JOHN CENA SMILES AT DEATH or AEW = BEST IN THE WORLD? (Wrestling Soup 12.17.25)

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Long, I had to put my nose onto the microphone,
which still puts.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
It far away.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
But that's okay, fucking Sarah, know of Joseph over here.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yes, it's not an easy it's not an easy lot,
and like.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
But I know you're a little classier than that, so
you gotta go, Sarah.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Now, you know, well, could you imagine, like I thought
about this, like the people that go get the fucking nose,
like the crazy nose jobs, you know, yeah, well they.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
What was their name? What not? What's he? Gilbert? Great?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
All the women's wrestlers for the most part.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, yeah, but you know what, I feel bad for
that because I wonder if a lot of those girls
that do that is because they got their nose shoved
in backwards, you know too.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, I honestly think that's part of why Rhea started
wearing the mask, because they probably had to do the
nose gimmick on her. She might not like it, which
I get because you know, she had a regular woman
kind of strong nose, not in a bad way, but
maybe they were like, yeah, well we're going to have
to do a little bit of it. And now she

(01:18):
looks at it, she's like, oh my god, I look
like one of these fucking clowns.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Maybe you know, I mean, but it's weird. It's like,
I think, as far as all the plastic surgery that
a lot of these women get in wrestling, I think
the nose is the one I forgive the most because that's.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh, because they get busted. Yeah, yeah, I get it
to some degree. But like, I mean, I've had my
nose broken I think two maybe three times, I don't remember.
But I know you're not Joe right right right, But
I'm saying like it definitely makes her face look different.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, you're not taking modeling poses for Instagram. Come on, now, well,
what do you think.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
From my fifties? Maybe that maybe my next decade or
next life? Oh yeah, theahal oh that. By the way,
she didn't do anything wrong. I hope people know that.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
They seem to think there, we're a bunch of sickos
these days, Joe, that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Well, she pinned somebody like that. HiT's not her fault.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
I actually saw some people doing it.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Wow, I mean, you know, oh, should have I'm like,
what should she have done? She laid on a girl
for a pin and she didn't kick the fuck out
that's not her fault in any capacity.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
I think the internet disagrees. Man. It's funny too, because
the backlash that we've gotten since Tuesday is actually actually
not even Tuesday. Saturday too. A lot of people really
really stuck it to us about not enjoying Saturday night's
main event, and I still see it trickling in and
I'm kind of laughing my ass off. I'm like, did
you not even see the live crowd that was there,

(02:52):
that was booing the finish and booing triple h and
fuck saying fuck the company in aew So it's not
like we're just the only two people on this lonely
island that didn't enjoy Saturday night Spain events. Pretty sure
there was an audible capacity at the arena as well. Well.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
This is going to be the problem I think going
forward with wrestling fans, and has been for quite some time,
where it's some sort of mix of their opinion, their
interpretation of what they see in the crowd, and what
they want it to be, do you know what I mean?
Like it's like a mix of all of these things
at the same time. Because so many people are so

(03:34):
fucking spoiled by their goddamn algorithms and phones. And I
know it's like, once again, what is the some old
man shit, it's not. It's quite literally what we've seen
happen over time now where it's like if you're never
ever in any way faced with any adversity that's meant
to put any sort of like adversarial message that does

(03:55):
anything other than just like rage bait you right, Like
they think that if somebody doesn't like something that they do,
that the meaning, the whole meaning of it is rage
bait because so much of that really is do you know.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
What I mean?

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Like, yeah, there's such an industry on the Internet that's
based around like, hey look, I'm just here to piece
you as that they think that's everybody as opposed to
just somebody that's watching a TV show.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
But if you're talking about an algorithm, the algorithm doesn't
give a shit about that. The algorithm is just trying
to shove a lot as many sponsors as it can.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Right, It's just keeping you engaged. That's all it is,
is just keeping your attention. It doesn't matter if keeping
you attention by being mad, sad, happy?

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Are you paying bills?

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Cool?

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Listen to this?

Speaker 1 (04:43):
You know, which by the way, but that's another funny
thing that I definitely have to point out as well,
which made me laugh. In terms of people talking about
the Saturday night main event show that we did, there
were people being like, these guys talk about there being
ads on the show, but they too have ads, And
I'm like, I'm so fucking sick, dude, I'm so sick

(05:07):
of explaining the difference between like somebody who has a
big jillion dollar company bilking ads and just like two
guys running a podcast. I don't I don't understand how
I can explain this, dude.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Are you really surprised when you when you have women
and guys doing these interviews where they're like, I expect
my partner to make a million dollars a month for
a million a million dollars a month, yeah, and he
has to be six foot four and drive a Ferrari
at least at least and he has to be able
to pay for my kids too. It's like, oh, okay,

(05:43):
we're living in fantasyland. Fantastic, So the Internet creates well
that's what I'm saying. But the fact that these are
the same people that would compare our wallets, the wallets
of Anthony and Joe to the mega corporation the congloates
that is WWE is uh same thing.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
As Amazons over here. We're running the same business model.
It was also like I saw some sort of thing
that someone put out where Jim Cornett had some sort
of interaction with some fucking right wing guy on YouTube.
Not on YouTube, but Elon's fucking yeah his clubhouse there,

(06:25):
the thing that he bought so he could be liked
on it, and then wasn't uh yeah, he Cornett had
some sort of interaction with him, and so there was
a video talking about how some dude that's like a pundit,
right wing pundit was like.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
He dunked on Cornette.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
And then I'm reading the comments on this thing because
I'm a moron, I should never do that, and people like, yeah,
that's that'll fucking show him, And I'm like, but you
guys also hate the guy that's shitting on Cornett. It's
just in this moment, you're choosing to like that guy
because you hate Cornett more for wrestling opinions. It's the

(07:04):
weirdest fucking thing. And then like I saw some guy
posted he was like have you seen Cornet's wife. Do
you see what she looks like? And I'm like, yeah,
I don't usually judge the looks of fifty plus year
old women. Yeah, like, man, she's not a fucking babe.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
But that's with this part of social relationship that we
have with the internet. People go after fucking citvies. People
will immediately go after civies because they either can't defeat
you in an argument or because they think that this
is the only way that they can make an everlasting
impression on you, so that you'll think twice about having
an opinion. It's like Jesus christ Man.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Which which by the way, too like, I don't know.
It does make me laugh in general with the fucking
Saturday main event thing, because I really feel like both
you and I made a point of saying, hey, listen,
no one's going to be all the way happy with this.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
So problem that was the problem is that that we
did find a lot of people. Even on our Patreon
there was a lot of people, and I'm sure we'll
get a chance to listen to some of them on
Friday because there's been a lot of people that have
put in voicemails for tomorrow's Shitbox. There's a lot of
people that completely disagreed with us, and we're very happy
with how everything went down. And I put that out

(08:19):
there sarcastically. I'm like, well, you know, I mean, everybody's
gonna be happy with everything that happened. And sure enough,
I'm getting a lot of responses going, yeah, we were,
and I'm like, wow, well fucking good for you, because
I mean, I guess mediocrity is the new success.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
But nice, I mean, well that's it too, I mean
to some degree. And it sounds like you're being smug
or condescending or shitty. But it's like when I turn
on the fucking radio, god forbid that happen, or I
hear whatever kind of popular and it's like some really dumb,
shitty song that I know is super popular. Like do

(08:55):
you know that dude Benson Boone, the shirtless guy that
does parkour, acts like Freddie Mercury. No, you probably know
his so he's like, they're beautiful days and off, look
on that fucking guy.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
You've never heard that? Definitely not because it doesn't sound
he gets up my genre.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Stood well, it's it's not. You wouldn't enjoy it. And
I don't particularly enjoy it either. But in that moment
I hear that and I go, you know what, if
you if this is for you, man, you like fucking
I'm glad anybody's having a good time, right and right.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, no, I'm sure because Rustling right now as a whole,
I don't think is doing very well. So if people
are picking and choosing and this is something I've repeated
over the years and so of you, but if people
are picking and choosing great moments for them to enjoy
and Johnsena's retirement against Gunther at Saturday night's main event
was a highlight of twenty twenty five, good for you, genuinely,

(09:49):
I know again, like you were just reiterating. It sounds sarcastic,
but not really, because it's like it's difficult to find
something that's been enjoyable lately with WWE, because everything feels
like it's on autopilot. It's not a running gag. The
whole idea that thought Booker must be an ai because
there's a lot of things that are happening right now

(10:10):
that either end up doing nothing, helping no one and
advantaging no storylines, or they just seem completely fucking silly.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Aimless aimless. I mean, naturally, that's the nice way of
putting it. Almost it's kind of aimless. I was, and
then yeah, yeah, and then obviously the reaction to being
like WWE's aimless is like, well are you what are
you doing? Aw's good, dude, I haven't watched more than
two minutes of AW and well over fucking months, maybe
two months. Like, I do not watch the show. I

(10:44):
forget it's on Wednesdays. When people tell me something happened
on the show, I might see a clip of it.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
If that, right, AW has lost all of its steam.
I mean, we'll talk about them and how happy Tony
and Dave are right now for winning these these Sports
Illustrated awards, but wrestling soup. I am Anthony Thomas, he
is Joseph, he numbers, your excellency. What's going on, my dude?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Oh yeah, well, you know, just talking about the little
nuggets of wrestling news that have spelled out of the
ass of the wrestling world in the past forty eight hours,
that's all it feels like, right.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, I mean it's not really a lot. It's just
it's a lot more of a backlash, right, I mean,
you got people like Vince Russo that are being heralded
as a Saints because of him speaking out against Triple
H at a random, insane clown posse show. And then
you have people like Jeff Jarrett that is supposedly speaking
for the minority of people that are unhappy with how

(11:41):
John Cena lost his final match. And then I actually watched.
I sat down and I watched most of I got
about halfway through, maybe three quarters of the way through,
of John Cena and Cody Rhad sitting down having a
couple of vodkas or what do they call him, gene Oakerland's,
which is basically a full glass of vodka like a
drop of cranberry. So just for color, you know, Yeah,

(12:04):
we call that the VFW special. Yeah, that's what they got.
I guess they call it the Oakland And I mean
it was I'll be fair, you know. I don't normally
listen to Cody's podcast on the regular. Usually I check
out to Stephanie McMahon's on Thursdays, but I haven't gotten
to that this week. I was actually very interested in
seeing what Sina had to say. I also watched one
earlier from the other day with TMZ that they had

(12:27):
a gunther On as well, which is kind of funny,
but John Cena kind of explained. I mean, Cody did
the right thing. They opened up the show and they
got like the commonalities out of the way. You know, hey,
how's it going, blah blah blah, you know, everything's great.
Talk a little bit about this, and then Cody gets
right into the big question. He's like, why did you
smile on the way out? Like, and he's right there.

(12:49):
There was a lot of contention against that.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Oh Cody man hitting them hard, hitting questions, making sure
he gets.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
In that conversation with the audience.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
Yeah, So, as I assented, take my last breath, I
have struggled. If you think of somebody the natural cause
of scenario or however we pict your loss in our life,
all of us have been through it. They struggled, They struggled,
they struggle. They hang on just long enough to make
sure to say goodbye everybody that's been meaningful in their lives.

(13:18):
And that whole day was so many unbelievably vulnerable, meaningful conversations. Yeah,
and then you realize I've connected with everybody I love. Yeah,
physically I feel great. I think it's time to take
that last breath. Yeah, and that's that's that. I hate

(13:43):
to keep going back morbidly to obituaries, but like, this
person died peacefully.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, he faced He faced death with a smile.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
And that's what it was. That's how he looked at
it pretty much. That pin why he was smiling was
because in Johnson his mind he was dead.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
So wait, let me shake I'm gonna shake out. I
gotta shake out. I know where he got this from.
I know he's been doing his acting all right, so
I gotta do. Let's see if I can hit the line.
All right, For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Thee that ish.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
No, no, no, sir, But that is by none other
than Captain A have Yes of the novel Moby Dick.
You might have heard of it, guys. It's actually I
think that also might be a wrestler in a chuckle
old Championship wrestling now, But Moby Dick was a wasn't.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
That a movie with air Fox?

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Or to say, for hate's sake, I spit my last breath,
go ahead and stick him.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
You fuck Moby after.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
So I get to fuck the whale and I get well.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
I mean, that's his concept is that in this moment,
So I mean it was a much longer clip. Obviously
I was just highlighting the important part. But he apparently
had a really emotional day, which makes sense, and obviously
going into the match, you know, he was emotional. They
talked about how they had to actually step over people
just to get down to the ring. So apparently it

(15:25):
was beyond sold out. It was sold out and then
some which is wonderful. You of course want to see
that as a as a wrestler, because they go further
into what the most important thing was. And I know
Cody brings up the word merch and apparently that's a
trigger word for John Cena. He hates that word. So
Cody's like, while we were talking about the numbers and
stuff like that, and then Sina kind of reverts back

(15:46):
to like an early piece of advice. I don't know
if it was only Anderson, somebody gave him advice about
you know, back in my day, we didn't have black curtains,
you know. And during John Tena's match, which you know, oh,
he's like Jesus, that's stiff y'all, Like, is he talking
about rum and drapes?

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Well yeah, but he was tired that yeah, but that
was what that was. The whole culmination of that conversation
was it was nice to see me go out and
retire and there were no black curtains. Everybody was there.
So that's where he comes up with this analogy that
you know, he finds peace and death and the reason
he was smiling with his eyes open while Gunther's choking

(16:29):
him out was because he was happy in his death.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Oh see, maybe that's what maybe John Cena afterwards awesome,
Oh oh wait, maybe afterwards Sena should have stood up
and explained that to us, like inside the actors studio.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
But they had a music video to play. Joe, there's
no time.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Imagine he fucking The match ends and the people are booing,
and then they're like, all right, we're playing the music video.
Take the photograss and se fames and you min and
then scene it's like cut to me, cut to music.
You see what happened was.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I was smiling, you see, like because people.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Hang on towards the end of their lives, you know
what I mean, It's like they're like sundowning.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Do you know what I mean? Does anybody in the
crowd know.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
The term sundowning, and the people are just like staring up.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
What town am I in? Oh? No, wrong, wrong sundowning?

Speaker 2 (17:30):
No, No, what's to do? It's about elderly folks.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
What happens is they start their days later and end
them earlier.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
So sort of like my mattress for the past three
to five.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Years, Robbie says in the chat, He's like, uh, you
know what if I did the Han Solo finish from
the Force Awakens Triple h Ugh, whatever, go ahead and
stick this and yeah, man, for sure, maybe they could
have just put him in carbonite, you know, like just
Sina seeing that they just break open the carbonite one
day and just have him do another match.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Fuck so I get to fuck him like bitch, pussy,
now you will. After you get to fuck him, you
get to fuck Jay all right, I go fuck both
of them?

Speaker 3 (18:08):
That sens I thought that was the most hilarious explanation ever.
What a what a way to to what was it?
Reel it back in? Reel it back or Jesus, I'll
try to pull a Jay us so I can't even
remember his lines Jesus.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
No, dude, it's Sina trying to He's adding depth to it,
and he's like, listen to the but at the same
exact time, and I know I all the time. I'm like, hey,
seek seek layers to your show, try to add more
to it, try to But you're not that dude, You're

(18:41):
You're Garfield.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
You know what. I honestly, the best thing he could
have said was, Cody, do you know how much money
I just made? Like that would have been the most
honest answer. And I think the internet and the fans,
the casual fans would have been like, yeah, okay, I
might have smiled at that last moment too, No, but like.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Truly, what Sena is It's like, yes, adults like him now,
all right, But that's because they started out as children.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
And it's literally at.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
This point, like us talking about the Alvin and the
Chipmunks movies, he was four babies. It was a character
for babies. And yes, now you go, okay, well they're
grown ups now, right, and the audience should have grown
up right alongside with the dog. Bronie's all right, they're

(19:36):
grown men who want to watch my little pony. There's
people now that are so fake, like they are so
delves into the idea of nostalgia and the past.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
They don't want you to.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Throw many curveballs. They just just do the cute thing.
That's what they want you to do, you know.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
I mean there's a lot of shows even in the
eighties when we were growing up, you know, that evolved
with us, right. And I was even thinking about this
earlier before we were even having this conversation about what
kind of shows grew up with you, And I mean,
you can easily do the simple, like the sitcoms that
kind of grew up like the Roseanne, the Jesus Christ
rose the Connord's Family, blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah I did I say Roseanne grew up all right?

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yeah, But I'm just saying like you grew up with
the family, right, Like you can go different strokes and
a bunch of other ones too. You grew up with
these families, and the storylines became more complex. Even the
cosmices became more complex as they added new characters. You know.
Obviously Jesus Christ Fresh, Prince of bel Air was a
fantastic one. You grew up with him from being a

(20:39):
silly kid to being a fucking adult by the end
of the show. And these were examples of what I
think a lot of people expected from the Sena arc
as well, and when you look at things like that,
you bring it back to what we actually saw and
it's like, wow, it's it's really not that it's such
a short sighted version because the writing and the creativity

(21:00):
of John Cena, as much as he wants to promote
the idea that this was like the culmination of his career,
it felt like a letdown for people that have been
watching him since the days of being Doctor of Thuganomics
and then being the super Sena guy, to just be
in what ineffective like I maybe that.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
That's not who he is and like that's how the
majority of the audience like they don't see him that way.
Like I said, it's it's fucking It's the last episode
of the Mighty Morphine Power Rangers and one of the
Power Rangers has a miscarriage or something like it's like, wait,
what are we doing? Like why are we making this

(21:40):
so dark and serious? It's like, you know, Rina Rapugna's
here and she's like, well, actually, one of the Rangers
is having real issues with his mother right now, is
in the hospitals.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
In the Blue Ranger.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
He's like, after I beat the pigs, I have to
take my mother to chemotherapy and uh so we got
can we can we make this quick? Goldar, I have
to you know, I have important things to do today. Well, no,
like but that's it's not He has to be aware
of the fact that you're not the same stereotypical wrestlers wrestler,

(22:21):
and I think that's part of why. And I've heard
recent interviews with John Cena where he was like, yeah,
you know, guys would come in and AJ and punk
and this one and that one, and I was like,
teach me some of your wily indie wrestler ways because
I want to learn some fucking move moves. And it
was funny to see when it happened, and it was
surprising and it caught you off guard. But that's not

(22:44):
what people want for him, right, No, that's not. Yeah,
the people that paid one thousand dollars or ten thousand dollars,
fucking some people were paying that kind of money to
see John Cena retire. They weren't looking for layers. They
wanted something. They more than likely wanted something happy, which

(23:05):
is crazy to think about it.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
It's been honestly, now, I'll take the other side on
this one. I would have been fine if Sina retired
and said, now it's off to go make babies with
my new wife, you know, like it's off to leave
and go to another season of Peacemaker or something like that.
Like there's it just felt like and I know that
that's the character versus the man, But when the character

(23:28):
is dying, as he puts it, then shouldn't there be
a moment where the man connects with the audience.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
All I can think of now is where he's like,
my character died, and I'm like, but what, like all
dogs go to Heaven? Is that for like the most
the most.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Depressing version of it? I don't know, Well, it's a
one where all the dinosaurs died. Oh the land before
its Land before time. Yes, by the way, I.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Love the idea like some of those movies like The
Iron Giant, Like he's depressing.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Depressing Bamby movie. Bamby was one of my first movies
I ever saw in a theater. And yeah, they end
up killing the mom right off the bat.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
You know, well, you know what the funny thing is?
At least Bamby starts out with the horror.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah, yeah, you're just rocking in your chair for the
next hour and a half. Sure are you?

Speaker 1 (24:22):
It's like, listen, the life is fucking hard, all right,
Well now it's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
It's cute. Now watch this cute shit.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
You ready for some cute shit?

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Well?

Speaker 1 (24:29):
I thought about it as I got older, too, and
like now I think about like the Lion King. Yeah,
I'm like, that's that's like, uh too dark. That's that's
pretty dark for like a little little kid seven or
eight years old.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, the dynamics of murdering your brother for power, right,
understanding that your family would kill your own father, your
own family. Yeah, that's that's pretty deep.

Speaker 6 (24:53):
Man.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
It's and then and then, by the way, and your
best friends are food, Like Jesus, what a what a
world dude?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Then, like within mere basically moments almost of your father
being murdered, you're approached by these two people and they're like, hey,
don't worry about it. In fact, we got a song
about don't worry about it. I did just watch my
father be brutally murdered, and then I was. And then
there's chased by hyenas and was going to be eaten alive.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
And then there's the other side of it too, like
the the Black Magic Voodoo Monkey that's over there, Yeah, Raffiki,
the black Magic Voodoo Monkey, I mean yeah, no, Blan
King was pretty fucked up. It really was.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Well, Rafiki, believe it or not, was actually the inspiration
for RFK Junior.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Oh that you're gonna say, same thing?

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Well no, well MGF.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Oh did your father gets thrown off a cliff? Oh?

Speaker 3 (25:58):
MJF here, MJF. Yeah, did they kill your dad so
he could rule the kingdom?

Speaker 5 (26:07):
All?

Speaker 6 (26:08):
But what was it?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
A simba little guy? Is he scar that's it? Maybe
MJF should play Scarf in the next orically they drop
him from that movie too.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
But yeah, the scene of thing for so from pretty
much after that on on Tuesday, I got fucking roasted,
fucking roasted, And basically it was bringing up the stupidity
of me to believe that WWE would even dare dare
run a foreign invader storyline in twenty twenty five, the

(26:44):
Year of Our Lord. Meanwhile, meanwhile, in wrestling, fans are
claiming that AW is throwing them out of shows for
having a Palestinian flag. Yeah no, no, there's no there's
no contention. There's no contest. There's no no foreign ill
will going on. That's just all in my head. There's
only strife in the world. Yeah no, that doesn't that

(27:06):
that doesn't exist. That's my fault. Why would ww WE
ever do such a thing?

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, well, it's it's funny because those same people would
tell you they would go, well, ww we would want
those types of problems, They wouldn't want to have those
types of issues, And I'm like, well.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
They fucking cared. They wouldn't be dealing with Saudi Arabia
if they were really worried about people's opinions of them.
They wouldn't be dancing across the desert every fucking year,
two three times a year.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
You know that?

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:38):
I mean that really is almost like the complete checkmate
on that where it's like I couldn't imagine them running
some sort of uncouth storyline.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
I'm like, they are currently.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
In one deep years they've been running the Saudi Arabia storyline.
Where the fuck have you been?

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Well? I like, yeahdea, they'd be like listen, they could
never have someone come out that gets booed with a
Russian flag.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
And then it's like they are.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Wandering the image of people who saw it that saw
journalists into teeny pieces, right, do you think that they're like, yeah,
we we would hate for us to be looked down
upon by anybody. It's like, yeah, I don't think they
give a fuck. I really don't think they too. And
then you know what, if it makes them a dollar,
that makes sense. So you know, right, and that's it too.

(28:27):
By the way, if they if they felt that they
had a lane to do that, they absolutely would.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
I don't know if they do.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
I maybe they feel like with gun Thar, they don't
even have to go that direction, the youth stupid Americans direction.
They're just like, wait, whatever, that's He's good enough that
we don't need to, you know, weigh in on any
of those tropes. But that is definitely a break in
case of emergency.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah, you have it there. All they need to do
is get out William Regal and pair him up with
him and Russev and you got yourself the new UnAmericans.
Oh right.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
But by the way, I love the idea of them
being like, no one would ever run a storyline right that.
It's like, don't we have a German guy playing a
Mexican guy right now?

Speaker 3 (29:13):
I don't know what you're talking about he's actually under
a mask. I think he is Mexican, right, it's a Mexican,
great Mexican. That's El Grande Superioro or whatever. Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
They have a two British guys and a German guy. No,
no Mexican. Duw that's fake news, fake news.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
I saw that.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I said, Wow, who would ever come up with such
a story?

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Who would.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
What is this?

Speaker 3 (29:41):
What?

Speaker 1 (29:41):
I don't know what you're talking about. I've never even
heard of this Grande guy.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
It was an an age over the Gulf of America
being splashed next to Chad Gables face for two point
two seconds.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
By the way, isn't it funny? Like doesn't that almost
feel quaint?

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Now?

Speaker 1 (29:58):
At this point the Gulf of America shit where like
people are returning on the TV and it's like I.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Knocked Jove at the White House.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
I'm building a sky zone and its replacement and they're like, oh,
that's fucked up, and it's like, yeah, he's gonna rename
the fucking Gulf of Vince.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Russo just got in trouble for that too. Like I
don't know if it's legit or not, because I saw
people saying that it's a fake quote, but what was it?
Was it Stephanie that he was basically saying that her
big problem right now is because she doesn't speak American
And they're like, American is a language, bro, And I'm like,
maybe to Vince Russo, it really is. Have you heard

(30:36):
him talk?

Speaker 1 (30:37):
I know, i'd be like, Vince Russo is a dumbass.
He is a sixty year old boomer, like can you
please remember that? And like listen, but not even just that.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Look when he's saying speaking American, he's not actually talking
about like I know what he meant if you said it,
I haven't heard the clip. And maybe that's why it's
considered fake news and people are out out aged, Poor
poor Vince Russo, that victim. But at the same time,
he's talking about the fact that Americans and British people

(31:07):
speak differently. Sorry they do, and he's talking about for
American audiences and that's what he meant. And I hate
having to break down dumb ass, but there it is.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
I like the idea of being put in such a
position where you're like, well, no, you see, Vince Russo
is ignorant. Yes he is stupid, but let me explain
to you what kind of stupid he is, because to him,
he's coming from the place of you know what, Actually,
I'm gonna give him a little pass on this too,

(31:39):
because he's a good representative of that community.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, of like.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Just dipshit that has never left their fucking hometown. Who
hears someone with an accent and they're like, what the
what did you say? I can't I can't figure it
out because like forty percent of the fucking country reads
on a third grade level, so they're probably baffled, Like
he's just.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
Like, what what did you just say? He'd just say
crump what's a crumpet? Well, they drink coffee instead of tea.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
That's fucking just just like here, oh, sorry, was im
saying something? Yeah, we were.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
I couldn't even hear what did you just say?

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Brown people?

Speaker 1 (32:27):
No, it's not it's British people. Yeah, they're confused by
British people and uh and Stephanie.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Brown, British people are very very confusing.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
I guess yes, Jingleheimer Schmidt, that's.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
The cock accent is a little difficult to understand. That's
about it. Everything he don't pretty much get, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Well, how about just how funny it is, where like
Vinus will being like they can't understand, they can't connect
with anybody like that. I'm like, who's who are you
just talking about? Like I said in that moment, the
truck nutsky that has no fucking any sort of depth
of understanding of.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Sure, have you ever heard the Jordy Shore accents? Those
are brutal?

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah, I've heard the.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah, the Cockney and the Jeordie Shore are very much
I guess will they be considered the Vince Russo East
Coast New York?

Speaker 2 (33:26):
No, it's worse than that. Really, it's much much.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
And do you know what I think it is too
with those like weird fucking British like as the kind
of beaten paths sort of accents as you hear people
do them and you go, oh, well, is this.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
White trash or is this just regional? I don't know
what you just said.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
I don't think I mean Robbie's in the chain, maybe
he can clarify for it. But Cockney, I thought, kind
of is like the South for us, like it's a
differ an area that Cockne is commonly spoken, right, isn't.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
It interesting when you hear people from other parts of
the world, and they also think their south is stupid.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
You ever heard that?

Speaker 1 (34:11):
You ever had that interaction with someone where they're like
people who were from Australia, They're like, yeah, but the
people in southern Australia are fucking morons, Like what is that?

Speaker 3 (34:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
With Australia, there's like a city area and then there's
just like miles and miles of nothing. So maybe well, yeah,
well you know, maybe it's like one of those situations,
that's what it is. Maybe it's like the Appalachian people.
Have you ever heard an Appalachian people talk? That is
a thick, difficult accent sometimes to get through.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Well, it's a wild accent and it's all so neat.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Like I find the ghosts and shit and the haunted
fucking stories of the Appalachia so interesting because people will
be like, yeah, you know, we think there's like a
monster that lives out in the woods and it's scaring us,
And I'm like, maybe it is.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
I don't fucking know.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
I don't know, because then my brain goes into.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Like these five different places right where it's like, do
you think that there's monsters or any I don't know.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Do you think there's that type.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Of shit like whend it goes and skin walkers? No,
none of it.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
None of it.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
I don't fucking know. They're America's fucking big you know what.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
And the reason I will fucking double down on this.
You know what, when it was back in the eighties
and we were still getting Time Life books about UFOs,
are they real? Like, there was some true skepticism to
that because we didn't have the technology to catch everything
somebody does every moment of the day before they go
and murder their Instagram girlfriend. Okay, but now you can

(35:53):
catch that. You can catch this guy picking his nose
at a butt stop, but you can't find a fucking
skin walker that's supposedly haunting your house.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Come on, Well, but you know what though, then my
my response that would be but then we have these
weird like blackout moments where you look at it and
you go like, for example, you know, not to make
it fucking sad, but there was like a crazy mass
shooting in Rhode Island at Brown University and they're like,
we have eight hundred cameras here and we just don't

(36:24):
know who it was, right, We can't find who this
person is. It's like you have all these fucking cameras
on a campus, like this is a real big college,
like we can't get a one picture of this person
clear as day. And then my response to that would be,
then you know what, maybe there are ghosts in the

(36:45):
fucking mountains.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
I don't know. I mean, I don't.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
I'm not saying that it's like a guarantee, but like,
if you live out one of these fucked up rural areas,
you gotta think if if you believe in any of
that ghoststs or whatever would be think of the wild
fucking Native American murdered shit that happened, and wild fucking
tribaled shit.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
I don't know, but they were really worried about ghosts
and stuff. You never hear about Native Americans being terrified
of ghosts. If anything, they're the ones that were very
well connected to the spirit world. They respected their surroundings,
they respected nature when they were in power.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, well that's maybe why they didn't fuck with them
as opposed to us, where we're like, what is this
Indian burial graveyard? How many ikeas do you think we
can fit on top of this?

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Fisting on some femur sticking out of the ground. Yeah,
nothing bad is gonna happen to me. Let's go ahead
and build a cheesecake factory on top of this.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
One, stomping it down as the dirt as they measure
out the the arch of the cheese stake connector you
just hear It's like they just hear drums as they're building.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Try and just start beatboxing to it and shit dropping
some hard Yeah, no, for sure.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
They go, hey, hey, guys, guys, guys, can you tell
the spirits to calm down. We're trying to check the
stereo system here over in this new uh, this new
chee cheese. We have to build up a dying Mexican
chain restaurant. That's way more important.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
But Vince Russo is getting a little bit of heat
oojo speaking of, because he just cut a promo on
Triple H at the Insane Clown Posse show Jugglo Wrestling.
Oh damn.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
Then his name is Triple H and guess what Triple
H used to be a wrestler. So what that means
is Triple H has an agenda. Triple H likes some

(38:55):
of the guys on the roster, doesn't like some of
the guys on the and it has an impact on
the show. He runs fucking because if that's not the truth.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Can explain to me.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
About carrying cross? Why is carrying cross no.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Longer in the WWE. I'll tell you why.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Because Triple H knew that carrying cross was gonna be
a biggest star than he was. Oh now you're starting listen.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Oh now you understand.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
And carrying cross. If you're listening, you are welcome here anytime.
WIT's balletts.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Ugh, Yeah, I like to go to Marshalls to shit
after I eat think dinner.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
I go out to.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Dinner with my wife and then I go and take
a dump into Marshall.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Cross is gonna end up being his new what was
it homeland security when he was in TNA, North cut Security?
What was it called? He had his own security group
in TNA, back when he was running a sports entertainment branch.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Davidian was that who was.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Red shirt security? Thank you, goof thank you? Oh my god,
carrying cross. I like crosses too.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
I carry you know who else carried across our lord
and shave you shit?

Speaker 3 (40:39):
I got that one wrong. I don't think that Triple
H has an agenda I think that's such a weird
thing for him to say. And I know it's one
of these these interviews that's like I'm in character, so
I can say real shit and just blame it on
the character. I didn't say nothing. It's Vince Russo, the
TV guy. But it's like he's been spouting this off
on his podet cast for a while, so it's not

(41:01):
really a fucking a news story or anything. But it's
just weird to hear erro it out like that on
a show, and it's like, I don't know. I mean,
the idea of Triple H having an agenda, that's why
he fired cross In Scarlett. Triple H having an agenda
is why Our Truth got fired. Triple H having an
agenda because he supposedly feels some kind of jealousy. I mean,

(41:24):
you guys were talking. I saw people in the chat
talking about that Saturday. It was kind of brought up
in discussion as well. I still don't know. I think
his only agenda at this point is money. Like he's
too old to go out there and do it anymore.
Why would I guess it doesn't make sense to me.
Why would you have an agenda when all of the
people that you possibly have an agenda with look up

(41:46):
to you, and not just because you're the boss, but
because of who you are. It's a weird thing. It's like,
if that's the case, and this is just me spitballing here,
but if that's the case, and Triple H does hold
an agenda, that makes him one of the tiniest people
in professional wrestling. When you hold all the cards, you're
the boss, you have the power, and you still have

(42:08):
to smash people for doing things that you can't do anymore.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
I mean, I'm sure there's even the slightest bit of
that at play. I'm sure that's a little bit in there,
but I don't think it's at the level that people
assume it to be. If anything, I think he probably
still just want at this point in his life, he
just wants to be liked.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
I think he's just that he's.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Trying to.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Wants to be well.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
I mean, more so than he doesn't want to leave
this legacy. I guess if you want to call it
in wrestling as the shit weasel that he was for
so long, Oh you know.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
What I mean, He's getting to.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
He's getting to go back in time and and fuck
the first gal he ever did and be like, see
I'm doing good now like I didn't. I'm not.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
That's gonna be a little difficult. I mean, gets a
shovel or something.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
But you know, oh, come on, he probably had had
sex with at least two women before her, does Sean
co yeahs if you, if you, if you cross your
eyes like a magic guy, it does.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
I think in nineteen ninety five, Yeah, it wasn't balding.
Back then, it wasn't brutus brother.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
U pushed the cowboy hat to the side. Pal Uh No,
I don't. I don't know. I'm assuming that there was
still going to be that little part of him, just
like any X player ex whomever, you know, like it
should be me, the Al Bundy shit that's going to
always exist, I think to some extent, you.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
Know, I mean, maybe you're right. Maybe I'm just looking
at this half class full kind of thing because not
saying that he couldn't have an agenda. I just don't
see it. I just don't see a need for it.
But it could be right. You could absolutely be right.
The people that believe that Triple H has this weird agenda,
this weird fetish for needing to be gratified by people

(44:06):
in order for them to be placed on the show
in the right spot, or god forbid, given good storylines
based on how much he likes them. Maybe that is
a thing. Maybe his internal need to being liked is
a thing. Which is funny because when he was actually wrestling,
he didn't give a shit whether he was liked or not.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
So I don't know, because it was just a matter
of him getting in the position of control at that point.
But then, you know, I think it's like what happens
with a lot of people. You know, they become it's
the Michael Scott thing. Right, you're the boss. But what's
left after that? What's left after being the boss? Well,
now you want to be liked just the boss, or

(44:44):
you want to be hated, or you want to be feared.
You know, you've reached that top and you go, oh,
where do I go from here? Well, now I want
to be Now I don't even just want to be
the rich guy. I want to be the coolest rich
But here the weird thing.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
That people don't talk about. When you have a wife
and kids, multiple kids, it really doesn't matter so much
what other people think of you. In the outside world.
It really doesn't. As long as you have a happy family,
you always have that to go back to, or at
least a tolerable family, right.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Right, So there isn't out there is some sort of
escape from it, which, by the way, that's also why
so many people do get fucked up on the Internet,
because you're right, they don't have something else to fall
back on. Their whole Internet world's nonsense is their whole life.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Yeah, it's going. It's completing the circuit in order to
make them feel whole. I mean, that's why there's so
many people with AI girlfriends and there's such a big
rush and towards getting AI robots to come and you know,
clean your dishes.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
So huh, I gotta say to that.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
And it's like, I'm one of those people where you know, whatever,
whatever works for your life is hard enough. But this
idea that anybody would gleefully move towards the option to
be like, listen, what what do you need to have
any sort of conversation with anybody? Why don't you just
fucking fuck your robot that will say how great you

(46:17):
are all the time. I'm like, that's got to be
great for your great for your mental health. Well, that's
got to be great for your brain, well.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Without without the physical robot part. But we'll just talk
about like the AI girlfriends, like the girls online. What's
the difference between that and the nine hundred numbers.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Well, well, the nine hundred numbers were expensive. I think
that would probably be at least that was there was
a limitation to that.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Yeah, it was your credit limit Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Yeah, and there's also parameters.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
I feel like in that situation too, right, And maybe
this sounds a little crazy, but when someone's like ring
ring ring, Oh, hi, you know, horny moaning, I'm just
here in and out today, there's a big difference between
that and being like, let me tell this robot my
deepest fears.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Yeah. I think there was probably that too, though, with
those weird nine hundred numbers. I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Oh, I'm sure there was some of those guys that probably.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Are a social relationships even back then with their favorite
girl in the back of a magazine. I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah, just let me tell you about my inadequacies.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
I'm sure that Hey, it's your four ninety nine minute pal.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, and ironically enough, if you don't have insurance, that's
the same thing as going to a therapist. I think
price wise, probably by the time you get their whole hour,
you'd wish it was five dollars a minute. Yeah maybe, Jesus, Yeah,
what a fucking steal and fish.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
I can't do that on the therapist's couch.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah, that is the downside. You do have to wear
pants to the therapists unless you do telemedicine, I guess,
but you know you should still do that anyways. That's
kind of unsettling to do to do to a professional, right,
a professional like Vince Russo, Like, can you dude, Vince
Russo doing a promo on Triple H like that, it's like,

(48:13):
once again just dusting off some of the class I
feel like it's two thousand and seven again a bottom. Yeah,
these guys, Triple H.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
You fucked up bosses daughter.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Oh shit, not only did he fuck are you impregnated
her a few times too? There, Vince, Jesus, you know.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Triple H you have a big fucker nose.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Oh shit, he's getting them, He's getting them. Slay Slay queen. Like,
I don't know, it just feels uh, I don't know, guy,
it feels manuf But it also feels a little homie,
kind of like a warning sweatshirt, you know, like, oh,
everybody hates Triple h again.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah, isn't that nice? It's cozy. It's like I remember that.
But we all like Vince Ruso, now right, is that
what happened?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Well, let's let's calm down on that.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Do you know what?

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Like the same way, like the way that people want
to believe fantastical things like I said, like the wind
to go or people living in the fucking monsters living
in the mountains or whatever. You almost hope that there's
some sort of afterlife where you get clarity on some
of these things. Like we just found out after we
died that actually Vince Russo was the baby face all along.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Yeah, that'd be weird.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah, Like it all just comes out in the wash
like you're like, well, actually, no, he really was the
good guy.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
I can't. I don't imagine that world. I like Vince
Russo as the bad guy. He makes points sometimes, but
for the most part, Vince Ruso is is what's wrong
with wrestling a lot of the time.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
But I also but this is a question, this is
a good question. Do you have you read this? I mean,
we I talked about Moby Dick earlier, so let me
I've read both of his books. Yes, yes, Moby Dick.
All right, very well, here is I listen Bro. I
told him the last name was awesome, but the first name, Bro,

(50:20):
we gotta do something about it.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
You're a whale, So how about a big whale? How
about big Dick?

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Why don't we call you Whaley mcdick?

Speaker 3 (50:31):
Or how about Sonny Siaki Dick?

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (50:37):
How about this? I got I got one? How about
Eric Watts Dick?

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Bro Sunny Siaki is like he tried to make me
dress like a whale, he told me I need Oh
I know. How about shark boy Dick? Yeah, I have
this other wrestler.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
His name is shark Boy.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
So you will be Willy Mick Dick and shock boy
and get get get this, get this. We're gonna call
you Ocean spray bro shot. You can figure out what
happens next, all right?

Speaker 3 (51:17):
If we go from there, Yeah, just take take some
pointers from oh what the fuck is his name? The
one that's Joey out of his mouth? Oh no, the
other one Orlando Jordan. Orlando Jordan, that's spit come out
of his mouth. Yeah, yeah, Jesus.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
We're working on something for Orlando Jordan to join Ocean Spray.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
It wasn't come bro, it was maya days. That's just right.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
His blowhole, is it?

Speaker 3 (51:51):
God?

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Yeah, No, dude, he's a fucking idiot and that's and
I think that's what it is. It's like, I'm never
going to assign malice to somebody that I think is
just fucking stupid, right right, you know, like somebody who's eve,
they're dvs or they're up to no good. I'm like,
some people are just kind of just fucking dumb and

(52:13):
they just have to figure out a way to survive.
And sometimes that's bamboozling other people who are dumber than them.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
So let's get to this cause I kind of wanted
to talk about this a little bit too. But big
news for the AEW camp, Joseph. If you didn't hear,
the twenty twenty five Sports Illustrated Wrestling Awards are out.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
I'm a big aw fan, now, you know.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
I mean, we're both sickos now. I can't wait and
sweeping most of the awards for wrestling happened to be
aw Tony Kahn went online to say on behalf of AEW.
Thank you to the fans who watch aw and thanks
to those journalists the panel that voted AW as the
top company and recognized eight of the top aw stars,

(52:59):
with AW winning a total of ten Sports Illustrated Wrestling
Awards in twenty twenty five. Congratulations to the award winners
and team AW on these hard earned awards. The awards
that aw one and twenty twenty five are Promotion of
the Year ALI Wrestling of course.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Ow I think WWEE has been bad this year, and
that's still ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Yeah, that's ridiculous. Shit, it's still if anything, you know
who I would have given it to Triple A. They
literally went from completely nothing to actually being entertaining and
talked about and integrated and doing very well with Dominic
and al Grande, Like it's it's people at least talk
about it now more now than I think in the

(53:48):
last fifteen years of this show so easily. Female Wrestler
of the Year Mercedes Mona. Hmm, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Mean that's great, by the way, isn't this doesn't this
doesn't this feel like the first year that some people
have finally caught up to us about her? Doesn't it
almost feel that way to where you're seeing an actual
or we saw an actual backlash. Now I think it's

(54:21):
just general malaise. Yeah, you know where I still see
people who they want us to like play the hits for.
You're going to talk about Sasha's match at this pay
per view? Why why we know what it is? She
wrestled for twenty something minutes, almost killed herself, almost killed
her opponent three times. She has seventy five belts that

(54:45):
seventy two of them are from companies nobody's heard of.
Cares doesn't fucking mean anything. At some point, it's just
redundant for us to even talk about it.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
You know, Male Wrestler of the Year, Hangman Adam Page.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Jesus oh uh.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
I never would have thought in a million years that
this would have been the the iteration of Hangman Adam
Page that gets rewarded.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
The people pretend to like this is so goddamn good.
By the way, Dominic Mysterio deserves that more than Hangman.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
No, he's not Hangman Adam Paige. That's his problem. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Like someone's like, well he wonder a w championship, I'd
be like, because a ship who cares?

Speaker 3 (55:36):
I mean they could have. I mean, they could have
even given the easy me and said John Cena, you
know what I mean, like yah, for fuck's sakes, hangman
Adam Page, fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Still we're still doing that. We're still doing the Hangman
Adam Page, pretending that this guy's ever going to make
them a fucking dollar.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Enough enough yet Joe Tag Team of the Year, Fuck.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
The Revolution, they're still doing it too. I mean I
thought they were done. I thought they were just kind
of in and out, not really getting much attention or
hype or Dax Dax Harwood. I haven't seen anything they've

(56:23):
done in a.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Year complain about podcasts or something. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
I just probably unless it's unless somebody said something nice
about them that week, then they liked them because they're
not insecure, man, babies, that's definitely not the case.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Best in the Ring, Joseph best in the Ring, will
Ah Spray Ocean Spray, will Aspray.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Oh, he's he's the best in the.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Best in the Ring.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
When was the last time he was in the ring?

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Six months ago?

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Still the best?

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Why isn't he in the ring anymore? Is because he's
so good that's got to be the reason has to
pay him to get in. You know, he's not in
the ring right now because he's so good at hurting himself.
That's what it is. I mean that I don't know.
I'm I'm a old fashion here. I think to myself,

(57:17):
if you're thirty years old and getting a nex fusion,
then you didn't have a wrestling career. You did a
bunch of fucking stunts. That's how I kind of see it.
You know, best this is a lot of no missed
real quick. Because there's a lot of death match guys.
He's basically a death match guy. That's athletic. I'll leave

(57:38):
it at that.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Best on the mic, best on the mic, not best female,
just best on the mic, overall timeless Tony Storm.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
That's that's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Dude, Live Morgan is better than Tony's Storm on the mind.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
I by the way, I get white people think the
character is entertaining. I get it some extent, But are
we really doing this thing where it's just like that
once was a man from Nantucket and they're like, this
is the best thing I've ever seen in my life.
Still still and by the way, I would still tomorrow.

(58:17):
It was like, hey, would you take Tony Storm over
most of the men in the Yeah, oh absolutely, you
could make more money with her and create better television
and do more interesting things. But the idea of me
like this is the best promo in all of this.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
She's so much better than Paul Haymon, you know.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
But then again, I guess, you know what, if they're
going to stick them with state cop and these goobers,
she's got just as fair She's got just as much
of a puncher's chance. I guess at this point.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Breakout Wrestler of the Year Kyle Fletcher.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
All right, any wait, wait, Like I said, I haven't
been paying any attention to it, but I do know
that this happened, isn't it The guy that just went
twenty minutes with the Karate Dwarf and lost to him.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Yes, Christ, that's his breakout year. The guy that just.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Breakout Wrestler of the Year. El Grande Americano motherfuckers, how
about that?

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Yeah, you're not wrong on that. Well, I mean you
got to remember, you got to remember that time that
Kyle Fletcher went to Mexico and Maine evented and had
what thousands of people singing along with him in another
language that's not his first language.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
Remember when he did that?

Speaker 1 (59:35):
No, but I think, but I'm pretty sure he does kicks.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
He does kicks.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Did you know that?

Speaker 2 (59:41):
He just kicks and then doesn't sell?

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Storyline of the year Hangman Adam Page's redemption arc? Stop it,
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Was he being redeemed for? Can somebody tell me I'm
dead to you? He is? What was the him fighting
with Swerve? Was it him overcoming his alcoholism that they've really?

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Yeah, there you go, Dan burning down a black Ey's house.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Which, which, to be fair, not nice.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
You know what, that's a not nice thing to do?

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Or Orton did it first? Right? So Jesus, Rivalry of
the Year, John Moxley and Hangman Adam Page.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
That's fucking awesome. Yeah, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Okay, the fuck show of the year, Joe Show of
the Year, Hangman Adam Page on aw double or nothing?

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Oh did Adam Page? Did Adam Page write this?

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
I mean, holy fun? I think I think Dave has
a new girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Just yeah, Jude, Jude, if you, if you would you
give your own wife this many awards for her like
in her workplace, if you came and observed it. Would
you be like best best person who doesn't even do
the job she does?

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Best, best one of the house that does dishes, my.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Wife, man of the house, My wife, Like what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Best person to get mail from the box? My wife?

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Well, by the way, do you know what's kind of
awesome about this?

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Though?

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
In a way when you hear it, this is like
the difference between somebody saying you've won a pick. I
don't know what's a fancy car that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Do you?

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
What's your favorite fancy car? A Maserati? Okay, I don't
give a fuck above it. I don't know much about it.
I like I like Nissans. So that's the level of
trash I am so. So that's like as someone who's like, hey,
would you rather have a Maserati or the cops give
you a little plactice's best driver?

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Do I get out of jail free with the best
driver plaque?

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
If anything, now it's more expensive for you to drive.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Yeah, because now they're paying attention. They really want to
take that plaque away.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
You're just driving down the road, you look like you're
gonna roll through a stop sign, and just see the
cop doing the two eyes pointing them, Adham pointing at you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
He's got two guns on you because one isn't enough. Ship.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Listen, listen, bro that plaque anybody, that's anybody's chance, man,
don't fuck it up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Don't fuck that up anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
It's not a right, it's a privilege.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
And then Mish blows by in his maserati that he
got for free.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Yeah whatever, you know what with with the news going
on today and yesterday, Joe, everybody in Chicago's doing it,
so why.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
Not they're stealing maseratis.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
No, they're just fucking driving on sidewalks, busting through warehouse
gates at ninety miles an hour, running down people. Yeah, no,
it's it's a crazy It's like car wars over here
in Chicago lately. So yeah, that's that's cool. I think.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
So that's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
You know what, maybe separate the real joggers from the
casual Listen.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Maybe some of you casual drivers think staying on the
road makes sense, But yeah, I'm a sicko and I
think driving on the sidewalk is fucking cool.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Yeah, we gotta start running in the streets, guys. That's
the that's the ticket. Cars aren't in the road anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Driving backwards through the front of the dunkin Donuts.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
That's fucking cool.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
That's what cool guys do you fucking losers want to
drive on a street? I'm hitting black eyes, spinning out,
smashing in the school bus. Wait, no, no, whoa hey, No, no,
not with my vehicle.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
I mean that's okay, Ice?

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Oh what black Ice?

Speaker 6 (01:04:05):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
I heard black guys. I'm like, Jesus, Joe this, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
I think I think there's some of them here. Bro,
I can't say that too loud in this Apartmentrican, I
don't understand.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
I'm sorry, Jesus, he can't. He said, let me ask
you a question. I said, I don't. I'm not a
hatchet man. That's insane, clown posse Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
I really need him jamming out of the concert, I
really do. I know he said he's a big fan.
Now he's a brand new Juggalo. But I really need
to hear Vince rus So. I need to see Vince
Russo at a concert. Just I don't know, it'll complete
my soul a little bit, you know what.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
I hope when I'm in my sixties, that's when I get.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Into the job. Oh, dude, just Vince Russo all painted up,
whacked out on god knows what drugs have been thrown
into his drink with some like slutty trailer trash, fucking Juggallette,
just drooling on the inside of his thigh, just doing whippings.
Oh yeah, whipp It's like it's nineteen ninety eight. Yeah,

(01:05:25):
it's great.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
He said, I'm going to shangrilah git the rest of
my juggle low friends.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
I don't know. Oh the fucking Sports Illustrated wards suck.
I mean it's yeah, but I mean it just sucks.
Just nobody can be honest, right, It's just there's nothing else.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
And by the way, like don't don't get me wrong here,
like I'm not sitting here being like, hey, you know what,
if you really thought Hangman page was the best the year,
that's that's your fucking deal. You know, go ahead whatever
you want to feel about that. But it's very strange
to hear a publication that's like listen where Sports Illustrated, right,

(01:06:15):
We're we're weighing in on the heavy topics and sports.
This is like if they ran out like a football
fucking thing, like a football rankings, like a pro rest
what's it called oh my god, pro football focused something
like that, and.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
They were like ranking stop or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Yeah, they were like ranking CFL guys above or like
USFL guys and college guys like listen, we know, we
know that Matthew Stafford has had a hell of a year,
but but what about dark McGirk, right, that plays for
the Saskatchewan Sillybillies.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
It's like, what the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
I even think it's that shoe. I think it's simply honestly,
it's an their money thing, right ESPN suppose he has
lock on WWE or whatever their relationship is worth. So
why wouldn't Sports Illustrated attach themselves to aw Why I
have Sports Illustrated be the the AW fans sports publication.

(01:07:18):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Maybe you know what though, maybe that's their their angle
as far as like you said, the Sports Illustrated can
get access to WWE people.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Of course, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
They can get them, but they can't get them like
they can a w talent, right, like they can really
get them on the line also, and I just remember
this too, isn't Rawlins tied in with ESPN or FS
one or the something they have him? Yeah, so maybe
in their minds are like, we're gonna fuck them.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
That's what I said. I think it's the total financial thing.
It's just bullshit, Like objectivity is just dead at this
point point. The ESPN stuff, we know they cover WWE,
but we also know that they have an open contract
with them. They're making money off of wwepls, They're making
money off of WWE subscribers. Sports Illustrated doesn't have a

(01:08:14):
wrestling promotion, so why not? I mean, fucking aw is
almost out of a home too. Why not just attached
to two? Maybe they can die silently together, you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
Know, Yeah, maybe that's that's the future, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Yeah, your opinion is based on who's paying you or
who you can leech money from. Yeah, that's pretty much
what we're at.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Well, boy, well the future is now. I guess what
am I talking about? Man, there's going to be this
crazy thing that happens. People's opinions are influenced by money, right,
that's could you imagine a world I am where something
like that could happen?

Speaker 3 (01:08:53):
No? No, I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
You couldn't imagine. That's that's almost like an old c
captain trying to find a whale. Yeah, and the ocean
his entire life.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
That's just shark Sharknick Yeah, shark boy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Yeah, shaking, shark shaken shark Dick. By the way, I
remember Lil Wayne when he put out I think it
was like the Carter five or something like that. It
was like one of his albums when he's on his
tail end. There was a there was a song where
he said it, and there was like an opening track
where he's like, I'm in the ocean getting shark pussy.

(01:09:27):
And I just remember that sticking with me, where I
was like, they used to say this man was the
greatest rapper alive, and now he's saying I'm in the
ocean chasing shark pussy. I was like, that happened? Does
that happen to all? That's just what happens. And by
the way, this is where it goes, will circle mission.
Maybe that's what John Cena wanted to say. Well, you

(01:09:49):
know what, Jeff Jared had a thing to say about
that too. He was on on his podcast, I believe,
talking about it. He says, this mythical time honor tradition
that is the big, bigest bunch of bullshit I've ever heard.
It's almost goes against the grain of every territory and
really even through hull Comania days in the nineties and
all this. What do you do to a legend? You

(01:10:11):
protect them. You make up for it by you make
up for their shortcomings in the ring. You make up
for this. Why do I think it was the single
dumbest finish because I think it's a direct slap in
the face of the industry. Never give up.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Do you know how impactful it is if I'm in
a room full of bankers or TV executives or friends
or whoever it may be, and I can look in
the face of a non wrestling fan and say, do
you know who holds the record for the most make
a Wish visits in the history of that organization. It's
a professional wrestler. It's John Cena. His whole mantra, hustle, loyalty, respect,

(01:10:49):
never give up, and you're going to give this bullshit
that we got to get heal, heat on a heel
and the time honor tradition. It's the silliest, most ridiculous
argument that people are throwing up because when the fans
are chanting in the post show, how could you come
up with another scenario where the fans are chanting, aew.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
He's not wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
He's not wrong, Jeff Jarrett and I've softened my stance
on him in the past decade or so, and that's
mostly because so many other people have gone completely off
the fucking rails. But he's obviously gonna have more of
a head for this than a lot of people entering performer.
Do I enjoy him now? Could I have gone the

(01:11:36):
rest of my life and anything proceeding having seen him
never wrestle, Yes, I would have been fine with that.
But he knows what the fuck he's talking about. I mean,
in this situation, he's basically saying what you and I did,
which was this guy is for an audience that we
don't need to do all that for. He comes in,

(01:11:59):
he beats somebody in the middle of the ring, everybody
jumps in the air, beat Skippye, and everybody moves on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
With their lives.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
And everybody would have been perfectly fine with that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
By the way.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
This is what's funny now when I think about it too.
If Sina in his last match had beat Dominic Mysterio
as two people that are big, big fans of him,
would you been upset about that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
No, no, of course not. But I think that I
think it would have meant more to dom to beat
Sina than I do gun there and because we never.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Really brought upsh But how about he beat him the
month before, which he already did, and then loses him
in his last match.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
That would have been fine, right.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
Yeah, it's fine, but that still goes against my point.
I mean, Dominic needs a lot more of an establishment
than Gunther does. And I don't know if people have
forgotten that Gunther held the title for how many fucking
days multiple times in NXT and on WWE. It's weird
that and I get it. His new gimmick is gonna

(01:13:02):
be killing killing off old wrestlers. That's gonna be his
new gimmick, right, and that's mine. I guess when you've
given a guy two different title runs that are unmatched
in the history of wrestling, you know, maybe that's the
only thing left for him, is just shang souoning everybody's
fucking soul on the roster.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
I like the idea of him now filling the role
of enlarged hearts and cocaine. Sure, yeah, that's like we've
replaced you know it used to just be bro Bru.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
How about we change your name from Gunther to jay
Usso's ulcer.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
You know, like, what if we change your name to
crippling addiction.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
But that's what I'm saying. Gunther doesn't technically need anything.
Gun There would still be a monster force with or
without Sena. I liked the idea of Gunther going up
against John Cena because once again, it was the tournament
and who else was it gonna be? Jay Uso? Like
it's just so, I mean, in that scenario, Gunther was
my pick and I was happy that gun There went

(01:14:07):
against him. But then there was there was caveats to that,
there was addendums to that. I wanted Gunther to win.
I wanted him to beat John Cena down. If you're
going to take somebody that's a legend and you want
to build up this heel heat, like Jeff Jarrett was saying,
it's stupid, but if you're going to do it, fucking
do it. If you got the gun and the bullets

(01:14:29):
loaded in the gun, shoot the fucking gun, just do it.
Don't sit there and go, well, you know, I'll shoot
the floor first, you know, like, no, just fucking do
them should have beat the shit out of John Cena
and really built up the idea that people hated him,
which goes back to your conversation with me on Tuesday
when you were like, well, what in the fuck do

(01:14:49):
they hate Gunther for? And people are like, well, people
hated Ivan Drago and I was like, okay, yeah, I
mean I guess that's a thing. But that's all a
movie too. These are real, live reactions. The people there
aren't being paid to boo or cheer, and it's kind
of like, I don't know, man, there was a depth

(01:15:10):
to what you were saying, I think on Tuesday when
you were bringing up the character and why everybody hates
Guntherro now all of a sudden, and it's because it
basically comes down to it because he's a heel. That's
why everybody hates him. Because he's a heel. Yeah, So
that's Is that really enough for everybody? Is that the
level of mediocrity that we've come to accept as good

(01:15:31):
as success, because I mean I had to. That's when
I deep dove into the idea of me he's the
foreign invader. That's when I deep dove into the fact
that he took glee from winning his match. Like I
was literally that the role I was playing in our
discussion was grasping at Straw's guy and I was trying

(01:15:52):
to help out the fans, and I still got fucking
lamb blasted for it. But you know, it's just.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Well, it was funny to me because I did see
people be like, well, the reason why the guy's backstage
were mad is because he went out and did a
promo after you know where He's like, yeah, I choked
out John Cena.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
I made him look like a bitch or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
And I'm like, well, yeah, he's got twenty thousand people
booing him for ten straight fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Minutes like the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
You guys, they were angry at him because he went
out there and he cut us a promo about Sina
on Monday for sixteen minutes, And I'm like, oh, like
you mean sixteen seconds? I mean, I mean, is that
what Seth does every fucking week? Like, and they try
to treat him like a face?

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Right, It's just Oh, by the way, I gotta give
a I gotta give a good shout out here to uh,
just to Ceev Richards for this for being one of
the only other people I've heard who are willing to
tap dance around the fact that Cethrollin is overrated, over
pushed and over liked. Like you can hear it when

(01:17:00):
he talks and he mentioned Seth he'll put those little,
those little jabs in there, He's like. But for some reason,
he's the only one they just keep giving chances to.
I'm like, just say it, Say it, Stevie. I know
you would, to fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
Say if Stephen Richards came back in twenty twenty five
with a white shirt and a long black tie, Dude,
I would mark the fuck out, I'm telling you, in
a world, in a world of WWE that direly needs managers,
I fucking need the RTC back. I'm just saying, and.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
It's they desperately need it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
I mean for a world of wrestling where they're ret
conning angles and characters all the time. Why has this
one not been brought back when censorship is more an
issue now than ever, Jesus Christ, Stephen Richards on the
censored Netflix of all things, just it feels like it's kismet, Like,

(01:17:58):
how do people miss that Netflix is still censoring everything
on raw? Why they have no one to answer to? Now?

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
This is one of those weird moments that where you
looking at it, you go, do you not do it?
Almost because it's too real?

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Oh my god. Maybe. Oh they're saying RTC versus Stephanie. No,
you know what Stephanie is in RTC? Are you kidding me?
She starts buttoning up. No more, Devil's kiss. Devil's Kiss
is done. She's wearing pants, suit pants, suits in an attitude,
that's what she's doing. I do like the idea.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
I've seen people say it before, so I'd be stealing it.
Where it's like, if you ever wanted to turn her heel,
all you'd have to do is give her pants.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
It's just like fucking boom Jesus Christ. Well, you know what, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Gonna be interesting when she works at for a Saudi show.
You know, people are gonna be like, who is it?

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
No, they're gonna do what they do. It's a well,
I mean, I don't know. I'd like to think she
has balls, like like Krusev's wife there, right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Oh I think yeah. I think she came out. I
didn't you see her whole arm?

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
No? No, no, she was showing leg and everything. She
was gorgeous.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Ooh that's crazy. What a wild what a wild world
moving toward.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
That, people like Bailey and stuff were pretty much wrapped
up in duct tape. Yeah, that was pretty wild.

Speaker 2 (01:19:29):
Old potato sack Bailey, that's what they Bailey.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
Looked like she was having a problem with her construction
equipment coming out there.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
You know, it's just it's it is kind of I
will say that that is an interesting part of the
of the Bailey fucking story arc, where now at this
point she's just deciding to be hot again.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Like it's weird.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
She went through like a long period of time. I'm sorry,
that wasn't a thing. You know, I can't get into
her anymore. I'm trying a little bit, but it's just
I don't know. I think it's the fruit is too damaged, right,
Like the person is just I know, they don't give
a shit about being there. They just want to punch
the clock and go home. She's openly said it, like

(01:20:13):
all right, fine, And I'm not saying that I got
to believe in the wrestler to believe in the man, but.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
I mean, at some point it's like, all right, that's
why you're working with bird girl, That's why you're not
doing anything to light up the world. You don't want
to do the gimmicks, you don't want to interact with
the audience in the same way. Whatever. I don't know,
it's just you know what I mean? Like it. They
come in, they do their job, they eat lunch, they

(01:20:40):
go home. You know, everything is fine, everything is copasetic.
But you're not going to make an all star out
of them. They don't want to be an all star.
They don't want to be at the top. They don't
have ambition. It's hard to have this undying fandom for
someone that has absolutely zero ambitions, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
But also at the same exact time, you're watching it
and you're going, I wish, I wish there was more
for you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
Like I understand, wouldn't there be more for you if
you want it? Like who just said that street Fighter?
I think just said it. Doesn't want to come in early,
doesn't want to stay late, right, you know, just.

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
I think she did it enough and in her mind
now she's like, so are we gonna give me any
sort of focused push?

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
And they're not.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
They're not going to give her a focused push.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
Ever.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Again, that's not going to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
She doesn't want one, and they don't. You don't deserve it.
There you go a simple as that. Everybody's copasetic, everybody's happy.
That's what I'm saying. That's fine. You're gonna go in
there punching the clock. You're the Brooklyn Brawler of female wrestling. Well,
well let.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Me ask you this though, I mean, how are you
gonna find something for Bailey to do when you got
Ivy Nile on the roster?

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
Oh well, i Ile at least has ambition. Well, I
mean she hasn't tasted the sun before. Bailey's actually he
tasted the sun and done well in it and still decided,
you know what, I'd rather be ignored. It's like, okay,
there you go, no problem.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
Well you're right though with bird Girl, where they're like,
all right, they're gonna put it with bird Girl and
try to figure out something for but they're doing such
a bad job.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
It's like almost where if it's like just picking a
name out of a hat, because it's like, well, they're
not really doing great by her.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
It's like, well, who are they actually doing that?

Speaker 6 (01:22:27):
By?

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
Dirk? Is right? Send her to TNA. I totally agree,
have got.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Saying it for a buke of them. Send a bunch
of these people to TNA. Send Solo to TNA. He'd
fucking kill it there.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
Sure, Why wouldn't you send the TNA.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
Well, let's not put Jay anywhere where he'd have less.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
Super free reign of the bar and back. Yeah, well
you know this this what is that saying?

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
For a total NonStop alcohol? Yeah? What could go wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
No, that's uh, that would be dangerous for him. I
feel like at this point, he's a guy that they
are cooling down and they're trying to find another avenue
for But they've already spent a lot of money on
merch and advertising campaigns and shit, and they're going, oh,
ret row, no, retrow. We put a lot into this dude,

(01:23:22):
and we've kind of hit a wall and they don't
know what to do. But yeah, they're not doing right
by a lot of people. So it's just just what
the fuck it is.

Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
We'll get ready to wrap it up. Wanted to float
this by everybody. The Don Reynolds and White Chocolate Show.
I guess that's the way to say White Chocolate Don
Renalds Show, whichever they had on Steven Flow yesterday. So
I believe their podcast with Steven Flow is up on
YouTube as well as up on the Wrestling Soup and
Friendos network. Then of course we have a lovely LuFisto

(01:23:52):
who is going to be doing some Wrestling Soup and
Frindos shows in the near future, so on that feed
is well, well, we'll go ahead and post that up
there as well as her YouTube. And then of course
tomorrow we got to the shipbox, the John Cena is
Gone shitbox, and I know we already have a bunch
of voicemails and a lot of questions, and like I said, Joe,

(01:24:14):
I think there's a lot of people that really disagree
with us on this one and are quite happy with
the way everything went out. And you know what, again,
good for those people. But I'm definitely gonna have to
sit on baited breath to hear what their arguments are
against why John Cena had a great retirement.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
And if you get the dated breath, be a ted
baited yes, and.

Speaker 3 (01:24:36):
Yeah, we'll get this show up. Check out the Patreon,
Patreon dot com, Forward Slash Wrestling Soup and check out
Spitball Media. I think John Draper and the guys have
a special top was it Top ten Show, Top ten
Horror Movies twenty twenty five, so that should be a
fun listen to. Then, of course, check out Dreari and
The Experience, Lee Sanders and the RCWR Show, and we

(01:24:59):
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