LEGENDS AND FUTURE GREATS REVIEW SHOW S2 EPISODE 9 (Wrestling Stew 8.27.25) w/ @Lufisto

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tonight on LFG, all the damn work. I'll put it
in with you, you fistos.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
What can you do with this person who's new so
they look good, you look good, and everybody's safe.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
I'll put him in a black leather jacket, a black eye.
Jeff Lippman. It looked like she was too slow for school,
but she came out playing the hot mean girl.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Look down now, chas now cloud the whole thing to
the crown.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Put him in a stew boy them, put him in
the stew buy them frighten, put in the stew and
push b J down the stairs. Hello, ladies and gentlemen,
this is LFG Season two, episode nine. What doesn't kill
You makes you stronger? Apparently, Yes, that's what they say.

(01:00):
That's what it was about this week with contestants that
were not chosen last week. How are you, my dear Jeff.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
I'm doing fine, my dear, LuFisto, And I see Laposto
is there again also, So that's fantastic. The whole one
of them, one of them. They're all apostles. It's like
it's like Elviano's there's one two. So yeah, it's episode nine.
The second half is underway, and as I come to
understand it, this is the LuFisto Show, and I'm like

(01:30):
the Brian Last to your Jim Cornette or maybe the
stack guy Greg to your Peter Rosenred. But whatever you prefer.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Is it who said that?

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well, I could, the analogy is mine. But but you
know it's this is definitely the You're definitely the star
of the show. I'm I'm the psidekick and you know what,
I'm okay with that.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh, I'm the Jim Cornette. Then you're Brian Last. I mean,
it's it's a great team and they get a lot
of a lot of listeners, so I'll take the compliment.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Not so bad. I mean, I'm not a listener to
but I know Jen corn If Theeleosander Gen Cornets for
many many years, and I know who Brian's last name is.
So hey, I'll tell you I've heard of him. I mean,
now he's heard of me. After this, Hey, I guess
we're done.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Then thank you, fuck you.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
By that's all folks.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
That's actually what I want to tell BJ. But it
is what it is. I mean, this week was all
about and which was interesting to me. It was all
about the people that were not chosen as top men
and women last week, So pretty much everybody we didn't see,
and some of them we haven't seen for a while. Tatiana,

(02:43):
And here's the thing. Well, first of all, let's start
with that we know what happened to Elijah. Elijah Alifield
is now out completely of season two. He has a
torn bicep. And it's funny because we were talking about
it last week. You know, how was he acting to
that and what was his mindset and was he kind

(03:05):
of down or more like, you know, I'll get through
this and I'll make it back. And well, I'm not
surprised to say that it's you know, exactly what it is.
He says like, I'm gonna fight this. I'm gonna, you know,
get work on my injury and come back better and stronger.

(03:25):
So you know, I'm I love what I saw from
Elijah so far. So I can't wait to have him back,
and I hope he heals, you know, well, without any
problems fast, and hopefully we can see him in LFG
season three, if they decide that there's a season three.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah. Yeah, I was very happy to get a full
report on Elijah and actually to see Elijah basically cut
the promo, speak candidly. Whatever was in exactly the vein
that we both wanted to hear, so great, and it
was actually sort of like almost like a joyous almost
like an emotional moment of bonding between Bubba and Elijah.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
You know, there's an old saying it ain't in ballet.
I was genuinely heartbroken for you, and I don't do feelings.
I was enjoying your coming out so much this season
to see you become the Elijah holy Field that you

(04:28):
wanted to be.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
I was like, oh yeah, Well, Bubba's like, I'm heartbroken
for you, but why is your shirt on? And he's like, well,
I've got this braysunline. He's like he's like, take your
shirt up. So he's just like, you're too sexy, man,
take your sure, you're too sexy for your trick. And
that that was actually, you know for Bubba who said
he doesn't do feelings, and listen, I pretend I don't

(04:49):
do feelings either, so I know that he does and
somewhere inside he's better at high end than I am,
for sure. But that was sweet. Now Tatiana and Dale Dan,
she's back, and of course They give us a very
detailed explanash about what her injury was, what the recovery was,
what happened, what went wrong. No, nothing, not a darn

(05:10):
thing about that. That never happened. We imagined it.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
We probably drank too much alcohol that day, we were
on drugs. Pick a reason that didn't happen. And here's
one thing we saw though. Haarlem was thinking about his
discussion with Booker T and to the point he says
he didn't sleep and he's very focused now on his

(05:38):
new target, which is a Shiloh hill. He says, everything
is earned and not deserve. I'll take him somewhere where
he don't want to go. And here's something really funny.
They say it's early morning at the PC, and then
we see him leave. It's like very dark. So I'm like,

(05:59):
either they messed it up and you know it's they
film the car part at night, or it was so early,
actually so early that it was still dark outside when
Arlem was at the gym, which is which would explain,
you know, the fact he didn't sleep. It's three o'clock,

(06:21):
three four o'clock in the morning, gets up, goes to
the gym and then it's still still dark, he's thinking
about Booker. T that's how he spends his night.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, maybe he doesn't have to be back till four
o'clock the next day. Maybe he had the day off
or just training or just the ice path or whatever,
you know, therapy, what whatnot. There was one other part
and then I definitely want to go back to this
because the things you said, I mean basically these you're
you're you're stealing the questions I had type for you,
and we did hear Danny also say that the Taker
challenges are and actually we heard Takers to get a

(06:53):
little bit meaner and bring out that little evil. So
that's fine, and that was pushed all week. But yeah,
Harlem was finishing as you said, he's ponder is talk
with Booker, and he doesn't seem any happier, and he's
angry at the guy who's doing the interview the camera.
He's like, okay, we're done. Here was a little aggressive,
and as you pointed out, you know, first of all,
I'm like, lud, does Harlem seem to be a little

(07:15):
bit in his own head? And before I have a
chance to hit question mark, he says what you just
said about Shiloh, which is why is he projecting on Shiloh?
Doesn't it seem a little hasty? I mean, isn't it
like wasn't that Anthony Luke? It was the guy that
was like, you know, in front of him for is it?
It's like it's like if he can't defeat someone, he's

(07:35):
going for another target. I just want to know where
is his head at? I mean, it does seem like projection.
It seems like unfocused projection, which is probably better than
focused projection, I suppose now that I think about it,
But does he seem like he's in his own head?
And where's his head at? Which is basically the same
question in two different ways, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (07:54):
It's strange because it feels like he's he's trying to
find the reason why he's not moving forward as fast
as he he thought he would be. So you know, oh,
it's because of Booker T, like he he's stopping me
from being who I, oh, I should be and then
has a talk with Booker T kind of figures out,

(08:15):
you know, Bookert is here to help me, so it's
not him, So oh, you know what, you know, it's
the Undertaker keeps saying like the runner up, Shiloh, he's
the one to beat. He's the one to beat. Well, no,
I'm better than him, so he's my target now. It's
like he has so much frustration in it, and he
he has this intense personality, but he's trying to focus

(08:38):
his hate on someone in particular instead of fixing whatever
is wrong with him. Like I honestly felt that the
car thing kind of looked like extra fake, like are
we done here? Are we done here? I was like,
was that necessary? But I mean, if it's a thing
he does regularly, and they just like want wanted to

(09:02):
put it on TV to give us an idea of
his overall way of acting and talking and reacting this stuff,
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
This is the thing. I almost feel I'm not going
to do it. I was. I was still compelled to
look into his athletic background because I remember involved they
mentioned that he was like the leading tackler for an
Italian football league or an Italian American football league like
North America, which is swell. But what I don't know
is did he get kicked out of a Division one

(09:34):
in college or did he not make it to the
NFL just because he wasn't good enough or were there
disciplinary issues? Were there like the anger management issues he's
talked about in the past. Is that what kept them
from not making it to the next levels here or
was it just that he just wasn't good enough with
the NFL or what he took a paying job with

(09:54):
the Italian Football League and then he would go to
the Mexican League and the Chinese league and they all
have professional North American Football leagues and where you know,
you could work you know, three, you know, full time
jobs for twelve weeks and then you know, and and
I guess that's your year. But I don't know. Like
I said, I'm not gonna do it. Maybe somebody who's
listening knows more about it, knows where he went to college,

(10:16):
if he went to college, and things like that, and
find out if there's time. But I think this is
how he was in Evolved, which you know, everyone says
you take yourself and you turn it up to eleven,
that that's wrestling. Maybe he's already a ten and a
half and maybe his problem is that he doesn't have
like a five, and maybe he needs to find his five.

(10:39):
He's already got his eleven. Maybe he just needs to
find his five. I'm not sure. I'm obviously not a psychologist.
I was a psych minor. I went to college in
eighty six to ninety, so I'm sure everything that was
talked to me then has been discredited by by now.
I mean, I think back then we thought that the
brain was in the gallbladder. So you know, I don't know,

(11:00):
but I don't know. Targeting Shiloh, I get it, he's
the top dog now, but bro, you got one point.
You haven't been been anyone. Your coach is on you, like, okay,
going after the top dog is you know, is admirable.
But he's not even really top dog. I mean he's
like no one in the like the points at the end,

(11:21):
Like two guys have two points and one of them
was Elijah, so he's a By the way, another question,
last year bj Ray got injured and they replaced him
Cutler James, who's now in Dark State. Are they going
to replace bj or are we just going to go
with Bubba having a three person team that was completely
left silent?

Speaker 2 (11:39):
You mean replacing Elijah? I'm sorry, yes, I mean it
would make sense because do you want to see bj
every episode? And honestly, is it fair to Bubba. No,
it's not because VJ is not a top player first
of all, and to just finish on our limb. It
goes back to what we say. It's like, we don't
know enough about these people to kind of understand why

(12:02):
they are the way they are. We have a glimpse
of our limb and something being wrong with his mom
like five six episodes ago, and nothing else, and then
this happens and he's got anger management issues and here
we are and now he's targeting Shiloh and why when?

Speaker 1 (12:25):
What I mean unless you're like Andrew Tate and in
the manosphere, he's unlikable. So I mean, that's a nothing
without doing reality television, without focusing that much on the
people and their and their character, not their characters, their
real lives.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
We need to like that they're not all likable some
of them and some of them might be likable, but
they don't have animated personalities. I mean, we need to
know a little bit about them. And it's like, who
told them they need to have two seasons within you know,
five months of twelve weeks? Like why not make it

(13:02):
fifteen or sixteen weeks and get to know the people
A little bit more and maybe actually, just do you know,
I mean, at this rate, they'll have four seasons in
one year if they really want to. I mean, I
know these people are really training, and they're on the timetable,
and they want to get them, you know, advanced. But
I feel like they want to get them all advanced,
and that sort of defeats the premise of the show.
I meanses some advance and some don't. We understand some

(13:26):
get a second choice, the chance, maybe even a third,
but I don't know. Speaking of people getting Tatiana and
Booker have a hard talk. Frankie, we got no information
from this. All we got from Booker is that you've
got to prove a lot to me. You've got to
prove a lot to everyone.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
You gotta prove a lot of Tatiana the veteran. That's
that's now they refer to.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yes. I guess because season two and made it to
two episodes. I I don't know. I mean, this is
this talk was unsatisfactory. I mean, at least the one
between Booker and Harlem we got at the heart of
the matter. You know, we didn't get the details that
we wanted. We didn't get the emotion that we wanted,
but we got the heart of the matter. That's what
tat Dam Booker was nothing. It was like two lines.

(14:08):
I mean, I felt like I got more insight into
Michelle will cool and when she was fine tuning Summer's
character and like using you know, show a little sass
and whatever. Like I'm starting to like you know, we
both said, we're starting to like Michelle Moore a weekend.
Wee get I'm starting to understand your style and see
how she's related to you know, her team and how

(14:29):
she's invested in them. And now they how they how
they like her, not like not like you know, I
want to say den mother, but that's not right. Like
a coach, but a coach that they like. Like we
used to have a coach he was better in Innneapolis
and Baltimore. But a guy named Ted Marchibroda, and he was,
you know, he was more the likable type of coach
than the like the Bill a chep, you know, Bill
Parcell's kind of coach that you loved him. I hated him.

(14:51):
I don't know, but I felt like I got more
insight into their relationship than I did with Booker and
Tatiana maybe there is no Maybe I got it, maybe
I understood it. Port be right that they happened.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
So Tiana has to show hard Summer. That's what Michelle
tells her, like she she has to. She has a
lot of presents, but she has to use it not
only in her entrance, she has to use it in
the ring as well while she's wrestling. So and something
really interesting that happened here also is Summer's mentioning how

(15:23):
stiff Tatiana is that she can't remember anything once she's
in the ring, and it's like twice we hear that,
So that that was something interesting that I I made
sure to look within the match if I could see
like spots when it happened, and it did so. Actually
they were the first match, and what was impressive to

(15:47):
me was they were in front of a crowd with
her coaches, Michelle and Booker, so it kind of a
main event first match.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
I want to talk a little bit about this because
she did mention that conversation with Summer and Tatiana. But
Tatiana again sort of interrupted Summer's promo time and started
shit talking her and basically trying to intimidate her and say,
oh are you gonna remember the match. I'm the veteran,
I'm the one that's following, and I yeah, I know
the match. Are you gonna are you gonna make me
look good of it? And like good for summer. But

(16:18):
she stood her ground and she's like, who's gonna remember
their spots? I'll remember mine? Where have you been? You
got injured?

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Job?

Speaker 1 (16:24):
And so good for summer for standing on. But this
is Tatiana. Remember I told you at the beginning that
she was like sort of a bully, Like last year
she blamed Tyra may Steele for everything, and you're like,
you're blaming the Olympic gold medals, who, by the way,
is a p l E on NXT, you know, so
you know who's laughing now. But then she then she
was sort of on someone else. I think it was Zena,

(16:45):
but I'm not even sure. But whatever it is, it's
like she's always like pecking, peck and peck. I mean
it's a little bit like Harlem, except Harlem's like he
says it to the camera and then he he's aggressive
in the ring. I mean, it's it, but he like
he doesn't shit talk them, you know, He's not like
trying to get in their head like the whole time,
Like she's always trying to get in their head the

(17:06):
whole time, you know, like like Seth Rollin's character, she's
always like talking talking about he like if they talking,
they're agenting the match and he disagrees. Yeah, like Harlem
will get into and you know, we'll get chippy about it,
but he's not like always in the background, like sort
of being a nuisance, you.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Mean, lack of visionary in the bandground.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
I can almost see the high heels.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
And the puffy shirt. But by the way, did you
did you notice that they said like we we have
to prepare, like we prepared this match all day, and
that that made me wonder, like how long do they
have to prepare a match, you know, each and every time,

(17:55):
because you know, usually you go to the show, you
might have you know, a few minutes tops an hour,
you know, you get ready, you go some merch or whatever.
But then they were like all day, and that got
me wondered, how long is that is that? Like five hours?

(18:15):
Two hours? What's a day in the life of an
LFG contestant? And I was like, if they work all
day on the match and they've been there especially like Tatiana.
You know about you know about how long they've been
there more than me. If I can't remember for summer,

(18:37):
I think she was there last the last time, right
was she? Or she's one of the new ones.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
She was not on LFG, but she's she was on
Evolve from that post.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Okay, Yeah, I was like I knew she she was somewhere,
but I sometimes like confuse the two. But I was like,
you know what if you if it takes all day
to prepare a match and you've been there again, it's
not like someone who wrestles only on weekends. It's like
that's their everyday job and that's what they do, is

(19:09):
like all days, Like hm, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
It's like.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
I would love to see what they're learning within the day.
These are all questions that I'm really interested in and
I have no answer. Unfortunately, that would make.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
There's a friendly Canadian somewhere there you can reach out to,
but like, this is not I can add nothing to
because the only match agent I know about is the
legendary Macho Man, you know, Ricky Stamletz or we're Macha
Man basically like a storyboard.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah, like you like you.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Had it all animated out in the moving picture frame
so you could see a frame by frame, so you know,
so one extreme to to the other. But yeah, I
mean I put a match, though I have aware, like
at the Indies that like you know, a lot of
times the bookers are gonna say, hey, it's like seven
minutes about time. Okay, we're gonna do with death, Matt,
don't do this. And then you guys have five minutes
to clean this up, and I'm gonna go over and

(20:05):
all your throw you know, do this and whatever. So
I know that happens, but I have no idea how
long they have. I'm gonna, I mean, whatever it is,
whatever this means. I'll allow them to have more time
because they are all rookies and h well not so
I get it. But it is interesting to find out
how just how much time, how much rehearsal, how many

(20:25):
different matches do they have, beause some of them look
like they're strangely the same, and sometimes they're even on
the same show. But based on the clothing the judges
are where we know that they sort of mix up
things for I guess entertainment value and not continuity value.
So you know who knows. Maybe maybe it's you know,
maybe if we look back and cross reference all the matches,

(20:48):
we find that there's only like five matches total. I'm
not doing that. You're not doing it. But maybe somebody will,
somebody out there will. I mean, we we know wrestling fans,
there's some different urgents out there. Somebody's gonna do it,
and they're gonna do an excellent job with it.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
So Doumas is a face. She goes out like goes
with the famous come on, gets the crowd going summer,
going out as a heel, same kind of entrance. I
I'd like, yeah, I saw her as a face. Yeah, well,

(21:24):
the look the makeup is very heel.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
Crawley thing, a little bit of the Wendy Chew creepy crawley,
you know, like almost like when Trill comes out. Okay,
if that's listen, one of the questions I have you,
I'm gonna I'm gonna go back to it later, So okay,
let's just stick with Tatiana comes out of summer. Absolutely
came out like a heel cocky. That was I mean,
well done.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
And the start was very also cocky, you know, kind
of ducking, the ducking, the lock up and going the ropes,
kind of being a little chicken. And here's something very interesting.
They go into the lock up and Tatiana grubs an
r and it's the wrong arm, and right from some
I'm like, m is she wrestling Mexican style? But then

(22:07):
you hear, you know, one of the judges like, that's
the wrong arm. Good thing though she switched. Sometimes you
do get into an arm bar and then your your
position is weird, so you grab one to you know,
kind of reverse into the next one rapidly so you
can actually work on the good arm, which is the

(22:28):
left arm in North American wrestling.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Because I heard book I heard Booker Michelle Tolki, and
he goes, that's the wrong side, and she goes, yeah,
and Michelle's I couldn't hear what she said, but it
was basically in a cent and then Booker says, it's
the wrong side again, and you know, and yeah, I
didn't know, you know, so so so was this.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Tatiana Summer who grabbed their own there now that arm
bar was Tatiana. Okay, there we go.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Right from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
One thing that I liked about Summer this time is like,
well that I like you could see that she was
talking a lot, and that's where I'm like, Okay, she's
talking to Tatiana a lot. She's lost, she's calling her
the spots. You could clearly see it. You're like, Okay,
someone's lost. Someone's lost. And I feel like while she

(23:19):
had her in the headlock, you could clearly see her like, hey,
that's where we're at. And they kind of got back
into it like they had a nice like they did
a hope spot fin and then the cut off again.
And I would say that go to the comeback was
really cool. Like Summer had Tatiana in the hole, they

(23:39):
work the crowd up, work, work work into a jawbreaker
and then a few bumps and that's where everything went
like whoops, something happened again. Everything slowed down, and that's where,
like you know, and the way they look at each other,
it's like, Okay, somebody's lost again. You clearly see it

(23:59):
because they're in the come back fire boom boom boom.
And then it completely changes and Summer kind of went
out of the ring and then came back feed on
the rope one two three. I was like, okay, so
that was that. Yeah, let me.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Say what I look. I loved the sequence when Summer
repeatedly slammed Tatiana's head into the mat over and over.
That was great heel work. Yeah, and not because I
metaphorically wanted to do it. Obviously, I did not know
who made the mistake. I you know, I do. I
did find it very hard to root for Tatiana as
a face coming back when she doesn't seem like a

(24:41):
face to me. I mean, of all the ironies, the
things I said earlier is that you'd like to get
to know these people a little bit more as a person.
The only one like I feel like I'm getting to
know outside of the Ring or outside of the mat.
I mean, there's a couple, but Tatiana is one of them.
And what I've gotten to know I don't like, which
which is, you know, not a great thing. But you

(25:03):
said someone got lost, and Books said that too. He
said they got lost, and and and then Michelle says,
wasn't that supposed to be a rollover? And suppose so
who who got lost? I mean, I'm gonna I'm gonna
guess that by Summer going out of the Ring, she
was trying to regroup, but maybe just to reset the
match or was she the one that was lost? Was
Tatiana lost? Do we have any idea?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
No, I really feel it was Tatiana twice. Like I
mentioned before, you clearly see as Summer has on a headlock.
You see her talk to Tatiana for a while like
it's Summer had great like heal character kind of the
whole match, cheating, you know, jaw jacking, arguing the referee.

(25:46):
I think for her like it was a good night,
like being a heel. Let's say it this way. And
but the comeback is supposed to be, like I said,
like house of fire, boom boom boom, boom boom. Try
to go for a pen and then you know, you
slowly go to your go home sequence and instead of

(26:07):
you know, kind of having things go fast or up
and down and being exciting and have like what we
call falses where there's one pen close for one and
then there's one for the others, like who's gonna win?
Everything went like when when Tatiana was up, when she
was having control of the match as a babyface, doing

(26:27):
her comeback, and then suddenly it kind of stopped. That
tells me that she didn't know what was what she
needed to do next, So probably like, yeah, at one point,
Summer just like rolled out and said whatever. Probably maybe
it was planned just so she rolls out, rolls in

(26:48):
to be close to the ropes, so it's you know,
easier to put the feet of the rope while the
referee is on the other side, so don't he doesn't
see what's going on. But yeah, just just a that
the rhythm of the match kind of stopped. That tells
me that she was she was lost. She forgot the
next spot she had to do after the bump and

(27:09):
feed come back.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah, the finish was well done, but it was abrupt
and it probably would have been more impactful if the
match was done correctly. Instead, we sort of got something
that was just out of the blue. Now I have
a theory as to why we did not hear the
coaches speak more about what had happened and what went wrong,
And that theory is that, for whatever reason or reasons,

(27:31):
they've already invested enough in Tatiana to put her on
live shows, and so they don't want to bury her
on national TV while she's you know, on these these
mini tours or or well, I guess tours. Are these
shows that an next he's doing, which I guess makes sense,
but I, you know, listen, unless she's improved a lot,
and maybe she has, it's entirely possible. I don't know

(27:51):
what she's doing there anyway. At the end we see
summer cut of promo, basically she says Basically she says.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
Look, I'm not I want to sit here and pretend
like Tatiana and I are on the same level, because
we're clearly not. You want fake friendly, go watch a
Disney movie. Because I'm not here to be relatable. I'm
here to be remembered.

Speaker 7 (28:13):
I'm not gonna downplay the fact that I'm simply better
than her, and I'm gonna be better than everyone else
in this competition. The message I sent tonight is that
I'm just better than you, all of you.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
I'm not relatable. This isn't the Disney movie. I'm here
to show you that I'm better than everyone here. I'm
better than you, a little bit like your anime there.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Better than all of you. I like the line where
she said I don't want to be relatable, I want
to be memorable. That was a great line. Shirt. I think,
you know, considering one of them got lost the match
was a bad like, they did well considering the loss,
and it was great work from Summer to take the

(28:58):
time and you know, stop and try to lead the match,
get the match back, you know, tell Tatiana where they were,
and you know, keep going and instead of just freezing
and nothing happening, like at least something was. They kept moving.
It was not like two people stop deer and I
had like kind of things that looks absolutely terrible. I

(29:23):
maybe the people in the crowd didn't even notice, but
since were really watching the match, not as fans but
more to analyze it, like I'll stop on those details,
but did people in the crowd really care? Probably not.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Well, I'm not gonna stop in those details because I
think the nurture in you is coming out that the
Runs of Federation runs a promotion and is trying to
encourage the talent as instinct, and I think that's lovely.
This was a bad match, and I think the only
reason I didn't stand out as a bad match is
because three of the matches were bad to Okay, there
was only one good match, and I'm not even sure
the match was good. But the people before one, well,

(30:00):
and we'll get to that but bad. I think it
was a bad match, but I'm not saying it was
the worst match, and it certainly wasn't the worst.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
It was okay, like I've seen a lot worse time,
thank God. Yet it's coming.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Despite everything we said about Tatiana. We we we saw
a worst performance tonight, but not yet because we see
Michelle with Trill and again, just Michelle has this connection.
She knows these people, she knows the people on her team.
She just she gets I mean, I don't know what
we're not seeing, but the essence, the little they give us,
it's like she has patients.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
That's something we can see. She takes the time to
analyze the people she's working with kind of I think
she knows what makes them tick, meaning like she she
knows what to say to be encouraging, supportive. She always
does like their mannerism and they're kind of like not

(30:58):
their logos, but they're like brand kind of thing. Like
she knows every single little things they do and she
do it at the same time. So to me that
that's shows a very motherly kind of coaching. And sometimes
like these people they're kids, So of course, if you
have someone who's nurturing takes the time to listen to you,

(31:20):
gives you, you know, comments without screaming or whatever. And
when I feel that she's the kind of coach that
when she sees you're not comfortable doing something, she'll find
a way to work around it. So you're your wealth
and whatever you do. That's how I feel Michelle works,
just by looking at her the way she talks, and

(31:41):
the way also the way also the her I was
going to say, we're contestants, but our students are are talking,
you know, listening, and they I feel they're really appreciative
of every little thing she does.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, I feel like they've tell you the time. And
I know, Mickey James, if you're listening, you're one of
my favorites. I know I'm not one of your favorites,
but I you know, most of the season, I've been like,
I want to Mickey James. I did, But at this
point I have to say, I'm okay with Michelle McCool here,
and I actually think she might be a better coach
because I think Mickey was more of the supporter the

(32:21):
nurture and Michelle is more of the coach. And somehow
Michelle manages to be both at the same time, which
which is something I don't think that can be talking anyway,
She's with Trill and she's like, and basically the story
with Trill is you just got to find Trill. And
she's like, I love that smile, and the smile goes
there it is she goes, she goes you don't even
do anything except b Trill and he's like, say less,

(32:43):
I got it. That's one of.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
The less is more less is more converse we see.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
We see either the most artificial converse, scripted, silly oxymoron
or conversation we've ever seen, or these two people have
the most trained relationship on TV without of being interesting
at all. That is Bubba ANDBJ. But I wanted to
let you to what you were gonna say, probably.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
With Bubba Bubba. That episode like had so many great quotes.
I was like, here's one that I really love. And
he says, fake has become the new reel. I'm like,
this is so true. People will do whatever, say whatever
to be loved, to be you know, somebody on the internet,

(33:33):
get the likes and stuff. It's like, you know, the
filters and every it's everything is so fake like that.
It's it's the new reel. It's it's so true and
in wrestling rustling as well. So you know BJ's asking
to be a heel. So Bubba ask him, do you
think there is money in having you as a heel,

(33:55):
which is a very important question. Is there money with
you being more than being a babyface? BJ says yes,
and Bubba goes on saying, you know, Trill is a loverable,
high flying babyface. If you can't be a heel with Trill,
there's something wrong with you. I was like, my god, absolutely,

(34:21):
like we've been saying it, like for me, one of
the top babyfaces of this whole season has been Trilled. Yeah,
he yeah, maybe the entrance is like a little bit
like kind of in between, but when he gets in there,
like he's such a babyface, like he has the fire,
looks at the crowd, like he's selling, gets sympathy from

(34:41):
the people because he's not that big, but he works
so well with that with his high flying style. And
it's really funny because they actually called it Trillardi Trillardy
and well when it comes to his opponent, BJ, Ray, I.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Don' this whole thing is the way they position this
conversation between Bj and Bubba is that BJ was griping
to Bubba in that he wanted to be a heel
and that Bubba had already agreed and already booked him
in a match with Trill. And Bubba's basically saying, so
you hear complaining to me because you want to be
a heel, but you're booked as a heel tonight against

(35:21):
Trill and he's what the face? So you're talking to
me about what you want when I've given you exactly
what you want, which, by the way, something nice about Bja.
It was his mother's birthday. I believe today today is
twenty seventh. His mother looks great, you know, age appropriate
for us, So happy about birthday, Mama, Ryan, you poor

(35:46):
poor brave patientation woman who actually looked happy. So good,
good for you. But yeah, so BJ gets what once
Trill is still dystopian. I had to get that in
because he still has the the you know, the hockey
mask on and whatnot. But just like Tatiana, maybe I'm

(36:07):
just old. And this is a question, lou Am, I
just olden that out of touch, you know? Or is
this how a face can enter these days? It just
doesn't matter anymore I'm just stuck. And if you come
and looking spooky and crawling around like you're an insect,
like you're out of the conjuring or whatever or hereditary,
I think that you're a bad guy, and I just
need to get that out of my head.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
It's just sometimes they have a gimmick where it's they
have kind of something cool, like for some reason, I'm
thinking Alistair Black right now, But I mean, he's a
heel at this moment, but at one point he was
a face or even the undertaker. Undertaker has a look
that would screams heal yeah. But then he was so

(36:50):
he was so different from everybody else that the crowd
kind of turned him into a babyface, which she pretty
much stayed besides like the I mean history after that,
like he was pretty much a face old his old career.
I think there was also a part where the American
Badass might have been a heel, but it saw like

(37:12):
over a career of thirty years. It's not many years
or even what months of him being a heel the beginning,
but then it took only if I remember very correctly,
he entered WW on November nineteen ninety and by nineteen
ninety two. He was kind of saving miss a little

(37:32):
bit from Jack Roberts and the snake, and because people
thought he was so cool that they kind of started
to cheer for him anyway, And so I think they
just had no other options than to turn him as
a baby faith even if he had like a morbid
kind of guy who puts people in the caskets, Like

(37:53):
you're like, this is bad, like who wants to be
buried alive? Well, the other taker is cool doing it,
so it might be kind of the same vibe thing Rosemary.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Gets hit the fiend, you know, sort of got hit exactly.
Bekla does the spider walk thing, and I think she's
a face now I'm not really sure, but okay, so
I'm just old now. Trill was wearing all black. Also,
I mean it is all black, okay for a face
to wear. I don't mean like trunks and boots, but
like he was wearing like longslee shirt, long pants, everything
all black. I mean, you know, am I too much

(38:26):
in you know, Cowboy and Indian movies where the bad
guy wears a black hat? Is that? Also? You know
old hat pun intended that wearing all black is doesn't
make you a heel any longer.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Thanks Steve. Austin was wearing all black and he was
the most popular wrestler ever. I mean personally, I like
a baby face to have colors, to stand out, to
shine to, you know, to be like completely different from
the heel. But in this instance here, I mean, there's

(38:59):
a guy who's the only different things he has now
and he's wearing a shirt that says Bubba. And a
sad part is that when this match started, I had
some hopes because they did the classic yay boo thing
and then Bjay attacked him and he was like trash

(39:20):
stalking between the moves. He was a little bit more aggressive,
but then he wouldn't stay on him. He would do
like I always say, it's really important what you do
between the moves, but you kind of got it. You
have to show dominance before you actually get to the

(39:41):
part where you just trash talk, like your opponent has
to be down to a point where it makes sense
that you're just like talking crap and he's selling. But
it's like he attacked him, barely touched him, left him there,
blah blah blah blah blah, and you could hear him
call the shots, and I was like, ah, come on man,

(40:03):
and you oh what Borash? Jerry Borash goes like, no,
what you see is not a bushwhacker, it's Bjay Ray.
I was like, yeah, I kind of feel bad for
the bushwalkers.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Could this whole thing? Ray came out the same as
you pointed out, The crowd is booing. Obviously they told
him to boo. I mean, because he came out exactly
the same. He comes up the same one they cheer
and he even sat in the you know, in the
stands jumps up that does the Lambeau leap thing. So
that was completely manufactured. I typed He's dressed like a
Putts because he looked like a Potts. He's got like,

(40:37):
you know, tight like mailman shorts on sneakers, not even
wrestling blues, white socks, and as you said, that same stupid,
you know, preppy shirt with his collar popped in just
has the word Bubba on it. I mean, it's like
it's it's it's like the pizza boy is better dressed
than him. This is this is this is like the
pool boy.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
This boy has a gimmick get placed.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
This is like the towel at the beach Club in
nineteen eighty two. I mean, this is this is terribly terrible,
and like you know, and somebody says, well, he's got heat,
first of all, bullshit they manufactured. It's like, oh, Andre goes,
well he's got heat with me, and like I'm not
even sure as to why get the point. I'm just
glad that he said it. I mean, did you know

(41:19):
he started arguing with the crowd? Good? I mean that
was the good part. And then the crowd cheer, cheers
trill again. I think they were set up to do so,
but I think they cheer trill anyway. BJ attacks with
a low blow before the bell. BJ sucks chance. The
low blow before the bell was about the only thing
did BJ did. Actually it's not true. Did he did
a couple other things right, But for most of the

(41:40):
match he moves in slow motion. It's like like people
forget the doint could actually work. But I think the
way people remember Doink is that it's like me dressed
up as an evil clown, like being a plux, like
fifty six years old, and can barely move. BJ works
like that. He's he's terrible. He's in slow motion and
he's clumsy and klutz. He's in the wrong places. And

(42:01):
I have a question for you, and that is, do
you know why the Undertaker said he is heat with me?
Just like right from jump. I don't disagree, I just
want to know why. No.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
I thought you could explain it to me from season one,
but aparently you did. Nothing happened or something happened but
we didn't. We don't know.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
I'll shake your hand the day you earned the right
to shake my hand. Bro is not that deep dog?

Speaker 8 (42:29):
You know? When I first got here to this LFG
or whatever's going on in this place, reached out to
Bubba to shake his hand, I felt completely disrespected. So Bubba,
here's the reality. I'm not gonna sit here like one
of these little soy boys with my tail tucked between
my legs. Nah, Brian about that, I'm about showing respect.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
That was really good, sir, Well, I like le okay
as if you had like some kind of legit issue
with me.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
See, not only am I successful professional wrestler, professional psychologist,
and poker player.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Look at your almost like high horse, I'm in two
Hall of fames that I have more championships and you
have shower time.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
I'm you think.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
Is going to work for you you're doing, so maybe
you want to think about the attitude moving forward.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
During this show, it.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Chew on it really good.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Anyone else No, wait a minute, hold on, Bud, wait
come back, you're back in here.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Well that's to me. They do a lock up, and
the lock up was like a botch the knee and
and everyone goes, what was that? And then it turns
into like a key in that it's like box city
where they're trying like neither one of them like, well,
I'm trying to do like a reverse hold like wrap around,
and like they're completely on the wrong page, and Booker

(43:57):
and Michelle just look dazed and confused.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Hell was that? Yeah? I was like BJ was trying
to put a little bit of heat with some you know,
Trill had some old spots here and there. But then
he Trill goes on the top, goes for a flip.
BJ doesn't catch him, and the structure of the match
was just weird. And here's the question, was there any structure?

(44:25):
Probably no, there was no comeback for the baby face.
There's a way for a heel too, and I think
I mentioned this last week where there's a way for
the heel to beat down the baby face, to get
so much sympathy that at the end the babyface who's
been down, who's you know, was fighting back but was
not giving any big moves, and then like out of

(44:47):
nowhere gets that you know, that pin out of nowhere,
Like last week it was on ur Limb, the kind
of jackammer into the small package one two, it's like,
oh shit, like kind of quick and then the heel
is like pissed or whatever. But here there was not
enough heat put on Trill for me to have any

(45:09):
sympathy for him. It was just kind of yeah, them
not even going back and forth. It was just a mess.
And here's the funny thing too. Drill goes for the finish,
does the famous Jeff Arty sounds on one, two, three,
and bj is up not even fucking selling it back

(45:32):
at working the crowd, and I was like, what the
fuck he's like the match was not set up well,
it was confusing, it had no story within it, and
I was like, well, if you can't be a heel
with Trill, there's something wrong with you. Well guess what.

(45:54):
Guess what, there's something wrong with BJA because what the
fuck was that? And the only thing I really light
and pop was his like kind of shoot wrestling takedown
that looked good. I'm like, why the fuck is he
not working with this? He has so many tools from
his wrestling background. No, it was not using it because
he wants to be cool and he's the guy that

(46:14):
gets the chicks and he's fucking bj Ray. Sexy bj Ray.
The gimmicks not even sexy. I mean, what the fuck.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
That outfit? There's nothing sexy about the way he's himself.
He looks like a dor and like, if it's supposed
to be irony, it's not working. But yeah, I mean,
I'm not sure that the match was set up poorly
because I don't think we saw the match. I mean
we we we saw I mean.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Drill we saw something. I mean they were Davie time.
There was something.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
I mean most of it was. Trill was flying around
and that was pretty good. At some point bj caught
Trill into the spinebuster out of the air. That looked good.
I mean, you know that was fine. Bj was yelling
a lot in the coach going. He talks too loud
in the ring. Yeah, that seems true, especially if you're
not helping to get the match back. On pace, which
he clearly wasn't. Trill did a backflip off the top

(47:11):
turn buckle and miss BJ. And I'm honest, listen, I
want to blame BJ for anything, but I'm honestly not sure.
Was BJ in the wrong spot or did Trill just
completely overshoot? Was his aim wrong because he sort of
went off to BJ's right and it was sort of quick,
So I mean BJ could have gotten into another position,
but he would have had to have done it pretty

(47:32):
quickly for it to be safe. So I don't know
who messed up there, and I don't know if you
know either, but I.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Think BJ was too close to the corner. But did
they talk before and did Tryll tell him like, hey,
you got you have to stand here because I'm gonna flip.
He's not flipping completely on him just to land on
his head, So that's why I saw. He's a little
bit on the side, so he lends more in his
shoulders and kind of rolls with him. But yeah, the

(47:58):
position was was wraw or did Trill overshoot? But definitely,
like like I said, BJ didn't catch him.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Yeah, I mean we see that flip every week where
somebody basically you know, it's supposed to simulate that, you know,
you're landing on someone your back is hitting something, but
really your arm is sort of draping over their head
and neck and you're sort of breaking your patting.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
It's almost like you're sitting on their shoulders. So when
they go back, your ass is not landing on them,
but you're kind of leaning. So when you when you
do it right and boat fall together, it looks good.
And there was just like and.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
What bad just pull a Samoa Joe and you you
walk and pretending you lid on purpose.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
No, yeah, I love the spot. Nope, And we go
backstage and apparently we we hear that there was something
that wasn't planned that happened, and there's like a commotion
and they want to fight, and it's like and I
was trying to go back on the mask. I was
like I didn't see anything wrong. And then yeah, and

(49:08):
and and Bej's like, oh he was like pushing fighting whatever.
It's like, yeah, that's the that's what a babyface has
to do. Like he can't die, like when you work
on him, he has to push fight back, kind of
stay alive, like not getting beat up, like just waiting
for his spot. So and we see even like through

(49:30):
having the conversation with Michelle's like yeah, that's the babyface
thing to do, and like BJ's upset and like, well.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Michelle told him to And this, by the way, dipus
his crime. He threw two punches when BJ was expecting one.
So long if he throws six punches, you're supposed to
roll with.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
You know what, you don't count your fucking punches when
you set up a match, he says, like I'm gonna
punch you. That might have been like one, two or three.
It doesn't like, don't plan your match, saying on to
three matches. I'll put you in the corner and then
I'll whip you. And then if you plan this much,

(50:09):
for sure, you're gonna get confused. It's too much to remember,
and that you don't need. Just just take the freaking
hits and the shots and sell them. And when it's
time for the spot, your partner's gonna say, okay, spinebuster whatever,
Like you don't count hits? What the fuck if you do?
I mean I understand at the beginning, Like just so

(50:34):
you don't lean forward or you move back and there's
a punch coming and then you get punch for real
and then you get injured. Like I get that, but
you should just be able to place yourself in matter
where you're ready to get hit and then you sell
to your next spot or whatever.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
It's not that you're able to adapt and ball with it.
I mean not every single spot is planned. And no,
wait a, he wasn't potato in him b. He isn't
seamless or gunter. He's not kidding. He's not kidding you,
like you know, like he's the Juggernaut or something. He
was doing pulled punches. I mean, he was doing wrestling punches.

(51:17):
So I don't know what this guy is complaining about
two punches. Michelle told him to do it. He's like,
I don't care. You're working with me, not Michelle. Well,
Michelle's the coach.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
And Michelle's the coach, and she wants the babyface to
stay alive in the match, not just stay there and
getting beat up, not trying to get out of it.
It looks ridiculous when people do that. And she told
him to do the right thing as a babyface. So yeah,
I was like, what the fuck you're complaining about? Like
you have to count your hits. I was like, dude,

(51:47):
like you're supposed to stay open, wait for the fucking hits,
sell them, register them, and then go to that spot.
Like when he grabs your hand for a whip or whatever,
you'll know the spot's coming. It's like, oh man, it's
like ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
And you don't get to complain about one extra punch
when you watched the entire match from yeah to the beginning,
I mean, you have no equity in that anyways, says well,
if you ever throw two punches again, I'm gonna beat
the ship out of you. And she was like what
It's like, like, what this is the wrong business for you.

(52:22):
My friend was like, why you waiting? If you want
to beat the ship at may do it now. And
then they did always do something, do something, and they
sort of did, and you know, and then you hear
nope And actually Haarlem was one of the people jumped to
break it up. So you can score some points with
me on that one. And I don't know who the coaches.
I mean, I don't think it's only Lorcin, but it
might be only Lorcin. But whoever is, he's jacked, you know,

(52:46):
he's he basically looks like you know, a young version
of Goldberg.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
But like, you know, I think that's one of the
of the medical staff, like the massage therapist or something,
because only lurkid Like I I know, I've worked with
Biff Busic, and I don't think it's unless he changed
like a lot, I would.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Have known it was him, But no, I think he
would more work. Yeah, I think it's the thing. It's
I say massage therapist, but it could be physiotherapist or
something like he's someone from the piece.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Whatever is jacted. He just goes he just yeah, goes
right in there and stops it.

Speaker 9 (53:24):
But like, what was that whole thing about, Like like, okay,
we know how we're talking earlier that Harlem Lewis is
projecting and projecting is maybe a form of.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Subconscious self destruction without realizing you're so, is this bj
Ray's version of does he know that he's flopping and
he can't admit that he's flopping, So he's doing things
to convince himself that he's the alpha, but he knows
that this is going to get him score him no
points with the judges. It's like either his personal like
they're either going to pick him because people want to

(53:55):
punch him in the face and boo him, you know,
or he's out, so he might as well be his
bad as possible. I know I'm playing psychologists again, but
wrestling is psychology. It ain't none.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
I just there's just one word that can't describe this
for me. It's like denial, denial, denial, Like he can't
see I don't you can't see how bad he is.
Or I don't know if it's a form of protection
that he oh, like he's over confident and inside he's

(54:29):
like that little insecure guy. I don't know if it's
a way to get through life to be so cocky
and yeah, I'm good whatever it was, like, dude, you're not. Yeah.
It's to the point where I'm like, okay, when do
people get eliminated, because like, there's a dude that I
can't stand anymore.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
It has to start. I mean, obviously it's going to
start soon. We're in my week nine and I think
it's only a twelve week serious. I could be wrong
about that, but yeah, it's gonna be soon. All right. Well,
speaking of denial, somebody who's been lost in the desert
or maybe an island in the middle of the Nile
is Chris Island because I have not seen this guy.
I feel like I haven't seen him in six weeks.

(55:10):
He comes out against Drake Moreau, who I know we've
seen recently, but I feel like I haven't seen him
in a while. I feel like I haven't missed him.
Chris is in karate gear again. Okay, I mean, but
he's not working karate. He's working more MMA, so like
Shanti have like more of an MMA outfit.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
But he had a black belt this time, at least
it was not a white belt.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
That He's definitely better as a heel. He was definitely
working the right arm. This is pretty good and at
a certain point it just got boring and Taker and
Book at some point say they went from selling the
easiest thing possible to selling the hardest thing. What they
were talking about is like they were on the outside

(55:56):
and Chris Siland did an Irish whip to Dre Moreau
from like basically where the commentators like the far end
of the where Warash would be sitting in his corner
to the far post. So it's basically like a fifteen
foot run.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
I mean, well, you know when I say a whip
can look bad, if if you don't push, if you're
not close, That's exactly what I'm talking about. You clearly
see the guy running by himself. It looks stupid and
it's it's it's a shame because this match, like to me,
like started like he said, so good. The lock up
was incredible. The only thing I didn't like at the beginning,

(56:33):
like he there was that like the arm bar and
they were going around. It kind of looked a little
bit confusing because usually you try to be to look
more solid and you have the guy really like trying
to go to one rope and then trying to grab
the other one to get out of it, and they
were just like going around, so it was like it
didn't look like someone trying to escape like a hole

(56:55):
like it's it was. It almost looked like a dance.
I was like, eh, that's not cool. But then Drake
got into some very good form his whips chest the chest.
Finally I was like, yes, good whips. Chris's work on
the arm like he was staying on it, he was
using the ropes, he was using the post. He was

(57:16):
applying old. You even have the crowd going tap tap tap,
and you know Drake grabbed him for a power bomb
that he kind of switched into the hell gate kind
of it was not really an lgate, but kind of
looked like it like another old and you know, going
back to the arm, Drake was selling an arm like

(57:36):
even when he had his over, every time he hit it,
it was like grabbing his arm, nothing like Zena out
of nowhere for no reason. Drake was actually selling it.
So all this like was super good. But then yeah,
it went from this to whatever and then choke sim
one two three, which was like ah, I was like

(57:58):
it was a good match. There was a store worry about,
you know, the MMA guy working the one limb to
kind of you know working what he's working his gimmick.
He's an MMA guy. When I see him, you know,
dressed with the karate pants and stuff, I think of
George San Pierre jesp Like he was coming out with
his karate gear and everything. But he still like has

(58:20):
a background in jiu jitsu and he's a very good
you know boxer as well. So he was complete. That's
why he was such a great like you know UFC fighter.
So that could work for Chris if he goes if
he works with that like he should really look at
somebody like George sant Pierre to have some inspiration about
the character. But yeah, like you said, it was like

(58:42):
this master like was good, good, good good, And then
at the end, I was like, huh, what the fuck?
What huh? Like Oh, but I mean overall, I like
the match, I like the story and it made sense.
It made sense. Drake was very solid here. But you
know who was the heel? Who was the face? I
mean because Chris was working the arm a little bit more,

(59:06):
a little bit more, you know, Josh like a little bit.
It's like I feel he's the heel. And with with
Drake selling more and you know, the the bump and
feed and him being intense, I was like, yeah, he's
more of a face. But I felt like there was
no definite characters. They're like they're close, they have something,

(59:29):
but I feel they need to push it more so
we actually we actually understand what's going on, Like like
he's a guy from the Bayu, but there's something missing.
You can't say you're from the by you because you
have like shredded pants and like you come out to
music that sounds like something that comes from New Orleans.

(59:50):
There's there needs to be more. There's there's something there,
there's a gimmick, but push push, you need to push
it because it's like, eh, it's for both both of them.
It's like there's a little bit of it, but it's
far from what it could be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Well, I didn't have any problem with who the face
in the hill was in this match. I think just
Chris is so much smaller than you and you know,
but I thought that was okay. Actually, I think for
the most part, Drake Moreau was mostly fine in this match.
I think if he perform anything was going along with
things that were kind of doofy. I mean, I very
much liked that Drake went for the choke slam the

(01:00:29):
first line, but because his arm strength wasn't there, he
couldn't get it all the way and Chris Island turned
it into an arm bar for a submission effort, and
you know, and then Drake got out of it for
whatever reason. Island, like you said, he was working in
mma grounded style, which I think works from like he
wasn't showing attitude. That's why he didn't feel like he

(01:00:50):
was bland. So if he like acted heally not just
wrestling healely. I mean, there's nothing inherently heally about wrestling
technical style. It's just that it's it's it's a little
bit you know, one dimensional, two dimensional, but like so
a little bit of scowling faces, taunting the crowd. You know,
you're technical in the ring, but you're you're a jerk.
You're like gun to your pompous He wasn't really his

(01:01:12):
body language and his facial expressions weren't there. But the
biggest issue is, instead of just continuing that, at some point,
he decides to go to the top turnbuckle for like
some sort of backflip for a finisher, and of course
Drake Drake Moreau, Drake Maverick, Jake women something Drake Maverick.

Speaker 10 (01:01:27):
Drake Moreau size different sizes, Drake catches him for a
choke slam, and like you said, okay, this time he
get you know, with the I guess the momentum and
the bounce off from the map, he was able to
do the choke slam.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
I'm gonna get a three count. But honestly, I would
have liked to have seen him realized that his arm
wasn't working and caught him with the big boot coming down,
you know, and that would reward, you know, And then
that story is that Chris got over confident because they
thought the guy couldn't use his arms. He couldn't the guy,
you know, or at least I can retrofit the story

(01:02:03):
into that anyway. That that that that's just so it
just struck me as dopey. The pinfall was awkward also,
and that pin Chris was squirming a lot during the
instead just taking the fall, and his shoulders weren't down
for a three count. I mean, it's like it's like
it's like, if this was an important match, this would
have been the thing where later on at the telestrator

(01:02:23):
they show you that his shoulders were up one and two,
like both his right and left fight exactly and like
just on the basis for like, you know, a rematch
or something like that. But there was no reason for that.
So the whole thing felt really mad to me. And
then Bubba and Taker basically say the same thing. They
basically look at each other, go I really want some

(01:02:45):
reason for these guys to be over with me, and
both of them are like, and you know, I look
at them and I'm just like, yeah, Like I once
read a book and I liked the book, but I
didn't like it that much because in there was a
great book and I didn't read a great book. But
there's a great book, like there was a match it
there was a story there. Like both these guys are talented,

(01:03:05):
but I they're not main master talented. They're not NXT talented,
they're not TNA talented. They're they probably need to go
on the indies and and work a whole bunch of things.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
I mean, figure out who they are.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Drake is obviously closer because he doesn't he only needs
to have six moves and he can do the party
guy big, you know, the big fun guy that's you know,
he'll Billy Jim just you know, not as you know,
Goofy Chris. It's something's there. It just he just has
to believe in himself and translated to his face and
his body.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
I think, yeah, I think he needs to watch technical
wrestlers work. I'm thinking like Kurt Ingle technically, like he
he had so much personality being like a shoot Olympic
you know, gold.

Speaker 11 (01:03:53):
Medalist can Shamrock Gunter, Yeah Americano or El Grande Americano
or El Grande Americano.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Which one the one who speaks actual Spanish.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
You mean there's one, which one? It's one person.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Kaiser's yeah, Kaiser has been like shooting promos in Spanish
and he's sober in Mexico. It's crazy. I have life changing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
I think it's just took. It's a trick of light
and different microphones and you're hearing there's there's only one
Elgrande Americano. Clearly, clearly, clearly, yes, Clark, Yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
What That's what Wade Barren says.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
So we'll believe well, well, well, leads. Wade is a
brilliant man and one of the greatest compivaders out there.
So now we get Taker and Danny Sikewski's little session
and basically, I like this, this is this is Undertaker's going.
He's like, be the dog, be the dog, get the
dog out the dog pissed and aggressive. Oh, like I
was listening to like mid nineties, you know, early aughts,

(01:04:53):
like you know, from from the you know, the the
you know the Snoop Dog Doctor Dre you Rappers, Be
the dog, kept the dog.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
It was almost like the Mickey Rocky High of the
Tiger speech, Like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
He's like, I want you to be so aggressive that
I have to tell you to dial it back. I
need to dial back. I need to forget how small
you are. And then you know, Hayes also gets a
session where she tells us I'm still here and I
intend to kick ass, and we get Hayes versus Danny,
and since I spoiled it early, to me, this was
the only good match of the night and I'm gonna

(01:05:28):
let you take it from here.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Well, first of all, I really pop when Ace came out,
is like again. People think I was like, and she's annoying,
she's screaming, she's loud. I love this new character of Ace.
She's a standout heel for me. Danny comes out super babyface,
Like it's clear right from the start who's the heel,

(01:05:50):
who's the face?

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
And then she's hey, she's drunk drunk ass. It's like
the female Sam man, we should just have a drunken
beers the female yells. He yells, beat her trunk ass.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Yeah, beat her dog ass. I was like, it's great,
and I think Bubba goes like, you know what, we
should do a thing where she has to take an
alcohol test before she gets in the ring. I'm like,
oh my god, like this gimmick. Like the ideas are
like endless. There's so many things, like you roll a physician.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Door will not open for her until she takes the
ignition interlocked pasts and blows under her sholder.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Right, that would be great that she has to go
to the mansion. She's cutting a promo when she goes
at her car, Cardon's and I's like, oh goddamn. And
then she has to blow in the thing and she
got that you can.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Never do it today, which is the same. But she
goes out there for her match and she blows like
a point one. Ten days goes no, no no, and
then like forty minute she comes back and she blows
that point seven. They're like, okay, using the sun and
try to swearch driking water and gata ray. You see
her go into the women's room a cup times during it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
Oh oh my god, and like Bone is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
Like, come on, I was ready, I'm cramping up away.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Yeah, I put it's like sleeping in a corner. Yeah,
there's it's like endless things you could do with Danny
that I mean an A's and oh that made me
so happy because they start the match and they go
around and they circle when it ends up. And here's
I'll share a secret. I hate this fucking thing. There's

(01:07:28):
a lot of people that've been they've been doing that
at the performance center, and I've seen it quite often
on the indies lately, where they have their hands like
they're about to go into a boxing match. But it
looks it looks so fake, and I'm like, if you
weren't in the fight, you wouldn't be standing like this

(01:07:50):
like arms in front, like yeah, like a boxer. But
it's it doesn't look as cool because both I fucking
hate it. I was like, and Taker goes like I
circle with their hands up. I don't like it. I
was like, oh my god, take her feels the same way.
Oh God, thank you, thank you Lord, Undertaker. I ate

(01:08:13):
this shit and they're doing it, and I was just
I just wanted to say how happy I was, went Undertaker.
One of my adults like lady Ate.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Too, but he should hate it, especially in this because
he wanted Danny to be a dog, so she should
have come out of, you know, attacking. I get it
for Hayes because a she's a heel and she's sort
of a chicken, even though she wasn't really the Chicken
to Chelsea Heels, she was more like her drunk party
girl before but a little bit more. She sort of
morphed the two characters, which is good, but she doesn't
really want to wrestle. She wants to wrestle dirty, so

(01:08:45):
she's sizing people up. She's the lamm.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Since Danny's the baby face, you don't have her attack
as you could have A's running towards her to attack,
but Danny moves boom and then bam, bam bam starts
fighting like really like aggressively, Like there's that's the way
for the baby face to take over first without being
the one who attacks.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Or do what what they there was Summer did earlier.
You know, Hayes is like, you know, going like she's
gonna go out there, Danny can the ref is sort
of you know, a way to iver ring the bell.
You know, Hayes goes into the into the ropes. Danny's
trying to go after the ref is break up, but
then Hayes comes in and clobbers her and then Danny,
you know, comes you know it's easy to do, but

(01:09:29):
I have to be honest during this match, and I'm
not going to break down. You Branda, but I thought
that Hayes was the one showing the dog. She was
more entorious than Chelsea Green. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Well I'll talk about it more when we get to
the winners, but yeah, for this match, I'm like A's
right from the lock up. She was dirty right away,
she was cheating. Danny's little shine at the beginning was solid.
She was aggressive. A's always cheated to take over the match.
She used the ring, she took time to acknowledge the crowd,

(01:10:03):
and she would get like super mad when Danny was
fighting back, which is like, yes, like everything like a
heel should do, like especially like a little fucking heel
that you're pissed off that and that you want to ate.
It's like you just you just want to punch her
because like everything she does, and she did a great job.

(01:10:25):
Danny did some little hopes here and there with the
fight back, and Danny was always like I mean, A's
was always cutting dirty. Danny had good punches, good forearms
and actually like the whole trading part, like both of
them look really really good. Everything looks strong. There was
not like both of them like A's and Danny, the

(01:10:48):
back and forth with the forearms, everything it looks solid,
look great. The bumping feed was a little awkward from
the A's like some of her bumps were not like
super Cris. But I was like, you know what, she's
a drunk fucking kind of character. I'm okay she falls
like and it's awkward. It adds to the characters, like

(01:11:10):
I'm fine with that, Like it doesn't need to be pretty.
And here's one thing that they kept doing and I
don't know why they do that, and I fucking hate it.
They will pull their opponent by the arm and for
Irish whip and they will kind of stump the match
with boat feet and it looks it looks bad, it

(01:11:35):
looks fake. It looks they actually look really small doing
that instead of grabbing and pushing and pushing in the rope,
pushing you know, the back into the ropes. So there's
that bounce. It's just like pulling the arm with that stump.
It's like, if you want, if you want me to

(01:11:56):
forget about your size, don't do it because because now
the little pomp you do with your feet tells me
you're one hundred pounds. It doesn't look good. I don't
know why they do that. It is like and they're
not the first ones that I see doing that for
the girls, and I was like, ah fuck. I was like, eh.

(01:12:18):
One part that was like when we're going into the
home spot at the end, there's a corner flip into
the dropped a hole, but I think Ace ran a
little bit too slow, so it didn't look really super good.
And then again they went for that freaking whip where
they pull and stump, and then they went into the

(01:12:41):
DDT one two three, and it was like that whip
was not necessary, it had no it shouldn't be there.
The thing to do was to have Danny do the flip.
Ace comes in running drop to a hole, seals her face,
sells around, and you know, comes into Danny boom for

(01:13:05):
the DDD right away one two three. She didn't need to.
I don't know why. When she took the drop to
a hole she turned around into a whip kind of
into a DDT. No, she should have like sell the
the drop to a hole, sell her face good, like

(01:13:27):
she really hit the map, and then turn around into
the DDT right away. So it's like two shots right
on the face, right on the head, back to back,
and that's why she spinn so that was the only
thing at the end. I was like, ah, but you know,
I think it was a very very like very good
match until the go home spots, where I just yeah,

(01:13:49):
I thought like it was too much and those pull whips, Yeah,
my god, it looks bad. Like remove that it's fucking great.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
So Danny was an NFL cheerleader. She's obviously very agile,
she's very athletic, she's strong, she has terrific footwork. She's
also very small. I think that she's talented enough and
athletic enough and precise enough that she could do I mean,
you know how sometimes you would see like Ray Phoenix,
they do like he do like eight different moves just

(01:14:22):
to do an arm drag, and I would always laugh
if you doing an eight point iron drag.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
But I think that this Mexican wrestling exam drags like.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
I think that she could do something where she does
a rather simple move. I mean, you know how Jacob
Fatoo and Trinity and Naomi and Tiffany Stratton basically they
just do a moon salt, but they it's interesting how
they get to the moon salt. I think that Danny
could do something where she hops and bomps around to
a top turnbuckle or to the top rope and just
does a bulldog from it, or one of those moves

(01:14:53):
where you you jump from behind you you have your
hand on their head and your knees on their back.
En it's like you're driving their face into the map
and that way, even if you are only eighty five pounds,
it's still gonna hurt the person.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Like a blockbuster or something.

Speaker 8 (01:15:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
Yeah, so I think she needs a different finisher. I
agree that the paradigm or you know Drew McIntyres and
and John Moxley's you know DDT that doesn't work for
you know the girl who you know, weighs the same
as my leg. That's the one thing I saw, and
I don't know what happened, is apparently at some point

(01:15:27):
Hayes was supposed to dump Danny out of the ring.
I guess they sort of missed each other and and
Danny basically tossed herself out of the ring. The Dodges said, So,
I mean, is that something where it was someone's fault?
Should is that the right thing? Like the spot was missed?
But that's the match. You go out of the ring anyway,
and you just go from there. We see that happen
all the time. Someone misses it, but you know, someone

(01:15:50):
misses the kick by you know, six inches, but you
still sell it. And then Corey Gray says, well, I
don't think they got all of it, you know, I mean,
it was not the wrong thing. You know, who fault
was it?

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
You know it was It's really hard to say whose
fault was it not knowing what the actual spot was
or what they were going for, or was there supposed
to be a whip reversed or I don't know something
I don't know. Somebody misses something and the other one
shit cans themselves, like I don't know what it was,

(01:16:24):
So it's really hard to tell. It didn't bother me
that much because it felt to me like Ace just
kind of move out of the way, and so Danny
kind of shit can herself. So it didn't bother me
as like it didn't affect the match in a way
where it didn't affect the match away like the BJ

(01:16:44):
Wrestling did, Like it was something minor that yeah, fans
probably do not care about.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
I just didn't say anything. I don't yeah, no, because
that happens all the time. That all right, Well, that's
that's fine. I'm glad you agree with that. I mean
one other thing, Danny did it like a shoulder tackle.
It was really weak shovel tackle. Other than that, I
mean the finisher was underwhelming. But MAT's with My only
comment with the matches. My question was where's Danny's dog?
Because I see Hayes's rent dog out there. I see

(01:17:13):
that drunk pit ball out there. Wan. It's like a
three legged pitball and it wants to fight every other
dog in the yard. Danny was fine. Danny was Danny.
She was good.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Here's the thing with Danny. She has the moves are aggressive,
but she forgot to tell her face. There's no sound
coming out of her mouth. There's no like really mean face.
Like it's it's like she's not selling her own moves,
Like there has to be some life into what you do.

(01:17:45):
Your your hits might look like a million dollars and
they're like super aggressive, they're clean, like they actually make
a sound like everything is there, but it's like you yourself,
you're not going like or like something that tells me
that you're pissed. You're into the smash, like the face

(01:18:07):
needs to sell whatever selling is not. It's not just
about you know, showing pain when somebody's doing a move
to you. It's also selling what you're doing. You need
to tell people like here, I'm aggressive, I'm I'm pissed,
I'm you gotta show it in the face. Everything happens

(01:18:30):
like in the face. The face has to it's really
the it's what paint the picture. It tells people your emotions.
And if you're not selling your own moves, and that's
where I think she's lacking. You know, like you said,
A's like kept screaming and you know, like ah, making

(01:18:51):
those freaking faces and stuff. So it was like that
that's why honestly, like we we get to the judge
and they actually they actually start with the women and
they're like, here was my choice. I was like, tonight
my winner was A's because she made Danny look good.

(01:19:14):
She was such a great heel and everything she did.
There might have been some like missteps a little bit,
like I said, like questionable bumps and you know, little things,
but she did such a great job at making the
baby face look good that to me, she was the

(01:19:36):
only choice. And of course, like they picked Danny, which
is not a bad choice. But without A's this match
doesn't work the way it did. So I was like,
I was kind of disappointed for her because to me,
she was the winner.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Yeah, I mean there was only one loser, Tatiana. I
think Summer did her job. I think Danny did her well.
Actually that's not true. First of all, I agree with you.
I was dumbfound that this was not for votes for Hayes.
I mean, yeah, you know, unless Danny just doesn't have
a point and they want to get her a point
to make it make sure she makes it to the
at least the semi finals, you know, for whatever reason

(01:20:15):
or reasons. And I'm okay with that. But Hayes to me,
was the clear winner. Danny was fine, she was was fine,
but she I said before she got the job done
that I com myself. She didn't. Her job was to
show the dog leaddle levial, and she didn't. She she
was just Danny again, and Danny's good. But her job
was to do was to be Hey, Hayes showed me
a dog, I mean yeah, And Summer did her job.

(01:20:37):
Tatiana was was terrible, I mean, you know, and yes,
she had Russ to whatever skill level she had achieved.
Before her undisclosed mysterious injury, which is as far as
I'm concerned, And I was probably like her feelings were hurt.
I don't know, but yeah, I felt the same as you.
And then we get to the males and for you know,
it was a straight flush. Everyone voted for Trill and

(01:20:59):
you know what, the only know the person who maybe
had a case was Drake, but.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
He was right, Yeah he was. Drake was my choice
because you know, every little thing he did look good,
the whips, the hits, his selling kept on selling, like
the store of the match with his arm. He was
vocally like so, but I mean I understand Trull was,

(01:21:23):
you know overall like, let's forget about BJ Like he
was a good babyface. He worked the crowd, he sold,
but the thing is he didn't have much to sell
because this match was so like eh. So I was like, Okay,
I get that they finally give him a point because
he is a good babyface and there's other episodes where

(01:21:46):
I feel he should have won but did not. So
I was like, yeah, maybe they're trying to, you know,
make things right because he is a great baby face.
Then you should have a point somewhere. But I don't
feel today was the day. To me, Drake was the
best men of this episode.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Obviously I can see it, but I actually I actually
agree with Trill. I mean, not only did he do
his job and look good, but he actually overcame Bje
maybe for that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
This win.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
As uninteresting as Chris was, He's not bad, it is,
you know. I mean, he's a rookie. He needs work,
but it's not like working with him is a detriment,
or at least that I can see. So, I mean,
Trill overcame a lot, and I don't know you, So
I was okay with that, which is fine. We have
a minor disagreement of degree here, if at all. So

(01:22:41):
Michelle still leads the field with six points, Taken behind
her with five, Brooker three, and Bubba fallen behind there
with two. Now we haven't really taken note of the
points for the contestants, but probably matters now because we're
getting to the point where there's going to be eliminations.
Nina has four points already. She's all righty going to
make it to whatever the semi finals are. I mean,

(01:23:02):
she's already got enough points unless she gets hurt again.
No mention of with the injury to Elijah, if we're
getting another contestant. I don't remember when in the season
lej got hurt last year that they needed to do
a replacement. They didn't do a replacement for Tatiana. Maybe
they knew she was never really injured. I don't know,
but you know, but we have to we have to

(01:23:24):
start watching this. So the rest of the points are
spread around the women. There's about four of them that
have two points in the rest of one. Shiloh and
Elijah are tied in the league for the men with
two each, but Elijah is now essentially eliminated. He sees
on the shelf, so all the other men have one
point everyone else. I don't know how the math works

(01:23:44):
out with that, but that's the way it happens. Well,
I guess Panina's four points. Then maybe two of the
women have two points and one of them is one,
or maybe maybe not. I don't know, but four points
for Panina was the struck ut. Trill was very pleased
with himself. He was happy. He's like, I'm gonna go
home and not a good time.

Speaker 5 (01:24:01):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
I had lou your thoughts. Hayes was my winner, but
we already talked about that. Now I'm like, I'm married
to my thing, Danny. We we we sort of phase
out with Danny being the last person in the gym.
You know, Harley might have been in the parking lot
being angry at the interview people in the cameraman and
the security guarden and lights, but Danny was in there
working the heavy bag. And Danny realizes that she's a

(01:24:23):
tough bitch. And listen, I'm not saying she's not. We
sing the praises of Danny every single week. In fact,
I said that to Danny, said it were an ex
and she liked it. She saw as a Matterick. I'm
sure for the same reason I'm sure earlier that we
are actually Danny Sikeowski Summer Sorell and Hayes Jameson's favorite podcast.
I'm pretty sure we're b j Rey's favorite podcast now.
But I agree that she's a tough bitch, but not

(01:24:46):
the tough bitch that undertaker wanted to show us. This
is gonna date myself, but he wanted us to see
Mick Belker from Hill Street Blues or Gary Howitt from
the like nineteen seventies New York Islanders. He wants to see. Basically,
he wanted to see something a little bit more constrained
than then the Rajah Jackson this this weekend and she,

(01:25:08):
oh my god, so okay, she she now believes that
she's tough and good. Good for like her. I think
she's got a whole lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
You know what Danny understands, like dear corrushion takers talking
about and you know, hitting the heavy bag and whatnot.
She she gets that part. But here's here's what I
wrote down. Yes, you understand that part, but you still
need to sell it and tell it to your face.

(01:25:40):
That's it. The movement is there, the selling and making
me believe that you are that bitch is not make
me believe that you are that bitch, because right now
it's like, okay, good hits whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
But it's like, you know what they mean when they
say tell the story in the ring, I mean, that's ther.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Tell us story with your her face, and that's what
she's not so far.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Yeah, so keep keep the hair out of the face,
keep your arms off of their face unless the claw.
But yep. So next week they showed us a little
bit of what was going on, and it just looked
like there's supposed to be a lot of chaos next week.
Uh huh, So okay.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Yeah, what's up with Zena? And we're gonna see at
more about you know, Charlotte and r Limb like they
it looks like they went into a shoe. So we'll see.
We'll see how that goes. Because last time there was
a shoot, suddenly it was okay, So everybody's cool. Everybody's cool,
and that was the end of it. We'll see how
this goes for this one. And for this episode, I

(01:26:41):
just want to end on what Danny said at the end.
She's like, I gotta bring the little evil in me,
so big evil, little evil that that's kind of cool
with her coat taker.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
Let's say it because you know again, let's see it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
Yeah, I want to. I hear it, I feel it
with the with the hits and stuff, but I don't
believe it because I don't see it on your face.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
You know who I would That's what I'm looking for,
you know who I would love for her the consult with.
And they won't because he works for a different company.
But he's up there, you know, not too far from you.
Jimmy Jacobs, small guy work like the devil Ah. Yeah,
where you little evil. There's a guy right there, Jimmy Jacobs.
Very smart guy. By the way, he was one of
the guests on Book of Black, which is also don

(01:27:32):
just does a name change Gospel of Thomas, so you
can hit it. Jimmy Jacobs talking about esoteric stuff with
me and p J Black on That's so Cheap plug.
Speaking of cheap plugs, Thefisto tell every where they can
find you, and then all about your wrestling promotion, all
the great and exciting things that is doing.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Yes, you can find me on ex at the Fisto Instagram,
although there's I would say right now, there's more picture
about cats than anything. This week I posted a picture
of me and Ray Rugo that I saw this wee
get a TV taping thing. But besides that, it's been
kind of like but it's the fits about arts and
wrestling Facebook dot Com slast lofist though you can follow

(01:28:11):
also the Women's Wrestling Syndicate on Facebook. On x it's
WWS in like ww Syndicate altogether and but you know,
subscribe like your stuff on YouTube. We got videos of
all kinds, like all the archives that I collected throughout

(01:28:31):
the years of wrestling in Quebec and more. I put
everything there, enter on shows for free.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
That's great, all right, Well let's see. My shows are
called Garden of Thought. They come in three varieties, but
you only have to subscribe to a Gardener Thought and
you'll get them all. They're all free. There's no Patreon,
there's no nothing. You can find them right here on
the Wrestling Soup Network. They might be going on the
Wrestling Soup YouTube channel. I mean, I'm not sure when

(01:28:59):
that's gonna happen. I think it's a when, not an
if you know you. It's not video, it's audio, just
like everything else. It's on the on the Soup channel,
though I do have most of the videos if they
want them anyway. Three varieties, two sort of like Joe
Rogan without the brons, without the conspiracy, without the celebrity,
without the success, but same kind of variety. And of
course the show I do with mister Thomas, we talked

(01:29:21):
to people in wrestling, oftentimes not about wrestling, or at
least it's not entirely devoted to wrestling. Then. Actually, Thomas
is away this this month, taking fabulous trips to South
America and Miami and can Kun and this, that and
the other thing. So Vinnie Pacifico was a guest co
host and we had Zeke the Freak on and then
Carol Kwan was a guest co host and we had

(01:29:43):
the Victorious BRG Brett Ryan Goslin. That show dropped earlier
this week, and Kuan's working on some things. I'm working
on some things. Big trouble. Ben Bishop has agreed to
be a guest co host because he's already been a guest,
but I need to find a guest an unsuccess on that.
So listen, if you're a wrestler out there and you're
willing to be a guest, do me a solid. Ben's

(01:30:04):
a cool guy, He's fun. He's killing the internet right
now doing his shindy stuff. And of course I still
do a dose of Chocolate the last few weeks. It
hasn't quite made it to the Wrestling super and Friendos feed.
Maybe on the Wrestling Soup YouTube channel one day, but
I don't care.

Speaker 8 (01:30:17):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
I do them live basically right after Soup goes off
the air, I take over the stage and do a
dose of Chocolate and I review the Evolve show. The
last two or three weeks it's been solo. And you
know what's good about it being solo? They're quick. They're
basically thirty or forty minutes tops. But if someone that's
quick for Jeff, it's good. It's good for everybody. So yeah, listen,
I don't know what else in the world there is

(01:30:39):
to talk about with me. You can follow me on
the x AT Dose Underscore Evil. I call myself Evil Dose,
but apparently I'm Dose Evil. I don't even I'm confused.
I you know, I'm like Tatiana. I I got lost
early on and never got my way. So until next week?
What are we gonna do? Fista?

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
Next week it's gonna be episode ten the tame.

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
What's gonna happen? A shoot? That will be a shoot?
Or will Xena find her way? Or wrestling her low rolls?
And what's gonna happen would be j another another memorable match,
I believe? Oh lord, how until next week? This has

(01:31:24):
been boy Them Fried Them put him in his steam?
Who do you do?

Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
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