CENA IS GONE. NOW WHAT? SH!#BOX VOICEMAILS (Frank und Gus 12.19.25)

Joe and Anthony dust off the old Shitbox and take listener voicemails about the final match of John Cena and where he goes after WWE. 

- Old entertainers get cancelled.
- political stances about rural areas of the US
- Cena voicemails

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:13):
So fantastic.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
To Manson, just say, I'm just a widow girl. Yes,
he dropped a fucking Gwen Stefani. Is that what's coming on?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Oh my goodness, you never heard the early ship. Huh yeah, no,
is hard. It's pretty. It was back when he was
beating bitches and cages and stuff. It was great.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oh so like Gwen Stefani. Yeah, same thing. By the way,
you know, she's like a born again Christian weirdo.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Now did you know that any weirder than Shirley Manson?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh see, I don't know she's on that, she's on
that train.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
No, but she flipped out on a fan the other
day and she was talking about having her people kill
him live on stage in front of like sixty thousand
people and ship.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
That's kind of Irish.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, now I see.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
If she was American, I might be a little bit concerned, right,
But yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Irish never followed through with their threats, right.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
So no wink, Whitey Bulger, what a guy? What a
nice fella? That's still dude. That's still one of my
favorite fucking things where they're talking about not white is
it Whitey Bulger, where it's the two fucking guys he
was the best guy around.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
That was this fucking al capone two and all of them,
all the mobster gangter gangter gangster mentality guys.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Jesus, I gotta know you've never seen that one specific
video though, of that he was the best guy around.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Oh now, sure you're not talking about Jimmy the Greek
talking about Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
By the way, if you think about that one murderer,
did Jimmy the Greek? Thing? Now for people that aren't
you know, around our age, remember this was basically they
interviewed the equivalent of like Caucasian Steven A. Smith, and
he started getting into like a little bit just a

(02:26):
dash of almost EUGENICSS talk. I guess, just the light dusting, just.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
You know, just to him. No, lure, I got you right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Where he was well basically what he was saying. I mean,
if you think about it, if you actually see the clip,
if I remember correctly, you see people near him kind
of like back away, like like I don't want to
I don't want to be in frame of this, which
you have to think forty years ago, if you're doing
something forty years ago that could be construed as offensive. Wow,

(03:01):
Oh come.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
On, that's not any worse than what was it the
John Wayne interview that what was it like five six
years ago? They dug up and playboy from seventy years
ago and said, look at what he said about black
people seventy years ago.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
But who expects I guess it kind of goes back
to in the wrestling world the undertaker principle, as I
would call it, where it's like, well, what do you expect?
You know, I.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Expect you to change with the times. They expect you,
as a cornerstone of entertainment media, especially as a big
actor or a musician, to be the forefront of all
changes of all new political ideologies.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah but no, no, miss, that's somebody that's been dead forever, right,
you know what I mean? Like, that's my thing, Like,
do you know what if you're still somehow one hundred
and twenty years old, let's say, and you're still talking
about like head shape, but you're like, you know, the
head shape of people, I'd be like, all right, it's
time to get it's time to grow up a little.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Settle down in dicaprioll. Yeah, no, I got it right,
right right.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
I'm like, all right, that's a little much you know,
it's like, well, let's talk about the shape of craniums.
I'd be like, all right, you need to mature. But
if it's somebody in nineteen thirty and they're like, yeah,
that makes sense to me, I'd be like, hey, of course,
you don't fucking know anything. People in the eighties truly
believes And I know I've made this point before, but
I think it really does bear repeating. They really believed

(04:30):
that AIDS could only happen to gay people. They thought
of virus, well.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
That in monkeys. They thought it was best reality and
they thought no because they also thought it was shared needles.
They were big into that.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Well they knew eventually it was shared.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah maybe, but yeah, they definitely gay sex was number one,
and number two was monkeys, and then I get yeah,
number three was you know, stop taking out other people's
heroin needles.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
So gay sex was definitely number one.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Number one totally.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Where number one.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
It's probably the most that case X has been talked
about in the media ever since.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
So I'm sure by the way I've put the clip
in there for you, that's a classic right there. Classic.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
It was the best guy around.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
What about the people he murdered.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
What murderer?

Speaker 3 (05:24):
What might Uh, it's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
He was the best guy around. I love that fucking clip.
Oh my god. Which, by the way, like you people
wash that and they go how silly, how ridiculous? Can
you believe it? I'm like, but people are still like that,
just quiet they just quietly about it.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
You know.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
I don't know it's that. I mean, I think it
still depends more based on the area, right. I think
that uh, people that live in high flutin areas, live
in urban areas and such have probably more, uh more
understanding of what's acceptable and not acceptable than people out
in the middle of the Appalachians, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, the middle of nowhere people that's well, there was
a there's some channel. I think it's called like Joe
and Nick's car, No, like road trips or something like that,
where it's just a couple and the drive around places
all over America. A lot of the times I saw you.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Hit feed with that shit. Yeah no, I got youa.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, they hit like rural fucking random places and like
they went to Oklahoma. I think maybe like a couple
of weeks ago, and I know, OK, he's here and
he can I'm not speaking out of turn here, but
you watch the clips of it and you go, oh
my god. These people have like a say, like they

(06:54):
get to vote and shit, and like they're a part
of the country. It's like they think this is what
the world like. They're like, oh yeah, this is what
America's like, just completely burnt out, fucking diarrhea shithole top
to bottom. Which, by the way, those are also the
same exact people that'd be like, don't come here from
these shit old countries. I'm like, you're a shithole country, right.

(07:18):
Have you seen your fucking state. It's diarrhea top to
fucking bottom. It's horrible. But like you watch that and
you go, oh yeah. These people also like they think
like they're fucking on the same level and they're voting,
and there's like you expect them to have as much

(07:38):
of an understanding. There's no way you could. And I
know it's a you couldn't you're thinking, you what, you're
being a bit I'm sorry people who live around people
and have to like experience life daily. You live in
a place with a burnt out fucking post office and

(07:59):
like a falling over gas station and there's nothing there
and the closest thing is a Walmart an hour and
a half away. We're not living the same life at all.
I mean by your silence is making me think that
you believe that that's a hell of a way to live.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
No, no, no, no, no, I don't even.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
You know, you don't you know exactly what.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
We're driven through a lot of these towns, right Like,
I've done the cross country trip more than a few times.
I'm gonna get ready to do it again soon. You know,
some of that stuff is appealing to me because of
how small and backwater it is. Maybe it's the King
of the Anhill condition, but I don't think so. I
don't think that that's my type of ego. I just

(08:42):
think I like these small, simple towns because it's almost
a walk back in the past.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Right.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Maybe I don't look down on them because the fact
that you know what they vote isn't necessarily the most
informed choice. But you're also talking about a world in
twenty twenty six where everybody under the sun has connection
to the Internet. And that's not all.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, but what's the internet now, missus? That's not an
honest look at things.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
You're You're right and I'm not saying that it is,
but it is an opportunity to become educated, well better
educated than just talking to your neighbors around the block.
But I mean that's like, like I said, I'm not
going one way or another. I understand that education is
probably the biggest crime in this country, you know, the
fact that people aren't better educated and continually educated. That's

(09:31):
one thing I definitely fell in love with looking at
other cultures where they still promote education even in your
adult years. And I know we kind of do that
too with the webinars, the web seminars that you can
take for credits or whatever.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
But it's I mean barely, we barely encourage adults continue learning. Rather,
I mean, that's that's the reality of it.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
But I also like all the other difference though, too,
is that other other countries still award their edge ducated
people with better jobs or better positions in their job. Here,
it doesn't fucking matter.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
No, We're find ways to fire them right.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
And then hire people that don't know any better cheaper.
That's the first medical systemically, the the entire the entire
thing here is broken. So when you're kind of coming
down on poor oaky people, I'm just kind of like,
we really need to kick dust on them, like they mean,
they don't know any better to do. You're like a

(10:30):
magnifying glass burning ants. It's just like this, funny.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Well, I didn't say I'd burned thems. You you would
believe to burn their towns down, which I also can
see why you would.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Think metaphorically, Joe Meta.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
They probably also hate you. You got to remember that too.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Oh, I'm sure they do what. I'm sure the same
thing as fucking Kentucky me walking out of a bookstore
with my with my wife and if they think that
I'm capturing her or something, they said, my white wife, Yes,
my wife. Wi, I'm with a white woman. Guys, you
gotta leave me alone.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, I do that sometimes, should I got my white wife?

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Like, I didn't even say white. I think I stumbled
a wife twice. Jesus, I know you.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Did, but it's way of finding you to say your
white wife, that's my white wife.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
So like Becky Lynch, Jesus, my hot husband.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
My hot husband, my white wife.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Col Colby could say.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
That, oh is he actually Hispanic or did he get
adopted by a Hispanic family? I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
I thought he was like part not full Coleby Lopez.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, I don't know. Well, no, I think he's adopted
and then he was adopted. Yeah, I think it was
one of those that.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
So he's he's Latin by proxy, yes, okay, yeah by
me hell An by the way.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah, Latin Latin by proxy.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Latin by proxy. I'd go see them in a concert
and then have Shirley Manson talk about killing me. I
mean great, that.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Sounds like if Uh what Jeff Hardy's band's name? But
they did like Reggaeton. Ah, because isn't his band's name
like per Peroxygen, question Mark or something like that. I'm
not kidding. I think that's the name of it.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Thank you, Gorgeous City. Sorry, what is it?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Oh? He's Arman, He'sian, and he's Dominican. Get out of here.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Dominican and Armenian. Uh are you sure? Is he sure?

Speaker 2 (12:31):
He's like he's like a California new metal band in
one person. Huh, Armenian and Hispanic? But what kind of boy?
Now I'm going the Hispanic is Oh, he's cool, he's Cuban. Cools,
He's Kuban like him and Cody. Oh maybe that's his conversation.

(12:56):
You know what, maybe that's what Like the people in
wrestling media that are also just like kind of coded
with being a little sketchy racist, they should be like
these half Cubans.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
They should come out. They should have come out the
King Bonnals with Seth Seth Rollins and those are about
to call him Seth Rogan, Seth Rogan and Cody Runnolds.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, by the way, at this point, like Cody his
he still looks like his dad, but his face is
starting to look fucking weird. Dude, I think it's really
he's gotten work done right, I hope. I don't know
if he's he's.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Got some of that brandy face going on. I think
I think they go in for twinsies, they go to
the spot together, they go get themselves a Hong Kong rub,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
So do you think that he, like for example, and
obviously Randy Orton could still get I mean, if he
wasn't a happily married man, I'm sure he do just fine.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Joe offering, you could definitely get some Joe. I hear
voices in my you want a cup of Joe? Sorry?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Hit me with that arcade. Oh oh no, dude, there's
a maybe that's like one of those reverse things they
got going on where they were like good looking younger guys,
but now they're aging weirdly.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah. No, I know exactly what that is, believe me.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Well, no, nobody as opposed to some of us guys
who are lucky ducks, where they're like, what happened to
that guy? Well, you see he got he went bald
and got a beard, and they're like, you look so
much better.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, man, if I have long hair, I'd be completely worthless.
I'm just saying, on the eyes, dear lord, I have
to keep this hair and just pray it doesn't ever
go gray. I don't even have silvers in my hair.
I just have like one or two strands. And I'm like, man,
I'm real thankful for the genetics in this line.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
But you'd probably look cool with gray hair, though not
gray white white hair. White hair always look.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Grandpa had silver hair and my uncle, my uncle has
silver hair, so it's like a little mix of the
darkness still in there. But yeah, I don't want it.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah that looks cool, though I think that doesn't look bad.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
But I never met my great grand or. I never
met my great grandfather and my mom's or my Japanese
great grandparents, the males, so I don't know what their
hair looked like. Apparently they didn't go bald, so I'm
happy for that.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, you gotta keep you gotta keep up, keep up
with that lucky streak. But no, it's not bad for
your hair to turn it like some people. It looks
good for guys, if anything, that looks weird for some
dudes when you see them and you can tell, like
their faces three shades more wrinkled than their hair color
should be.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah, but we were talking about a guy. We actually
had this discussion before a while back, and you were
telling me about a guy who was like fifteen, sixteen
years old and he was already going full gray by
the time.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Oh yeah, yeah, I had a couple of those friends.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, he's hitting his twenties and he looked like the
old man at the bar. And I'm like, that's fucking horrendous.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, But at the same time, if you're good looking enough,
you're fine.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Were they good looking enough, Joe?

Speaker 5 (16:02):
No?

Speaker 6 (16:02):
But if you're good looking enough, oh no, man, imagine
if you like a what George Clooney like, come on, man, No,
if you.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Think yourself, like if you put yourself into the mindset
of a well like what Grandy Orton, twenty five year
old Randy Orton with a full gray head of hair,
will still be fucking yes, smashing ass. You know, he
would have been fine, he was, We would have done
just fine.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
He was a ridiculous to it, I'm sure, sure.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, but he's also now.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
Like I said, remember, remember there was a girl that
used to be a part of the show way back
in the day. I'm not gonna anawere it, but uh
didn't she wasn't she a part of those boards that
every time Randy Orton like flew internationally and went to
different countries like Australia, there was like a litany of
girls that would just bang the fuck out of the wrestlers,
and they all had like a forum board where they

(16:52):
talk about their dick sizes and shit. And we remember
that was like.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
A world that now exists. But I think it just
remains in like insta gram dms quietly instead of out
in some sort of forum type environment, because that happens.
You hear this about athletes and rappers and shit, it's
like they all fuck the same women. Yeah, and like
it's kind of kind of fucking weird, don't oh gross.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
I mean they're obviously starfuckers, they're colluckeding their ticket, right,
But I just thought it was interesting that you hear
you have a forum a VVB from back in the
day of just like ten thousand women all talking about
the time that they fucked Randy Orton, And it's just wow, Okay.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
What is what does that do? Like I think about this,
you know, from the place of like what does that
do to your brain as just a person, like a
regular person, where somehow it's like, yeah, there's like communities
of people who are trying to get my j'z. Well,
it's like, look, that's a little much. Don't you think.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Andy Orton's dick was a little booboo back in two
thousand and nine? Man, Like it's just.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
It's yeah, just yell, Randy Orton, your dick is a
la boo boo and he's just like, dude, this fucking
acid is hitting so fucked up? Don't you kind of wish?
I wish I got to hang out with pillhead Randy
Orton back when he was fucked up.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Oh it was fun. Yeah, you still see, it's like
a fun dad. He strikes me as a fun dad.
You know who doesn't strike me as a fun dad anymore?
McK foley. Jesus, Oh well.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
McK foley is just at this point, do you know
what it is? It's like it bothers me sometimes because
the guy will say something and I go, all right,
at it's route, I see what you're saying. But he's
dec genuous as shit and I know that, like I
know that personally that he's full of shit. And that's
what bugs me because I'm like, you know what if

(18:54):
I think that you believe this in your heart of hearts,
but I'm like, you're also just a fucking phony, and
I know that already. You know, Like, that's what bugs me.
I will put this, you know what standing.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
I'm gonna open box conditionally that's what he does.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
And I'm gonna rubber stamp this. I'm just gonna put
this boom just into the ether. Uh. I foresee a
Mick Foley John Moxley match in England in August. I
don't now, do I think it's a good idea?

Speaker 7 (19:25):
No?

Speaker 2 (19:26):
No, I think it's a horrible I would I be
shocked if that happened though, No, no, how see him?

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Let me ask you this, if this is gonna happen,
if we're gonna play Devil's Advocate for a moment, how
much does Mick Foley get on that payday from Tony Kahan?

Speaker 2 (19:45):
A couple grand probably, But you have to think from
from this perspective, right, Like, also knowing enough about that
Legends deal, where like him saying it like I said,
he's just a fucking phony. Where with the Legends deal,
like I am making a sacrifice, I'm like, you're not
really though, because those Legend deals suck. They're great if

(20:06):
you have no opportunity to make money and you're poor
as shit, right, but if you're already a multi millionaire,
it's not doing that much.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
I always felt like Mick Foley didn't market himself well.
I mean after retirement, like for a while, I mean
for the guy who was constantly plugging himself on TV,
and it just felt like, man, you really could have
done more if you had I don't know, maybe better
management or something. Because Mick Foley. As far as all
the guys that we've seen do podcasts and stuff, Mick

(20:36):
Foley was one of the guys I was always expecting
kind of like Steven Richards. It took Stephen Richards a
while to get into this role. I know he did
stuff with Fox, and he was doing other things too,
Like he was a tech guy for a while there,
but he's like it's another at the time, especially a
really opinionated, a really intelligent guy who had a lot
of respect from fans and a lot of history not

(20:58):
just in the States but worldwide. And I always thought
it was a missed opportunity for even back in the
days when Stone Cold didn't even have a podcast up yet,
that Mick Foley didn't cash in on that.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Like I just yeah, he tried, I think at points
right to do the podcasts, and I think I.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Don't think I've ever heard a single. I've heard him
on podcasts, yeah, but never running.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Be wrong, but I have a feeling maybe it's just
one of those now.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Oh fo pod, Okay, no, no, Phil saying Fobia's pod.
When did that come out? I really don't know, man,
I'm not even trying to be ignorant.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Long long, long time ago, but but that's it is,
like that was one of those random just I remember
seeing it at some point, right, I just can't put
it on a scale. I'm like, yeah, Foley, for sure,
he's dude. He has done every average oh.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Ten, Richard is saying twenty ten. So there there was
the money, wasn't there yet. See that's one of those
things that if Foley had more love for the game
god by twenty fifteen, he'd have been breaking it in
raking or.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
If he knew how to. But this is the problem
too with like over exposing yourself and wrestling in general.
There's some people like a cornette who people will listen
to your listen to a cornette talk about the fucking weather.
They're fine with that. They can do that forever because
his personality is also akin to like an actual broadcaster,

(22:24):
so they enjoy it as opposed to Foley, where it's
like how many times are you going to tell you
about falling off the cell in Pittsburgh before you're like, okay,
enough of that.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
You know, he was a lot more integrated even in
his books. I mean, I don't know which how many
books you read? I think you had, like what five
books I think I read?

Speaker 2 (22:42):
I read the first two I read the obviously Folly
is good, and then those the book with the orange cover. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Actually the first two head orange covers I believe I
Have a Nice Day was with the black with the
orange at the top right and it had the mask
on it, and then yeah, Foley as good as the
second one with his face on it, and then the
orange backer with the soft cover. But yeah, no, he
did it. He did it. I mean he did the
TNA ones who like ha ha. But still he was

(23:10):
always very engaging in his books, and I always thought,
I'm like, wow, there's a real opportunity for the person
to come through on this. And even his DVDs. I
don't know if you remember his WWE DVDs, but he
really came off well on that. It's just it's kind
of sad missed opportunity. But then you see what he's
been posting for years now, he's kind of gone off
the rails. And like you said, because you would know
better than I would, that a lot of his points

(23:32):
are disingenuous, you know, and.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Well he's he's phony. Like that's the problem is, Like
I said, I when he was like listen, this Rob
Reiner thing is fucking disgusting, I'm like, well, basically, anybody
that's not completely wrapped up into the cult bullshit, excuse
fucking Trump for everything. It's it's fucking repugnant, like that
shit's gross And anybody who's listened to this for a

(23:56):
long time, I'm not someone that's like how a fence?
But it's like, you can't two months ago being like
we need to put people in jail to say anything
about Charlie. You can't do that two months ago and
then have the fucking president two months later being like,
so he had his next slip by his child. Must

(24:17):
be because of me, right, must be because he doesn't
like me. It's like, you don't think that comes off
as fucking weird or gross, I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
But see, here's the thing though, too fucking weird. And
this is the one thing that I hit about the
social media because I agree with your points there. But
would he have said things differently if he had a
platform to talk for an hour about it? Do you
know what I mean? Like, I know what you're saying. Again,
I'm not taking away what you know about the guy
through your friends and through yourself, but I'm just thinking, like,

(24:48):
if this guy had a chance to explain his tweets,
his one hundred and twenty characters at max over an
hour long format. And I'm not saying that he would
suade you, but would that have humanized his point a
little bit, or or would it have made it worse
or would have you had too much time to really
hammer through some gross human or lack of humanity type things.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Well, like a situation like this, this is not This
is not one of those things where like I should
or anybody should have to convince you that that's fucked
up rights. It's cut and dry. There's not a lot
of subjectivity to this conversation where it's like, hey man,

(25:29):
some guy was just murdered by his child and his wife,
and his wife and one of the other kids found
their dead bodies, and your reaction to it is well,
I guess he's just a loser because he didn't like me.
And you're supposed to be like an actual like you're
not some dickhead schmuck on Twitter with like I love

(25:52):
titties for twenty sixty nine, Like you're supposed to be
an adult.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
I don't think people talk enough about decorum on social
media right because it's it's really difficult to sort through.
I mean, even something as simple as a joke. How
many times have you seen comedians cut jokes online and
it turned into something horrendous, like just a backlash over
a simplistic thing that was supposed to get a couple
of hajas and usually be absurd at the same time.

(26:23):
But people take it seriously and there's just this weird
decorum that are you supposed to be able to be
yourself on social media or are you supposed to be
a political correct version of yourself on social media?

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Because it seems it depends on who you are and
what in a lot of respects what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
If it does, man, like anybody is subject to the
fucking machine, everybody is subject to it.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Like well, I mean I'm saying in terms of how
it more than likely should be judged. Like I said,
if you're just some fucking dickhead that works at the
mall and you're laughing, you're like fucking stupid lib gu
you feel killed. It's like, all right, you're still fucking gross,
but you have absolutely zero actual power say in the world,

(27:07):
actually have no influence, You don't really matter in the
grand scheme of things.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Just being Dan, you know, Dan kind of puts it
forth right. He says, you're supposed to be the president
at all times, you know what, completely agree, completely agree.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
I think that's not a part time job.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
I mean here when you're in a position of power
and people are and you know, people are listening, not
with the idea of, oh, it's Donald Trump's stand up hour. No,
I totally agree it's Donald Trump. Probably should have his
Twitter taken away. Again, I'm just saying, but, but that's
because he's also a position of power. He's looked at

(27:43):
by other powers across the world.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Like there's just a.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Lot of cringey stuff that he does, you know, publicly, socially,
and it's yeah, it's you think he'd have a handler
at this point, but I don't know what that is.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
But I'm not.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
About that, deep Joe. I'm literally talking about people like
a Mick Foley, Like it's like, can somebody tell them
the decorum to run a social media account? You know
what I mean. Like, we're not talking about the president,
Like the president is a gimme fucking Dan's right, that's
a layup. He should fucking shut the fuck up half
the time. Nobody wants to hear his inside thoughts, you know,

(28:17):
it's but.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
But what scares me with him though, and like not
scares me, but what concerns me, I should say, is
sometimes I think to myself, I go, but is that
even him writing it or some fucking intern.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
I think that's even better that he's got a prep sheet. Yeah,
that's yeah, that's hilarious. That's hilarious that his prepsheet guy,
the person that could be the filter, would still be like,
you know what, yeah, go out there with I bet this.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Is what he'd think. That's even worse. But that's what
I'm saying, Like there's some part of me that I
even think to myself, I'm like, this might not even
just be him thinking this is cool. Like he might
be running this through a couple people and they're like, yeah,
that would be awesome. That'd be awesome if we wrote that,
that'd be smart.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Off us all laughs uncomfortably. Oh we'll run with this
one guys, okay.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Whoa good idea, but also dude at the same exact time,
and he's like, I get it. There's people that this
is their fucking dude whatever, I'm never going to change
your mind. You know, there are people that there's old
people in Italy right now that it would be like,
don't you say a fucking word about Mussolini, Like that's

(29:31):
that's still going on. This is the rest of our lives.
I hope you know this that Like Trump could set
half the fucking planet on fire and take a shit
personally in all of its supporters' miles, and those people
would be like, well, the fire was to keep us
warm and the shit was delicious, Like that's what you're
dealing with. We're going to hear this for the rest

(29:52):
of our lives and you're never going to sway those people,
So don't bother. But that's thirty five percent of the
you talk about the.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Rest of our lives, and I'm gonna talk about the
rest of the show because we've got a ship box
here with a bunch of of shit we got. Uh,
We'll start off with this one. Fuck you, John Cena.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
I wonder what this is gonna be A Don c
is gone from rustling.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
He's gone.

Speaker 8 (30:21):
Thank you Jesus, Finally, this stupid cornball, motherfucking cot sucking
backstage politician, possibly a fucking robot motherfucker is gone. Thank
you fucking Jesus Christ, Thank you finally, he's gone.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
You play that. This is the best guy around over him.

Speaker 8 (30:46):
Oh God, some fucking good ship right there. God damn,
that's good ship. I tell you don't like a cold beer.
A fucking quarter to three in the morning, you're still
sucking up celebrating John's heat's retirement.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
It's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
I love it.

Speaker 8 (31:02):
It makes you want to do cocaine in the morning, honestly,
but I'm too portal for cocaine.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
What's okay? Beer's all right, it's fine.

Speaker 8 (31:11):
And what the fuck was up with that shitty fucking
tap out that he did to end the fucking match
and smiling like, oh, this is nice, like you were
letting out a fucking fart. That was just like, oh,
you've been holding it in this entire time. That's the
fucking match was. It was a giant fucking fart, just stupid.
And then that fucking gay ass fucking marine salute at
the fucking end, just the Pranda marine in one movie, John,

(31:33):
one fucking time, you stupid cornball motherfucker. It was a
pleasure serving you all these years. Fuck you see you know,
go be a terrible actor, please, Michael, did you know
Jesus he's still going here. You see, I'm having too
much fucking fun right now. I'm about five beers, might

(31:55):
be six times. This is this voice fails over.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah, we can hear.

Speaker 8 (31:58):
I am just I'm having so much fucking fun. And
it's three o'clock in the goddamn morning. I have not
stopped drinking since like midnight when I got home from work.
This is just amazing. This is this is fantastic. I
love this ship. This is just the best, man. I mean,
it feels like it's it's it's morning again in America.

(32:20):
Oh ship, that's what it feels like that John Cena
has retired, and it's a shitty morning. It's like a
morning in Cleveland where it's all sloggy and states like
ship and muddy and rainy and you kind of want
to kill yourself.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
I don't. I'm not sorry Cleveland. Fuck you guys.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
You deserve it. But you know it's morning again. But
you know it's crappy because we got to take what
is going on youth though.

Speaker 8 (32:46):
But he tapped me out, John Cena, because that somehow
makes it that just.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Cancels that out like it. I don't all.

Speaker 8 (32:53):
I guess stampunk being a world champion cancels up the
fact that he got his ship pushed too live pair
of view in UFC, Big Fan lost every legitimate fight
he's ever been in prior to joining UFC. Just I
don't I don't know what you.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Want to Kie have something?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
I would?

Speaker 7 (33:15):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Why does he have the speech patterns of Bernie Mac?
I think he's a little drink, a little drunk.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Don't put that. Don't put that on Bernie Mack.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Have the kids, he's got down kids?

Speaker 3 (33:29):
It's Chicago, Jesus.

Speaker 5 (33:31):
Ch is it?

Speaker 2 (33:32):
It's a Bernie. Oh is Bernie Mac from Chicago? Oh see,
I didn't know that he's the real steam punk.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Then he's the real steam punk.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, stem steam punk? What's the sweatest steem punk? Or
eating all the fucking muffins? Can I get some muffins?

Speaker 3 (33:52):
So do you think? Uh, mister Corvin, he is happy
about johnsona leaving Joe.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
I get I did not make any sense of that.
I felt like I was being yelled at out of
a car window. That's what it sounded like.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
To make a little bit. Let's go on, Joshua, Hey.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Boys?

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Honestly, I feel like Triple.

Speaker 9 (34:14):
H is getting the hate that he deserves. Right now,
let's as soothe because the follow retirement tour has just
been one big dud. I feel like this whole tour
had so much potential, even with the Guild turn. But honestly,
when things fell through with The Rock and Travis Scott,

(34:34):
the whole field tournament held, tournament nothing, and it just
kind of just left us in the dark because nothing
was ever explained. I feel like that's a common theme
now lately, and you know, I don't know. I just
feel like David V right now is in a weird
spot because things are happening that don't have explanations, like

(34:56):
Bronson Reed joining the Vision. I'm pretty sure we're not
even gonna find out why Austin Theory did what he did.
It's gonna be what it is. I don't think there's
gonna be one big promo, And even if he does,
with that reaction that he got on Monday, it kinda
already made me feel like this doesn't even matter anymore

(35:16):
because to me, the crowd reaction means everything, and since
that reaction was just dead, I was just like, well,
this this is pretty much den the water sucks because
it had some potential to be something cool, and it.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
Would have made more sense if Ricky showed up.

Speaker 9 (35:32):
So anyway, guys, it's want to say much love and
happy holidays.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Thanks Joshua.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah no, that was a very nom That was such
a normal voicemail.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Least from one of the better parts of the country.
Ah yeah, awesome. Theory is already dead in the water.
Nobody cares. I don't care what kind of story the
manufacturer for the guy, it's gonna feel forced unless he's
like Logan's butt boy or something.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
I don't know, And yeah, that's not a Well. This
is the funny thing is you would think in the
moment that they're at with this group, they would be
trying to add people, to draw interest to it, or
to add some spice to it, and instead they just

(36:16):
threw more fucking lettuce in the bowl. Yeah, just no taste,
no flavor, salary stick Austin ares or I always say,
Austin Airies. I can't fucking help myself. That's how fucking
a guy I haven't seen wrestle probably fucking ten years.
I'm like, yeah, that guy, Jesus God damn it. No,

(36:36):
But like that's it is. No one cares and does.
Like I said the other day, does anybody believe he's
going to come out a house of fire with a
great promo and become more interesting? Nice? Hope, Eric guy.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
I hope he's completely changed his life around found uh
found wrestling and uh yeah, maybe maybe he'll Wowace, but
come out of the gate being the guy that unmasked
for almost no fucking reason. I don't even care. I
don't even care what the reasons are. It just feels
so minuscule, you know, it's just such a backwater choice.

(37:11):
It's a lazy choice. And the fact that they thought
they were gonna drive up business or they were gonna
drive intrigue towards Oh my god, why did Austin Theory
do such a horrible thing? And why is he doing it?
In seth rollins moves.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Like and nobody like. Still, the most important thing about
this is, like you said, first of all, there's no
connection to this, there's no motivation to this, like unless
this was what two years ago, now, yeah, two years ago,
was he gonna say it be like we don't have
Vince left and they started pushing me. So I'm mad.

(37:48):
It's like that happened fucking years ago.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah, just wasn't like.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
I'll tell you. It just settled into me that I
got screwed over just now. How fucking dumb are you?
I know you're from Georgia, but my god, help you
a little bit of help. Stupid shit?

Speaker 3 (38:06):
You know Lewis from superculture?

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Oh oh hell yeah, what's up, guys.

Speaker 10 (38:10):
Hope you're both doing well. So twenty twenty five was
a bit of a shitter.

Speaker 11 (38:14):
When it came to wrestling this year, I thought, well,
I think I've pretty certain most of you will agree
with me, and I find it especially damning given that
I was at WrestleMania in April.

Speaker 10 (38:32):
As gidy as a kid on Christmas, and We'll just
getting to the end of the year and I'm just
so apathetic and done with this modern day mediocre shite
that we're just getting week in and week out. I
just said, I don't need it, and I'm not going
to need it because I've got other things to be
watching and you know, preoccupying my time. You know, I've

(38:52):
got English football in the Premier.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
League that I can watch.

Speaker 10 (38:56):
I've got the NFL last few weeks of the regular season.
You know, soon enough, it'll be the playoffs and then
the super Bowl. I've got like a back catalog of
TV shows that still got to get to. I've got
like movies that I really want to watch, Like I'm
watching the New Knives Out movie on Christmas Eve because
you know, I really want to because those first two
were fucking brilliant. I'm all set. I don't need this

(39:18):
modern day mediocre bullshit that's popping about all over the place.
Also a triple h. Can you stop being a big
Tony Khan like he does with his big announcement non
dynamites that ultimately fall as flat as a fucking pancake.
Cheers very much, your big nose shitter. Much love as usual, guys,
wrestling super motherfuckers.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
I mean, what a voice. I love that guy's voice.
It's very soothing.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
It really is trailed off. I was joking about that
with Dan the other day too. I'm like, yeah, you
saw the last good WrestleMania. You saw the last one, because.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, we might not get another one of those.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah, really, Yeah, it looks like we're in the lean times,
my guys.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Time we're returning to when it was like, you know,
Sina Waning Sena versus fucking Seamous as your main events,
except bad Seamous instead of now interesting Seamus. Right, it's
gonna be boring Shamous known as State Cup. That's gonna
be facing whomever in a dullard ass match. Like, I

(40:19):
don't know, it is very, very hard to get motivated
to be like all right, yeah, Rumble's coming up. That'll
be good. Yeah, who, Like, Okay, I know this just
seems like a pie in the sky kind of thing.
You know, we still have a little bit of time,
what two months, not even? But is there anybody you

(40:40):
even are looking and saying if they won the Rumble,
that would be cool?

Speaker 3 (40:43):
Dominant?

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Oh but you know what is he like officially now
our cheat code WWE's failings Like well, I mean with.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
The women, there's a few women, right, Like I get
through explaining myself about that too, because I was put
on blast a. You guys hate all the women like
Maxine is great and blah blah blah, And I'm like, dude,
that's such crazy, that's such bullshit. I'm like, dude, we've
never talked shit about Ria Ripley. We love fucking Oscar,
we love Charlotte Flair. And I kept going down the
list of people like I've been always a huge fan
of Naomi Like, and I'm like, there's and there's other

(41:17):
people that you know, we were completely behind that shit
the bed, like Tiffany Stratton, and I said, there's other
people that we fucking hated seeing on TV that now
we look forward to, like a Live Morgan. So it's
not as if it's always just oh, you guys are
just one sided shit, No, it's not. There's nuances. There's
layers to this, like a fucking onion. But Dominic is
just consistently an impressive part of the show. He's fun

(41:41):
to watch Wressell, He's fun to watch Cheat. His promos
are funny, his backstage segments are funny. What's wrong with Dominic?
Why would anybody find fault in that guy? You know, well,
that's also whird.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Like when we were talking about those goofy, bullshit fucking
Sports Illustrated Awards, It's like you could have lobbed a
couple of those. Is a dominant and anybody who was
reasonable would understand. Of course that would have also have
been fine. And truthfully, we're not gonna see it happen.
They're not gonna push him ahead of a guy like

(42:14):
fucking bron Break or whomever that they decide God help
us if it's Austin, the crowd might have theory if
God help us his theory.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
But you know, but the crowd might. I mean, especially
now with the Triple Aaker, I wouldn't be surprised. I mean,
Jesus Christ, if they put El Grande back on WWE
TV regularly, I bet you he'd be insanely over right now,
you know, I think.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
That, well, is Penta really fucked up? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:42):
They actually his match, they pulled his fucking match, so
he had a big main event with him and his
brother versus I think it was supposed to be dominicant
El Grande and they pulled that.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
So that sucks. That really really sucks because like but
once again, I guess it's one of those you know
moments where you look at it and you go, well,
this is why you gotta rush sometimes, Like we can't
sit around and wait for La Night forever because I
think they yeah, I know they're around the same eighte.
But like, if Pant's not a young guy either.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
There's a few people in the tank that we still
have hope for. I'd like to see Chad Gable make
a big return at Royal Rumble.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
That'd be nice.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
I'd like to see nice if Kevin Owens is okay.
I know people are like, now he's done, he's done,
he's done. But I don't know, man, do you know what.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
I've kind of Maybe it's just because he's somebody that
I've liked for twenty years to where at this point
I'm coming to Pater like I'm like, I I'm gonna
make peace with it. Like I'm not gonna sit there
and be like he's coming back anytime now, Like I'm like, no,
if he doesn't. I And by the way, like I
totally watched this happen, you know, like there's no shock

(43:56):
to this, like big Ee retire and getting dumped on
his head by fucking e beggar.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Yeah, but he did the right Okay, So here's the difference.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
R Right. But what I'm saying like, in that situation,
that's a shock. That's a shock, big yeah, but that's
a shock like we go, oh shit, nobody saw Biggie
fucking being retired in the next five to ten years.
Nobody saw that, right, But I've watched Kevin Owens get
like his next mush through ladders for fifteen twenty years,

(44:25):
so it's like, yeah, he might really be heard. I'd
be yeah, yeah he might right, fair enough, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Age age comes before the fall or whatever. But but yeah,
it's it's one of those things. Though. If he is
kind of out of wrestling, he's definitely a guy who
need to keep around as much as he keep Biggie
around for being the charismatic powerhouse that he is. I
think Kevin Owens has that too.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Kevin needs to be on the French and Out team immediately.
To immediately put him on that French and US team.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
If I'm on fucking on RAW, I put him in
next to each other, next to fucking Joe Testicle and
have them just call Raw every Monday.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Well mean you know he's well, that's the nice thing
is he can he can do both. He can switch out.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Sure, oh yeah for plas, he can do the French.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
That would help. And I mean, I don't know. I'm
just going to assume that French speaking friends are pumped
for Sammy and pumped for Kevin Owens because they're like, yeah,
it's one of our guys. That's sick. I'm sure they're
happy about it. So when the time comes where they're done,
you should really know. Hey, guys, you want to at

(45:34):
least even do pay per views and stuff because you're
a fucking name that speaks this language. How lucky are
we to have you? A lot of people speak Spanish,
and you know that's not saying that. You know there's
not a lot of people that speak French, but put
it on the level of fandom. If you have wrestlers
with actual pedigree that have been heavyweight champions that are
speaking French, fucking sick, go with it. Do that, you

(45:58):
know too well. I'm not expecting him back anytime soon.
I'm coming to terms with it.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
Scooba, Steves, Brother, Sean, the.

Speaker 12 (46:06):
Mission, Joe Hope all as well. I want to apologize
for the last voicemail I left. I was drunk and
I want to talk about Force COUMP. So these things happen,
as you know. Anyway, I'm not sure if you guys
are Deaftones fans. I know that bald bitch John Draper
is just kidding.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
John.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
I love you man A huge fan of the band.

Speaker 12 (46:24):
They dropped a new album, I think it was an August.
It's called Private Music. The really good album is my
favorite album that they dropped since.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Probably their last two.

Speaker 12 (46:33):
So yeah, if you guys are fans, I was really
hoping to get your thoughts on it, if you like
they or not. Anyway, thanks guys, wrestling SUEP Motherfuckers.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
I got a couple of the older albums from the
Death Tones, but no, I don't follow him close so
much anymore. That's why.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
I was never huge on them. But I also find
it really interesting how they became like the chosen one
of those bands from that era, right, like of all
the people that really stuck, and I know they like
shifted gears and they started to make more like shoegazy
regular sort of just rock music. Like they didn't say

(47:08):
they didn't hold on to the new metal sound for
too long or even try to do what like Lincoln
Park did, which I know that that's like sacrilegious to
make fun of them, but let's be real. They had
a rapper in the group, right, so they probably would
have eventually. Imagine if then this sounds so shitty, but
like if that dude was still alive and making music

(47:28):
and it was twenty twenty five and you have two
men that are fifty years old and one of them's
actually like singing, and then there's like a white fifty
year old guy next to him being like yeah, and
then I'll go through my shit. Yeah, life is so hard. Yeah,
you'd be like, oh God, please, this fucking age, like milk,
get this the fuck out of here.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
There's a lot of pens that have evolved like that
over the years. I mean, Ministry is still putting out albums,
which is just fucking crazy to me. But uh yeah, No,
Deftones were up there, Queens of the Stone Age kind
of revamped themselves a little bit, is my mind. That
fucking Depeche Mode of all people are still putting out
albums too, and they were putting them out in what
the early eighties, So.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
There's some weird, weird outliers for people that are still
from that like late nineties, where you're sitting there you're going, oh,
they're they're still doing it. They're going through and successfully too.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Thrill Kill Collge, Wow, jesus, I haven't heard of them
since the nineties.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Fuck, well, that's elect If you're making electronic type music,
you can just fucking with.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
They were electronic in the industrial sense, because I mean,
they were along with like Sister machine Gun and like
what like a V and V Nation or a Die Crew,
and it's like, yeah, it's it's wild to talk about
them in twenty twenty fucking six.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, But you know what though, that's one of those
things that people don't talk about. I feel like with
the electronic type music, you don't really age out of
that in the way that you can age out of
other genres because your voice and you or presence or
essence isn't exactly the driving factor of the music.

Speaker 10 (49:05):
Right.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
So, like I said, if you're a fifty year old guy,
that's rap it and you're like get pussy up in
the club and people are like, no, you're not. You're
fucking fifty shop. But like if you're a fifty year
old man playing EBM music and you're a DJ, people
are like, oh, yeah, this DJ has been around a
long time. That's cool. They're okay with it. You know,
they can fuck with that and still be into it

(49:26):
and it's not weird as opposed to like, once again,
if it's some guy that's trying to be like a
young man's genre and people just look and go, no,
that's that. Time's past, but that's over. You know, let's
go to Chris Adams.

Speaker 13 (49:43):
Gentlemen there, Joe chat Okay, John Cena, your long retirement,
announcing every week how many matches he has left. Stupid,
he'll turn stupid having him retire in Washington, DC and
not Boston, fucking massive choose, it's stupid, yeah, right, having
Gun there, not stand over him and just annihilate him

(50:06):
after the match to get that heat on him.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Stupid.

Speaker 13 (50:09):
Yeah, rustling soup, Merry Christmas, motherfuckers.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Thanks Chris. Yeah, No, that's short and sweet to the point.
You're absolutely right, And that's kind of the way we
felt about it. I think I think a lot of
the backlash was that people thought that we hated John
Cena or that we hate fucking Gun there, and it's like, no, no,
it's it's none of those things. Really. It's it's more
along the way that everything came together. It just felt like,

(50:34):
you know, WWE, with a couple of pencil strokes, could
have come up with better ideas or ways to maximize
such a huge moment. And I'm not going to go
down the Jeff Jarrett route where this is the worst
fucking thing to happen in wrestling. But at the same time,
it's like this was literally low effort by WWE for
such an important moment, you know.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
And this was a gift, I mean in terms of
people in wrestling history, this was a gift for ww
to receive because how many guys and it's dark, but
it's real, how many guys their retirement matches them in
a pine box? Or I can't fucking move, so that's

(51:18):
guess I'm done wrestling, Or hey, how about the guy
that's booking right now, Hey, I caught a fucking massive
heart attack, Guess I'm done.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Yeah, we don't like that legacy induction for John Cana,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Right right, it's not you know, he runs through the
list of the people in wrestling, the stars, the big
fucking names, and it's like a lot of them got
injuries pine box. That was it, right. There wasn't the
ability to sit with them or sit with that idea
for even three months, six months, a year, two years,

(51:53):
and go, how do we wind down this person that
has been so fucking important to the wrestling business. And
no matter what I feel about Johnson as an ND
ring performer, if you even want to have the conversation
about Mount Rushmore's, which I always find to be pretty
reductive in when we're talking about something that's not even real,

(52:14):
it's a little absurd. But if you want to even
have one scene is on there, and the other guys
who would be on there would unfortunately probably be like
Hogan and Rick Flair, and what did we get out
of them in terms of being able to retire them?
Almost had something good with Flair couldn't fucking help himself. Well,

(52:36):
you know, but that's it. It's like you don't get
that a lot of.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
But then you get moments like the Eltimate Warrior, which
I know you weren't going to bring that one off,
but I mean, as dark as it as it is,
it really was a dark thing. But he really did
the perfect mic drop.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Wait was his name? Mike around name? Now that's what
I mean. That's if anything, that's some crazy fucking cowboys
ship if you think about.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
It, Shane walked off into the sunset. You know.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Yeah, I hate to invoke the Hangman, but that is
some cowboys ship where it's like I came out, I
said my piece, and then I fucking died like three
days later. It's it was the next morning, was it
really you know, I wanted to say that, but I
wasn't one hundred percent sure.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
The next day, like literally the next day.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
That's I'm laughing, But that is truly so fucking crazy.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
That's the man lived metal, the man died metal. That's
that is a good point. He he ran.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Fucking pumping his arms right into the afterlife. That's how
that went. But dude, that's like I said, you don't
get a lot of those. You don't get a lot
of those. Even you don't get that for Brett Hart.
Brett Hart didn't get that. There wasn't a year long
Brett Hart farewell tour.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Brett Hart got one last running.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
But do you know how fucking kind of funny it
is what you think about it where you're just like, man,
I guess the sub extent where you know, for old
crusty Fox, like I was talking about this, where it's like, man,
seen it didn't get the retirement, he desert. He didn't
get to like and then we're just like and then
here's Brett Hart. It's like he got a twenty year
legacy of shitting on Goldberg and calling people day that

(54:33):
was his farewell he's like, he's like that fucking idiot,
and then that homo sean he likes to have six
with men, like no, that was his farewell. That's how
he said, am I.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Nobody cancels Brett because Brett doesn't fucking care.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
You can't, can't, you can't cancel him.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
He just doesn't care.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
Well, dude, this is also I always found this to
be a thing. And this was even when that was
all the rage, the conversation about this person canceled or whatever.
I'm like, you have so much money and you don't
give a fuck, Like there's a level of your own
compliance to that and your own need from like the

(55:13):
general public, you know where it's like I don't need
an income from you, and I don't need your fucking admiration.
So you remove those two things and it doesn't matter
right right, Like what, well, Bret, Ah, I'm real upset
about you saying that I don't give a fuck. I
have like ten million dollars, I'm in Canada. I don't

(55:35):
fucking care, Like what what are you gonna take? What
are you gonna take? There's nothing to take, right And
like the part of that whole idea of like once again,
like where gonna your name is mud around here? It's
like where Twitter?

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Right?

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Because a fuck that doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
He's not fucking FTR. He's not sitting on Twitter wondering
about what people are saying about him. He doesn't care.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Do you ever think in that moment? Like for FTR,
also is Goldberg?

Speaker 3 (56:06):
Maybe he follows Goldberg just to get notifications. I would
love that. If Brett Hart has a fake Twitter account
and all he does is just troll Goldberg all day,
I'd be good.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
But he's got his glasses hanging off his nose. Just
you've got network news on the TV. Maybe some hockey replaced,
maybe those too, the ones that needs to give the kids.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
That'd be great.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Wilberg posts the thing He's like, look at my new truck,
and he's just.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Like, oh was there?

Speaker 2 (56:39):
It is Okaion? Do fuck you your mark? Piece of shit?
And then he just puts his phone down.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
He's like, all right, well back to hockey note right right,
he's Burg's day. Goldberg's all proud of himself for his
new truck, and his first comment is somebody calling him
a fucking mark.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
He just goes your crook. That's for guys, with tiny dicks,
little dick losers. And then he's just Goldberg is sitting there.
He's like, why why people mean to me? Don't they
know him?

Speaker 3 (57:12):
Cool dad says, hey, you know, Goldberg, don't kick the
headlights and ruin it. Fuck.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
By the way, I think about this, like some of
these dudes, some of these older guys and wrestling that
still do this shit, and even I guess like at
this point Dax and all of them fall under this
category where I'm like, you're middle aged.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Why do you really your hairs?

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Total total side note and I know you're going somewhere, yes,
a total side note. I just got myself a copy
of shawna Jump Weekly, which is an old Japanese comic publication,
and I got one from nineteen seventy eight with Abby
with Abby in it. Abby was put in this issue
from nineteen seventy eight, which thatch is already a pretty

(58:01):
high price. But I gotta find a way to get
Abdullah the Butcher to sign this thing. I don't know,
I don't even think he's ever signed one of them before,
and I'm sure he signed a million things, but this
is a Japanese publication from nineteen seventy eight in almost
mint condition. I'm like, dude, I got to I gotta
find a way to get to Vince Russo's new promotion

(58:23):
and get Abby to fucking sign it somehow.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Yeah, I was gonna say, just find a bum with
hep c to spit on it, closing up problem subs.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Yeah, by the way, it's not a manga of him, like,
I haven't even really opened it yet. I just got
this dirty bird, but.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
He doesn't want to crease it. But it's actually Hentai.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, in nineteen seventies Japanese Henti. I'm sure
that's real good.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Pull up my kidies and get it on and get
up in there.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
It's just bush that all the way down, you know.
It's just.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Lift up my belly and give a couple of licks,
like a lot of pop. M get up on, get
up in there. But dulus ship pipe, get open there.
But that's his But that's art. I'm sorry. I didn't
want to tell people's.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Heart doning Denoso de Sosa. Sorry the susa if it plays,
it might not play. It's the only it's acting like
it's gonna play, but it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Here we go, Hey, what up, Mesh, what up?

Speaker 7 (59:22):
Joey just to the suit Donnie Toy b C Canada.
Hey Mite, Uh yeah, Sina's gone. Blah blah blah, good times.
My son is a big fan of his and tricks
me in to buy one of his shirts and the
Salvation Army. Then once I walked to this store, he

(59:42):
just started. It was five years old at the time.
He just played laugh at me. Ah, Dad, you bought
it John Sina's shirt. Anyways, I'll watching SummerSlam in two
thousand and eight and.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Oh cut out. You know it's funny that he brings
up Johnson to be continued.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Yeah, I don't know what the fuck happened there, but uh, you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Can't hung up the phone. I think that's what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
All that Johnston a merch is going for thousands right now.
Some of that ship is insane. Dude, it is jacked up,
Like I I don't even know. I don't even understand why.
It's not like the dude is gone, but I mean
those are figures have scot They're.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Never gonna stop selling his merchandise. FYI, that's not going
to stop ever. Like if you're like, this is the
last time they're ever gonna print John Cena action figures?
Are you crazy?

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
But this is just for time he's wearing. The figure
is wearing a shirt that says the last time is now.
Oh my god, you guys got bamboozle. But then again,
like I keep the wrestling business going with it. You know,
I'm just amazing mark shit right there. I'm amazed that
everything is going up in price, and I'm even more
amazed people are buying it. That's what I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
That's the crazy thing, right, Like I have a U
I had a ring for sale, right, it came with
like Roman Reigned, Seth Rollins, John Cena and somebody else.
I've got who off the top of my head, right,
and I put it up for fifty bucks, the first one.
I have it a second one too, and it's sold
in like three minutes. I've never had anything sell that
fucking Like. As soon as I put it up, the

(01:01:21):
first person just bought it. And this was literally on
Saturday night.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
So well, I'll tell you what I would be doing
if I was you, well, this fucking iron's hot, I'd
be like, all my wrestling shit's going by by some
in the car.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
It really is it really is. I'm just I'll be honest.
The only thing I'm really holding on to for a
little bit longer are those Vince McMahon Funko pops. Because
I'm happy that Vince mc I'm happy that Funko is
dying because that's perfect. But then they have Vince McMahon. Yeah,
I'll eventually, uh eventually leave the Mortal coil Man. Those
season would be worth at least ten dollars. It's gonna

(01:01:59):
be great.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
I like the idea. You're like, they're gonna double say, Hey,
they're gonna go from five to ten dollars. All I
gonna do is hold on to them for the next
three to fifteen years.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Bids is probably not forty Jesus Christ, But.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Yeah, I know, shit right, he'll be fucking They'll have
him in the head like a Futurama style. We got
some of those jars. Brett Hart's thoughts on the John
cy the match.

Speaker 14 (01:02:21):
Thank god he's here to see his where the hit man, hearked,
and in regards to John Cena's retirement match, and looks
like Thanny Loss with a smile on his face and
the tiniest tap.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
You know, no offense, John, But that was not a
good place for you to be, you know, acting like
a little proceed, acting like you don't carry you and
all this for the fans. You're supposed to go out
swinging or you know, just win, you know, do something done,

(01:02:55):
the people home happy. And the worst part is that
fucking DKO company you work for. You know, the charge,
the arm and a leg for people to say by
to you, and you fuck them over. I'm happy. None
of my kids want to go to your fucking show.
Done respected. Hopefully you don't pull a Rick Flair co

(01:03:18):
out of retirement.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
No, my fucking kids, Jesus, honest, honest to God, no exaggeration.
That's better than Conrad shows. And so, like most most
wrestling podcasts I've heard in the past two to three years,
if he just did that for three to five minutes
and that was it, like just this is what happened

(01:03:43):
on RAW, I would listen to that. Yeah, I'd be pumped.
I'd be pumped to listen to just that. I don't
know what happened with this girl, this tiny blonde girl.
She's got a young face. She's calling herself Ivy, ivy
something I don't know i'd be profen like he'd be great.
That's you know what, sold fucking sold and Brett Brett rules,

(01:04:06):
Brett fucking rocks.

Speaker 7 (01:04:07):
Hey, guys, just coop for the poop box.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
I didn't really think that the way seen his last
match ended there was all that bad. I guess I'm
in that minority here, But the way I kind of
viewed it was the whole match seemed like the story
they were telling was Gunther just continuously wanting seen It
to tap out, wanting him to give up, and so
all he did was put him in sleeper after sleeper,
and seen It tried everything he could to counter it,

(01:04:32):
to try to fight back against guntherro but no matter
what Sena did, Guntherer was just able to overpower him
and just keep putting sleep on him and put he
put the sleeper on him like five six times in
the match. Yeah, and that last one where he just
realized that he couldn't get out of it, he kind
of just accepted his fate, that this is how he
was going to end, that he was bested by a
better man and his career was over, and he kind

(01:04:54):
of was happy that, or not maybe not happy, but
more so just content that it was over, and so
that's how I viewed it. That's how I viewed, you know,
him smiling at the end and saying, you know what,
more so like I accept my fate and you know,
I give up, and maybe in wrestling terms, like we're
not so happy because it's the super Sena thing to

(01:05:15):
just smile off and no sell, But that's how I
viewed it. And I even kind of heard a clip
that that's how Sena meant to have that message be
as his last match there. So I don't know, I
might be in the minority, but I didn't think it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
Was all that bad. Russell sup motherfucker's you know you
explain it kind of the way he did explain it
on Cody's podcast. I think we highlighted that clip a
little bit too, that he was just kind of accepting
his death and he was happy about it. And in
retro's back to listening back to our episode, even just
discussing it yesterday, it's like, yeah, that's a nice sentiment,

(01:05:53):
but that wasn't the John Cena character, Like it was
a right right. It was just it was a weird choice.
And again, I guess the storytelling of something so deep
wasn't put there. Maybe if I agree with a lot
of people, I agreed with what me and you even
said on Saturday, if they gave him a chance to
just talk, maybe explain some things, you know, maybe even

(01:06:15):
a pre match promo, like maybe you could have glazed
that fact into the match. But there was nothing really
there to make you think that this retirement was him
looking at the end of his life or the end
of his life is his character, and I don't think
it came through that way. I think the sloppy booking
over the past six months to a year doesn't help

(01:06:37):
with the heel turn and then not he'll turn, and
then the random tournament out of nowhere. It's just they
didn't do him any favors. So maybe if this was
like the long culmination of six months to a year
or two hundred and twenty dates like he wanted, where
he just kept fighting and fighting and fighting and fighting,
and this was the very last match all the people
that he faced, He's finally facing Gunther, and Gunther was

(01:07:00):
the one to finally beat the old man down. Yeah,
that would have been a fucking beautiful ending, But that's
not what this was, and that's not how it was presented,
and that's not.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
What we got.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Well, I mean, I also kind of hated the whole
idea that the heel turned babyface thing was so glossed,
like everybody just kind of blindly accepted it, Like I said,
but he's just good again, Like everybody there was just like, oh,
I guess it's just good again. That was also weird,
like to some extent if Gunter, like you said, if

(01:07:33):
he laid it on a little thicker even you know
where if say even two months ago when this tournament started,
or a month and a half ago or whatever, and
guns got on the mic and was like, I am
going to win this tournament because I need to remove
this coward from wrestling. John Cena is even too big
of a pussy that needs to be liked. He can't

(01:07:56):
even let himself be hated. I have no pro problem
with being hated. In fact, I can't wait to be
hated more, right, just because it's just like moving on
from this thing where so he turned. John Cena turned
after twenty years and then like within two weeks he's
like Dah Jones.

Speaker 11 (01:08:14):
And you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Right, right, Nah, just kidding. I'm actually a good guy
all time. Just kidding whatever, and everybody just goes, Oh,
I don't know what happened. I guess I just imagined
that he was a piece of shit, right, I just
dreamed that that was all a dream and nothing. None
of that must have happened.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
I mean, and look, I even remember when he was
doing those few promos, Me and you kind of praised
him because there was a lot of things that he's
bringing up on those promos that felt like good. They
felt like they came from a place that might have
been real, or at least at least thought about in
his personal life, you know, like they were absolutely accusatory

(01:08:54):
of the fans, the accusatory of the business. Like there
were things that John c what was saying during those
heel promos that probably mean more than even his retirement,
because they felt fresh. They felt like, here's a perspective
we're never gonna see again. And man, you come from that,
You come from that level of scraping his soul out

(01:09:17):
publicly for a guy that's so well guarded, so political
in all of his interviews to give people that in
a promo, and multiple weeks too. It wasn't just one week,
it was multiple promos that were really deep and moving,
like on the level and I remember even people putting
that on the level of the cmpunk pipe bomb. Shit,

(01:09:38):
it's just to end it like that with a smile
and supposed you know, I'm dead.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Now, and and honest to god, I do think that
had there been a little bit more reference to the
heel turn that came and went like it was nothing,
that might have also have helped. Because John Cena, in
his mind, the story that he thinks he's selling or
telling and the character that he thinks he's wrapping up

(01:10:06):
the career of we didn't this was all, as they say,
headcanon for Sina. They didn't play it out for us
where imagine I've seen it had even said in a
farewell promo or speech or anything. He been like, you know,
I've been going through a lot with the idea of
accepting that I can be John Sena the actor. I

(01:10:29):
can be John Sena the voice actor, I can be
John Scena the husband, but no longer, I'm going to
be John Sena the wrestler. And I was going through
it and a part of that was me doing something
I never thought I would do, which was I took
it out on you. Guys, and for that, I'm really sorry.
That's all that could have been. Just wrapped it up,

(01:10:50):
wrapped it up.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Do you think it would have been a different weight
if they didn't do the whole tournament thing and instead
of being like this big announcement for the last six
months of Johnsene's going to retire, John Scene's going to retire.
Do you think it would have hurt financially? I don't
even know if it would have. But if they would
have left that retirement match as a retirement match for Gunther,

(01:11:12):
So let's say wwe obviously knows he's coming to the
end of his career, Johnsena can still have that promo saying, look,
my time is almost done, like I'm not going to
be here for much longer, but not actually give us dates.
I think the weird thing about the dates kind of hurt,
but that's just it hurt the storyline in my opinion.
But if they did all this and we didn't know

(01:11:33):
the end date, but maybe multiple people, you know, tried
to face John Cena, but Gunther would have been different.
Gun There would have been you know what, I don't
want to wait, I don't want to see how much
longer you can go, it'll be my career versus your
retirement at this match. And then they just did it
that way.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
You know, well even still like going back to the whole,
you know, explaining the heel turn, and I think that
would have added a human layer to his actual retirement,
where like I said, he thinks in his mind, this
is the story that he pokes out.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
I kind of did that on Stephanie's podcast again.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
This don't do it on Stephanie's fucking podcast. It on
Monday Night Raw right right now, Well, guys, it's this
is a w shit, right, Well, you don't understand what's
going on. Did you turn it tune into uh uh?
Who's the guy that does the fucking hey w what's
his name? That guy? Did you tune into his show?

(01:12:32):
That's that's how it makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
No, you're you're right, But w w's been doing that
for a minute now. That's that's their thing, is like,
you gotta gotta tune into Logan Paul's pocket. You gotta
turn into Pat McFee. Got a tune into these places?
Oh did you know Vince McMahon was on Pat mcavee.
What did he say, Well, got a tune in listen.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
If you want to show to make sense, you have
to tune into Logan Paul's podcast. It's like, what fuck you?

Speaker 5 (01:12:54):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Once again, this is the ship that made me years ago,
ship on a w for wherever was. It was like,
this is dumb. This is a dumb way to try
to sell shit to people. And I get it. You're
a billion on the company. They're smart. They're smarter than you.
You gotta know more than you. Okay, well neat, but

(01:13:16):
watch what happens. Let's because I'm pretty good at predicting
these trends. Watch what happens? What up, guys?

Speaker 15 (01:13:25):
So John Cena smiles before he taps out right, and
it did slightly cross my mind of like an Obi
wan Kenobe thing. And then three days later, like a
few days later, he puts up a picture of Obi
Wan Kenobi. But the whole point of Obi Wan Kenobi
dying before Vader slashed him was strike me down and

(01:13:48):
I shall become more powerful than you imagine. And then
he basically became Luke's manager from the dead, right, because
you know the force of shit, But like, who's Who's
John Cena gonna do that? For aj Styles? Before or
he gets took you know what I mean, I don't know.
You tell me, I don't. I don't even I'm not
even sure. And you know what I want to see though,
I am sick of the Rock. I was a big

(01:14:09):
fan and I'm just disappointed. I want to see him
get jumped outside of a fucking save mart or something.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
Dude, I am.

Speaker 15 (01:14:15):
I want Gorilla Nims somebody like him to smack the
shit out of him, him and his whole f fyl crew.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
You know, seriously, man, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Fuck.

Speaker 15 (01:14:26):
I mean, if it's all to take down the Rock,
I'm cool with that, but I don't know who the
fuck he'll manage. I mean, I'll take speed Ball Mike Bailey,
who looks like fucking one two three kid slash Lightning Kid.
At this point, I don't know, and I only say
that we're in AW. He's the only guy who's like
semi watchable, at least for me. But anyway, I went

(01:14:46):
off on a tangent wrestling suit, motherfucker's piece.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
You know, AV actually kind of came up with a
brilliant idea, and unfortunately AW could actually use this. AW
could have John Cena as a manager an a because
like he said, like the death, like he could be
the Obi wan Kenobi. Why couldn't MJF take phone calls
from a guy named John about positions that he could do.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
In hologram Maybe a no, no, just a phone call.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
They could literally have MJF talking to mister Sena every
week or John, you know what I mean. Like you
could even alternate it so you don't break some kind
of trademark copyright law, and uh yeah he could. Technically
MGF could technically be managed by John Cena, even though
obviously not.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
What if MJF says like he got he comes out,
he's like, hey, listen, I am John Cena. Well if
he just becomes him, that would be the bit, that
would be a better idea.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
He starts changing his clothes. MJF is out in jeorts.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
He just does this whole gimmick. It's a shirt in
fucking Gene Schwortz.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
I mean you really could you could do that at
any promotion right now. This idea, if I'm telling you,
that's a brilliant fucking idea, and all he has to do.
And shit, they could even take it one step further
and use fucking AI and have an ai voice of
John Cena.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
What if you just changed your name to John Cena? Sure,
just with an ass and and just do his entire thing, Like,
fuck it? What is he gonna do?

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
Honestly, I think legally there would be some kind of backlash.
I'm talking about actually doing it without legal.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
I'm sorry. He's got the money, it's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Yeah, well that's true too, but John Cena. No, I
think wwe would fight Tony for John Cena copyright law.
That's the step too far, my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
I know I'm just giving. I'm just coming up with
the idea of something new and creative for MJF Yes,
because I mean, he needs it. So aren't you excited
to hear him come back and talk about how he's
rich and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
So excited?

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
That's fucking new, that's fresh. I hope he talks about
how he was in a movie. You know what else
is fresh school? This voicemail from Rob Ruder.

Speaker 5 (01:17:08):
No, I don't know if y'all saw this already, but
I guess John Cena went on Cody's podcast yesterday and
decided to try to explain that whole Yeah, that's me.
I bet you're probably wondering how I got here face
he pulled at the end of the match on Saturday.
The best I could gather between him talking about it
like he was bleeding out on the beach as a

(01:17:29):
Normandy was I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:17:31):
Is this Todd Grishams listening to Kevin Dunn like I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. It just it caught me off guard.
Dear lord. Uh yeah, sorry that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
He saw the scene of character as a guy that
was just staying alive for everybody else said people in
pain always struggled to stick around just long enough to
say goodbye to the people that care about him, and
that him looking at the camera was supposed to be
his last goodbye, as he willingly accepted his fate and
freed himself from the pain of this wretched existence. And man,

(01:18:09):
I bet the make a Wish kids and their families
are gonna love hearing that shit. You fought long enough, kid,
just let go. I mean, some bitch. If that was
the last message he was playing in the send, you
might as well have booked this ship as a cancer on.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Pull match or something. Let me stop.

Speaker 5 (01:18:27):
No, just seeing the tough souper tough here go, motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
I just love the idea of living life with that
voice and everything you do. You just at the grocery
store and you just do you guys have any more
of those spurnt cheese? Its what colors? You're delicious? What
colors your panties? You can?

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
I can? I see them?

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
I'll take three jelly donuts please. Yeah, dude, But Sina
going through this whole, Like I said, it's him doing
the whole. This is what I think I did. It's like, well,
very nice of you to now as hell? Is that
on Cody Rhodes's podcast after it happened, Like it's not

(01:19:16):
an art film where we're all supposed to watch it
afterwards and then sit around in a circle and go
what did that make you feel? What did you think
about that? It was like, well, playing the footage of
a dying flower really fast, it was like she's talking
about the futility of life, you know what I mean.

(01:19:37):
But then when you rewound it and the flowers petals
went back on to the flower, It's like, but we
always have a chance to try again. Man, It's like, no,
it's wrestling. You're wearing jorts, you're selling arm bands, and
you're for babies. So if you don't want it to
be for babies, then tell that story on the show
instead of once again, two weeks after on Code he

(01:20:00):
rode his bus. Right is that so much to ask
that real?

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
It's nit picky, but that that goes into you know,
hindsight is twenty twenty. I think there's a lot of things,
and I think me and you have covered a lot
of them, you know. And I saw people that like
like minded podcasts that thought that Johnsena's retirement was perfect,
everything about it was perfect, and that people are just
whining to whine, And it's like, I just feel like

(01:20:29):
this acceptance of mediocrity for wanting this for somebody who's
been the cornerstone of this program that you've been watching
for well at least twenty years, Right, you would explain better,
You'd expect better, Yeah, from a guy that's literally been
your hero for twenty years.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
So, and like I said, there's not a lot of
people they had the opportunity to do this with. Nobody
had a better thought in their head on how to
do this.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
Well, I'm worried about guys like aj Styles and Randy
Orton and Shamus. I'm worried about guys like brock lesnar.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
Like, I'm not even thinking they're gonna get fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
That's what I'm saying is if this is the best, right,
this is the best that they have and that they're
going to do for someone, what are they gonna give
Randy Orton a pack of smokes and a pat on
the ass?

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
Like he retires in Saudi Arabia? Probably?

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
Oh, probably he's already there right now, so why not?

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
Yeah, he's fuck Could you imagine that if they fucking
retire Randy Orton in Saudi Arabia? How funny that would be?
Like not even in the way of like me saying
that's funny, like how bad? It would just be funny
because Randy Orton's always been such a fucking shit heel
that that would be the most perfect way for him

(01:21:50):
to do it. I don't think he's gonna here.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
I honestly don't think fans would be more outraged for
Randy Orton than Randy Orton would. Randy Orton doesn't strike
me as a guy what off a ducks back kind
of deal? He just yeah, whatever, Saudi Arabia, I don't
care pay me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Randy Orton is the guy that you could see like
everybody in in the airport is in line and pissed
off to like can you believe this delay? And he's like,
what am I gonna do?

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
Am I gonna fix the plane? Like you just see
him having that type of attitude to it where he's
just like fuck whatever, right, whatever, man.

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
Which is a great attitude in a lot of ways
because it's like a lot less stress, you know, but
I can see I can see a lot of people
being upset and AJ Styles too. AJ Styles is a
real interesting one because he's another guy that should have
as much fanfare, maybe maybe as much as John Cena.
I mean, the guy goes all the way back to

(01:22:50):
fucking w c W. Like that's a crazy thought in itself.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
If you take into account the AJ's styles at this
point is like basically, and I could be wrong, Somebody
tell me if I'm wrong here, but the longest active
performer in professional wrestling that's on television, like in ring,
you know, wouldn't it be him at this point? Who
else is even on that level?

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Ray?

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
Oh? Good?

Speaker 5 (01:23:21):
Ray?

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
Yeah? Yeah, but Ray's not even as active as AJ was.

Speaker 3 (01:23:24):
No, no, you're yeah, but Ray is still for some
reason's still out there truck of a log, you know,
once at least once a month.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
You know, it's right Ray at this point. Sometimes I
see him do things and it's like when you see
the grandparent that obviously is being asked way too much
to do for like the grandkids. You know, there's like
pushing the double stroller at the park.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
Then the kids have twelve bags, you know, like it's
like you're like, please help me.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
All these diaper bags are very heavy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
Brings up Jericho too, and he's he's on his way
back soon.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Wait who else? Oh Jericho? Yeah, Jared.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
Too many w c W guys left, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
I'm just waiting for lash LaRue ship. Where's lash LaRue?
Maybe he should retire Chris Jack and no one could
bitch who you saying?

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
Bunk house Brown?

Speaker 2 (01:24:29):
Yeah, oh I'm chilly Willy. Chili Willy is also an option.
He could always be there.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
What's Maybe Boy doing? Shark Boy doing everything?

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Well, he was doing something with a little Wayne shark
pussy thing, right, wasn't that we were talking about yesterday?
Was it Deep Blue or something like that? Ocean spry
So the whale shoots from its back. It's gross by

(01:25:00):
you know it. Get the crowd is into it. The interacting. Interacting.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
We got h Stephen Flow episode up with white Chocolate,
Don Reynolds. Check that out.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
Oh I thought he left a voicemail for a second
Eddie Vedder. Imagine if that was like it. We had
the truck voice and then we had Eddie Vedder voice
following it. Let's see wors I'm sorry, don't call me Sina.
The preictures cripped were murm me, he's alive too, Eddie Vedder. Yeah,

(01:25:42):
that's fucking crazy. They're all dead, not so much, you know,
but hey, no, they all fucking died. Vetter is the
only one still doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
No, you got tom Yorke still around. You got fucking
Trent Reznor somehow.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
No, No, I mean the grunge, the grunge specific guys,
know the specific you know Seattle sound dudes. Well, whether
a guy from the Melvins or something, but I'm not
counting that level of Melvin's remember the Melvins.

Speaker 7 (01:26:12):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
We also got Jeff Lepman show. I'm sorry, Garden of Thought.
Sure check out those episodes. What else we got We
don't have much? No fucking pay per views. This weekend, right,
I know next two weeks NXT is pre taped, so
there you go for that. That's spoilers are well good.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
If they fuck up a finish, they can just edit it.
Why not. Why not? By the way, I think they
should keep the belt on that thea girl because fucking
fuck that girl for not kicking out. Yeah, honestly, I mean,
I know we're getting out of here, but like I
really think at this point, like, yeah, I know, you
don't just get the belt back next week, you fucking dumbass.

(01:26:52):
You don't kick out, That's.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
What's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
I know, but they shouldn't. They should just let her
have it. That girl's over. It's not like people, it's
not like she completely sucks and everybody hates her. Give her,
give her a couple of months. It's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:27:05):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
I am Frank, he is Gus manor her. Have a
good night the merry chrimbas. You fucking