HOW REAL IS UNREAL (Wrestling Soup 7.31.25)w/ @LuFisto

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Wrestling too for a mature audience.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I don't develop it, Lussic soup.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
I am Anthony Thomas. Join along with a pioneer, a trailblazer,
the hardcore icon for over twenty five years, just broken
barriers and bones, defining a generation of wrestling. And you
know her as the first Lady of hardcore and the
wounded owl. Who fisto? What's going on?

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Hello? Hello, I'm good. I'm tired as always. It's all right,
we'll fix that eventually.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
I guess it's Thursday. The week's almost over. You got
one more day of work and then you get the weekend, right.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, and work at home. And this weekend is Summer Slam.
So I don't have anything besides like maybe a little
bit of graphic work on my own shows because I'm stupid,
and I have a promotion. So it's coming fast. I
mean it's it's September. But when you when you promote shows,
you gotta think way in advance. And I gotta start

(01:15):
like promoting like the matches and stuff. It's like it
never ends. And then I'm like, why am I doing this?
I mean, I'm still doing it, so I will never learn.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
So for people that don't know you run women's wrestling
syndicate and you formally used to run was it in
two thousand and nine, the ncw FM Fetales.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, so i've there's actually I kind of ran ish.
I say ish because I was never the booker because
I don't believe in booking and wrestling at the same time.
I think these should be like separate. So I kind
of founded one that would call in French it's SECS

(01:58):
and Fiminin, which is a women's wrestling association, if you will.
And that lasted for a while, but it was really
hard back then, that's like two thousand and six, and
it was tough to get talent because the talent was
so spreaded in different states and provinces and stuff, so

(02:18):
you needed like a budget, like a Shamer budget to
run that. So that was rough. And then after with
fam Fatal in two thousand and nine, like we had
an agreement we were like sharing talent with Shimmer and stuff,
so that was a little bit easier. And I had

(02:39):
also like a division when I lived in the States,
it was Rogue Women Warriors, so I was taking care
of the females of the It was like a mixed show,
if you will. But I was in charge of the
women's division, and when everything kind of stopped for me

(02:59):
as a rest, I was like, I have all this knowledge,
I don't know what to do with it, and I
don't want it. My greatest fear, I think it's, you know,
to have things go to waste, whether it's experience or whatever.
It's like, it's like I have all this and I
need to do something with it. And what I love

(03:21):
the most in wrestling, even more than you know being
in a ring myself, is being an agent and kind
of guiding and get the matches together. And you know,
since I wasn't fortunate enough to get a job doing that,
I kind of created my own with my own promotion.

(03:41):
And now I do that, like I help the girls
set up their matches. I put up the structure together,
so every match is different and they tell a different story.
Because it took me a while to understand what was wrestling,
and it's all now that I know, Like it's all
about moments and what the people leave with when they

(04:03):
go home. You know, it's the story of the match whatever.
I feel like I'm good at teaching that two people
and when I started like it was the days of
we'll beat you up until we see you're tough enough,
no pun intended, and then we'll give you some secrets.

(04:23):
So it was taking a lot longer to be a
decent worker and you know, get it completely, especially being
the only girl like it was, so it was long
for me to get that knowledge. So I try to
do my best and kind of share it, and you know,
it's it's it's kind of a what I wish I

(04:45):
had back then. So yeah, that's basically why I'm doing it.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
And well, I mean that's that's the interesting point because
there's like a lot of things that actually circle that
topic wise that we're going to talk about too, because
the spec actually running your own promotion obviously, if people
haven't heard you do LFG, the review show, Wrestling stew
cook it, oh man, I'll never get this right, cook it,
fry it, and you do it with Jeff Lipman. It's fantastic.

(05:16):
I think a lot of people are sleeping on the
LFG show. I feel like it's a better version of
the tough enough back in the day, you know, because
it's it's got the perspective of obviously taker Michelle McCool,
Booker T and Bubba Ray and you guys cover that.
But the interesting thing too is WWE Unreal just dropped

(05:37):
on Netflix too, And I guess looking at it from
having a hands on perspective of doing your own promotion
and then looking at what they show us, where are
the discrepancies? Right like for LFG And this is what
we were kind of alluding to when I was talking
to you about it before the show was a lot

(06:00):
your Holy Field got into a fight. Oh my god,
I forgot the other kid's name, Drake Moreau. Yeah, Drake Moreau. Right,
they got into a fight because the whole episode was surrounding,
you know, flipping the script, being the opposite of yourself,
and they really wanted to see fire coming from from

(06:20):
both of them. Really, they wanted to see a different level, right,
And they did that in the ring and it was fantastic.
And you see Undertaker and everybody having these wild reactions
and it's like, Okay, they're cheesing it up for the
cameras and I get that. And then they brought this
storyline over into the back where they were still shoving

(06:42):
each other after the match, and I'm thinking to myself,
I'm like, well, if this is trying to present wrestling
in a more realistic sense, why would they go with
the silliness that these two guys actually just don't like
each other.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Now, that's the question I was asking. So I feel
it's more to bring something, you know, for the viewer
that's not really into wrestling but into TV reality, like
because they you need a cliff hearer to watch the
following week and something needs to happen for you to

(07:18):
tune in the next week. The only problem, and this
is something we address in the last episode of LFG.
They will start a story, something will happen, and then
they'll be like two shows not mentioning what happened. Like
two shows ago, there's that girl, Tatiana who was in
the ring, and then we hear that she got injured,

(07:41):
but probably she was stiff with the other girl. So
we're like, Okay, what happened, what did change or whatever.
It's been two shows now we still don't know, Like
we have no fucking clue what happened. And you're like, uh, okay,
and then they bring four new people and then the
following week is uh, it's three new people, but then

(08:03):
one that's there like again you're like, uh so I
don't know them. The pacing, I don't know if it's
been I don't know how it was like film, Like
was it the few episodes in a few days or
is it you know, once a week or I have
no clue. I feel it's faster than that, but nothing

(08:26):
like I don't know, like I feel Total Divas was well.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah, no, well and that's what I was going to
ask you too, because like I mean that that's the
correlation right there is you're doing this yourself. You've got
the women that you're working with with WWS, and you're
constantly their coach or their confidence, You're showing them what
to do in the ring, and then you look at
the trainers in this reality show and it's like how

(08:53):
realistic is this? Like is it is it more like
you just brought up the Total Divas ask where it's
just all scripted and they're just playing roles or is
this kind of like how you know people act? Is
this is this kind of how the wrestlers behave sometimes
or how the coaches train.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
I mean, there's like really interesting I would say advice
that they will they will talk about like when your Babyface,
you need to have fire or I'm trying to think
other things that they said, like you got to work together.
It's really important, like a match. You can't do a
match by yourself. It's teamwork and all that stuff. So

(09:38):
they will have those coaching moments we're really good, and
then we go to a match. We don't see them working.
How do we how do they put that dismatch together?
You just see kind of the final product that's edited
as well. You don't know if they fucked up or
they will show one fuck up or two here and there.

(09:58):
The kind of have thinking like, oh, this is real
or this is can happen. But it's like I feel
what would make this show really more interesting? Like I
would like to know what takers telling them when they
sit up the match. What's how does he seem like?
He asked, he has those two person in front of him,

(10:20):
what's the story he wants to tell? And then he
explains to them the why and where and everything, But
we don't see that, And I'm like, this is the
things that I want to see because it makes wrestling interesting.
And that's why, Like I just watched the first episode
of Unreal and I was like this is more interesting

(10:41):
because you know as a.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Well, that's what I was going to ask you, is
how real is unreal in comparison to LFG, And how
real is unreal in comparison to what you do?

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Well? What looking at unreal? I see things that happens
in my locker room because of course it's a bigger
locker room in terms of budget, TV all that stuff,
but it's still wrestlers and agents and stories and time
you have to respect and all the things you have

(11:14):
to listen to when you have to go out and
do a match. And it shows that wrestling is a
I think Triple H mentions it in the first episode
is like wrestling is so much more than two guys
or two girls fighting. There's a lot more work behind
the match than you would think. And that's something we
don't see at LFG. Would make it like so interrestling
because when you're new, how difficult it is to bring

(11:38):
all these things because yes, there's the moves, but the
things you do in between are even more important. Why
you got to tell and why do you have to
slow down so people see and enjoy everything you do
and they can follow you and you know, kind of
feel your pain or be mad at you. They have
to see and they have to hear you as well.

(11:59):
If they can't see your pain, they need to hear it,
especially if you're the baby face, because you want to cheer,
you know, you want to get behind them. There's all
those reasons. And in LFG, we don't see that. I
felt it was a little bit more like it was
better and unreal because we see Wee or Ripley having
a panic attack and trying and dealing with her injury

(12:22):
and being out and Triple Ah telling her it's part
of the business and whatever. Yeah, and we see, like
I thought, it was really more into wrestling to show
like how hard wrestling is and how how many like
there's so many layers to a wrestling match and to
a feud and everything that goes into it. And so yeah,

(12:46):
I prefer so far like I have. Of course, I
only watched the first one.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, but well, the first episode was fantastic. I watched
two episodes. I'm like halfway through the third episode, and
I know that there's people that already binge watch all
the episodes in an evening, you know, and good for them.
I'll catch the rest. But the first episode they really
focused on. I think the episode titled was New Era,
and I thought it was interesting because they would have

(13:14):
the wrestlers kind of introduce themselves, Like Triple H introduced
himself and he's like, they're shooting act, but people call
me Triple H. They call me trips. You know. I
think he like made a joke to like they call
me asshole or something like that. I don't even know,
but he was just kind of running it down, and
I thought it was weird. It was like these these

(13:34):
one on one worked shoot as a street fighter put
in the chat. It was like a work shoot or
whatever it was, but they were talking. It felt candidly
to the camera, which was something that I don't get
in LFG too much, which is kind of sad because
I would like to see these kids in that raw format.
But the things that I was really impressed with with

(13:57):
that first episode was the gorilla position stuff. And they
explained the gorilla position, which I think everybody already knows,
but it was Peyton Manning's production team that went in
there and had like the overhead camera and you're watching
everything get built. You're watching hundreds of people running back
and forth like little ants, and like every time that

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they would pass the camera, something new would be built up,
and it was just amazing the process because it's like
things like that to me are amazing. I love the
physical mechanics that this company does in order to put
on a show every fuck it like two three times
a week. And it's beautiful to watch that. And so
I'm sitting there and then they're going into what the

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gorilla position means and they got a picture of Gorilla
Monsoon in the backdrop there, which was, you know, really heartfelt.
It was touching and stuff explaining where everything came from.
But the breakdown of the wrestlers of like Cody Rhodes
and Ria Ripley, they did Bianca Belair, they did jay
Uso in episode two, like it was. It was interesting

(15:02):
because everybody felt very disarmed. Charlotte Flair. I saw the
Charlotte Flair Want two, which that throws me into a
whole different tangent that I won't get into. But you know,
it's it's it's it's really wild to see them like
this and and how realistic do you think their presentation
is versus what is actually happening.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
I think I will have to watch all these episodes,
like the first episode like CM Punk is CEM Punk,
Like he's he's himself, like he's not a character. Yeah,
So to me, it was like, Okay, that's the same
guy I spoke to when I was either on the
same show or met him somewhere or whatever. Right, And
I didn't feel I didn't feel like there was anything

(15:47):
that was really I mean there were things that were
stage of course to show this aspect of the business,
this aspect like it was not.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Curious, I mean without blowing up everybody's thing. But yeah,
like no, please and incite me because I when I
watched that, for the most part, like the fan reactions
and stuff, obviously that's because that's what they're appealing to,
like they're One of the episodes had Cody doing the
signings for kids and like, obviously it's very heartfelt to

(16:17):
see these kids, just like, I love you, Cody Rhoades,
You're the greatest in the world. And then there's one
where you know, kid's telling John Cena how to book
the Royal Rumble and he's like, oh, that's an idea,
like you know, and it's stuff like that where it's like,
of course they're they're pandering a little bits of the kids.
But what is it that I'm missing? What is it

(16:37):
that I wouldn't see?

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Well, I don't know. You know, they were like really
focusing on the time of the last match, and they
really spend a lot of time showing us like they're
going over, we need to cut this whatever, And I mean,
it happens all the time, but was it really something
that was supposed to happen? Where the guys really going over?

(17:02):
You know, these are questions that I all ask myself.
But it makes sense because it always happens. But if
it was regular TV, they would be two minutes forty
five I think that's the number over time, and they
you couldn't see the last part of the match, So
I was like, is it Because it's Netflix, so they
kind of allow and there's cameras too, so they allow

(17:24):
this to show. You know that people do go over
their time, and that's why sometimes we need to cut
because how many times do you heard like, oh, this
match was cut short or this one was completely canceled
from a WrestleMania because somebody else went over. Well that's
how it happens, and that's why we need to cut

(17:46):
time because someone else went over. When it's the main event,
I mean, it's not as bad. But if you're on
TV for Saturday night main event, guess what. Goldberg got
his fucking match cut in his speech and there was
like a weird uh commercial like right after the finish.
So as for us in Canada, everything was like on YouTube,

(18:08):
so it wasn't as as bad, right, But I mean
for everybody else, it's like one two three yay commercial,
So you know, it kind of explained that. But I
would say like evil IFG is something like I think
it's the first episode, like Booker t really snaps that
because oh, you know, they're going to vote together because

(18:31):
they're married, and then he snaps and then you're like
that that felt so forced and fake. That was like, oh,
come on man. And then like the last episode, they
fight and then it goes to the back and it's
like they told them to be intense and it is.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
I was like, yeah, but intense doesn't mean corny, like
you know.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, so I was like, you know, or the girl
that got in like there was really nothing in the
match and you you don't see her holding like a thing.
You're like, okay, it's just like fake TV reality to
show that we do get injured, and these are things

(19:14):
they want to show people. But I feel they're not
focusing on the right things, like they should be focusing
on how do we set up the match and how
like seeing the kids like going through you know, the
motions of trying to get a freaking match together and
it makes sense and.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, I was gonna say, and that was one of
my things too. It's like, these kids are still learning
how to wrestle. How are they putting together a match
by themselves, right, because that's kind of agents. Oh I know,
but they don't talk about that on LFG. They don't.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Oh yeah, we don't. We don't know who put the
match together, although like I can't remember it's the last episode,
the one before Undertaker, Like I think it's the one
before Undertaker goes like I failed you, blah blah blah.
Like so I feel like he didn't tell the right
story with whatever they the assignment was of that that

(20:12):
that show and it was like okay, so they they're
kind of telling them what to do, but then the
kids are micromanage and they can't really learn, Like the
best way to learn is to go out there gets reps,
like in front of crowds of thirty of one hundred
or whatever, and you just go through the motion and

(20:33):
when something happens, you got to figure out right away.
You're in front of people, you fuck up, what's next?

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Right?

Speaker 1 (20:39):
And it's like it struggles. We don't see because everything
is so planned and I don't know if they edit it.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
So it makes it's very homogenized. It really is.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Feel Yeah, I feel and with with Unreal Uh, it's
wrestlers that have experience. Most of them have been on
the n d's. They have their own personalities. They're not
being told to be this or that. I'm like real
replays rear replay right, you go at a replace and

(21:14):
she explained what she's into whatever.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
I loved. I loved her part of the story where
she said, I'm a nervous wreck and getting into the matches.
I'm just DEMI, you know, like I'm not real Ripley.
But as soon as the music hits, there's like a
switch in her head that flips and all of a sudden,
she just changes her personality. And it's like I could
almost understand that, right, I've never been in that position
where you know, I directly get the call to come

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down and wrestle, But even with the show, even when
we were talking about that a few minutes, even before
the show, as soon as you start the intro, as
soon as I say, hey, it's wrestling soup, you know,
Anthony Missionary Thomas takes control and just regular Anthony is
like in the back burner. So it's like it's it's
almost a it's game face time and I love that.

(21:59):
The the other thing I wanted to bring up though, too,
when you're bringing up the time, I think Bruce Pritchard
was one of the people that was saying, you know, look,
now it's on Netflix, we can go two, three, four
hours if we want. And it's kind of funny because
I've been watching obviously everybody's been watching Raw on Netflix,
but they don't utilize that there hasn't been a four

(22:21):
hour Raw. Not that I'm looking forward to it on
a weekly basis, but it's like they talk about having
this open ended timing system, which you would think in
the context that they were talking about obviously with Sampunk's
match going too long, and they're like, oh, he's got
to get rid of the Anacon device, and I thought
that that might have been a little bit story, a
little bit planned there that they're freaking out like, oh

(22:44):
my god, he's ten seconds over or whatever. And I'm
thinking to myself, I'm like, but if they're doing this
on Netflix, why does anybody fucking care? They don't have
any FCCO to appeal.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
You know, why, huh? Because wrestling fan have a limited
attention span. How how many times are you gonna watch
a pay per view that's gonna go four and that
you'll be into the show, the full show without looking
somewhere else, doing something on your phone, go pee, take
a shit, whatever you do. Right, You can't like over

(23:16):
two hours and a half, usually like three hours max.
Like you will lose some of the people like interest
or it's yeah, attention, Like it's too long. You can't
stay focused on something for that long. It's the best
wrestling shows are usually two hours. And everybody remember smack

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Down when they went three hours. Everybody's like, oh my god,
two hours was just perfect. It was one thing after another,
boom boom boom. Okay it's over. You're like, oh god,
I want more. You got to leave them with a
little something. It fits too long then no, and you
don't want that. You want to keep your product fresh.
You want people to tune in the following week. You

(24:00):
don't want to tire them. And I was like, not
this ship on them again? But aw, like, what was
the last paper you five or six hours?

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Right? Oh?

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Fuck that? Like no, like and even like I love concerts,
if I have to stay up for more than three hours,
fuck it.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
I was like I no.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
When I was fourteen, but I went to Montreal, okay,
and there was a part where I was like, Okay,
let's go see Stove, Panthers and Black Let's go. And
then I was like, okay, right now, let's just okay.
Slash is playing school. I'll watch from the field sitting
down drinking because I can't take it anymore. And then

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like an tracks came in and that was hell and
I ended up into U the War Dance and the
Wall of Death and I did all this ship and
then oh, Slayer, it looks like a battle people.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
I remember those that, like the Milwaukee metal fests, and
it's just like, here's twelve hours of music. There's two stages.
Good luck, folks. It's like, oh shit, And that was
always the worst part and I mean, I know we're sidetracking,
but literally having to try and run from one stage
to the other through like a crowd of a million
fucking people, and everybody's trying to either run to the bathroom,

(25:28):
run to beer, or run to the other stage with beer.
You know, it's just.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, and the bathroom's like the But you're right.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
I was like, that's a good point. Maybe I didn't
even think I didn't even think about that. That maybe
the reason that they cut those short, those matches short. Still,
even though they don't have to like WWE doesn't have
to do shit on Netflix, they potentially could run a
four hour show. But I saw Cody Diva in the
chat was saying like, hey, maybe it's a production cost

(25:57):
issue too. I guess I didn't think about that either,
because obviously, yeah, they're paying for all that. Netflix is
paying for it too, so that that's all coming out
of somewhere. Somebody's working overtime at that point.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Wait, wait a second, Like I see Eddie of Valentino
says eight hours the pay per view.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Oh yeah, the last one eight hours? Yeah probably if
you include their pre show too.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, no, Like I'll work for eight hours, as I
get paid, but fuck no, no, I love and I
love wrestling. I love wrestling. I will watch like wrestling
stuff all day, but not the same fucking thing back
to back to back, like no, I need I need
a break. I was like, fuck no.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
Yeah, so that's a good point. I guess I didn't
think about that, but yeah, Bruce was talking about that
when he was talking about the times, so I guess
I'm trying to think of what else might have been
kind of silly. The Triple H oh Okay, that was
another big one too that I would love to know
if if you feel this was legit or was this
kind of hammed up? But when they had CM Punk

(27:02):
talking about coming back to WWE, and they showed CM
Punk saying that he was in a bad head space,
et cetera, et cetera, and he was like he wasn't
happy at the time when he left, and then they
showed Triple H and Triple H said, yeah, I reached
out a couple of times over the years, and every
time I talked to him, like he was still you know,

(27:24):
angry and bitter, and I just didn't want to deal
with that fucking guy. Like do you think they were
playing that up or do you think they really kind
of felt that way like that was legit feeling?

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Well, I yeah, I feel it was legit. I mean
I feel the stories probably longer than this, so it
was like kind of a quick way to explain it. Yeah,
like they didn't go into details.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, they didn't talk about doctor Amon or any of
that shit.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
No, yeah, no, but it it made sense. Like no,
I mean Cmpunk like was angry, uh and I feel
for a while he hated yeah, and yeah, so yeah,
I can believe that was it like fast forward, like
one guy the other guy, and like quickly we tell

(28:11):
the story. Oh definitely, there's probably a lot more details
that could be pretty interesting about how everything went down
between Triple Agency and Punk, But I mean the overall thing,
I'm like, yeah, I mean it's pretty much it.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Because they even highlighted later on they had like a
point where him and Gunther are standing there and they're
talking in the back and you know, it was after
WrestleMania afterwards, where he's like, this is what I wanted,
this is what I always wanted, And it's like, I
guess I just don't understand that from a fans perspective.
I mean, you can look at it and obviously being
the main event of WrestleMania is a huge deal, you know,

(28:50):
once upon a time, not only financially, but it clearly
set the tone for your career. And he's like, you know,
this is something I've wanted for what he said, like
fourteen years or whatever else like that, and it's like,
is that really been a real thing that you've been
chasing all this time? Like I I sometimes question the
validity of it because from the outside, and maybe there's

(29:13):
a little bit of like a a a sarcasm tone
with when it comes to it, like is he being
honest with that or is that really just like that
really wasn't the problem. The problem was, you know, he
was fed up with the way that the company treated
I mean he literally said at one point, you know,
they would have used me every day till I dropped dead,

(29:34):
you know.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I mean, it's probably a little bit of everything, but
from my own experience and other like seeing wrestlers for
you know, in locker rooms for twenty nine years, there's
always like that that goal that you like, especially somebody
who dreams about you know, wrestling being their everyday life,

(29:59):
it makes sense. It's like, Okay, maybe they made it
about WrestleMania, but maybe it was more about I want
to pay my bills with this, I want to be
on camera. I want to be the main guys. It
all depends on Like Arnold Schwarzenegger always talks about the vision,
having the vision, so a lot of people, like in wrestling,

(30:22):
they do have this ultimate goal vision that they will
make it to WW Like when I started, it was
to make it a WWE, and unfortunately I was born
in the in a year where that's that was not
possible for somebody like me because it was the divas era.

(30:46):
And even if like I was like my vision, like
I wanted to be there, and it's it's like I
wanted to prove that women could do it or whatever
at the time that I was the right age at
that moment, that was not was they were they were
looking for. And back then I was told like, oh,

(31:07):
I was too violent for TV, I was too thick
for TV. The inner gender matches I was that I
was doing. Uh, it was bad if somebody found that
on TV, everything was wrong with me. And now today
they hire people that been doing basically the same thing.
But it doesn't matter any but back then it was

(31:30):
like but I still have that vision that I wanted
to work there because it was the biggest promotion. And
back then, sorry, my cats are fighting, that's.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
No no problem. I got to of them on my own.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
They always fight, so so yeah, so you know you
want to make it, you want to. And nowadays what's
great with wrestlers, like you can pretty much make a
living with the indies because there are so many of
them and indie promotions. Now I have access to pay
per views online and there's there's so much more with

(32:04):
the internet. But back then, like it was, it was
WWF and I met with w CW and like two
weeks later that Japanese match happened and they kind of
cancel the women's division they were planning, like so I
was like fuck it. And then like there was something

(32:24):
about like ECW and then like final problems and everything
went to shit. So when it's not meant to be,
it is what it is. But yes, go.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Ahead, no, no, And to pickyback off of that, obviously,
WWE just had evolution. You know, you did the post
show with us. It was fantastic, And now looking at it,
and I've really noticed in the last few weeks, especially
on Raw, the women's matches have really fucking ramped up.

(32:55):
I don't know what it is. I don't know if
there's a new life in the women's division, but the
mixed tags matches, the straight tag matches, like not even
just the stories that they have, which they're focusing on too,
but the actual combat, the physicality of the women's matches
seems to have really ramped up. I mean, I was

(33:18):
somebody actually sent me the Pipernivin slamming the shit out
of Nikki on the mat on Monday. It's like these
matches would have never happened when Nicki was on top
of the world with the Butterfly belt, and you know,
Alba Fire and Piper Nivin are usually standing in the back,
and I thought they had a fantastic showing. Stephanie ver
Kurz kind of put a new foot forward, like Rio

(33:40):
Ripley's on fire, EO's on fire, Like all of a sudden,
these women feel rejuvenated. Do you think there's something to
that evolution show that maybe had changed the direction of
the way the women were allowed to wrestle, Because I
don't know, and you would probably see a lot more
of this than I would because I'm not sure where

(34:02):
it's coming from. But I'm actually a lot more excited
to watch the women's wrestling matches now because they feel
they feel more honest. It's a lot less hair pulling
and slapping, and it seems like girls going out there
and throwing some some meat around.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
You know, well look at Seamus and Russa and they
go out there with the shit out of each other.
People going that's you. You're like, okay, that's how it works. Yes,
that's how it works. But honestly, in the past weeks months,
like women had more stories, like you know, you had
Bianca with the turn of Naomi, that's like was uh,

(34:40):
it was like on a long like it took a
long stretch before she got to the championship, but there
was an actual story. And then there's there's something with
EO going on, and I feel like people are more
attached to the characters as well. And the girls now
are getting so good that they're getting more popular or

(35:04):
as popular as the male figures, and they're they're starting
to sell as much merchandise, so that talks to management.
There's like, okay, now, like the stars Triple H says,
isn't unreal, Like he tells Rhea Ripley like, you're one
of the most over people here, and he's like, I'm
not talking for the women, He's like of everybody.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah, that was a hell of a compliment. I was like, wow,
I mean, because I mean to say in private is
one thing, but they knew they were being filmed, and
I don't know, man, that was that was really big
of Triple H because that was you know what. That
wasn't even Triple H. That was Paul saying it to
to DEMI, you know what I mean, Like that was

(35:47):
I was like, God, damn, dude, that was a hell
of a compliment.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
But he as a superstar said Roland is not how
good is raw these days?

Speaker 3 (35:57):
You're not wrong. It's funny all the people that give
a shit because Joey calls out seth Rawlins will call
out seth Rawlins on some of the silliness and the
stuff that he didn't a girl. Yeah, yeah, bird Girl's
not doing great. I look, there's a lot of people
that you know, gave me flack for a conversation about

(36:19):
bird Girl. But I felt sad for the Becky beaters. Yeah,
that was Lord. There you go, Phil, Phil throws up
in the chick.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
I used to wear that when the Spiders girls were
over in nineteen ninety.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
And black socks with them. Come on, who wears baby
blue shoes and black socks? Like? What the no?

Speaker 1 (36:46):
But it's like picnic designs.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
It was really ugly, man, And I don't know why
she was so proud of it. And she didn't have
her wings either, Like look, I think a lot of
people think that we're trashing on Lirah the person, and
I never not at all. Matter of fact, I think
what's the news that kind of broke with her is
she's getting her her boyfriend or fiance and he was
at the tryouts the other day. And I honestly think

(37:14):
that's cute. I think that's cute that a couple is
in wrestling together, right, Like I I've always been pro
relationships and wrestling. I think a lot of them turn
out well, the ones that do game.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
But okay, here's my butt, not my butt to tease,
but the But I mean, if if the boyfriend is
a great worker and he can go in there and
you know, do the job fine, right, but he forgets

(37:47):
in there before someone else who's better because he's the boyfriend.
Then I have a problem like.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
Using his girlfriend or fiance's position. I got you.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah, I mean, if you're if you're good, and.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Does that happen a lot? Does that happen a lot anymore?

Speaker 1 (38:04):
It's a it's a lot. It's it's a lot about
who you know. And if somebody's in power doesn't like you,
or has somebody else they want to put in front
of you, they will, which is the politics side. And
I mean everybody talked about Ogan, but that's one thing
about him that really bothered me, the politics, and and

(38:26):
you know, the Undertaker's story with the chair is just
like anyway, we could talk about this for a long time.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
No, no, for sure. And that's what I was That's
what I was curious about, because like I mean, obviously
we all know about the politics of the eighties and
the nineties, and obviously Hulk Hogan was.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
It's still there today less but it's it's still there there.
It's still there. All all you need. It's one person
to make you but also want to destroy you, which
is sad because it should be about what can you
bring to the company, Can you be an asset, Can
you help other people? Can you make people look like
a million bucks? If you answer all these questions by yes,

(39:05):
I'm like, even if one person keeps talking about you,
at least you should get a look at because if
you're that good, there has to be a reason for it.
And sometimes like I mean, I keep seeing those big shoes,
thank you guys. So yeah, it still happens. And I
mean it's it's an entertainment business. It's gonna happen. In music,

(39:29):
it's gonna happen, and you know anything that has to
do with acting in films.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
So I'm a wrestling needs more than that though, you
know what I mean, Like you can't just take you
can't tank abb at it anymore. You can't just bring
in a dude and throw them out there and say, oh,
because you know Sean Michaels, there you go. There's the
main event of WrestleMania, like the people.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
But I feel like in I mean throughout oh Man
seth rollins, I can't see I lost my thought, thank you.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
No, No, it was basically we're talking to her.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Boots.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah. So on the other side of things too, like
with Lyra, you know, I it was never a personal thing.
But I've just never understood the appeal of Lyra and
for some reason, when I'm sitting there praising how the
women's wrestling is really ramped up. And I'm not saying
she's a bad wrestler at all.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
I think she's she's good, she's having good matches. It's
just that a babyface. You need to care about the babyface.
You need to you need to find a little bit
of yourself in them so you can understand their pain,
their struggle, and you want to cheer for them. With her,
it's so one note that I feel you can't really

(40:52):
find anything that's gonna you know, why would I cheer
for her? You know, I can't find the why right
so that I have no no interests. Really, it's yeah,
it's just like one note, and if there's nothing new,

(41:13):
I feel it's always the same thing, and nothing happened
that made me really care about what she was trying
to accomplish. I don't know much about her backstory.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Other than Be's biggest fan.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
You know, like, yeah, Becky's biggest fan, and she got
in thanks to Becky. But I don't know, like I
and I'm not asking for like long vignettes about oh,
please don't tell me it's your dream again. I get that.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yeah, I know I heard your thoughts on that. On
LFT they they rehash that promo with it seems like
every wrestler, it's my dream to be in WWE. It's
everybody's dream. That was what you said. It's everybody's dream.
That's there.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Exactly, and everybody like you you you, you are there,
You've reached that dream. We know. Okay, fine, now what's next.
I want to prove I'm the best. I want to
get the championship. I want to beat everybody's ass, like,
give me fire, give me something. I was like, yeah right,

(42:27):
it's like you know that's what I need. So yeah,
because she like, I dreamed this all my life, my
biggest dream, and also oh, I would like you to
be my friend or the fucking worst.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
It was kind of sad because on that LFG show
it was it was it Hayes. No, it was the
other girl, not Hayes. It was Summer right that came
out there and she spoke about how her mother was
sick and she was, you know, she almost passed away
from cancer, and how w W was always her dream
and I think Jeff was the one that said he's

(43:05):
like it almost felt disingenuous because she attached that corniness
of WWE as my dream to something that really did
happen in her life. So instead of people being more
invested in her as baby face because here she's overcoming
this horrible thing and her mother's overcoming this horrible thing,

(43:25):
it turned into stock promo number five.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
You know, it would have been a great vignette too, like,
you know, my mother had cancer and that was tough
and I almost gave up, but I'm still here. And
now when you go in the ring, like my mother's
here to remind me that I can kick ass and
I can do whatever I want to blah blah blah,
and then you're fired up, right then you need to
switch you know, the the the freaking like I'm here

(43:53):
to be somebody and fucking kick ass and take names
and whatever. That's that's the kind of romo you need
to do in the ring and needs to be like
thirty forty seconds because if you're there for two minutes,
but as a vignette, just so we learn why you're
doing this and who's your inspiration? Where do you come from?

(44:14):
I'm fine with that. It's it gives me a background
of who you are. But once you're in the ring,
get the crowd riled up, like don't put them to sleep,
or like oh, where's a tissue? Buler would cry, and
and like you said, mixing two things like oh, the
dream and my mother, there's like he should not go together.
I mean, your mother having that's a tragic fucking thing,

(44:37):
and your dream it's it's cute, like go for it
and you can do it, but it's yeah, it doesn't
go together. It's like, oh, give me love and give
me pity too and whatever.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
It's like, so I want to hit this too. Dave
Meltzer chimed in about WWE unreal, and yeah, the whole.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
Show is very clearly designed. Someone who was involved, very involved,
said the idea was that they were trying to present Levec.
It's a vehicle for Lavak. They were trying to present
Levec as Dana White, with the idea that the star,

(45:22):
the mastermind is Levac and the wrestlers are the wrestlers
come and go their pieces. And I felt watching it,
that's kind of how I felt watching I thought that
they minimized the wrestlers that a lot of the wrestlers
you know where you Ripley, Cody Roads.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
They came off as very nice people.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
And clearly well spoken people, but it was very much
portrayed that they were the pawns and Paul Levec was
the manipulator.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Now you saw the first episode, and I think that's
primarily what he's referencing, I hope, unless he's seen the
whole thing and that's how he feels. But Dave is
known for some wild takes. What are your thoughts on
this show? Is just a vehicle for Triple H to
get over or Paul Avec to get over.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
It's funny because it's not the thing that got me
into liking the show, Like because Triple Hs you would
see him a few seconds here and there, Like do
I believe the Rocks saying Hey, I love you to
whoever go walks by? Now I mean, I mean but no,

(46:37):
Like I you know, I think about the show I
just watched, and I I remember the eyes of Cody
Rose when he said I never thought I would be
the guy, but here I am. And I remember I
see Ripley freaking out, and I see see him pong
going like I was in a bad place and you
know I but I'm here. I remember the wrestlers a

(47:00):
lot more than Triple H. You see that, you saw
the glue between everything. But to me, it's not like
you see that he's in charge. Yes, but it was
not like Triple H. That is ow Triple H with
his wife, like we barely saw Stephanie. We saw him

(47:20):
a little bit like talking to the writers, but it
was not anything significant that got me.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
You know, I thought it was interesting when Ripley was
going over match with Increase, and you know, I remember
these things right. Maybe it's because I'm a wrestler, but
the Triple H, No, I it didn't.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
I didn't think that either. Like Dave, I don't know
what Dave saw because I kind of agree with you.
I saw it as the wrestlers were telling their own
stories about their working environment within WWE, and of course
Triple H was involved because he's part of their story.
Like the CM punk thing wasn't to surround himself about

(48:04):
Triple H. The CM punk thing was I'm back here
and I want to go to WrestleMania and rear Ripley
was talking about battling injury. She was talking about her
storyline with Live and it's like it was like multi layered.
I felt like the wrestlers personalities coming through as just themselves,

(48:25):
especially when they're stating their government name and stuff. It
was more like here, this is me, Like this is
me without makeup, Like this is what I look like
right right right exactly. And I just I don't know
how Dave still comes up with so many big think it's.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
A discussion with I don't know, Tony Kahn, and that's
what they came up with because oh, Triple he's the
evil guy, right but yeah, no, I that he's the
glue between everything, yes, but that he's a master manipulator. Ever,
I was like, yeah, I mean since he's been there,
and and it's everybody knows about it because wrestlers have

(49:07):
been really vocal about it. It's so much better since
fucking McMahon left.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
YEP.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
I mean it's not it's not news. Everybody says it.
They wow, Hey, the guys can be home for fucking Christmas. Yeah,
I mean there's that. I think it's it's Drew mcintired
this week who said, like, you know what with the
schedule that we have now, I'm slowly starting to think
to be a father because now I could be there

(49:35):
for my child. Wow, things things you would never fucking
hear in the fucking Mgman days when they were right
three hundred sixty five and sixty six, right right, wrestle
twice the same day. But yeah, no, no, I don't.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Yeah, it's a bad take. Think Dave missed the point.
I don't know why he misses the point still, but yeah,
it feels like you missed the point.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Does it. Yeah, Tony, Tony's the glue with everything. It
would it was so great. Look at him, it's great, great, great, great,
everything's great. That that that would that would have been
would flip the script. It's the other promotion. That's what
he's saying. Let's let's be honest here.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Yeah, no, for sure, but I want to kind of
hint on this. Obviously you're going to be around for it.
SummerSlam Night one, Night two uh takes place. Where where
is it at? It's at the MetLife Stadium in New Jersey,
and uh, night one there's six matches. Night two there's
six matches. I don't think there's going to be anything

(50:41):
added last minute, but uh, you want to run down
the matches with me, sure, go ahead. First match on
the card we have is Tiffany Stratton versus Jade Cargill
singles match for the w WE Women's Championship.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
I'm it's not gonna be nice, but I'm sober Tiffany,
I'm like, just just change it, just just to shake
things up a little bit. So you know, I'm just
thinking Jade with about Naomi with about like a clash
or something. It's even it's more interesting than anything Tiffany

(51:24):
right now. I feel like they kind of rushed her
into being a babyface because of you know, everything that
happened with Charlotte that they thought she would be the
baby face and know, and it's the run hasn't been great.
It's there's nothing memory.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Fall apart because because I kind of agree with you,
I think when me and Joey were talking about this too,
I think one of my biggest caveats is is Tiffany
just doesn't feel like she has a direction. She's out
there being cheered, but she still acts like a heel
sometimes she still does very arrogant things. But it's like,
what point did Tiffany kind of fall apart? Because she's
clearly a talented wrestler through and through. She's a good talent.

(52:05):
It's just it's not shaping up to what we expected
Tiffy Time to be about.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
I just think she's not a babyface. She's good to
be the braddy, annoying heel. Yeah, so as Yeah, the
babyface thing doesn't work like it's Tiffy Time. That's pretty
much all the That's everything she has when it comes
to babyface. Everything else is like No, I see her

(52:33):
more as a Shawn Michael, beautiful and cocky and like
I'm better than you, and you know I look better
than you, and I'm like alettic and whatever, whatever, rich
whatever she wants to say, it's yeah, do you.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Think do you think it kind of fell apart in
hindsight when Charlotte came out. I think it was in
Chicago and she talked about how hard her we go
was and she was trying to be earnest, but I
felt like Chicago's like, boo, fuck you, like you're a heel,
we don't believe you. And Charlotte's over here really pouring

(53:10):
her heart out. And I remember that promo because she
kind of laughed and it felt like it was a
it was a real reaction to the crowd because it's like,
you've been such a good, such a convincing heel for
so long. Now you're trying to tell people your life
story and they're like, nah, you're fucking with us. And
it didn't work for Charlotte and then thrusting Tiffany in

(53:34):
that position to be her foil. Do you think that
that might have been the start of it or do
you think there's something else?

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Oh? Yeah, I mean everything went down the toilet at
this point. All the way down from there. I was like, yeah,
I think she never kind of recovered from that. And
it's funny because now you see Charlotte.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
With Alexa, yeah Alexis.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
And people are cheering her and they love the idea
of the team, and like people are slowly get behind
Charlotte and they're actually probably listening to her when she's
doing interview now and she talks about you know, who
Ashley is and where she comes from and her backstory,
and now they're like, hey, you know what, she's not

(54:19):
an asshole or whatever, and you know, she's so good.
She can make everybody look good. So right now I'm like,
I'm happy for Charlotte that things are moving this way.
And you know, I'm not the biggest Alexis alexiss sorry fan,

(54:41):
but I mean I like their pair. The odd pair
worked for me.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
And yeah, yeah, yeah, there were certain moments I like
that fill through that up, the one where Charlotte pulled
Alex out of the way, Like there's there's been a
couple of moments where they saved each other. And at
first it was very tepid, like they weren't you know,
they were frenemies kind of a relationship, but now it's
kind of growing. And the weird thing, the vibe that

(55:07):
I'm getting is here you have two women that are
established by themselves and they're kind of the older women
on the roster at this point. And obviously Becky and
Charlotte don't do anything together, Bailey and Charlotte, Bailey and Alexa,
like there's no other correlation there. So it's interesting to
see Charlotte and Alexa kind of hold on to each other.

(55:28):
So I don't know where this storyline friendship, tag team
partnership is going to end up, but as far as
the story that they're telling in between the lines, I
think it's really interesting because at first, I was not
a fan of it. I'm like, why are they putting
her with it? And I don't think that. I think
Alexa needs to grow. This was one of the things
I was even telling Joey. I'm like, dude, she's still

(55:50):
coming out there with the doll. They haven't even explained,
like and it's no offense to like bring her I know,
but Bray Wyatt's been gone for so long, you know,
it's like, at this point, can you change the doll
at least can you get a different kind of doll
or like new merchandise. But it's just this weird thing

(56:11):
that they've never explained because I think in one hand,
WWE doesn't want to explain it because it's sad and
we all understand that. But on the other hand, it's merchandise.
Like you said, it's money. People buy that Alexa doll.
They absolutely do. So I don't know, and she needs
to grow.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Maybe it's served way to bring Bray with her.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Maybe it's I would love if they told that story.
That would be great too. How human? Yeah, like, hey, look,
you want to know why I'm carrying the dollar around.
I miss Bray. I loved Bray Bray why it was
a friend to me.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
It was important and really with me every time I
have her.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Dude, people would love her even more if she said
something like that, you know, and it's such a simple
way to explain it. Yeah, you're right. We'll go on
to the next match. Oh so you picked the Jade
Cargill to take the title from Tiffany. Okay, Randy Orton
and jelly Roll or Buttercake as I like to refer
to him as versus Drew McIntyre and Logan Paul in

(57:09):
the tag team match.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
I mean, it's I don't think there's gonna be anything
else from that after unless they want to do something
Logan Paul versus Reddy Orton, so you know, put the
baby face over Yeah, yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
It's funny too because I was seeing the interviews that
a Jelly Roll did. I forgot which interview or the
one with the crazy eyes the I don't know if
those are her real eyes or if those air contacts,
but he had a really good sit down interview with her,
and it's wild. The dude lost more than two hundred pounds.
He's been training in the ring for like five six months,

(57:51):
like ever since his weight Lord yeah, this guy is
really taking it seriously because I mean, look, Logan, Logan
Paul is a freak of nature. The guy is just
a freaking nature as far as like celebrities go. And
obviously before that we had bad Bunny and arguably, you know,
Johnny Knoxville wasn't the worst thing in the ring, you know,

(58:12):
but usually celebrities.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
And everything like the Big Hand and everybody from chests.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
But it was silly and it was a lot of fun,
and it's it's a weird thing. And I remember seeing
Goof in the chat room was saying, it's like, it's
a weird time when wrestling celebrities are are doing so
much better, Like I'm paraphrasing what he said, but it's
a weird thing when wrestling celebrities are are now actually

(58:41):
good as opposed to not that long ago. When you
saw a celebrity in the ring, you just kind of
shook your head. Remember, oh, of course it was. It
was awful.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
You forget.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
I still remember what was it Trump versus Rosy o'donald
and that was wasn't.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
It wasn't the back of my mind in the drawer
that was locked forever. What did you do.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Oh yeah, that was those were those matches were so bad.
But yeah, no with a Jelly roll, I wonder, I
wonder if he's gonna be one of those guys that
surprises us and he gets out there and all of
a sudden has his fucking banger of a match, right,
So I don't.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Know that could be. I mean, for me, it's I
was going to say, it's a match too on the card,
usually match too, as we called it, the dead spot brother,
it's the one you're not sure if it's If it's
not good, there's another one that's good after us.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Well, this is just if it's good.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Yay, we're going up.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Yeah, this is just the way it's presented. I don't
think the matches are actually going in this order, because
if that was the case, then Sammy's a and Carrying
Cross are the main events, which I'm sure Carrying Cross
would love. But the third match we're gonna mention is
Gunther versus CM Punk singles match for the World Heavyweight
champion Ship.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
I don't think they're given it to to Punk. No,
they kind of have to rebuild Gunter because.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Which is weird. Weird just took out Goldberg.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
But yeah, yeah, and he had that weird storyline before
that he didn't know what he was doing where he
was going. And I was like, I don't like this Gunter,
like kind of weak. No, he's a badass. He kills people.
I was like, yeah, they need to he needs to
be back on track.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Yeah, no, for sure, I like the Gunter see him
punk thing. I think it's going to be amazing to
watch it is cash. I hope he doesn't come back.
I hope he doesn't come back.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
Here's the thing. If he's injured, what happens with the briefcase.
I'm just saying there's a new leader Paul.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Paul kind of eluded that even with his injury, by
the time he's healed up, he'll still have a few
months to cash it. And he kind of said that
in like, you know, just side of the mouth kind
of notion.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Seth, give it the breaker, right, give it the breaker.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
All of that would be grat Oh wow if Paul
Hayman gave Brown breaker the case instead, Oh shit, that's
something that's never been done before. Either.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Wow, there's money.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
Yeah, no, that's crazy. And then of course when Seth
comes back, he'll be like, what the fuck, what the fuck?

Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
There's a storylined right there, right, easy, easy, and you
know Seth comes back, he's a fucking he's pissed as
fucked and that's that's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
How you turn fucking bron breaker baby faced, right, and
then he's called Steiner well.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
And Ogi like, well, Rollins would never allow that. But
we don't know if Rollins's name is on the contract.
We just know that there's a contract in there. They
never clarified that whoever wins money in the bank, they
put their name like an inc on.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
The there's a contract for us. There's been matches where
people put the briefcase on the line, so the contract
is empty, right that makes sense?

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Yeah, wow, that would be crazy. And he yeah, he's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Just come back. He could like just spear him and
then he's gone again.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Take another six months off. Yeah, that would be great.
Judgment Day with Raquel and Roxanne versus Charlotte Flair and
Alexa blaz tag team match for the women's tag team goal.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
They will lose because what's her name? My god, I'm
so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
You just Roxanne.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Roxan's gonna make a mistake again. I think she's she's
purposely doing mistakes over and over again. For this to happen,
they're gonna lose because of her, so they're gonna have
a reason to have Like there's gonna be something going
on with the Judgment Day and then coming back or whatever. Like,
but yeah, I feel like she's been Yeah, she's been.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
The sand bag clown. Yeah, a little bit. I was
bringing that up before it, Like, I feel like there's
a little bit of sandbagging there with Roxande because we
know she can wrestle. Obviously she's fantastic in the ring,
but some of the mistakes she makes or are silly,
Like I saw people going, oh, she botched, and I'm like,
I don't know. I don't know about that one. I

(01:03:45):
think that's planned. And it's interesting because obviously, you know,
they're really pushing the idea that she's trying to step
in the way of Live for Dominic And it's like
even on Monday, they were all depressed because they lost
their match. That the intermixed team match too, which again
WWE doesn't do that very often, But that was a
lot of fun to watch aj and Ari and osca

(01:04:07):
versus the Judgment Day with Dominic. I thought that was
a fantastic exchange and they need to have more of
those kind of matches. I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Speaking of inter gender, Yeah, seeing the first unreal. I
will say it over and over again. Ww lot lost
a shit tone of money not giving Dominick versus Rea Riplant.
Oh yeah, I can't believe they did not fucking pull

(01:04:40):
the trigger on this one. She's she's as big as
he is, like and everybody every time she she was
getting him with a reptide or whatever the fucking pop.
Can you imagine a fucking match.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Right, come on, I mean it's people wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
To twenty six, like, don't do it every fucking week,
but this man, Oh, they lost an occasion right there,
Like I feel.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
It's it would have been another It would have been
like a China versus Chris Jericho match, like people loved
that match. And yeah, I don't know why they didn't
do that because real Ripley, I mean, she gets her
body weight fluctuates a lot, like there are times you
look at her and you're like, Jesus Christ, lady, you
look like you could choke an elephant. You know, it's

(01:05:27):
just and then Dominic You're right, he has that sinewy size.
He's flexible too. Yeah, you're so right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
He's a funny character. I mean, he could be serious,
but he can be really funny too, so they can
do a little bit of comedy in there. The storyline
was good to have something serious and funny at the
same time, so it didn't matter.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
So I was like, yeah, they should have given us both,
because they gave us Her versus Live multiple times, and honestly,
real Ripley got Live Morgan over like. It was amazing
how much of a good heel she became when she
started working with the Judgment Day because I mean, I'll
be honest, I was a naysayer on Live. I wasn't

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a fan of hers at all. The whole little weird
punk tour thing that she did back when she was
fucking with Ronda Rousey was Ah, that was not great
at all. And I tried, I tried, man, but it
just it wasn't It wasn't my flavor, you know. And
then all of a sudden, she had that interaction with Dominic,
especially at Mania, when they kissed and fucking they they

(01:06:32):
both flipped off the entire crowd. I'm like, wow, what
a what a great energy they had, And there's Rhea
Ripley crying in the ring, and she sold it, like,
I totally agree with you. I think the fact that
we never had that, but I think there's still time.
I think there still could be a moment where, even
after all this time, Ria Ripley and dom come face

(01:06:52):
to face for something and then I don't know, like
I still feel like there's more to that storyline because
the X storyline, this is my ex you know what
I mean, always comes up like a bad penny. You know.
It's just I feel that they still have meat on
that bone. Just I don't know, and especially if there's

(01:07:14):
a relationship breakdown between Live and Roxanne and Dominic. I
think that it would be funny if Live turns on
Dom and then Rio Ripley's just standing in the background
kind of laughing at them, like haha, fuck you serves
you right, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know,
but yeah, no regiment day versus Charlotte and Alexa. Who'd

(01:07:34):
you pick.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Charlotte and Alexa? Okay, guys, maybe maybe because Rock Sunning
will be distracted by Dom.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
Oh maybe it could be something.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
The next matchup for Night one, Roman Reigns and Jay
Husso versus bron Breaker and Bronson Reid with Hayman tag
team match.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
I would give it to the Bronze. They have to,
they have to establish them without Rowlin. Yeah, but will
will they?

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
Yeah, you're right, they need to.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
It doesn't give Roman or Jay anything to beat them.
But I think it gives everything to Brown Breaker and
Bronson reed to beat Roman and Jay.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Yeah, it gives them confidence, for one, and it gives
them believability to the fans.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Because exactly that's what they need right now.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Absolutely, I totally agree with you on that Sammy Zain
versus carrying Cross with Scarlett singles match with the stipulation
of Cross wins Zain has to say the words Cross
was right, and if Sammy wins Cross must say I
was wrong. How do you feel about this new Cross change?

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
They have to start pushing him they I. I don't
know if it's on purpose or not, that they're waiting,
waiting just so that people online are so mad that
there's nothing happening. Then when it happens, he's gonna end
up like being over like Stone Coast Steve Austin, because

(01:09:08):
he's against the authority, right and you know, like he
talked about them, blah blah blah, a little doing outside
of w W, which you know have to be he has.
There's a whole case somewhere from the office, I'm guessing hopefully,
But yeah, they need to start pushing him. I don't know,

(01:09:31):
beat him because of Scarlet. Like Scarlett's been acting, I
still a bit of a scary sharing her now. Man,
I love it. We need managers like that who get
involved in I do more than just.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Like, yeah, absolutely, we need more of the valet or
less of the valet and more of the manager. And
I love that Scarlet was going out there and throwing
boots and punch old boy in the nuts, and I'm like,
that's that's great, that's you know, Sean Michael's scary sherry stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
I love it exactly. Yeah, same, So, but I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
But Sammy gets beaten all the time now though too.
And that's the other problem, Like it's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
Hard still Sammy is kind of in a limbo right now.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
So as is it because Kevin's not around.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
I don't. I don't think so. I feel here's the
thing with Sammy. He's the babyface that can make everybody good. Yeah,
so he's he's a good hand for anything. But I
just feel like they don't know where to place him
right now. I mean, yeah, there's that story line with

(01:10:47):
with Cross, but I mean we're far from the bloodline
storyline or right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
That he's so far removed from everything now because yeah,
Kevin's not around, he's not really involved with or the
bloodline and Roman and stuff, and it wouldn't make sense
for him to buddy buddy up to them either, considering
what Roman did do his ass. So yeah's you're right,
limbo is a good word for it, because I don't
know where he's gonna go, and it's like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Bringing him down to push him back up after though,
that could be like that could be a way to
work it where you like you can't forget about him
a little bit, you know what.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
I'm kind of hoping, Like, sorry, one of the things
I'm kind of hoping, especially with you know them, that
there was rumors that Dominic they wanted him to within
Triple A title at one point, like they actually brought
it up.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Generica.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Yeah why not, Like dude, I mean, a fucking Kaiser
is doing fantastic is as El Grande Americano. Why not
have a crazy match Mexico. Yes, El Generico in Mexico
for a night.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
People would lose the I think a lot of Yeah,
I think they would love that, even if it's just
for one night. He just puts on the mask again,
you know, Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
With the and everything. Well money, you sell the mask.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Oh yeah, there you go, Sam Samy, Well, LA's night one.
We go to Night two, which on Sunday. Six matches there.
We'll start with the base match. We have the six pack, tables, ladders,
chairs match for the w w EE Tag Team Championship,
with the Wyatt Six being Dexter Loomis and Joe Gacy.

(01:12:38):
The champions versus Andrad and Ray Phoenix versus d I
Y which is Gargano and Champa versus Fhraxium which is
Axiom and Nathan Fraser versus the MotorCity machine Guns, Alex Shelley,
Chris Aban versus the Street Profits, Dawkins and Fords. Of

(01:13:00):
lots of people and twelve people in this match.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
I want to say for Andrade and Phoenix, yeah, because
everybody else I'm like, hmm, yeah, yeah, I'm not super
high on this match. It's probably and here's the thing, like,
I'll give that to him, Like Andrade every time in

(01:13:26):
the ladder, he's a fucking star. Yeah, he takes fucking
crazy bombs. He does. He shines in those matches and
the ship he took for everybody else in the last
two ladder matches he was in. I'm like, for good,
say give the guy something because he's probably gonna stand

(01:13:46):
out again. And I mean, they have a good thing
going on right now, and they have good chemistry and
it's something they can bring like now that they have
the you know, they could go there and defend a
champ being shipped and kind of revamp make it a
little bit more mean something like the tag title is

(01:14:07):
just block to me, yea, So maybe like going around
and challenge people from different places and just make it
an interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Nine oh five in the chat is saying that the
wyots are winning because they just announced that universal event
with them in it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Oh, well, yeah, they don't necessarily need a championship of that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
Right, I don't know. I mean I understand where he's
going from from a marketing perspective, like a branding perspective,
it's definitely a reason for them to keep the goal.
But I feel like the tag team division has been
a little stale and it's wild because the tag team
division used to be a powerhouse on WWE, And I

(01:14:49):
don't know, it's like everything is ebbs and flows right
like right now, I think the women are stealing the show.
I think the women are putting on some of the
best storylines, the best matches.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
And very honest. So like every time I see d
I Y, I just want to fucking die. I was like, ah,
I can't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
Yeah, the MotorCity machine guns feel flat too, don't they.
It's like they came in and they.

Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
Were on such a high and then they went.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
D I y yep exactly. It became secondary. Yeah, and
what happened to the street profits like they were the
champions for so long and I don't know, man, I
I really don't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
I just and here I thought like they were good
as heels and I was like push the ship and
nothing right because fuck they're good. They're fucking good like
like they do. Like I don't know why they're not
giving them.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
A little bit more.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
I don't know leeway or.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
I don't know, like, you know, thing, would you think that,
like do you think that there should be more inter
promotional stuff. Like right now the tag team division is floundering.
I kind of wondered, now that WWE is in bed
with Triple A, they're in bed with different promotions in Japan,
they're in bed with you know, DNA as well as

(01:16:17):
their NXT stuff, why don't they broaden their horizons a
little bit and try and have some of these matches
where you bring in different tag teams from different companies,
Like is that do you think that that could ever
be viable or is that still not in WWE's wheelhouse yet?

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
I mean, why not like start start with the tag
team championships. Have you champion defend different places, have other
people challenge them. Make it like a kind of wild
cards so people are interested in People don't necessarily wasch
WW will tune in because they know the fucking indie

(01:16:56):
guy that's on there, or they know like dude from Japan,
or it makes things interesting and different, and it brings
like a kind of a breadth of fresh hair to
a tag team division that's been stale and I don't know,
it's like gosh, I remember when when I was Demolition

(01:17:21):
and the Heart Foundation and the Legion of Doom, it
like every and the tag division, like every match was important,
and yeah, it's been kind of it for a while,
and I feel like, yeah, they need to try something.
Tag team wrestling can be like so like it could

(01:17:42):
be so great if done right, But I feel like, yeah,
it's it's just an afrothought.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Yeah, but Andreda and Phoenix is your choice, will go
to Dominic, Mysterio and AJ styles singles match with the IC,
I keep it on dumb, Yeah, I think you have to.

Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
You want to remove yeah, unless they want to remove
it so he gets the Triple A one oh, or
they want to give a little something to AJ. It
has been pretty good nowadays. I mean, and it's been
a while since he was champion two. I mean either
or I wouldn't be mad. But I mean I like

(01:18:23):
the idea that dom pretends he's the greatest intercollegen all
time and yeah, so but yeah, I agree with OG.
I was like, why not being the IC Championship when yeah,
I mean AJ Salm bring it to TNA. Somebody somewhere
needs to get WWE title from TNA because right now

(01:18:47):
and next day he's like grabbing everything. It needs to
go the other way around. To, I believe, so.

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
I agree that would be a lot of fun too.
I kind of thought that Jordan Grace was going to
be the one that catalysts that all over. You know.
I thought your former tag team partner might have been
the one to have the TNA's Knockouts Championship and then eventually,
you know, the WWE Women's Championship too. And I keep
seeing that in the background, and I'm like, she could

(01:19:15):
be a multi promotional champion within WWE. It would be
a very big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
You know. So well, they went for j C.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
Jane right, right, solo Soca versus Jacob Fatu steel cage
match for the WWE US Championship.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Oh, they have to go with Jacob right, she's the money.

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
He got and a steel cage too, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I see the moon saw from
the top of the cage. It's happening. It's happening. Although
I will say, I like, funny, Yeah, You're here to
let him be himself a little bit more, because he's
he's not like a series kind of guy, Like every
time he slips up on social media about like anything

(01:20:08):
else in wrestling. He's the funniest guy. I want to
see this guy on TV.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
Absolutely, what do you mean? We got Becky Lynch versus Lyra,
no d Q, no count out, last chance match for
the WWE I c if Lynch wins, Lyra can no
longer challenge for the title as long as Becky is champ.
That's a lot of stuff to tack onto this.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
Well, here's here's what I would do. Becky goes over.
If you can't beat them, join them, turn the fucking
bird girl heel and try something as a heel.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Do you think Bailey gets involved in this, especially after
her really depressing promo on Monday?

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
Oh yeah, she she's been too too busy talking about
the fact that she's not on her slat like, so
she will be right right which side? I mean, where
are they gonna go? Like, it's is she gonna help
Becky or she's gonna help Lyra? I mean, from what

(01:21:13):
I feel, she would go against Lyra and turn heel.
But ah, do you want another ding dong kind of Bailey?

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
And that's the thing too, is that I would feel
like it was almost a copycat of Charlotte and Alexa
joining up.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
You know, I feel like Bailey's not into it. Anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
I feel like that she's good, she's.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
She's doing, but I feel it's I don't know, not empty.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
The character is empty, right, I feel like the characters
has seen a lot. I know she's capable in the ring.
I just I don't know when I when I watch Bailey,
I don't have that enjoyment that I did back in
the day when people woul Sarah Nader when she was
coming out with the inflatable wacky tube. Men like it.

(01:22:07):
It's so far fetched that you came from this place
of being the female stone cold Steve Austin and now
you're you're you're I don't know, Zach Allen, like, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
Here's the thing, Like, she's much older, Like do you
see an older and I'm old? So that's why I
allow myself to say that as an older woman, do
you really want to be seen as somebody who dresses
like a little girl? People already say like, oh, this
comes out with dolland she has pigtails and she's old,
blah blah blah blah. Is she gonna have the same

(01:22:42):
kind of criticism?

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
I think so, I know, But at the same time,
you say that and it's not like Nikki Bella doesn't
come out with her backwards hat and her cheerleader outfits.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
So well, I say, as well, I don't think you
can that she can't touch, but I don't want to
look either, So yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
I think you're right. I think I understand. You know,
Bailey's older, she wants to present herself that way, and
I agree with you. I miss the hugger gimmick. Like
I can understand evolving a little bit. I just didn't
understand why.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
I mean evolve it like she. When I think about
the ugger, I also think about the macho man kind
of colors and the she could go this route and still,
you know, look as a I don't like the term old,
but like more of a mature woman who you know
she's She's not like a baby you hugs everybody, but

(01:23:43):
still has the colorful thing. And yes, so it's very
baby faced. It's fun, it's cute, but it's not baby ish, right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
I got you. Yeah, No, I'm totally down with that.
I would love to see her revisit that character, but
I don't know. I have I have a feeling that
if we're going to see Bailey, which we probably will,
she's going to be turning on Lira. I just have
the feeling and I would. I think it makes more
sense for Lyra to go bad, but I don't know

(01:24:17):
she's well.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
It would give the opportunity to Lira to change the
gimmick and change everything. And I feel like since she's
not connecting as a babyface, maybe as a heel, then
she has all the reasons to be healed. I try
to give you something different, I try to make you
love me, and you keep laughing at me. Fuck you,

(01:24:40):
blah blah blah. It's all there. It's easy. Well it's easy.
I mean, there's a story without telling a story, it's there.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Right, so cool?

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Yeah? No, I like, oh no, no, role model, Yeah,
please change that fucking song. Oh Model, what's the deal?

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
I was like, Ah, Now, Naomi versus Rio Ripley versus
Eosky triple threat for the Women's World Championship. I've already
marked this as this is going to be the match
of the night. I just have a vibe. These women
went out there and killed each other last God's sake.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Keep it on, Naomi. Oh, she's doing great as a heel.
Just just just let her run with it, like, please.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
If they don't leave it on Naomi, it deflates her
so much. It really makes everything look like a fluke.
And it's like, man, no, Naomi. Naomi is strong enough
to stand and and even it was funny even on Monday.
You know, I heard people chanting along with her with
the proceed with caution and then corny as hell. But

(01:25:48):
people are already invested in Naomi.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Corny cornet is it loves the new version Naomi. Can
you believe that? Yeah? He thinks like her as a
healing where the ask came from. It's like, yeah, so
she's she's winning everybody's hearts.

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
I loving great job.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know where she pulled
it out of because, like I said, I mean I
remember watching her.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
Back she just said yeah, yeah, it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
Was she's she's found something. I don't know if she's
been hiding this from everybody on purpose or what, But
I mean I saw the backlash. You're like, oh, she's
just you know, more fatigue, and I'm like, oh, you're
not reading the character right if you're looking at it
like that, Like Naomi is betraying everything she was as
the glow girl. Like she's betraying everything she was as

(01:26:44):
this consummate babyface character even when she was in Team Bad.
She wasn't this character. This, this whole thing feels wild,
like Naomi is just wild right now. And I love it.
I love this evolution of her character. She wasn't even
this in TNA. I went to a couple of her
her events and when she came around to Cicero right

(01:27:07):
outside of Chicago and stuff to watch her matches when
she was in TNA, and it was great. It was
great seeing her there. But this character didn't even exist then,
when she didn't have the WWE bubbles. So I don't
know who pulled this out, but it's fucking fantastic. I'm
with you. I hope they they leave it on her,

(01:27:27):
like Ria doesn't need a title, and I don't think
iogoes either. I think EO is strong enough. There's a
fan base for EO. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
Oh, she's skewed, like I just want to pinch her
little cheeks and she's she's no, yeah, she's she's like
the typical babyface, like when she's pointing at her gre
you go, just like she she's got the people behind,
like when I talk about Babyface, Fire Haroen is like

(01:27:57):
right there, that's her, and yeah she does in these titles.
She she's yeah great, just give her a good feud
so people care and you know, want to get behind her.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
John Cena versus Cody Rhoads Street Fight for the undisputed
WWE Championship.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
Double Turn.

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
Oh do go on, do go on.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Cody has been walking the line Babyface does not do
too much lately. Yes, and Sena, you know he's people
still love him. He gets cheered. He went from being
just booze to getting back to getting cheered.

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
So if Cody Rhoades beats the shit out of him,
because with weapons, I'm telling you, he's gonna get booed
and they're gonna both like switch. Oh wow, that well
that's what I would No, No, I.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
Love that idea. That's I mean, when was the last
time we saw a good double turn? You know?

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
Mm hmm. It would be great because with everything that
happened with the fucking Cody's soul and then that kind
of died and Travis Scott is nowhere to be found.
He took six minutes to get the fucking ring. I mean, yeah,
they need they need to save this and I think
that's that's how.

Speaker 3 (01:29:29):
Can I can I throw out a little asterisk?

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
Is there a potential we see Ron Ron Killings out there?
Oh shit, he's kind of disappeared. But I don't know,
Like i I'm still.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
Yeah, here's here's the thing with Ron Killings, same thing
as Cody. I have little heeled vibes about him. He's mad,
he's angry, he's pissed. So a babyface cannot beat these
three things too often. So I'm like, imagine the Bret

(01:30:07):
Hart and Stone Cold and John Cena is fucking bleeding.
Cody keeps on beating whatever and Double Turned grabs the belt, wins,
and then our twoth comes in pretending to help Sina
and then he beats the shit out of him. So
Stephen's going into a feud with our group and Cody

(01:30:30):
goes to whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
Yeah wow, And I'd see Eddie saying he's like, now
he's feeding with alistair black. I understand that, but it
feels like the story between Killings and Sena was never
really finished, you know what I mean. Maybe it's just me.
Maybe other people are like, yeah, no, that was done,

(01:30:52):
and maybe that's the way people feel. I just I
don't know. I have this just this thing in the
back of my head like there's still more coming. I
don't know what it is. But if you're going to
have a street fight where there's no rules, maybe people
make an appearance.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
Well yeah, why not? Like they could do like an
old fucking E. CW things everybody coming out. They keep
doing that, so I wouldn't. No, I would go for
the good old like yeah, Brett hart Stone cold Yeah.
I mean, but.

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
That's the that's the two nights of Summer Slam. During
the Summer Slam events, I'll be hanging out with the
boys over at Tuny Talk Wrestling, and then on the
post show for night one it'll be myself and Andrew
Carlock and John Draper. And on night two we have
the return of Joey Numbers and I don't know, I'll
open the door of Loo if you want to come
with us on night two to cover it. On Sunday

(01:31:49):
night at one in the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
Would I go to work when I wake up at six.

Speaker 3 (01:31:56):
You are always welcome on the show whenever you want
to come on, So if you want to come with us,
we'd love to have you on. Also, make sure to
check out Lufisto's episodes with Jeff Litman, the wrestling stew
that covers LFG. Newest episode just went up. New episode
of Body Slam Briefs with Jeff Flipman. I'll just also
just went up covering the Vince McMahon car accident, more

(01:32:20):
about the John Moxley case with AW and a lot
of things to unpack and unveil there, and a few
other things as well. Check out Tuny Talk Wrestling, check
out our friends Drew Yari and the Drew Yari Experience,
the guys over there at the Experience. And then of
course I much love to White Chocolate, who's still in recovery.
We hope he's doing well. We're hoping for another dose

(01:32:45):
of chocolate sooner than later. But after tonight's episode it
will be Jeff Littman and Marie Shadows covering Evolve in
place of White Chocolate for this week, and yeah, and
then everything else this weekend. Make sure to check out
the World the Women's Wrestling Syndicate as well on Twitter.

(01:33:05):
And yeah, I think that pretty much covers everything, doesn't it, Lou?

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
I think so?

Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
Okay? All right, there's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
A lot more this weekend with two fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
Shows, Yeah, a lot more, but we'll be here for it. Tomorrow.
It'll be a I guess a missionary position. There's no
Frank and Gus because there's no Gusts. So I'll see
what I'm gonna do tomorrow. Maybe I'll get a hold
of Andrew Carlick. Maybe we can do something for Friday,
and then of course Saturday and Sunday we'll obviously be
here for the post shows and live on YouTube. I've
got new cameras to set up. I got four cameras

(01:33:38):
that I bought during the Amazon days and I got
them all dirt cheap, but I bought four different ones
so I could return three of them because I you
know what I mean, Like that's it's like a return them.
But it's like now I'm coming close to thirty days,
so I got to try them out before I can't
return them, and I'm stuck with four cameras. So but yeah, anyways,

(01:33:59):
we'll see everybody this weekend. Subscribe to the YouTube, Subscribe
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Thank you for joining us. Thank you again, lou lovely.
As always, we appreciate you and yeah, see you guys online.
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