DOES ANYONE REMEMBER LA KNIGHT? or ASUKA STANDS ALONE (Wrestling Soup 9.30.25)

• [0:00] – Joe and Anthony open the show with banter about the Super Bowl halftime show, Bad Bunny, and pop culture reactions.
• [1:40] – Discussion about Adele, public perceptions, and the shift in halftime show performers.
• [6:00] – The conversation shifts to Monday Night Raw, with Anthony expressing excitement to discuss wrestling.
• [7:00] – Commentary on body image, public criticism of wrestlers, and the evolution of audience attitudes.
• [10:40] – In-depth analysis of the women’s division storyline, focusing on Rhea Ripley, Iyo Sky, and Asuka, including acting critiques and storytelling nuances.
• [18:00] – Anthony and Joe discuss the pacing and structure of WWE segments, with suggestions for improvement.
• [23:00] – Reflections on the complexity of current WWE storylines, character development, and audience engagement.
• [28:00] – The hosts analyze the dynamics between Cody Rhodes, Seth Rollins, and other main event figures, critiquing the storytelling and character motivations.
• [36:00] – Discussion about LA Knight, Adam Pearce, and the undercard, including thoughts on missed opportunities and WWE’s booking decisions.
• [44:00] – The episode covers the tag team division, the role of authority figures, and the evolution of certain wrestlers’ personas.
• [50:00] – Joe and Anthony reflect on the international roster, backstage influences, and the longevity of certain wrestlers in WWE.
• [56:00] – The main event is recapped, including the tornado tag match, Roman Reigns’ appearance, and the crowd’s reaction.
• [1:05:00] – Closing thoughts on the episode, including personal updates, shoutouts, and reminders to subscribe and follow the show.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
You know who's playing the Super Bowl halftime show this year?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Right? No, who's that?

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Wow? None other than Pro Wrestling Zone A bad by Annie.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh yeah, I did hear that. I actually heard that
of madea goo. That wasn't that's not? Is that really new? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
I think it only happened a few days ago. Oh okay,
I don't think. Yeah, we haven't recorded since. I think
it happened over the weekend. That could be crazy.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, yeah, maybe you're right. I think I heard it
even earlier than that. But maybe it was one of
those speculations. I don't even know where the fuck I
saw that, maybe read it, I know.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, well, I am sure that there are a lot
of people who are very salty about it. But I
guess the other option and she turned it down was
a deel, so I think that it more than likely
happened was they were like, let's pick the most non offensive,

(00:56):
just British white lady, right, she's gonna come out here
and she's gonna sing her sad songs at the halftime
show for some reason. And then she turned it down
and they were like fuck it, bad fucking bunny awesome. Yeah,
that's honest to good I don't see the fucking issue here.
I mean, obviously, of course, other than people being like,

(01:17):
why don't you speaking Mexican, I don't understand what he's saying.
It's like, yeah, I don't know how to blame. I
don't know how to explain this to people. But not
every fucking thing that's popular is for you.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Who's the big guy buttercake?

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Or but.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Is internet for artist? Dude? I am so fucking stoked
that'll we get to talk about Monday Night raw here
on wrestling soup. Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, heways back to bad Bunny, back to the fact
that people used to tell you that Adele was ugly
because she was forty pounds overweight, and then someone puts
up a picture of her and I'm like, yeah, she's
a fucking model. Like it's such a goofy fucking thing
that I think is starting to happen less and less.
But you remember the Adele is ugly shit people used

(02:20):
to say.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I think it was always about her weight. I think
that's what really bitch about it.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
It was also ridiculous, you know, like, yeah, but I
don't you.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Shall specifically remember people going out of the way and
go with debt bitch. She's so ugly, even if she
was skinny, like it was always making fun of her weight. Dude. Yeah, yeah,
it's just that's.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
What it is, you know. Do you know what I
think it is too to some extent, what's that? I
feel like over time now we're starting to put together
the fact that, like, most people are just okay looking
and you just gotta be reasonable about it. Like I
think it's not even like a matter of like the
fat'll do nicely shit where it's like no, but.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
That was that was different, right, Like I've had to
defend that. The reality is is if you're a huge
person and you're telling other people it's healthy to be fat,
you should be shot out of a cannon. Seriously. It's
not a noble well that's it.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
And by the way, I every time I see that,
I always think to myself and it's like, now we're
both fucking grown ups. A lot of the time, it's
like twenty something year olds who haven't had to go
do some blood work or go to the doctor do
some real shit, you know what I mean. It's you know, yeah,
I'm twenty five. I feel fucking great. You're like, ah, yeah, dude,

(03:36):
you can't be staying like that. It's going to catch
up to you and it's going to suck. And it's
not even a matter of like, oh, people don't want
to fuck me. It's like, quite literally, your body's going
to feel like fucking dogshit. So it's a good idea
to try to do something. But yeah, I suppose, Yeah, Well,
Monday Night Ross certainly happened, did it not? I will
agree with that.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Oh, I liked it. I didn't think it was bad
at all. I think, I think, other than the Seth
and Cody stuff, I thought overall, the night was good.
I enjoyed the fucking the long form storytelling of Ria
Ripley and Eosky and Oscar Oscar really coming into a
rare form look out of all of the people in
that feud, Oscar really is head and heels above everybody else.

(04:20):
As far as acting her role, her as a heel
is so natural, she is so good with it from
the inflections of her voice obviously, you know, wearing the
serpent across the face, but and of course the mist
and just the connections of it. And I like the
complexities that they're trying to tell with Japanese family and
Japanese traditions and honors between people even when they do

(04:44):
you wrong, versus the American West's version. Like you know,
Ria Ripley is pretty much representing America and kind of doing.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Well, neighbors right next to each other.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
I mean, she's closer to Japan. You don't. We don't
read a map, we don't know that. So yeah, but yeah, no,
she's representing this. You know, fuck families, family suck, and
it's this weird, complicated mess. Unfortunately, EO is the absolute
worst actress, every whole shit, and not as a heel.

(05:20):
As a heel, she's always done fine. I've I've actually
really enjoyed EO's work as a heel, but as a
baby face, this weird clawing at my face and stamping
my feet because I'm having a problem making a decision
is just.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
I don't even know what tapes she studied to learn
that was a good idea.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I think she studied like old Andrew Dice Clay. Stand
up guys. I must say, like you all know, I
love to use my voices, but I feel like if
I was to imitate what was going on here, even
I'd feel itchy afterwards because it's that it's that like,
you're right, I'm glad that you called that out. I

(06:03):
think that it would be greatly aided by moving along
a little bit faster these segments, right.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, So she had three full segments on Monday. I
was kind of surprised. I'm like, wow, that's a lot
of time for EO, even though she looked like one
of the Smurfs. I was okay with it, you know,
like even Kyrie saying kind of impressed me playing the
child in between two people getting a divorce. I'm like,
you know what you're good at that, You're good at

(06:29):
playing the child that doesn't want to lose mommy. I'm like, okay,
this makes this makes perfect sense. I was fine with it.
It just EO's acting was wow, head has some campy glow.
Wow nineteen eighties shit.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, it just needed to be moved along faster. I
think that's what would happen. And I'm sure there would
be people that think I'm saying that as like, move
it along, the shit sucks. But what I'm saying is
is the pacing that kind of longer orm pacing that's
for people that are trying to do some sort of
serious stage tour, and that's not what this should be.

(07:11):
This obviously should have been. You know, EO coming out
very upset, angry, maybe even yelling, yelling in a confused,
sad sort of way. Rhea comes out. Rhea's walking with
the microphone saying to where, like yo, I don't know what,
and her saying to where you don't understand. Immediately lights
go out, boom, shit happens, and we move on like

(07:33):
it's just right WWE. And this is obviously a hangover
from the Vince era and the writer's guilt of WWE,
where everything is quite literally four score and seven years ago.
Now just this can happen in a minute. I feel
like crying.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Look, it almost feels to me like you're trying to
be appreciative of EO. Like in the sense of Rhea,
Ripley can go out there and cut these amazing promos
she can keep, I mean, because she kind of opened
up the crowd and everything else like that. She came
down to the ring, you know, they were yelling for
her and stuff, and she came out there and she
cleared the air and she made it very clear that
she was going to take out you know, Osca and

(08:13):
Kyrie tonight, and I was like, okay, simple enough, and
then EO's music hits, which surprised me because I wasn't
expecting EO. But it was fine because I was immediately
expecting Kyrie to come out there and take an ass
whooping from Rio Ripley and Osca jumping in like that
was already my forethought. But no, EO comes out there,
and it's almost like they wanted a full sit down

(08:34):
doctor Shelby therapy session to happen with Rio, Ripley and
EO Sky right there to open raw and I'm like, no, no, please, no,
don't do this. And you're right. If they moved it
along a little bit faster and had the interference or
you know, the the eventual jumping of Rio and Eo,

(08:58):
Rio and O Rhea with Osca and Kyrie, I think
that would have been a lot better. I just I
think Osca does a really good job. She's she's starting
to emote in a way that's almost a cartoon villain, like,
very much like a Japanese anime villain, but at the
same time, she's grounded enough that it's not too over

(09:20):
the top, right, Like she's not doing dragonball z flying
out the sky a million feet in the air kind
of shit. She's keeping herself well grounded, and even when
she's attacking, she's far more villainous than before, even including
the mist, but she's not comical about it. It's a
very good balance and she understands that mindset because I thought,

(09:41):
for the longest time the hardest job WW is gonna
have is trying to make everybody hate Osca, And I'm like,
this is it, this is how you do it. She
has a queen complex. She's literally got her midget me
that she beats the shit out of regularly, that talks
about how great she is. And then you have EO,
who stuck in between because she has her own accomplishments,

(10:02):
she has guidging friends, but at the same time she's
pot of apemory. And it's like, I like this. It's
a lot of nuanced, onion thin layers that are telling
a story that I wonder if it's just too complex
for most audiences.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Well, I think it's also like you said there with Oska,
is that she's talented enough to pull off either of
these things. And that's not saying EO, isn't. I mean
obviously when it comes to in ring shit, she's a
killer and she's really great at getting over as a babyface.
Like you said, she's a good heel. But it's also
in that sense, if you're a good worker and you
have intensity, it's fairly easier to be a heel than

(10:40):
it is to once again get hand in a fucking
microphone and have you be like you don't understand, I
have nowhere to go. Like it's like, yeah, that's not
for everybody. That's not what you're supposed to be doing,
and it's unfortunate because I, like I said, I do
like I love Yo. I think she great Herea's great,

(11:01):
Oscar is great in this role, Kyrie is she's there.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
She's not doing a bad job. No, actually, you know
she's anything. She's doing the best thing she could possibly do.
And that's just relay this sentiment of she's kind of
trapped in a situation and not take up too much
airtime like she's important.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
She's not the main character here in any racacity, So yeah,
she's playing that role fine, right, And she's also not
super over the top either, which is helpful.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
But I think that's what makes her important is because
the way she cowers makes Oscar even more villainous, right
because clearly, in another role, Kyrie would be the super
baby face. Oh let's cheer her. But in this role,
she does what she's told, and the fact that she's
almost a whipped dog makes Oscar look even more imposing.
And I just I like it. I like what Kyrie's

(11:51):
doing by doing not much.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
So they just have to be real, real careful with
towing the line of it getting to cartoonish. Like you said, Becauz,
that that can be a real, real easy pitfall for
something like this. I like the promo up on the screen.
I like the translation. Did you that, Yeah, I was
fine with the translation. I mean I think that they

(12:16):
should have removed the black background it had it been
like we're obviously recording in our evil uh, you know,
Japanese warehouse of Sadness and you know, discontent might just
just do it backstage. It's fine, we get the point,
you know, so that.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
The translation stuff isn't necessary. You understand the gist of
what she's saying. If you understand what she's saying in Japanese,
then you understand. And if you don't just wait an
hour and some translated online for I don't know, Dave Meltzer,
Bleacher Report or somebody. So it's not like it's a
real big deal. I don't know. It kind of takes
me out of it a little bit. I don't mind it.

(12:54):
I'm glad that they're allowing them to switch code, switch languages,
which is fine. You know. It was actually kind of
funny later on in the night hearing Tazawa speak with
that California accent. All of a sudden, I'm like, there
it is, Oh, there it is. It's like you magazine,
what's going on, little lady?

Speaker 1 (13:12):
You know.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
It's like, oh, okay, he's.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Been in America now for a long time.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, I know, but they've always got him doing the
whoh oh ninja and it's like, dude, he doesn't talk
like that. And i was like, oh babe, what's going on?
And I'm like, oh, there's Tazala.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
That's kind of awesome though, if you think about it, Yeah,
Like it's one of those it's like one of Luchadour
loses his mask. It's just like, hey, guess what. We
removed his thin and veiled racist accent. We got rid
of it. That's what he sounds like, yeah, we told
him to step, you know, holding his eyes back and

(13:50):
making the accent for you, for the fucking white people.
You like that, you enjoy that? But no, like, yeah,
this segment was fine. Like I said, they got to
be careful. They don't want to teat her on cartoonish ness.
I have my fingers crossed. This is the way that
they get fucking Julia off of purgatory SmackDown because fucking
wolf they're just doing nothing over.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Oh man, I can't wait for her to have a
series of nineteen matches against NYA Jacks.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Come on, guys, Oh yeah, we don't know. God no, well, no,
I feel like that's one of those. Is that a
Thursday story? And what do you think? Because that no,
I think we can dissect it Thursday fucking night. Man.
That was I guess I could just give this little sample,

(14:36):
a little little treat, will break up a little beat
us to this air. When WrestleMania happened with her, excuse me,
Tiffany and Charlotte, people were real quick to go Charlotte sucks,
Charlotte's to where Charlotte's got the ring rest blah blah blah.
And I said Tiffany is not in a fantastic place. Clearly,
they got to get the fucking belt off her. They

(14:58):
need to give her a little bit more time. And
I was called like, well, you're fucking crazy right now.
I guess it kind of does circle back a little bit.
You saw that little interaction that she had with the Core, right, Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
that was fucking rough dog. That was not sure.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
She hasn't been good in forever. That's what the weird
thing is is. I think there's a lot of people
that just see Titty time and don't see Tiffy time right,
like there's a there's a breakdown. This girl has not advanced, right,
And I think that there was a lot of hype
behind her and I think she's absolutely capable of being
a great wrestler. But I think something is holding her back.

(15:38):
And I don't necessarily mean the powers that be or
her position or whatever. I think it's more along the
lines of her It feels like she's holding herself back
and I don't know, she's got.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
A block, something blocking her ability.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Because you look at what she was doing down in NXT,
you even look at the early stuff she was doing
in WWE. She was fantastic. The crowds were on their
feet for they had arguably as much fire behind Tiffany
Stratton as they do for Stephanie Verkerr So, and it's
just it's just never fully translated. I don't think she's
as comfortable as.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
The core is.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
They have a lot what changed it, because I mean,
I don't think it's me.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
She was as ready for the I don't think she
was as ready for the spotlight as as for Core is.
You know, like, and that's not you know, that's not
picking favorites, that's just seasoning, man, that's just time and
comfort level she has. And I do think that WrestleMania
match definitely fucking derailed a lot of her confidence, but
I'm not so sure that she had that much of

(16:38):
it to begin with. Now. Granted, it doesn't help when
they start giving you these bumb ass opponents, which is
why I think they're hiding her on SmackDown once again,
We're like, all right, you go, you go over there.
I guess we fucked up, but you know, yeah, no,
she she looks like uh, fuckable butters. Now when she
cuts these promos where.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's just flipping, she needs she needs a wake up
call something. I don't know what it is, but yeah, anyways,
we were going on the next match on Raw, which
I really fucking enjoyed. Like, again, Raw wasn't bad. You
had Russev versus Dominic mysterio for the ic holy shit,
who obviously I think most people enjoyed the hell out

(17:18):
of them, but who didn't. This was thoroughly fucking amusing,
and it was so the finish was so well thought
out and so complicated because I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, look,
you have a point where Dominic is like, fuck you, deuces,
I'm out of here. He grabs both the belts right,
and Russa's like, no, fuck you, you little shit, get

(17:38):
back in the ring, grabs them, fucking rolls them in
the ring, and then Dominic does the whole smashing them
with the belt thing, and the ref didn't see it
because the ref was turned around and then turns right
back around, and I'm like, wow, this is some timing shit.
It's really well done. And Rusev doesn't sell the belt
and Russev turns around and then fucking Dominic throws the
belt in his hands, but while the refs look and

(18:00):
the ref's like, fuck you, I just saw you do that.
You can't do that shit, and it was great. And
then Dominic fucking rolls into the ref into the corner.
They push him to the corner and Rusev gets behind him,
does the fucking donkey kick, does the mule kick to
fucking Russev's balls, takes him out with a quick pin
and a fucking handful of tights, And I'm like, this

(18:20):
was so layered. This is not a normal finish for
any type of a match you would expect to see
on our run.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
This was also and everything that's old is new again
type segment because that's a real finish. Okay, back in
the day. I'm even dating myself here at this point,
But back in the day, you know, in the times
of the eighties and the nineties, people had finishes and

(18:48):
it wasn't what we see now where it's like, okay,
so what's the finish of the match, and they're like, uh,
shooting star press. You're like, that's not a fucking finish.
That's just that's that's a way to end a man.
But it's not a finish, you know what I mean.
Like it's like someonem was to say to you, oh,
so what's the ending of the movie and you're just like,
he dies. You're like, oh, all right, well wow.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
But that's been the evolution of WWE matches for the
past forty years. This is what it's evolved into. So
when you see something like this, you have to praise
it because it needs to be recognized as to how
good it was. Yeah, I'm not looking great, looked great,
kept in his role. The only thing. The only problem
that I had with this match was continuity. And I

(19:36):
would have expected you to have caught onto this right away,
but obviously, having two heels out there fighting for a title,
somebody was going to get cheered. Now. Dominic Mysterio has
been going out of his way to be a heel
to the judgment day as of late with his storylines,
whether it's his relationship with rocks In even though it
lives in the background, or the way that he's been

(19:58):
treating Forehead and fin et cetera, et cetera. Dominic's kind
of been a dick to his own boys, But in
this scenario, the crowd still loves Dominic Mysterio in what
he's doing. So I wondered if this was either a
a ploy on WWE's part to see who the fans
would kind of side with. Would they side with the

(20:18):
psychotic Russev or would they side with Dominic Mysterio, which
seems like a gimme And two was it a way
to gauge whether Dominic Masterio might be ready for a
face turn or a face run.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
I think they're very aware of the fact that dom
is over and the way of being an actual babyface
that has a character that has a gimmick that now
has a backstory independent of his father at this point
too in the company, whereas Russev is a very uh
as people use the term white meat babyface, he's a

(20:51):
dark meat heel, you know, shaved head, where's playing trunks raw.
He doesn't give you anything to where you're like, actually,
I think he's fucking cool, which maybe you'd like him.
Maybe you think he's like because he's been funny in
the best or maybe you like him because you know
he's going to give you a good match.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
He's gonna be tough. It's amazing in that ring, still
old and shit. I mean, Russev is ready for something serious,
you know.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Right, but he's not. He's not in any way. He's
not giving you any bread crumbs for fan fare, you know, right,
not even to the degree of like a sas what's
my you know, here's my little song, and I hope
you I hope you like it, but you don't like
he gives you none of that. He doesn't give you shit.
And that's what makes him a like I said, I guess,
a dark beat heel, just not no frills, nothing to

(21:42):
get super excited about. But that's also what made this
match work. Where yes, Dom is technically a sniffy he's
a little squarely heel, but now Dom's also grown into
being a fucking man. He's he's tall, he's six feet tall. Yeah,
he's kind of still got the whip arms and shit.
But yeah he's a little lanky. But I mean, you

(22:03):
can work around that, especially when you have that much personality,
you know, right, he gets beat up, but I can't
remember the way that I described it before, where it's
like he's willing to lose. He's willing to take his
ass beatings, even as a chicken shit, right. I guess
I knew there was a better way for me to
describe it. I've done in the past. But he's one
of those people where yeah, he's gonna okay, he's gonna

(22:26):
have a match with the big guy, and he's still
gonna feign trying to be kid.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
It's a clever heel. I mean, really, when you're talking
about going back to the old school days of the eighties,
Dominic and Russa seemed like old school type of heels.
And I know I saw somebody in the chat saying
that Russa reminds them of a modern day Iron Mike Sharp,
and that could be fair. I was actually even thinking
more singular to somebody like a Gunther, right, a little

(22:54):
bit more of the Gunther range. Not Gunther when he
started getting into the Jay Usso stuff, but I mean
read the Jauso stuff.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, he's he was your typical foreign heel like that's
but he's good in that role. It's not trying to
you know, run him down. No, no, no, that's all yeah,
but that's what it is. It's you know, and here's
you know, fronks jungsting stars from Transylvania and he comes out,
well we're like America's Doo doo and you're like, I

(23:22):
hate you fronks.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
What were what were Ludwig Kaiser's guys Bruno and and
Armpit or something like.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
I'm like, what the fuck, Yeah, it's like these Well
that's it is that we're always going to have that
in wrestling, We're always going to have that in media,
where it's the leering, like spooky heel, that's from where's
he from? I couldn't even wrap my head around such
a place. And you're like, yeah, it's it's also a
first world country, Honest to god. I used to love

(23:54):
when they would make like Greeks or Italians it's Italian heel. Yeah,
well that's why I ended up eventually becoming a baby
based though too. But like it's just funny where it's
like these far away lands said no one could possibly
wrap their heads around, yeah, such as Italy or of course, well,

(24:18):
I mean Seamus was the big Irish guy. But also
Seamus sucked ass at the time, so it was really
easy to he early Shameless was a rough, fucking rough.
You could never imagine he'd become any good. And Russev
at this point too, like you said, he his shit
still looks good and he's very.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Different though, because I mean you go back into Russev's history.
I mean, even especially with Lana. You know, it's like
he came out to a big personality. I mean he's
come out there in a fucking tank at one point,
like this guy was a huge personality, and it's almost
like since he's been back, they've done the reverse. They've
unpackaged him, you know, they they made him simple again,

(25:00):
and it still works because the guy is great and
exciting to watch in the ring, and he looks like
a fucking killer, no matter if he's got an arm
a fucking dime of an arm piece around him, or
if he's just out there by himself. But I think
it's interesting because it's almost backwards. You would think that WWE,
as flashy as they are, how interested they are, and

(25:21):
the big characters would want Rusev to go back, go
back in time before they let him get away to
aw and come back to being that big personality. But
surprisingly it's worked in reverse.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Or they need the contrast with some of these babyfaces,
you know, like like a Dom who's obviously a healed
but he's catering towards that direction. Yeah, jay Ouso. I
mean he's like he's coming out with a six minute
long entrance with shiny pants and sunglasses. If your heel
like once again has given him nothing, He's not given
the crowd shit, you know. But then he's beaten on

(25:57):
sunglass hip hop fun guy. Right, They're like, oh, well,
Bucar's an asshole. I want to cheer for sunglasses fun
hip hop guy. You know, that's what the whole point is.
That's the whole dynamic they're trying to create. But no,
Rusev was fucking great in this match too, and I
feel like it all goes once again, full circle. Everything
old is new again. That is a match from nineteen

(26:21):
ninety three WWF Superstars, you know what I mean. And
that's once again when it goes back to all the
people that you that's just a bad wrestling. They don't
do good wrestling on w WWE. I'm like, well, okay,
I guess if that's how you feel about it.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
But I mean, let's be honest, dude. WWE storylines have
been really lacking as of late, especially in the main
event scene, but it seems like the undercard is starting
to build some interest. I'm more interested in the raw
women's division than I am in ninety percent of the
rest of the show. You know, like there's a lot
more going on with the smaller figures, and oneing if
this is going to pay off, hopefully in Royal Rumble

(27:03):
or WrestleMania or even by next year's past Rustlemania, that
we start seeing some of these smaller characters get larger roles,
because as you pointed out, you know, it just there
are these different levels of WWE, and obviously there's a
lot of fans that are unhappy with WWE, whether it's
the rustling or the storylines or the characters. I mean,

(27:24):
I can partially agree and say, yeah, I think the
main event is falling apart. I'm not into Roman reigns
in twenty twenty six, but I'm sure he's going to
be there. I'm not into Cody in twenty twenty five,
but he's still here. And I'm definitely not into Seth.
But there is something and we'll get to that too,
because there's still more credence to be had about what
we were discussing last week. But from this point on,

(27:47):
I think this is when we had the commercial break
and we had the little tech to tech between Adam
Pearce and La Knight, which these two guys are hilarious together.
I like the fact that Adam Pierce can match La
Knight's energy and cut him off because there was even
a part where they were discussing things before fucking New
Day comes out there, and you know, Adam Pierce is like, well,

(28:09):
what do you think this is La Nights Night or
something like that, and fucking La Knight's like, yeah, You're like, no, no,
it's not just every night is La. Oh my god, dude,
O god.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
I'm looking at those two and I'm thinking to myself,
like you just said there, I'm saying, guys, ten years,
one of these booths is gonna belong to you. Guys,
you know what I mean. Like Adam Pierce someday will
be a great Honestly, I love speaking of like the
pacing of the open opening segment. Adam Pierce's pacing is
some of the best that I've seen in WWE in

(28:44):
a long time, just based off of the fact, like
I said, it's not all Hey, guys, did you believe
that this happened.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
The tag team match playoffs? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (28:57):
No, I feel you, myfe you guys saw what happened
on SmackDown. Like it's like he just speaks and he's eloquent,
and he gets all his points, he gets all his cues.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Nick has gotten really bad at that. Well, I look,
I like him too. It's just wow, he's not doing slow. Yeah,
he's not doing the lord's work as an authority figure.
Let's just put it that way.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
No, well, that was part of the reason why, at
least in my opinion, he never fully succeeded as a wrestler,
because he obviously looked great and he could do the
things that he needed to do in the ring, but
there was always a feeling of being fucking corn flakes.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Here's a ceiling. I think that's what it is. It's
not that he's not capable. He can give us those
great promos. He's had some good authority figure moments too.
It's just there's a ceiling for this guy. And I
don't know what creates the ceiling, whether it's lack of
interest in the storylines he's talking about, or maybe just
a bad gripped overall. I'm not sure, but there are times.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
He says the British would say a dry biscuit.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Ah, yes, there you go. But we get onto New
Day coming out and Kofe kind of getting into La
Knight's face about being you know, a world champion at
one point, and I kind of liked the back and
forth there. It was nice to see Kofe find his
balls for a night. I was like, oh, look at him,
he's squeaking up. I'm like, okay, that's fine, and they

(30:29):
set that up for later on in the evening. And
then we go on to Raquel Rodriguez versus Bailey, and
obviously they were highlighting throughout the match and obviously talking
beforehand about you know, what's going on with Bailey and
bird Girl and oh, last week Bailey was crazy and
turned on her. But the week before that and I'm
just like, ah, here we go, more crazy chick stuff.

(30:52):
I mean, if EO overacting like the crazy chick wasn't enough,
now we got Bailey who's gonna overact as crazy chick.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
And what's exhausting. I would say, what the Bailey thing
is just seeing her put I don't know, ten to
fifteen percent more intensity into her work. That's enough for me, right.
But just since she's come back, she's definitely she's tightening
up her work. She's a little bit more snug, there's
a little more intensity behind her more than any time

(31:21):
she's ever been a heel, and I'm seeing it and
I'm going, all right, I see the vision, if you will,
of where you're trying to bring this. I see it now.
But like you said, it goes back to I'm holding
my head. I'm a nutty nut nutter. I can't help myself.
And it's like it's stop, stop, and all of this

(31:44):
to once again further attempt to push Bird Girl, who.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
They're trying to give her a personality. Joe, that's what
they're doing. The match happened, right, Raquel looks good out there,
Roxy looks good. It was perfectly fine. The match was
fine for what it was. It was the after afternoon
delight shenanigans that happened in the match where a bird
Girl comes down and now Bird Girl has to act crazy.
Oh should I help her? Ooh but she was a

(32:10):
bitch last week. Oh but she's still my friend. Ooh
but I don't like her.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
But we do three times a show that by.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
The way, I'm telling you. They they love Crazy Girl
on Raw. They love it.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Oh no, but they also love the I'm standing on
the ramp and going like, how many fuckings.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
I would have genuinely popped if she said, you know what,
fuck her and just walked right back up them round?

Speaker 1 (32:40):
What if she walked away? She's popcorn on the ground.
I started eating it off the ground.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
But she comes down to the ring and her business attire,
her casual business hr proved attire, and gets mixed up
and yeah. Then Bailey comes to her senses and sees
bird Girl getting knocked the fuck around, and then Bailey
takes out the other two knocks her kel over the ropes,
and then this bird girl is having her flashbacks of

(33:09):
Bailey yelling at her last week and the white week prior.
Bailey turns around and goes high five Bud. I thought,
what you did there? You're my bro and yeah, and
the crowd cheered, there's the fucking reason, and I don't.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
And bird Girl's confused because why are you sometimes my
friend and sometimes you're not, which once again, she should
understand abusive relationships. She is irish, why are we still
doing this? You should totally I'm confused. She knows what
this looks like.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Bird Girl should be introducing Bailey to some liven or something,
you know what I mean, like take her to better health,
like the next segment should be Bailey, We're gonna go
on a trip to go see a man in white,
you know, like it's it's really cornball at this point.
It's like everybody could expect Bailey to be this way
except for bird Girl. Bird Girl just doesn't understand it

(34:03):
doesn't know what mental health is. You have aj Lee
on the fucking card now, who's preaching psychology and therapy.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
But yeah, to be fair, to be fair, that is
some Irish continuity that doesn't know what mental health is.
That's also some Irish continuity.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Fair enough, story is too deep for me.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
But yeah, I'm yeah, like I said, Bailey in these matches,
now you're noticing that she's getting better reactions because, like
I said, she's she looks like she's actually throwing bunches
and clothes lines and shit again, which in the past,
like I don't know, five to six years, she's kind
of softened up her shit. Yeah, and even when she

(34:44):
was a heel, and I get out a lot of
the time when she was a heel, she was playing
the girl with the fucking cliff board and shit whatever.
But like now I'm going, oh, Bailly, can fucking work
a little bit uh bit a fucking shamous style. Man Like,
I'm kind of into this, but then it's like outcomes
to you know, the second.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
There was I'm wondering if that's also part of her
trying to do this weird dynamic change in between the
hugger and the psycho, because when she was really getting
snug there was when she saw a bird girl getting
her shit pushed in, you know what I mean. And
then all of a sudden, Bailey was you know, throwing them,
throwing them the roxy, throwing them to hercul you know.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
So I just I do love I like bay miss.
That is really good. Thanks, it's a shameful thing. Oh good. No.
But in a way, if that was the direction that
Bailey was to head in where Bailey could become dare
I say what, they failed to capitalize in on time

(35:43):
with uh for Natty right where it was like, Okay,
now she's getting to be a little bit more of
the elder statesman in the company. She's not like some
you know, little side ponytail girl. She's been around a
billion years, She's won the championship. I'm not saying she's
the person that's got to be always you know, eat
the fucking pins. But it's kind of fine if Bailey

(36:03):
goes out there and throws a fucking hard right, and
you go, oh, all right, like that, she's kind of
becoming that, she's becoming a gatekeeper. But instead, like you said,
you have aj least ont a show where she's just like,
everyone take care of yourselves, everyone get help. And then
Bailey comes out later and she's just like, I'm a Lulu, right,

(36:23):
I'm a crazy Lulu, which you know, what fifteen years
ago for a twenty two year old girl or twenty
five whatever younger woman, right, that works for a thirty
five year old woman. It's like, bit, you're old, get
help for a second. This we don't want take your
old ass as the doctor gets some fucking SSRIs. We're not.
We're not into this like it's Corny's got it out.

(36:44):
You do old for that, you know.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Go on from there after that wraps up, and then
we get one of those video packages of many trials
and tribulations of Cody Rhoads and Seth Rollins and their
long history and bed together and yeah, who this.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
I once again Cody. Please dude, it doesn't always have
to be this. Why why does he insist on this
sort of like like he's trying to have like a
relationship with everybody.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I wasn't getting into the promo yet, but yeah, no,
I mean, let's just jump into it. So let me
flipping around here. You did have the the Cody and
Seth confrontation, Seth coming out first talking about how important
he is to the business and how nobody exists without him,
and then Cody comes out there to disagree and tell Seth, no,

(37:39):
you are important to this business and you're important for
everybody to be here, but so am I. Oh my god,
And then they go into this weird thing about Cody
kind of questioning. You know, I'm not really sure what's
going on here, because you know, you had the vision
over on SmackDown on Friday, and Paul Hayman was the
one in control there, and you know, and Seth all

(38:01):
of a sudden, getting his panties in a bunch, goes,
I'm in control. I'm in all control. Everybody's here because
of the control I have.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
I'm powerful. I Meanwhile, he's dressed like one of the
fucking villains from like Final Fantasy or some shit like.
It's just it's idiotic. It's idiotic and Cody. But by
the way, I want somebody that's actively writing for or
talking to Cody to say to him, you know what, man,
it's okay to not like people. You don't have to

(38:34):
like everybody. That's fine. And he's like, shut, you helped
me finish the story two years ago. And it's like,
and since then, he's been a dick and you don't
have to like him. You helped me two years ago,
and I appreciated that so much. Two years ago. It's like, dude,

(38:54):
there's plenty of people in your life that might do
a nice thing for you, right, and that does mean
that you have two years later be like, well, I
know you've been a complete piece of shit, but that's
okay now. And I and Cody wants like he really
is fucking He comes up with his cape and shit,
he's Captain Savajo. That's what he kind of like. Every

(39:16):
heel that he has a conversation. But he's like, I
know this isn't you. I know this isn't you, Brian.
That's not how you act like it's so good. Damn Like, dude,
grow a dick.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, he's he's still We talked about him at nauseum
last week. But I think it's the Seth control bit
that obviously the fans started chanting about, and it seems
like there might be some you know, fire to the
idea that Seth really isn't in control, and then it
really runs you down. Well, then who's leading the Vision?

(39:49):
Is it Paul Hayman, is it Broer Ronson Breaker, is
it Becky Lynch? Because I'm I'm really, I'm really underneath
the idea that they want Becky Lynch to be the
head of the Vision because I.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Almost I'd almost accept that as a way to talk
them out of whatever fucking this is.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Yeah, oh yeah, no easily, But that's what I'm saying.
And it would also be an interesting position to give
a woman that much power in WWE over a stable
of main events status wrestlers too, you know what I mean,
Like it's it's it has multi.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
You have haman coward to her too, because he's the
biggest coward of them all. Sure, do you know what
I mean? That's perfectly fine to even have Hayman in
that situation where because I mean, he's he's afraid of
his own fucking shadow. And you also clue in the fact, Well, yeah,
come on, he's got he's got. This is that'th Rowind's wife.

(40:47):
It's thatth Rowland's wife. I have to respect there. And
the other two of course, would also be like, you
know what, what are you talking about? Paul? You know Becky,
we we look out for her and like you could
tell a really good story with that. But unfortunately, like
we talked about the other week, Seth has to we
have to feign that he's a manly man. Well, he's

(41:08):
wearing his finest fucking I don't know what. It's just
really bad. It's really fucking bad. And yes, Cody is
ice cold. This is very stale. I know that this
is who he is.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Cody is just a stepping stone. Let's be honest. Cody
being involved in this is just to keep Seth moving along.
I don't think Cody belongs in this feud at all.
I think it's a weird time to have this feud.
Seth and Cody absolutely have a history, but you would
think that you would put something like this up at
a different point of time. It feels like it's a
rush job. It really does it. Well, we have a

(41:45):
pay per view every other week, Miss they just that
doesn't fucking help. But I'm just saying this is Cody thing.
That's why it feels so paper thin is because they're
relying on the video packages, which is why I was
bringing that up. They're relying on the video packages to
try and move this to some level of interest because,
like you said even earlier, there's nothing new to say

(42:06):
between these two. There's nothing new that has happened now.
If this was Cody Rhodes coming back after the big
reveal that Becky was the one leading Seth Rolins in
the vision, if Becky was the mastermind behind it, that
is a development in a storyline that you would be
curious to see where Cody stands with Seth Rollins at
that point. Obviously, a better Cody, a better version of Cody,

(42:28):
would mock him a little bit about his wife, and
then Seth would do the same thing, and you'd eventually
get that weird Brandy thing. That's eventually going to happen
one way or another anyways, but doing it now feels rushed,
feels forced, doesn't make any sense. It's just a way
for WWE to put two names up on the roster,
on the bill of the car, so people will tune
into this shit.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
And yeah at eight o'clock in the morning in Australia.
But this is once again it's a problem where it's
a rush job. They're just trying to throw something together.
I really feel like us send this story because the
guys are obviously going to meet again. It's not like
that's the end of it. That's Wwe will be watching
these guys probably, but it's.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Gonna mean even less if they do this in April again.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Right, but right, that's why you tell this story of
Cody shouldn't be saying shit, This should be the start
of the potentiality of I mean it's already been done,
but the potentiality of what could happen down the line.
Cody has not really taken a hard stance yet on

(43:35):
Seth and his change and how he treats Punk or
you know, Becky and the Division and all that other shit.
So that's where you have Cody basically say to him, hey,
let the best man win.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Right.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
They want a big match for Crown Jewel Like this
is Crown Jewel Man. We're going to Australia. They want
a big match. You're not going to do any bigger
than champion, VERUS champion. But Seth, I'm not playing your games.
I'm not feeding into this whole thing. Right. You saved
my ass two years ago and since then we really
haven't had a lot of you know, trauma and trauma

(44:10):
and back and forth. So let's keep it clean, just
me and you, right, And that leaves Seth the position
to then be the heel, because that should be the
fucking heel. We're still playing this, will they won't they game?
After coming off of a pay per view not even
two weeks ago, it feels like of where we were
solidly in the camp. Seth is a heel, Seth is

(44:33):
the bad guy, and then Cody comes out and washes
his fucking balls for him again. Oh no, Seth, maybe
you're a good fella. Why is Sam Punk doing all
that work to hammer down the fat that this guy's
a fucking heel for Cody to come out two weeks
later and go, ah see, whiz. I don't know if
you're that bad of a guy, Seth. Remember when you
were nice and I gave you a watch? Motherfuckers, shut up,

(44:55):
Just have a match, Just have him.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Man, There's another level to this that explo why Cody
shouldn't be there. I mean they even had La Knight
when he was talking with Adam Piers talking about getting
his shot against Seth Rollins. La Knight had a great
match up against Kofi. I thought it was great. I
thought it was really well done. But why is he
doing a one and done match when he should be

(45:19):
out there in Seth Rollins fucking face. It just makes
no sense. It's because they don't believe in La Night.
They WWE does not believe in La Knight, and they
sure don't want him to be a part of any
kind of main event stuff involving Crown Jewel or anything
else like that. And considering it's a throwaway pay per

(45:40):
view in Australia, now is the time that I would
have put La Knight versus Seth Rollins at the top
of that card. But because they happen to Rhodes, right,
But they're just happy to like that.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
I'm sure people from Australia be hearing this and being like,
oh thanks guys, but like, shouldn't just some agree. They'd
just be like, hey man, we're happy to have a
big WWE show. And I think, like you said, if
it was La Knight versus Seth, and they put together
a good match. I mean said, but they were.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Building up the storyline, is what I'm trying to say, right,
They went through all these painstakingly fucking different angles with
Seth and La Knight, even to the point of putting
him in there as a fucking special guest referee, just
to hammer the point home that La Knight and Seth
don't like each other and nothing and nothing. And don't
get me wrong, I love the segment with Adam Pierson

(46:32):
La Knight. I think they flow well together. I remember
you just saying, yeah, I thought they were great together.
But nothing came of it, and we were literally put
in another situation where La Knight is now just doing
an exhibition match with you know, Scrub number two from
New Day as opposed to him interrupting this promo and
getting in Seth's face and fucking was like that was

(46:53):
the perfect opportunity. They just don't have any belief in
La Knight, and I'm wondering where that comes from, because
I just don't understand why one week let's push the
idea of Elle Knight and Seth, and then the next
week we just completely forget he's.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Got to be. Yeah, he's got to be giving somebody
some sort of ick, as they say, so where they
just will. He gets to wear sunglasses, he gets to
sell the beef jerky sticks, he gets to sell T
shirts and do his promo. But for the love of God,
we're not going to give him anything past that. That's
for whatever reason, that's it is, what the fuck it

(47:31):
is for them they perceive him in that light.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
I mean, honestly, it would have been it would have
been a great raw had Ellie Knight interrupted this fucking
abysmal promo, abysmal back and forth because it's.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
It's weird why like, but this is the problem though,
mish is that Elle Knight? And I'm not sitting here
saying Ellie Knight is the greatest thing since Slice Bread.
I think he's he's at least new and well, not new,
but at least fresh. Right, Yeah, he's you know what,
he's hot, honey. You know it's not it's not game changing,
but it's pretty damn good. And it's new where it
was still right, Like, you never had hot honey and

(48:06):
a pepperoni pizza. Shit's bomb, No, but I've had it
in tea and it's great too, so oh yeah, yeah, dude,
I'm telling I like it. I'm like, hey, you ever
had it on a fat cheese bread and you're like, oh,
I got it in a cup of tea, thanks, dude.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Hot mint tea is actually really good. It's just the
weird back and forth dichotomy of flavors. It's delicious.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Oh yeah, and he's fucking delicious. But like that's for him, yeah,
for him to have come out, and you're right to
been like, oh, I'm sorry that I interrupt you guys'
therapy session, Like you guys gonna kiss, Like what listen,
it's you're supposed to be fighting me. I know.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
You've even set up something with Cody versus La Night again, right,
just even for like a week for an exhibition match,
and then Seth gets involved and fucking increases the heat
between Seth and La Night. I just it seems so
easy because they've done all the legwork. They just can't
put the lego pieces together. Yeah, and every has to.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Be at a snail's pace, and seemingly there's no like
endgame of this now, the idea of having that interaction
with Kofi, right, Okay, you know there's l a Knight, Oh,
I used to be champion. You were never champion. You
can't beat me, okay, La and that goes out there
and beats him. La Knight then says, hey, Adam, Hey,
you know, Seth? What do I gonna do? How many

(49:22):
ex WWE champions an X you know, universe? How many
of them do I got to beat before I get
a shot again? How many of them? How many of them?

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Asked?

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Do I get a kick? And then you tell that
story for a nice month or I don't know, thirty
seconds to whenever the pay per view is again after
Australia and you have a fun you have something there. Okay,
who the fuck does La Night work next? You know
who's the next champion that he beats up? You go
down that little story, right, you have him starting needle

(49:52):
in Seth. I don't know. It's very, very fucking boring.
Seth's boring without seeing punk. Apparently he's just a runnerless
ship and a fucking tacky outfit.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
And somebody's not like that's the weird thing, Joe. They
actually are planning stories for this guy, but there's just
no execution of it. Right, the becky thing, I think
everybody kind of believes that Becky's going to be the
one running the vision at this point. We just haven't
seen that shoe fall yet, you know. But the La
Night thing they've been building up for how long now,
it's not new, it's not fucking new, and it's like,

(50:26):
do something with this, please, please, don't just forget about it.
And I mean, I mean, good on La Night for
or whoever that's trying to keep La Knight and Seth
Seth in La Knight's mouth, you know. But there's just
it seems like there's so many opportunities to do something
at least to why Okay, let me and I know

(50:48):
I'm having incomplete thoughts here. Why can't they run multiple
storylines with one person at the same time. They've done
it a million times before.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Whoa, whoa, that's crazy. I mean we have to have,
like you said or I said earlier, we have to
have almost every single show have a segment where somebody
stands on the ramp confused as to whether they should
make the save on somebody that's important, that's important. Someone
has to be crazy.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
It's like, guys, three times three different people have to
be crazy.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yeah, cues are breaking up at the same time, Like
it's like, guys, you can do shit. That's fucking sit
down and be like these are specific storylines, all right,
everybody should like the three of the same things shouldn't
be happening at the same time.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
I mean, the storylines are so simple. But at the
other hand, we have guys like Shapiro coming out saying
that this product is going to be dedicated towards adults,
and it's like, well, are we just talking to people
under the IQ of forty? Like is that what do
we want Rustling to be? Because yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
This is it. He's like, yeah, I'm I'm aiming We're gonna,
you know, go in the direction of adult. So, like
you said, I guess dumb adults with shot attention spans
and lots of money apparently just more money than they
have any idea of what to do with themselves. Apparently
that's it.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
We got aj Styles and the Dragonly versus the Loss
Americanos with Bruno and Sicca or whatever the fuck the
other guy's name was. Yeah, sure, and I.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Do love the direction they're going in. Of the Los Americanos,
none of them will be American.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Oh no, that's even better.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
I like that, right, Yeah, it is funny, and I
actually go to.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
The next level and just you know, have one of
them be an Australian guy, and maybe one of them
be an Irish guy. Maybe get a Samoan guy out
there and clearly Simoan too. He doesn't even wear like
a shirt or nothing, just has the Samoan belly out
there or something.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
How about they do that with bird Girl.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Oh, it just comes out with a mask and she
just happens to be black.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Wait what listen. I don't like bird Girl. I don't
think she's particularly good, but mish, we're not putting her
in black face.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
It's Oba femi. But it's you know, he's wearing the
bird girl outfit.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
We're like, dude, we all know that's Oba Femil girl,
Boba bird fem Yeah. I can't make that work. Yeah, now, dude,
what's well that was For a while we were saying,
that's what amashra to just put him in the the America.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
That was.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
That was so I don't know that it's it's really disturbing.
Though maybe disturbing is a little too harsh for a word,
but maybe it's a little annoying that one of the
more entertaining things on the show that is having continuity,
and it's like presentation, is this dumb ship?

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Well, it's it's because there's a funny storyline behind it.
I think that's what it is. It's an entertaining storyline. Oh,
it's Rao and Bravo? Are the names Rao and Bravo?

Speaker 1 (54:07):
And it's Peak done in what's his face? Tyler Bate?

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Right, No, it's Ackelmann Razar. Didn't you see it's.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
By the way, I gotta figure out what Tyler bit like,
what's going on with him? How? And that guy gno
him Dar? Some of these guys, I'm like, how how
are they still? How? How do these men have jobs
still in this company? It is absolutely beyond me the
amount of people we've seen fired come and go, and

(54:39):
it's these five foot six hundred and sixty pound British
guys and they just constantly make it through the muck.
I have no fucking idea. I guess that's a good
if they're gonna do shit like this. Sure, i'd suppose like, hey,
we got something for Pete done.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
And you think it's a real decision. I mean, you
bring up the fact that they're Brits. Do you think
it's a regal thing? Regal says they're good, and Triple
H's like okay, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
But meanwhile, I look to get their shit canning. They
so many people have gone.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
I think, I mean, I really think TKO is going
to step in there eventually and just start cleaning out
their toy box.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
I really do know, truly. I mean, to some extent,
some of these British guys, they're kept there in a way,
and maybe you're right, maybe it is regal because it
feels borderline Tony Khan esque, where it's like, can you
just why fucking fire these people? Why are they still there?
They've been there for fucking a dozen years and done

(55:41):
nothing nothing that whole time. That kid, know, m dr?
I mean, of all of them, what the fuck is
has he been on the regular television show ever? Has
he been on SmackDown even a long time ago? She's dude,
I'm not even sure.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Yeah, yeah, not since two five live? Yeah it sounds
about right, thanks FO.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
When did too five live happen two thousand and sixteen?

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Yeah, twenty sixteen, Holy shit, dude, when a cruiserweight championship.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Like what does he have does do these British guys
have some sort of fucking e f scene list on?
These people? What are they? Why are they still there?
Zero sense is because he's yeah, is that right? Well
I'm not yet. I'm not open.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
You don't want to touch that one, is it? Because
really is really Israeli that's what it says, Israeli wrestler.
So well they.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Proud that job was promised to him for three thousand years.
Apparently this is you know what, I'll even go one
one step further. Here is his Hebrew name. I'll let
you pronounce it in the chat. There you go, uh
he tt DBD Is that what it is?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
There? You go?

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Well TGDVD. Apparently I don't. By the way, I just
want to make it clear, I knew none of those
things before I made those comparisons. But as they say, dude,
it sounds like the fucking puzzle pieces. No, I you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
I do think that there are obviously vets and road
agents in the company that are probably swinging for the
fences with some of these guys saying, hey, you got
to find a spot for them. They're valuable, don't get
rid of them. They're great wrestlers, they're great entertainers, whatever
it may be. And you know, a guy like Regal
absolutely has the big daddy influence with Triple H in

(57:39):
a lot of different ways.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Right, Well, you know what, I can't mish. I can't
escape this. So do you think that now that's their
next plan? Is They're like, wwe is sitting there like,
listen this Saudi Arabia shit. No, I don't because it's
not contemptuous enough. We are not treading on enough dangerous waters.
I think, well, I'm thinking maybe Royal Rumble, we go

(58:04):
to guys, we ask them to just, you know, just
plow out a couple of yards, like how many people
do you think we could get to watch the show?
Like maybe that's the next step. And then they have
no him dar when the Intercontinental.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Sure from Dominic? Yes from Dominic? Yes?

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Yes? Yes? Well no who from Sammy's aim? What Sammy's
am now, dude, Like, what the fuck? There's just I
don't know how we got here, but yes, ww I was.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
You were trying to figure out why some of these
people are still on the roster, and I offered some.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Well I'm I'm telling you right now Unfortunately, I think
you might have opened up can of worms there, Sir.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
I saw a post earlier too about what the Undertaker
said about Israel.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
I don't think it's no, no is this is that?
Really not?

Speaker 2 (58:57):
But it was. It was posted by I don't know
if I can find it, let me see it was.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
You know what, I was just thinking to myself, what
does the Undertaker think about in the Middle East? Of course,
I mean he's a very important nuanced ideas. I'm sure
you are. He's like, who's giving me more money?

Speaker 2 (59:18):
That's who I like, right, yeah, No, for sure. No,
I can't find the original post, but that's okay. So
what else is going on here? Sorry? I got to
get back to no.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
No, I mean, what are we going to What are
we get to say here? You can't not have a
conversation about if the Undertakers is filling us in on
the gods of strip right?

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Well, I mean they do make it a habit every
week now to promote all the WWE podcasts, and you
know they promoted Stephanie.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
And this week he had Benjamin Nett and yahu On
I think, right, sure was the Undertaker Michelle mc You
know what could you imagine that go hitting the news
cycle where they're like the Undertaker and Michelle McCool just

(01:00:08):
a name alone. I just said, should get should tickle
some people cool.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Because you're making a joke like that. But we forget
he had on Donald Trump. Oh yeah, of course, yeah,
it's not of course, it's all find the fuck with
Donald Trump to a wrestler's podcast, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Because these guys all knew when the podcasting ship was
going on during the election. They're like, these people are
useful idiots. We'll go fucking talk to them, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
No, Andrew Schultz will sit there and be like, yo, gee,
ah knew that you were a funky, fresh cool guy, yo,
and then like slap Donald Trump's knee, like yeah, funky
fresh homie, gee Doug.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Like I Meanwhile, you have Logan Paul having meaningful conversations
with Charlie fucking Sheen. All right, come on, man, there
is something wrong in Whosville tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
I have a good question actually when you think about it,
and this could be a one of those mind melters.
Oh boy, who do you think is actually more intelligent
like Baseline more intelligent Logan Paul or Andrew Schultz.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Oh, logan Paul, Yeah, I think I'm logan. Paul has
drifted so many people out of money. He's avoided government, well, prostitution,
maybe prosecution, maybe that too, multiple times in multiple different countries.
He's gotten thrown out of countries and found his way
back in. Yeah, logan Paul is a modern day fucking

(01:01:37):
Mussolini or something.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
He's before the age of thirty too, Like he's a
young lad having pulled all that off. Yeah, where's Where's
Andrew Schultz is like that guy? We was just like, yo, man,
taco cat backards this taco cat? Can you believe that? Gee?
Like you know, it's like, dude, you're a nerdy Jewish
guy from fucking New York City. Cut the shit, Jesus Christ.

(01:02:01):
He sucks, He fucking sucks. But no, people keep me
informed when we have The Undertaker with Benjamint, and that'll
be a good interview, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
No. Nine of five asked, have you have you seen
the new Charlie Sheen documentary on Netflix yet?

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
Joe, I No, I've I've seen it come up on
you know, come up on my feet a handful of time.
Do I need to know any more about this. I
have a good idea of what this guy's life was like.
He was, you know, graped a lot as a young guy,
and he got into drugs and he then did fucked
up ship and then he did all his age you

(01:02:38):
know stuff, and we were all talking tiger blood and
blah blah blah. I feel like I already know this story.
The only layers at this point that you can add
to it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
I was there for that, I was there for the tour.
I was still in college doing fucking internship stuff. Yeah
that was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Yeah, But like I feel like at this point, the
only layers you're going to add to the story are like,
this is Charlie was so fucked up, and we're like that, dude,
I already I could put it together, right, I could
put together why this guy was so fucked up. And
they're like yeah, and then he cleaned his life up,
and I'm like, well that's great. I'm glad that he's
rich and famous enough that he gets fifty seven chances.

(01:03:15):
Whereas most people just go to fucking prison.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
He gets away with burning hookers in the hotel room. Yeah, yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Seven people aids allegedly like shit like that, and then
we're like, listen, man, this is a story of redemption.
I'm like, for anybody else there in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Jail, Yeah, for anybody Actually, Oh fuss, did Emilio actually
say that? Did Emilio actually say that? Charlie's normal? Please?
I hope there's an actual quote from Emilios. Wasn't here? Yeah?
I know, he seems real normal to me. Oh okay,
all right, now, I was.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Gonna say, how did he get CCEE from Mighty Ducks?
He didn't even fucking play hockey yet.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
It was from young Guns be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Yeah, fuck, I guess all the really hard dancing in
the breakfast club might have shrambled his fucking brain. No,
Charlie's a normal guy. You don't given aids to porn
stars and fucking trying to kill people and being a
crack edge for twenty years. But at the end of
the day, you know, he puts his shoes on one

(01:04:16):
foot at a time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
One penis at a time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Yes, yeah, he puts his penis on one foot at
a time, all always, Yeah, what do we have? So?

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
The main event was the Tornado tag match between the
USOS and the Vision, Jimmy and Jay having their little
back and forth promo before that, which was kind of interesting,
Jay establishing some of that heel bloodline type dominance over
Jimmy where you can see Jimmy's taking aback because Jay,
I guess, isn't a full fledged heel, even though he's

(01:04:45):
literally being a heel every week now and everything that
he does. But he cuts himself off halfway through of
telling Jimmy that he'll never be a world champion and says,
but I love you, Oose, let's go do this shit.
And I was like, oh, okay, everything's forgiven. But obviously
they're planting the seeds for I don't know, are.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
These two Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Are they gonna fight again?

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
I have a fucking real fear that that's going to happen. Unfortunately,
they're gonna have a way for these guys to somehow
have a match again, and I don't like it. I
don't like the idea of it. Also, and this is
maybe almost a scarier prospect. They're gonna have him wrestle
Roman again. Oh well, yeah, he's gonna be a heel.

(01:05:32):
Jimmy's gonna be our Jay's gonna be a heel, and
he's gonna have to put heat on Roman, and everyone's
gonna go, God, that looks awful. Everybody that has eyes
is gonna go, oh, fuck, this looks bad. This looks
so fucking shitty.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
That was the big thing of the match was that
Roman came out. Everybody lost their shit.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Yeah, Austin Popp for fucking Roman reigns Now it only
took fifty years. Like he's finally getting the reaction they
want out of them and they're not seeing them all
the time. So yeah, I mean, Roman got a humongous
fucking reaction here. But I guess it also is it's
a reminder at this point, similarly to how they finally
made John Seno into a babyface and then he was

(01:06:17):
fifty and now he has to retire, right, It's like,
now we finally got Roman over and we see him
once every three weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
I guess maybe it's a It was an okay, raw dude,
And I mean I guess, you know, finishing up the
USO's defeat of the Vision.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Yeah, it's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
I I other than the Cody Seth stuff, everything was passable.
Everything was passible, and.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
I dom shit was great.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Yeah, that was great. Dominic versus Russa was great. I
enjoyed that as far as the matches go, and I'm
really a big fan of the EO storyline, just not
her acting. I think that's the weirdest thing, that the
main character is the worst actor out of everybody, Like everybody,
I just don't think she understands what the story is

(01:07:03):
for a pained face. Like if she was in the
position of Osca and Oscar was supposed to be the
baby face in this position that she was stuck in
between EO and Kyrie and stuff, I think EO and
OSCO would excel brilliantly because Osca has that connection with
the audience on that level. And I think Osca understands
how to manage her character because she's so good at both.

(01:07:27):
She's good as a face and she's great as a heel.
And I think EO as a heel's always been interesting
to me. She just she naturally feels to me like
she belongs as a heel. I don't. I've complained about
this before. I just don't buy her as a babyface.
I just don't. There's something about Eosky that says, this
bitch wants to be evil for real, you know, I

(01:07:50):
just well, I.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Think she's a great babyface, but I think that they
should go with the They should probably have gone more
with the angle of toughness as opposed to you know,
this is my family.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
I did laugh, though, and tell me if you laughed too,
I'm sure somebody else did. When she was in the
back and she had all the mist on her, and
the blonde em t or whatever is like rubbing her
in the eyes and she's like, can you see? You
can't see? And I swear to god, her next line was,
have you tried opening your eyes? And I will rubbing

(01:08:30):
her eyes and EO's eyes are open, and she's she's
just screaming at her.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
By the way, Zone act like they don't know what
they're doing by making the Japanese people use blue missed yes,
of course, go ahead blue.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
Well, they didn't want to do red because that would
be too gory. It's scared o.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
No, no, no, But how are you going to say blue? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
I don't know blue. That's how That's how I said.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
I mean as a hatch.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
The yeah, that's how I mean. As a half Japanese guy,
I would say blue. Right. Well, I'm just saying how
how how is how am I supposed to say that?

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Well, let's just say it might sound like somebody ordering
a cup of jew Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
You mean coffee, would you?

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
I'm coffee colored.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Oh no, well you know how you make a coffee, right,
how do you make?

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
You gotta you gotta brew it? Oh, you gotta brew it?

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Yeah? What color?

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
What color is in this blow?

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Yes, but come on, I just dangerously they're dangerously treading
that water. I think they do that on but you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
I think they do that on purpose, just to get
the nods like the I see what you did there?

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
Yeah, well, I really feel like I said, instead of
you yeah exactly, instead of her being like you're tearing
me apart. I really think it would have been better
had it been that I'm trying to get into Rhea's
face or fucking with Rio, and then Eo stepping between

(01:10:07):
right and looking and being like, you know, Rihea doesn't
need my help. Obviously, she's a fucking beast. She's an
ask kidd, you know, but she should be in that moment,
be like, she's still my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
But they had Kyrie out there to make the odds
an even so it forced Eo Sky's hand to get it,
you know, you know what I mean, it forced her
hand to get involved with this, because you can't just
have one damaged child in that scenario. You have to
have two. Oh hey, thanks, and get some people up
the block with all the guns.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
I'm gonna say, is this the start? Are you gonna
start playing a reggaetone song? I know we were talking
about Bad Bunny earlier, Benny, it's wonderful city. I know
we should get out of here. But also shout out
to once again to Bad Bunny. I mean, fucking congrats
him forgetting that halftime show. For sure.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
I'm sure he really pays attention to wrestling soup on Tuesdays.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Well, I'm just saying, I hope I'm congratulating him because
I remember when he first showed up on www S.
There was a lot of fucking dorks, like, who's this guy?
He's not even fucking famous, he's not cool, Like, uh,
I don't know who. The Fox shows up on a
w Rick Ross.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Oh, that wasn't a fire engine, by the way, that
was one of those fire police people. So it's a
it's a police car with the fire colors on it.
But they do police shit.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
So what do they do? Shoot guns at the fire?
Is that what they do?

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
No, they just shoot foam at people. You want a
little foam on your lip, I can foam your coffee.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Or do they plant drugs on the fire? Is that
what they do?

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Yes, that's that's what they do. Because we all know
the fire's guilty. It just hasn't left the city yet.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
Listen, I know that fire did something wrong, and it's
just like, that's not how we operate here in the city.
Pal he planted blow on the fire. See it's raise
your head just.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Behind the whole of the tree.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Now, yeah, you're like, listen, I can't get shorter, but
I can get taller, like higher up. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
No, I'm really fucking happy, dude. I got myself in
the new ship Man Konatsu Man T shirt, So I'm
very fucking I know you have no idea what the
fuck I'm talking about, but it was a T shirt
that I wanted for a while and I'm like, oh,
this is nice.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
But yeah, anyway, what well, what color is it? Is? It? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Go on, it's kin Tatsu Man, right, so like a
missed Yeah it's Japanese. So yeah, no, it's a Japanese color, Joe.
That's what it is, Japanese like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
A beautiful rising like gun.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
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(01:13:19):
very end of this journey of young athletes, and I'm
really looking forward to seeing what the Fisto and Jeff
Lipman have to say about it. And then of course
we've got Oh, no pay per view is next weekend?
Oh thank god, that's right. I thought it was like,
it's not Oh, I thought it was a Saturday. Isn't
it October eleventh or something like that?

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Folks, Folks, somebody pay attention to wrestling more than I
was in the chat room.

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