IS IT REAL or IS IT GETTING TAGGED 22 TIMES IN THE FACE? (Wrestling Soup 8.26.25)

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Roh. I was really beginning to test my patience with
Oh it was awful with its existence at this point,
it was.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
It was absolutely awful. I was surprised. I didn't even
finish Joe. I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I couldn't. I did. The only reason why I was
able to get through the whole thing was because I
was like, all right, put it on on your phone
and do all your fucking paperwork. You gotta get done.
So I had it playing next to me and I'm
watching it, and I'm just like, this is so fucking bad,
Like I couldn't imagine somebody giving this their full concentration.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, but everybody was at fault too, that's the problem.
I wanted to beat everybody in that fucking crowd with
a shoe. Can you stop chanting and cheering and singing
along for anything and everything? I get at your bored,
but holy shit, have some dem you know?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
It's it is amusing to me because like I can't
tell it anymore, Like you said, I can't tell anymore
if they're shitting on it, like are you making fun
of it like you're bored? Or are you having a
good time? I can't even tell it.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Oh No, they were bored. They had to have been bored.
Do you think they really love Roman Reigns that much?
It's like seventeen minutes of just singing his stupid song
over and over and over again.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Oh I know, well that was a nice thing about
being as.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Rains.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Ugh no, really, it is excessive. You're not wrong where
it's that first? First of all, that little song now
is that? Okay, we got to have some Brits here
that can like clarify this to me? Is that used
for all sporting events or a particular one or whatever

(01:58):
the fuck it is? Because I don't know, man, I
wouldn't want to win anything for you if I was
an athlete and that was going constantly.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Is that like the Asperger theme song or something? Or
fuck at a wrestling show?

Speaker 1 (02:15):
The chances I mean, I am oh, how how could
such a thing occur? Yeah? No, I was thankful for
the fact that, I mean, I'm just fucking conking out.
I went to bed early last night, so I was
able to watch this back. Yeah, and you're right, the
first seventeen minutes of it or so, maybe there was

(02:35):
a commercial in there too. I had an edited version
of it, but seventeen minutes of it, or it was him.
You know that they're doing the intro and then he's
walking to the ridge.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Oh that took forever. By the way, he was walking
extra slow so people could suck his dick. Holy shit,
Roman is not the same Roman that you remember. Yes
you are, Yes, you are. Shut the fuck up. Okay,
I'll be the same Roman. Since you guys said so

(03:12):
pernal fucking.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I'm so glad that you enjoyed this even less than
I did, because it's just it's tie. It's really really tough, man,
And I'm seeing people like leave comments with it, just
like it sounds like you guys are just tired with
it or whatever. I'm like, dude, it's bad. It's bad TV.
I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
They just can't understand that there's actually two people on
the fucking planet that literally speak from what they see
and what they feel. It's like whenever we criticize AW
you guys your bunch of e drones, Oh you do
is love WWE, And now that we're criticizing WWE, you
guys just hate wrestling. Yes, that's it. It's not that

(03:56):
we both want to enjoy the fucking two and a
half hours or whatever minutes they put on every week,
never mind the other fucking umpteen shows.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Six six television shows.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Stop like literally, just think with your fucking brains, you
goddamn knuckle dragging Neanderthals. It's just awful. The show is bad.
The show is bad. What are you gonna do? Yes,
why am I going to pretend it's good when it
was fucking like a trip to the dentist was awful.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
It's something that you have to like withstand. That's what
it becomes. Like. It's no longer a thing that you're
watching it and you're like, oh, they're kind of fun
or oh, there was just like, dude, I get that
they're trying to the nicest way to say it is
they're trying to like tighten the spotlight on some people.
But we're getting to the point where it's it's the

(04:47):
same fucking thing every single.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh no, they did sweach us. They did give us
Roman to start off the show instead of seth Rollins.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
You know, yeah, right, the same And by the way,
like I'm gonna give it. This is just I feel
like I'm doing a tribute to Kevin right now. I'm
gonna give fucking Roman Reigns the credit of being like, well,
at least he's gone away. So when he comes back
and he's you know, he takes off for a while,
at least the people when they see him now they

(05:17):
understand or it's treated like, it's a little bit more
of a treat as opposed to the sad thing where
you're like, you see him every week at nauseum.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Don't.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I don't understand how they still react to it. It
doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I don't think they would have liked I don't think
Kevin would have liked Roman Reigns in this light. Look,
first off, they open up the show by pretty much
murdering Bronson Reid's character. Oh that one and all the
shoe related puns and shit, Oh my god, please fucking

(05:50):
stop stop killing this man. And then they do the
whole thing. Oh he's themoan. I didn't know he was
the moan. I'll give you one more chance. Remember I'm
the baby facing this. You got to come in here,
kiss my ass, apologize to me. Give me my shoes back,
to which the crowd for another two minutes was like,

(06:11):
give him his shoes, give him his shoes, give him shoes,
give him shoes, You're like, oh my, fuck you God.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
It's like a stem, Like, that's that's how I feel
when I listen to the crowd do that same thing
over and over again. Dude. Maybe if it's a soccer
game or like a live sport, especially like soccer, because
they're always moving, shit's always going on, you're like, Okay,
well maybe that just kind of blends into it. But
when it's professional wrestling, where there's like pauses and things

(06:43):
that are supposed to happen, and the register.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
They literally pause so that the audience can sing their
songs and they're chanting and they're hymnals, it's like a
charge response at this point. You know, May the lords
be with you and also with you.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Our father who hadn't heaven the name. Yeah, like, dude,
there is something too. There is something too. Bronson cutting
the promo the way that he did, where he's like,
I'm from a what did he say, I'm from an
uncivilized tribe.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, he was saying that there are epithets to be
used here which shall not be used. But yes, he
said he's from the uncivilized version of the Samoan tribe.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, I'm I'm sure there were a lot of people
on Twitter happy about that one.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, He's like Roman Reigns bought his tattoos at a
tattoo shop with a fancy tattoo maker. Meanwhile, Samoan Reed
got his injected with like a bird's feather or something.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Is there a video of him getting hit with the
fucking needlestick? Like a yeah, I love the idea of
a guy being like I am a mighty tribal warrior
and I got you bought your tattoos or whatever, And
I'm like, aren't you guys both wearing Nikes?

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I got tetanus four times getting this outline, you know,
like all right, no, like that was.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
It last week or Sunday or Friday? I don't even know.
There's so many fucking WWE shows. But Bronson Reid was
out there and like a pair of like purple, aqua
purple and aqua Nikes, and I'm just like, cheese is
fucking christ?

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well he had two pairs around his neck this week.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yes, of course, which he's collecting. He's collecting all these shoes, man,
So what's.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
The goal He's gonna have like nine pairs of shoes
around his neck. He's gonna be the Mercedes mone of feet, like.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Fuck, kay, hello to your feet. E oh Jesus, he
comes out, he's like England. Oh God, it's no, it's rough, man.
It's very, very fucking challenging to watch some of these shows.
And it sucks because, like you said, and you've said

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a million times, like yeah, Bronson, cool, Like let's I
want him to do something. I really hope this guy
can pull something off. And now I'm already just there's
like a ninety percent chance he's losing on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
I didn't even watch the main events. I told you that.
And at the beginning, dude, I got to the Lyra
backstage prom when I said, I'm done, I'm just done.
I I can't take another forty minutes of I'm done please.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
The last hour was was challenging.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I'll read about it and I'll pretend I watched it.
I can't even pretend it was.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
A to Yah Kim too well, they're doing the same

(10:18):
exact thing with it. It's really, like I said, it's
the same exact ship almost every week. And it's like
if somebody was to say, you guys have the same
criticisms I'm like, it's the same show. They keep giving
us the same show with like a two percent fucking
difference to it. Yeah, this is now like like you
mentioned burg Girl, this is what the third week in

(10:39):
a row now where bird Girls walked up to someone
had been like whoa, Bally, whoa, she's a cuckoo lady,
She's crazy. It's like it's been a fucking month. It's
it's been easily two or three weeks. This has been
the same thing where girls walking up. Yeah, and Adam
Pierce is just like little do Like, okay, dude, aren't

(11:01):
you were boss? Like isn't it.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Supposed to they've neutered it. Pierce. Adam Pierce was a
strong component of the show for RAW for a while
there because he was involved. He kept everything going and
he stepped out of the Spotlight. He was in the
Spotlight guy, which I loved, and they'd include him in
storylines like his little stuff with the New Day and
him kind of losing his mind over Dom and all
them like. They kept him involved. But now he just

(11:26):
feels like I'm just a guy on the show. It's like,
well what is.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, I know, but yeah, at this point he just
is like there's not much. And once again, this was
I think either the second or third week. Maybe I'm
rounding up by saying in months, but at least the
second or third week of this whole thing. But don't
you think you would have Adam Pearson say something like
you got a pay per view coming up on Sunday
or a p elie whatever you want to call it, right,
Why wouldn't he say, you know what, yeah, Lyra, I've

(11:53):
reached out to him now for or her now for
a couple of weeks, and you know there's no response.
I'm gonna, you know, call, leave a voicemail, and I'm
going to say it directly into the camera because I'm
sure Bailey is listening or watching right now that Bailey,
if you don't show up at Clash at Paris, then
you will be suspended for ninety days or something like that.
So you know, you'll be suspended for ninety days and

(12:17):
you won't be able to get a title shot for
a year or something. Just really like sweeten the pause.
So at least that way we're like, oh, okay, whatever
happens on Sunday, at least we know Bailey's going to
show up and do something as opposed to two weeks
of just I know.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Look, let's talk about Bailey for a second, and I
do meet just a second. So she cut another one
of her crazy promos. But it's she I think she's
still wearing the same shit she was for the last
two weeks.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
It's the same interview, it's the same promo. Yeah, they
all filmed it in the same day.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
And she's just been gone for two weeks.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Like in that moment, I think to myself, I go,
can she put on a different tank top at least?

Speaker 3 (12:59):
No?

Speaker 1 (12:59):
You know, no, you got your bag with you, put
on a different T shirt something.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
It reminds me of those those back in the day
when when they would have, like Jim Ross, do the
three part interview or the two part interview continued next
week and then something crazy happens and I don't know
what they're doing with it except it's yeah, there's nobody there.
There's no continuity to it. It's just, yeah, we get it.

(13:28):
She lost some matches, and she has split voices in
her head that are apparently so prominent now that she
just openly answers them.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, she's like shin in shin up. I don't want
to hear it anymore. I'm like, yeah, neither the week.
What is going on?

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Same thing that was going on last week?

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Joe. I know. It's like, but there's there's this idea
too that I think that is really frustrating because what
they think they're doing is like longer term storytelling, right,
But they're not building on the story at all. They're
just repeating the same things over and over again. It's
like there's no bad progress.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Three times in a row, will you get it?

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Then?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
No?

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah? Yeah. I'm like, I'm like, is this right? Is
this writing for a television show? Or are you singing
me the chorus of a song? Because it's the same
fucking thing, Like change something grow, Let the story grow
a little bit, you had it in a different direction,
give us something to think about instead, like you said,

(14:37):
it's just oh, worried about Bailey. He would have got
to hold of Bailey. Which, by the way, whi is
bird girl worried about Bailey? They don't get along, they're
not friends. Why is she worried about her? It's not
like cuckoo Bailey is looking at the camera in her
cuckoo face and going I'm coming for you, Lyra won't
do that would make Lira worried? Don't you think?

Speaker 2 (14:56):
I mean I would assume, especially if she's crazy? Now sure, yeah,
so why.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Does she but like, why does she even care? Why
is she even invested in this at all? Like it's like,
at least if Bailey was like, you know, Lyra, you
know I'm hearing these things and they're telling me that
I got to come for you or whatever the fuck
Otherwise it's just like, is she just I don't know,
is she just overly empathetic Lyra? Every single week she's

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just gonna fly across the planet to show up for
ten seconds and then look at Adam Pearson be like,
you need to check in on your employees. Adam Pearce
is like, I I'm just a baby, Like what, it's
really bad? It is quite fucking bad. And I said
it a month ago, and now I'm getting to a

(15:42):
point where it's it's concerning. It's making me look at
the way that Tony Kahan book shows for years and
be like, I don't know, I don't know because he
couldn't figured out, but this is like five percent better
at this point, It's not even like it's blowing it

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out of the fucking water. Like the entering shit is
still a lot more coherent and makes sense. But whatever
they think these are as stories or something that's gonna
get you wrapped up not good.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I think the creative team took the summer off. That's
what I'm hoping.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
God, I don't know either the creative took the summer
off or right now, Triple H just assembled this goof
troup of people that he's really confident in and he's like,
you guys, just do whatever, and you know, I'm giving
you guys the ball to run with it. And they're like, yeah,

(16:40):
we're gonna do that. And this is what you got,
milk chocolate.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Shah, I'm milk chocolate now. Okay. He's saying it's TKO
versus Triple H, and I've seen that that sentiment echoed
a little bit online here and there. A lot of
people feel that there's some type of internal or creative
struggle between the two, and I think that there's some
merit to it, but not in the day to day stuff.

(17:05):
I don't think TKO gives a flying fuck about Bailey's storyline.
I don't think they give a flying fuck about Roman
Reigns' storyline with the Shoe Lafalla. Like, I don't think
that these are the things that they care about. What
TKO is interested in is all the celebrities that come
in there, all the people that reflect on the company
as a whole, you know what I mean. Like it

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feels more as if if it's rock based stuff, maybe
even Triple H or Sean stuff too. I think that's
when they care, because they understand that these are the
people that are looked at as legends in the company,
and obviously who they interact with. I would assume that
they care a little bit about, you know, Cody Rhodes's storyline.

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Let's not even pretend that Seth is on the same
level as Cody Rhodes. I'm sure they care about John
Cena's retirement, but I just can't see them giving a
flying fuck about Damian Priest, you know, I mean, right.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, of course they don't care. They don't care about
the day to day the same exact way as I'm
sure the giant mega conglomerate that owns Burger King doesn't
care about its frozen patties and where they come from. Right,
as long as they don't get sued. They don't care, right,
and that's and that's what we're seeing from the show.
And it's tough because I do think that, for what

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it's worth, there are a lot of people that I
do like as performers, and I want to see them
do well. I mean, for every you know Seth, who
I can't fucking stand, there's a half dozen people that
are featured that I'm oh cool, all right, you know,
like I want to see Pent to do well because
now Pent has kind of won me over, I'm like cool,
I'm glad to see him. And you know, Rock Sayane.

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I like the whole Judgment day for the most part too.
But it's just getting very, very fucking redundant.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Well, there's a lot of storylines that don't really have
an identity to them, right, So when you're talking about redundancy,
I go to the EO Sky Rio Ripley, Osca and
sad sad Face Kyrie saying, and I understand that they're
trying to build some kind of a storyline bridge between

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them to where Rio Ripley is the odd Asian out
or the non Asian, the the the too white for
the room.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Come he's not family and you know how you can
say the family.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Oh well, yeah, because all all of the Asians we
off emery, we are thuree.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I heard that and I was just like, oh boy,
uh that's rough. Yes, that's the selling point is you
see the three women who are Japanese together and we're
supposed to be like Rhea could never live up to
that friendship. And you're like, I don't know. It seemed
like the pretty good friends to me. But no, you
wouldn't understand, dude.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
So so here's the problem that I have with it.
I don't understand. And where Osca's just unruly amount of
hatred for Ria Ripley came from. Even Kyrie Is is like, oh,
I'm so sorry. I don't know why she hates you.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
And it's like Kyrie is It is very amusing to watch,
because yeah, because Kyrie is standing there and she doesn't
know how to read like and I mean in character
of course, but I don't know who to choose or
whatever the fuck it is. But you, god damn you,
I know it would, but you would think that she

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would even attempt to raise her voice a little bit
at some point and be like, Oscar, why are you
so mad?

Speaker 2 (20:40):
But no, here's the thing is, I don't even understand
why Kyrie likes Io. I don't even understand why Kyrie
doesn't like Rhea. Why is Kyrie involved in this at all?
At least I don't understand the hate between Oscar and
Rhea Ripley, but there is a connection there. They have
fought before. I don't remember Kyrie and Ria Ripley having
a big storyline, do you.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
No, No, I could be I could be wrong. I
mean she was in the company for a while and
all that, but I don't think that ever happened. We're
just ending up at this point where now is there
a soul that doesn't think that Oscar's turning heel? Is
anybody at this point because now it's the way that
it's been playing out and how long it's gone on.

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We're all just sitting around going, Okay, when's Oscar gonna
fucking blomb you know, EO or something? And then that
leads to a tag match, and then you have the
tag match where you know, like you said, Kyrie's sitting
there like I don't know what to do. It's like,
that's the story, that's what we got. Yeah, that's it.
That's all we have, I mean, for facts their best.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah, you guys are making the women look great. Hey,
can Stephanie Vacker stay backstage for another six weeks? Please?
I hate seeing talent on television.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
I was very you know what. I'm so glad to
hear that. Adam Pearce is like, I could do much
in Steffy Booker is like it's okay. I'm like, why
is it okay? Right? You were like and well once
again another talent that like I fucking rooting for.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, I'm like, yeah, god, this gorgeous hand talented. Oh
we can't have that on TV every night?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Oh boo, no, thank you? Can you get her off television?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Please? Don't sing her song? Give her a more catchy song, guys,
and put her out there?

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Yeah? Can you send her out to you know? I
don't know, there's just like I see your rest. Can
we get that going.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
About Carless Whisper? Did people know the words to Caroless Whisper?

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Fuck? Eight six seven five three? Oh nah? Maybe that'll
get her on television. No, it's it's absurd because I'm
looking at it this whole, no way that this is
kind of played out where I'm going. Why don't you
put those four women together and have like some eight
women matches and shit and like kind of have them

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joined forces and lead up to Survivor series. Do you
know what I mean? Like you go, oh, okay, well
these are our babyfaces, and well why are there babyfaces?
Well you have eos a former champ. You have Rio
who's a good friend of her. You have Oscar who's
a fucking great heel but also a great babyface and
is who she is. And Kyrie who's like a cute
puppet puppet pirate that's fair, that's also fair with a

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little eye patch. And you're like, yeah, that's your babyface.
Woman's fucking Survivor series match, which we're gonna sneeze and
it will be November, so why not do that? And
instead it's like they're going to fight each other. I
don't know, dude, They're just taking forever to tell uninteresting
stories that don't grow over time. And then well.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
It's because they have to make room for Becky and
Nikki Joe.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
I mean, oh, boy, dude, you know, you know it's bad,
you know it, It's really fucking bad. When Nicky Bell
is cutting promos and I'm looking at it, and I'm going,
this is like average for the show now, Like I
don't even I'm not even looking down on it. That's crazy.
Where like she's on the shoe, you know, all right, Becky,

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you know you always had an ego and you're lucky
to be here. Blah blah blah. I'm just like I
should want to make fun of this, but it's just
like it's fine for what this show has become.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Do you see what I'm saying? Like, yeah, but she's
just boring the bar sho. That's the exactly we can't
I'm touring the bar. At what point are we just
tripping over this fucking thing? Because honestly, the the Becky
Nicky feud, I'm I'm already done with it. I don't
I don't care who wins. As long as it's over,
we all win. But Nicky Nicky is just she's really

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showing her age. And what I mean by that is
she seems lost during these little promo battles with Becky,
Like the first time Becky got that huge pop mocking
John Cena, so of course he had to truck Nikki
out there again for some more beatings from Becky verbally anyways,
and it's just it's not working for me on any level.

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The big thing, obviously was this week when Becky got
out there. She was in the segment on the promo
and she said, you can have your match, but in
Paris at Clash, because I'm not wrestling in Birmingham. The
only good thing that came out of here died a
month ago, Booze. But in fairness to Ozzy Osbourne, he

(25:34):
had the good sense to move to la a proper city,
because if I lived in Birmingham, I died too.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
I know. There was a point where Becky was hitting
him with some bars, and you're right in the sense
of NICKI didn't really have.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Oh no, NICKI just steamrolled that shit. She had no
idea what she even meant. She's like Ozzy who.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
I think a perfect example of that was when she
started saying, like England, you guys take everything you you know,
you took over Ireland. Wasn't eight hundred years enough or whatever?
The fuck? Yeah, And I'm sitting there thinking aboutself, even
though like I said, it blended into the show because
it was so fucking mediocre top to bottom. But in

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my mind, what I'm thinking, Nikki Bella's hearing her say that,
and she's going, what I just know White Sox No, no, no, no, no,
not even Ozzy Osbourne bish? Do you think she under
do you think she knows about like the IRA and
the ship that happened? Like, do you think she has

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any concept of that?

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Played to IRA every year?

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah? I hate them? Yeah one time. I one time
I bought a car and they were like you, oh,
more money. I'm like, Ira, you suck. He sucks so bad.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
How many Irish gangs are there?

Speaker 1 (27:07):
I can't remember them all? Too many?

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I worked so hard to pay off the.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Ir I saw Brave Heart and I was like, oh wow,
don't cut my balls off?

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Oh yeah, like what get what happened with him? What happened?
He's like a weird guy. You know.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
There was all up from that promo too, which this
is where this is where I will nod back to
the newly crowned Milk Chocolate where he was talking about
t k O and WWE. But Kelly Osbourne jumped online
and bashed a fan, a Becky Lynch fan, and saying

(27:57):
you are a disrespectful dirt back Birmingham would not piss
on you if you were on fire. Shame on the
WWE for allowing such things to be said about my
father and his home.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Come on, come on, lady, you know what this is.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
It's a it's gotta be a look. Yeah, Daddy's in
the Hall of Fame. Yep, Daddy was a.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Big She's got to be clued in to know.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
I'm thinking she's gonna be fighting Becky next.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
That would be funny. That would be funny if they
had her slapper or something in.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
The telling you, I would not be surprised if Nicky
Bella wins the match and now comes fucking Kelly Osborne
to help Nicky win or some shiit.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
She's sitting in the front row, even something like in
La the next time or something? Oh is that something?
Along with?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Is that true? Starting dark? Gable in the chat says,
Kelly's even been on TV WWTV? Has she really okay?

Speaker 1 (28:56):
I figured, well, I mean probably a long time ago,
right like.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Her, probably couldn't remember. Well maybe during the Hall of Fame, sure, but.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I don't know. Honest to god, do you think it's
do you know how funny it is to me where
you said there's a backlash to that, and I was like, oh,
we're British people upset that they heard the truth. And
You're like, oh, no, it was the Osbourne's And I
was like, oh, that's almost more weird because I can't
imagine them being offended by much.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
But that seems like that would be one of those
connections that t K I would love.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yeah, oh yeah, wasn't it not wrong?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
You can get we can get Ozzy Osbourne's daughter right
after he passed, and he's she's gonna want to beat
the shit out of one of your wrestlers for saying something.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
He's gonna slap Rebella fucking Kelly Lynch Kelly, She's gonna
smack Kelly Kapowski right across the face. Yeah, no, whatever, man,
I mean, it's that's funny to me that that even
is a conversation. And last, like you said, this is

(29:58):
some holly, you know, a little bit of the holly
would nudge nudge, Like I said, Yeah, the next time
they're in LA I wouldn't be shocked, assuming that the
Osborne's probably still live out in that area. I wouldn't
be shocked if Becky's ran into them, talk to them,
knows them.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Well, you know, you're just hoping at least I'm hoping
that they prep her more than they did for Rajah Jackson.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Oh oh, I did. But by the way, I know
there's a lot of this is the biggest. By the way,
this is the biggest news story of the week basically,
which is crazy, Like you think to yourself, anything else
interesting going and wrestling, It's just like, nah, some mma guys,

(30:42):
fucking kid who. I can't tell what the deal was.
I don't. I'm assuming it's like a mix of a
lot of things, probably a lot of mental I saw
a few makes.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
I saw the takes from Richard's, I saw a couple others,
and obviously the Mark Henry take on it too. So
people people have their their saw.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Not and Mark Henry say, I'm please please tell me.
Mark Henry was like, yeah, that's totally unacceptable. Please it's split.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
So Mark Henry, Yeah, all right. So Mark Henry, according
to TMZ, said about the Psycho stew and Rajah Jackson's situation,
he said, You've got to be careful one with who
you're messing with, and two, what kind of example are you,
as a veteran for inciting a riot with a kid?
Now here's the thing too that a lot of people

(31:31):
point out and they keep calling him kid. The guy's
twenty five years old, so kid Henry. But there's other
people that think that this kid's or this guy is
seventeen years old. It's like, no, no, he's an actual adult.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
This this isn't a high school kid.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
So if indeed what I saw was what I saw,
which is people before the show during the daytime, drinking
an intoxicated or partially intoxicated, and you bust a bottle
over a guy's head, I think it was a can
actually and talk trash like that guy was not going
to do nothing. Yeah, you're a fault.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Oh come on, man, this this to me, like anybody
that's going with that whole like he hit him with
a cantig. I'm like, this is such bargain basement bullshit,
machismo nonsense. I can't. I can't fucking handle people in
twenty twenty five still talking like that. Well, man, you know,

(32:30):
he fucking came over and like, dude, there are a
bunch of people at a wrestling show. He's backstage. He's like, Oh,
you're gonna be on the show. You're telling me that
he didn't think that this kid was probably just some
guy who's kind of like a mark for wrestling, and
he was gonna be like, Eh, I'm with the Stone
gold Stunner or something like. He probably thought that's what
it was going to be more than likely that now, Steve,

(32:54):
for him to me, yeah, for him to assume that, ye,
maybe a little bit of an overstep.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
But really, you know, well, here's the thing that Richards
kind of broke down, and I'm wondering if Richards was
kind of right about this. He believes that Rajah doesn't
know k Fabe, like he can't separate the fact that
wrestling is not real, and he also went on to
say that there's a lot of people still left in

(33:20):
the world that believe everything on TV is exactly how
that's fucking I don't know. I mean, if he's saying it,
you know what I mean. It would be one thing
if it was just another one of us saying or
one of me saying it. But if it's Stephen Richards saying,
I've met people that just don't realize that the gimmick
is a gimmick.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
I don't know, dude. The kid was talking before he
got in the ring, being like I'm gonna beat the
shit out of it, like he was saying it. He
was saying it before he got in the ring, and
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Maybe he meant it. That's what I think that's Richards
was saying, as opposed to he's just talking up the promo.
He's just talking up theaw. You know, dude, there's.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
A lot of people when they're in high school, college,
fucking sadly at this point, even kids who are in
middle school, that they don't realize that they can legitimately
hurt somebody with fighting. There's plenty of those people. Sure,
people that would classify like I said, as you know,
barely be able to fucking drive a car, all the
way up to people who are in there early to

(34:23):
mid twenties, like this kid right right where, they're just like, no,
just beat the shit out of him, nothing bad could
ever happen to me. And it's like, yeah, man, you
haven't heard the stories of somebody falling and cracking their
head and you go to jail for involuntary manslaughter. No,
I just figured i'd be cool. Yeah, well have fun
with that. But this is what we're talking about, the

(34:44):
child of a fighter. Okay, so you can't say to
me that he doesn't understand that type of violence and
he doesn't understand the consequences of it, unless, I say,
unless this kid has some sort of serious mental health issue,
which I believe he may.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
I mean he did why in the ring?

Speaker 1 (35:05):
I don't think they didn't know, mesh, they don't. These
people are probably also just goofy marks themselves.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
The MMA P I'm talking about. No, no, no, I know,
but I'm clarifying what you're saying. If this guy has
been evaluated and has some kind of mental distress, I
don't think they would have let him, in an official capacity,
step into an MMA ring. I'm sorry, No, that was,
and he has a record. I think he's oh and
one or oh and two or something like that. But

(35:32):
still they wouldn't continue training him and putting him in
official matches if somebody knew that he did not have
the mental fortitude to be able to handle it.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Well, massh, it's human cock fighting. People keep trying to
overblow it, like they're like, MMA in the UFC, is
this serious business. I'm like, no, it's not. It's it's concussions.
It's stupid concussions for stupid fucking people, And like, I
completely expect anybody that does jiu jitsu and shit for
self defense or for fitness, and they go and they

(36:06):
do that, and it's like a discipline and a skill.
But if you're choosing to go and have these fucking
UFC style fights for either peanuts or just for like
the lar for the thrill of it, yeah, there's something
probably fucking loopy loop in the head. That's why they're like,
we found him most good. We found this really successful fighter.

(36:28):
And they're like, where is he from? They're like a
fucking crazy Slovakian slum. You're like, oh, yeah, I'm sure
he's doing great.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Oh, don't make fun of Fad or Fador was great.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Come on, Oh man, we found this other great this
other great fighter. Where's where's this guy from? Oh, like
an Irish ghetto. You're like, oh, yeah, that's that's probably
going good too. That guy's probably not had any sort
of drama or crazy shit happened to him.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
No, No, I know what you're saying. I just figured
that if this guy is as heralded as he is,
and like even Dan out he's a legacy, you would
think that there would have been somewhere along the line
that somebody would have done a mental examination of this kid,
That's all I'm saying. And if that's the case, then
someone absolutely knew that he shouldn't be stepping in a ring.

(37:17):
Whether they did it or not doesn't really matter in
the long term of things, but that means that somebody
else is culpable for what he did in a weird
way if they knew that he was brain damaged in
some way. Now, as far as this goes, yeah, what
was it twenty two shots or some crazy amount like this.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
There's no excuse for this. I mean, come on, And
like I said, I'm not surprised by like the older
Gen X fucking boomer nonsense of being like, whoa, you
just respected my honor put up your dukes, and then
like beating someone almost to death and being like, ah,
you learned a valuable lesson today about not throwing cans,
Like fucking what the fuck is wrong with you? And

(38:01):
still the idea of this kid having grown up around
violence and understanding fighter and like you said, he went
and trained right supposedly, No, I'm a trained fighter. Something
tells me that even probably the most wonky ass fucking
dojo would say to you, Hey, if you've punched a
guy five times in the faith and he's completely fucking unconscious,

(38:23):
you don't keep going twenty more times, right, So he
knows the kid knows. Oh I don't know, man, I
just blocked out or something. And it's just like you
just blacked out because you're at a phony fucking wrestling Well,
that guy's letting you hit him. Get fuck off.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
That's the part where I'll agree with you that even
if he does have a mental disability in some way,
he was very aware because there were people the referee
tried to pull him off, Like I mean, I know
that they did kind of a lazy job. But even
in MMA, you know, as soon as the ref starts
touching you and pulling you, you quit. You're done leaving
the fuck alone. And he wasn't doing that, so at

(39:01):
that point he made the conscious decision to keep pummeling
this unconscious dude.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
So yes, well, dude, there's everybody has seen that video
online where it's you know, like Bully doesn't realize he
ran into like a trained boxer or something like that. Right,
everybody's seen a video like that, and when you see
that happen ninety nine percent of the time. The people
that are the boxer, you know, the secret MMA guy,

(39:30):
what do they do. They pushed the guy away, usually
one punch punch, fucking call it a day, because that's
what a person who's actually trained to fight and defend
themselves does. This kid just muckled the fucking goal.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Out, just beat these after the first punch or was
at the second punch that he dropped bag.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Well, first of all, he gave him the fucking slam
and he was unconscious at that point, and then he
kept hitting him while he's unconscious. Right, I'm sorry, I'm
not entertaining any of this fucking nonsense from anybody where.
It's like he goaded him into this fucking deal or whatever,
and I'm like, stop. The only thing that's the only

(40:13):
little thing that I will say in this situation. And
this guy probably didn't know it has like eighty fucking
ninety to ninety five percent of the people that are
trained to be wrestlers aren't taught this kind of shit
because they think everybody's just in the wrestling world. Like
you said, you know, some people just believe it's real
or whatever, but like they're not in the wrestling world.
If you're gonna let some goober in the fucking ring

(40:35):
with you, look at him and go, hey, do you
know what a stone hold stunner is?

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Right?

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Hey, do you know what an RKO is? Can you
do that? Like you give him something that you know,
like you can barely you couldn't fuck this up, And
the absolute worst you're gonna hurt me is still not
that bad. There's a million of those fucking moves that
you can do that you can teach to somebody. Like
ever been to a really shitty, you know, indie show

(41:03):
mission seeing the girl manager who's probably one of the
wrestler's girlfriends give like a bulldog, right of course? Ever
see that happen, Like it's like, okay, we can't. You
can't fuck this up. Literally run with my head and
following your ass. Can you do that? All right? You're fine,
Like that's what you're supposed to do with these people.
You're not supposed to look at them and be like, hey,
pick me up in the air and slam me in

(41:23):
the ground and punch me in the fucking head ten
times or even twice. Like, like I said, I'm not
trying to blame the guy for it. But that's one
of those moments where you're like, you think somebody probably
would have said, hey, man, clearly this guy's fucking so
fucking guy.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Here we go. Let me ask you a yeah point
plank bet. Is he completely at fault? Is Raja completely
at fault for knowing what he was doing out in
the ring? Or do you shoulder him with maybe he
didn't understand what was going on because clearly there might
be something mentally incomplete upstairs? Do you fault the veteran,

(42:02):
that poor psycho stew or whatever for instigating this with
a beer can?

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Like?

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Where is your clear cut stance?

Speaker 1 (42:10):
It's the kid they almost beat demand to death? I mean,
I'm sorry. Like this is, like I said, the only
defense that I could even remotely have in terms of
being like, how could we have avoided all this would
have been exactly what I stated, which was, Hey, if
you're going to bring somebody into a wrestling environment where
you're not sure how they're gonna act, you're not sure

(42:31):
what they're gonna do, you make it crystal fucking clear
what they can do, what they're allowed to do, what
they should do. You know, Like somebody said in the
shap room like a clothes line, all right, yeah, sure,
fucking throw a clothes line at me? Can you do that? Like? Sure?
Sounds good? Like you don't even want to say, throw
a fucking punch. Take your own bump, control your own bump.

(42:53):
You're working, or you're working with somebody that doesn't know
what they're doing and what's happening, so don't let them
dictate what's going to happen to you.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Let me add this picture as well, just going based
upon different accounts. Underneath the Mark Henry's comments, there's a
guy named Green Devil who said absolutely his fault at
the beginning, totally. But they shook hands and explain the situation. Yes,
that happened during the stream, that I'm going to fuck
him up until they pull me off of them. The

(43:22):
guy gave his body and trusted him and he took advantage. Yes,
so at that point it's more than just premeditated.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I mean, the kid was saying on the thing, I
am going to beat the shad out of this guy.
He kept saying it over and over and over again.
I am going to hurt this guy. I Am going
to beat him up.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
That's weird that he would be in a conversation, obviously
with the wrestlers, and everybody came to the conclusion that, yeah,
this is going to happen. That nobody smartened him up,
clewed him in, figured out that oh no, this guy
thinks it's real. He's actually going to fucking hurt you.
I'm kind of amazed that he could be surrounded with
so many people well in wrestling and nobody fucking got

(44:08):
the the the ringy ding bell that said, hey, something
ain't right with this one. He's a little old.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
He clearly seems incredibly fucked up when he's talked, and
I'm like, Okay, that probably should have been the clue
to say no. But this is where And I'm not
trying to assign any sort of guilt to these people
at all, because clearly this had nothing to do with them. Sure,
but it does trace back to the aw wrestler mindset

(44:37):
where they once again think everybody's a fucking huge mark
and they know who Okachaki Makachuki is, and everybody walks
around pretending to give each other fucking ddts like they
don't they're just it's Mark. Shit. They think that's what
everybody's like. And at least in that environment that guy

(44:58):
probably thought to him. So I was like, Oh, this
guy a wrestling fan too, he'll fuck around, he'll play
around or whatever, blah blah blah. And that wasn't the case.
But there is so much of that in the locker
rooms at least, you know what I saw towards the
tail ended and I don't even fucking bother anymore, but
like towards the tail end of it, it was a

(45:18):
de mystification and a strong markification of things to where
it was like, you're just fucking around and you just
live in this world where, like I said, everybody's a
fan and everybody's in on it, and everybody's pale, and
they all know what we're Oh, guys, did you day
the day? And it gets silly and it gets stupid

(45:39):
like that. And now we've gotten to a point where
there's entire indie companies run that way, wrestling schools run
that way, fucking regions of the country where that's the
vast majority of the people that are being brought up
on the indies are with this goofy mark mindset where
they think, once again, everybody's in on this, and the
old anything they care about is fucking wrestling, and then

(46:03):
they're never met with the reality of like, no, you
have to explain this. This isn't the most popular thing
in the world. Not everybody cares about fucking Kenny Omega
and super ridiculous Chuck Alcata. No one cares, right, that's you.
But like, it is very fucking wild to me still
that anybody saw that uncensored video and saw how that

(46:25):
played out and their response to that wasn't Yeah, there's
something very wrong with this kid, and that was obviously
a crime. That's a crime, you know.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
No, I agree with you. I just I'm just curious
as how far does the reach go. Ninos actually threw
up a video from a part of the video. I
just didn't see this part before where he was talks
to by a guy wearing a cowboy hat. I don't
even know if people know who this guy's name is yet,
but yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
I know I see it.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
You fucking give them his receipt, Remember what I receiated
give them tag this ship got a fucking problem, went
it off, ran out there. So yeah, I think I
even saw Steven Richards talking about this part earlier too,
where he was actually kind of preempted to give the

(47:21):
better receipt and tag him like, I mean, we kind
of understand what that means. Maybe it means something different
to an mm A guy, but tag, I think is
kind of universal. Right, Am I being stupid? I'm not
trying to be stack No, I know you know you're
not analyzing this ship as.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Still a line. There's still a line where I think
to myself once again where it's like, oh, yeah, you
punched a guy once and if you're believe me, I'm
not mister fucking karate jujitsu man or nothing like that. FLA.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
If there's a referee that comes in there, it doesn't
matter if it's m m A or wrestling or what
and starts tapping on you, I'm pulling you back even
in MMA. That's it. Fight is over and you know
it's done. Yeah, the referee was in there pretty quick.
I mean maybe by shot six, but still that was
that was at least eighteen before he was gone.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
You know they're in shock. I mean in that moment,
I'm thinking about it, Like, dude, I've I've been in
the ring with guys and I've put together unfortunately a
little too late, where I've been like, I think this
guy's got a concussion, like a shit like that's happened,
Like you're not to be fair. The one time I
specifically remember it happened, the guy had a fucking mask on,
and until it started to get real, well, I'm like, oh, bolly, okay,

(48:37):
yeah this is not good. But there is such thing
as like, yeah, you're thinking some guys are going to
get in the ring and throw a fucking punch, and
now he's beating this guy near to fucking death in
front of you. Most people aren't like used to that, right, crazy,
I know, like most people are used to that, And
this is one of those situations where like I can't

(48:59):
even claim that I would know what to do. I'd
probably myself like fucking freeze, like most people that aren't
used to watching somebody get their face caved in by
a giant fucking man, Like most people aren't used to
seeing that. You know, most people like like, oh, like
that dog's got three legs, Oh that lady's got big tits,
Like they're not used to, Hey, look, here's a fucking

(49:22):
gigantic MMA fighter beating someone I know to fucking death
in front of me. Like they don't know what, I'm not, even,
like I said, to fully blame some of these guys
because they're freaked out, they're confused, they're fucking losing it,
you know what I mean, funny enough in that situation
and not funny, but you know, the guy who was
taking the beating, who is a VET with PTSD, would

(49:45):
probably have been the guy that probably would have been
able to break up the fight if it had been
happening it's somebody else. He'd have been the best, probably
the best case scenario to be the person be like,
oh shit, I'm reacting because I've seen the type of
shit happen in my life, the craziest thing that fucking
referee probably ever saw in his life. It's like one
time you saw somebody get in a car accident and

(50:05):
he was like, ohh that was crazy, not that you know,
but it's, yeah, I don't know. It's still fucking so
weird to me. And I'm not saying there's like a
ton of people talking this shit about like you know,
he got it fucking coming. But to the people who are,
I'm like, God, help you in your fucking life. If
anybody you ever know has some wild shit like this, happened,

(50:26):
because then you're gonna have to you're gonna have to
say that with your whole throat. You have to say
that with your whole fucking throat. Or something like that
happens to a friend of yours or's somebody you care about,
where they like, oh, they got into a fucking you know,
they were joking around at a fucking you know, club
or a bar or you know, a fucking house party,
and then some guy almost beat him to death. Well,

(50:46):
shouldn't have been doing that. Yeah, all right, have fun
with that man, Go feed your friend through a straw,
your fucking weirdos.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah, I just I think it's just Honestly, a lot
of the conflicting opinions are coming from a place of
they still believe that everybody understands.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Pro wrestling, well they think everybody understands it, or or
they're like, yeah, you don't fuck around with guys, Oh
yeah you don't, you know, just fuck around with people,
and I'm like, I'm sorry, you gotta act like a
fucking human man.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
But there also relies on people understanding pro wrestling like
it's just it's this weird thing, and I think you
hit the nail on the head when you were talking
about it just earlier, where it's like it's it's real
difficult to even believe that there's anybody in twenty twenty
five that doesn't understand what pro wrestling is, especially in America.
If we were in Japan, maybe is there more k

(51:39):
fabe in Japan than in America? I would assume, right, well, you.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Know what, how about we put it at this and
there is no insult to the country because I know
that it has you know, it's it's semi developed and
has its shit together to a degree. If the people
that are doing soft ground yugand in wrestling understand that
that's not real, then you don't have a fucking excuse
in Dallas Tech to be like what is this thangled
pro wrestling? You know, like if you're in a place

(52:06):
where and like you've met him a friend of ours
who's from Uganda, it's like they have that there's people
that are like, oh, there's witches and shit, like they
still believe in shit like that, but they know wrestling
steak right, right, So if they if that's going on,
like nobody's running up to the people during the soft
ground wrestling things and being like, no, you're going to
kill him, Like they know it's fucking fake. So I'm

(52:28):
gonna guess. Rampage Jackson's twenty five year old son notes
pro wrestling is steak, right, We'll go on that limb.
We go on that limb and say, I think he
knows that it's not fucking real, especially if he's sitting
front row watching it for two hours. He's like, that
didn't connect. Huh h, he's super He picked him up
and gave him a super plex, like it sure looked

(52:50):
like he was kind of posting on that guy's leg
to go over on that, Like, no, no, there's no
excuse for this. It was some weirdo internet clout thing
where some kid he was streaming on one of these
things with it fucking kick or when I just basically
that those types of platforms exist for like jen alpha

(53:11):
idiots with mullets to commit crimes and call it entertainment.
That's why that shit exists, Like to just like go
up and harass fucking people and act like a shit bag,
and they're like, oh, you guys having fun watching this,
and then the people that are watching them are like, yeah,
go do it again, because they're just fucking around with that.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Right, No, for sure.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
If anything, my probably my biggest problem with that is
it leaves a place where people who are probably already
unwell to be further taken advantage of. But I don't know,
it's it's all more interesting to talk about the Monday
Night Rath so well.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
I mean there was some good matches, yes, sure, right
Jesus Christ. No, I mean I think you've pretty much
set everything on it. My opinion is is I think
the guy is and I'll agree with you. I think
that he wasn't all there, yes, of course, And I
think that, you know, for the most part, he wasn't

(54:09):
really clued in. I know people are showing it and
told him, you know, give him a receipt, tag him
and shit like that. I still don't think he even
understood what was meant by that, because that would mean
that he would understand what wrestling vernacular was. So I'm
not taking away the fact that he did this intentionally,
but I think you're dealing with somebody who might be

(54:31):
a little slow, a little oh, I would be well,
do you know what I mean? Like, because clearly he
broke the rules, even if he believed he was in
an MMA match, right And I'm not saying that he
blacked out, but even if he believed in that moment
he was in an MMA match, he still ignored the referee.
He still knows that even a match, or even a

(54:52):
spar exhibition, he would have been disqualified right there for
even punching a dude after a referee tap too. Like
it's it's malicious no matter how you paint it, you
know what I mean. I just think that maybe we
give him a softer blow because I don't think he's
all there.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
I would almost have to assume that, especially when there
was the video of him where he's on the phone
with I think it might have been his dad or somebody. Yeah, yeah,
he's like he's in the hospital right now. He's in
the intensive care unit and they don't know if he's
going to wake up, and the kid goes, h, my bad.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
I do think that it's done.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
You're bad. Oh you're bad. Okay, gotcha.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
I do think that his doctors, whoever examined his mental
acuity should probably get questioned along with this. I have
you made it public that he's got some mental issues?
Are you a shit doctor? Or is somebody else covering
something up, like I just you know what I mean,
Like I hate saying that because it makes everything sound

(55:57):
like a conspiracy when it could be just fucking laziness whatever.
Or it could be the fact that, like even Dan
brought up earlier, he's a legacy guy, so people don't
want to be forthcoming with information like that. But clearly
there's something wrong. Clearly he's not in the right frame
of mind, especially to do a pro wrestling angle or match.

(56:18):
It's just I don't know, man, There's there's a lot
of dirty hands, dirty fingernails in this one.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
You know, well, hopefully Rampage Jackson saved his money because.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
But I disagree with Mark Henry. I don't think that
there was anything that this guy really did to deserve
that kind of an ass whoop. And I'm sorry. I
love Mark Henry to death, but yeah, this is this
is one that I would have to be like, ah,
it's your opinion, but like what am I gonna say?

Speaker 1 (56:46):
I love the idea like Mark Henry, Like yeah, man,
and I'm thinking to myself when you're reading that to me,
Mark Henry clearly did not do enough looking into this,
you you know what I mean, Like there's no way.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Why would CMZ about it too, Mark Jesus Christ, go
on bust it open and say some wacky shit like
that and then have Bubba and and everybody else and
Tommy Dreamer fucking clap back or something and have an
interesting debate. But yeah, go on, go on fucking headfirst
to TMZ with this is wolf.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Real real quick, though. Can you not also picture fucking
dumbass Bubbaret Dudley excusing this. I could completely see him
doing that too, because he's a fucking meat stick. I
could see him being like, if you don't want problems,
don't ever do nothing to nobody ever. You want to

(57:42):
be like yeah, but you want to just be like yeah, Bubba,
because he used to stand in the fucking ring and
antagonize people and tell them to get in the ring.
And somebody got in there and fucking stabbed you, I'm
sure you'd be like, well, I asked her that to
be fair, I said, his mom sucks cox so she
deserves so he has every right to come in and

(58:03):
stab me almost and put me in the icy.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
My view is if somebody hit Mark Henry and the
head with a beer can, Mark Henry has the right
to kill him. Is that what he's telling us.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
I mean, at least, you know what, at least in
the case of Mark Henry, he is from Texas.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
He's just defending his own Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Well, in Texas, they're just like, if somebody says something
bad about your truck, I think you're allowed to kill
them and throw them in the oak.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Hey, in Texas, you know, we ban porn, we ban people,
we ban religion, but guns a okay, So you know.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
They're like, like, listen, there's two things we love doing.
Putting the Ten Commandments into classrooms and beating people to
death for minor infractions. Those are a two favorite things
like Christ would want.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Yes, of course, I think that was in Genesis.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Right, be godlike and never forgive. That's what I think
would be the way to do it. No, it's it's
fucking idiotic. And like I said that, I won't be
surprised if in the next forty eight hour news cycle
this gets brought up to Bubbare Dudley and he says,
I would I would have kicked his dass. I would
have kicked the jas two. Give me a fucking break, Yeah, people.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Yeah, So the Becky Lynch Nicki Bella promo was.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Yeah, that was real good.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
That was awful.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Monday Night Raw happened, Oh it was.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
It was just bad. Through and through dragon Ly versus
JD McDonough was okay, but there was a couple of
spots that were a little sloppy. I guess they're trying
to present JD McDonough as the high flyer against Dragon Lee.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
So and he loses, Yeah, loses all the fucking time
and I and it's very funny to me because nobody
I think it's almost I don't want to say similar
to Dom because there's no chance of him ever reaching
that level of popularity. But I feel like JD McDonough
was that guy. Even when he joined the group, it

(59:58):
seemed like most people are like, why the fuck is
this guy here? And now it's like, no, yes, consistently
has good matches, he's always in shape.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
They missed the volt on him. Yeah, I remember he
was injured. Me and you were like Jesus Christ the
way he got it, cracking his head on the edge
of that announcer table and him getting up and finishing
the match, or like Jesus Christ is kids tough. You
bring him back and you make them tough, this tough,
little angry dude, and they brought him back and just
inserted him back into the program like nothing ever happened.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Continues to be a madman and want Yeah, I God,
I hate the Fantasy book, but they're not booking. I
could only see this going in one direction at least hopefully,
would be when Finn finally leaves the company and or retires,
you have JD retire him. Yeah, that would that would
be the way to do it, where it would go
along those lines, if you know, like I trained you

(01:00:52):
and I brought you into this business, and now you
think you're better than me. And then they do like
a career versus career get back or something like that
because it kids talented.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
But they even know that though too, because there was
this time there was a promo in the backstage right
and they had Finn and Dominic talking and dom told
Finn to go take care of aj and shit, and
he's like, fine, fuck it, I'll do it. I'll do
it on my own. And then JD McDonough pops up
with like a red gash across his fucking head. He's like,
you need some backup, and Finn just looks at him like, no,

(01:01:23):
just chill, I got this. But it's just one of
those things that clearly WWE wants you to realize how
tough JD McDonough is. He just got his ass handed
to him and he's still ready to go out there
and kick ass for Finn. So it's not like they've
even forgotten that the guy's tough. They've just done nothing

(01:01:43):
with it. Nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Do you know what I would have to say, Like,
as far as what we get with JD mcdona as
a character, he's what in an ideal world and if
he'd have developed anything resembling a personality, what Pete Dunn
should have been? Yes, yes, Like where's Pete Dunn hit
this wall where he just looks like a homely weirdo

(01:02:10):
in a lady's one piece bathing suit that came out
with nobby knees having stupid shitty spot matches and weighed
one hundred and thirty pounds. Jad McDonough was like, oh, no,
I can do that. I can do that, but much much,
much much better.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Well that's the crazy thing too, is Pete Dunn had
the gimmick. That gimmick works, the scrappy do Irish gimmick worked,
but Pete Dunn didn't. And then are you all calling
me bitch? Don't use the B word. That was the dumbest,
dumbest finish of that story. But yeah, Jad McDonough would

(01:02:45):
have carried that mantle a lot better.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Yeah, but that's you know, he's getting featured. Like I said,
the shows are fucking redundant. But I guess if you're
going to put some people on shows to be like
these are our these are our match wrestlers, he's one
of the better ones to have do it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
You know, Penta and Kofi were great. I actually like
that match a lot. Once again, Penta is a strong
part of the show. I think he needs more storyline.
I have no problem with him feuding with the New
Day Right now, it feels like they're all kind of
in limbo. And I know one of the things that
we've talked about before is that there's no real mid
card feuds anymore. This definitely feels like that. But it

(01:03:24):
almost feels like one's on their way up and the
others on their way down, and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Boy Boy or the New Day on their way down.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Dude, Oh, there's nothing that's saving them from big wacky
hats to to fucking matches with I just man the
New Day for whatever reason, just can't get any fucking traction.
I still think they direly need Biggie in their corner.
And I know you're underneath the I know you're underneath
the ice.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Wait wait wait, wait wait you mean it was his
named Irish guy or Irish Australian guy. No, oh, God, Graycer,
you think Grayson Waller, You mean he can't compete to
the charisma of Big East Jesus, Come on now, sir,
He's awful. Yeah, that's that is a fucking dude. They

(01:04:14):
might have missed this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
He is the fucking albatross that team. At first I
thought it was interesting for a day, and then that
became the next day and it was very boring. I'm
sorry he's he's not good for them. And and the
problem is is that Grayson Waller working with the Austin theory,
another guy on his eventuality out of this company. It's

(01:04:36):
just you're sinking them all. I think they're all they're
all on their way down and Penta. Penta's good, but
this is not the feud. If if he doesn't go over,
I don't know what's gonna happen with this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
But what you do with it? But the last hour
you might have missed it. They then had New Day
due a promo and it was fucking rotten. Really, it
was rotten. There is another like your stinky, your town
is poopy, and I'm like, oh guys, just what this
doesn't need to be three hours. It was such useless,

(01:05:11):
fucking filler. And unfortunately, I thought Xavier would have good
chemistry with Penta and they didn't. Kofe had better chemistry.
Goffey I think had a better match, pull the better
match out of them, but that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Boxer too, And that's not That's not the New Day's fault.
That's WWE's fault, because I don't even think it's Netflix.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
For sending them out there to do it again.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
No, for having that kind of stupid ass promo. Look,
they still censor the crowd when they say you fucked
up or whatever. Something is shit like, they still censor
the crowd. I'm like, dude, you're on a private premium
streaming service. Why are we censoring anything? Why is anything
underneath this weird FCC law when it doesn't fucking apply here?

(01:06:00):
What you're afraid of pissing off the people watching on
Disney and Thailand.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
I think that it's almost craziest at this point that
we're pretending, like who, first of all, who were we
protecting from the swear words at this point? I don't know,
we're pretending in twenty twenty five that children aren't hearing
swear words? Are we still doing that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
That's the thing which they don't have to fucking internet
that WWE was the company that, oh, twenty years ago
or yeah, maybe about twenty five years ago, were the
ones that were fighting the PTC so that they could
do whatever shit they wanted to on television. It's so
weird how circular it is. It's almost as if Steven
Richards came back as Right to Censor, he would just

(01:06:43):
walk down the ramp and smile.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
Yeah, He's like, oh perfect, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
My mission is completed, and then just fuck right off.
Here's a paycheck, Stevie.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
You know, Pence beat me too. And I was going
to say, oh, you mean the same people that were
encouraging kids to go around and say suck it fucking
right five years ago, now they're like, oh no, if
they hear the swears, I'm like, they're all on YouTube,
they're all on TikTok, they're all on Instagram. All of
them are hearing swears all of the time. The only
thing you can hope for is they don't go somewhere

(01:07:13):
and use swears in public to get themselves into trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
I think it's dumb that we are still in a
society where we believe that TV is supposed to watch
your kids. Yeah, oh god boy, I mean, don't get
me started on that free speech shit, but I am
very much against that TV is supposed to watch your kids.
I will always that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
Well. There's also it doesn't even have to be the TV,
that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
It's like, oh, we have to keep everything. But no,
I'm not even talking about that. But I mean, if
you're looking at the streaming service as a TV platform,
which it isn't. But apparently the way that Netflix or
WWE is still dealing with raw, they're pretending they're still
on the USA network. It's like, stop it. Can we
stop it? Can we stop pretending that it's the TV's job. Oh, son,

(01:07:59):
you can't that it's not a Why seven? How about
you just look at what the kids watching and say no,
and by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
If we're still talking about a family or the environment
where people are angry about swears and bad words or
whatever any of that anymore, those people are actively overly
probably monitoring their kids, paying or at this point, so
they're not letting them watch wrestling anyway. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
But the problem is is those people are the ones
that are complaining anyways because they don't want anybody else's
kids to watch it either.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
I make sure that little Jimmy never watches Raw because
Raw has the swear words. But the real problem is
is all of his friends at school do and I
don't want them being a bad influence on little Jimmy,
So I don't want them watching Raw either. And that's
what it is. It's just bullshit. It's a bunch of
Karens that are networking. That's what the internet is. It's

(01:08:54):
fucking there's.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
It is very funny to me that we're still pretending
that there's decorum all.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Oh Jesus Christ, you better, you better fucking censor that.
There's too much too much tata in that picture there.
Oh yeah, Stephanie and U. Yeah, yeah, maybe that's the
real reason she's not on TV.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
I was just gonna say that possibility.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Stop being so sexy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Listen, we have a real problem with you being this attractive.
You know, well what do you?

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
Yeah o g saying that Netflix shows are far worse.
They they have a Temptation Island type show where basically
the whole thing is is you're on the island with
your ax and your whole job or your current is
to like cheat on them with other people and everybody's
walking around in fucking g strings and banana hammocks.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
But you can't say you can't say you know, you
fucked up show? Yeah right, these people are.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Simyl they're they're simulcasting blow jobs on screen. But no,
it's are okay to watch that. But you know, w
W E ross terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Let me tell you when I was a young when
I was a young man, that he entertainment fucking late night.
Oh boy, that kept me afloat. And so if you're
telling me that they're not sitting there going, oh yeah,
what's this temcation love Island or something like that, and
they're like, in this week's challenge, we're going to rub

(01:10:29):
oil all over each other and then they shoot to
like one of the most attractive people you can and
it's like I can't believe that they're gonna rub oil
over me. And there's like another way. It's a wow,
I het this is crazy. And that's the whole fucking
When I was a.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Kid, Even when I was a kid, you know what
we had. We had Telemundo. That's what we had. Talomundo
commercials were enough to get a kid from point A
to point B. Let me tell you, I.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Like, you're like when I was a young man, we
watched the weather. We had the weather, goddamn it, and
we're just fine. But no, Telemundo commercials were crazy. They
tried to sell you a taco bell and like a
G string bikini.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Yeah, it's like Sophie.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
It's like they had a they had commercials for like,
you know, people and puppets, and they go to the
host and she's got like her triple DS hanging out.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Of her chest. It's you're like, what's what's this for you?
Like the Church of Latter Day saying I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Spanish, Mom. I know I'm Hungarian and Japanese, but I
really feel my Spanish skills are lacking.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Closed store God damn, it wasn't even be over my room. Yeah, no, dude,
it is such a fucking goofy. The show was incredibly goofy.
I don't I don't know what to take away from
it that was really positive, like that, there's a fucking

(01:11:56):
pay per view on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
I want to talk about that because I'm not gonna
be here. Oh you're you're gonna be solo again, my friend. Yeah,
so let's let's hit this up now because there's nothing
that's gonna happen on Friday. John Cena versus Logan, Well,
let's do it like this, sorry clash in Paris twenty
twenty five at the Nantara, France at the oh it's

(01:12:21):
in Nanta, France, Jesus Christ at the Paris Law Defense Arena.
Is that as American as I could pronounce it? That's
a law defense? Yeah, John Cena versus Logan, Paul.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
John Cena, Hey, come on, but okay, Logan, Paul is
gonna have one of his you know, one of his
matches that's gonna be on ESPN and all that other shit.
Like it's just this is a social media match. We
know that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
They would not be surprised if somebody like Drew McIntyre
gets involved. Oh boy, that's why I give it the
question mark, because yes, Logan Paul could technically take a
w here, but it would only be to support Drew
McIntyre versus John Cena.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Oh and say Patty too.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Yeah. I don't know. I just I can see Drew
versus Sena.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
And yeah, maybe our truth gets involved to of course.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
I think it's gonna Yeah, I'm going with clean dub
Sina Wins. Yeah, there's this. I don't know. They just
turned them motherfucker baby face again for the last three months.
They're just gonna have him win all his ship and
go out. I mean he dropped the belt, they got
that off of him. So now it's just Sina wins,
Wins wins, no matter what. That's how it's gonna go.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
I'm assuming Becky versus Nikki singles for the WWE. I see.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Oh boy, fucking what of Palooza? Yeah, Becky just keeps.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Saying, yeah, are we really gonna fuck give Nikki Bella
a run?

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
That would be funny if they did, wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
I mean it would be Aproposa this summer, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Wait. Wait, I got an idea. What if Cuckoo Bailey
shows up, because Cuckoo Bailey could show up and cost
Becky to build, and then cuckoos here. I'm going to
make sure that you win the bill.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
I never said this statement two years ago, but when
is liv coming back?

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
I know, I know, Live kid, dude. It really is
a goddamn problem that we lost Live Morgan, and after
years it would be like I just Live Morgan or whatever.
Now it's like, God, damn it, this is a real problem, dude.
We have Morgan's back on this show.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Well, they didn't even have Stephanie occur in any kind
of real competition. They just lost Naomi, which I think
really did. It's crazy to say this, but it really
did kick the roster in the ball because I think
that if Naomi had the title, this would have been
a Summer in Naomi. Naomi would have been the focal point.
Ria Ripley is tap dancing with the fucking Asian squad.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
So she's going through some sort of like anime opera.
Oh like we're friends. No, we're not friends, so sad.
I'm just like real Rip should be beating the shit
out of people.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
It's Ray's fucking bizarre adventures what's going on. It's not great, dude. Yeah,
the women's division is direly hurting. If you give Nicky
Bella the title, that'll fix everything, guys, won't it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
If you give him mouse a cookie, if you give
Nikki Bella a belt. Yeah, we know we're we're at
a bad spot. But yeah, more than likely it's just
Becky just with match.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
I am looking forward to though Seamous versus russ good
old fashioned Donnybrook match, and Russev continues to have the
little good vignette promos and stuff. He's he's big on
a horse right now, saying that nobody can tell me
who not to hurt. And I'm like, okay, it's simple.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Is it very pretentious to me to say this? But
is this the match on the show? Like it's just
just the like they're gonna this is gonna be a
wrestling that they're gonna beat each other up. It's a
big men, they look tough, They're gonna do some fucking holes.
They're gonna punch each other in the face. Is that
Is that the itch that's getting scratched by this match
and pretty much nothing else on the card.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
This is what I'm paying for?

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Yeah, that's what it feels like, That's what it looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Yeah, this is the match I'm paying for. Who do
you got on this one?

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
I mean you'd almost have to assume it's RUSEV even
though it's overseas, because you gotta put you got to
put some fucking heel over on this show going over. Yeah, well,
Becky's Becky's supposed to be the heel but you know
whatever she's gonna go over, Bruce Ev will go over,

(01:16:56):
Sina will have his big win, and then of course
our ship had Rolins will win the main event too.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
So that's more than like Roman and Bronson.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Oh okay, I forgot about Roman and Bronson. So here's
here's my question for the Roman and brons and things.
So they kind of set you up with the bit
of Roman, you know, stood tall at the end of
their interaction on Monday. So does that mean everybody in
their grandmother comes out and fucks Roman over and you
actually have him or Bronson pin him, or do we

(01:17:27):
just go with the most predictable thing where he just
beats him and then fucking takes the shoes off him
and hits him in the ass with them or something
and embarrasses him and makes him look like a dickhead
overseas Roman. Yeah, no, you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
If it was in the States, I say, you could
absolutely play with that other idea of having a thousand
people show up to kick the show out of Roman overseams. Overseas,
it feels like a stretch. You want them to go home.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was the opener too.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
I oh, yeah, they're given well, I mean, we are
giving Roman reigns basically the Bronc lesson te min at
this point, that's true. He's like, I need to get
back on my private chat and get out of here
as much as possible. Don't you know I'm fucking Roman reigns.
Don't you know that? I'm sorry, I know that Romans
is currently the biggest star in professional wrestling, but you're

(01:18:16):
still not You're still not going to fool me into
the fact where I don't remember that this guy was
fucking pushed for ten goddamn years to varying results until
he finally found himself over by half a dozen people
making him look good.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
I'm sorry, I think it's funny that Seth Rollins is
going to go over see im Punk jay Uso in
La Night. I think it's funny that you have three
faces in there, and the only way that you can
make this believable still is by having Seth go over
for some fucking reason.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Well, well, you also have to make sure that you make
the faces look incompetent and stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
Well, they all have inner turmoil, but that's every fucking time.
Can't there just be two people that get along? Why
does it?

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
Like even La and I was correcting Jackie redmand or
whoever the fuck, it was like, whoa, whoa, Well, that's
a lot of assumptions there, lady. It's like, no, we've
been watching the show. It's that assumptions. It's what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
Yeah, we have eyes. But there's also something to the
effect of like they're already having them blow up at
each other and beat each other up every week, as
opposed to like, Okay, here's the pay per view, here's
the plee. That's when it should boil over. That's what
you caught to the match, instead of for like the
last month, we're like, oh, these dipshits can't get it together,

(01:19:35):
and then they're like, I guess who's even bigger dipshit
it's jay Uso, because jay Uso was told by his cousin, like, oh,
you need to stop being nice to people, right, You're like,
the only thing jay Uso has is being nice to people.
That's his only fucking character is being like a nice,
fucking damp towel that people walk all over. And then

(01:19:55):
he occasionally fucking wins big matches. That's who he is.
Do we think he's gonna be I'm a tough guy, right.
I don't see that happen at any time soon. So
they're just muddying the waters. But don't worry, because all
this is going to be is We're going to take
three baby faces, have them fight amongst each other, look
like morons, and then Seth Ronds, who's supposed to be
a heel, out smarts them all by letting them beat

(01:20:17):
each other. It's fucking terrible fucking booking. It's terrible writing,
and you'd expect that these people would know better. You'd expect.
I'm sure Punk is just trying to make lemon out
of you know, lemonade out of lemons. I'm sure he's
trying to do that. Jay us doesn't know any better.
And I'm sure Ellie Knight is just glad to be
in the fucking main event. But god, it's just just

(01:20:38):
Seth Wins cares fucking cares. Fipeur asked, with this show,
there you go, Clash of Paris. I do have one
other thing that I want to pull.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
Up, though. It was it was an email to you
to me, well, who sexy? It was basically an update
on what's going on with the prices and the not sexy. Well,
this has to do more with the outside, So gentlemen.
From Paul on the back of the podcast, regarding the

(01:21:07):
wressel Mania forty two in Vegas again the seventy k packages,
I thought i'd share an experience with you here in Australia. First,
I live in Melbourne, which is on the opposite corner
of the Confident or continent to Perth. Jesus Christ, can
I read sorry? For all three nights. The bottom tier
ticket price was fifteen hundred and you need a tissue

(01:21:28):
to help with those nose bleeds. The mid range seats
were twenty five hundred each and top tiers were thirty
five hundred. Floors were part of the packages for someone
to come from another state. They would need to leave
early on a Friday because it's a minimum of a
four hour flight to Perth depending on where you are.
Flight returns for two is about three k each. A

(01:21:49):
double room for four hundred per night, so I took
my son for all three nights would cost us ninety
six hundred with no food or merch. Don't convert this
number to us because the cost of living is not
specific to the currency. They just released a one night
show in October in Melbourne. Tier five seating, which is okay,

(01:22:09):
is five hundred and twenty seven bucks each and it's
at the arena where the Australian Open has played. And finally,
last minute single day seats for the three events in
Perth just went up and the only things left are
over one thousand dollars per seat because most of the
allocation was let at a three let as a three
night packages. I went to the Elimination Chamber last year

(01:22:32):
and whilst expensive, it was nothing like this, although the event,
its organization and timing was impeccable. Love what you guys do,
rustling soup, motherfucker's piss piss are there? Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
I'm sitting here feeling like a horse's patuit, because I
didn't know Australians had it like that, My god, where
they're like and I know he said, he's like, well,
you know the costs of living or whatever. The fuck.
I'm like, be ten ten for you and your son
Jesus Christ. I mean, my god, and lest this dude

(01:23:06):
is very very well off. Which if if that's the case,
then congratulations, more power to you, buddy, Thank you for
listening to the show. You're probably a nice dude. Must
be great to be that wealthy. But I don't know
if Australian's got that, is that what they got going
for him? Because I've I've fucked up, man. I need
to be getting on a flight.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
Yeah, I'm not sure how much they make on adverageary.
I don't off top. I had some ten k is
crazy here just for an event, you know, And I
brought that up to you, and I brought that up
to Jeff like literally minutes. So yesterday I got an
email from Ticketmaster, as a reseller and a ticket purchaser
that they've just changed all their terms of service regarding

(01:23:48):
lawsuits and legal shit. Basically they changed it. So I
mean what I saw obviously goes into depth and it's
probably just nonsense, but basically they're saying you can't sue
them anymore. That's what they're telling you. If you want
to purchase ticket Master tickets, that's fine, but know that

(01:24:08):
when you purchase those tickets, you no longer have the
right to see.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
You don't have rights anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Just so you know, like if that's literally what the
changes were, it's like, you don't have the right to
sue anymore, you don't have the right to become part
of class action lawsuits against ticket Master, et cetera, et cetera.
It's almost like you're signing an NDA just to go
to a fucking event.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
You're signing with the evil see which ursula right to
get a fucking ticket to go? Dude, do you know
how fucking funny it is to be like in this moment,
like I said, I don't know, like he's like, oh,
trust me something to money in the economy or whatever.
It's like, dude, if in Australia, you're going, yeah, we'd
spent ten thousand dollars to go to a wrestling show.
Meanwhile over here in the United States, where like, hey,

(01:24:50):
we just figured out a way to let prisoners work
at McDonald's. Like that's where we are. He's like, yeah,
you know, grand to go to a couple of wrestling shows.
But like, you know, it's just relax. We're like, dude,
we're over here. We got people angry that they want
to raise the minimum wage to eight dollars. So I

(01:25:12):
don't know, it's just it's fucking fascinating to me. But
no either either way, Like he said, you got to
take a fucking and four like a flight in four hours.
It's on a Friday night. People are going to get
to it. Like all of these logistics. I would think
to myself that, wwe must have somewhat thought about this
or are they just like fuck it if we But dude,

(01:25:33):
if they're charging you five thousand dollars for two tickets anyways,
how many people do they really even need. I don't know.
It's just it's fucking bananas to me. I appreciate that email,
but boil boy, Yeah, we need a little bit more
context to try to figure this shit.

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
I think a majority of it is ticketmasters continuously raising
their prices. That's seventy thousand dollars package is probably indicative
of what is going to be the future of chasing
WWE tickets for big events, because they've obviously stretched out
a lot of these events over now to two nights.
I mean, I wouldn't be surprise. Actually, technically three nights

(01:26:10):
or four nights if you start counting in like the
smackdowns and the raws, you're now taking at least a
week off to go see a Summer Slam, go see
a Royal Rumble, go see WrestleMania. That's what they want.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
That's crazy, and I get it. Like the idea is like, oh,
we're making it an event, and it's a lot, it's
a it's an actual real vacation now with like you know,
you're gonna go away, it's a destination. You're gonna go
through this whole thing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
But oh he says, Russellmania will be three nights already, dude,
it's already three nights. It's it's technically, I mean, if
you want to in five I was gonna say, yeah,
if you want to include the Hall of Fame and
NXT in your WrestleMania weekend packages, you go to five
events in three days, four days.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
Easily, Yeah, you go to so you'd have NXT, you
have SmackDown, you have ra, you have the Two Knights
of WrestleMania.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
And the following NXT. If you're gonna stay till fucking Tuesday,
if you went to n X two on Saturday, you're
probably gonna stay till fucking Tuesday, right.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
I can't imagine anything I can't imagine, And honestly, in
a way, I can almost understand an international fan doing that,
because as you get five WWE shows in a row,
you're getting to see all the wrestlers you want to see, sure,
and you're kind of just crossing your fingers that they'll
show up in your country once a year. So that

(01:27:34):
I get. But the idea of being like, my god,
if you live in New Jersey, it's like, you're gonna
see WWW. It's coming through again. Man, you're gonna see them.
You don't need to watch them fucking five nights in
a row. But I don't know the idea of I mean,
the seventy thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Or whatever it was, that would matter more if wrestle
Mania was held in other countries. If they I guess
it's because they're doing it in Vegas. It feels exploitative.
But if they were doing this in Wembley, if they
said seventy thousand dollars for package tickets for front row
at Wembley, I could absolutely see a lot of people

(01:28:14):
trying to sign up to take those tickets because it's
local to them, it's local to their backyard. It's something
that hasn't been done in forever. So if they were
doing this in Australia in Perth, a Wrestlemanian, you know
what I mean, Like, if that was the direction that
WWE was gonna go WrestleMania and Tokyo at the Tokyo Dome, like.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Oh, David finally have to give him five's all right?
At that point?

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
No, he wouldn't you dishonor American people in Japan? You
guide gin motherfuckers?

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
You know what I think they should do? Yeah, and
just you know, in terms of like, by the way,
this is what a lot of wrestling podcasters imagined in
their mind what WWE sits around and does to fuck
with like Dave Meltzer and aw Sure, but they should
run the Tokyo dom and book the shittiest, most disrespectful
fucking card imaginable. Oh have it be like Otis and

(01:29:07):
Maxie verse b fab and I don't bring top Dollar.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
Back like just oh no, I was other ways. I
was like, you know, yeah, like like Omas instead of
Otis Omas versus like Kyrie saying that'd be great, you know,
bring back Shinske Nakamura and have him go up against
Roman Reigns and jay usso it's a handicap match, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
I don't know. I just like the idea of having
it be like, this is the this is the sacred
fucking calf, this is the golden calf. This is the
most important building around. They're like, yeah, we're gonna put
some bullshit on.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
I actually have faith in WWE. Internationally. They seem to
be doing okay with the the Triple A stuff. A
lot of people seem happy with it, and Canada is fine,
and it seems like a lot of their tours overseas
are fine. We kind of look at it with fucking
damaged rose colored glasses with broken glasses. But I think

(01:30:07):
the people there enjoy it, you know what I mean,
that's all that matters. You know, the crowd can't right,
the crowd's happy to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:14):
I mean, it's just dude, it's like anything else, Like
we get it all the fucking time.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
We get it all the time. That Monday was it was,
it was awful. I can't stand that crowd, but they
looked like they were having a good time, you know
what I mean. Like it's just one of those things
that maybe I'm being a little bitter because I thought
the crowd was just stupid with the chanting. But then
I have to remind myself, when do they get the

(01:30:38):
opportunity to chant Joe, No, you're right, every soccer game,
every tennis match, like what.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
Like I said, Like I said earlier, we were like, hey,
you know, they have any event in Vegas right for us,
it's like if we lived in Vegas. We're not sitting there,
We're not marking out over the skyline, like yeah, whatever,
it gives a fuck. But you'd almost be foolish to
say extent to look ato people that are like, hey,
this is awesome. I'm having a great time, and I
flew here from the middle of nowhere and I'm seeing it.

(01:31:07):
Why are you happy?

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
It's like, I know, right right, I get it jaded.

Speaker 1 (01:31:12):
I mean, it is. It is annoying to watch it
on television, but like, I still understand why they're as
pumped as they are because they're not They're not seeing
that skyline every day. And you know, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
True c maax is how many millionaires are wrestling fans?
Not many people can afford not enough on these shows. Well,
I mean we kind of hit that conspiracy theory too,
where they just want to price everybody out. They just
want celebrities to be the ones to buy those packages.
Was it you or was it Andrew? I know somebody
was telling me about this the other day too, where

(01:31:43):
there's a lot of these people that will film their
entire experience of watching wrestle Mania or any of these
big events from the front row, put it online, and
then just collect the money back.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
From they use it as a way to fund Yeah, no,
that was that was probably true because I don't think
I mentioned that, But it makes sense. I mean, that's
what people are doing. It's no different than people now
that make like a complete this as my travel channel,
wink wink, right, Like, oh, I go and travel everywhere
and I make money doing my travel show. It's like, oh,

(01:32:14):
I mean they also get to travel and completely fucking
write it off and right, and.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
Then it pays for itself, and of course there's a
lot of people that want to just play the walk
through instead of actually play the game.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
You know, all this sudde right right, and there's and
I get that because there's obviously, once again, you know,
we're not buying ten thousand dollars fucking wrestling tickets, not
shitting on the guy. But you know, for a lot
of people, the best thing that they can do at
this point at Stateside is watch somebody live. Well. They're
like they're like, wait, they're on vacation. What's that? Like,

(01:32:49):
Oh my god, they're e're rope to go to what
what are they doing? Like, dude, I love the channel.
I'm guilty of it myself. I love that channel Downy
Live where it's the dude and you just go on
traveling events and he just like he tries to ride
trains from like he's like, I'm taking a train from
fucking Europe all the way to Asia and he's just

(01:33:09):
like it's I'm like, oh, this is a fun thing
to watch. But at the same time, it's also me
sitting there being like, boy, sure be nice if I
could fucking not have to live, right, Like not having
fun and enjoying myself and seeing new things and going
new places. Yeah, but that's that's exactly what it is.
And he's right. I'm sure there are plenty of people

(01:33:29):
that are buying those tickets, monetizing the video, putting it
online and going, well, let's hope it even covers half,
you know, Yeah, but makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
Much loved, everybody. We will see you again Thursday. I'll
have g should be recorded later on tonight. Maybe it'll
be up by tomorrow. And of course yeah we'll get
to something going for Clash and Perry with Joe and
I don't know, maybe it's patched calls or something, but
that's that. We're out of here. Follow the Patreon, follow
the YouTube channel. Much love to people live in the hat.

(01:34:00):
Much loves to people that download on the show and
like and subscribe. Blah blah blah, see you soon, piss.

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