KROSSING OVER or BRET WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG (Wrestling Soup 8.12.25)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There's other shit going on. There's more shit with the
streaming service. We didn't get a chance to even drop
the UFC stuff. They'll probably do that in passing obviously,
carry and cross being gone, Scarlet being gone, and everybody's
reactions to that. Also, braunz Stroman pretty much flips off WWE,
which I kind of agree, like you're building up all
these big men you had braunz Stroman that could have

(00:23):
literally been just putting everybody over.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Well, I'm wondering at this point if the stories of
him being heard are that legitimate.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Then he was heard at his say we saw you
saw him doing the choo choo train at like three
miles an hour. I think that was legit because I mean,
me and keV even used to comment about one week
braun Strowman would go full speed. In the next minute
he was who's jugging? He was a little limit, you
know he was. He was nursing his knees and shit.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
But that makes me yeah, so, but that makes me
wonder though in that situation, is he just saying the
place sucks or is he just saying, like, you know,
I want my job all right? When you took my
job trip my germ. You know, I can't tell the
difference in that moment.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Some dude Jeff Wolf hit him up on the Twitter said, ww,
Summer Slam sure highlights a guy out cut from the
roster in bron Strowman a lot in promo highlights, whether
it be on Netflix Unreal or on the pre show
for Summer Slam. Makes you wonder why the hell he
was cut if they're using his image and likeness so much.

(01:26):
And he added triple H and Braun slid the fuck
in there and said, because someone made because someone made
a stupid bit disdecision. I think I think it's a
little bit of real.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, man, it could also just him be in a
wrestler in that moment. You know, you're dumb to fire me.
You know, I'm a big fucking star or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
But they are. I mean really, even if all he
was was a punching bag to make other people look better,
fans cheered for him even at the end.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
You know, yeah, there was a dude. There's so many
I guess you'd just call them repeat customers or repeat
whatever characters on this show at this point. Yeah, you're
not really wrong if you were to say it's even
like a deviation of Bronze Strowman for like thirty seconds.
At this point, it's like, oh, okay, all right here,

(02:20):
it's already getting it's it's already becoming so same sy
it's back the show is the whole company feels backed up,
like it needs a nice giant shit. Oh boy, yeah,
it's well. It's also just they need to decide what's well.
I mean, I guess we're in the same level of
having to take a shit. They got to decide what's

(02:40):
what's working for them and what's not. You know what
I mean, I don't think because right now it's great.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
What they're going with is obviously more seth more set,
more inclusion of set, more inclusion of the new bloodline.
Obviously this week they double showed you know, no Naomi.
Now that's that's another thing too, So.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Wrestling soup for a mature audience. Wrestling soup. I'm Anthony,
He's Joe, and yeah it's the raw recap, but I'm
gonna fucking probably bounce around a little bit raw.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
There's a lot of stray, little news pieces that I
feel like are more important than the actual Raw show itself.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
I mean, to someone up in a sentence, raw was
boring this week. I was bored.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah, there wasn't much to it. You know that they're
in for a very interesting upcoming month of wrestling, or
so when the two one hundred pound girls have the
best match on the show, that's a that's not a
great sign, is it.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
I don't know. I like the Dominic shit, the Dominic
and El Grande Americano stuff, Like I'm not a big
Triple A guy at all, like zero, But at the
same time, I I kind of like this whole lucha's
side to Dominic. I like this cross promotional shit. I'm
not gonna be around Saturday to watch triple Mania, but

(04:11):
it looks fun.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Right, I'll watch it back. I mean, we're really at
this point where there's so many shows, there's so much
WWE content in general. I can't even imagine at this
point being somebody that sits down and also watches all
of the aw shows too. I'm like, oh my, oh

(04:34):
my fucking god, Like that's it's just arduous. It's a
slog at that point. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like,
to some extent, I feel like somebody that is covering
all of the things that are happening, and wrestling consistently
constantly now has got to feel the same exact way
as like, God, I don't even know, like maybe somebody

(04:57):
that's like covering the White House or something like. It's
just like there's there's always something happening. What's going on?
What this? And that? You're just like, guys, it's not
that fucking serious, I assure you, you know, like, and
it's not even like something's always happening as much as
it is something is always just going on, not even important,

(05:18):
something's just going on. Does that make sense? You know?

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah? But I mean, if if you want a great
example of everything being very samsy, look at all the
news sites. Look at look at the wrestling news sides
and no DQ and this isn't a shot on on
you of them, but fightful, none of them have anything
original unless it's a column. And even the columns, the
articles all start to sound the same. Yeah, want nothing

(05:45):
new across the board?

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Joe, Well, what do they really gonna mention at this point,
like you've once again you've stagnated as far as like
the main events scene in WWE, whether people want to
admit it or not, aw is just completely fucking irrelevant.
There's just nothing going on there of any of any
fucking value. I still see people do ship where they're

(06:10):
like no, uh hang Man and swerve and all this
other shit. I'm like, guys, that's the blood Mark feud
has been going on for two years now, right, and
then they were enemies, and then they were friends, and
they were friends, and then they were enemies, and now
it's like it's the same. It's just redundant. There's't they
need some fresh ship in wrestling in general, bad real bad.

(06:35):
And I don't mean along the lines of let's just
take people that we know or just turn them face,
just turn them heel, Like no, no, no, no, there needs
there needs some sizable fucking change. And unfortunately, if WWE's
meant it is like you said earlier, it's just yeah, yeah,
more SETH. That's something fresh for you. Oh yeah that Well,

(06:58):
it's not.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
That they're using SETH. They're over using SETH at this point,
which I know they gave us a few weeks off
Waka Waka, but it's the fact that there's a lot
of storylines that physically feel the same too. So it's
not even just the fact that you have the same
players on the card on the show every fucking week.

(07:21):
It's that they're doing the exact same storylines as other
people on the show. Like we've we kind of talked
about that in passing before too. It's so myopically repetitive.
It's it's like just looking in one of those hall
of mirrors and everybody's doing the exact same fucking thing.
Oh look that's the fat mirror. Oh look that's the

(07:42):
skinny mirror. Oh that's the short mirror. But it's it's
always the same shit. It's it's really gotten bad so fast.
I don't know what has brought about this creative funk
for WWE. And I know it's like, oh people triple
h where they blame the writing team. I don't remember

(08:04):
it being this bad in a long time, so vast too.
I don't even know if I've ever remembered it being
so bad so fast. That's a new one.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
And I'm watching this and also thinking to myself, speaking
of aw and it's irrelevance, what would this show be
without seem punk at this point?

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Good God, they're trying with La Night. He's about the
only thing that it feels like they're trying with the
Sammy and Russev stuff is at least fresh a little bit. Yeah,
they haven't wrestled in what was it, eight years, they said.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Right, which, yeah, yeah, that would add up, that would
sound about right.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
But I mean, Russev is bringing viciousness for no reason.
It's really bothering me because I like Russev. I like
the Russev character, but he still feels like the Tasmanian devil.
He just runs out there beats the shit out of

(09:01):
a bunch of people in leaves for no fucking reason.
And I'm not I don't believe that. Oh Thish, It's
it's some deeper thought that you just haven't seen yet.
It's it's this long game that he's playing and soon
you'll figure out why. No, I think they're just like
big guy Smash.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
I mean, assign him any sort of reason whatsoever for
doing what he's doing on the show. And it's like
it's almost once again so internet wrestling fan centric, Like
it's almost like it's for them, but they don't even
see it or like it, because you know, it's just nothing.

(09:42):
I guess you could say it just feels like it's
floating around in the ether, but it's like, well, no,
you like Russev right, He's big and he's a fighter,
he's tough, and it's like yeah, but as corny as
it sounds, I want to lower my glasses and say yes,
but what is his motivation?

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Ashley is right, you know, Roussev is nothing without Lana CJ.
I just don't care. Yeah, Lana added a lot to
his character, a lot, a tremendous amount because she was
his voice piece. I mean she was also his piece
waka waka, but I mean she would go out there,
she would be the front and center image. She represented Russev,

(10:19):
and Russev was her killer. It was one of those
weird relationships because it always felt like Lana points, Roussev
kills and that was such a throwback manager Valet dynamic
that it was fun. And especially they use the fact
that he's the Bulgarian brute, so all of a sudden
he was a foreign evil, foreign enemy, and it's like

(10:43):
it was so simple and it worked, and he came
out initially to kill guys like Sena on shit. So
it's like, why can't they go back to that they're
back together, Why can't they just give her the old
ringy dinghy.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
You know, okah, where's what is a monster without his
you know, without his owners? Wrangler? You know what I mean?
What is the mad dog without the leash that he
is held upon? Like it's just and it sounds once
again so pretentious, but there is this point where you're
like this, there's no depth to this at all. And

(11:16):
I once again am not the person where I hate
the promos. But they sit around and you know, four
score seven years ago, you you know, beat me in
that one match, and now I'm still sad about it. No,
it doesn't even have to be that. But for someone
like RUSSV, especially a guy that was you know, he
was gone as long as he was, you're telling me
that you couldn't have had him go through that and

(11:37):
me and you talked about this before, have him say,
you know, I lost my job. You never even tried
to contact me. I lost the love of my life.
None of you caught you know, you didn't try to
contact me. None of you people in w w E,
none of them cared about me. Blah blah blah blah blah.
You know, I'm not even sure how I ended up
back here. I don't even know why they thought to
call me. Maybe they thought that I needed to come

(11:59):
in here and fix some of these guys' attitudes. Well,
here I am to fix their attitude. Like there's just
once again, it's just nothing. This is dead air from
this guy once again was gone for a decade. You
could have brought him back and had him say what
fifty different fucking things, And instead it's just him doing

(12:20):
Benny Hill punch fight scenes like Peter Griffin and the
Chicken every fucking week? Why? And I want to like
both of them. That's what's even more ridiculous. It's creatively
backed top. They need a creative enema. That's what WWE needs,
a giant coffee enema. It's it's just the as little

(12:45):
as I enjoyed, and I think most people enjoyed the
writer era of WWE, and I think most of them
didn't get it right. And I don't miss the three
week long storylines. I certainly don't miss that, But there's
there's this other level to it where you sit there
and you go there's no seeming like okay, you know

(13:07):
this occurred and this led to that, and then this
led to that. There's none of that. It's just fly
by the Night. Shit, it's very strange, very strange to me.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
You know, another match that happened that we were kind
of talking about in passing. You were saying that the
women had the best match of the night, which I
assume you're talking about Eosky and Roxanne Perez, to which
Roxanne actually io got her first law in her first
loss in months, which is kind of a big deal,
especially to give that to Roxanne. But there's like a

(13:41):
looming cloud over that too, because once again we're in
this weird position where we don't know if there's seth
rolinseing us we're going to use that because Naomi was
supposed to have the match, and Naomi was pulled before
the show, and then they came out and said she's
not medically cleared. And I don't know if this is

(14:02):
more storyline and this is their way of trying to
worm a storyline into us about this. But who's all
kept hush hush from the boys And I just I
don't know what to make of that, because I think
that all the websites, the news sites are all getting
worked now too.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah, and we're also at this point too, where you know,
I'm one of those people where I like to keep
some things, you know, I like the illusion of certain
shit obviously, just to keep the aura, if you will,
around wrestling. But there's also this point now where people
aren't paying twenty dollars for a ticket to these shows. Man. Yeah,

(14:42):
if I'm spending five hundred fucking dollars for a show,
and I'm like, my favorite wrestler in the world is
Satin Maroons, and I'm like, I fucking expect seth, We're
all in to be there, and then I found out
to get a fake injury for a month, I'm a little.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
Miffed, right.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
I Mean that's also the thing still, you know, where
we have to adjust our mindset to this, to now
it is just a product. It's a thing that people buy.
They overpay for it. They're overpaying for it by a
fucking lot. So if that's what it's going to be,
then you're gonna get people that it's like, they're gonna

(15:20):
go into it with the Karen esque mindset. It's way
different than when you go and spend one hundred bucks
to spend you know, a night at the Holiday and Express,
or five hundred dollars to go stay at some fancy
fucking resort. Right, So if you're going to the holiday
inn and you're like, well they did and fluff my pillows,
it's like a shut up nerd, there's a fuck about

(15:40):
your fucking pillows. You're a holiday and express just be
glad there's not blood and shit on the wall, you know.
But if you're spending once again five hundred bucks, you're like, well,
I kind of expect it to be good, right.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
I saw somebody stay in the chat too. Well, maybe
it's a visa issue or a travel issue because they
were in Canada. You don't think they knew about that
by last week? I mean they made for Naomi right,
for their champion.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
What Naomi is? It's Naomi like international. I have no
idea she's she lives in Florida, so.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Who knows.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
They were like, oh man, she can't get into Canada.
She's from Florida. Yeah, she got a fucking de wee
a while ago. Right, but so did the fucking jay U.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
So I that keeps you out, does it?

Speaker 4 (16:31):
I don't know. Canada that I know is pretty strict
about that kind of show. I know, at least for
like Weed.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
I mean, i'd be like, oh, well, get on the horse.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
You know, maybe she caught a dwie on that little
fucking scooter thing that she has.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
You're telling me somebody couldn't drove Naomi to Canada.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Like they're sneaking. There's sneaking Naomi in a fucking hall
load out.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
For do not check the trunk. There is no Naomi
in there?

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Did she do something here? You see them, They're like,
what do you got cocaine in there? You're like, no,
just a real sassy wrestling. She's real sassy. I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
If you want to go back there, I wouldn't check
in there. I would proceed with caution.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Proceedless. You just see the cop go to the bad
He's like, is anybody back there?

Speaker 3 (17:38):
So silly dude, And that's just the thing it is.
But it's nothing awful though, because the way that it's
being presented, it's like, well, is this chicken even wrestle
at fucking clash?

Speaker 4 (17:49):
I know, I know? And when did she get hurt?
Where does she get hurt?

Speaker 3 (17:55):
No? No, not privy to that anymore.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
We don't know. And now we're talking about being in
fucking France, like this is really it like, now WWE
has to accept this to some level. I think that
now because me and you had this obvious, long, lengthy
discussion on this treaming services and how it's just like
eat your gruel, pig.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Well there's an update on that that I want to
talk about too, but go on.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
But like, it's like people are spending so much money
now that you can't play like this. That's just and
I understand, like everyone goes, oh, that's a part of rustling,
and it's a part of the show, and it's a
part of the thing, and there's a the BurrH. But
if you have people that are spending five hundred two thousand,

(18:44):
god knows how much money at this point and they're
expecting certain people to be on these shows, and then
they find out that it was all fucking a lie
anyways or whatever, it's like they're gonna get pissed and
almost rightfully slow. Does that make sense, No, for.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Sure, because now you're swerving us as far as how
we watch your show. Look, it was the funniest thing too.
I noticed that there was a lot of people underneath
that video from last week that were just throwing up
watch wrestling. How about you go to this site. How
just like xnay on the fucking pirate sites. Boys, you know,

(19:23):
I had a couple of them. Yeah, but I understand
when you're spending this kind of money. Specifically, let's say Naomi,
Naomi's your champ. There's a lot of people that are
really into her right now and rightfully so. She's doing
amazing work, probably some of the best work of her career,

(19:44):
and you take her off with no notice. So people
in Canada there may have been a few, right, that's
fair to say. There was a few people that on
their BINGO card was to fucking see Naomi versus e
O Sky. Sounds like a good move, sounds like a
good match. To pay for it.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
This isn't like when they would pull John Cene off
a house show and people would demand refunds. It's not
to that level. We get it. But still now we're
at the point, Yeah, there's some people that are paying
big bucks to see this wrestler, specifically, even for them
to come out and have the promo you got, you

(20:23):
gotta do it, you gotta give him something they can't.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
We also talking about the EO and and the Rock
Sane match, because I knew there was no way in
hell you were talking about Maxine dupre versus Becky Lynch.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
Oh no, No, that's definitely what I was talking about.
Let Jim hum. But by the way, at this point,
I saw the drama that you and Dan sent me
about everything that's going on with Sasha and her threatening
to sue people or whatever the fuck or whatever. She's
an idiot. But at this point, I'll take a max

(21:00):
over her.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
She is harmless. Yeah, I'm not a Yeah, I'm not
a fan of hers, like I'm not gonna go spend
money on a ticket or buy merch or anything like that.
But yeah, she's she's harmless. I mean, even comparing the
two is just ridiculous in itself, considering how much money
she Fleet Mercedes fleeced out of Tony Kahan.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
I mean, I'll take Chelsea Green's judge of character towards
Maxine over quite literally anything that Sasha Banks has done
in basically the last ten years.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Let's talk about the Mercedes thing for a second. So, yeah,
she did marking Out with MVP and Dwayne Swayze's podcast.
Sorry I Owan Swazey, Dwayne Swazey. Oh, she said for me,
it's night and day. Well, first of all, I have
my own locker room. I have my own dressing room,

(21:58):
so that helps me a lot. I'm not in it,
but I like being away from it. I don't want
to be part of the drama or anything. But when
I'm around the girls, it just feels like a community
of wanting to make this place grow. There's a hunger
because I feel like we still feel so underground and

(22:20):
we want to make it up here. All these women
have so much drive and passion and I can feel it.
They fire me up. I want to be the best
because they want to be the best. And say with
the guys too, The energy with the guys feels so different.
I don't want to say WWE is bad or that

(22:41):
people there have egos, but it just feels like we're
all trying to fight for something here. We're trying to
fight to make this the best. And I love the
people who have passion hunger. So that's how I feel.
Unlike WW right.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
But there's a hunger. By the way, there's nothing more
underground punk and DIY than having your own dressing room.
Sure say you know what I mean. Like, I remember
thinking to myself when I saw that all those oh,
like you know, you remember, like the Sandman would walk
into venues and be like, where the fuck's my dressing room.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
She's like that girl pokey Man. I don't know if
you follow her. She's a twitch streamer or whatever, and
she's like worth millions of dollars. She's gotten millions upon
millions of dollars from just I don't know, being her
doing a silly dance, right, And then she goes online
and says eat the rich and fuck the rich, and
everybody's kind of like what and she's like, no, no, no,

(23:39):
I mean the really really rich, not my rich, not millionaires,
I mean billionaires.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Oh okay, right right, Which, by the way, it's like
if you were somebody that had any other nuanced opinion
other than that, maybe people would take it differently.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Right, you know what I mean? Mercedes Monet is saying
that she feels underground. Yeah, maybe the girls around her.
Maybe Willow feels a little underground, right, Yeah, maybe maybe
Tony Storm's run now is a little more important than
it once was. But it's real difficult for anybody to
classify you as any of them when you're making what

(24:17):
is it, eight million dollars over your contract, like.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Ugh, h or even how about just even one? Can
we can we be real if you're performing at these
shows in front of I don't know, twelve hundred people,
and you're making a million dollars a year, right, and
you're not the main of you're not the main event person.
Even then, that's still fucking bananas for you to make

(24:42):
that much money, even in twenty twenty five when this costs, like,
you know, shit ton of money to survive. But still
it goes back.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
To a lesson you taught me a while ago about
the value of a person's contract. And I think we
were talking mostly about paper appearance contracts, but I assume
in this vein it's it's kind of the same way.
If Tony Kahan purchased her for one million dollars a year,
then Tony Kahan has expectations of at least two million

(25:15):
dollars in revenue from her, more more than.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Probably at least probably right, probably closer before. But yeah,
and supposing what, yeah, supposing what you pay for her,
what you pay to promote her, what you pay to
put her into whatever it might be. Once again, the shows,
the advertising, the insurance, all of these different things that
come along with promoting. Like, if you're paying somebody, let's

(25:44):
say twenty bucks, they should be able to sell you
four or five tickets. That's what it should come down to.
They should be able to sell one hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
But I don't even think you.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Should make it that simple.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
I mean, you look at aw and and regardless of
the deal they have, And that's just kind of a
myth at this point, because we don't even know what's
going to happen with that going in the future. But
I don't even think she covers her own check at
this point. No does does she? Does anybody believe it?

(26:16):
And I know it's more than one million that she's
getting paid, but does anybody believe she's even bringing in
one million dollars worth of revenue by herself?

Speaker 4 (26:25):
The fuck No, No, that doesn't even seem possible. I mean,
if you really sit down and think about it, like
twenty dollars, thirty dollars a T shirt, how many of
those are reselling? You know?

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yeah, I don't think I've seen Asasha, I don't. I
haven't seen a Mercedes mon A shirt since Michael Corvin
bought me one. That was the last one. I ever
saw in person.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
When people are getting your merchandise as a gag gift, right,
you know that's not not a sign. But no, dude,
that's it is if you're not even, like you said,
breaking even with this person. And yeah, it is very
very funny to me to be like, yeah, we're all
in this together, but I have my own space and

(27:16):
I keep away from everybody. And I'm like, first of all,
that's not a choice, Like just just in the real
scheme of things, that's not a choice. Because when it
all comes down to it, this is very much so
a team sport. It's a team. You have to work collaboratively.

(27:37):
People have to at least on some level get along
or be professional enough that they can cover the fact
that they don't get along. You're in each other's faces,
you're in each other's business, you're around each other. It
is what the fuck it is. And I just laugh
and think to myself that she's sitting there being like, well,
you know, I got my own dressing room. I want

(27:57):
to think to myself, like, does Patrick Mahomes have his
own locker room? Do you think he think he does?
Think Lebron James has his own locker room.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
I mean, I know what, honestly, they would deserve it
because you know they're bringing in that kind of money.
If Lebron James said, look, I need my own space
before the game, I think, first off, obviously in the NBA,
they'd be like, what the fuck a you're doing? It's
a team sport, dude.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
You're right.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
But if anybody made that demand, or if Lebron was
the one to make that demand, would anybody fault him
for it.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
The people in the office wouldn't, but all of the
coaches would look and go, oh.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
The fans would fucking.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, well, I mean, he's got enough suck asses they
would probably defund it. But and by the way, I'm like,
I'm not a fan of either of these guys, but
I still know that they would know better with a
billions and billions of dollars and all the influence and
all the shit that they have done in their careers
that as somebody he said to them, hey, do you

(29:01):
want to go? Do you want your own space away
from all of these guys, They'd be like, what are you?
What the fuck do you want me to ever succeed?

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Well, this too. Here's the other thing too. If I
opened up my window right now and just screamed out,
who is Lebron James? I would get a bunch of
people giving me darius responses. But if I turned around
and screamed out, who's Mercedes Monete, I don't think anybody
would respond back. Now, if I said Sasha Banks, I

(29:30):
would see in this neighborhood, there might be one or
two people screaming back. Sure, but Mercedes Monet, no one.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Right, I would like I still allow if you were
to just hang your head, Hey, who's Lebron James? Just
hear someone what are you a fucking Oh yeah, he's
got a gun thrown at your head. They even bother
shooting you. They're just so disgusted with you, Sarah throwing

(30:00):
my gun at you. I'm that mad. I can't believe
you'd be that ridiculous. But no, like that. That's almost
the point whereas I don't understand how you can make that.
But I guess this is once again it's the Hollywood
thing right where it's you really think you're a fucking
movie star, You really think I'm going to my trailer? Okay,

(30:23):
that's that's great, And people could probably bring up Cody's
got a bus, and Randy Orton's got a bus, and
this one's gotta whatever, you know what I mean. And
to some extent, I still kind of look at that
and I WinCE a little bit. But I'm also gonna
guess that they're not spending the majority of their time there.
They're probably not changing there. They're probably at least like, hey.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Man, spend she doesn't spend time in there. I know,
what a weird thing to say. I caught that little
addendum that she threw in there. Now, I don't know
why she said that. Was she trying to imply I
have my own safe space, my own locker room, but
I like to hang out with the girls, because that's
almost like what it felt that she was trying to

(31:09):
narrate the conversation to. But then it's also really weird
to even say that I have this space that Tony's
paying for, that all the girls are taking less less
pay for a room that I don't even visit every week.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
You know, I still just hear that, and I think
to myself, all of the people in wrestling that I've
just met and encountered, who were just they've drawn millions
of dollars, they were stars for decades, they were important

(31:46):
fucking names in wrestling, and they would they would never
have that fucking.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah. No, it's she's a different She's a different She
is the first when it comes to I remember you
saying earlier in our conversation that she's a trailblazer, and
she is in a lot of ways, because, if anything,
I think in the wrong reasons. She's not a pioneer
unless it's you know, they're not going to pay other

(32:16):
women these exorbitant contracts after seeing what Mercedes.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
Did, Right, she's a pioneer now for people to be
cautious about paying women's wrestlers.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
For Tosh and motherfuckers.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
Yeah right, I don't know that whole thing. It just
makes me laugh. And then what was the thing she
was threatening to sue somebody about because.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Because they quoted that exact same thing that I was
just quoting, the exact same part of the interview that
I was just talking about with the the Dan Trick
Swayze podcast or whatever the fuck it was, right, Yeah,
and she because I guess they they kind of put
it in that, you know that they clipped the WWE
part out, and she took it as slander or libel,

(33:04):
And I remember Jeff telling me before He's like, dude,
slander and libel cases are some of the hardest cases
to ever fucking win, Just the most difficult. And to
think that you would get so asked hurt over a tweet,
Oh good luck, sweetie.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Good f's not that's not going to go well. And
also like looking at what it was that the guy
had quoted, it was basically just him saying or him
quoting her from the show saying that she got offered
a WWE contract and turned it down because she wasn't

(33:41):
happy or didn't want it. It's like, how is that
running you down?

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Because of the way that he placed it and she
was taking it. So the other problem that a lot
of us have online, which you know firsthand, is that
reading comprey handing what is written isn't necessarily how things
are said, no way. So this guy could have actually
just been clipping what she said and trying to put

(34:11):
it in her frame, but she read it in a
negative mindset, or maybe she had an interaction with this
guy before. I don't know the history there, right, and
maybe she just immediately went to the knee jerk reaction
of fuck you pick a lawyer, any lawyer. That's what
she said, right, some some stupid shit like that. Pick
a lawyer, any lawyer, like.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Yeah about that? For what? For what it's it's so embarrassing.
It really is fucking embarrassing. And it's extra absurd when
you take into account all of the ship. And I'm
not saying this like we should be glad, but I

(34:54):
guess in some respects you should be. People are quoting
your fucking podcast interviews to try to kind of, you know, say, hey,
look at what.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
You said about free advertising.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
For yes, that's that's the worst of it. I mean,
look at all this shit that's been going on with
the girls over the past year. The guy fucking trying
to I'm gonna kill Rock Sane, showing up at fucking
like you know, it's threatening and living all the shit,
and you're upset because some guy quoted a fucking thing
you said on a show.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
That's how sensitive they are. Though. Look, I'll give AW
some flowers on this, and I was talking with Phil
I tweeted him back and forth about it, but AW
feels like they're trying new things. For whatever reason they've
they've kind of held Tony back from social media, which
has only been a good thing. They kind of shut

(35:44):
down the talent being toxic people like Ricochet and shit.
And it feels overall that even though there's some slips
here and there, some stupid posts that come out, it's
nowhere near as bad as it was even six months ago.
So clearly somebody's been going through there, going on, hey,
shut the fuck up, just deal with it yourself. And

(36:04):
then Sasha comes over here with her fucking eight million
dollars and goes pick a lawyer, pick.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, right, with her seven figure contract and says, yeah, sure,
I have my own locker room and boil boy. It's
it's fantastic. But I swear everybody is the same and
they're all working together.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Or how about if you're that embarrassed about what you said,
don't fucking say it.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
Right, right, that's unfortunately a part of it, you know
what I mean? Like, if you say a million things,
you're gonna get a lot of things wrong. If you
say one hundred things, you're gonna get a good amount
of things wrong. If you say ten things and you
get a bunch of them wrong, that's on you, right,
that's your fucking fault. You have to be very conscient,

(36:50):
like in that moment, you know what, Like there's a
fucking bajillion hours of you and I speaking. We've gotten
a lot of shit wrong over the years, and that's okay.
But if we were to have ten minute long podcasts
where we sat down and thought about it for fucking
a month and a half and then it was like, oh,

(37:11):
well boy, every single time we talk about ten things,
we had seven of them wrong. You probably pretty not good.
It's that I would assume. I'd say, well, sir, sounds
like you're doing a pretty shitty job. That would be
the way I would describe it.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
But or otherwise known as our YouTube channel, uh.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Correct correct, which, which, by the way, please please subscribe.
It's really you.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Know what's funny about that too? Total side note. There's
a couple of other services that I remember plugging playing
back in the day. Do you remember Library at all?

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Oh sounds right.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
So Library was a video feed that that I attached
to our YouTube channel, and so I remember Dan went
through we he deleted a lot of the old videos
and stuff like that, and there was this library fee
that every single YouTube video that goes up was saved
onto library, and it was shipped off to other platforms.

(38:09):
So there are literally at least a dozen other video
platforms that have tons of wrestling soup shit that's not
even available on YouTube anymore, like hours.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
An hour of course. Like it's just everything is now
spread everywhere. It's just weird. Yeah, anyways, but that's also
I guess I should say once again, why also if
you do one interview every three months and you don't
like one of the ways that you answered one of
your questions, uh, that's where it's going to be there

(38:41):
forever now. So you got to get over it and
move on with your life.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
You Brett Hart I wanted to throw this out here,
total side story, but since we were talking about silliness
during an appearance that he did at the Von Comic Con,
another place I've never heard of, the Von Comic Con
Hall of Flamer, Flamer Brett hartch Hall of Flamer, Hall

(39:06):
of Flamer. Yes, who's going in that wing? Oh boy,
I'm sure there's a few names you could drop. He
said he wasn't invited to Summer Slam this year. He said,
I don't see anybody beating my storytelling or my wrestling style.
They don't even like wrestle like that anymore. If you

(39:28):
want to watch wrestling, if you do love some of
my matches and some of my great pay per views
and stuff like that, I don't think you're going to
find them anymore. Maybe never again. I think it's a
different era now, and the wrestling I don't even watch
it anymore, I mean hardly. I went to SummerSlam, they
invited me down, and this year for ww they told
me that they wanted me in the crowd. And then

(39:49):
they told me once I got there that they didn't
have any seats for me.

Speaker 4 (39:56):
Yeah, Brett, they're charging six thousand dollars for them.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Now, buddy, I noticed that Kevin Nash got a seat.
I mean, I maybe finally realize that I don't think
they really fully appreciate me, even after a Hulks passing
that there's just no appreciation for anything I did.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
Well, that is a scum bag.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
That is a scumbag move. Hey dude, Yeah no, come on,
we want Brett hard so yeah, come on, Bread, come
on down. Yeah no, no, make the flight the trip,
you calm down, we'll get you. And he flies in
and they got him in catering and it's all right,
time for the show, and oh we want you in
the crowd. Oh okay, no problem. Oh we don't have

(40:39):
any seats.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Oh, man, just give him a fucking chair, right, so
just put a blute chair, man, Just give him a
chair sitting at the end of a row next to
a fan. Some fan would probably be happy.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Oh my god, that'd be an experience right there. Hey,
you get to sit next to Brett during the SummerSlam.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Tell Green Shirt guy to move down to see I like, Yeah,
Brett's gonna sit next to you for the next two
matches or something like that. One of those guys I do.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
I know I shouldn't because it is a silly story.
And Brett does like to to take the whipping the
whipping belt out to w W E sometimes, but to
play this weird game of yeah no, we're ready for you, dude,
come on down and then slam the door in his face.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
I don't know, man, Well, this is this is gonna
be shit. We're gonna hear more and more with the
with Triple H being in charge. I really think they
think that was a Triple H decision.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Do you think that was a t k O thing?

Speaker 4 (41:45):
It could be both, but I just feel like, also,
Triple H is so covertly petty that I'm I'm still
not fully buying this whole good guy Triple H fucking
TV show act to some extent. I'm just really not there.
I like to believe as a man that is now,

(42:06):
you know, I'm a grown up. I'm a fucking grown
ass man, right, I'd like to believe that people can change,
they can you know, grow and adapt and learn from
the mistakes. This guy's had some real shit happened to him,
real fucking mortality all that, you know, good bad stuff. Right,
But when he's like, oh, I don't know, man, uh,

(42:27):
people people can like hate me or like people didn't
trust me back in the Yeah for good reason, right
that Like, did you see that thing? But you know,
not that he's my go to source of news or anything,
but did you see the thing with Mavin where Triple
H had said during the the unscripted show where he's like, yeah,

(42:49):
see him, Punk didn't trust me, and Maven goes, yeah,
none of us did.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yeah, I did see that.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
Sean trusted you the end, and I'm like, well, of
course none of them did like him or trust him
during that whole time, and granted, yes that was twenty
years ago, but there is something to that where it's
you know, you're never going to really be able to
fully get that back with people. And that's so who

(43:17):
he is to a certain extent. I wouldn't be chocked
if he did stupid, little petty shit like that at all.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
It's weird either way, if it was TKO doing it
or WWE as a whole or Triple H. I just
it's so it is petty. It's so ineffective too, because
what are you doing. You're just inviting an old man
to waste his time, Like are you gonna like twirl
the mustache when he passes away?

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Or he just thinks you're lucky to be there. Oh
we're lucky to invite you to this, Brett. Oh, you're
so lucky to be here. It's like, no, No, he's
a sixty something year old man. He probably doesn't even
really want to leave the fucking house.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
Brett's also went on The Ringer Wrestling podcast and said
a lot of he was talking about that wrestlers would
be better off if they copied him more. He said,
a lot of guys give you the courtesy of calling
me and asking and saying would it be okay if
I do this on TV? We do this as a
sign of respect to FTR, but I wanted to ask

(44:17):
you first. I don't want to steal your moves without asking,
And after you retire, it's fair game. They can help
themselves to all my moves. I don't need them anymore.
I take it as a compliment. Whenever I watch wrestling
and see something that is obviously a salute, I take
it as a huge compliment, especially from wrestlers today. They'd
all be a lot better off if they copied me more.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
It's so fucking arrogant, but it's not true, and it
is really not wrong. That's the problem, you know, like weird,
it really makes you fucking sad sometimes when you hear
people say stuff like that and you do want to
take the piss out of him because you want to
shock your fucking and then you realize none other right, hard, right,

(45:00):
It's actually pretty fucking correct, man. Yeah, when I'm watching
Jay Uso throw punches that look like literal like backyard
wrestling kid punches. Oh yeah, that main event was I mean,
cucka dooo doo shit.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Who didn't show up. By the way, can can we
name the wrestlers that didn't show up?

Speaker 4 (45:20):
It's so oh god, the way that everything. Now we've
gotten to this point where there's no no clean barely
a clean finish, I should say not no, barely a
clean finish. There's always an interference, there's always a runout,
there's always somebody coming in and blah blah blah blah blah.
And it's like, at least if you have a heeled
cheat to win the match, it's okay, we got the heel.

(45:44):
The heel is cheating, the heel is being a heel,
which but that means you have to put heels over
all the time. Sure, but then you end up in
this spot where there's not like a close enough payoffs
to where it makes sense, Like, okay, the thing with
Dom and Grande America, I know that's getting paid off
on Saturday. You know, yeah, okay, fair enough, we're gonna

(46:05):
do something like that, all right, So the heel is
gonna get is you know, get what's coming to them.
We're gonna we're selling a show for getting people to
tune in on a you know, one of the last
beautiful Sunday Saturday evenings of the summer.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Okay, cool, fine, can you know before you go to
far with that, can we have a moment of silence
for for Conan, for Conan's commentary career.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Oh did they already take him off?

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Yeah, they kicked them off for JBL.

Speaker 4 (46:30):
Oh whoa, whoa boy, Come on, it's fucking Conan's promotion. Jesus. Yeah,
you think you could have? Now a good point. You
think you could have at least Welcome to Triple A.

(46:51):
We have the guy with live footage of him fake
throwing Mexican people over the border, and a guy from Pittsburgh,
you know, real Latin knows.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
And thanks Eddie. Eddie's saying that JBL is also the
co leader of Triple A's main heel group. I know,
I forgot about it, but Codan was doing it just
fine with Corey. I was actually kind of hoping they
would do it a couple more times and really start
building up a rapport. But yeah, no, they just just

(47:21):
one And.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Yeah that was enough for you. They should at least
let him do like a title match or something, you
know what I mean, just have him to do something.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
I didn't mean to derail you that hard. I just no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
But it just it doesn't it doesn't make sense in
the in the way of okay, we had him out
there to begin with. Did he do a great job? No? No,
not really. But at the same time, are we thinking
that the people that are watching Triple A are expecting
it to sound exactly like Monday Night Raw?

Speaker 3 (47:54):
No, nor should thought he did fine. And considering he's
the major connection between both the promotions, I thought Conan
was really great. I thought he was a perfect choice
because he could correct Corey where Corey was wrong.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
And yes, he does he sound tired? Does he sound
a little bit? Yeah, he's an old he's an older
guy that's had a lot of health problems. What do
you what do you expect it to sound like? Do
you expect it to be perfect? If you want?

Speaker 3 (48:23):
Though, dude, you listen to the podcast that he does
with fucking Disco and shit ye see and all those
other guys. He's not bad. It's not like he's lost.
I mean no, absolutely, certain times, You're right, That's what
I was going to say. There's certain times where he's
a little bit more laid back and he lets the
conversation control itself, and there's sometimes he gets fiery and

(48:44):
passionate about shit, and it's like, goddamn, dude, Okay, like
Conan could still command an audience.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
I just yeah, either way, it's just it's amusing to me.
I'm glad that jbl at least has that connection. I
forgot that that whole thing was going on, so it
kind of makes sense for him to be there. It
wasn't just like randomly they said, well, who's Booker tape? Yeah, right,

(49:12):
who's alive and not posting transphobic things on the internet
bt Corey Graves.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
That's the tag team, that's the commentary tag team mom
looking forward to.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
Yeah, that's really it. Yeah that was okay. I probably
would have done it better. But you know, but he's not.
Once again, it's like it's fucking painful, but he's not wrong.
He's really not wrong. When you're watching a lot of
the ship that happens on television and it looks just

(49:44):
genuinely fucking bad, I do think that he he definitely
hurt himself in the eyes of a lot of people,
especially younger fans and I'm sure people in the office too,
with this little thing about Gunter. It's like, dude, Okay,
you I do reach this point, and even I realized
this as somebody who I know my tone, I know

(50:04):
my sense of humor, I know that I'm fucking hard
on things. But there is a point where eventually you're
just like, I hate ice cream kittens and puppy suck
cookies are gross. Like it's like, what are you doing?
You got to like something, brother, You gotta there's gotta
be something here that is just mildly okay to you.
You know, the sunshine's too hot, this day's too beautiful, Like, okay, man,

(50:29):
what's the what the fuck is the problem? It just
sounds like you are truly being a dickhead. But now
you feel a little bitter. I mean, come on, he's bitter.
Brett Hart absolutely a little bitter. But again, that doesn't
necessarily make them wrong. It's just it's one of those things.
I did want to talk a little bit about the
main event, because you kind of shoehorn that in a

(50:51):
little bit. Obviously, it was See Them Punk and La
Knights formed an impromptu tag team earlier in the night
after See Them Punk and lle Knight had a promo
against each other.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Which was fine. It was interesting to see that La
Knight was very rambunctious earlier in the show, was not
giving CM punk an inch and Paul Hayman came out
at the beginning and they basically got into it and
it was going to be seem punk making the tag
team match. Speaking for La Knight, who didn't appreciate that,
but see them punk at La Knight versus the Vision.

(51:24):
That's what they're calling themselves, The Vision.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
I'm sorry, this sounds like two girls and a tag
team in TNA hot pants in the nineteen.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Sounds like a wild tag team. You're not wrong. That
was literally what I was thinking. I'm like, so Tessa
Blanchard and Jesse Yucky from Kentucky, Like, what is this?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
You know?

Speaker 4 (51:48):
It sounds like if somebody like the Beautiful People went
on Wavy TV and they kind of keep the same names.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
It's very pretty people, That's what it is. We're the
Vision Vision.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
Which what a goofy name for two guys that are
just fucking supposed to be shit kicking tough guys.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Too, mister Shulalla, Now it's all part of the Vision.
The fuck.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
A motorcycle, Thad Calf, the Vision?

Speaker 3 (52:17):
Why are they trying to get me to hate Bronson Reid.
Why are they doing this?

Speaker 4 (52:22):
It's a conscious effort, I feel like to make these
almost like they think they're helping, but really they're just minimizing.
And like you said, with Bronson Reid, his thing now
is he just steals shoes.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Yeah, you're going to recognize your tribal thief. And I'm like, no, no,
don't do.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
Bad tribal thief. And it's like and then here comes Seth,
the tribal quef It's dude, you know what if they
could somehow have this become an ad, maybe they can
have Bronson Red do a thing for sketchers, you know
what I mean, like for bigger guys something like that,
or like.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
W W used to do business with Lux.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
Dust Off, Oh my god, with the big fucking boom box.

Speaker 5 (53:12):
They used to sell over the JVC boom box. Yeah, dude,
they just go through all this. Yeah, they bring back
what you did mention the other day. So maybe they'll
bring back fu Boo, which I think you could. Maybe
that could be for like Jacob Jacob Duke could sell
Echo in Fu Boo.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
You know that's so weird too. Somebody said in the
chat that it was good for a one off, dude.
It was a great fuck you when he stole his shoes,
and that should have been it, right, Like maybe he
wears them and doesn't bring, you know, attention to them,
and maybe one day Roman beats his ass and takes
his shoes back or something like.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
I thought that it was going to be like one
of those things in the background. Now this dude's wearing
it around his neck. He's cutting promos about it, and
I'm like, what that is going on?

Speaker 4 (54:03):
Dirty Bird just said in the chat he goes the
Samoans are just acting out all the worst stereotypes of
black people. It's like.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Rox and Reed is just gonna go running down the
fucking ramp with a TV under his arm, like come on, man.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
It's just they're gonna come up with any sort of
like offensive lane they can and they just have the
Samoans do it.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Jay Ouso, I stole your childhood bike.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
Like.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Who's well you had to would that be Tala? Would
Tala do that?

Speaker 1 (54:36):
No?

Speaker 4 (54:37):
It steals a little bicycle, is that what it is?

Speaker 3 (54:40):
Zilla, the one that just got out of the joint.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
Yeah, Zilla, he saw that. Yeah, that whole thing with
that kid, and he's like twenty four or something.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
He looks good. He looks like he's far more ready
than Corn on the Cob.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
But they gotta get this is the problem. Now we're
gonna have eleven thousand Samoan guys on the show. He said,
I said that last day.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
He's like, I hope WWE doesn't forget about me, and
they have room and I'm like, dude, how could they?
How could they forget about you? They like have an
entire family tree, didn't they didn't The Rock use that
in one of his vignettes, like the family tree of
how all the Samoans and all the islander people are

(55:30):
connected and the Fijians and everything else like that, like
his family tree.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
God, I oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, they did that during
the Yeah, and Zilla was which, by the way, I'm
still laughing at the idea of him putting that up there.
And then there's just there's people that are legitimately like, yeah,
just bring them up, all of them. What everybody? I
think we need one hundred Samoans on WWE television.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
Invite the whole island, just yeah, which everybody's invited with
Samoa Joe.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
Right, he's just standing outside of the thing. It's dressed
like sweet tooth. He's ah, He's like, I'm waiting for
my fucking contract to run out with this little fucking mark.
I'll be there eventually.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
No.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
But and I've said that, like, Okay, we don't need
to have seventy five fucking Simowan guys on the show.
And I've seen people be like, well, why is that?
And I'm like, I don't want there to be a
hundred white guys on the show. I don't want it
to be the fucking same of everybody. I don't want
it to be the same of everything. If you've reached
this point where once again it's just like where the family,

(56:37):
where the tree, the Tree of Destiny, where the vision,
it's like all this stupid shit, It's like, these factions
suck fat dick. What's the name of the the thing again?
My family tree or some shit like that?

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Is that the name of them?

Speaker 4 (56:55):
And my family tree, which still, like I said, sounds
like one of those fucking heritage dot Com websites. My
family tree also real scary. Once again, another scary guy
named for a faction, My family Tree. You should put
these on the back of motorcycles, gangs, jackets, the vision,
my family tree, you know what I mean. I'd be

(57:17):
shipping my pants if I saw these guys rolling in.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Well, I heard they wanted ex but Nick Gage.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Was except it would stand for what my dick kaka.
It would be I don't know, making making Dorito's correctly
with whether that's what the k never mind, I clan
they could probably put that in there.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Uh my darling king, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Uh, hello my baby, Hello, my honey.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
So yeah, the main event was a cluster fuck with
everybody involved and ended up being a DQ for what
it was, and it was. It was gross, it was gross.
It was everything that you expecting, ended with the DQ
in favor of a punkin night. But everybody got involved.
So was down there Seth was laughing like that was

(58:09):
your main event.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
I mean, oh when the heels the heels went out
on top again, that's the most well they had everybody.
So yeah, thank god. I mean I was really and
just just this confused the fuck out of me. At
the end where they're all holding off the heel faction, yeah,
and then it's like, oh an punk can't keep it together,

(58:34):
and then they fight each other and then the heels
are like, well, I guess we'll just go down and
start beating the fuck out of them, And in my
mind I'm thinking of going, well, Punk's not a fucking idiot,
and obviously, you know, like La Knight's supposed to be
a guy that's not a fucking idiot acting like fucking idiots.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
I think, so to be fair, and I hate always
playing the devil's advocate on this, I think they were
trying to run down the idea that La Night is
such a hothead and he has a jealousy streak against
CM Punk, and they showed that earlier in the night
when CM Punk made the match or accepted the match,
and Ellie Knight's like, don't you fucking speak for me,

(59:12):
Like there's there's some kind of jealousy with him and
CM Punk, right, So I think that's the story they're
trying to tell, and that l. A. Knight is so
ego driven that even as a face, he just can't
read the room.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
I suppose, but I guess it's very dumb. It really
is dumb. Yeah, but yeah, there was there was a point.
There was a point when that whole thing was going
down where those two were fighting, and then Jay Russo
tried to beat them or like tried to break them up,
and then Elle Knight hits Jay Usso in the face.
And I know they're trying to sell the four Way
in Paris, obviously, but I'm just sit there and I

(59:51):
wish Jay kind of did the old like fucking throws
his hands at him like fuck you guys, and just
last fucking idiots like now I'm gonna get to shit
kicked out of me by these guys because you're too
fucking dumb, Like see you later.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
So Oscar going heel, What do you think about that?

Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
I mean, I guess, I guess it's better than the
same segments you're pity we friends. Yeah, I am, thank you.
You can't do that every week, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
I'm so happy this is the direction she's going. I
need old Oscar back a little a little bit of
the kana. I absolutely need it. She needs to go heal.
I just wish she'd get rid of the pirate. That's
all the pirate. Get rid of the pirate. I think
Oscar is a heel right now. Would be very refreshing

(01:00:41):
because she commands a lot of respect in that ring.
And if Oscar fucking turned on everybody. Ah, that's that's
fresh too, Naomi going heel the way she did was fresh. Wow,
surprisingly fresh. Imagine what Oscar could do, right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
Yeah, But dude, all of this pails and comparison to
the fact that we had a good follow up on
the on the Bird Girl and Bailey thing. Oh God,
thank god. I mean, I needed more clarity on this,
more vignette. I'm really appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (01:01:09):
Yeah, I was so glad, Like, I'm not exactly sure
how to start this, but I honestly don't even know
how I got here right now.

Speaker 4 (01:01:22):
I've been doing this for.

Speaker 6 (01:01:25):
People almost thirteen years, and I've never felt the way
I feel.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:01:33):
I in a way.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Want more but feel less. I want more and feel nothing.
I think it's my fault, I think in.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
My process of my whole career.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
That's really sad too. When I'm looking at this just
and pauses halfway through. She looks like Britt Baker. Oh,
she looks like Britt Baker on the cam the makeup
that she had on for that night or whatever for
the vignette. She absolutely does.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
Why are they just start switching him out? You know?

Speaker 6 (01:02:09):
I mean you could it meant something before I even
called myself that, and I was treated like one before
I even saw myself as one. Then I started to
realize that I can make a change, that I can
be an asset to the division by being a role model,
by being that person that people came to, by being

(01:02:30):
that person that people looked up to, whether it was
in the locker room or on the other side of
the barricade.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
All right, that's enough of that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Look one thing. I don't know why. It doesn't even
matter how hard you try, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
It's we needed this. We needed this attempt by Bailey,
because the Bailey that did everything and doesn't give a
fuck what the fans want was pretty sour to me.
Her eliciting emotion, whether she was jabbing a nail into

(01:03:06):
her foot, through the whole thing, I thought an attempt
was made. I don't know what happens because of this,
but something is happening, right Like I, I don't know
what she's done. I don't know what Becky and bird
Girl have done to elicit this much of a character

(01:03:27):
change in Bailey. Like nothing feels like it deserves this
level of weight. It's not like she lost her best
friend of ten years. It's not like she held the
title for a thousand fucking days and now just lost
it and doesn't know why. It's there was no major
comeuppance that should have Bailey At this point, the story

(01:03:50):
doesn't make sense. I want the change in Bailey. I
want Bailey to be enjoyable again. I want her to
have deeper storylines. But this is coming from literally nothing nothing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
No, I can't win. I haven't won the Intercontinental Women's
Championship that's been around for ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
I've lost my four matches. Okay, happens, sir. Some people
have made a career on that, lady, Like I don't
know what to tell you.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
It doesn't makes you look petty and fucking absurd. And yes,
with the music and the overdone and like I said earlier,
you know, I want to see some sort of reason
why with all of that said, with all of what
I said earlier about you know, okay we need to
give people. Is there a reason still in here? Oh?

(01:04:46):
I lost some matches. Oh, I feel like I don't
know what I'm doing anymore. It's like, you gotta give
me more. You gotta give me more than that. You
gotta give me more than that. It's got to be
on this age. The clock's ticking. I don't know if
I'm gonna have what I'm gonna be doing in two years.
I look around and I see Naomi doing this. I

(01:05:08):
see new girls coming into the company, like Tiffany Stratton.
I think to myself, what am I going to become?
Maybe I can go train people and be like a
natty like whatever, it's going to be like, You've got
to give me a little bit more meat than the
same just fucking muzak filler promo.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
Shit that it's not a bad promo though, but it's
it's like it's like the Shindler's List promo or something,
but it's like you didn't save anyone, nobody died, Like
it's not that serious.

Speaker 4 (01:05:41):
Waiting.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
Yeah, right, it's a good promo, I think. I think
even with the muzak, like the presentation, it's wonderful, but
the placement is weird. It would be one thing like
if she if she gave this promo, for example, Joe,
if she was in the Royal Rumble and she was
like No. Number two or number three and she made
it all the way to the end and she swore

(01:06:04):
up and down for weeks or months that I'm gonna
win the Royal Rumble. I'm fucking gonna do it. Nobody
else is gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. And
she gets all the way to the end and she
gets cheated out of it. I'd have been like, Okay,
this is the promo for that. This is the kind
of promo for that. You now no longer have a
Rustlemania spot. You lost the Royal Rumble after beating twenty

(01:06:25):
nine other fucking people or twenty eight other people. That's
the promo for that bird girl turning on Becky and
you and I sure.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
I know it's this girl, this bland fucking girl and
Becky like they're not your friend anymore. And by the way,
like put into contact almost a little bit. Even with
the thing that bird girl said where she I don't
know what's going on, it doesn't make sense. It's like, Yeah,
are you the voice of us? Are you actually supposed
to be us at this moment? Because maybe that's a

(01:06:58):
that might be one of the first time you've done
something where you actually reflected the audience's legitimate opinions. Because
we have no fucking idea. What is going on or
what the point is, And still to this day, there's
really such little references of Bailey in where she started
from and the character and how she got there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
She doesn't want and I really believe that that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:23):
I know she doesn't want to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
I believe that was real. I believe that was absolutely real.
She may have loved the Hugger gimmick maybe back when
it was happening, but I think she really got sick
of it. She got sick of people serenading her. She
got sick of that fanfair, I think. And look, I
can't necessarily blame her when all of her friends are

(01:07:45):
getting stalked and you got fucking fans hiding in the
closet with duct tape and scissors and shit like. I
can't really blame her for wanting to distance herself back
a little bit, especially with as much fanfare as she
was getting. But it's kind of like, you have to
recognize your job versus the real world, and the character

(01:08:08):
that you created for people was amazing. It was absolutely
a money maker. People paid to see you, easily paid
to see you during those Hugger wacky inflatable tube man days,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
And I hate to like invoke this guy's spirit or
use it against people. But there is some sort of
very weird element of this because it gets brought up
so frequently. I feel like whatever Bailey is interviewed or
whomever right where, it's you know, oh my god, you
know Dusty, Dusty's kids and things of Dusty loved and
Dusty Baby, you have the greatest idea. What baby, that's

(01:08:46):
such an amazing gimmick and you're killing it. You're doing
great and blah blah blah blah blah. It's like, yeah,
you all fucking love the guy. And then he's like
you have gold and you're like, yeah, no, thanks. It's
the weirdest. It's so fucking weird when you think you
know what I mean, like, it's strange when you think
of it that way. It's it's somebody saying to you, Hey,

(01:09:07):
you know, I went out and I'm a I'm a
quarterback in the NFL, or you know what, you know
in fucking Joe Montana showed me how to throw the
perfect spiral and he said, kid, you do that, You're
going to go to the top. And I said, all right,
and then I just stopped doing No.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Then then you master it. You began a fucking quarterback
out there, and they're like, oh, it's time for the
super Bowl, and you're like, no thanks. Look here's another
thing too that you're not even bringing up. I'm surprised
the company let her, I know, Hilly, be honest, there's
no way in hell that the company didn't recognize how

(01:09:47):
popular Bailey as the Hugger was. I'm surprised the company said, oh, yeah,
you want to ditch this money making gimmick. Yeah, sure,
no problem. I mean, never mind the the oodles of
money that we throw at the wall trying to get
seth over every fucking week. But you you're printing money
with this, don't We don't need that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:06):
Meanwhile, we're wrapping Jay Uso in a fucking fruit by
the foot at right, try to make him appealing to children.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
He's gonna wear Oggs next week, guys, aren't you.

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
Damn g I got these new sketches, easy walk.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
These wheelies. I'm gonna be coming down on the rig
of my wheelies.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
Damn, my shoes be lighting up. Gee Like that's oh
my god. But that's what it is. It's like you've
reached this point where you look at it it's just, oh, man,
I don't know. I can't figure out is why I
can't put this together? And I think there's like a
there's like a Doug Stanhope bit I think from years
and years ago where he's just talking about being exhausted

(01:10:48):
with trying to explain things to people that are really obvious,
and he's like, it's just a room full of people
and they're like, I'm so starving and there's just a
whole plate of nachos and you're like, just eat the
notch and they're like, I can't figure a man, I'm
just my belly, I'm starving. Would you please just eat
the fucking nachos? And it's like, well yeah, in a way.

(01:11:10):
Even with Bailey too, you're sitting there, She's man, I
just can't find my footing. I don't know if I'm
the same person do the thing that got you over?

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Well, here's the thing too. I think the only saving
grace is Izzy, right, is if Izzy comes back as
the Hugger. Eventually in WWE, it takes out Bailey. Like
the storyline that they're trying to build with bird Girl
and Becky Lynch doesn't work because bird Girl has no
background other than what WWE is showing us. Now, Izzy

(01:11:44):
we know has been around for a minute, and we
know her story from back down on NXT. Now, if
Izzy comes back one day and goes up against Bailey
as the hugger, Wow, that could be deep. That that
could actually be a real deep storyline. Dude, Bailey is.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
So removed from what you should do to make money
that they would probably bring back the girl Izzy and
she'd be like, I was a super fan of when
you cut your hair short and shy shaves half your
head and was boring for three and a half years,
That's what I was the superman of. Like, I don't
think that's what you were the super fan of. Nope,
that was my favorite thing in the whole world.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
But that's a great storyline. She comes back, and I
don't know if Izzy's capable. I honestly, I think I
saw one one thing of hers on YouTube and I
know she's had a few matches. But yeah, kid too,
I understood. But that's the perfect thing. You were my hero.
You were everything I wanted to be, and now you're
this wa.

Speaker 4 (01:12:49):
She just does yeah, she does the hint. What is
this right? What is this?

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Who are you. Yeah, well, that's like one of those stories.
I would have kicked my own ass if you know
it's one of those.

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
It's just, yeah, Billy, what the fuck is this? Honestly,
it sounds like I don't want to put this on
this poor child, but it would almost make sense to
have her and bird Girl. Oh my god, I know
I don't want to give Burger, but I'm gonna have
to deal with her anyways. Bird Girl at this point

(01:13:28):
is like your friend's wife that no one likes, but
you know, she has to come to everything. Fucking Christ.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Yeah, we'll take you on a trip to the dells.
It's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
Yes, oh yeah, here comes to bird Girls. Yeah. Oh no, no,
we all like her. She's cool. Yeah, she's great. Now
whoa Yeah, Taylor Swift did put on a new album
this week? Oh yeah, oh no, please tell me more
out your rock collection. Yeah, like it's I don't know, dude,

(01:14:04):
it's I gotta figure out something. And I once again Bailey,
I got loved Bailey, love love love love belly fucking
dead end. This is just such a fucking dead end.
And then you got this this sleepy bird in there.
Uh dude, it was so fucking this thing is so
fucking dead in the water that in a way, I

(01:14:27):
almost did look forward till it was like Becky's wrestling Maxine.
I'm like, at least it's not the same three girls.
Oh sure, sure Maxine, because she's so she looks like
a fucking a candlestick, she's so fucking Yeah, she trues
to do ship in the riggage's too long to do.
It's like a fucking omas uh, but like she just

(01:14:49):
can barely fucking do it. But even then, I'm like, Okay,
at least it's somebody different, Thank God.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
So I guess we could talk about this where that's
pretty much raw. Did we really miss an thing we covered?
Sammy and russev covered.

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
Promised promised to get the belt back, which if he's
a babyface and he made a promise to do something, No,
it's gonna happen now, it's just a matter of when.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
But I will say Sammy looks good in his match too.
I liked that, but I mean it was Brusa. Look,
lou Fisto was there. I know she's doing LFG this
week with Jeff, so I'm kind of looking forward to
seeing what her insights were. She she was backstage. I
guess too. I didn't really I haven't talked to her
at all this week. I've really not been around, but
I'm kind of looking forward to it. I'm sure she's

(01:15:34):
gonna have a few things to say.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
I'll ask her if she had a nice conversation with
burg Girl she brought her some seed.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Yeah, sure, maybe she you know, ate it out of
her hand or something. But they were confiscating Carrie and
Cross signs at raw right, So we're at this point now.
Ross was let go. Scarlett was online. She said on
X my time in w W has been an incredible ride,
and I can truly say it's been the best locker
room I've ever been a part of. The people aren't

(01:16:00):
just coworkers, their family. I love you all and I'll
deeply miss seeing you every week. To the fans, you've
never been just a crowd. You've been our partners in
every fight and the reason we give everything for this.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you. The next
chapter starts now, and I'm ready to bring something unforgettable
to any stage anywhere in the world. If you want
the smoke show on your show, let's make it happen

(01:16:22):
and then she gives her booking information and Cross had
multiple posts. Cross actually put out a whole video. It
was like an hour and some change about his time
in WWE and talking to the fans and a lot
of like a lot of introflective kind of thoughts, which

(01:16:44):
he's really good at that. He's very good at voicing
his emotions. And I'm still underneath the banner that this
is all part of a storyline. But if that's the case,
then these two are the best storyline, the best characters
of storylines at WWE has had in years, because they

(01:17:06):
are selling the fuck out of it. And then this
is better than I'm injured, but I'm not injured like
this is. This is really moving people. And it's interesting
how controversial the character has kind of become, especially now
that it's believed that he's gone. But there's a couple
things that want to hit up. WWE obviously is a

(01:17:30):
confiscating Signs, So in a video that he published on
his YouTube channel, he confirmed that his contract was up,
of course, and he said, you know, they did confiscate
some of the signs, right. I had heard from several
people at the show and they said people thought and
they said people thought people might chant. Nobody chanted. There
were a few signs in the crowd. I didn't see

(01:17:52):
anyone taking them away, and I did see them later
in the show, but someone was there said, quote, yeah,
they absolutely took those signs away end quote. So it's
if it's part of the storyline, then that is amazing
foresight by the creative team to go through with this.
But this also feels like what they did with Truth, right,

(01:18:15):
And I mean we didn't even talk about that weird
change with Truth too. But he he disappeared and he
said he was let go from the company. People lost
their shit. Then all of a sudden he was signed
up the next week, changed his name, changed, his character
became Ron Killings, went on a sena ass woopon spree,

(01:18:39):
and then they made him disappear again.

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
For whatever reason.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
Right, Like, it didn't feel like a storyline, because if
that was a storyline, that was a shitty storyline. It
was a very shitty story. And now he can't even
turn because now him and seen our best buds again.
For whatever that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:01):
Makes no sense. I I honest to god, when I
saw that they were trying to Oh now they're just
gonna be friends again. In my mind, I thought, this
is how you give one last good big run to
Killings Too, and you give Cody something to do where

(01:19:21):
you have him do some sort of you know whatever.
It'd be fucking I said, have him fucking burn Cody
with a cigarette. That was my mindset right off the gate.
You have a thing where Truth's out back and he's
fucking smoking a butter do it, you know, just hanging
out and he's sitting there and he's like, oh, yeah,
I saw the whole thing. I saw you hugging on John.

(01:19:41):
You guys are friends now. I saw how that came
to be. It is, oh, you know, well, Truth will
people change. I guess they changed real fast, Cody, you know.
And you could tell a really good story like that
to me. You could make a two to three month
long feud with that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
The the little intersection in that was they they could
have been doing that with Cody the whole time, but
they were trying to build up the relationship between Damian
Priest and Truth.

Speaker 4 (01:20:11):
Oh yay, fucking cans.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
That was the relation of that was the relationship Damien
Priest was was our Truth's guy. And they were doing
that because the judgment day ship right, like they were
trying to keep that going.

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
I feel at this point I don't need to be
nice to Damian Priests anymore because he's fucking little device.
Uh Jesus, what a fucking code rack. That guy's become Jesus.
Enough enough, you could have told a good say, you
could have had a good fight something for Cody to
do that would have been different and fresh in some directions,
because what's what's Cody gonna do now? Fucking another match

(01:20:50):
with who I don't even know. I don't even know
what the fuck you do with them? And at least
then you give him somebody, Oh well that makes a
little bit of sense. Truth changes is whole gimmick, shaves
his head, fucking ghosted all this trouble, and you have
him do a little back and forth kind of deal.
And you could run that for, like I said, two
or three months and you got a nice little feud going.

(01:21:12):
But instead, you know, fart.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Casuals and the chat disagrees with you though about Damian Priest,
he says he isn't Lola is just his beard.

Speaker 4 (01:21:22):
Yeah, I keep telling yourself that back.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
You know what, I actually disagree. I disagree with casuals
and you I think he's just really into Lola's boyfriend.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
That's just oh yeah, well she's teaching him jiu jitsu
is yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
Yeah, they're gonna fight at the Parking Garage against Dean Ambrose.

Speaker 4 (01:21:45):
We're gonna find out. It's gonna be like if this
house is rocking, don't come and knock it. You go
in there, and they're just like knitting, doing like cross
stitches together, you know, like he's give me a fucking break.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
That twister just a bunch of Twischer bands.

Speaker 4 (01:22:02):
He's a fuck, you're too tall for this poppy and
he's just like, oh no, priest fucks dude, you know,
priest focks.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Oh I'm not yeah, I'm just busting balls. But that's
what WWE's plan was, is they wanted the Damien Priest
and our Truth connection, and then when he came back
is Ron Killings. They even had Damien Priest there for
a hot minute and it just didn't take off. And
now they just ditched that after taking him off TV
for a while, and he's back as Truth and he's
best buddies with John Cena and John Cena's magically a

(01:22:33):
baby face and it just and I saw I forgot
who it was. Somebody said it a little bit earlier
that Damien Priest feels different than or our truth feels
different than Cross. Jetcat said that, sorry, Cross seems different
than Truth, and I assume that he's talking about the
whole firing situation. I think it feels different because Cross

(01:22:56):
has been so open about everything, where Truth just kind
of showed up online one day and said I'm not
with the company and that was it. He was just gone.
And Cross Cross puts out these these movies, these callogs,
these bump bump bump bump. It's like everything is in

(01:23:19):
CinemaScope and shit, like, God, damn dude, just do a
Twitch video, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:23:24):
Yeah, the fucking lion comes rocks. Wait is this guy
tell me? Which? Once again, I guess this is also
where now we end up in this place where WWE
is overplaying. There is this a work fucking hand.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Yeah, it's not firing. Sorry, large lot, I will correct myself,
not firing the contract runs out. I'm sorry, You're right,
I apologize. Well either way, they let him go via
taking a knee in the fourth quarter. I just yeah, whatever, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:53):
But that's it. Man, is like this is what you
get when you overplay your hand once again, like okay,
it's just a real Oh I don't know. So then
you get to this point where it's just just showing
the dog the magic trick thing over and over again,
like okay, well we don't know. Now I just don't care.
Like you can't keep you can't keep pulling the fucking

(01:24:15):
the ball. You can't keep pulling the fucking string away
from me. Eventually the kid is gonna stop playing, right,
you know. And that's where they're seemingly already had it
in this direction with Cross where it's oh did he
get his contract? Runs out? Oh, I don't know, is
he still there? Okay, it's the Pandora's box thing, dude.

(01:24:36):
We brought up this analogy last time. It's wwe wants
to put Kfe back in the box. And I think
what they're doing now is they're just going to start
russo swerving the shit out of all of us. Oh yeah,
that'll go.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
Well, that's I think that's what they're trying to do.
And it's not necessarily swerve in the sense of all
you thought such and such is gonna win, but somebody
else won. I think they're doing it on the level
of you don't know what's real with the company anymore,
because on the face side, they're putting out shows like unreal,

(01:25:13):
they're doing scrums or they were doing scrums. They're doing
all these things that present themselves as here, here's how
the fucking sausage is made, right. You got the Rock
coming out and telling telling different fucking analysts like Dave
Meltzer and shit, hey, settle down, Dave, it's it's all
a work. The whole thing is work. Why don't you

(01:25:35):
take a vacation? Which he's not wrong, Dave Meltzer is
a fucking psychopath sometimes. But you do all these things
and then you flip it by having guys like Seth
Rollins go through all these things that people believe that
he's injured and they're going to the point of saying, oh,
he's off TV and everything else like that, just to
have him pop up like a couple weeks later, and

(01:25:57):
now people are second guessing everything that's going on.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
And I think that they're going to bring back k Fabe,
but not the k Fabe that obviously Wrestling hid for
so many fucking years. They're going to bring back this confusion,
and I don't know if it's going to be interesting.
I don't know if it's going to be enticing to
fans or more cause people to just go.

Speaker 4 (01:26:22):
It's not they the words you're looking for is annoying.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
Well yeah, it's going to be too difficult to keep up.
That's right. That's going to be the other side of
it that I don't think they're looking at. It's like, well,
that's it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
Yeah, dude, imagine any because at this point it's just
a TV show, right wing when judge nudge, imagine any
TV show where you had a storyline or something going
on with it, and it's just like this actor said
that they may not even come back for the next season, right,
And they're like, are they coming back for the next

(01:26:54):
season or not? We don't now, right, okay? And then
by the maybe the first time you do it, you go,
oh shit, they're not going to bring back fucking Jennifer
Aniston for the last season of Friends. Holy smokes, what
are they gonna do with that her? But by the
fucking fiftieth time you do it, someone is just like, Okay, sure, well, yeah,

(01:27:16):
maybe they're not going to show up. I we don't
fucking care.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
You're going to You're going to turn the fans apathetic. Yeah,
I think that's worse than loving or hating this show,
turning the fans apathetic because they can't trust what they're
even watching it. It's like the same show, right, Jennifer
Anderson dies and everybody there's a funeral service, and everybody

(01:27:42):
fucking mourns, and.

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
So no one told you life was gonna be this way,
right Jed?

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
And then three weeks later, fucking somebody wakes up and goes, oh,
what a bad dream, fuck yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
Oh, in the coffee shop, you demiolante grande Americano walks in.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
So what do you think theme it's coffee? You feel
the cross thing crossing Scarlett is part of a larger storyline?
Or do you think that these guys like the uh
the Sikos are already saying online crossing Scarlet are all elite.

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
And what the fuck they gonna do there?

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
I mean, just the paycheck at least.

Speaker 4 (01:28:33):
It's another Yeah, it's like another one of these situations
where I'm like, I need there needs to be something
fucking interesting happening. I know this is the dead area
of wrestling. I know, this is the dead season, where's
the shit that happens is typically not that interesting or
exciting or you're not have much to look forward to.
But I think to myself, I go, okay, well Cross
comes back. What do you got set up for them?

(01:28:55):
Is he gonna go after one of the forty five
fucking smow and boy bands? What you what is he
gonna do?

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
He comes with his arm storyline, but look eight, he
doesn't even have to do anything. The guy has an
entire video catalog that they can just download online.

Speaker 4 (01:29:10):
Yeah, and in three weeks, Okada will be calling him
a bitch like a oh, I'm miss sorry, like that's
what they'll be doing, like it's that it's a fucking
clown show. So they got nothing going on over there
that they can do anything with. And then I look
at W W W and I go, okay, well, who
are their current champion, Seth? They gotta send another guy
after fucking Seths? How many guys are got going after Seth?

(01:29:32):
And are they gonna have Are they gonna have the
sweet precious angel Seths loose to kill across? No chance
in that fucking happening, right, yeah, So what else are
they gonna do then Cody. They haven't go after Cody.
Maybe that could be a possibility, but it's like, is
he gonna beat Cody?

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
Do you think you're gonna go to TNA then for
a little while to heat.

Speaker 4 (01:29:51):
On how many That might not be a bad idea.

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
I mean, they did find the TNA before.

Speaker 4 (01:29:58):
Honestly, that would probably be the best case.

Speaker 3 (01:30:00):
I mean, they have a history there, but that was
also underneath Scott's. Scott's regime though too, so I don't
even know if the relationship with Anthem or whatever the
fuck that new guy is has that relationship with with
Cross and Scarlett any I don't know. I don't know
how that works out.

Speaker 4 (01:30:19):
What if you have Cross go to TNA and he
hangs out there for for whatever reason, right, and then
over time you have him sort of go through the
motor Yeah, you know it was out of my contract,
you know. And you know here I am now in
TNA because he was in TNA for a while if

(01:30:40):
I remember correctly, right at one point, Yeah, he's already there.
You can go through that. You know, this is a
place to me and my wife, this is home and
I'm comfortable here. And then eventually over time, you have
it become a thing where he starts to see maybe
the WWE guys coming from n XT Trick Williams is
the champion. You kind of agamah, you go through that

(01:31:01):
whole process and you have him get to this place
where he's sitting there and he just looks at the
you know, you just losen triple H. Are you fucking
with me?

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:31:11):
Are you sending me the are you sending these guys
to fuck with me? Or whatever? It would be just
something along those lines to where you can kind of
build him back to that situation. But yeah, I guess
if this is some sort of big work and he's
gonna show back up on WWE television, the problem is
is there's just too many fucking dead ends on that show.

(01:31:32):
There's a lot of this will happen. What's the effect
and then the effect after that you go fart noise.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
Well, here's the other thing too. And I know we've
talked about this over the years, but it's almost like
planned obsolescence. But for WWE, where there's a point where
the creative team tries a lot harder, especially during the
WrestleMania season, the World Rumble season, and the storylines become

(01:32:02):
a lot more engaging, almost as if they save their
best stuff for that part of the year, and the
rest of the year they just kind of lift in limbo.
We've always kind of figured that was the case because
people aren't watching as many shows in the summer because
they're out there having a good time, or they just
got back at school, et cetera, et cetera. Like there's

(01:32:22):
all these reasons for why the summer is the best
time for wrestling as far as you know, the majority
of people that are sitting there online watching all this shit.
And I wonder if WWE is in that same state
right now with guys like Cross and even guys like Truth,
where all this stuff is happening right now during the summer,

(01:32:43):
where they're expecting less people to watch, but when it
comes time for something to happen. How interesting would it
be if Cross showed up at the Royal Rumble. If
Cross was in TNA and then he was one of
the numbers that got called in for.

Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
The Royal Ruce. Well, he could also be doing he
could be filming a movie or something.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
I know he's doing the book tour. I saw nine
oh five say that. Yeah, we know about the book
tour absolutely, like, oh.

Speaker 4 (01:33:07):
That's yeah, I forgot about that. That was a very
real possibility day just working that into a store. Yeah yeah, yeah, well,
I mean apparently I forgot about this too. The chances
of them we went to aw were very slim because
wasn't fucking Don Callous being a creep to Scarlet? Was
he a real thing too?

Speaker 3 (01:33:25):
Yeah? And I see Jetson and DT said that he
got fucked over by financially by t Anda. Yeah, that's
where I was trying to bring up. But I didn't
know if that was Scott de Moore or if that
was somebody else or Anthem. I know Anthem is a
new guy that's running it like it's it would be
if anything.

Speaker 4 (01:33:44):
Well, no, never mind, because I keep thinking he's in
t it's TNA and A whatever. I'm mixing them all together. Sorry,
but yeah, well no, no, because in my mind I was like, well,
I think the Cross would be more mad about the
guy being a fucking creep to his wife. Oh yeah,
well I remember it's two different companies.

Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, money versus creep. Yeah, but you
know what what is don kallus gonna do? Let's be honest,
do you think Don Kallous would even have the balls
to even face a dude like cross and say that shit.

Speaker 4 (01:34:14):
No, no, but Tony Khan would side with him before.
He would probably cross in scarlet chuse. Tony Kin's a
fucking little weirdo.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
No, I'd probably just give everybody money and tell him
the shut up and go through.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
I'll give you twenty thousand dollars if you don't say
that again.

Speaker 4 (01:34:33):
Don I know, right, don can you do your favor
and stop being the leer ring? And then he just
throws a check at him. He's like, I can do boss. Yeah, yeah,
gotta pay the lear troll. Yeah no, what a fucking
that is such a disaster. No, no, but you know what,

(01:34:53):
if he's got the book and all that going on,
more than likely it will be one of those we're
gonna show up at the Rumble, We're gonna show up
at survivorsself.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
So God, there's not too much else to really cross. Yeah,
it was. There's one other thing. So also, on one
of his many YouTube videos that you can catch, he
talked about certain people in their acknowledgment. Quote. I remember
in the beginning people were saying, hey, I wouldn't take

(01:35:23):
it seriously, it's not going to last, or hey, let's
see if it's real when you go out there tonight,
or if it's still real when we're in a different
city or a different state. Then when it was still
there and it got louder and louder and louder every
week that went away, and it was kind of like, well,
we're really not ready to fully embrace that. I was

(01:35:43):
being told by certain people don't acknowledge it, which felt
really wrong because having a connection with the audience, especially
one that's like this, that doesn't just come around to
everybody or for everybody. It wasn't something that was constructed
or thought of. This happened to organically through a series
of events, and I would even say it's something that

(01:36:04):
happened recently this year. There's something that is happening because
of what has happened over the last three years. I
don't feel like we're all collectively going in the direction
that the audience would like us to go in, and
that part doesn't feel good. You can't ignore the crowd
in this business. You can try, it's not going to
be good in the end. You don't want to make

(01:36:24):
your audience feel like they aren't a part of this.
You can't tell them that they are a part of
this and then they are the universe and that they
are so heavily involved in every aspect of it, and
then on a whim tell them certain sub sections don't matter.
We can't do that. That pisses people off and turns
people away. And he's right, He's absolutely right, And that

(01:36:47):
feels like what WWE is doing a lot of right now.

Speaker 4 (01:36:51):
It's very funny to put it that way, for him
to say, you call yourselves the universe and you're just
like kern I please, can I please have a.

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
Say in the universe?

Speaker 4 (01:37:03):
No, shut the fuck, no, Burgirl speaking like it's It
is very interesting when you put it into that, into
those parameters.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
Yeah, the loss think Sammy still doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 4 (01:37:17):
No, it makes zero sense. Yeah, it was awful. There
is so much to this story and all the random
shit that's coming out of there. By the way, I
don't know if you saw did you see the thing
that I sent you? Uh, probably like two hours ago
now at this point where it was Seth's something talking

(01:37:38):
about Seth and Becky's book where somebody took the audio
book first, Yeah, where like I hear that, and I'm
just going to myself. I'm like, you know, when you
hear a Bronze Strowman or dare I even say a
Sasha where she's like, yeah, there's these people with egos
backstage and they act like this, and they act like that,
It's like you hear you hear a little sprinkles. Yeah, Okay,

(01:38:03):
all right, I'm willing to buy it. I'm willing to
buy this. Clearly some level of bullshit and nepotism and
lies obviously, and you know, favoritism. I mean, would you
be shocked if we were to find out down the
line from Cross where he's saying the people that were
telling him to ignore it would be someone like, uh,
like Michael Hayes. Michael Hayes would say, oh no, brother,

(01:38:25):
just ignore it, because Michael Hayes is trying to get
his guy over.

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
Right, sure to get him.

Speaker 4 (01:38:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:38:31):
I absolutely believe that carrying Cross feels like an experiment
that has failed too many times for WWE, and the
fact that there's even any kind of push behind him
now that there's any kind of fanfare now feels like
a Trojan horse. It feels fake and I and I'm
not siding with WWE in any way on this, but

(01:38:54):
I can understand the money mindset behind it. Look, we
had carrying Cross down in NX with Scarlet. They got over.
They had great matches or Cross had great matches. People
were invested in the guy. We brought him up as
a Trojan gladiator. It didn't get it didn't go well,
didn't go.

Speaker 4 (01:39:11):
Well for some reason.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
We repackaged him a little bit and brought him back
out there, started hav him grow his hair. That was
kind of tepid when they would just show up every
week and then Scarlett would be talking about TikTok and
nobody cared about that. And then we eventually just started
throwing him a bunch of guys. Right. He got you know,
baby Huey and baby Lewis together, and he was working

(01:39:33):
with them, and he had fucking Paul ellering with him,
and we gave him the mis to fuck with and yeah,
it just nothing really happened there. And oh now now
all of a sudden people are into him, Like if
you look at it from that perspective, even though it's

(01:39:53):
w we's fault for the projection that they had of Cross.
I really do feel like at that point you had
Cross who had a ton of ideas and clearly is
a fucking vocal and creative guy and well spoken and
very intelligent, and so is his wife, and he worked

(01:40:14):
so well together. It's amazing that you can have these
people in their own time show off all of these
talents that just oohs charisma and interest. They're wild people
with real fucking depth. And the storylines that they were
put on in TV and the matches and the feuds

(01:40:37):
all felt very surface, felt very generic, and it's like, oh, well,
Cross didn't do anything. Look, we gave him all these opportunities,
did you. And by the time they actually just left
Scarlet and Cross to their own mechanisms. I mean, even
the Sami stuff was at least interesting. I mean, if

(01:40:59):
it went the way it should have went, which was
Cross murders the fuck out of Sammy, Sammy picks up
the bar and fucking swings at Scarlet, or he fucking
swings at Cross. You know, like if there was these
moments where he corrupted the Captain America, Superman, fucking hero
vigilante feels that Sammy Zain is attached himself to and

(01:41:23):
turned him into a monster. That is the interesting creation
that Cross was bringing us. But because of all the
fails of WWE not understanding it, it's Cross and Scarlet's
fault and that's just really unfair. But I feel like
that's the way it was presented.

Speaker 4 (01:41:43):
There is also something to the idea of in that moment,
just play the hot hand and see what the fuck happens,
which I don't understand when that stopped being a thing
in WWE. Now I completely agree with the person that say, hey, man,
just because somebody seems like they get over for thirty seconds,

(01:42:04):
it doesn't mean put the heavyweight fucking championship on them,
but lean into it a little, right, right, at least
at least see what the fucking happened. And when you say, oh, hey,
you know, we had him try this, it didn't work.
We had him try that, it didn't work. We hadn't
try this didn't work. We had to try. At some point,
I'm thinking to myself, I'm going, okay, so you try.

(01:42:25):
You thought enough of the person to try five things.
If on number six it works, do that right. It's
very weird.

Speaker 3 (01:42:33):
Look, it isn't like all the bridges have been burnt,
and we don't want to give you another chance. Like
that's what it felt like at the end. And if
he's saying, look, there are people telling you, don't feed
into it, don't go out there and do anything, just
ignore them, then I would assume that if it was
Michael Hayes or Brother Love or any of these people, right,

(01:42:56):
Bruce Pritchard, they're telling him that because they already know
that he's at the end. They don't want him doing
anything to disrupt the stories they don't want. And I
know he brought up earlier too, like you know, the
people chanting his name and stuff. They sure don't want
another CM punk situation. They hated them, And I know

(01:43:18):
Stephanie addressed it whendn't happened because they were forced to
because fans, fans for years would not let WWE forget
about CM punk, kind of like fans for years wouldn't
let people forget about Stone Cold with what.

Speaker 4 (01:43:34):
And there is something too, like I said, you just
do whatever the fuck, Like, if it's working for right now,
you go with it. Wrestling at this point in probably
over the last ten years and a lot of this,
I will go back to blaming the Shield and Sena

(01:43:55):
because they seem to be the biggest perpetrators of this
whole thing, or at least maybe the biggest benefactors. But
it's this thought process that we're gonna put a fucking
we're gonna put our flag here, and now these are
the only people that need to be over for ten
to twenty years. And it's like, no, no, no, it's

(01:44:15):
okay if somebody is a big star and popular for
like two years, and then if it falls apart and
it tapers off and people don't care as much, you
move on from it. Like it's weird because I get
where it's a you know, we're putting older money and
we're investing in and all this shit. But at the

(01:44:36):
same exact time, how long did it take for the
Roman experiment to pay off? In the last year, we've
seen him finally get a good reaction as a baby face.
They've been doing that shit since what twenty ten, eleven?
Fifteen years? And whoa wow, we've fucking stuck it out

(01:45:00):
for fifteen years and we're finally getting the results we want.
And that's the obsession as opposed to it's like, well,
this person's popular right now? Uh fuck you. Why give
it a try, see what happens, and like I said,
if it works out for six months, cool, They did
the same. It's so weird because this is the same

(01:45:21):
shit that they did with Daniel Bryan or Brian Danielson.
And clearly the injuries didn't help and that derailed him
and he was already at a place in his career
where it probably wasn't sustainable.

Speaker 3 (01:45:30):
Well no, even if we go back to the Nexus stuff, yeah,
remember that initial who did he choke out? Was it
Justin Justin Roberts with the tie and they freaked out
and they fired him, and everybody was like, what the
fuck are you doing? Like this was the only guy
we were waiting for from Nexus.

Speaker 4 (01:45:48):
Right Wait, believe it or not, we were not on
baited breaths for what Michael? Oh yeah, what was his name?
The guy Michael?

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
Michael, No, not Michael, the guy I know, the big
black dude, Yeah, boxer guy Michael Tarvor. Thank you Eddie.

Speaker 4 (01:46:03):
Yeah, yes, like all those songs we've got Michael Tarvor,
We're doing great. Uh no, but that's it. It's very
strange to me because, like I said, they're all because
maybe it's just a strictly big business mindset of it,
where it's like, if we're going to push this person,
we have to push them for the next three thousand
fucking years.

Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
Yeah. But it's not even just that, though, Joe. The
The problem isn't the fact that they push the same people.
Oh no, that is a problem, But that's not what
the problem with this is. The problem is is wwe
went so far as to try different gimmicks, different characters,
different stories with this guy. They were willing to invest time,
and they invested all this time, and when they finally

(01:46:48):
start seeing results, instead of saying, oh my god, are
hard work paid off, they're like hit the bricks, like
it's it's weird. It's like, hey, we invested in this player, right,
he's a blue chip or first round draft pick. Oh,
he wasn't that good in the first year. Oh he
wasn't that good in the second year, third year, they're

(01:47:09):
a holy shit, he finally picked it up. He's a
great running back, he's he's making the two thousand yard club.
He's amazing. But his contract's up. Oh well, fuck him.

Speaker 4 (01:47:19):
Yeah. It sounds like that picture on the Pittsburgh Pirates
right now, they're like, yeah, we're not gonna pay him.
He's the most important player in baseball. Basically, it's so weird.

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
It's it's a it's a weird misstep by WWE, who
is so infatuated with money. They like money, Joe, I
don't know if you heard this.

Speaker 4 (01:47:39):
Yeah, they tend to like it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:40):
They do, and it's it's it's literally their spoils, right,
these this is their the fruits of their labor have
come to fruition. And it's like instead of embracing it
and going shit, we think you finally found a kid
and leaning into it, they're like, nah, three years is

(01:48:00):
off four years.

Speaker 4 (01:48:01):
I love the WWE test kitchen, just like the idea
of it, where it's like, all right, we made six
different versions of this new pop tart. Let's try him,
all right. It's like number one kind of gross. Number two,
this is also pretty gross. Number three not great, but
not bad either, right, Number four, it's okay, I guess

(01:48:23):
Number five, eh, number six, well it looks pretty good.
And then they just take number six and throw it
out an open window. Fuck you. None of these pop
types were my idea.

Speaker 3 (01:48:38):
He's well, his idea, Dan says, might not be exactly
the same. But what would you say is the difference
between the rest of Peace, bray Wyatt and Cross in
terms of their creative creativity and getting pushed image? And
I say, well, I mean the things that we heard

(01:48:58):
about bray Wyatt was, first off, they gave bray wyitet
a lot more than they gave Cross a lot more.
But apparently bray Wyatt didn't even get to do all
the things that he wanted to do. And because of
the handicapping, whatever it may be, you know, in hindsight,

(01:49:19):
the handcapping of not letting him push his storylines to
fruition made a lot of his characters and stuff wacky
and silly. I genuinely think when he did the Peewee's
Playhouse bit, the fun house bit, I think that was
supposed to be a lot more fucking sinister. I think
there was supposed to be a lot more subtle undertones

(01:49:40):
and a lot more of a serial killer vibe. And
after a while it just became awful to watch. It
was awful, Joe.

Speaker 4 (01:49:51):
Basically, I mean, this is just an opinion. I most
of what bray Wyatt did outside of is anitie, you know,
Katee fear stuff I thought was rotten. I mean, that's
just my feeling. I'm watching all of it and sitting
through it.

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
There were games, I feel you. I think the thing
that he did best was the Wyatt family. Dude. I
still vividly remember how creepy it was when The New
Day showed up in the middle of a fucking cornfield
in the middle of the night and there's the Wyatt
family and they're all beating each other and then like
all the lights show up in the background. I don't
know if they were on cars, like Christine or Highlander

(01:50:31):
or something, and it's like, all of a sudden, oh
the hail Billy.

Speaker 4 (01:50:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:50:36):
Yeah, It's like, oh, you're in a field three three
black ters and a field full of religious Christian cultist
fundamentalists or something. Yeah, no, not a place to be, boys,
gotta go. And it was it was a vibe to it.
It was like, oh, that is dark and evil. And
when he came out with the rocking chair and doing
that stuff in WWE with the fireflies, that was fun too.

(01:50:59):
But once again, it's it's almost like there were these
flashes of brilliance with Bray Wyatt. I think even the
silly shit that he tried to do. Remember the Tupac
hologram that he had that the like they were genuinely
giving this man crazy levels of creativity, but then they didn't.

(01:51:22):
It's like, oh, you can be this creative, but I
got to put my fucking spice in there to ruin it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:28):
You know when he thought his last match being a
promotion for a Mountain Deuce spinoff, Yeah, it's But dude,
with the bray Wyatt thing, they fucked out right from
the beginning, which I I, it's funny to test off
old bray Wyatt shit, but realistically it was a It
was a testament to the fact that WWE, like I said,

(01:51:50):
has their people in their mind, and they still do
this very obviously that these are the stars, these are
the people they are gonna get over. Everyone else can
just hang in the and that's okay, and we'll think
about it. We'll think about it if you're real good
for fifteen years. But even with bray Wyatt, I remember
when the whole thing even first started. He came out

(01:52:11):
to the character and three weeks later they had him
in a pay per view match, and I said, why
are they even having him wrestled this suit. He's got
all these henchmen with him. The henchman should all be
fighting for him, and eventually he should be a final boss.

Speaker 3 (01:52:23):
And they fucked that up immediately, and then they tried
to put it back in the box because then they
tried doing that later on, where I was like, no,
nobody can wrestle Pray, whyatt, We've already seen him get
his ass kicked a lie, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (01:52:36):
And by the way, we saw that his wrestling style. Yeah,
he did some like random like a little athletic back
bendi and shit like that. And even then I was like,
that's not as mean and dark and evil as it
should a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:52:47):
They even tried to reset him, Joe. They burned him
alive to try and reset the character and come back
as Alexa Bliss's zombie.

Speaker 4 (01:52:58):
Oh man, ww we era of the COVID times. We
try to pretend like those didn't exist. Man, those really
there's a reason why we were able to do one
hundred and twenty shows and we didn't talk about WWA.
It was rotten. It was fucking ass rotten, Ray mystereo

(01:53:19):
fake getting his eye ripped out. Oh god, that shit
was fucking bad. Yeah, and then the people on the
internet were angry because Buddy Murphy was dating Ray Mysterio's
daughter and they didn't like the age difference and all
this shit. I'm just like, guys, the show sucks. People
are dying. We can't go outside. I don't think this is.

Speaker 3 (01:53:41):
It's either this or Filipino baseball. Guys.

Speaker 4 (01:53:43):
Come on, I can't I can't watch the fucking Sopranos again.
I can't do it again.

Speaker 3 (01:53:51):
Oh my god. Everybody was just talking about the Tiger
King for like thirty weeks. Yeah, they're just.

Speaker 4 (01:53:57):
Like, yeah, this is this gay guy that abuses animals.
I'm like, yeah, I can't wait to watch that. That
sounds great.

Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
Let's get ready to wrap it up. Everybody much love.
Thanks for hanging out with us on this raw recap.
We'll be back for Thursday obviously, Thursday Night Soup. New
Evolve show is up a little late on that, but
definitely check it out with Jeff Lipman and Don Reynolds.
New LFG show should be coming this week as well.
And yeah, Saturday, I know is the big Triple Mania show.

(01:54:25):
I'm not going to be around for that. Joey, I
don't know if you're gonna do a post, but you
know that's all you if you want to. And Friday night,
Frank and Gus, we might have to do that on Thursday.

Speaker 4 (01:54:34):
So maybe I'll have a grande Bostonian show.

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
Sure, maybe that'll be fun.

Speaker 4 (01:54:41):
Get a green mask?

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