CROWN OF PERTH POST SHOW (Wrestling Soup 10.11.25)

0:25 — Official show intro: "Wrestling Soup" with Anthony Thomas and Joey Numbers.
0:50 — Banter about the "Crown Jewel Post Show" and some lighthearted police siren jokes.
Roman Reigns & Bronson Reed Match
1:30 — Discussion about the opening match: Roman Reigns vs. Bronson Reed.
3:20 — Anthony and Joe debate the match’s pacing, outcome, and the ongoing Bloodline storyline.
7:00 — Reflections on the "Australian Street Fight" and how it compares to other street fights.
10:00 — Commentary on the house show feel of the event and the crowd’s reaction.
Women’s Crown Jewel Championship
14:50 — Transition to the women’s match: Tiffany Stratton vs. Stephanie.
15:50 — Analysis of the match, both hosts noting Tiffany’s regression and Stephanie’s role as the aggressor.
18:00 — Discussion about Triple H’s involvement and the awkwardness of the post-match celebration.
Audience & WWE Creative
20:00 — Commentary on WWE’s creative direction, Triple H’s TED talk, and the challenges of keeping the product fresh.
22:00 — Banter about Seth Rollins, Becky Lynch, and the need for stronger storylines and character development.
John Cena vs. AJ Styles
27:00 — Recap of the John Cena vs. AJ Styles match, comparing it to a "greatest hits" performance.
30:00 — Reflections on the significance of AJ Styles’ and John Cena’s careers, especially for Australian fans.
33:00 — Discussion of the match’s many finishers and the crowd’s reaction.
Women’s Tag Team Match
38:00 — Analysis of the women’s tag match: EO Sky & Rhea Ripley vs. Asuka & Kairi Sane.
41:00 — Thoughts on the end of the Kabuki Warriors feud and the future direction for the women’s division.
Main Event: Seth Rollins vs. Cody Rhodes
44:50 — Main event discussion: Seth Rollins vs. Cody Rhodes.
47:00 — Critique of the match’s length, pacing, and outcome, with both hosts feeling the wrong person won.
50:00 — Reflections on the lack of crowd energy and the need for Becky Lynch at ringside.
Closing Thoughts
55:00 — Final thoughts on the event, best and worst matches, and the overall direction of WWE.
58:20 — Outro: Thanks to listeners, Patreon plug, and sign-off.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Wrestling soup for a mature audience.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I don't develop it sucks like I feel like so
much of this show was actually pretty good, right, I
just don't care about the Saudi uh ass kissing. I
don't care about the existence of seth rawlins at this point, right,

(00:28):
it's exhaust That's the only part of this I don't.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Like wrestling soup. I am Anthony Thomas, and he is
your excellency Joey Numbers.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
That's right, the true Crown Prince. I guess of whatever
WWE is.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
I don't even know that.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
This is the Crown Jewel post show and they're coming
to take me away.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Haha. Is that it?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah? Oh man, Crown Crown Perth is what it is. Oh,
thank you guys. I appreciat the police back up for
this fucking abomination.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Get it right, get it right, get it tight, get
it right, get it right, get it tight. That's that
Paul Wall song. They do that whole police iron over it.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah. Oh of course, yeah, yeah, sure, A big Paul
Wall fan. Right. Oh there's more coming too. Oh that's great.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Hey, I found you miss New.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Ten thirty in Chicago. I live in the safest neighborhood
in Chicago, by the way, So that's a good sign.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, I'll tell you who wasn't safe from nonsense today
was you and I that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Well, yeah, it's it's as good as you expected it
to be. I know we were saying, or you opened
it up by saying you enjoyed the first half of
the show, and God bless you for that, Joe, because
I I maybe I'm just cranky in the morning. I
don't know, getting up at five thirty in the morning
to make coffee and Doodoo's and and try to make

(01:55):
some kind of semblance of breakfast grooons. Ah, didn't really
put me in the mindset for wrestling. Just really didn't.
I think I was cranky right off the bat. And
I mean obviously Perth seemed very excited to see Roman
Reins out there and Bronson Reed just start off the show.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Well yeah, I mean you didn't enjoy the whole thing
with Bronson, I really didn't.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
I mean it did end up being exactly what we
were predicting on Thursday. It was going to be Bronson
Reid going over because of a bunch of fucklery, and
that's what it was. I mean, it made sense. I
like Bronson Reid winning. I guess in that scenario, I
think I'm just tired of this. Jay is now all
of a sudden a heel and we really don't know why.

(02:38):
I think that being the focal point of this took
away a little bit of shine off of Bronson Reid, right,
And I know that they did the whole you're the
you're the tribal thief, but you beat the tribal chief,
and I'm like, ah, walk a lot, Yeah, got it. Thanks,
you know, I.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Mean, I I've said it before and I will continue
to go with this. I am in annoying Bronson Reid
in the role of big boss man.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Sure, I like it.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
I like him with the manager alongside him, and he's
just a big guy that puffs out his chest and goes, oh,
you'll never beat me, clown like no.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I like that part of him. I like the fact that,
you know, they they reference or they've got to reference
broun Stroman the other day Paul Hayman had to send
out a heartfelt apology online for him. But I like
the idea of Bronson Reid being this big heater guy
and obviously bron Breaker being the guy that we're all
looking forward to developing wings. But for right now, for

(03:41):
what this is, he feels like a consultation brock, a
secondary prize, an aspirin. He feels like an aspirin. It's just.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
That's a good role for him though. I mean, like
I said, he's a big boss man. He's not gonna
really win the big one, but he's good to get
some good big wins, whether it's you know, clean or
not clean, and get some heat on the big top
baby faces and then have some decent matches. Like I
don't see him ever becoming championship material. Yeah, he's in

(04:17):
the mix, you know, yeah in New Japan, making you know,
shit money and stuff like that. It's a good it's
a good spot for him. He's a good journeyman, big
man heel, you know.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
I guess I don't know, Like I said, I just
I didn't feel this match, that's all. It was just
it relied on tropes and I was expecting I don't
know what I was expecting. I was expecting more of
a beatdown from Bronze and Reid, but it felt like
it was just going through the numbers.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
In the twenty minute intro where everybody has to chant
for Roman really fucking helps sell it for me, you know.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, well I will say I thought it was a positive.
I felt like having Roman in the ring before twenty
minutes into the show though, that that to move up.
That is a step up, because usually it's the six
minute long intro with can you believe how much money
we got to be here? Hey? Can you believe? We

(05:16):
are a big pay per view? And then if you
have Roman open, which that's the new spot for him.
He's got the Brock spot apparently where it's then Roman's
coming out for fifteen minutes and we're going, holy shit,
We're almost half an hour into the show and absolutely
nothing has happened.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Hey, can you can you explain some things to me?
Because maybe I missed it? You know in my novice brain,
what was the difference between the Australian street fight and
every other street fight?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I think the toilet water goes the other direction, isn't
it all?

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Isn't that the difference? I don't know. So this is
where like I was thinking.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
The big clockwise, Yeah, well I.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Was taking the big boss mean thing. I'm like, he
should come out swinging a Digiti due, you know, like anything.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
They should have done anything to separate this from every
other street fight. I think the only thing that really
separated was Roman Reigns asking the crowd their permission to
use tables. I thought that was a nice touch, because
apparently in Australia you can't use a table unless you
ask first.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, at least we're attempting in this moment for Roman
to start showing personality. But this, dude, we're watching eight
AM house shows. That's the feeling here.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
House shows started at six o'clock for me with that
pre show nonsense, and I watched most of it thinking, okay, look,
we just had a quote unquote god debut at SmackDown
and we had like all these these things happening on Smackdow.
I'm like, okay, maybe they're going to have something interesting
for the pre show. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope,

(06:47):
just a lot of recaps.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, well then they'd have to fly. They'd have to
fly them all. I know they're already there. Oh you're right,
maybe that's a point. No, man, this was, like I said,
it's a how show where you get some good, you know,
some good to decent matches right with some fanfare and
what it's going to be. I'm sure they're well aware

(07:10):
of the fact that only like some of us fucking
psychos are waking up at this hour to watch this shit.
They know everybody's going to be watching it this afternoon tomorrow,
maybe even Monday before raw, So that's how they're treating it.
But I mean, I guess the people that paid thousands
of dollars to be there, though, they were happy, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Oh yeah, no, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
They were happy hour three.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
I think that's the motif of this entire show. It
really was a house show for Australia. That's really what
it came off as. It didn't really come off as
anything special. It wasn't a pl that really moved anything along,
you know. For what it was, it was just, hey,
here's an extra show this week, and that's what Crown
Jewel was.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
I didn't honestly though, I mean, I don't want to
keep beating this over the head, this opener, because it's
a it's a real match with a bunch of run
ins in fuckery. But like I enjoyed this for what
it was and what it is, well is what we
expect out of Roman.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Now, you know, well do we where do we go?
You know, you're talking about the Roman side of it,
but you're missing the Uso side of it. Now we
have Jay kicking or fucking taking out Roman reigns and
Romans pissed off and says that everybody already thinks that
I can't do shit by myself. Like what happens from here?
Are we going to set up something between Roman and

(08:30):
Jay in the ring?

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Like?

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Where are we going with this?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah? That I'm not interested in that that is.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
But that was the whole point of this match, because
I don't think it excelled Bronson in any way. I
think it was more to excel the storyline. And so
where are we going with the storyline? Bloodline three?

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I hate to say it, man, but I kind of
feel it in my bones, and it's not a good thing,
but I could see it as a possibility. Jay Uso
joins up with the Vision thing, and I know it
seems crazy because you know, he's just selling the shirts
and he's doing his little hand dance and it's the
most you know, over important thing. But maybe that's the

(09:08):
direction for this because Jay's kind of rudderless outside of
an entrance with diminishing returns, which we've you know, started
to notice if you're watching these shows and like you said,
just the random will they won't they? Is he a
fucking heel? Which, by the way, also like is Roman
a fucking heel? Because him saying you know, do or
to go cook duboboself or whatever the fuck it is,

(09:31):
It's like, yeah, you just so you want to get
beat up by fucking three guys that didn't make any sense,
something kind of story.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
A Fighter one game overscreen. That's I mean, I swear
to god, Roman Reigns talks with marbles in his mouth
half the time.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Well, it's because he got those big fucking honkin vinears
that are incredibly weird looking. Everybody forgets normal teeth. Roman,
go look up normal tooth at Roman. It wasn't like
it was that bad like I think, I think in
his mind he thought he looks like a fucking crazy
math head or something where he was just like, oh,

(10:04):
I got to catch some movie star teeth, and now
instead he just looks kind of fucking odd if you
catch him at the right time, at the right angle.
But yeah, this was.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Always willing to eat a carrot for everybody.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
So Hannah, he got he got him in, and he
was just like, I can have taffy again. Remember like
the commercials where they would be selling fucking uh what's
it called the denturous the old people. They'd be like,
I can enjoy gummies or something whatever the fuck, whatever.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
The benament or whatever the fuck it was.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, yeah, and my chewing tobacco again, Like you're just
happy for I've really missed out on pebbles delicious. It's
just it's terrible that I've been, you know, lacking pebbles
in my diet. But yeah, no, Like, I'm not particularly
invested in what's going on with Jay. So if they're

(10:58):
not planning on turning him heel and they're just trying
to make him into like a tough guy, which nobody's
really buying, then we're right back almost to the set
situation where he's coming out to you know, the fucking
macarena and everybody used to do his dance. But also
is he a kind like we can't tell, so so.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Let me do him another thing about the match too,
because you're saying is a fine match. One of the
things that really bothered me was the pacing. Everything felt segmented.
Let's do a spot here and then take him minute break.
Let's do something here and then take him minute break.
Like everything felt like acts of a play.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Well, don't you remember, don't you remember that's tough guy paced, buddy?

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Is that what that is? It's speed? Yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
The fucking fucking Broman said that to Jay, you got
a tough guy pacing, And I just remember laughing by
ass off of that because I'm like, you mean dragging
everything out?

Speaker 1 (11:58):
God, it was, and that's the thing. It was. Bronson
goes pretty hard, pretty fast. I mean, people forget his matches,
even with guys like Adam cole Man. Man, the guy
can move quick for his size. So it's weird seeing
him take all these breaks with Roman reigns before they
do another anything. You know, it was just everything was segmented.

(12:20):
It was it was a little line.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, I'm fine with Bronson reed being a big honk
and yield at like guys on the ropes and he
jumps on his back and gives him a fucking back. Right,
I'm fine with all that big man shit, but like
you're right, to some extent, they do obviously need to
move it along a little bit. And you know me,
I'm not sitting there saying everything needs to be Luca
Leebre extreme one hundred miles an hour. But it also

(12:46):
doesn't have to be like Bob Beckland making Breakfast, Like
can we this.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Opener twenty one minutes without the intros, without the song
and dance of Roman reigns? It was twenty one minutes
in the ring.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah, it's still a little still, a little much. I mean,
I am glad to some extento. And I know what happened,
like First and Fast where you do these street fights
and they're like, all right, we at least they're feinting
going into the crowd and ship because that's my mindset.
If you're gonna bother having that type of match, yes,
but it all happens in the ring anyway. So it's like,
so what's the point of calling it a street fight?

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Right?

Speaker 2 (13:22):
You know? Like but whatever, man, it was, it was.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
I missed the days when they would actually go out
to the street. I miss the days when they would
roam around the Rosemont Horizon parking lot throwing shit at
each other, Like.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Well, they can't do that anymore.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Man in Australia, Like, I can understand in the US,
everybody's so happy, but you're telling me in Australia you
can't do that either.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Well, they're probably afraid that they can't control every single
little element of it to some degree, which is which
is a shame. But yeah, I don't know. This was
this was okay, this was fine.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Well we go on from there to the to the
to the Female Crown Jewel Championship the Ladies.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
The quick and painless fucking reminder of right of the
fact that Tiffany Stratton is not living up to her
potential at this moment.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
And keep in mind, neither at Cores or Tiffany Stratton's
actual titles are on the line. But it's just this
new shiny trophy belt that nobody will ever defend.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
That you won't see again for another year.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
And it's basically an exhibition match for shiny prop they're
fighting for pride though. That was one of the things
that they kept saying. It's just a photo op. That's
what the whole thing was for. It was just a
photo opportunity.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Man. Well, I don't know. I mean I made sure
to ask Mad Max. I said, how do you say
carry the white girl and Espanol, because that's what it's
going to be for this whole thing.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, Tiffany had a couple of good spots, but yeah,
for the most part, you can tell she's degressed. We
talked about that a little bit on Thursday too. You know,
as far as what she's doing in and especially with
how she connects to the audience, she hasn't grown. She
hasn't grown at all. And if anything, it feels like
she's kind of going backwards and not in a good way,
like trying to rediscover your roots. It's almost like she's

(15:11):
forgetting what made her good to begin with.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Yeah, you can see it in her face too, Like
even when she was coming out and she came out,
she got on the ropes like she did the whole thing,
like facing the hardcam, and if you just look at
her face, you can kind of see the oh shit,
oh shit, oh shit, oh shit. You can you can
read it on her, you know. And it's funny because
I say this, and I'm sure there's people that remember

(15:35):
going back to Mania where I talked about, you know,
the whole thing that happened with Charlott, where I said,
you need to get her off television. You need to
put her at NXT again. Yeah, and I was called,
you know, fucking Satan Hitler. But now as time goes on,
you're seeing it, you're seeing how this plays out, and
it's like, if they'd have sent her back or its
found a way to get her, you know, jumped out,

(15:57):
fake injured, taking the title off, and sent her back,
maybe by now another six months of you know, training
hard and actually like training with Natty or whomever down there,
we'd be telling a different story. But instead they just
kept trucking along with this like wounded fucking animal. Like
there's just like someone that's injured or you know, just mentally,

(16:17):
I guess to some extent you're like, no, no, just
keep doing it, just keep doing it right, Well, that's
what you fucking get man, Like, I don't know, that's
how I feel like that that match injured her pride.
I guess you will call it or like you said,
or I don't know, her confidence, and they just didn't
deal with it. They just said, oh, well, soldier on.

(16:38):
And that's why you get this.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I think, Well there was a point, right, So the matches,
the match itself started off a little bit rocky. That
wasn't until Tiffany went for the handshake and Stephanie just
kind of fucking kept her in the face or whatever
that it started to ramp up a little bit. I
kind of enjoyed the energy there because Stephanie became the aggressor,
you know, and both of it felt like Tiffany in

(17:01):
this match should have been playing the role of Stephanie
and Stephanie should have been the one on defense more.
But no, Stephanie picked up the role of aggression, and
I think that's when the match is the match itself
started to get a lot better.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Well do you know why, miss, because that's who leads
the match to heel typically leads the match, right, So.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
But she's got a heel. Stephanie's not a heel. But
she wasn't really leaning into that babyface role in this
match either.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
But she yeah, I know she was, but that was it,
like they knew that she had to kind of take
that role to control the pacing of the match and
to just sort of like to come to calm her down.
Let's call it that way, because if you leave Tiffany
Stratton standing and have her attempt to call the match
she's gonna be playing with her hair and doing happy

(17:48):
feet because that she's regressed, she'll be back to where
she was. Whereas, if you know, she gets a little
bit lost, Tiffany, that is, Stephanie will fucking club her
in the back stand tall, look around for a seconnup,
you know, take a couple of deep breaths, look down
at her, and be like, all right, we're going on
the next fucking thing. We're okay.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Well, Becker hits the Corkscrew Moon sal to get the win,
and he's the second man, the second ever Crown Jewels
Champion for whatever that means, over Live because Live wasn't
here to defend it, I guess. And yeah, it gets
the It gets the corporate stamp of approval, and then
Papa H comes out there to to get all awkward

(18:26):
with Stephanie in the ring.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
To get a late stage Biden and smell her hand.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Shit. Yeah, like I mean, Triple H is either becoming
really creepy or he believes in these matches so much
and he wants people to believe that these matches are
so much more valuable than they are. I don't know
what it is. I really don't like it. I mean, look,
I understand if he's being creepy for Stephanie. A lot

(18:50):
of people and even in our chat, would be creepy
for Stephanie.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
I don't understand why did you? Why are you sexualized?

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah? I would, I'll dare you.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Weird, what kind of weird guy would say it would
sexualize the gorgeous Spanish model with ninety eight percent of
her ass hanging out.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
I'm not sexualizing this woman. I'm cupping the cheeks of
a champion. Yes, I'm grabbing victory with two hairs, giving
it a shake.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
No, I mean it is a little fucking weird. The
Triple H thing. I mean, I'm obviously kind of playing
up to. I think he's just just a guy in
his fifties that's kind of just like a leaning into
whatever this role is. I feel like I'm the more
I'm seeing Triple H two, the more sad I'm starting
to the vibe I'm picking up on him. His sadness.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's kind of a given because
I think he really is overall trying his best with
creative and stuff. Dude, I don't know if you saw
that Ted talk that he did yet, but I know,
we talked a little bit about that the other day too. Yeah,
but his Ted talk, it felt like it was a

(20:06):
way that he was trying to validate himself amongst people
that he would consider peers, and not wrestling peers, but
corporate peers. And it was just so outside the box
because he was cutting jokes and stuff. He was trying
to be a lovable guy, but it was just odd
that he's trying to convince people that hey, yeah, wrestling

(20:29):
is relevant in twenty twenty five, and it's like, ah,
it's for your fan base, but I don't think that
most people give a shit unless they're sponsors. But I digress.
That's why I'm saying, is I kind of agree with you.
Maybe it's not sadness, but maybe it is a coming
to terms with what his role is in wrestling and

(20:50):
being the big guy out there as the main event
of WrestleMania is not in his future ever.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Again, well, I think even you know, outside of the
factor that it is insanely attractive sexy woman that he's
doing us for, maybe he just needs the hug.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Maybe he's maybe he needs the hug more than seven Yeah, Yeah,
I mean, definitely, dude, there was some point there where
she had her head turned kind of like looking away,
like all right, dude, break the hold, right.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
He's just like, well, no, I haven't watched this Ted talk.
Now I'm inclined to do that. Yeah, maybe I'll listen
to that while I'm waiting for my fucking oil change
and all that good stuff. But like, maybe that is
where he is in life, right. You start out in
an industry in your twenties, you go through it, you
think your whole like, I'm a wrestler, Okay, I'm a wrestler, wrestler, Okay,

(21:41):
Now I'm a businessman. I'm a businessman, businessman. And now
he's at a point where he's like, well, not a
wrestler wrestler. Am I really a businessman? Businessman? I don't
even know. So he's like I could see where you
were questioned yourself as him, And especially when you get
to be a person that age, the kids will start
to grow up. You've completely removed yourself in some respects

(22:03):
from the ability to do what you've done most of
your life, you know, And it's like, well, I guess
I can be a coach, Like is that what he
has left? Kind of but I don't know, it's it
seems like really beaten on Triple H.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Well, you know what, Look, I got to be fair though, too,
and I feel I feel it's a little unfair to
Seth Rollins that he too didn't get his cheeks cupped
by Triple H.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Well, no, they do that backstage. Okay, Well that's what
happens when he crawls deep inside of Triple H's asshole.
And uh and vice versa too.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Where Seth's hug and kiss where was petting Seth's hair?

Speaker 2 (22:41):
And by the way, and by the way, before you
guys get all thinking I'm saying it in some sort
of romantic way, No, it's strictly ego driven for both
of them. Sure, it's strictly like telling each other how
good they are. Uh yeah, No, I mean it was
what it was. It was fine. Like I said, Stephanie
just had to carry the whole fucking thing. And it
was a real stern kind of reminder to probably old

(23:05):
Tiffany and to us that the faith in her is
not there anymore. And I think that's probably a good call.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Let's hit up Blazing Bolts, who was pretty much supporting
the show while we're yeah, there, Yeah, I saw it.
Blazing Bolts, says Joey's impersonation of Seth Rollins is hilarious.
Can you build a skyscraper for your excellency since he
is in architects?

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Well, I mean I got to just give him enough money? Clearly,
good old blaze. I mean, what am I going to
do in that situation? Clearly? Ww Everything is for sale
at this point. I mean, from from comedians to pro
wrestlers to EA Sports to Idaho, Everything's for sale. Who
fucking new? I guess, I guess I do now to.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Bucks, says Jay Usso is a witch pussy, right, Joey
speech pussy?

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yes, but he's trying to be a tough guy now,
at least they're trying. You know.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
It's whatever the hell that is. But says Becky Lynch,
is the doll from the seat of Chucky. Oh, we'll
get to some Becky talk.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Because I can make fun of Becky, you know, quite
easily as I can make fun of anybody. It's just
a habit of mine or a trade I have. But
I'm starting to think more and more you need her
asset ringsight for these Seth matches, because otherwise it's this bullshit.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
You know, it's weird that she's more in demand than
Paul Hayman. Paul Hayman doesn't add to Seth's character as
much as Becky does. But yeah, well we'll talk about
the main event in few Blazing also says WWE's product
is mediocre and boring. It's not worth paying for a
product that insults your intelligence and treats you like a kid.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
This is the all right, I don't even know at
this point if these matches. Like I said, I didn't
think the opener was bad. Obviously we'll get to the
actual main event of the show, which was not the
main event. But the shit on it that's good is good,
and what's on it that is obviously, like the Saudi
corporate sponsorship nonsense. You just to have to take with

(25:01):
the grain of salt, I guess. But it's really getting
to the point where it's like seventy thirty, and then
sometimes it's like twenty ten. I'm not twenty ten, I'm sorry,
like eighty twenty, where you're going like, all right, well
that was pretty good, and then you're like, oh, most
of it was dog shit, Like you really kind of
got to take.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Your lumps with your uh good stuff, and he finishes
off his financial run here with Cody Rhodes is boring
and should be the new host of Blues Clues.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Jay Usso also should be the new Chucky Cheese mascot.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Well, once again, we'll get to Cody Rose in the situation.
I can't imagine. I can't imagine what we're gonna do
with Cody going forward unless we start making some real
fucking heels like Russev's gotta hurry up. They got to
bring back Lana. They gotta find some actual, real fucking
heels that can get heat and beat his ass up

(25:55):
and make it look like something, because this shit with
Seth where they're like huchin like it sucks. It sucks.
It's not good.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, No, for sure. That match went on for ten
minutes and five seconds. It felt like a lot longer,
but that's all it was. Once again without intros. Next
match we have is probably the whole reason that everybody
was wearing yellow out there. Either they were advertising Subway.
We had John Cena versus AJ Styles.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yeah, this was like, and I guess it's a morbid comparison,
but it's a recent one. This is like when you
watch footage from Ossie's last show right where you're sitting there,
You're just going they're playing the hits and everybody's getting
the vibes and getting the good feels from it, you know, right,
that was the point. Now, I can only imagine what

(26:47):
all of the people that are in and around in
surrounding wrestling are going to say over the next week
about this. I assume that your melter types and those
guys of that ILK are gonna be like, well, I guess,
I guess we just do finishers. I guess I guess
that's all it is. It's he'd be like, well, I mean,

(27:08):
maybe it's time to look in the mirror on that one, Dave.
But sure, I think I don't know that's what's going
to be talked about.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Obviously, you know the big spots in the moment, Well,
here everything that happened in the match was Sena first
hitting Missus skull crushing finale, AJ hit the sting Scorpion
death drop. Sena used Russev's Accolade styles, used a Coquina clutch.
Sena used the Walls of Jericho and the Sister Abigail styles,

(27:37):
used Daniels's angel Wings, Sena hit an r KO and
the rope DDT. Styles used Sena's AA against Them, Styles
used Frankie Kazarians, fade to black, Sena used Caine's choke slam.
Styles hit the Sweet Chin music, and then Sena hit
a tombstone like it's it's Somebody's.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
No One, Rode relaxed, Yeah, oh no day like every
every guy's greatest say, yeah, man, this is like once
again to get to get morbid with it.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
To some extent, this is celebrating the end of these
two guys' careers.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I mean, and let's also be honest too, They're not
gonna see AJ or John Cena ever again. AJ's careers
right around the corner too. And I think unfortunately, even
though we said that, I think people forget it because
John Cena's retirement is a very big deal. But isn't
AJ styles retiring kind of a big deal too?

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, twenty twenty six, And that's and to some extent,
I mean, if you want to get this level of smarkiness,
AJ is that kind of smart fans guy him and
him and Punk him and Punk. I mean Punk had
the longer run initially than you know, in kind of
pissed off and then came back. But like, those guys

(29:02):
are of a certain generation that are from the Indie
smart fan tna kind of a little bit underground, if
you want to even call it that anymore, to where
if you're that fan, like you and I have had
this conversation. God knows how many times, Sammy Zan, you
know El Generico, those guys, they're all of a generation

(29:24):
Paul London, Like if you were watching the Indies at
that time, those dudes all kind of mean something different
to you. So when their careers are ending, it's going
to be a lot of like forty five year old
man tears because it's like the realization where it's like,
for like a basketball player, Kobe retires, Lebron is done.
Like those are kind of our guys, those people that

(29:46):
we remember. But yeah, you're right. For the Australian fans,
they're never going to see either of these guys wrestle again.
From the sounds of it, fans in Australia would not
be too pumped to come to the States aja have
a last match.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
They're oh no, they loved us, they loved us. I saw.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Dude, I'm sorry, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Guess you didn't really talk about that was the opening
national anthem where I felt who was that? Was that
a dollar or something like that?

Speaker 2 (30:13):
It was it was some Australian girl with like some
cigarette for them, which, by the way, having her do
that to begin with, I was like, it's kind of
a it's kind of a choice.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
You know, well they've been doing down in Mexico too,
But yeah, it's also just it's it's bait at this point,
isn't it, Like aren't you kind of baiting the crowd
for a reaction. Yeah, but it's weird when you you know,
you have Linda McMahon that still kind of leans that way,
and and Trump is a big fan of the w WE,

(30:43):
So it's it's weird if you're baiting them knowing that
you're on the same side as the people that they're
upset about.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
I'm very mad about Australia. Well would they boom me? Yeah, dude,
I give you some guesses. Uh yeah, I don't know.
That was fucking hilarious because I'm like, once again, like
I said, yeah, sure they have these relations, and you
got Linda and Trump and Triple H and Stephanie sitting
there and talking about kids eating vegetables or some shit.

(31:11):
I don't know, but they have to know at this
point that they're gonna get reactions like that, right, right,
They gotta fucking know that, right, Like did they think
they were going to go to Australia and people would
be like, Man, we fucking love we love the United States.
It's our favorite place. It's like people in America don't
even fucking fuck with that, you know what I mean? Like,

(31:34):
I don't know, it's weird.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
The match went on for twenty seven minutes ten seconds,
and I really think that they gave the crowd everything
that they paid for. I remember it was a few
weeks back that we actually heard that some people were
paying like four thousand dollars for tickets to this thing. Yeah,
wh yeah, I mean it's it's a lot.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
But also like this match and everything that happened, and
when it was over, I completely forgot the women's tag
match was happening, and I was like, good luck to
Cody and uh and Seth after that, and I was like,
oh no, there's actually another match, Judas, Oh Jesus Christ,
what are they doing to these what are they doing
to these people? They're really setting them up to fail, and.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
I did almost forget that. The crowd was chanting for
a six one nine and John Cena was going for us.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
That was great. That was actually really good. I will
say if all of the stolen finishers, I guess, if
you want to call it, that that occurred in this
match scene it looked good hitting that fucking sister Abigail.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Oh yeah a moment. Yeah, and everybody whipped out their
phones afterwards they did the firefly out in the audience.
It was kind of nice. It was a nice little
connection there.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yeah, I mean, I know AJ's taking the bump for you,
but you know, seen it looks good on his part
of that. I was like, oh, that looked cool. That Yeah,
it was smooth. That was very smooth. But this was
a good match. This was a fun match, still a
house show kind of deal. What I like, this is
your average you know, what's her name?

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Fucking fucking pokemon hair came out and you know, and
gave them great intros. I mean, she called Aj Styles
the leader of the Bullet Club and made references to
being mister total NonStop action. I was like, oh, that's
kind of nice, nice little nod to the Man's career too.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
And Angelica Pickles Doll for the drug Rats. Right, dude,
somebody's got to just And this is where once again
I said, Triple H has gotta be like just in
full dad mode. Broken man. I don't know what the
fuck he's doing with himself. Bruce Pritchard's sitting in the
back trying to make abyss like sexually harassing him. I
guess I don't know what he's doing. But like how
somebody doesn't look at her and find a way too

(33:40):
politely say this show is not about you put on
a fucking regular ass outfit and change whatever the fuck
you're doing with your hair. Like how someone doesn't say
that to her is crazy to me. And by the way,
I hate that when anybody does that. Shit, what was it?
Who's the fucking weird pencil neck guy that does the
big black wow? That guy, I mean, at least he's

(34:06):
technically a wrestler. Know who is the other announcer that
does the fucking shiny jacket and the looking like a
lounge singer with the blonde.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Oh yeah, I was gonna say.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
I don't remember the guy's name. It's not justin New
We're guy new We're kid. I don't know, but either way,
it looks like, dude, it's not about you the show.
You're not a part of the show on that level.
Put on a fucking suit jacket, put on a nice dress,
like for all we could make fun of Samantha's you.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Know hell, you know, would you rather have Lily and
Garcia back?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
If the alternative is we're trying to make a fucking
scene of ourselves?

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Microme, Yeah, Microme, Like thank you, goober. Uh No, Like
I'm just saying like that's to me, Like, I'm like,
you're trying to make a spectacle yourself. You're the fucking
ring announcer. Kind of out cut it.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Out and they're supposed to be flashy for that two
point two seconds that they're on screen, though, and then give.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Not to that that agree And I will also I
also have to say this too about the match, and
I noticed this is how I knew that they were
taking it seriously. My boy Ryan Tran was the ref
So how you know they put some spect on that
match because he's the best referee that him and Paul Turner.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
You didn't have much to do, man, Like you have
to too serious veterans out there just having fun like
you trend well, but he's not.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
But he's going to add to it by actually being
a good ref It's not going to be like the
girl Jessica.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
No, no, man, Aubrey Edwards would have been great out
there in.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
That after I just got done with taking away from
the match for being You see, what you do is
you have you have the girl with the giant, shiny
fucking jacket on, would make it all about herself, and

(36:01):
then you have the referee make it all about herself.
And you know that would be the best way to
do it. But now this this was fun and it
was for the audience and it was for the people
to kind of have a nice send off to the
to the people of Australia.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah. No, And I see somebody saying that Jessica Carr
is fantastic as a reugh man. She makes a lot
of mistakes. Yeah, she's she's not. I mean, I think
we were talking about that too on Tuesday, how it
feels like she's just kind of punched out of being
a referee. Maybe she's more focused on being an evolve.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, she's moved on to she's moved on to her wrestler.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, believe me, there's not a lot of things I
don't like shitting on people, as far as referees unless
they're doing a real ass job. Like you notice, I
didn't even shit on the girl after she had that
whole finish that happened on Friday the other Friday with
Naya and all that, because they set her in a
position of like, whatever you do, don't make discount or

(36:57):
whatever the fuck is going to be. Even though she
shut up, she should have done it. But yeah, no,
Jessica Carr's not particularly great.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, it's EO Sky and Rio Ripley versus the Kabuki
Warriors of Oscar and Kyrie saying in a tag team match.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
A fine, respectable match. But I truly I was checked
out at this point. I mean, I just watched a
fireworks show for twenty five minutes, right, you know, I like,
and it's no disrespect to any of the women involved
in this match. I mean, they all did exactly what
they needed to do. The match was fine. It just
felt a little bit long because what we, like I said,

(37:32):
what we just watched was the fucking main event, right,
There's no way around that, like you can't have all
of that happen and then be like Noah, here's a nice,
regular old tag match. And you're like, I don't know,
what did you What did you think? Dude? You do
you feel like this is the end of this or
what are they going to do now?

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Well? This was one of the problems too, is I
mean on Thursday I was saying, look, I kind of
wanted this to continue. I kind of wanted to Booky
Warriors to win. I thought storyline wise, it made more
sense not to just end this on a glorified house show.
And I don't know where they go from here. They
made it very clear that EO is not becoming a
part of the new Kabooki Warriors or whatever the fuck.

(38:16):
Like it just feels like this is the end of it,
like there's nowhere else to go. They got the definitive win,
you know, Rho, Ripley and Eosky won over Oscar and Kyrie,
and yeah, it's almost like they finished this with a
fart as opposed to like some big spectacle. I thought
this should have went to like a Survivor series at least.

(38:38):
I thought this should have been something important, But it
feels like this might have ended here, and I don't
know if they're ending it here to kind of move
Eosky along or maybe even to move Ria Ripley along,
because I almost feel like, even though Oscar's been the
best part of this entire feud, I think she's going
to be saddled with carrying Kyrie around and just kind

(39:00):
of making other people look at it. This point, it's like, man,
you have Osca, is this mega heel out there? That
fan base with the audience there was absolutely anti Oscara,
and I was I was really enjoying that. I was
enjoying the fact that here you have somebody that's genuinely
beloved like Osca and able to flip that on people
because she's such a bitch and it's great and it

(39:23):
just feels like it's all over now, you know, right, Well.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
It's you know, similarly to uh, you know anything right,
a movie or you know an album. I remember when
people used to listen to my real registration to albums. Right,
It's like the placement of a song on an album
or whatever it might be. It's the same exact thing
on a wrestling card, you know, where you have to
put things in the right order, because you're not going

(39:48):
to get the reaction you're looking for, you're not going
to get the interest level you're looking for. And to me,
them putting this even as the semi main, if we
even want to call it that, I guess it was
sort of them saying out loud and believing Ria's going
to bring him back. Right, Ria's the big star, She's

(40:09):
the Australian like she's she's the woman here, right, She's
the big like, she'll bring him back after scene naj
Styles did that crazy shit, she'll bring him back after
they just saw Roman reigns for forty five minutes like
this on all in order.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Man, the real story here isn't even EO anymore. The
real story here is Osca and Ria Ripley. Why the
fuck does Oscar hate real Ripley so much?

Speaker 2 (40:37):
That's that's fine, Yeah, right, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
But then you know, expand on that, give us a
little bit more than that, right, Like all of this
EO stuff has been like a deck of cards, right,
like one of those house of cards. It's falling over
piece by piece, and the EO relationship is kind of
falling apart. Kyrie's tried to save it a couple of times,
and EO still doesn't agree with it, and then Ripley
butts her nose in there, but that was already after

(41:04):
Oscar said there's no saving Real Ripley, and I was like, oh, okay,
great kill Real.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
You're not wrong. It is a little weird like, and
we'll get to it for the main too. But this
is why I think wwe desperately. I mean, it's not
even any more like a matter of preference or taste.
They desperately need to move towards having managers and valets again,
because you gotta freshen this shit up and you need

(41:34):
alter Like.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
No, I think they just need some fucking liven dude. Like,
the problem is is that they can't keep their thoughts straight.
You have Oscar start this whole fest. Right, there's this
EO problem with this because of Rio Ripley. It's always
been Real Ripley's fault. Even Kyrie being a simp for
OSCA is technically, in a tree branch kind of way,

(41:58):
Ria Ripley's fault. EO now breaking away from OSCA into
Femily is all Ria Ripley's fault. So why isn't Rio
Ripley versus Osca, the eventual direction that this should all
take place in, you know what I mean. So if
they're ending this EO Sky team up with Rio Ripley

(42:19):
and they're ending the Kabuki Warriors feud with Ria and EO,
I feel like it leaves a huge hole. It really does. Like,
if this is the end of it, this is an
awful way to end this feud because even by the
parameters at WWE set creatively, they've just thrown out half
the storyline.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Well, speaking of a huge hole, ceth Reins, No, sure, dude,
I know, but this is what is rough. They need somebody,
whether it be someone who's more capable of kind of
telling this story. Once again, not an insult Asca, but
like it needs to be somebody who's capable of telling
this where it's like, what is the jealousy between Rhea

(42:59):
and Osca? Is it based around the fact of, like,
you know, I was an Internet Oscar, I was an
international talent. WWE wasn't taking people from other parts of
the world. They were just taking pretty little blonde girls
and putting them on TV right until I showed up
and showed them. Maybe you got to get your ass
on a plane. Guys, maybe you got to go look

(43:21):
at people from other parts of the world, So Rio,
you should be thankful to me that you're even here.
Then you're messing with my friends and you're taking my
family away. Then you're going to your hoging all the glory,
you're taking all the title shot, all the shit Like
this is an easy kind of story to tell and
build on, and you could go for months and months
and months. But we also could have just wiped our

(43:44):
ass with this, because that's how WWE operates. You know,
we could be onto the next thing in forty eight
hours or less, but you.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Know there is on to the next thing. Twenty nine
minutes forty seconds. We had seth Rollins Raw World Heavyweight
Champion versus Cody Rhoades SmackDown on disputed WWE Champion Singles
match for the Ellice, the Elusive maybe WWE Crown Jewel Championship.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
The Uninteresting. I almost sent you the sound effect, and
I remember we would be on YouTube and I don't
want us to get copywritten for it. But the episode
of Always Sonny in Philadelphia where the girls Jack and
old Danny DeVito under the table and he's like you
just mention it like that's how this felt to me.

(44:31):
Like I'm like, you just mention it, like that's all
this whole match was. They just kept doing shit and
I'm thinking to myself, is this for us or is
this for you? Which is the aw model? Right? Is
this for you or is this for us? Because we're

(44:52):
now completely the crowd is fucking deader than Abe Lincoln.
All right, they're trying and they're trying, and like you said,
four grand some of these motherfuckers paid to be there
and they're sitting there during a WWE like you know,
here's the two champions of the company, and you could
have heard somebody drop a fucking pepsi in the fourth row.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Well, the wrong guy won this. Seth Rollins winning completely
deflates all of the build up. We were talking about
this again the other day. I'm like, Seth has to lose.
He has to because the whole consequences is the interesting
aspect of advancing his character. If Seth lost, like Paul
Hayman was telling him on Monday, you lose the fans,

(45:37):
you lose the locker room, you lose the respect of
Bronson Reed and bron Breaker. You lose everything you start,
your wife doesn't look at you the same anymore. Like
all of these things would have been ways to advance
Seth Rollins's character and then maybe make him crazier or
make him more underhanded or deceitful or something, but no, lol,

(45:59):
Seth one. And it's kind of like, oh, well, thanks
for all those consequences that you know don't fucking matter
because he won to go on, and Cody needed a
win because Cody's kind of becoming lackluster, and for the
cornerstone of the company to be lackluster, that's a problem.
I think that's a severe problem. So whoever designed this

(46:20):
match to go as long as it did and give
out the wrong I guess the wrong winner in this scenario,
it just feels like it's a way.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah, with every single fucking move spot finish off the
top rope, this stomp off to all this shit. Yeah,
that was the problem, all right. My big problem was
in somebody thank you to Michael. I saw you just
supposed to put that up there. Yeah, It's like, yeah,
Michael Granger for five dollars, thank you, buddy was waiting

(46:50):
for the crossroads off the top rope of the big
screen way too many finishes. Yeah, I mean they just
did way too much for this now in concept, after
seeing all the shit that happened in the CNN AJ
Styles match. If this had been a dare I say,
a more regular match, if we want to call it that,

(47:14):
and it was building towards Seth finding a way to
incorporate the watch in the finish, and that was kind
of the whole story being told, and we got it
done in twelve minutes. That would have been fine, but
instead we're back to like watching another Seth rawlins ROH
two thousand and fucking eight title defense match. It's like,
we don't need this again and again and again. It's

(47:36):
the same fucking thing over and over and over again.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Why I told you before, I didn't even think it
should have been Seth and Cody. I think La Knight
versus Seth was the story you could have had, its
crown Jewel Perth and even if La Night won or
lost or however they wanted to do it, it was
a way to tie up that storyline, give us that
big match that we needed with La Night and Seth,

(48:01):
and move it along. But instead they felt like they
should put Cody in this, which We argued about that,
and we thought that, you know, maybe that wasn't the
best choice. But now you have that choice, and you
had all these consequences, and you had all this storyline
that creatives set up, and you still throw it back
in everybody's face. There's literally nothing good that happens from
this direction. Nobody looks good for this. Cody doesn't look

(48:24):
good because he lost to Seth. Seth doesn't look good
because he doesn't get to grow his character. So him
being Becky's little whipping boy or whatever doesn't matter anymore
because he won the match and everything goes back to
the way it was. And the way it was has
been a problem for a lot of people. People have
been saying, who's saying, Sports Illustrated, Bleacher Report. Look, it

(48:46):
hasn't been great. It hasn't been great creatively for Seth
Rollins or Cody Rhodes. And it's just wild that you
would set everything up to give us an opportunity to
change that and you don't change it, and.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
You put them together.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
It's like, but they recognize the problem, that's the issue.
Ww ME clearly knows that these guys need something to
spice up their lives, right their sex lives. They need
to spice up their in ring life, and they give
the opportunity, they present the story for it, and then
they just throw it away with the match, just throw

(49:22):
it away.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
You have two guys who are, for lack of better term,
kind of floundering, and people would go, well, they both
have championships, and it's like, yeah, that's the problem.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
One of the things that you said to was this
would have been a lot better if Becky was out there, yes,
adding to the match, And I completely agreed with you
on that one. I think if Becky Lynch was out
there getting frustrated for Seth, I don't even necessarily need
her to to be you know, like to get in
Cody's boots or nothing like that. But I absolutely thought

(49:55):
that bringing Becky down there would have it brings him
to a different level because now all of a sudden
his wife, because isn't that the big rumor too, is
that Becky's eventually going to come out as the leader
of the Vision.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Well they got to change, dude, I hope. So they
got to change something, because even if you'd had Becky
at ringside to try to pull heat from this crowd,
because these people were dead, and I'd say probably at
least a good fifteen to twenty percent of the crowd.
They were trying, man, they were trying. They were They

(50:29):
were soldiering on. And this is what's sad. They were
soldiering on for who are supposed to be two of
the biggest stars in the company and the holders of
their championships. Because they're sitting there going, oh my god,
the fuck. No one's no one's reacting, no one's changed.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Hired, dude, they fucking spent themselves. There was like a
million yellow shirts out there. We knew why everybody showed
up there.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
They were all there for Sina, dude. They were all
there for Sina. And like that. We said that the
other day, Sena goes over done matter if every other
heel on the card wins scene, it goes over And
instead they plugged it in the middle of the show,
Like why why did you? I do not understand why
they put that on third in any capacity. I know

(51:16):
that I guess Roman's got to get out of the
building because he's such a big fucking star. We got
to get him out of there, like I'm honest to God,
Like for saying that the Roman and the Brons and
thing was good or it was fine. I thought it
was okay, it was acceptable. But there has to be
a point now where WWE has to look at a
guy like Roman and be like, brother, you need to
go on later than fucking eight fifteen, Like we need

(51:39):
you on the card later on, right, because you're sucking
all the air out of the building. And then we
send someone else in, didn't they suck all the air
out of the building? And then we send these guys
out and what's supposed to be the main event and
you're hearing like, dude, how sad was it? Ten minutes
into this match when you're sitting there in your hearing

(52:03):
because they're just trying. These people are just trying to
make the make it sound like something like they're into it.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
And well, you know what's even funnier than that though, too.
You look at that promo that they had before the match,
and they show every single country that they've been to
and all these wild and crazy reactions from across the world,
and then they get to Australia and the main event
and everybody's sitting on their hands. What does that tell you?

(52:31):
What does that tell you Australia is exactly a country
that you know gets WWE every other week.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
It shows you that they fucked up. They fucked that up.
I'm not blaming the people for a second. I am
not blaming that crowd because at that point, what is it.
It was eleven o'clock at night.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Over there for right, right right, it's.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Eleven o'clock at night. Like you said, everybody in the
crowd's wearing yellow. Looks like a fucking Pacers playoff game.
Everybody there is there for John John fucking Sina. You
sent out Metallica third, you know, like this is what Yes,
Taylor Swift is playing, who's her opener is coming out? Afterwards? Wow,
there's no crowd. I don't understand, right right, Well, whoever

(53:15):
susi q Bucaloo is not getting the same reaction. Yeah,
no shit, Why would you do that? Why would you
do that to these two? And yes, are they both
colds at this point in my opinion, yes, of course,
But then you set them up for to go even worse.
I don't know. They needed Becky at ringside to add

(53:36):
heat to this. Working towards him doing the finish with
the with the watch was good That was a good finish.
That was a good way of telling the story of
you know, fuck you, my life got derailed after I
helped you because I'm looking for excuses because I'm a
heel and I'm a liar and filling the blanks, YadA, YadA.
But we didn't need fifty fucking high spots in between it.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Well after, after Seth takes control and wins the match, Lol,
it's not over yet because the Seth then cuts a
promo for another five minutes about how awesome he is
and how the world of blah blah blah, And then
Triple H comes out there and they drag Stephanie with

(54:19):
them and they're all in the ring together for a second,
and then they do their take a bow and photo
op moment, and that's how we end Crown Jewel Perth.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Yeah. I mean, do we even really like? Honest to god,
I think we've made it pretty clear on the best
and the worst on the show, huh. I mean, but
maybe we disagree on the worst because we obviously know
what the best you would be. What would you say
is the worst thing got on this?

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Oh? The worst is the main event? Sorry?

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Okay, so we agree on both.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Yeah, main event is the worst because you literally took
weeks to set up these storylines and then just threw
them out in the garbage. You derailed other storylines that
you had going on because Cody versus Seth was so
and you threw it in the garbage. And then we
get a Seth promo afterwards to basically tell everyone, Haha,
fuck you, everything stays the same. I mean, what the

(55:11):
actual fuck. This isn't an American audience, This isn't some
random town in fucking Kentucky. You literally traveled across the
entire globe to people that don't see you to tell
them fuck you to their face. Oh I'm sorry, it's
just right.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
And now there's also this part of me too, where
I go, are they forced to put this on as
the main events? That way they can tell Sheikhs Turkey
that they put their amazing, illustrious, big fucking title We'll
never see again as the main event.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Is that the whole point? Like it's it's embarrassing. This
is what happens when you sell your butthole to other people,
as you end up with these goddamn shows where the
crowd once again they paid God knows how much money
to be there are in our three and they're like, well, guys,
I know this makes no sense, but we have to

(56:01):
appease the Sheik.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Well look at it, like you guys, you know you
have to you have to be forward thinking about this.
When t KO sells to the Saudi's, which is happening
very soon, is Seth rollins the first one they fire
or the second one behind Cody Rhodes.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Good God, I don't know, but I will I will
say this. At this point, I don't know what's going
to be left of them. I mean the way that
they're handling this, and I don't want to fucking throw
Cody out out the door like that's the I hope
people aren't interpreting as that. Seth I could give a
shit if I ever have to see him wrestle ever again.
I'm so exhausted with the guy. I'm over his entire act.

(56:41):
I've been done with it forever. I think he's like
a slightly upgraded Kenny Omega, and that's being generous, uh,
But it's just like, by the time they even get
to WrestleMania, I don't know what's going to be left
of Cody right, they gotta change something for him. Seth

(57:01):
don't care Triple H's gundam. He's in Triple H's asshole.
We're gonna have to deal with him as long as
we have to. But I don't know. It was a
pretty good show for washing it at nine o'clock in
the morning, with the exception of that main event bullshit.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
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(57:41):
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