they leave her out

(30:36):
there for like five minutes and it's just like God,
damn guys, Like, I mean, can she just get a
top hat and a cane at this point?

Speaker 1 (30:48):
You know what this feels like like watching this? And
thankfully I haven't had this done to be since I
was a child, because my wife has not done this
to me. But this is like a mom wife thing
to do, right where they just leave you with like
another man, Like it's just like somebody's somebody's husband, somebody's kids,
friend or whoever. They're just like, well, you're both boys.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Have a conversation. You're like, uh, right, food's good. Huh
what do you think about food? Yeah? I like food. Food?

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Pretty cool about sports, yeah, sport, I like sports. Like
they just hand it, You're right, they just hand her
a microphone. They're like, do it, go ahead, try try
it in another language. And she's just like, I am
ready to be whoever right, Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
I am your champion, thank you, I am here. Who ween.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
I'm like this girl, thank God that she is hypnotically.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
You don't do it, I know, do it because of
the devil's kiss. That's my butts. That is my butts.
My butt does these devils kids? My butt no win matches,
eyewindsy matches.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
I would, honestly god, at this point if she just
bent over and started talking like ace ventura, yesully, just
being like, let me ask you a question.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I know at least three dudes in our chat room
that would pass out from asphyxiation.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
I'm just saying, oh, dude, I would probably have to
put a bag over my head. I'd be like, all right,
it's not getting any better than that. See you later.
But like, what the fucking what is the point? You're right,
And so they leave this poor woman out to dry
and all of these why is she talking so much?
And like not even on some big why is the

(32:43):
girls talking shit? It's just it's doing nothing for her.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Well, Joe, they did decide to throw her a bone.
And then Nicki Bella makes her debut while she's walking
down shitting all over Kansas City talking about how they
don't deserve to be in the great Nicky Bella's.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Presence to Salbrary.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Oh she is Sasha moneting her ass to the ring.
It was funny and I'm a legend. And there's a
little kid that screams, no, you're not no, you're not.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
A five year old's like yeah, no, yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
And so she comes down into the ring with her
funny backwards hat and she starts to get up there
and starts to talk shit, and out of nowhere like
like an angel of death where kel Rodriguez appears and
just smashes Nicki Bella tits first into the mat, just

(33:41):
into the ground.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
And we are I supposed to boo that, by the way,
I think.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
I didn't even know. I was confused. I'm just looking
at the chalk outline where Nicky was. And then rare
Quel gets into the ring and starts spanishing it up,
and I'm like, I'm cool with that. I am cool
with that. I don't mind that. That makes more sense
to me. Nicky supposedly can speak Spanish. I guess she
just chooses not to speak Spanish with the other Spanish

(34:08):
speaking person in the room. But that's okay, that's a
Nicky Bella prerogative. Raquel does it. Raquel comes in there,
talks a little trash back and forth, calls her a bitch.
I'm like, okay, we got something here. I don't know
what's gonna come of this, but that was a good
effective way to get Nicky Bella out of the rematch

(34:29):
of picture and put Raquel Rodriguez in there.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
I know that was honest to guy. I was like, okay,
so what was the point? But because NICKI being like,
I want another match, and then a bigger heel.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Comes in another match?

Speaker 1 (34:48):
God, it's this is good. This has got to be
written by a computer. And really, I'm becoming further convinced
that they just put the names of twenty five people
into them and they're like crowdsource ideas from fucking Reddit
and past episodes of Raw and the computer's like condo

(35:11):
and it pumps out this horseshit. It's like, take the
girl who English is her second language and have her
say this five minute promo. Then have the forty year
old woman that no one cares about come out to
dead silence and get hit by the bigger heel who's
supposed to be booed, who also can't talk, which like
Raquel can't talk, but that's fine.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
She merga me smash. Gorga likes smash, and I'm like, okay,
it's fine, I'm okay with that.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
And by the way, like that's the moment, okay, like
that's the moment where to.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Pull it out. Yeah, she was dating braun Strowan for
how long?

Speaker 1 (35:51):
All right?

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Fair enough? Ga smash now snoop, snoop?

Speaker 1 (36:03):
All right, honey, do you want to go watch a movie?
He's like, you want to eat six pounds of for strami?

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Why don't we just eat forshrami on hand?

Speaker 5 (36:13):
It's like, wait, Gorga said pastrami again? Gorga, No, what
pastrami again?

Speaker 1 (36:25):
How about this? This was one of those moments where.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
It sounds like the cars crashing in the background.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
You know, it's just all right, I Stephanie should never
apologize for speaking Spanish. I don't think that should ever
be a thing. I don't think that should be a thing.
I don't think you should be like sorry for my angost.
But like is she came out and she was like
Kansas City. You know I you know, I am a
fighting champion, and you know I'm here in WWE to

(36:52):
you know, to kick ass and take names whatever the fuck,
simple shit, right.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
And then you have.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Raquels speak to her in Spanish because she's the heel right, gasp,
get it. Because she comes out and kicks the other
heel in the face. And like I said, now we're
sitting there going we're doing the six seven hands. Well,
well she's well, this one's supposed to be a bitch,

(37:19):
but she kicked the bigger bitch. So do I like
her the bigger bitch. And by bigger, I don't mean physically,
I mean behaviorally. It's like, no, you set the tone.
She comes out, fucking Nikki Bella, eat the fucking turnbuckle,
fuck offs, see you later, bitch, Get the fuck out
of the way. And she gets in the ring and
he looks at the woman who's the champion that we

(37:40):
know speak Spanish. I know you cunts in the crowd,
most of you don't speak Spanish, but this fucking bitch does.
And I'm talking to her, not you fucking losers, her,
and I'm looking at her and I'm saying, I'm gonna
fucking rip your fucking hair out. I'm gonna kick the
shit out of you people here, they you're hot, shit, well,

(38:01):
they don't fucking know anything. And then you roll your
ass out and seventy of course sitting there with a
look on her face like damn, damn, I just got
told the fuck off in Spanish. And sure half the
crowd doesn't know what the fuck said, but I sure
just got told where to go.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
And then you have her go to the back and
have don looking at her going, oh shit.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Like, tell a story, tell us story, do something fucking
semi interesting, proudly you.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Want to fucking have multi lingual storylines going, are you crazy?

Speaker 1 (38:36):
It's not even multi lingual, it's literally just heal heat.
I don't know what she's saying right now, but I
know when I look at her face, she's freaking this bitch.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Out in another language entirely.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
I mean, we anybody that's ever lived somewhere where people
speak other languages, which at this point is most of
the country. And if you're not already sitting there huffing,
you're puffing and kissing your pants, being like, well, you
can tell the tone of a conversation. You ever been
in a sub shop and heard two people yelling at
each other in Greek? You know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
It ain't good.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
You ever heard two guys yelling at each other and
far sea ain't good? You can guess the tone, and
in a way, you're almost sitting there going I kind
of well.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
It leads it up to the listener or the viewer
to try and determine what's being said based upon the
body language, based upon the emotion the tenor of the
actual argument, which is funny because they could just be
telling we need more bread. Yeah, motherfucker, we need more bread.
We're out of bread. Do you believe we're out of bread?
We're out of bread? And the guys are watching, going Jesus,

(39:45):
these guys are gonna kill each other.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, and you're hearing, you're hearing them, and you're going,
oh damn, this guy's gonna this guy wants to punch
this guy in the face. And really all he's saying
is is tell your wife, thank you for bringing sandwiches
for us, for what a wonderful woman she is. You
are a lucky man.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Like the guy in the back is like, ah, the
bread truck just pulled up. Guys, you're all right, Like what.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah, you're like, oh, things are going You're not wrong.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
I understand exactly what you're trying to point out, but
once again, you're you're almost making it too complicated because
they're having issues just telling stories in English and I
and I understand what you mean by simplistic heel heat
because that is because it's using the not xenophobias. It's
using the inability of most people to understand a foreign

(40:34):
language or the foreign language being spoken, and they have
to rely on their other understandings in order to try
and convey what the message is being told. But that
requires acting ability. That requires, I guess, a clear understanding
of what language is what's being said in the other
language by the booking committee. And it also requires the
foresight of realizing, you know, how this would affect the

(40:57):
audience at hand. And I just don't feel like after
watching this raw that w W is capable of that.
Right now, it's not going well. And even the bright
spots on the show, like Stephanie Vicker and and even
even Raquel I, Like Raquel I think she's she's good
for what she's worth. But you're talking about people that

(41:20):
you know, need direction, they need someplace to go, they
need something to hold on to, and the best they
could come up with was a smash nicky bella and
just jump in the ring. Okay, it's like and then
look and go me belt belt live man what live says,

(41:41):
live commands And let's talk about that too, because we
also had it was a definitely a woman heavy night.
For what it's worth. We had Roxy Roxy and rock
Rockabilly out there versus what was it, the other half
of Lyra Valkyria, the the Bailee. I mean, the match

(42:03):
was okay, it was very little. Yeah, it was a
very little It was a little person's match, a little
woman's match.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Yeah, there's a little, tiny, tiny match.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
By the way, this was like one of those things
where watching a show like Raw where there's so many
women on it, speaking of, like you said, a woman
heavy show, Yeah, and you're not a woman. You don't
pick up on some of these things, right, But rox
Hanne's doing the promo in the back with whomever live.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
And oh yeah about the new generation of Judgment today.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Yeah, and Emily goes, she goes, good God to rox Hannes.
She goes, she's gorgeous, but why did they make her
face yellow? She's like, why does her face look yellow?
Like the makeup they put on her? And I was like,
what are you? And now I look at I go,
I can't unsee it now it looks like yeah, but

(43:03):
it looks like what's that fucking creature? And like one
of the the yellow monster guy? Was it in Sin
City or something? One of those things where it's like
you're like a fucking goblin. Yeah, I'm like why yo, yeah,
yellow bassd I'm like.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Why.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Is this girl's face like the makeup? It really is
fucking real bad. They've always had problems with makeup though, Dude,
do we do we forget about the Ronda Rousey ship
back in the day? Oh well that was stef inflicted.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
You know what about the Shana stuff. That Shana stuff
got awful for a while there, ye, And what what
happened to Zoe Stark? Yeah, she had a real good
makeup job too, like thought she existed. Holy fuck. Ivy
Nile was another one that they caked up for the
longest time. Yeah. No, women's makeup in w W E

(43:55):
is definitely hit her miss. It's definitely hit her miss sometimes.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Okay, you brought her up, so now we have to
mention it. Can we talk about this bitch sounding like
butters Ivy Nile? Oh honey, no, oh no, her standing
there and the PROBA be like, well, I'll tell you, oh, pineapples,

(44:23):
you're a you're you're.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
A big trouble. Will you fight me?

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Well, lady, I was like.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Oh no, he has no idea zero.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Why are they letting these people dangle? I get saying
once again, you, like we were mentioned earlier, these people
are retiring, a lot of people are getting the fuck
out of here.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
They're they're clocking out. We need you guys to get better.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
But good lord, she's sitting there with a live mic
wit a fight okay, and she's I'll tell you, what.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Do you think she's gonna be? Female jumping Jeff Farmer, Oh,
that's a if we can hope that sounds positive?

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Manly boy, oh boy, she's and once again we're doing
this weird thing, and it's it's a w shit Cutie Petuti,
this little little dolly girl.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
I'm a I'm an ass kicker.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
I'm gonna kick give shit out of you.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
No, you're not.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Stop it. No one believes this, No one buys this.
Cut it out. At least with Raquel. Yes, she can't talk,
she can't cut a promo, but at least she's big.
We go, oh, okay, Well, if she decides to punch someone,
maybe they'll get hurt, Maybe it'll hurt them.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Or they can just have a match, with Kyrie saying yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
That's the way that she can do. You can just
actually break their nose, breaks their fucking face and half yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yay, or killed herself because what has she got twenty
twenty injuries in the last five years. Jesus Christ's great.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, how do you say in Japanese?

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Stop hurting yourself? Hang it up? Fuck? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (46:14):
How do you say no more matches? Yeah, it's it's
really fucking it's rough man. Yeah, there was a lot
of ship with the women on the show, and you're right,
it was almost all pretty fucking bad.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Yeah, And and usually they tried to open up strong
with EO and Kyrie right for whatever the match is worth,
they tried, and I know we kind.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Of well that was match of the night honestly, now
that you mentioned it compared to all the other.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Ship Well, we haven't even gotten to the to the
big meat yet, which is what I've been kind of saving.
But yeah, the Roxy Gotta win, which was kind of nice.
Live was in the background as her manager, which is
a little odd, just you know what I mean, Like, oh, okay,
maybe that's Liv's role. Maybe she is taking control of
the judgment day kind of feels like it a little bit,

(47:06):
but I'll wait, I'll see what happens here. The Lyra,
Lyra losing whatever, no fucks given. What was her big
moment of the night. Oh, I drank the wrong coffee
and I didn't like it, and Bailey's like, oops, I
gave you the wrong coffee. And then she switched to
coffee and Lyra's like, are you sure you sure I
can have this coffee? And Bailey's like, yeah, I go
ahead and have the coffee. And that was the end

(47:28):
of her charisma for the night.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
And it barely goes thats my piss and Lyra goes.
I was wondering, my taste so good, And then that's
how we found out that Lyra's actually German.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yes, yes, it's like I'm a closet's German and this
is a beverage in my part of the country. She's
got yellow fever. Yo Eo and Kyrie was fine for
what it was. I think Leo Leo knows how to
move when Kyrie's gonna botch so she doesn't get hurt.
I think she's used to that. I mean it's a

(48:00):
very it's a very acute skill, but Leo has mastered
it quite well.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
So this this was accidentally the best thing, the best
match on the show, because so much of the other
ship was so rotten.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Oh yeah, that's the problem.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
And it's like, you know, like I said, I don't
like them always saying e Ow's the best wrestler in
the world, because you know, the crowd's supposed to say that,
they're not supposed to say it. But when these are
the matches you're putting on a show, maybe you're letting
us know we ow is the best wrestler in the world,
because is this the best you got?

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Because well they have good women's wrestlers. They just don't
put them all in the ring at the same time,
because that's I mean, what else do they They got
to hide them on us.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
That's a good point. If we know they're there too often,
we might want to actually see it.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
They got Nay first, you know, and then.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Natty fucking cucks out to the middle week, And so
is that next week? Is Natty gonna sit what do
you think criss cross apple sauce in the cup chair? Hope?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
So, I hope, I hope vaccine starts teaching her how
to wrestle next week.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
That'll be That's what I'm I think that would make
a lot of sense. That's what they should do. I mean, well,
you know, God willing, and by God I mean chat
ebt willing, that's what they'll do next week.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Oh, Joe Rogan, why don't you settle down about that?
God is in the is in the AI?

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (49:19):
What if? What if? What if? What if?

Speaker 1 (49:22):
What if?

Speaker 6 (49:22):
Like what if like Tousty Rhodes is a booker comes
backers comes back as ah man? What if what if
Calvin Sullivan is a booker comes back as a computer man?

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Wouldn't that be horrible? If they gave chat gpt Dusty's
book and said, okay, book our shows.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Oh Cody gave it to him, and it's like he
doesn't even realize. It's like that guy fucking Miles West
his face given Cyberdine the fucking robot arm, not even
realizing he's fucking destroyed the wrestling world forever. Hey, how
about we get that book there. Cody's oh, yeah, sure,
that's a good idea. Fu and ruins everything gets a

(50:01):
win over Kyrie.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
So and that was fine. That was fine for what
it was, but we got to talk about the well,
let's start talking about the Logan Paul Ray mysterio thing.
Logan Paul is in the back and Paul Hayman's back
there and Bronson Reed and bron Breaker and they're sitting
on a couch and Paul standing up. But Logan goes

(50:23):
back there and goes, did you see? They like, what
did you see? What happened to me last week? And
Ray Ray got in my face and I'm like, yeah, whatever,
Like nobody gives his shit?

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Yeah, like shit's wild man, yeah crazy.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
And you know, they basically come down to you gonna
do something about it. I'm gonna do something about it,
and so they all get hyped up for a little
bit and Bronson, Reid, and bron Breaker just leave or whatever.
I think they just didn't want to hear any more
of the conversation. And Logan pulls Paul aside, and Paul
Hayman basically gives him brass knocks after he agrees to

(51:02):
beat up people for Bronson, Reed and bron Breaker because
they're the one.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
A lot of sexual attention here too, yeah, sexual, It
was all the weird.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
There's a lot of eyes, a lot of handholding. There
was a point where Paul and Paul were really like,
you know, just face to chin, and it was it
set up this this next bit. I guess when raymss
Seerio comes out there and Logan Paul just wax him
with fucking nuts because we all know Ray Masterio needs

(51:29):
a week off, so.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Because poor Reank can only work like three matches a
month because he's fifty yeah wow.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
And then La Knight shows up, another young, spry fifty
year old because he's all offended at Logan Paul coming
out there and beating up on this helpless old man.
And so La Knight gets the crowd to agree, let's
have a match at the end of the night. And
everybody's like, oh yay, And so the main event happens

(51:59):
Joe and we get Logan Paul versus l A. Knight,
And I.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Gotta tell you, they can't reveal this as Austin Aris
fast enough. Logan Paul needs someone to tag out to.
And that's not me sitting here being like he's bad.
He shouldn't be on television.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
I forgot about the masks man, the masked man.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Oh, yes, the mast aren't you on the edge of
your fucking seat.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Oh, it's gotta be Seth Rollins because everybody said it's
South Rollins. He's doing Seth Rowlins. Move, dude. Who else
could do it? Well, nobody else could do it because,
as you know, nobody in wrestling takes each other's moves.
You can't do that. You can't. It's against the law.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Did I say Austin as by the way, Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Whatever, you know what, I'd be fine if it was
Austin ay's under the mask, just saying it's well, the
guy was a little too tall for that. But maybe
maybe it could be Chris herro No, how about Roderick Strong.
Do you think it could be.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Roderick's Strong ae W legend Roderick Strong?

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Dude, Sure.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
You better not put that evil on Roddy Strong.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Baby Uncle Tony might be right, Adam Cole.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
I think Adam Cole was who Jay Whoso picked up
during the eat thing wasn't the way?

Speaker 2 (53:30):
You sure that wasn't Adam Cole? Dude?

Speaker 1 (53:34):
No, this is fucking this ship's ass. It's fucking ass.
But like, yeah, they need to have a way for
Logan Paul to tag the fuck out. He desperately needs
an escape hatch on these shows because before, when he
was having a pay per view match, you know, he
could do his practice, he could practice, get his practice in,

(53:56):
and I was a little its I like that. I
don't think that's how you learned to work. Once again,
this is also why you need to have house shows.
But you're not going to learn to work by just
practicing moves in a fucking warehouse, for sure. But now
we're getting to a place where Logan Paul's having ten
to fifteen minute long matches weekly on Monday Night Raw.

(54:17):
He ain't there, He's not ready for that. This show
Monday Night Raw, WWE Billion Dollar company soon to be
sold to Saudi Arabia, the number one wrestling company on
the planet. Has too many green guys on their show
every week period.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
They have too many green guys.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
And green girls to some extent, I mean, like I said,
you had old fucking what's her face there doing her
butter's promo. But that's neither here nor there. But you
got guys on this show that are not ready at all,
and they're featured prominently on the show over and over again.
And it's not a dig on fucking Logan Paul. He's

(55:04):
had like fifty fucking matches, fair as fair as fair.
But this is why he needs a tag partner. So
when he gets lost and starts getting happy feet, he
can walk to the corner and tag and a guy explain.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Explain this to me right, Like, I'm totally in agreeance
with you. I think Logan Paul needs some of the
spotlight to to go away for a few minutes so
he can recoup. Why couldn't it have been Bronson or
or bron As.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Yes, that should have been Bronson. I mean, truly, it
should be him and Bronson. If anything, I kind of like,
kind of like that comedic dynamic. They could have pulled
that off if they didn't all of a sudden decide
that Logan Paul needs to be Captain serious.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Now he went to nady A school, he's now a badass.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
We didn't see that footage he tapped He tapped Natty
out in three days?

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Do you know that? Wow? Yad?

Speaker 1 (55:56):
He was like, oh, stop killing me, and he's like
a good teacher, TJ help and he's just like in
the cuckchair that Naddy's gonna be in next week.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
And TJ's like, you guys a monster. You want me
to do what.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Chris Cross Apple sauce no pants on just enjoying the view.
Uh no, dude, it's he needs somebody to fucking lean on, truly,
because he's not there. Once again for the people whose
buttholes get hurt when you say this, it's not his fault.
He is green, he is new. The people there should

(56:37):
be protecting him. So he's not going out there on
television all the time and having multiple instances where he's
Humadahammadahammadahammada and making himself look like an as.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
This is also a case of stupid booking, because not
just because of the fact that they have it this way,
But you have three guys who are potentially the future
of the company. Who are they going to lean on? Like,
I know, really, you have three guys that, arguably in
their own way, should be laying the foundation for the

(57:08):
next five to ten years. Arguably whoah who who's giving
up some water? Who's taking more the load for the
other two? You know. And I'm not trying to say, well, oh,
restolut are any for themselves, but there should be some
kind of professional curtis going you know, there should be
somebody to absorb some of this punishment.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
But well, call me crazy, and it seems now kind
of far fetched because of what they've booked themselves. Are
written as a television show at this point. But maybe
Drew should be the veteran guy.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
And I love the idea of Drew being with the vision.
I really wish.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
More mission in this now, like what they have going
on right now, say, we can't get Drew, can't get
Drew right, Drew's not on the menu. They all ran
out of Drew. He seasonal, we don't have and he Drew.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
I'll take fucking l a knight. I'd have taken a
heel La.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Knight as the fucking veteran older guy looking at them
as a heel going, look at all these guys around me, right,
look at these young fucking ant Look at these animals.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Look at these studs. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (58:22):
They never got They never got me because they didn't
get him till LOUI he's what thirty eight years old.
Why wouldn't he have the mindset of looking at them
going fucked fuck these people know they didn't give me
a chance.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
But you know the direction of the storyline and the
team going still as hard after see them punk. I
would have said Drew would have made more sense. Drew
would have made more sense. But like I said, say
we couldn't get a Drew, I'll out of Drew. Why
I'm just saying, I'm just if we couldn't have Drew,
I would have gladly accepted a heel La Night in

(58:55):
this group as the guy that can hold the fucking
microphone when Paul can't do it. Because I gotta also
say the promo that he had, I was gonna get
to that, but yeah, please, you know what, I can
only do so much justice with this words. How amazing,
amazing was bron Breakers promo on Raw after the main event.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Hayman's was terrible, Like Hayman's having bad promos, Paul Hayman
is having bad promos because you're basically like, you're here's
Billy Mays. Here, here's the sham Wow guy, here's a
great one of the best fucking pitchmen ever, and you're
trying to sell me like a bowl of fucking dog water.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Dude. Oh no, it was the I didn't want to
face yet see him punk. I didn't want to faced
him because I'll beat him fast. I want to face
I want to ba, I want to face the base
said that shit, He fucking said that. It was the

(01:00:06):
dumbest thing ever. And then he goes, I want to
face the theam punk that that couldn't or couldn't I
couldn't lace up a pair of boots and then he
repeats the lacing up a pair of boots that seampunk
the other, not the one over the other. Buddy. Here
he was stumbling all over the place. He was repeating

(01:00:28):
his promo over. You could tell he he read the script.
He tried to memorize the script, and he forgot the
script and his brain. You could literally see him trying
to catch up to the script and it was just like, oh,
oh just please, just you have more charisma than this.
Just just fucking talk, dude, talk, Just you know what,

(01:00:51):
He should have ripped his shirt five minutes p yeah
one two three, spear one two three spear one two
spia one two shirt spia. Wait, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
I think that's what we should do from now on,
when people can play where they're like, you guys have
too many advertisements. I want to be like, you know
what what we're gonna do. We'll take the ads out
and me and you for forty five seconds, will just
go one two three Sea one two three spe up
one two three fast.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Now you gotta listen to forty five seconds of more advertising.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Jesus Christ, I know it would be the other way around.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
One dude three spa. Wasn't there a.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Part where he's like, I'm gonna bron break yeah, broad.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Break you man. Oh that was the deuciest line I
think I've ever heard. You don't trust me because my
name is bond Breaker. I'm gonna bron break you on
Saturday Night's main events, I'm like, run break you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Oh, guys, by the way your boys sees. I don't
see much of the comments. I see some of the comments,
and I saw people going shoey shitting on Braun. Why
I can't believe I'm so disappointed he would say this
said or the other thing. I'm not completely shitting on

(01:02:22):
the guy. I'm just telling you that's all it was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
But this is not ready. But it's not even just
that ready. To be fair, the whole night was full
of shit. The script they gave them must have been
truncated or something, because it was. It was bad for everyone.
Everyone who cut a great promo on Monday who, no, no,

(01:02:48):
you did anyone? Nobody? La Knight was what the most
passable who cut a good promo? Nobody? Yeah, it was
fucking there you go, Walter, thank you. I oh God,
forget about that gun.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
There because the only thing on the ship it's not
interesting to talk about because all of the rest of
it's so fucking bad that guns are just being like,
I am going to defeat Sina. It's like, okay, fine.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
No, he's specifically worded is I'm going to make Sena
give up. I'm going to make you do something you
would never do, and I'm going to make you give up.
And it's like, yeah, that's simple to the point. We
understood it. We get the T shirt reference, not a problem.
It was fine.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
He should have said he should have said, I'm going
to gun third you. I'm gonna take a gun and
it through you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
No, just I'm gonna gun thro you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
Oh, I'm gonna I am going to guns. I am
going to gun to gun, gun to gun, and I'm
gonna put a gun in you, Gonna put it in there,
gonna turn it twisted around as is long. Yeah, this
was This was a horrendous evening of Monday night. Raw

(01:04:10):
I tried to find some silver lining in it, and
I swear to you I did.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
It was very, very bad.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
It's exposing how green and incompetent the majority of the
people are that they're featuring on this show, top to bottom. Uh.
The way that it even ended was so anti climactic.
It was complete guy. For some reason, la I said
the backstage again being like I'm and then two of

(01:04:37):
them are like, should we go kill him?

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
I guess, yeah, well what the okay the other part
of that? So they just flash on the screen l
A night just in the back like you can't get up.
He's drunk. All of a sudden, jay usaid the drive
by or something.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Yeah, yeah, j we're back there doing fucking keg stands.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Yeah real quick, yeah, shot, it's Keith Elliot Green. Uh.
So he's laid out and Bronson read and Logan Paula
are like you see that? Yeah, I saw that. You
see that. Yeah, let's go fuck him up. Yeah, let's
do it again. Man, Like, what why? Right? For what
particular reason? He's well what he gets out here? Oh boy, which,

(01:05:19):
by the way, happened. When that happened, all I kept
thinking was who's gonna run into the ring and fuck
up ron Breaker? That's all I was thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Shouldn't that have been the point? Like, isn't seeing shouldn't
the man? Shouldn't we have done this? Wouldn't this have
made sense? What if they ran to the back the
mask man comes behind him, the man takes the mask
up and and see him pucketing at somebody go to sleep?
So people actually leave happy? Crazy that people actually leave
happy instead of baffled. Yeah, yeah, that's that's a good point.

(01:05:52):
They need to They need to fine tune the chat
EBT prompts.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
That's the problem. But that's what should have happened. That's
why I thought they were alluding to. I thought, oh, look,
the big dads are gone. It's just bron Breaker talking
to himself about boots and lacing and breaking things and
uh yeah. And then they go in the back in
La Night like a whipped dog. Justin Although I did laugh,

(01:06:18):
Logan Paul looked like he actually punched that one dude
in the face because he dropped so hard he did
he did punch him in the face. Just some little
random blonde dude just gets floored in one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
Wow, there's just some little Yeah, you're right, there's just
some guy who working security there, and he just pops
him in the fucking mouth for what he.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Just tries Scott's ass man. I was like, okay, sure,
I guess that's what we're doing in w W now
is improv is just punching people in the face. It's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
So we're we're pretty confident at this point that punk
has to go over fucking State cop, right, So.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
I don't know what yeah have too, because we know
Seena's fuck, we know Sena's losing. Saturday Night's main events
is not quick to end with bron breaker and Gunther
winning like, wow, good nights, folks.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Well, but also this is yet another instance of just
Rago's off the air. People are fucking confused. The last
fifteen minutes of it are just incoherent fucking psychobabble.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Well, it was just an excuse for Bronson to jump
off of onto another Hyundai or whatever the fuck it
wasn't a cord and then the even the car alarm
didn't even go off. I'm like, what kind of kind
of shitty ass car did you have him slam into? Well?

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
No, Also it's like the mixed continuity too, Like, okay,
the security comes and chases the mass man away, All right,
oh cool, all right, Scarity shows up, Scary shows the
mass man away.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Uh, what are we gonna do now?

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
So is Bronson gonna get punished for almost killing a
guy by putting through a car or are we just
right back to get again? Like the writing is just
fucking dogshit.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Well, they didn't just spend Drew, so maybe Adam will
suspend Bronson. Who knows. I mean, the only thing we got,
the only thing we got from Adam. I don't know
if we got anything else from Adam. Maybe I missed it.
But the only time I saw Adam out there was
I think dragon Ly was walking and you saw Adam
Pierce just screaming his head off at New Day and

(01:08:30):
they're oiled up bodies, and dragon Ly kind of wins
and going, ugh, whatever the fuck's going on over there,
and they just keep walking like was that his only
appearance in the night.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Apparently apparently that's what he's good for. I don't know,
just as some sort of reality check to these people.
I don't know who the fuck is writing this show.
I don't know who's agent in this show. I don't
know who's thinking that this is the directtion for it
to go in going forward. But they need to fucking

(01:09:04):
figure it out. And I get it. I'm one guy.
They're making a lot of money. They think that, you know,
this is just fine. This is fine, This is fine
because his money machine go BREU. But it's becoming really
fucking unwatchable, bordering on completely fucking unwatchable. When people go, oh,

(01:09:26):
the Vince Vince's shit sucked and Vince's ship was.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Yes, it did. But two things can be true at
the same time, Joe, two ranks can absolutely be true. Yes,
there were major, major, holes during the Vince era of things,
that just sucked, sucked the life out of the audience.
But you know what, even without Vince still happening, it

(01:09:53):
is still happening.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Yeah, we know. You know what gold Goldilocks hit three
bulls of porus, right, one was too hot, one was
too cold, you know, one was hot, one was cold,
one in the middle was fucking just right, and then never.
It seems like we're always struggling for that middle bowl
of porridge, right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Cordy, Yeah, go ahead, Sorry, no, but I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
It seems like they're always struggling for it. Well right now,
it's the whichever one you thought Vince was hot or cold,
it's the opposite, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Sorry, what was it? Oh no, I was saying, I
don't watch anymore, but you guys can't stop watching. It's
it's not even just that. Right, We're coming into the
supposed good time of the year. This is when WWE
is supposed to save up all their best storylines, their
best moves, their best match ideas for now, because we're
going into Rumble and then after that we're going into Rustlemania.

(01:10:47):
These are the two most important shows of the year
and it's like it's not been a good twenty twenty
five thus far. No, it's it's it's not really leading
me to want to drink from this Saudi river.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
And I really, and I'm sure somebody would say, listen,
they're gonna figure it out, they're gonna pull together, they're
gonna come up with something whatever. The fucking you know,
belief is here, But this is not going to remotely
get me thinking to myself, maybe I should go to Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Oh no, no, I mean, what about Saudi Arabia though
you're looking forward to.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Oh never mind, I better get a fucking plane ticket
to Saudi Arabia for this. Jesus Christ. Well, that's it,
like right now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
And I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
A lot of people think wrestling fans just have a
bottomless fucking pit of money because they don't have kids,
and they live in their mom's basements and all the
fucking stereotypes and this that and the other.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Green shirt guy does. But that's different.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
So right, well, that's I mean, there's only so many
of those. But this is where they sit there and
they go, oh, yeah, you know, we'll get them to
come out to Vegas. They'll come out and April, they'll
spend all this money. It's like, I'm not so sure
about that because last year I think they thought the
same exact thing was going to happen and that didn't
go according to plan. And last year already was looking

(01:12:14):
like the card was a hell of a lot more solid,
the talent was a lot more built up, the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Writing was a lot better.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
And this ain't looking like they're going to be able
to write this ship in the next what three months?

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Yeah, that's all that time is ticket. Man, we're closer
to Christmas than not. We're closer.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Yeah, Yeah, it's coming quick. And by the way, like
he said, it's coming close to Christmas. If someone was like,
look what I got you for Christmas? Tickets to Wrestlemania'd
be like, oh shit, am I going to see Bailly
and burd Girl versus Kyrie Sane at Oscar? Yeah, that's
worth three thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
That's also a fifty four year old guy in our chat, Joe,
Come on, that's a little different.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Guess what we got tickets to go to WrestleMania this year?
Oh shit, dude, am I gonna get to see bron
Breaker have a bum? Stumblefuck? Match with seth rawlins. Yeah,
quick fucking bite tickets for the.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Price of a used car. A gonna we need to go.
Am I gonna see Big Jim Uso face his brother
Jay Uso at WrestleMania Part du she betrayed his brother's trust. No,
no yeat.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
Quick sell some plasma so we can go watch No yeat.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
It's only seventy two thousand dollars. The only match I
really want to see at WrestleMania is Oscar versus Kyrie
saying where she just beats the shit out of her
for fifteen minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:13:49):
It's just.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Nah, it hurt. Nah and message just sitting there, He's like,
I'm having brox sen a flat Yes, yes, you got
your little never give up towel. I'm just that m
Bison meme.

Speaker 5 (01:14:07):
Just yes.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
I like the idea of now, Like we've just gone
full fucking munch not Munchausen. What's it called, uh Stockholm syndrome.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
We've got full Munchausen.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
We're just like making wrestling stick on purpose.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
We come on the.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Show, We're like, I think you guys should just put
push Ivy dial more. She's fucking great a talker. Do
it more. But we're going full Stockholms where we're like,
I wish Sina was here. Man, fucking right, what fucking
scene can we get a forty five mint long scene entrance?

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Where's Edge bring me back? Edge? At least at least
Edge was trying. Let's not forget Jericho's getting ready to
come back to fuck yeah, let's let's talk about the
cherry on top of Russell Mania. Right, there's Jericho appearance,
there's Jericho sightings.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
I like, you know what I think that they should
do with Jericho, And I really think that I'm not
even fucking kidding. They should do Jericho and Dom. I
hate to say it because I don't, but I think
that Dom and Jericho could actually pull something out of
each other. I should be hair versus hair, and Dom
shaves Jericho's head.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
I have a feeling it'll be Jerich. I'd be fine
with l A. Knight.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Yeah, don't put that evil on Ellie Dude, Poor Ellie Knight,
Poor ll A Knight.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Man. I like it you Yeah, it's like, you know
what his career is now, right? I like ell Like it's.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Just like somebody's sitting there like fucking Santa walking up
to all the kids, and he's like, you get a
toy train, you get a plashtay shirt. And then he
gets to Elle Knight, he's like you fuck you, go
fuck yourself. Fuck you. Yeah, he's like, you get one
tile from a game of Picturears.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
Tol Let me ask you a couple of questions before
we get ready to wrap up and get the fuck
out of here. Yeah, where's Otis? Oh god, where's Otis?
I miss Otis? Where's Otis?

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
I think Otis is getting fatter so we can take
ivars spot. Maybe it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
I was kind of hoping he come back to like
manage vaccine dupree or something. Is he in Triple A?

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
That's honestly a great fucking spot for him, because he
did good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
He did good in that one time. I said, and
he's working on WWE, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Honest to god, if I'm Otis and they said we're
sending you to Triple A, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Like, what a relief? What a relief?

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Just keep paying me and then fucking please put me
on television again in a year and people will be
excited to see me because they forgot about me, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
And in that question at a little more depressing. Yeah,
where's Kevin Owens.

Speaker 1 (01:16:59):
I'll tell you it's got to be some part of
him watching this shit, watching La night, watching these dead
fucking shows and going, oh god, that could be me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Oh, I know it's next. I know his nextet fucked.
I know he went in for the surgery, and I
think the timeline for him to return is sooner than later.
But it's been kind of dead air and I don't
follow his socials. I mean I do follow, but I
don't see it all the time. And I haven't really
seen any update going around the dirt cheeks about Kevin

(01:17:29):
Owens and his recovery, and I was just kind of curious,
is he recovering? Well, did it not take? Is it
another biggie situation?

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
Like I kind of feel like at this point he's
gonna take his time, and as him looking at this show,
I would look at it and say, no, rush Yeah,
and you and.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
Tony in the chat are both right, why would he
rush back for this shit because he could steal the
fucking show out from everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Yeah, well no, but they're still gonna. You know what
they do, they bring him back to fucking wrestle State.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
Cop Dude's Yeah, but Kevin Owens could actually bring State
Cop to a good promo. You know we could. That's
a wow.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
That is a fucking big way.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
He is a big He did it for Roman. Kevin
Owens made Romans promos better. Kevin Owens made Romans match better.
Kevin Owens makes everything better.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
I miss him. I'm just saying, you know what, I
think he would be. There would be nobody i'd trust more.
And if lou hears this, put this little birdie ears
and this pass the pass it along to another Montreal wrestler,
if he called them State Cop, it would hit. You
can't tell me that wouldn't hit. If Kevin Owens came

(01:18:49):
out and he's like, I'm back here, I'm here to
beat up. I'm here to beat up this big guy
I don't know, Polynesian guy and this idiot with a
YouTube channel and the state cap, he would kill that bounty. Yeah, Jesus,
I thought I was here.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
You know, everybody is a mountie. I'm looking over here.
I see a stick cup. I know. I love how
I make him sound like Bernie Sanders a little bit better.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
Yeah, it's like that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
God.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
I have health insurance and I had a lot of
money that I met at w W the month to
say is swallowing all of this horrible fucking wrestling show.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
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it's really that bad it, does you know? I was

(01:19:55):
going to read some of it now because I had
some of it already outlined highlighted, But I think I'm
gonna save it because it's just it is an amazing
piece of literary history about the foundations of professional wrestling
throughout the years, as told by somebody on on many drugs.

(01:20:15):
But I digress. Wrestling Suit.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
I think I think Phil left us a good sound
off there. I think you should play that on the
way out for the people. You know what, well, I'm
added I'll take your wife too.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
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to Wrestling Soup on YouTube, Apple, Amazon.

Speaker 2 (01:20:34):
I heart really did

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
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