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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I haven't even heard about it. Why does Texas have
an NDA against Tony Kahan, Well.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Not against him, but for whatever they when they did,
what was it all out or whatever? All in all out?
Shake it all about? I guess they tried to make
the stadium itself sign an NDA that said that they
sold twenty five thousand tickets. Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
And they actually, well, actually that it was more than that,
didn't They say that they sold like thirty thousand or
almost thirty thousand, but it was a lot less. I
actually had the number pulled up earlier, and I threw
that news away because I'm like, God, Joe doesn't give
a shit about this. No Joe talk about goddamn aw
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house numbers.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Well, this is the problem in this situation. The vast
majority of the time, I don't give a flying fuck
about anything aw related because it's just it's it's dead.
The whole thing's dead. But a story like that is
just fucking too funny, Like that's prime comedy, Like what
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do you do with the fat that? Now, this dude
has gotten to a point where he's trying to make actual,
real companies and businesses lie on his behalf on something
to the level of people have to report on their
taxes to this, Like the people that run that stadium
can't lie about how many people lying for years.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
We've been calling out their lies for years. I mean,
even going back to fucking London. Like this company is
it has a foundation of lying. Look at the way
that they treat their employees, let alone what they're saying
about the fans. It's you're right, it's another comical excuse
to make fun of AAW for miss appropriating the numbers.
(01:54):
But I mean, I go back and I remember when
that Fox Sports executive put Tony in his place and said, no,
your company actually only did this many and he's like, no,
well it didn't because we did so many numbers here.
And then you have guys like Dave Meltzer that are
sucking at the teat of Tony Kahan, lying bold face
to everyone saying that they're doing five million a week. Guys,
(02:18):
five million people are watching AAW week. And now you
have the new Nielsen system coming out that's just going
to embarrass the shit out of a company. Like it's
getting to the point that they can try and lie
as much as they want. But the reality is is
as technology grows and people are more aware of how
sensitive aw As a company is about their numbers. More
(02:39):
truth is coming out, dude. For a year, how many
years was it when people would sit there and take
pictures of half the audience not being there, and just
all these aw fucking sickos would write, I was taken
before this show. Well no, actually there's a current angle
in the middle of Dynamite.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Omega in the ring and he was a semi main event.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, it's photoshopps that that's photoshop. That didn't happen. I
was there, I saw so many people. It's like, okay, all.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Right, sure it's deeply, deeply sad, but that one, to
me is the most interesting of the lies that have
popped up recently. And the only reason why I feel
like it even needs to remotely be covered is because
it's an instance of moving away from the wrestling world
where you have obviously like Meltzer, your SAPs or these
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guys that have to like feign that this shit's still
popular or important to the place of now we're trying
to get real venues and big companies and like these people,
like I said, they have to report to accountants and
the state and they're like, can you just lie for us?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Right?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Can you just do that for us? On on on paper?
Can you just And it's like no, they they can't
because they're a real company. And if they say that
there were five thousand more people there than there were,
someone's gonna come knock knock knocking on their door and
say where's the money. Oh yeah, where's the money for that?
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And they're gonna have to go, oh, no, we lied,
and then that's called a crime. So it's just insanely
funny in that instance because it's once again like someone
with a little kid baby brain not realizing what they're
doing can lead to somebody getting like seriously fucked up.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
But it's not just that. It goes also to that
NEPO baby status where imagine how long he's gone unchecked
to the point where now it takes somebody to stand
up like Texas and say, dude, you're full of shit
in order, I mean, how many other cities has he
done that? In Cleveland? Chicago?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Oh I don't, well, well this is where I saw
to worry though up. Worry got me. I don't give
a shit. It's not gonna affect my life, but I
start to wonder where, like you said, did this happen
in other cities or has he hit this point where
those big venue shows in his mind means so much
more than the week to week shit that he just
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went into panic mode and was like, Hey, can I
make you guys sign a thing and bag you off
to lie about it? Right? Which it's like, he's probably
not doing that at the what's it called the Aardon Ballroom,
that was the name of it. Like, he's probably not
doing that in Chicago. He's probably not doing that at
the little MGM hall that he ran in Boston. Right.
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But in this instance, which once again makes it even crazier,
he probably.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Doesn't have to win the smaller venues because that's where
AW belongs.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, and it looks good like that to me is
still like.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well you say that, but I remember so much fucking
flack with them doing the smaller shows, and it's I
think it's more along the lae of people just kind
of throwing it back in his face for all those
for all those horrible WWE shots over the years. I'm
not sure I would just assume that that's why people
bust the balls of AW when they play smaller venues,
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but as far as what they should be doing, that's
where they belong. It's not a bad thing. It's just
accept what you are and move on.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
And that's the problem in this situation is that had
they just been okay with this and steady built on shit,
they would be able to have at least some goodwill
or so or good will. Yeah, yeah, I mean that
somebody keeps putting up the different versions of it. Did
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you see that they dropped the ratings for this NXT
and Dynamite over the past two days?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah? Yeah, that shit, that's what was it?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Like?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
A six hundred and twenty five thousand for NXT and
three hundred and twenty one for Dynamite.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah. What how do you defend that?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Because it was on a different day? Oh good god,
because people forgot or didn't know that it was on
a different day. Ergo, the ratings are poor. Well, like
these die hard fans, right, these die hard sickos that
will correct anybody on any level if they say anything
remotely slided or incorrect about AAW apparently just can't watch
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wrestling on Tuesdays, just can't support the company if it's
not in the middle of the week.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, they got they have something going on. I don't
know what it could possibly be, but you're right, yeah,
that whole twenty four hour difference. But no, like every
single time they do this type of shit whatever that
moves to a different day and the ratings drop by
x amount or whatever would be, that's usually the true
telling if what their real audience is, right, because like
(07:47):
you said, those are the people that hell or high
water they're going to watch the show. So ye, three
hundred and twenty thousand people. So if they have three
hundred and twenty thousand peece that are like real diehard
fans throughout the entire country, that's not a death sentence.
It's not the worst thing I've ever heard, but it
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is if you're spending tens of millions of dollars well,
meanwhile pretending that you're a big, giant company that's huge
and massively popular.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
The TNA is far more competitive with AW at this
point than NXC. NXT is already above where ADW is
oh easily. I mean, that's not even an argument.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And like I watch one of the matches just because
it came up on my recommendations or whatever on YouTube
before we came on the show where I watched that
women's eight person whatever you would call it, match right,
the Survivor series deal, and half of them are the
TNA women, and well, that's happening. I'm going it's the
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iconic girls who are calling themselves something different, the precious
or something I don't fucking know. Then there's a girl
that looks like Sasha with boobs but does all the
lead of moves. It's really interesting and uh, Colonnie Jordan
and I'm like, Okay, maybe the people that are casually
watching WWE are going to recognize the iconics girls and
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Klannie Jordan who's on an XT and then across it's
like all NXT girls and it's doing double, right double
the fans that AW is doing. What is the what
is the argument anymore? At that point, there's.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Always an argument to be made, and that's that's the
thing is that they'll argue that the Nielsen ratings are
out of touch. They'll argue the fact that it's on
a different day. They'll argue in the fact that you know,
it's just it just wasn't a great week for the show,
but they're usually much better. Like there's always an excuse.
And that's the thing that you that we've both talked
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about that everybody's talked about with AW is there's always
an excuse, there's never any account of there's never any
responsibility taken. Tony Kahan lives behind his money, and this
is what you have to expect. Look, they had their
big debut right like you were just saying, lay Lazy
Lane made her big debut, and it's like nothing happened.
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There was no big pop, nobody knew, nobody cared. And
it's not that you know, AW doesn't have a bunch
of talented women or just talents or wrestlers in general.
It's that the company had such an aura of being
a mistake and making so many mistakes and just I
mean even from their social media presence to their fan base.
(10:37):
I don't fault anybody for watching AW and going ugh,
I'm done, or interacting on a AW redditz or social
media's and just just completely fed up with the type
of clientele that it attracts. It's not a great company.
It's the whole reason that I really stopped watching, other
than when I absolutely have to. There's nothing about this
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company that brings good will and I'm not saying that
WWE is on fire right now, and we'll get to
them in a second, because obviously we have Crown Jewel
in Perth tomorrow or Saturday morning.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, basically to mind, yeah, it's like basically it's barely
it's not even forty eight hours from now because it's
at god, it's at seven in the morning for you,
which is even crazier. You see, you got you've got
the upper hands for years and years because the pay
per views ended an hour earlier, right you. But now
now it's flipped right, yeah, Now here's here's my payback
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for you.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, get up. I can't wait till I go to
Arizona and have to get up at five in the
morning for this shit.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Oh yeah yeah right. Well, you know what I said
that about West Coast time in the past, where it's
like that's got to be cool for sports, you know,
like if you're if you're in the football you're into whatever.
You know, it's like where it's seven o'clock at night
over here where the hockey game starts, so the football
game starts at eight, It's like, oh cool, it starts
to five, all right, man, Like I can be in
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bed by fucking ten easy.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Right, right? Not you'd be wide eyed for the whole
for the whole game too, So.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, you're not fucking sitting there nodding off for trying
to make lunch for the next day or nothing. So
that's cool. But I guess this is one of those
rare instances where yeah, it kind of sucks, you know,
you go up in fucking five am to watch the
pay per view. But also with the exception of people
that are doing what we do, are there a lot
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of I don't imagine a lot of people doing that, right,
Like what level of a fan it's that invested in this,
you know, like it's like a man cody and seth rawlans.
I got to wake up at five thirty in the
morning and potentially one of the two days a week
that I get to sleep in if I'm monkey. You know,
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I don't know wrestling too for a mature audience. I
don't develop on it.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Rustling soup. I am Anthony Thomas. He is his excellency
Joe Numbers, And yeah, another week of a lot of
wrestling talk, a lot of little nitpicky news, a lot
of contract stuff and legal stuff. This week feels like
it's kind of dropping all around us and obviously Crown
Jewel and Perth. How's your week, Ben Man.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I'm surviving. That's one of those times it's just getting through.
I mean, it's you know what it is, and I
think this is just maybe it's uh, it's the fall, right,
so you'll have a really nice day and then you'll
have a day that sucks and it kind of switches off. Yeah,
that's what I notice in the fall, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
So it's like, well, the days get in short or two,
Like the night creeps in at five o'clock for me
and it's like, ah, here we go. I miss Yeah,
I miss the nice long days. Don't get me wrong.
I'm a night person, but I agree with you. I
I do like a little bit more sun than darkness.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
It a doctechus. It will be still, will be seventy
fucking degrees outside, and you'll go, what a lovely day.
And the next day it's like forty and you go
into work and nobody wants to be there because they
can few. Winter's cold fucking finger poking them in the nose,
just saying like I'm I'm coming for you. You're like, ah, God,
fucking damn it. But I guess at the same time,
(14:25):
at least at least I'm not getting on a plane
I guess going to Australia right now for thirty six hours,
like a lot of these fucking guys girls are you.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Know, yeah, I mean it could be worse, right, so
let me actu you go on. Sorry.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
I think of that right like when they were filming
the Raw. I don't remember where they were this week,
but when they're sitting there going all right, yeah, we're
going to Australia, and I'm like, man, imagine being one
of these guys and you're like, god, damn it, even
just knowing you got to sit on a plane for
that long. And it's not like you're going there for
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two weeks, you know, like you're going there probably for
two days or three days, and they're like, go back
on the fucking plane, you know, flying.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I would think that as a wrestler, it would be great,
all of a sudden, not having to wrestle at seven
o'clock or eight o'clock at night, all of a sudden,
wrestling in the morning. You know, if you get the
sleepies out your eyes, you can pretty much run that
whole day, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, I mean, well, the jet lag will kick the
shit out of you, but it's also I think.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
You through the whole thing though, right you should be five.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I'm so jealous of those people, man.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
That can sleep through it. Oh I'm one of those.
I could see right through a fucking plane ride.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
So well, that was it. Like one of my buddies
got deployed. He was in the you know, I can't
remember which. I think it was Afghanistan. And he's basically
narc elliptic. Like he's one of those people where you'll
be on a car ride with him, like you go
see a concert or something, and he'll be in the
back seat and you'll be talking to another buddy and
within three minutes of the ride, you're just hearing snoring
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out like a fucking light. So when he was flying
over there, I'm like, man, that's a hell of a flight.
And then I'm like, he'll be asleep within three minutes. Man,
here'll be fucking guy's farting and banging into him and
you'll like, you won't give a shit, he'll be out cold, right.
But yeah, no, I don't have that luxury. I think
that's that's got to be rough man to sit on
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that plane for like twenty four hours. You're there for
probably forty eight and then they're like, get back on,
let's go.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yeah, yeah, well let's get into it. So Crown Jewel
obviously Saturday morning, seven o'clock on the East coast, and
then whatever time or seven o'clock or eight o'clock eighty.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Oh yeah, eight am over here. Many still breakfast time,
still breakfast time.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
But I got a few matches on the card. We'll
start off with Roman reigns versus Brons and Reid in
an Australian continent or country street fight.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
In a euro Asia battles. Right, but dude, you have
to assume the way that this has kind of played out.
You got to give Bronson read a little something. But
now we're at this point where if they're running these
shows internationally and overseas, you just have to assume the
bigger stars gonna win.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Right, Yeah, I would agree with you, but they just
gave him brand new merch. He's in Australia, it's his fight,
it's his type of Oh yeah, you're right. It just
feels like the cards are kind of stacked in his
favor and since it is in an Australian street fight
and not just any other street fight, I would assume
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that that means Bronson has control over the rules, which
you know what I mean, Like this is gonna be
one of those matches where everything under the sun is
going to be thrown at Roman Rains and then Roman
Rains will finally yield and fall, you know what I mean.
I have no problem with that. I'm gonna say Bronson
retakes it, but it's gonna be one of those let's
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try and kill Roman reigns and see if he can
handle all the damn So.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, double power bombs and shield homages. Yeah, well, no,
I keep forgetting that. That's like he's from New z
Is he from New Zealand? H Is it Australia?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Is I think he is a Kiwi? Actually I'd have
to double check because I.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Feel like at this point there's a handful of wrestlers
that they have who are all from New Zealand, which
is really funny when you take into account. You know,
it's like, oh, yeah, they got a handful of people
from Ireland and you're like, oh, that's uh, you know,
but it is New Zealand. It's like, oh, okay, now he's.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
From Adelaide, South Australia.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Okay, oh okay, yeah, so you know what then I
guess if he wins that I can go with.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
But yeah, there's somebody else on the roster. There's somebody
else on the roster that's a Kiwi though too. There's
a few on there.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Grayson Waller, right, isn't he?
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Is he? Yeah? Obviously? Ripley right?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
So Ripley Yeah, yeah, this is well, that's what I
was thinking. I'm like, they got a handful of people
over there, which is Ria on this card? That No,
she's got to be doing something right, Yeah? Oh oh
there she is. Yes, she's in the tag match. I
didn't see it. I forgot about that. That's fine. I
was like, Jesus Christ, if they wouldn't have her on there,
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that would be that'd be goddamn wild.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
So will you pick guys or Bronson Reid?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Honestly, yeah, he kind of sold me on that. I forgot.
He's talking, we're talking his home country, right. It's going
to be the opener, which I don't like when they
put heels over in the opener. But it's going to
be a forty five minute long opener.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
You know that, right, Well, his entrance is alone, so yeah,
the fucking opener.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Let's put it this way. The show is going to
start and the opener is going to take so long
McDonald's breakfast will stop serving by the time the opener
is done, you know, right, Yeah, you're right. I'm going
with Bronson that that way too much, way too much
involved in that.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
You know, well, next match and the Carlott's talk about
it Ria and Eo Sky versus the Kabuki Warriors of
Oscar and Kyrie Sane in a tag team match.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Well, all things considered, I think you put the OSSI
over in this again. But you have Rhea pined Kyrie.
You know, that's the way you go with that situation.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Obviously, I hope they don't. I hope Oscar and Kyrie win. Yeah,
I feel like they have the stronger storyline and there's
more to be squeezed out of this, especially with the
recent turn on Heo and the way that Kyrie's going.
I mean, it could be that moment where Kyrie turns
on Osca and she doesn't want Oscar to beat Eosky
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into a fucking pulp or something, and you have that
moment where Oscar flips out on everybody. I could see
that happening storyline wise, but I don't know, I'm not
I'm not ready to say goodbye to Oscar and Kyrie
versus EO and Rio Ripley. I kind of hope they
milk this a little bit longer because I guess I
kind of don't want it to end at a Crown Jewel.
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I'd rather end it somewhere in the morning, right, can
they and this feudure somewhere significant with like you know,
I don't know, maybe that's just me. I mean, you're right,
they could absolutely just end it on fucking Saturday morning
and we don't talk about it till Monday and then
that's it, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
So well, there's also the element of it too, and
I keep forgetting seen as seen as your main event,
seen as having one of his last matches, as long
as he goes over the idea at that point as
everybody goes home happy. So you can just have the
heels go over almost every single match or basically every
single match, and it doesn't matter as long as John
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Cena leaves with the sand raised, you know. Yeah, so
we'll see I you know what, this might be a
heel heavy show just because of that alone. So maybe
you're right. I'll go with uh, I'll go the KABOOKI.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Okay, cool?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, because you know what that is if if they
have an interest in actually keeping this going in any capacity.
I'm seeing people saying they have a YO turn. Maybe
that's the deal. But if you have oh no, she
already did the fucking missed on her, So you don't
want to have Ria get hit with the missed again
at home. See, that would have been the move to
have Ria get fucking missed it in her home country.
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You get some real heat on Osca, you give Ria
the out, but they already did that.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Well, Honestly, the thought that I thought was Ria missing Osca. Oh,
I thought that would have been a nice change of
events because I was thinking about that earlier too. I'm like, well,
we know Oscar uses it wouldn't it be interesting if
Ria Ripley were ill missed it Osca? You know?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Except the only difference is in that scenario is there's
a lot of men that would be paying Ria to
spit in their faces.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
You know, I don't care what color it is, just uh,
like you're blind. Oh, I can see well.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Enough, I see where it counts.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, yeah, I see what I like. Uh yeah, no,
maybe this is one of those things where you have
Oscar either hit with the gimmick, you know, like, maybe
that's what you do. You have Oscar Pino in this
situation at the behest of trying to save rhyah. I
guess that might be the move, but no more than
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like the heels, going with the heels on this one,
that seems like the move.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, it's a Stephanie a vacuum. Yeah, you might have
heard of her versus Tiffany Stratton in a singles match
for the Women's Crown Jewel Championship. Both women are champions
themselves with the Raw and the SmackDown Women's Championship. Actually,
this is a pretty title heavy match when you really
look at it. It's like, you know, obviously both of
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them are current champion holders, but also doing it for
the Women's Crown Jewel Championship might be the first women's
match in a while that feels like it actually has validation.
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, well I can say this and I will be
completely an utterly bias in this. They need to put
Stephanie vacor over on this, and they need to move
away from Tiffany as the champion because she looks like
a scared puppy. Every time she's been on television for
the past like four or five months, right, every single time,
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she's gotten more progressively nervous looking. And for what it's worth,
Stephanie Forkor obviously, other than the fact that she can
work her ass off and what an ass it is,
there's something to the fact that Tiffany at this point
should have been getting actively better and instead she seemingly
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continues to regress, and it's probably time to you know,
push put her to the back a little bit, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I mean, obviously Stephanie is the one that it seems
like is more than just a fan favorite, but she
definitely seems like the person that's going to be leading
the charge for the women, for the next generation of
women in this company. So I kind of have this
vibe that between the two, which is it really is
when you look at both sides of the spectrum on this,
both of these women should be should be the staple
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of what the next generation of women's wrestler in WWE is.
But you're right, Tiffy's kind of fallen off. Tiff He's
never really recovered from WrestleMania. I think right now too,
with the idea of her and Nikki Bella maybe doing
something together is just kind of ha ha made.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, that sounds that sounds like a joy.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah. I just which is said, because there was a
point in time where it was like, Wow, Tiffany is
really impressive in the ring. What she was doing down
in NXT was great. Even her early run up in
WWE was fine. But then she, as people have said before,
she hit the roadblock that is Charlotte Flair and she
never really recovered.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
But well, I'm not even going to fully blame Charlotte
for that because I remember even beforehand saying to you
and you know, mentioning it on the show a handful
of times that Tiffany looks gun shy. She didn't seem
fully ready for this fucking push and this game, right,
But now it's becoming more and more and more and
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obvious as time goes on. And like I said, I
watched that eight woman match for MEDXT before I came
on the show today, and now I'm thinking to myself,
I'm going is there that big of a difference between
Tiffany Stratton and soul Ruka, right, like, is there a big,
huge Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Actually, I like sul Ruca's match is better.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I mean, there you go.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah, honestly, but no mister money in the chat too,
he says, you know, she hasn't really been the same
since the Charlotte stuff and seen a Hitman response. It's
like Charlotte hasn't been the same since the Charlotte stuff.
And I really do look back on that rustle mania
between them, and I look back at Charlotte's complete stumble
(26:46):
as a heel before the Alexa Bliss joining, which I
think the Alexa Bliss thing was a band aid. I
still feel like it was a band aid because when
Charlotte came back, she wanted to be she wanted to
be a face so bad, and she's out there talking
about her knee, and she's out there talking about her
life problems and shit, and and people didn't give Chicago,
(27:08):
did not give a fuck. We gave her nothing. They
boomed the shit out of her. And I think that, honestly,
that shook her a little bit. And I mean, I
know that there's this weird line that crosses over between
the KFE world and real emotions and and I'll talk
a little bit more about that with the cross interview
with CVV. But it's it's really interesting to see how
(27:28):
this has played out because I think both of these
guys are absolutely right in the chat. I don't think
Charlotte's been Charlotte since Rustlemania.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Well, look at what dude Androne got released for wellness violations.
Connect the dots, right, And I'm not saying that means
that Charlotte herself is getting fucked up, But if shit
was going on on that front, who was dealing with that?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Well? I saw a funny response that to basically saying
that's all bullshit that he was released for wellness violations.
He was released because he needed to take care of
his kid. And I'm like, well, that's a great reason
to take care of your kid as an unemployed person.
That's great.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
That's right, that's quite the that's quite the leap.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, oh oh, you need to pick up more hours
because you need to take care of your kid. You're fired.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
What talk about legitimately looking somebody looking at you and
go and hey, man, I really need to get out
of my contract, you know, I just I'm having trouble
at home. I need to take care of my family.
And they look at him and they go, fantastic, We'll
just tell the public we fired you because you're a
(28:41):
drug addict.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah, we'll do that. That'll help, right job?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, yeah, So what we'll do is, like we heard
that you're having trouble at home, right, you want to
be there for the little tikes. You want to put
them on the bus in the morning. So we're going
to do is We're going to tell the general public
that you like.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And or that's right?
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Will that helped for the for the PTA meeting? Do
you want to go? Do that?
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Fig end up a job real easy with the cartel, So.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
You know, yeah, we figured we'll get you. We'll get
you in good. You know, they'll look and they'll say
and wait, so this guy wrestles and and drugs. What
a what a pick up? What a catch? But no, like,
come on, dude, if.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Oh, I know, it was just silly. When I saw
that that was the pedaling response to that, I was like, okay,
sure whatever.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Well either way in this situation, when people go, oh
well Charlotte, and I'm sure someone once again, big big
Charlotte apologist whatever would be. But here we are yet
again with this woman and a relationship with somebody with
fucking problems. And then it's like she comes back from
having her knee screwed up for two years. Yeah, and
(29:51):
she gets on television and she's like, hey, guys, I
just I just want to speak frankly with you, and
they're like, no, you've been a bullshit artist to us
for years. We associate you with your dad, who's a
bullshit artist, and now we want to boo you like
a heel. She's like, Okay, well, I guess I'll go
home to my husband right now, who's potentially doing something
(30:15):
with his nose or face or whatever that's making a
huge problem. Yeah, those were tough. I'm going to assume
those weren't the best of times for her, you know, no,
of course not. I mean Tiffany's Stratton. I think he's
just inexperienced and she just got overwhelmed and now she
needs something to get her groove back. I don't know
(30:35):
what that would be, but yeah, it's of course time
to win big matches, and it's time for Tiffany to
I don't know, go to TNA or something, figure something out.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I don't know about dropping her from the company Jesus.
I just think that needs to work her. I think
she needs to work her way back up. I think
Tiffany kind of needs to go back to grassroots. I
think she needs to lose the title to someone else.
I don't know who. I know. I saw people saying
Julia before, but I don't even know if that's the
right call. But I think Tiffany needs to go backwards.
(31:04):
I think she needs to start back at the bottom
and work her way back up with the fans and then,
you know, maybe come around a second time and then
make it more valuable, right Like it's it's not so
unheard of that somebody that's given the championship belt isn't
able to carry it. It happens all the time. It's just,
you know, when people had so much promise with Tiffany Stratton,
(31:25):
you would think that she would have been able to
do that. She looked like she was ready, She carried
herself like a champion. You thought that this was going
to be the girl that was supposed to be the
cutting edge of the next generation. And honestly, she just
fell apart. That's all. It is, so start her from
the bottom and then work her way back up. But
bouncing her off DNA, look, because there's a lot of
contract issues going on right now too, But bouncing her
(31:47):
to TNA, no, that would be that's career suicide.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, that's fine. She could go there for a little
while and come back. Man. I mean, this is this
is where they are at this point. They have more
than enough. I mean specifically the women liked sure legit.
Like I said, you could put Soul Ruka on TV
and it would be kind of it would be pretty
much a fair trade for Tiffany Stratton at this point.
(32:12):
I don't know anybody who is there. No, Tiffany Stratton
is so unique right now because she's a pretty.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
She hasn't grown. I think that was the other thing
too that I have a problem with Tiffany Stratton. Not necessarily. Obviously,
her matches are still good. I mean obviously besides hiccups
here and there, But for the most part, her matches
are solid. But I think as a character she hasn't grown.
She still relies on heel tropes as a baby face,
you know, and it's just and even as a heel
(32:41):
she's stale it's there's nothing there that's new from NXT?
What kind of development has she done? She still relies
on catchphrases. I just I don't know. I need something
more out of her. I need some kind of a development,
and I haven't seen it. That's all.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Well, this is the perfect way to describe if we
can move past this, because it's way more than it deserves.
But what do we know about her other than, like
you said, a catchphrase? What do we know about her?
What kind of a person is she? What does she like?
What doesn't she like? What are her interests?
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Like?
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I mean, I close. The thing we got was she
was fucking around lubag Kaiser, so you know.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah, we knew that she was dating him, and now
he dresses up as a Luta door Like what, there's
no vue who Lubrick?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Oh no he doesn't know you mean, no, that's not him.
Al Gande a Markhana. Now that's a totally different guy.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Dude. Oh shit, I'm sorry, I could hear listen. Man,
I'm just looking at that head shape and I have
my suspicions.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I mean, there's three of them now, so I don't
know if that could all be a little bit Kaiser. Jesus,
that's a good point.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
I do love the idea of you know, all things
wink wink, nudge, nudge. Still that all of our Americanos
not Americano, nor are they Latin. That's fucking pretty. That's
pretty goddamn.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
It's so funny too, because people are so happy to
bust apart storylines in k fabe. But Ludwig Kaiser Al
Grande Americano is probably one of the few k FAPE
storylines that people are enjoying for what it is.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Seriously what other But he's also leaned into it real good.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Oh no, really could. But I'm just saying, like people
are so happy to rip shit apart that El Grande Americano,
even though it started off a little rocket like it's
the Gulf of America, Like people are immediately turning in
political But he became obviously since Chad Gable, but he
became so good in that role that they just completely
wrote it off. And man, when Chad Gable makes I
(34:47):
don't know, do you think Chad Gable ever goes back
to being Ludit or does Chad Gable ever go back
to being Ludwig Keiser.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
He comes out. He's like, my name's Ludwick, nowaday, just
that that's all it is. We just everybody just changes
characters and they just fuck. They're like, hey, wait a second,
is this the mom on the fresh print? Somebody being
fucked with right now? Now, Like if he comes back
as as Chad, yeah, well no, well just him, if
(35:17):
he comes back and he's you know, I'm Chad Gable
and I've recovered, he should see Ludwick, right yeah, and
then have somebody whoever, just people be like I'm gonna
kick the shit out of that Americano guy. And then
Chad's just like, yeah, what a jerk, that guy. It's
like he just kind of.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Maybe they could do, maybe they could do like the
two doinks like Ludwig Heiser's in the ring is El
Grande Americano and he gets like hit or something like that,
and he rolls out of the ring and Chad Gable
rolls in there as his fucking.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
But you know what, there is nothing funnier than twin Magic,
where both of the twins look nothing alike nothing. One
guy's five seven and jacked, the other guy's like a
like a string bean.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Oh, and they's such different sizes and physiques to it's
fucking funny.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
And they get in the ring like dude, that's a
different human and it's like.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
No, yeah, the referee is like that. I don't know,
I don't see it. Jessica Carr's like, I don't see it.
I don't.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Well, to be fair, having seen Jessica Carr in a
recent man now it's Jessica Carr, the one that's doing
some of the wrestling too, is that.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Well she's like a female beast more TOAs down in
uh down an evolve or whatever she wears, the slathered
on paint or something.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, well, whatever she's doing down there, I'm assuming she's
more interested in that because recently, if you've seen her refereeing,
she's she's always kind of had that sellface like ooh,
it's saying so nervous. But recently you could tell she
just don't give up. Fuck, you can see it. She
(36:58):
just doesn't fucking care. It's like I assume, like I said,
she's more into the wrestling thing at this point because
or put up a picture of her. She's got her.
I don't know, I'm not particularly I haven't seen her work.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Maybe she's okay, but that's I thought. I thought Dodgers
for life. See this is the problem. I'm having eyesight issues.
I thought he wrote Jessica Carr is the new generation
of Hebrew, And I'm.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
Like, oh, well, what do you call that? Luta door? Dude,
I'll leave that one for you. I look so oh no, yeah,
(37:51):
what do you call that one? Uh? Yeah, let me
put that into Yeah, folks, let's see what are you
what do you think we should call? Yeah? No, yeah,
see how people are posting pictures of her what whatever? Man,
if she's an okay, fucking wrestler, maybe that's the direction
she needs to start going in because, uh, the referee
(38:13):
and recently I've been noticing has been looking a little
little soft, little lackadaisical.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Well, we also got John Cena versus AJ Styles straight
singles match.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, I mean you know it's going on in Kwan
Sina Ya good good match. AJ does eighty percent of
the work. It goes pretty long because you know, John's
going to make sure that AJ style still looks good.
He's not going to go dope him out. He's not
going to make him look like a bitch or nothing.
So it'll be probably a real good, twenty minute long,
(38:46):
solid match and seeing it goes over and people are happy,
you know, we got it.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
I'm I'm right there with you. I think it's going
to be a great match. But yeah, John Cena wins.
I mean, what would it mean if fucking well, here,
let's let's play Devil's at Think it for a minute.
What would it mean if aj Styles won?
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Honestly, not much, And that's kind of why I don't
see any real that well you.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Say that, but we were also discussing on Tuesday that
it was posedly revealed that Johnsena's last match in was
it Boston or no? DC? Yeah? Is going to be Uh, you're.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
More wishful thinking about that than I am. Where I'm like,
why the fuck is he not in Boston? I know
he's in DC, and you're like, he's in Boston.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Right, right? I think in Boston because it's like, I
guess that makes sense to me. If you're going to
retire and you're on the level of John Cena, why
wouldn't you retire at home?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Yeah? That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
I don't get any other I think, And on a
Saturday night's main events too, I'm just like, all right, whatever.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Which which, by the way, there's got to be some
part of this too, where good old fucking Goldberg. You know,
he's like, Dave retire me honestly editing I an event
and I only did it my hometown.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Blah blah.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
It's like, yeah, do you look what Johnson is getting.
Shut the fuck up, dude. John Sen is retiring in Washington, DC, right,
He's having his last match in his hometown on Saturday
main event too, So fucking zip it up.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
But now you know it is where it is.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
And then we got unless you want to unless you
want to become Jessica's Cars tag team party.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Well got Cody Rhoades smackdowns on disputed WWE Champion versus
seth Rollins Ross World Heavyweight Champion singles match for that
Crown Jewel Championship.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Well, I mean, we know the sexual tension will be
off the charts in this match. They're going to just
end up putting over saths. I feel like, now, do
you think this is going to be the Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
I don't think so. I think I think with all
the hype that, yeah, that's the reason why I think
Cody's gonna win. I think that it's going to start
to tear down for Seth, and I think that's the
story you tell, right.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
Do you do? You tell the story of Seth losing,
and then it'd be like, you lose the locker room,
and you lose all the people, and you lose all
the what and then we try to make Seth sympathetic.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
No no, no, no, no, no, not that at all. Actually,
I think he leans into it. Right. So Becky, now
for the last couple of weeks, has been bitching while
Seth is in the back, and Seth just sits there
and says nothing. His tag team, the.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Vision, the nicest thing Becky's ever done for us.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
By the way, the Vision have gone out there and
had matches. Seth is nowhere to be found. Seth has
this promo that he talks with Paul Hayman after Becky
leaves and saysays, what happens if I lose? And Paul
Hayman a dressism says, you lose the locker room, you
lose the respect of everyone, your wife won't look at
you anymore, like basically just lays it out from that,
(41:49):
he loses everything if he loses to Cody Rhodes. If
he doesn't lose then there's no point to any of this.
Why are you building up these consequences if we're never
going to see them play out? It just feels like
bad storytelling. I mean, don't get me wrong, I know,
(42:10):
I know I'm putting my own shoes in my mouth,
but it just feels like extremely bad storytelling if you're
building up the audience with all of these consequences, and
Seth Winsen like, nah, fuck it.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Fuck it. You know, well, once again we always have
to put in that X factor, just like back in
the day the X factor was uh.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Well Albert and just incredible and x POC.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Yeah, if only I mean we were, if only we
were all doing as well.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
It's just incredible right now. But well, definitely not x POC.
He's got small checks now, so.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah, I know, right, and he's still doing better than most.
I had his asshole ripped in half and he's still
doing better than most. Goots, Yes, he had a he
had a torn gooc and he's still doing pretty good comparatively.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
But which sounds like such a racial body part, doesn't it?
Speaker 3 (43:03):
You?
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Dirty gouch? What what do you call it?
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Whoa? What did that guy do to you?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Wait is that are you trying to say? That would
be Jessica Carter's Luta door name. There you go, Yes,
somebody translate that for me. Yeah, I don't know, man.
Like I said, you have to remember the old X
factor of l O L SNA winds, but in this
case it's l O L. It's Triple H's gundam. So
(43:33):
does Triple H's gundam just win the match? Yeahsinary name.
I'm still a fucking architect. Like, nothing would surprise me anymore.
And it's not a matter of at this point being
like l O L. They're working you. Oh, the wrestling
is so much smarter than you. You got tricked. It's
quite literally. We know that Triple H lives vicariously through cethrology,
(43:59):
which is why he went all the shit.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
I get that, but it just doesn't make sense right. So,
if Seth's already losing an everyday life, having him lose
the match with Cody Rhodes too would be the example
of him having to double down in order to keep
the respect of his wife, in order to double down
to keep the respect of the locker room. Like, there
(44:22):
would be that come upance, which is story growth for
the character of Seth rollins, right, But if he just
goes out there and wins, not only is all of
that negated, but there's no there's no lesson to be
learned there, And then what does it do for Cody? Cody,
they got to keep strong. He's got to sacrifice his
butt for the rock in a few months.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
That's a good point. Well, I mean he doesn't necessarily
have to lose in a way, or should I say?
I mean Cody shouldn't have to lose it away to
where it is clean?
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Oh oh you think d Q No, No, no, not.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
To cute like Becky Becky interference.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Oh like a count Oh oh, I thought you like
Becky on Monday a count out. I'm like, that's worse.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
No, but this is honestly goodness. I think that if
we must be forced to deal with Seth, which obviously
we do him alongside Becky, which at first I was
a little bit like, but at this point she's helping him.
Oh yeah, because he needs to shut the fuck up,
(45:29):
because he's awful, just awful and insufferable every time he talks.
I don't give a shit any anybody that you know
at this point that's still going uh Seth is a
good promo. He's such a great all around performer. I'm like,
I hope you're under twenty five, because you've never seen
an actual fucking good promo in your life.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Clearly, if you think this guy is so good at it,
Becky's good at being neurotic. I like Becky as this
neurotic self, you know, just egomaniacal version of herself, where
she not only has to tell people, oh, Sports Illustrated
says it, et cetera, et cetera. It just feels natural.
And I mean, I'm sure she's not like that in
the real world. But at the same point, it's really
(46:11):
interesting as far as her being that neurotic and the
same time, where Seth is usually a neurotic one himself
when it comes to him and his wife, he takes
the back seat roll to the point of silence. Like
that is actually interesting character development. I talked about this
with you a couple of weeks back when we first
saw it, and I'm like, wow, is there something something
(46:32):
happening with Seth. Maybe Becky becomes the leader of the vision,
maybe there's something more to it. But I like this
idea that Seth is this loud mouth based braggart, and
he goes around getting into people's faces, whether it's cmpunk,
whether it's La Night, et cetera, et cetera. And he
does all this openly underhanded shit, but when it's a
private moment between him and his wife, he shuts the
(46:54):
fuck up and he shuts the fuck down. And it's like, wow,
that is really interesting because a lot of people can
assume that because they've either seen relationships like that or
they've been in relationships like that where they don't wear
the pants in their own household. Which also, once again,
to reiterate what I was saying two weeks ago, could
(47:15):
be used as a reason for why Seth is the
way he is. I said, you could blame it all
on Becky Lynch, all of it. The reason Seth is
such an asshole, he's so neurotic and all these problems
is because in his real world, in his real life
quote unquote on screen, Seth takes a backseat to whatever
Becky tells me.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
He goes home and he's berated for his sock drawings.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
It's like, it reminds me of that scene. I don't
know if you remember, if you've ever watched the movie
Pink Floyd the Wall, but there was a great scene
in there, and that was part of one of the songs,
and it was this professor and this professor is beating
the kids with a ruler and he's fucking shouting at
him and he's smacking one of the kids. And this
(47:59):
is just the way that these schools were back in
the seventies or sixties or whatever it was. And then
he gets home and his wife cooks him a meal
and he eats the meal and he's done with it,
and there's some cartilage and some bones on the side,
and he's like ready to wrap up. He's like, you know,
putting a napkin over his mouth, and his wife looks
at him and she points at the bones and the
(48:20):
cartilage and she points at him, like you need to
eat that, And so he starts to eat the cartilage
and the bones because she told him to. And it's
like it's that transference of bad behavior of a toxic
relationship where she tells him what to do and he
in turn takes it out on the kids. And that's
the way that the seth rollins. Becky Lynch thing feels
(48:41):
to me where Becky Lynch is is the wife at home.
Sure she'll cook for you, but there's no mistake. She
makes a perfect meal every time because you eat that cartilage,
you eat those bones, you know.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Well, I think that that's kind of just the overall
idea of here is a guy that's that annoying, like
you said, like it just it matches up with him
where it's like, how did he get how did he
get to this point? How does he end up so
fucking whiny and feeling this need to assert himself and
calling himself an art attack an art of choke. I mean,
(49:17):
he has a fucking art of joke, but yeah, an
architect and joke.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
Ha ha.
Speaker 2 (49:24):
Boy. Sorry, well no, the artis I could have gone
somewhere horribly with that, but that's all right. Uh dude,
I just think to myself, maybe this is what you do,
and maybe you have ses lose this, and that's how
you get Becky to ramp it up a level. Hey,
you lost to Cody. Clearly your a visionary. But I'm
(49:47):
the man, right, all right, maybe you need to start
listening to me a little bit more. And you know what,
Becky gets a hell of a lot more from this crowd.
With a lot less and I don't know what it is.
Maybe it's having more talent, maybe it's having more charisma.
Maybe it's just plain sexism. And there's people that go,
I don't want to hear from listen to this bitch.
(50:08):
I don't want to listen to her. Maybe that's the case,
but either way, it's certainly better than fucking anything Seth
has done kind of ever, Yeah, but he's just fucking grating.
But unfortunately, with that, all of that said, I'm still
thinking Triple H's Gunda wins this because they want to
be They just assume people are gonna leave happy because
(50:31):
Tina goes over and Australia gets to sing his shitty
metalcore song and they'll be happy. Yep.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
That's pretty much Crown jewel Man. I don't know else'll
say about it, but we'll be here after the show
live on YouTube as well, and there's a couple other
things that are going on, O Joe, if you didn't
check it out. It's also when we were talking about
it earlier, I did have Dave Melzer's response to the
ratings between NXT and AW. I might obviously once.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
Again, I'm sure this will be very measured and in
no way bias.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Dave openly said that the ratings ended up being six
to twenty five K point one two for NXT and
three twenty one K point oh seven for Dynamite. Last year,
though the same circumstances was eight hundred and seventy four
K at a point twenty four and three hundred and
twenty nine K for a point one to zero. AW
(51:26):
doesn't include Max and had the unfamiliar nights. More details
to come, so excuse, excuses, excuse. That's exactly what I
was saying earlier. That's the first thing that they were
going to go to is it's not a normal night.
So the majority of AW fans just forgot or didn't
know how to turn on the TV on Tuesday. I'm
(51:46):
not sure. You know, maybe they were just busy with
their girlfriends, you know, realistic thing.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
So yeah, get out partying, getting ladies, right. Yeah, you know,
like all those things we hear so much about AW fans,
specific like Tuesday's date night. Babe, I'm gonna have to
miss gonna have to miss Dynamite, you know, got to
take you out on the town. Yeah, I'm sure that
(52:13):
was the Yeah, let's fill in those blanks. Right, So
I was watching.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
So there's a couple of the podcasts that I saw
this week, well, actually two podcasts that I enjoyed today
and a TED talk and Triple H did a Ted talk.
It was about thirty minutes. And I'll say the positives first. Right,
he has become very comfortable, more comfortable with being a
(52:39):
public speaker now than he was even during COVID times.
He is far more political when he talks, and yeah,
he sounds he sounds like a politician in a lot
of ways, and not a bad politician, but definitely knows
how to swoon and sway the audience to his favor.
(52:59):
But during the Ted talk, he was you know, asked
questions about WWE and how he observes it and the
creative process. And I thought one of the most interesting
things that he said during this Ted talk that was
of any value to me was how he believes and
he perceives that WWE is still a family oriented company.
(53:19):
That the whole reason that WWE exists the way it
is today is because people bring their families. And he
went on for a good ten minutes Joe about the
importance of family attendance and he talked about WrestleMania, how
there's people that just get together and even if you're
not a family, there's people in the audience that will
(53:41):
talk to you like your family because we're all part
of the WWE family. And then I go back to
what we were talking about with all the changes with TKO,
with the direction of TKO raising the prices to just
insane rates even for smaller shows. And it's funny to
me that Triple H is out here saying this with
(54:02):
a straight face about making ww or continuing WWE to
be a family company when they're pricing out families entirely right, Well.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
We're actively knowing and paying attention to and hearing from
their CEOs going why would we ever make this affordable
for regular people? Like, it's so counterintuitive to like what
to what these other people are actually saying that are
running the company. But no, I mean this leads you
(54:35):
to believe a couple of different things. Why Either Triple
H is completely full of shit. He perceives three hundred
dollars to eight hundred dollars tickets, that's family friendly. Maybe
that's his perception. Maybe oh that's a fucking it's easy.
Speaker 1 (54:50):
Yeah, It's not like they let kids in for free, right, Like,
if you're under fourteen, you get it to go in
for free. Man, if that was the case, I think, honestly, Joe,
if they flip that script and they turned around one
day and said, you know what, kids under twelve or
kids under thirteen all get to go into WWE events
for free, and obviously if they're accompanied by parent or
legal guardian.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
Right, I think I would feel differently about those high
priced tickets. I really would, because if you can go
in there with three kids and you're paying eight hundred
dollars for a ticket, I mean it's still eight hundred dollars,
but now you can drag your three kids with you.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
I don't know, man, is it is a different You're right,
it is a different way too. Now granted they can't
do that because it's a fucking stadium, and they'd be like, oh, well,
I bought a ticket to this, and it's like, oh, sorry,
there's no guarantee because it is.
Speaker 1 (55:42):
Well, you'd still have to get the tickets. You just
put the tickets down as so it would still be
the same thing, right, Like, you wouldn't change how tickets
are purchased, you'd buy four tickets, but when it comes
down to general admission versus three underage kids, you know
what I mean, Like they're still filling up a slot.
So I don't think it's like you have to tell
them at the door how many kids you got, But
(56:04):
that would be kind of funny. I actually have twelve,
twelve kids. They're all into thirteen. Yeah, how comel one
has a mustache and a tattoo. Fuck out of here?
You know, a thirty two thirty two year old man.
Speaker 2 (56:16):
Boks fies Dad, can we go to McDonald's afterwards? Still?
I got what? Yeah? And that little kid has a
full sleeve. I think we I think that's a problem.
Speaker 1 (56:29):
Oh and oh he brings up. He's like, kids still
must buy at least one hundred dollars in merch. But
that's where WWE would still make their money on those
those free tickets because their merch has gone up in
price too. And you know, if daddy's getting one ticket
for himself and bringing three kids, those three kids are
getting something to take home. Like it's it's weird because
(56:50):
you can play it out where WWE is making more
money from the tickets and not losing money by having
kids there by having the merchandise up and expecting these things.
Like there's a way to do it without losing goodwill, right, Like,
there's a way to do it without losing face. And
I think if Triple H is right and he believes
(57:13):
that ww is full of for for the families and
still for the families, then they got to make some
kind of prospect more than just hey, we have more
events that you can purchase in order to make people
believe that. Because as the ticket sales and the PLS
stuff are going right now, what families the Rockefellers, Ye,
(57:34):
like nobody.
Speaker 2 (57:35):
Yeah, I mean, it's it's unfortunate because it's one of
those situations where it's like, well, why would I do
a thing when I could just lie? Like That's that's
where people are at at this point, especially some of
these bigger companies. It's like, we're not fucking beholden to anybody.
I can stand in front of people at a TED
talk and completely fucking lie and they'll clap and they'll
(57:56):
leave going it goes. What WWE does is they're not
going home and googling it and looking it up and
talking to anybody that actually knows shit about Yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
But most of these people have been to an event before.
I don't know how many brand new people are just
going to their very first WWE event, even as casuals.
I think a lot of people have been to the
events before this price hike, don't you.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
Well maybe, I mean, that's that's really we got to Yeah,
we gotta remember. We got to remember this too. Now
if this has been going on for what three years?
Three four years?
Speaker 1 (58:31):
Three years?
Speaker 2 (58:32):
So there's people that you know, they're younger. Maybe, Like
I said, the first wrestling show I ever went to,
I was fourteen years old. I mean I didn't I
didn't grow up with a family that really cared about it.
We didn't have money, so it wasn't like a thing
where we got like I went to my first show
because I saved up money. And I believe I was
(58:52):
working at Frugal Fannies at the time. Do you know
what Frugal Fannies is?
Speaker 1 (58:56):
No clue.
Speaker 2 (58:57):
It's an East Coast shitty department store that's else shoes
And it was like a fucking ross as you guys
would have And I believe, like a Ross or a
TJ Max like that right as a fourteen year old.
That's how I made my money to go to a
WWF show, right, And I think it was probably thirty
or forty bucks at the time, But that was in
the year I think nineteen ninety eight. Okay, so this
(59:20):
is a long fucking time ago. But if you're dealing
with that now, where there's people that are, you know,
fourteen fifteen, you know, even early late teens or whatever,
you know, they didn't have the money, they didn't have
the access to it, they didn't have a car, they
didn't have public transportation to get to these places. We're
city people were spoiled by our access, right. So to them,
(59:42):
maybe they're like, yeah, two hundred dollars for wrestling show,
that's that's about the going, right. They might think it's
always been NFL NBA.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
Prices, you know, maybe, But I don't know. I just
assume that most of the fans that WWE has now
are people that have already been exposed to WWE for years.
I mean maybe maybe internationally we could say that internationally
with like you know, France or Puerto Rico. I think
(01:00:12):
that's absolutely a fair statement. But in the US, when
they come to your city four times a year. I
don't know. That seems far more unlikely than it does
likely to me.
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
So well, even if they did, even if they do,
remember the times where it was a little bit more affordable. Yeah, yeah,
a little more affordable, a little bit more reasonable in price.
I think now that we're starting to see people get
more and more desensitized to it, and I think this
is what companies are banking on, you know, with the
(01:00:45):
Hey it's thirty bucks for ESPN. Hey, it's fifty dollars
for this. Hey. Remember when Amazon Prime, the streaming app,
didn't have ads, Well, fuck you. Now it has ads
and you can buy the show without ACP. Why am
I buying a fucking thing without adds? What is the
fact that I already pay for the service a year
and buy shit from you all the time? Is that
(01:01:06):
not enough? You can't just give me an episode of
The fucking Boys without a fucking as fifteen ads on it?
No eat shit? Like people are slowly becoming more and
more used to and desensitized to getting fucked over. But
like I said, the idea of him just going for people, Ah, yeah,
you know, it's it's affordable for families, that's what we
(01:01:28):
want it to be.
Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
If people don't go look it up and go, well,
actually that's a load of shit, then they're not going
to know about it. And like I said, they're now
trying to put themselves in the UFC, Like we've talked
about that now for a couple of months. Now. It's
gonna be like UFC gonna try to be like a
real professional sports thing. People that go to you know, NFL, NBA,
(01:01:53):
they expect to pay a couple hundred bucks. So to them,
they're like, well that's affordable now for WWE because you
paid the same tick to go to an NBA game.
So it's the same thing and it's not motherfucker. But
Triple Ah could be Uh, he could be drinking the
fucking kool aid a little bit before. Maybe he's just lying.
Who knows.
Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Well, that was pretty much his ted talk. I also
saw a biggie today. He did What's Your Story with
Stephanie McMahon, and I mean he gets dark right off
the bat. You know, he talks about a couple of
things about his mental health and stuff. He talks about
his folks, but he said on the podcast, my first
memory of struggling with depression. Was nine years old, looking
(01:02:36):
in the mirror and just crying and thinking, I want
to be anyone but me, just feeling very much alone,
feeling like truly anyone else but who I was, and
I was just not comfortable in my skin. My journey
in therapy was not a smooth one. I had many,
many struggles. I was on the antidepressants. I was on
anti psychotic medicine as well, even pointing out, which they
(01:02:57):
don't say in here, that apparently even during his college
was he was in the bin. He was in the
asylum for a little bit. It got to a point
too where I was even in a oh there in
a psych ward at the University of Iowa. I still
struggled with suicidal thoughts, even at the height of the
new day when we were taking off. So many times,
I didn't know why I was here. I didn't see
(01:03:17):
the lights at the end of the tunnel. And he
talks about therapy. I mean, he talks about his complicated
past with his folks. You know, on one hand, you
know he was raised in a parochial type school, you know,
parochial type setting. There was a lot of similarities that
I understood from his life and obviously even you know,
(01:03:39):
self reflecting, but I think he overshares a little bit
not to say that it's not a good thing to
have these and be able to say that. And obviously
he felt when I was watching it, he was very
confident in what he said. It wasn't bullshit, but it
just felt like at some point, I'm like, man, this
is is this where we're at? Because there rf shoot
(01:04:01):
interviews from back in the day that aren't as telling
or revealing as Biggie as being openly on a chair
on YouTube, you know what I mean, Like, I love
the guy. There was some sad talk too, when he
was talking about he doesn't look back at wrestling now
after the neck injury. He kind of went into that
as well. And he's doing well. He's got like a
(01:04:24):
new maybe not even a new fiance, but he's engaged,
and he talked positively about her and you know how
he sees like the world with her and everything. Like.
It was a good interview. It was really deep. If
there was anything that you ever wanted to know about Biggie,
this was absolutely it. He loves the new day guys,
you know, like there's a lot of depth into it.
(01:04:44):
It just felt like you gave us your entire autobiography
in this one and a half hour or one hour
shoot interview or podcast interview.
Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
Well, this is an example of you know, somebody who
has done the work has probably had to do a
lot of reflection and had to do a lot of paraphrasing.
I guess you could say, of their own problems, you
know what I mean, where it's not a matter of
with for him, where somebody probably has to has to
(01:05:15):
push in prad and goat it out of them. But
I think it's nice to hear that from him for
just a couple different reasons. Yes, it is to some extent,
like you said, an overshare, but I think that this
is a generational thing too now man, where even people
that are ten years younger than us, they've grown up
(01:05:36):
with this idea of where like we're just if we're
just out about our shit, if we're just as open
as possible, then it's way harder for people to hurt
us with it. I think that's almost the perspective of
the mindset of it. Also, I mean, the concept of
the overshare, like the way that we might have seen
(01:05:57):
it at all growing up, that's fucking gone, dude. People
are just sharing too much of everything at this Yeah,
and they're monitor and they're monetizing it, so they don't
see it as as weird as we would have for
not weird. But you know what I'm saying, like, they
don't see it as a surprising.
Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Sorry about that. My monitor just fucked up. Of course
it did well.
Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Well, you know it's because we're talking about big Eie
right now that monitor is Stop being sour, dude.
Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
But I mean I also got a chance to see
Across and Scarlet on Chris van Vliet and that was
okay too. If anything, it's kind of interesting the perspective
of Cross and Scarlet about how everything was handled. You know,
it sounds like their contract negotiations were handled poorly, and
(01:06:46):
we knew that it came down to the wire, but
he opened it up and he said it really wasn't
about money, you know, like money wasn't really what the
problem was. And that's what a lot of people believed.
And I think we even wondered at that too. Were
they giving them a pay but no, it just ended
up that they wanted to release And it really comes
back down to that. Sam Roberts interview where I guess
(01:07:07):
the people that were in control or in charge never informed,
like Triple H that it was part of the show,
that it was part of an act, you know, and
he was tapping into things. But at the same time,
he was doing this to build up his character, and
I think they took it personally. I think that that's
why they let him go. And I'm just reading in
between the lines that was kind of stated. But you know,
(01:07:30):
they also brought up or you know, Chris van Vliet
also brought up, you know about a w and their
tone kind of shifted to you know, they they clearly
Tony Kahan has reached out to both of them. You know,
they couldn't say that, but they made it very clear
that whatever company that they go for, that they go
work for, they will be there writer, you know, write
(01:07:53):
or die. It will be rid or die for aw.
Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Unfortunately, and by the way, I I know this that
they are these are people that are close to the
Soup world to some extent, Killer Cross and everything that
has gone on with him and his relation to us.
But uh, there's also to the point of this guy,
(01:08:17):
you want to talk about some bad timing right where
the whole thing happens with him in Scarlet and then
in walks fucking a j Lee and punk right. I mean,
I mean you want to talk about that, Just wipe
them right out of that news cycle, lickety fucking split. Yeah,
you know, whereas all that was going on, there was
(01:08:40):
some story. You know, I'm not sitting there saying it
was the biggest news story. This is the biggest thing
that's happened in wrestling. No, but it was getting enough attention,
and then it was, oh, hey remember uh remember her
from ten years ago, Yeah, she's coming back. She team
would see him pump right, And then it was fucking crickets.
So that's a here's the other thing too, damn break.
(01:09:02):
You know, I mean, even just.
Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Them discussing the idea or potentially didn't discuss the idea
of them joining with AW. I just think that that's
such a bad move. And I and I don't mean financially.
Financially you do what you gotta do to make money,
but because the company does not handle somebody like Cross
and Scarlet, Oh.
Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
God, no, you mean just wait wait, you mean a large,
n shape man and an attractive woman to a w
and the people adjacent to them and there they don't
know what to do with that. Come on, now, where
could you have ever gotten that from years of evidence?
Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Well that that too, and but just even that style,
like even if they're they're going to go back and
they're going to get darker if they even touch in
the supernatural stuff. I mean, look at how they treated
Malachai Black, right, Oh that was rough, and they had
him prepackaged and ready to go, like he ca in
with a serious gimmick and they did nothing with it.
(01:10:04):
Yet Oh it's just.
Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Oh well they I truthfully, at this point, I don't
know if I I thought he would be a fucking
star if used correctly, Tommy En Malack, I Black, whatever
the fuck you want to call him, right Alistair, I
still think that he could have been something had they
started him out strong and kept him strong. But now
(01:10:25):
that fucking ship has sailed so fucking fire.
Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
It is done right.
Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
The thing with him is fucking toast. But I feel
like anybody now that has taken that aw paycheck, they
know that they're going there for the money and for
a little bit exposure, and because they expect to not
get a call from Triple H for the next two
(01:10:51):
to three to five years.
Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Well, that girl, Laseta Steele, she left the company. She
was online saying I decided not to renew my WWEAD contract.
She was like one of the top three in that program.
She was like one of their top picks, and she said,
I'm incredibly grateful for all the knowledge, experience and opportunities
I've gained along the way, but at the end of
the day, I have to do what's best for me.
(01:11:14):
I'm not only twenty one and have already done so much,
but I'm just getting started. Thank you. And Anthony Bowen's
from AW was the first one to respond saying, You're
gonna do great things.
Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
So boy, yeah, wait is that am I mixing her
up with what was her name? Jazz, Jasmine Minx or something?
Was that the girl's name?
Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Nah, yeah, that's somebody else. I think Zeta Steele is
the one that she did the ID program. I believe
she was a part of Evolve as well. So yes, yeah,
I don't know. I mean, Jasmine Nicks, there you go,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Jasmin Nicks. Well, I mean, do some of these people
that are down there right now that are doing okay?
So yeah, pretty in shape, blonde girl, I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
Yeah, no, Oh, she's gorgeous. It's just there's another case
of another WWE prospect or another WWE person, you know,
taking that AW money. And I kind of agree with
her sentiment. She is twenty one. Maybe it is about
the money right now.
Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Yeah, oh no, you're right, yeah, I mean it's for
her at this point. Yeah, Tony Kainan's going to hand
you a bunch of fucking money when you're young, and like,
you're not gonna, point blank you're not going to become
a better wrestler in AW period. Like that's anybody that's
telling you that you're going to go to AAW and
learn anything, it's because you're a fucking suckopant and you
(01:12:36):
don't actually know what the fuck you're talking about. Who
has gone to AW and become a better wrestler. I
fucking defy anybody to give me, not pushed more, not
given more TV time, right, not given more exposure.
Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
I mean, you've grown as an actual talent right now,
at least we've seen great talents. Nay, you digress. Look
a look at MJF. Yes, m JF was an amazing
prospect and now now look at him. To Darby Allen
if he was, if Darby Allen was saddled a little
(01:13:14):
bit and not allowed to jump off of every fucking thing,
you know what I mean, Like they've absolute Ricky Starks,
like it's just another guy that if he was just
given the right opportunities and given a chance to grow
and really excel Powerhouse Hobbs, there's a lot, there's a
list of people that were specific to aw that really
(01:13:36):
Hangman Page, that's our that's our cowboy. Hangman Page was
better in the beginning than he is now.
Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Yes, I mean, this is not even a thing that
anybody that's being honest with themselves can contest. And I'm
sure someone be like, well, Kyle Fleckcker, I'm like, what
can he cut his hair and put on trunks. He's
still doing the same flippity do bullshit matches, justas don
callus standing next to him and they gave him like
a robe or some shit. You're like, look look at
(01:14:08):
that amazing growth as a performer. It's like a haircut
and a fucking and a bath throbe. Fucking congratulations. You'll
get that U your local strip mall. It doesn't mean anything.
But that's the problem is is that like some of
these people that are going there, like this girl's twenty one, right, Sure,
go there. You're not gonna get any better, but you're
(01:14:28):
gonna get paid probably three times as much as.
Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
What oh yeah, oh yeah, no, she'll be comfortable absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Oh yeah. So you go there, you get your fucking
you know, Neppo baby money, You get a nice, big
fat bag. You buy a fucking house in Orlando for whatever,
three hundred four hundred grand, you know, right near the water,
you know, pay that son of a bitch off hope
that a fucking hurricane doesn't hit it. And now you're
twenty four years old and you're doing pretty good for yourself.
(01:14:57):
And if you still feel like wrestling in five years
and you find a way to get better, then you
can call WWE up again.
Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
But another one too. Kylie Ray also with the wweid
Slash Evolved program. It's done with WWE, she said. Today,
I share that my time with WWE IDA is coming
to an end. That was informed my contract will not
be renewed. I'm incredibly grateful for the opportunities, memories and
people I met along the way. Thank you to everyone
(01:15:25):
who supported me during this chapter. Truly means the world
as for the next chapter. I'm so ready to meet
you once I pop this baby out, of course.
Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
So wait, what the smiley Kylie pregnant?
Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
She pregnant?
Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Oh all right, I mean I guess it's different than
like because when I initially it's like she's retiring again,
and I'm like, honey, with all due respect, if you've
had ten, like mental illness breaks from professional wrestling, just
stop doing it. Yeah, Like it's not good for you
at that point, you know what I mean? Like it's
(01:16:00):
everybody takes like a mental health day at their job, right.
Oh of course, I know there's some tough guy here
in this say not me, pussy, but like everybody's like, dude,
I'm burnt out. I'm going to take a fucking day off.
I'm going to go eat something I like by myself,
listen to some music, chill the fuck out, whatever. Right,
But if you're taking off professional health months years, it's
(01:16:22):
probably not the right job.
Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Well at that point you have to question if they
need to go into like therapy or some kind of
medical you know, watched position if you're not able to
recover over years.
Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
So yeah, but I mean, don't you guys or once
to get it.
Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
Our fiance is Isaiah's Philasquez, who's another wrestler, and I
believe this is their second child. Yeah, this is their
second child. The first one was in October of twenty
twenty three. So hey, if he's already got two children
in you, maybe it's time to to get the actual
ring at that point, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Like, yeah, I'm not Yeah, we're not trying to be
judgmental or nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
I are.
Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
I mean, come on, like.
Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Guys are not one but two, Like, yeah, maybe it's
time to rush this along a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Yeah, listen, listen, pal, you gotta fucking do it doesn't matter, dude,
you take that check to the fucking courthouse at that point, right, Yeah,
you guys get married. You get married, and fucking have
the party in a parking lot, for God's sake, you
have a barbecue at that point. You know, what the
hell is your problem?
Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Also on the contract stuff, Santo Cescobar has reportedly come
to terms with his WWE contract, and there's no direct
word yet on when Escarbar will resume traveling with the roster,
but his new contract confirms that he is once again
still working for WWE, and I I think it's a
(01:17:47):
smart move. I just put him, put him with the
Triple A stuff, put him with the World's Collide stuff,
have him do you know his act down there, Logatto
de Fantasma down there, you know. But I thought it
was a real waste of having him kind of take
a back seat on the SmackDown roster. I think once
they started dismantling the group a little bit, you know,
(01:18:08):
I just I don't know. He hasn't been the same
since NXT, And I saw a lot of people saying, well,
what the fuck has he done since NXT? And it's
like not much, right?
Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
You know? Was he the he was the odd man
out in y LWO, Right, Wasn't that the whole? That's
the last I knew of him, to be honest, that
was the storyline, right, Come on? This is where I'm laughing,
where it's like they re signed Els Van Hasmo and
it's like, you're one percent right, is this guy going
(01:18:41):
to tripa A?
Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
What are we doing here? What are we doing with
It's very talent.
Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
He's a talented talker, he's a talented wrestler. It's just
one of those things that creatively feels like WWE either
doesn't have time for him, or another case of just
bad ideas or a bad creative where they just can't
do anything to get this guy going. But I mean,
you're in a place right now where WWE's hungry. Penta
is doing very well for himself. It's not as if
it's this weird, xenophobic you know, audience that, oh, we
(01:19:09):
don't want to see these lucha guys around. It's not
that at all. I think that there's absolutely a place
for him in WWE, but you just got to frame
them right right.
Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
And there's also a point too where, uh, this is
this is kind of a struggle for him and you're, dude,
you've always been into him, and he's a he's a
good end ring guy. I mean, he's pretty good. But
now we have this point where you've got dom who's
fucking over like over. Then you have Penta, who is
not quite Dominic level in terms of popularity at this point,
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but moves the merch has a connection great in the
settings of these tag teams. Six man, he's an awesome
fucking babyface for this for the crowd, He's doing something unique.
Nobody on the show looks like him works like him
does what he does, you know, so it gets to
a wait where it is difficult, where you're like, and
here's another guy who's kind.
Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
Of w W. I I don't think that he's a
case where you can't do things with him. He's he's
not a Dana Brook where you can give him everything
in the world and a new entrance and diamond bracelets
and ship and he just doesn't figure it out. Santos
is right, he's a guy who absolutely gets it, and
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I really think that he does. It's just for whatever reason,
whether it's they think that he's not capable or they're
just not able to connect a storyline with him. Every
everything he's done since NXT has felt very flat. And
they tried a little bit. They tried when he had,
you know, problems with his own group and stuff, but
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they got rid of Electro Lopez, and I still think
that that was a bad move. I mean, so, I.
Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Don't know, but well, this is this is also when
you have this many people in a company and there's
only so many characters, and people can say type casting,
whatever excuse they want to use, whatever it might be.
But like I said about Tiffany Stratton earlier, even it's like,
whoa a pretty blonde white girl that does athletic shit?
Where will we ever find another one of those?
Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Right? True?
Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
You know, like it just becomes that to where if people,
like I said, they do want to make it being like,
oh so you could only have so many of this
person or that person, She's like, it's not even that,
it's that you all of a sudden, you're like, I
have three characters on the show that walk, talk, acts
and look the same.
Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
M hmm.
Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
It becomes redundant. No, people don't like that. It becomes aw.
Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
We were making fun of that with the storylines too. Look,
oh there's one crazy girl. Oh there's two crazy girls.
Oh look, three girls on the same show are all crazy, Like.
Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
There's all these tag teams are all breaking up in
those same fucking fashions.
Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Yeah, there's And maybe that's what it is. Maybe this
thing is going to go your way. I might have
to change my answer before fuck before Saturday, because maybe
it is just bad creative. Maybe it really is just
very near sighted creative, not understanding that you're doing the
exact same thing and just and at what point does
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it become the fault of the wrestlers for not calling
it out. Hey, why am I doing what EO's doing?
Why is EO doing what I'm doing? Why are we
all doing this on the same night. Why is Bailey
and EO switchable? You know, Like it's just.
Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
It's they're just worried. I mean, it's it's like a
lot of people in their jobs right where they're just sure,
coach whatever you say, because they're just trying to get there.
Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
But it's different though, because you can't just sit there
and clock in and then clock out, right, because eventually
they're just not gonna they're just gonna stop paying you,
and then it's gonna be your fault. Even though they're
the ones that gave you the direction and told you
what to do, it's still gonna be and it's still
gonna end being your fault when you get fired or
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not renewed.
Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
That's well, this is the difference between real leadership and
real coaches and shit. And I'm not sitting here pretending
like I could run a billion dollar fucking company or nothing.
I mean it's like I'm a regular ass fucking dude.
I got dishes in the sink, But like you do
put yourself in this position where you go a coach,
a coach coach, right, yeah, he'll take somebody out of
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a game because they're like, your head's not in it,
you're gonna get hurt, You're gonna hurt somebody else, you're
gonna cost the team. So we're taken you out right.
It's not on the player to look and say, hey,
I need a fucking break. Once again, going back to
Tiffany Stratton, Right, Tiffany Stratton's never going to look at
him and say, hey, can you take me off television.
I'm feeling really insecure and having lots of problems like
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that's just not gonna fucking happen. But somebody needs to
look at her and say, honey, this ain't good. What
you've been doing is not fantastic. This isn't a death sentence,
this isn't over fire iron you tomorrow. But clearly we
got to change something. You keep fumbling, you keep handing
to the ball, and you keep fucking fumbling, and it's
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a problem. And it's just as much about our show
and what we put out in our performance as it
is your future and your ability down the line to
have confidence and produce. Sure, but like I said, that's
what makes somebody a coach, That's what makes somebody a leader.
And does trip H want to be mister nice guy?
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Do some of these people want to be mister nice guy?
I don't know, but I don't know. Maybe you just
got to be Seth Rowlan's Tiffany, it's a practice your
whiney voice.
Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
I think that pretty much wraps it up for tonight.
Got Frank and Gust tomorrow, and then of course Saturday morning,
Joey O and I'll be here to cover the show.
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Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
If we don't see you tomorrow, we'll see you for breakfast.
Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
Right pretty much?
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