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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tonight on LFG.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
All the damn work.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
I'll put it in with you, Blue Fistle.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
What can you do with this person who's new? So
they look good, you look good, and everybody's safe as well.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Put him on a black leather John died in a
black eye. Jeff Lippman.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
It looked like she was too slow for school, but
she came out playing the hot mean girl.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Look bullet and Frida and put him in his stew
boyd them Friday and put him in this jew bulled
them Frida and put him in this tew leg Season two,
episode twelve.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
All females teammates are facing each other and it's up
to the legends. We are in the playoffs, baby, time
to fight each other. And yeah some of the some
of the stuff was too much for me, and some
of it was like eh, and some some sad I guess.
(00:55):
And well, my name is Offisto and as always I'm
with the wonderful Jeff Lipman. How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I'm good? How are you? It feels like just yesterday
we were doing a podcast together.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Oh no, I don't think I still want the monito.
Somebody wants to make send me again.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
There you go, see Listen.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I know a lot of wrestlers who get gifts from people,
So listen, she wants a demondo. That's that really isn't
that hard to add? It really isn't that hard to.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Ask please and thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I've seen people ask for much bigger things and again,
much bigger things. So yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Not much when you think about it. It's only a puppet.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And then if you're feeling generous, I wouldn't mind one either.
I'll even taken it, yesca or I was going to say,
I mean I wanted I want the whole team. I
want I want all of the Firefly F one, I
want a whole squad. But yeah, it is LFG Playoffs,
Last Women Standing. So as the word implies, we're only
dealing with the women this week, all eight of them
(01:57):
are in play and as you pointed out, the coaches
and we we talked about this last week. We're like,
I think there's you know, a time when the coaches
actually you know, eject one of their own, and that
was this week and spoiler next week for the men,
same thing. Yes, but yeah, so the coaches will have
to make a decision between their two remaining female contestants.
(02:18):
Everyone's on the board this week, or at least all
the ladies are.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Next week, we have seven dudes including BJ. Well, six
dudes in a BJ. Yeah, seven dudes and yes.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And your seven dudes in a BJ.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah that doesn't sound but that doesn't sound right.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Oh oh yeah, Nope, nope.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
That sounds like a bachelor party story from nineteen eighty
five or something.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
It's the cover of I was going to say a DVD,
but now everything is online. But back then, you know,
like DEBI does Dallas and plucking like It's Hot and
other great movie things.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
The time has made inappropriate and we agree that it's inappropriate.
I hope you all learn your lesson. People don't be
like us.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Why do you know all this stuff because I've worked
in port, not in front of the camera. Yep. Yeah,
well you know, you go, you go to the university
to study multimedia design and graphic design, and oops, you
get hired by a company that does the Yeah, this
risque kind of things and it was good money, but
it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
I mean, how much do you use that I was
young and he of the money A bunch of times.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Okay, we're as much as. I really would like to
know more about this.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
We are going, we are going out of your minx
phase and into LFG as the as, the legend, you know,
critique of wrestling, the expert our analyst, as well as
now now a veteran podcaster.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
No, I wouldn't call myself a veteran podcaster, like I'm
not the Tatiana Dunas of the wrestling Soup. I won't
call myself a veteran after only a few months now,
maybe that I've been more busy doing this and that
people can hear my wonderful French accent.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
No, No. So with the ladies, two things I've noticed,
like they one by one they they say a few things,
you know, about how they feel about this day and
if they think they're gonna make it what they have
to do. So Panina is confident, over confident. She said
it'll be easy. Well you'll see it was pretty easy.
(04:27):
But what I've noticed was AS's ear rings were cigarettes.
So I was like the fuck, Like, okay, I love
Ayes like more and more. I think every week she
is ter, yes, you continue, we'll get to well, I
don't know if there's anything else that you notice just
(04:47):
in the little bits from the beginning, because after we
pretty much go to Team Taker pretty quick, we see him,
you know, sitting down, well, actually no, he's standing up
there against the ring. There's Free and Danny Sikowski and
he's like, make this decision as hard as possible for me.
Bailey has no points, which is you know, something that
(05:09):
he not that he notices, but you know, tells her.
But you know, she she's good at what she does.
She she's good at doing her moves. She she has
her character down. There's a few things here and there,
but overall even she has no points. He see hers
as you know, a good contender and somebody will actually
(05:32):
and I quote him, he's like, I I don't wanna,
I don't want to put too much pressure on you, Bailey,
but I feel that you will redefine the women's division.
That's how much like good he seesoned Bailey in the future.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
He says, Danny think last year when he chose Tomayra,
it may steal over as well. And listen, we all
know he's talking about there's no that's physical like her,
built like her female division. I have seen Moozilla. I mean, look,
you know I've not seen Nicki Blackheart next to other women,
(06:11):
but she might be the closest. But even her, she
I mean, she's like Jay Cargill was a few years
ago before she slimmed down. And I mean, we've seen
women who have phenomenal physiques before Jordan Grace is one,
but we haven't. I mean, Bailey looks, you know, sort
of like transuming in some place. And she's also clearly
not a diva like a lot of the women that
(06:32):
are also you like, even not A Jacks was like
was like a model at some point. And I don't
I mean this in the most inoffensive way, but Bailey
Humphreys is not a model.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
She's not. She doesn't have that.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It's unique in her style and everything. And I mean
that's something really that's that you need in wrestling. You
need to stand out any way you can, and she does.
For Danny, she take hers tells her that she has
to raise the bars that you know she's and he
actually asked her, why why would I choose you? And
(07:06):
she said, like, I've been good at doing things that
I was uncomfortable with, like being a loucha door, being
a heel, being a face. She's definitely sees herself at
the top dog, but she feels she's overlooked, not by
the Undertaker, but by the other coaches. And Taker actually
says like he sees Danny as polished and beyond her
(07:28):
time there at LFGN at the PC. So he's got
a great task ahead of him. And we go right
away into the match. Anything you want to say about
the little meeting with take her before we get into
the match.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, he had some good lines, Like you know, Undertaker
has a really interesting way of throwing something in your
face without sounding like he's throwing it in your face.
But he you know, when he was talking to the
camera and I'll go call the candidate, he's saying, you know,
sometimes pressure busts a boaster balloon, but sometimes it creates diamonds.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
I have to say that I am thoroughly impressed with
both of you and the work that we've done this season.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I want you guys.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
To make the decision that I'm going to have to
make later, one of the most difficult that I've ever
had to make.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
You know, sometimes pressure busts the balloon. Other times pressure
makes diamonds.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
And I was struck back by what Bailey said, She said,
I don't need points to be validated. There's nobody else
that looks like me, and there is anything like me,
and I don't know. I had a question for you,
and that is, did Bailey seem a cocky two be
self destructive? Sort of like she was like sort of
laying like the prosecution's case against her or see, pretending.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
To believe that her look and orr was enough while
really she.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Knew that she hadn't really performed that great season three?
So which of you know? And of course you're a
co host and I'm gonnas, so the is O there?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
You know, I would I feel it's a little bit
of everything. Keep people keep telling her she has the
unique look. She's you know, she will probably change women's wrestling.
There's nobody else like her. So in a way it
maybe gets into her head and she in a way
it can give her confidence and it can also give
(09:26):
her like cockiness because in a way she feels like
I know I'm good because I'm different, like I'm good whatever,
and she won't put in the work. But also I
mean she it can be like a confidence thing where
she she goes like, you know what, yes, I have
zero points. But I know, like I can bring something
different if I work on it, and she can use
(09:49):
this as a way to motivate herself. So because I
don't think she's I don't see her as a bitch.
I don't see her as somebody who would I would
stay on someone to get like. Doesn't feel to me
like she would be that type of person to squash
somebody to go to the next step. And I feel
(10:10):
she she's a very lovely person.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, so very close with Serena.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
She takes love photos with Danny, which makes it at
least look like they're very close friends as well and
have a lot of fun together. And yeah, yeah, she
seems like a really nice woman. She's a woman, you know.
And I was gonna say girl because I'm an old
man and you know, but yeah, I was just wondering
because you know, it's it's usually a little bit of everything.
(10:40):
But I don't think that she was being self destructive.
But I think that she was sort of lighting I
think she but I think she was putting out there
in case they want to use that against her and
saying I already know. So it's not defensive, isn't the word,
but sort of letting them know, almost like giving permission.
I very much appreciated it, like Undertaker's response when Danny said,
(11:02):
I feel like it's been overlooked, and he's like, what
you think, God, And she's like, no, not by you
the other coaches, And I think that I actually really
enjoyed Undertaker's comments to both women how he thought that
like Danny impresses and overcomes and every challenge he's wit before,
she's succeeded, and she's made everyone look good, and that
you know how great Bailey is and how he does really.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Truly believe all that.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So me, if folks, if you don't watch the show,
I do recommend you just he just has a really
nice way with them. But it's not nice, it's it's being.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Well, he's giving a criticism, but in a constructive way
where he's telling you the truth but without making you
feel like shit. So actually you can work on it.
And I mean that's the way everybody should be trained.
You got to tell them if there's anything wrong, You
got to tell them. Otherwise they will never fix it.
They will think that I'd send the bag everything is good,
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and they won't work on it. You need to know
what's wrong to you know, so you can be better
and step up your game and everything. If the coach
just said, like, oh, you're fantastic of Zena and Bubba,
You're fantastic this, this and depth and actually Bubba is
going to say something real for the first time.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, the last couple of weeks on that, and and.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
You know, you got to say if if it's not perfect,
if it's not bad, if it's not good, I mean,
it's if she want them to get better, they got
to know that it sucks and take her has a
very nice way to say the right things, but in
a way that you're not going to go home and
cry and like, oh my god, I'm such a piece
of shit. I'm worthless.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Like he's a matter of fact, he doesn't over dramatize,
That's what I'm trying to say, but he but he's
also intense at the same time. I mean, it's probably
what made him successful his entire anyway. We you know,
Danny says that she doesn't care that Bailey's big. She
knows she's a monster, but it doesn't matter. And Bailey's like,
I was eliminated early last year. I know that sucks,
and that's not happening again.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
And then we go into the so Danny comes out
there's she's really focused. She's like there's usually she does
that flip. She's like, nope, I'm not doing nick this time.
I'm here. I'm all business.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
And Serena copied her did you see this?
Speaker 6 (13:13):
Her?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
And and you know, see it's I I get it
because it's supposed to be like a serious part whatever,
but it's still wrestling. I was kind of bummed that,
you know, she worked the crowd a little bit, but
the character was very weak to me when she's so
like out there. Usually I understand you try to look
serious whatever, but it's like are you face? Are you heal? Okay?
(13:38):
You to me, you're you look more heal.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
I can't.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah. And the fact that you refuse to do the
flippy things and you're like, okay, you're not giving them
what they want, okay, but it's not it's not like big.
It's not like out there in your face. It's kind
of subtle. And I don't think. I don't think sublettlety
works in wrestling like it needs to be, you know,
bigger than ever, Like I don't know, it's it's my
(14:04):
way of seeing it, I always feel like the first
the person in the first row needs to get it
as well as the one that's sitting back there. So
they got to figure out what's going on. And if
you don't make things big enough for everybody in intendance
to see it, it's you're losing some of them. So
that's that was my critique. With her entrance, Bailey came
(14:25):
out with a jacket. I loved it, very serious, which
fits her. She didn't do the brock thing in the entrance,
but she did it in the ring. Though she's she
she kind of kept the gimmick thing.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Well.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Jacket was almost like an undertaker and.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I was going to say it was really undertaker ish
ministry kind of days.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, I'd a duster, but it was.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
It was sort of like that. And I and I
think that her entry was was on purpose. I think
I think Bailey's entrance was for the fans. I think
Danny's entrance was for the coaches.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
To be honest, yeah, same, same, same, same, And I
mean like Bailey attacks and Danny ducks and she looks scared.
She's selling the fact that, oh my god, there's a
monster in front of me. And I really like that
they worked this because as much as as much as
you always want to look tough and you want to
show people that you're like, oh I can tick on her,
(15:16):
I'm not scared, it doesn't sell a story. And at
least there Danny was telling the story that the difference
in size is so huge that she's she's like, yeah,
she's scared. But at least Danny showed that she was
quicker and she could reverse thing and she was clever,
and I think she did she got and she was
(15:37):
so aggressive, especially in the corner works. You know those
kicks and for Danny, like taker has been looking for
that real that fire and aggressiveness, and it was there finally, finally,
even if she's like one hundred pounds, I believe her
freaking kicks hurt because everything in her face and her
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body was tense. Everything was telling me that the kicks
like they look real. And on the opposite though, when
Bailey turning things around the corner, you could clearly see
that she was scared of hurting Danny. Like the elbows
were a little they were soft, they were slow, And
I also like noticed that Bailey when she's running corner
(16:19):
to corner. She kind of slows down some parts instead
of going like full trottle from one way to another.
So problems with footing here or maybe waiting a little
bit before following the the opponent. When your opponent's smaller,
for sure, they're not going to go to the other
side of the ring as fast as you are. You
(16:40):
have longer legs, so you got to wait a little
bit and then you go. But with her, she was
like kind of slowing down midway, so it was like eh,
and it shown and I like the way that Danny
was using the ropes for to put power in her kicks.
She would use the ropes to go up and down
and slowly going to the finish of this, Like we
(17:01):
had the famous i'll call it like the Humphrey Press,
and it was her best one. Like it looked great.
Danny was like like very straight, like she took it perfectly.
The drop behind was great. And you know, Danny started
where she was working the legs and she was kind
of using her own body to you know, she grabbed
(17:25):
her leg and she kind of swinging on the post,
but she like threw herself down to put more power
behind it. And I thought it was really cool, and
you know, she was screaming at the crowd and she
even stopped to say shut up, So it was clear
from that moment she was definitely the heel. Big props
for using the Brett Hard figure for on the corner outside.
(17:47):
That was really cool and she did it like really well.
And one thing though, they go back inside and she
grabs her legs and take hers like put it on
the right, put it on the right because she had
left one. But then Bubba Mention's like, oh, she's working both,
which makes sense. You want you want to keep the
giant down you That's where it makes sense to work
(18:09):
both legs where it's it's on purpose. It's not you
making a mistake. You're like going from one to another
and it's not just like you just staying there. So
I like that Bubba actually mentioned it. The choke slam
my God, she went so high, got into after a
(18:29):
Hell's Gate, she tried a power bomb, could not power
bomb kick out two in a three quarter, very close,
and then she went for our awesome finish that she
used again. She did not use it last time she
was wrestling, And I was like, yes, this shit looks good.
One two, three, and you know, just just looking at
the match, to me, like my choice was obvious. It
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was Danny Sikowski.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, so before I get into my remarks, which aren't
terribly different, then you're but I'm gonna put a slightly
different spin on it. In the beginning of the match.
Towards the beginning of the match, Undertaker was visibly upset
about certain things, and he said damn it, damn it
a couple times.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
And what was he like? What was he reacting to?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Do you know those elbows in the corner the dobbles
I was talking about where it was too soft. Yeah,
he was like, no, no, come on, Bailey, dammit, damn it.
That's yeah, that's some point.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
It seem like he was reacting negatively to the slaps
that Danny was making to Bailey, and I thought that
was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
So I agree with.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
You that Danny was was working the leg and legs
and putting her full body into it.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
This match.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Okay, folks out there and lou bear with me on
this a little bit, not lengthwise, I hope, but I'm
stretching something that you might find as absurd. So this
to me was a battle of really two naturals. One
who's a natural at the skills and gets all a
professional wrestling but doesn't have the size. The other they're
just physically. I mean, I know that she wasn't born
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that way. She works very hard to be like that,
but the physical it reminded me of a young Rick
Flair or versus a young Leux Luger.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
At that point.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
He wasn't that young a Rick Flair, but you know,
mid thirties, not like mid twenties.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Flair hasn't been that young forever.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
I know.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
The Rick Flair feels like he's big, like he started
at forty and and then all sudden he turned there
for a while.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, right, So this was to me.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I mean, you know, ay, the coaches were all and
I don't know if they were emphasized in this piece
of Danny's remarks earlier, they're all they were all chattering
about how Danny looked so strong and they believed that
how strong. She was definitely working heel the entire time,
and the crowd was chanting for her at some point,
and and like she had a slap Bailey a few times.
Then Bailey got the crowd on her side at the end.
But This is what I mean by Flair and Luger.
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So with Flair, he played the chicken shit heel, but
when he was on top, he was not chicken shit.
He was killing it and he was like, you know,
he knew he had the porseman in the back whatever
he was, you know, then he was cocky. Then he
would go back to chicken chick, then we'd go kokay.
So she was playing chicken ship, but then she was cocky,
and it seemed like Flair and Bailey reminded me, Luger
looks great. Not all of the moves were there, not
(21:13):
all the movement was there, but the things she could
set up were really good. But what this needed to
be was a Flair versus Vader match in w C
where Vader could do all the moves and everything looked
tough and lay it in there and you're right, Bailey
looked like. I didn't pick it up at the time,
but Bailey looked like she was afraid to hurt Danny,
(21:34):
and I still wonder she sort of scarred by hurting Serena.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Serena. Yeah, Serena got choked out and those.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Are her friends, but so so Bailey. It was Flair
young Luger, which is not terrible, but it needed to
be Flair versus Vader. But I thought this was a
great match. I mean I thought this match. On TV,
we learned that Bailey has only been there seven months
and she thought this was her best match. Undertaker thought
it was her best match. Undertalk. Undertaker thought it might
(22:04):
have been Danny's best match, and he thought it might
have been one of the best matches on Ali Tree.
I can't say is wrong. I think I remember one though,
with maybe Anthony Luke and Shiloh that was.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Really really good.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
That was really good as well. But Danny moved on
and and and everybody was crying.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
The coaches seemed to be crying.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Undertakers seemed like he was crying.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Picture was like, why are they crying?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
But he was crying. You're not crying.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
I'm good, I'm crying or I'm not crying. And he
says to Bailey, he goes, this is only the beginning,
and he said, what what you Basically other coaches have
said the same thing about other people. They said they said,
I can't put them out there until they're ready, they're
too talented. Say it's what someone said about a vander
not a Vander Elijah last year, because you have too much.
I cannot rush you out there. I cannot do that.
(22:52):
And to Bailey's credit in the post interview, she said,
I realized that Undertaker is a plan for me, and
he doesn't want to put me out there until I'm ready.
It can't be rich And I thought that that was super.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Mature, exactly like she she understood why, and I mean,
take her. We we just we just talked about it
the way he's really he's blunt but and to the point,
but he says it in a way where you're like, Okay,
this is what I need to work on to get better.
And I know he has my best in trusts, you know,
(23:26):
for me, for me to get somewhere and actually stay there,
not be like a flash on a pan, go out,
have a good match and then fuck up because I
was not ready. So it's I yeah, I love that.
You know. They take her like, explain that, and she understood,
and she's like, she knows that she has stuff to
work on and it's better to you know, go things,
(23:50):
take things one at the time, and then get better, better, better.
So once she's out there, she's a fucking monster. But
in every aspect of wrestling, the character, the selling, the heading,
the wrestling itself, it's so yeah, very mature, and you know,
I wouldn't be surprised that we see her either the
next LFG or I mean, she might just show up
(24:12):
eventually when they feel she's ready on NXD She's yeah,
she's she stands out, so she she belongs on TV.
It's a matter of time. And she seems to have
a great attitude about it, so I don't see her
like losing her minds, like well, what the fuck the boon.
She's probably one of the only girls who didn't say like, oh,
(24:33):
they're overlooking me. She's like, oh no, She's like yeah, So.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
She has a good head on her shoulders.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Like listen, I say this about everyone, but but I
especially mean it with her.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I think did this I.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
First of all, we have no idea when LFG Season
two finished filming, so she's been working the performance center
since then. And you can protect someone in wrestling for
a good three to six months without them actually having
to wrestle, wrestle as a bodyguard heater kind of thing.
And Keana James managing Julia, I think is a great idea.
I don't know that it's really working so much. But
(25:09):
if you put Bailey behind her as the heater, the
thud and she doesn't have to do a whole lot
of work, Oh my god, I think that that would
I think that that would be gold. You know, I
mean I would. You could add her to Chelsea Green's Secret,
but that's already like a joke act. So I mean
it's great, it's brilliant, but it's a joke act.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
This is no.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I would. I would use her maybe with somebody like
really small. I don't know, heal Zelena Vega and she
has like her her big bodyguard behind and that's how
she's so small.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
It's like they're not inst and Zilia.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
No. But it's just to give you an idea of
the look. And like somebody like smaller. But let's say
somebody I can live Morgan maybe, but she has Riquel,
but somebody like that big mouth smaller and she's like
blah blah blah. The bestes this, but she always because
she has like a policy answered mister.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Details. None of those folks were good wrestlers.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Good stuff, and well the following match, it's from Team
Bubba which includes Zena Sterling and Ace Jamison, and Bubba
mentions like, the perception is that Zena is better than Ace. However,
both have one point as absolutely stepped up and during
(26:35):
the whole season she is shining. Every match is getting better.
Her character is you know, it's it's catches attention. You
remember her, you remember the things she does. And for Zena,
who should have won season one according to Bubba, and
she says again that she's not judged properly by the
(26:58):
other I feel she making excuses because I feel like,
even like besides one match where I was like, yes,
I see it, the other matches I was like no,
I was like, there's so much to work on, Like
I get the other coaches, she's not misjudge. It's yeah.
I just feels she was making excuse.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Bubba gave her too much gratification and too much adulation
to her and and this is this is the payoff.
I mean, you're right. Bubba later on asked how she
could be the best and be stale all sudden, and
it's true. Is when I was watching her, I'm like thinking,
this is boring already, and it shouldn't be. She has everything,
but she does. She doesn't feel like she's advanced as wrestled.
(27:40):
What she feels like is she feels like she was
the best performer on Netflix's version of Glow. And you know,
I feel like she's a really good parody of professional
arrestling like Chakara. She would have been, you know, perfect,
and and she's better than that, and she could be.
But I firmly put this this in Bubba's the coach
for two seasons. It's his fault that said I did
(28:04):
like this exchange. Maybe a little bit too little, a
little too late, you know. Yeah, hayzeses like I'm turning heads.
I've overachieved. And by the way, I don't think it's
an accident that everybody tells me that they had the
most fun during with my match, meaning her opponents, the referees,
and the crowd. And right then and I wrote me
meaning me actually in this case equals fun.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
And she is working everybody, the viewer, the people in attendance,
the referee, like she's always busy doing something with you know,
someone of her environment or the person watching.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
She uses every everyone is part of her act. It's
all the Hayes show, and everything is part of it.
And I don't know if she's that good at improv
or or if she plans this out or she's just
got this quick wit or all of the above, but
it's it's like Bobby Heenan esque, except in a diminutive
woman who's I mean, it's fantast She's special. I mean,
(29:04):
she really is special. And I didn't come into the
sink was I came into thinking that she was like,
you know, generic blonde number seventy two, you know, not
even like six, you know, But anyway, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Let you do the match because there's just so much
good stuff in here, and I'm not.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
It's yeah, I mean, right from the start, A's comes
out full character, major heel, yapping and being annoying and
already telling the referee that these sucks and like there
was no interest for Zeno, which I thought was kind
of weird since we're like in the last kind of
stretch here. But anyway, there was a good like the
(29:47):
store of the match, like the cheating heel versus the
good technical babyface. The they worked that perfectly, and I
love that Ace kept blaming the ref for everything, and
whatever she lacked in ability, she makes in personality. Which
I think if Buba mentioned and let's be honest, like
he wrestling is not very graceful, but it works with
(30:11):
her character. I don't mind if her Yeah, I don't
mind if her bumps are like questionable or that she
does like her roles like kind of weird. I was like,
she she's a party girl who stayed up last night.
Like I, it's it's supposed to look kind of weird
and like, yeah, not graceful at all. It's not supposed
(30:32):
to be like super crisp wrestling, So that works for her.
What I love about Zena as as a babyface, she
never dies. She was trying to push, trying to grab something,
trying to get out of whatever, as was was you
know doing. She had great babyface fire and she kept
working the crowd. She even did little shimmy shakes, shake
(30:53):
booty kind of thing as tries to get go for
a pin with her feet on the rope and the
ugh season and she goes, why do you care so much?
Oh my god? So Xena her user tilter World Slam
for the finish, and it was a great match. It
was a great match. I think both girls like did
(31:16):
did their work, you know, fire up, babyface, little cheating.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
Conniving, like I want to punch you fucking heel, And
I mean again, I feel that Zena was good because
the heel that was working her was excellent, which was
what happened with the last match she had where she
stood out because she had a great heel to work with.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
I feel when she has someone who gets it, who
works the heel persona perfectly, then she's she's comfortable and
she's a great baby face because she has that fire
and the selling and the facials and stuff. So we
do you want to talk about the match before we
get to the decision?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Oh my god, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Just Hayes coming in looking basically like she's coming in
drunk and tipsy and sort of off balance.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
She's arguing with the crowd, She's arguing with everyone.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
She starts off with an eye poking and she I'm sorry,
I'll never again.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
She does it later, blaming the rash.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
She goes, it's his fault, and like Michelle is talking,
she goes, he's she's blaming the raff and like they're
all they're all left. Everyone's happening a good time. At
some point, there's a five kun of the rest going.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
One, two, three, four, five, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Six, seven, eight, nine, ten, I mean, I get it.
Speaker 8 (32:34):
It's it's just it.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I said that Hayes, this is this is my kype
words because I and you saw me. I wasn't typing
while you were speaking. Hayes has so much personality and
such a quick wit comma that Zena needed to have
an extraordinary match. Did she question Mark?
Speaker 2 (32:50):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
At some point, Xena does an eye rake and she
puts that into they call neck breaker rude awakening. Not
the most powerful rude awakening.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
But you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
At some point, Zena, for whatever reason, she was selling
her left elbow herdy again, oh life, Yeah good. I
didn't see anything connect with her left elbow ever, So
I you know, so now I'm you know now, I
mean nitpicky on Zena, because like I'm team Hayes at
this point. You know, in a year ago or six
months ago, I was team Zena. She argued about the
foot on the ropes, like you said, why do you
(33:22):
care so much? And then she walked into the filth
the world Slam, just like just like someone who's hungover,
and you know, things that they're going to argue their
way into a victory should and Bubba says, well, I
never thought there'd be a decision, and I will let
you take ticket from here.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
So Bubba goes like, he's like, I have one good
news and one bad and she's like, well that to
Ay's I mean, let's let's be precise here. He's like,
she's like, well, she goes like, well start with the
bad one. He's like, you're going home, and the good
one is I want to go out and have a
(33:59):
shot out to you.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
What's so good about that?
Speaker 9 (34:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
I was like, that's not.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Great consolation price.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah, And I was like, at least if he said
something like you know what, I'm gonna push for you
for season three because you you went from nothing to
being absolutely great at what you do and you need
another opportunity, that would have been a great good news.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
But I imagine that these folks spend a lot of
time with each other. Also, I imagine that they've broken bread,
probably breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and sometimes I imagine that
they've had drinks together. So like, if Bubba said to me,
let's have a child tequila, I'd be like, hell yeah,
I'd be like, divon, get the table. I wish I
would be smart enough to think about to say something
like that, or I go host just get the table
(34:47):
or hosts get the table. But I wouldn't have been
the moment. But I just did announce that's good. But
you know, I'm not with them for like a month
or two months or whatever. Anyway, I'm killing this. It's
not important of advances Zena. I I know why he
did it. I understand, but Hayes deserved to be advanced
in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah, I feel he even told Zena, you know, it's
not the best performance this season. You're stale. You know,
I I push you, I choose you because I know
you know you gotta do go out there and do
what you can do. But here's the thing she did
not all season. She had good matches like and one
(35:26):
of them I can't remember what like was she was
a standout and I think I think, actually it's the
week that she won that point, but today it's it
was all A's. So it was like, yeah, I feel
like I'm beating it a divorse right now with Zena.
But yeah, I don't. I don't think she deserved it. No, no, no, no, no.
(35:48):
The progression of a's in such a short amount of time.
She can work with anybody, can you.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
And we both agree even on her in controversial things
so far, So that's exciting.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Yeah, I mean, can you imagine her versus Panina? Oh
my god? Like that would be great, like but we
won't see it, unfortunately, we won't. Yeah, well one day
maybe well, I mean until the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, or well next season as it would you know,
maybe maybe not even then.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
It might have may have a way for later that
You're right, Well, have a little cry.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I'm not crying.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
You cried.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Speaking of crying, what a great A great segue.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Not crying your cry. That's the miss that's the name
of the title. I'm not crying your crying.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
It's a great segue to go to t michol So
Somercerel and Panina are you know, sitting in front of
Michelle and what's going on? Somercerel has her shoulder in
a sling, and we quickly know that she has a
sprain acy joint and she like, I can power through,
(37:01):
I can go through this, blah blah blah blah blah,
and here I am. The first thing I think is like, yeah,
maybe you could go through one match, but there's more
until the end of this competition and it's not happening.
I mean, it's it wouldn't be the right thing to
do because if you rip apart your your your shoulder
(37:23):
or your hater cuff, which is really hard to recover from,
as like it could be over. So Panina kind of
you know, cut away people.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Even if you're out for nine months, you're going to
get lapped by seventeen people.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Yeah. Yeah, So it kind of went at it and
she kind of cut a promo like all you think
you could do.
Speaker 8 (37:44):
It was like.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
I didn't like it. I thought it was like, it's
not the time, like injuries are real, get just get
the fuck out with the character thing.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I thought that was real. You don't think that that
was fabricated? Do you think?
Speaker 8 (37:57):
No?
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I feel that was put a promo, Like I feel
it was like stage or or I don't know, something
she did for the camera. And I didn't like it. Yeah,
it's not the time, Like it's an injury, it's serious,
it's it's it's not career defining because if she takes
care of it, she'll recover and you know, working for WWE.
(38:21):
She doesn't have to go wrestle the Bayer bills. She
don't take care of her. There's good doctors. They're like,
she has everything to succeed and get through this injury.
But I just felt like, why the fuck, Like she's
kind of being mean to her. It's like, come on,
it's like keep that for keep that for the fucking
next match, and ship on your opponent before. That's fine.
(38:42):
But I don't know if it's something they wanted to
do for to add a little drama, but I felt
like it to me, like she looked like a fucking asshole.
I was like, well, I hope you lose, you bitch.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
So we agree again on both things that are semi
controversial here one. You know, Summer's like, I push through it.
But Michelle did what a coach is supposed to do.
She protected her talent from herself, and she basically.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
She didn't clear her. She's like, I'm I'm calling it, and.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
That's exactly and Summer's doing the right thing. She's saying
I can do it. I can do it, because every
everybody who's gonna be it has to think they can
do it all the time. And if they can't. You know,
the NFL replete with people with concussions and broken legs
and things like that going back into the game. And
this is a new erab and so Panina. You know,
if it was an act, great acting, if it wasn't
an act, and I don't think it was, because she
(39:31):
seemed angry afterwards and before too, and she's like, oh
you want you think you're gonna fight with me. It's
like it's like these are the candids with the coaches. Yes,
you're supposed to articulate for yourself, but you just got
the win by forfeit. I mean, just be like, all right, girl,
I was I would just know I was gonna I
was gonna take it easy on you, but I'm rooting
(39:51):
for you. Get get that shoulder back and we'll run
this back, you know, next time, or or I'll see
you down the line or whatever.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
You know.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
I mean, you could be That's the difference between Shiloh
and and Harlem. To this point. Shiloh can turn it off.
He can turn into a human. He knows, he knows
when when it's not show time or it's a different
kind of show. P Nasty seems to only have one gear.
But yeah, so I agree with you that I thought
P Nancy P Nasty was was being nasty, which I
(40:20):
guess is in her name, but Panina was being nasty
when Panina should have been there and didn't have to
be like ooh supportive, but could have been cool. And
I think Michelle did exactly the right thing. So you know,
I don't know that we need to spend more time
on Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
No, I mean, good good coaching, good call for Michelle.
It's it was the only call to me. So so
that's it. Panina's advancing, there's you know, there's not going
to be a match with and I mean it's yeah,
it was the only decision Michelle could make. The great,
you know, the best change.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, so much French from it.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
French and the last one is team Booker, Patiana Dumas
and Serena Linton and Serena we see you know, she
says like she grown so much from the last season.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
She's completely different. You seem to agree. Booker seems to agree.
I've seen you know, her grow through this season, getting
better with the gear, with the character, everything. So even
even if I didn't see the first season, I see
the progression of Serena through this one, and you know
in twelve episodes and Patiana goes like I'm putting people over.
(41:40):
I'm overlooked, and like, I'm like, she's putting people over.
I was like the matches that I've seen, like again
last week, a five month old of you know, experienced
girl kind of led you through the match because you
were lost again. So I was like, who are you
putting over again? Is it the show? We don't see
(42:01):
the little what you call it the pineapple to her
kind of thing like so I was like, I don't
know where she gets that. And then like she gets
kind of aggressive and even dispensive towards Serena, and she's like,
you kept asking me when you're coming back? Is when
I got injured injury that, by the way, we have
no fucking clue what the injury was because they never
(42:22):
told us.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
By every other injury we know about, this is the
only one that shrouded. It's like the freakin Epstein file.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
What what? What? What is I mean? Why why is
this so secretive?
Speaker 1 (42:32):
I mean, obviously she fucked something up.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
I mean, is she a breaker? Vagina? I know, I'm
asking is it something like is it something so like
personal that's like we can't say something happened to this part.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
I hope it's not that. I hope that.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
I mean what I what I hope happened, which is
which is not much nicer, is that the dipshit twisted
her own ankle because she didn't tie her her wrestling
blue check.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
You know what that could happen, And it's so like
it's so ridiculous that maybe they want to protect that
or I don't know, she took a ship and she
ripped her own asshole to why. I don't know what
the fuck happened, but they won't tell us, so I'll
just assume it's that so okay.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Way to get UFO disclosure before we find out what's
happened to what she did. I am glad that you
react this because like Panina put me in the mood
of like she's.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Being kind of an asshole.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
But I at least had the door open that Panina
was acting like this is ya. Tatiana was like talking
about like and Panina used the word delusional about summer. Well,
Tatiana was delusion. She's like I make other people look good.
I'm tired of being overlooked. I'm gonna be seen. She
she missed like four weeks to the injury, and then
like I mean, and then she made up and I
(43:43):
fully believe she made it this whole story about conversation
that Serena was waiting for it to come back. When
you're coming back, when you come back, so I don't
have to compete anyway, so I can say this, like.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
What the hell's you know?
Speaker 9 (43:53):
We've seen Serena eBrace everything we've seen, We've seen our
hard work, So you're trying to throw her under the
bus when we've seen the evidence when you were the
one who wasn't around. It's and like Serena's.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Just like the hell are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (44:05):
And she's like she's like laughing it off because it's
so stupidly absurd. And I love that company, and this
is gonna come off wrong, but it's not wrong. Everyone
knows my wife's Latina. Obviously, I've got a week spot
for Latina's.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
I am not.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Attracted to Serena at all. I do not find her
attractive and I just said that she was and she's
still awesome, which that shouldn't matter, but it does. It's
TV or it matters to me because I'm a fifteen
year old boy at heart, and and and she was
just so like, okay, honey, you need to chill. That's
that shit. And Booker's like he's not having any of it.
(44:38):
He's just like, Okay, that's it.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
I hope I see all this energy in the ring.
Speaker 8 (44:45):
That's that's That's all we did learn is that the big,
the big stipulation is that Booker was going to raise
the hand of the person advance's live which was not
live for us the viewers, but live in front of
like the LFG stupid of the NXC audience, which I mean,
we all assume that was going to be.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
The case, but that is is what it what it was.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
But yeah, I thought I thought the tonic. I thought
Tatiana was so full of shit. And I've been predisposed
to not liking her and not being interested in her.
I think last year, she or last week or two
weeks because she had a pretty good showing, so I
like to think I'm fair, but like I put her
right back into my outhouse after that performance with Booker.
It seems like maybe you agree, But did did did
(45:28):
did the match change her mind?
Speaker 3 (45:29):
In this match, like, I'll go through the whole thing,
and because.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
Let's go through the normal cadence.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Yeah, I'll go through it because yeah it's to me,
it was like, okay, where was that Tatiana the whole
fucking season. That's That's pretty much what I thought after
this match. So Serena comes out great, looks, she has
a presence. You know, she's going to be a star,
like if she keeps going this way and it's always
(45:56):
like forward for like she she doesn't take any steps back,
act like it's always like moving forward and it's getting better.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
People on the top of a turn buckle.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Yeah she did, No, she did.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
She always does. Yeah, I said people love people love that.
Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yeah yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Because I don't find her attractive doesn't mean she's not attractive.
It just means that Jeff has this just there's something
that doesn't work for Jeff, which is okay, because just
married anyway. So yeah, anyone who wasn't and isn't good
of that, that that's not you know, part of the
(46:34):
future anyway, so or pasted or you.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Know, or present. So I mean, I'm not solusional either.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
So Tatiana came out full babyface finally, smiling. I was like,
where the fuck was that? This? This looks like a
babyface now because she still has the gear that could
be with more English, but the face and the demeanor
everything she has. I was finally fucking smile baby face.
I was like, oh, too little, too late. But you know,
(47:04):
there was a great.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
Lock up before that, though.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
I need to ask you honestly, when Tatiana come out,
did you hear a giant fan reaction?
Speaker 2 (47:13):
No? Me either.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
When now did the fans react? Yes, yes they did.
And remember Tatia said that people always react me and
last match they clearly fabric he said, I think they
manufactured that or piped it in. They absolutely did. She
never got to reaction. I know, it's not my imagination.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Oh maybe it's like seth rollins in her hay asa. Okay,
So there was a great lock up. You know, Dumas
was showing power and you know she would do things
like reversing stuff like to upset the heels, showing like
she she had the technical knowledge that maybe Serena didn't have.
(47:53):
And I like that Serena as a heel, you know,
the heel should always kick or pun first. The first
hit should always be from the heel the babyface more
of a technical and that's exactly what they did, you know,
arm bars and reverses until Serena got you know, sick
of it. First hit kick. I liked that she used
the hair and the guillotine on to start a heat
(48:17):
as she was outside and pulled Dumas by her hair
pull guillotine on the rope, and I love that. You know,
when they were in a submission, they were moving towards
and or turning towards the hard cams on Old. I
was like, finally, somebody's working the fucking hardcam. That's great.
Like little things, there was nice little hope spots with
the pins that were being cut off. Again, Serena was
(48:40):
healing on the crowd and on the baby face, so
she was screaming stuff at the crowd but also to Tatiana,
which you know made the match super interesting. Finally there
was like great fire from Tatiana. I liked that they
worked the body slam. The expression of Tatiana on it
was great, and the opponent kicking out and it's like,
(49:02):
to me, that was her best showing. And out of nowhere,
Serena goes for a four to fifty roll through into
a DDT. I was like, oh cool, she can do that.
That's pretty cool. And once again, the finish was out
of nowhere, like it's it's like nothing was work to
get through the finish. It was like a go home
okay and right away finish. It's like, I guess it's
(49:25):
the way it works. I don't know, it's in front
of a crowd. Maybe they have a set time. I
don't know how to get must do.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
They must do it on Tuesdays and they must they must,
they must need them mouth that they need to practice and.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Nexty starting like get the fuck outs, like they have
to do it before you know possibility. But definitely it
was the best match I've seen from Dumas. It was
like almost watching another wrestler. And she didn't seem lost.
She she wasn't the right place at the right time.
I was like, where were you all fucking season? Because
(49:59):
it's like, yeah, so that's it, and anything else you
want to mention about the match.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
Itself, Yeah, I mean I do agree that she act
angry and aggressive right from get go in the ring,
which is good, which was positive. I mean, even though
she was the face and they definitely came and like
Serena definitely copied Danny's entrance, or they copied each other,
or they came in, you know, ignoring the fans and like,
you know, why aren't you cheering me? I forget you
(50:26):
kind of thing. This was Tatiana's best showing that I
can remember. This was her best match I can remember,
and she did get fans support during the course of
the match when it was clear that she was the
face and Serena was supposed to be the heel. Because
I don't know that the fans were savvy are paying
as much attention for what they've been sitting through, but
they probably used to the other or thinking the other.
(50:47):
But I will say because I have to be a
little nitpicky because Tatiana is in my out house. I mean,
you know, most of the time she is. It was
mostly in the beginning match. I got better at the end,
but there was a point where Tatiana was on top
of Serena and Serena was like trying to do defense
like elbows to the face, and Tatiana was like half
a second late in selling for it, like two or
three times in a row, and then Serena did a
(51:10):
kick to the gut and Tatiana like she remembered she
was supposed to fall down and go oh, and then
she overacted. It's like she was like a half a
step behind the whole time. But yeah, the wind came
out of nowhere. We've seen that before. Clearly they're on
a hard time limit and the rep must say, okay,
wrap it up. At the end, Serena, she licked Tatiana
(51:31):
on the cheek, definitely, very a little weird. That was
sort of I don't know where. I don't know where
that came from. I don't know that that she needs
to incorporate that into her act.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Going forward, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (51:45):
I less said about that the better, But I have
to believe that that she has at least some kind
of positive relationship with Tatiana.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
To lick her face, yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
With with without taking that as a liberty, without doing
it by surprise.
Speaker 3 (51:58):
I don't do that if you don't have the okay
from the other person.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
And Tatanna continued to sell even as Booker was coming
into the ring, so you know, no one told her, hey,
match over, which is again that's good. The shows that
the audience is still there. Keep selling the injury that
that's exactly right so or that you're hurt. So yeah,
this was Tatiana's best showing little too little, little too late.
But I guess not because they've they put her on
(52:24):
live shows or a live show beyond that one time.
I'm not sure if it's happened again. I haven't bothered
to look, but these things will be revealed because there
aren't that many of us that are follow the NXT
you know, Single A and Double A, you know tour.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
So you know, Booker goes in the ring. It was
like I felt it was kind of rush, like you
didn't see him think or you didn't see him him
maybe like he knew right away because he's been saying
for weeks that he was seeing Serena when other people
were you know, were not and she has been constant
in a progression better and better every week, and she's
(53:05):
right on the money. That's what he said about her. So,
I mean he went in the ring and while the
other girl was still down, which was kind of weird.
I mean, you kind of I don't know, I felt
like he might want to keep a little suspense or not,
and he just grabbed Serena's and lifted up and that
was it. So we do have the four could we
(53:27):
say their finalists now or yeah, so se semifinals. So
there's Danny Suskowski, Xena Sterling, Panina to Olipa, and Serena Linton.
So basically we have one baby face in three eels
pretty much, or well they changed them. Well, yeah, they
(53:48):
changed them. They changed them, but I mean, naturally that's
how I see them.
Speaker 1 (53:54):
Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
I agree with that. Yeah, it seemed a little abrupt.
Speaker 1 (53:58):
There wasn't much drama Booker say anything. I don't know
if they told him that the ass dubious time is
up or that was always the plan. Maybe he had
had enough of Tatiana's nonsense and didn't want to talk
to her or hear her.
Speaker 3 (54:10):
Yeah, I mean, I know, I'm almost thinking he made
his decision and he spoke to them before the match,
like the way she was like, hey, when you're coming back,
He's like, I forget that, I'm not dealing with that shit.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
And at the end, you know, I guess he learned
from his HR training since he said that's popped my
dick on on national.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
TV when he said that at an XT last week
or maybe, but.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
He said time off is your enemy, and Tatiana missed
time and basically he credited her not advancing because she
was you know, injured in one week and you know
was gone for three or four weeks or however many
episodes it was until we finally saw her back. So
that was it. Give a perfectly good objective reason for it,
(54:56):
which is, you know, generally what you need as an
employer and employment law. Although I agree with this decision
on merit that Serena was the better competitor and deserved
to advance over Tatiana, it would have been interesting if
it was Serena versus Zena or something like that, or
Serena versus Bailey to see how that would have worked out.
But they're not on the same team. And that's the chips.
(55:16):
That's how this is structured. That this was intra team wars,
and then it will go back to I guess team
against team or whatever they whatever the structure is. But
next week it's the guys. And they didn't give us
very much in the preview for next week. So yeah,
we saw some you know, harsh words or fair words actually,
(55:39):
but nothing that we won't cover again next week unless
there's something that struck you that we must talk about.
Speaker 3 (55:44):
Well, the thing that I saw that was I'm like,
I won't see this standing in the ring was Bjra
and Bubbery. Oh so we saw that because technically he
well he doesn't have a partner. There's no other guy
in his team because Elijah is injured. So what's gonna happen?
He's moving forward like right away because he's the only one,
(56:07):
or I don't know, like I feel it's it's not
really fair, or is he going to bring someone else to,
you know, beat his ass.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
Or I hope Dark State comes out and they jump them. Oh,
I don't know what's gonna happen. But basically they were
implying that bj is going to fight with Bubba Ray.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Bj Ray versus Bubba Ray.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
Okay, yeah, I told you I would pay to see that.
Speaker 1 (56:33):
But it's not happening on an E or a MC
on Sunday nights at ten.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
That that that much? That much? I know.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
The one thing that I saw was Undertaking talking to
Drake Morose saying, your highs have been really high, but
your lows have also been kind of low, which I
would say his lows have been low, but his mes
have been mad, and he's had as many mess as
he's had highs. I wouldn't say too much in the
way low, but anyway, this is this is Awn. But
that's the part that stuck out to me. But yeah,
you know, you've got your.
Speaker 2 (57:01):
Thing with BJ which I think is fantastic.
Speaker 3 (57:03):
So yeah, I can't wait to see what's gonna happen
next week because I feel like Undertaker already made his
mind about Shiloh. But the last two weeks that well,
the last two matches that Drake had, I was like, Wow,
he stood out, especially the last one, Like that was
a great fucking big guy babyface, and it's like I
(57:26):
want to see more of him. And I was like,
I feel he's already It's like Xena and A's It's
like I already know, and it's like and I mean,
Shiloh to the opposite of Xena. Shiloh has been great.
I mean it's I can't no, he's been doing great
his promos. It's again, fucking Bray Wyatt's a legitimate son.
Speaker 2 (57:47):
He seems like he was born for this, for this.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, so.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
As good as Danny is she is small small.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
He's a big guy.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
He's you know, and he moves too.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
So yeah, the Taker has two big guys that are
to me, could have a very bright future because they're both.
Speaker 9 (58:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:05):
I mean like everything I've seen from Drake, especially his
last match with Anthony Luke so good. Like hits were like.
Speaker 2 (58:12):
Nothing else they could be.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
You know, when you had a fake razor and fake diesel,
you could, you could. They could do a fake Wyatt
family thing and take it on the road.
Speaker 3 (58:22):
Why not? I mean the White Cysts are a little
stale right now, So why.
Speaker 1 (58:26):
Doesn't that bring you know that we don't agree on that?
You know that that I'm still I like that, still
in a rocking chair.
Speaker 2 (58:34):
I'm still still rocking with them.
Speaker 3 (58:36):
Well I I I'm patiently waiting at something that happen.
Let's say I was like and that's not on them,
that's all creative. So I would do a lot more
with them, and they're not.
Speaker 9 (58:47):
So you are a lot of you are a lot
of it.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
It's it's been a right anyway, it's been a right.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
It's been a right.
Speaker 1 (58:55):
But as we've pointed out, there are things to look
forward to next week. I'm already looking forward to next
week's episode and our next week's recording. So yeah, I
guess you should take them out with a little witchcraft.
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Yeah.
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