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October 16, 2025 95 mins
0:00 – Introduction & Season Recap

LuFisto opens the show, referencing the LFG finals and the end of season two.
Jeff reveals that LFT season three has been renewed and discusses recent roster changes, including surprise releases.

1:51 – Commercials & International Broadcasts

Discussion about WWE commercials, international viewing experiences, and background appearances by wrestlers.

3:43 – Surprising Releases & Character Analysis

The hosts analyze the release of Hayes Jameson and speculate on possible reasons (injury, personal choice, or character fit).
They discuss the evolution of certain characters and the importance of unique personas in wrestling.

7:16 – Men’s Finalist Rematch: Harlem Lewis vs. Drake Morrow

Detailed breakdown of the rematch, including in-ring psychology, character work, and match flow.
Commentary on wrestling techniques, storytelling, and the importance of intensity in high-stakes matches.

19:17 – Post-Match Reflections & Character Futures

Reflections on the match outcome, Shawn Michaels’ decision-making, and the future potential of both finalists.
Discussion of how certain wrestlers fit into the current NXT landscape.

24:00 – Shiloh Hill’s Presence & Storytelling

Analysis of Shiloh Hill’s character, his on-screen demeanor, and the importance of subtle storytelling in wrestling.

26:30 – Reality of Wrestling Segment

Booker T’s segment with Harlem Lewis, emphasizing the importance of “checks and championships.”
The hosts discuss the significance of wrestling culture and personal motivation.

32:47 – Women’s Final: Danni  vs. P Nasty

In-depth play-by-play of the women’s final, including entrances, match psychology, and key spots.
Critique of match pacing, character work, and crowd engagement.

46:00 – Match Analysis & Judges’ Reactions

The hosts and coaches reflect on the strengths and weaknesses of the women’s match.
Discussion of what makes a compelling wrestling character and the importance of presence and consistency.

54:00 – Shiloh vs. Harlem: The Men’s Final

Breakdown of the men’s final, including entrances, crowd reactions, and in-ring storytelling.
Commentary on the abrupt finish and what could have made the match more satisfying.

1:10:00 – Judges’ Deliberation & Final Decisions

Coaches and Shawn Michaels deliberate on the winners, discussing criteria for selection and the unique qualities of each finalist.
The hosts debate the logic behind the final choices and the importance of explaining decisions to the audience.

1:20:00 – Reflections on the Show’s Format & Suggestions

Suggestions for improving the judging system, including the idea of rotating judges and more transparency in scoring.
Discussion of the value of diversity and representation in wrestling.

1:30:00 – Closing Thoughts & Future Plans

The hosts promote upcoming content, including a retrospective episode with Dr. Gina Posan.
Final thoughts on the season, shoutouts to the wrestling community, and recommendations for the documentary “Lunatic: The Luna Vachon Story.”
Social media plugs and encouragement for listener feedback.

1:36:00 – Outro

LuFisto and Jeff sign off, teasing one more show and thanking listeners for their support.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Tonight on LFG.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
All the damn work.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
I'll put it in with you, you fistos.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
What can you do with this person who's new? So
they look good, you look good, and everybody's safe as well.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Put him in a black leather jacket, a black guy,
Jeff Lippman. It looked like she was too slow for school,
but she came out playing the hot mean girl.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Look busdom this to bully them, frighten them in this.
To you, it's the LFG finals. It is like Festivus.
I got a lot of problems with you people, and

(00:44):
you're gonna hear about it. Ah, My dear Jeff, it
is the end of the road for season two. Before
we get into it, any comments, any, any thoughts, any
anything you wanna let I don't know that comes from
your heart. Since this is the end.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, it's actually not the end because LFG Season three
has been renewed. I don't know who's going to be on.
I don't know if it's gonna be the same format.
I don't know if we'll see some of the same people.
We certainly don't seem like we're going to see some
of the people because in the releases they were revealed
this week included bj Ray, which I don't think either
of us is heartbroken about that summer Sarrell, who I

(01:28):
would say is a bit of a surprise, not a
terrible spri It was more of a surprise that she
was on LFG than she was released, because they have
a lot of women sort of similar to her that
I saw progress in the short time that I don't
know why they're pulling the chord so early, and much
to my surprise. Well two surprises. One a last year

(01:50):
graduate to evolve Jamar Hampton or Troy Yearwood for those
who only watch LFG, who I think to this moment
still holds nine strength records. In the p was cut,
he was on a valve. He was working in a
program with It's kayle As sort of mismatched tag team
Barners who were admiring each other's peaks, and it was
actually hysterical. They said he had a cracked hip bone

(02:13):
on TV. I have no idea whether the TV revealed
injury is a real injury or not. If it's real
and it's cracked hip bone, that could be revelatory of
allot of things, but it could just be bullshit. So
I don't know, but I was surprised on that not
only was he on Evalve. But for those of you
who you know, don't pay attention to the sort of

(02:33):
these other ancillary content, but you do see all of
the WWE commercials because you have to cash. You're watching
that plas. There is one for La Knight and jay
usoare doing a slim gym. Commercial goes on for very long.
They walk through a bunch of different scenes and backdrops,
and in those backdrops there were there were some wrestlers
and some actors and in one of them, Jamar Hampton

(02:54):
was one of the background actors doing yoga.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
And you know what, we don't even see those those
commercials like in crowd Jewels of pay per view. All
we get is that it's like a music. It's the
same thing for SmackDown. It's like.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
It's like the way to use it for wrestling soup
oh yeah, or like when you're waiting for Peacock you're
for your show to start.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, I mean there's that and it just says like
we'll be back later in all kinds of languages, with
wrestlers doing poses for three minutes. So in case you
ever wonder what's going on for the internationals, That's what
we see. So it's a long pee break. It's not
even entertaining. It's like it's just a loop over, like

(03:44):
a loop going on, a loop on the loop on
the of that terrible song.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
So for anybody wondering that, I mean, first of all,
they have like three hundred people they could have put
in that commercial, and they chose him. And yes, he
looks like an African American version of Jesse Gotters, you know, basically,
you know, five ten, five foot eleven, you know, perfect physique,
you know, carved out of stone. So I don't know,
but the real one that took me by surprising, probably

(04:09):
by you and let me believe Houston, is there a problem,
hey's Jamison. Why the hell would you cut.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Her unless there's something that happened, like I don't know,
either a major injury or she asked the release because
she's it's not whatever. The reason I just felt is
really drunk. I just felt it was a little bit quick.
So she's been there. Like when they were filming LFG,

(04:36):
it was they were saying five months, so let's say
a year within a year, and if if I just
like think about what I saw on LFG, there was
like major progress. So to me, it's he's like, okay,
let's give her another year just to see where this
is going. Is like her Her wrestling was not graceful,

(05:02):
it was not like super tight, but with the kind
of gimmicks she had, it worked that she was falling
awkwardly and as long as she was not getting hurting
your opponents, and you know that was fine. Now, do
WW wanna have a character that's drunk or high or whatever?

(05:24):
You know, is it sponsor since they're all about that now,
is this sponsor friendly? But I mean she could be
like Budweiser. It's like main sponsor crime primes.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
She's found energy drinks. I mean, yeah, just a wild child.
You don't have to say I don't get it. I really.
I mean people who've wrestled for twenty years who didn't
have that kind of character development and those kinds of
layers and those kind of instincts and that kind of
fun just making everything fun and incorporating everyone. I don't

(05:58):
know that I've ever seen that from and in five
months and again that you know, there's either something there
or she didn't get want to be there, or whatever.
Maybe we'll find out in due course. But wow, I mean,
you know, when Zeta Steal opted not to renew, and
I assume that was over money, because because she's another
one with potential. I assume that's because they had Chelsea Green,

(06:20):
they have Ariana Grace like the next the next generation
of that, and then they had Heyes James, in which
we the generation after of A and in generation and wrestling,
I mean four to five years. I don't mean like
you know, actually like you know, twelve to fifteen years,
and think of appropriation generations, you know, so you know,
the people who were stars five years ago aren't all

(06:42):
stars now, and the people who were being stars in
five years we might not even know some of their
names right now. In any event, I was surprised. And
I think that this this season finale, being in Houston
and the famous line from Houston is Houston, we have
a problem. I think was fitting because some strain things.
And again, like you said, or maybe I said, we'll

(07:03):
probably find out more over the course of time, they'll
give interviews or whatever. Maybe to me, I hope. So
you ladies, you're not you're not restrained by contract. I mean,
why not? Why not give a gig, give a little
guy a little guys, James reach out.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, hey, we love you here.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Because you've liked Zeta.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
I know you know me.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I know because you you shot me a DM once
telling me you were just fucking around with me, not
not you know, not to be like friendly or anything.
Was just letting me know that you were you were
in character when you send me you know what you
thought was a mean response. I was just happy to
get a response. But yeah, give a little kaya shot anyway,
this car This show starts out with the rematch to
determine the Men's finalists, and we have two members of

(07:47):
well erstwhile teams. We have Erstwhile Team Taker Drake Moreau
now part of Team Bubba, and we have Harlem Lewis.
And the first thing I noticed about Harlem Lewis it
looks like he shaved his body. You know what.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Yeah, I noticed he was wearing red instead of black,
but I didn't. I don't know why I didn't. I
didn't look at the body. But well, so you know,
he says.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
He you're a man is so large? Cats apostas?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, or I watched this episode way too late, but
you know Louis Lewis says he thrived under that kind
of pressure. Like he's really focused, he's really serious. You know,
you can see that for him, like wrestling is a
serious thing and that's what he wanted to do. You

(08:40):
feel it when he's talking, and then you have sean moment.
It's like you know, you had a moment so much
so you had your legends all wound it up, like
with what happened with Drake and Arlend, like they were
like all into it. So he's looking forward to this rematch.

(09:01):
He has the last decision. He says, wrestles like your
career depend on it, at least for now. So these
are the words of HBK. And we get like right
away into the match, which happened before it happened in
another place than Houston, because it's almost happening like I

(09:22):
don't know if it happened like a few minutes after
the last taping. It looks like it's really quick. It's
like they didn't like change setting or anything, or I
don't know if it was after a training or whatever.
They're in the same place they were for the previous match.
So the match, you know, there's a great start and

(09:42):
it's really intense, like they go like bam bam bam
right away, and really it was the only way they
could start this match for it to make sense with
all the background of it. That's a match where you
have to start like this. It needs to be intense
and it needs to be serious because you know, the
outcome of this is really important. Somebody is gonna go

(10:04):
to Uston and probably you know, might get a contract.
So Arlem playing differently, we could see like clear cut
like he's a heel, Drake's a babyface. Arlin cuts him
with a knee. Drake like big Babyface comeback with our
strong tackles hence with a splash and goes for the pin,
which is great because when you're doing your comeback as

(10:27):
a babyface, you should always have that exclamation point at
the end. Try a pin at least if you I
like people kicking out at one when it's the beginning
of the match, it makes sense that you're not dead
unless like the exclamation point move is like big, but
it shouldn't be that big. So that splash she does

(10:49):
is great for that, and Arlem like kicks out. He
actually kicked out. I won, which was great to see.
Here's one thing that I've noticed, and it happens all
lots in wrestling. And I mean next time you're watching
anything wrestling, like any wrestling match from anywhere, look for

(11:11):
the hand. When people go for whips. You'll often see
the opponent lift their hands like they want to shake
the hands. Don't do this. If you're a wrestler, do
not do this. You're not supposed to be cooperating with
your opponent. There's a way to, you know, put your
your head near your stomach, right in front, so it's

(11:32):
right there to grab. But wait until the opponent grabs
your hand. And I clearly saw our limb go whoop,
lift his hand and like hey whip me. But you know,
it's a little thing. Nice to meet you. Yes, it's
a little thing that happens all the time. If you're
a wrestler, please try try to avoid it. You know,

(11:53):
Drake dropkicks r Limb outside big heel cut off when
he actually you know, a big man. So to use
everything around as the eat for the the you know,
for the heel makes a ton of sense. You see
Lum ramming Drake into you know, there's the announcing table

(12:14):
and there's a suplex to the outside. You know, he's
making sure that the bigger guy will stay down. And Drake,
you know, he's great at selling his spatials. He's holding
his back like you can see where it hurts. Lewis
is like it's a super like vicious heat. He tries, pinfalls.

(12:35):
He has great punches. Drake like the whole spot, grabs
Arland by the throat, push him in a corner. And
I thought like they were working so well together because
Drake would fight back, but in his fighting back would
put Harlem right where he needed to beat the go
for his next spot, which was you know, jumping from

(12:57):
the second rope. You know, the he did a thing
where like kick me, he kicked the knee, held both
of the back of the head from you know, from
the more of the back. I would say not the head,
because he was working the back from the second. But
who put in there Drake when he was trying to
fight back and he pushed him away. So they were
we were talking last week about placing yourself with the

(13:20):
next move, and that's exactly what they did. It makes sense.
It doesn't look scripted. It looks like it's a real
fight with a guy trying to get out of it,
but hoops. You know, he brought his opponent close to
the ropes, So Arlem uses the ropes with that nice
elbow behind the back. And actually, one thing that is

(13:40):
gonna come up a lot during this show is what
Seawn Michaels is saying at this exact point where he goes,
what we need right now? What we need right now?
That's like the key, you know, sentence to everything I
think when it comes to choosing someone, you know what

(14:01):
we need right now at NXT And he's like Arlem Lewis,
he's got a great look, he's got the nasty from
and I feel from that point Sean's idea was pretty
like kind of made at this point because he's like,
I would need someone like this. Not that Drake is
not good, because Drake is an awesome, big guy, babyface, quick, agile,

(14:27):
but right now, do they have anybody that is like Arlem?
Not really? So I think, yeah, so Drake, you know,
he has charismo and energy. Sean says, he has a
lot of fire. He never gives up and like I said,
he's fast, and Sean's decision, he's gonna say, like the oh,

(14:49):
I don't remember what I routed here, you'll have to
cut this off.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Well I can sort of take I think so good.
So do you have it?

Speaker 2 (15:02):
You're okay? Yeah, so you know the match ends and
Shawn's decision. You know, first he goes like as a
good promoter goes to sees like, if both guys are right,
you're right, You're right, every everything was fine. You know,
a good promoter, a booker is going to do that
to see, okay, match look great like in public. But

(15:24):
are my guys okay because sometimes they get hurt and
they keep going you don't know. And that's that's the
first thing that Seawan did. So I don't know if
you want to go over the match before I go
with Shawn's decision, anything you you want to add to
I thought it was a very good match. It made sense,
like everything was flowing.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah. No, I was afraid they were going to have
the exact same match and they didn't. And it's also
clear and the way they work together that despite pretending
to they of bad love with each other, they clearly don't,
or at least they can leave it outside the ring.
Because Harlem allowed Drake to dominate early. And if there's
a hole in Harlem's game beyond just being green and
and you know, and like you said, putting his arm

(16:06):
off cooperatively when you shouldn't put his arm up. It's
that he is so much more impressive on the outside
of the ring than he is in the inside of
the ring, Like when they fight on the outside, he's
so much more vicious. He feels like he's he's more
natural in space. Drake works well with that also, like
he's pretty good. I'm not downey. I'm just saying that
Harlem outside the ring just seems much more comfortable inside

(16:29):
the ring. That might be a problem. I have a
feeling that in Noah in Japan, they're going to teach
him to get comfortable in the ring with that strong style.
So I think sending him to Japan is a great idea.
I really I never saw Harlem do sort of that
elbow drop to the back of the neck from the
second rope before that was It's not a difficult move,

(16:52):
but I don't see it very often. I often wonder
why we don't see elbow drops from different angles in
different places, and it's nice to see that. I don't
know why it made such an impression to me, but
it did we see it.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Was a innovative I thought like he had innovative moves
and whatever he was doing. Like you said, he was
more like vicious outside seems more comfortable, but at least
when he got inside the ring, he slowed down. The
pace and the little things he was doing and the
moves for a big guy like him, it was things
we don't see all the time.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
So it was like the punch, punch, kick, kick, body
slam guy. I mean exactly you think. And also you're
you're facing a guy that's six ft six. You're about
five to eleven, so I mean, yeah, you're a strong guy,
but still the leverage and probably the overall strength is
on his size aside, and and so you want to

(17:45):
use the leverage of the ropes and and attacking weak
points like the back of the neck to neutralize that.
And we see Sean looking on with Prince Albert, Matt
Bloom same guy, ken tie whatever what do you want
to call or heed tie, and of course they're being
famously noncommittal. Oh yeah, both guys look good. Here, could
go either way. Thanks a lot, Fellas. We get the
jackhammer win for Lewis good. I think the Jackammer is

(18:07):
a really good finisher for him. I was struggling with who,
so I paused the TV at this point. I was struggling,
and I want to type, not that anybody's gonna test
my record, and even if they did, I delete these
notes as soon as we're done with the show. But
I typed Lewis for me, and then I heard what
you heard was Shawn Michael's, you know, congratulating both guys,

(18:28):
and I like how he checked on them. It's some
of those little things, those insights to tell you what
wrestling's all about, maybe more than you know all the
coaches bullshit and stuff like that. And he says we
need size, charisma, and energy. Well, I mean that could
describe that really sounds more like Drake Murry to me.

(18:48):
But what you need right now is Harlem. And right
then and there, I realized you had bron Breaker. Then
you sort of passed the torch to Obafemi Opa Femi's
probably gonna be on the main roster as of Royal Rumble,
So you need that other sort of strong, muscly, intense,
scary guy, and and there he is. And by the

(19:10):
time Obafemi is on the main roster. He'll be back
from Japan and you'll know whether or not you got
a guy or not that you can put some gas behind. Otherwise,
hopefully rich Holland will be healthy by the n because
he can always be your stop gap, you know. He's
sort of like the the WWE minor League, you know,
break Glass, get Goldberger, brock Lesner, that kind of thing,

(19:30):
you know, and he seems to be recovering well. So
I when he when he picked Harlem Lewis, I was
almost surprised, but I was you know, first of all,
we already knew Harlem was going to know us, so
it could have gone either way. But I was glad
they picked Harlem. But but it really was not by
a hair, but like by a nose, because either way

(19:51):
you could have gone with this. I will always prefer
the intense, scary guy over sort of the the fun
loving big guy who loves to party but doesn't mind five.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
I always find that to be like a silly like
the no Way jose a thing, to be like a
silly trop he'll billy Jim, you know, so I would I,
you know, I, I you know my bias is showing,
but I was glad they had carlm Lewis.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, and I mean to go back what I was saying,
like he said again what I need immediately Harlem Lewis,
So you know, probably he was like to me, like
they were both good in this match, great baby face,
great heel, and like everything was clear, everything flowed, you know,

(20:32):
besides little things that I see because I trained people
and I did this for so long, but the regular
fan probably doesn't notice or even cares, which is fine,
Like it's it's really minded details. And you know, Drake,
Drake was disappointed, but he's he's happy, you know, with

(20:54):
this season because he says, I I finally found Drake Moreau,
and I agree because the first few episodes I was like, eh,
not really and then suddenly like he woke up and
I was like, oh man, this this guy is a
great baby face. He's like like we've been trying to say,
like he's like a Kevin Nash, but he's more athletic
and he's this is like I feel when they're gonna

(21:18):
need a babyface like this, he's they're gonna call him
because he's really really good and he's a natural babyface
and he gets the crowd going. They love him.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, now you could do anything. You could put him
on NXT tomorrow too. I mean, if you if they
ever decided to make Chase You serious again, you could
put him and Chase You and and and Duke Cutson,
who developed a character but never really learned how to wrestle,
You could put him in that role, you know, and
you get an instant upgrade. I know, I know the
Uriah Connors is Regal's other kid. I don't know. I

(21:53):
don't know where these kids come from him from is
they look nothing like him? Well too, Dempsey's sort of
those but they're like anyway, I'm not import but yeah,
I don't know, like cal Dixon at least has some
size like him. And you know, and Drake could could
look like a tag team anyway, not important, I think that.
I think also during this it was effective that they
showed Shiloh Hill watching the monitor that just saw him.

(22:15):
You don't see the monitor, you just see he's watching
his arms across. He's serious. It's serious, Shiloh. Yep, it's
not psycho Shiloh. It's not fun, Shiloh. It's just studying,
watching Shiloh.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
And then student Silo.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Then when Harlan comes out, Shiloh still here watching and
they and there's a stare down that it looked legit
if it was acting, great acting. If it was legit,
maybe even better.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
But that but that's all they needed to do, Like
I would have like to me, it would have been
like so fake if they went like, oh, I'm being
a beat.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
You right, staring their heads on each other. You know
that that that farhegged, you know, shoving contest, Yeah, and
that would have been bad.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Just the look the intensity of the boat guys. And
then Arlen just leaving.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, Paul, you keep going by business exactly.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
And then Shiloh's looking up like it's like he's looking
up at you know, the task ahead and the challenge
in front of him and what's gonna happen. And it's like, yeah,
that was a perfect ending. It told the story without
any words. And I feel there's not enough of that.
Fucking promos are twenty minutes to open a fucking show.
You don't need that, you know. Undertaker pointed to the

(23:27):
Vogt WrestleMania's sign, and you knew what he meant. That's
all he needed to do sometimes like it's enough, less
is more and yeah that was great, and yeah so
really good good shit, Like.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
I don't know if they take us to basically a
commercial for Houston and Reality of Wrestling Booker's promotion without
saying we're doing a commercial for Reality of Wrestling. We
see Booker, he's with Harlem and he's he's taking him
into Booker's clearly his Reality of Wrestling office with He's like,
and this is what it's all about, checks, championship, checks

(24:01):
and championships, you know, in his own sort of man
cave with all the titles all over and photos, and
RM's like, yeah, I really get it. I if this
isn't If you don't think this is the coolest thing
in the world, what are you here for? And like,
I love that. I loved it because it's pro wrestling.
Like ninety nine percent of the people out there in
the world will either say that's not cool or yeah

(24:22):
it looks good, but okay, you're you're an overgrown child.
It's like seeing somebody's anime, you know, collection of their
horror film you know, movie thing or their lego collection.
It's like, okay, cool, Yeah that that that's cool for you, dude,
not famili but okay, but he really felt it. We
then got you know, sort of obligatory comments from Shiloh,
Danny and Panina. And then they showed us the seventh

(24:44):
thirty Music Hall, which is where this show was. What
a beautiful facility was. I mean, they really made it
look great. I mean it's this This was great for
like like an nxt AW these days MLW, that kind
of n W a T you know, size show. Just
just a terrific looking venue. And I'm gonna I'm gonna

(25:08):
turn it over with a second. But we see both
Harlem Lewis and shallow Hill coming to the ring and
it's like they both got their off their shift at
out back steakhouse because they're both wearing they're like bulky waiters.
They're both wearing like black dress, you know, collared and
net shirts you know, with one button open, but you know,

(25:28):
so they're so it's like they're ill fitting on them.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
You can see like breathing on you.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
It looks like the guys from like Chippendale's like they
got off their they're shifted, like you know who you
know out back across the street, you know, at the
mall and then went to the we're going to their
next job. I just told so it's like when Baron
Corbin was like the assistant GM and he looked like
a waiter. You know this, Silly things like that is
what I pay attention to. I just think that's why
they're like the rivals. They're dressed basically identically. And I

(26:01):
don't know if that was done on purpose, if so, congratulations,
or if it's just how similar these two guys are.
Even better.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Just to go back a little bit of what you
were saying, you know, Bookers, he says, it's not it's
not about friendship, and Arlem SEUs to understand everything, and
even Booker is like when you look at this room,
that's where and you could say, suckers in the room,
you know, in the locker room, follow that this is
what I have. This is like my like my temples

(26:31):
of my achievements or whatever. So that's how Arlem sees it,
Like he wants that in his home, like trophies and
belts and things that prove that how like he's one
of the best, and that's exactly what he wants to do.
So he's probably he has this room in his head
from now on, and you know, we we see Shiloh.

(26:54):
He says he promised himself he would get back, you know,
to the finals, and he's there. It's where you see
like if the whole season was worth it, and it's
a lot of weight to put on one match. He
says that he's like, I'm going to win. And I
just saw the bat like that line a lot of
weight to put on one match, and I was like,

(27:16):
is it really because how many times we watched a
match and it was clear, you know, I'm just thinking
about I think semifinals where it was Zena versus or
maybe like Xena and A's like Hayes was doing such
a better job and they picked Zena anyway, and in

(27:36):
a match where it was Shiloh and Drake, I felt
that Drake was way better in that match, but Taker says,
you know, for the long run, I'm gonna pick Shiloh.
So I was like, yeah, it's whatever, it's convenient.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
So it's just different from any other sport. I mean,
I mean, first of all, it's not because they they
saw LFG season one and they know that half of
the people made it to a or to season two
and some people are working NXT, so they know it's
it's it's not one or done. Secondly, that's wrestling, and
wrestling unlike any other I mean, every other sport has
a championship, you know, game or series. I mean, I

(28:13):
guess you can say best of sevens, but you know
that game seven is one game. The super Bowl one game,
So to come down to one game is that I mean,
these these these are athletes. You know, both of these
guys we were competitive football players D one or semi
pro or both. So yeah, it's it's a little it's
a little strange. I mean, I get how it is.
But I think the trick about being a main event

(28:36):
or a top star in these companies is that that
one match becomes your normal because you'd know it isn't
really that one match. Some might be more special, WrestleMania
might be more special than Survivor Series or the Royal
Rumble or Money in the Bank or Crown Jewel, but
you got to get up for the other ones, and
you and you got and you can't get two in

(28:57):
your head about the big ones because wrestling is fifty
two weeks a year episodic television, and you know, and
while the titles are real, they're really not. I mean,
it's a sign of confidence and you know, to to
carry the weight and you know, and all those other
good things. But you way, But then again, at their ages,
what are they supposed to say. I mean, maybe they

(29:19):
fed them that line. Maybe they really feel that way.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I don't know if you feel the same way. But
when Chila was like I'm gonna win, I was like,
you're not convincing me. You're not convincing me with whatever
you're saying.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
You know what, And this way of anything was was
p Nasty who said I'm not gonna lie. P Nasty
is nervous. I've never heard her say that before.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
You know, you know what it's good about p Nasty.
She's real. That's why your promos are so good. It's
really her talking. She's not you know she. I think
she's cranking up her like how she is to fucking
eleven like stone cold Wood like it was him, but
like cramped up to the fucking max. And I think

(30:00):
that's how she's you know, she's wrestling and she's doing
her grummo. So that's why it works. It's she talks
fruit like, Yeah, she's like I'm nervous, but you know what,
I heard this and you know, you know how it's
gonna finish. I made everybody look good and I got
all the points, and she did. She got all the

(30:21):
fucking points.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
We all need people who are sweethearts. When they're sweethearts,
but you know not to cross them against their bad
asses and that and that's her. You know, she's obviously
a sweetheart. She obviously loves her family. She obviously can
be a good friend. She she clearly you can see
her expression change when she's at a character. But but
I think, but I think she's also natural, a natural

(30:43):
badass and she comes if she's really related to analyzed
and the fotos, she comes from a family of people
who they know how to do that that they they've
been in this business for a while, so they know
they need to be real bad asses. They probably are,
you know, raised to be bad asses. But also very
like I hear from people that Jacob Fott two is
the mostre the most polite person of him at the

(31:04):
respectful and so I say, and he's terror and he's
absolutely terrifying. You know the show I had with mister
Thomas the obviously he's been on most of the shows,
and she's I can't remember who who it was. I
think it was a Big Trouble Ben Bishop and they
were referring to him as Big Jake. Oh no, I
must have been another guy from MLW. Maybe it was
Alex Kane or or or Kwan. But you know they're saying, yeah,

(31:26):
when we work with Big Jake, yeah, big Jack. I'm like, wait,
are you talking about Jacob Fatu? They're like, yeah, what
else would you call Jacob Fatou? I'm like, sir, mister Fatus.
They maybe hope not to make eye contact so he
doesn't come over to me. I I I don't know
what I would call it, but I wouldn't call him
Big Jake. I mean, but they also call that Jack

(31:46):
Big Josh ok fa sorry his name is Josh.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
You were talking about the seven one three music all
I checked. It's actually it's an actually like it's five
thousand people, so it's it's a good sized venue, beautiful
as you said, And you know, they all have to
impress Shawn Michael, he's the man to impress. He's the
men making the decision today. The coaches will have their say,
but they're not picking whoever like wins the contract. So

(32:14):
you know, Shiloh and Danny like take her, take her.
Tells them like, you know the enormity of what this is.
This is the end or the beginning of the road,
depending on how you look at it. Stay aggressive, That's
what he says to Danny. Danny, she was warned to
be a performer. Her whole family is there. Shiloh is
like he says, he's on the Redemption Tour, and Arlem

(32:37):
is just focusing on the goal. He wants to win
that contract. And from from there, like we go to
match one of the finals, which is Danny Sigalski versus
Panina Twilippa p nasty Danny for this one, Uh, this
is something I didn't like. The last two matches she

(32:59):
had like she you didn't know she was face or heel,
and she kind of came out. But for this one,
super baby face wearing all white and you.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Know, white and dark blue, all Nitney lion.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
And I mean she had fire. She was smiling and panasty.
We didn't even see her entrance, but just the way
the interactions she had with the camera and she was
giving what was her character and she was giving intensity,
just by the look. I like the necklace she was wearing.
It had the little something from her culture. But I

(33:38):
feel she needs like a jacket and had these something
that makes her even like look bigger than she is
and like when she comes out. I'm thinking about bull
o'canno or kiro kudo in Japan where they had those robes,
but they have like it was either feathers or holler

(34:00):
that was so high they look like monstrous, like something
big was happening, and it's like it was clear, do
not fuck with this person. That's what she needs, ulster, you.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Know, like a big like a big leather or like
overcoat kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
I would say leather. I don't know, it's if it's overdone,
it could like it would need to be a color
or like patterns, like like someone patterns or anything that
makes it like different, like an.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Asian something something from their culture to make a culturally appropriate.
And I'm sure there's all sorts of ornamental gowns and
ceremonial gowns for different occasions that you know, most of
us dummies wouldn't know that that that's like you know,
a bridesmaid's dress or whatever. We would think it looks
badass or it's a religious ceremony that nobody's done in
four hundred years, but still unsure that it's there and

(34:52):
it would look cool.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
But I gotta got your well they have eye teeth?
Do they have like the version of this, like, because
that would be great, Like she could be high chief, you.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Know, oh without doubt that. Yeah, oh you know that would.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Be great, more more than just having it. What's that thing?
Row and range? The the freaking will follow? Yeah, I
had shoe la fall on my head, but it's.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
The plastic red peppers. Yeah, it looks like it looks
like he's a commercial for Chili's More and More than Royalty.
And they sort of just forgot about that, didn't they.
It was so important for like five and a half years,
and now it's just like.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
You know, just see dear slim Jim, get to get
your fireballs shop, you know as well while you climb
the ladder.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
We cast I want to be more like John Cena
Batista than the rocket. It was good until it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Oh anyway, let's go into this match. There was an
awesome walk up and the throw and like Danny like
was spinning in the air like from the start. It
was telling the story Panina power and you know Danny,
she she would have to do a lot to beat
p Nasty. What I love is p Nasty did not

(36:11):
bump when Danny was trying to, you know, rare her down.
But Danny was not giving up. She was showing she
was fast and I felt a p. Nasty was working
a little bit too quick, you know. She she went
to live Danny in the corner and almost dropped her,
like and even Booker noticed that, I'm like, she needs
to take her timeless. She could put one hand underneath

(36:33):
her or you know our armpit, the other hand look
at the people, and then you know, pick her up.
So it gives time to Danny to actually place herself
to you know, push yourself the right way so she
it doesn't look awkward. And because it was too fast,
it did look a little bit like weird, but at
least she did not drop her. She made it to
the rope and the first bump p Nasty took was Danny,

(36:58):
you know when she hit her from the second like
she needed an extra leverage to bring the big woman down,
which you know, a psychology wise makes sense. She went
for a basement drop kick and then a springboard cross body.
But she's so small, you know, p Nasty caught her
the big ra ring apron brump and then p Nasty

(37:20):
went into the heat. At this point, I felt like
p Nasty kind of forgot to work the crowd. That's
you know, she was saying she was nervous, and that's
usually what happens when someone's really nervous. They're so focusing
on doing the moves right and not forgetting the next spot,
that they forget to work the crowd between the moves

(37:40):
or even during the moves, And I felt that was
a big lacking her punches, like should have been a
little bit bigger take her set. It looked too calculated.
There was a sloppy crucifix from from Danny, but at
least like P Nasty was able to work with it
and finally get her rough for someone drop and Danny

(38:00):
was you know rolled next roll to the ropes, which
showed that the babyface was you know, the babyface is smart.
Your baby face was like, never look stupid. What bothered
me about this spot though, is Danny looks smart and
P Nasty looked kind of like a fool. Or stupid

(38:21):
because she went for a cover so close to the rope.
It was not like it was not far enough where
Danny just you know, had to stretch her leg to
put her feet on the rope to break the cover.
It was like right next to it. P Nasty should
have at least like polar or something. It made her
look like, oh, like just I don't know me. Yeah,

(38:46):
it's like.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
So like Doc Gallows in most of his matches. I'm
not a fan, neither of mine obviously. Anyway, Sorry, if
you're listening to Doc looking personal, it's still work.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Well, when someone's wrestling, you don't grab their shit and
put them on the floor because you want their spot
at locker room.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Well.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Yeah, anyway, long story.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
But a good one.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
I think you got all the essentials in.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
Pretty much, you know it. Just be a good human being.
Don't be a dick whoever you are, rich, famous, poor,
you know, don't be an asshole. That is all. That's
the advice. Yes, So Danny fights back with good gut punches,
you know, but she stopped by a huge knee. There's
a little quick double down where Danny attacks Pnasty's knee,

(39:39):
which I thought was kind of late in the match,
they and they were looking at the mat. At this point,
I felt like are they lost? Is it? It felt
like something was happening there. And they went into a tornado,
like a sloppy tornado DDT like it didn't look really
good and a knockward frog splash so and even like

(40:03):
Booker was like fuck on the splash, so, you know, finally, finally,
Pnasty was looking at the crown telling them it was
over grabbed anybody's throat and she she lost time talking shit,
which is a good way for a heel not to
look stupid, but waste too much time so the babyface

(40:25):
can recover from whatever happened before. So you know, choke
slam into the hell's gate, She picks Danny up, tries
to find but Danny doesn't let go. Great babyface move
where the babyface never gives up. John't seen them made
his fucking career over it, you know, and he made
a lot of money, you know. And she even tried,

(40:45):
like Kanasti tries to even use the ropes, but she
crumbles again. She tries to get out, get out, get out,
but then it's too much. She has to tap out,
and you know, that that was it one, two three,
I think, do you wanna want the match? Before I
go like my overall comment about this this fight.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Yeah, I'm going to even back up a little bit
further because I mean, you cover a lot of stuff
really well. But I thought when Taker noted that his contestants,
he said that Shiloh had an eerie calm about him,
and I agree, that's eerie because with Shiloh you don't
know what that means. And he said that Danny was
really wound up, which is probably what she needs to be,
though maybe not so much from all the contestants. We

(41:25):
all heard them say the same things in different words repeatedly,
so it's not important. I definitely know that Danny came
out in full pep you know, PEP rally face mode,
which I think was perfect. Really into that that cheerleading thing.
Went with a more you know, less Tennessee Titan, which
is a more regional thing, especially Houston and Tennessee. They
they've they've they lost teams, you know, the Tennessee Titans

(41:48):
were the Houston Oilers, So probably a smart move. I
don't know if it was calculated not to go with
the Nitney Lions. Penn State because, if anything, probably a
neutral for Houston. P Nasty came in with she had.
I felt that her entrance was a little bit more
explosive to her usual entrance. She she put a little
more energy and oomph into it, which I thought was

(42:08):
really good. And the match open up and she was
tossing Danny around like a rag doll, which I thought
was good as well. I really liked both Danny's drop
kicks and Panina's selling of working the gut. Danny wasn't
trying to get. She wasn't trying to drop kick her thighs,
her knees, her head, her shook. It was the gut,

(42:30):
even to the to the oblique, to the side of
the gut, and that and that kept tupping, and that
was smart. Pe Nasty definitely seemed a little rushed. It
was definitely I call it a mini botch because it
wasn't that big a deal. Maybe the timing is the
difference between a major botch and a mini batch. But
even the coaches in the back at that point said, well,
bad timing there, And I typed, of course, Lou who

(42:54):
was off, So you probably mentioned a Lou who.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Was off, who was off for on which one.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
The mini bot when they were when I thought it
was Pnasty rushing and I think I think it was
p Nasty that was off, But this would be after
the drop kick sequence to the GOP.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
That's the part where I said, like they kind of
seem lost.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yeah, and like almost like almost like stumbling over each
other a little bit.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
Yeah. I it's really hard to know, like because they
were both looking at each other, so it was like
it felt like a deer in a headlight moment where
like both Opponius don't know where the fuck they're at,
and then suddenly like one of them goes like, oh,
it's it's the Tornado didt and they went into it
like quickly, and it looked it didn't look good. Yeah,

(43:40):
So I felt like maybe it was both of them
at the same time, like deer in a headlight, like, oh.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, Tornado doing what he should be, Like it comes
out of a you know, it should be a reversal,
it should be a counter, not so on it comes
out away away.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Danny was still punching and working the legs again. She
did that drop kick straight to the obliques, which which
I thought was cool. I said, that all right. Danny
seemed to be slipping a bit like her like her footwork, sheresling,
but she had instant recovery, so that that was both
bad and good. She never fell down, She never fell
off the rope, so you know that was good. She

(44:15):
should watch that. Maybe it was the foot work, maybe
new boots, I don't know. At some point, Booker and
Bubba were noticeably unhappy with Danny's fall. From my eyes,
I didn't really notice anything different, you know, but I'm
I'm an amateur. You're a professional. Did you did you
share their sort of fear and angst?

Speaker 2 (44:34):
I did, because, like I felt, they worked really well,
the big versus small that worked like it was clear,
like who was the power, who was the quacking eggs,
who was the heel, who was the face? So this
was established just right from the earth entrance and the
moves they were doing, and you know Panasty knock falling,

(44:56):
but then Danny bumping as soon as they were there
was contact from from p Nasty. But I felt the
overall match was pretty average. It had no excitement that
they would forget to work the characters. Like even Taker says,
it started really good, it ended okay, but the middle

(45:17):
was a little like they got too excited. I felt
like they got scared. They were looking at the map,
not looking at the crowd, trying to wonder what was
the next spot, rushing into things. It's yeah, I was.
I was really disappointed about this match. I will say

(45:37):
I was expecting a lot more so, you know, hearing
Booker swearing and Taker shaking his.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Hand, and Boba's like, you aren't surprised.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
No, I felt the exact same way. There was good
stuff in there, but overall it was not a great match.
If it's it was okay, But I mean.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
So my semi untrained eyes or semi trained eyes, I mean,
I agree it started really well. I thought the end.
I thought that the choke slamp being defended into a
Hell's gate was really good. I like the p Nasty
powered up and attempted like to slam her way out
of it, but Danny maintained a Hell's gate. That was
really good. But then that wasn't it. P Nasty tried

(46:23):
to alter her body to turn that into a pinning predicament,
which I think is smart, and it's smart for a
big wrestler. You know, you don't expect that from a
big wrestler, but Danny reversed her body and into a
place where p Nasty had to ultimate tap for a wind,
so I thought the end sequence was really good. I
agree the middle was anything the right home about. I
don't share the disappointment that you Booker, Bubba and Taker do,

(46:47):
but obviously you guys know better what to look at.
I mean, I guess from the audience perspective, I represent them,
but I'm not sure I'm really typical of the audience
because despite watching wrestling for a really long time, the
wrestling it's office are like the least important part of
wrestling to make. I was also lost because we saw
both their families, and Danny's father and mother and sister

(47:09):
were there, and her sister has the exact god Dan
faces Danny. I mean, the only difference is she's like
about five inches taller. Otherwise I would have thought they
were identical twins, I mean, the same face. So I'm
like figuring, that's got to be a mother. But she's
so young, Wigan Nancy over that there's an older woman
with her, But but they're so young. For all I know,
it could have been her grandmother, not that she looks

(47:30):
particularly old, but I can't really tell ages any longer,
and you know, I just know too young around my age.
You know, that's like sort of that's like the as
you know, you know, high school through college looks the
same to me. Anything onto that looks like a complete child,
and anything after that is like, you know, I still

(47:51):
think that I look thirty five, which of course I don't.
But that's that's how we fool ourselves. Homer Simpson stuff. Anyway,
and then we saw he nasked these family as well,
which of course we've seen her dad before and all that.
But I don't know. I yeah, I didn't think this
was This match didn't set the world on fire, But
I didn't think that the men's match that we saw

(48:12):
before between Drake and Harlem was so much better. It
was better, but I almost always like a men's match
and a hoss match over a wins match. But I
see what you're all coming from. But I you know,
I didn't react as strongly as you all did to it.
But anyway, Danny got the win, so you know, I

(48:32):
guess then we can. I think I think it went
straight to another match before we heard from the coaches
and the judges.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
And yeah, I mean, like you know that the important
thing in wrestling is that like I see it a
certain way and other wrestlers will look at it another way.
But as long as the fans enjoy what they saw
and they were into it, really it's the restless things

(49:01):
to work on to become better and you know, a
better performer, better actor, better whatever you need to work
on as a wrestler, is it the character whatever? But
I mean as a fan, if you enjoy that, that's great,
because you know that's that's what matters. It's the people
paying fucking high pricess. Now you know, they make them

(49:24):
happy as like they shouldn't really like they have to
care about the comments that like I'm making him Bubba
whatever so they can get better and have better matches
and push themselves as athletes. But if the fans are
you know happy, hey, yes, and yeah, honestly, we go
we go into Shiloh versus Arlin really quickly as Taker,

(49:48):
you know, Taker goes like as the old j R.
Would say, this is gonna be a strong and right
right from the entrance, like Arlin looks menacing, He look
at the fans in the eyes on the way to
the ring, like he's making sure like I could kill you.

(50:08):
This is real to me and I love this having
high contact with the fans, with your opponent, with the referee.
It had so much more without saying anything, you look
like a fucking killer, and he did right there, So
great job there, Silo. I was like, why is he

(50:30):
doing a fucking rap dance? And what the fuck is
this city? Terrible song? Oh my god, I felt like
I died a little. How can you kill a fucking character?
Like right from the star, who the fuck picked this song?

(50:53):
I was like, is it fucking deaf rubble? What the
fuck is this? I'm like, oh my god, he's really
charismatic and you want to fucking go on a ride
with him.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
But but but doesn't it do this spoil the resultant?
You know? He was winny as soon as he got
shitty deaf rebel music.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Probably I was like, oh my god, what.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
The fuck is the music sign? The music sign?

Speaker 2 (51:22):
I was like, how to cull? Like we've been saying
how much he looked like he was fucking brave Wyat's
son give him something like I don't know, weirdish or
but you know, since he's a babyface and they.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Call him dark web Shiloh Hills, so give him darker.
I know he's supposed to be the face in this match,
but that doesn't matter. People like dark music. They love
Alistair Black's music. I mean, you know, so.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Hey, he's coming out with a smile. He's looking at
people with a smile. He's a baby face, all right,
but don't use fuck this song. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
I mean a little rob zombie more human than human,
you know, would would.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Work for this guy, as as Jim Cornett would say,
he would like this. It's fucking terrible.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
That's that said Shiloh. I think came out looking very comfortable.
He did his normal routine. He looked happy. He was
playing to the crowd because timing is impeccable, and he's
a great contrast. He he looks like he's having fun
without being frivolous. So, which is a great contrast to
harlanis I'm not afraid of you. I'm gonna be myself
and harmle Lowse is like I'm not afraid of Mistaire

(52:37):
daggers into the entire.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
So they had a strong lock up, you know, and
you know right away like the heel pushing his forearm
in the baby face like to kind of push. I
love that. It is so healish to put your farm
like and anyway, if it happens to you, if somebody
grabs you, if you put your farm underneath the nose
of someone, it really fucking hurts. For real. There's something there,

(53:03):
like a meni bone or whatever. It hurts. So when
the heel is like pushing using the form as like
I was, I love that. It's it's a little something
more that hads a lot and Arlem like he Harlem
was talking loud. He had solid strikes, look a lot
better than the previous match with Drake Yes. Shiloh at

(53:25):
one point like looked at him and my god, it
was like Mark Hammil's jokers laugh. It's like okay, it's like,
but yeah, you're you're like kind of crazy cool, but
you have a shitty song. Fuck Okay. You know he
was working the crowd, he was looking at them. He
had solid shot and you could see like right away
like Shiloh's like an agile at big men. Cannonball to

(53:48):
the outside, you know from the apron looked good. Arlem
catched him in a safe way. The cut off with
such like our great back elbow and rolled up to
the outside and then he started the heat. I love
that Arlem. Like the more people were like talking shit
to him and like boo whatever, it felt like he

(54:10):
was embracing the hate. I was like, this is a heel.
He went for a nice gutthridge backbreaker into a running
boot death. Oh my god. Taker goes like, well, he's
gonna eat the sunflower just for that one. We were talking.
I was talking about innovative offense. That was more stuff
new from from Arlem that he was doing, and I

(54:32):
love this. He went into a half nelson into a backbreaker,
and you know, he was kind of barking and like intense,
and he was hitting himself like like kind of get motivated.
It was like little things that he hadn't in this
match that made his character so much complete, like a

(54:54):
lot more like it was like, oh, he's almost there,
like really, and he like his moves were cool. He
was not selling it as they were cool, like it's
he still look heal. Sometimes there's gonna be like heels
that are gonna do like super cool moves and they
let people fucking clap them. A Rollin's for example, okay,

(55:17):
like you're not supposed to. You're supposed to fucking if
you do a fucking like.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Crowding zero champion Seth Rollins real quick. If only this
was a video show, folks and you could see.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Her face, we should do it video Really you've been
teasing me for like, this is not what happens. What
happens if Seth Rollins loses. Oh bet he's gonna take
over and paul Ayman keeps telling him I have a feeling, thenyway.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
Boys to put this on this YouTube with the video
function that it could happen. I mean, I mean I
do delete the zooms after a while, but I I
keep them long enough that I could send them.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
Why why he wins? So all this was for nothing?
Thank you? Fuck you anyway the man? Hey, yeah, speaking
going back to wherever before I say, Johnson, this should
have been in the main event. Thank you and JJ's styles. Okay,
let's go back to we see. You know there's a

(56:26):
home spot where he Harlem goes for a soup, Lex
rolls into a small pack he set and duck Ka
line into a neck breaker and then out of nowhere,
there was like no comeback that was like a mini
thing going on here with the the like the duck
line neck breaker, and I was like, that's it.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Yeah, it's like he's doing he's doing like he's like
doing the RKO out of nowhere, neck breaker out of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
You know, even like Randy Orton before he hits the
hard KO, he's gonna bump the guy a few times,
boom boom, get the crab into it. Maybe try something.
He's gonna get fuck up. He's gonna kick out something
something that whoop. Then the RKO. This is the whole
part where the babyface gets is due. The comeback was

(57:15):
not in this match. It was like, oh God, we
gotta go home. We gotta go home.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
It's like I was like, okay, so so I'm gonna
I'm gonna start at the at the back of my
notes here just because I literally tied neck breaker finished
hyphen not exactly out of nowhere, question mark question. So
we both had the same thing, all right, back back
to the back. Carlin came out like a killer. Shilow
comfortable once again. I know that that Harlem was better

(57:41):
on the outside of the ring than the inside of
the ring, not that he's bad on the inside the ring.
But I had a question for you because when they
were outside, you know, the coaches, I don't know if
they were being dramatic, but they're saying, oh, they're gonna
get it. They're gonna have a mark for that. There's
the receipt right there. Did you see anything that was
legitimately too stiff, because I honestly can't tell anymore.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
It was snugging, but not it was not. They're snug,
and there's stiff snuff snug. You're gonna feel it, but
it's not gonna hurt you in a way where the
next day you're gonna be injured. Stiff is something we're like, fuck,
Like I still feel it the next day. I like
I can't heat because my jaw's hurting so much. No,

(58:19):
they were snug. They were laying him in like seamous style,
like Ruth's style, Like it's fucking solid, but nobody's gonna
get injured from that. You know, that's a little bruise,
might have a little bruise, but you know, nothing serious
like who being Yeah, and it but it looked great.
So yeah, it's like they're selling it this way because

(58:40):
it looked real. It looks like they're fucking fighting. But
you know that's exactly like Gunter, that's the style I
like as well. I want to believe that this is
fucking legit, and I believe that they were doing a
great job. So and even if the coach are like, yeah, no,
that fucking looks good. Oh the fuck they're doing it?

(59:01):
Read John, Yeah no.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
I only the key to Koloff couldn't wrestle, Yes, he
could shut up anyway. So I so before we get
to it, also, Chris, I type it because it's on
the record that nobody can see except me, is that
I typed I give it to Shiloh, and so I
gave it to Shiloh. So then we see Sean with
the Legends and they start with the advocacy for the

(59:25):
women because the Legends.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Can I just can I just mention something from the
Silo match? Give you give it to Shiloh? Right? And
I felt that Shiloh got intense. He was really intense
on the way out of the match, and I felt
it was a too little too late. I felt there's
a part of the match where he was kind of following,

(59:49):
but not not that he was not because he was selling.
But I felt like if you compare the intensity Arlem
was giving you to Shiloh's, it's like, oh so much more,
so much more from the other guy. And I felt,
I really felt Harlem did the match. Everything Harlm did was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
I think the end did it for me, Like I
think that like they should have known. It was too
abrupt and even if you're like, we're really killed him
to pick him a watch and give him a brainbuster
which he's done before, and use as a finisher, like
it takes seven more seconds, you know, I mean, I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Or try a pin with his neck breaker doesn't work,
then hits this that it works, like he has to
use something else because our limb is so tough. So yeah,
there was the end was too abrupt, something missing fire
from the baby Face at least at least him trying
to pin ar limb doesn't work, doesn't work, fucking finally

(01:00:52):
gets it, Yes, you know, Babyface wins. Yeah, two out
of nowhere and not in a good way like a
heart and even that, like I said, r Kale Randy works.
The words is r KO. He attempts it, gets pushed,
something happens something, and then finally he gets it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
But no, it's not always exactly out of nowhere. A
lot of times he spends a lot of time on
his knees, pounding the mat three times beforehand, ya know.
Or he's outside the ring and he gives the crowd
and knowing look and they slides in really quickly and
does it. Yeah, I mean, I mean, of course, Randy
Orton is one of the best of all time. I mean,
if he's haunting everybody's top twenty five, you really don't
know what you're talking about. But yeah, I think, you know,

(01:01:35):
if Shilah is going to do this thing out of nowhere,
it should be more out of nowhere and be protected
as such. Or you know, if you want to do
it like you know, like Cody Rhoades, does you know
the three crossroads? Let him do three of them and
that takes the guy out of it. I'm not opposed
to repeating the same move if that's your move, if
that's what you think it's going to take to beat

(01:01:57):
up the big, bad, bad guy. But I give it
to Shiloh. You know, I think most of it's because
I still think Harlem is a little bit one dimensional
in the ring, and he's and he's too good outside
of the ring compared to how he is inside the
ring that can't be noticeable. You should, you should be
able to work both and he will. I have a

(01:02:18):
I'm a big Harlem fan. I was a heaf fan
of his involved the first time I saw him. I'm like,
I'm gonna like this guy. And you know, now thirty
you know some you know probably you know thirty Well,
it was just episode thirty two of Evolved, So thirty
two weeks later, I still do so that's good. Anyway,
show the legends that they're advocating as opposed to judging.

(01:02:40):
Bubba gave it to Danny. He thought that she had
the most full package and had improved the most. Booker
gave it to Panina. She definitely wrestles the Booker style.
Michelle gave it to her or her student, her team
member Panina, you know, not not outrageous, and Taker gave
it to his team member Danny. Then Sean used the

(01:03:02):
he thinks that you know, we need someone who can
fit into NXT right now, and you and I talked
about this last week exactly right now, and you both
agree that Panina fits a slot right now, right now.
So I'm not saying Danny didn't earn it. I I
I definitely feel like Danny earned it. But if the
if the context and the and the criteria is who

(01:03:23):
is something new and different that you don't have right now,
then it should have been Panina. By his own rule,
and I'm not advocating for this, but by his own rule,
Panina fits. They have Fea Hell, they have Kendall Gray,
they have like undersized women who who wrestle like they're

(01:03:43):
not undersized women. So I like Danny, I like we
both like Danny liked the whole time. I'm the one
who was wondering why Panina was so dominant. I didn't
think that she was so much better than an he was.
I have no problem with Danny winning. I want I
want to get twisted. But by Shawn's criteria, he made
the wrong call.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I think so too, because you know, one thing, one
thing that Michelle mentioned and I was like, yes, that's
exactly why it should have been Panina. She's unique, she
has a presence, but she has consistency.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Like all her matches were okay to good and Danny
had there's some matches where we were like not looking
at the crowd. Is she feel as she faced, I
don't know what the fuck was going on. And there's
some she did really good, like the Lucia door spot
and whatever. So but I felt when you talk about,

(01:04:39):
you know, being unique presence and consistency, there was like
no one else than Panina and she had all the
points for a reason. And right now, like you said,
there's tons of people like Danny, but big girls that
can move. There's last legends and once in a while
they're gonna bring Naya Jacks, but she's e and they

(01:05:00):
just lost Piper Nivid. They need they need bigger women
right now, right the fuck now, tomorrow a night if
there's a fucking show, And they picked the little girl
that looks like everybody else and that you mentioned some
of them are already.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
But she's not Alexa Bliss or Live with Morgan hop
you know, it's like so again deserving. I just don't
really get it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
And little Morgan is such a character, Like what made
Live Morgan is how she finally found the fucking character
because she she was terrible in the fucking riot squad.
This whole fucking thing was faith. Yeah, and after when
she was by herself and she had little eyes crying.

(01:05:49):
I'm like, dude, like, you're not like and finally when
she became a heel and she was like, I was like,
fuck yeah, like I love finally like I love. But yeah,
they have Live Morgan all right, and she's fucking great
and she's gonna come back a royal rouble.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Probably they've had Roxham part also, I mean they get
they like I said, so, you know, p nasty though
in her in her in her outro excellent. She goes,
I ain't Cinderella. I don't need a perfect ending, you
know that perfect penasty greatcoat and and and damn right
you're not, and you don't then you'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Yeah, and you know, Sean goes like again like just
to go back on this decision, He goes, I need
someone who can step in right now with the women's division,
and like, if we're looking at the last match, most
of Danny's big moves were very sloppy. The the you know,
the Crucifix was sloppy, The Frock Flash was sloppy, the

(01:06:49):
Tornado DDT.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
I'm like, Hell's Gate a little takes a little bit
too much to put on, and she doesn't really get it.
On all the way she doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
I was like, you're saying something, but then the decision
is completely different to what he's saying. And it was
the same fucking thing for the met He did the
same fucking thing for the man. So you know, speaking
of Arlem and Arl Lewis and Shiloh, hill Taker goes,

(01:07:20):
you know he because he took every advantage, like he
took advantage of every occasion. He's so intense and you
know the mess was intense. They were both opposite work well,
but I gotta go with Shiloh. So he picks this
guy and I think take her right from the beginning,
like he wanted Chilo in the finals, Like I don't
even think he even thought about Drake becoming so good.

(01:07:45):
So yeah, I think it was his mind was made
from the start, which was like because we saw Shiloh
having bad matches and he picked them anyway, and it
was like no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Only he did he pulled a Bubba and Zena except
except for Takr that better. But take her also, that's
why he has more influence over other people than Bubba does.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
He's also the way he I wouldn't say protect, but
the way he pushes Shiloh is more subtle than the
paba and Zina calling her the meal ticket, So maybe
that's why. Like, but yeah, he's less.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Carney, he's less he's more like the you know, the guy,
but the guy for a guy who's six foot eight,
he's like the guy behind the curtain, you know. He's
like the quiet sinerster voice behind whispering into ears. Yeah,
and is the Seawan whisperer.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
So we go to his his lovely wife Michelle. She says,
both already, Arlemb scares me. He's believable, he's intense, and
therefore she chooses Arlon Bubba is like, it's really a tie.
But Arlemb could use more time to learn how to
communicate better with his fellow worker, which you feels Shyloh

(01:09:07):
can do at this moment.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
So he agree with that. Has a lot of good insights,
and when he's not being team Bubba, he has a
lot of even sometimes then too, but when he's not.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Being he's really smart. He's yeah, he has a great
fucking brain for this, and he's pretty much on the
money on this one.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Yeah, there's someone who, like you know a lot of
people from a certain company criticized a lot. If they
actually hired him internally to take the pencils. God, they
actually have a much better show.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Well, things will start to make sense if Bubba was
in charge. But they don't want someone to tell them
what to do.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
So hey, well there's a heat, but he doesn't want
to tize the them them has rotated to an extent,
you know, but there's only one him. I don't you've
hit It's a different that's a different show. Joey.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Yeah, yeah, I'm probably overdue.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
I really have had enough. Me. I'm nobody who cares
about me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
It's oh, stop it. So Booker goes. Silo did a
great job. But Arlem is intense, you know the look
on his space. He learns quickly, so he picks Harlem.
So it's it's a tie. When it comes to the coaches,
it's too far all up, I know, Arlem says, like

(01:10:37):
he's almost like feeling uncomfortable waiting for the decision, like
it's it's and Shiloh, He's like he's more nervous than
all the matches he had like put together. So so
Sean raves about the development of Rlem that he had,
like he that how better. He became in such a short.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Time gaffs when he comes out, Yeah, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
That's the word you use. And then that's fucking something
special he goes. People are intimidating. He's one scary of
a bitch, which means he's money money, money, money, money, money,
and what do what does t k O want? Money?

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Money, money, money, money, lots and lots of money.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
What's the shame?

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
All the money?

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Here comes the money money, Harry o Key is our
next show.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
I can sing Dusty Roades song pretty good and vintage
w c W.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
And I can dance like Vincement Man and Land of
a Thousands, Oh wonderful. I've actually, if I tried that,
like every part of my like my spine, would be
in seventeen different directions.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
In bed for a week.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
At least, like a like a like a plutonium week.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Except so looks at you know, looks at Shiloh. He's
like he's put in the time, he's put in the effort.
He has grown a lot, and he can he but
you know, looking at both of them, he needs someone
that he can plug in right now, right now, right now,

(01:12:22):
you know. And here's where I'm confused, He's like, you know,
I could plug in, Like there's nobody as intimidating as
ar Limb and and he goes like, but you know,
Shiloh is is pretty crazy looking when he wants to Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
He said, he's pretty damn crazy too, pretty great, damn
crazy looking. He says, you're right, and then you could
tell he's lying because he looks away from the camera
and from both guys and awards it to Shilah yep now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:52):
And I'm like, you you just raved about how great,
unique and fucking different and.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
How much money is Arlem Lewis, you give it to Shiloh?
What the fuck? I was like, Oh, but he's pretty
crazy looking. It's like, oh, I had made my mind
before because that's what I wanted from this fucking season.
Here you go. I was like when I was talking
about Festivus, That's what I mean. I'm like, dude, you

(01:13:26):
and what kind.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Of I am glad that I'm several hundred miles away
from you right now?

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
And no, but it upsets me because it's something that
I've lived before where someone says like you're so good
your money, everything you do, you're perfect. But hey, I'm
gonna sign her and hey, this she's gonna have the opportunity.
And You're like, what's wrong with me? She just told
me I'm fucking perfect. What do I need to work.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
On in defense with Sean? I want to give a
little defense to Sean one. Shiloh has the crazy eyes,
the crazy face he is. I think mentally he's more
mature and more grounded than Harlem is. I think that's
important if you're gonna put someone on TV right away.

(01:14:10):
Harlem is sending him to Noah. They haven't given up
on him. I also think Shiloh's like six' four six.'
five if you LOOK, at nxt there's a few. Big
guys most of them are Sort, Of, Obafemi, Cyrus, Griffin
truck williams has got himself to. Be jacked it's like

(01:14:31):
they have like they have, a light Really Nice, Jasper
troy they have a really nice continuity because but most
of them Are like eve even like YOU know Tv
on heights is in That Big charlie dempsey is is a.
Little Guy miles bourne is a. Little Guy di angelo
family hasn't. Been seen NOT that i Believe, in STACKS

(01:14:52):
but i Think the nico could BE something i don't
Know Where tony. DiAngelo is i figure they're making a
new character for him on the, main roster. Long overdue
but he's also not, a tall. Tall guy they don't
have another like six, foot four six, foot five franctly.
White guy, you need you need to have a, white
guy you know. On wrestling there's a lot of white

(01:15:13):
people that watch, wrestling too, you know, you know and
and everyone likes to. See THEMSELVES and i know on
the main roster it's been mostly White and samoan dominated
for for a. Long time BUT, IN nxt, i mean,
You Know alfred kunoa says CALLS It nxt africa and so.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
And you, know what. It's great it's about time because
there was not, enough agreed, not enough and there were,
great athletes THERE'S there's i, was like they need it
doesn't fucking matter what color, they are but you need
fucking that's sort of does? You need well? IT it
i mean?

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
It does you need a, variety show you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Need everything you need someone that when somebody's sitting in
front OF their tv they can rely too AND say
i want to be like him because he's like me
or she's. Like me that's. Very IMPORTANT what i SAY
when i say color, DOESN'T matter i mean in terms, Of,
talent yeah you know it's, they're good fucking go ahead

(01:16:14):
like do something. With them and, but yeah you need
you need. Fucking culture it makes the show interrestling and
makes it makes it, like colorful but not not in
terms of, skim color but of you. Know, different yeah cultures.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Is different music, is different and. Different. Approaches yes the
other Thing about shiloh is that he has a really
good social. Media presence he has more followers on x
than any of THE other lfg OR of ove people
by far because he. Makes content he makes. Original content
he's got that, Game down like he's like Someone like.

(01:16:51):
Drew McIntyre you can, JUST say i trust you with social.
Media content just do, your. Thing kid so he's he's
developed a following like outside, of wrestling, beyond wrestling just
because he's so interesting and so and like. He does
he's got such, a personality so, you know he's more
of already made television thing and he does to the

(01:17:11):
spot and a size that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
They need this is something He should sean should, have
said because here's. The thing he kept like saying How great,
arlem was but he didn't tell Me why shiloh is.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
So, great, yeah no he just skipped. TO it i
think he was Afraid that harlem might.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
Hit, Him maybe but if You, choose shilo you gotta tell.
Me why as, a viewer you just told Me how
arlem is, fucking, amazing intimidating there's no one like him.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
His money, but, then Oh, To shiloh, i'm, like wow
he made up your.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
He made up on a very superficial but less superficial
than before. A standpoint i'm the main roster on people
who were between five nine and six feet tall and
between two forty and like two said. Seventy five you Have,
both russo's their younger Brother Solo, jacob fatu you Have,
brown breaker you Have Russev rich holland is somewhere around,

(01:18:12):
you know you have you have like you have like
all of these guys that basically fit the same. Body
type and basically here's.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
The thing though they need something FOR. N xt not
not main roster. Right now it's just IT'S just i
felt That and i'm Not saying shiloh is not deserving because,
you know you just gave me a bunch of reasons why,
He is like because he's, you know he's he's a.

(01:18:39):
Great guy he's, very present you, know online he he's
he's already mastering, you know the, you know how to
get along and how to get like love BY d.
Ww universe these are a really important point why. It's
him But when seawan says why He, picks shiloh he doesn't,

(01:19:01):
explain why but he tells me How great. Arlem IS
so i felt that it was kind of shitty and.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
And yeah basically gave him a full body massage and
then threw him out the.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Back, door exactly it's, not, okay now get the. Fuck
out and that's that's what. Bothered me if If, IT'S shiloh,
i mean you're. The boss you want people to you
want people to understand how it's it's hard to BECOME
a wwe wrestler superstar and you know the work, behind

(01:19:32):
it because, you know the more. You explain there's ONE
THING i I SINCE i i was involved in a
bunch of documentaries lately with, involving wrestling and people who
do not watch wrestling are amazed by the work that
is needed to get through. A. Match right people then know,

(01:19:54):
the secrets but now that they're out and when they're
explained to them and they see how, you know you
got to put a match together within ten minutes and
then what's? Your move what's my and you just go
out there and you do it and you have a
character and your gear. And everything it's it's so much
work and people are appreciating wrestling so much more when

(01:20:15):
they know this because it's not a. Clown show it's
not two guys or girls beating the shit out of
each other because they're stupid and they can't do anything else.
In life there's a lot of work and things to.
Think about and, you know when you have a show,
like this that's the thing you need to show people
why you know only a few? Are chosen why?

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
You know because it goes with who do you need now?
For what and what did they bring to. The table
there's a lot of things you. TOLD me i didn't
Know about chilo because nobody freaking told ME. During nxt and, You,
know shiloh you've grown so much from season one. To,
two okay how how he's better at working at, The

(01:21:02):
crowd he's been better, at promos he's, good online he's
got a. Good attitude but since we see nothing of
the training and nothing of what's. Going on we don't know.
These things and.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
If he's the pre producers. Call us we have some
thoughts to make it a bit MORE entertaining.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Tv show not only it's, more entertaining but it brings
more respect to the craft of being a professional wrestler
when you show how fucking hard. It is and, you
know why did You choose chilo because he, checks, this, this, this, this, this,
this this the fucking twenty boxes Right and ChIL and

(01:21:39):
arlem right now is that it's, at, fifteen right you
know you Need To, Marlon No HE'S I'M i, I
like i completely agree With Everything sean michael said, about
him and that he got better and And and booker
like says like he's, always intense like you look at,
His face like he. Learns quickly. You know, Michelle says

(01:22:03):
i'm scared, of him and that's. Something special when a
rustler can project fear to the, fucking crowd. It's special so.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
It's, an insider especially someone who's married To. The UNDERTAKER.

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
But i thought it was great that she said that
it's important when you wrestling is about making people. Feel
things and if this guy just by coming out and
looking at you like you fear for. Your life, oh,
no sorry that just. Right there there's something special, about him, and,

(01:22:40):
LIKE yeah i feel like my frustration is just like
it's about the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Whole, Show, well houston you had, a problem and that's
why they're calling This the houston. Screw job and it
continues it maybe not to the extent, of reality but
it gets Worse because shaun addresses the coaches and he
AWARDS The lfg Championship, to michelle who maybe had more Points.
THAN undertaker i, don't know but when both of your

(01:23:08):
team members win and three out of the four people
who have won, Our, team taker how it does he
not win? That championship and why did they stop showing
us the? Captain points, you know if this is up
so And poor undertaker is making this Place like i'm
never going to hear the end, of this, but like
this is not about the boys rule girls drooled. TO
me i mean if both if both people from your

(01:23:31):
team win and one of your students was basically in
the in the semi finals, as well then there might
have been more, YOU know, i mean you're, you know
you win win both your when two out four of your,
members win you win. The competition that that's how goes you.
Win championships like IN. The nfl if a team goes

(01:23:54):
like fourteen and two but Loses The, super bowl the
team that won twelve and four Wins The super bowl
still Won The. Super bowl. Mm hmm THAT'S why i THINK.

Speaker 2 (01:24:01):
It's i think they need to rework the, point SYSTEM
and i feel they need judges that are not the,
fucking coaches like they NEED like i, Don't, Know Biggie
have biggie be. A JUDGE have i, Don't Know, charlotte
flair have fucking people who've done this for, a while

(01:24:24):
And Or, William regal Have Fucking william regal be? A
judge or why Not Using mad bloom or You know
brookside have the. Other, COACHES yeah, i mean give, the
points just vote for your own. Fucking things you're not
getting one.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
Hundred thousand you're not getting like three hundred thousand People
watching justice the. Undertakers on you're getting one hundred, thousand viewers,
sometimes less sometimes a little. Bit more but clearly having
these all stars as your coaches. Doesn't matter the show
is going to attract seventy to one hundred and twenty
thousand viewers on, A average so you Don't need undertaker.
For this let him Work ON. Triple a why Is DOING?

(01:25:03):
TRIPLE a i don't, like yet but. Let him, let
him let him do. His thing, You know Bubba. FINE
booker I find booker to. Be amusing you can never
sell me on Too. Much booker, You know michelle. WAS
fine i, YOU know i just, you Know Bring mickey?
James man? WHY not, i mean but, You're right why
why not have you have? Rotating judges like there's? Two

(01:25:23):
judges why not? Two girls?

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
Two guys why not half?

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
And?

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Half?

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Right yeah and why not hear them with People who
You have titus O'Neill out there, doing things You have bigie.
Doing things put them. In there You Have mickey james on,
the sideline so she can be with with, You know
bubba or you know whomever.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
They're there how about Here's One, Medusa mitchelli.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Medusa great?

Speaker 2 (01:25:48):
My god why You Know jacqueline moore still and you
know who's? A Coach? Molly, Holly No molly Holly And.
Medusa mitchelli these are your two.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
FEMALE coaches, I mean I will i will assume that
maybe some of these folks are actually too busy with
their duties at the performance center that they can't also.
Do this, but but but But but doucial, is available ready.
To go ivory is, Still around missus. STILL around i
mean they're all all.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
Of Faders, oh jazz please fuck, do something but please
put her in the.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
STILL around, i mean she'll have to find me a new,
co host but but she's, still around, you know or
maybe make the show internal W w hl.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Sign now, YOU know i have no Problem with michelle
winning in a WAY that i felt throughout the the.
Whole season, you know she had. Good contestants i'm thinking About.
P nasty i'm Thinking About anthony luke and people that
you know they could have won the, win this Like

(01:26:54):
both Panina. AND antony I Feel anthony luke should BE on.
TV tomorrow. I don't i hope they don't put him
ON on. Lfg three he should BE on nxt right,
fucking now right, fucking now.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Don't or at, least evolve just fast track. ON.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Something nxt he's HE'S an, Xt material he's ready. Right
now he has the, fucking face he has, the moves
he places himself for the next movie he understands where
he needs, to be.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
Or if you're not ready to put HIM on, nxt
yet LOAN, into, tna, yes right AND work Tna AND
triple a and and learn some, different styles work with
some different people and show what you got and then
COME down xt in seven Months when Oba and tripp
are on the. Main, roster yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
They Even sent naddy tonn, W a hey have him Go,
work murdoch You, Know latimer and there's a lot Of
Like Haron's. Mike knox there's a lot of guys who
can teach him a lot of STUFF, At nwa, like fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
THERE'S three i know if people DON'T like, ec three
but he knows how.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
To, Wrestle YEAH and i mean that WOULD be i
feel that would be Great For. ANTHONY luke I don't
i would almost feel like fucking sad for him if
he's ON l a, you KNOW l.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
Fg three, oh, yeah no he, shouldn't be not l.
THREE three, i mean and it's he's DESERVING, of nxt,
you know let's let's say that. For SURE and i
feel the same way About p NASTY and i sort
of Feel Like drake moreau doesn't need to be fooling
around on this ship anymore either the like if he's,

(01:28:25):
IN involved i don't think it's a. Big INSULT but
i but, you know readly.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
New people bring new people next For, NEXT yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
I don't i want to see the same. People over
Listen If cutler james can BE, An Nxc drake morrow
can be AN.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Nx a you, Know WHAT i've I watched nxt in
some of the names, YOU'RE mentioning i don't. Even remember because.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
He's the white Guy In.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Dark, state okay he's. A, ray.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
Yeah he's the guy who replaced who's the Planted dukk
ra and they apparently hate each.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
Other about him and the.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
Other thing he's the guy that for six weeks would
make awkward, like assos and then they stopped doing that
because they realized that it was like stupid, and juvenile and,
you know you stop making jokes, like that like after,
you know forty year old virgin unless You're On, family
guy and then. It's, okay, Anyway, people yes this might

(01:29:16):
be the end of, season two but it's not the end,
for us because we're going to do a retrospective With Doctor,
gina poissan who's going to help them pronouncing your, name
correctly but she'll she will correct me, before this and
we will do one more show with a retrospective to
see how our dime store psychology as to the headspaces
of the contestants and the coaching methods of the coaches

(01:29:37):
matches with. Actual psychology, so hopefully well we'll record that
at some point. This week we'll figure. That out so
you'll get two shows hopefully within like a ten, day
period if not sooner. From us and, AFTER that i
don't KNOW when lfg season, three starts but there's been
other to talk about YOU and i because apparently people

(01:29:58):
like YOU and i as the taking probably, mostly you
and they just tolerate me and with.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
People people if you like, the show we'd like. To
know we'd like, to.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
Know comment somewhere, you really we, Really would we really
would like. To know and if you like, her more,
THAT'S okay i like her. More too you like us to?

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
Do?

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
Video? Maybe yeah speaking, Of, video hey subscribe to The Wrestlink,
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you can follow me On ex Apple, Of fisto facebook,
Dot com Slash the Fisto Follow Women's. Wrestling, Syndicate well
i'm gonna start posting matches from our next or last show,
pretty SOON and i have, other socials but it doesn't
really matter if there's. Too many, I'm no i'm not
going to bother you. With this i'm just, GONNA say
i just saw yesterday The, movie Lunatic the. Lunavashan story

(01:31:06):
please go out of your way to find a way to.
See this it is. A mussy It's from. Canadian producer She's.
From vancouver she's a, Former Wrestler. Kate crow it is
absolutely it's like people were crying in the fucking sound,
the garden the thought that would BE and, i mean

(01:31:28):
it's it's such a great movie that shows what women
have to go through in the years before the evolution
quote unquote you know started and. The difficulties and it's
also a story about dealing with mental health and, you know,

(01:31:50):
taking medication not, taking it going being bipolar up and
down and not controlling what. You're doing it's, it's heavy
but it's definitely a must see, in there you see
and it was filmed before it Happened That kevin sullivan's,
In There butcher vashan is. In there you'll See also

(01:32:12):
Dave he gangrel. Great, stuff honestly Go. See lunatic find
A way Lunatic The luna. Vashon story she deserves all
the love and, her story, you know it deserves to
be to.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
Be known and as we learn of ways that you
can see, the movie we'll will promote that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
On ourselves, I'll, Try yeah i'll try to post where
you can, see it, And yeah Lunatic The lunovishon Story By.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
Kate, cole, OKAY well i feel so trivial with. Following
that but if you want to follow me on THE
X At Dose, underscore evil my podcast Are called Garden.
OF thought i would really like it if you. WOULD
subscribe i would love it if you. Would listen but
if you don't want, to listen but you just want
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there's a little Button on apple probably some of the
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PLAY now i would prefer that you LISTEN and i
do believe that there's something for. Everybody there not every
show is, for EVERYONE but i do think if you
get used, to it and if you've been listening to
me for fifteen weeks on, this show you obviously. YOU can't,
i mean you can't hate me. That MUCH so i

(01:33:26):
could use a little. Sport there and if you are
actually in, the business if you are a worker, IN
wrestling i please make. YOURSELF known i love having guests
On the Gospel of, thomas show where You know thomas
has been The mister THOMAS. From Mlw carol kwan has
co hosted a couple. Of Times Even Vinnie pacifico lou's

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been on once as sort of a sort of guest slash,
co host And also Zeke the free because indicated they
think he's going to. Be on so a lot of
guests sort of turned into, co hosts which makes it
easier for the wrestlers with their schedules and and, you
know nobody really likes, the book, including me but AT
least i have to because it's. My job, but anyway.
That's enough Go see lunatic or find a way To.

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See lunatic thanks for. Supporting us you're gonna get one
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